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From YouTube: Ada County FY23 Budget Deliberations – June 22, 2022
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B
Clerk
of
the
court
phil
mcgrane
good
morning,
miss
chairman
commissioners.
Again,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
how
productive
I
think
yesterday
was
I'm.
You
know.
I
know
we
stayed
a
little
bit
late
going
through
things,
but
we
covered
a
lot
of
territory
and
I
think
that
sets
us
up
into
a
great
position
going
in
today
to
work
through.
B
I
think
today
isn't
going
to
be
quite
as
fluid
just
because
now
we're
circling
back
and
revisiting
things
just
to
give
a
quick
overview
in
terms
of
where
we
stand,
though
we
are
in
a
fairly
good
position.
I
do
think
we
need
to
revisit
a
few
things
and
trying
to
make
some
cuts.
I
mean
you
can
see,
but
we
are
close
to
being
in
a
position
that
you
know
if
you
so
chose
you
could
approve
the
budget
we
do
have.
B
We
did
a
look
in
terms
of
our
ongoing
expenses
that
are
funded
with
one
time,
we're
at
about
3.2
million
dollars,
it's
okay,
that
we
have
some
of
that,
but
we
need
to
that's
a
little
bit
higher
than
you
know
we're
comfortable
with.
So
I
think
revisiting
some
of
these
things.
I
know
there's
some
decisions
you
want
to
revisit,
but,
overall,
if
you
you
look
at
where
we
stand
now
again
as
a
reminder,
you
see
up
there,
we
currently
have
this
balance
budget
being
balanced
with
27
million
dollars
of
fund
balance.
That
is
high.
B
You
know
when
we
actually
think
of
what,
where
we
started
with
28
million
dollars
of
fund
balance
about
9
million
dollars
that
is
being
covered
with
an
alternative
revenue
source
that
will
just
be
one
time
for
the
one
year
so
that
that
being
said
we're
actually
in
a
lo.
It
looks
this
looks
better
than
it
looks
on
the
surface.
If
that
makes
sense
right
in
terms
of,
we
will
still
have
a
healthy
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
this.
If
you
were
to
approve
it
with
something
you
know
close
to
this
and.
B
B
Time
that
is
correct
at
this
point
in
time.
We're
so
yes
just
to
go
through
all
the
various
sources.
So
again,
just
in
the
general
fund,
we
started
about
28
million
dollars
of
fund
balance
available.
Our
comfort
would
be
about
you
know,
25
right
again,
that's
really
high.
I
don't
I'm
not
recommending
that
just
giving
you
where
our
comfort
level
is,
but
in
addition
to
that
we
have
roughly
10
million
dollars
of
fund
balance
coming
over
from
the
indigent
fund,
as
we
as
that
fund
will
expire.
I've.
B
B
Yes,
but
I
think
we
were
recommending,
if
you
recall,
when
we
met
with
you
about
the
transition
we
didn't
want
to
spend,
we
want
to
try
and
avoid
spending
that,
just
as
we
still
look
at
the
transition
in
what's
going
to
come
of
that,
my
advice
is
to
not
touch
that
you
know
other
than
what
we
said.
It
was
the
1.7
million
dollars,
and
that
really
is
just
to
provide
some
relief
to
the
budget.
Okay,
with
that
central
district
health,
I
think
in
the
future
that'll
become
part
of
yeah.
B
B
Well,
I
don't
think
we
know
after
next
year,
I
think
next
year
it
will
still
be
tony
running
it
here.
It's
it's
beyond
that,
but
really
there's
a
lot
of
questions
the
to
add.
So
you
have
that
piece
and
then
you
have,
as
you
pointed
out,
the
10
million
dollars
of
revenue
replacement
money
from
arpa.
I
mean
again
you
just
kind
of
see
this
stacking
of
one-time
money
that
we
have
not
taken
up
in
any
of
this
right.
B
I
think
you
indicated
not
funding
that
because
the
question
came
up
about.
Could
this
be
incorporated
with,
you
know
the
expansion
of
the
jail
or
anything,
and
so
it's
currently
not
included
in
the
budget.
But
I
will
that's
because
it's
in
the
yellow
there
record
it:
yes,
okay,
yep,
so
just
to
record
what
you
had
indicated.
Yes,
that's
a
no!
Yes!
That's
it.
D
C
Then,
mr
chair
yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
with
bethany
this
morning.
This
kind
of
affects
the
overall
budget.
If
we're
looking
at
the
five
percent
and
then
the
one
dollar
per
hour,
is
that
suggested
for
vacant
positions
also
or
not,
because
we
would
have
a
compression
issue,
I'm
thinking-
and
so
I
just
wanted
clarification,
so
we
can
make
that
overall
adjustment
right
off
the
top.
If.
B
We
need
to,
I
will
just
weigh
in
I
think
bethany
should
weigh
in
as
well.
I
my
recommendation
is
for
all
positions.
You
know
sometimes
we've
set
boundaries
but
because
it
is
a
cost
of
inflation
impacts.
Future
employees,
just
like
it
affects
current
employees,
and
we
really
the
biggest
issue
we're
facing
is
the
need
to
pump
up
wages.
E
German
commissioners,
I
would
concur
with
phil
as
far
as
just
our
history
of
our
wages
and
where
we
do
know
what
others
in
the
community
are
doing.
I
do
think
a
look
at
the
compression
would
be
in
consideration
as
far
as
doing
an
analysis
of
our
starting
wages.
