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A
Good
evening
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
tonight's
public
hearing,
if
anyone
hears
as
planning
on
presenting
testimony,
could
you
be
sure
and
sign
in
in
the
sheet
in
the
back
of
the
hearing
room
today
is
Wednesday
the
12th
day
of
April
time
is
six
o'clock
set
for
public
hearing.
D
A
Second,
that
thank
you,
yeah
well,
you've
heard
emotional
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
most
carries
okay.
First
item
up
is
application
202-201-624-s-vac.
E
D
Well,
Mr,
chair
I
will
move
to
table
application
number
two:
zero:
two
zero
one:
six,
two
four
dash
s:
Dash
Vac
engineering,
Solutions
to
May,
10th,
2023.,.
A
E
C
Chairman
I
move
that
we
table
number
20
2202-272
the
Jay
Kinghorn
to
the
June
14th
2023.
A
You've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries
next
up
for
new
business.
We
have
application
number
two
zero,
two
two
zero
three
zero.
Three
two
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application.
F
Mr,
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2022-03032s
is
a
pulmonary
plot
for
two
lots
subdivision
and
the
rural
residential
district.
The
property
is
located
at
2355,
West
King
Road
and
contains
28.11
Acres.
The
property
is
generally
located.
Southwest
of
kuna
is
on
the
south
side
of
King
Road
in
between
Black
Cat
and
10
Mile
roads
lot,
one,
which
is
a
lot
to
the
right,
will
consist
of
18.11
acres
and
Lot.
2
will
consist
of
10
acres
and
lot.
F
The
subject
implies
with
chapter
8-6
of
the
eight
county
code,
since
the
proposed
Lots
comply
with
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
rural
residential
district,
which
is
a
minimum
lot
size
of
10
acres
and
100
feet
of
Street
Frontage.
The
saturation
is
also
in
compliance
with
a
county
comprehensive
plan,
as
it
complies
with
the
agriculture
irrigated
land
use
designation.
Since
the
lots
are
over
10
acres
in
size,
they
are
still
conducive
to
agricultural
use.
F
It
should
be
known
that
the
subject
property
is
located
within
the
Ada
Canyon
nitrate
priority
area.
In
this
priority
area
covers
a
large
area
of
Southwest,
a
county
and
Southeast
Canyon
County
extending
from
Boise
to
Napa
and
from
Meridian
to
malba.
There
have
been
no
neighbor
comments
on
this
application.
None
of
the
agencies
have
raised
objections
to
this
application
and
staff
finds
that
this
application
complies
with
a
county
code
in
the
Ada
County
comprehensive
plan
and
recommends
approval
to
the
board.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
from
from
our
from
the
commission,
not
at
the
moment?
Okay,
thank
you.
G
Yeah
good
evening,
Jerry
Lyle,
332,
North
Broadmoor
way:
Nampa
Idaho,
83687,
okay,.
G
Opinion
kindness,
Pines
Estates,
is
located
off
King
Road
between
East
Greenhurst
Road
and
South
10
Mile
Road.
There
are
four
irrigation
laterals
on
the
site
with
more
canal
running
along
the
southern
border
of
the
property,
there's
one
existing
home
and
a
couple
outbuildings
that
will
remain
on
site
and
will
be
located
on
parcel
one
of
the
preliminary
plot
next
slide.
G
Pinion
Pines
Estates
is
situated
within
the
city
of
kuna's
area
of
impact,
D
and
just
south
of
kuna's
area
of
impact.
A
Ada
County
future
land
use
map
designates
the
property
as
agriculture,
meaning
primary
use
must
be
Agriculture
and
residential
being
a
secondary
use.
Also,
as
you
can
see,
the
subject
property
is
surrounded
by
both
rural
residential
and
rural
urban
transition,
making
this
project
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
surrounding
area.
Excellent.
G
The
proposed
subdivision
will
consist
of
two
single-family
residential
homes
on
28.19
Acres
parcel
1
will
consist
of
one
existing
single-family
home
on
a
functioning
well
and
septic
system,
and
two
outbuildings
parcel
2
will
consist
of
will
construct
one
single
family
home
a
well
and
septic,
and
a
driveway
approach
per
achd
standards.
We
are
not
requesting
a
zone
change
as
the
current
rural
residential
zoning
designation
supports
this
project.
G
This
project
will
not
require
a
landscape
plan
as
we
are
just
constructing
one
single
family
home,
as
stated
parcel
2
will
have
its
own
well
and
septic
system
that
will
be
constructed
in
accordance
with
DEQ
and
Central
District
Health
standards.
Additionally,
achd
has
requested
that
we
dedicate
25
feet
of
right-of-way
and
construct
a
rural
driveway
approach
off
King
Road
sign
the
site
currently
has
two
irrigation
head
Gates.
The
first
head
gate
is
located
on
the
Southeast
corner
of
parcel
one
and
delivers
water
to
the
site
from
the
Mora
Canal
VA
supply
line.
G
The
second
head
gate
is
located
on
the
southwest
corner
of
parcel
2
and
delivers
water
from
the
Benton
lateral
into
an
open.
Ditch
that
flows
from
south
to
North
along
the
west
property
line.
The
agricultural
field
in
partial
one
is
irritated
by
two
supply
lines.
One
running
through
the
middle
of
the
field
and
the
second
just
north
of
the
Mora
canal.
Parcel
2
has
not
been
farmed
for
a
while
due
to
the
Topography
of
the
property.
But,
however,
the
owner
is
planning
on
keeping
it
past
your
ground
for
livestock
next
slide.
G
This
application
has
been
reviewed
and
conditionally
approved
by
Ada
County
Central,
District,
Health,
achd,
Boise
project
board
of
control
and
the
City
of
kuna.
We
did
not
receive
comments
from
Kuna
fire
or
Cuna
School
District,
as
the
impact
will
be
very
minimal.
We
intend
to
comply
with
all
conditions
set
forth
by
all
agencies.
D
G
D
Mr,
chair,
yeah,
go
ahead
and
question
to
staff
is
livestock
as
far
as
the
zoning
designations
go
that's
allowed
within
this
particular
designation.
F
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Davidson:
yes,
livestock
is
allowed
in
the
a
rural
residential
district.
All
right.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
C
Ahead,
my
question
is
the
water.
You
said
you
have
received
information
from
the
border
control
and
the
irrigation
industry,
so
you
have
enough
water
for
both
of
those
plots
correct
they.
They
determined
that
you
have
enough
water.
G
C
As
commissioner
Davidson
said,
the
agricultural
things
that
you
anticipate
doing
correct.
G
We
we
have
enough
water
for
irrigation
of
the
whole
28
Acres.
Currently
the
the
area
and
parts
that
will
be
future
partial
two
has
not
been
irrigated
because
it's
difficult
difficult
to
get
water,
there's
kind
of
a
hump
in
the
ground.
So
it's
difficult
to
get
water
to
that
location,
but
there's
enough
water
that
that
can
be
allocated
for
the
area.
Correct.
C
A
I
Maybe
we
can,
you
know,
do
something
about
getting
you
some
acreage,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
here
today
is
to
try
to
try
to
get
that
and
we've
kind
of
gone
down
this
path
and
so
yeah.
That's
the
whole
idea
is
to
kind
of
move
from
where
we
are
just
to
get
closer.
We
live
about
17
miles
away,
which
isn't
that
far,
but
it's
still
it's
not
like
being
there
and
you
know
to
help
her
out.
So
so
that's.
D
All
good
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you
know
the
area
is
going
to
be
used
for
some
continuing
agricultural
purposes.
A
F
Mr
chairman,
the
applicants
presentation
will
be
entered
into
the
record
as
exhibit
number
46..
Okay,.
A
All
right,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two
zero:
two:
two:
zero:
three:
zero:
three:
two
dash
s
to
engineers:
okay,
it's
the
do.
I,
have
a
motion.
C
A
Okay,
is
there
a
second
to
the
motion,
I'll?
Second,
that
all
right
you've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries.
Thank
you.
Next
up
is
the
king
hormone,
Associates
I'll,
open
the
public
hearing
and
application.
F
Oh
Mr,
chairman
and
Commissioners
project
number
2023-0013
vac
is
a
vacation
of
a
shared
access
easement
for
lot
3
block
2
of
Shriner
subdivision.
The
property
is
located.
Excuse
me
at
9150,
West
flowing
feather
road,
also
known
as
West
Broken
Arrow
Street,
and
contains
1.25
acres
in
the
Rut
District.
The
property
is
generally
located
in
the
North
Star
area
and
is
a
mile
west
of
Highway
16..
The
shrine
air
subdivision
final
plot
was
signed
by
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
on
October
16
1991..
F
The
purpose
of
the
easement
was
for
law,
two
of
block
two
of
Schreiner's
subduation
to
access
West
floating
feather
road
lot.
Two
of
block
two
of
Shriner
saturation
has
been
developed
redeveloped
into
the
shrine,
Iron
Mine,
Mountain,
Estates
subdivision,
and
thus
there's
no
longer
a
need
for
the
easement,
as
Lots
in
Iron
Mountain's
estate
subdivision
take
access
from
public
streets
internal
to
the
subdivision
to
North
parlor
Lane,
which
is
a
collector
Street.
F
There
are
no
neighbor
comments
on
this
application.
Other
agencies
that
respond
to
this
application
did
not
express
any
concerns
regarding
the
vacation
and
staff
enter.
This
application
complies
with
a
county
code.
It
recommends
approval
to
the
board
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions,
and
then
this
presentation
will
be
known,
as
exhibit
number
29,
for
the
record.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
questions
from
this
from
from
the
commission?
Not
at
this
time?
Any
questions,
okay,
is
Joe
Dodson
in.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
this
to
this
applicant
you're,
the
applicant.
J
J
My
name
is
Joe
Dodson
with
Kimmy
horn,
1100,
West,
Idaho,
Street,
Suite
210
here
in
Boise.
Thank
you
guys
for
having
me
tonight,
probably
reiterate
everything
that
Brent
said
so
I
apologize,
but
it
is
a
hopefully,
a
very
straightforward
application.
We
are
just
here
tonight
to
request
an
easement
vacation
on
an
existing
plat.
That
is
no
longer
needed
as
you
go
next
slide
again.
J
We
have
a
vicinity
map
just
showing
this
area
ime
Iron
Mountain
Estates
is
directly
to
the
north,
that's
already
being
developed
under
construction
to
the
northeast
of
that
or
to
the
east
of
that
is
Iron,
Mountain,
Vista
and
again
star
Middle
School
to
the
West.
So
next
slide.
This
area
is
rapidly
developing.
J
As
Brent
noted.
This
was
originally
for
Lot
2,
which
was
a
larger
area
that
is
now
Iron,
Mountain
Estates
and
we're
just
requesting
to
remove
it,
because
it's
no
longer
needed
for
that.
Lot
too,
that
is
redeveloped,
will
not
affect
any
access.
That's
existing
on
the
existing
lot
three
and
lot
four
that
are
remaining
within
the
county.
J
Then
we
put
this
over
an
arrow
just
to
show
where
there
used
to
be
that
access
road
from
floating,
feather
up
into
Lot
2,
which
is
no
longer
needed.
So,
as
I
noted,
we
will
agree
with
any
staff
conditions
from
Ada
County
development
services
and
again
no
agencies
commented
on
this
and
represented
any
issues.
So
I
will
stand
for
any
questions
you
may
have
for
this.
K
You
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
brief,
quick
questions.
We
we
are
the
residents
at
9150
West.
What
used
to
be
floating
Feathering
is
now
Broken.
Arrow
and
I
would
just
like
to
thank
the
Todd
Campbell
Organization
for
initiating
this
vacation,
as
they
had
agreed
to
do
once
they
no
longer
needed
the
easement.
If
it's
approved,
I
just
wondered
when
it
would
be
effective
and
will
we
receive
anything
in
writing.
F
The
F
so
Mr
chairman,
so
if
you
do
approve
the
vacation,
what
will
happen
is
we'll
record
a
document
in
the
recorder's
office
and
once
that
document
is
recorded
in
the
recorder's
office,
then
that's
when
the
vacation
takes
our
vacation
of
the
easement
takes
effect.
A
Is
there
anyone
else
that
wishes
to
speak
on
this
application,
if
not
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
Two
zero:
two
three
chairman
just
before
you.
F
A
The
commission:
no,
if
not
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
application,
202-300-136-vac.
A
Application
being
closed
here,
a
contest
money
being
heard.
Is
there
a
motion.
D
Mr
chair
I'll,
move
to
approve
application
number.
A
I
second,
the
motion.
Okay,
thank
you.
You've
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
chairman
application.
L
2023.00229-V
is
the
application
before
you
tonight.
Applicant
is
Gary
butcher.
L
The
property
we're
going
to
be
speaking
about
is
kind
of
southeast
of
Meridian
Northeast
of
kuna,
just
west
of
Cloverdale
Road
South
of
Columbia
Road
on
and
it's
on,
Stewart
Road.
More
specifically,
this
is
a
variance
request
to
the
setback
requirements
for
an
existing
accessory
structure.
The
subject
property
is
located:
8200
South
Stewart
Road
and
contains
five
acres
and
the
rural
urban
transition.
Zoning
District.
L
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
permit
the
existing
1000
square
foot
accessory
structure.
That's
currently
used
for
agricultural
storage.
Back
in
January
of
2023,
there
was
a
conditional
use
permit
and
a
master
site
plan
application
that
was
approved
with
the
condition
to
either
permit
the
existing
accessory
structure
via
a
variance
which
is
before
tonight
or
have
it
moved
or
demolished,
and
so
you'll
see
on
the
screen
here.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
there,
we
go
it's
the
structure
here,
that's
on
the
the
southern
property
line.
L
L
L
So
this
detached
accessory
structure,
as
noted
on
the
screen
here,
it
is
located
in
the
rear,
yard
setback,
but
it
will
not
be
a
special
ride
or
privilege.
Accessory
structures
are
accessory
uses
for
the
rural
urban
transition
district
and
there
are
properties,
neighboring
properties
that
have
structures
also
within
the
setbacks
that
are
required
for
the
zone.
L
The
next
is
that
the
the
variants
shall
not
I'm
sorry.
The
variance
shall
relieve
and
undo
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site.
The
structure
was
built
in
2007
for
agricultural
purposes
and
then,
as
I
noted
in
2002
I'm,
sorry
in
2003
we
had
a
contractor's
yard
conditional
use
approval
and
also
in
2002
there
was
an
additional
approval
for
the
the
pipeline.
L
I
forget
what
the
site
is
called,
but
essentially
it's
the
the
Williams
pipeline.
They
have
a
substation
on
the
site,
and
that
was
a
conditional
use.
That
was
also
approved
back
in
2002,
and
so
both
approvals
contain
that
condition
that
I
mentioned
that
this
either
be
moved
or
demolished,
and
so,
while
the
structure
was
built
without
a
building
permit
back
in
2007
it,
it
is
an
agricultural
structure.
At
this
time.
L
You
also
note
on
your
screen
here.
There
is
that
pipeline
easement
that
runs
through
the
site.
The
the
lines
don't
necessarily
depict
exactly
how
wide
it
is,
but
it
is
a
75
foot,
wide
utility
easement
that
runs
for
the
Northwest
pipeline,
so
that
accessory
structure.
That's
in
the
setback,
as
I
stated
it
it
has
a
there
is
a
detriment
if
it.
L
If
the
variance
is
not
approved,
the
applicant
will
have
a
hardship
and
having
to
pay
for
the
removal
or
movement
of
that
that
structure
and
lastly,
the
variance
shall
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public
health
safety
and
Welfare
based
on
comments
received
from
various
public
agencies.
This
will
not
be
a
detriment
to
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare.
We
did
not
receive
any
public
comments
from
Neighbors
in
opposition
or
any
comments
whatsoever.
L
D
L
Commissioner,
chair
and
Beck
commissioner
Davidson,
so
if,
if
the
variance
was
approved,
the
applicant
would
have
to
come
forth
with
some
sort
of
building
permit
to
approve
it
as
a
residential
accessory
structure
or
they
can
go
the
route
of
getting
an
agricultural
structure
permit.
So
this
property
was
recently
received
agricultural
exemption,
so
they
would
not
have
to
meet
the
full
scale
and
scope
of
a
building
permit,
but
they
would
have
to
at
least
come
to
our
office
and
receive
approval
of
a
zoning
certificate
alongside
that
agriculture
agricultural
structure
permit.
A
B
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
me
thank
you
for
doing
such
a
great
job.
Connor.
It's
been
quite
the
process
with
this,
since
we
have
the
two
other
applications
going
on,
but
this
is
our
condition
of
approval.
In
order
to
move
forward.
My
name
is
Lindsay.
Fastinelli
I
live
at
8200,
South
Stewart,
so
I
am
the
property
owner.
B
We
would
really
like
to
keep
this
structure
because
it
currently
houses
our
chicken
coop
part
of
it
anyways
our
wood,
pile
Machinery.
We
have
for
our
mules
because
we
have
mules
on
pasture
I,
think
Connor's
pretty
much
done
a
great
job
of
kind
of
explaining
why
we
applied
for
it.
So
I,
don't
know
what
else
you'd
like
to
hear
from
me,
but
we
would
just
like
to
be
able
to
keep
the
structure
if
possible.
E
A
B
While
moving,
it
would
be
hard,
so,
with
the
the
current
application
we
have
for
having
the
business
of
the
property
and
having
the
equipment
there,
we
don't
really
have
a
location
for
it
and
then
we'd
also
have
to
move
our
chicken
coop,
which
it's
a
big,
also
an
out
like
an
area,
that's
kind
of
enclosed
on
the
outside
and
they
can
go
out
to
pasture
as
well.
M
B
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
other
questions
all
right.
Thank
you.
Lindsay
thank
you
is
Gary
butcher
here.
B
A
Good
enough,
all
right
is
there
anyone
else
from
the
audience
wish
to
attest
finance
application.
Anything
else.
We
need
to
add
to
the
record.
No,
sir,
okay,
we
will
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
A
2023-00229V
Gary
butcher
application
being
closed,
the
or
probably
Karen
being
closed.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
from
the
from
the
board
or
a
motion?
Mr.
D
A
Right
you've
heard
emotion:
is
there
any
other
discussion
hearing
no
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries
All
Right
Moving
On
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application
number
2023-00282,
Dash
V,
that's
AC,
Sean
Cardoza.
Ask
for
the
staff
gives
a
report.
N
N
N
N
It's
the
unpermitted
Edition
that
was
recently
added
to
the
East
End
of
the
structure,
which
is
why
the
variants
and
accessory
use
application
are
required.
This
Edition
does
does
line
up
with
the
location
of
the
original
structure
within
the
setback.
However,
Ada
County
code
would
require
that
that
the
addition
be
located
outside
of
the
setback,
regardless
of
where
the
existing
structure
was
located.
Unless
this
variance
is
granted,
if
the
variants
were
to
be
denied,
the
unpermitted
addition
would
need
to
be
removed.
N
However,
the
original
structure
with
the
game,
room
and
restroom
could
remain
within
the
setback.
There
are
other
accessory
structures
in
the
area
that
are
within
the
setback,
including
an
existing
accessory
structure
located
directly
to
the
north.
On
a
neighboring
property.
There
were
no
agency
objections
to
the
application.
One
neighbor
did
provide
comment
with
concerns
about
the
addition
being
built
without
a
permit
and
that
the
game,
room
and
restroom
should
not
have
been
allowed
and
that
the
requirements
of
a
variance
have
not
been
met.
N
The
variance
requirements
are
that
it
shall
not
Grant
a
right
or
special
privilege-
that's
not
otherwise
allowed
in
the
base
District
that
it
shall
relieve
a
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site
and
that
it
shall
not
be
detrimental
to
the
public.
Health
safety
and
Welfare
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
variants
and
accessory
use.
Application
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
and
I'll
enter
this
presentation,
as
exhibit
21.
C
N
At
that
time
there
was
a
setback
that
it
did
not
meet.
However,
Ada
County
did
approve
it
in
its
current
location.
N
A
A
D
Ahead,
the
property
to
the
north.
Did
you
say
that
they
have
structures
that
are
also
encroaching
on
the
setback?
That's.
N
Correct
that
structure
directly
to
the
north
of
the
structure
in
question
is
located
in
the
setback.
It
has
not
received
approval,
but
it
is
required
to
receive
a
variance
if
it's
going
to
remain
there.
D
And
is
this
the
same
neighbor
who
had
concerns
with
this
application
chairman.
E
A
Thank
you
is
John
Cordova
in
the
audience.
O
Hello,
sir
good
evening,
good
evening,
thank
you
for
your
time.
My
name
is
Sean
Cardoza
I
live
at
432,
East
Beacon
Light
Road,
along
with
my
wife,
Laura
Cardoza,
and
my
eight-year-old
daughter.
That's
here
again,
I'd
like
to
just
start
out
by
apologizing.
For
you
know,
I
understand
the
ignorance
of
the
law
is
not
an
excuse
and
I
should
have
checked
ahead
of
time.
Before
doing
this,
I
would
like
to
say,
and
just
kind
of
go
over
real,
quick
how
this
came
about
and
why
we
decided
to
make
this
decision.
O
I
brought
a
couple
of
points
so
that
I
can
kind
of
show
it
out.
So
this
was
our
original
barn
and
you
saw
the
pictures
of
what
it
looks
like
now
when
we
first
bought
this
property
a
few
years
ago.
O
It
was
previously
used
by
a
landscape
gentleman
that
owned
the
property
and
he
had
a
lot
of
rock
on
the
property,
and
we
have
horses,
our
family
horses,
and
so
we
took
this
far
end
down
here
and
had
the
all
the
rock
removed
and
we
used
this
existing,
which
was
used
as
a
boat
or
RV
storage.
We
opened
up
the
side
of
it
and
made
it
a
place
for
our
Sanctuary
for
our
horses
to
be
able
to
get
out
of
the
weather.
O
Just
you
know
it
never
talked
to
the
county
at
all.
