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A
Welcome
to
the
design,
competition
phase
of
rfq22077,
the
design
services
for
Expo
Idaho,
Park
development,
I'm,
Bob,
Perkins
I'm,
the
procurement
director
for
Ada
County,
and
this
is
a
project
the
county
is
really
excited
about,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
our
finalist
presentation
this
afternoon,
but
before
we
jump
into
presentations,
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
a
few
folks.
First
I
want
to
acknowledge
our
our
board
up
here.
A
We
have
our
chairman
commissioner,
Rod
back
commissioner
Ryan
Davidson
and
commissioner
King
Derek
Kenyon,
and
we
also
have
our
evaluators
up
at
the
diocese
as
well
also
want
to
thank
our
three
finalists
today.
That's
Rios,
the
land
group
and
port
for
being
here.
I
know
that
you
guys
took
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
on
your
presentations
and
we
look
forward
so
before
we
get
started
on
the
presentations.
I
also
want
to
thank
a
few
folks.
A
I
want
to
thank
our
Board
of
Ada
County
Commissioners
for
their
help
and
support
and
championing
this
project.
I
also
want
to
thank
or
thank
our
clerk
auditor
recorder's
office
and
Expo
Idaho.
Our
operations,
Department
Prosecuting
an
attorney's
office
and
our
management
staff
are
bringing
this
project
forward
so
a
little
bit
about
the
process.
How
did
we
get
here?
A
So
we
had
six
firms
submit
qualification
statements
for
this
RFQ
and
of
those
we
have
the
three
top
finalists
presenting
today,
so
they
were
selected
based
on
an
initial
evaluation
score,
and
today's
presentation
will
be
worth
up
to
50
points
and
those
50
points
will
be
added
on
to
their
initial
evaluation
score
to
determine
the
final
rankings.
A
A
B
A
Today,
the
order
of
presentations
they
were
determined
by
random
drawing
and
the
order
is
as
follows.
Rios
will
go
first
starting
right
at
one
o'clock.
The
land
group
will
go
second,
starting
at
two
o'clock
and
rounding
out.
Our
presentations
today
will
be
port
and
there
will
be
presented
at
three
o'clock.
A
So
I
just
want
to
say
good
luck
to
our
presenters
today
and
where
else
the
floor
is.
C
Yours
before
we
start
with
Rios
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
formally
acknowledged
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
where
we
are
today.
It's
been
a
three-year
plus
project
for
all
of
us
and
we
have
a
Citizens
advisory
committee
that
we
put
together
about
three
years
ago
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
those
that
are
here
and
those
that
are
not
here.
Raise
your
hand
if
you
served
on
the
citizens
advisory
committee.
I
know,
we've
got
a
few
of
you
in
the
room.
C
Thank
you
so
much
they
put
in
a
lot
of
their
time.
Andrea
fogelman
up
front
here
was
a
coach
here
along
with
Ed
Lodge,
and
they
did
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
that
really
set
the
stage
for
what
we're
seeing
here
today
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
thank
the
Uli
Urban
Land
Institute.
They
came
in
and
they
helped
us
for
another
year
of
this
project.
C
Helping
us
understand
the
financial
assessment
and
how
we
could
leverage
dollars
and
Partnerships
in
the
community,
et
cetera,
so
I
wanted
to
give
thanks
to
them
as
well
and
then
last
but
not
least,
La
Batista
and
his
Expo
Advisory
board
has
now
stepped
in
and
they
are
helping
to
Shepherd
this
project
along
the
way
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
to
those
three
groups.
G
D
Okay,
thank
you,
I
think
we're
ready
I
want
to
introduce
myself
I'm
Brent
Jacobson
I'm,
a
studio
director
with
Rios
Studio,
director
and
Landscape
architecture,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here
with
some
colleagues
and
some
of
our
partners
on
the
team
to
present
our
vision
for
the
Expo
Idaho
Park
site.
We
have
Jason
Shinoda
from
our
office,
Jeff
Dunn
from
our
office
and
then
also
from
our
local
partner.
We
have
will
Howard
Emily
vogis.
D
Let
me
go
and
see
if
we
can
advance
great.
So
what
we
wanted
to
cover
today
with
you
is
just
go
through
a
little
bit
who
we
are.
What
our
background
is
what
we
think
the
opportunities
are
at
this
site,
this
really
amazing
site
and
what
we
think
the
concept
can
be,
at
least
with
our
initial
Vision.
We've
assembled
a
really
great
team.
D
I'm
really
really
excited
about
the
people
that
could
work
with
us
on
this
project,
not
just
our
local
Partners,
but
our
whole
subconsultant
team,
we're
coming
from
a
Portland
office,
but
we
have
basically
most
of
our
team
is
based
in
Boise
and
that's
really
important
to
us.
We
are
a
national
firm
and
we
look
at
projects
around
around
the
country
and
around
the
world,
but
we
really
care
about
place
and
we
clear
about
local
places
so
building
a
team
that
has
local
expertise
and
real
knowledge
about
how
to
build,
how
to
operate.
D
How
to
think
about
culture
is
really
really
important
to
us,
and
that's
really
what
our
mission
is.
Our
mission
is
that
we
like
to
design
we
call
it
design
is
never
without
story.
We
like
to
tell
a
story
through
public
space,
and
we
like
to
tell
a
story
about
the
places
that
we
build
and
the
people
that
we
work
for.
D
So
these
are
some
examples
of
projects
we've
done
around
the
country
is
also
our
partners
have
done
locally,
and
each
of
these
projects
look
a
little
bit
different
and
they're
intentionally
different,
because
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
actually
design
a
project
for
the
place.
We
don't
want
to
be
that
you
look
at
a
park
and
you
know
who
designed
it.
We
actually
want
you
to
look
at
the
park
and
be
curious
about
who
designed
it
and
then
find
out
that
this
is
like
a
great
park
for
this
area
and
for
Ada
County.
D
As
part
of
that,
we
engage,
we
think
very,
very
critically
about
how
we
talk
with
our
clients,
how
we
talk
with
their
communities
and
their
stakeholders.
We
use
different
techniques.
Some
of
them
are
really
splashy.
D
We
all
know
that
we're
facing
drought
heat
all
these
kind
of
challenges
right
and
we're
also
facing
growth,
and
these
things
stress
where
we
live,
and
so
how
we
think
about
that
is
really
really
important.
So
when
we
thought
about
this
project,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
try
to
design
some
solutions
that
really
build
in
future
resiliency
for
the
site
and
then
also
that
future
resiliency
can
have
a
regional
impact.
D
So
how
do
we
rethink
Expo?
It's
an
amazing
site.
It's
88
acres
on
a
river.
It's
a
former
horse
track
which
some
people
may
hate
some
people
may
love,
but
it's
very
Dynamic
right.
It's
a
very
Dynamic
space,
so
we
were
super
excited.
We
saw
this
opportunity
to
be
on
it
and
we
asked
ourselves
some
questions
when
we
started
it
and
one
of
those
questions
was
basically
how
do
we
make
this
a
place
for
Community,
but
do
so
in
a
way
that
is
really
ecologically
responsive
to
the
Treasure
Valley.
D
That's
really
important
to
us,
but
we
also
want
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
actually
really
interesting
all
the
time.
You
know
that
was
one
of
the
key
things
that
people
highlighted
was
the
issue
of
user
experiences.
We
all
build
beautiful
things
and
you
go
there
and
nobody's
there
you're
like
what
do
we
get
wrong?
Why
are
people
not
using
this
and
for
us
that
really
is
about
programming?
Is
we
want
to
think
about
a
series
of
experiences
that
can
change
and
evolve
and
be
flexible
enough
to
engage
people
all
year
long?
D
So
that's
gonna,
be
one
of
the
things
you'll
see,
hopefully
in
our
proposal
today.
Some
of
those
principles
that
we
brought
in,
though,
when
we
thought
about
it,
was
about
fostering.
Community
parks
are
great
places
for
people
to
do
so
many
things,
but
one
of
the
things
we
love
about
Parks
is
that
they
allow
people
to
connect
to
each
other,
but
they
allow
people
to
connect
to
a
community
and
actually
have
a
shared
identity
right.
D
We
want
this
to
be
a
place
that
people
remember
and
it
gives
them
an
enhanced
sense
of
being
part
of
the
collective
of
Ada
County
or
the
Treasure
Valley.
We
also
really
want
to
engage
the
river
and
promote
resiliency
like
I
talked
about
before
you
have
this
amazing
resource.
You
know
we
joke
about
it
like
people
take
pictures
on
the
river
in
Boise
and
people
are
like.
Are
you
out
in
nature,
and
it's
like
no
we're
in
the
city?
D
D
It's
not
surprising
to
people
who
probably
live
here,
but
the
reality
is
a
lot
of
people,
don't
connect
to
Nature
enough
and
it
has
serious
huge
human
wellness
and
health
impacts
right,
and
so
we
think
it's
really
important
in
the
spirit
of
this
place,
to
make
experiences
that
people
can
connect
to
Nature,
not
only
so
they
can
get
out
for
themselves,
but,
more
importantly,
they
can
connect
with
each
other
in
nature,
because
that's
such
a
story
of
the
West
part
of
that
is
also
thinking
about
shade
and
areas
of
respite
how
people
can
find
places
to
gather
and
adapt
to
different
seasons
and
that
they
can
gather
together.
D
A
couple
other
points
we're
very
interested
in
the
idea
of
walkability,
so
you're
going
to
notice
something
in
our
plan.
I'm
going
to
preview
it
and
others
are
going
to
talk
about
it.
We
don't
have
cards
in
our
plan.
Our
cars
are
all
in
the
perimeter
because
this
park
is
for
people.
We
want
people
to
be
the
center
of
this
park
and
we
want
there
to
be
a
lot
of
walking
and
biking
and
places
for
people
to
move
through
the
park
together.
H
So
there's
a
lot
of
amazing
things
about
Expo
Idaho
as
Brent
mentioned,
but
one
of
the
things
is
also
that
it's
very,
very
large
I
think
it's
almost
90
Acres.
So
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
go
through
before
I
kind
of
teach
Jason
is
some
of
the
larger
picture.
Ideas
about
how
we're
thinking
about
the
site
in
general.
H
So
right
now,
when
you
go
out
there,
there's
the
river
experience
and
then
there's
the
kind
of
expansive
lawn
and
there's
the
track
and
there's
the
grandstand
and
the
relationship
between
those
two
experiences
is
kind
of
thin.
It's
kind
of
narrow,
there's
the
river
and
then
there's
the
lawn
experience.
H
Another
potential
challenge
is
that
the
FEMA
map
was
just
released,
showing
part
of
the
site
kind
of
the
northern
half
potentially
being
partially
flooded
in
the
future.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
address
that,
but
also
use
that
as
a
kind
of
design,
inspiration
for
how
we
think
about
the
landscape
and
the
park,
and
maybe
even
some
of
the
architectural
ideas.
H
So
our
proposal
and
concept
and
Jason
will
run
you
through
some
of
the
detail
on
how
it
gets
designed
is
to
bring
the
river
into
the
site.
So
we
want
to
take
that
thin
margin
that
relationship
between
the
river
and
the
and
the
lawn
and
expand
that
margin
and
make
that
a
place
for
people
to
inhabit
another
challenge
with
the
site
is
access
and
porosity.
So
right
now
there
is
some
access
for
vehicles
and
some
access
for
pedestrians.
H
So
the
second
part
is
bringing
the
community
to
the
river.
So
we
want
to
widen
the
river
experience,
but
we
all
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
invited
into
the
park
and
that
they
have
ways
into
the
park
and
that
that
kind
of
overlap
between
the
river
expansion
and
the
community
coming
in
is
really
where
the
project
lives.
H
The
third
part
of
this
is
site
history,
so
there's
a
track.
There's
a
race
track
on
site.
Brent
mentioned
the
kind
of
history
of
that
there's
the
grandstand
building,
there's
a
bunch
of
other
buildings
on
the
on
the
site.
Right
now,
so
I
think
you'll
see
ways
that
we're
thinking
about
that.
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
in
our
office
about
you
know:
do
we
keep
the
grandstand?
Do
we
keep
you
know
what
version
of
it?
H
Do
we
keep
and
I
think
we're
we're
kind
of
doing
a
more
surgical
approach
to
to
how
we
deal
with
some
of
those
things,
so
we
kind
of
got
three
parts,
we're
bringing
the
river
in
we're
bringing
the
community
in
and
then,
where
you'll
see,
keeping
a
sort
of
version
of
the
track
experience
and
then
celebrating
that
and
kind
of
expanding
on
that
experience
and
making
it
more
vibrant
and
more
exuberant.
H
So
here's
a
little
kind
of
aerial
blow
up
diagram
of
that
track.
Experience
so
on
the
lower
left,
we're
putting
the
track
on
a
diet
right
now,
I
think
it's
about
45
feet
wide,
we're
going
to
minimize
it
just
a
little
bit
make
it
about
half
that
size
and
we're
going
to
scale
it
to
human
use.
So
it
feels
right.
It
feels
like
it's
the
right
scale
for
people
and
then
we've
blown
up
a
few
kind
of
vignettes
of
different
experiences
along
that
track
as
it
changes.
H
So
in
some
cases
it
becomes
kind
of
built
into
the
landscape
as
an
Amphitheater.
In
some
cases
it
emerges
and
becomes
a
bridge
in
some
cases
it
sinks
into
the
landscape
a
little
bit
and
then
we're
introducing
two
new
structures.
You'll
see
the
grand
stand
there
on
the
lower
left
and
then
next
to
that's
a
new
community
center
that
will
have
events
you
could
rent
it
out
for
weddings
or
bar
mitzvahs
or
other
things,
birthdays.
H
Maybe
some
educational
opportunity
in
there
as
well,
and
then
the
River
Center
on
the
upper
right
is
a
new
structure
that
we're
proposing
and
we
believe
that
relates
Much
More,
To
The
River
activity.
So
you
could
imagine
kayak,
rentals,
canoe,
rentals,
swimming
lessons
and
educational
things
for
the
community
happening
up
there,
and
then
this
is
a
kind
of
Deep
dive
into
what
we're
thinking
for
the
grandstand
again
Jason's
going
to
show
you
the
renderings
and
the
more
finished
views
of
it
but
diagrammatically.
H
We
wanted
to
talk
about
it
because
it's
such
an
important
building
on
the
site
and
an
important
building
to
our
to
our
proposal.
So
the
first
step
in
the
upper
left
is
to
open
it
up
on
the
ground
so
that
when
you're
coming
into
the
site
from
the
west
and
you're
looking
in
through
the
park,
you
get
some
porosity
underneath
it
and
you
can
see
what's
happening
on
the
other
side.
H
On
the
upper
right,
we
then
come
in
and
activate
it
with
some
landscape,
some
benching,
maybe
some
fire
pits
and
then
some
Visitor
Center
food
and
beverage
and
other
programmatic
activities
that
really
activate
that
connection
and
play
into
the
kind
of
Plaza
space
that
you
see
between
the
grandstand
and
the
and
the
community
center.
On
the
lower
left,
we
punch
a
few
holes
in
the
existing
grandstand
to
connect
that
experience
up
vertically
and
Visually
and
experientially
to
what's
happening
down
below
and
then
the
lower
right.
H
H
It's
really
important
to
us
as
an
office,
so
we're
responding
to
things
like
the
landscape,
like
the
seasonal
changes
and
the
other
things
that
are
happening
locally
to
to
Boise
and
and
the
county
and
we're
using
it
to
create
a
sense
of
place
to
use
it
as
a
place
making
tool,
but
also
as
a
wayfinding
tool
to
help
Orient
people.
It
is
a
large
site,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
Color
effectively
to
to
kind
of
draw
people's
eye
around
and
let
them
know
where
they
are.
I
Coupled
with
that,
we're
really
programming
and
activating
every
space
that
we
can
in
the
site
to
create
a
really
vibrant
space
for
every
type
of
community,
and
then
we
are
kind
of
tying
a
bow
around
the
whole
site
right
we're
using
the
track,
we're
using
these
other
relics
and
elements
to
signify
and
give
identity
and
to
increase
wayfinding
through
the
site.
I
Something
that's
really
important
is
that
is
this
idea
about
embracing
the
kind
of
seasonal
flux
and
the
dynamic
aspects
of
the
river
and
so
we're
proposing
to
expand
the
floodway
and
the
and
the
river
through
two
channels
which
create
different
Island
moments
at
the
North
End
of
the
site.
This
increases
capacity
for
flooding.
Events,
we're
embracing
the
idea
that
that
water
will
rise
and
recede
through
the
life
of
the
of
the
year
and
that's
okay
and
it
creates
more
interesting
experiences
for
users
and
then,
as
we
kind
of
move
towards
the
towards
the
community.
I
We
know
we
have
a
slightly
drier
condition
so
we're
using
topography
and
landform
and
bio
retention
basins
to
cleanse
water
and
protect
water
quality
for
water.
That's
going
to
be
entering
the
river
and
so
kind
of
playing
with
that
flux
of
the
dynamic
nature
of
the
flooding,
the
cleansing
of
the
water
and
using
that
to
our
advantage
to
create
a
multitude
of
experiences.
The
site
that
corresponds
then,
to
setting
up
these
three
different
conditions
which
we're
thinking
about
as
different
habitat
zones
for
the
park.
I
And
that
also
corresponds
to
how
we're
starting
to
think
about
programming
the
park.
So
we
go
from
a
really
highly
activated.
Community
focused
activated
south
end
with
a
lot
of
our
program
that
I'll
walk
you
through
through
to
more
of
a
passive
or
educational
and
recreational
Zone
in
the
middle
and
really
to
this
kind
of
immersive
nature
experience
out
on
the
River's
Edge.
I
As
we
mentioned,
we're
really
passionate
about
making
this
a
people-oriented
place
and
part
of
that
is
really
just
keeping
cars
out
of
the
middle
of
the
park.
We
really
don't
want
to
see
cars
in
the
center
of
the
park,
we're
introducing
new
car
parks
at
the
southeast,
Southwest
and
north
west
side,
as
long
as
well
as
along
the
the
east
side
and
in
focusing
most
of
our
pedestrian
sorry
vehicular
access
at
those
points
and
connecting
them
to
the
park
through
the
track
experience.
