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A
A.M
on
July
13
2023,
and
this
is
the
time
and
place
for
the
any
County,
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
meeting.
We
extend
our
welcome
to
those
who
are
present
here
in
the
room
with
us,
as
well
as
anyone
who
may
be
joining
online,
we'll
begin
with
a
roll
call
of
the
Commissioners.
At
the
outset
we
will
excuse
Commissioners
Exton
commissioner
retzlaff
and
commissioner
Coulson,
who
are
not
able
to
be
with
us
today.
Commissioner
blitman.
A
Wickstrom
here,
commissioner
Scott
here
and
I'm,
commissioner
Birch
and
I'll
be
conducting
a
meeting
this
evening.
Just
for
your
information.
The
way
that
this
meeting
will
work
is
that
staff
will
make
a
presentation
after
staff,
mixed
presentation
and
the
Commissioners
asked
questions
of
them.
The
applicant
will
come
forward.
The
applicant
will
be
given
an
opportunity
to
make
a
presentation.
A
After
that
there
will
be
open
to
the
public
and
after
the
public,
then
the
applicant
will
have
an
opportunity
for
a
rebuttal,
and
then
the
public
portion
of
the
meeting
will
close
and
the
Commissioners
will
consider
the
application
with
that
I
believe
we
are
ready
for
the
first
item,
which
is
classes
on
here.
Item.
A
C
Chairman
Commissioners
project,
20230645
cumsp,
it's
a
conditional
use
in
master
site
plan,
application
for
a
club,
Lodge
or
social
hall
for
Farm
related
events.
The
property
is
located
at
5600,
West,
Beacon
Light
Road
and
consists
of
approximately
20
acres
in
the
rural
urban
transition
District.
The
access
point
for
the
road,
however,
will
be
off
of
Lane
Wood
Lane,
which
runs
on
the
Eastern
side
of
the
property.
C
C
There
is
no
outdoor
lighting
proposed,
except
for
decorative
string
lights
unless
approved
by
an
additional
lighting
plan,
and
they
have
proposed
two
speakers
for
music.
They
would
be
oriented
internally
toward
the
property
and
away
from
Lanewood
Lane
for
parking.
They
have
proposed
an
alternative
parking
plan
to
utilize
the
northern
Alfalfa
field
on
the
site
for
parking
up
to
132
Vehicles
as
a
condition
of
approval.
380A
parking
spaces
are
required.
C
C
We
received
standard
comments
from
responding
agencies
and
one
neighbor
comment.
The
concerns
from
the
neighbor
were
that
there
are
too
many
events
proposed
that
it
may
cause
parking
problems
that
could
cause
unsafe
conditions.
They
were
concerned
about
the
increase
in
noise
from
the
events,
the
serving
of
alcohol
and
the
allowance
of
outdoor
outside
vendors.
C
They
did
propose
some
additional
conditions
that
include
reducing
the
number
of
events
limiting
the
number
of
guests,
further
prohibiting
alcohol,
requiring
traffic
and
parking
control
during
events
and
prohibiting
parking
on
Beacon,
Light
Road.
C
We
do
have
some
Key
conditions
and
these
conditions
directly
align
with
what
was
proposed
by
the
applicant.
They
include
limiting
the
number
of
events
to
the
proposed
20
Farm
nights,
20
Farm,
dinners,
the
pumpkin
patch
only
in
October,
and
only
on
weekends,
and
only
10.
Other
events
allowed
as
rentals.
C
The
applicant
did
request
that
two
conditions
be
removed,
which
are
the
requirements
for
Ada
accessible,
improved
parking
spaces
and
for
the
type
1
Hood
to
be
installed
in
the
residential
kitchen
staff
is
not
supportive
of
the
removal
of
these
conditions.
Any
business
related
use
within
Ada
County
is
required
to
have
Ada
parking,
and
the
installation
of
the
hood
is
required
from
the
fire
code.
C
B
I
I
wondered
on
the
extra
events,
so
the
10
events
a
year.
Is
there
a
limit
on
the
number
of
people
for
those
10
events.
C
Chairman
commissioner
blitman,
the
condition
of
approval
does
not
include
a
limit
on
that.
The
proposal
did
indicate
that
it
would
follow
the
proposal
for
the
other
events,
so
the
maximum
that
is
listed
would
be
a
hundred.
So
you
could
add
that
if
you
wanted
to
change
the
condition
to
have
a
list
of
number
of
guests.
D
Thank
you,
chairman
you're,
answering
all
my
questions
between
the
two
of
you,
but
an
alcohol
license
will
be
required
if
they're
going
to
serve
alcohol
at
the
at
their
events.
C
Chairman
commissioner
Wickstrom,
an
alcohol
license
would
be
needed
through
the
catering
process
us,
which
is
allowed
with
an
event
center.
All.
A
E
Name
is
Jordan
Miller
I
live
at
5600,
West,
Beacon,
Light
Road
in
Eagle
Idaho,
and,
thank
you
guys
very
much
for
your
time.
This
evening.
We
appreciate
it.
E
I
run
good
life
Farms
alongside
my
husband,
Thomas
Smith
Who
is
the
co-applicant,
and
our
property
is
roughly
a
20
acre
triangle
on
the
northwest
corner
of
Beacon
Light
Road
and
Lane
Wood
Lane.
As
Corey
mentioned,
we
Homestead
the
property.
We
live
in
the
primary
residence
and
we
Farm
the
surrounding
acreage
under
good
life.
Farms
LLC.
E
In
light
of
the
ever-changing
economic
development
of
the
greater
Eagle
Area,
our
primary
goal
at
this
time
is
merely
to
grow
our
business
to
a
state
of
viability
such
that
we
might
be
able
to
preserve
our
farm
as
it
exists
today,
Sans
any
additional
development
in
the
spirit
we
are
seeking
an
event
center
classification.
Our
mission
is
to
present
visitors
with
a
chance
to
interact
with
a
working
farm
where
food
is
grown
and
harvested
as
we
have
outlined
in
our
application.
Our
events
do
include
Farm
nights,
Farm,
dinners
and
pumpkin
patches.
E
The
term
Event
Center
carries
a
lot
of
connotations,
some
of
which
are
negative
and
triggering,
but
what
takes
place
at
GoodLife
Farms
are
truly
small,
privately
held
Gatherings,
wherein
attendees
have
access
only
to
our
our
outdoor
growing
areas,
our
fields
and
a
portable
toilet.
So
there
are
no
major
infrastructural
improvements
that
we
wish
to
do
on
our
property,
and
as
such,
we
do
ask
for
the
removal
of
two
conditions
of
approval,
just
because
they're
a
little
misaligned
with
the
current
nature
of
our
property
for
the
three
accessible
improved
parking
spaces.
E
Our
farm
is
a
natural
landscape.
It
possesses
many
many
uneven
surfaces
that
make
access
via
wheelchair
or
another
Mobility
assisted
device,
nearly
impossible.
Someone
could
come
to
our
property
and
park
in
a
designated
space,
but
they
would
have
a
really
hard
time
walking
around
and
enjoying
it
in
the
first
place.
So,
for
this
reason,
we
we
do
request
that
this
is
not
something
that
we're
required
for
this
application,
and
what
we
would
suggest
instead
is
that
we
make
this
a
decline.
E
The
second
condition
receiving
approval
for
a
type
1
Hood
installed
at
or
above
all,
commercial
cooking
appliances.
We
also
do
requests
removing
this
condition,
simply
because
our
kitchen
is
in
our
private
home.
E
We
produce
a
very
small
amount
of
cooked
food
per
event
via
private
catering,
and
we
rely
primarily
on
incorporating
freshly
grown
products
from
our
property,
so
fruits,
vegetables,
eggs
that
we've,
you
know,
fostered
right
there
at
Good,
Life
Farms
from
time
to
time,
we'll
generate
baked
goods
from
our
oven,
but
we
really
do
strive
to
produce
explicitly
healthy
dishes
with
limited
grease
or
oil,
and
overall
our
food
production
does
not
exceed
that
which
you
would
expect
of
a
large
family.
You
know
what
they
would
prepare
for
an
average
dinner
and
to
boot.
