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B
C
Okay,
yes
yeah,
we
now
eileena
was
going
to
ask
our
question.
Yeah.
Are
you
still
up
for
it
speak
up
there
we
go.
D
Kristen
from
your
presentation,
which
I
think
was
really
good
to
see
examples
from
london
how
you
dealing
with
it,
could
you
tell
us
a
bit
more
about
the
health
implication
of
heat,
because
we
would
like
to
kind
of
use
that
I
don't
know
whatever
you're
doing,
maybe
to
do
the
same
for
either
and
burning
if
this
temperature
will
change
dramatically
in
future
and
what
could
be
the
first
things
that
we
might
experience
here,
also
a
bit
broadly,
not
just
head,
maybe
slugging
here,
rising
yeah!
Thank
you!
C
Is
that
my
fault,
but
actually
you
are
asking
questions
for
jonathan
catherine
only
now
that
was
a
question
for
kristen.
Yes,
it
was
great
you're
asking
kristen
as
well.
That's
brilliant!
Yes,.
E
Kristen
sure
so,
thanks
for
the
question
yeah,
I
mean
I
think,
in
terms
of
health.
I
think
it's
two
things
mainly
just
first
of
all,
there's
a
direct
impact
of
climate
change
and
weather
impacts
on
human
health.
So
things
like
you
know,
issues
around
heat
that
cause
problems
for
people
that
already
have
underlying
sort
of
respiratory
or
cardiovascular
conditions.
E
There
are
actually
mental
health
impacts
for
people
to
do
with
flooding,
and
that's
there's
a
lot
more
evidence
coming
out
around
that.
So
thinking
about
like
people's
health
and
the
climate
change
impacts,
but
then
there's
also
the
issue
of
the
impacts
on
of
climate
change
on
the
delivery
of
health
services,
so
actually
understanding,
potentially
how
services
may
change
how
the
demand
for
services
may
change,
how
you
know
how
you
know,
people's
people's
health
might
might
change
demand
and
also
things
like
you
know:
how
do
you
get?
E
You
know
people
to
hospitals
and
do
you
have
like
the
kind
of
capacity
that
you
need?
So
it's
thinking
about
those
kinds
of
things
we've
done
in
in
london
and
I
can
probably
paste
into
the
the
chat
here
or
something
we've
done.
Some
studies
on
the
kind
of
health
impacts
of
climate
change,
in
particular,
and
also
some
guidance
on
how
to
do
a
joint
strategic
needs
assessment,
for
example,
when
thinking
about
climate
change
adaptation.
E
So
we
can
do
that,
and
we've
also
produced.
I
mentioned
at
the
very
end
of
my
presentation
before
about
social
vulnerability
and
climate
change
and
we're
finding
that
the
public
health
departments
in
some
of
the
london
boroughs
are
interested
in
that
information
and
thinking
about
particular
vulnerability,
especially
to
heat
at
the
moment,
because
and
that
sort
of
coinciding
a
lot
with
the
conversations
we're
having
about
covet
19
too,
because
we're
finding
that
some
of
the
underlying
health
conditions
that
make
people
vulnerable
to
covid
are
also
making
people
vulnerable
to
heat
impacts.
E
So
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that
and
about
the
inequalities
as
well,
but
also
another
important
thing
that
we're.
Finding
too,
is
that
covid
has
actually.
The
response
to
code
has
actually
created
opportunities
around
helping
to
identify
some
of
the
more
vulnerable
populations
in
terms
of
some
of
the
data
issues
that
we
sometimes
see
around
identifying
populations
and
so
forth.
E
So
that's
actually
created
some
opportunities
where
we
can
potentially
use
the
roots
in
that
we've
been
that
have
been
established
through
covid
response
and
think
about
how
we
can
use
those
on
thinking
about
heat
and
other
types
of
climate
impacts.
So
if
that
helps
I'll,
find
those
those
reports
and
things,
and
that-
and
I
can
paste
them
in
the
chat
for
you-
it
might
be
helpful.
A
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you,
kristen,
okay
and
chris
sisbury
ring
group.
Have
you
got
your
priority
question
for
jonathan
and
who's
asking
that.
C
B
F
F
Attitudes
it's
there
are.