I
So
we
have
a
kind
of
main
front
door
entry
near
the
grandstand
and
this
new
Community
Center
building
and
secondary
entrances
on
the
other
side
of
the
park.
The
track
itself
becomes
a
multi-use
path
for
different
modes
of
circulation,
so
cycle
path,
speeds
of
a
faster
speed,
slower
speed
places
to
sit
as
well
also
good
for
Access
and
maintenance.
So
we
get
kind
of
a
built-in
access
track
around
the
whole
thing
and
then
a
series
of
pedestrian
walkways
that
connect
the
rest
of
the
park
park.
I
Oh
two
men,
two
more
points
to
mention:
create
connections
to
the
green
belt
at
the
top
end
and
as
mentioned,
we'll
kind
of
go
through
each
of
the
spaces,
but
packing
in
tons
of
program
and
activity
throughout
the
whole
park
and
maximizing
areas
of
shaded
coverage,
root
coverage.
I
So
I'll
take
you
three
through
three
blow
ups
of
the
site
plan,
starting
at
the
south
end.
So
around
the
grand
stem
we
have
the
Expo
Gateway,
which
is
what
we're
calling
it.
We
have
a
flexible
Plaza
space
that
surrounded
by
the
grandstand
and
the
new
community
center,
and
this
could
be
used
for
festivals
fairs.
You
name
it
in
front
of
that.
Grand
stem
we're
introducing
a
stage
with
a
sloped
Amphitheater
Bowl.
So
you
could
have
events
on
either
side
of
the
stage,
then
south
of
the
community
center.
I
I
This
is
a
rendering
of
our
communities.
Community
facility
and
we've
been
kind
of
inspired
here
by
snow
drift
fences
and
some
of
the
vernacular
Timber
Construction
that
we
see
in
the
region
so
focusing
on
heavy
Timber
construction
as
a
sustainable
means
to
create
these
buildings
a
winter
scene.
Here
of
the
Expo
Gateway.
I
You
can
see
here
the
grandstand
fully
flexible
underneath
so
really
this
porous
experience
that
allows
for
lots
of
different
activities.
Festivals.
You
can
see
here
the
kind
of
cut
throughs
that
we're
introducing
up
into
the
grandstand
to
get
up
in
there
and
get
the
views
of
the
fields
Beyond
flexible,
Plaza
in
front
of
the
grandstand
that
could
be
used
for
things
like
ice
skating
in
the
winter,
the
sloped
roof
of
the
community
center,
a
sloped
roof
also
that
could
be
used
for
things
like
sledding
and
skiing
in
the
winter.
I
I
So
here
we're
introducing
things
like
beaches,
areas
for
rock
climbing
bouldering
fishing,
ropes
courses
and
then
also
more
passive
areas
for
viewing
Wildlife
picnicking
here's
a
view
of
the
Wetland
ponds.
You
can
see
some
of
the
track
in
the
background:
the
bridges
but
really
kind
of
bucolic
area
here
for
enjoying
the
wetlands
and
the
Mounds.
I
And
the
River
Center
Jeff
mentioned
using
the
lower
levels
here
for
float
rentals
kayaks.
That
kind
of
thing.
We
know
that
the
lower
level
here
would
be
inside
the
flood
zone.
So
lifting
all
the
program
up
to
the
second
level
will
let
it
allow
us
to
embrace
that
Dynamic
landscape
and
keeping
all
of
the
educational
facilities
and
classroom
facilities
up
on
the
second
level,
with
views
over
the
wetlands
and
across
the
park
introducing
beaches
on
either
side
of
the
channels
and
areas
for
kayaking
and
other
Recreation.
I
And
then
the
northern
edge
of
the
park
much
more
passive.
We
take
you
all
the
way
out
to
the
river
we've
got
more
areas
for
water
activities,
floating
paddle
boards,
fishing,
a
dock
and
Boardwalk
along
the
River's
Edge
for
fishing
connections
to
the
green
belt,
and
this
pier
that
extends
all
the
way
and
takes
you
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
the
water
in
the
upper
northwest
corner.
D
Thanks
Jason,
so
we
wanted
to
end
on
talking
about
how
this
park
might
get
used
throughout
the
year.
That
was
important
to
us
right
that
can
actually
get
activated
and
so
you're
going
to
see
a
series
of
diagrams
where
we
think
there's
probably
10
other
ideas
that
we
could
activate
the
park
on
that
aren't
on
this,
but
we're
showing
four
just
to
highlight
how
in
Spring
people
might
come
and
use
it
for
different
Community
oriented
events.
D
They
might
come
to
see
the
birds
come
back
right,
see
migratory
waterfowl
or
they
might
come
in
it's
the
time
of
year,
where
they
go
fish
for
a
certain
type
of
thing,
because
the
season's
opening,
but
in
the
summer
it
might
start
to
shift
right.
We
might
think
about
how
people
Gather
in
Mass,
because
the
weather's
nicer
and
you
can
actually
have
concerts-
and
you
know,
movies
in
the
park.
You
could
also
have
larger
events
like
fun
runs.
Actually
somebody
was
nice
enough
to
talk
to
us
beforehand
about
how
they
thought.
D
This
could
be
great
if
you
could
use
the
track
as
running
right.
Those
kind
of
ideas
that
you
can
embed
into
this
scheme,
but
also,
of
course,
take
advantage
of
the
amazing
outdoors
in
the
weather
and
then
thinking
about
fall.
It
starts
to
shift
again,
but
it
still
can
be
impactful
right.
We
can
start
to
think
about
how
you
might
program
some
different
festivals.
How
do
you
make
AI
program
things
like
a
Turkey,
Trot
or
some
other
events
and
then
also
fall
sports
right?
D
My
kids
are
just
finishing
soccer
right
now
so
and
then
in
Winter.
We
think
there's
an
opportunity
that,
even
though
the
winter
is
not
permanently
white,
when
it
is
snowy,
there's
a
chance
to
take
advantage
of
this
right
to
maybe
go
cross-country
ski
here
or
potentially
look
at
sledding,
but
then
also
look
at
seasonal
pop-ups
like
an
ice
Ribbon
or
an
ice
rink
or
other
things
like
that
and
markets
that
may
activate
this
in
the
winter,
so
that
people
still
get
outside
and
enjoy
the
Beautiful
the
beautiful
place
you
live
in.
D
We
were
asked
to
look
at
phasing,
and
so
this
is
not
a
hard
diagram
in
the
sense
that
we
know.
This
is
always
like
flexible
about
how
we
think
about
building
this
and
it
might
turn
into
four
phases,
but
we
think
in
phase
one,
it's
critical
to
think
about
in
our
scheme
a
couple
ideas
and
one
of
those
is
we
really
want
to
build
the
infrastructure
or
the
kind
of
backbone
of
the
park
right.
D
And
then,
as
you
go
through
the
process
of
a
lot
of
the
complicated
things
that
were
introduced
to
us
early
on
about
moving
land
around
and
all
those
kind
of
things
and
you're
ready
for
phase
two.
We
think,
then,
in
green.
That's
how
you
can
start
to
infill
and
you'll
notice.
We
kind
of
put
the
grandstand
building
in
phase
two.
It's
not
because
we
don't
think
it's
really
important,
but
you
can
use
a
grandstand
building
the
way
it
is
now
potentially
right.
D
So
you
could
have
a
phase
one
and
still
do
events
in
the
grandstand
building
and
then
reimagine
it
in
phase
two
to
basically
finish
the
park
right
and
start
to
think
about
how
you
infill
more
formalized,
Fields
And.
So
there's
ways
that
within
phase
one,
you
can
still
use
a
lot
of
the
site.
I
think
in
a
lot
of
the
ways
we're
proposing
in
phase
two
but
then
use
that
opportunity
in
phase
two
to
really
kind
of
dive
in
deeper.
D
We
did
think
about
it
about
where
we'd
want
to
spend
it,
but
I
think
we
thought
that
the
grandstand
is
a
really
interesting
icon
for
the
site.
Even
if
you
don't
change
it
immediately,
it
does
a
lot
of
great
things,
but
that
the
track
becomes
the
story
of
the
park
that
people
get
to
move
around
and
get
these
experiences
and
these
sequences
and
that
these
potential
new
buildings.
If
that's,
where
we
want
to
go
program,
wise
are
really
Community
facing
right.
D
They
are
really
about
putting
in
service
for
the
community
to
come
in
and
engage
with
the
park
in
a
more
direct
way,
whether
it's
the
community
center
or
the
River
Center
and
so
to
end.
You
know
we're
excited
to
have
a
discussion
with
you
about
what
we've
shown
you
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
plan
and
answer
a
lot
of
questions,
but
we
just
think
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
for
you
and
you
have
you're
fortunate.
D
If
you
have
three
great
teams,
I'm
not
gonna
lie
any
of
the
people
that
you're
going
to
see
today
will
do
a
great
job
for
you.
D
We
just
think
that
our
our
ethos
is
really
looking
at
how
we
can
tell
the
best
story
on
this
site
for
you
and
really
make
it
such
a
compelling
place
that
it's
memorable
and
I
think
that
the
strategies
we
have
employed,
we
hope,
really
are
going
to
invite
people
adjacent
to
the
site,
but
really
people
throughout
the
valley
to
come,
experience
this
project
and
make
it
an
ongoing
Legacy
for
Ada
County.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah,
so
you
mentioned
cafe
or
restaurants,
so
I
think
food
is
always
something
really
important.
When
you
have
a
park
of
this
size,
you
can
get
lost
in
it
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
your
kids
are
starved
right,
yeah
and
you
don't
want
to
have
to
go
jump
in
your
car
and
drive
away.
So
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
where
you
envision
cafes
or
even
we
talked
about
food
truck.
D
D
So
it's
a
great
question:
we
we
located
a
couple
possible
locations-
basically
I'll
I,
guess
I'll
point
to
the
screen,
so
you
can
see
if
I
can
get
the
pointer
to
work
well
in
the
grandstand
so
in
that
diagram
of
the
grandstand
I
can
pull
that
back
up.
But
that's
helpful.
D
We
looked
at
when
we
lifted,
took
all
the
cladding
off
and
took
out
the
guts
of
it
was
infilling
this
program
we
think
FMB
could
go
in
there
and
we
think
that'd
be
really
great
to
help
anchor
the
entry
of
the
park
in
the
arrival
of
the
park.
We
think
there's
a
couple
doors
to
the
park,
but
that's
kind
of
the
more
ceremonial
front
door
in
our
design.
D
Right
now
is
what
we're
thinking
and
we
think
that
Plaza
we
can
design
that
Plaza
to
also
be
a
place
for
food
trucks
or
those
kind
of
pop-ups
and
stuff.
You
will
notice,
we
did
show
it
as
kind
of
a
phase
two
building
and
I
think
we
would
want
to
work
through
it,
but
there's
some
nice
models
along
the
green
belt
right
now
of
these
kind
of
FNB
along
the
green
belt.
D
So
you
can
kind
of
see
in
the
physical
model
or
online
the
the
white
block
in
the
upper
left
and
then
the
physical
model,
it's
the
gray
block
down.
Here
we
were
talking
about
a
proposed
FMB
that
could
get
phased
in
there
and
I.
Think
that
would
give
you
something
that's
sort
of
along
the
river
and
then
you
have
the
grand
stand
in
the
center.
We
hadn't
necessarily
programmed
it
over
by
the
River
Center,
but
we
would
anticipate
like
bathrooms
or
some
other
facilities
right.
K
Yeah,
if,
if
I
may,
have
you
game
planned
the
logistics
of
interfacing
with
local
jurisdictions
and
moving
that
River
yeah.
D
So
it'll
be
through
that
we
anticipated
that
question
it's
complicated
and
so,
when
we
say
moving
the
river,
what
we
are
talking
about
is
we
think
these
are
overflow
channels
at
a
minimum,
and
we
think
if
we
can
interface
with
them
and
actually
get
agreement
to
bring
water
onto
the
site,
even
if
it's
just
in
a
high
flood
event.
That
would
be
amazing.
D
We
think
it's
likely
just
because
of
the
location
that
if
we
excavate
and
we
kind
of
reclaim
some
of
that
gravel
and
stuff
you're
going
to
have
water
there
right,
our
big
vision
is
we'd
love
it
to
kind
of
help
build
out
capacity
of
the
river,
because
we
think
it'll
have
a
lot
of
benefits
aquatically.
But
we
know
it's
complicated
and
so
I
don't
want
to
we're
not
trying
to
be
naive
about
that.
D
But
we
think
it's
important
of
the
vision
to
think
about
how
we
can
take
this
land
and
do
that
and
make
it
make
it
a
dual
infrastructure
right
that
it
not
only
serves
the
river
and
the
infrastructure.
You
need
there,
but
it's
actually
usable
by
the
public
in
the
park
right
as
we're
trying
to
get
people
into
a
river
experience,
and
you
have
a
certain
amount
of
Frontage
now
that
you
can
kind
of
tactically
interact
with
and
we're
trying
to
see
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
build
in
a
second
capacity.
D
I
know
you
know,
will
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
come
up
and
talk
about
it,
but
you
know
we.
Our
team
has
gone
through
negotiation
on
that
we
have
a
water
resources
engineer
on
the
team.
We
have
people
with
experience,
doing
that
and
so
it'd
be
something
if,
if
that's
attractive
and
interesting,
you
know
as
part
of
the
scheme
as
we
move
forward.
If
we
move
forward
with
you,
we
would
want
to
start
that
early
and
talk
with
them
about
what's
feasible
and
what's
possible.
We
don't
think
it
invalidates
the
scheme.
D
J
D
Sorry,
what
I
was
referring
to
when
we
were
talking
about
programs
or
events
that
might
happen
throughout
the
year?
We
were
highlighting
four,
but
I
think
you
could
have
a
lot
of
these
right.
You
could
bring
on
a
lot
of
different,
whether
it's
recurring
festivals
or
if
it's
different
activities
that
could
happen
on
site.
So
we
were
showing
examples
of
how
you
could
hold
races
here,
right,
Community,
races
or
5Ks.
We
were
showing
examples
of
festivals.
We
were
showing
examples
of
Sports
Programming,
we're
showing
examples
of
way.
D
People
might
occupy
it
during
certain
times
a
year
to
experience
the
seasons,
whether
it's
observing
fall,
color
or
observing
migration
or
looking
at
you,
know
the
snow
and
things
like
that,
so
that
that
that's
what
we
were
saying.
But
what
else
was
your
question,
commissioner?.
D
Yeah
100,
yes,
so
we
didn't
show
diagrams
of
it,
but
we
often
do
in
our
projects,
including
on
this
site.
Is
we
do
test
fit
of
flexibility
right?
So
we
take
this
program,
we
lay
it
out
and
then
we
actually
go
and
we
overlay
10
different
programs
on
it
and
see
how
it
works
and
we
try
to
develop
into
it.
The
ability
that
the
there's
future
flexibility
for
you
to
adapt
the
park
as
you
need
to.
E
So
you're
kind
of
anticipating
a
remodel
of
the
grandstand,
not
a
not
building
a
completely
new
one.
Did
you
did
you
look
into
what
if
we
did
a
new
one,
did
you
look
at
you
know,
noise,
traveling
and
where
noise
would
be
directed,
you
know,
because
we
do
have
residential
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
and
did
you
kind
of
do
any
analysis
about
sound.
D
We
haven't
conducted
like
a
thorough,
sound
analysis.
You
can
see
in
the
model
and
in
some
of
the
images
we
are
looking
at,
how
topography
strategically
comes
in
part
of
balancing
the
site
if
we
do
excavation,
but
also,
we
think,
that's
strategically
a
way
to
start
to
build
in
the
ability
to
try
to
get
some
screening
and
noise.
D
We
we
did.
Jeff
mentioned
it.
We
looked
at
whether
we
keep
the
track
at
all
and
whether
we
keep
the
grandstand
at
all
and
I
just
think.
It's
an
amazing
resource
and
I
know
that
might
sound
problematic
to
others,
but
it's
an
icon
for
the
site
and
it's
like
a
super
Pavilion
that
you
can
program
and
do
all
these
amazing
experiences
and
you
probably
wouldn't
rebuild,
but
now
that
you
have
it,
you
can
adapt
it
and
do
something
really
unique
with
it.
We
think
that's
really
compelling.
D
Could
you
do
an
amazing
building
if
you
took
it
down
and
put
something
there?
Yes,
you
could
do
all
the
program.
We
were
suggesting
the
grandstand
if
we
put
a
new
building
in,
but
we
think
it's
part
of
the
kind
of
legacy
of
the
site
and
iconography
of
the
site,
and
we
think
it
actually
lends
to
people
remembering
the
site,
but
also
actually
carrying
that
history
forward
in
a
new
way
and
at
some
point
people
remember,
there's
a
racetrack
they'll,
just
remember
it's
the
Gateway
building
or
something
right.
D
It
becomes
a
new
part
of
that
new
bit.
Your
adapting
buildings
are
complicated,
but
generally
the
building
you
build
is
the
most
keeping
it
is
more
sustainable
than
replacing
it.
So
we
think
there's
value
in
that,
and
we
think
if
we
do
it
right
and
we
analyze
it
right,
it
might
be
that
we
can
make
it
cost
effective.
C
D
Was
to
illustrate
we
did,
our
understanding
was
just
making
sure
that
there
was
a
sense
of
comparable
program
with
the
park
that
might
be,
you
know,
might
be
aggregated
into
this
land,
and
so
we
did
the
test
fit
of
softball
as
a
way
of
kind
of
understanding
that,
but
these
it
doesn't
have
to
be
softball
and
soccer.
We
were
shown
that
for
scale
to
understand
the
capacity
so.
D
Yeah
you
know
like
I
said:
this
is
a
project
that
we
we've
designed.
You
know
without
interaction
with
you
right,
that's
a
competition
and
ultimately,
now
that
we
interact
with
you.
Yes,
I'd
love
to
think
about
how
we
could
put
Trace
over
this
and
start
drawing
it
again,
but
yeah
the
soccer
soccer
could
move.