E
All
of
our
appliances
are
electric,
so
at
no
time
will
event
attendees
ever
enter
our
home
or
cook
in
our
private
kitchen.
It's
strictly
not
what
we
plan
to
do
with
any
of
our
events.
E
It's
not
for
rent,
and
it's
not
a
commercial
kitchen,
and
with
that
just
to
to
summarize,
the
purpose
of
our
farm
is
to
feed
ourselves
our
loved
ones
and
any
neighbors
with
a
desire
to
forge
an
honest
relationship
with
their
food
and
the
people
who
grow
it.
Our
name
embodies
what
we
want
for
ourselves
for
our
animals
and
the
members
of
our
community.
Good
life
Farms
means
a
simple,
honest
and
well-lived
life.
E
We
value
quality
over
quantity
and
strive
to
provide
our
visitors
with
an
intimate
opportunity
to
understand
exactly
where
their
food
comes
from,
and
with
that
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
continue
on
this
Mission
via
a
conditional
use.
Permit
that
enhances
our
ability
to
persist
as
a
profitable
working
farm.
Are
there
any
questions?
I
can
help
answer
for
you.
Thank.
E
That's
a
great
question
so
for
our
farm
nights
we're
just
allowing
people
to
come
onto
our
property,
both
events
are
ticketed.
The
only
primary
difference
is
that
a
farm
dinner
is
a
formal
sit-down
dinner
that
involves
no
more
than
16
people.
They
kind
of
remain
seated
at
our
tables,
whereas
with
a
farm
night,
people
can
play
horseshoes
or
explore
the
property
at
their
leisure.
F
One
follow:
how:
how
are
you
going
to
be
feeding
on
that
farm
dinner?
Is
it
going
to
be
catered
coming
from
the
outside,
or
is
it
going
to
be
coming
from
your
own?
You
said
that
you're
not
going
to
have
people
come
in
your
house.
Obviously,
but
are
you
guys
going
to
be
cooking
for
them
or,
yes,.
E
So
my
intention
and
I
understand
that
this
is
a
part
of
this
application.
E
Catering
permit
I
am
a
I'm
a
cook,
so
I
will
incorporate
the
ingredients
that
we
grow
directly
on
the
farm
and
everything
will
be
prepared
same
day
which,
based
on
my
research
of
catering
permits
and
private
catering,
does
kind
of
preclude
some
of
the
need
for
large
commercial
kitchens.
If
you
are
not
doing
storage
or
anything
like
that
over
long
periods
of
time,
I
believe
it
is
acceptable
to
have
a
caterer
come
into
a
private
home
in
order
to
produce
food
at
a
private
event.
E
F
So
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
because,
if
there's
like
a
caterer,
bringing
the
food
in
and
and
you've
kind
of
answered
it,
because
it's
going
to
be
your
guys's
own
ingredients
versus
them
cooking
and
using
your
facilities
trying
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
work.
This
out,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
cooking.
E
E
So
we
are,
you
know,
we're
not
against
commercial
hood.
As
the
you
know,
conditions
of
approval
State.
We
have
a
two-year
timeline
to
do
so.
We
ultimately
believe
that
is
something
we
could
achieve.
If
need
be.
You
know
it
is
just
a
little
wonky
to
have
a
large
commercial
Appliance
in
a
kitchen
wearing.
Nothing
else
is
commercial
in
nature
and
again
I.
My
understanding
is
that
a
private
caterer
who
seeks
the
proper
licensing
is
able
to
cook
in
a
private
home,
a
non-commercial
home.
B
I've
got
questions
about
the
parking,
so
we've
got.
The
big
Alfalfa
field
is
that,
where
all
the
parking
is
going
to
be
or
just
the
parking
during
the
Pumpkin
Festival
that.
E
Is
where
all
parking
will
be?
The
great
thing
about
our
property
is
that
it
abuts
Lane
wood,
which
is
a
private
road?
The
access
point
is,
you
know:
10
acres
in
linear
distance
away
from
Beacon
Light
Road
people
can
pull
seamlessly
into
our
property
with
the
Ingress
pathway.
There's
a
gate
there
that
we
open
park
right
in
the
Alfalfa
field
and
we
also
have
an
exit
pathway
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
field
where
people
can
drive
on
out.
So
no
traffic
back
up
on
Lane
wood,
just
parking
in
an
old
Alfalfa
field.
B
D
And
you're
I
think
it
was
what
you
had
written.
You
have
a
sounds
like
a
wine
pickup
thing
where
you
have
produce
pickup,
you
have
people
who
come
through
they
put
in
an
order,
I
imagine
and
they
can
kind
of
file
through.
Is
that
kind
of
an
ongoing
part
of
your
business
as
well.
Yeah.
E
So
currently
we
still
have
a
Farm
Stand
permit,
which
enables
us
to
yeah
pick
our
produce.
Allow
people
to
you
know,
make
payments
in
advance
and
then
come
collect
on
their
baskets.
We've
not
been
doing
that
this
year.
Our
intention
instead
was
to
just
take
advantage
of
the
visitors
who
attend
at
Farm
dinners
or
Farm
nights
or
the
pumpkin
patch,
and
just
have
our
vegetables
there
available
for
purchase.
B
E
Absolutely
I'll
speak
to
the
alcohol
first,
so
we
happen
to
be
in
Eagles,
amazing
viticulture
area,
so
we're
surrounded
by
local
wineries,
including
Sol,
Invictus,
dude,
DeWalt
and
through
horse
ranch
Vineyards,
and
what
we
were
hoping
to
do
is
include
what
we
would
consider
you
know:
complementary
bottles
of
wine
with
Farm
dinners
and
or
Farm
nights.
So
instead
of
you
know,
hustling
individual
drinks,
a
part
of
the
experience
would
be
a
bottle
of
wine
to
share
amongst,
to
you
know
two
people
on
a
date
at
the
farm
dinner.
E
You
know
any
we've
not
thought
very
far
beyond
that.
It's
not
a
central
part
of
what
we
aim
to
do,
but
we,
you
know
we're
good
friends
with
dude
DeWalt
and
we
kind
of
exchange
business,
and
so
we
we
really
love
the
idea
of
pairing
our
food
with
with
local
wines.
E
With
regard
to
number
of
attendees,
I.
Think,
as
Corey
stated,
what
we're
hoping
to
for
Farm
dinners
is
up
to
16
people
I.
E
Don't
think
that
I
can
cook
a
five
course
meal
for
any
more
than
that
for
the
the
farm
nights
we've
said
up
to
50,
although
again,
based
on
you
know
what
we're
able
to
accommodate
you
know,
that's
the
maximum,
we're
kind
of
trying
to
buffer
ourselves
at
the
upper
end
and
then
a
really
important
thing
to
clarify
with
regard
to
the
pumpkin
patch,
because
I
think
that
there
are
some
there's
some
nervousness
around.
That
is
that
you
know
we
set
up
to
100
at
at
any.
E
Given
time
time
we
have
actually
hosted
pumpkin
patches
since
2020,
with
authorization
from
the
county.
Lyons
helped
us
with
our
Farm
Stand
permits
that
have
enabled
that,
and
you
know
we
have
had
a
handful
of
people
on
our
property
at
any
given
time
and
I
describe
that
as
come
and
go
because
we
don't
sell
tickets
in
advance
of
that
event,
people
can
come
they
park
on
the
Alfalfa
patch.
They
pick
a
pumpkin,
they
take
off.
So
the
density
there,
although
we
say
up
to
100,
is
also
extremely
modest.
Again.
It's
an
event.
E
So
I
did
in
the
application
actually
state
that
they
would
follow
the
same
parameters
as
the
pumpkin
patch
and
what
we
really
have
in
mind
for
that
are
you
know,
intimate
family
gatherings.
What
we
were
hoping
to
do
were
things
like
baby
showers,
bridal
showers.
You
know
things
of
that
nature.
We
have
a
beautiful
outdoor
space
with
really
nice
wooden
tables.
E
You
know
just
small
Gatherings
to
make
a
little
bit
of
extra
income
around
the
course.
There.
