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A
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
welcome
everybody's
everybody
to
tonight's
public
hearing
before
we
get
started,
please
turn
off
your
cell
phones
or
other
electronic
devices
to
avoid
any
any
interruptions.
If
you're
planning
on
presenting
testimony,
please
sign
in
the
sheet
in
the
back
of
the
hearing
room.
A
Okay
today
is
Wednesday
the
ninth
day
of
August.
The
time
is
six
o'clock.
The
time
is
set
for
our
public
hearing.
All
three
Commissioners
are
present.
Are
there
any
change
to
the
agenda?
Man,
clerk,
no.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
First
item
on
our
business
is
some
unfinished
business.
I
guess
we
need
to
to
remove
the
unfinished
business
from
the
table.
Mr.
C
A
Okay,
you
heard
the
motion
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
motion
carries
all
right
now.
I
understand,
there's
been
a
request
by
the
applicant
to
table
this
until
the
13th
of
September.
Is
that
correct
Richard?
Yes,.
D
A
Okay,
you've
heard
the
motion:
is
there
any
discussion?
Hearing,
no
no
favors
say
all
right.
All
right.
All
right
motion
carries
all
right.
Next
up,
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
20230565
v
c:
u
Dash,
MSP
Diamond,
Lawns,
LLC,
hello,
Karen,
being
open,
we'll
first
hear
from
our
staff.
Corey
branding
go
ahead;
Cory.
F
There
are
two
parts
to
the
application,
the
first
being
the
contractor's
yard
for
the
landscaping
business.
This
is
located
on
the
southern
portion
of
the
property
closest
to
Amity
Road
The
Proposal
includes
utilizing
the
existing
home
as
an
office
and
the
other
existing
structures
for
storage
of
equipment.
The
hours
of
operation
would
be
from
7
A.M
to
10
p.m.
There
are
32
parking
spaces
provided
for
employees
and
potential
visitors
as
conditioned
a
contractor's
yard
in
this
zone
is
only
approved
for
five
years.
F
At
a
time
or
until
annexed,
there
are
two
variances
associated
with
the
storage
facility.
Application
one
is
to
allow
the
site
to
exceed
the
maximum
site
coverage
of
20
percent.
The
storage
facility
itself
is
less
than
20
percent.
However,
in
combination
with
the
existing
structures
that
are
to
be
used
for
the
contractor's
yard,
it
exceeds
the
overall
maximum
site
coverage
that
is
mentioned
in
our
code.
F
F
The
other
variance
is
to
allow
the
storage
facility
to
be
within
100
feet
of
residential
property
lines.
The
properties
again
to
the
east
and
west
are
currently
vacant
with
no
current
development
proposals
that
have
been
brought
to
Ada
County.
The
drive
aisle
of
the
facility
on
the
Northern
property
line
is
within
the
100
feet
boundary.
However,
the
actual
parking
stalls
are
outside
of
that
100
feet
and
again.
The
facility
is
only
approved
for
five
years
at
a
time
or
until
annexed
into
the
city.
F
D
F
A
G
Good
evening,
good
evening,
my
name
is
Jake
Gifford
I'm,
the
owner
of
diamond
Lawns,
I
Corey
covered
it
I
just
wanted
to.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
time.
Thanks
Corey
and
Ada
County
for
working
with
them,
they're
always
they're
they're,
always
amazing
to
work
with
and
very
responsive,
so
I,
don't
have
anything
to
add.
I
think
she
got
most
of
it.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
anyone
here
in
opposition?
H
D
G
G
So
what
I'm
asking
is
is
just
to
delay
that,
where
it's
a
five-year
permit
only
just
to
delay
that
see,
what's
going
to
happen
with
those
empty
properties
before
we
go,
do
this
it's
like
half
a
mile
of
landscaping.
So
that's
that's!
What
I'm
asking
for
is
just
to
reduce
on
those
sides
that
are
vacant
anyways,
so.
D
A
A
Could
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record?
Yes,.
I
My
name
is
Gary
Warford,
my
wife
Carlene
is
here
also
and
I'd
live
at
4188
South
Nickel
Creek
Place
I'm
about
140
yards
from
my
backyard.
Looking
South
into
the
this
proposal
for
the
use,
permit
and
I've
been
gone
for
about
a
week
and
got
back
and
then
realized
when
the
sign
went
up.
I
What
was
going
on,
but
I've
watched
this
as
the
new
owner
took
over
and
it
seemed
like
you
know:
the
landscape
business
I'd
heard
that
a
landscaper
bought
it
and
watched
what
was
going
on
because
I,
you
know
in
and
out,
but
you
can
see
the
project
from
10
Mile
and
also
on
amnity,
and
then,
when
you
turned
to
go
north
on
Nickel
Creek,
you
can
see
it
plain
as
day
and
it
turned
her
into
a
storage
yard
right
off
the
bat
they
started.
Moving
in
trailers
and
my
concerns.
I
The
this
homeowners
or
certification
meeting
I
wasn't
I,
never
got
a
letter.
That's
here
that
and
the
only
one
that
seemed
to
show
up
was
the
neighbor
that
owns
the
closest
neighbor
owns
all
the
property
down
to
from
from
the
west
side
of
10
mile
to
the
South
to
the
South
to
Hammond.
He
owns
that
property
there.
I
So
he's
got
skin
in
the
game
and
I'm
he's
the
only
one
registered
that
approved
this
project
or
or
signed
up
for
it,
but
I'm
a
small
businessman,
I
see
where
he's
coming
from
I'm
retired
businessman,
but
the
the
number
one
is
none
of
my
neighbors
that
I've
talked
to
and
I've
only
talked
about
half
of
my
neighborhood.
Nobody
was
informed
or
got
a
letter
or
anything
and
I
don't
know
on
the
side.
I
The
two
adjoining
neighborhoods,
the
one
on
the
South
Side,
there's
20
homes
there
and
there's
16
in
my
neighborhood
and
that's
and
there's
a
independent
one.
I
think
he's
got
about
five
acres.
So
it's
close
to
40
homes
impacted
by
this
and
my
concern
is
you
know
under
a
power
the
power
lines
there.
That's
a
high
voltage
line:
I,
don't
know
what
the
power
is,
but
if
the
drop
over
the
directly
over
the
home
is
about
30
feet
off
the
rooftop
and
I
know
it
was
probably.
I
This
was
grandfathered
in
and
the
line
was
built
after
the
fact.
But
my
concern
is
the
induction,
the
EMF
forces
from
those
power
lines
and
what
they
call
radiation.
Current
the
discharges
and
every
piece
of
metal
that
you
move
in
underneath
are
near
it.
The
proximity
of
those
lines
is
like
adds
to
a
giant
capacitor,
and
the
discharges
is
a
major
concern.
I
know
he's
moved
in
fuel
tanks
there
and
not
alone.
I
know.
Oklahoma
City
is
very
familiar
with
chemicals
and
fertilizers
and
that
being
stored.
I
But
I
don't
know
if
any
environmental
impact
soils
testing
has
been
done
before
he's
taken
over
if
he
complies
with
like
I,
say:
I'm
I'm,
a
small
businessman
I
give
him
and
his
brother
a
lot
of
credit
for
bills
on
a
business
up
and
as
long
as
they
comply
and
they're
good
neighbors
I'm
all
for
it.
But
you
know
off
the
get-go.
None
of
the
other
near
neighbors.
I
I
know
of
have
been
invited
to
this
the
meeting
so
the
storage,
the
problem
with
the
storage
is
the
biggest
issue
there
and
there's
no
controls
over
what
they
move
in
motorhomes,
whatever
they
all
have
fuel
of
some
type
propane
diesel
fuel,
gasoline
and
if
a
fire
was
not
accidentally
set
by
them,
but
natural,
lightning,
strikes
and
you're,
adding
fuel
underneath
that
power
line
and
you
it's
aluminum
wire
and
it's
Hollow
and
if
heat,
it's
only
30
feet
off
the
top
of
the
roof.
I
God
forbid,
if
anything,
caught
fire
and
burnt
the
house
down
the
Integrity
of
that
power
line
and
I,
don't
know
where
it
comes
from
which
direction
it's
going,
but
I
know
it's
high
voltage
and
so
fuel
storage
contamination,
the
environmental
impact
part
of
it.
If
there's
been
any
soil
tests
and
requirement
afterwards,
if
it's
approved
or
disapproved
that
you
know
that
something
yearly
because
I
have
to
on
my
my
environmental
for
my
septic
tank
I
got
to
comply
every
year
and
and
pay
to
have
that
survey.
So
that's
a
concern.
I
Mainly,
that's
the
the
main
points,
but
the
safety
in
Integrity
with
all
that
built
in
there
I,
don't
know
how
I'd
hope
power
looks
at
this.
You
know,
but
the
ad
knew
something
new,
that's
going
to
add
fuel
to
potential
of
a
disaster.
I
don't
know
if
I'd
want
my
name
put
on
anything
and
I
know:
there's
plenty
of
storage
down
on
the
Meridian.
I
The
forefathers
that
built
that
Meridian
out
to
Cuna
were
very
smart,
but
I
know
they
wanted
a
Tarn
Federal
when
Boeing
didn't
build
a
plant
there,
but
now
their
plaques
should
go
up
and
their
name
should
be
on
plaques
because
they
did
a
great
job.
So
anyway,
my
time's
up
I
just
asked
that
this
we
tabled.
If
we
can
and
I
want
to
survey
my
neighbors
two
of
them
were
out
on
business.
I
I
Yeah
I'm
I'm,
almost
North
he's
about
a
it's
139
yards
or
40
yards
to
the
corner.
I
checked
it
with
my
handy
dandy,
Rangefinder.
I
Property
on
the
other
side,
right
on
the
edge
of
this
map:
okay,
yeah
and
all
my
neighbors
that
two
of
them
on
each
side
of
me
are
gone
on.
Business
and
I
know:
there's
storage,
the
old
eggplant,
that's
on
Meridian,
there's
lots
of
room
there
for
storage
and
motorhomes
and
they've
got
beautiful
access
inside
and
out
my
neighbor.
That
I
did
talk
to
that's
two
doors
to
the
west
east
of
me.
She
almost
got
hit
by
some
commercial
vehicles
and
she
wasn't
able
to
come
or
she'd.
Tell
you
her
story
about
added
traffic.
I
That's
and
you
got
people
pulling
trailers
in
and
out
of
there,
and
you
know
just
more
and
more
and
that
that
roundabout
is
well
in
two
or
three
weeks
of
it.
When
I
turned
it
open,
there's
been
so
many
accidents
and
they
put
gravel
in
the
easements
there.
So
people
running
off
the
road
there
was
gravel
there
forever
matter.
Of
fact,
some
of
it's
never
been
repaired,
the
curbing
is
still
broken
and
there
was
two
accidents.
I
Last
week
there
that
I
know
of
but
I
know
the
eggplants
got
plenty
of
room
down
there
and
I
I.
Don't
mind
them
trying
to
expand
their
business,
their
businessmen,
but
I
think
this
is
a
bad
deal
and
potentially
the
hazards
are
tremendous.
If
something
was
to
go
wrong
there,
naturally
with
lightning
strikes,
and
it's
going
all
the
fuel
tanks
that
are
there
right.
D
You
stated
that
so
all
right,
let
me
just
ask
a
couple
questions,
so
let
me
let
me
start
with
staff
and
I'll
just
bring
up
the
neighborhood
notification
issue.
What
is
the
and
this
is
for
our
staff?
What's
the
radius
and
what
information
do
we
have
that
people
within
the
radius
were
contacted
and.
E
I
H
E
E
D
D
D
I
I
understand
that
okay,
I
didn't
know
that
settles
that
point,
but
you
think
we
would
have
because
there's
nothing
there
I
look
at
it.
Every
time,
I
go
out
my
backyard
and,
like
I
say
from
the
very
beginning
it
looked
like
he
just
you
know
it
wasn't
only
a
story.