To
I
knew
no
knowledge
that
about
a
setback
where
I
came
from.
There
was
five
foot
setbacks
in
the
back
of
the
properties.
I
didn't
know
anything
about
25
foot
so
but
I
got
properties
prices
on
what
it
would
cost
to
rebuild
it,
and
it
was
way
out
of
our
budget.
O
So
we
found
out
you
know:
covid
prices
were
really
high
and
a
bit
too
much
for
us,
so
we
decided
to
redo
it
with
all
new
metal,
got
some
advice
on
what
to
do,
and
we
plan
to
put
some
new
doors
on
it,
make
it
look
nice
and
aesthetic
for
the
area,
something
that
would
be
really
nice
and
user
friendly
and
and
look
good
for
the
neighborhood
and,
of
course,
bring
value
to
the
neighborhood
and
for
our
family
with
our
horses.
O
This
is
the
map
of
our
property
at
the
time
the
best
use
of
our
space.
This
was
that
area
that
we,
this
was
before
the
person
that
owned
it
parked
a
lot
of
cars
here.
This
is
where
we
turned
into
a
kind
of
a
little
Arena
area
for
horses
where
we
can
ride
around
in.
We
ride
usually
anywhere
from
two
to
up
to
three
days
a
week
three
days
this
week,
so
we
were
riding
in
this
area
here
we
created
some
pins
out
here
that
worked
really
well.
O
Obviously,
anywhere
else
for
us
to
put
a
sanctuary
for
our
horse.
Would
horses
would
be
kind
of
not
make
sense?
We
would
be
taking
away
space
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
other
stuff,
as
you
can
see,
the
the
subject
property
she
was
referring
to
in
the
north
is
our
neighbor's
property.
There's
another
storage
shed
there
that
her
main
house
is
back
over
here,
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
pretty
much.
Our
barn
is
blocked
from
her
view.
O
So
it's
it
really
would
be
a
good
spot
and
the
best
use
of
space
for
us
to
do
it
there.
So
that
was
the
decision
we
made
and
we
began
to
re-wrap
this
prop
Liberty
and
with
all
new
metal,
and
once
we
got
around
to
that
end
down
there,
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
add-on
to
that
property
or
add-on
over
there,
where
our
horses
can
now
walk
in
and
get
out
of
the
weather,
we
made
it
really
nice
for
them
and
a
really
great
use
of
space.
O
O
I
was
approached
after
we
had
gone
all
the
way
around
re-wrapping
this
until
I
was
about
to
this
area,
was
when
I
was
approached
by
the
county
and
told
that
I
needed
to
talk
to
planning
to
find
out
if
this
would
needed
a
permit
or
not
had
a
phone
call
with
them
at
that
point
in
time
on,
the
phone
still
never
had
any
conversations
about
the
20
foot
off
25
foot
offset,
but
I
did
explain
that
I
was
putting
new
metal
on
the
property.
I
didn't
talk
about
that.
O
Shame
on
me
for
that,
and
he
said
you
don't
need
permits
to
do
that.
But
at
the
time
I
said
if
I
wanted
to
do
a
bathroom
or
do
something
down
here
on
the
end,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
the
house.
What
would
that
take
plane
permits,
so
I
made
an
appointment
met
with
them,
sat
with
them
and
he
explained
I
could
even
make
it
almost
a
living
space
in
there,
but
it
would
take
all
these
other
steps
that
I
couldn't
afford
to
do.
O
But
if
I
said
really,
I
just
want
a
place
where
I
can
have
Christmases
with
the
family
back
there.
If
we
want
to
have
game
night
or
something
use
the
bathroom
while
we're
working
with
the
horses
just
make
it
a
good
usable
family
space
and
we
decided
to
do
that
and
pull
the
permits
for
the
toilet
for
the
bathroom,
so
it
just
has
a
toilet,
pedestal
sink
and
then
a
sink
over
underneath
this
window.
Here,
then,
I
was
approached
again
after
they.
O
You
know,
took
an
aerial
view
and
said
you
added
on
to
this,
and
you
need
to
do
a
variance,
so
I
said
understandable.
What
I
need
to
do
and
I
followed
every
step
along
the
way
so
I
I
made
a
mistake.
I
should
have
got
a
variance
in
the
first
place
or
not
even
added
on
to
it.
But
I
think
this
is
the
best
route
and
the
best
use
of
our
space.
Again,
there's
really
no
view
for
anything.
O
D
So
apparently
your
neighbor
has
submitted
concerns.
Do
you
want
to
address
those.
O
I
found
that
out
this
morning,
I
have
no
problem
addressing
those.
If
this
is
the
right
time
to
do
that,
I
can
address
those
go
ahead.
Okay,
first
off
the
property
for
cell
I,
did
put
the
property
for
sale
after
we've
been
feeling
a
bit
intimidated
by
the
neighbor.
Put
it
for
sale
initially
and
I
did
initially
note
down
that
it
had
a
potential
mother-in-law
quarters
when
I
first
met
with
the
county.
O
Talking
about
the
bathroom,
he
did
say
that
we
could
go
that
route,
but
it
would
take
all
these
different
engineer
reports
and
different
things
that
I
chose
not
to
do
it,
so
that
was
an
option
and
as
a
real
estate
agent
I
can
explain
that
to
people
when
they
come.
It
wasn't
about
a
week
and
a
half
two
weeks
into
it
that
I
ended
up
taking
that
off.
After
talking
with
my
wife
about
it,
we
decided-
that's-
probably
let's
just
take
that
off,
because
it
could
cause
future
issues.
O
So
I
did
take
that
off
of
there
I
it's
not
even
on
the
market
anymore.
We
decided
we're
just
gonna
stay
there
as
of
right
now,
so
we're
not
trying
to
sell
the
property
anymore
at
all
noise
from
the
game.
Room
we've
never
had
anything
out
there
yet
to
date.
So
there's
been
absolutely
no
noise
coming
from
this
place
other
than
maybe
me
working
in
the
shop
or
working
with
our
horses
or
anything
like
that,
we
haven't
had
any
get-togethers
out
there
with
family.
We
haven't
done
anything
like
that.
O
Yet
so
I
don't
understand
the
noise.
Let's
see
the
county
visits.
I
pretty
much
went
down
that
timeline
that,
by
the
time
I
had
my
first
card
on
the
door
from
Kevin
his
card,
and
he
could
he
could
contest
to
that.
He
didn't
say
anything
on
it
other
than
a
card
on
the
door.
I
didn't
call
him
at
that
time.
I
probably
should
have
I,
don't
know
why
he
was
stopping
at
my
house
the
first
time
he.
O
Correct
yep,
he
did
send
me
a
letter
and
I
called
him
right
away
and
working
with
them.
They
had
the
whole
time
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
it
right.
O
Let's
see
under
construction
without
permits,
didn't
need
permits
initially,
when
I
was
just
wrapping
it
with
metal
and
then
once
we
got
down
to
that
point
is
when
yeah
I
needed
to
get
a
permit.
So
initially
there
were
no
permits
required.
Knowledge
of
the
25
foot
variants
like
I,
said
where
I
come
from.
All
the
back
of
the
properties
and
sides
are
five
foot
in
real
estate:
I'm
a
real
estate
broker
broker
and
owner
Brokerage
in
another
state
and
yeah
I've.
Never
heard
of
that.
O
I
didn't
know
that
here,
so
yes,
I
apologize
for
that.
I
should
have
checked
that
ahead
of
time.
Horses,
like
I,
said
my
wife
and
I.
We
we're
very
clean
people.
Those
horses
stalls
get
cleaned
once,
if
not
twice
a
day.
Sometimes
more
I
do
till
it
into
the
arena
area
of
an
arena
groomer.
Also
we
have
an
extra
garbage.
Can
we
throw
it
away
every
day?
O
Our
neighbor
has
two
horses
as
well:
I,
don't
believe
that
gets
cleaned
up
very
often
so
I
believe
that
the
smell
is
probably
coming
from
the
neighbor's
property
himself,
not
ours,
because
ours
is
extremely
clean.
Code
enforcement
and
building
inspectors
have
been
to
our
property
and
they
could
contest
if
they
smelt
any
odd
smells
from
the
property.
How.
O
P
O
Let's
see,
she
also
knows
that
I've
lived
here,
the
entire
time.
Yes,
I
do
own
a
brokerage
in
another
state.
My
daughter
goes
to
Coal
Valley
Christian.
My
wife
teaches
at
College
of
Idaho
I'm,
a
real
estate
broker
here
and
a
real
estate
broker
in
another
state,
I'm,
not
going
to
say
that
state,
because
the
people
don't
like
it.
O
So
she
knows
I
live
there.
She
knows
I've
lived
there
the
whole
time
she
pulled
up
and
showed
my
homes
of
Idaho
description,
which
I
did
that
over
10
years
ago
and
I
don't
use
homes
of
Idaho.
So
I
can
go
change
it.
If
that's,
what
needs
to
be
done?
I
don't
live
in
California,
but
I
did
lived
in
Tulare
County,
Central
California
and
that's
I
still
own
a
brokerage
there.
So
I
do
go
back
once
a
month
to
work
and
do
our
sales
meetings
and
I'm
back
here
home.
O
Yeah,
when
I
first
decided
to
do
it,
we
were
at
a
an
event
across
the
street.
A
neighbor
had
a
little
get
together.
I
told
her
I
wanted
to
do.
I
was
going
to
redo
the
barn,
and
she
said:
well,
you
don't
have
to
tell
me
I
said
well,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
it's
back
there
by
your
property.
I'm
gonna
make
it
look
good
and
fix
it
up.
I
didn't
tell
her
what
I
was
doing
to
it.
O
It's
my
property
I
should
be
able
to
peaceably,
enjoy
my
property
and
what
I
do
to
it.
I
should
get
to
do
it
as
long
as
I.
Do
it
legally
and
I
understand
that,
but
I
did
tell
her
I
I
up
front
told
her.
That
I
was
going
to
be
doing
that.
She
said
well
I
appreciate
that
at
the
time,
but
she
did
said
you
don't
have
to
tell
me,
though
so
I
did
it
and
then
actually
probably
about
last
year.
O
She
served
me
with
some
paperwork
from
looked
like
an
attorney
about
the
property
line
being
off,
and
she
wanted
me
to
sign
the
paperwork
saying
that
I
was
using
it.
She
could
take
it
away
at
any
time.
I
ended
up,
saying:
I'm
not
going
to
sign
your
paperwork,
but
I'll
I'll
get
a
survey
and
let's,
let's
just
take
a
look
at
it,
I
spent
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
got
a
survey.
O
The
property
line
is
actually
off
it's
on
fences
on
my
side
in
the
on
her
side
in
the
back,
showing
that
part
of
that
property
is
being
used
by
her.
That's
me
on
the
front:
it's
off
a
little
bit.
I
asked
her.
If
I
could
put
a
fence
up
I
offered
to
spend
the
money
to
do
it,
I
told
her
it's
going
to
cost
me
about
10
000,
but
I
will
pay
for
it.
Let's
make
it
right,
because
if
I
do
sell
it
someday
I
will
sell
it.
We
do
want
more
land,
someday
and
I.
O
Don't
want
the
the
next
person
have
to
deal
with
this,
and
so
she
said
no,
that
this
is
now
a
monument
and
you
can't
move
it.
So
that
was
the
first
time
that
we
started
this
and
then
later
on,
I've
had
multiple
grades.
I
did
find
out
that
the
previous
owner
also
did
move
out,
because
there
was
some
complaints
on
him
as
well.
O
So
this
I'm,
not
the
first
one
and
obviously
there's
been
others
I
like
her
a
lot
I
like
I,
enjoy
my
neighbors
I
love
my
neighbors,
and
if
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
a
good
relationship
with
her,
if
there's
a
chance
that
we
can
still
do
that,
have
no
issues
with
her
at
all
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
make
it
right
is
what
I
want
to
do
at
this
point.
So
there's
no
fence
there
currently
there's
a
fence.
It's
a
it's
a
wire
fence
to
share.
O
A
That
is
Jim
or
Kristen
Escobar
here.
A
H
Q
Thank
you,
chairman,
commissioners
of
the
board,
Jim
Escobar
I
live
at
3090,
Aspen,
Ridge
Lane.
We
share
the
parcel
that
is
directly
to
the
east.
So
when
you
look
at
Aspen
ridgelain,
that's
actually
on
our
parcel.
So
we
drive
by
this
area
where
the
horses
are
where
the
barn
Edition
is
and
we're
very
familiar
with
with
the
area
we've
been.
We've
been
here
for
I
want
to
say
seven
years
now,
six
years
now
we
also
experience
some
abuse
from
this
particular
neighbor
aggressiveness.
Q
It
a
slander
and
a
rallying
of
neighbors
that
was
quite
ugly
and
I
know
that
she
as
well
the
previous
owners
of
the
home,
had
attacked
them.
So
I
I
do
hope
and
encourage
you
to
consider
a
Noisy
Neighbor,
that's
being
obtuse
and
not
being
friendly
to
to
her
own
neighbors.
It's
it's
sad
and
and
I
am
hurt
by
it,
because
I've
had
to
watch
emotions
of
others
having
to
deal
with
this
I
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
addition.
It
was
a
neat
line
on
the
North
edge
of
of
the
property.
Q
It
was
a
continuation
of
the
existing
portion
and
it's
it's
hard
to
even
notice
that
it
was
an
addition.
It's
it
is
not
very
visible.
Even
to
that
neighboring
property,
it's
visible
most
to
our
property.
We
are
in
full
support
what
we've
seen
the
cardozes
do
with
their
land,
with
their
horses
with
the
the
painting
and
the
landscaping
and
everything
that
they've
been
doing.
They've
just
done
a
fantastic
job,
beautifying
that
that
parcel-
and
it's
been
quite
significant
from
from
where
it
was
so.
Q
The
neat
line
was
a
continuation
of
the
roof
slope.
So
again
it
makes
it
look
like
the
addition
was
always
there
I
frankly
didn't
even
really
notice
it
that
it
was
an
addition
just
because
it
was
built
well
until
further
along
when
I
did
see
a
lean-to
on
I'm
like
oh
okay,
they
did
a
little
addition
to
it
and
I.
Q
Let's
see,
neatline
I,
never
smell
anything.
I
never
have
any
issues
with
their
horses.
In
fact,
I
love
being
able
to
drive
by
them
every
day.
Their
property
is
well
kept
and,
and
I
guess
I
just
want
to
point
out
the
fact
that
when
you
do
have
a
Noisy
Neighbor
in
a
situation
like
this
and
when
it's
so
riddled
with
lies,
I
think
it's
important.
You
guys
hear
a
few
of
those
lies,
especially
when
she
says
hi
how
everyone
will
not
lie.
Yes,.
A
Sir,
don't
attack
anybody
like.
Q
That,
okay,
it
does
not.
It
does
not
obtrude
on
on
her
parcel
this
Edition,
so
I
think
that
maybe
her
complaint
is
more
so
about
the
bathroom
and
the
the
use
which
has
already
been
pre
previously
approved,
where
the
addition
is
and
the
setback
is,
it
doesn't
obtrude
on
it.
It's
not
can't
be
seen
it's
not
in
her
front
yard.
If
there's
a
barn,
you
can
see
it
on
the
aerial.
There's
a
sand
riding
arena
Arena
that
I
never
really
even
see
get
used.
Q
Yeah
I
think
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
as
I
finish
up
is,
is
please
don't
allow
one
particular
neighbor
to
to
complain
and
ruin
a
situation
when
they're
really
doing
the
right
thing
and
they
have
been
doing
the
right
thing
and
I.
Think
you'll
hear
from
a
lot
of
the
neighbors
that
there's
a
lot
of
love
and
gratitude
and
appreciation
for
these
Neighbors.
Being
here
and
and
one
Noisy
Neighbor
shouldn't
have
so
much
power
and
influence
over
other
people's
private
lives.
Q
R
M
How
are
you
so
we
own
the
property
that
borders
the
most
visible
portion
of
the
expansion
and
I?
Usually
wouldn't
speak
up
as
something
like
this,
but
I
read
the
letter
and
I
just
had
to
say
something
from
my
own
Consciousness.
The
credos
are
amazing
people
they're
the
third
family,
to
reside
in
the
home
since
we've
lived
next
door
and
by
far
the
best
in
every
possible
way,
I'm
a
little
ignorant
as
to
the
legalities
of
everything.
M
But
what
I
do
know
is
that
they
built
their
addition,
truly
believing
that
they
were
doing
everything
right
when
they
learned
that
they
did
something
incorrect.
They
were
shocked.
The
cardozas
are
amazing,
neighbors
I
do
not
see
anything
at
all
that
is
different
compared
to
any
of
the
neighbors
around
them.
The
addition
they
did
to
the
barn
looks
absolutely
in
its
place
and
does
not
stand
out.
It's
unfortunate
that
the
course
of
action
has
occurred
in
a
backwards
manner,
but
it
was
truly
done
out
of
lack
of
knowledge
and
nothing
else.
M
A
Did
you
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record?
Please.
P
Thanks
for
having
me
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Sienna.
Jones
I
represent
1024
East
Beacon
Light
Road
a
couple
Parcels
over
as
well
as
my
neighbors
to
the
West
at
880,
Beacon,
Light,
Road,
East,
Beacon,
Light,
Road,
that's
RJ
and
Colleen.
Thomas
I
just
have
to
make
sure
that
the
Commissioners
know
that
everything
that
cardozes
have
done
has
served
to
enrich
the
community
and
to
improve
property
values
for
all
of
their
neighbors,
and
this
pattern
of
harassment
and
belligerent
attitudes
towards
the
community
at
large
has
been
quite
a
detriment.
P
It's
caused
undue
emotional
strain
and
multiple
neighbors
have
had
to
withstand
this
kind
of
treatment,
and
we
just
don't
want
to
continue
this
as
the
status
quo.
P
There
have
been
multiple
properties
on
in
our
neighborhood
that
have
gone
for
sale
recently
and
their
Improvement
to
the
property
has
only
served
to
like
I
said
Elevate,
those
property
values,
and
there
are
multiple
instances
of
accessory
buildings
within
the
setback
all
along
our
road
on
the
north
side
of
East
vegan
lake.
So
we
are
just
in
support
as
a
community
and
we
really
want
to
see
the
community
to
proceed
in
a
manner.
That's
good
for
all
the
neighbors.
A
S
Russell
Campbell
I,
live
I
also
live
I
actually
live
right
down
the
street
from
the
cardozas.
We
moved
there
a
little
less
than
two
years
ago
and
we've
seen
a
couple
things:
we've
seen
the
improvements
that
they've
made
to
the
property,
especially
on
this
Barn.
The
work
is,
is
impeccable
on
the
interior
and
the
exterior.
S
You
saw
the
pictures,
it
looks
nice,
they
they
keep,
they
keep
their
play.
I
would
just
testify.
They
keep
their
place,
really
clean
and
really
nice.
The
also
the
the
character
of
the
cardoza's
there
they're
great
neighbors
they're,
they're
peace,
loving
people
they're
the
kind
of
people
that
consider
the
interests
of
other
people
and
not
just
their
own
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
testify
to
that.
So.
A
A
2023-00282-V-A-C
is
there
a
motion
or
further
discussion
from
the
board.
D
Obviously
thank
everybody
for
coming
out
and
testifying
on
this
on
this
issue.
I
am
not
really
seeing
anything
substantial
that
would
prevent
me
from
supporting
a
variance
it.
Obviously,
it
would
be
a
hardship
to
to
move
that
property
move
or
demolish,
obviously
very
expensive.
It
was
already
built
in
1975.
D
it
to
me.
I,
don't
see
a
special
right
or
privilege,
we've
seen
testimony
that
there
are
accessory
structures,
even
in
the
neighbor's
yard,
and
around
the
neighborhood
that
may
encroach
on
on
setbacks,
which
is
a
common
thing
when
you're
out
in
the
country.
It's
something
we
come
across
quite
a
bit.
D
C
To
go
ahead,
Mr
chairman
I
I,
would
concur
with
what
commissioner
Davidson
has
said
and
also
indicate
that,
based
on
my
understanding,
Ada
County
did
it
in
fact
approve
the
existing
building
in
1975.
At
the
same
lot
line
he
extended
that
building,
based
on
his
understanding
that
it
was
a
proper
use
of
the
of
the
property
line
so
and
then
everything
that
commissioner
Davidson
has
said
as
well,
so
I
I'm
inclined
to
support
the
application
as
well.
A
D
Mr,
chair
I
will
move
to
approve
application
number.
D
A
Okay,
moving
on
I
will
open
the
public
carrying
on
application
to
2022
zero.
Two
four
seven
six
cpapc
spring
Rock
Development
I,
will
get
a
report
from
our
staff.
Go
ahead
all
right.
One
moment.
T
T
Commissioners
Brent
Moore
with
Ada
County
development
services
before
I
begin.
I
will
just
note
that
online
via
WebEx,
we
do
have
a
representative
from
achd
Christy
inselman,
as
well
as
Darren
fluke
from
Jacobs
Engineering,
who
helped
the
county
review
some
of
our
our
technical
documents.
So
do
they
want
to
testify
not
necessarily
only
if
there
are
questions?
Okay,
so
good
enough.
All
right
questions
are
there
to
answer
so
before
you
as
a
planned
Community
comprehensive
plan
Amendment
for
the
spring
Rock
planned
community.
T
The
plan
Community
application
process
requires
two
steps:
the
first
being
a
comp
plan
amendment
to
designate
the
property
as
planned
community
on
a
future
land
use
map
and
adopt
a
comprehensive
plan
for
the
site.
The
Second
Step.
The
implementation
plan
would
adopt
a
zoning
ordinance
for
the
property
and
include
more
detailed
information
regarding
financing
phasing
and
Design.
T
The
intent
of
requiring
two
steps
is
to
First
determine
the
overall
compatibility
of
the
site
and
proposed
plan
prior
to
developing
specific
ordinance
and
design
details.