B
More
questions:
oh
fine
I
wondered
what
your
intentions
are
with
the
outside
food
trucks
that
are
there
for.
E
The
so
we
we
actually
don't
I,
don't
think
I
mentioned
food
trucks
in
the
application,
I
believe
I
just
mentioned
other
vendors
and
the
vendors
that
we
have
in
mind
or
other
local
agricultural
producers,
so
example
of
people
that
we
like
to
collaborate
with
would
be
Bruce
Ranch.
E
You
know
they're
a
third
generation
cattle
ranch
in
the
oahis
and
they
sell
beef
or
blue
sky
Farms.
They
sell
flowers
and
honey.
E
E
We've
had
a
couple
of
requests
from
folks
like
there's
a
truck
that
makes
snow
cones,
but
the
goal
would
not
be
to
create.
You
know
a
food
truck
field,
those
bit.
You
know
what
they
have
over
in
Boise.
E
We
really
focus
on
the
backdrop
of
the
Foothills,
the
Alfalfa
field,
the
sprinkler
running
in
the
distance.
It's
meant
to
be
very
natural
in
agricultural
nature,
so
we're
thinking
much
more
just
like
tables
people,
selling
honey,
beeswax,
candles
things
of
that
nature.
B
Can
I
ask
another
question
sure
so
in
situations
that
we've
had
that
come
up
before
for
other
applicants,
we've
had
added
a
condition
that
no
no
food
trucks
or
no,
you
know
no
people
selling
food
or
drink
as
a
way
to
limit
the
the
food
at
the
events.
B
Yeah
from
our
perspective,
when
the
people
come
in
and
talk
about
the
events,
you
have
food
there.
That
creates
a
lot
more
people
that
want
to
come,
and
so
then
it
makes
the
event
bigger.
Not
what
you're
describing
this
nice
little
intimate
event,
and
so
the
limiting
of
food
has
limited
the
size
per
se,
because
people
don't
come
after
the
after
a
while
they're
they're,
hungry
and
they'll
go
home.
Okay,.
E
E
F
Did
you
have
any,
did
you
have
a
neighborhood
meeting
and
can
you
tell
me
about
that?
Has
anyone
showed
up
or
anything.
E
We
did
have
a
neighborhood
meaning
two
of
our
neighbors
attended,
kirken
Jan
Miller,
and
they
live
directly
across
from
us
and
Kathy
McCarthy.
E
We
just
walked
around
the
property
and
talked
through
the
events
that
we
hope
to
have
showed
where
the
events
would
be
taking
place.
Overall,
it
went
very
well.
We
had
no
complaints
registered,
so
in
truth,
I
was
surprised
to
see
a
complaint
or
a
written.
You
know
testimony
from
Kathy
being
that
she
attended
and
raised
no
concerns
in
that
in-person
meeting.
B
I'm
wondering
about
your
suggestive
solution
for
the
Ada
parking
I
I
know
of
Dell
businesses
that
have
that
kind
of
exception.
So
I'm
wondering
where
what
research
you
did
to
propose
your
exception
to
having
providing
Ada
parking.
E
Well,
it
was
just
common
sense,
more
than
research,
just
based
on
the
layout
and
nature
of
our
property.
As
I
said
someone
we
could
put
in
three
Ada
parking
spaces.
We
have
a
very
large
blacktop
area
directly
in
front
of
our
home.
If
push
comes
to
shove,
I
think
that
we
could
accommodate
that
I
just
I
hate
to
disappoint,
because
nothing
else
about
our
property
is,
you
know,
Ada
accessible
in
any
way,
so
they
would
be
able
to
park
and
enjoy
the
blacktop
but
directly
of
budding.
E
It
is
you
know
a
a
pretty
bumpy
bark
covered
patch,
followed
by
you,
know,
a
growing
area,
so
that
is
just
what
I,
what
I
had
in
mind,
which
led
me
to
propose
just
the
the
disclaimer
that
you
know
we
are
a
working
farm,
it's
a
natural
agrarian
environment
and
as
such
we
don't
have
the
infrastructure
that
would
be
potentially
expected
of
other
commercial
Enterprises.
A
H
Yes,
okay,
I'm,
a
little
nervous,
so
I
wanted
to
start
off
by
addressing
the
the
announcement
night
they
had.
I
did
receive
the
letter.
The
letter
in
no
way
indicated
the
number
of
events
or
the
scope
of
things
when
I
attended.
They
indicated
that
they
wanted
to
have
a
few
Farm
nights
and
a
few
Farm
dinners
for
people
and
that
pretty
much
the
farm
dinners
were
as
they
described
them.
Farm
nights
and
farm
dinners,
though
they
never
said,
20
each.
H
If
you
look
at
Farm
night's
20,
Farm,
dinners,
20
and
10
other
events
you're
talking
that's
without
the
pumpkin
patch,
if
50
events
over
the
summer,
that's
a
lot.
Would
you
want
to
live
next?
To
that?
So
then
they've
talked
about
I
saw
in
their
writing.
They
talked
about
having
possible
music
and
speakers.
They
said
small
speakers.
Small
speakers
in
no
way
tells
you
how
loud
it
will
be,
because
a
very
small
speaker
can
put
out
a
lot
of
noise.
H
I
don't
want
to
live
next
to
50
events,
that's
a
lot
and
for
the
10
events
that
people
could
come
in
you're
talking
people
who
have
no
interest
in
our
neighborhood,
they
come
in,
they
don't
live
there,
they
don't
breathe.
There
I
think
that
to
say
there
will
only
be
a
hundred
people
if
you
advertise
it,
and
they
spoke
of
doing
that.
H
That's
all
I
know
to
say
to
you:
it's
I
lived
there.
H
A
H
And
I
didn't
have
a
very
much
time
to
prepare
anything.
I
was
out
of
town
when
the
letter
first
came
and
then
things
happen,
but
I
and
I
don't
know
what
to
tell
you
about
that.
But
I
will
know
that
I
I
do
know
that
I
did
talk
to
one
person,
he
said
yeah.
Anybody
closes
a
car
door
on
Beacon
Light.
We
hear
it.
I
said
yes,
I
know,
that's
why
I
have
a
concern.
H
A
A
F
A
lot
of
the
interests
surrounds
this
Ada
in
this
the
fire
code
I
mean
the
question
I
have
is:
are
we
even
able
to
remove
that
stuff?
That's
legit
like
code
voted
on
by
law
that
I
don't
even
know.
If
we
were
even
able
to
say
things
like
take
this
out,
because
would
it
be
violating
the
actual
laws
voted
on
by
elected
officials.
C
Chairman
commissioner
Scott
that
was
provided
to
us
from
the
fire
department,
that
condition
was
provided
to
us
from
the
fire
department
directly.
So
it
is
their
requirement
to
install
that
it's
not
just
for
commercial
kitchens.
It's
also
residential
kitchens
used
for
commercial
purposes.
If
you
read
what
what
they
asked
for,
it
also
comes
from
the
building
code,
and
so
as
staff,
we
don't
recommend
removing
that.
As
for
Ada,
it
is
Ada
County
code
that
requires
ADA
parking
just
across
the
board.
C
I
I
You
know
the
Fire
and
Building
Code
often
have
those
so
I
mean
that
would
be
one
thing
you
could
do
to
give
them
flexibility
to
try
to
work
out
another
solution,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
to
Corey's
point
and
to
yours,
it's
a
code
outside
of
us
that
you
know
we
we're
just
kind
of
the
We
Gather
all
of
the
interests
and
and
agency
comments
and
and
formulate
an
entitlement
with
conditions
specific
to
those.
So
that's
that's
why
it's
in
there.
D
B
I
just
wondered
if
you
had
any
comments
or
suggestions
on
how
we
could
word
word
limiting
the
the
10
events
to
100
people.
We
would
just
add
that,
to
a
condition.
C
Chairman
commissioner
blitman,
you
could
edit
the
condition
that
is
listed
for
those
10
events.
Let
me
pull
that
up
real,
quick.
C
C
I
will
like
to
clarify
that
the
conditions
have
wording
based
on
whether
it's
a
hundred
guests
at
a
time
on
the
property
so
coming
and
going
or
a
hundred
guests
for
the
event.