D
L
Yeah,
thank
you
great
job
on
the
presentation.
A
couple
questions
kind
of
a
follow-up
on
Josh's
question
regarding
the
river
so
seems
like
a
pretty
significant
volume
of
waters
depicted
in
this
graphic.
Here
we
have
about
300
cubic
feet
per
second
today.
So
how
do
you
envision
these
side
channels
at
this
time
of
year
or
in
the
winter?
How
are
they
integrated
into
the
site?
What
are
people
doing
in
and
around
those
channels.
D
That's
a
good
question:
it's
going
to
be
different
right!
It's
going
to
be
lower
water
right,
it's
going
to
be
a
lower
experience
and
I.
Think
that
is
part
of
under
it's
hard.
But,
like
you
know,
seasonality
is
part
of
where
we
live
and
seasonality
is
important
and
I
actually
think
that
coming
and
seeing
a
river
that
is
lower
and
higher.
It's
part
of
the
experience
of
living
here
right.
That
being
said,
it's
our
job
to
take
those
edges
and
not
make
it
feel
like
Barren
or
unmaintained
right.
D
So
you're
right
part
of
where
we
did
really
just
to
talk
about
it,
part
of
where
we
did
locate
like
the
the
River
Center,
the
Nature,
Center
and
part.
Is
it
it's
close
to
that
existing
side
channel
right,
and
so
we
are
thinking
about
how
you
can
still
get
to
the
main
flow
of
the
River
from
there
right
that
that
still
becomes
a
put
in
point
and
we're
thinking
about
that.
D
But
we
are
exploring
whether
or
not
these
these
channels
and
that
kind
of
expression,
of
seasonality
and
much
more
flux
and
capacity
adds
value
to
the
site.
And
we
think
it
does.
L
D
D
Presentation,
what
is
the
pier
yeah?
It
could
be
a
fishing
pier
and
it's
an
Overlook
and
it's
just
a
way
to
kind
of
engage
that
sense
of
being
next
to
the
water
right.
I!
Think!
That's
what
we
you
know.
We
went
up
and
down
the
whole
river
when
we
were
back
here
earlier
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
access
to
the
river,
but
there's
not
really
on
this
site.
D
You
know,
there's
the
The
Greenway
goes
by,
but
it's
really
kind
of
almost
like
a
highway
next
to
the
river
and
so
I
think
we're
looking
at
ways
that
become
these
punctures
out
to
engage
in
the
river,
and
so
that
was
a
strategy
we
thought
was
interesting.
Yeah
programmatically
I
think
it
would
be
a
place
for
fishing.
Some
people
might
come
out
there
to
look
at
Birds
right.
D
We
saw
an
amazing,
bald
eagle
across
the
river
hanging
out
right
when
we
were
walking
on
site,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
would
engage
in
it
that
way,
but
we
think
it's
really
about
actually
getting
these
kind
of
selective
moments
that
kind
of
push
next
to
the
river,
as
opposed
to
just
go
by
the
river.
M
Oh
no
I
think
your
design
is
very
unique.
Very
neat.
I
know
this
is
a
Vision
Quest,
so
we
didn't
put
any
parameters.
M
Just
to
show
us
what
your
capabilities
are
and
where
you
see
this
part
going
I
do
think
we
do
have
some
time
constraints,
and
this
would
be
true
for
all
presenters,
we're
being
funded
by
arpa.
We
have
to
have
certain
deadlines
and
things
done
on
a
certain
date.
Anything
that
requires
and
I
see
this
channel
thing,
maybe
requiring
an
environmental
document
which
would
put
that
whole
thing
out
out
of
the
capabilities
of
this.
But
do
you
think
this
could
be
done
without
environmental
document
moving
these
channels
around
and
bringing
all
that
water
into
the
park.
D
No,
no
I'm
sure
there
is
some
environmental
documents
and
so
that
that
may
be
right
and
that
may
be
a
challenge.
I
think
I
think
we
can
still
try
to
denote
this
as
an
option.
I
think
there's
a
way
that
could
be
a
longer
term
conversation
with
them
about
how
that
happens,
and
so
I
think
you
know
if
you,
if,
if
the
vision
is
interesting
because
we
did,
we
asked
for
a
big
vision
and
we
said
we're
going
to
go
with
a
big
Vision.
D
Logistics
are
hard
on
big
visions
and
it's
something
we'll
have
to
talk
to
and
if
we
can't
achieve
this
I
think
we
want
to
still
create
what
feels
like
that:
you're
next
to
the
river
and
in
this
kind
of
riparian
Channel
and
this
riparian
Edge,
so
whether
the
water
ultimately
can
go
from
the
river
into
the
site
or
whether
we
use
a
different
way
of
denoting
or
getting
the
sense
of
water
there.
That's
that's
what
the
vision
is
of
these.
D
Is
it
really
feels
like
you're
actually
an
expanded
Edge,
because,
as
I
said
right
now
with
where
the
site
is
and
Jeff
mentioned
it
it's
very
thin,
you
know
you
go
by
and
there's
basically
this
kind
of
lower
green
and
there's
these
great
trees,
and
you
can
hear
the
river
in
the
moment.
You
can
see
it,
but
you're
really
just
on
this
kind
of
asphalt,
Corridor
and
I.
D
D
We
were
being
a
little
naive
intentionally
just
for
the
vision,
but
I
also
want
to
hear
you.
We
don't
want
to
be
naive
in
a
bad
way
right
and
so
I
think
what
it
is.
Is
we
want
that
to
feel
like
that?
River
experience
is
really
kind
of
drawn
in
so
that
you're
immersed
in
it
as
opposed
to
just
going
past
it
or
by
it.
C
I'm
going
to
follow
up
with
one
of
the
first
things
you
said
that
you
listened
and
learned,
so
this
board
has
been
really.
We
find
a
lot
of
value
in
engaging
with
our
citizens
and
engaging
in
the
community,
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
doing
that.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
partner
with
someone
who
also
values
that
so
talk
us
through
your
process
of
community
engagement.
Sure.
D
That's
a
great
question:
we
do
it
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
be
honest.
Our
process
though,
but
in
general
processes
we
like
to
set
out
a
series
of
engagements
and
really
Define
like
a
map
through
that
process,
so
that
when
we
meet
with
the
community
the
first
time
they
understand
here's
what
we're
talking
about?
Here's,
what
we're
here!
Here's
where
we're
heading
together
and
then
we
like
to
set
up
these
experiences
with
them
and
we
had
a
few
images
of
it.
D
D
Oh,
we
all
thought
these
three
things
were
really
important
and
nobody
in
the
community
wanted
them,
so
we're
not
going
to
put
them
in
the
park,
let's
think
about
what
else
should
be
here,
but
what
we
usually
do
in
that
is
that
we
like
to
do
public
events
we
like
to
do
it
in
a
style
that
is
hopefully
less
about
present
and
react,
but
more
about
engagement.
So
we
usually
like
to
set
up
stations
and
actually
go
through
that
process
and
we're
happy.
D
We
like
to
obviously
partner
with
all
the
agencies
or
the
communities
that
we
work
with,
but
that
we
base
like
to
structure
series
engagements
that
way
and
make
them
as
interactive
as
possible.
We
also
have
done
for
a
recent
part
that
Jason
just
completed
in
Palm
Springs.
We
did
actually
online
meetings.
D
We
had
online
websites
and
polls
to
take
surveys
and
get
people's
reactions
to
Concepts
and
schemes
and
recorded
that
data
and
that
helped
influence
where
we
went,
and
that's
just
kind
of
this
like
kit
apart
and
set
of
strategies
that
they
would
go
through,
but
I
think
in
all
of
it.
It's
really
important
to
us
that
we
are
there
to
listen
as
opposed
to
tell
right,
and
so
we
try
to
set
up
a
presentation
that
is
really
about
a
series
of
questions
so
that
it
prompts
people
discussion
and
we
really
do
find.
D
D
Sorry,
that
was
a
lot
I,
don't
know
if
I
exampted
it
in
a
very
cohesive
or
very
clear
way,
but
in
general
we're
going
to
work
with
you
to
set
out
a
schedule
of
Engagement
and
go
through
what
would
be
a
series
of
workshops
in
each
of
those
workshops.
We're
going
to
have
kind
of
a
focus
of
either
questions.
D
We
want
to
ask
and
try
to
get
some
feedback
on
redeliver
that
the
next
workshop
with
the
next
series
of
questions
to
propose
and
then
through
that
process,
hopefully
come
to
what
becomes
one
or
two
final
schemes
or
proposals
that
the
community
supports
and
will
hopefully
come
to
a
public
meeting
and
talk
to
you
about
and
tell
you
why
they
think
it's
important
and
that
that's
that's
kind
of
the
general
process.
We
use
perfect.
D
So
we
did
two
big
phases
right
now,
but
it
could
get
smaller.
We
kind
of
I
can
click
back.
If
that's
helpful.
We
had
just
shown
this,
and
that
was
a
little
bit.
D
What
we
had
originally
been
told
in
the
RFQ
about
maybe
like
some
funding
sources
in
terms
of
the
phasing
and
how
that
might
work
it
could
get
smaller,
but
I
think
we
do
think
that
there's,
if
possible,
we
like
the
idea
if
the
track
is
an
element
that
is
important
to
the
park,
that
the
community
supports
and
you
support
we
think
trying
to
get
as
much
of
that
as
in
phase
one
as
possible
is
really
fantastic,
because
it
kind
of
builds
that
circuit.
It
builds
people
moving
through
the
park.
D
It
gets
people
used
to
using
it.
It
is
the
way
finding
it's
that
tool,
that
kind
of
hangs
the
part
together.
The
satellite
programs
can
all
kind
of
come
over
time.
You
know
whether
that's
one
year,
two
year,
three
years,
five
years,
we
do
that
all
the
time
and
obviously
construction's
always
complicated.
Sometimes
we
build
things
in
six
phases
depending
on
what
needs
to
happen
right,
but
that's
kind
of
the
general
strategy
of
what
we
thought
with
this
particular
scheme.
E
All
right,
so
we
used
a
grandstand
during
the
Western
Idaho
Fair.
You
know
that
fills
up
every
year
for
nine
days.
Well,
seven
out
of
nine
days,
did
you
have
any
thoughts
about
the
park
during
the
Western
Idaho
Fair,
you
know,
would
those
be
interconnected
or
would
they
sort
of
be
separate
entities.
D
I
would
love
it
if
they're
connected
I.
Think
that's
great.
You
know,
I.
Think
part
of
that
is
the
question
about
how
the
county
views,
what
things
are
kind
of
always
accessible
for
the
park
and
what
things
are
accessible
at
select
times
for
the
the
Expo,
but
I
think
you
can
design
the
grandstand
and
and
the
space
that
we're
creating
there
to
feel
connected
to
the
Expo
and
be
part
of
it
and
the
park
can
still
operate.
People
can
still
come
and
do
everything
it's
not
like
you're,
shutting
the
whole
park
down.
D
We
did
explore
ideas
depending
on
how
Expo
wanted
to
re.
If
it
wanted
to
orient
itself,
could
you
create
more
Lawns
or
other
programs
that
actually
face
the
Expo
kind
of
on
that
western
side
of
the
site,
so
that
you
could
basically
create
two
or
three
experiences
that
kind
of
Connect
into
the
park?
I
do
know
that
the
fairgrounds
has
an
existing
great
area
where
they
set
up
a
lot
of
their
events
and
rides
and
stuff.
D
So
we
didn't
want
to
co-opt
any
of
the
energy,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity
in
most
of
our
Parks.
We
end
up
talking
with
recurring
event,
partners
and
basically
test
fitting
and
talking
about
ideas
in
the
design
that
they
think
they
could
use
the
park
strategically
throughout
the
year
a
couple
different
times
and
we
think
that's
actually
a
great
way
to
activate
the
park.
E
And
then
our
River
float,
you
know
that's
a
big
attraction
in
the
summer
and
you
know
it
goes
to
Ann
Morrison,
Park
and
then
further
down.
You've
got
the
White
River
Park,
but
that's
not
really
part
of
the
float
at
the
moment.
Did
you
have
any
thoughts
on
the
interconnectivity
with
the
river
to
the
other
parks
and
what
kind
of
experience
we
could
have
with
a.
D
That's
a
great
question:
I
mean
I,
think
obviously,
we've
emphasized
connecting
to
the
river
and
getting
people
into
that
water
or
next
to
that
water.
So
we
do
think
to
the
extent
that
this
can
become
a
next
destination
or
stop
along
the
way.
I
think
is
fantastic.
The
way
that
this
can
be
a
staging
ground
for
people
to
float
would
be
amazing.
I
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
think
about
how
curated
this
park
is
compared
to
those
other
Parks
I.
D
Think
one
of
the
things
you
have
as
an
opportunity
here
is
hopefully
to
blend
very
clear
recreational
programming
with
this
kind
of
more
access
to
Nature
and
natural
programming,
rather
than
there's
a
river
park,
and
then
there's
this
park
and
there's
this
park.
I
think
you
have
an
opportunity
to
do
ever
do
a
lot
of
those
things.
L
Given
that
your
presentation
was
concise,
it
allows
for
a
lot
of
questions,
so
I
hope.
That's
part
of
your
plan
here.
I
was
curious
about
you
mentioned
the
track
a
few
times
and
you
you
indicated
the
track,
becomes
the
story
of
the
park,
I'm
kind
of
curious.
You
know.
Obviously
you
left
the
the
grandstands
in
or
the
Gateway
as
a
key
feature.
The
track
is
prominent
in
your
depiction
here
and
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
I
as
I
look
at
it.
L
I
could
see
it
as
connecting
or
you
know,
circumventing
the
part,
but
I
could
also
see
the
infield
and
the
sports
fields
and
activities.
I
imagine
you
know
kids
and
parents
and
bags
coming
across
this
thoroughfare
consistently
throughout
the
portion
of
a
day
and
maybe
yeah
on
flicks
with
that
track,
as
people
are
using
it
but
trying
to
get
inside
and
outside
of
that
track.
D
Content
I
think
it
depends
on
how
we
program
the
track.
I
I,
don't
think
it
has
to
be
a
conflict
I
we're
not
thinking
this
as
a
velodrome
right.
So
there's
a
great
cycling
Community
here
they
have
great
places
to
bike.
We're
not
thinking
that
this
gets
taken
over
by
people
going
30
miles
an
hour
on
their
bike
right.
So
I
think
when
you
think
about
how
big
this
is
It's
a
three-quarter
mile
track
right.
D
So
when
you
think
about
that
experience
along
the
way,
what
we're
really
looking
is
that
there's
a
Gateway
or
these
places
where
people
plug
into
it
and
then
it
can
kind
of
take
them
to
something,
and
then
they
go
off
on
side
trails
and
they
move
through
that.
So
I
think
I
think
we
can
work
through
that
I
I,
don't
see
it
as
a
traffic
conflict,
I!
D
C
D
That's
a
great
question
and
we
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
what
was
going
to
happen
around
us,
and
you
used
to
have
three
scenarios
around
you
right
now,
so
it's
a
little
bit
hard,
but
what
we
really
think
about
and
I
think
it
was
part
of
why
we
emphasized
not
necessarily
as
much
vehicular
circulation
in
the
park
and
trying
to
make
it
a
people
space.
D
Is
it
I
think
whatever
happens
around
you
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
program,
so
whether
that
is
that
you
do
like
a
mixed
use,
kind
of
development
or
kind
of
town
center
idea?
That
was
one
of
the
proposals,
whether
it
becomes
more
of
an
entertainment,
District
I
think
ultimately,
having
this
be
a
flexible
Green
Space
where
people
can
go
be
outside
and
participate
in
events
and
participate
is
going
to
benefit
all
those
things
right,
so
whether
you're
living
near
it
having
a
world-class
Park
is
great.
It's
an
Entertainment
District.
D
The
ability
to
set
up
events
here
or
partner
with
Expo
in
that
way,
I
think,
is
really
fantastic
and
I
think
we
can
build
in
a
lot
of
space
and
capacity
for
that
with
88
acres,
so
I
think
I
think
it's
very
complementary
because
I
think
great
open
space
in
general
just
benefits
anything
you
put
around
it.
You
know,
unless
you
make
really
bad
decisions
about
that,
but
I
don't
think
you
are.
You
already
have
a
great
start
with
the
three
scenarios
you're
planning
so.
E
Mr
chair
yeah
they've
made
this
great
model
here
and
it's
kind
of
hard
to
get
a
sense
of
it
from
up
on
the
day
as
I'm
wondering
if
we
could
maybe
go
down
on
the
floor
and
look
at
it,
maybe
have
him
sort
of
describe
it
as
we're
looking
at
it.
I'd.
J
J
J
F
F
F
But
we
start
fancy
Young
Circle
I,
don't
know
if
I
didn't
build
any
programs.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Right
and
regardless.
A
So
next
up
we'll
have
the
land
group.
If
we
can
have
you
guys,
come
forward
and
start
getting
set
up.
Please.
J
E
F
A
All
right,
I
think
we're
ready
for
our
presentation
with
the
land
group.
If
the
evaluators
in
the
board
is
ready.
O
Good
afternoon,
thanks
for
hosting
us
today,
I
am
Matt
Adams,
with
the
Land
Group
in
Eagle
I'm.
O
I
get
very
nervous
for
these
presentations,
even
though
I've
done
them
a
lot.
If
my
face
is
red
and
my
voice
is
cracking
I'm,
okay,
if
I
hit
the
deck,
we
could
call
paramedics.
Please
we
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
this
design.
Competition.
O
P
P
Those
are
our
guiding
principles,
but
what
do
they
mean?
Health,
a
state
of
complete
emotional
and
physical
well-being
for
humans.
Physical,
active
movement
play
mental
alleviate
stress,
Refuge,
peace,
calm,
environmental,
clean
cool
air,
clean
water.
The
park
will
contribute
to
an
optimal
state
of
health
for
the
citizens
of
Ada
County
Equity.
P
Ensuring
everyone
receives
the
appropriate
investment
for
their
circumstances,
through
a
recognition
that
each
person
may
start
at
a
different
place.