So,
as
you
can
see
we're
at
the
last
step
of
phase
one,
and
so
if
this
application
were
approved
tonight,
the
applicant
would
need
to
go
through.
Oh
thank
you.
T
The
applicant
would
need
to
go
through
the
hearing
process,
a
second
time
with
more
detailed
information.
So
this
is
step
one
of
two
prior
to
the
application
being
submitted.
Scoping
sessions
were
held
with
the
affected
service
providers
and
transportation
agencies
to
receive
their
input
to
public
involvement.
Sessions
were
also
held
by
the
applicant
and
which
all
Property
Owners
within
a
mile
of
the
site,
were
invited
to
attend
reports
and
analyzes
were
also
required
in
the
specific
areas
listed
on
the
screen
detailing
how
each
would
be
impacted
or
addressed
by
the
development.
T
Here's
an
overview
of
the
site.
It
is
generally
located
along
10,
Mile,
Creek,
Road,
South
of
Hubbard
Road
and
North
of
kuna
Road
and
here's
a
closer
view
of
the
property.
Just
some
things
to
note.
The
New
York
Canal
butts
the
site
to
the
Northwest.
The
Falcon
Crest
Golf
Course
is
located
to
the
West,
as
well
as
the
Valor
master
plan
community,
which
is
being
incorporated
as
part
of
the
Falcon
Crest
Golf
Course,
and
then
the
channel
for
10
Mile
Creek
actually
runs
diagonally
through
the
length
of
the
property.
T
Although
this
channel
is
dry
a
lot
of
the
year-
and
this
is
an
image
of
the
Valor
master
plan-
Community
I
just
mentioned-
this-
would
have
butt
the
site
to
the
to
the
West,
and
the
developments
would
be
connected
by
Five
Mile
Road
and
a
new
collector
Road.
That's
connecting
West
to
Cloverdale
Road.
T
T
And
this
thing
was
just
highlights
some
of
the
employment
areas
within
the
area.
Just
briefly,
the
Cuna
East
urban
renewal,
District
Idaho
Corrections
campus
just
announced
an
expansion.
My
crown,
of
course
announced
an
expansion,
the
Gateway
East
urban
renewal
District
in
Boise.
T
And
this
is
an
overview
of
other
recent
planned
Community
applications
of
two
thousand
or
more
homes
in
and
around
Ada
County.
The
circles
show
the
general
location
and
relative
size
with
the
number,
in
parentheses,
being
the
approximate
number
of
homes
proposed.
So
as
you'll
see,
there
are
other.
Similarly
sized
planned
communities
in
the
vicinity
of
spring
rock,
with
larger
ones
proposed
around
the
edges
of
the
county
and
as
noted
in
the
population
analysis,
Compass
anticipates
over
a
hundred
thousand
additional
homes
being
constructed
native
County
by
the
year
2050,
based
on
their
current
projections.
T
T
Irrigation
water
will
be
provided
from
on-site
Wells
utilizing
existing
water
rights
and
in
order
to
minimize
the
amount
of
water
removed
from
the
aquifer
treated
water
from
the
water
treatment
facility,
will
also
be
used
for
irrigation
and
spring
rock
is
also
exploring
the
feasibility
of
injecting
excess
water
from
the
treatment
facility
into
the
aquifer.
When
not
needed
for
irrigation,
and
then
just
to
highlight
some
of
the
road
improvements.
T
T
So
achd
has
approved
the
proposed
internal
roadway
layout
and
the
traffic
impact
study,
which
provides
an
analysis
of
improvements
to
surrounding
roadways
and
intersections
needed
to
mitigate
impacts
of
the
development.
This
image
shows
the
roadways
and
intersections,
which
were
required
to
be
analyzed
as
part
of
the
study.
T
And
this
slide
highlights
roadways
and
intersections
included
in
achd's
integrated
five-year
work
plan
and
capital
Improvement
plan,
so
the
area
is
shaded
blue
or
are
within
the
five-year
work
plans
they're
anticipated
to
be
began
within
the
next
five
years.
Properties
they're
outside
the
the
roadways
intersection,
shaded
orange,
are
anticipated
to
be
needed
by
2040,
but
are
not
currently
funded
or
programmed
so
achd
will
require
an
updated
traffic
to
impact
study
be
submitted
with
each
plaque
to
determine
which
improvements
will
be
required
to
mitigate
each
phase.
T
A
concern
has
been
expressed
regarding
a
portion
of
the
site
being
designated
as
Prime
farmland
as
map
on
the
left.
Just
shows
the
10
Mile
Creek
Channel,
as
it
cuts
through
the
property,
has
been
designated
as
Prime
Farmland.
However,
the
properties
not
being
farmed
and
has
instead
been
used
for
grazing
for
the
past
nearly
100
years,
the
applicant
knows
the
long,
narrow
nature
of
the
designated
farmland
and
channel
for
10
Mile
Creek,
which,
by
sex
it
would
make
farming
of
the
site
difficult.
T
Fire
protection
will
be
provided
by
cunifire,
and
the
applicant
has
reached
a
preliminary
agreement
with
the
district
to
prepay
off
fire
impact
fees
up
front
in
order
to
construct
a
new
fire
station
on
property.
The
district
owns
near
the
site
on
Cloverdale
Road.
Additional
contributions
would
be
made
following
approval
of
the
first
plot
to
cover
operational
costs
until
a
sufficient
tax
base
is
established.
T
C
Mr
chairman
I
have
yeah
go
ahead,
just
just
a
couple
comments
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
is
this
is,
as
you
said,
phase
one
and
it's
just
a
calm
plan
proposal
and
everything
else,
because
I
have
obviously
some
water
transportation,
fire,
connectability
and
all
those
kinds
of
things.
But
my
question
is
it's
my
understanding
as
well
that
the
applicant
has
reviewed
the
128
2003
a
letter
from
the
county
Engineers
right
and
that
their
fully
engaged
in
trying
to
address
those
issues
correct.
T
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Daley,
that's
correct.
The
applicant
is
aware
of
the
engineers
comments.
Ada
County
engineer
did
request
more
detailed
information
on
the
wells
that
would
be
providing
water
to
the
site
and
that's
that
level
of
detail
is
what
would
be
provided
in
phase
two.
As
your
correct
applicant
is
aware
of
of
the
engineer's
request.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
the
of
our
staff,
not
at
this
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay.
The
applicant
wish
to
present
some
testimony
come
on
up.
Welcome.
U
The
right
titles-
yes,
thank
you
yeah
there
we
go.
Thank
you
good
evening,
Commissioners
for
the
record
Dave
jorgeson,
one
of
the
developers
of
the
development
team.
My
address
is
14254
West,
battenberg
Drive
in
Boise,
and
and
so
grateful
to
be
here
to
talk
about
spring
Rock.
Today,
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
presentation
and
highlight
a
few
things.
I
want
to
first
of
all,
thanks
staff
for
their
cover
details,
I'll
introduce
our
team
of
Chris
Finley
and
Pat
dunslogger.
U
Our
partners
with
the
development
community
and
they're
here
with
us
tonight,
also
on
a
canning,
a
long
range
planner
and
just
done
an
outstanding
job
of
helping
us
and
craft
a
lot
of
the
details
of
our
of
our
plan
and
so
she's
also
with
us
here
tonight,
I'll
go
over
a
site,
overview
application,
summary
details
and
staff
report,
so
this
site,
as
staff
has
identified
and
first
of
all,
I
agree
with
everything.
Steph
has
said
they
did
a
great
job
of
covering
a
lot
of
details.
U
I'll
go
through
quickly
with
some
of
my
things,
so
we
can
make
sure
we're
not
duplicating
too
much
here.
The
site
is
approximately
762
acres
in
size.
It's
located.
As
mentioned
south
of
Boise
and
east
of
Canada.
You
can
see
the
the
orange
little
area,
there's
Jason
to
Falcon
Crest,
which
is
kind
of
unique
and
adjacent
to
the
existing
development.
That's
under
construction,
Now,
The,
Valor
subdivision
around
Falcon,
Crest,
Golf
Course,
that's
close
to
current
and
future
employment,
centers
The
Meta
facilities
just
a
couple
miles
away.
U
Some
quick
highlights
of
existing
features.
Look
at
this
map.
You
can
see
a
few
things.
First
of
all,
the
red
areas
are
some
steeper
slopes
on
the
site
which
we're
taking
those
into
consideration.
The
bright
orange
that's
running
diagonally
through
the
property
is
the
Williams
gas
line
which
needs
to
be
considered
also
running
East-West
or
some
gray
lines.
U
Those
are
idle
power
transmission
lines,
we're
also
considering
the
big
blue
swath
area
is
the
flood
plain
at
least
as
currently
defined
by
FEMA,
and
we
have
an
approved
clomar
with
FEMA
allows
us
to
re-chanalyze
this,
because
really,
instead
of
having
a
big,
wide
flat,
skinny
little
floodplain
area,
we'll
re-channelize
it
and
running
against
the
gas
line,
I
have
a
nice
little
outside
their
easement,
but
a
nice
amenity
for
the
community.
So
long
Greenbelt
has
been
described
by
staff
to
enhance
the
community
in
the
area.
U
As
staff
had
mentioned,
there
are
two
significantly
different
steps
in
the
application
process.
First,
is
this
one
we're
talking
about
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
map
and
text
Amendment
with
the
spring
Rock
sub-area
plan,
and
then,
secondly,
will
be
the
implementation
plan
on
primary
flat,
which
will
follow?
We
do
have
quite
a
few
details
and
happy
to
answer
the
ones
that
we
can't
answer,
as
many
of
which
is,
if
we
can't
answer
we'll,
certainly
bring
forward
to
you
later.
U
But
a
lot
of
these
things
been
have
been
thought
through
and
looking
forward
to
that
next
step.
So
staff
had
mentioned
a
whole
lot
of
Studies.
Have
been
prepared,
this
is
the
list
of
them.
We've
talked
review
the
population,
the
school
facilities,
Transportation,
a
full
traffic
impact
study,
was
studied
and
approved
by
achd
and
third-party
reviewers.
There
were
17
I
believe
intersections
that
were
studied,
plus
lots
of
Lane
miles
in
between
I,
don't
know
if
I've
seen
a
bigger
one
in
my
career
of
over
25
years,
development
I'll
just
say
it
that
way.
U
It's
a
very
thorough
study
and
reviewed
by
third
party
consultants
and
by
your
own
third
party
consultant
acknowledging
completeness,
and
so
we
appreciate
that
more
details
to
come
when
we
go
through
the
process
with
achd
too,
but
again,
just
a
full
acknowledgment
of
all
the
work
and
Studies
have
been
done.
We
looked
at
Economic
Development
land
use,
natural
resources
and
Wildlife
plant
studies,
hazardous
areas,
Urban
public
facilities,
Recreation
housing,
community
design
and
site
analysis
and
historical
archaeological.
U
Well
with
that,
what
comes
of
all
that
is
goals
and
policies
in
each
of
these
areas,
which
what
creates
the
sub-area
plan
for
the
planned
community?
So
I'm
going
to
highlight
just
a
few
of
these
topics:
there's
Community
land
uses,
Community
connections,
coordinated
growth,
sustainable
practices
and
resiliency
and,
lastly,
compliance
with
state
code.
U
So
the
first
chapter,
Community
land
uses
we'd
cover
land
use,
sorry,
natural
features
and
demographics,
existing
infrastructure
and
proposed
land
uses
in
a
future
land
use
map
all
which
will
have
goals,
policies
and
implementation
strategies
we'll
have
a
mix
of
residential
housing,
commercial
and
recreational
uses,
a
variety
of
housing
types,
Central,
Urban,
Village
and
Community
Center
all
to
enhance
and
ends
be
self-sustaining.
That
area
this
is
a
little
closer
view
of
the
land.
Use
map
has
been
discussed,
as
shown
by
staff.
A
variety
of
colors
and
here
shows
a
variety
of
housing
types.
U
The
darker
red
color
shows
the
neighborhood
commercial,
where
we
have
basically
supporting
commercially
a
little
bit
of
office,
maybe
a
a
dock
of
the
box,
maybe
a
bank,
certainly
some
sandwich
shops,
those
type
of
uses
that
would
be
supportive
of
the
housing
in
that
area.
You
can
see
the
two
School
sites
has
been
requested
and
by
the
schools,
districts
and
we're
proposing
here
and
all
the
Open
Spaces.
U
Chapter
three
is
a
big
section
which
is
important.
We
talk
about
not
only
utilities
of
gas
power,
phone
cable,
so
forth,
but
we
have
two
school
districts
we're
working
with
again
kuna
School
District
on
the
West
and
West
data
is
about
three-fourths
of
the
property
on
the
East
lots
of
coordination
with
the
Ada
County
Highway
District,
the
Ada
County
development
services,
your
staff
here
in
other
departments.
U
What's
always
important,
is
working
closely
with
Emergency
Services,
the
police,
fire
and
Ada
County
paramedics,
which
we've
already
had
a
lot
of
good
discussion
with
them
and
which
is
in
your
in
your
report
in
the
in
the
in
the
packet
for
you,
goals,
policies
and
implementation
strategies
in
this
area
help
ensure
that
growth
pays
for
itself.
We
will
have
lots
of
on-site
and
off-site
improvements
paid
for
by
this
development.
As
mentioned
we'll
be
paying
for
a
fire
station,
they
won't
just
serve
this
area.
U
It'll
enhance
and
improve
the
service
and
response
times
for
the
surrounding
area
too,
including
the
Falcon
Crest
Valor
area.
By
the
way,
with
our
help,
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
it
built
nearly
as
quickly
and
so
we're
really
trying
to
re
realize
and
embrace
the
partnership
with
all
of
our
agencies
in
that
area.
U
In
the
community
chapter
4,
sustainable
practices
and
resiliency
talk
about
affordable
housing,
as
mentioned
by
the
staff
here,
we'll
have
a
variety
of
housing
types
for
rent
for
sale,
a
variety
of
housing
sizes
to
try
to
help
meet
all
all
types
of
needs
and
that
are
needed
in
our
community.
Today,
it's
not
just
for
today,
but
also
for
thinking
the
community
in
the
future.
We'll
have
Broadband
high-tech
Services,
we'll
help
encourage
trip
capture
with
the
commercialists
in
the
area.
U
Even
electric
vehicles
charging
stations
will
be
contemplated
and
built
in
this
area
to
because
we
know,
there's
a
demand
for
in
the
future,
we'll
be
building
a
sewer
treatment
facility
at
Arnold
expense
and
providing
pressure,
irrigation
and
water,
reuse
and
conservation.
In
the
area
again
calls
goals,
policies
and
implementation
strategies
for
each
of
these
topics
are
covered
in
the
sub-area
plan.
U
Lastly,
in
chapter
five,
it
references
and
cost
references
with
state
code
to
ensure
compliance
there.
So
in
your
code
you
reference
a
lot
of
requirements.
A
lot
of
Standards
need
to
be
met
with
public
facilities,
and
these
are
all
the
topics,
the
areas
Transportation
trails
and
Pathways
utilities,
electric
cable
phone
and
so
forth.
Water
again,
as
mentioned,
we
are
in
violia's
water
service
area
and
have
been
long
before.
U
I
was
even
involved
with
this
property,
we're
using
existing
water
rights
and
existing
Wells
we're
not
drilling
any
new
wells
and
that's
for
the
potable
water,
the
drinking
water
for
the
homes.
The
water
then
comes
to
the
homes,
comes
to
the
to
the
water
treatment
facility
and
then
discharges
to
a
fishing
pond
or
a
slash
irrigation
Pond
will
be
using
on
site
plus.
U
We
have
irrigation
water,
existing
Wells
for
the
site
that
have
already
been
used
for
the
last
many
many
years
to
irrigate
the
property,
both
on
the
upper
levels
and
the
lower
level,
and
so
we
actually
think
we'll
have
extra
water,
and
so
our
plan
is
to
recharge
the
aquifer
with
our
extra
water
more
details
to
come.
But
that
is
part
of
the
implementation
phase.
We
have
a
letter
if
you
need
me
to
show
it
to
you
tonight,
but
it's
been
part
of
it's
in
the
packet
and
there's
more
to
come
with.
With
response
to
this.
U
Now,
as
you
go
through
the
process,
I'll
just
cover
this
real
quickly.
We
had
two
scoping
meetings
with
all
the
surrounding
agencies,
both
here
at
the
County,
as
well
as
all
the
service
providers
as
well
as
traffic
agencies,
and
then
also
we
had
a
couple
of
large
group
meetings
on
site
with
the
surrounding
neighbors,
as
well
as
several
one-on-one
meetings
with
neighbors
too
in
discussions.
U
In
summary,
the
discussions
were
support
neutral
and
some
opposition,
as
staff
has
mentioned
here
tonight.
We
really
appreciate
the
comments
of
support
with
regarding
their
appreciation
for
our
vision,
the
mix
of
Housing
and
the
commercial.
The
variety
of
homes
that
we'll
be
providing
the
amenities,
as
well
as
the
the
growth
paying
for
itself.
U
There
were
some
comments
or
concerns
regarding
the
sewer
water
traffic
in
schools,
and
we
believe,
we've
already
addressed
Beyond,
what's
required
for
the
just
the
comp
plan,
changes
and-
and
this
has
been
addressed
in
the
in
the
written
report
for
the
documents
here
and
I'll,
happily
answer
any
other
questions
you
might
have
too
City
Boise
did
write
a
letter
of
opposition
or,
or
has
some
questions
to
us.
We
think
they
misunderstood.
Some
of
the
facts.
I
did
have
some
conversations
with
the
author
of
the
letter.
U
After
the
fact,
this
is
not
prime
Farmland,
as
mentioned
there's
a
lot
of
flood
plain
area
in
the
middle.
It's
not
easily
farmable,
it's
been
pasture
ground,
not
farmed
for
a
hundred
years
for
a
long
period
of
time,
so
that
it's
not
prime
Farm
ground.
Likewise,
other
service
has
been
addressed
in
the
staff
report.
We
really
appreciate.
U
We
didn't
ask
for
cdpuna
to
write
a
letter
of
support,
but
they
provided
it
and
we
appreciate
they're
acknowledging
our
our
compliment
and
and
the
balanced
nature
of
working
with
and
having
development
adjacent
to
the
Falcon
Crest
development
too.
So
we
really
appreciate
all
the
partner
agencies
and
their
their
letters
of
of
support
and
identifying
the
issues
they
want
to
make
sure
we
address
as
we
move
forward.
We
appreciate
the
achd
native
counties
comments,
their
third
party
reviews.
There
was
one
comment:
I'll
just
highlight
this
at
the
planning.
U
If
the
planning
is
only
commission,
they
recognize
that
you
don't
get
all
the
improvements
you
want.
You
don't
get
all
the
houses
at
once.
It
comes
through
a
phase
process,
and
so
the
development
and
the
mitigation
is
achieved
both
through
the
phasing
as
a
move
forward.
The
commission
agreed
with
all
the
findings
as
identified
in
your
report
tonight,
and
we
agree
with
all
of
them.
They
Rec
they
recommend
approval
unanimously,
and
we
appreciate
their
decision
too.
In
conclusion,
we
work
closely
with
the
staff.
U
We
really
appreciate
all
the
the
expertise
here
and
and
their
enforcing
of
the
of
the
code
requirements.
We
acknowledge
all
the
third
party
reviews
and
and
the
letters
of
of
compliance
have
been
issued
in
the
report.
We
do
meet
all
the
counties
codes
as
ordinances.
This
will
be
a
quality
development
of
which
I
will
be
very
proud
of
something
I've
been
working
really
hard
on
to
have
something
hard
quality
development
that'll
be
something
we're
proud
of
not
only
now,
but
many
years
to
come.
U
It'll
help
reach
some
of
the
needs
of
affordable
housing
that
is
not
being
met
today,
but
it's
not
just
affordable
housing
project.
It's
a
whole
lot
of
variety
of
housing
that
will
be
available
for
people
to
move
up
and
down
as
you
age
throughout
the
community,
and
there
will
be
an
implementation
phase
to
follow
with
greater
detail.
But
in
summary,
we
really
agree
with
all
the
reports
and
findings
and
requests
of
your
approval.
Tonight
and
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
All.
C
Any
questions
I
I
have
a
couple
of
questions,
go
ahead,
please
and
then
just
clarifications
and
as
I
as
I.
That's
why
I
wanted
to
clarify
with
staff.
This
is
a
comp
plan.
It's
not
all
the
details,
but
some
of
my
questions
relate
to
how
you
envision
doing
some
of
the
things
that
you're
doing
and
obviously
those
are
going
to
be
fleshed
out
in
phase
two
and
all
the
other
things
you're
doing,
but
obviously
I
guess.
First,
first
of
all,
Ada
County
has
a
some
planned
communities
that
have
been
very
positive.
C
What
we've
done
and
and
I
can
see
that
you've
learned
from
some
of
the
stuff
that
they've
learned
as
as
they've
developed,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
appreciate
you
your
forward
thinking,
because
this
is
what
it's
all
about,
is
learning
from
the
past
and
then
working
for
the
future.
So
one
of
in
terms
of
the
violi
water,
because
violia
has
the
wells,
as
you
said
already,
existing
Wells
is
your.
C
Is
your
vision
in
dealing
with
vision
with
violia
and
working
with
them
as
you've
developed
this
whole
thought
process
monitoring
one
the
wells
that
exist,
because
that's
what
we're
working
with
right
now
is
well,
it's
going
dry
and
developing
water
plans
for
the
entire
Treasure
Valley,
so
some
kind
of
a
monitoring
plan
that
you
would
have
with
violia
won
the
existing
Wells
that
are
there.
C
We
have
an
aqua
first
study
that
was
just
released
by
the
Department
of
Water
Resources
working
with
them.
This
back
to
your
your
idea
and
recharge,
which
I
think
is
an
integral
part
of
our
water
consideration
for
the
for
the
Treasure
Valley
as
well
in
an
Ada
County,
and
you
said
you're
going
to
do
recharges.