So
you
might
want
to
clarify
that.
B
In
follow-up
question
similar
question
about
limiting
alcohol
like
who
governs
alcohol,
or
can
we
limit
alcohol
or
how
does
limiting
alcohol
work
on
these
agri-tourism
events
or.
C
Chairman
commissioner,
blitman
alcohol
is
allowed
through
catering
permits,
so
you
could
choose
to
limit
alcohol
depending
on
how
you
would
like
to
do
that.
That's
up
to
you
but
event.
Centers
are
allowed
to
receive
catering
permits
from
the
county
which
does
allow
for
alcohol.
Could.
B
You
limit
alcohol
limit,
not
allow
single
single
drink
sales.
I
Yeah
I
think
you
get
pretty
nuanced
in
specifying
catering
permits
that
way,
it
does
become
pretty
challenging
to
enforce
I.
I
You
know
you
could
limit
it
to
beer
and
wine
catering
permits
only
that's
a
different
type
of
catering
permit
through
the
clerk's
office,
so
I
mean
those
are
some
possible
limitations,
but
I
think
getting
down
to
the
individual
drink
limitation
would
be
pretty
cumbersome
for
us
to
try
to
enforce
upon
and
track
and
because
we
review
each
catering
print
that
comes
in
and
we
coordinate
with
the
clerk's
office
to
make
sure
that
it's
an
approved,
Event,
Center
or
some
other
location
that
can
have
a
catering
permit.
I
C
I
That
yeah
Commissioners,
it's
been
all
over
the
board
I
think
you've
had
some
that
don't
have
any
limitations
and
you've
had
some
that
have
incredible
limitations.
Some
even
in
the
Haven
Court
area,
where
we
went
so
far
as
to
I
think
gave
him
a
half
dozen
total
events
annually.
I
So,
as
with
any
conditional
use
permit
it's
at
your
discretion,
it's
a
case-by-case
consideration,
so
you
can
be
very
restrictive
if
you
prefer,
or
you
can
not
restrict
anything
and
just
let
it
be
an
event
center
or
you
can
kind
of
sounds
like
we're
in
kind
of
the
middle
of
those
two
options
with
what's
been
proposed
by
the
applicant
here
with
a
fixed
number
of
events
during
a
fixed
period
of
time.
C
Chairman
commissioner,
blindman
Farm
dinners
are
5
PM
to
9
pm
on
the
days
that
are
proposed,
which
is
Thursdays
and
Fridays.
Farm
nights
are
5
PM
to
9
pm.
What
and
those
are
proposed
on
Thursdays
or
Fridays.
Excuse
me:
Farm
dinners
are
also
proposed
to
be
able
to
be
held
on
Saturdays
and
then
the
pumpkin
patch
is
10
a.m
to
9
p.m,
and
then
the
other
private
events
are
proposed
as
10
a.m
to
9
p.m.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
A
F
C
Commissioner
Scott
all
of
the
alcohol
licensing
is
done
through
a
catering
permit,
so
they
could
serve
liquor
with
one
of
those
catering
permits.
They.
I
F
C
H
A
A
point
of
there
would
be
great
difficulties,
making
this
Ada,
accessible
and-
and
that
is
I
assume,
because
parking
area
currently
is
gravel
and
the
farm
is
dirt
and
wheelchairs.
Just
don't
work
well
in
dirt
and
gravel
and
so
exceptions
been
made
in
the
past
and
are
we
able
to
make
those
exceptions
to
say
no
do?
As
the
applicant
says
you
can
tell
people.
This
is
not
Ada
accessible.
C
I
We
have
worked
through
a
lot
of
alternative
design
options
and
to
the
applicant's
point
it's,
it
is
sort
of
a
unique
setup
as
to
where
events
may
occur,
so
I
I
think
providing
people
an
opportunity
to
get
to
the
site
and
have
a
place
for
them
to
unload
from
a
vehicle
is
one
thing
and
I
guess:
I
would
just
leave
it
up
to
the
folks
that
want
to
try
to
do
that
to
get
to
the
the
place
on
the
site
where
the
event
can
occur
through
assistance
by
you
know,
whatever
they're
in
or
their
family
members
or
people
that
are
with
them.
C
A
E
So
yeah
I
want
to
start
off
that
you
know
it
is
our
intent
to
work
with
Ada
County
in
all
capacities.
We
are
happy
to
facilitate
Ada
parking.
We
can.
We
do
have
a
paved
spot
where
that
can
go.
E
You
know
what
happens
when
folks
arrive,
you
know
we
can.
We
can
do
our
best.
So
again,
you
know
we
do
think
it's
important
to
note
that
we
have
been
having
these
pumpkin
patches.
These
are
the
highest
traffic
events
proposed
in
our
application
and
we
have
never
received
one
neighbor
complaint.
E
You
know
if
folks
have
not
taken
issues
with
these
events
over
the
course
of
three
years.
We
we
can.
We
can
absolutely
guarantee
that
the
events
proposed
in
our
application
are
not
going
to
cause
A
disruption.
E
I
do
really
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
pointing
to
red,
chair
lavender
and
its
Festival
I
mean
it
is.
It
is
just
that
it
is
a
festival
and
you
know
it's
been
highlighted
as
indicative
of
what
our
events
might
entail,
but
this
is
unfounded
and
just
completely
unrepresentative
of
our
property.
Our
parking
situation
once
again
folks
are
barking
on
our
Alfalfa
field
and
the
image
that
was
shared
there.
E
Just
you
know
it's
from
a
three
day,
long
event
that
serves
thousands
of
patrons
and
it
is
not
related
to
Good
Life
farms
in
in
any
way,
and
with
this
in
mind,
I
do
want
to
Broach
a
sensitive
topic,
I
apologize
for
doing
so,
but
if
you'll
turn
to
the
second
page
of
your
packets,
as
commissioner
Birch
noted
Kathy
is
the
only
individual
out
of
the
entire
list
of
people
who
were
contacted
in
our
alert
radius,
who
raised
a
concern
and
Kathy
is
the
same
individual
who
permitted
the
proposed
direction
of
that
hundred
foot
cell
phone
tower
with
four
carriers
in
her
yard.
E
E
E
This
project
was
denied
by
Ada
County
Commissioners,
but
intermax
Towers
filed
a
complaint
in
federal
court.
Ada
County
responded
with
a
dismissal,
but
the
case
has
yet
to
be
heard
right.
So
this
is
still
an
ongoing
situation.
E
The
Good
Life
Farms
testimony
and
our
plea
in
those
hearings
to
be
able
to
maintain
a
viable
Agricultural
and
aggregate
attainment
business
and
an
open
world
landscape.
It
factored
very
heavily
into
the
County's
decision
to
deny
that
project-
and
you
know,
Kathy-
does
have
strong
financial
incentives
for
all
surrounding
properties
to
undergo
no
changes
that
might
threaten
the
ability,
the
ability
of
that
cell
phone
tower
or
another
project
like
it
to
potentially
ensue.
E
So
I
just
want
to
note
that
we
do
have
some
concerns
that
this
letter
is
somewhat
biased
and
possibly
retaliatory
in
nature.
Now,
with
all
that
being
said,
you
know
we
we
love
where
we
live.
We
love
Eagle,
we
fought
very
hard
to
maintain
this
rural
landscape,
and
our
goal
with
our
farm,
as
I
had
mentioned
in
the
past,
is
to
continue
to
Foster
that
and
to
share
it
with
our
neighbors.
We
do
not
want
to
be
a
burden
on
the
people
who
surround
us.
Our
events
are
small,
they
are
quiet.
We
do.
E
E
We
are
also
very
happy
to
restrict
any
alcohol
to
beer
and
wine.
You
know
we
work
tirelessly
on
our
on
our
property
and
we
just
have
absolutely
no
risk
to.
We
have
no
desire
to
put
it
at
risk
via
Rowdy
drinkers.
E
E
It
is
where
we
make
the
bulk
of
our
profit,
and
so
you
know
we
are
applying
for
this,
so
that
we
can
have
some
vendors
there
to
help.