Justice
inclusion,
Joy
celebration,
learning,
access,
participation
and
potential
the
park
will
be
a
catalyst
for
Equitable
investment
in
our
community
ecology,
the
relationship
of
organisms
to
one
another
and
to
their
physical
surroundings,
human
environment,
study
conservation,
biodiversity,
weather
the
park
will
build
resiliency
and
restore
the
natural
human
plant,
animal
and
river
systems.
O
S
O
P
O
The
conversation
of
context,
great
design,
authentic
placements,
keep
making
must
be
grounded
in
history
and
culture.
This
place
at
Expo
Idaho
begins
with
geologic
history
spanning
approximately
11
million
years.
Human
history
begins
with
the
Shoshone
and
Bannock
tribes
and
Shoshone
tribes,
beginning
approximately
12
000
years
ago.
O
Settlement
history
begins
with
Pioneers
in
wagon
trains
and
Chinese
Miners
and
farmers.
At
one
time,
25
percent
of
Idaho's
population
was
Chinese
predominantly
in
this
location.
The
modern
era
of
this
place
begins
with
the
establishment
of
the
village
of
Garden
City
and
that
in
1949,
which
is
later
incorporated
as
the
city
of
Garden
City
in
1967.
O
each
moment
in
time
that
we
recognize
here
has
a
unique
history
and
culture.
We
are
endeavoring
to
take
on
or
absorb
these
cultures
this
history
and
express
it
in
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
in
the
park
design
itself.
We
are
striving
to
express
this
culture,
the
sacred
connection
to
the
land
of
the
indigenous
people,
the
ambition
of
the
pioneer,
the
Enterprise
of
a
Chinese
miner
or
Farmer,
and
the
Intrepid
Spirit
of
modern
day
Garden
City.
P
To
our
plan,
if
you'll
you'll
notice
North
is
to
the
left,
which
is
the
river
you've
got
Glenwood
running,
left
to
right
on
the
bottom
of
the
page,
along
with
Chinden
running
top
to
bottom.
On
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
page
as
the
vision
of
the
park
started
to
come
together,
it
naturally
developed
into
these
distinct
areas.
We
called
these
areas
districts
and
you
will
hear
us
use
that
term
as
we
move
through
the
park
today.
P
P
We
will
walk
towards
the
grandstand
District,
which
is
the
primary
Park
entrance
for
anyone
driving
to
the
site.
We
will
take
advantage
of
the
existing
grandstands
and
turf
clubs,
let's
Meander
to
the
field
District,
it's
adjacent
to
the
existing
Expo
Idaho
buildings,
which
we
hope
will
create
a
symbiotic
relationship
strolling
to
The
River's
Edge
District,
appropriately
named
due
to
its
adjacency
to
the
river
finally
to
the
movement
District,
which
is
at
the
center
of
the
park.
O
Okay,
I
want
to
take
just
a
moment,
while
we're
still
in
this
full
planned
view
to
highlight
pathway,
connectivity
and
pathway.
Network
you'll
see
that
coming
up
through
the
rest
of
the
presentation,
but
it's
important
enough
to
pause
on
it.
The
pathway
framework
is
what
supports
all
this
movement
and
getting
around
between
these
districts.
Without
it,
it's
not
accessible.
You
can't
move
around
this
framework,
which
we've
overlaid
on
top
is
just
to
highlight.
O
What's
there
that
you
saw
in
white
earlier
wide
paved
multi-use,
Pathways
that
provide
abundance
of
access
north
to
south
or
left
to
right
on
the
screen,
Greenbelt
connection
extension
and
connectivity
sidewalks
throughout
the
park
and
trails
and
Pathways
where
you
can
go
into
areas
of
discovery.
This
connectivity
provides
equity
and
accessibility
for
all
Park
users,
all
right.
Let's
visit
the
community
District
first,
this
District
includes
Community
Gathering
space
community
garden
plots.
O
We
do
actually
have
low
impact
storm
drainage
solution
plugged
in
here
as
well,
because
we
are
right
up
against
Ada,
County,
Highway,
District,
roadway,
Gathering,
Garden
food
truck
area,
Food
Forest
or
Pioneer
Orchard,
and
a
kitchen
and
Market
incubator,
so
I'm
going
to
back
up
I
want
to
point
out.
If
you
haven't
noticed
that
we
went
outside
the
boundary
of
what
you
showed
for
the
park
space,
we
envisioned
working
with
partners
and
local
agencies
to
expand
this
end
of
the
park
and
hopefully
engage
more
with
the
commercials,
the
commercial
activity
and
infrastructure
of
Garden
City.
O
O
O
We
have
space
for
food
truck
activities,
we
have
garden
plots
in
the
distance
and
a
food
Orchard
in
the
distance,
a
food
Forest.
So
let's
I
want
to
highlight
one
of
the
user
experiences
that
I've
talked
about
this
kitchen,
incubator,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
heard
that
term
or
not
what
is
a
kitchen
incubator
well
in
simplest
terms,
it
is
a
shared
use,
Kitchen
in
a
licensed
commercial
space
that
is
certified
for
food
production.
O
Our
concept
includes
an
Associated
market
for
selling
of
prepared
food.
So
what
happens
there
renters
members?
They
can
use
the
kitchen
on
an
hour
or
hourly
basis
or
a
day
basis
to
produce
food.
Take
those
products
then
to
Market
they
can
sell
them
on
shelf
space.
In
the
on-site
Market
food
entrepreneurs
can
benefit
from
shared
kitchen
and
Market
space,
because
these
facilities
help
remove
restrictive
high
cost
barriers.
They
allow
specialty
food
businesses
to
start
from
nothing
and
grow.
O
They
reduce
risk
of
failure
because
of
low
skill
and
management
of
a
commercial
kitchen
or
the
understanding
of
maintenance.
They
provide
resources,
related
distribution,
marketing,
accounting,
Etc.
There
are
examples
we
have
a
Food
Kitchen
incubator
in
Garden,
City
called
Twisted
kitchen
there's
one
in
Salt,
Lake
City
called
The
Square
kitchen
and
in
Spokane
River,
City
Kitchen
all
successfully
operating.
O
So
the
question
might
be
sorry.
The
question
might
be:
why
would
you
invest
in
a
kitchen,
incubator?
Well,
kitchen
and
Market
incubators
can
drive
economic
activity,
social
interaction
and
provided
an
exclusive
experience
for
all
citizens
of
Ada
County.
By
embracing
a
culturally
diverse
set
of
producers
and
customers,
the
incubator
can
advance
and
sustain
a
vibrant
food
ecosystem
in
Ada,
County
who's,
the
end
user.
Everyone,
because
you
have
producers,
you
have
customers.
This
opportunity
is
open
to
all
Ada
County
residents.
O
O
O
You've
got
concert
venue
that
you
can
see
to
your
left
set
up
very
similar
to
how
the
the
Expo
Fair
sets
up
their
concert
venue.
Now
you
have
people
utilizing
the
Green
Space
vendor
tents.
O
I
want
to
highlight
one
of
these
user
experiences
that
we
brought
up.
That's
the
youth
Learning
Center.
We
are
proposing
that
we
do
an
Adaptive
reuse
of
the
existing
Turf
Club
keep
the
building,
and
then
we
turn
that
into
a
youth,
Learning
Center.
So
what
is
that?
A
learning
environment,
classroom
space
computer
labs
outdoor
space
as
well
used
to
support
steam
education
for
the
Youth
of
Ada
County
through
school
programs,
summer
camps
and
strategic
Community
Partnerships
steam?
As
you
may
know,
science,
technology,
engineering,
arts
and
math?
O
O
So
what's
going
on
at
the
field
District
at
the
field
District
we
have
Pathways.
We
have
interpretive
Trails
informal
play
fields
shown
with
softball
outlines
that
could
also
be
used
as
overflow.
If
you
need
more
formal
Playfield
space,
we
have
Gathering
spaces
ecological
enhancement,
areas,
non-programmed
open
space
and
passive
Recreation.
O
O
So
what
is
a
restorative
environment?
It's
simply
landscape
or
space
that
promotes
human
interaction
with
the
environment
and
with
other
humans.
Green
Space
is
restorative.
Environment.
Quiet
space
is
a
restorative
environment,
water,
wind,
cool
air.
These
things
can
be
in
short
supply
in
some
of
our
Urban
environments.
O
Why
would
Ada
County
want
to
invest
in
restorative
environments?
Is
might
be
a
question
you
have
good
mental
health
strengthens
social
Fabrics,
good
mental
health
strengthens
communities,
families
and
a
Workforce.
O
A
spring
of
this
year's
study
from
University
of
Massachusetts
Amherst
has
valued
global
economic
burden,
not
of
mental
health
problems,
but
depression
and
anxiety
at
over
a
trillion
US
dollars.
The
the
global
Workforce
loses
a
trillion
dollars
of
earning
power
and
production
power
because
of
depression
and
anxiety.
O
Mental
health
affects
Ada
County
positive
mental
health
is
more
than
just
the
absence
of
a
disorder
or
the
absence
of
a
disability.
Mental
health
is
defined
by
The
Who.
As
a
state
of
well-being,
similar
to
our
definition,
in
which
an
individual
can
cope
with
the
normal
stresses
of
Life,
can
work
productively
and
is
able
to
make
a
contribution
to
their
community
Green
Space
will
improve
Mental,
Health
social
spaces,
improvemental
health
and
safe
spaces,
improvemental
health,
the
field
district,
is
all
about
so
who's
the
end
User,
it's
all
of
us.
We
all
are
under
extreme
pressure.
O
These
days,
I
mean
most
of
us
can
cope
with
the
normal
stresses
of
our
job
and
our
life,
and
we
can
work
productively
and
make
a
contribution
to
our
community.
But
none
of
us
are
immune
to
stress
and
pressure.
So
anybody
who
simply
needs
a
break
from
the
pressure
of
life
is
the
user
of
this
space.
P
Great,
let's
walk
over
to
the
River
Edge
District
I.
Think
all
of
us,
as
Park
users
could
have
mentioned
the
river
in
some
way
our
entire
team
spends
time
at
the
river.
So
we're
really
excited
about
designing
spaces
that
we
want
to
use
the
program
for
this.
Space
involves
the
Boise,
River
restoration,
a
dog
park,
Greenbelt
connection
and
enhancement,
Beach
opportunities,
barbecue
areas,
Gathering
space
areas,
interpretive
Trails,
nature
play
and
river
access.
What
does
that
look
like
in
the
park.
P
It
also
promotes
a
healthy
ecosystem,
preserving
the
natural
functions
that
the
river
increased
native
vegetation
and
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
plan
here
along
the
edge,
the
user
experience
we
want
to
highlight
is
river
access,
it's
a
place
to
what
is
it
it's
a
place
to
play
in
the
water
walk
along
the
beach
Wade
get
access
to
Trails,
it's
an
easy
place
that
you
could
put
in
or
take
out
watercraft,
which
we
do
often
around
the
valley.
P
O
What's
going
on
at
the
movement
District?
Well,
this
District
includes
a
really
Dynamic
program.
Bike
park
pump
track
cross-country,
running
trails,
fitness
equipment,
interactive
water
features,
a
lake
with
adjacent
picnic
areas,
Open
Fields
for
play
and
a
destination
playground,
so
some
images,
so
you
can
see
what
the
character
of
this
space
might
look
like.
This
is
the
bike
park.
We
did
in
Airport
Boise,
which
has
turned
out
really
well
lots
of
use
fitness
equipment.
O
You
can
see,
there's
a
difference
between
a
user
like
me
that
might
use
this
image
in
the
middle
and
a
young
adventurous
user
who
might
use
the
the
image
on
the
right,
but
I
think
what
I
want
to
highlight
today
or
our
user
experience
that
we
really
want
to
highlight
would
be
what
is
a
destination
playground?
That's
what
we
think
is
a
winning
idea
for
this
project,
so
a
destination
playground
is
simply
a
large
playground
and
we're
done
really
large.
O
This
playground
that
we're
proposing
or
showing
the
plan
could
be
as
much
as
10
times
12
times
larger
than
what
you'd
see
at
a
normal
Park
with
a
variety
of
activity
zones,
destination,
playgrounds,
offer
activity
for
the
widest
age
range,
going,
Way,
Beyond,
Middle,
School
age,
up
in
the
high
school
and
older
and
all
the
way
through
adulthood
truly
inclusive
play,
and
what
you
really
want
to
do
is
create
return
traffic,
there's
so
much
varied
activity,
and
so
much
excitement
and
complexity
that
kids
keep
coming
back
our
destination
playground
is
the
entire
movement
District
that
we
showed
you
earlier
with
the
bike
park,
pump
track
cross-country,
running
trails,
the
fitness
equipment
all
of
those
features,
but
the
play
structure
itself
when
you
talk
playground,
you're
thinking
of
the
structure.
O
So
let's
talk
about
what
makes
a
successful
play
structure.
Well,
integration
with
landform
and
terrain.
That's
key
on
a
flat
plane,
it's
not
as
exciting
it's
not
as
complex
complexity
and
scale.
That's
really
like
large,
spanning
area
our
structure,
areas
shown
as
three
acres
on
the
park.
So
it's
very
complex,
large
large
scale.
You
can
handle
lots
of
kids
of
different
ages
perceived
risk,
so
playgrounds
are
safe.
O
They
meet
federal
laws
for
safety
and
we
design
them
in
a
safe
way,
but
children
need
to
perceive
a
risk
if
there's
no
risk,
it's
boring
and
they
use
it
incorrectly.
All
right,
so
there's
great
play
equipment
that
especially
stuff.
That
gets
you
really
high
in
the
air
that
creates
that
perceived
risk
for
the
for
the
child
and
probably
for
the
parent
as
well,
and
then
creative
materials
are
also
another
way
to
create
really
successful
destination
play.
So
these
are
some
examples
of
that.
O
O
So
why
would
you
invest
in
the
destination
playground?
This
is
millions
of
dollar
investment.
You
will
attract
residents
from
all
of
Ada
County,
all
of
the
Treasure
Valley
and
Beyond.
You
will
create
Equity
through
natural
Idaho,
Recreation,
that's
accessible,
so
you
can
do
anything
in
this
park
that
you
can
do
in
Idaho.
You
can
rock
climb.
You
can
run
on
Trails.
You
can
mountain
bike.
You
can
paddle
in
the
river
everything
that
you
could
experience
in
Idaho,
but
for
a
child
who
can't
get
there
doesn't
go
to
McCall
on
the
weekend.
O
They
can
walk
down
the
street,
ride
their
BMX
and
experience
those
activities
we
create
Equity,
because
we
have
a
safe
place
to
play
with
kids
that
are
not
from
your
community.
It's
good
to
play
from
people
that
play
with
people
that
are
not
like
you
promoting
Healthy
Living.
This
is
the
kind
of
exercise,
that's
fun
all
right.
We
all
put
our
kids
on
soccer
teams
and
they
love
it.
But
this
is
what
a
kids
would
do
if
they
made
their
own
schedule
for
the
day
and
it
will
drive
economic
activity.
O
O
P
O
So
when
our
team
set
out
on
this
journey
or
we
first,
we
responded
to
the
RFQ,
we
were
really
excited,
surprised,
excited,
thrilled
to
get
shortlisted
and
we
got
together
and
we
decided
we
wanted
to
create
a
single
kind
of
iconic
feature
in
the
park.
That
could
really
be
the
big
idea
as
our
design
work
evolved.
O
O
The
districts
can
be
phased
over
time,
one
at
a
time
two,
at
a
time
they
could
be
all
built
together.
They
really
do
work
in
concert
with
one
another
to
achieve
to
achieve
our
vision,
support,
The,
Guiding
principles
of
Health,
Equity
and
ecology.
So
we
we
told
you
what
we're
excited
about.
I
actually
wanted
to
pause.
If
we
could
and
ask
the
Commissioners
to
ask
everybody
up
here,
can
we
ask
what
feature
of
the
park
or
which
district
you
found
most
exciting,
and
you
would
want
to
visit.
K
K
O
M
Well,
I,
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
you,
but
I'm
never
leaving
the
destination
playground
I'm
going
to
stay
there.
I
I
do
have
one
quick
question
about
the
river
access.
How
do
you
envision
that,
as
far
as
people
being
able
to
launch
the
boats,
is
there
going
to
be
a
Beach
area?
I
see
a
it
looks
like
a
walk
down
stair
area
to
the
river.
N
P
Ahead?
Yes,
yes
and
right:
State
high
level,
big
Vision,
but
that's
absolutely
those
those
elements
that
we
are
thinking,
we're
going
to
incorporate
and
several
elements
that
you
just
see
in
other
great
Parts
along
the
river
and
any.
In
addition,.
O
O
My
wife
and
I
have
a
canoe,
and
if
you
want
to
really
make
sure
you're
meant
to
be
together
in
a
marriage,
you
should
canoe
together
and
we're
we're
getting
good
at
it,
and
but
the
takeout,
the
takeout
and
the
launch
are
the
big
moments
in
life,
and
so
this
is
a
beach
takeout
with
easy
access
steps
ramp
really
well
built
so
that
it's
convenient
and
provides
ease
to
exit
the
water
area.
C
Q
With
the
engagement
at
the
river
was
by
multiple
programmatic
opportunities
for
people
to
do
that
and
approach
the
river
as
they
are
most
comfortable.
So,
yes,
there
would
be
a
larger
takeout
that
has
ramps
for
rafts
and
canoes
and
things
of
that
nature
and
a
beach
associated
with
it.
That
a
larger
group
could
go
and
aggregate
near
the
river
and
play
in
the
water.
Q
But
then
also,
we
have
more
simple
steps
in
a
couple
of
locations
that
provide
a
more
intimate
connection
with
the
water
and
then
also
at
places
where
we
think
that
there's
some,
some
really
good
views
and
opportunities
to
engage
with
the
river
in
a
different
way.
We're
looking
at
doing
more
of
an
Overlook
experience
at
a
couple
of
small
nodes,
which
again
is
a
much
more
intimate
experience
and
can
serve
a
different
user
group
along
the
river
Frontage.
