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A
Is
to
those
of
you
who
were
not
here
last
time
welcome
and
to
those
of
you
who
are
returning
welcome!
Welcome
back!
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
afternoon.
My
name
is
Alexandra.
Sibo
I
am
very
pleased
to
be
a
good
staff
Council
for
this
project.
It's
been
my
true
pleasure
to
be
working
on
this
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
two
roles.
If
you
hear
your
name,
please
unmute,
so
we
can
make
sure
your
mic
is
working,
so
I
can
get
you
down
as
having
attended.
A
A
A
Okay,
great
I'm,
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
roll
call,
then,
which
is
acus
members
who
are
not
on
this
particular
committee.
Alternates
of
members
on
the
committee-
and
we
start
here
with
our
wonderful
project-
consultant
Elisa,
Dishman
I'm
here.
Thank
you
so
much
and
next
up,
Melissa
bauder
alternate
for
the
Department
of
Homeland,
Security,
okay
and
next
up
Bill
Funk.
Yes,.
A
E
Well,
great
hi
everybody!
It's
nice
to
see
you
slash,
see
you
again
depending
on
what
status
we
are
in
here
together.
My
name
is
Eloise
pasikov
I'm,
the
new
chair
of
this
committee,
I'm
on
the
faculty
at
Georgetown
law.
This
is
my
second
term
as
a
public
member
I've
been
a
member
of
the
committee
on
the
administration
and
management
for
my
previous
years
here
and
I'm
excited
to
be
moving
over
here
as
chair.
E
So
I
have
a
script
that
I'd
like
to
read
to
you
just
about
the
way
that
we
will
proceed
through
our
meeting
today.
Please
note
that
only
acus
members,
including
government
members,
public
members,
senior
fellows
liaison
representatives
and
special
counsels,
whether
or
not
on
the
committee
and
their
designated
alternates,
have
full
speaking
privileges.
To
avoid
background
noise,
I'd
like
to
ask
that
everybody
keeps
microphones
on
mute
and
either
use
zoom's
hand
reads
feature
hand
raise
feature
which
is
my
preference
or
add
a
comment
in
the
chat
feature.
E
If
you'd
like
to
speak
and
for
some
reason
you
can't
use
the
chat.
I'll
then
call
on
you
and
you
can't
use
the
hand,
raise
feature
rather
I'll
then
call
on
you
and
you
can
unmute
yourselves
and
then
please
remute
yourself
when
you're
done.
I'd
also
ask
that
acus
members
and
their
designated
alternates
use
the
webcam
to
facilitate
our
conversation
with
respect
to
attendees
other
than
acus
members
and
alternates
participation
requires
the
unanimous
consent
of
the
committee
members
and
time
permitting
I'll.
E
E
Only
members
of
the
regulation
committee,
including
government
members
and
their
designated
alternates
public
members,
senior
fellows
liaison
representatives
and
special
counsels,
have
a
vote.
Please
don't
vote
unless
you're
a
member
of
the
committee
and
we
have
a
list
of
committee
members
in
case
you
are
unsure.
So
that
concludes
my
reading
of
the
script.
Alexandra
I
think
I
have
hit
all
of
the
high
points,
okay
and
so
I
think
we're
ready
to
begin
so
if
I
begin,
I
really
mean
resume.
E
In
our
last
meeting,
we
were
able
to
work
our
way
through
all
of
the
recommendations
and
then
delegated
over
to
the
committee
on
style
to
tweak
some
of
the
language
in
a
non-substantive
way.
We
reached
agreement
on
the
substance,
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
now
is
go
through
briefly
the
recommendations
making
sure
that
everybody
feels
that
we
hit
the
committee
on
style.
E
You
know
correctly
rather
that
the
committee
on
sale
hit
the
goals
correctly
and
to
see
if
anybody
has
any
sort
of
input
you
know
at
this
stage
and
then
we'll
turn
to
the
preamble.
So
that
is
my
goal
here.
So,
let's
start
with,
if
anybody
has
any
comments
on
recommendation,
one
as
taken
up
by
the
committee
on
Style,
starting
on
line
50.
E
C
Sorry,
it's
not
a
style
issue,
I
I!