There
are
many
many
more
people
today
who
are
much
more
aware
of
climate
change
than
they
used
to
be
before,
and
people
often
sort
of
try
and
point
out
that
there
is
just
a
huge
pool
of
indifference
out
there
or
even
ignorance.
It's
not
actually
true.
The
surveys
demonstrate
that
we
have
high
percentages
of
awareness
in
almost
all
oecd
countries
and
in
a
way
that
surprises
a
lot
of
people,
even
higher
levels
of
awareness
in
countries
such
as
china
and
india.
F
We
are
talking,
though,
about
the
need
to
up
the
ante
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
this
is
an
emergency,
and
maybe
that
hasn't
really
come
across
strongly
enough
today,
it's
not
that
we
have
decades
to
get
this
sorted
out.
We
don't
at
the
at
the
best.
We
have
a
decade
we
have
until
2030
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
put
in
place
the
kind
of
emission
reductions
that
you
heard
about
from
myself
and
from
christian
and
so
on,
and
I
don't
think
that
sense
of
urgency
is
there.
F
F
The
idea
that
our
generation
is
still
hanging
around
saying
this
is
something
we
can
sort
out
at
some
point
in
the
future
is
pretty
outrageous
to
them
frankly,
and
you
will
detect
ever-growing
levels
of
anger
on
the
part
of
young
people
that
we
continue
to
push
out
the
horizon.
So
my
my
concluding
thought
here
is
we're
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic
crisis.
It
is
absolutely
critical
that
both
national
governments
and
local
authorities
do
what
they
can
to
contribute
to
rebuilding
our
economies
now
simultaneously.
F
I
Hi
jonathan,
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
speak
to
us
today.
Our
question
was:
what
issues
should
we,
as
a
community,
be
looking
at
practically
to
help
climate
change
at
a
local
level
that
will
most
impact
on
a
global
level?.
F
The
critical
issues,
therefore,
are
housing
because
housing,
as
you
heard
from
lady
brown,
is
a
big
contributor.
Inefficient,
poorly
insulated
housing
is
a
big
contributor.
So
what
can
we
do
to
be
more
active
in
that
regard?
Is
it
possible
to
identify
places
where
the
local
authority
can
actually
intervene
to
help
raise
money
specifically
to
address
some
of
those
housing
issues?
West
berkshire,
for
instance,
has
just
raised
a
very
interesting
municipal
community
bond,
where
a
million
pounds
now
will
go
to
support
renewable
energy
opportunities
at
the
local
level.
F
I
think
it's
primarily
solar
panels
on
schools,
but
I
may
have
got
that
wrong,
but
it's
certainly
a
a
local
bond
to
create
investment
in
local
assets,
and
that,
I
think,
is
the
critical
opportunity
now
for
all
of
you
is
to
see
what
kind
of
the
asset
base
could
look
like
to
begin
to
make
a
real
difference
in
people's
lives.
H
H
Great
so
kristen
question
for
you
was:
can
we
still
have
an
impact
if
it
if
private
companies
are
running
everything,
so
what
can
we,
as
individuals
actually
do.
E
Thanks
it's
a
good
question,
I
mean,
and
I
I
understand
the
sentiment
that
it's
coming
from
I
mean
I
think
yeah
I
mean
to
me,
and
other
people
might
feel
differently
about
this
and
remember
that
I'm
coming
from
you
know
a
more
of
an
adaptation
perspective,
but
also
recognizing
that,
even
if
we
achieve
net
zero
tomorrow,
we're
still
looking
at
40
or
50
years
of
impacts
that
are
actually
built
into
the
system
from
past
emissions.
E
Having
said
that,
I
mean
what
can
individuals
do?
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
things
I
mean.
I
think
jonathan
pointed
out
that
in
around
speech
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
there
that
you
know
that
is
indicating
as
things
that
are
needed.
But,
frankly,
if
I'm
going
to
be
really
honest
and
say
what
can
sort
of
the
average
person
do,
I
would
say
it's
talk
to
your
politicians
like
actually
just
let
them
know
you
care
about
this.
E
E
You
know
that's
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
because
I
actually
think
that
you
know
it's
really
great
for
everyone
to
you
know
to
take
steps
you
know
to
to
consume
less
to
you
know,
to
eat
less
meat
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things,
but
I
think
you
know-
and
I
absolutely
advocate
for
all
of
that-
but
I
do
think
advocating
and
speaking
up
really
is
probably
the
best
way.