So
are
you
working
with
violi
in
that
regard,
so
that
you'll
have
monitoring
recharge
all
of
those
kinds
of
component
parts
as
part
of
your
future
presentation
does
Mr.
U
Chairman
and
commissioner
Daley,
the
answer
is
yes
again:
I'll,
maybe
kind
of
highlight
a
couple
things
with
violia.
First,
as
I
understand,
there
are
nine
existing
Wells
part
of
their
Network.
There
will
be
servicing
our
area
because
they
have
a
large
Network
already
and
it's
in
their
planned
area.
They
have.
This
they've
already
been
planning
to
serve
water
for
this
area.
The
water
rights
exist
there's
not
like
an
acquisition
of
new
water
rights.
First
of
all.
U
As
far
as
the
monitoring
I
guess,
the
short
answer
is
to
that
is
probably
two
parts.
One
is
a
forecast,
but
then,
secondly,
is
probably
monitoring
and
so
that'll
be
something
we'll
rely
on
them
to
provide
they're
the
water
experts
as
long
as
as
long
along
with
the
SPF
HDR
water
company
that
we've
been
working
with
as
a
third
party
water
right
consultant
to
try
to
make
sure
we're
trying
to
be
positive
and
not
another
drain
on
the
system.
U
If
you
will
violia
has
acknowledged
it's
not
on
us,
but
on
the
whole
Community
to
your
point
as
there's
less
Farm
ground,
there's
less
agricultural
water
seeping
into
the
groundwater
and
and
that's
not
a
comment
on
Spring
Rock.
That's
a
comment
on
the
Treasure
Valley,
and
so
we
think
the
right
thing
for
us
to
do
is
not
just
to
send
the
water
into
a
ditch,
but
rather
to
recharge
the
aquifer.
C
Then
the
same
thing
with
Transportation
fire,
all
of
the
other
things
that
you've
talked
about
that
the
presentation
as
well,
because
Ada
County
Highway
District.
The
timing
is
critically
important,
whether
it's
the
fire
station,
that's
on
Cloverdale,
but
the
connectability
to
to
Spring
rock
is
critically
important
and
how.
U
We
have
an
agreement
with
fire
department,
we're
already
there
in
that
detail.
To
answer
your
question
with
the
fire
department:
it's
pending
this
decision
tonight
and
we're
moving
forward.
There's
several
steps
along
the
way
staff
has
identified.
There's
two
parts:
there's
the
capital
Improvement
of
the
fire
station,
but
they're
also
you
got
to
fill
it
with
firefighters
and
and
have
operational
costs
covered
and
we've
all
we've
addressed
both
their
needs.
So
we
appreciate
that
collaboration.
U
When
you
see
the
numbers,
if
you
haven't
seen
them
in
the
report,
it's
one
of,
if
not
the
biggest
contribution
I've
seen
by
any
development
community,
and
that's
because
we're
trying
to
do
what
we
think
is
right
thing
in
the
area
and
and
so
we've
worked
with
them,
they've
told
us
what
the
need
is
and
so
we're
we're
doing
that.
Likewise,
there
was
an
Ask
between
the
state
of
County
sheriff
and
kuna
fire
to.
Maybe
we
can
work
together.
U
As
you
may
know,
the
the
the
Ada
County
Sheriff
here
came
from
the
city
of
eagle
and
they
have
a
joint
facility
there
with
with
regard
to
some
of
the
emergency
services,
and
that
model
is
what
we're
collaborating
or
following
to
to
implement
in
this
area.
Here
too,
and
likewise,
data
County
paramedics
appreciates
that
that
consideration
so
we're
working
together
with
all
the
emergency
services
to
do
the
capital
costs,
as
well
as
the
operational
expenses
until
our
tax
basis
is
sufficient
to
to
meet
those
needs
on
an
ongoing
basis.
U
U
C
D
U
Mr
chairman,
commissioner
Davidson
again
we
have
two
school
districts,
so
the
one
we've
been
having
most
discussions
with
are
kuna
School
District
they've
been
very
proactive
in
the
conversations
with
us.
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
which
ones
I
apologize,
but
there's
an
acknowledgment
there'll
be
some
busing
on
the
front
end
and
then
once
the
school
gets
built
it
actually,
the
school
for
Kino,
School
District
will
handle
more
than
the
capacity
of
kids
in
that
section
of
spring
Rock,
and
so
it
won't
just
serve
spring.
U
Rock
it'll
serve
other
subdivisions
in
the
area
and
they'll
actually
then
probably
bust.
Some
kids
back
our
Direction,
so
we're
doing
more
than
our
first
share
than
just
having
a
school
for
our
area,
but
greater
than
West
data
I
know,
there's
and
obviously
there'll
be
a
need
for
the
school
over
there.
There
is
not
a
close
one
for
West
data
that
I'm
aware
of
the
Locale
subdivision.
U
That
was
talked
about
it's
a
little
further
away,
but
West
state
has
been
talking
about
and
maybe
needing
a
high
school
or
middle
schools
and
they're
they're
working
with
a
plan
for
that
area.
We
recognize
that's
not
our
first
phases,
that's
that's
getting
out
further
and
so
we'll
be
having
them
tell
us
what
what
the
needs
will
be.
Having
said
that,
we
also
know
we've
had
Charter
Schools
come
to
us
already
and
we've
said
hey:
let's,
let's
do
what
we
can
and
so,
as
we
move
forward
those
next
implementation
phases.
U
These
are
the
ones
we
offered
for
public
schools
districts
and
they
said.
Thank
you
that
sufficient,
but
we
also
know
that
the
charter
school
needs
are
out
there
too,
we're
familiar
with
some
other
plant
communities
a
little
further
out
than
this
one
that
had
some
discussions
about,
did
it
work
or
not,
for
public
schools
and
actually
charter
school
became
a
better
solution,
and
so
we're
looking
forward
to
having
more
detailed
answer
for
you.
U
D
U
Chairman
commissioner
Davidson,
the
answer
is:
maybe
not
in
our
Western
half
that's
where
we
have
some
higher
density,
some
Urban
needs
and
still
spreading
it
out
would
be
a
little
less
interesting,
but
on
the
eastern
half
the
answer
is
possibly
one
thing:
I've
learned
is
amenity
several
things.
One
amenities
are
very
attractive
in
a
community.
You
need
to
have
amenities
that
support
the
homeowners
and
complement
the
the
the
community
needs,
something
that
was
never
talked
about
10
years
ago,
even
five
years
ago,
were
pickleball
courts.
U
D
All
right
all
right,
I
do
have
a
question
for
staff.
Could
you
and
this
more
for
the
public
than
anything
but
kind
of
just
quickly
summarize
our
or
process,
and
that
what
our
third-party
plan
Community
consultant
does.
T
Commissioner,
Davidson
yeah,
just
maybe
the
process
real
briefly,
the
applicant,
was-
is
required
to
hold
the
scoping
sessions
with
service
providers.
Transportation
agencies,
the
public
Outreach
meetings,
two
meetings
with
all
the
residents
within
a
mile
of
the
site,
and
then
they
were
also,
as
the
applicant
mentioned,
required
to
submit
numerous
studies,
detailed
studies
and
reports
why
the
staff
reports
over
I
think
1100
pages
long.
T
Most
of
that's
all
those
the
studies
that
were
required
and
we
did
hire
an
outside
consultant
Jacobs
Engineering
to
to
help
review
some
of
the
more
technical
documents
for
us
just
to
make
sure
we've
done
that
with
past
plant
communities.
So
I
did
that
again
and
they
had
some
feedback
and
the
applicant
responded
provided
the
information
they'd
requested
and
and
then
some
of
that
information
we
noted
would
be
provided
in
phase
two.
So
some
of
those
the
more
detailed
Parts
but
yeah
we've
stat
reviewed
it.
We've
had
a
consultant
review
it.
T
A
Okay,
anything
else.
Okay,
I'll
get
a
couple
questions
for
you.
Congratulations
on
on
your
long
journey.
I
know
it's
been
a
while
for
you
to
get
here
to
get
in
front
of
this.
The
front
of
this
board
I
did
have
you
mentioned
in
your
presentation
that
you
had
an
abundance
supply
of
water?
In
fact,
you
thought
you
thought
you
might
have
an
excessive
water
and
and
or
a
building
in
a
recharge
system.
Now
you're
going
to
do
the
recharge.
U
U
We'll
have
some
fish
in
there
as
well,
but
adjacent
to
it
is
where
we'll
plan
to
have
a
discharge
directly
at
that
location,
we'll
work
with
the
engineers
on
the
specific
how
to
do
it.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
pond
stays
full.
We
don't
want
to
lose
all
of
our
water,
so
we'll
take
over
water.
First
make
sure
we
have
adequate
water
for
irrigation,
for
our
needs:
the
excess
water.
U
In
essence,
if
you
want
to
think
of
like
a
table,
it'll
spill
over
the
top
of
the
table
into
a
vault,
if
you
will-
and
that
goes
down
into
a
into
the
ground,
I
can
tell
you
this
there's
a
lot
of
gravels
in
the
area
we've
from
our
initial
excavation
soils,
excavation
and
soils
tests.
If
you
know
the
area
at
all,
there
are
some
sand
and
gravel
pits
in
the
area
too,
and
so
we
know
that
the
water
should
perk
pretty
easily.
A
U
A
All
right
good
now,
the
other
thing
is
you
you
mentioned,
and
it's
good
you've
dedicated
a
couple
of
sites,
I
see
there
there
in
purple
for
schools
and
of
course
we
won't
get
into
that
until
you
get
to
your
to
your
development
agreements,
but
I
would
simply
suggest
that
when
you
get
into
those
development
agreements
with
the
schools,
you
keep
that
open,
because.
A
U
U
Exactly
and
we've
been
paying
attention
to
the
comments
made
earlier,
we'll
we
we
do
want
to
have
that
flexibility,
as
I
mentioned
to
prayer.
Testimony
Q
has
been
a
little
more
proactive,
West
State
have
recognizes.
Maybe
the
need
isn't
different,
but
but
it
is
different.
We
have
kids,
but
how
do
they
serve
them
and
it
might
be
in
a
different
way.
So,
where
we'll
have
that
flexibility,
as
into
our
development
agreement,
I
appreciate
your
suggestion.
A
Yeah
I
just
suggest
that
you
keep
that
open
you
when
we
work
on
the
development
agreements
that
that
is
fine
to
dedicate
to
some
property
to
for
the
schools,
but
it's
difficult
if
you
tie
it
to
a
particular
charter
school
or
to
a
particular
other
public
schools,
so
keep
it
open
to
where
to
where
it
fits
the
needs
of
your
community
rather
than
needs
of
the
school
district.
Thank.
A
All
right,
we
have
some
some
additional
people
that
want
to
comment
on.
This
is
Landon
Brown
here.
A
W
Sure
9000
West
kuna
Road
Kuna
on
the
two
existing
Wells
on
that
property.
Are
they
active
now.
A
W
W
So
it's
a
big
issue,
if
they're
not
currently
using
them
for
irrigation,
and
then
they
also
said
last
time
that
Five
Mile
goes
through
to
the
10
Mile
Creek
Road,
and
it
does
not.
W
It
stops
at
the
canal,
so
it
would
have
to
be
brought
through
and
I
guess.
I
was
glad
to
hear
that
you're,
updating
the
traffic
studies
and
we
just
don't
see
that
it's
going
to
complement
anything
in
the
area.
W
W
At
the
end
of
the
meeting
you
want
to
know
if
the
wells
are
active,
if
they're
actively
using
them
for
irrigation,
because
the
water,
the
land,
has
not
been
irrigated
in
the
past
few
years
so
and
I
want
to
know
who
will
pay
for
our
well
if
it
goes
dry
again
and
I'm
sure
our
neighbors
would
like
the
same,
because
we
have
neighbors
just
over
the
hill
from
us
that
theirs
went
dry
as
well.
So,
okay.
A
Well,
as
you
as
you
might
be
aware,
now,
this
is
not
a
final
application.
This
is
just
sort
of
the
beginning
of
the
first
phase
of
the
process.
Yeah.
A
I
can
imagine
that
now
you're
the
well
because
we've
had
probably
14
or
15
Wells
go
dry,
not
just
in
that
area,
but
around
there.
Well.
W
So
they
told
us
that
at
the
corner
of
Five,
Mile
and
Amity
Road
that
they
currently
have
about
they're
in
the
Ada
County
area
of
impact
for
Wells-
and
they
have
about
50
Wells
that
are
gone,
have
gone
dry
or
are
gone
dry
there
and
they
have
an
18-month
waiting
list.
Because
Ada
County
requires
that
they
drill
900
feet.
A
Well,
that's
the
it's
our
understanding
that
there
are
that
there
are
some
some
dry
welds
and
that
we're
actually
helping
with
Suez
to
extend
their
water
line
not
out
that
far
but
four
ways
to
accommodate
that.
But
anyway,
water
is
important
as
you
as
you
may
have
noticed
from
this
board.
Yes,.
C
It
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
while
she's
here
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
what
commissioner
Davidson
said.
That's
part
of
your
question
just
like
that's.
Why
I
asked
some
of
the
questions
I
ask
as
well,
so
that
these
are
the
issues
that
will
at
some
point
in
time
have
to
be
answered
and,
and
that's
why
they
need
to
know
that,
and
we
appreciate
you
asking.
A
These
questions,
the
question
of
water
and
the
question
on
on
traffic,
because
they'll
have
to
other
other
traffic
studies
and
so
forth
and
have
to
make
it
make
more
more
definitive
plan.
I
D
Ahead
and
just
you
know
further
note
for
the
community,
we
certainly
encourage
people
who
are
having
issues
with
their
Wells
going
dry
to
report
that
to
the
county.
If
you
live
in
unincorporated
Ada
County,
because
that's
an
ongoing
issue
and
we're
working
on
that
not
with
regard
to
any
particular
project,
but
just
in
general,
we
want
to
know
the
status
of
Wells,
an
unincorporated
Ada
County,
to
see,
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
to
address
it.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
right,
there's
Cheryl
Gibbons.
X
Hi
I'm
really
new
to
all
of
this,
so
please
bear
with
me:
okay,
actually
I'm
kind
of
stupid,
but
anyway
I'm
along
with
Kim
I,
oppose
I,
don't
oppose
the
community.
X
What
I
would
like
to
know
is:
where
can
they
guarantee
that
those
2775
homes
water
is
going
to
not
be
taken
from
those
Wells
they're
in
a
canyon
and
I'm
one
of
Kim's
Neighbors?
My
husband
is
a
wheat
farmer.
We
have
belted
galloways,
we
are
great
lands
to
we
are.
We
are
stewards
of
the
land
we
take
care
of
it.
X
X
X
X
They
had
to
do
another
one.
They
still
have
problems
with
it
and
as
far
as
Falcon
Crest
and
The,
Valor
and
stuff
they
went
to
Cuna
in
Cuna
is
piping
them
in
the
water
in
the
septic.
X
Why
can't
that
be
done?
Use
the
water
for
what
it
the
aquifer
for
what
it
is
supposed
to
be
for
and
I'm,
not
speaking,
very
well.
I
came
here
tonight
to
find
out
exactly
what
I
needed
to
do.
How
I
needed
to
do
it
and
I've
gotten
a
pretty
good
picture,
and
if
you
could
just
ask
them,
can
they
guarantee
that
the
water
is
not
going
to
come
from
that
aquifer
to
water
those
homes,
24
7.,
365
days
a
a
year.
C
Just
a
comment
that,
as
you
probably
know,
aquifers
or
not
just
a
ball
down
there
underneath
the
ground,
they
vary,
as
you
well
pointed
out,
one
of
your
neighbors
next
to
each
other,
can
can
drill
Wells
and
not
one
get
water
and
one
not
get
water.
That's
part
of
what
the
chairman
was
talking
about.
What
Ada
County
is
trying
to
do
is
create
a
body
of
information
that
will
help
arm.
Water
Resources
in
the
valley
come
up
with
data
so
that
we
can
know
one
where
the
aquifers
are.
C
X
C
A
You
can
you
can
pose
a
question
as
part
of
your
testimony,
but.
A
We're
not
using
accepting
system
they're,
building
they're
built
they're
building
a
community
sewer
treatment
plant.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
All
right,
I
guess
Christy
inselman
is
on
is
online
listening.
If
she
wants
to
speak.
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Steve
inch.
I
am
a
30-year
Boise
resident
and
I
currently
reside
at
6697
South
redshine
Way
in
the
Hazelwood
subdivision,
which
is
very
close
to
this.
This
development
I
just
want
to
put
a
little
provide
a
little
perspective.
Harris,
Ranch
and
I
was
in
southeast
for
29
years.
Harris
Ranch
is
about
1300
Acres.
This
is
literally
half
of
that.
Y
Y
So,
like
everyone
else,
it's
it's
not
without
its
challenges,
but
the
fact
the
matter
is
you're
talking
about
a
much
less
density
than
you
have
at
Harris,
Ranch
and
Park
Center.
So
if
you
look
at
kind
of
that
comparison
to
some
degree,
it's
not
as
expansive
and
I
think
it's
much
more
appropriately.
The
division
they
have
is
much
more
appropriate
for
for
the
land
use
and
the
mixed
Community
uses
that
they
put
forth.
So
that
was
my
comment.
A
Y
A
Right,
okay
is
there,
anyone
else
wish
to
speak
on
this.
A
T
Mr,
chair,
Commissioners,
I
will
add,
the
applicant's
presentation
is
exhibit
90.
and
that's
all
I
have
to
add
Mr.
U
Chairman
and
Commissioners
yes,
I
did
I
was
just
reading,
make
sure
I
don't
miss
any
notes
Here.
So
thanks
for
the
comments,
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
questions
raised.
First
of
all,
Kim
Briggs
I
wrote
down
that
she
asked
about
the
existing
Wells,
the
two
Wells
they
have
been
operating,
been
told
since
the
60s
I,
don't
I
can't
say
this
every
year,
but
I
know
every
year
for
the
last
five
years
that
I've
been
watching
this
property.
Those
both
as
well
has
been
running.
They
are
used
to
flood
irrigate.
U
The
properties,
one
is
down
low,
it's
actually
at
the
far
East
stand
at
Cole
Road
and
it
flood
irrigates,
the
entire
Western,
the
valley,
if
you
will
there's
another
Well
up
on
top
that
serves
and
actually
the
Cloverdale
Nursery
putting
sod
farm.
It's
a
sod
for
the
next
couple
years
or
sought
up
on
top
and
that's
also
been
used
for
the
last
I.
Don't
know
how
many
years
long
time,
and
so
the
short
answer
is
yes:
we've
been
using
those
Wells
they've
been
in
place
for
a
long
period
of
time.
U
U
When
you
look
at
any
Google
Map
it
does,
and
even
if
you
think
it
doesn't
we'll,
be
building
a
new
five
mile
road,
all
the
way
to
the
South
part
of
our
property
and
sweeping
to
the
West
10
Mile
Creek
Road,
with
a
new
roundabout,
and
so
all
those
improvements
will
be
paid
for
by
us.
It'll
go
to
our
South
Boundary
of
the
property
and
tie
into
the
Falcon
Crest
Valor
side
division
will
then
take
the
rest
of
five
mile
down
to
kuna
Road,
as
required
by
achd.
U
The
last
comment
was
about
valor's
Wells,
their
water
wells.
We
actually
watched
that
development
go
through
a
long,
extensive
process
at
their
public
hearings
at
Kuna.
They
were
approved
to
have
Cuna,
City
drill,
new
wells
and
they
later
learned
that
the
quality
of
the
water
was
insufficient,
and
so
they
then
chose
to
pipe
the
water
from
several
miles
to
the
east.
To
the
West,
sorry
from
the
West
to
the
east
to
serve
that
area.
Having
said
that,
we
are
similar.
We
are
not
drilling
new
wells
in
the
area.
U
Very
familiar
with
the
concerns
about
water
and
and
Wells,
failing
again
we're
not
drilling
new
wells.
U
Suez
violia
now
has
had
water
rights
and
has
planned
to
serve
this
area
for
a
very,
very
long
time
and
we're
just
using
that
existing
infrastructure
to
serve
our
community.
There
was
no
one
question.
I
appreciate
appreciate
the
clarification
on
septic.
We
are
not
doing
a
septic
system.
We
will
have
a
community
sewer
treatment
facility
that
would
treat
all
the
effluent
and
contained
on
site
and
then
the
treated
water
will
be.
Our
plan
is
Class
A,
which
you
don't
have
many
of
those
is
actually
Class.
B
is
what
you
usually
see.
U
Our
plan
is
to
hope
to
actually
go
to
a
class
A
treatment
facility
which
will
improve
the
water
quality
as
any
gets
recharged
into
the
aquifer.
So
those
are
our
plans
again
more
details
to
come
in
the
implementation
phase.
Mr
chairman
and
Commissioners
I
think
I
answered
the
questions,
but
if
I
missed
any,
please
ask
me
some
more
questions,
because
we
we're
fully
prepared
to
answer
all
questions.
We
are
excited
about
this
development
and
I
look
forward
to
moving
forward.
Do
you
have
any
other
questions
for.
A
U
I
might
be
familiar
with
a
baseball
facility,
that's
not
far
away
just
west
of
us
and
we
will
also
have
30
acre
approximately
sized
Park
in
our
community.
We'll
have
ball
fields.
My
both
my
sons
played
flag
football
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
flag
football
and
other
type
of
uses
in
that
Park
area.
So
we
we
do
think
having
those
amenities
are
appropriate
and
and
it'll
help
serve
us
and
maybe
we'll
partner
with
the
guys
next
door
too.
Well,.
A
You
might
be,
you
might
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
that
the
county
is
going
to
build
a
pickleball
facility
too
I
believe
potentially
in
a
way
I'm,
not.
A
U
U
About
a
mile
south
of
us
half
mile
I,
don't
know
how
far
south
they
are
they're
from
our
South
border.
Again,
there's
a
ridge
and
it
drops
down
to
the
valley.
I-
should
know
this.