One
consideration
in
talking
with
my
comp
team
would
be
that
the
five
percent
still
be
applied
to
vacants
withhold
the
one
dollar
that
would
help
to
eliminate
some
of
the
compression.
At
the
same
token,
I
will
you
know
echo
what
phil
said
in
regards
to.
E
E
In
talking
with
our
team,
I
do
think
that
that
would
be
worth
consideration
because
the
if
we
don't
address
compression
at
this
point,
then
we're
going
to
be
back
and
again
asking
for
more
dollars
to
fix
that,
so
it
from
from
the
compensation
team.
That
would
be
our
recommendation
to
look
at
the
vacants
and
applying
the
five
percent
and
considering
the
one
dollar
increase
not
being
applied
to
the
vacants.
E
B
Yeah,
mr
chairman
and
commissioners,
not
to
get
entered,
but
part
of
the
reasoning-
and
I
know
the
state
did
the
same
thing
was.
The
one
dollar
is
intended
to
avoid
compression
by
raising
all
weight,
all
wages.
The
same
amount
right
as
opposed
to
raising
you
know
bottom
wages
more
than
top
wages
it
it
creates,
doesn't
actually
create
compression.
It
just
creates
a
static
step
increase
for
everybody,
which
was
part
of
why
the
proposal
was
the
way
it
was.
B
Yeah
again,
I
think,
in
terms
of
direction,
that
decision
doesn't
necessarily
we're
not
going
to
try
and
adjust
the
budget
for
the
small
difference
that
that
would
make
right
the
direction.
Just
as
we
historically
have
done,
you
guys
will
be
able
to
work
with
bethany
and
provide
direction
to
everyone
before
any
of
that
gets
applied
to
wages
right,
but
for
budgeting
purposes.
That's
not
those
vacancies
that
one
dollar
isn't
going
to
affect
the
budget
in
any
sizeable
manner.
Okay,
yeah.
E
If
I
could,
chairman
commissioners,
I
would
absolutely
agree
in
regards
to
the
full
funding.
Even
one
of
the
questions
was:
how
long
would
our
analysis
take
it?
Looking
at
those
that
came
in
as
special
salary
adjustments,
that
is
going
to
take
a
lot
more
work,
I
mean
we
can
still
get
it
done.
I
think
within
this
week,
but
there
are
potential
unintended
consequences
that
I
want
to
be
cognizant
of
if
it's
all
applied
across
the
board
with
those
where
there
might
be
internal
equity
or
potential
leap
frogging.
E
B
All
right
with
that
I'd
like
to
to
shift
your
the
coroner
dottie
owens
has
been
able,
I
know,
she's
extremely
busy
with
a
lot
of
things
going
on
in
her
office,
so
she
wasn't
able
to
be
here
with
us
yesterday,
but
we
had
messaged
yesterday.
So
she
came
down
to
answer
some
of
the
questions,
so
I
just
think
out
of
respect
for
her
time
and
her
ability
to
get
back
to
taking
care
of
the
coroner's
business
kind
of
go
back.
B
F
F
We
are
supposed
to
be
within
90
days
of
getting
from
from
the
day
that
we
do
the
autopsy
to
completion
of
a
report
and
we're
supposed
to
be
within
that
90
day
period.
That
way
families
can
process
insurance
claims
prosecutors
can
move
forward
with
criminal
charges.
If
there's
anything
like
that
going
on
with
those
particular
I'm
individuals,
and
we
were
when
we
brought
in
our
third
forensic
pathologist
almost
at
12
months
behind
at
this
point
we
are
still
signing
cases
off
from
august
and
september
of
2021
we're
catching
up,
but
with
our
current
caseload.
F
It's
just
they're
working
on
reports
in
the
afternoons
right
now.
What
we're
doing-
and
this
is
what
we
will
continue
to
do
moving
forward.
I'm
is
have
two
in
the
morgue
and
one
out
doing
office.
I
will
rotate
once
or
ever
once
every
week
I'm
so
the
idea
is
to
try
to
keep
caught
up
and
get
the
other
two
to
the
point
where
they're
signing
within
90
days
versus
that
six
eight
month
period
and.
G
F
Correct
and
they
can't
even
work
on
each
other's
cases,
so
we
do
a
quality
control
where
on
all
of
our
infant
deaths
and
all
of
our
undetermined,
we
have
a
quality
control
process
where
the
second
forensic
pathologist
has
to
lay
eyes
on
that
case
and
go
through
our
testing.
Our
toxicology
results
our
genetic
testing,
those
kinds
of
things,
but
they
can't
sign
each
other's
reports
out
either.
So
I'm
they're
they're
married
to
that
report
from
the
very
beginning
of
that
case
to
to
completion
and
closure
and
then
moving
forward
through
through
the
court
process.
A
F
So
for
2022
for
fiscal
we've
done
303,
and
this
is
up
to
june
1st,
so
we've
done
303,
ada
and
64
out
of
county
and
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
perspective
on
that
yesterday
we
had
14
cases
and
they
were
all
ada
county
and
they
were
all
autopsy,
and
so
today,
they're
walking
in
with
they
have
one
at
a
county.
This
morning
and
three
that
came
in
overnight,
fentanyl
is
hitting
us
very
hard
and
so
we're
getting
we're
getting
hit.
Pretty
good.
A
F
Anticipate
being
over
600,
yes,
we're
seeing
our
on
suicide
rates
increase,
and
we
are
also
seeing
our
overdose
rates
increase.