You
know
beef
up
that
event
and
you
know,
most
importantly,
to
Foster
other
local
Growers,
the
ability
to
participate.
E
You
know
in
in
this
communal
agrarian
event,
so
yeah,
that's
our
rebuttal
and
once
again,
I
really
do.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time.
D
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
pumpkin
patch
and
I've
been
to
Pumpkin.
There
were
festivals,
but
I
mean
the
traffic
was
backed
up
for
miles
but
and
I
know,
that's
probably
not
what
you're
aiming
for,
but
at
some
point,
as
as
popularity
grows,
how
can
you
control
and,
and
it's
going
to
be-
you
know
you're
100
people
sounds
fine
because
at
one
time
and
there's
gonna
be
traffic
flowing
in
and
out
that's
great
how?
D
E
That's
a
really
great
question,
so
you
know
I
do
want
to
say,
I
think
when
people
think
of
a
pumpkin
patch,
they
consider
Lowe's
family
Farmstead
right
that
that
is
out
in
Kuna
and
people
get
carded
to
it
and
there
are
hay
rides
and
they
have
a
lot
of
activities
going
on.
So
the
number
one
way
that
we
I
guess
control.
The
number
of
folks
is
that
people
have
to
walk
out
into
a
field
themselves
and
they
have
to
pick
and
carry
their
own
pumpkins.
E
It
is
not
a
large
commercial
event
with
lots
of
you
know:
activities
for
children,
it's
purely
you
are
picking
a
vegetable
which
happens
to
be
a
pumpkin.
That
I
believe
naturally
limits.
Our
events
to
I,
don't
know
folks,
who
are
just
a
little
more
laid
back
in
nature.
It
precludes
a
portion
of
the
market
from
being
interested
in
the
first
place.
The
second
is
that
our
parking
is
restricted,
so
we
will
not
be
able
to
have
a
certain
number
of
attendees.
E
You
know
beyond
a
given
point
on
our
property
and
there
is
no
parking
space
on
the
side
of
Lane
wood.
So
what
I
would
propose
there
to
just
ensure
that
folks,
just
don't
keep
pouring
in,
would
be
if
we
reach
a
certain
size
having
you
know,
parking
attendants
who
wave
people
into
our
our
field
and
if
they
don't
fit,
they'll
they'll
kindly
be
asked
to
leave.
E
Another
thought
that
we
had
in
mind
is
naturally
just
to
keep
count
with
a
little.
You
know
tab
of
how
many
people
who
are
coming
onto
our
property
at
any
given
time
and
again,
I
think
what's
I,
do
invite
folks
out
to
our
property.
You
know
come
on
out
and
and
see
it
for
yourself,
because
it's
it's
very
open
and
it's
very
easy
for
us
to
see.
E
What's
going
on,
I
mean
we
Orient
our
setup
so
that
we
have
to
greet
people
as
they
exit
the
job,
General
parking
area
and
walk
onto
our
farm.
So
you
know
it's
it's
just
not
a
free-for-all
in
any
way,
and
we
we
just
can't
afford
to
have
it
be
I
mean
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
still
continue
to
produce.
You
know
eggs
and
vegetables,
and
so
we're
very,
very
careful
about
you
know
not
having
heavy
traffic
flow.
Such
that
the
folks
might
triple
or
zucchini.
B
I
can
appreciate
the
comments
that
you're
making
about
the
size
and
fortunately,
when
we
approve
the
conditions,
those
conditions
apply
to
somebody
else
who
might
take
over
the
property.
So
we
we
need
to
put
some.
We
will
want
to
put
some
limits
in
and
so,
as
we
think
about
outside
vendors
I
understand
that
you
have
a
different
perspective
for
the
for
the
pumpkin
patch
as
compared
to
the
farm
nights,
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
many
outside
vendors
you're,
anticipating
for
the
pumpkin
patch
a.
E
Handful,
you
know
six,
five,
yes,
six
or
five
sounds
reasonable
and
I
know
I
would
hate
to
turn
like
another
small
farm
away.
So
I.
Might
you
know
ask
that
we
do
a
Max
of
10
or
something
like
that
just
to
be
safe?
It's
it's
a
little
difficult
to
answer
on
the
spot
because
I
haven't
thought
it
through.
But
you
know
I
would
be
happy
as
a
condition
to
potentially
send
a
list
of
proposed
vendors.
If
that
would
make
the
decision
easier
and
more
grounded.
E
E
B
Day,
thank
you
very
much.
I
think
that's
our
perspective
is
trying
to
put
conditions
on
so
it
works
for
you
and
it
works
for
the
neighbors
and
it
works
for
other
people.
E
Yeah
and
I
I
think
that
sounds
great
I
mean
we
have
flexibility.
You
know
our
overarching
goal
is
obviously
to
be
able
to
host
these
events.
So
you
know
a
condition
along
those
lines.
I
think
would
be
just
fine.
F
E
Oh
no
I
look
her.
We
don't
want
to
touch
that
and.
F
E
Yeah
so
I
described
in
my
application,
vendors.
B
E
Know
yeah
had
said
before
we
weren't
really
gunning
for
food
trucks,
but
you
know
we
have
10
acres
of
open
space,
so
I
would
say
if
there's
a
limit
on
the
number
of
vendors
who
are
able
to
attend
at
any
one
event.
You
know
maybe
call
it
10
I
doubt
that
we'll
ever
hit
that.
But
you
know
I'm
happy
to
put
a
cap
on
the
vendors
we
we're
not
really
gunning
for
anything,
in
particular
other
than
you
know,
of
course,
being
able
to
incorporate
other
local
growing
operations
into
our
events.
E
Okay
and
yeah
no
liquor.
J
B
E
We
also
believe
that
that
presents
the
best
situation
for
traffic
flow,
so
as
opposed
to
pulling
into
our
driveway
turning
around
having
a
clog
up.
They
can
enter
the
field
park
where
they
will
drive
further
up
the
Strip
exit
and
come
back
down.
Lane
wood.
D
Chairman,
so
just
just
to
clarify
so
you're
the
situation
where
you
have
a
friend
that
would
come
in,
he
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
have
a
food
truck.
He
would
be
able
to
use
your
your
kitchen
there
at
your
home
to
to
make
his.
E
Oh
so
the
way
he
worked,
so
no,
we
wouldn't
the
way
that
he
works.
You
know
when
he
goes
to
a
farmer's
market.
He
sets
up
a
food
stand,
so
you
know
he
has
like
two
tables
and
hot
plates.
You
know
again,
the
onus
we
would
expect
would
be
on
any
any
individual
like
that.
You
know
they're
covering
their
own
catering
permits.
They're,
you
know
taking
proper
precautions,
were
you
know,
just
the
venue
yeah.
D
I
think
I
think
if
I
can
speak
for
other,
my
other
Commissioners
that
sometimes
with
food
trucks,
the
concern
is:
there's
generators,
there's
just
additional
noise,
there's
this
site
of
seeing
trucks
parked
out
in
an
area.
So
there's
things
like
that.
That's
a
concern
for
the
commission,
so
somebody's
got
a
little
table
over
the
hot
plate
and
they're
doing
things
right
there.
That's
not
not
a
food
truck
right!
A
That
we
are
now
ready
to
close
the
public
testimony
portion
of
this
meeting
with
respect
to
this
particular
project,
we'll
open
the
floor
up
to
the
Commissioners
like
to
have
a
motion
one
way
or
the
other,
therefore,
or
against
this
project
or,
alternatively,
a
motion
to
table
a
project.
So
with
that,
looking
for
a
motion.
F
G
F
What
I
mean
yeah
and
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
attached,
as
exhibit
a.
A
F
B
F
B
A
F
I,
so
a
couple
things
again,
I
feel
like
this.
This
fits
I
know
that
one,
this
isn't
a
winery.
We
know
we
have
that
situation
come
up.
Second
of
all,
I,
like
the
middle
ground
approach.
F
We
have
seen
these
come
across,
where
it's
unlimited
and
they're
putting
self
limitations
on
which
is
really,
which
is
really
nice,
to
see
that
they're
being
realistic
and
not
forcing
the
commission
to
limit
them
as
much
as
we
are
are
going
to
already
some
something
I
think
the
the
Ada
parking
is
fine,
that's
something
that
we
should
keep
in
there.