It's
about
as
80
foot
drop
in
a
change
in
elevation,
maybe
plus
or
minus
a
little
bit
from
from
the
ridge
down
down
to
the
Valley
area
in
the
valley.
U
Of
course,
that's
where
the
bulk
of
the
housing
is
and
that'd
be,
probably
a
mile
I'm
going
to
guess
from
those
homes
again
we're
not
drilling
wells
in
that
area
and
I,
don't
know
how
much
we
can
help
that
their
aquifer,
because
we
might
be
Downstream
from
them.
I,
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
do
a
plus
or
a
minus,
we'll
find
out
when
we
get
into
the
details,
but
we're
not
close
enough
to
recharge
I
use
the
analysis
of
a
straw.
U
D
Our
really
potential
for
them
to
tap
into
the
the
infrastructure.
You
know
we,
we
approved
an
RV
park
recently
and
they
had
off
the
the
developer
paid
to
extend
the
violia
water
line
to
the
park,
but
also
made
it
available.
If
the
you
know,
neighbors
wanted
to
tap
into
it
because
they
were
in
an
area
that
didn't
have
City
Water
yeah.
D
Is
that
any
any
kind
of
potential
for
any
infrastructure
on
this
development?
Yeah.
U
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Davidson
yeah,
absolutely
the
answer
that
is
yes,
water
lines
usually
run
in
the
streets
and
that's
what
five
mile
can
Surface
get
the
water
out
there
to
kuna
Road,
and
likewise
there
was
mentioned
by
staff
Maple
Grove.
We
can't
take
that
all
the
way
to
Cuna
ropes.
Our
property
doesn't
go
that
far,
but
it
would
tie
into
the
South
Boundary,
where
there'd
be
some
adjacent
property
owners
and
if
owners
can
work
together
or
that
road
extends
and
the
connects
that'd
be
a
second
connection
that
could
be
used.
U
What's
important,
though-
and
we
learned
this
in
the
in
the
process-
is
that
each
of
these
agencies,
whether
it's
city
of
kuna
or
a
private
agency
of
violia,
they
have
their
service
areas
with
Department
of
Water
Resources,
and
so
they
don't
overlap
without
getting
along
we'll
just
say
it
that
way,
and
so
I
don't
know
which
service
area
they're
in
we
can
help
refer
them
to
the
right
map
or
the
right
agency.
And
so
we
can't
cross
service
areas
to
answer
that
question.
But
can
we
make
it
available
yeah
through
the
roads?
It'll?
A
C
D
C
One
more
comment
enter:
that's
why
I
asked
the
question
as
far
as
the
aquifer
study
and
how,
how
alveoli,
how
you're
going
to
work
with
the
violia
to
do
those
because
aquares
as
we
as
we
know,
I
mean
it
could
be
a
little
tiny
ball.
It
could
be
like
fingers,
it
could
be
there's
any
number
of
and
it
could
be
flowing
in
and
flowing
out
instantaneously.
So
all
those
are
really
important
in
terms
of
what
they're
talking
about,
and
you
know
a
400
foot
well
right.
C
Next
to
a
quarter
mile
away,
I
mean
I
know
we
have
that
other
places
in
the
county,
where
there's
a
300
foot
well
400
in
just
less
than
a
quarter
of
a
mile
away.
They
have
a
50-foot
well
that
has
water.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
dynamics
that
we
don't
know,
but
we
need
to
know
yeah.
U
What
will
help
with
that?
But
again
our
the
wells,
we're
using
are,
they
might
be
four
miles
away
from
their
properties.
I
mean
they're,
the
ones
that
we're
using
so
the
code
of
depression
is
not
that
far
when
you
talk
to
the
water
experts,
but
we'll
have
those
answers
for
you
as
we
move
forward.
Thank.
A
You
well,
groundwater
is
really
complex.
It
is
and
there's
different
layers
of
different
layers.
In
fact,
not
a
lot
of
people
realize
that
the
the
Boise
River
the
amount
of
water
that
leaves
Lucky
Peak
by
the
time
it
goes
through.
The
community
and
irrigates
the
whole
valley
there's
more
water
dumping
into
the
Snake
River
because
of
the
groundwater.
I
mean
the
same
with
New
York,
Canal,
New,
York,
Canal
irrigates
a
lot
a
lot
of
property,
there's
more
water,
leaving
the
New
York
canal
and
goes
into
it
because.
A
And
and
it's
it's
really
complex
and
anyway,
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
we
are
really
really
concerned
about
that
and
we're
doing
all
we
can
to
do
augment
the
groundwater
and
the
under
aquifer
in
this
area.
Well,.
U
I
A
You
thank
you
very
much.
Thanks
again,
all
right
hearing,
no
more
discussion.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
on
application.
2020.
two
four:
seven,
six
CPA
Dash
PC
hearing
being
closed.
The
application
is
before
the
board
any
discussion.
D
Mr
chairman,
just
preliminarily
for
transparency
purposes,
I
have
to
disclose
that
I
do
know.
Mr,
jorgeson
personally
and
I.
Don't
believe
that
will
affect
my
ability
to
make
a
decision
in
this
case.
A
C
A
But,
but
that's
not
gonna,
that's
not
gonna
affect
our
at
least
my
decision,
but
I
do
believe
that
under
the
laws
of
supply
and
demand,
if
you
have
an
increased
Supply
and
not
a
large
demand,
prices
of
the
product
goes
down.
In
this
case.
It's
it's
homes
we
need.
We
need
to
have
a
better
supply
of
homes
in
this
area
in
this
neighborhood
in
this
in
this
community,
I
think
to
keep
the
price,
affordable
and
I
think
this.
This
will
contribute
to
that.
I
will
accept
the
motion.
D
Well
before
we
do
that,
just
I'll
make
a
last
comment:
go
ahead,
I
believe,
in
my
opinion,
commissioner
Daley
has
replaced
commissioner
Kenyon
as
the
resident
water
expert
on
the
board.
Certainly
an
expert
compared
to
me.
D
It's
not
my
strong
suit,
but
I
can
attest
that
he
has
a
lot
of
knowledge
and
concern
about
the
long-term
health
of
water
in
Ada,
County,
so
I
think
the
community
should
know
there
is
a
a
voice
on
the
board,
is
paying
very
close
attention
and
has
some
expertise
on
the
issue
and-
and
it
is
something
overall
we're
concerned
of
as
a
board,
not
just
in
this
particular
area,
but
Valley
Wide
and
we've
dealt
with
Wells
drying
up
in
in
other
parts
of
the
County
as
well
and
I
think
we
have
a
plan
to
deal
with
those,
but
as
we
move
forward
we're
looking,
obviously
for
more
comprehensive
and
long-term
planning
on
on
the
water
issue
again,
this
is
just
kind
of
a
preliminary
approval.
D
There'll
be
still
a
lot
more
opportunities
for
Community
input
on
this
project.
It's
obviously
a
very
long
schedule
to
get
approval
for
a
project
like
a
planned
community
in
Ada.
County,
a
lot
of
steps
have
to
be
taken,
and
this
is
again
still
the
initial
phases,
so
there
will
certainly
be
a
lot
of
community
input
again.
They've
met
all
the
requirements
under
our
development
code.
Our
staff
has
approved
this
application.
This
is
the
first
time
it's
coming
to
the
board
and
other
than
the
city
of
Boise.
D
C
Mr
chairman
I'll,
second,
that
motion
with
the
under
clear
again
reiteration
that
this
is
a
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
to
establish
a
process
for
consideration
of
this
development
and
again,
as
we've
all
said,
get
the
comments
from
the
public
on
what
we
do,
how
we
do
it.
We
want
that,
and
so
I
will.
Second,
the
motion
to
move
forward
with
this
process.
A
Okay,
the
motion's
been
made
and
with
the
clear
understanding
that,
in
the
clear
I
think
I'll
reiterate,
this
is
a
plan,
a
planned
Community,
comprehensive
plan
map
and
a
tax
amendment.
A
That's
what
this
is
tonight
and
this
will
go
through
round
two
if
you
will
and
and
then
it'll
be
back
before
our
planning
zoning
Commission
in
before
this
board
expect,
and
so
with
that
I
will
call
off
the
question
if
there's
any,
unless
there's
further
discussion,
Is
there
further
discussion,
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
signified
by
saying
aye
aye
all
right
motion
carries.
A
Thank
you
all
right.
We
have
another
one.
More
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
application:
20
22,
zero,
two
seven,
seven,
eight,
a
Valerie
teminay
and
Adam
Evan
we'll
get
a
staff
report.
First.
Z
Yep
all
right,
so
the
application
before
you
Commissioners
is
an
appeal
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commissioner's
approval
of
a
our
commission's
approval
of
a
conditional
use
and
master
site
plan
for
a
public
quasi-public
use
associated
with
a
renewable
natural
gas
injection
site
for
the
Northwest
pipeline.
Z
The
appellants
are
Adam
Evan,
Valerie,
Tim
and
others,
including
neighbors
in
the
area,
and
the
original
applicant
is
breitmark
De,
Groot,
RNG
LLC,
the
subject
property
is
a
309
Acre
Site,
located
near
the
intersection
of
West
kuna
Road
and
South
Pleasant
Valley
Road
in
the
Rural
Preservation
District
rural
residences
are
located
to
the
east
and
the
South.
The
closest
approximately
one
half
mile
away
in
this
area
over
here
to
the
north
and
west
are
rangeland
commercial
and
Industrial
uses,
and
the
site
for
the
facility
is
actually
highlighted
here
in
yellow.
Z
Depicted
here
is
the
proposed
injection
site,
which
will
take
up
approximately
three
acres
of
the
309
acre
subject:
property,
as
shown
on
the
previous
Slide.
The
facility
will
be
located
south
of
an
existing
facility
for
the
Northwest
pipeline,
approximately
110
feet
from
kunamora
Road,
and
so
just
to
Orange
you
to
the
site
in
the
app
you
can
do
the
same.
But
here
is
that
Northwest
pipeline
facility
here
is
the
proposed
bright,
Mark
degrute
RNG
facility.
Z
So
the
appellants,
as
mentioned
before,
Adam
Evan
Valerie
Tim
and
their
neighbors,
actually
asked
you
to
affirm
the
approval
but
add
a
number
of
conditions
to
the
project
that
they
think
would
be
fitting.
Those
are
generally
organized
into
four
themes:
the
first
being
site
access.
They
would
like
you
to
require
access
from
Pleasant
Valley
Road
versus
kunamora
Road,
as
it's
currently
proposed.
Z
The
second
is
to
mitigate
noise
and
in
doing
that,
they
would
like
to
limit
hours
of
operation
from
9am
to
5
p.m.
They
also
would
like
you
to
conduct
a
sound
study
to
determine
impacts
on
neighboring
properties
and
through
that
study,
identify
any
ways
to
mitigate
those
impacts.
Z
The
third
area
is
the
mitigation
of
light
or
light
pollution
from
the
facility.
They
would
like
you
to
require
a
lumen
study
for
the
facility
to
determine
if
there
are
impacts
on
the
neighboring
properties
and
again,
to
identify
ways
to
mitigate
those
impacts
and
then,
finally,
fire
safety
and
mitigation.
They
would
like
a
conference
review
of
the
project
from
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
again
regarding
fire
safety
and
mitigation
for
the
project.
So
those
are
the
appellants
requests
and
you'll
hear
more
of
that.
Z
As
you
hear
their
testimony,
the
original
applicant
did
provide
a
response
to
the
appellants
requests
along
the
same
themes.
They
would
like
you
to
First
affirm
the
PNC
approval
they
already
received
and
not
add
any
new
conditions
specific
to
the
conditions
requested
by
the
appellants.
They
would
like
you
to
uphold
achd's
approval
of
temporary
access
to
kinomora
road.
If
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
the
achd
review,
quinoa
Road
access
is
temporary.
Permanent
access
eventually
will
need
to
come
off
of
Pleasant
Valley
Road,
as
requested
by
the
appellants.
Z
However,
achd
is
using
a
trigger
of
additional
development
in
the
area
to
transition
that
access
point
from
kunamora
road
to
Pleasant,
Valley,
Road
and
again.
The
original
Apple
can
speak
this
a
bit
more,
but
some
major
considerations
for
that
is
the
kunamora
road
access
allows
about
110
foot
driveway,
whereas
the
Pleasant
Valley
Road
access
requires
about
a
3,
500
foot,
driveway,
so
significant
difference
in
how
the
driveway
is
constructed.
Regarding
noise
mitigation,
they
they
would
ask
that
you
not
restrict
hours
of
operation.
Z
The
distance
of
the
nearest
Residence,
as
previously
mentioned
by
staff,
is
about
a
half
mile
away
and
also
we
have
the
Ada
County
noise
ordinance
to
address
essentially
noises
that
are
disturbing
to
neighboring
properties,
particularly
after
hours
of
10
o'clock.
So,
based
on
that,
you
know
the
operation
itself,
which
they
have
identified
as
minimal
in
nature,
from
trucks
entering
the
site
and
the
actual
dispensing
gas
to
the
injection
facility.
The
proximity
to
a
neighbor,
which
is
about
2
500
feet
away
and
our
noise
ordinance.
Z
They
don't
think,
there's
a
need
to
add
additional
conditions
around
the
issue
with
noise
mitigation.
Again
you'll
hear
more
of
that,
both
from
both
sides
of
this
argument,
as
they
have
a
chance
to
testify
and
then
finally
or
not.
Finally,
they
also
would
request
that
you
don't
require
a
lumen
study
for
the
light
mitigation
for
the
project.
This
is
due
to
the
Limited
hours
of
operation
they
have
proposed
in
that
response
to
the
appellants
project.
Z
Basically
saying
the
last
truck
to
enter
the
site
will
be
about
seven
o'clock
at
night
and
due
to
the
fact
that
there
are
limited,
Vehicles
again
visiting
the
site,
they
can
again
go
into
greater
detail,
but
I
think
it
was
a
maximum
of
six
trucks
entering
and
exiting
throughout
the
day
and
I
think
that
might
actually
be
just
three
trucks
entering
wants
and
exiting
once
at
different
times
throughout
the
the
day,
and
also
their
choice
of
lighting
that
they're
going
to
use
for
the
facility
which
will
be
down
shielded,
which
is
something
that's
encouraged
by
Ada
County
code
anyways
to
again
not
allow
the
spill
out
of
light
on
adjacent
neighboring
properties.
Z
They
also
bring
up
the
fact
that
again
they're
about
a
half
mile
away
from
those
properties
to
the
east.
So
they
don't
see
the
need
for
this
study
and
then
finally,
the
fire
safety
plan.
They
ask
that
you
don't
require
that
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
and
looks
like
I
forgot
to
finish
my
statement
there
on
that
last
slide.
But
sorry,
previous
version
before
I
had
a
chance
to
really
blow
you
away
with
the
conclusion
of
that
one.
But
Bay,
basically,
that's
not
the
purview
of
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal.
Z
There
was
a
letter
provided
in
the
late
exhibit
packet
kind
of
to
that
extent,
and
what
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal
suggested
is
that
if
the
board
is
a
condition,
it
is
interested
in
seeing
more
along
these
lines
that
you
could
require
a
condition.
They
work
with
one
of
the
districts
that
essentially
through
the
joint
Mutual
response
agreement
that
occurs
in
areas
that
are
outside
of
districts.
Z
Any
of
those
districts
could
provide
details
as
to
what
they
would
want
to
see
on
the
property
and
they
also
could
choose
to
serve
the
property,
the
correctional
facilities
in
the
area
they're
outside
of
the
district
and
they
actually
have
contracted
with
a
district
in
the
area
to
say
in
the
event,
we
have
a
fire
you're
going
to
come,
take
care
of
us
because
we
have
this
agreement,
so
the
board
could
condition
something
like
that.
Z
Z
I
feel
like
in
this
situation,
either
way
you're
being
asked
to
affirm
the
pnz's
approval,
you're
just
going
to
either
add
new
conditions
or
not.
So
in
the
event
that
you
want
to
affirm
the
PNC's
approval,
it
would
basically
just
be
taking
forward
their
those
findings.
If
you
wanted
to
add
any
conditions
based
on
the
testimony
here
tonight,
you
know
we
would.
We
would
do
that
as
well.
Both
would
require
tabling
that
decision
to
a
later
date.
Z
Richard
and
I
just
spoke
prior
to
the
meeting,
and
it
sounds
like
April
26th
that
an
open
business
meeting
might
be
a
good
Target.
If
we
can
land
on
some
conditioned
language
that
you
like
or
if
you
just
want
to
move
forward
with
what
pnz
already
approved,
but
with
that
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
and
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
I'll
ask
a
couple:
were
these
conditions?
Are
these
objections
raised
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
here
in.
Z
Z
Z
C
Z
My
take
on
that
Brent
Danielson
was
our
planner,
who
represented
the
application
at
the
hearing,
but
as
his
manager
and
observing
that
discussion,
I
I
feel
like
there
was
room
in
there
for
some
conditions
that
could
be
added
again.
You've
got
a
response
from
the
original
applicants.
Attorney
saying
don't
make
us
do
any
of
these
things,
because
we're
already
kind
of
doing
the
things
that
aren't
going
to
negatively
impact
this
property,
so
I
would
I
would
probably
defer
to
the
original
applicant's
testimony
tonight
to
see
how
amenable
they
are
to
some
of
those
added
conditions.
Z
C
Z
I
think
the
neighbors
were
concerned
with
the
project
and
didn't
at
the
hearing.
Didn't
weren't
excited
to
see
it
happen
for
lack
of
a
bad
way.
To
paraphrase
that
discussion,
but
they
were
concerned
about
fire
safety
and
all
those
things
and
they
wanted
to
see
some
changes
to
the
project,
and
that
was
all
again
the
same
things
that
you
saw
in
the
appellant's
letter
were
raised
at
that
planning
and
Zone
and
commission
hearing.
C
Z
Z
It
is
yeah,
certainly
from
a
housing
density
standpoint.
It's
one
house
for
40
acres,
but
the
uses
we
primarily
see
in
the
RP
District
are
agricultural
in
nature
rangeland
in
nature,
but
we
do
have
some
of
these
industrial
and
kind
of
commercial
uses
that
in
this
case
you
know
we
have
that
Northwest
pipeline
that
runs
across
the
property.
Z
So
we
we've
seen
things
like
this
pop
up
along
the
pipeline
in
that
Rural
Preservation
District,
it's
not
necessarily
a
rural
or
an
agricultural
use,
but
it's
something
that
fits
in
that
area,
because
one
we've
got
the
infrastructure
there
and
two:
it's
pretty
minimal
impact
from
a
traffic
standpoint.
Other
things
like
that.
D
Now
this
would
be
asking
you
to,
you
know,
forecast
the
future,
but
you
know
as
the
valley
grows.
Obviously
these
zoning
designations
are
subject
to
change.
Can
you
potentially
forecast
into
the
future
growth
of
the
valley
and
would
development
be
wanting
to
change
zoning
designations
in
that
area?.
Z
Yeah
chairman,
commissioner
I
think
quinoa
road
is
identified
as
a
future
expressway,
so
additional
traffic
is
seen
to
be
hitting
this
area.
We've
seen
the
rise
of
a
lot
more
industrial
uses,
particularly
in
the
kuna
area.
They've
got
the
urban
renewal
District
recently
approved.
Cunamora
road
is
where
I
believe
the
meta
site.
The
data
Farm
use
will
be
at
some
point.
Z
Does
chairman,
commissioner
I
think
I
believe
this
residence
here?
If
you
can
see
my
cursor
is,
is
the
closest
and
they're
about
2500
feet
away.
A
AA
A
Z
Z
All
right
and
Valerie,
there
is
a
clicker
that
white,
so
you
can
advance
your
slides
once
I
get
pulled
up
here.
Thank
you.
AA
Go
all
right
well,
good
evening,
Mr,
chairman
Commissioners,
and
thank
you
for
hearing
our
appeal
this
evening.
As
Leon
stated,
we
want
to
be
good
neighbors
and
we
are
not
here
to
outright
request
you
to
deny
this
application,
but
to
help
ensure
that
no
adverse
impacts
are
created
as
a
result
of
this
project
to
the
surrounding
properties,
as
well
as
protect
this
rangeland
in
the
Rural
Preservation
District,
to
ensure
that
it's
being
used
safely
and
appropriately.
AA
There
are
many
discrepancies
that
we've
seen
through
the
applicant
application
itself
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing
and
in
the
appeal
response
that
I'd
like
to
highlight
for
you
tonight
and
really
what
we
just
want
to
make
sure
are
within
I've
boiled
it
down
to
three
conditions:
around
site
access,
the
light
and
sound
mitigation
and
fire
safety
that
could
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
approval
of
this
application.
The
first
around
site
access
is
granting
that
access
and
entry
and
exit
on
Pleasant,
Valley
and
I've
got
a
map
on
the
next
slide.
AA
I'll
show
you
as
to
what
our
thinking
is
behind
that
that
is
the
long-term
requirement
by
achd
to
locate
the
access
there.
So
the
applicant
will
need
to
do
that
in
the
future.
We
are
asking
that
we
allow
the
site
activity
as
a
condition
of
approval
to
the
three
trucks
proposed
by
the
applicant
per
day
to
take
place
between
normal
business
hours.
We
put
nine
to
five
in
our
letter
and
saw
their
response
that
they
were
willing
to
limit
the
hours
in
their
application.
AA
They
asked
for
24
7
use
of
the
site,
so
we
want
to
show
some
flexibility
there
to
to
keep
that
during
daylight
hours.
That
will
mitigate
some
of
our
concerns
around
the
light
and
the
sound
that
is
produced
by
the
site.
We
learn
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
meeting
that
there
would
be
a
significant
amount
of
noise
produced
by
these
activities
and
that's
why
we're
requesting
a
sound
and
study
study
and
a
lighting
plan
with
a
lumen
study
as
necessary.
AA
That
was
required
on
a
barn
application
for
a
Vista
Avenue
resident
so
that
we
understand
the
impact
to
the
neighborhood
and
that
can
inform
other
mitigating
opportunities
that
may
be
necessary.