G
Yes,
so
we've
got
a
kind
of
more
personal
question
for
jonathan
it's
kind
of
builds
on
one
before,
but
I
think
we
want
to
really
yeah
hear
from
the
horse's
mouth
from
jonathan.
So
denise
is
going
to
ask
that
question.
J
Well,
I
thought
it
must
be
incredibly
frustrating
for
you
having
worked
in
this
area
for
like
40
years,
to
see
things
sort
of
moving
as
slowly
as
they
are.
Where
really
you
know,
we
need
action
now
and
then
in
my
mind
I
thought.
Well,
you
know,
councils
really
should
be
working
together
and
maybe
even
advising
government.
There
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
learning
and
you
know
even
from
other
countries,
so
you
did
touch
on
this
earlier
by
the
way.
But
you
know
we
thought
well,
you
know.
J
What
would
you
say
is
the
first
thing
we
could
implement
in
adrian
worthy
which
maybe
others
could
learn
from
too.
You
know
across
the
country.
F
And
actually
it
makes
me
angry
too,
because
the
years
we've
wasted
I'm
not
going
to
spend
long
on
this,
but
we
we
made
the
job
so
much
harder
for
ourselves
frankly
than
it
would
have
been
had
we
started
doing
just
the
sensible
stuff
a
long
time
ago.
So
in
terms
of
the
practicalities
of
all
of
this,
I
think
it's
really
critical
not
to
try
and,
as
it
were,
sort
out
the
entirety
of
this
story,
all
in
one
fell
swoop.
F
The
example
that
actually
comes
from
many
many
other
organizations,
both
in
the
private
sector
and
the
public
sector,
is
that
if
you
start
to
just
do
the
next
important
thing
and
you
get
good
at
doing
that,
then
you
get
the
confidence
to
do
the
next
slightly
harder
thing,
and
this
is
a
story
that
I
think
actually
the
private
sector
has
been
better
at
understanding
than
others.
F
The
first
question
to
christians
about
health,
because
some
of
the
biggest
benefits
undoubtedly
come
by
enabling
people
to
live
healthier
lives
than
would
otherwise
be
the
case.
Adrian
working
is
not
a
a
district
that
I
know.
Well,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
So
I
can't
speak
with
authority
as
to
what
would
really
matter
most.
F
Some
of
the
strongest
stuff
coming
out
now
is
about
housing,
about
transport
and
about
green
spaces,
and
if
you
try
and
look
at
the
co-benefits
the
health
quality
of
life
well-being,
climate
issues,
all
together,
green
spaces
is
a
really
really
important
part
of
the
picture.
I
have
in
my
mind
that
adrian
welding
is
already
a
pretty
green
area.
I
may
be
wrong
about
that,
but
I've
sort
of
got
a
mental
picture.
That
makes
me
see
you
all
living
in
quite
leafy
green
surroundings,
but
that
is
a
real
asset
for
a
local
community
and
the.
F
About
this
is
astonishing,
so
improvements,
even
in
children's
cognitive
abilities
for
those
who
live
in
green
spaces,
leafy
green
spaces
and
those
who
don't
so
build
on
the
things
that
you've
already
got
the
assets
you've
already
got.
Do
the
next
most
obvious
thing
that
you
can
do
and
take
the
confidence
from
that
to
go
on
and
do
other
things.
G
Okay,
like
shall
I
ask
the
we've,
got
another
question
for
for
kristen.
G
We
didn't
quite
get
a
chance
to
agree,
so
I
said
I
would
just
speak
to
the
question,
so
so
it's
picking
up
johnson's
point
just
about
green
spaces
actually
and
what
the
group
was
was
saying,
and
why
are
we
building
more
houses
on
land
when
we
are
wanting
to
plant
more
trees
and
one
of
the
specific
questions
was
so?
How
might
the
council
like,
like
here,
use
its
influence
to
indeed
enforce
the
practice
of
housing
developers
to
ensure
that
there
are
trees
planted
more
green
spaces?
G
E
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
a
really
tough
one,
just
given
what
I
know
about
planning
and
the
the
sort
of
strength
of
developers
in
this
space-
and
I
think
I
mean
you
know
I
well
and
the
other
thing
is,
I
think
our
well.