Think
it's
more
substantive,
and
that
is
the
what's
in
follows.
Well,
it
says
that
is
those
procedures
in
which
a
civil
penalty
or
other
coercive
remedy
is
sought
against
a
person
for
violating
the
law.
So,
okay,
that's
that's
it!
It's
proceedings
that
start
that
way,
not
that
they
end
with
either
a
penalty
or
coercive
remedy.
C
E
C
Yeah
that,
if
that,
if
that's
yeah
see
when
I
was
reading
it
at
first
I
was
thinking
it's
proceedings
which
ends
in
a
civil
penalty
or
coercive
remedy
through
a
settlement.
But
that's
not
what
it
says
it
said:
I
guess
it's
what
how
it
starts
and
as
long
as
it
is
when
it
starts
I
think
that's
fine,
I'm!
Sorry,
no.
E
E
C
That
wasn't
that
wasn't
my
concern.
It
was
my
concern
that
if,
if
we
were
posting,
the
results
of
settlement
agreements
and
the
settlement
agreements
had
to
reach
a
civil
penalty
or
other
course
of
remedy,
then
that
this
would
be
under
inclusive
of
what
should
be
published,
but
if
it's
only
the
ones
the
proceedings,
this
is
how
they
start
not
how
they
end,
then
that
then
that
would
be
fine,
Okay,
so
yeah
and
I
guess
it's
it's.
The
settlement
agreements
reached
in
proceedings.
E
E
E
E
G
G
E
E
No
thank
you
for
that.
Okay,
so
the
proposal
is
to
change
in
line
actually
I.
Think
Alexander's
The
Proposal
was
rather
in
line
59.60
to
keep
the
singular
below
yeah
I,
don't
know.
Certainly,
consistency
is
an
aqueous
value.
I
can't
remember
if
we
have
a
general
default
of
style
towards
singular
or
plural,
so.
E
H
E
E
G
E
E
And
maybe
that
since
we
cover
a
page,
let's
keep
here
on
the
sort
of
Preamble
for
recommendation
three
well
yeah,
so
we're
gonna
just
stick
with
lines
79
through
84,
just
that
we
can
see
together.
So
does
anybody
have
any
further
comments
on
how
the
committee
of
style
has
addressed
these
changes
bill.
C
C
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
So
unless
anybody
has
any
objection
to
that
which
I
hear
none,
so,
let's,
let's
go
and
start
with
the
first
paragraph.
So
I'll
give
everybody
a
few
minutes
and
again
just
to
refresh
everybody's
recollection
for
those
of
you
who
were
not
here
last
time
we
did
not
address
the
Preamble
at
all,
so
we
are
now
going
to
do
this
in
a
in
a
I
hope,
still
somewhat
expeditious,
but
not
as
speed
speed,
running
expeditious
procedure.
So,
let's
take
a
minute
to
read
lines
one
through
five.
E
Okay,
I
am
opening
the
floor
for
any
comments
on
the
Preamble
language
in
the
first
paragraph,
and
people
should
make
sure
that
they're
looking
at
the
footnotes
too,
for
the
paragraph
in
question
so
on
my
little
screen
today,
I
can
only
see
footnote
one
I,
don't
know.
If
Alexander
you
want
to
scroll
for
a
minute
for
people
to
just
look
at
footnote
too.
Very
briefly,
the
citation.
E
E
D
D
E
A
settlement,
but
that's
fine,
okay,
all
right
thanks
for
flagging
that
all
right.
So
let's
go
to
the
third
paragraph
in
line
12
and
I
guess
here
we
have
a
substantive
question
to
look
at
first
or
along
with
looking
at
the
paragraph,
which
is
just
the
question
of
whether
the
recommendation
should
address
or
distinguish
among
differences
in
settlement
agreements.
E
C
F
C
About
who
I
don't
know
making
public,
which
agency
official
approved
the
settlement,
using
what
criteria
I
don't
know,
it
seems
a
little
bit
getting
into
too
much
detail
and
putting
more
burden
on
the
agency
to
do
something
that
it
wouldn't
otherwise
already
have
a
document
that
they
could
publish.
It
may
require
them
to
create
a
new
document,
as
it
were.