Like
I
said
where,
where
I
you
know,
we
would
go
unseen
and
find
one
fentanyl
death,
now
we're
responding
and
having
two
deceased
at
one
location
and
so
we're
pulling
a
lot.
You
know
we're
seeing
quite
a
few
doubles.
A
A
F
This
is
a
discussion
I
was
having
this
morning
actually
and
we
can
revisit
that.
But
until
we
get
some
state
statutes
changed,
what
will
happen?
Is
our
out
of
counties
will
just
adjust
the
number
of
cases
they're
transporting
to
us.
A
lot
of
these
budgets
have
been
set
and,
and
to
be
honest
even
before,
then
we
have
cases
right
now
that
we're
getting
calls
on
from
law
enforcement
and
other
jurisdictions
and
the
coroners
aren't
wanting
to
post
because
of
funding.
F
A
D
F
F
D
F
We
we
built
that
into
the
budget,
because
this
year
we've
had
so
many
illnesses
go
through
and
we've
had
kovac
come
through
our
office
multiple
times
and
we've
been
four
and
five
down
and
when
we
have
that
happen,
we're
not
we're
hardly
covering
shifts,
and
so,
when
we
bring
in
additional
outside
help,
it's
usually
in
the
form
of
a
chief
deputy
from
another
county
and
they
come
in
and
assist,
but
then
we're
having
to
cover
travel,
hotel
and
then
wages
for
that
40-hour
period.
That
they're
working.
D
C
B
Would
I
will
note,
mr
chairman
commissioners,
right
now:
we
have
the
vans
recorded
as
one-time
expenses
because
they
are
glad
you'll
use
them
long
term.
So
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
big
difference
between
funding
it
this
year
versus
next
year,
just
based
on
where
we
sit,
it's
okay,
but
just
about
the
30
000
could
make
a
difference.
I
mean
obviously
30
000
difference
the
other
one,
and
I
guess
this
is
a
question.
I
wasn't
a
part
of
the
conversation,
so
I
don't,
but
it's
just
looking
at
your
revenues.
B
F
Yes,
so
I
did
when
we
did
our
estimations
on
our
revenue.
I
estimated
with
I
estimated
with
the
thought
that
eastern
idaho
was
going
to
have
their
forensic
pathologist
up
and
running
by
about
mid
mid
fiscal
year.
That
is
not
going
to
happen.
I
am,
and
so
before
I
came
down
this
morning,
we
re-ran
those
numbers
and
we're
anticipating
about
366
000
794
versus
the
280
that
I
had
built
into
the
budget.
Okay,.
B
C
F
Mr
chair
and
commissioners,
we
do,
and
we
have
been
tracking
that
and
we've
been
reporting
those.
So
we
can
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
I
know
that
we've
seen
you
know,
we
have
testing
versus
positive,
that's
different
right.
So
when
we,
when
we
transport
someone
in
and
it's
a
potential
suspicious
for
covet,
we
will
test,
but
then
that
does
not
always
mean
that
they're
positive,
and
so
that's
that's
we're
tracking
that
tested
versus
how
many
are
actually
positive
versus.
F
B
B
C
B
C
F
Mr
chair
and
commissioners
may
make
a
comment
on
that.
We
actually
have
done
some
additional
research
on
on
alternatives
to
that,
and
they
do
have
what
they
call
locums
in
the
field
and
a
locum
is
actually
a
licensed
forensic
pathologist
and
they
travel
it's
kind
of
like
the
traveling
physician,
traveling
nurse
gig,
and
we
reached
out
to
a
couple
of
jurisdictions
and
for
a
locum.
It's
two
thousand
dollars
per
day.
F
D
D
B
B
D
K
Can
they
had
a
meeting
yesterday
and
reviewed
some
of
the
companies
that
they've
been
working
with,
and
we
feel
fairly
confident
that
we
could
reduce
that
number
from
5.25
million
dollars
to
5
million
dollars
and
still
have
enough
in
there
to
cover
any
kind
of
contingency
that
we
might
see
come
up.
So
that
would
be
a
reduction
of
250
000
on
that
one
eoe
that
we
have
put
in.
D
K
D
A
C
C
Mr
chair
yeah,
so
we
can
tee
this
up
if
they
don't
have
it
yet.
I
think
one
of
the
items
we
were
going
to
revisit
is
commissioner
davidson
and
I
approve
the
300
for
the
increase
in
light
item.
The
line
item
for
repair
maintenance,
but
mike's
here.
If
you
could
get
maybe
dude
solutions
and
show
us
where
you're
coming
up
with
that
increased
number
and
then
also
how
much
you've
committed
and
spent
this
year
out
of
the
line
item.
If
you
could
get
that
information
come
back
yeah.
C
B
I'm
going
to
shift
over
now
to
I'm
just
kind
of
checking
through
the
list,
some
of
the
things
from
yesterday,
one
of
them,
and
I
think
it
was
my
error
as
well.
I
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
sandra
if
you
remember
the
mental
health
court,
salary,
justin
they're,
just
some
questions
because
of
the
size
of
the
increases.
B
There
we
go
that
58
percent
according
sandra,
that
is
it
because
it's
changing
from
a
part-time
position
to
a
full-time
position,
no
right!
So,
hence
why
they're
such
a
large
jump
in
terms
of
that
position
again.
These
are
funded
through
alternative
revenue
sources,
specifically
the
liquor
funds,
but
just
I
wanted
to
revisit
these
because
we'd
kind
of
put
a
pause
on
them.