I
guess
it
depends
on
sort
of
where
your
planning
policy
is
and
stuff
like
that,
because
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
you
know.
There's
such
thing
as
having
really
good
planning
policy.
E
The
london
plan
in
london
has
a
lot
of
really
good
policies
around
considering
green
space,
in
particular,
but
also
sort
of
green
space
for
health
impact.
As
jonathan
was
saying,
you
can
make
those
links
and
and
also
for
flood
risk
management
and
stuff,
like
that.
E
The
problem
is
that
we
often
do
find
that
there's
a
huge
gap
between
what
is
required
by
the
planning
authority
planning
policy
and
what
actually
gets
delivered
on
the
ground,
and
that
comes
back
to
all
sorts
of
issues
around
planning
capacity
and,
and
you
know,
arguments
about
viability
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
I
think
it's
really
really
tangled.
But
again,
I
think
you
know
it's
about
people,
people
speaking
up
and
saying
this
is
what
we
actually
want.
These
are
the
types
of
spaces
that
we
want.
E
I
would
also
just
say
too,
that
just
kind
of
as
an
aside
that
it's
absolutely
crucial
that
we
think
about
green
spaces
and
think
about
and
and
we're
starting
to
understand,
better
about
the
the
need
for
them
and,
and
especially
around
kind
of
in
the
response
to
coving,
recognizing
that
the
lack
of
green
space
is
a
really
difficult
one
and
that
actually
there
is
a
huge
inequality
in
terms
of
access
to
green
space
and
the
types
of
brain
spaces
that
people
can
that
people
can
use.
E
So
hopefully,
all
of
this
brings
in
a
bit
of
momentum.
I
don't
have
a
great
answer
for
how
you
overcome
the
issues
related
to
sort
of
viability
and
the
power
of
developers
to
do
what
they
want.
Despite
you
know
what
might
be
in
the
plan
in
the
plans
and
what
might
be
in
the
rules.
So
that's
a
really
difficult
one
for
me
again,
I
think
there's
got
to
be
some
sort
of
issue
of
political
pressure
there
and
the
government
seems
to
be
going
the
wrong
way
on
all
of
that.
E
So
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
a
really
great
answer
for
it,
but
I
also
think
there
there
are
opportunities
in
things
like
retrofit
as
well
and
understanding
what
people
are
trying
to
do
with
the
spaces
that
they
already
have.
And
you
know,
different
kinds
of
solutions
to
different
types
of
problems
and
considering
green
space
as
a
potential
solution
that
can
meet
a
lot
of
different
types
of
benefits
in
existing
stock,
as
well
as
things
that
aren't
built.
Yet.
A
Thank
you
christian,
and
actually
it's
really
important
to
know
where
things
are
difficult
and
there
aren't
easy
answers
and
there
are
still
issues.
So
that's
really
helpful.
I'm
going
to
ask
catherine,
I
know
she's
quite
new
in
her
role
as
director
of
communities,
but
I
thought
she
might
have
something
to
contribute
about
the
housing
and
the
planning
policy.
K
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
am
new
enroll,
but
one
of
my
big
focuses
is
around
housing
and
echoing
some
of
the
stuff.
That
kristen
said
is
that
one
of
the
difficulties
is
not
just
making
sure
that
the
right
stuff's
done
in
the
planning
application.
K
It's
then
making
sure
that
it's
followed
up
on
we're
pretty
tight
around
this
kind
of
thing,
and
it's
something
we
prioritize
because,
as
alex
said
this
morning,
sustainability
has
been
quite
priority
for
the
councils
for
a
while,
but
as
we're
moving
forward
and
I'm
working
on
a
housing
development
strategy.
You
know
just
starting
to
look
at
that
right
now
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
really
keen
to
do
is
to
look
at.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
use?
K
K
I
just
want
to
echo
the
point
that
custom
made
as
well
about
getting
political
on
this,
which
is
that,
so
you
know,
sort
of
one
of
the
things
we're
most
worried
about
at
the
moment
is
that
the
planning
reforms
which
are
planned
at
the
moment
do
step
really
much
into
this
space
and
remove
some
of
our
control
in
this
area,
and
if
there
was
anything
that
you're
looking
at
nationally,
which
could
undermine
our
ability
to
deliver
on
that.