First
of
all,
it's
just
the
law,
I,
don't
think
we
can
override
that
second
of
all,
Ada
isn't
just
wheelchair
bound.
F
There
are
children,
for
instance,
that
are
wheelchair
bound,
but
then
their
parents
can
carry
them
things
like
that,
my
wife
or
my
ex-wife
when
she
was
pregnant
with
our
children,
she
received
a
Ada
parking
temporarily
because
of
a
condition.
So
it's
not
just
wheelchairs,
so
I
think
that's
fine
same
thing
with
the
the
fire
Hood
they've
expressed
that
they
have
two
years
again.
This
is
code
we
are
here
to
operate
with
inside
inside
the
codes,
so
I
think
that
that
is
not
a
gonna,
be
too
much
of
a
burden.
F
Things
like
that,
if
and
they've
already
said,
that's
likely
not
going
to
be
an
issue
and
we're
limiting
that.
So
I
think
we're
finding
a
really
good
middle
ground
where
we
can
accommodate
what
the
property
owner
wants,
with
also
putting
some
of
those
conditions
on
that
ensure
that
it's
maintained,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
have
this
have
happen,
is
US
deny
this
and
then
they
turn
around
and
say
well.
A
F
H
B
F
20
for
the
with.
F
F
B
So
a
maximum
of
10
outside
vendors
are
allowed.
F
B
And
I've
seconded
the
motion
and
I
agree
with
providing
some
of
these
activities
and
I
appreciate
the
intention
to
keep
it
small
I'm
I'd
like
to
at
the
commission,
to
consider
even
limiting
the
the
vendors
a
little
bit
more
to
maybe
to
drink
or
food
vendors
per
per
event.
Instead
of
because
I
can
imagine.
B
If
you
had
10
food
and
drink
vendors
there,
that
would
be
a
lot
of
stuff
like
on
the
pumpkin
patch,
so
I
I
think
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
we
consider
limiting
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
I
I.
Think
the
concept
of
the
Agricultural
event
is
is
good
and
I
love
having
wholesome
entertainment
in
places
for
people
to
go
and
and
I
think
that
we
can't
exclude
the
Ada
or
the
Fire
Marshals
request.
So
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
all
of
those.
So.
D
D
D
Oh
okay,
yeah
I,
just
I
I,
missed
to
keep
things
agriculture
but
I
understand
it
as
you.
D
The
point
is
made
that
that
you
can't
do
these
things
without
these
extra
activities
anymore,
and
it
turns
into
a
subdivision
if
you
can't
survive,
but
I'm
still
concerned
with
the
number
of
of
events
that
are
going
on
there
and
and
I'd
I'd
like
to
propose
it
just
on
the
farm
dinners
to
limit
that
from
20
to
15
on
the
farm
nights,
also
from
20
to
15
caping,
keeping
the
same
maximum
number
of
people
and
on
the
private
events,
to
limit
that
to
three
and
a
small
point,
B
on
the
on
the
pumpkin
patch
limit
the
time
on
that
from
10
a.m,
to
6
p.m.
D
I,
don't
think
anybody
needs
to
get
a
pumpkin
at
eight
or
nine
o'clock
at
night,
so
limit
the
time
that
that's
available
I
agree
with
Mr
blittman
that
we
should
limit
the
number
of
vendors.
Actually,
this
we
should
state
that
no
food
trucks
limit
the
vendors
to
a
maximum
of
six
at
each
event.
I
Chairman
the
process
here
would
be
there's
a
couple
ways
forward.
Commissioner
Scott
could
agree
to
amend
the
motion
along
the
lines
of
what
Mr
Wickstrom
has
or
commissioner
Wickstrom
has
asked.
Commissioner
blitman
could
second
that
so
then
we
would
have
that
motion.
If
commissioner
Scott
opts
to
not
do
that,
I
believe,
commissioner
Wickstrom
could
introduce
the
substitute
motion
and
we
could
look
for
a
second
to
that
as
an
alternative
forward.
So
you
kind
of
have
those
two
two
paths
forward
from
a
voting
perspective
just
to.
A
By
the
same
token,
this
is
an
event.
Center
is
what's
being
proposed,
and
so
the
Ada
County
code
specifically
requires
that
a
finding
that
there
is
no
ad
for
undue
adverse
impact
on
surrounding
property,
a
person
with
section
85b5,
and
that
is
a
subjective
judgment,
and
so
the
applicant
has
already
addressed
the
Amplified
music
and
said
well,
okay
and
in
the
paper
that
has
been
submitted,
which
will
be
entered
as
an
exhibit
in
the
record
that
the
amplification
would
be
away
from
their
property.
A
Nonetheless,
as
Ms
McCarthy
has
stated,
this
will
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
The
it
is,
there's
been
a
proliferation
of
event,
centers
take
it
early
associated
with
wineries.
Today,
pumpkins
are
grown
there.
We
don't
know
whether
or
not
a
Vineyard
could
be
there
five
years
from
now
and
we've
already,
then,
if
we
go
down
this
road
approved.
G
A
Strict
limitations
on
what
is
done
here,
strict
limitations
on
the
number
of
events,
we're
proposing
parking
for
132
cars,
and
so,
if
it
was
pumpkins,
only
I
wouldn't
have
as
much
of
a
concern.
But
as
soon
as
we
start
talking
about
event
centers.
Where
there's
going
to
be
events
in
the
evening
where
alcoholic
beverages
can
be
served
and
where
there
will
be
an
additional
vendors,
I
I
am
concerned
and
I
am
concerned,
for
the
very
reasons
that
Ms
McCarthy
has
stated
whether
or
not
Ms
McCarthy
has
conflicts
or
not.
A
Any
Resident
could
have
made
the
same
arguments
that
Ms
McCarthy
made
in
the
letter
in
which
she
objects,
and
there
have
been
many
objections
to
these
events.
Centers
on
exactly
those
same
lines,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
no
matter
what
we
decide
here
tonight,
either
party
that
would
be
unhappy
can
appeal
it
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners.
A
D
F
F
D
Mr
chairman,
if
we
clear
my
throat
I
moved
that
commission
approved
project
to.
D
D
The
listed
time
from
10
a.m
to
9
pm.
For
that.
I
B
B
Motion,
okay,
so
it's
seconded
so
I
agree
that
there
can
be
some
additional
restrictions.
What
what
I
don't
know
is
if,
if
we're
the
right
people
to
be
making
those
like
the
numbers-
and
so
another
idea
we
could
do
is
we
could
ask
the
the
applicant
to
work
with
the
with
the
staff
and
come
up
with
their
with
their
own
restrictions,
based
upon
what
they've
here
heard
here
and
maybe
they'll
come
up
with
something
that
makes
like
sense
to
them.
A
D
B
It's
it's
my
understanding
that
we
make
the
decision
and
then
it
only
goes
to
the
Commissioners.
If
one
party
appeals
okay,
so
we're
the
deciding
person
on
these
conditional
use
permits.
I
D
But
Mr
chairman,
that
it
puts
it
on
the
applicant
to
kind
of
guess
what
are
the
different
various
Commissioners
going
to
be
comfortable
with,
so
it
becomes
a
guessing
game
for
them
and
then
and
if
they
could
probably
say
well
we're
we
want
20.
D
D
So
it's
it's
too
much
of
a
guessing
game.
It
puts
it,
they
have
to
guess
what
we're
thinking
the
word
you
know,
like
I,
said
we're
through
three
members
down,
so
we
don't
know
what
their
input
is
going
to
be.
So
maybe
it
would
be
beneficial
to
the
applicant
to
hold
off
until
we
have
those
other
three
and
they
may
be
a
different
outcome
on
it.
F
So
I'm
gonna
I'll
say
something
then
I'll
make
another
motion,
but
I
I,
just
I
I'm
on
the
other
end
of
this
I
feel
like
I
I
get.
We
need
to
put
some
of
these,
but
I
feel
like
we
found
a
middle
ground
and
then
suddenly
we
went
yanked
way
over
to
the
extreme
unlimiting.