C
B
B
I
guess
just
because
we're
right
here,
one
of
the
other
things
so
we
have
the
landfill-
I'm
just
gonna
address
it,
because
it's
here
on
the
screen
right,
so
the
landfill
positions
and
positioned.
So
you
see
on
the
screen.
These
are
salary
adjustments,
there's
some
new
positions
and
solar
adjustments
of
landfill.
B
B
She
can
speak
to
those
just
in
terms
of
having
the
ability
to
review
those
additional
changes,
and
some
of
these
changes
are
even
changes
to
what's
on
the
screen,
and
so
my
recommendation
is
that
we
don't
take
these
up
to
consideration.
I
think
this
needs
further
evaluation
at
some
point
in
the
future.
Maybe
changes
can
be
made,
but
while
I
know
that
landfill
operates
as
an
enterprise,
it
is
still
very
much
a
government
function
and
it
is
required
to
comply
with
the
same
statutes
that
the
rest
of
us
are
required
to
comply
with.
B
I
know
they
may
be
able
to
speak
to
him.
I
know
bruce
has
serious
concerns
in
trying
to
address
some
of
the
issues
out
of
the
landfill
and
he's
mentioned
that,
but
given
both
the
statutes
and
where
we
are
in
this,
it's
not
really
giving
you
adequate
time
to
make
informed
decisions
or
giving
either
the
auditor's
office
or
hr
time
to
properly
evaluate
these.
I
B
Okay,
that
said
we
can
take
up,
and
I
do
recommend
that
we
do
take
up
the
what
we
do
have
that
was
initially
submitted
in
terms
of
these
proposals
again
the
tipping
fees
or
the
revenue
stream
related
to
the
landfill.
So
this
isn't
going
to
affect
taxes.
Landfill
does
operate
as
an
enterprise,
so
these
are
were
funded
in
that
initial
budget
submission.
You
know
again,
like
all
my
other
recommendations,
I
recommend
that
we
approve
these.
C
A
A
C
I
think
at
some
point,
maybe
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
let's
have
opps
do
an
analysis
on
what
the
cost
is
of
us,
bringing
push
and
pack
in-house
versus
what
our
bid
was,
and
I
know
the
bed's.
You
know
going
to
be
a
couple
years
old
by
now,
but
at
least
an
estimate
on
that.
So
we
can
continue
to
weigh
whether
we're
better
off
doing
it
ourselves
or
having
an
independent
contractor.
Do
the
work
be
helpful.
A
Yeah
that'd
be
very
helpful
that
to
actually
do
that
on
a
regular
basis
to
analyze
it
like
every
year
or
something
to
see
to
see
if
we're,
because
we
want
to
keep
the
and
we
want
to
keep
in
communication
with
the
with
the
solid
waste
advisory
committee.
That
is
all
the
cities
because
they're
our
customers
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
overcharging
them
and
that
we're
setting
up
enough
setting
aside
enough
money
for
a
a
new
landfill.
B
D
B
A
A
C
N
Tom
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
the
generator
power
is
sold
by
contract
and
that's
directly
sold
to
idaho
power,
and
we
cannot
tap
into
that
as
a
source
of
power
directly
up
there.
Okay-
and
this
was
to
show
some
green
technologies
that
were
being
utilized
up
there,
as
well
with
the
wind
and
solar
on
the
new
new
office
building.
B
All
right,
mr
chairman,
I'm
just
gonna
one
of
the
things
I'm
gonna
with
kathleen's
help.
I
think
we're
gonna
need
to
make
some
adjustments.
I
just
want
to
go
circle
back.
We
had
kind
of
put
a
hold
on
the
supplementals
as
they
related
to
new
positions
yesterday,
because
we
hadn't
gone
through
the
positions
and
now
that
we've
gone
through
all
of
the
positions
so
bear
with
me
a
little
bit.
This
is
some
of
it
is
just
catch
up
right,
one.
B
I
know
with
the
sheriff's
office
we're
going
to
need
to
go
back
separately
and
work
with
kelly
just
to
parse
it
out,
because
we
approved
a
lot
of
positions.
Didn't
approve
some
of
them,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
to
get
that.
You
know
that
number
adjusted,
but
for
many
of
these
I
think
it'll
be
easy
enough.
So
for
ad
valorem
we
did
approve
those
positions,
same
thing
for
the
assessor's
office
and
I
would
say,
as
I
kind
of
cruise
through
here,
and
do
this
real
quick.
L
B
C
C
G
B
A
D
B
C
So,
while
we're
talking
about
the
sheriff
and
the
medical
model
going
from
not
only
going
from
contractual
to
employees,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
might
benefit
from
is,
I
think
we
still
have.
Dr
dam
rose
on
under
contract
with
indigent
until
the
end
of
the
year
and
he's
a
specialist
that
helps
us
as
a
county,
really
take
a
look
at
processes.
C
Charges
procedures,
what
is
the
most
effective
and
efficient
way
to
administer
medical
and
psychiatric
care,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
it
wouldn't
behoove
us
to
maybe
have
him,
spend
a
little
money
and
have
him
go
and
do
a
medical
model
assessment
of
how
we're
administering.
Since
we
have
about
80
percent
of
folks
on
meds
up
at
the
jail
just
to
have
a
specialist.
Take
a
look,
and
I
think
that
would
really
be
helpful
for
the
sheriff
and
his
team,
because
I
don't
think
we've
ever
had
someone
with
his
perspective
in
his
eye.