We
ask
that
the
app
the
condition
of
approval
that
Planning
and
Zoning
added
for
number
three
on
light
and
sound,
mitigating
fencing,
be
upheld,
Planning
and
Zoning
felt
that
a
dirt
berm
would
not
be
sightly,
and
that
may
be
true
in
an
urban
area,
but
out
where
we
are
there.
AA
It
fits
in
with
the
landscape
really
well,
and
we've
discussed
it
as
the
neighborhood
and
prefer
a
dirt
burn
be
used
as
that
to
fulfill
that
requirement.
There
is
a
Contractor
Yard
on
the
side
of
Pleasanton
Valley
and
kunamora
Crossroads
that
utilizes
a
dirt
berm
and
that
really
protects
it
from
View
and
blends
them
in
the
landscape
very
nicely.
So
we're
asking
that
that
be
go
around
the
site
equipment
as
well
as
the
truck
turn
around
and
then.
Lastly,
we
were
very
pleased
to
see
that
the
Idaho
Fire
Marshal
did
provide
some
comment.
AA
That
gave
us
a
lot
of
comfort,
so
they
recommended
to
adhere
to
the
firewise
Landscaping
requirements
and
have
the
owner
applicant
secure
a
contract
with
the
local
fire.
District
I
actually
spoke
to
the
kuna
fire
district
Chief
today,
and
he
was
supportive
of
these
recommendations,
as
well
as
pursuing
conversations
with
the
owner
and
applicant
on
that
contract.
He
has
not
had
any
conversations
with
them
yet
and
then
they
also
asked
to
follow
Idaho
fire
code,
all
of
them
of
course,
but
particularly
around
312.
AA
You're
helping
me
thank
you
we'll
go
this
back
to
this
one
perfect,
so
this
is
a
chart
I
put
together
just
to
kind
of
help.
You
understand
where
we're
coming
from
in
all
of
the
project
elements
that
are
concerning
to
us
and
how
the
information
that
the
applicant
has
provided
has
really
changed
over
time.
AA
Some
of
these
are
very
important
discrepancies
and
they're,
asking
in
their
appeal
response
that
we
all
kind
of
take
their
word
for
it,
that
they
are
going
to
take
action
to
address
our
concerns,
but
they
don't
want
to
formalize
that
as
conditions
of
approval,
we
ask
that
where
they
are
willing
to
meet
us.
What
we're
asking
for
that?
We
do
formalize
that
today,
as
a
condition
of
approval
to
make
sure
that
when
we
all
leave
tonight,
it
happens.
We've
saw
some
conflicting
information
and
potentially
deceptive
information
at
planning
and
zoning.
AA
The
Planning
and
Zoning
team
heard
a
lot
of
our
concerns.
They
agreed
with
our
concerns,
but
ultimately
did
not
make
any
motions
or
recommendations
to
add
those
as
conditions
of
approval.
The
first
area
that
was
of
concern
to
us
was
around
hours
of
operation
in
the
application.
They
stated
that
activity
would
take
place
during
daylight
hours.
When
we
were
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
meeting.
They
stated
that
their
current
practice
and
preference
is
to
run
these
trucks
24,
7
and
particularly
at
night,
in
their
appeal
response.
AA
They
said
that
they
will
limit
their
hours
from
7am
to
7
PM,
but
if
you
read
between
the
lines,
they're
really
going
to
be
until
11
pm,
because
the
activity
takes
place
for
four
hours
and
the
most
noise
is
made
in
the
last
60
minutes
which
puts
that
activity
between
10
pm
and
11
PM
past
the
Sound
Ordinance.
So
that's
of
concern
to
Us
hours
of
operation
conditions
would
really
mitigate
our
light
and
sound
concerns
as
well
by
limiting
that
to
to
normal
business
hours.
AA
It's
noteworthy
that
there
are
really
no
other
businesses,
south
of
cunamora,
Road
and
East
of
Pleasant
Valley,
there's
the
contractor
yard
and
then
R12
homes
on
Vista
Avenue,
there's
really
no
other
development
there.
So
this
is
going
to
be
introducing
that
to
our
side
of
the
street.
We
really
love
living
out
in
a
place
where
it's
quiet,
peaceful,
Beautiful,
You,
Can,
See,
For,
Miles.
It's
it's
wonderful.
We
want
to
really
preserve
that
for
the
residents
here
and
our
property
values,
the
number
of
trucks
was
not
addressed
in
the
application.
AA
Neither
was
the
sound
and
they
deferred
the
request
for
a
lighting
plan,
but
when
Planning
and
Zoning
pressed
them
on
this,
they
said
that
there
would
be
a
handful
of
trucks
and
they
Define
a
handful
as
anywhere
from
5
to
15
trucks
entering
the
site
per
day.
In
the
appeal
response,
that
number
was
reduced
to
three
and
were
very
supportive
of
that
as
a
condition
of
approval.
They
also
stated
that
there
would
be
three
stanchions
and
that's
one
question
that
we
would
like
to
have
them
addressed
tonight.
AA
AA
At
the
rebuttal
period
of
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing,
we
learned
that
it
would
produce
up
to
90
decibels
of
sound
that
has
now
been
reduced
and
still
estimated,
not
confirmed
but
estimated
between
85
to
90
decibels
and
that'll,
be
when
the
trucks
come
into
the
site
exit
and
then,
during
that
last
60
Minutes
of
activity,
we
didn't
have
any
information
on
distance
and
duration
and
I.
Don't
think
decibels
goes
far
enough.
It's
very
windy
out
there.
AA
It
picks
up
conversations
we
can
hear
from
our
neighbors
and
we
don't
know
how
that
sound
is
going
to
carry
or
how
it
might
reverberate
off
of
the
metal
buildings
across
the
street.
So
we
really
want
to
understand
that
better
and
then
lighting
impact
again
could
be
mitigated
by
hours
of
operation.
If
the
semi-truck
headlights
don't
need
to
be
on
coming
in
at
night,
they're
not
coming
into
our
bedroom
windows
at
night
and
24
7.
same
thing
with
a
few
overhead
lights,
we
don't
really
know
how
that
is
defined
and
what
that
impact
will
be.
AA
All
right
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we're
asking
for
that
site
entrance
to
be
on
Pleasant
Valley
on
this
map.
Here,
you're
you'll
see
the
white
boxes
are
representing.
The
traffic
counts
that
achd
provided
in
their
24-hour
Study
last
April.
So
it's
still
pretty
current
and
the
blue
arrow
on
Pleasant,
Valley,
Road,
South
and
then
to
the
east.
Is
the
proposed
site,
the
long-term
requirement
that
achd
has
for
that
traffic?
So
you
see
that
in
the
South
section,
that
is
the
smallest
amount
of
traffic
that
we
see
at
that
intersection.
AA
There
is
a
North.
Stop
north
south
stop
sign
there
at
Pleasant
Valley,
so
cars
are
anticipating
that
there
will
be
turns
made
and
and-
and
that
is
a
safer
place
in
our
opinion-
for
the
truck
drivers
that
breitmark
will
be
contracting
with
to
make
that
turn
onto
the
site.
You'll
see
that
there's
almost
four
times
more
traffic
on
the
East
part
of
cunamora,
going
towards
the
star
I
have
there
for
their
site.
Vista
Avenue
is
a
little
bit
beyond
that
to
the
east,
with
all
of
our
homes.
AA
I
also
do
want
to
mention
that
with
the
40
acre
Parcels,
the
length
of
our
properties
are
a
half
mile.
So
while
that
might
sound
like
it's
really
far
away
in
the
city,
it
is
not
that
far
away
where
out
where
we
are
so
we're
we're
proposing
that
that
Pleasant
Valley
entrance
a
couple
of
things
to
note
on
cunamora
when
you're
driving
out
there
there's
no
turn
lane
for
Vista
Avenue
or
for
this
site.
AA
This
site
will
not
have
a
large
Landmark
or
a
street
sign
that
would
indicate
to
other
motorists,
traveling
50
to
60
miles
an
hour
that
there
will
be
a
turn
coming
up
when
we
turn
right
onto
Vista
Avenue.
A
lot
of
cars
will
try
and
go
around
us
and
they
are
facing
semi-trucks
going
to
the
CS
beef,
Packers
or
the
meta
site,
and
so
it's
very
dangerous
for
us
to
be
turning
there
and
also
for
those
cars
that
tend
to
pass
and
just
get
a
little
impatient
trying
to
get
over
to
84..
AA
AA
And
then
the
last
piece
just
to
expand
on
the
Idaho
Fire
Marshal
this
site
is
in
an
area
that's
prone
to
wildfires.
It
is
very
windy
and
it
picks
up
very
quickly.
There
is
a
home
that
has
burned
down
in
the
past
on
Vista
Avenue,
so
it's
a
very
real
threat
and
as
recently
as
last
July,
we
were
all
packing
up
and
ready
to
evacuate
with
a
fire
to
the
east
of
us.
AA
That,
thankfully,
was
well
contained
and
did
not
reach
our
properties,
but
it
is
a
very
real
concern
out
there
for
us,
this
location,
this
post
site
will
be
unstaffed
and
it
is
does
not
have
a
well
or
any
other
alternate
water
sources.
It's
not
within
the
fire
district.
So
this
is
a
very
real
concern.
AA
The
Idaho
Fire
Marshal
has
provided
three
recommendations
that
we'd
like
to
see
added
as
conditions
of
approval
to
participate
in
the
firewise
Landscaping
requirements
to
have
the
owner
and
applicant
secure
that
contract
to
be
protected
by
the
fire
district
and
have
a
suppression
plan
and
then,
of
course,
to
follow
the
Idaho
code.
I
also
think
that
it
is
noteworthy
that
kuna
rural
fire
district
is
really
struggling
in
their
own
words
on
their
website
to
meet
the
demand
of
this
area.
AA
AA
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight
and
hearing
our
application.
Thank
you
to
Leon
for
educating
me
on
this
process.
We
know
more
going
into
this
next
time.
If
we
have
to
I'm
sure
there
will
be
more
applications
out
where
we
are
we'd
love
it
to
stay
the
same,
but
we
know
the
Treasure
Valley
is
growing,
so
we're
not
again
trying
to
be
difficult
to
work
with,
but
would
really
like
to
have
a
plan
tonight
that
ensures
that
there's
no
adverse
impacts
to
our
properties
and
the
rangeland.
AA
AA
Yeah,
commissioner
Davidson
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
That
was
a
concern
of
Planning
and
Zoning
that
you
know
there's
already
some
noise
out
there.
So
what
would
this
you
know
add
to
that,
but
that
is
mostly
active,
I
would
say
on
the
weekends
and
respectfully
I
hear
that
as
the
sound
of
Freedom.
So
it
doesn't
really
bother
me
too
much.
S
AA
A
Okay,
we
will
allow
the
the
original
applicant
to
to
make
a
presentation
if
you'd
like
go
ahead.
V
Thank
you,
Mr,
chairman
commissioners.
Let
me
just
grab
the.
V
While
he,
while
Mr
letson,
gets
the
slideshow.
V
Exactly
what
I'm
heading?
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Landon
Brown
I'm,
an
attorney
from
Holly
troxyl.
Our
address
is
877
Main
Street
number
200,
Boyce,
Idaho,
83701,
okay,
I,
represent
bright
mark
in
this
appeal.
I
have
two
bright
Mark
Representatives
with
me
today,
I'd
like
to
introduce
the
first
is
Miss
Amy
Dupree
who's,
the
director
of
development.
We
also
have
Ryan
Berger
who's.
The
director
of
interconnection
development
I
may
invite
them
up
to
answer
any
technical
questions
that
I
can't
answer
for
the
board.
Today.
Okay,.
V
All
right,
I
got
it
working
I
want
to
start
out
by
again
I
I
think
these
maps
have
been
shown
pretty
well
it's
hard
to
tell
from
your
distance,
but
that
red
box
is
the
proposed
injection
site
located
there
off
of
kunamora
road
I
want
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit
and
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
other
land
uses
in
the
surrounding
area.
As
you
can
see,
north
of
our
site
is
the
Department
of
Correction
facilities.
V
V
If
you
keep
going
for
further
to
the
left,
you
see
the
Boise
Police
Department,
that's
their
training
and
shooting
range
as
well,
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
left
lower
hand
of
the
corner
of
the
screen,
there
is
a
beef
packing
plant
and
if
you
zoom
in
to
the
beef
packing
plant
at
the
top
of
the
screen,
you
see
semi-truck
trailers,
that's
what's
at
the
top
of
that
screen.
V
Now
going
back
to
our
proposed
site,
if
you'll
notice,
the
development
write-up
adjacent
to
our
proposed
site,
that's
the
Williams
pipeline
site.
It
already
has
a
enclosed
chain
link
fence.
It
has
pipes
that
has
a
gas
tank,
it
Williams
runs
and
operates
the
Northwest
pipeline,
which
is
a
gas
pipeline
system
that
crosses
right
in
this
area.
V
We
breitmark
selected
this
location
because
it's
adjacent
to
this
Williams
site
and
it
allows
them
to
interject
natural
gas
directly
into
the
Northwest
pipeline
for
Consumer
use,
and
so
this
is
the
proposed
site.
If
you
look
up
in
the
top
right
corner
of
the
site
plan,
that
is
where
our
equipment
will
be
for
injecting
the
gas
into
the
pipeline.
Now
Mr
letson
mentioned
that
there's
going
to
be
some
structures
on
the
site
that
is
no
longer
in
the
plans.
V
There
will
be
no
structures,
it
will
just
be
equipment
and
then
the
rest
of
the
site
is
a
turnaround
for
the
semi
truck,
so
they'll
enter
in
through
the
driveway
turn
around
connect
their
trailers
to
the
injection
equipment
and
then
depart
on
cunamora
Road
the
equipment
that
will
be
on
the
site.
There
will
be
three
loading
stanchions
connected
to
hoses
a
compressor,
a
decanting,
skid,
a
metering
station,
an
electrical
box
and
some
pipes.
This
is
a
picture
of
a
injection
site
that
bright
Mark
owns
and
operates
up
in
Michigan.
V
V
There
will
be
three
deliveries
made
to
the
site
per
day
and
breitmark
has
scheduled
these
deliveries
to
occur
at
off
peak
traffic
hours,
and
so
the
delivery
schedule
will
be
they'll
drop
off
a
trailer
at
7
A.M
pick
it
up
at
12
30.,
the
next
delivery.
They'll
drop
it
off
around
1
30,
pick
it
up
at
6,
30
and
then
the
last
delivery.
They
will
drop
it
off
at
6,
30
to
7
pm
and
it
will
stay.
The
trailer
will
stay
overnight
and
they
will
pick
it
up
again.
V
In
the
morning
now
the
appellants
mentioned
the
sound
from
that
compressor
kicking
on
late
at
night.
That's
not
the
case.
The
compressor
for
the
last
trailer
will
not
be
turned
on
until
the
next
morning.
So
they'll
finish
offloading
that
trailer
the
next
morning,
so
it
will
not
be
running
late
at
night.
V
The
gas
industry,
as
you
might
imagine,
is
heavily
regulated
by
federal
government
and
breitmark
follows
all
the
rules
and
regulations
that
are
issued
by
the
pipeline
and
hazardous
material
safety
administration.
They
also
install
fire,
rupture
and
overprotection
devices
on
their
equipment,
which
these
devices
are
designed
to
stop
the
gas
flow
in
the
event
of
an
emergency.
V
They
are
also
going
to
surround
the
site
with
a
chain-linked
fence
with
barbed
wire
on
the
top,
and
it
that's
kind
of
weird
for
a
fire
protection
device,
but
it
actually
does
help
with
fire
protection,
because
when
breitmark
follows
all
the
rules
and
regulations
that
are
required
by
the
federal
government,
these
sites
are
really
really
safe
from
fire.
V
Unless
somebody
breaks
in
and
starts
destroying
some
of
the
pipes
and
destroying
some
of
the
equipment
so
protecting
that
site
and
securing
it
is
a
fire
protection
part
of
our
fire
protection
plan,
and
so
we
will
be
securing
that
site.
There
will
be
a
gated
entry
that
you
can
only
access
with
a
key
card.
V
In
addition
to
those
devices
we
also
bright.
Mark
is
also
proactive,
working
with
fire
departments
and
the
community.
We
have
a
public
outreach
program
where
breitmark
meets
with
Representatives
on
an
annual
basis
to
discuss
fire
response
and
the
equipment
we
have
on
site.
V
V
V
They
don't
receive
special
treatment.
If
a
fire
happens
in
their
facility,
they
get
a
standard
response,
but
like
breitmark,
they
are
proactive
and
they
do
try
to
provide
training
to
some
of
the
First
Responders,
which
is
what
we
propose.
However,
the
State
Fire
Marshal
did
provide
a
some
recommendations
and
my
client
does
not
oppose
those
recommendations.
We
think
those
are
good
recommendations
from
the
fire
marshal
and
so
the
first
recommendation
that
the
fire
marshal
made
was
to
have
a
fire
break
around
the
site.
V
We
are
not
opposed
to
doing
that
and
if
you
make
that
a
condition
of
approval
we'd
be
happy
to
comply.
The
second
requirement
that
the
fire
marshal
recommended
was
to
solicit
fire
districts
and
try
to
get
a
contract
with
them.
We
are.
We
are
right
now
attempting
to
try
to
do
that.
We've
contacted
Boise
fire
department,
we've
contacted
the
Whitney
fire
district
and
the
Cuna
fire
district.
We
had
to
leave
messages
with
the
Whitney
fire
district
and
the
Cuna
fire
district.
V
The
Hakuna
fire
chief
called
us
back
today,
but
the
representative
that
he
called
back
today
was
on
an
airplane,
so
she
wasn't
able
to
speak
with
him,
but
we
are
intending
to
to
to
make
contact
with
those
fire
districts
and
attempt
to
come
up
with
an
agreement
with
them
to
have
them
respond
and
provide
training
with
them
as
well.
The
last
recommendation
from
the
State
Fire
Marshal
was
to
put
impact
protection
on
the
equipment
that
may
be
subject
to
vehicular
traffic.
V
Now
this
site
is
going
to
be
off
cunamora
road,
quite
a
ways:
there's
cunamora
road,
then
there's
the
William
plant,
then
there's
our
location,
so
I
I,
don't
necessarily
think
it's
necessary,
but
again
we
think
it's
important
to
be
safe.
So
if
the
board
makes
out
a
requirement,
we
have
no
problem
complying
with
that
requirement.
V
Next,
the
we
we
do
ask
the
board
to
to
to
approve
pnz's
recommendation
and
achd's
recommendation
to
keep
the
driveway
temporarily
on
kunamora
road,
and
we
believe
that
we're
going
to
have
a
very
limited
impact
on
traffic
on
kinomara
road,
again
we're
only
adding
three
deliveries
per
day,
three
semi-trucks
per
day,
and
we
plan
to
do
those
on
off
off-peak
hours,
the
according
to
the
current
traffic
count,
our
use
of
cunamora
Road
will
will
impact
to
only
only
add
0.2
percent
to
its
daily
commute.
V
So
it's
a
very,
very
limited
use
of
kinomora
Road.
In
addition,
currently,
right
now
we
only
have
an
easement
in
our
proposed
site,
the
red
area.
We
don't
have
legal
access
right
now
to
to
build
anything
towards
Pleasant
Valley
Road.
Now
we
could
potentially
obtain
that.
V
But
right
now
we
don't
three
moving
that
driveway
to
Pleasant
Valley
is
not
going
to
necessarily
make
traffic
safer,
because
even
if
we
turn
on
to
Pleasant
Valley
Road,
our
trucks
are
still
going
to
have
to
turn
onto
kunamora
Road
in
order
to
get
to
the
interstate
and
cunamor
that
intersection
at
Pleasant,
Valley
and
kunamora
Road
cross
traffic
does
not
stop
so
whether
our
trucks
are
turning
on
to
kunamora
Road,
from
Pleasant
Valley
or
from
the
driveway
they're.
V
Faced
with
the
same
situation
where
they
have
to
track
cross
traffic
is
not
stopping,
so
they
have
to
wait
for
traffic
to
clear
turn
onto
the
road
and
then
accelerate
before
traffic
catches.
Up
and
and
again,
it's
it's
three
trucks
per
day,
and
so
the
safety
risk
is
a
lot
less
than
say,
Vehicles
turning
off
of
Vista
Avenue,
which
have
far
more
than
three
vehicle
trips
per
day.
Making
that
exact
same
turn.
V
Lastly,
constructing
a
3500
foot
driveway
will
be
cost
prohibitive.
Appellants
mentioned
that.
Well,
it's
going
to
be
the
same
price
because
we're
eventually
going
to
have
to
move
it,
but
when
we
move
it,
it's
it's
going
to
be
moved
consistent
with
development
of
that
parcel.
So
we
can
share
that
cost
with
the
developers
of
that
parcel
and
we
can
plan
with
them
where
that
road
is
going
to
go
and
we
can
work
with
achd
to
figure
out
where
the
best
place
to
put
that
driveway
in
collaboration
with
whatever
development's
going
to
go
on
there.
V
Next
I
want
to
talk
briefly
about
noise,
the
site's
not
going
to
produce
excessive
noise.
The
only
noise
on
the
site
will
be
trucks
entering
and
exiting
the
site,
which
will
occur
three
deliveries
per
day
and
then
a
compressor
is
going
to
be
used
in
the
last
30
30
to
60
Minutes
of
offloading,
with
the
exception
of
that
last
trailer
again.
V
That
last
trailer
we're
not
going
to
start
the
compressor
until
the
next
morning,
so
there's
not
going
to
be
any
noise
past
seven
o'clock
when
that
last
trailer
is
delivered,
they
will
be
start
the
offloading
process,
but
the
compressor
will
not
kick
in
until
the
next
morning
and
these
noises
produce
less
than
90
decibels
and
one
of
the
main
factors
of
noise
mitigation
is
distance.