What
these
guys
can
do
with
their
their
property
here
I
know
we
have
the
interest
of.
F
We
need
to
have
the
interest
of
surrounding
area,
but
only
one
person
has
come
so
we're
going
them
versus
Miss
McCarthy
and
it's
understandable,
we'll
take
her
testimony
and
and
consider
it
and
that's
why
I
think
we
should
put
limits
that
we
have
been,
but
now
suddenly
we're
limit
we're,
saying
no
food
trucks,
we're
sending
limiting
cutting
the
events
in
half
when
they've
already
self-limited
the
amount
of
events
I
I
can't
get
on
board
with
that
recommendation
at
all,
that's
I
think
we've
gone
way
too
far
on
limiting
what
can
be
what
these
folks
can
do
on
their
property,
just
based
on
the
fact
that
we've
we
that
they're
doing
something
that
is
being
done
by
others
in
the
eagle,
Foothills
and
they've
been
doing
The
Farmstead
parking
people
having
them
come
pick
pumpkins
already
and
so
I,
just
I
I
think
that
we're
starting
to
go
down
a
path
of
limits
and
then
limits
again
so
I
mean
I.
F
I
D
I
Believe
with
this
last
substitute
motion,
that
is
the
motion,
so
the
previous
two
are
they're
null
and
void,
because
we
received
a
substitute
motion
and
a
and
a
second.
So
that
is
the
new
motion,
and
so
now
you
can
either
someone
can
introduce
another
substitute
motion
or
you
can
vote
on
the
motion
on
the
floor,
which
is
to
table
to
August
10th.
B
One
of
the
the
wineries
that
we
approved
we
approved
with
I
want
to
say,
was
100
parking
spots,
but
on
100
people
and
they
came
back
and
they
said
well.
Obviously,
you
you
knew
we
were
going
to
have
more
than
100
people,
because
you
approved
100
parking
spots
and
so
the
fact
that
we're
approving
more
parking
spots
than
than
people
allowed
at
that.
In
that
situation,
it
was
inferred
that
we
understood
that
it
was
going
to
be
bigger.
B
So
so
there
is
some
precedence
for
some
of
the
comments
that
have
happened
from
the
committee,
based
on
what
we've
seen
in
other
other
applications.
I
support
having
these
kinds
of
activities,
I'm
a
farm
girl
at
heart
and
I,
grow
my
vegetables
and
it
sounds
like
a
wonderful
event.
Venue
I
would
like
to
minimize
the
impact
on
the
neighbors
and
I
appreciate
the
need
appreciate
reducing
some
of
the
the
numbers
and
some
of
the
nights
to
do
that.
So
I
could
support.
B
Looked
it
up
on
online,
but
whatever
Sunset
is
in
September
and
sunset
is
in
October,
there's
a
variance
between
the
first
of
September
and
the
end
of
October
and
I'd
like
to
see
people
safely
out
of
there
before
the
sun
sets
from
a
from
a
safety
standpoint,
because
we
don't
have
any
lighting,
and
so
we'd
want
to
make
sure
that
those
hours
are
trimmed
down
within
the
lighting
safe
lighting
to
get
people
into
their
cars
and
home.
So
those
are
the
things
that
I
would
consider
in
in
in
August.
A
They
have
to
get
the
governmental
body
to
approve
doing
something
that
they
cannot
do
without
us
changing
the
current
requirements,
and
so
so,
if
we
said
you
can't
do
anything
by
way
of
an
event
center,
they
have
what
they
already
have,
and
that
is
what
they
bargained
for
when
they
got
the
property
with
respect
to
the
number
of
people
that
may
be
opposed
to
it,
I
don't
know
if
there's
more
people
than
Ms
McCarthy
or
not,
but
if
there
is
only
one
person
that
is
severely
adversely
affected
by
it.
That's
enough.
A
The
one
would
be
enough,
because
the
requirement
is
that
it
cannot
pose
an
undue
adverse
effect
upon
neighboring
property
and
to
say
well,
we
have
outweighed
the
loss
to
somebody
else
whose
property
values
may
be
devalued
destroyed.
The
quality
of
their
life
reduced
because
the
community
might
be
better
off.
A
That's
not
something
that
I
would
be
in
favor
of
doing
I,
look
at
the
individual
and
consider
the
harm
to
the
individual,
and
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
numbers
are.
If,
if
I
were
voting
on,
a
motion,
I
would
vote
on
the
one
if
I
were
approving
anything.
It's
been
said.
Other
than
tabling
I
would
vote
in
favor
of
what
commissioner
Wickstrom
has
proposed.
A
G
Thank
you,
chairman
Birch
application.
Before
you.
G
2023-00532-Zc
Dash
D
a
dash
v
d
c:
u
Dash,
MSP
Dash
PBA,
it's
a
big
one.
This
is
applicant
is
KM
engineering.
G
This
is
a
vicinity
map
and
it
shows
you.
The
property
here
is
highlighted
in
red,
we're
kind
of
southwest
of
gown
field
and
the
Boise
Airport
off
of
Banner
Street
there.
This
is
that
long
acronym.
This
is
a
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
from
the
R1,
the
state
residential
district
to
the
airport,
industrial
M3
district,
with
a
development
agreement,
a
variance,
a
conditional
use,
a
Master
site
plan
and
a
property
boundary
adjustment.
All
for
a
contractor's
yard.
Property
address
is
4255,
South,
Banner,
Street
and
the
red
box.
G
Here,
the
the
smaller
red
rectangle
is
where
the
contractor's
yard
is
going
to
be
that
contains
0.68
Acres.
Currently
so
Fox
Heating
and
Cooling
seeks
to
operate
that
contractor's
yard.
On
that
portion
of
the
property
they
plan
to
convert
the
existing
dwelling.
Here,
it's
approximately
690
square
feet
into
office
space
for
two
employees.
There
will
be
HVAC
materials
that
are
going
to
be
stored
on
the
property
among
the
other
accessory
structures
here
on
the
Northern
property
boundary
line.
G
No
new
structures
are
proposed
as
part
of
this
application.
The
applicant
intends
to
operate
the
business
Monday
through
Friday
eight
to
five,
and
it
would
just
be
for
the
the
employees
there
no
public
coming
to
and
from
the
property
we
do
have.
It
was
a
requirement
that
they
did
natural
features
analysis.
We
did
not
find
that
there
was
a
going
to
be
a
severe
detriment
to
the
natural
features
on
the
site.
There's
a
parking
plan
that
was
submitted.
G
It
does
meet
the
requirements,
the
Ada
County
code,
they're
they're,
providing
three
parking
spaces
here,
one
of
which
will
have
to
be
a
paved
Ada
parking
space.
You
got
a
landscaping
and
lighting
plan
that
a
requirement
of
of
these
types
of
applications.
They
are
deferring
that
submittal,
so
that'll
be
a
condition
of
approval,
there's
also
a
variance
included
as
I
mentioned,
and
it's
specifically
for
the
the
existing
structures
on
the
Northern
property
line.
These
are
going
to
encroach
slightly
into
the
the
side
yard
setback
as
a
part
of
this.
G
G
I
will
note,
though,
that
there
is
a
letter
in
support
from
the
neighbor
to
the
north
that
lives
there
of
that,
that
variance
they're
in
support
of
that
as
I
continue
here.
This
is
another
map
showing
the
Boise
Airport
influence
area.
The
property
is
more
specifically
here
in
outline
in
reddit's
within
area
C.
That's
that
purple
area
and
so
in
any
principally
permitted
uses
within
area
C
require
a
conditional
use
application
to
be
submitted
alongside
the
master
site
plan.
So
that's
why
we
have
conditional
use
and
the
master
site
plan
before
you.
G
And
in
conjunction
with
all
that,
we
have
a
rezone
or
a
zoning
ordinance
map
Amendment
with
a
development
agreement
and
that's
to
change
the
property
here
from
the
R1
or
the
state
residential
zoning
to
the
airport.
Industrial
M3
districts
excuse
our
weird
I.
Don't
know
why
this
property
is
not
colored,
but
that
area
here
in
purple.