B
C
D
B
B
Okay,
let's
so
this
yep
for
clarity
just
make
sure
so
we're
just
making
sure
we
record
it
properly,
but
if
you're
this
dollar
amount
that
is
shown
here
would
be
the
lump
sum
that
would
be
provided
to
jan,
that
is
equivalent
to
those
positions.
So
we
would
approve
this
and
then
go
through
and
not
approve
the
positions
that
she
requested
right
yep,
so
we're
good
with
that
correct.
B
I
B
All
right
I
mean
at
this
point,
mr
commissioners,
we
have
gone
through
everything
you
can
see
where
we
stand,
as
I
noted
at
the
beginning.
Ideally,
you
know
we
look
at
the
ball.
This
is
still
relying
very
heavily
on
a
large
amount
of
fund
balance.
Ideally,
we
would
still
cut
to
be
in
a
bit
healthier
position
in
terms
of
where
we
are.
That
said,
I
I
need
to.
We
probably
need
a
break
just
to
double
check
some
of
the
numbers
in
terms
of
ongoing
versus
one
time.
I
I
C
B
B
D
C
P
Well,
let
me
hey
in
a
moment:
yes,
so
these
are
broken
out
and
just
real
fast
based
on
what
we
talked
about
yesterday.
The
growth
those
are
like,
I
said
typically
license,
increases.
That's
why
that
one
time
cost
is
very
small
compared
to
the
innovation
one
which
has
lots
of
new
builds
and
things
that
happen
one
time.
So
it
makes
sense
that
those
those
are
opposites
go
ahead,
phil
sure.
P
P
P
Maintenance
but
it'll
be
significantly
less
than
that
so
and
in
in
the
case
of
the
big
ones,
where
we're
replacing
well,
it's
not
seeing
everything
I
want
for
or
we're
replacing
like
all
those
switches,
all
that
stuff.
We
already
have
switches
we're
paying
maintenance
on
so
that
cost
is
already
in
flight
and
that
will
just
continue.
So
that's
already
in
our
flat
budget,
the
maintenance
for
those
for
the
old
switches,
it'll
shift
to
the
new
one.
C
C
There,
okay,
it's
just
that
yeah,
I
think
you
know
where
I'm
coming
from
is
I
I
think,
we're
in
good
position
with
one
time
cost
but
being
very
cognizant
about.
What's
that
going
to
look
like
next
year
with
the
ongoing
associated
costs
and
just
be
clear,
with
the
the
board
that'll
be
here
what
they'll
be
dealing
with
next
year,
so
any
others
that
are
that
would
be
high
ongoing
costs,
no.
P
P
B
You
know
there
are
areas
we
want
to
visit.
I
I
should
know
it
came
to
me.
I
don't.
I
should
have
thought
of
it
earlier
as
it
stands
right
now,
one
of
the
areas,
I'm
not
encouraging
spending
more
money,
but
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up.
Nonetheless,
we
have
not
put
any
money
aside
related
to
the
master's
facility
plan.
That
would
be
one-time
money
that
we
we've
placed
in
there.
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
intended
projects
as
I've,
I
mean
the
big
one
that
is
related
to
the
master's
facility
plan.
A
L
B
C
B
B
I
will
say
it's
my
recommendation,
just
in
all
the
conversations
that
we
have
that
at
this
point,
we
don't
we
have
a
balance
in
there
that
could
be
used
for
design
costs
on
some
of
those
initial
costs
related
to
anything.
But
you
know,
with
the
meetings
that
we
have
had,
public
financing
is
almost
going
to
certainly
be
necessary,
so
it
it's
become
so
sizable
as
a
as
a
project,
as
was
outlined
right
when
we
met
with
bruce
last
time.
It
would
be
very
difficult
to
save
up.
B
B
A
A
B
So
a
good
question
at
this
point
I
mean
just
based
on
the
schedule.
You
have
boe
coming
up,
there's
the
fourth
of
july
plus
it
takes
us
time
to
like
take
all
of
this
information
and
compile
it
into
the
budget
book
and
update
the
budget
explorer
so
over
the
course
of
the
next
month.
So
once
we
get
to
a
spot,
we
feel
it
is
true.
You
can
still
make
changes,
you're
technically,
not
adopting
the
tentative
that
will
happen
at
the
beginning
of
august.
B
B
You
know,
I
think,
given
that
we
have
this
week
still,
you
know
scheduled
out,
so
we
could
always
recess
and
come
back
this
afternoon
to
give
people
time
to
to
pull
together.
You
know
whatever
information
and
answer
questions.
I
think
one
question
that
so
a
couple
things
I'll
note.
As
it
stands,
you
see
where
we
sit
one
of
the
things
that
this
budget
still
includes,
which
I
think
is
intentional
on
your
parts,
but
I
should
make
sure
that's
clear:
we
have
not
included
any
property
tax
increase
under
the
three
percent.
B
So
that's
one
consideration
the
in
terms
of
other
things,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
take
this
up
now,
but
right
now
you
know
the
the
merit,
the
cola
increase,
that
we've
discussed
and
seem
to
be
focused
on
there.
The
elected
officials
compensation,
that's
a
question
that
we
should
probably
take
up
whether
that's
this
morning
or
this
afternoon,
just
because
we
have
the
committee
the
compensation
committee's
recommendations,
and
we
need
to
record
how
we're
going
to
address
that
in
the
budget
as
well.
B
We
really
don't
have
a
elected
officials.
Are
such
a
small
population
of
people.
We
don't
have
that
built
in
so
much
as
I
think,
because
you
have
typically
historically
that
would
just
be
fallen.