That
would
be
something
to
look
at.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
shawn
beach,
matt
over
to
you
and
your
group.
L
Yeah
so
we've
got,
I
think
one
question
for
jonathan
and
one
for
kristen
and
I
think
mary
can
I
mary
a.
I
think
you've
got
a
question
for
kristen.
M
Okay,
fine
jonathan,
at
the
end
of
your
talk,
you
touched
upon
the
need
for
efficiency
gains
around
seven
percent
per
annum,
and
I
just
we
just
wondered
as
a
group
if
you
could
expand
on
that
a
little
bit
and
also
if
that
figure
was
in
order
to
hit
net
zero
by
2030
or
or
what?
What
that
game,
that
level
of
efficiency?
What
what
that's
working
towards.
F
Yes,
indeed,
and
and
actually
was
really
helpful.
Listening
to
lady
brown
unfold,
all
of
the
different
areas
in
which
we
need
to
achieve
these
efficiency
gains.
So
it
is
pretty
much
across
the
piece.
There's
no
question
about
that.
If
you
consider,
for
instance,
transportation
the
question
of
moving
away
from
the
internal
combustion
engine
and
as
rapidly
as
possible
towards
electric
vehicles
and
possibly
electric
vehicles
plus
hybrids,
but
electric
vehicles
will
be
better.
F
That
is
a
huge
efficiency
gain
because
you're
then
getting
that
amount
of
mobility
miles
traveled
as
it
were
for
a
far
lower
emission
of
greenhouse
gases,
because
it's
coming
from
electricity
not
from
burning
either
petrol
or
diesel
in
terms
of
housing
stock,
for
instance.
If
we
can
now
take
advantage
of
this
buildback
better
notion,
the
government
has
set
aside
two
billion
pounds
with
a
green
homes
grant.
F
If
we
can
use
that
money
intelligently,
then
we
could
make
large
numbers
of
housing
much
more
efficient
and
with
each
of
those
investments
that
is
made
house
by
house
building
by
building,
you
can
get
the
same
energy
services
that
you
need,
the
same
heating
lighting,
etc,
but
for
far
less
energy
consumed.
So
again
you
get
a
efficiency
gain
and
it
really
is
a
story
about
efficiency
across
the
entire
piece.
F
Now,
at
the
moment,
the
focus
is
on
this
notion
of
net
zero
by
2050
and
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
that
anybody
has
explained
net
zero.
Yet
I
don't
know
whether
that's
something
you're
holding
in
store
for
next
weekend,
but
anyway,
tell
me
if
you,
if
I
can
help
on
that
one,
but
net
zero
by
2050
is
nothing
like
urgent
enough.
I
mean
I
can't
tell
you
how
cross
it
makes
me
that
we're
pegging
our
entire
strategy
and
all
the
policy
interventions
on
a
2050
date.
F
We
really
need
to
be
talking
about
2040,
and
there
are
many
many
experts
who
think
that
2035
is
really
the
date
by
which
we
should
be
aiming
to
become
net
zero.
So,
every
time
I
hear
people
talk
about
2050
I
get
a
little
bit
don't
get
too
complacent
about
2050,
because
I
can
almost
guarantee
that,
as
the
impacts
of
climate
change
continue
to
get
worse
and
worse,
we
will
see
that
date
come
much
closer
to
where
we
are
today
certainly
come
to
2040
within
the
course
of
the
next
few
years.
A
Thanks
jonathan
and
if
we've
got
time
for
the
end,
I'll
bring
you
back
in
to
talk
about
net
zero,
but
just
gonna
go
from
get
through
the
questions.
First,
yeah.
F
M
As
well-
okay,
first
one's
for
for
kristen-
I
know
from
your
work
in
london.
M
So
we
know
that
one
of
the
big
things
around
transport
is
about
changing
behaviors
and
getting
people
out
of
cars
and
onto
public
transport
and
also
into
car
sharing
systems
as
well-
and
we
know
in
london
there's
a
lot
of
things
like
car
clubs
to
get
people
away
from
the
model
of
consumerism
and
all
buying
their
own
cars
and
then
just
leaving
them
parked
up
just
wondered
if
you've
got
any
data
or
information
you
could
share
with
us
in
adam
worthing
about
the
impact
or
the
the
successes
and
the
challenges
of
switching
people's
behavior
patterns
from
I
need
my
own
car
to.