The
M3
is
that
Airport
Industrial,
it's
the
same
down
here,
so
this
property
would
also
be
M3.
G
The
last
portion
was
that
property
boundary
adjustment,
and
so,
if
you
recall
the
original
rectangle
piece
that
we
see
today
is
0.68
Acres,
it's
actually
going
to
grow
to
the
West
a
little
bit
and
it
would
go
to
0.85
Acres
So.
Currently,
this
parcel
to
the
north
is
3.12
Acres.
It
would
decrease
to
2.91
acres.
G
G
After
all
that
we
we
transmitted
to
agencies
did
the
radius
notice.
We
did
not
receive
any
comments
from
any
Neighbors
at
all,
except
for
that
gentleman
or
those
folks
to
the
north
that
were
fine
with
the
variants
we
did
not
receive
any
outline.
You
know
outlier
type
comments
from
any
agencies,
just
the
standard
agency
comments
from
you
know
the
building
official
achd
fire
department.
So
with
all
that
staff
is
recommending
approval
and
you,
as
the
planning
zoning
commission,
are
recommending
this
to
the
board
of
County
Commissioners
and
before
I
finish
here.
G
A
I
A
J
J
I'll
keep
my
presentation
pretty
pithy,
we're
requesting
a
rezone
for
the
entirety
of
the
property,
so
that
includes
the
section
that
we're
going
to
be
adjusting
with
the
property
boundary
adjustment,
so
the
0.85
Acres
from
the
R1
District
to
the
M3
District
to
coordinate
with
the
use
of
the
fox
Heating
and
Cooling
company,
so
they'd
like
to
operate
a
contractor's
yard
on
the
property,
so
I'll
have
Connor
do
a
couple
of
Vanna
moves.
Would
you
mind
going
to
the
next
slide?
J
This
is
a
just
a
graphic
to
show
you
what
the
current
zoning
is
in
the
area.
You
already
saw
a
map
like
this
we're
consistent
with
the
M3
District
to
the
South
and
the
adjacent
zoning
as
Connor
mentioned.
This
is
in
Boise's
area
of
City
Impact
and
they
have
determined
that
it
should
be
industrial
when
it
develops
redevelops
in
the
future.
So
we
would
be
consistent
with
that
comprehensive
plan
and
existing
uses
next
slide.
Please
you
can
keep
going
so
this
is
the
property
boundary
adjustment
that
we
talked
about.
J
I
have
a
couple
of
animations
you'll,
just
click.
This
is
our.
The
current
property
is
outlined
in
yellow
it's
about
0.67,
acres
and
or
and
then
the
addition
is
about
7
000
square
feet,
so
that
would
bring
us
up
to
the
0.85
Acres
overall
for
the
property
boundary
which
they
will
use
for
the
for
their
operation.
J
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
just
a
depiction
that
you've
already
saw
the
existing
home
for
his
neighbor
Mr
Daniel
price
is
to
the
north.
Existing
buildings
are
on
the
site.
Again
we
intend
to
use
for
storage,
so
they're,
enclosed
buildings,
they're
used
for
different
materials,
they
use
for
different
jobs
and
the
office
will
be
located
within
the
existing
residence.
It's
about
six,
a
little
over
600
square
feet.
J
So
next
slide
and
I
have
a
site
plan.
I
can
show
you,
so
there
will
be
Paving
about
a
20-foot
apron
going
into
the
site
from
Banner
Street.
There
will
be
two
regular
parking
spaces
and
one
Ada
parking
space.
Fox,
Heating
and
Cooling
has
two
employees
that
will
be
on
site
the
rest
of
their
employees.
I
think
they're
they're
about
eight
employees
all
together
actually
take
their
truck
their
trucks,
home
and
then
they'll
go
from
their
home
to
whatever
job
they
have
the
next
day.
J
So
I
think
Mr
Fox
said
that
they
have
eight
vehicle
or
six
vehicles
for
service
trucks.
Sorry
and
those
those
will
all
be
with
employees
for
the
most
part,
never
really
at
the
site
unless
they're
loading
up
with
materials
that
they
have
stored
on
site,
the
remainder
of
the
site
that
we
would
be
adjusting
with
the
property
boundary
adjustment,
there's
a
little
line
there.
That's
a
fence
line,
that's
roughly
where
the
the
extra
property
would
be
gained.
J
J
Let's
see
I
think
we
would
we're
in
agreement
with
a
staff
report
and
all
the
conditions
of
approval
that
are
associated
all
the
agency
comments
were
in
agreement
with
I,
don't
have
anything
else
to
add,
like
our
client
and
the
property
owners
here
this
evening,
if
you
have
any
questions
for
him,
he'd
probably
come
up
and
add
or
answer
those
otherwise
I'll
stand
for
questions.
A
Right.
Thank
you
very
much
anything
to
add
Mr
Lindstrom
I.
A
H
F
B
A
B
It's
great
to
have
all
the
other
uses
around
there
that
are
clearly
contractors
yards
and
so
we're
sourcing
commercials
operations
in
places
where
their
intention
is
for
commercial
operations.
So
that
feels
good.
F
Mr
Scott
I
just
have
one
comment.
The
this
is
completely
uncontroversial,
obviously,
but
having
the
additional
comment
from
the
neighbor,
that's
approved
that
weighs
on
the
commission,
I
believe
having
stuff
like
that.
So
just
I
just
want
to
point
out
I
know:
there's
not
many
people
here
that
that
type
of
stuff
does
help
out.
So
having
that
additional
comment
is,
is
nice
to
have
so
yeah.
A
A
A
F
I
Was
a
pretty
brief
agenda?
Last
night
first
item
was
approving
some
revised
findings
for
variance
conditional
use
in
a
master
site
plan
for
a
self-service
storage
facility
out
off
of
Stewart.
Road
board
unanimously
approved
that
my
subdivision
out
there
on
McDermott
and
victory
was
tabled
yet
again,
as
they
continue
to
work
through
septic
related
issues
with
Central,
Health
and
DEQ.
That
was
the
zero
view
subdivision,
which
is
part
of
the
old
Alta
View
subdivision,
so
yeah
that
that
one,
hopefully
we
get
through
there
soon.
I
I
Now
the
board
unanimously
approved
that
there
was
a
variance
to
approve
a
500
square
foot
accessory
structure,
encroachment
into
a
setback
that
was
approved
as
well
and
then
finally,
a
variance
for
an
addition
to
a
residential
dwelling
staff
initially
recommended
denial,
but
the
board
decided
to
go
the
other
direction
so
that
was
approved
and
tabled
for
revised
findings,
and
that
was
the
agenda.
So.
I
F
I
Them
I
mean
it's
really
more,
the
latter
it's
their
sewer,
so
they
get
to
say
when
they
give
it
to
people.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
them.
We've
pointed
out
the
fact
that
it
certainly
complicates
our
ability
to
develop
that
area.
You
know
it
creates
kind
of
a
patchwork
environment
of
who's
got
sewer.
Who
doesn't
how
intense
you
know
sewer
is
the
difference
in
terms
of
a
commercial
versus
a
non-commercial
development
or
even
a
more
intense
residential
development.
I
So
yeah,
it
really
does
hamstring
us,
but
you
know
what
to
the
same
point,
I
think
as
a
former
Boise
employee,
I
kind
of
understand
what
they
were
doing
too.
They
were
for
years
extending
infrastructure
into
an
area
that
they
didn't
have
a
lot
of
Hope
of
annexing
anytime
soon,
so
they
kind
of
had
to
think
about
that
as
well.
So
it
all
was
born
out
of
those
considerations,
but
yeah
now
that
I'm
on
the
Ada
County
side,
it
certainly
does
complicate
our
ability
to
build
out
the
Southwest.
So
all
right.
I
C
I
We
will
yeah,
so
staff
will
just
do
a
re,
probably
a
recap
of
the
the
entire
application
and
then
highlight
any
changes
that
are
proposed
by
the
applicant
between
now
and
then
so.
Do.
I
I
have
the
sign-in
sheet
over
there,
I'll
get
it
all
right
and
I've
got
one
signature
page
for
you
there,
commissioner
Birch,
so.