It
would
be
included
in
this
same
calculation,
but
given
last
year
was
the
first
year
with
committee's
recommendation.
We
took
it
up
last
year.
I
recommend
that
we
take
it
up.
I
don't
have
a
built-in
page
related
to
that,
but
we
should
determine
you
know
on
its
face.
I
think
the
two
easy
options,
of
course
there's
we
did.
C
I'm
good
with
taking
it
up.
I
think,
there's
enough
concern
and
questions
with
the
recommendations
and
folks
elected
officials
and
soon
to
be
elected
officials
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
sit
in
front
of
and
speak
to
the
committee,
and
I
think
that
there's
enough
concerns
for
us
to
hold
off
for
a
year
on
their
suggested
increases,
and
I
would
recommend
we
just
do
the
same
as
what
we're
doing
for
all
employees
this
year
and
then
that
gives
everybody
time
to
circle
back,
because
we've
got
a
couple
of
new
eos
coming
on
board.
I.
A
C
H
D
C
B
I
would
recommend
why
don't
we
take
10
15
minute
break
come
back.
One
of
the
things
I
might
propose
is
that
if
we
need
to
let's
recess
to
the
after,
when
we
come
back,
we
can,
you
know
either
go
look
at
stuff
based
on
what
you've
been
able
to
figure
out
when
you
look
at
your
notes
or
also
come
back
this
afternoon.
Hopefully,
like
operations
can
come
back
with
that
information
or
any
of
the
data.
Well,.
B
B
B
B
We
have
at
this
point
in
terms
of
revenues,
have
not
touched
anything
in
terms
of
the
three
percent
and
in
terms
of
an
increase
in
taxes
for
better
or
worse
at
the
moment.
That's
the
easy
button
right.
If
you
need
it
now,
I
know
that's
not
that's
not
your
initial
intention
just
to
highlight
that
portion,
and
at
this
point
I
think
it
might
be
good.
I
was
just
informed,
I
think
the
sheriff's
office,
the
so
the
sheriff
and
kelly
want
to
address
one
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
yesterday.
B
C
Wouldn't
hurt
for
me,
mr
chair,
just
to
kind
of
go
over
kind
of
the
budget
and
where
we're
at
now,
based
on
conversations
we've
had
theirs,
is
so
large
and
so
complex
to
try
to
deal
with
theirs
with
kind
of
thrown
in
with
in
the
middle
of
all
the
other
ones.
I
think
you
have
the
board
to
go
back
and
just
kind
of
review.
D
O
All
right,
mr
chairman,
commissioners,
what
we
wanted
to
really
discuss
specifically
was
our
dispatch
pay
when
we
originally
brought
forth
that
1.8
that
was
figured
in
and
having
a
five
percent
being
a
cola
and
merit
and
I'll
have
kelly
kind
of
describe
a
little
more
of
how
that
we
figured
that
dispatch
pay
plan.
But
it
has
changed
a
little
bit
with
the
straight
five
percent
cola
and
the
one
dollar.
J
J
O
D
B
J
J
J
L
C
And
then
the
contracted
courthouse
security,
that's
an
additional
755
over
what
we're
currently
paying
now
we'd
like
to
bring
that
under
management
of
the
sheriff's
department.
Your
office
during
the
course
of
this
year.
Remainder
this
year
next
year
start
working
towards
that.
So
I
feel
like
we
probably
need
to
leave
that
amount
in
there
for
now,
until
we
can
get
that
figured
out,
you
said
it
might
be
close
to
that
amount.
Anyway,
I
think
the
management,
the
quality
of
the
service
provided,
would
improve,
but
it'd
be
about
the
same
cost.
O
C
O
With
the
actual
developers
that
have
come
to
us
and
said
hey,
we
are
here's,
what
we're
planning!
Here's
our
you
know,
here's
our
planned
community
if
you
will
and
trying
to
work
with
them
to
say
if
you
want
to
make
it
easiest
on
law
enforcement.
You
know
maybe
this
this
and
this
shouldn't
be
there
or
it
should
be
their
type
thing.
That's
that's
the
extent
we've
been
doing
for
that.
O
C
So
I
know
that
there's
a
couple
of
large
developments
that
are
anticipated
out
there,
but
I
also
know
that
those
are
going
to
take
a
while,
especially
the
one
large
one
hasn't
even
been
in
front
of
us
for
the
application.
Yet
because
it's
coming
out
of
cuna
and
moving
into
ada
county
and
that's
probably
going
to
be
the
largest.
And
then
we've
got
meta
out
there.
That
we
need
to
consider.
O
C
C
A
B
Does
it
just
goes
back
into
the
fund
balance
and
we
actually
project
so
part
of
this
budget?
You
know
where
the
ball
is.
Is
we
do
project
that
there's
going
to
be
a
turn
back
in
terms
of
historically,
the
sheriff's
office
has
turned
money
back
that
just
because
of
their
size,
they're,
one
of
the
big
ones,
other
departments
and
offices
have
turned,
do
turn
money
back.
So
we
we
take
that
into
account
in
the
budget.
B
E
J
O
O
A
G
C
Think,
mr
chair,
the
one,
the
reason
because
they're
pretty
consistent,
I
think
over
the
years
of
what
they
turned
back
except
for
last
year,
and
I
think
that
was
because
of
the
idoc
loss
of
revenues
that
we,
you
guys
dropped
down
about
a
million
and
a
half
that
the
prior
sheriff
really
hadn't.