You
know
he's
using
a
storage
yard
and
I
was
assuming
hey,
the
county
was
gonna
either
ticket
him
or
something
to
stop
what
was
going
on
and
he
was
exceeding
his
business.
I
mean
this
is
added
to
his
business
and
he
wants
to
make
more
money.
D
D
Me
talk
to
staff
again
and
just
address
the
issue
of
the
power
lines.
So
what
does
staff
know
about
this
power
line
and
is
it
meeting
regulation?
Is
it
grandfathered
in
where
is
it
located?
It's
right.
F
F
F
Chairman
commissioner,
Davidson
I
am
not
currently
aware
of
the
location
of
the
closest
fire
hydrant,
the
city
of
Meridian
fire
department
generally,
when
responding
does
look
at
that.
But
I
don't
know
where
that
is
closest
located.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
I
think
that's
all
I
had
at
the
moment.
C
C
F
Chairman
commissioner
Daly,
this
is
the
first
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing
you
might
be
referring
to
what
we
call
a
neighborhood
meeting
that
is
required
of
the
property
owner
prior
to
submitting
an
application,
and
that
notification
is
also
300
feet.
Something
is
mailed
out
to
those
Property
Owners
inviting
them
to
the
neighborhood
meeting,
so
the
applicant
can
explain
what
they're
going
to
submit
and
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
C
J
My
name
is
Brady
catherman
I'm
at
4255,
South,
Nickel
Creek,
basically,
in
the
same
place,
just
kind
of
down
the
street
from
where
Gary
was
I
only
had
really
three
concerns,
one
that
kind
of
came
up
as
we're
we're
talking.
One
is
addressed
in
the
the
actual
application
which
I
only
figured
out
when
I
did
my
homework
15
minutes
before
the
meeting,
which
is
the
standard,
but
if
the
fence
is
pretty
good
at
blocking
visibility,
which
was
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
recommend.
The
other
thing
I
noticed
was.
J
The
lighting
is
defined
as
just
flood
lighting,
with
no
no
screening
or
any
kind
of
like
a
limitation
on.
What's
going
to
be
illuminated,
that
area
has
been
pretty
dark
in
the
past.
It's
pretty
nice
because
you
can
see
out
over
the
valley
and
stuff
like
that,
and
that's
my
view.
Basically
straight
out
of
the
front
of
my
house.
It'd
be
nice,
like
I'm
I'm,
not
concerned
about,
like
actually
having
lighting.
That's
an
obvious
requirement.
If
you're
going
to
have
that
much
equipment
and
stuff
out
there,
but
it'd
be
really
nice.
J
If
there
was
some
kind
of
restriction
on
just
making
sure
it's
not,
you
know
Illuminating
the
sky,
something
like
dark
sky.
You
know
basic
limitations
on
that,
so
it's
not
so
visible
from
far
away
and
then
the
only
the
other
comment
that
I
was
going
to
make
is
even
though
I
don't
I'm
not
really
concerned
about
the
Landscaping
on
the
east
and
west
side.
J
Even
though
that's
my
direct
view
of
the
the
property
because,
just
like
they
said
it's,
it's
open
field
right
now,
it's
basically
weeds,
but
it
would
be
nice
if,
if
there
was,
you
know,
commitment
or
something
to
just
mow
it
down,
because
that
field
has
burned
down
in
the
past
and
you
know,
obviously,
if
it
burns
right
up
to
the
fence,
then
be
unfortunate.
So
if
nothing
else
that'd
be
the
only
only
real
concern
that
I'd,
you
know
bring
up
there.
J
D
I'll
ask
a
question
to
staff
as
far
as
overgrown,
weeds
or
anything
like
that,
would
that
not
just
fall
under
our
general
code
enforcement
Provisions
nuisance
general
rules
regarding
you
know,
yards
and
Landscaping
yeah.
E
Mr
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Dave
so
that'd
be
correct.
Yeah
I
couldn't
force
would
check
out
weeds
that
would
violate
that
County
ordinances.
D
And
again,
just
as
a
general
comment,
our
code
enforcement
doesn't
drive
around
looking
for
weeds.
We
generally
work
on
a
citizen
complaint
basis
and
then,
as
far
as
the
lighting
goes,
is
it
it
doesn't
give
any
specifics
on
the
lighting
in
the
in
the
proposed
report.
F
Chairman
commissioner
Davidson
there
actually
is
a
condition
of
approval.
The
applicant
will
be
required
to
submit
an
updated
lighting
plan
that
has
the
floodlights
that
are
sensor
activated
and
with
full
cutoff
Shields,
as
required
by
Ada
County
code.
J
D
A
Code
most
activating
shielding,
okay,
perfect!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
sir
okay.
Is
there
anyone
else
that
needs
to
testify,
not
we'll
let
the
applicant,
if
you'd
like
to
rebut
anything,
you're
welcome
to.
G
So
I
figured
I'd
better
just
address
a
couple
things
that
they
had
the
weeds
in
the
fields.
Those
are
those
are
not
my
Fields.
Those
are
my
neighbors,
so
I
also
have
the
same
concern
but
they're
joining
properties.
I,
don't
have
any
control
over
them.
G
The
power
lines
are
not
my
favorite
thing.
They're
Idaho
power's
main
power
lines.
They
go
over
the
top.
It's
probably
why
nobody
wanted
to
buy
this
property.
G
I
did
have
Idaho
Power
come
out
and
double
check
their
grounding
double
check
it
because
you
can
hear
them.
You
can
hear
them
buzzing,
but
they're
giant
main
power
lines,
so
I
had
Idaho
Power
come
out
and
do
a
double
check
on
it.
Just
for
the
safety
of
my
employees,
so
I
hear
that
concern
and
I
understand
it.
D
G
These
are
big
giant
main
overhead
lines
that
Idaho
Powers
put
in
years
ago
that
just
cut
across
like
the
very
front
of
the
property.
They
they
literally
go
over
the
house,
there's
not
even
a
poll
on
my
property,
it's
like
on
each
property
line
and
it's
spanning
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
they
are
150
feet
in
the
air
or
something.
G
Yeah
well,
the
house
and
the
shop
are
kind
of
right
there,
so
they
go
over
both
of
them.
Okay,
but
they're
they're,
a
long
ways
up
there
and
I
had
Idaho
Power
come
out
and
double
check
them
just
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
the
employees
were
safe
with
them.
G
D
G
A
You
guys,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Is
there
any
questions
of
of
Corey
before
we
close
the
hearing
nope,
if
not
I'll,
close
the
public
hearing
and
application
2023-00565
VCU
MSP
at
Diamond
lawns?
D
Well,
Mr,
chair,
I
can
I'll
make
a
motion
and
then
we
can
discuss
I'm
going
to
move
to
approve
application
number.
D
202-300-565-V-Cu
Dash
MSP,
Diamond,
Lawns,
LLC
and
I
think
with
with
that
I'm
willing
to
Grant
the
request
to
just
have
a
covered
fence
as
opposed
to
a
landscaping
plan
on
the
the
East
and
the
West.
C
This
Gemini
I.
Second,
the
motion
and
just
some
comments.
One
is
it's
a
fi,
it's
only
a
five-year
condition
and
it's
going
to
be
reviewed
within
five
years.
That's
the
first
thing.
So
any
of
these
issues
that
may
come
up
I
think
the
questions
of
lighting,
the
fire
hydrant,
the
water
on
the
property,
I
think
the
major
issues,
safety
in
terms
of
Idaho
Power,
has
reviewed
it
for
safety
purposes.
C
As
far
as
the
electrical
line,
I
think,
the
major
issues
that
have
been
race
tonight
have
been
addressed,
and
so
I
would.
Second,
the
motion.
A
All
right,
the
motion
is
moving
second
and
approve
the
application.
Two
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
five,
six
five.
The
question
is:
this
is
not
to
be
reviewed.
In
five
years
a
whole
new
application
will
need
to
be
handled
correct.
It's
not
just
just
a
staff
level
review.
A
A
It'll
be
reviewed,
of
course,
start
over
again
in
essence.
Okay,
so
you've
heard
the
motion,
then,
with
the
findings,
facts
and
conclusions
of
law.
I'd
call
for
the
question
all
in
favor
say:
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
curious.
Thank
you.
B
A
A
K
202300-225-Zc-D-A-V
Dash
MSP
as
before
you
we
got
applicant,
is
urban
Solutions
LLC
a
vicinity
map
here
just
showing
the
property
we're
talking
about
it's
off
of
Chinden
Boulevard,
just
west
of
Highway
16..
K
So
this
is
a
zoning
ordinance
map,
Amendment
and
development
agreement
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
rut
District
to
the
the
C2
or
the
community
commercial
District,
alongside
a
variants
to
request
relief
from
setbacks
and
a
master's
site
plan
for
a
self-service
storage
facility.
A
property
is
addressed
at
7015
West
China
Boulevard
contains
8.83
Acres.
K
So
the
applicant
proposes
to
operate
this
facility,
which
will
include
10
storage
buildings
consisting
of
approximately
359
total
units,
and
this
is
based
on
their
their
submittal
that
got
a
recommended
approval
on
by
the
planning
zoning
commission.
The
units
will
rage
in
size,
from
smallest
to
10
feet
in
width
by
10
feet
in
depth
to
the
largest
at
12
feet
in
width
by
30
feet
in
depth.
In
addition,
there
will
be
two
covered
parking
buildings
here
in
the
in
the
middle
they'll,
be
constructed
to
allow
for
96
total
covered
parking
spaces.
K
Each
space
will
be
12
feet
in
width
by
40
feet
in
depth.
The
property
will
also
include
an
office
building
here
in
the
southwest
corner
725
square
feet,
and
that
will
be
right
by
the
the
main
entrance
there,
which
you
see
is
the
the
red
arrow
there's
four
parking
spaces
that
are
proposed
and
dry
vials
are
included
throughout
the
site,
as
I
mentioned,
that
that
main
entrance
there
is
off
of
a
proposed
collector
roadway
that
the
highway
district
proposes
and
their
their
master
plan.
K
K
Hours
of
operation
for
the
site
are
proposed
to
be
7
A.M
to
7
P.M
all
days
of
the
year
that
there
was
a
natural
features,
analysis
that
was
required
as
part
of
this
application.
It
did
not
show
that
you
know
this
use
would
be
a
significant
detriment
to
the
natural
features
of
the
site.
There
was
a
parking
plan
that
was
included
for
that
office
as
well,
that
meets
the
the
code
requirements.
There
was
also
a
landscaping
plan
that
was
submitted,
I.
Believe,
let's
see
if
I
go
through
here,
the
Landscaping
plan
that
was
provided.
K
Let's
see
if
I
go
back
to
the
site
plan
here,
as
I
mentioned.
There's
a
variance,
that's
included,
to
encroach
into
the
side
yard
setback
here
on
the
Eastern
property
line.
They
plan
to
build
right
up
against
the
property
line.
It
is
a
20-foot
setback
that
is
required
there,
because
it
abuts
a
residential
property,
a
Zone
residential
property.
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
that
variance
staff
does
find
that
this
variance
would
would
be
a
special
ride
or
privilege
if
it
was
approved.
K
It
also
does
not
relieve
an
undue
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site.
So
that's
how
staff
sees
it
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
they?
They
were
not
reviewing
the
variants,
they
just
reviewed
the
rezone
and
the
master
site
plan.
So
you
would
decide
on
the
variance
tonight.
K
K
It
does
designate
the
site
as
a
mixed
use,
interchange
which
states
that
uses
are
to
be
compatible
with
the
impacts
of
a
freeway
interchange
and
are
not
intended
for
high
volume
uses
such
as
retail,
as
I
mentioned
that
Highway
16
runs
north
south.
If
you
recall
it's
going
to
go
further
south
all
the
way
to
I-84,
so
as
the
proposed
use
for
a
self-service
storage
facility
will
generate
108
vehicle
trips
per
day
with
19
trips
in
the
PMP
hour.