E
Cool
thanks,
I
don't
actually,
but
it's
something
I
could
go
back
and
find,
and
I
can
send
back
to
you
because
we've
got
a
huge
sort
of
transport
and
air
quality
team
in
london
in
the
gla
and
yeah.
They
will
have
a
lot
of
that
data,
so
what
I
can
do
is
just
make
a
note
and
go
away
and
ask
them
about
what
they
think
about
those
behavior
change
programs.
E
I
mean,
I
would
suspect
a
lot
of
it
is
because
we
have
you
know
such
a
really
really
good
public
transport
system
here
in
london,
and
you
know
and
are
using
a
lot
of
the
time-
and
you
know
away
essence
lock
down
and
stuff
like
that
to
to
create
more
cycle
lanes
and,
and
things
like
that
and
to
try
to
make
those
permanent.
We
also
see
that
we're
having
we're
having
a
lot
of
roads,
may
you
know,
become
pedestrianized
all
over
the
place
in
london.
E
Interestingly,
we're
also
seeing
a
huge
public
backlash
to
some
of
that.
I
think
that
you
know
making
a
lot
of
london
or
any
city
or
any
area.
Pedestrianized
is
a
great
idea.
I
think
you
know
in
the
future.
It
looks
like
a
really
good
thing.
I
think
the
transitional
period
between
here
and
there
could
be
a
bit
tricky.
E
But
in
any
case
I
will
try
and
go
back
and
find
out
from
my
colleagues
what
they
think
about
the
behavior
issues
and
how
you
get
people
more
on
board,
with
more
sustainable
transport
and
I'll.
Come
back
to
you.
A
Thank
you
much
appreciated,
catherine.
A
Can
I
bring
you
in
to
talk
about
some
of
the
changes
from
covert
and
transport
in
aid
unworthy.
K
Yeah
I
mean,
obviously
the
kind
of
infrastructure
we've
got
is
is
not
what
you've
got
in
london,
but
everybody
locally
will
have
noticed
the
cycle
lanes
that
have
gone
in,
which
has
been
both
exciting
and
a
little
bit
disturbing
for
us,
because
we
know
that
they've
gone
in
quite
quickly
and
some
of
the
work
that
you
might
do
around
behavior
change
in
implementing
a
policy
that,
like
that
hasn't
happened
because
they've
gone
in
quickly.
K
K
On
buses,
you
know,
because
we've
got
the
train,
that
whizzes
along
the
coast,
but
really
public
transport
for
us
is
about,
is
about
buses
and
so
finding
ways
to
do
that
in
a
low
carbon
waste
can
be
really
important.
I
said
the
other
thing
to
say
is
that
car
sharing
is
something
that
we'd
be
really
interested
in
exploring.
K
We
know
that,
quite
apart
from
the
public
transport
benefits
of
that
and
climate
as
a
result,
is
that
we
know
there's
massive
pressure
on
parking
and
we'd
much
rather
have
more
green
spaces
and
fewer
car
parking
spaces.
If
we
could
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
but
behavior
change
like
that
is
something
we
have
to
do
with
the
community.
I
think
the
idea
of
imposing
it
from
the
council
won't
work.
K
A
N
Hi,
hello,
so
yeah.
My
question
was:
we
were
quite
shocked
to
hear
how
much
energy
goes
into
feeding
cattle
and
sheep
etc.
We
wondered.
Is
there
any
alternatives
to
feeding
them.
F
Sheep
have
a
much
cleaner
bill
of
health
you'll,
be
pleased
to
know,
because
I
suspect
you've
got
quite
a
few
sheep
wandering
around
in
that
part
of
the
world
and
because
they're
almost
always
just
fed
on
grass.
The
real
problem
is
when
you're
feeding
beef,
not
on
grass,
but
on
these
intensive
feeds,
which
are
often
imported,
almost
always
imported
from
other
countries
and
the
feedstuffs
that
go
into
producing
pork
and
chicken,
and
there
really
aren't
that
ready
a
bunch
of
alternatives.
F
We're
not
going
to
be
able
to
source
enough
feed
if
we
keep
on
growing
the
amount
of
animal
protein
that
we
have
in
our
diets
globally.