E
E
I'm
looking
for
hands
for
what
it's
worth
Bill,
that
was
my
reaction
as
well,
so
my
instinct
would
be
not
to
get
into
this
level
of
weeds
for
the
reason,
because
it's
more
substantive
than
the
transparency
points
that
we're
otherwise
making
but
I
would
be
delighted
to
hear
other
views
if
people
have
them
so
I'm,
just
looking
through
the
names
here
and
I,
see
none
and
so
I'll
again,
just
before
we
leave
the
paragraph
make
sure
nobody
wants
to
say
anything
about
anything
else.
In
the
paragraph
itself,.
E
Okay
and
seeing
none
boy,
I
did
maybe
I
set
this
up
wrong
by
saying:
let's
move
expeditiously
but
maybe
less
expeditiously,
because
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
comments.
I
am
not
speeding
us
through.
So
actually
you
know
Alexandra
and
Jeremy.
Do
you
want
to
sort
of
make
sure
that
this
pacing
is?
Is
okay,
I,
I,
okay,
I
mean
I?
E
E
D
E
B
E
B
C
Well,
I'm,
on
the
next
paragraph:
that's
fine,
okay
line
41,
where
it
says
such
as
confidentiality
and
efficient
dispute
resolution
I
just
strike
them.
I
mean
it's
not
that
they're
inaccurate,
but
that's
less
than
all
of
the
countervailing
interests,
and
we
only
talk
about
the
benefits
we
don't
try
to
identify,
which
are
the
benefits
of
disclosing,
so
I
just
thought:
benefits
of
proactively
disclosing
administrative
and
account
for
contravailing
interest
period.
E
E
E
G
G
E
H
E
C
I
was
just
going
to
say:
I
didn't
think
there
was
so
much
markup
that
making
a
clean
copy
would
make
a
difference.
It's
really
pretty
easy
to
read
and
I
I
mean
I.
Think
the
staff
did
a
great
job
in
writing.
The
Preamble
I
mean
it
was.
You
know
the
couple
of
little
knits,
but
you
know
essentially
it's
well
stated
and
and
captures
the
ideas
and
effectively
is
a
good
lead
into
the
recommendation.
So
I
mean
I.
Don't
think
we
need
to
drag
this
out
too
long.
C
E
All
right,
I
certainly
have
no
objection
to
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
unduly
speeding,
especially
since
I,
feel
some
responsibility
for
having
introduced
the
word
expeditious
to
our
initial
contemplation
of
the
Preamble
I
will,
however,
second,
your
comments
that
the
staff
did
a
great
job.
Okay,
so
I
think
if
it's
procedurally
in
order,
Alexandra
and
Jeremy
I
may
see
I'm
going
to
assume
unanimous
consent
of
the
committee
and
I
will
now
see
unless
anybody
objects.
E
E
And
I
think
that
did
not
Encompass
that
many
people
on
the
call
and
I
just
scrolled
through
to
see
if
I,
if
anybody
has
a
camera
with
a
hand
or
a
scritched
up
face,
looking
like
they're
trying
to
find
their
their
mute,
unmute
button
or
handwrites
button.
So,
okay,
so
I
think
then
that
may
that
may
be
our
substantive
work
so
again,
Alexandra
and
Jeremy.
E
E
Okay,
I
think
I.
If,
if
you
feel
comfortable
that
that's
the
stage,
we're
at
I
feel
comfortable
calling
for
such
a
vote
so
and
the
the
procedure
for
doing
that
is
just
to
say,
unanimous
consents
unless
anybody
objects.
Okay,
so
raise
your
hand,
I
guess.
If
you
object
to
voting
on
approving
the
Preamble
on
the
recommendation
combined.
E
Well,
maybe
I'll
just
have
to
start
using
the
word
expeditious
in
a
lot
of
places
in
my
life.
Maybe
it's
the
magic
word
to
just
move
through
things
so
with
that
I
think
just
some
quick
things
are
in
order.
So,
let's
again
thank
Elisa
for
writing
such
a
great
report
that
got
the
recommendation
and
Preamble
thoroughly
formulated
from
or
from
which
that
those
were
thoroughly
formulated.