K
It
is
not
a
high
volume
traffic
generator
and,
as
such,
the
zoning
designation
of
C2
is
compatible
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
However,
the
mixed
use-
interchange
also
states
that
future
uses
should
be
planned
to
integrate
with
a
frontage,
backage
road
type
circulation
that
would
run
on
the
southern
boundary
going
East-West
so
because
of
that
proposed
Road
type.
K
The
self-service
storage
facility
would
not
be
in
compliance
with
that
proposed
roadway
by
the
city
of
meridian's
comp
plan
and
therefore
it
is
not
compatible
with
the
future
land
use
math
for
the
city
of
Meridian,
Ada,
County,
Planning
and
Zoning
commission.
They
did
recommend
approval
on
this
project,
as
they
felt
that
the
city
of
meridian's
request
for
the
site
to
remain
available
for
the
highest
and
best
use.
It's
not
a
good
reason
to
deny
the
project.
K
Let's
see
here
so
if
I
go
forward.
There
are
some
agency
comments
here
from
the
city
of
Meridian
I'm,
going
to
include
their
most
recent
comments
here,
we're
just
from
a
couple
days
ago.
K
K
They
have
concerns
regarding
that
Frontage
and
package
row
that
they
would
like
to
see
along
the
the
southern
property
line
that
would
run
east
to
west.
It
would
provide
access
to
all
these
properties,
so
they
don't
have
to
access
Chinden
Boulevard
and
that's
one
of
their
main
concerns
talked
about
how
the
the
facility
it's
proposed
to
be
walled
off.
It,
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
that
access
to
and
from
thank
you
so
I'll
provide
this
to
you.
This
was
provided
by
the
city
of
Meridian
on
August
4th.
K
That
exhibit
is
from
the
city.
Meridian
exhibit
50.,
it's
just
a
reiteration
of
what
they've
said
in
their
their
previous
letters.
How
they're
recommend
denial
of
the
project-
let's
see
here,
so
that
that
was
the
city
of
Meridian.
K
As
I
stated,
there's
been
re
different
reiterations
of
the
site
plan,
this
site
plan,
if
you
wanna
yeah.
Thank
you.
This
site
plan
here
is
what
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
recommended
approval
on.
So
it
shows
that
new
entrance
there
down
on
the
southwest
corner.
K
The
applicant
has
since
then
provided
a
new
and
most
recent
site
plan
that
they
would
like
to
see
where
they've
moved.
The
the
most
northern
storage
buildings
closer
to
Chinden
Boulevard
itd
is
is
against
this
a
request.
The
applicant
can
talk
about
this
whole
situation,
but
essentially
they've
got
some
information.
The
itd
told
them
that
they
thought
they
could
move
the
storage
buildings
closer
than
what
was
in
the
previous
plan.
K
A
K
Chairman
Beck
commissioner
Davidson
yeah,
so
as
I
stated,
their
main
concern
is
that
Frontage
and
package
Road,
as
as
I
mentioned,
a
road
that
would
run
east
to
west.
Each
of
those
properties
are
supposed
to
based
on
their
future
land
use
map,
take
access
off
of
that
roadway,
as
opposed
to
Chinden
Boulevard.
They
also
in
their
original
letters,
stated
that
this
is
not
the
highest
and
best
use
for
the
property.
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
had
some
thoughts
and
concerns
with
that
language.
K
They
mentioned
how
let's
see
here
that
there's
some
issues
with
the
water
and
sewer
districts.
So
this
property,
even
though
it's
within
meridian's
impact
area,
it's
not
within
meridian's
within
their
water
district.
So
there
was
some
currents
they
had
concerns.
They
have
about
just
availability
of
water
and
sewer
to
the
site
and
being
able
to
have
adequate
fire
flows.
I
I
guess
and
are.
D
K
D
You
know
what
the
other
sort
of
buildings
are
and
the
surrounding
lots
and
what
what's
going
on
there
now
yeah.
K
So
chairman
back
commissioner
Davidson-
that
was
one
of
the
requests
by
the
applicant,
for
this
variance
is
that
you
know
they.
They
stated
that
there's
no
other
residential
uses
around
this
property
or
or
any
uses
proposed
or
any
applications
at
this
time
there
it's
a
pretty
vacant
area.
There
was
some
sort
of
residential
building
that
has
since
been
removed,
I
believe
it's
not
been
used
as
a
residence,
so
yeah
as
of
now
it's
just
agricultural
fields.
At
this
time
to
the
west,
south
and
east.
K
There
was
some
comments
provided
by
the
owner
of
the
property
that
surrounds
this
to
the
East
and
the
South
that
they
would
like
to
see
those
setbacks
retained.
They
have
some
concerns
there,
with
the
buildings
being
built
right
up
against
the
property
line
so
yeah.
Hopefully
that
answers
your
questions
and.
K
Commissioner
Davidson,
as
of
now,
this
area
that
you
kind
of
see
is
brown.
This
is
the
city
of
stars,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
current
you
know
what's
currently
proposed
there,
but,
but
that
is
within
the
city
limits.
I
would
assume
that
there
will
be
development
there
moving
forward,
but
yeah.
The
the
other
properties
here,
there's
as
of
now
they're,
just
more
residential
in
nature,
fairly
large
Lots.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions.
No,
where
is
the
city
of
star
where's,
the
the
not
just
the
area
of
impact,
but
the
actual
city
of
star
for
the
in
relation
to
this
property?
Yes,.
K
K
K
City
of
star,
can
you
see
my
cursor.
A
K
K
Miles
yeah,
just
on
the
other
side
of
highway
Highway
16.,
okay,.
A
All
right,
well,
I,
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Unless
do
you
have
any
questions
or
anybody
else?
Okay?
Well,
thank
you.
Connor
yep,
okay
is
the
applicant
here
would
like
to
speak.
Oh,
go
ahead.
F
L
The
application
before
you
today
is
an
eight
acre
parcel
located
on
Highway
2026
I
know
Connor's
gone
through
the
the
high
level
we've
received
initial
comment.
Letters
from
the
agencies
involved
and
we've
had
multiple
pre-application
meetings
with
both
Ada
County
and
city
of
Meridian
staff.
Two
please.
L
L
The
mixed
use:
interchange
overlay,
surrounds
the
highway
16
2026
area
and
favors
low
traffic
proposals
with
mixed
use
and
light
industrial
commercial
uses.
The
parcel
is
about
it
to
the
South
with
medium
density
residential.
This
parcel
is
quite
literally
the
furthest
parcel
from
the
highway
16
interchange
with
the
mixed-use,
interchange,
overlay.
L
L
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
there
is
an
additional
Access
Road
planned,
much
closer
to
Highway
16
that
runs
parallel
to
this
collector
road
called
Owyhee,
storm,
Avenue
and
I'll
cover
that
further.
In
my
presentation,
the
site
plan
has
been
revised
to
allow
for
the
signalizing
of
the
residential
collector
road.
We've
pushed
the
main
entrance
back
to
the
south
in
compliance
with
the
achd
site-specific
conditions.
This
was
a
topic
in
the
Planning
and
Zoning
hearing,
and
this
site
plan
reflects
what
was
requested.
L
I
would
like
to
note
that
we
have
been
in
communication
with
three
members
of
the
Idaho
Transportation
Department
staff
regarding
any
site
plan
conditions
or
any
comment
they
have
and
we
finally
got
something
from
them.
It
is
I
believe
right
at
the
top
of
your
packet
regarding
the
2026
expansion
that
they're
planning.
L
Let's
go
to
slide
five,
please
thank
you.
These
are
just
a
few
exhibits
showing
our
proposed
elevation
and
Design.
Six
is
great.
Please
Corner.
We
did
take
comments
in
pre-application
meeting
with
Meridian
and
County
staff
and
we
integrated
them
into
our
overall
look.
We
broke
up
the
elevation
to
include
parapets,
mimicking,
store,
Frontage,
staff's
request
materials
and
elevations
submitted
matched
similarly
built
and
approved
facilities.
Within
a
few
miles
of
this
location,
we
are
proposing
an
on-site
well
in
septic
to
support
the
office
and
the
fire
requirements.
L
We
are
actually
in
the
Starfire
District
districts
of
fire
and
and
City
tend
to
not
match
up,
so
we
have
met
with
with
their
staff
and
received
their
comment.
Letters
as
well
for
fire
suppression
needs
and
safety,
and
we
do
look
forward
to
our
eventual
rezone
into
the
city
of
Meridian
when
the
time
comes
slide.
L
Seven,
please
I'd
like
to
address
what
I
call
the
elephant
in
the
room
staff
comment:
letters
from
long
range,
planner,
Caleb,
Hood
I,
believe
he
is
in
the
room
tonight
at
least
that's
what
we're
told
we
did
meet
with
city
of
Meridian
staff
on
two
occasions
prior
to
meeting
with
County
staff.
L
L
L
L
The
sole
purpose
of
the
collector
road
is
to
allow
for
Access
away
from
Highway
26
and
for
future
development
of
the
surrounding
area
and
we're
happy
to
receive
additional
design
comments
or
feedback,
but
we
have
not
had
anything
specific
other
than
what
is
in
these
letters
tonight
slide
nine.
Please
there's
a
couple
of
quotes.
There's
a
slide
mine,
there's
a
couple
of
quotes
from
the
Meridian
staff
letter
from
May
of
2023
that
this
application
is
harmful
to
the
city's
Vision
it
produce.
It
is
a
product
that
consumes
acreage
intended
for
jobs.
It
is
not
job-based.
L
The
use
in
this
location
is
unlikely
to
ever
be
ideal.
These
comments
lead
me
to
believe
that
staff
are
in
support
of
any
application
whatsoever.
It
doesn't
fit
in
with
future
development.
The
subject
walls
off
adjacent
development
while
also
restricts
access,
except
we
are
creating
connectivity
with
a
partial,
collector
Road
built
out.
The
letter
is
a
complete
180
from
our
previous
letter,
and
now
the
focus
is
on
employment
goals
for
the
city,
my
one
acre
or
excuse
me
my
eight
acre
parcel
with
one
application
now
Bears
the
burden
of
employment
for
this
entire
field.
L
L
During
our
discussions
with
the
city
of
Meridian,
at
no
point
in
time
has
an
employment
center
been
discussed
prior
to
this
letter,
but
we
can't
have
a
high
traffic
count
either
and
we're
supposed
to
be
mixed
use,
and
it
seems
the
intent
is
to
deter
growth
completely
and
being
a
small
local
owner
operator
with
no
staff.
It
seems
to
me
that
I'm
now
being
targeted
with
any
and
all
argument
to
achieve
denial
of
my
application,
it
seems
that
they,
just
simply
don't
like
storage
facilities.
L
The
arguments
being
made
are
examples
of
government
overreach
and
an
attempt
to
put
a
pause
button
on
growth.
Self-Storage
facilities
comply
with
commercial
zoning,
and
this
application
requests
a
C2
Zone
to
comply
with
a
mixed-use
overlay.
The
city
has
in
place.
This
application
is
also
in
compliance
with
Ada
County
zoning
code.
L
L
L
This
is
where
we
note
the
Hawaii
storm
Avenue
build
out,
which
is
a
a
larger
collector
road
that
will
add.
Connectivity
from
gosh
looks
like
Ustick
all
the
way
out
to
Highway
2026,
so
the
black
dot
is,
is
our
parcel
and
there
will
be
a
residential
collector
road
on
the
west,
and
then
we've
got
another
connection
between
our
location
and
Highway
16
that
takes
a
to
and
through,
which
is
a
much
larger,
collector
Road,
that's
already
in
place
that
will
be
drug
all
the
way
to
the
north
to
meet
highway
2026..
L
A
Which
one's
the
Hawaii
storm,
where
you've
or
you
mentioned
that
which
which
road
is
that.