V
And
so,
if
you
look
at
this
map,
this
measures,
the
distance
between
our
site
and
the
nearest
resident
and
the
furthest
resident
on
Vista
Avenue
and
as
Mr
letson
said,
that
this
distance
is
between
half
a
mile
to
the
nearest
resident
and
a
mile
to
the
furthest
resident
on
Vista,
Avenue
and
so
using
the
inverse
Square
law
by
the
time
Sound
reaches
these
residents.
Those
decibel
levels
will
be
around
the
36
to
42
decibel
range,
which
is
a
faint
noise
and
considering
and
well
here's
here's
a
visual
of
it.
V
This
is
a
picture
taken
from
the
injection
site,
the
proposed
site
and
it's
a
picture
facing
Vista
Avenue,
and
so
you
can
see
at
the
Horizon.
You
can
see
some
of
those
homes
they're
far
away.
It's
half
a
mile
from
the
nearest
resident,
so
you
can
imagine
standing
at
that
home
half
a
mile
away
and
hearing
a
truck
turn
on
from
the
injection
site.
V
It's
going
to
be
a
very
faint,
maybe
even
imperceptible,
noise
and
again
this
noise
is
not
going
to
be
constant
three
trucks
a
day
and
then
30
to
60
Minutes
of
the
compressor.
It's
not
a
noise,
that's
going
to
be
going
throughout
the
entire
day
and
we
are
going
to
comply
with
the
Ada
County
noise
ordinance
and
again,
if
you
look
at
the
surrounding
use,
there's
four
gun
ranges:
there's
semi
trucks
on
cunamora
going
all
throughout
the
day
with
those
noises
going
on.
These
sounds
coming
from
the
proposed
site
is
going
to
be
imperceptible.
V
Lastly,
I
want
to
talk
about
light.
Similarly,
this
site
is
not
going
to
produce
excessive
light.
The
only
light
will
be
a
few
overhead
lights
on
the
site
for
our
for
our
employees
to
connect
equipment
and
those
lights
are
going
to
have
a
switch.
So
when
our
employees
are
on
site,
they
can
turn
the
lights
on
and
when
they
leave,
they
can
turn
the
lights
off.
So
it's
not
a
constant
light.
That's
on
throughout
I,
see
I'm
out
of
time.
Do
you
Mr,
chairman,
may
I
have
another
minute
to
finish
sure.
V
It
up
thank
you
and
so
and
again
we'll
be
using
downward
facing
shielding
as
well
and
the
headlights
from
the
trucks
most
of
the
time
when
those
trucks
arrive,
it's
going
to
be
daylight,
especially
if
it's
in
the
summer,
every
single
delivery
is
going
to
be
in
the
daylight,
but
if
it's
in
the
winter
there
may
be
a
time
where
a
headlight
appears.
V
V
Lastly,
the
only
time
headlights
are
actually
going
to
be
facing.
Vista
is
when
the
trucks
make
that
final
turn
around
the
site,
and
so
the
only
time
headlights
are
even
going
to
be
facing.
Vista
Avenue
is
a
brief,
maybe
a
five
second
period.
Which
is
far
less
than
all
the
semi
trucks
coming
down:
kunamora
Road
shining,
their
headlights
towards
Vista,
Avenue,
Road,
and
so
for
those
reasons
we
don't
think
there's
going
to
be
enough
light
produced
to
justify
any
Lumen
study
and
to
go
through
that
expense.
V
And
so,
lastly,
the
pnz
board
included
condition
of
approval
three,
which
asks
the
applicant
to
work
with
staff
to
establish
appropriate
fencing
that
covers
light
and
sound
mitigation.
We
would
ask
the
board
to
remove
that
condition.
Again.
We
want
our
fence
to
be
designed
for
safety
purposes,
not
for
sound
and
light
mitigation,
and
again
the
the
sound
and
light
that's
going
to
be
produced
is
so
insubstantial
that
we
don't
think
it
would
be
necessary
to
mitigate
that,
and
so,
lastly,
again
this
is
the
conditions
of
approval
that
pnz
issued.
V
We
would
we
would
ask
that
this
board
during
deliberation,
that
this
board
consider
striking
condition
of
approval
number
three
and
then,
if
this
board
believes
it
would
be
helpful,
we
would
not
be
opposed
to
adding
a
condition
where
the
applicant
complies
with
the
recommendations
of
the
State
Fire
Marshal
found
in
exhibit
15a.
Okay,
I'll
stand
for
questions
all.
D
Mr
chair
just
so
I
can
understand
the
project
better.
The
the
do
the
trucks
stay
with
the
you
know
the
container
of
gas
at
the
the
offloading
site,
or
are
they
dropping
off
a
container
and
then
coming
back
to
get
it.
V
There
they
are
dropping
off
a
trailer
and
then
leaving
the
site
and
then
they'll
come
back
and
pick
it
up
and
and
they
may
it,
it
may
be
where
they
come
back
with
another
trailer
and
drop
that
trailer
off
and
then
pick
up
the
one
that
they
had
left
and
depart
the
site
or
they
may
just
come
back
and
pick
it
up
and
then
have
another
truck.
Deliver
the
next
one.
V
D
V
I
think
it
would
be
six
trips
if,
if
they
did
it
that
way,
I
think
there's
a
way
to
reduce
that,
if
they're
bringing
a
trailer
with
them
and
dropping
it
off
at
the
same
time
that
they're
picking
one
up
but
again,
that's
that's
going
to
be
up
to
the
trucking
company
on
on
and
and
the
the
capacity
of
their
drivers.
D
Okay
and
then
all
right,
so
as
far
as
noise
and
light
goes
well,
you
previously
mentioned
you
were
they're,
considering
building
a
structure
but
changed
their
mind.
What
was
that
structure
going
to
be
it.
V
Was
going
to
be
a
trailer
that
was
gonna
potentially
house
an
office
like
a
temporary
or
office
that
employees
could
visit,
but
that's
been
abandoned
and
they're
just
going
to
do
equipment
there.
D
Okay,
the
light
to
me
sounds
pretty
non-invasive
I
mean
if
it's,
how
are
they
going
to
switch
it
on
and
off
when
they
get
to
the
site.
D
All
right
so,
regarding
the
noise
issues,
is
there
any
reason
why
you
couldn't
build,
maybe
like
a
little
small
wall
to
muffle
some
of
the
sound?
Maybe
some
sound
deadening
tiles
on
there,
just
as
opposed
to
a
chain
link
fans,
but
maybe
just
put
a
wall
or
you
know,
trees
around
the
perimeter
of
the
fence.
I
mean
have
you
looked
at
any
other
inexpensive
options
to
muffle
sound.
V
V
Obviously,
if
the,
if
the
board
makes
a
a
requirement,
we
certainly
will
look
into
it
and
and
figure
out
what
needs
to
be
done.
We
just
don't
think
given
the
the
trucks
coming
in
and
out
and
the
compressor
being
used
and
the
limited
amount
of
time
that
sounds
going
to
be
there
and
the
limited
amount
of
sound
and
the
distance
of
the
residences.
We
don't
see
a
need
for
regulation
on
that.
V
Was
not
limited
by
the
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission?
That's
just
our
our
business
plan
and
operation
plan.
D
Okay,
I
think
all
right.
That's
all.
C
Do
go
ahead,
I
guess
you!
You
showed
pictures
of
the
the
Michigan
side
so
ABS.
Is
there
any
information
from
that
side
that
could
help
us
hear
in
terms
of
all
the
questions
that
are
asked.
How
close
are
they
to
neighbors
noise
control,
light
control?
All
of
those
issues
that
are
raised
here?
Have
they
been
raised
there?
How
close
are
their
neighbors.
V
Personally,
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
those
answers.
Commissioner,
daily
I
can
tell
you
that
the
Michigan
site
their
compressor,
that
they
use
there,
is
a
300
horsepower
compressor
and
that's
where
we
got
the
90
decibel
measurement,
because
we
measured
that
the
Michigan
site
and
the
highest
that
the
decibel
level
got
for
a
300
horsepower.
Compressor
was
around
85
to
90.
the
the
compressor
we're
using
at
this
site
will
be
250
horsepower,
so
it'll
be
less
horsepower,
so
we
believe
the
sound
will
be
even
lower
than
the
85
to
90
decibels.
V
C
C
This
may
be
a
staff
question
as
well
as
for
you,
is
there
any
information
that
regarding
noise,
ETC
number
of
trucks,
because
the
cutemora
road,
as
you
pointed
out,
is
basically
the
same
distance
to
those
houses
along
Vista
as
a
number
of
trucks,
sound
Etc
and
another
question
it
when
that
facility
was
built,
the
neighbors
to
the
West
were
there
any
conditions
on
the
number
of
trucks
going
along
cure,
motor
based
on
noise.
Z
Chairman
commissioner
I'll
answer
your
last
question.
First,
I
am
not
familiar
with
the
conditions
approval
of
that
facility
if
there
were
any
limitations,
but
my
I
estimate
that
there
aren't
we
haven't,
had
any
enforcement
issues
related
to
that
site,
but
I
don't
have
any
specific
knowledge
as
to
conditions
for
the
Northwest
pipeline
facility
to
the
north.
On
this
program,.
C
Z
Z
Than
what
they're
proposing
I
don't
think,
that's
necessarily
an
injection
site,
I!
Think
it
and
again
maybe
their
engineer
or
lawyer
could
explain
it.
It's
it's
a
Support
Facility
for
the
pipeline
itself,
so
I
think
it
has
very
limited
traffic,
probably
only
in
when
the
pipeline
needs
to
be
maintained
or
that
equipment
needs
to
be
maintained.
But
it's
not
a
come
and
go
injection
site
similar
to
what
we.
C
Z
Chairman,
commissioner,
you
know
we
don't
usually
break
out
trip
generation
based
on
type
of
vehicle,
but
I
do
know
that
CSV
Packers
is
a
substantial
facility
and
there
was
a
conditional
use
attached
to
that.
In
the
past,
achg
took
a
close
look.
Z
I,
anticipate
that
the
trip
generation
from
that
facility
between
staff
driving
out
there
and
and
working
at
the
facility,
as
well
as
deliveries
of
large
trucks
is,
is
substantial
and
you
know
hundreds
of
trips
a
day.
I
would
anticipate.
Z
I
believe
it
was
in
the
applicant's
presentation
here
they
are
off
of
Cole.
Thank
you.
C
So
they
have
to,
they
have
to
turn
on
kunamora
road
as
well
correct.
Do
we
have
any
accident
statistics
or
anything
on
from
their
traffic
yeah.
Z
Chairman
commissioner
I
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
answer
specifically
accident
information
related
to
that
site.
I
know,
kinamora
Road
certainly
has
a
lot
of
traffic
and
I
do
believe.
There
are,
as
reported
anecdotally
and
maybe
specific
knowledge
by
some
of
the
residents
in
the
area.
There
are
some
some
accidents
that
have
occurred
on
kirimura
road
as
a
result
of
the
the
traffic
through
there,
the
opponent
himself
identified.
You
know
daily
several
thousand
trips
on
that
road,
but
I
don't
have
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Z
How
many
accidents
occur
on
kunamora,
road
and
specific?
To
that
sorry,
I
keep
trying
to
get
to
that.
You
have
way
too
many
slides.
Z
So
yeah
we've
got
that's
cool,
I.
Think
colon
Plaza
Valley,
as
mentioned
earlier
by
someone
from
the
audience
so
but
I
yeah.
To
to
your
point,
commissioner:
I
don't
have
specific
accent:
knowledge
for
kinomora
Road.
C
V
C
So,
to
sum
it
up,
your
request
is
the
only
thing
to
change.
Is
that
you
would
you
you
would
like
to
find
you.
You
would
agree
with
the
fire
yeah.
Yes,.
C
And
then,
back
to
our
commissioner
Davidson's
request:
are
there
any
other
things
you've
explored
for
either
sound
or
light
mitigation?
That's
relatively
easy
to
do
like
fencing
or
whatever
you
have.
You
explored
any
of
those
thought
about
them
and
explored
them.
V
Certainly,
we've
we've
thought
about
them.
We
haven't
gone
out
and
gotten
any
quotes
and
done
a
a
deep
dive
into
what
that
would
look
like.
We
would
like
to
keep
the
fence,
as
we
are
proposing
for
safety
purposes,
a
chain
link
fence
with
barbed
wire
on
the
fence,
with
a
gated
entryway.
As
far
as
putting
like
a
berm
or
a
solid
wall.
V
Well,
you
know
if,
if
the
board
makes
that
a
requirement,
we
certainly
would
absolutely
explore
it
and
and
and
look
into
it.
We
just
believe
that,
given
the
facts
and
the
record
that
type
of
Regulation
doesn't
need
to
occur,
we
don't
think
that
requirement
is
necessary,
given
what's
in
the
record,
currently.
D
Z
Sound
and
light
chairman
commissioner
Davison
so
as
noted
or
as
seen
on
the
strikethrough
version
of
the
conditions
of
approval
here,
the
the
condition
said:
the
applicants
shall
work
with
staff
to
establish
appropriate
fencing
that
covers
light
and
sound
mitigation.
I
think
there's
a
lot
that
you
could
fit
into
what
appropriate
means,
but
you
know
we
would
want
to
find
a
balance
between
something:
that's
fire
safe,
so
Landscaping
came
up
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
hearing
and
one
I,
don't
believe.
There's
any
water
on
the
site.
Z
But
it
really
is-
and
this
is
kind
of
that
Master
site
plan
approval
process
where
that
can
be
deferred
later
for
staff
to
work
closely
with
the
applicant
for
things
like
Landscaping
lighting
and
screening.
And
so
you
know
we
would,
if
it's
the
board's
interest
similar
to
what
we've
done
in
past
applications.
You
could
request
more
detail
on
that
and-
and
we
could
present
that
to
you
with
any
updated
findings
that
you've
that
you
would
want
to
see
for
the
project.
Z
I
think
we
did
that
with
a
recent
project
where
we
wanted
to
see
a
more
fine-tuned
landscape
plan.
So
you
could
certainly
ask
for
that
before
you
give
your
final
approval.
Otherwise,
you
could
allow
staff
to
try
to
work
on
it
with
the
applicant,
but
it
would
have
to
again
screen
light
and
try
to
mitigate
sound
impacts.
V
A
Okay,
do
you
have
any
more
questions?
Okay,
well,
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
you.
You
indicated
that
the
type
of
compressor
is
a
smaller
compressor
than
what
you
what
the
company
has
in
Michigan
and
that
occur
that
it
creates
85
to
90
decibels.
Where
was
those
decibels
measured
from
right
at
the
site
or.
V
Beyond
right
at
the
site,
10
feet
from
the
compressor
10.
V
Z
Chairman
commissioner,
there's
no
specific
decibel
level
specified
in
the
noise
ordinance.
I.
Think
I
include
that
in
my
memo,
but
it's
essentially
that
and
I
can
even
read
it
because
it
was
a
part
of
the
memo
provided
to
the
board.
It's
it
says
between
the
hours
of
10
pm
and
seven
o'clock
A.M
the
next
day.
Z
It
shall
be
unlawful
for
any
person
or
business
to
make
cause
or
allow
loud
or
unusual
Noise
by
means
of
voice,
musical
instrument,
Horn,
Radio,
loudspeaker,
automobile
Machinery,
other
sound,
amplifying
equipment,
domesticated
animals
or
any
other
means
which
disturbs
the
Peace,
Quiet
and
comfort
of
any
reasonable
person
of
normal
sensitiveness
residing
in
the
area.
Louder.
Unusual
noise
is
that
which
is
plainly
audible
within
within
any
residence
or
business
other
than
the
source
of
the
sound
or
upon
a
public,
right-of-way
or
Street
at
a
distance
of
100
feet
or
more
from
the
source
of
said
sound.
A
To
100
feet,
but
the
closest
house
did,
you
say,
was
2500
feet,
chairman,
that's
correct
and,
and
the
next
closest
one
was
a
mile
half
mile
on
a.
V
Mile,
that's
not
a
Mr
chairman,
that's
not
the
next
closest
one,
that's
the
the
furthest,
one
away
on
Vista
Avenue!
Oh
so
the
homes
sit
between
half
a
mile
and
a
mile
half.
A
V
A
Distance
yeah
because
sound
and
then
varies
with
there's
a
lot
of
variables
in
there
and
how
far
it
travels
and
so
forth
and
and
our
noise
ordinance
is
from
10
pm
to
7
A.M
correct.
Yes,
we
have
any
trucks
on
there
between
those
hours,
Mr.
V
A
Have
any
employees
on
site
other
in
addition
to
one,
because
you,
because
I
guess
the
way
I
understand
you
won't
have
any
employees
there
unless
they're
unloading,
the
the
product
correct,
correct.
V
A
V
V
I
would
have
to
think
about
that.
To
figure
out
the
exact
number.
A
T
A
Out
of
it,
but
methane
is
not
pure
enough
to
go
into
into
natural
gas
pipeline,
it
has
to
be
processed
where,
where
is
it?
Where
are
these
products
processed
they're.
A
There
so
they
have
to
have
a
a
plant
to
so
then.
So
then,
when
it's
picked
up
the
the
product
one
is
picked
up
at
the
dairy.
It's
pure
enough.
It
can
go
into
the
end
of
the
pipeline.
V
A
Is
there
any
plans
to
expand
I
mean,
do
you
have
do
you
have?
Are
you
right
at
your
Peak
production
right
now
or
do
the
are
these
dairies
already
in
operation
with
producing
the
the
Natural
Gas?
Let.
A
C
AB
A
A
A
Z
Chairman
Commissioners
I
can
weigh
in
on
that
real
quick
I
apologize,
currently
there's
no
limitation
on
number
of
deliveries
or
things
to
the
site.
So
if
you
were
to
add
that
condition,
yes
in
the
future,
they
would
have
to
they'd
have
to
come
back
to
modify
or
get
a
new
CEO
approval
right.
A
A
D
V
I
I
I'm,
not
familiar
with
that
request
for
for
that
condition,
but
I
can
I
can't
speak
to
that.
A
little
bit
bright,
Mark
is
Contracting
with
CNG
direct
for
the
trucking
and
transportation
and
again
CNG
direct
is
since
they're
transporting
gas
they're
regulated
by
the
same
federal
act
for
transportation
of
gas,
and
that
act
does
have
certain
requirements
and
regulations,
for
you
know
truck
fortification
and
what
the
what
the
truck
needs
to
have
in
order
to
safely
transport
that
gas
it
needs
to
be.
V
You
know
a
certain
amount
of
pressure
and
a
certain
design
and
CNG
direct
has
to
comply
with
that
in
order
to
transport
the
gas
again
we
contract
with
them.
So
you
know
we
don't
have
control
over
the
extent
to
which
they
protect.
If
they're
going
well
beyond
what
federal
regulations
require,
we
can't
force
them
to
do
that,
but
we
do
know
that
they're
going
to
be
in
compliance
with
all
rules
and
regulations.
C
So
you,
you
indicated
the
negotiable
the
hours
of
a
day,
the
hours
of
the
day.
So
what?
What
is?
What
are
your
parameters
and
what
what's
realistically,
to
accomplish
your
purposes
in
terms
of
servicing
the
three
trucks
a
day
realistically
hours
in
a
day.
V
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Daley,
it
really
depends
on
how
we
Define
the
use.
So
if,
if
the
use
is
just
injecting
the
gas
into
the
pipeline,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
unhooking
a
trailer
at
seven
o'clock
and
connecting
it
to
the
pipeline,
and
it's
going
to
naturally
be
draining
into
that
pipeline
until
you
know
maybe
10
or
11
p.m.
It's
not
gonna.
It's
not
going
to
have
sound.
It's
not
going
to
have
light
because
the
the
employees
are
going
to
be
gone.
V
We're
not
going
to
be
using
a
compressor,
there's
not
going
to
be
a
truck
on
site,
but
if
that's
the
use,
then
then
yeah
we'll
need
the
use
to
be.
You
know,
at
least
until
probably
11
p.m,
7
A.M
to
11
p.m.
Now
that
doesn't
mean
again
that
doesn't
mean
there's
going
to
be
sound
and
light
during
that
time
period.
That
just
means
that's.
When
the
gas
is
flowing
into
the
pipeline.
C
V
V
Yes,
Mr
chairman
and
commissioner
Dale
I
think
that
I
mean
the
proposed
use
is
a
quasi
public
use
relating
to
gas.
It's
not
a
use
for
transporting
anything,
and
so
the
hours
of
operation
are
going
to
be
relating
to
emptying
the
gas
into
the
pipeline
and
not
the
trucking,
and
so
if,
if
that,
would
that
would
need
to
be
a
different
type
of
a
condition
than
hours
of
operation.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
have
one
more
question
and
that's
because
you
indicated
that
that
a
lot
of
trucks
are
on
are
on
King,
Road
and
they're,
probably
going
east
to
get
on
the
interstate,
and
some
of
your
trucks
will
be
doing
the
same
thing.
A
Berries,
okay,
okay,
we'll
have
any
more
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
chairman.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Yes
are
there
anyone
else
that
wishes
to
we've
had
we've
had
a
a
pro
and
a
con.
Now
we
can
have
some
comments.
If
there's
anybody
else
wish
to
comment,
no
I,
don't
I
have
just
the
the
people
that
work
for
breitmark.
A
H
Michael
cook
16188,
South
Vista,
just
on
obviously
Vista,
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
trucks
and
the
traffic
and,
and
all
of
that
probably
are
or
my
bigger
concern
is
the
noise
of
the
compressor
running
like
if
that
compressor
stops
at
5
or
7
p.m,
and
it's
not
running
and
they're
just
draining
stuff
and
there's
no
noise
after
7
P.M
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
as
far
as,
but
when
they're
saying
they
can
operate
till
11.
Does
that
mean
the
compressor
can
be
also
running
till
11?
H
That's
because
that
compressor,
it
might
be
85
decibels,
but
it's
that
droning
and
droning
and
droning
and
droning,
where
it's
going
to
be
annoying
after
a
while.