C
This
frankly
concerns
me
a
little
bit
just
because
I
see
what
Scott
Coburg
deals
with
in
the
summer
in
the
the
rafting
season.
It's
a
little
chaotic
there
I'm
really
interested
in
hearing
more
about
the
collaborative
kitchen,
the
economic
development
opportunities,
I,
I
I'm,
not
sure
this
park
I
think
the
acreage
lends
itself
to
something:
that's
Grand
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
with
Ingress
and
egress.
C
You
know
schinden
and
Glenwood
is
already
you
know.
The
traffic
is
really
tight
there
all
the
time,
and
so,
if
this
is
going
to
be
10
times
the
size
of
any
other
playground
to
kind
of
worry
about
congestion
and
what
that
would
look
like
so
I'm
kind
of
leaning
more
towards
how
does
this
integrate
again
into
the
more
the
master
plan
that
the
citizens
group
envisioned
with
some
economic
development,
some
potential
value
and
viability
with?
What's
going
on
in
Garden,
City
adjacent
to
and
then
moving
in
in
that
direction?.
O
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
so
those
those
plans
envisioned
a
lot
of
Commerce
occurring
up
against
the
edges
of
the
park
right,
which
would
create
almost
Around
the
Clock
activation
of
the
space
users
moving
through
or
businesses
adjacent
to
wanting
to
take
advantage
of
having
a
park
a
borrowed
landscape.
O
Our
solution,
I
think
what
so,
what
our
main
focus
was
was
the
citizens
of
Ada
County.
Despite
what
may
happen
in
Garden
City
have
a
space
to
come
to
and
we
really
wanted
to
hit
on
health
and
equity,
and
then
we
have
the
ecology
portion
on
the
river.
O
This
will
bring
more
users
and
traffic
will
be
busy
on
the
streets.
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
solution
for
that,
for
you,
I
brought
I
drove
Chinden
to
get
here
today
and
I
drove
past,
and
it
was.
It
was
already
getting
busy
I,
don't
think
it's
ever
not
busy
anymore,
but
yes,
these
features
will
certainly
bring
people
we'll
need
to
use
the
parking
spaces
that
are
available,
Expo
and
overlap
with
them.
O
Q
Q
In
addition
to
that,
I
think
another
thing
that's
sort
of
plays
into
this
idea
of
access
and
connectivity
is
that
Matt
was
starting
to
speak.
To
is
the
idea
of
the
incubator
kitchen
and
if
you'll
recall,
we
we
broke
the
rules
and
we
went
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
actual
limits
of
the
project
and
I
think
there's
opportunities
to
create
some
Synergy
with
some
of
the
vacant
Lots
around
the
park,
especially
on
that
Garden
City
East
Side,
as
the
Terminus
of
Adams
Street.
Q
Where
you
talk
about
that
trying
to
be
sort
of
their
main
street,
we
really
have
an
opportunity
to
create
some
energy
there
at
the
park
entrance
and
one
of
those
things
could
be
sort
of
the
incubator
kitchen.
That's
then
associated
with
more
of
the
programming
that
happens
inside
the
park,
such
as
Community
Gardens
or
the
Pioneer
Orchard,
or
some
of
those
things
that
relate
to
the
story
of
Garden
City,
but
then
also
relate
to
the
programming
that
we're
proposing
for
the
project
site.
C
And
then
I,
really
like
the
movement,
District
I
love
what
you
did
over
in
the
Fort
Boise
area,
the
bike
park
over
there.
Yes,
how
large
is
that?
What
what
was
the
actual
acreage
that
you're,
anticipating
for
the
entire
movement
district
and
then
what
would
like
a
bike
park
like
that?
Take
up
how
much
space
so.
O
The
movement
District,
which
is
just
in
set
from
our
River's
Edge
District
on
this
plan,
is
probably
as
much
as
20
acres.
If
you
count
the
playground,
the
lake
which
is
or
the
pond,
which
is
a
reuse
of
the
existing
Pond
and
then
the
bike
and
Trail
area,
I'm
gonna
ask
Bob
to
comment
on
the
bike
park
because
he
was
integral
in
that
project.
Yeah.
R
The
the
bike
park
space-
you
know
we're
looking
at
here,
there's
a
lot
more
complexity
with
the
Boise
Bike
Park,
because
that's
part
of
that
floodway
system
for
the
entire
city
of
Boise
in
the
Foothills
and
that
whole
drainage
there.
So
it's
a
lot
more
complexity
to
that
in
the
in
a
functionality.
Perspective,
scale,
wise
I,
think
we're
simpler
here,
probably
not
quite
as
organized
as
the
the
Boise
Bike,
Park
and
I
think
that
was
intentional.
With
this
design,
you
know
we
wanted
the
pathways
to
be
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
looser.
R
C
O
That's
a
great
question:
well,
the
so
the
movement
District
again
is
the
colorful
playground
area
across
the
pond
and
wraps
around
all
of
the
pathways
our
12-month
a
year
activity
now
I.
It
depends
on
how
adventurous
people
are
and
if
we've
got
a
snowstorm
right
but
generally
for
me
in
Boise,
almost
every
winter
day,
I
can
get
out
and
walk
at
least
so
pathways
are
available
year
round
and
that's
when
the
river's
low.
That's
when
it's
dry
are
that
area
we
think,
has
some
openings.
O
So
if
there's
a
flood
event,
water
can
back
into
those
spaces.
We
don't
have
a
side,
Channel
concept,
but
we
do
have
a
back-end
kind
of
flood
mitigation
availability.
So
we
can
soak
up
some
flood
water
or
excess
water
in
the
winter.
Those
areas
are
dry
for
River
water
dry,
they
might
have
snow
or
moisture,
but
the
pathway
system
would
be
would
be
available
and
open
and
the
dog
park
I.
Think
dog
park.
Users
are
pretty
hearty.
O
P
J
Like
to
visit
the
whole
thing,
but
I
am
intrigued
by
some
of
the
areas
that
they,
the
perceived
risk.
Look
to
me
like
got
a
better
risk.
J
J
O
That's
a
good
question:
there's
different
models
for
how
incubator
or
kitchen
incubators
are
managed,
and
we
haven't
done
one
I've
researched
it
I've
read
about
it.
I
think
it's
an
amazing
idea:
I
have
a
cousin
who
makes
crackers.
She
got
a
master's
degree
in
mechanical
engineering.
O
Quit
engineering
rented
space
in
a
commercial
kitchen
makes
crackers,
sells
them
in
specialty
food
shops
at
wine
tastings
things
like
that.
It's
our
whole
living
and
I'm
her
cousin,
so
I've
ordered
these
crackers
and
paid
the
shipping
from
Boulder
too.
But
how
is
it
managed,
I
think
there's
different
models.
We'd
need
to
look
into
that
more
clearly,
because
it's
going
to
take
an
investment.
If
you
read
on
kitchen
incubators
very
few
of
them
break
even
okay,
it
is
a
supplemented
activity
in
order
to
drive
the
kind
of
down
the
line
success
of
food
entrepreneurs.
O
It
is,
if
you
create
one
that
charges
full
rate
and
then
it
becomes
the
barrier
just
like
any
other
kitchen,
so
the
management
of
it.
That
is
an
excellent
question
and
something
we
really
have
to
dig
in
on,
especially
with
your
people
who
would
be
charged
with
that
management.
N
O
Absolutely
I
I
think
the
opportunity
for
food
truck
parks
and
what
happens
in
Greenacres
and
how
successful
that
has
proven
to
been
to
be
that
can
be
emulated.
There's
enough
distance
between
that
facility
and
this
location
you
could.
We
could
absolutely
do
the
same
thing.
Have
you
you've
been
there
yeah.
O
O
And
that's
a
pretty
low
investment
right,
they
need
a
place
to
park
and
if
you
can
provide
a
little
bit
of
shade
and
some
seating
areas,
you've
got
a
food
truck
Park
zoning
matters
right
because
it's
a
specific
type
of
use,
but
that
can
be
overcome.
That's
that's
not
impossible.
That's
just
go
through
the
process.
Kind
of
a
thing,
I
think
that's
a
good!
That's
low-hanging!
Fruit!
That's
a
good
one!
To
go
for
right
away!.
E
Well,
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
destination
playground,
because
you
know
I
do
like
the
idea
of
us
having
something
that
nobody
else
has
you
know
the
park
I
go
to
the
most
is
the
the
White
River
Park
and
Esther
Simplot
and
I
think
their
playground
is
a
little
underwhelming.
E
Are
you
pretty
familiar
with
all
the
design
elements
at
Esther,
Simplot
Park?
Yes,
one
thing
I
noticed
is
I
think
maybe
some
designers
who
designed
that
possibly
sacrifice
some
Play
Elements
for
an
aesthetic,
that's
more
appealing
to
adults
and
kids.
You
know,
for
instance,
they
got
all
these
large
tall,
colorful
poles
that
don't
seem
to
be
any
purpose
other
than
just
they
look
neat,
but
for
kids
I,
don't
think
they're
that
impressive.
E
They
have
a
couple
of
slides
that
are
carved
into
kind
of
Boulders,
and
so
it
looks
neat
there's
Boulders
everywhere
around
these
slides,
but
it's
not
the
safest
thing
for
kids
to
be
running
up
and
down
on
Boulders,
but
I
think
it
looks
cool
to
adults.
So
my
question
is:
what
is
your
design
sensibility
and
you
think
you
can
you
know
more
appropriately
design
a
park
for
kids,
not
something
that
just
adults
will
think
looks
neat
yeah.
O
Good
question,
so
you
got
six
designers
up
here,
we're
all
going
to
have
our
own
kind
of
style.
Probably
Bob
did
the
Discovery
Park,
the
newest
Meridian
Park
playground
I
worked
on.
Settlers
did
a
lot
of
that
one
Christopher's
own
Park
design,
two
winning
things
for
kids,
water
and
risk,
and
when
you
you,
if
you
design
for
parents
you're
not
going
to
have
either
because
as
a
parent
I
don't
want
either
of
it
right.
O
It's
like
oh,
my
gosh,
my
kids
are
grown
now,
but
I
have
not
forgotten
what
it's
like
to
try
to
manage
a
child
at
a
playground,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
the
kid
plays
hard
all
day
and
falls
asleep
on
the
way
home,
I
think
you've
got
a
winning
playground.
If
you
integrate
water
play
and
perceived
risk,
that's
going
to
be
a
winner
for
the
kids.
So
that's
that's
how
we
would
approach
it.
O
What
that
really
looks
like
we
try
to
depict
it
in
this
graphic,
which
does
look
pretty
risky,
but
those
kids
are
safe.
That's
a
fully
enclosed
Bridge
trust
us.
O
You
can
do
these
things.
The
this
is
absolutely
possible
to
create
that
playground
right
there.
O
R
So
this
image
here
you
know
that
was
that
was
a
particularly
popular
day
at
Discovery
Park
right,
but
we
have
the
kids
doing
all
of
those
things
playing
in
the
water
playing
on
the
rock
wall
in
the
back
side
of
this
image
is
the
the
playground,
the
play
structure,
the
more
traditional
play
structure
and
all
of
that
space
is
being
used
by
the
kids
plenty
of
activity
around
for
the
parents
as
well
right
shade
for
the
parents,
opportunities
for
concessions,
that
sort
of
thing.
E
And
then
what
do
you
think
about
the
River
Recreation
aspects?
You
know
connectivity
to
to
the
other
parks
on
the
river.
What
kind
of
recreation
are
you
thinking
on
the
river,
because
you
know
the
if
the
river's
flowing,
you
really
can
go
only
one
way.
O
Yeah
River
I
mean
okay.
My
first
thought
is
I
mean
I'm,
pretty
fortunate
guy
I
I'm,
going
to
McCall
Friday
and
I'm,
going
to
paddle
up
the
meanders,
the
North
End
of
the
lake.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
in
this
Valley
that
this
County
that
don't
get
to
do
that.
Okay,
so
I
I
want
to
create
a
space
where
they
go
and
they
experience
and
they
feel
like
they're
from
the
same
Idaho
I'm
from
so
that's
Equity
right.
So
that's
river
access,
I
I
think
you
can
successfully.
O
We
can
successfully
create
this
like
this
feeling
of
this
lower
left
image.
We
can
create
that
kind
of
Splash
play
Edge
situation,
you
you
know,
that's
that's
lower
maintenance,
lower
management,
because
it's
trash
collection,
it's
those
kind
of
things.
It's
like
Eagle,
Island,
State
Park.
It's
like
Lucky
Peak.
Those
are
pretty
good
in
a
boat,
that's
a
whole
different
animal!
You
already
have
that
you
launch
at
Bar
Park,
you
I,
think
you
guys
run
the
shuttle
back
up
or
if
you
contract
that
I
don't
know
how
you
do
that
exactly.
O
This
is
an
extension.
This
gets
us
further
down.
River
I
want
you
want
to
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit
yeah.
P
Absolutely
I,
you
know,
I
think
it
could
be
something
that
we
explore
further
you're,
absolutely
right.
Generally
paddle
board
I
like
to
get
up
Beyond
a
Lucky
Peak
or
on
the
river
there
and
I
float
down
and
then
I
have
to
paddle
it
back
up
right
because
there's
a
dam
there,
so
it's
possible.
It's
doable
and
I.
Think
that
that's
one
of
those
things
that
we're
excited
about
to
explore
is
can
how
can
we
access
this
part
of
the
river?
And
what
does
that
look
like?
Is
it
roll
out
of
craft?
O
B
P
For
future
commercial
development,
and
that's
the
partnership
and
the
agency
communication
that
we
would
have
to
work
through
you
know,
we've
mentioned.
Why
is
The
Edge
The
Edge
right?
It
is
because
of
of
land,
but
eventually
that's
going
to
develop.
So
can
we
partner
in
that
same
vein,
to
make
it
a
great
adjacent
use
for
the
park
so.
B
O
Right
good
question:
so
we
so
you
can
just
see
on
the
bottom
edge
of
the
screen
that
the
large
existing
parking
of
Expo
Idaho
right.
So
that's!
That's
there.
If
there's
not
a
competing
event
or
activity
parking
around
the
Turf
Club
and
the
grandstand.
That's
an
existing
lot
is
that
correct,
yeah,
that's
existing!
We
are
adding
some
parking
As.
You
move
up
toward
the
Community
District,
the
kitchen
incubator,
and
then
we
have
added
we're
showing
added
parking
all
along
the
east
edge
of
the
playground,
the
top
of
the
screen
edge
of
the
playground.
You.
O
Yeah,
that's
fair
and
it's
a
county
park,
not
everybody
lives
within
walking
distance
bicycle
distance
of
this,
so
parking
is
a
reality
at
a
county-wide
park
facility
I
agree
with
Christopher.
We
wanted
to
show
that
we're
anticipating
parking
on
the
edges
we'd
rather
keep
parking
to
the
edges
if
possible,
and
for
this
vision
is
it
under
park.
It
could
be
that's.
That
could
be
a
fair
comment.
B
I
just
live
with
a
lot
of
parking,
that's
one
thing
we
have
is
a
lot
of
parking
and
everybody
has
it
and
then,
when
you
start
condensing
it
and
adding
amenities
to
that,
that's
yeah
that
can
be
problematic.
I
have
been
in
this
business
a
while
and
I
have
seen
the
incubator
kitchen
incubators,
and
they
are
a
challenge
both
renting
cleaning,
repairing,
and
that
brings
me
to
the
big
Park.
What
would
you
anticipate
the
operating
and
maintenance
of
something
like
that
would
be?
Could
you
do
you
have
any
idea
of.
O
Well,
I
mean
you're.
Gonna
have
maintenance
that
you're
used
to
when
people
are
calm.
There's
garbage
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
first
thing
right,
but
the
maintenance
of
the
equipment
itself,
the
surfaces,
those
kind
of
things,
those
are
regular
checking
you
got
to
keep
an
eye
on
things.
Do
you
own
playgrounds
right
now,
playground
equipment
structures,
so
the
the
maintenance
on
the
equipment,
the
structure
itself
I'd
say,
is
low,
they're,
checking
it
maybe
monthly
and
yearly
for
loose
bolts,
loose
equipment
for
areas
head
entrapment
snags.
O
Things
like
that,
okay,
you're
checking
it
repair
is
seldom
it
ages
out
over
time,
ground,
surface
you're,
checking
it
probably
on
a
similar
schedule.
Monthly
yearly,
but
you're
gonna
have
to
no
matter
what
surface
you
put
on
the
ground,
plane,
Synthetic,
Turf,
rubber,
all
that
stuff
it
has
a
lifespan.
It
will
need
replacement
at
some
time
the
the
life
of
those
systems
changes,
but
like
Synthetic
Turf,
we
think
we
can
get
10
years
out
of
that.
It's
warranted
for
eight
people
are
getting
10
out
of
that.
The
rubberized
I
think
last
last
I.
Don't
Bob.
O
Do
you
agree
with
that?
Yeah
I
think.
That's
all
right
yeah,
because
Meridian
has
not
loved
the
rubberized
at
settlers,
but
they've
maintained
it
and
it
you
go,
and
it
looks
almost
intentional,
but
there's
circles
got
out
of
it.
Those
are
repairs
so
they're,
repairing
it
on
an
as
as
needed
basis
and
that's
20
years
or
so
in
so
ground
plane.
C
L
L
As
far
as
me,
and
what
I'm
excited
about
is
honestly
a
couple
of
things
that
you
you
sort
of
hit
on,
but
didn't
dive
a
little
bit
deeper
into
one:
is
the
the
Turf
Club
conversion
into
a
youth
center
and
what
that
might
look
like
how
that
would
serve
the
visitors
to
the
park
and
in
in
your
introduction
you
really
talked
about
the
absorption
of
the
history
and
culture
of
the
area
or
the
Valley
indigenous
peoples.
O
That's
a
great
question:
I
love
that,
because
we
did
Katrina
and
I
have
been
meeting
to
prep
for
this,
and
we've
been
talking
about
those
specific
things.
So,
let's
start
the
Learning
Center.
There
are
examples
of
these
around
too
and-
and
you
know,
Boys
and
Girls
Club
provides
a
similar
type
opportunity.