I
don't
know
if
you
calculated
that
in
as
much
as
we
we
didn't
know
how
much
it
would
be,
and
it
was,
I
think,
more
significant,
but
I
think,
generally
other
than
that
last
year
it's
been
pretty
steady.
B
B
And
we're,
as
we've
noted
many
times,
we're
doing
fine
in
terms
of
that
one-time
money
we've
accounted
for
that
piece.
There
are
a
couple
programs
too
that
we've
talked
about.
You
know
some
of
the
incentives
and
stuff
trying
to
take
advantage
of
that
vacancy
savings
to
create
incentives
to
hire
people
or
do
other
things.
C
Okay,
so,
mr
chair,
yes,
I
think
for
me
for
coming
down
to
you,
know
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
can
cut.
Let's
probably
look
at
non-critical
non-public
safety
sorts
of
items.
I
think
you
know
what
we're
obligated
to
do
is
provide
a
safe,
healthy
community,
and
I
think
so.
I
would
want
to
go
back
and
maybe
look
at
some
of
the
eoes
and
revisit
those
to
see.
If
we
can,
we
can
cut
there
where
we're
not
cutting
into
providing
the
services
that
we
need
to
the
community.
O
O
C
O
Yeah,
so
the
gm
tracking
system
allows
us
to
track
inmates
inside
and
out
well
inside
the
facility
and
whether
they
have
gone
outside
the
facility
for
court
medical
appointments.
Things
like
that.
So
that's
that's
what
that
does
trying
to
look
what
else
we
have
here?
Radio
consoles
deal:
enterprise,
migration,
mystery
information,
cameras,
tracking
system.
D
O
C
D
B
Just
as
a
comment,
mr
chairman
and
commissioner
kenyon,
I
think,
as
we
look
at
this,
you
know
one
of
the
tools
the
transformation
board
provides
is
a
prioritization
kind
of
comparing
all
these
things.
So
if
we
were
to
start,
I
think
kind
of
where
you
started
make
sense.
You
know
it
obviously
impacts
our
department,
but
looking
at
that
re-digitization,
I
think
those
things
in
the
yellow
reevaluating,
whether
they
just
hold
off
on
those
and.
C
B
It
and
yes,
we
would,
but
also
we
can
hold
off
for
a
year.
I
mean
looking
at
where
we
are
in
the
need
to
cut.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
an
area
that
can
be
cut
and
and
to
some
degree
I
think
again.
I
know
the
part
of
that
jail,
inmate
tracking
system,
not
to
speak
for
a
sheriff's
prime,
but
that's
part
of
that
prioritization
is
they've
already
ranked
the
you
know
the
degree
of
importance
and
urgency.
D
A
C
M
P
P
it
puts
sharepoint
in
the
cloud.
Sharepoint
is
aces,
that's
the
county's
intranet
system
and
there's
some
there's
some
difficulties.
It's
not
the
end
of
the
world,
but
there's
some
difficulties
in
that.
It's
an
on-premise
solution,
meaning
it's
installed
here
in
all
of
our
documents
and
all
the
sharing
and
all
that
stuff
one
drives.
P
If
those
are
things
you're
familiar
with,
that's
all
in
the
cloud,
this
will
stuff
it
up
into
the
cloud
alongside
that
and
also
not
at
some
point,
it
will
become
a
life
cycle
thing
where
we
have
to
replace
it,
because
it
will
no
longer
be
supported.
It's
not
there
yet,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
all
the
new
features
and
functionality
they're
building
into
what
microsoft
calls
sharepoint
is
being
done
on
the
cloud.
P
D
A
C
C
Q
Like
the
second
item
down
on
the
first
page,
the
courthouse
cooling
tower
replacement
when
we
did
our
budgets
well
over
a
year
ago,
we
anticipated
185
000
being
more
than
enough,
but
it
came
in
as
you
see
on
the
second
page
at
406
thousand
dollars.
That's
just
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now.
Are
these
cost
increases
and
again
our
goal
is
to
stay
ahead
of
the
curve
and
try
to
get
items
replaced
before
they
fail,
as
there
are
very
long
lead
times
on
these
things.
C
N
N
So
that's
why,
especially
now
I
mean
back
in
the
day
when
we
first
started
this
process
when
we
had
a
reasonable
economy
and
we're
only
two
weeks,
three
weeks
out
for
a
hvac
unit
yeah,
we
could
get
some
portable
units
in
there
and
limp
buy,
but
for
any
in
in
this
economy,
it's
impossible.
We
have
to
plan
way
way
way
way
ahead.
Q
Q
Q
N
Don't
know
what
prices
are
until
we
bid
the
project.
Unfortunately,
we
try
to
prognosticate
as
best
we
can
and
pad
what
we
think
it's
going
to
cost
and
we
have
to
budget
again
and
be
mindful
of
this,
including
the
jail
and,
we'll
probably
have
to
add,
looks
like
almost
another
million
dollars
to
bruce's
number
for
the
echo
pod
build
out.
Now
that
we're
it
looks
like
we're
moving
the
improvements
in
the
front
of
psb
to
the
jail
remodel.
N
C
N
We
did
those
individually
supplemental
by
supplemental
by
supplemental
by
supplemental
and
commissioner
kenyon
was
here
when
I
was
here
for
one
hour
during
my
budget
presentation
going
over
all
of
our
supplementals,
and
the
question
was
asked:
why
don't
we
just
give
you
a
fund
to
handle
those
projects
which
is
a
much
better
way
to
do
it?
Because
we
could
move
things
around
and
as
emergencies
of
rear
their
ugly
head,
we
can
handle
those
immediately
and
get
those
taken
care
of
at
our
discretion.