L
L
So
it
dawned
on
me,
while
I
was
looking
through
the
fields
sub-area
plan,
that
there
is
more
connectivity
planned
and
the
burden
of
connectivity
is
not
just
placed
on
our
collector
Road.
There
is
far
more
planned
in
addition
to
Highway
2026
that
allows
businesses
to
access
off
of
Highway
2026.
We
don't
have
any
Frontage
and
that's
a
good
thing.
So
there
there's
already
plans
that
are
outside
of
of
our
purview
for
connectivity
on
2026.
A
So
right
now,
your
your
plans
are
for
Access
off
of
the
off
of
the
Hawaii
storm
Road.
A
L
L
L
Sir,
according
to
achd,
this
collector
Road
has
yet
to
be
named.
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
lucky
enough
to
get
to
name
that
street
Hawaii
storm
is
to
the
West
gosh.
What
is
it
it
might
be?
Half
a
mile
or
a
mile
to
the
west
of
us,
so
the
reason
I
bring
that
up
is
because
connectivity
has
been
such
a
Hot
Topic
with
this
application.
Well,.
A
L
Beck
itd
has
been
a
little
challenging
for
us
in
the
last
nine
months.
We're
on
our
second
planner
I
have
reached
out
to
Justin
pond
with
right-of-way
multiple
times
and
I
was
passed
on
to
another
contact
with
District
three.
L
They
gave
me
one
version
of
what
they
think
is
appropriate.
I
talked
to
Connor.
We
changed
the
site
plan
based
on
these
emails,
and
now
we've
got
a
new
planner
as
of
four
days
ago
with
other
information
that
is
still
to
be
determined.
It's
pretty
gray
right
now,
but
we
definitely
intend
to
work
with
our
newly
assigned
planner
and
certainly
want
to
be
in
compliance
with
what
is
appropriate.
L
L
There
would
be
nothing
until
it's
installed
which
we're
not
in
charge
of
and
I'm
thankful
for
that,
of
course,
but
we
have
just
received
itd's
planning
letter
for
the
second
time
and
it's
different
than
the
first
planning
letter
and
that
came
in
August,
4th
I
believe
just
a
few
short
days
ago.
So
it
is
still
on
the
list
to
reach
out
and
and
find
out
some
more
substantial
and
quantifiable
information.
The
letter
was
still
fairly
gray
that
they
are
still
to
be
determined
on
the
Frontage.
L
No,
sir,
what
we
know
is
that
we
were
supposed
to
have
low
traffic
impacts,
which
we
do
we're
supposed
to
be
light:
industrial
commercial,
which
storage
kind
of
falls
into
both.
Where
a
single
story
we
we
do
meet
the
comprehensive
plans.
Definition
if
we
put
in
a
drive-through
I'm
sure
they
wouldn't
be
happy
with
that,
because
that's
too
much
traffic.
L
The
latest
comment
is
we're
supposed
to
be
an
employer.
I'm,
an
owner
operator,
I'm
a
pretty
much
a
one-woman
show,
so
we
feel
that
the
target
gets
moved.
We
had
two
meetings
with
staff:
they
were
very
gracious,
but
but
mixed
reviews
all
around
and
it's
been
frustrating
and
challenging,
which
is
why
we're
here
today
so.
L
The
field
sub
area,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
Connor
slide
10.,
that
exhibit,
is
the
shopping
centers.
When
you
look
at
at
the
the
region
itself,
Canada
Ustick,
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
the
the
print
is
so
small,
but
there
are
other
areas
that
are
supposed
to
be
more
foot
traffic,
neighborhood
commercial
areas
and
and
that
region
with
our
parcel
is
not
supposed
to
compete
with
that
type
of
commercial.
L
So
at
this
point
we
feel
like
we're,
bringing
something
that
is
appropriate
for
that
location
and
it's
a
buffer
from
the
residential
that
is
proposed
on
the
south.
That
will
eventually
come,
and
we
know
that
we
are
due
our
hearing
tonight
and
we
insisted
on
that
because
we
want
to
hear
from
you
folks.
L
L
So
if
we
were
in
compliance
with
the
mixed
use,
interchange
overlay
with
low
traffic
and
a
buffer
and
The
Collector
Road,
and
the
signal
coming
mixed-use,
Regional,
Center,
there's
a
mixed-use,
interchange
and
then
there's
a
regional
center.
To
me,
a
regional
center
might
mean
a
a
big
box
store,
but
that
would
be
more
traffic,
so
it
doesn't
seem
like
there's
a
lot
of
winning
options
for
that
location,
but
we
don't
have
those
answers
from
the
city.
At
this
point.
D
L
A
couple
of
facilities
that
are
doing
just
fine,
this
parcel
was
specifically
purchased
and
the
due
diligence
was
done
and
the
feasibility
was
done
in
advance
of
this
application,
knowing
good
and
well
what
was
coming.
L
D
K
A
M
Evening,
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
Caleb
Hood
I
work
for
the
city
of
marine
on
the
planning
division
manager,
33,
East,
Broadway
Avenue,
it's
in
Meridian,
83642
I
did
check
the
box
of
neutral
on
this
application.
I'm
sorry
for
the
confusion
in
the
three
letters
and
the
multiple
correspondences
with
Connor
and
your
staff
been
great
to
work
with.
I
will
apologize
for
my
role
in
not
complic
contacting
the
applicant,
although
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
Meridian,
so
I'm
not
contacting
Ada
County's
applicants.
M
All
that
often
my
contact
information
is
in
the
letter.
So
I
guess
the
phone
can
go
both
ways,
but
I
did
not
reach
out
to
them.
I,
don't
believe.
I've
ever
talked
to
Miss
Hart.
So
again,
I
apologize
for
that
I
wish.
Maybe
we
could
have
tackled
some
of
this
outside
of
this
forum,
but
we
are
where
we
are
so
I
thought
it'd
be
better
for
me
to
be
here
today
in
person
and
just
kind
of
explain
where
we're
at.
We
are
not
opposed
to
this
project.
M
It
is
marginally
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
Maybe
I'll
just
paraphrase
it.
That
way,
storage
units-
I-
don't
I-
do
not
have
any
personal
Vendetta
against
storage
units
I
think
they
can
work.
We
do
have
some
policies
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
aren't
called
out
in
the
staff
report
and
I
do
again
appreciate
the
staff
report
in
these
mixed
juice
areas,
even
a
smaller
eight
nine
ten
acre
parcel.
We
are
looking
for
multiple
uses
on
a
site.
M
That's
the
mixed
use,
part
of
mixed
use,
interchange,
but
we
could
live
with,
and
we
didn't
really
highlight
that
in
our
staff
report
that
in
the
comprehensive
plan
it
says
in
all
mixed
use
areas
at
least
three
different
land
use
types
are
expected,
with
a
variance
of
type
for
smaller
project
sites.
Again
I'm
not
going
to
dwell
on
that.
We
think
this
could
work.
The
major
issue-
and
it's
already
come
up-
is
that
East-West
collector
appreciate
the
applicant
designing
in
Hawaii
storm
drive
to
the
north.
M
Maybe
it'll
have
another
name,
I,
don't
know
Street
naming
committee,
but
that
that
is
appreciated
the
north
south,
but
we
really
need
the
East
West
Again
State,
Highway
16
is
coming
and
The
Interchange
is
going
to
be
right
there.
So
you
have
another
letter
from
the
adjacent
property
owner
I'll.
Let
them
talk
about
some
of
that,
but
really
the
interconnectivity
for
vehicles
is
key
and
critical
out
here.
M
City
Limits
are
quickly
approaching
Coal
Valley,
so
the
the
gis
map
that
you
saw
earlier,
Coal
Valley,
was
just
approved
for
their
new
campus
here
by
city
council.
A
couple
of
months
ago,
probably
doesn't
show
just
yet
because
it
probably
hasn't
been
through
the
state,
but
that
ordinance
is
done
and
annexed
into
the
city.
So
City
Limits
are
less
than
a
half
mile
away
from
this
property.
At
this
point
and
and
coming
quickly,
so
2026
is
the
other
big
thing.
I
have
three
minutes.
M
There's
a
lot
to
cover,
but
they're
right
away
on
2026
is
the
other
major
concern
and
the
changes
since
Planning
and
Zoning.
We
need
to
preserve
for
that
Corridor
six-lane
facility
in
the
future.
You
know,
they've
widened
four
lanes.
Construction
continues
to
go
on
there,
they'll
add
two
more
in
the
future.
With
with
the
in
interchange.
That's
probably
one
of
that's.
The
second
biggest
concern
is
Preservation,
so
we
can
make
sure
that
our
ultimate
Transportation
Network
can
function
appropriately
out
here.
So
not
supportive
of
the
variants
in
the
setbacks,
particularly
to
Chinden
and
the
connectivity.
M
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you
Caleb!
Is
there
any
questions
from
the
from
the
commission.
D
Sure
Mr
chair
so
I
mean
just
for
clarity.
Can
can
you
kind
of
summarize
like
again
what
what
exactly
is
it
Meridian
is
asking
for
here
yeah.
M
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Davidson
I
appreciate
the
question.
The
main
request
is
that
east
west
on
the
South
Boundary
and
East
West
Drive
aisle
public
Street.
It
could
be
anything
but
we
need
to
get
access
back
over
to
the
East
to
connect
all
those
properties.
M
Basically
the
parcels
that
you
can
see
on
this
map,
because
they're
at
the
footprint
of
an
interchange,
so
everybody
the
idea-
is
that
everybody
there
feeds
back
out
to
this
north-south
collector
roadway
that
they're
building
half
plus
12
of
so
that's
the
idea
and
the
number
one
request
is
at
the
South
Boundary
to
have
some
connectivity
connection
through
this
property
so
again
that
circulation
Network
can
be
there's
another
exhibit
you
had
I'm,
not
I'll
just
say
also
it
answers
the
question
still
too,
but
I'm
not
going
to
dwell
too
much
on
the
fields
area
plan
I've
actually
been
talking
with
your
staff.
M
Or
so
that
comes
back
to
the
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
that
comes
back
to
the
I.
Don't
necessarily
have
an
issue
with
storage
uses,
but
four
there
isn't
connectivity
shown
so
I'm
not
here
to
design
it
for
them
necessarily,
but
any
land
use.
We
would
expect
yes,
a
roadway
stubbing
through
generally
near
or
at
their
South
Boundary.
Some
preservation
even
I,
know
the
again.
The
property
owner
to
the
South
is
here
this
evening.
So
maybe
a
better
question
for
them.
M
D
And
then
any
any
idea
of
what
the
estimated
date
for
this
entire
area
to
sort
of
be
developed
in
the
Way
Meridian
wants.
It
looks
like
it
could
be
quite
a
while
yeah.
M
M
When
that
opens
up
you
know,
but
who
knows,
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
the
world
right
interest
rates
and
and
labor
and
and
materials,
and
things
like
that,
but
we
are
rapidly
growing
towards
star,
so
our
communities
are
going
together
and
again,
State
Highway
16.,
in
my
opinion,
is
going
to
do
nothing
but
accelerate
that
that
growth
in
this
area.
M
We
have
the
master
plan
that
Fields
District
area
plan
that
was
was
referenced
earlier,
and
so
we
are
excited
about
the
potential
in
this
area
and
really
again
not
opposed
to
the
project
with
some
redesign.
So
it
sets
the
stage
for
the
rest
of
this
area
to
develop
over
the
next
decade
or
so
15,
20
years,
probably
before
we're
fully
built
out.
But
it's
coming
rapidly.
A
M
Mr
chair
again
not
to
be
repetitive,
but
a
redesign
could
simply
be
the
office
instead
of
that
that
row,
basically
of
storage
units
being
a
drive
aisle
that
connects
down
and
over
with
cross
access
to
that
Json
property
owner.
So
that
can
continue
on
further
to
the
east.
Those
properties,
again,
we
aren't
going
to
approve
an
I.T,
does
have
this
jurisdiction,
but
the
city
also
has
code.