It's
not
as
targeted,
because
kids
come
and
have
free
time,
basically
after
school,
but
the
Learning
Center
one.
We
think
when
you
have
a
building.
If
you
can
reuse
it,
that's
the
cheapest,
most
eco-friendly
building.
O
You
can
ever
construct
right,
it's
already
there
yep
and
that
can
be
converted
into
classroom
type
spaces.
The
I
guess
our
focus
in
this
presentation
was
steam.
Education
for
kids,
summer
and
after
school,
so
targeted
I
mean
just
simply
the
fact
that
Micron
is
building
the
new
Fab
and
they're
going
to
need
2
000,
highly
skilled
employees.
You
know
in
the
years
to
come
they
they're
ready
to
make
an
investment
in
education
in
this
state
in
this
Valley
and
it
thinking
it
could
start
that
young
I
think
is
very
exciting.
O
But
you
know
it's
really
space.
We
think
it's
space
and
then
flexible
space
and
then
hopefully,
I
I,
think
we
could
look
at
Partners.
Like
does
4-H
provide
steam
education
opportunities.
Are
they
needing
space
to
do
that,
for
kids?
Are
there
opportunities
for
other
partnering
activities
where
you
have
a
space?
Other
people
come
in
and
provide
content,
programming,
I
think
that's
where
you
could.
If
that
is
possible,
that's
where
you
could
really
leverage
that
space
nicely.
L
I
think
that's
that
part
of
his
wise
I
think
just
because
the
history
of
that
site,
given
the
fairgrounds
and
agriculture
in
particular,
I,
think
you
know
that's.
That
was
what
was
intriguing
about
the
food
incubator
or
the
kitchen
incubator
plus.
The
gardens,
too,
is
that
you're
you're
integrating
in
an
agricultural
component
to
a
site
in
4-H.
What
what
can
you
say
about
the
indigenous
and
cultural
and
historic
kind
of
background
introduction
and
how
it
relates
to
what
you
would
do
at
this
park
to
highlight
those
things.
P
Well,
we
talked
about
you
know
not
appropriating
culture
so
being
sensitive
to
that,
and
we
mentioned
interpretive
trails
in
a
couple
of
different
spots
that
could
occur
in
those
areas.
What
what
are
on
those
boards?
What
are
you
learning
as
you're
walking
through
the
park?
I
think
that
those
are
your
opportunities
to
explain,
context,
explain
history,
but
do
it
in
a
really
natural
way
that
makes
sense
for
for
the
park
and
for
the
users
without
just
doing
that
cultural
appropriation.
O
Yeah,
that's
it
okay,
so
an
example.
So
we
do
not
want
a
TP
in
our
playground
like
we
don't.
But
if
is
that
appropriate?
Maybe
if
you
have
a
theming,
but
we
don't
think
the
cultural
representation
is
through
themed,
built
elements.
We
think
it's
through
education
learning
opportunities.
So
one
example.
So
outside
of
Denver
there's
a
program,
they
have
a
gathering
Garden.
O
So
they've
worked
with
their
indigenous
tribes
to
create
a
garden,
and
then
they
run
programs
where
you
can
come
and
learn
how
to
gather
seeds,
roots
use
the
plants
like
they,
the
indigenous
people,
would
have
used
in
historic
times.
So
that
to
me,
that's
the
concept,
that's
how
you
pull
that
culture
into
this
space
or
a
Pioneer
Orchard
where
the
community
can
come
and
pick
fruit
and
use
it,
and
it's
maybe
you
can
get
Heritage
Apple
apricot.
You
know
my
grandfather,
homesteaded
in
Rupert
and
a
University
of
Idaho
sent
him
like
a
thousand
tree
plugs.
O
They
put
them
all
in
the
ground
and
he
had
every
fruit
tree.
You
can
imagine
in
the
middle
of
the
desert
in
Rupert,
so
I
think
there's
that
kind
of
that
Pioneer
spirit
that
you
pull
that
culture
in
you
know
the
Enterprise
of
the
Chinese
businessmen,
business
people
I
think
really
comes
through
in
the
incubator
kitchen.
A
Commissioners
and
evaluators
I
think
we've
come
to
that
time,
wrap
up.
So
any
final
comments
before
you
head
out.
We.
P
A
K
A
Right,
let's
break
for
about
five
minutes
and
come
on
back.
A
G
So,
hopefully,
last
but
not
least,
my
name
is
Christopher
marcinkowski
I'm,
a
partner
with
Port
we're
a
landscape
architecture
and
urban
design
practice
based
in
Philadelphia
and
Chicago
I'm,
lucky
enough
to
be
joined
today
by
my
colleagues,
Anna
darling
and
Nick
Jabs,
as
well
as
our
collaborator
from
Marlon
Blackwell,
Architects,
Justin
Hershberger
and
our
local
civil
engineer,
nb5
Bonnie
Layton.
Interestingly
enough
nv5's
Philadelphia
office
is
three-fourths
below
ours
in
in
Philly,
so
we
have
a
connection
there
right
off.
The
bat
you've
heard
it
now
twice
from
the
previous
projects.
G
This
is
a
generational
opportunity.
This
is
an
amazing
site,
an
amazing
chance
investment
that
is
here
and
we
have
had
an
enormous
amount
of
fun
over
the
last
seven
and
a
half
weeks.
Thinking
about
this
project,
thinking
about
what
could
happen
here
on
the
Expo
site
and
hopefully
we'll
have
the
chance
to
continue
to
work
with
you
all
going
forward
on
this
project.
G
One
sort
of
other
note
is
just
congratulate
the
other
two
teams.
It's
really
inspiring
to
get
to
look
at
the
work
of
others,
thinking
about
the
same
project,
the
same
problem
for
such
a
long
period
of
time.
So
it's
exciting
to
actually
be
in
the
room
during
one
of
these
interviews.
Oftentimes,
you
don't
get
to
see
what
your
other
competitors
are
doing
so
I'm
going
to
start
before
we
dive
into
the
project
with
a
little
bit
of
an
acknowledgment
we're
not
from
around
here
we're
from
someplace
else.
G
We're
learning
about
the
people
we're
collaborating
with
the
people
to
create
new
Landscapes
of
public
occupation
and
public
space,
and
so
it's
this
kind
of
commitment
to
getting
to
know
a
place
in
its
people.
That
I
think
is
at
the
center
of
the
way
the
port
works.
I
know
it's
at
the
center
of
the
way,
Marlon
Blackwell's
Office
Works
and
is
really
at
the
center
of
our
entire
team's
ethos.
G
In
terms
of
how
we
approach
a
project
like
this
another
context
that
we
would
have
the
opportunity
to
work
in
over
the
past
few
years
is
Bentonville
Arkansas
with
the
Walton
family
foundation
and
their
design,
Excellence
program,
and
so
what's
interesting
about
Bentonville
and
interesting.
About
Knoxville
in
particular,
is
how
similar
they
are
to
Boise.
They
are
cities
that
are
growing.
They
are
cities
that
are
set
in
Landscapes,
natural
landscapes
that
are
spectacular
and
in
a
lot
of
ways
does
natural
landscapes
are
so
much
better
than
any
park
could
ever
be
created.
G
But
what
we're
asked
to
do
is
think
about
those
public
spaces
that
are
transitions
between
the
city
and
those
natural
landscapes,
and
so
in
a
lot
of
ways.
There
there's
some
commonalities
there,
but
obviously
Boise
is
different
and
Boise
is
distinct.
We've
worked
across
the
country,
as
I
pointed
out,
as
has
Marlin's
office,
as
has
great
ecology,
who
is
a
central
team
member
with
us
unable
to
be
here
today,
but
based
out
of
San
Diego,
bringing
a
kind
of
expertise
and
sort
of
environmental
design,
as
well
as
prose
Consulting
and
Pros.
G
What
that
means
is
that
we're
going
to
be
here,
we've
had
the
chance
to
be
here
for
a
few
days
in
August,
we've
had
a
chance
to
be
here
for
a
few
days
this
week.
We
look
forward
to
being
here
a
lot
and
being
here
for
a
long
time.
Knoxville
is
a
perfect
example
of
that
eight
years
we've
been
involved
in
projects
started
with
a
project
for
a
foundation,
then
with
the
city,
then
with
the
highway
department
with
another
Foundation.
G
Now
again,
with
the
city
we'd
like
to
be
invested
in
the
places
that
we
work,
even
if
we're
not
from
those
places.
What
that
means
is
that
we
can
deliver
projects
that
are
unique
that
are
distinct,
but
that
are
specific
to
the
Locale
and
the
people
that
we're
working
with
all
that
said,
we
are
committed
to
building
out
the
remainder
of
our
project
team
with
local
and
regionally
based
Consultants.
This
is
an
arpa
Grant.
It's
about
Economic
Development,
it's
about
resilience
of
the
community
and
the
economy
of
the
region.
G
Therefore,
we
are
committed
to
adding
to
this
core
team
of
five
consultants
and
subconsultants
who
can
support
our
work
and
are
based
here
in
the
Boise
region.
We
think
that's
super
important
now
to
the
fun
part
that
was
the
the
Preamble
I.
Guess,
if
you
will,
you
all
didn't,
give
us
a
whole
lot
of
Direction
with
regard
to
what
to
do
on
this
site.
G
That's
going
on
today,
it's
hot
here
it
was
105
I
think
when
we
visited
in
August
it
also
gets
pretty
cold,
and
so
this
park
needs
to
acknowledge
and
embrace
both
those
conditions.
It's
next
to
an
expo.
An
expo
is
a
place
of
sound
and
light,
and
noise
and
enthusiasm
Park
sometimes
can
be
passive
right.
They
can
be
quiet,
they
become,
can
be
contemplative.
So
how
do
we
think
about
those
contrasts
really
in
dialogue
with
one
another?
G
It's
also
a
place.
That's
for
both
locals
the
nearby
community,
the
Boise
region,
Treasure
Valley
region,
but
also
tourism
and
visitors.
Those
audience
have
different
expectations.
They
have
different
demands,
but
they're
all
end
users
of
this
project
and
and
things
that
we
want
to
consider
as
we
approach
the
spark.
G
This
allows
that
Park
system
to
extend
further
to
connect
with
eagle
and
some
of
these
other
communities
that
are
nearby
to
really
sort
of,
enhance
and
and
optimize
that
chain
of
public
space,
the
site
itself,
I
think,
is
really
interesting
right.
It's
a
place
that
people
know
in
the
kind
of
public
imagination
for
events
and
for
entertainment.
It's
not
necessarily
the
place
that
you
think
about
for
Passive,
Recreation
or
for
nature,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
there.
G
Garden
City
in
and
of
itself
is
fascinating
as
a
kind
of
story
of
a
community,
a
community
that
has
its
own
sensibility,
its
own
distinct
sense
of
place,
whether
that's
the
kind
of
the
origin
story
of
Garden
City
or
the
kind
of
arts
and
creative
practices
that
are
there
today.
These
are
qualities
that
we
would
want
to
build
on
and
that
we
have
tried
to
build
on
in
our
project.
G
There's
also,
this
park
is
also
the
centerpiece
of
a
larger
transformation.
There's
a
huge
amount
of
investment
going
into
Garden
City,
there's
an
enormous
amount
of
transformation
of
the
community.
That's
ongoing
and
this
park
has
the
opportunity
not
only
to
be
a
kind
of
orienting
device
for
that
development,
but
also
potentially
inflect
it
in
ways
that
the
county
and
the
community
want
to
see
happen,
and
so,
whether
it's
the
Uli
plan
or
individual
proposals,
understanding
this
park
as
part
of
a
much
larger
context
of
urbanism
and
ongoing
transformation
is
Central
to
our
approach.
G
So
what's
that
all
mean
what
does
that
mean
for
a
park
on
the
Expo
Idaho
site,
given
the
quality
of
public
space
that
exists
in
Boise?
One
could
say
why
not
just
recreate
what
we
already
have.
Why
not
just
build
another
Esther
Simplot
Park,
which
is
an
amazing
amazing
amenity,
an
amazing
amazing
resource.
G
Well,
we
think
there's
a
great
deal
that
we
can
learn
from
the
existing
system.
We
actually
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
set
a
precedent,
an
opportunity
to
create
public
space
on
the
Boise
River.
That
is,
unlike
any
other
public
space
that
exists
in
the
region.
We
can
do
this
not
by
blowing
the
budget
and
not
by
spending
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
that
you
don't
have.
We
can
do
this
with
the
resources
that
you
do
have
in
terms
of
thoughtfully,
considering
how
program
and
Landscape
are
integrated
in
this
project.
G
This
is
a
view
of
what
we
imagine
as
that
Park
here
is
a
sort
of
site
plan
of
how
that
fits
into
a
larger
context.
You'll
notice
we've
drawn
a
little
bit
more
than
our
Park
boundary.
We've
drawn
the
idea
of
potential
future
development.
G
G
That's
really
about
intensive
Recreation,
it's
about
Super
Active
spaces
that
are
immediately
adjacent
to
what
we
are
anticipating
being
areas
of
new
development
and,
what's
immediately
adjacent
to
the
Expo
site,
the
other
60
plus
acres
are
what
we're
calling
the
lowlands
or
the
lower
landscape,
which
is
really
about
the
creation
of
a
natural
set
of
Landscapes
that
are
enormous
ecological
and
biodiversity
value,
so
bringing
biodiversity
into
the
city
in
a
way
that
does
not
currently
exist
into
the
region
in
the
way
that
doesn't
currently
exist.
G
So
we'll
start
with
the
heart
of
the
park.
This
is
an
area
that
can
be
divided
into
sort
of
two
lobes
or
two
Loops,
the
North
Loop
and
the
South
Loop.
The
North
Loop
is
all
about
sport.
It's
all
about
Fitness,
it's
about
quartz,
but
it's
also
about
education
and
event.
It's
ringed
by
a
three-quarter
mile
running
surface
and
is
anchored
by
a
transformation
or
a
renovation
of
the
existing
grandstand.
That
grandstand
in
in
Justin
will
talk
more
about.
G
This
later
is
a
kind
of
public
recreation
facility
that
allows
for
sport
to
be
had
kind
of
a
community
center
if
you
will,
but
also
a
place
to
survey
and
Overlook.
The
various
activities
of
the
park
immediately
adjacent
to
it
is
a
pump
track
kind
of
competition,
scale
pump
track
into
the
South,
a
collection
of
sports
courts
and
active
surfaces
for
pickleball
basketball,
volleyball
tennis.
In
some
ways
we
can
reconfigure
those
and
reshape
those.
This
is
about
sort
of
test
fitting,
what's
possible
there.
G
One
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
this
location
is
that
we've
actually
configured
it
based
upon
the
current
parking
lot,
so
that
we
can
limit
excavation
grind
that
surface
down
and
put
those
Sports
Fields
right
back
on
top
of
it
to
limit
the
kind
of
investment
dollars
that
we
would
be
putting
in
that
location.
The
blue
is
not
a
pandering
to
the
Boise
State
Turf.
The
blue
is
actually
about
a
surfacing
of
those
courts.
G
Given
the
the
weather
here,
you'll
notice
to
the
South
that
there
is
a
kind
of
Entry
Grove
and
then
I
have
the
the
pleasure
of
sort
of
pointing
out
here
that
there's
a
moment
here
where
we
actually
slip
beyond
the
bounds
of
our
site
boundary
and
we
start
to
think
about
a
kind
of
large
event
law
and
that's
that
crosses
over
into
the
Expo
site
in
front
of
western
town
and
is
anchored
then
by
a
project
or
a
facility
that
we're
calling
the
exploration
center.
G
And
so,
if
the
renovated
grandstand
is
all
about
Sport
and
activity
with
a
little
bit
of
rest,
restaurant
and
retail,
tucked
into
it.
The
exploration
center
is
all
about
Partnerships.
It's
about
the
story
of
conservation.
It's
about
the
story
of
agricultural
Heritage.
It's
about
the
exhibition
of
Art
and
creative
practices
from
the
surrounding
community,
and
so,
although
it
becomes
a
kind
of
shared
facility
between
the
Expo
and
the
park,
it
serves
to
activate
this
area
of
the
north
loop
of
the
heart
of
the
park
and
so
just
a
few
images
of
what
that
starts.
G
To
feel
like
there's
a
kind
of
vibrancy
and
a
sort
of
intensive
set
of
activities
here
around
the
courts
and
around
the
running
track.
There's
the
opportunity
to
start
to
think
about
this
both
year
round
and
during
the
day
and
in
the
evening,
so
the
grandstand
starts
to
become
a
kind
of
lantern.
One
could
imagine
starting
to
flood
the
loop
in
certain
areas
that
you
can.
G
You
can
skate
along
it
and
then
this
opportunity
to
take
the
Great
Lawn
and
the
exploration
center
as
a
kind
of
linkage
between
the
activity
of
the
Expo
and
the
activities
of
the
park
along
this
Edge
to
the
south
of
this
is
as
you've
heard
destination
play.
I.
Think
one
of
the
interesting
things
about
going
third
is
that
you
start
to
see
ideas
come
forward
a
couple
of
times,
and
so
you've
heard
this
one
a
few.
G
So
it's
probably
a
good
idea
to
pursue
to
some
level
for
us
destination
play
is
about
splashing,
it's
about
Adventure
and
it's
about
nature,
and
it's
positioned
really
at
the
kind
of
gateway
to
the
park.
The
southeast
corner
and
and
the
reason
that
we
did.
This
is
very
much
in
thinking
about
how
do
we
attract
the
broadest
set
of
users
and
audience
audiences
to
this
place,
and
so
for
us
park
or
for
us
play
is
not
just
about
kids.
G
It's
about
intergenerational
activity,
it's
about
Grandparents,
bringing
their
grandchildren
so
aunts
and
uncles,
bringing
their
nieces
and
nephews.
It's
about
young
and
old,
playing
together
and
socializing
together
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
kind
of
mix
of
opportunities
here,
whether
it's
the
kind
of
Tribune,
seating
and
Community
stage,
a
Sprayground,
more
formal,
structured
parking
and
then,
as
we
move
out
into
the
lower
landscape,
a
kind
of
Adventure
Playground
that
has
more
natural
features
and
character
to
it
in
that
area.