I
Q
Q
A
B
A
Q
N
D
C
A
C
A
C
Let's
keep
looking,
let's
again,
I
think
this
this.
This
is
important.
It's
not
you
know,
security
sheriff
safety,
sorts
of
issues,
but
again,
but
it's
what
makes
ada
county
special
and
wonderful
to
live
here.
So
we
need
a
lot
of
work.
This
has
been
delayed.
I
think,
for
10
years,
something
like
that.
C
O
So
to
readdress
the
jail,
inmate
tracking
system,
so
again
that's
a
system
where
we
would
track
and
be
able
to
electronically
track
inmates
within
our
facility.
What
inmates
left
the
facility
and
came
back
for
court
medical
appointments
or
even
where
they
went
in
the
facility
we've
it's.
This
is
a
number
of
years
in
the
making.
I
think
we've
come
year
after
year.
O
I
believe
I
don't
know
for
how
many
years,
if
I
was
going
to
scratch
something
on
that
list,
I
would
scratch
that,
with
the
caveat
of
we
really
do
need
a
plan
for
it
in
the
future.
It's
something
we
do
by
hand
right
now
and
in
a
jail
our
size.
That
is
not
really
industry
standard,
and
so
we
put
a
little
more
risk
on
the
county
because
of
human
error.
O
H
O
So
you're
your
cameras,
camera
systems
are
a
little
more
of
a
one-time
cost
with
maybe
up
maybe
maintenance
but
equipping
all
the
the
probation
officers
with
body
cameras
is
going
to
be
a
spendy
ticket.
We
barely
have
enough
cameras
right
now
to
equip
all
the
deputies
with
them.
Everyone
on
the
road
has
them,
but
there
are
certain
places
in
our
agency
where
we,
just
we
don't
even
have
body
cams
for
for
deputies.
So
I
I
don't
foresee
equipping
body
cams
with
the
probation
officers
to
be
the
the
answer
to
that.
O
Yeah
so
they
are
they're
monitored,
I
believe,
by
our
central
control
and
then
our
compliance
deputies
that
work
in
the
office
there
they
have
access
to
them
in
their
office.
So
you
can
see
all
the
cameras
in
their
office
as
well,
plus
they're
recording
so
whatever
happens
inside
the
facility
would
be
caught
on
tape
for
evidentiary
purposes.
O
I'm
not
aware
of
their
if
there's
been
incidents
before
or
not
part
of
it,
too
is
to
help
the
staff
feel
a
little
safer.
We
do,
I
know
you're
all
aware
of
our
probation
population,
but
it's
not
always
the
just
a
drunk
driver
or
someone
that
stole
a
candy
bar
we're
getting
a
lot
of
felony
cases.
They
get
pled
down
to
misdemeanors
for
violent
crimes
and
people
that
are
on
felony
supervision
that
are
on
both
misdemeanor
and
felony.
O
D
C
D
A
B
And
yours
and
I
want
to
make
for
clarity
because
so
looking
at
the
numbers
here,
you'll
see
it's
at
9.7
right,
total,
that's
combined
drug
court
funding
and
general
funding.
If
I'm
following
you're
saying
a
total
cost
of
7.5,
or
do
you
mean
7.5
general
fund
with
an
additional
million
from
drug
court?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
capture
what
your
intention
is
properly.
I'm
not
trying
to
weigh
in.
A
B
C
C
C
G
B
We
can
always
come
back
and
revisit
anything
after
you've
had
some
time
to.
I
can
go
back
to
the
the
primary
decision
sheet
just
to
highlight
a
high
level,
so
I
mean
we're
within
the
space.
In
terms
of
you
know,
our
use
of
fund
balance,
I
think
again
we're
in
a
healthy
spot,
with
our
fund
balance
still
with
this
budget.
I
think
one
of
the
advantages
of
the
budget
as
you've
worked
on
it
here
is:
it
does
not
take
any
of
the
additional
three
percent
taxes.
B
We
do
take
the
new
construction
role,
one
of
the
biggest
things
and
your
first
decision
is
addressing
wages
for
county
employees
just
as
we've
discussed.
So
you
see
that
we
have
the
coroner's
lease
payment
and
then,
if
we
just
went
through
and
looked
at
the
cip
and
eoe,
you
know
the
new
positions
and
whatnot
that
are
approved.
We
can
revisit
any
of
those
if
you
need
to,
but
as
it
stands
right
now,
we've
gone
through
everything.
I
also
just
to
highlight
too.
B
B
A
B
B
B
I
and
I'll
just
say
I
mean
this
obviously
will
come
up
here,
but
my
recommendation
is
that
you
always
reserve
that
foregone
sure,
because
I
want
it
for
two
reasons.
One
in
case
circumstances
change
legislation,
changes
two.
I
think
it's
the
only
the
clearest
and
best
way
to
record
the
actions
that
you've
taken
in
terms
of
taxes,
yeah.
C
B
B
Let's,
let's
you
know
recess
now
with
it,
and
I
don't
have
a
strong
feeling
on
whether
you
want
to
meet
this
afternoon
or
meet
tomorrow,
but
just
to
go
over
things,
make
sure
everyone's
comfortable,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
everyone's
in
a
good
spot.
Then
kathleen
and
team
will
start.
You
know
dotting
the
eyes
and
crossing
the
t's
and
ironing
out
all
the
details
to
prepare
both
the
budget
book
and
the
budget
explorer.
Well.