M
There
will
be
no
more
access
points
on
the
chin
and
emergency
access
notwithstanding,
but
there
will
be
no
more
access
points
on
Chinden,
but
for
the
collector
roadway
that
this
applicant
is
proposing,
and
we
need
to
get
people
over
to
that
collector
so
that
that's
that
they
can
use
it
and
they'll
have
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
Macmillan
to
get
out
and
up
and
back
up
to
the
2026
Chinden.
A
M
A
M
A
Something
yes
all
the
way
up
to
this
to
the
16
right,
and
so
that
would
require
these
other
property
owners
to
and
sell
amusement
or
something
no.
M
Mr,
chair,
I'm,
sorry
and
I.
Don't
have
a
pointer
that
that
parallel
backage
road
to
Chinden
would
actually
Loop
kind
of
like
you're,
showing
on
the
fields
area
plan.
There
will
be
no
connections
to
State
Highway
16.
right
because
that's
a
freeway
and
it
won't
connect
back
up
to
Chinden
either.
You
see
you
see
where.
A
M
So
Mr
chair,
I,
appreciate
that
clarification.
Most
of
those
properties
are
itd
properties
but
for
I
think
one
so
itd,
that's
right-of-way
for
The
Interchange
and
2026
State
Highway
16
storm
drain
areas
for
The
Interchange,
so
Conor
can
verify
that.
But
when
I
looked
at
him,
I
think
four
out
of
the
five
are
owned
by
itd
yeah.
K
M
So,
maybe
to
more
directly
answer
your
question
than
that
one
property
owner
or
two
or
the
few
that
are,
there
will
be
subject
to
the
same
policies
of
the
city
of
Meridian
comprehensive
plan
and
will
not
be
able
to
take
access
anywhere
else.
That's
why
I'm
so
passionate
about
this,
and
this
needs
to
be
here-
they
can't
have
an
access
to
the
state
highway.
C
M
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
good
question
and
again
it
was
it's
shown
to
some
degree
in
our
our
Fields
area
plan
and
the
applicant
mentioned
it.
We
anticipate
a
lot
of
interconnectivity,
so
not
just
one
road
that
connects
these
projects
but
multiples.
So
we
aren't
overburdening
any
one
roadway.
So
there
are
at
roughly
the
Eighth
Mile
a
roadway
Network
planned
where
there's
regular
interconnectivity,
so
it
will
be
both
the
North
and
the
South,
not
one
or
the
other,
but.
C
M
Point
Mr,
chairman,
potentially
I,
will
say
you
know
light
residential
is
also
one
of
the
sample
uses
in
our
mixed
use:
interchange,
land
use
so
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
that's
going
to
develop.
That's
why
I
guess
I
I'm
not
trying
to
push
back
or
argue
necessarily,
but
I
really
don't
know
what
type
of
land
uses
and
that's
why
again,
some
of
the
concern
with
how
this
is
laid
out
is
it
really
is
going
to
set
the
tone
for
how
the
rest
of
it
can
even
develop
to
the
South.
M
M
Yeah
Mr,
chairman
I,
would
have
Conor
just
verify,
but
I
do
believe
the
it's
an
M5,
something
the
5B
I
guess
is
there.
The
property
owner
does
have
a
large
land
holding
to
the
South
and
to
the
east.
K
Chairman
Beck,
commissioner
Davidson,
they
they're
the
ones
that
submitted
exhibit
number
48.
They
have
some
concerns
with
the
the
the
setback,
encroachment
and
so
forth.
I'm,
not
sure
if
they're
here
tonight,
but
yeah
exhibit
number
48,
so
they
they
touched
on
it
in
their
their
comments.
M
I,
don't
know
if
that's
for,
for
your
staff
or
or
myself
I
can
anybody
who
can
answer
Mr
chairman?
Yes,
commissioner,
Daley
so
they're
just
you
can
see
the
northern
part
of
their
parcel
just
on
the
screen.
So
if
you
for
the
the
purple
line
yep
right,
there
that's
their
property,
and
that
is
City
Limits
and
in
fact,
I
think
you
can
even
see
it
cross
hatched
a
little
bit.
It
got
cropped,
so
you
can
only
see
just
the
very
top
of
it,
but
you
can
see
that
that
line
work.
A
A
You
Caleb
for
coming
out.
B
5B
holding
things
839
South
Bridgeway
place
before
I
start
I
did
have
a
request
from
the
other
property
owner
also
to
the
west,
to
read
a
letter
that
was
they
sent
in,
but
couldn't
make
it
into
the
packet
Connor
kind
of
I.
Think
that
you
have
those
I
also
have
physical
copies,
but
I
have
a
lot
to
cover
too
so
I
want
to
get
going
again.
Thank
you.
B
So
much
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
5B
Holdings,
that
entity
owns
the
property
to
the
East
and
to
the
South,
as
well
as
to
read
this
letter
from
the
property
to
the
West.
I
did
submit
the
letter
that
is
in
your
packet
as
the
exhibit
just
referenced
and
there's
a
number
of
things
that
I
want
to
talk
about,
but
first
is
the
request
for
the
variants
and
I
think
that's
another
main
reason
that
we
request
that
this
application
be
denied.
B
As
detailed
in
my
letter,
we
don't
believe
that
the
applicant
has
demonstrated
or
proposed
any
sort
of
hardship
and
and
the
the
requirement
is
undo
hardship
due
to
the
characteristics
of
the
site.
This
is
a
regularly
shaped.
Eight
acre
parcel
that
really
doesn't
have
any
hardship
that
would
be
imposed
so.
B
Yeah
and
the
entire
application,
but
to
touch
on
the
variants.
In
my
letter
you
can
see
that
yeah,
there's
no
landscape,
that
that
20-foot
buffer
for
any
proposed
residential
use
is
is
absent,
and
that
is
of
significant
concern.
The
other
thing
is
the
frontage
road,
and
we
can
discuss
that
more
and
I
did
promise
the
neighbor
to
the
west.
B
That
I
would
read
his
letter
too,
so
I
don't
want
to
miss
that,
but
the
frontage
Road
would
be
a
natural
fit
in
that
area,
as
we
were
looking
at
that
map
to
connect
to
our
property
and
the
other
properties
to
the
west,
to
the
East
and
I
would
just
say
that
5B
would
comply
with
all
connectivity
requirements
of
the
city
of
Meridian
when
they
Annex
they
desire
to
Annex
into
the
city,
as
it
will
soon
be
contiguous.
B
So
what
I
will
do
now
is
read
the
letter
from
Mr
Mike
cuter,
who
represents
the
property
to
the
West
as
well.
Please
accept
this
letter
into
the
in
opposition
to
the
above.
Referenced
application.
I
represent
represent
the
estate
of
Peter
Barta,
which
a
state
owns
that
certain
80
acre
property,
commonly
known
as
7835
West
Chinden,
the
Barda
property
is
adjacent
to
the
7015
Chinden
to
the
subject.
B
Properties
West,
as
shown
in
that
figure
I'm
submitting
this
letter
to
voice
my
concerns
with
the
application
and
to
request
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
deny
the
application.
I
am
in
opposition
to
the
application
because
it
fails
to
meet
setback,
landscape
and
Architectural
design
standards
that
will
apply
to
surrounding
properties
that
develop
in
the
city
of
Meridian.
In
accordance
with
the
city
of
Meridian,
comprehensive
plan,
applicants
property
has
over
700
foot
of
Frontage
along
Chinden
and
500
feet
of
Frontage
along
the
to
be
constructed.
B
Mid-Mile
collector,
as
shown
the
proposed
architecture,
elevation,
sure
majority
of
metal
facade
with
little
to
no
modulation
and
I
believe
this
will
be
entered
into
the
the
record
there
too.
So
you
can
just
see
the
the
the
actual
renderings
and
elevation
are
concerned
are
of
a
concern
for
Mr
cuter.
So
I
did
my
diligence
and
in
getting
that
in
for
him.
Well,.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
just
the
the
remaining
sentences
there,
inadequate
setbacks
and
Landscaping
will
further
reduce
the
aesthetic
appeal
of
this
Gateway
area
and
harm
future
development.
I
am
concerned
that
approval
of
this
application
will
have
a
detrimental
impact
on
the
development
of
the
Barda
property
and
remainder
of
the
field,
sub-area
I
request.
The
board
deny
this
application.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
these
comments.
Sincerely
my
cuter
I'm.
B
So
with
that
I
will
stand
for
questions.
You
have
my
my
letter
and
are
concerns.
A
Okay,
does
anyone
on
the
board
have
questions
for
Emily,
Miss,
Mueller.
D
Yes,
I
would
ask
so
how
do
they
feel
that
the
self-storage
would
hurt
their
aesthetic
appeal
or
the
development
of
their
projects.
B
Commissioner,
yes
thank
you,
I
think
that
and
I'll
speak
for
5B,
not
for
Mr
cuter
I'll.
Let
his
letter
speak
for
itself,
but
I
think
that
you
know
we
have
been
very
involved.
I've
been
involved
in
that
that
field,
sub-area
planning
process
and
additional
architectural
requirements.
B
So
what
I
will
say
is
that
I
think
the
main
concern
is
with
Landscaping
setback
and
Architectural
requirements
that
this
really
doesn't
serve
any
of
those
that
will
be
the
the
kind
of
Cornerstone
to
this
whole
area
and-
and
so
those
are,
the
main
concerns
from
the
property
owner.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
The
owner's
primary
concern
is
really
not
much
different
from
what
Mr
HUD
discussed
earlier,
which
are
the
front
a
frontage,
road
and
Landscaping
and
setbacks,
and
overall
architectural
standards.
B
Yes,
yes,
I,
I,
think
I
think
that
that
is
the
general
concern
again.
If
you
look
at
the
the
renderings
just
kind
of
700
feet,
almost
700
feet
of
what
looks
like
corrugated
metal
and
in
an
area
that
is
designed
to
have
higher
standards
and
knowing
that
all
the
properties
around
are
going
to
Annex
into
the
city
of
Meridian,
with
an
anticipation
of
those
standards
is
the
concern.
D
Do
you
feel
that
architectural
revisions
could
accomplish
what
you're
looking
for,
or
do
you
just
feel
the
very
nature
of
self-storage
is
anti-ethical
to
what
they're
trying
to
propose.
B
I
believe
that
it
could
be
a
possibility,
but
at
this
point
I
think
there's
so
there's
been
so
many
things
that
we
would
still
request
denial
tonight
and
would
be
open
to
a
conversation
with
the
applicant
to
discuss
some
of
those
things
and
I
think
that
the
storage
use
I,
guess
I
can't
speak
to
that
specifically.
B
But
I
do
think
that
this
area
is,
is
the
way
that
we
envision
It
generally,
would
have
a
mix
of
uses
kind
of,
as
Mr
Hood
said,
and
that
a
single
large
storage
use,
I
yeah
I'll
say
that
the
owner
would
have
post
that.
B
C
C
I
guess
the
my
my
question
is
I.
Guess
a
reiteration
of
what
commissioner
Davidson
just
said.
So
the
Crux
of
your
dispute
is
architectural.
B
B
What
what
I
will
say
and
sorry
to
digress
a
little
bit
here
is
that
the
5B
Holdings
initially
submitted
a
letter
when
this
first
went
to
the
board,
saying
we're
not
opposed
to
this
application.
But
there
are
a
number
of
things
such
as
Landscaping,
such
as
the
itd
setback
and
other
roadways,
that
we
really
want
to
see
happen
and
none
of
those
things
have
happened,
and
so
it
has
become
more
of
an
overall
opposition
to
the
to
the
site
to
the
to
proposed
use.
C
K
K
Yeah,
so
on
the
Eastern
property
boundary
there,
it's
required
to
have
a
20-foot
setback
because
there's
a
residentially
zoned
property
to
the
east.