G
G
You
know
most
most
designers,
don't
show
you
views
of
the
worst
season
of
the
year
when
all
the
trees
are
dead
and
all
the
things
are
sort
of
in
the
background.
But
we
think
this
is
a
place
that
could
be
animated
year
round.
In
terms
of
that
intensity
of
play
activity
to
the
South,
we
have
what
we're
calling
the
the
South
Loop,
which
is
really
about
wheels
and
Fields
for
lack
of
a
better
description.
G
So
here
we're
showing
a
kind
of
collection
of
baseball
fields,
Little
League
fields,
as
well
as
a
multi-use
turf
field
and
a
practice
area.
You
see
the
destination
playground
in
the
corner
and,
at
the
other
end
another
sort
of
destination
amenity
that
we're
calling
the
wheel
sports
garden.
This
is
a
typology
that's
becoming
more
and
more
in
demand.
In
many
cities,
it's
not
just
a
skate
park.
It's
actually
a
park
facility.
That's
designed
for
people
on
Rollerblades
on
scooters
on
BMX.
G
It's
all
wheels
that
don't
use
any
sort
that
are
human
powered,
don't
have
any
motorized
backing
to
them
and
it
becomes
this
really
active
animated
space
because
it's
a
much
broader
User
Group
than
just
the
skateboarders,
and
it
allows
for
a
certain
Connection
in
that
corner.
With
the
adjacent
Garden
City
Community,
it
becomes
a
kind
of
Gateway
at
that
edge
of
the
park.
G
You
see
the
sports
Fields
again
sort
of
centered
between
the
the
two
aspects
of
Clay
on
either
side,
and
then
these
are
really
wrapped
by
another
kind
of
circuit
or
another
sort
of
Loop
in
this
case,
less
one
about
speed
and
racing,
as
you
might
have
in
the
northern
Loop,
but
much
more
about
strolling
and
rolling
at
a
kind
of
slower,
Pace,
a
more
casual
Pace
with
the
opportunity
for
trail,
heads
and
other
kind
of
connections
down
into
that
lower
landscape.
G
You
see
the
exploration
center
Beyond
in
the
the
the
renovated
grandstand
as
well,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
this,
one
of
the
things
that
you
note
about
the
heart
of
the
park
is
that
in
these
25
acres,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
stuff
going
on
there's
a
whole
intensive
body
of
programs
and
bodies
of
activities
and
in
many
ways
this
is
the
project
that
we
know
that
we
can
deliver
in
the
four
years
required
by
the
arbor
Grant.
G
This
becomes
a
kind
of
anchor
her
to
the
larger
Park
transformation,
and
so
there's
another
60
or
so
Acres.
That
I
want
to
talk
about.
But
in
a
moment,
I
just
want
to
sort
of
pause
turn
it
over
to
Justin
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
kind
of
Architectural
Components
that
are
anchoring
the
heart
of
the
park.
Piece
that
I've
just
gone
through.
T
Chris
so
Justin
with
Martin
Michael,
Architects
I'm,
going
to
just
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
buildings
like
Chris
mentioned,
and
also
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
us.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
like
to
say
at
our
firm
is
that
architecture
is
really
not
just
about
buildings.
It's
about
the
connection
between
buildings
and
site
and
the
resonance
between
those
two
things.
T
Chris
was
talking
about
beyond
the
site,
but
also
within
the
site
at
each
building
right.
So
there's
the
connection
with
of
gathering
at
the
little
Pavilion
next
to
the
wheels
play
Garden
at
the
arrival,
there's
connections
with
The
Pavilions
and
the
Shea
Pavilion
over
the
pickleball
courts,
views
of
the
revenue
at
the
renovated
grandstand
current
thresholds
at
the
exploration
center
and
a
little
wayfinding
piece
that
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
later
a
little
bit
more
about
us.
T
We
also
like
to
think
about
architecture
as
creating
resonance
between
Nature,
Made
and
culture-made
influences
and
kind
of
working
between
these
two
influences
to
kind
of
bring
out
the
sense
of
place
wherever
we
work
around
the
country
and
and
internationally.
So
whether
that's
looking
at
honeycomb
and
transforming
that
into
a
system
for
a
wall
in
a
beekeepers,
Pavilion
that
you
can
store
little
jars
of
honey
in
we're.
Looking
at
a
leaf,
that's
eaten
Away
by
some
bugs
found
on
the
site
in
Indianapolis.
T
That
became
the
route
clearly
visitor
Pavilion
at
the
heart,
100
Acre,
art,
Nature,
Park
and
then
also
looking
at
cultural
references.
T
So,
looking
at
the
references
of
quilts
made
by
the
women
of
keys
Bend
in
Alabama
and
how
that
patterning
can
be
transformed
into
the
facade
system
of
a
polychromatic
terracotta
at
an
early
Childhood,
Education
Center
in
Detroit,
and
then
also
a
little
bit
closer
to
home,
looking
at
the
the
cultural
influence
of
grain
elevators,
you
know
agricultural
infrastructure
around
our
area,
Northwest
Arkansas,
and
how
that
can
be
related
to
the
the
tower
house,
the
seven-story
guest
house
for
a
client
in
the
heart
of
Fayetteville
that
rises
above
the
tree
line,
but
below
the
tree
line.
T
So
how
might
we
use
this
idea
of
working
between
culture
made
and
nature
influences
here?
First
of
all,
I
would
say:
we've
started
this
process.
You
know,
we've
started
looking
and
and
I
think
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
in
terms
of
understanding
fully
and
immersing
ourselves
into
the
place.
But
what
we
really
look
at
are
the
local
conditions
right.
T
So,
like
Chris
said
we,
we
have
several
different
programs
here
that
we're
proposing.
So
in
really
as
we're
thinking
about
this,
we
break
it
down
into
three
different
program
types,
so
they're,
the
public
Provisions,
the
restrooms,
the
kiosks
that
you
need
just
to
have
large
groups
of
people
here,
but
also
looking
at
different
Park
amenities,
shade
structures,
the
way
finding
Tower
and
then
public
attractors,
the
exploration
center
and
the
renovated
grandstand
within
the
latter.
T
The
renovated
grandstand
and
exploration
center,
further
design
strategies
about
understanding
the
history
of
the
site
right
and
kind
of
leaning
into
that.
Not
shying
away
so
understanding
that
there
might
be
a
transformation
coming
for
the
grandstand
and
abstraction
of
the
existing
stable
buildings
which
offer
shade
and
abstracting
that
into
the
design
of
shade
Pavilions.
And
maybe
even
the
the
Rhythm
and
the
landscape
of
those
structures
and.
T
Translation
of
the
existing
towers
that
are
at
the
end
of
the
of
each
straightaway
of
the
racetrack
and
how
those
might
become
wayfinding
elements
again
in
this
site
industry
place
right
driving
around
digging
into
the
place.
We
see
all
these
beautiful
Billboards
right
in
these,
and
how
might
we
capture
that
Vibe
within
the
architecture
that
we're
actually
producing
in
the
place.
T
G
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
I
hope
starts
to
come
across,
for
us
is
that
the
site
boundary
is
not
the
kind
of
limit
of
how
one
needs
to
understand
the
sort
of
potential
for
success
of
this
place,
but
also
the
potential
of
failure
for
it
that
we
have
to
think
in
larger
contexts
and
and
for
us
as
a
practice.
That's
both
Urban
Design
and
Landscape
architecture.
The
kind
of
urbanism
of
the
park
is
really
Central,
so
you
know
thinking
about
the
kind
of
multiple
connections
to
the
green
belt.
G
Two
shown
in
this
diagram.
A
finer
grain
circulation
diagram,
will
show
an
additional
two
later
on
thinking
about
the
possibility
of
creating
a
new
Main
Street
for
Garden
City,
by
extending
the
Adams
streets
Corridor
up
and
through
the
Expo
site.
Thinking
about
how
that
complete
street
with
you
know,
Green
Storm,
water
infrastructure
and
parallel
parking
and
tree
canopy
and
protected
bike
lane
and
all
of
those
things
for
pedestrian.
Provisions
can
begin
to
guide
investment
in
this
area
and
start
to
transform
the
relationship
between
the
Expo
and
the
kind
of
surrounding
context.
G
G
We
can
come
on
bus
or
other
other
modalities,
but
really
these
kind
of
larger
considerations
are
Central
to
our
approach,
but
perhaps
no
other
larger
consideration
is
more
Central
than
the
kind
of
ecological
consideration
and
that's
a
word
that
gets
thrown
around
a
lot,
but
that
we
wanted
to
really
sort
of
Center
in
our
approach
to
this
park
and
in
particular
to
the
space
of
the
the
lower
landscape.
G
And
so,
if
we
come
back
to
this
idea
of
contrast
of
the
river
and
the
range,
these
are
sort
of
images
that
that
exist
in
the
public.
Imagination
of
Boise
certainly
exist
in
the
imagination
of
those
of
us
who
have
not
visited
the
city,
but
there's
all
these
other
Landscapes
that
are
out
there.
The
Creekside
scrub,
the
wet
Meadow,
the
Upland
Forest,
the
dry,
Meadow
and
what's
important
about
these,
is
their
biodiversity.
It's
about
the
life
that
they
bring
in
terms
of
the
Ecology
of
the
region.
G
The
flow
Laura,
the
fauna,
the
pollinators,
the
sort
of
qualities
that
we
lose
oftentimes
in
a
kind
of
urbanistic
transformation,
and
so
rather
than
thinking
about
the
lower
landscape,
as
this
kind
of
singular
zone
of
turf
grass
or
of
a
kind
of
single
monoculture
of
of
plant
material
we'd
prefer
to
think
of
it
as
a
kind
of
diversity
of
nine
different
Landscapes,
eight
different
Landscapes
that
range
in
terms
of
their
wetness
and
their
dryness
that
acknowledge
the
seasonality
of
Boise
that
acknowledge
the
changing
the
changing
temperatures,
the
changing
precipitation
and
actually
respond
to
that
transformation
in
time
that
this
is
a
landscape
that
would
be
built
over
decades,
perhaps
and
not
just
built
from
day
one.
G
This
is
not
a
landscape
that
we
could
produce
for
year,
five,
but
is
a
landscape
that
we
could
produce
over
a
much
longer
term
and
so
that
transformation
of
an
existing
site
to
a
future
site
is
one
that's
very
much
about
process,
it's
very
much
about
operations,
and
it's
very
much
about
a
different
attitude
towards
public
space
within
the
Boise
region.
But
not
an
attitude,
that's
impossible
to
achieve
it's
actually
quite
possible
to
to
achieve
so
for
us
that
transformation
begins
with
a
simple
consideration
of
water.
G
If
you
heard
today,
the
water
is
very
Central
to
the
identity
of
the
site.
If
you
look
back
to
the
1950s,
what
you
realize
is
over
half
the
site
used
to
be
part
of
the
braid.
It
was
part
of
the
Boise
River
before
it
was
sort
of
sort
of
moved
around
and
filled
in,
and
what
that
suggests
is
that
the
flooding
that
takes
place
on
the
site
is
a
natural
Condition.
It's
not
something
that
is
is
new.
It's
actually
something
that's
going
back
to
a
condition
that
was
very,
very
old.
G
However,
we've
worked
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
We've
worked
with
permitting
agencies,
we
know
how
long
it
takes
to
modify
a
river.
We
aren't
going
to
do
that
in
four
years.
It's
impossible,
so
we
don't
even
want
to
try
rather
we'd,
rather
think
about
the
water
coming
from
the
other
direction.
Thinking
about
the
water,
that's
coming
from
the
new
development
and
runoff
the
water,
that's
coming
through
the
Expo
site,
the
water.
G
The
way
that
we
build
those
channels
has
a
certain
material
quality
to
them
as
well,
whether
it's,
the
Weir
walls
or
the
kind
of
play
channels
There's
an
opportunity
here
to
bring
a
sort
of
texture
of
the
landscape
that
exists
Beyond
Boise
into
this
park.
It's
not
a
replication.
We
can
never
compete
with
it,
but
we
can
bring
qualities
of
it
into
this
place.
G
So
you
see
that
kind
of
diversity
of
landscape
types
that
get
set
in
there
against
that
25
acres
of
the
heart
of
the
park,
and
you
can
imagine
a
park
now
that
has
so
many
different
experiences
available
to
it.
That
every
time
you
come
here,
you
can
view
the
park
and
experience
the
park
in
a
radically
different
way
and
again,
that's
all
part
of
a
much
larger
transformation.
G
That's
a
sort
of
shift
both
in
terms
of
Garden
City,
but
also
the
Boise
region,
in
terms
of
how
we're
thinking
about
the
relationship
between
urbanity
and
nature,
just
as
an
example,
these
are
kind
of
prototypical
conditions
of
how
we
might
begin
to
think
about
that
process.
So
you
look
at
the
existing
site.
It's
highly
compact!
It's
denuded!
It's
got
poor
soil
quality
and
by
simple
activities
of
cutting
decompacting
and
mending
and
planting.
We
can
start
to
change
that.
G
We
can
start
to
transform
that
landscape
of
the
the
the
interior
of
the
the
the
park,
the
racetrack
Loop,
into
something
that
is
more
productive
and
more
diverse.
So
as
the
soil
stabilizes
and
the
flood
capacity
gets
increased,
you
also
start
to
see
more
flora
and
fauna
begin
to
grow
and
to
come
in
and
so
there's
an
opportunity
for
nature-based
recreation.
G
There's
an
opportunity
for
citizen
science
There's
an
opportunity
for
a
diversity
of
experiences
beyond
what
might
be
available
in
the
current
Park
Network
along
the
Boise
River,
so
we're
adding
to
that
we're
creating
new
opportunities
for
Outdoor
Experience,
new
opportunities
for
connection
to
these
Landscapes
that
are
very
much
of
the
place
they're
about
the
biodiversity
and
the
habitat
of
Treasure
Valley,
but
they're
in
an
urban
setting
in
an
intentionally
constructed
way.
G
If
we
think
about
the
pond,
that's
there
now
beginning
to
sort
of
figure
out
how
to
clean
the
water,
how
to
improve
the
soil
balance
again,
cutting
back
decompacting
amending
it
planting
in
strategic
ways.
That
starts
to
create
the
opportunity
for
gradients
of
wetness-
it's
not
just
dry
in
a
pond,
but
it's
actually
wet
Meadow
and
other
sort
of
conditions.
As
you
move
away
from
the
channels
or
move
away
from
the
bodies
of
water
and
again
opportunities
for
birding
opportunities
for
Education
start
to
become
incorporated
into
this
experience
of
the
park.
G
G
It
certainly
will
begin
to
look
like
this
as
we
move
into
a
sort
of
second
decade
of
Park
transformation
and
that's
actually
exciting,
because
that
allows
people
who
come
to
this
park
to
see
it
to
experience
to
witness
that
transformation
in
a
way
that
registers
in
their
mind,
they
can
remember
where
the
water
was
two
years
ago.
They
can
remember
the
the
butterfly
that
they
saw
with
their
grandchild.
G
You
know
in
the
spring
one
year
and
that
transformation
starts
to
become
Central
to
the
identity
of
the
place
and
and
starts
to
become
an
opportunity,
as
I
said,
for
recreation
and
education
for
Science
and
play
all
in
the
same
space.
G
The
opportunity
to
bring
biodiversity
into
the
city
cannot
be
overstated
in
terms
of
the
value
that
it
brings
and
what
we
have
here
is
a
chance
to
create
a
lot
of
different
habitats
in
a
relatively
confined
site.
88
acres
is
a
lot
of
room
and
we
can
do
a
lot
of
stuff
in
that
88
acres.
But
the
more
interesting
opportunity
is
to
think
about
where
future
development
of
public
space
along
the
river
Corridor
happens.
G
Whether
or
not
we
can
set
a
precedent
for
that
biodiversity
through
this
project
through
this
park,
so
very
much
about
habitat
creation
and
nature
Recreation
we're
not
just
trying
to
renaturalize
it
to
make
it
look
natural
we're
trying
to
not
renaturalize
it
in
order
to
create
a
sense
of
stewardship
for
the
land.
That
I
think
we
all
know
is
essential
to
the
kind
of
success
of
the
city
excess
of
our
our
sort
of
society.
G
As
we
move
forward
into
the
future
so
that
natural
landscape
gets
embedded
with
program
with
bird
blinds
with
Trail
heads
with
Wetland
areas
play
areas
within
the
creek
and
part
of
this
is
a
strategy
of
operations.
G
Today
he
wasn't
able
to
join
us,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
propose
to
do
at
the
beginning
should
we
be
lucky
enough
to
continue
to
work
with
you
on
this
project.
Is
talking
about
these
cost
implications
in
terms
of
what
it
means
to
build
a
park
like
this,
not
just
in
terms
of
constructing
it,
but
over
Generations
in
terms
of
the
obligation
to
Ada
County
and
its
taxpayers.
G
We
very
much
have
gone
through
an
exercise
in
speculating
and
testing
program,
but
there
really
needs
to
be
an
impactful
study.
We
need
to
be
able
to
understand
cost
recovery.
We
need
to
be
understand,
partnering
opportunities.
We
need
to
understand
the
market.
We've
not
had
the
chance
to
do
all
that.
We've
not
had
the
chance
to
talk
with
you
all
or
the
community
in
thinking
about
this
project.
There
is
a
level
of
service
that
you
all
are
anticipating
or
expecting,
and
we
want
to
understand
what
that
is.
G
We
may
be
providing
way
more
here
than
you
really
want
to
take
on.
We
might
not
be
providing
enough,
but
that's
something
that
we
want
to
engage
with
you
in
defining.
In
terms
of
what
is
easy
and
what
is
difficult
and
then
just
thinking
about
who's
going
to
use
this
place
and
how
they're
going
to
use
this
place
is
as
an
essential
piece
of
the
the
puzzle
and
I
point
all
this
out,
because
obviously
arpa
is
a
great
resource,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
the
only
resource
in
terms
of
how
this
park
gets
built.
G
We
want
to
think
about
Partnerships.
We
want
to
think
about
endowments.