The
other
concern
I
would
say
is
we
talked
about
csb
beef
Packers
in
the
trucks
that
are
going
there.
Well,
they
have
turnout
Lanes,
they
have
a
left-hand
turn
lane
and
they
have
a
turnout
Lane
to
come.
If
they're
coming
from
the
West
to
be
able
to
be
out
of
traffic
here,
they
don't
have
that.
H
So
when
they're
slowing
down
down
trying
to
make
a
turn-
and
you
have
1500
vehicles
coming
across
there,
including
speeding
trucks
going
down
there
and
having
to
slam
on
their
brakes
because
they're
not
used
to
having
somebody
stop
there,
one
or
two
or
three
times
a
day,
it's
going
to
be
a
problem
if
they
had
a
turnout,
Lane.
That
could
be
a
an
easier
solution
to
that
to
be
able
to
turn
in
there
and
the
the
main
thing
I
want
is
that
their
conditions
are
put
in
the
report
that
it's
not
okay.
H
R
Amy
nindorf15950,
South,
Vista,
Avenue
and
well
I
have
a
lot
of
things,
but
the
assumptions
and
the
thoughts
about
living
out
there
or
the
noise
and
everything
there's
we
have
a
lot
of
rebuttals
to
that.
But
so
that's
how
annoys
study
would
help,
but
as
far
as
the
shooting
ranges
they're
not
operating
at
night,
it's
very
very
rare.
It's
actually
not
even
every
weekend.
R
As
far
as
truck
noise,
we
hear
the
trucks
going
up
and
down
the
road,
but
it's
not
a
constant
noise
and
there's
there's
just
been
so
much
so
much
question,
and
so
many
assumptions,
and
so
many
unanswered
questions.
I,
guess
that
we
really
want
to
get
things
ironed
out.
But
there's
points
where
they're
saying
there's
going
to
be
noise
for
an
hour
the
last
hour
of
it,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
little
things
that
we're
just
questioning
but
the
noise
from
the
meat
packing
plant.
R
We
don't
have
any
of
that
from
those
trucks
they're
just
driving
by
that
doesn't
disturb
us
at
all.
As
far
as
sound
traveling
out
there,
I
would
say,
distance
is
in
our
neck
of
the
woods
is
not
what
determines
where
the
sound's
going
to
end.
I
can
hear
people's
full
conversations
at
least
a
half
a
mile
from
me,
which
I
I
guess
a
conversation
is
I,
don't
know,
50
to
60
decibels,
a
truck
idling
or
a
compressor
at
80
to
90.
R
I'm,
going
to
hear
that,
and
if
that's
going
for
an
hour
during
the
evening
when
I'm
trying
to
enjoy
my
patio
or
something
I'm
not
going
to
be
happy
about
that
I
think
a
dirt
burn
would
help
a
lot
no
vegetation
on
it.
I
don't
think
that's
too
much
to
ask,
and
as
far
as
turning
in
and
out
on
kinamura
Road
just
to
describe
for
you
where
this
is
It's
hilly,
it's
a
no
passing
zone.
A
AA
Foreign,
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
the
questions
that
you
asked.
It's
been
great
conversation.
It
sounds
like
we
ultimately
agree
on
the
fire
risks
and
the
recommendations
from
the
Idaho
Fire
Marshal
I
didn't
hear
anything
major
that
would
prevent
us
from
pursuing
those
recommendations.
AA
I'm
not
as
familiar
with
the
pipeline
Hazard
material
Association
that
the
applicant
referenced
but
I
think
the
federal
and
state
Idaho
fire
Idaho
State
Fire
code
would
be
most
impactful
if
we
could
follow
those
guidelines
and
ensure
that
is
conditional
to
talk
up
a
little
bit
more
about
the
traffic
and
that
concern
and
the
number
of
trucks
I
think
many
of
our
concerns
would
be
appropriately
addressed.
If
we
can
look
at
the
number
of
trucks
that
they're
requiring
and
maintaining
that
at
three
as
well
as
the
operation
during
the
daylight
hours.
AA
That
really
does
mitigate
a
lot
of
our
concerns
about
the
light
and
the
sound
that
might
be
carrying
on
into
the
evening
hours
I'm
a
little
perplexed
by
the
5
to
15.
That
planning
and
zoning
herd
of
the
number
of
trucks
that
they
wanted
to
to
use
were
pleasantly
surprised
by
three.
We're
happy
with
three
that
that
does
reduce
a
lot
of
our
concerns
about
the
traffic,
but
I,
don't
know
what
what
might
happen
if
we
all
walk
out
of
here
and
six
months
into
operation
or
a
year
into
operation.
That
number
is
15.
AA
that
that
piece
is
a
little
concerning
to
us.
So
we
would
feel
very
comfortable
with
a
three
limit
or
or
even
in
that
five
range,
something
that
is
smaller,
that
guarantees
that
there
will
be
minimized,
impacts
on
the
sound
and
the
traffic
concerns
that
we
have
going
back
to
achd.
I
did
speak
with
the
planning
supervisor
about
our
request
for
locating
the
entrance
on
Pleasant,
Valley,
Planning
and
Zoning
didn't
feel
that
they
had
the
authority
to
make
a
condition
related
to
achd's
comments.
AA
Achd
had
the
position
that
Planning
and
Zoning
did
have
that
Authority
and
they
could
not
make
a
requirement,
but
they
could
propose
those
that
temporary
option
and
the
long-term
option.
So
so
we
would
like
to
see
that
that
long-term
option
be
pursued
tonight
and
kind
of
settle,
settle
that
confusion
that
we
had
heard
going
back
to
sort
of
that.
AA
North
Stout
South
stop
sign
on
Pleasant
Valley
if
the
trucks
are
coming
from
Nampa
and
they're
traveling
on
cunamora
towards
the
east
towards
the
site,
if
they're
making
that
right
hand
turn
lane,
they
are
coming
to
that
intersection
where
cars
are
expecting
them
to
turn.
There's
also
rumble
strips
coming
up
to
the
stop
sign
on
Pleasant
Valley
going
north.
That
would
help
that
cross
traffic.
AA
If
they
are
coming
towards
from
the
north,
the
north
side
of
Pleasant
Valley
going
south,
they
will
have
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
on
to
kunamora
road
to
go
there
so
that
that
does
create
a
little
bit
more
of
a
traffic
concern,
but
again
if
they
are
using
Pleasant
Valley.
That
really
mitigates
a
lot
of
that
and
again
number
of
trucks.
If
it's
3
or
15
that
that
makes
an
impact
there,
we
really
don't
know
if
they
will
expand
that
number
of
truck
I'll
expand
the
number
of
trucks.
AA
I
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
businesses
that
don't
have
an
intent
to
grow,
and
so
I
would
anticipate
that
that
number
would
they
would
want
to
increase
that
or
increase
the
hours
or
the
number
of
trucks
that
they
are
unloading
simultaneously.
There's
a
real,
distinct
differentiation
I
think
we
need
to
make
a
noise
related
to
the
trucks
coming
and
going
versus
the
compressor
as
Mike
mentioned.
It
really
is
the
compressor.
AA
It's
still
a
little
unclear
to
me
if
that
last
truck
coming
at
6,
30
or
7
is
going
to
go
through
that
decanting
process,
where
it
will
produce
the
hour
of
noise
between
10
and
11
at
night
or,
if
they're,
just
dropping
that
truck
off
and
waiting
until
the
morning
hours.
That
makes
a
difference
to
us
too,
and
then
again,
if
they
measure
that
sound
in
Michigan
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
why
we
couldn't
measure
it
here.
AA
It's
a
completely
different
environment
with
different
conditions,
not
a
lot
of
other
buildings
or
or
different,
mitigating
sound
barriers
that
we
could.
We
could
utilize.
So
I'd
also
like
to
ask-
and
this
may
be-
a
question
posed
for
Planning
and
Zoning
staff,
but
we'd
like
to
see
that
legal
document
that
they
prepared
as
a
response
to
our
appeal,
entered
as
part
of
the
application.
That
kind
of
provides
a
little
bit
of
confidence
for
us
that
they
they
will
stick
to
the
hours
of
operation
in
the
trucks
that
they
have
proposed.
A
Okay,
you
would
give
the
applicant
five
minute
rebuttal
if
you
want.
V
V
Just
to
clarify
the
last
truck
will
be
delivered,
we'll
deliver
a
trailer
at
seven
o'clock,
around
6
30
to
7
P.M,
that
trade
will
be
hooked
up
to
the
stanchion
pipe
and
it
will
start
draining,
and
normally
the
compression
kicks
on
the
last
30
to
60
Minutes
of
the
training
process
to
help
get
the
last
of
the
gas
out
of
the
trailer.
But
for
this
last
trailer
we're
going
to
let
it
drain.
Naturally,
the
compressor
will
not
turn
on
until
the
following
morning.
V
That's
when
the
compressor
will
turn
on
to
take
the
last
bit
of
gas
out,
so
there
will
not
be
a
compressor
after
seven
o'clock.
In
fact,
the
last
compressor
will
be
for
that
middle
trailer.
That
comes
at
you
know
around
12
30
to
1,
and
so
you
know
be
three
to
four
hours
to
drain
and
then
the
last
30
minutes
of
that
trailer
will
be
the
last
time
the
compressor
kicks
on
the.
V
When
that
first
truck
comes
at
seven
o'clock,
am
I
anticipate
it'll
it'll
get
kicked
on
at.
A
V
No
I
I,
we
wouldn't
object
to
that.
We
would
just
want
to
clarify,
because
you
know,
we've
had
this
discussion
about.
Okay,
what
is
a
truck?
Is
it
coming
or
is
it
going
or
is
it
picking
or
picking.
U
D
A
D
All
right
so
I
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
few
of
these
with
you,
so
they're
they're,
proposing
the
business
hours
eight
to
five,
your
proposed
business
hours
or
what
7
A.M
7
P.M.
V
No,
our
commission
is
in
our
proposal,
would
be
7
A.M
to
probably
about
11
p.m,
because
the
use
is
putting
the
gas
into
the
pipeline,
and
so
when
we
parked
that
last
trailer
at
seven
o'clock
P.M
it's
going
to
be
hooked
up
to
the
pipeline
and
it's
going
to
be
naturally
draining
without
use
of
light
or
the
compressor.
But
it's
going
to
be
naturally
draining
for
three
to
four
hours,
so
the
use
is
actually
going
to
be
going
until
you
know
10
or
11
pm.
V
C
So
so
as
a
follow-up
to
that
as
clarification,
so
if
you,
if
we
can
Define
that
you're
defining
use
versus
what
you
just
said
so
I
mean
seven
o'clock
is
really
the
end
of
the
noise.
If.
V
Yeah
and
and
Mr
chairman
and
and
commissioner
Daly,
the
the
the
compressor
is
going
to
be
the
end
of
the
compressor
is
going
to
be.
You
know
middle
afternoon,
potentially
the
but
the
the
no.
The
last
noise
will
be
that
last
truck
coming
in
around
seven
o'clock
P.M.
So
if,
if
there
was
a
condition
of
approval
that
you
know,
you
can't
use
the
compressor
after
seven
o'clock
P.M.
V
D
And
so
the
three
bullet
points
on
fire
safety
proposed
there
you're
amenable
to
and
you're.
V
We
so
for
the
fire
one
we
would.
We
would
recommend
the
Fire
Marshals,
the
fire
marshal
yeah,
the
Fire
Marshals
suggestions.
The
wording
on
the
appellants
is
a
little
bit
different
and
the
main
difference
is
number
two.
They
say
owner
applicant
to
secure
a
contract
where
the
fire
marshal
says
we
will
solicit
and
try
to
work
with
these
fire
districts
to
to
get
a
contract.
V
We
can't
force
these
fire
districts
to
make
a
contract
with
us,
and,
and
so
we
would
want
the
Fire
Marshals
condition
of
look
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
work
with
the
fire
districts,
we're
going
to
solicit
it,
we're
going
to
contact
them,
we're
going
to
try
to
get
that
type
of
a
contract,
but
if,
ultimately,
they
say
you're
out
of
the
taxing
district.
Why
would
we
help
you?
V
We
don't
want
to
be
Pro
prohibited
from
doing
this,
because,
because
of
a
fire
district.
D
D
Those
all
the
proposed
conditions
from
the
appellant
or
were
there
any
more
on
a
different
slide
Cameron
commissioner
I
believe
so
yeah.
Z
C
Mr,
chairman
I,
just
it
just
as
a
from
my
own
personal
thing
here,
just
back
to
what
we
were
just
talking
about
as
far
as
those
definitions,
it
would
be
useful
to
me
personally
to
actually
have
staff
get
table.
This
have
staff,
come
back
with
all
these
conditions
that
we're
talking
about.
So
we
can.
We
can
clearly
understand
what
those
are
yeah.
A
Well,
well,
yeah
we'll
do
that
if
we're
going
to
add
conditions
we
have
to,
we
have
to
review
the
conditions
that
we
suggest
that
the
staff
prepare
and
then
they'll
prepare
those
conditions
and
it'll
be
on
the
conditions
of
approval,
which
will
be
what
did.
Did
you
say
to
OBM.
Z
Z
A
A
To
tell
the
staff
what
we
need
to
what
what
would
be
what
would
be
going
after.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
A
Will
then
close
the
the
public
hearing
on
application,
22
2022,
zero,
two,
seven,
seven,
eight,
a
Valerie
Tim
Adam,
the
hearing
public
hearing
being
closed.
Now
the
commission
can
talk
well,
I,
think
I'm
going
to
kind
of
Kick
this
off
from
from
my
perspective,
and
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
that
and
hopefully
get
to
get
the
staff
to
I.
A
Think
the
the
applicant
has
has
offered
some
significant
concessions
to
ameliorate
the
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors
one
they're
they're
they're
they're
agreeable
to
a
limitation
on
on,
and
we
can
Define
that,
but
I
think
the
best
definition
is
five
deliveries.
Five
deliveries
a
day.
A
Don't
think,
there's
any
concern
at
all
about
about
lights,
because
we're
only
going
to
work
from
7
A.M
till
till
seven
seven
in
the
evening,
and
the
lights
are
maybe
in
daylight
savings
time
that
might
be
a
little
and
there'll
only
be
a
few
lights.
Just
as
a
as
a
driver
pulls
he
pulls
his
truck
into
the
to
the
project
and
hook
it
up.
I
think
we
can
limit
the
hours
of
the
compressor
to
from
from
7
A.M
7
P.M
I'd
be
amenable
to
that
to
limit
the
hours
of
the
compressor
to
seven.
A
A
Well,
I,
don't
think
the
access
the
access
is
is
I.
Think
the
the
applicant
made
a
pretty
good
case
that
they
would
mind
coming
off
Pleasant
Valley,
but
they
wanted
to
do
it
in
conjunction
with
the
other
other
partners
in
the
area.
Other
adjoining
properties
for
to
limit
the
cost.
I
would
agree
with
that.
So
anyway,
do
you
have
any.
D
Well,
but
share
I
think
you,
you
kind
of
honed
in
maybe
the
two
things
that
I
was
thinking
of
regarding
the
compressor
and
the
Fire
Marshals
brand
plan,
based
on
the
evidence,
I've
heard
I,
don't
find
a
lot
of
compelling
reasons
to
impose
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
this.
It's
it's
a
pretty
smaller
footprint
than
a
lot
of
these
projects
we
get
and
to
me,
the
concerns
about
noise
and
light
are
not
not
very
compelling
to
me
at
the
moment.
D
I
would
you
know
the
one
recommendation
I
might
have
would
be?
Is
that
we
put
in
a
one-year
review
process?
I
know
we've
done
that
for
other
other
projects,
where
we
don't
impose
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
the
conditions
of
approval,
but
we
come
back
in
a
year
and
see
if
the
applicants
are
living
up
to
their
word
and
there's
not
excessive
noise
and
light.
If
there
was,
we
could
revisit
additional
conditions
of
approval
at
the
time
and
we
could
possibly
even
include
you
know
revisiting
expansion
in
the
future.
D
If,
if
in
the
future,
they
want
to
come
back
and
expand
the
amount
of
service
they
offer
I
think
that's
an
appropriate
time
to
come
before
the
board
and
again,
if
they're
living
up
to
their
word,
what
they
discussed
in
the
meeting
and
there's
there's
no
issues
that
have
Arisen,
then
I
mean
I.
I
would
be
inclined
to
expand
it
so
again,
I
I
think
the
compressor,
putting
a
condition
in
there
right
now
from
7
A.M
to
7
P.M
is,
is
reasonable.
D
They've
asked
for
the
Fire
Marshals
plan
again
I
at
this
stage,
I'm
not
too
inclined
to
put
any
other
restrictions
on
and
I'm
open
to
removing
the
png's
additional
condition
of
approval
that
they
gave
to
staff.
If
we
have
a
maybe
one
year
review
period,
we
come
back
in
a
year
and
I
suspect
everything's
going
to
be
fine,
but
at
that
point
neighbors
could
weigh
in
again.
D
If
you
know
the
sound
and
light
has
been
a
nuisance
to
them,
and
then
we
could
look
at
additional
conditions
at
that
point
because
it
would
not
be
too
cost
prohibitive,
I
think,
once
this
project
is
developed
to
put
additional
fencing
or
a
dirt
berm
around
if,
if
need
be,
but
that's
where
I'm
at.
C
A
C
And
and
that's
where
I
was
going
next,
because
we
don't
want
to
put
a
one
year,
time
frame
and
they're,
not
even
operational
yet
so
when
they
become
Opera
a
Time
certain
from
when
they
become
operational,
so
it
could
be
two
years
from
could
be
five
years
from
now,
depending
on
when
you
become
operational
so
but
I
agree,
we
need
to
have
a
review
process,
but
that
condition
you
just
said
and.
Z
I'll
insert
just
quickly:
yes,
there
have
been
reviews
by
the
director
in
the
past
that
have
been
conditioned
versus
coming
to
the
board.
So
if
that's,
if
that's
the
will
of
the
board,
we
could
certainly
do
that.
I
guess
I
would
like
a
few
housekeeping
items
just
before
you
vote
to
table.
If
that's
allowed.
Z
To
do
I,
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
so.
Let's
see
if
I
can
I
got
it
right.
First
off
I
need
to
enter
some
exhibits,
so
my
presentation
was
18a,
the
appellants
presentation
was
19a
and
the
original
applicant's
presentation
was
20a,
so
those
exhibits
have
been
entered
into
the
record
and
then
a
review
of
the
conditions
you're
proposing
and
you
want
staff
to
craft
language.
Around
first
number
of
trucks
would
be
limited
to
five
deliveries
per
day.
No.
Z
Deliver
number
of
deliveries
per
day,
sorry,
five
per
day
hours
of
the
compressor
operation
are
limited
to
between
7
A.M
and
7
P.M.
We
want
to
include
the
recommendations
of
the
Idaho
State
Fire
Marshal,
as
a
condition
of
approval
to
the
original
applicant's
point.
Z
There
is
a
difference
in
that
recommendation
versus
what
the
appellant
has
requested
so
just
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
that
difference,
yeah,
okay
and
then
fourth,
a
two
review
by
the
director
from
I,
was
going
to
put
the
commencement
of
the
use
just
because
there's
kind
of
a
lot
that
goes
into
getting
this
up
and
running.
There's
a
building
permit
and
occupancy,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
Z
So
it
could
take
another
six
to
nine
months
for
this
to
actually
get
operational
in
terms
of
coming
for
a
building.
Permit
so
I
mean
all
the
concerns
of
traffic
and
noise,
and
things
like
that
wouldn't
really
start
until
the
use
had
an
occupancy
to
operate
with
so
to
do
two
years
when
that
could
take
them
two
years
to
even
get
off
the
ground
kind
of
doesn't
work
versus
the
commencement
of
the
use
is
when
we've
blessed
it.
The
building
department
said
you
can
go.
Do
this
they've
met
all
the
other
conditions
of
approval.
D
W
D
C
D
Z
I,
don't
think
that'd
be
a
very
effective
condition
chairman,
commissioner.
Only
in
that
it
doesn't
give
the
applicant
a
lot
of
predictability
in
terms
of
the
operation
of
their
use.
They
usually
like
to
know:
hey
I've
got
to
go
check
in
at
two
years.
If
the
board
could
pull
this
entitlement
at
any
point,
that's
generally
not
something
that
we
a
position
we
like
to
put
ourselves
in
so
I
would
recommend
either
two
years
from
the
date
of
the
final
decision
or
two
years
from
the
commencement
of
the
use
or.
D
So
I
didn't
anticipate
that
the
board
upon
review
would
terminate
their
conditional
use.
It
would
be
fairly
minimal,
sound
and
light
additional
conditions.
So
that
way
the
neighbors.
If
there
was
a
problem
with
lighting
or
sound,
the
neighbors,
wouldn't
have
to
wait
two
years
to
say
well.
Can
we
have
a
berm?
Z
These
yeah
and
then
the
final
condition
that
commissioner
Davidson
added
is
that
removal
of
the
condition
requiring
the
applicant
to
work
with
staff
to
develop
screening
and
fencing
for
sound.
A
Z
And
I
can
I
can
reread
them
for
you
if
you'd,
like
so
I,
make
sure
access
point
yeah,
so
the
conditions
again
limited
to
five
deliveries:
maximum
per
day
hours
of
compressor,
7
A.M
to
7
P.M
the
recommendations
of
the
Iowa
State
Fire
Marshal,
incorporated
as
a
condition
of
approval,
a
two-year
review
by
the
director
from
the
commencement
of
the
use
and
removal
of
condition.
Number
three
placed
upon
the
project
by
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission.
A
They'd
have
to
get
come
back
for
for
more
deliveries
per
day.
Okay,
that's
your
motion.
A
They'll
give
they'll
give
us
the
predict,
the
all
those
will
be
written
up
on
26th.
Do
we
have
a
second
of
that
motion?
Second,
okay.
You've
earn
a
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries
unless
there's
any
further
business
we're
being
recess.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.