There
is
also
a
setback
to
the
South,
but
because
there's
an
easement
or
lateral,
there,
they're
they're
essentially
meeting
that
already
but
they're
as
Mr
Hood
stated
in
city
of
Meridian
they're,
looking
to
see
that
roadway.
That
goes
through
there.
K
In
addition,
there's
to
be
Landscaping
along
the
the
eastern
northern
Western
Property
boundaries,
but
because
of
the
variance,
if
you
were
to
approve
that
there
would
essentially
be
no
Landscaping
along
the
Eastern
property
line,
it
would
just
be
the
facility.
There
is
a
condition
if,
if
you
do
approve
it,
that
we
have
in
there
that
there
would
be
a
a
wall
along
that
Eastern
property
line,
as
opposed
to
Landscaping.
K
Commissioner
Davidson
they
they
proposed
a
build
right
on
the
property
line,
zero,
zero
feet.
K
Eastern
property
boundary
the
the
everywhere
else,
they're
sufficient
and
meet
our
the
Ada
County
setback
requirements.
As
stated
in
itd's
letter,
though
they
have
concern
with
the
northern
property
boundary.
They
would
like
to
see
it
look
more
like
this,
where
there's
a
much
larger
setback
for
right-of-way
dedication,.
K
K
Yeah,
so
this
is
what
Planning
and
Zoning
recommended
approval
on
this
with
the
larger
setback
here
to
the
north,
the
applicant
and
then
after
pnz's
recommendation
of
approval
came
forth
with
this
site
plan
that
has
a
much
lesser
setback
and
itd
as
opposed
to
that
based
on
their
most
recent
letter,
it's
exhibit
number
49.
K
K
Commissioner,
Beck
or
chairman
back
commissioner
Davidson
as
long
as
it's
within
the
scope
and
scale
of
the
project,
you
know
there's
room
for
a
movement
of
you,
know,
structures
and
so
forth.
As
long
as
you
ultimately
approve
it.
That's
where
you
come
into
play
so.
K
K
A
Okay,
all
right
is
there
any
other
questions
of
Ms
Mueller,
no
okay.
Thank
you.
K
I'd
say
before
you
close
here
and
back
I'm
going
to
enter
in
Mr
heaters
letter
that
was
read
to
us
by
Miss
Mueller,
as
exhibit
number
52.
A
Okay
well
and
we
we
will
allow
the
applicant
to
rebut
anything
if
you'd
like
you,
can
go
ahead
and
offer
a
red
bottle
if
you'd
like.
L
Know
the
slide
I
would
love
to
see
is
the
one
that
you
had
that
had
the
collector
road
with
the
purple
line.
I
think
that
would
be
thank
you.
That
would
be
the
most
helpful.
Thank
you.
L
The
current
site
plan,
as
it
sits,
reflects
what
county
code
setbacks
are
allowable
on
all
three
sides
other
than
the
Eastern
perimeter.
Just
for
clarity,
we
changed
it
because
of
that
knowing
itds
information
was
still
pending.
We
submitted
what
county
will
allow
and
sought
relief
on
the
eastern
boundary
and
I'll
return
to
that
in
a
moment,
we're
surrounded
by
very
large
landowners
on
all
three
sides
and,
of
course
they
want
us
to
build
roads
for
them.
L
L
Hawaii
storm
splits,
the
difference
between
the
purple
line
here,
where
the
collector
road
is
proposed
to
be
built
along
our
Western
perimeter.
Hawaii
storm
is
halfway
between
Highway
16
and
The
Collector
Road
there
on
the
north-south
purple
line.
There
is
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
road
to
be
built
that
will
connect
all
of
those
Parcels
when
the
applications
come.
There
are
no
applications.
Currently,
at
this
time,
I
have
coordinated
with
other
developers
on
projects.
In
the
past,
we'd
be
happy
to
address
concerns.
L
We
had
one
app
one
person
come
to
our
neighborhood
meeting
and
they're
actually
a
developer
on
the
other
side
of
the
highway
in
Star.
He
offered
me
a
tour
of
his
project.
We
offered
to
stay
in
touch
with
each
other.
He
came
and
said:
what
do
you
got
going
on?
I
was
standing
out
there
in
the
you
know,
7
P.M
in
a
November
night
and
made
a
friend
the
comments
regarding
Frontage
of
Highway
2026
are
between
us
and
itd.
At
this
point
they
are
still
to
be
determined.
L
We
would
be
also
happy
to
extend
the
Olive
Branch
to
five
b
Holdings
and
withdraw
the
variance
request,
recognize
the
impact
to
our
neighbor,
should
our
rezone
be
approved
so
that
site
plan
for
yes,
please
thank
you
on
the
eastern
boundary,
where
we
are
seeking
relief
from
the
setback
requirement
for
Midi
County.
That
is
the
only
variance
we're
requesting
tonight.
A
L
L
L
L
We
I
have
I've
chatted
with
my
team,
and
certainly
this
is
not
the
hill.
We
would
like
to
die
on
on
that
eastern
boundary.
One
thing
I've
learned
in
my
short
time
on
this
planet
is
no
ask
no
get
so
most
the
time
we
we
get
a
yes
or
we
get
a
maybe
or
we
get
a
I
will
give
you
half
of
that,
and
we
come
to
some
sort
of
resolution.
L
I
have
not
met
with
anyone
from
5B
Holdings,
but
certainly
that
isn't
something
that
we
would
be
willing
to
throw
out
the
window
if,
if
we
were
not
to
be
approved
based
on
that
variance
request,
it's
it's
just
not
something
that
is
important
enough
to
have
our
application
denied.
Based
on
that
item.
That
would
be
the
special
treatment
we
asked
for
and
if
it's
not
going
to
be
allowed,
then
C'est
La
Vie
will
will
take
it.
L
Excuse
me,
commissioner,
Davidson.
What
I
would
do
tomorrow
morning
is
give
my
engineer
a
call
and
say:
okay,
Chad,
what's
the
what's
the
look?
Do
we
move
the?
L
Requirement
chairman
back
commissioner
Daley,
those
are
still
to
be
determined.
The
itd
letter
said
this
is
what
they
think
they're
going
to
use.
This
is
what
they
predict,
and
this
is
what
they're
projecting
at
this
point.
It
is
still
not
a
hard
and
fast
number,
but
we
will
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
a
solution
that
makes
sense.
L
A
This
application,
it
is
application,
two
zero,
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
two:
two:
five
z
c
d:
a
v
c:
u
m
s,
p,
Urban
solution
that
application
is
being
or
that
public
hearing
being
closed.
It's
now
in
the
hands
of
commission.
Is
there
further
discussion
or
I?
Think
we've
got
kind
of
a
complicated,
not
kind
of
and
really
a
complicated
issue
here?
A
How
to
make
the
motion
and
well
not
just
that,
but
how
how
to
proceed?
Because
we
have
an
applicant
that
has
changed
the
application
from
the
from
the
original
Planning
and
Zoning
approval,
which
means
the
application
has
not
been
approved
in
its
current
form.
E
E
Are
applications
that
they
do
prove
conditional
uses
and
master
site
plans,
but
in
this
case,
with
the
variance
it's
coming
to
you
also
with
the
the
conference
or
the
rezone
as
well,
but
yeah
they're
making
a
recommendation,
there
was
a
specific
plan
that
they
they
reviewed.
There
was
some
variation,
but.
A
The
applicant
has
withdrawn
her
her
request
for
a
variance
on
the
east
side
of
the
of
the
property
which
further
complicates
it.
There's
some
Road
issues
that
I,
don't
think
have
been
have
been
fully
addressed
or
have
been
agreed
to
by
anybody
and.
A
O
Yeah
chairman
commissions,
I
mean
in
the
event
you
know
confronted
with
things
that
are
unknown
and
things
that
you
want
to
figure
out.
I
think
you
could
move
to
table
this
to
allow
the
applicant
time
to
to
sort
those
things
out
and
come
back
with
an
updated
proposal
that
reflects
kind
of
a
final
decision
of
itd
and
a
revised
plan.
Absence
of
variance
I
mean
those
are
certainly
things
that
you
could
table
this
item
for
well.
A
That's
what
I'm,
leaning
to
I
don't
know
about
my
fellow
commissions,
I'm
leaning
towards
something
like
that.
I'd
need
a
I
would
need
it.
We
would
need
a
a
applicable
or
amenable
date
because
I
don't
know
how
long
that
will
take,
but
we
would
need
and
I
mean,
would
need
a
sort
of
a
date
I'm
thinking
minute,
very
minimum
30
days,
maybe
even
60
days.
O
As
chairman,
Commissioners
I,
think
you're
right,
I
think
60
is
probably
a
safer
bet,
considering
how
busy
everyone
is
and
agencies
that
are
involved
and
again,
is
that
your
discretion
to
table
it
exactly
if
you
wanted
to.
A
E
A
And
it
would
be
this
hearing
as
well
this
this
the
this
and
if
there
was
any
revised
proposals
that
would
come
come
forth
in
that
time,
all
right,
well,
I,
think
that's
a
that's
a
doable
motion.
What
do
you
think
I.
D
Well,
I
mean
I
think
this
does
give
the
applicant
a
chance
to
submit
a
revised
design.
Although
I
gotta
say
the
design
is
not
going
to
look
much
different
from
this.
It's
a
bunch
of
a
bunch
of
boxes.
So
it's
only
going
to
change
the
configuration
a
little
bit
but
I
I'm
I'm
certainly
inclined
towards
granting
this
upon.
Seeing
the
the
amended
design
I,
don't
know
if
we're
ever
going
to
really
get
to
the
bottom
of
the
issue:
the
connector
roads
on
the
on
the
southern
side
but
yeah.
D
If
we,
if
we
get
a
revised
or
if
we
table
for
a
revised
design,
I
think
that's
fine.
C
Then
Sherman
I
move
that
we
table
application:
two:
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
two:
two:
five
z
c
d:
a
v
m,
p,
MSP
P
until
October
11th,
you
said
yeah
for
time
to
redesign
it
as
pertinent
to
the
discussions
we've
had
tonight.
A
D
I'll
second,
that
I
suppose
it
gives
some
time
for
an
additional
discussion
about.
You
know
any
any
architectural
changes
they
may
might
want
to
make
on
that.
But
you
know,
as
I
I
see
it
there,
it's
probably
not
as
ugly
as
as
your
neighbors
would
like
you
to
think,
but
also
the
fact
that
you
know
they
may
not
build
for
another
decade
or
so
you're
going
to
be
sitting
out
there
by
yourself,
but.
H
A
Second,
that's
a
second
all
right.
All
right,
you've
heard
the
the
motion
and
the
second.
If
there
is
there
any
further
discussion
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you.
A
A
We
now
have
up
for
consideration:
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
application,
two
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
six,
four
four
dash
s
p
r
dash
HD,
Dash,
FP,
James,
Wiley
public
hearing
is
open,
we'll
ask
Connor
if
you
can
take
the
Oliver,
if
you're
all
ready
to
go
Connor.
K
Ready
to
rock
thank
you
chairman
back.
Let
me
get
this
up
in
front
of
you
here.
So
application
2023,
zero,
zero,
six,
four
four
dash
s
Dash
fp.hd-pr
is
before
you.
This
is
more
specifically
considered.
Whiskey,
Ridge
Subdivision
applicant
is
James
Wiley.
Now
before
I
start
here,
Elias
is
going
to
hand
you
a
some
exhibits
that
were
actually
received
today
by
eagle
fire.
Just
some
follow-up.
These
are
going
to
be
exhibit
number.
Let
me
get
a
exhibit
number
for
you.
One
second
number
58.
K
I
want
to
add
that
to
the
record,
so
the
applicant
on
this
application
is
James
Wiley
of
the
vicinity
map.
Here
this
property
is
just
North
of
Shadow,
Valley
Golf
course.
It's
east
of
of
Highway
55
in
the
in
the
foothills
there.
So
here's
a
an
aerial
for
the
property.