We
want
to
think
about
grants
and
all
of
these
other
sources
that
are
Central
to
the
creation
of
public
space
in
the
21st
century,
and
we
have
the
team
who
can
do
that
with
you,
we're
not
asking
you
to
have
those
answers
and
hand
those
over
to
us.
We
want
to
work
with
you
in
drawing
those
answers
out
so
that
we
can
deliver
this
project.
This
is
not
a
schematic
design.
We
cannot
go
out
there
and
build
this
park
today.
G
G
G
The
opportunity
here
in
this
park
is
collapsing
that
complexity
into
a
landscape-
that's
unlike
any
other
in
Boise,
probably
unlike
any
other
in
Idaho,
might
be,
unlike
any
other
in
the
Western
United
States,
if
not
the
whole
of
the
country
and
I,
think
that's
really
exciting
and
again
that
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
blow
a
huge
budget
to
do
it.
It
just
means
we
have
to
think
about
where
the
priorities
sit
in
the
creation
of
this
park.
G
I
promise
I'm
gonna
wrap
up
here.
We
we
submitted
a
proposal,
our
qualifications
document
in
July,
and
we
said,
there's
a
set
of
priorities
that
we
think
any
park
needs
to
have
to
achieve
success.
It
needs
to
prioritize
Recreation
and
biodiversity.
It
needs
to
think
about
circulation.
It
needs
to
think
about
how
it
connects
to
what's
around
it.
It
has
to
take
on
the
river.
It
has
to
think
about
its
relationship
to
the
river.
It
needs
to
have
high
level
ecological
performance
and
it
needs
to
be
charismatic.
G
G
We
didn't
think
about
time,
necessarily
when
we
put
our
proposal
together,
but
I
think
time
is
Central
to
the
success
of
this
park
that
we
can
deliver
something
in
four
years
that
meets
the
requirements
of
the
grant
that
we
can
deliver
something
that,
in
the
near
term,
next
decade
of
investment
in
Garden
City
provides
for
that
community
and
provides
for
those
new
populations
and
that
we
can
do
something
on
this
park.
That
sets
the
terms
for
the
future
in
terms
of
public
space
in
Boise.
G
This
is
a
legacy
defining
opportunity.
There's
no
question
about
that.
Our
proposal
looks
to
sustain
that
Legacy.
It's
not
just
the
the
money
in
the
arpa
grant.
It's
about
a
much
longer
term
time,
threshold
that
we
want
to
think
about
it's
a
project,
that's
about
economic
growth,
but
is
also
about
environmental
performance
in
ecology
that
those
two
things
aren't
in
conflict
with
one
another,
but
actually
go
hand
in
hand
and
it's
a
framework
for
nature
and
play.
We
don't
have
to
pick
one
or
the
other.
G
G
K
So
I
I
don't
want
to
draw
too
much
attention
to
my
after
work
activities,
but
I
love,
nature
and
I've
noticed
through
the
years
I've
lived
here
that
there
are
parts
of
the
green
space
that
river
that
don't
look
anything
like
Boise
as
you
travel
farther
west
and
even
farther
east
and
it's
development.
That's
you
know
kind
of
made
it
not
look
the
same
and
returning
that
space
to
the
river
I
love
that
reference
to
that
50s
map
and
I'd
written
down
and
circled
and
I
wanted
to
reference
hey.
K
How
long
does
that
take,
and
then
you
immediately
answered
it
that
it
could
be
a
generational
Endeavor
to
to
transform
that
so
talk
to
us
about
precedence
and
places
you've
done
that
before
and
and
what's
the
community
response
to
spending
15
10,
5
million
dollars
or
whatever
the
number
is
and
then
letting
them
know
that
well,
you're
really
not
going
to
see
the
fullness
of
this
for
another
10
years
or
20.
G
So
the
community
feels
like
they're
participating
in
that
one
of
the
projects
that
that
in
a
prior
life,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
work
on
actually
with
Marlin's
office
is
in
Memphis,
where
we
were
involved
in
a
large
part
called
Shelby
Farms,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
Park
project
did
was
bring
Inner,
City,
Memphis
kids
out
to
plant
a
tree,
and
so
the
purpose
of
planting
that
tree
was
that
they
visited
at
an
experience
in
nature
that
they
had
never
had
before,
and
that
in
by
planting
that
tree
it
gave
them
something
that
they
could
bring
their
grandparent
back
to.
G
They
could
bring
their
sister
back
to
and
say,
I
planted
this,
and
you
can
go
back
three
years
from
now
and
you
see
it
grow,
so
stewardship
I
think
is
Central
to
this
and
and
sort
of
engaging
with
the
community
in
the
activities
of
whether
it's
sort
of
evaluating
the
kind
of
Citizen
science
of
the
transformation,
whether
it's
cleanup
events
or
other
opportunities
communities
for
sort
of
getting
everybody
out
on
site.
I
think
that's
that's
where
the
sort
of
managing
expectations
comes
in,
which
I
think
your
question
to
some
degree
is
managing
expectations.
G
Part
of
this
is
also,
though,
that
we
are
giving
the
community
a
really
robust
and
really
exciting
landscape
on
year.
Four
right
in
2026,
when
the
heart
of
the
park
opens
everybody's
excited
about
that,
and
there
is
a
trail
system
and
the
earthwork
is
underway,
and
there
is
planting
and
there
is
the
nursery
and
there
can
see
the
change
coming,
but
that
we
would
use
it
as
an
opportunity
for
Education
whether
it's
through
interpretive
signage,
whether
it's
through
other
sort
of
forms
of
stewardship,
to
to
manage.
T
G
Expectations
of
the
community
I'm
going
to
preemptively
answer
a
question
that
I
hope
I'm
gonna
get
about
engagement,
which
was
asked
of
the
first
group.
One
of
the
things
that
we
love
to
do
in
our
practice
with
engagement
is
get
people
and
communities
out
on
site
with
us.
We
don't
really
love
being
in
rooms
around
tables.
G
We
prefer
to
be
out
in
the
landscape
with
the
users
of
that
landscape
and
the
reason
that
we
like
that
is
because
you
end
up
having
informal
and
Casual
conversations
where
you
you
get
more
interesting
tidbits
of
information
in
those
dialogues
than
you
would
around
a
survey.
We
do
surveys,
we
do
online
interactions,
we
build
digital
models
that
people
can
fly
through.
G
We
do
all
of
those
things,
but
for
us,
engagement
is
about
event
and
about
occupation
of
the
site
that
we're
working
on
and
so
Josh
to
your
question,
I
mean
if
this
is
a
working
landscape,
a
landscape
that
is
being
changed.
We
would
look
for
opportunities
to
get
people
out
there
on
that
landscape,
not
keep
them
behind
a
fence
or
not
keep
them
away
from
it,
but
actually
let
them
get
into
it
and
see
it
and
experience
that
change
over
the
years.
M
I
think
your
organic
approach
is
fabulous
for
the
development
of
the
spark.
However,
one
of
the
main
functions
of
this
area
of
the
Expo
environs
is
an
Amphitheater
entertainment
and
to
take
advantage
of
the
location
of
the
grandstands
for
those
events
and
Bob.
You
could
probably
follow
up
with
more
detailed
I.
I
didn't
see
any
of
that
in
your
presentation.
I
didn't
know
if
that's
part
of
it
or
you're,
going
to
wait
till
programming
nope.
G
It's
it's
a
central
part.
It's
a
little
bit
different
in
configuration,
one
of
the
joys
of
103
slides.
Is
you
gotta
scroll
back
through
them?
So
this
isn't
necessarily
in
that
configuration
and
maybe
I
should
jump
to
the
plan.
But
the
idea
is
that
the
area
to
the
north
of
the
grandstand
is
this
Greek
one,
and
that
great
lawn
has
a
capacity
for
a
couple
thousand
people
to
be
there
and
that
the
exploration
center
is
tipped
and
organ
sort
of
oriented
so
that
you
get
a
stage
on.
G
Western
town
could
be
a
place
of
food
trucks
and
vendors
and
all
sorts
of
activities.
The
effect
is
still
into
that
Great
Lawn
and
that
you
could
have
the
performance
there.
As
part
of
that,
we
would
scale
that
for
what
you
need
in
terms
of
your
expectations.
But
the
thought
was
that
you
know
what
we
heard
about
the
grandstands.
That
sounds
not
great.
G
It
kind
of
bounces
off
converting
this
into
a
kind
of
community
facility
provides
the
indoor
spaces
that
are
needed
within
the
park,
as
well
as
potential
Revenue
sources
like
a
restaurant
or
like
a
a
small
retail
in
sports,
focusing
that
on
that,
but
also
the
views,
the
views,
often
during
the
similar
stuff.
So
you
don't
want
to
use
that,
but
the
performance
of
the
event
was
really.
G
In
that
space,
I
could
throw
a
number
out
Bob,
but
I'd
be
making
it
up.
I
mean
I
think
it's
probably
a
couple
thousand
people
that
we
could
get
in
there
I.
We.
G
Do
shows
okay,
so
that's
you
know,
that's
a
number
that
I'm
hearing
for
the
first
time,
so
we
would.
We
would
right
size
that
we
would
look
to
calibrate
for
that.
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
there's
in
many
ways.
The
way
that
I
would
I
would
suggest
that
we
think
about
what
we
put
forward
today.
Is
that
it's
a
framework
it
sets
certain
priorities
and
it
sets
certain
relationships,
but
it
can.
Every
aspect
of
this
can
be
recalibrated
based
upon
your
needs
once
we
know
what
those
needs
are.
C
So
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
up
that
this
isn't
just
about
the
capital
costs
right.
This
is
a
long-term
Legacy
project
over
decades
and
it's
going
to
take
time
and
Partnerships
and
a
lot
of
funding
opportunities
which
include
sponsorships
right.
Does
your
anyone
in
your
partnership
in
your
group
have
experience
with
starting,
a
or
working
with,
would
probably
be
a
501c3
a
foundation
and
working
with
those
partners,
because
we
see
that
as
a
big
part
of
making
this
accessible
in
the
long
run.
G
Yeah
absolutely
I
mean
I
think
so.
The
majority
of
our
clients,
quite
honestly,
are
501c3
or
sort
of
public-private
collaborations.
We
we
rarely
have
a
client
who
is
just
a
municipality
that
we're
working
with
so
we're
used
to
that
model.
I
would
say.
The
other
part
of
that
is
that
Pros
will
be
exceptionally
helpful
in
defining
what
format
that
could
take.
So
we
can
look
at
other
examples,
other
sort
of
pressing
students
that
are
of
a
related
scale
of
a
related
kind
of
Metropolitan
region.
G
Sort
of
you
know
all
of
the
demographics
that
go
into
that
to
say
this
is
the
model
that
makes
the
most
sense
for
this
kind
of
project.
So
you
know
when
we
yeah
every
one
of
our
one
of
the
things
about
creating
public
space
in
the
United
States
is
that
every
place
is
different.
G
Everyone
has
their
own
model
of
of
management
and
of
capital
creation,
and
we've
learned
and
and
sort
of
developed
a
depth
of
knowledge
because
of
those
experiences,
but
certainly
both
Pros
as
well
as
us,
can
start
to
advise
and
help
sort
of
in
dialogue
with
what
the
park
wants
to
become
Define
who's
going
to
manage
and
operate
this
in
the
best
possible
way,
and
that's
great
to
have
that
happening
simultaneously.
I
think
is
a
wonderful
opportunity.
Thank
you.
G
Oh,
what
about
it?
Oh
yeah,
actually
great,
so
the
exploration
center
to
the
north.
Thank
you.
Nick
Jabs,
from
Port
the
exploration
center
up
until
Saturday
evening
was
called
the
Discovery
Center.
But
then
we
realized
you
all,
have
a
Discovery
Center
already,
so
we
had
to
quickly
rename
it
but
there's
a
project
in
Philadelphia
that
is
similar
in
its
character.
G
That
is
a
partnership
between
Philadelphia,
Parks
and
Recreation.
The
Fairmount
Park
Conservancy,
which
is
the
not-for-profit
that
manages
the
parks
in
the
Audubon
Society,
and
so
the
Audubon
Society
uses
that
facility
for
a
number
of
their
programs
for
exhibitions
and
learning
opportunities,
and
that
actually
Brian
trustee
from
Pros
who
is
on
our
team
previously
was
with
the
Audubon
Society
and
was
Central
to
that
partnership.
Creation
for
the
city
of
Philadelphia.
G
So
that's
a
that's
a
sort
of
immediate
example
of
the
way
those
Partnerships
could
get
created.
Thank
you.
E
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
when
we
were
here
in
August
was
that
this
is
public
money
and
therefore
this
park
needs
to
be
very
public
with
the
arpa
grants.
So
we
have
conceptualized
this
project
very
much
as
a
hundred
percent
public.
So
there
isn't
necessarily
anything
in
this
that
wouldn't
be
available
for
use.
G
However,
we
do
think
about
the
particular,
the
expiration
Center
and
the
grandstand
as
being
Revenue
generators,
in
the
sense
that
you
could
have
a
kind
of
destination
restaurant
that
has
a
beer
garden
that
has
views
out
over
the
landscape
that
people
coming
to
the
Expo
could
come
to.
You
might
have
small
retail
facilities
in
this
that
have
sports
equipment
for
the
mountain
bike
equipment
that
would
be
used
in
and
around
the
park.
G
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
know
is
that
we've
got
mountain
bike
users,
we've
done
a
number
of
projects
that
are
from
mountain
bike,
Centric
have
high
level
of
disposable
income,
and
so
having
that
as
a
kind
of
retail
opportunity
in
here
might
be
a
potential
driver,
leasing
out
the
the
spaces
of
the
exploration
center.
Whether
it's
for
weddings
or
other
kinds
of
events
are.
G
Obviously,
the
the
events
or
the
the
concerts
and
performances
would
be
an
opportunity
for
every
new
generation
as
well,
there's
smaller
facilities,
concession
facilities
in
some
of
the
Outpost
buildings
that
could
also
create
revenue
and
then,
depending
on
how
you
manage
it,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
thinking
about
is
structured
parking
or
parallel
parking
along
the
edge.
You
know
the
parking
costs
could
go
into
the
park
operations
as
well.
G
So
I
would
assume
that
the
revenue
story
would
have
to
be
tied
between
those
two
things.
B
G
On
added
to
it,
no
it's
it's
so
on
the
parking
lot
on
the
park
itself.
We
have
three
lots
one
here,
one
here,
one
here
in
addition
to
parallel
parking
at
the
edge
I
think
when
we
calculate
that
it's
about
150
spaces
across
those
those
three
areas,
we,
like
many
of
the
other
teams,
have
been
thinking
about
the
big
surface
lot
for
the
Expo
as
being
a
place
that
can
be
used
in
the
in
the
near
term.
When
there's
not
an
event
here.
G
Looking
at
the
Uli
recommendations,
there
was
discussion
of
structured
parking
that
we
would
hope
to
be
able
to
sort
of
again
go
back
to
that
point
of
an
expo
in
the
park,
B
and
dialogue
with
one
another.
What
we
were
trying
to
show
with
the
Urban
Development
was
really
just
saying
we
know.
All
of
these
things
are
on
the
table.
The
UI
report
that
that's
forward,
here's
a
way
that
we
might
think
about
how
they
would
be
configured,
but
this
part
is
not
dependent
on
what
we're
showing
right.
G
G
And
so
the
capacity
question
I
think
is
one
that
we
would
want
to
work
through
and
presumably
any
new
development
would
have
parking
obligations
Associated
as
well.
So
it's
just
always
curious
yeah
now
by
all
means,
I
think
you
know,
like
the
other
two
teams
we
think
about
this
park
as
a
place
that
you're
coming
to
on
bike
on
scooter
running
on
the
Green
Belt.
It's
it's
not.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
automobile
dependent,
but
certainly
we
don't
want
it
to
not
be.
We
don't
want
the
sort
of.
J
L
G
L
You
do
it
all
the
time
the
integration
of
the
river
and
the
concept
you
provided
I
think
really
highlights
the
natural
resource
components,
the
ecological
components
and
in
a
realistic
manner,
I
think.
That's
that's
important.
I
do
question
a
little
bit
about
your.
Your
use
of
the
proximity
to
the
river
for
recreational
access
to
the
river
itself
did.
Is
that
something
your
team
considered
quite
a
bit
and
and
maybe
sort
of
walk
back?
You
know
into
the
site
more
given
those
I
guess
challenges
with
the
floodway.
Could
you
speak
to
that?
Maybe
yeah.
G
I
mean
I
I
think
so
the
the
facilities
that
are
out
there
are
principally
the
the
sort
of
trail
system
and
that
kind
of
the
the
the
various
landscape
types
that
we
were
talking
about
and
there's
a
there's
a
tower.
There's
the
tower
that
Justin
described,
which
is
sort
of
located.
You
know
out
here
as
a
kind
of
wayfinding
device,
something
that
you
would
see
from
the
the
heart
of
the
park,
but
also
something
that
you
would
see
from
the
Green
Belt.
G
You
know
at
some
level
we
took
the
park
boundaries
in
places
and
we
we
blurred
them.
We
moved
outside
of
them,
but
that
was
one
boundary
that
we
didn't
blur
because
we
don't
know
enough
yet
about
what
the
obligations
are.
I
think
we
absolutely
want
to
animate
and
think
about
program
along
that
edge.
G
I
think
it
has
to
be
there
I
think
we
wanted
to
focus
the
attention
in
some
ways
on
the
community
side,
knowing
where
how
underserved
the
the
Garden
City
is
in
terms
of
park
space
and
thinking
about
that
as
being
our
sort
of
priority,
but
certainly
the
the
green
belt
and
The
River's
Edge
I.
Think
could
be
programmed
in
a
more
intensive
way
again
cognizant
of
the
fact
it's
going
to
flood
it's
going
to
get
damaged.
It
needs
to
sort
of
be
calibrated
to
that
reality,
but
yeah,
that's
that's.
That's!
F
G
F
G
F
G
J
G
N
A
For
coming
out,
thank
you
so
much
sticking
with
us
today,
I
need
to
gather
our
evaluators.
So
if
you'll
make
your
way
to
follow
Bruce
to
the
operations.