So
this
is
a
preliminary
plat
and
a
private
Road
Extension,
as
well
as
a
flood
plain
and
Hillside
development
review
to
create
whiskey,
Ridge
subdivision
subdivision
will
consist
of
740
plus
acre
lots.
K
K
Here's
the
the
subdivision,
plat
preliminary
plat.
So
as
I
stated,
there's
going
to
be
seven
buildable
Lots
each
will
have
at
least
40
acres,
north
Basin
Lane,
as
I
mentioned
before,
here's
North
Basin
Lane
comes
up.
It
currently
terminates
within
the
property.
It
will
be
extended
throughout
the
site,
and
that
is
why
you
have
the
the
private
road
application
in
front
of
you.
K
Each
lot
will
have
the
front
engine
access
onto
onto
North
Basin
Lane
there,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
a
hillside
development
proposal
for
this,
as
you
can
see,
there's
significant
Contours.
It
has
some
pretty
steep
slopes
out
here.
Any
slopes
that
are
greater
than
15
percent
require
that
Hillside
development
review.
So
that's
why
that's
in
front
of
you
and
in
addition,
there's
that
floodplain
application
and
that's
just
because
there
is
going
to
be
development
taking
place
in
Foothill
tributary
areas.
K
An
application
was
previously
submitted
back
in
2022
for
this
same
development,
but
it
was
withdrawn,
as
it
was
determined
that
further
soil
and
slope
stability
testing
was
required
throughout
the
site.
There
was
some
drilling
that
took
place
in
various
testing
sites
and
it
was
determined
by
the
soils
engineer
and
our
County
engineer
that
development
can
take
place
safely
with
adherence
to
the
engineering
standards
that
are
conditioned
in
the
proposed
findings
in
front
of
you.
K
The
subdivision
does
comply
with
chapter
8-6
of
the
80
County
codes.
Since
the
proposed
Lots
comply
with
the
dimensional
standards
for
the
RP
districts,
there
will
be
a
a
phased
approach
to
this
project.
There's
going
to
be
two
phases
phase
one
will
entail
the
Western
half
as
you
there
here's
the
phase
line
and
then
the
eastern
half
would
be
in
phase
two.
K
This
is
the
the
Ada
County
future
land
use
map.
It
defines
the
site
or
designates
the
area
as
rangeland.
K
This
is
adopted,
which
is
primarily
intended
for
seasonal
grazing
by
domestic
livestock
or
wild
animals.
Properties
also
zone
is
real
preservation,
which
allows
for
the
creation
of
those
40
acre
residential
lots
as
proposed.
This
will
continue
to
allow
for
potential
grazing
due
to
their
large
size
and
other
similarly,
sized
residential
lots,
but
the
property
to
the
South
and
West,
with
larger
Parcels
to
the
north
and
east
of
the
proposed
subdivision,
will
be
compatible
with
this
future
land
use
map
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
K
Some
agency
comments
here,
achd
is
requiring
that
based
in
way
here,
and
it's
kind
of
convoluted
so
bear
with
me,
but
Basin
way
is
a
public
roadway
that
runs
all
the
way
up.
It
actually
kind
of
dead
ends
here
as
the
public
roadway,
and
then
you
have
the
private
roadway
that
continues
intermister
Wiley's
property.
This
is
existing
today,
so
the
highway
district
wants
to
see
that
this
blue
portion
here
that's
very
skinny.
It's
only
about
13
feet
wide.
K
K
They
also
mentioned
modifying
the
turnaround,
that's
part
of
their
review,
and
then
we
have
Eagle
fire
I'd
provide
you
their
most
recent
exhibit
their
fine
with
the
approved
plans
as
provided
and
then.
Lastly,
here
we
have
a
County
engineer
and
Zach
Kirk.
Our
County
engineer
is
here
tonight.
If
you
have
questions
for
him,
he's
going
to
require
that
there's
a
drainage
application
submitted,
there
will
be
you
know
as
if
it
is
approved.
K
K
Some
of
the
surrounding
neighbors
have
concerns
with
slope
stabilization
of
landslides,
the
road
maintenance
of
that
private
roadway,
just
additional
traffic,
as
you
have
this
property
being
split
and
new
Property
Owners
concerns
with
drainage
and
runoff,
and
then
emergency
access
to
the
site.
So
there's
a
few
different
letters
in
your
report,
as
you
know,
different
exhibits
in
there
that
are
before
you.
If
you
have
any
yeah,
if
you
need
any
further
clarification
on
those,
but
there
are
some
members
in
the
public
here
that
will
provide
testimony
tonight.
A
Any
questions
of
Connor.
A
H
Good
evening,
good
evening,
James
Wiley
1676
North
Clarendon
Way
Eagle
Idaho
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
commission.
Obviously
Connor's
done
a
great
job
in
presenting
we're,
we're
applying
for
seven
lot
subdivision
only
seven
Lots
on
286
Acres,
and
so
for
this
presentation.
We've
done
innumerable
soils.
Engineering
in
evaluations,
Mr
Kirk,
has
required
us
to
do
some
additional
soils
testing
which
we
did
perform
and
the
concern
of
slope
stability
is
our
concern
as
well,
because
I
intend
to
build
my
house
up
there
and
I
don't
want
to
have
a
problem.
H
My
Two
children
intend
to
build
their
houses
up
there.
They
don't
want
to
have
a
problem,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
done
properly
and
we're
also
in
the
construction
trades
we're
somewhat
familiar
with
how
to
how
to
do
things
and
what
the
ramifications
are.
If
they're
not
done
right.
So
it's
Our
intention
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
that
this
project
is
is
done
well
and-
and
hopefully
everybody
will
be
happy
with
it
in
the
end,
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
If
you
have
any.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
commission?
A
Any
questions.
You
have
any
question
all
right.
Okay!
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
have
Abigail
Germaine.
P
Evening,
Mr
chairman
Commissioners
for
the
record
Abby
Jermaine,
with
elimin
Burke
251,
East,
Front,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
my
client
Doreen
Phillips.
She
is
an
adjacent
property
owner
to
this
subdivision.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
that's
before
you
yep
exactly
thank
you.
Connor
she's,
located
right
there
off
of
basin
Lane.
The
main
concern
for
my
client
is
that,
as
you'll
see
that
red
portion
of
basin
Lane
is
a
private
road.
Currently
it
is
an
easement
that
my
client
has
during
Phillips
to
access
her
property.
P
So
over
the
course
of
the
last
30
years,
she
has
been
the
only
person.
That's
used
that
access.
She
has
made
significant
investments
in
that
road
to
the
the
tune
of
about
seventy
thousand
dollars,
she's
paved
it
she's
maintained
it.
Her
concern
is
just
ensuring
that
that
road
is
properly
taken
care
of
once
it's
being
used
by
the
additional
Property
Owners
up
there.
P
I
would
note
that
the
staff's
conditions
of
approval
condition
number
four
does
propose
that
a
road
maintenance
agreement
be
recorded.
However,
the
road,
the
language
in
the
condition
does
not
require
that
that
road
maintenance
agreement
is
agreed
to
by
the
adjacent
property
owners
and
specifically
my
client
who's
made
that
investment
and
maintained
that
road.
P
We
would
also
ask
that
that
road
maintenance
agreement
be
executed
prior
to
condition
number
27
in
staff
report
in
the
staff's
report.
That's
the
time
in
which
the
drainage
plan
will
need
to
be
submitted.
That
way,
we
can
coincide
with
the
road
maintenance
and
the
drainage
plan.
P
P
It's
my
understanding
that
Mr
Wiley
has
agreed
to
take
care
of
that,
and-
and
my
client
certainly
appreciates
that,
we
would
just
ask
the
commission
to
consider
requiring
some
kind
of
bond
or
assurity
as
it
relates
to
construction
of
that
road.
Hopefully,
the
project
goes
forward
and
is
developed
as
indicated,
but
in
the
event
that
the
project
doesn't
develop
or
that
there's
damage
to
the
road.
She
would
like
some
kind
of
assurance
that
if
the
applicant
is
not
there
to
correct
the
problem
that
there's
a
bond
or
Surety,
there
I
believe
that
condition.
P
Number
29
says
that
assurity
may
be
provided,
but
it
does
not
require
that.
So
those
are
most
of
my
clients
concerns
with
this
project.
I
would
note
for
the
commission
that
we
did
submit
formal
comments
on
June
8th.
Those
were
provided
prior
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
meeting,
and
we
would
refer
the
commission
to
those
comments,
as
they
do
go
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
with
some
of
the
issues
with
this
development.
So
with
that,
I
would
stand
for
any
questions.
P
So
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Daly,
so
she
has
an
easement
to
that.
So
Mr
Wiley
owns
that
in
fee
title,
but
it
is
her
easement
that
she
takes
access
off
of
basin
Lane.
So
she
has
been
the
only
other
person
using
that
lane
and
that's
why
she
paved
it
and
maintained
it
for
all
those
years
under.
C
A
P
Chairman
Commissioners
so
I
believe
that
there's
no
specific
conditions
in
the
easement
itself,
but
there
was
a
maintenance
agreement
that
my
client
Miss
Phillips
and
the
prior
owner
before
Mr
Wiley
purchased
the
property
that
they
entered
into.
That
just
said
that
Miss
Phillips
could
actually
improve
the
easement
area
by
Paving
it
and
making
investments
in
it.
So
she
could
have
proper
access
up
there,
so
it
didn't
require
that
any
maintenance
be
done.
It
just
allowed
her
to
improve
the
area.
P
They
Mr
chairman,
they
are
required
to
provide
a
road
maintenance
agreement
per
the
conditions
of
Staff.
However,
there's
nothing
in
the
current
language,
in
the
condition
that
would
require
agreement
as
to
what
the
substance
and
in
terms
of
that
road
maintenance
agreement
would
be,
and
my
client
just
wants
to
make
sure
that
she
has
a
seat
at
the
table
in
order
to
ensure
that
Mr
Wiley
pays
for
a
proportionate
share
of
that
maintenance
that
there
are
other
terms
and
conditions
that
would
protect
her
interest
in
that
road.
Going
forward.
P
D
P
Chairman
commissioner
Davidson
so
I
have
been
working
with
the
counties.
Engineer
Mr
Kirk
about
this
issue,
I
believe
that
the
discussion
that
we
had
resulted
in
if
the
condition
condition
number
four
were
to
be
amended
to
say
that
the
applicant
will
work
with
adjacent
Property,
Owners,
specifically
Miss
Phillips,
to
come
to
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
road
maintenance
agreement
before
recording
that
agreement.
That
would
be
satisfactory
to
my
client.
P
Chairman
commissioner,
Davidson
Yes
again
I
I
believe
that
the
condition
alludes
to
the
fact
that
they
may
require
that.
But
it
doesn't
specifically
say
that
the
bond
will
be
provided.
I,
don't
know
if
it's.
If
the
county
intends
to
require
a
certain
percentage
on
the
bond
or
not.
K
Davidson,
so
the
language
that
she
was
referring
to
it's
in
a
condition
number.
Oh,
you
already
I
already
lost
it.
K
Yes,
so
what
that's
getting
at
is
talking
about
as
Mr
Wiley.
If
he
is
approved,
develops
the
property
in
in
lieu
of
actually
constructing
the
roadway.
He
can
choose
to
submit
a
surety
bond
to
the
county
and
will
hold
on
to
his
money
until
he's
able
to
actually
construct
the
roadway
and
that
will
allow
for
approval,
but
that
Bond
needs
to
be
released
at
some
point
for
him
to
actually
construct
the
roadway
and
there's
I
know
some
more
in
depth
into
the
percentages.
I,
don't
know
if
Leon
and.
E
You
know
the
thought
is
with
that
Surety
agreement.
Typically,
it's
it's
almost
an
option.
It's
nothing
that
we
would
specifically
require
for
damages,
or
things
that
have
been
alluded
to.
It
would
be
an
option
for
the
developer
to
give
them
some
flexibility
to
either
build
a
road
to
satisfy
conditions
of
approval
or
post
assurity
to
satisfy
the
condition
of
approval
to
enable
them
to
move
forward,
but
nothing
that
we
would
typically
require
a
percentage
or
anything
of
that.
O
Yeah
and
chairman
commissions
to
that
effect,
also
in
unique
situations
on
Hillside
projects,
he
would
need
to
likely
construct
the
road
in
order
to
actually
gain
access
to
the
building
pads
and
also
to
allow
Emergency
Services
into
the
area.
So
we
have
seen
sureties
used
to
record
a
final
plot
and
then
they
come
build
it.
You
know
once
they're
ready
to
start
building
the
homes,
but
I
would
say
on
something
like
this.
O
The
attorney's
interests
are
covered
in
that
regard,
but
I
certainly
I,
think
our
road
user
maintenance
agreement
actually
also
could
accommodate
another
party
to
be
on
that
agreement
and
to
to
give
them
a
chance
to
discuss
this.
If
you
so
wanted
to
condition
that.
P
Mr
chairman,
commissioner
Davidson
no
I,
think
their
interactions
have
been
amicable
and,
and
my
clients
certainly
understands
that
development
is
inevitable.
She
just
really
wants
to
make
sure
that
maintenance
and
operation
is
is
completely
outlined
in
that
road
maintenance
agreement
and
that
the
burden
of
taking
care
of
it
into
the
future
is
not
on
her
shoulders.
D
A
N
No
well
I'm
Randy,
Hurst
I
was
on.
N
I'm
Randy
Hurst
at
16089,
North
Basin
way,
given
the
staff
recommendations
and
and
what
I
think
is
going
to
happen,
the
we're
expecting
the
approval,
there's
just
a
couple
of
things
that
we're
hoping
can
be
taken
into
account
and
maybe
conditioned
one
would
be
that
the
Rural
Preservation
District
and
the
current
setup
is
that
there's
a
40
acre
minimum
I'm
hoping
and
asking
that
that
40
acre
minimum
the
specified
in
perpetuity
or
for
as
long
as
possible,
so
that
these
large
Lots
can
stay
open
country
as
they
are.
N
The
my
understanding
is
that
there
can
be
the
possibility,
sometimes
of
an
owner
splitting
their
property
and
and
breaking
it
up
and
I'm,
hoping
that
if,
if
it's
a
40
acre
minimum
for
many
years,
the
people
who
buy
and
understand
that
that's
40
acre
minimum
is
there
they'll
know
that
that's
what
they've
got
and
won't
be
trying
to
develop
further.
N
Also
given
what's
happened
in
other
parts
of
the
community
where
there's
been
landslides,
this
area
is
very
kind
of
unstable
and
hopefully
with
with
Mr
Kirk
and
the
soils
Engineers
that
Mr
Wiley
is
working
with.
There
will
be
regular
assessment
because
the
road
the
the
temporary
that
was
put
in
for
all
the
soil
testing
isn't
the
road
that
you
see
the
map
for
so
there.
N
There
needs
to
be
regular
assessment
to
see
that
everything
is
going
to
be
stable,
I'm
speaking
partly
for
the
people
that
live
right
below
it
and
are
very
concerned
and
have
written
to
you
about
their
concerns
about
failure
of
the
slope
and
runoff,
and
things
like
that.
N
I
think
the
extensive
engineering
summary
it
does
a
good
job
if,
if
they're,
regularly
involved
and
hope
that
that's
a
condition
of
the
approval,
the
maintenance
agreement
for
the
road
right
now,
the
way
the
application
reads
is
it's
going
to
be
the
group
of
owners
up
at
Whiskey
Ridge
that
meets
at
least
once
a
year?
N
It
doesn't
include
Miss,
Mrs,
Phillips
and
so
I
I
think
what
I
would
ask
for
is
that
there's
there's
a
set
of
minimum
standards
for
what
that
agreement
would
be
so
that
then,
if,
if
there
isn't
an
issue
of
the
group
making
a
decision
that
could
be
harmful
when
she's
not
even
included
other
things-
oh
Mr
Wiley
had
said
at
the
last
meeting,
if
I
remember
correctly,
that
the
highway
department
is
asking
saying
that
he
has
to
make
the
improvements
down
to
Stack
Rock
that
interchange
with
or
yeah
with
Stack
Rock
Road,
but
the
map
here
doesn't
show
that,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
questions.
N
N
That's
what
he
said,
but
that's
not
what's
in
the
application,
and
it's
not
what's
on
the
map,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
the
Commissioners
will
say
that
that
Improvement
needs
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
the
Stack
Rock
interchange
and
that
any
Wells
or
utilities
changes
that
have
to
be
done
would
be
borne
by
the
developer.
D
No
questions,
but
maybe
just
to
address
one
of
your
points,
I,
don't
think
that
a
board
can
tie
up
land
in
perpetuity
because
I
think
I
mean
we
could
we
we
have
our
zoning
designations,
that's
what
they
are,
but
we
I
think
legally,
we
can't
say
subsequent
boards
elected
in
the
future,
can't
change
it
and
if
we
did
say
it,
they
could
change
it
anyway.
So
I
think
there's
always
no
matter
what
you
do
in
land
planning,
no
matter
how
much
certainty
you
want.
D
E
That
well
Mr
chairman,
in
this
case
you
know
we'll
add
the
subject.
Property
is
outside
of
any
City's
impact
area.
It
would
be
quite
some
time
I
guess
it
would
require
a
city
to
negotiate
with
the
county
to
incorporate
this
into
their
impact
area,
to
really
lend
the
The
credibility
of
the
potential
for
a
rezone
I
know
the
city
of
Eagle
did
just
Annex
some
property.
That's
very
close.
So,
like
you
say
this,
a
city
vehicle
is
equal
could
come
in
regardless
of
of
the
action
tonight
and
Annex
property
and
and
exercise
their
jurisdiction.
A
All
right,
it
appears
that
Gary
and
Carlene
Warford
did
speak
earlier,
but
they
signed
up
for
this
application,
so
we
won't
need
to
hear
from
them.
H
Mr,
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
sorry
about
that
I
got
bit
by
a
dog
the
other
day
and
it's
it
got
infected
regarding
Miss
Phillips
in
easement
that
she
has
through
our
property.
She
currently
has
a
driveway,
approximately
13,
to
14
feet
wide
we're
going
to
widen
that
to
24
or
26..
You
remember
four
yeah
to
24
feet
and
take
care
of
any
damage
that
might
occur
to
that
existing
roadway.
While
we're
widening
that
and
I'd
be
happy
to
meet
with
her
to
come
to
some
agreement
on
road
maintenance.
H
Basically,
it's
her
and
then
the
seven
New
Lots,
so
I
would
think
that
it
should
be
very
easy
for
us
to
come
to
some
sort
of
a
resolution
on
a
road
maintenance
agreement
that
includes
her
and
all
her
input.
I
know
that
she
does
not
like
spraying
along
the
sides
of
the
road,
and
we
don't
have
any
problem
with
that.
We'd
be
happy
to
mow
instead
of
spray
or
whatever
needs
to
be
done,
and
then
I
did
not
ever
say
that
we
would
improve
all
the
way
to
Stack
Rock.
H
The
Basin
way
is,
as
it
comes
out
of
our
property
is
narrow,
and
then
it
widens
part
of
the
way
to
Stack,
Rock
and
I,
don't
know
exactly
where
it's
widening
to
the
24
feet,
but
that's
essentially
what
achd
wants
us
to
improve
is
where
it's
widened
to
their
standard.
We
pick
it
up
and
widen
the
driveway
width
to
the
north
up
up
the
hill.
D
Q
Q
Chairman
commissioner
Davidson,
we
talked
about
seeing
that
road
maintenance
agreement
and
making
sure
that
the
neighbor
is
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
as
a
condition
of
the
drainage
application.
So,
while
I'm
reviewing
the
drainage
application,
I
would
look
at
that
road
maintenance
agreement
and
make
sure
everything's
in
order.
D
E
And
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
the
the
code
specifically
indicates
that
the
applicant
needs
to
provide
us
with
documentation
of
a
contract,
an
agreement
that
establishes
the
party
or
parties
responsible
for
the
repair
and
maintenance
of
the
private
road.
That's
more
or
less
all
that
the
requirements
state
and
it
needs
to
identify
the
regulations
on
how
it's
funded.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
the
aspects,
the
minimum
aspects
that
we
would
be
looking
for
in
an
agreement.
E
You
know
if
the
applicant's
willing
to
include
the
neighboring
property
owner
and
discussions,
something
that
we
certainly
consider
adding
in
a
condition
of
approval
or
or
as
a
component
of
the
drainage
plan.
But
that's
what
the
minimum
the
code
requires.
A
Okay,
all
right
well,
I
I,
agree
with
commissioner
Davidson
I.
Don't
think
we
ought
to
have
a
veto
on.
A
All
right
is
there
any
other
anything
else
for
us
and
for
any
questions
all
right.
Any
more
questions
for
the
applicant.
A
A
lot
of
trouble
so
a
lot
easier,
yep,
yeah
and
all
right
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
the
Eagle
fire
department's
letter
on
the
record.
E
Mr
chairman
Christian
Davidson
it
might
you
know
it
might
make
the
record
clear
if
you,
if
you
were
leaning,
that
direction
to
add
some
kind
of
language.
Maybe
to
that
maintenance
agreement.
Section
I
think
there
was
even
some
language
offered
up
that
the
applicant
work
with
the
neighboring
property
owner
come
up
with
amenable
terms,
so
there
could
be
some
language
like
that
that
you
could
add.
That
could
be
a
little
clearer
than
than
just
relying
on
a
something
coming
up
with
the
drainage.
A
All
right
so
well
before
we
proceed
to
there,
I
should
close
the
public
hearing,
and
then
we
can
determine
the
direction
that
this
board
will
take.
So
with
that
I
will
close
the
probably
carrying
on
application.
Two
zero:
two:
three:
zero:
zero:
six:
four
four
S
PR
hdfb
James
Wiley
the
hearing
being
closed
and
the
the
application
is
before
the
board.
A
A
E
Yeah
Mr
chairman
August
22nd
is
an
option.
Okay,
all.
A
Me,
the
22nd
to
August
22nd,
with
the
with
the
idea
that
there
would
be
a
revision
on
that
low
on
that
road
maintenance
agreement
to
to
work
with
the
cooperating
with
the
neighbors
I.
Don't
think
we
should
give
the
neighbor
a
veto
power,
but
we
should
certainly
say
work
with
the
neighbors.
E
D
I
mean
I'm
comfortable,
saying
I.
We
could
move
to
approve
this
upon
getting
the
new
language
on
the
road
maintenance
agreement,
which
would
require
collaboration,
but
not
approval
by
the
neighbor.
E
C
Okay,
Miss
film
and
I
moved
that
we
table
application
number
20.,
two
zero;
two:
three:
zero:
zero;
six:
four
dash
s:
Dash
FP,
HD,
Dash,
PR,
till
August
22nd
to
have
and
presented
to
us
new,
finding
the
fact,
inclusion,
conclusions
of
the
law
and
conditions.
C
To
the
right
away,
road
maintenance,
road.
A
Okay,
is
that
clear
enough,
I
think
so
Mr
chairman
all
right?
We
need
a
second,
then
I'll,
second,
that
okay,
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
application
with
the
to
the
table
until
the
22nd
of
August,
with
with
some
revised
conditions
attached,
Mr,
chair,
Annie,.
P
A
Yeah,
okay,
we
got
the
we
got
the
motion,
we
got
the
second
any
further
discussion.
Hearing
no
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
motion
carries
thank
you
all
right
is
there.
Anything
else
needs
to
be
brought
before
this
board
tonight.
Mr.
E
Chairman
one
one
other
item
for
the
good
of
the
order,
we'll
mention
that
it
is
Leon's
birthday
today
got
celebrate
his
birthday
with
you
tonight.