So
I
think
both
kristen-
and
I
have
mentioned
this-
the
the
story
here
is
very
much
focused
on
reducing
the
amount
of
animal
protein.
F
Now
a
lot
of
people
go
yeah
when
they
hear
about
this,
but
I'll
just
give
you
a
little
pointer
for
the
future.
You
can
absolutely
guarantee
that
more
and
more
product
of
that
kind
will
come
into
our
stores
and
our
shops
and
even
into
our
fast
food
outlets
over
the
course
of
the
next
five
years,
and
they
don't
have
any
problems
in
terms
of
the
feed
that
they
use,
because
it's
all
done
in
a
sort
of
industrial
vat,
bioreactor
type
conditions,
and
we
probably
don't
like
the
idea
of
it.
Now.
A
Sounds
yummy
jonathan
good
and
for
your
second
question,
yeah
our
second
question
for
kristen
is
going
to
be
posed
by.
O
O
E
E
I
think
what
you
can
do
in
terms
of
everything
from
you
know,
potentially
thinking
about
new
development
and
thinking
about
you
know
how
you
have
water,
how
you
use
water
in
new
development
in
london,
we're
trying
to
promote
the
use
of
water,
doing
water
reuse
in
in
new
development
and
we're
trying
to
build
the
evidence
space
for
that,
so
that's
actually
created
within
new
buildings,
a
system
that
can
actually
accommodate
sort
of
gray
water
as
well
as
fresh
water.
E
That's
you
know
so
we're
trying
to
incorporate
that,
even
if
people
aren't
using
the
system
yet
and
just
make
sure
that
it's
there
so
that
when
the
when
the
technology
is
in
place,
we
can
do
that
and
then
there's.
Of
course
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
retrofit
that
people
can
do.
There
are
a
lot
of
demand
management,
kind
of
programs
that
people
can
do
thames
water
has
and
most
water
companies.
E
I
think,
have
some
services
that
you
know
like
smarter,
home
visits
or
smarter
business
visits
where
they
will
actually
go
and
and
do
water
efficiency
retrofits
for
free
for
a
lot
of
their
customers.
So
you
know
something
that
we
can
definitely
promote.
I
think
the
thing
is,
I
think
you
know
it's,
it's
a
huge,
it's
another
one
of
those
huge
what
they
call
behavior
change
issues
around
climate
change,
getting
people
to
use
water.
E
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things,
that's
quite
difficult.
It's
it's
especially
difficult!
If
you
know,
if
you're
just
kind
of
trying
to
do
it
by
word
of
mouth
or
just
through
a
kind
of
sort
of
individual
projects,
it's
actually
a
sort
of
behavior
change
movement
that
needs
a
lot
of
resource
behind
it
and
a
lot
of
sort
of
push
behind
it,
and
I
think
you
know
you
can
get
people
who
are
already
sort
of
bought
into
this
idea
to
to
do
really
simple
stuff.
E
You
know
like
using
you
know,
devices
and
things
to
use
to
promote
sort
of
less
water
use
in
homes
and
things
like
that
or
just
encourage
people
to
take
shorter
showers
and
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
It's
sort
of
it's
kind
of
basic
stuff,
but
it's
actually,
you
know
it
does
work,
and
hopefully
we
can
sort
of
spread
that
kind
of
thinking
out
a
lot
wider,
but
for
people
who
are
not
sort
of
bought
in
and
really
convinced
of
the
whole
thing,
you
know
it's
it's
a
little
bit
trickier.
E
So
that
is
something
we
can
do.
I
mean-
and
I
don't
know
from
the
supply
side
really
where
worthing
is
in
london.
We
know
we
need
new
supplies
and
we're
actually
thinking
about
developing
those
as
well,
but
from
the
demand
side.
There's
an
awful
lot
more.
We
can
do
and
it
would
just
be
great
to
see
more
resource
put
into
that.
A
A
So
I
think
that's
what
our
questions
asked.
We
do
have
about
five
minutes
that
we
can
add
to
explore
what
net
zero
really
means.
Jonathan,
if
you're!
Okay,
would
you
take
us
through
that?
Please.
F
Sure
now
I
can
shed
a
little
bit
of
light
on
this,
because,
interestingly,
people
may
think
that
this
terminology
has
been
with
us
forever.
It's
quite
a
new
bit
of
terminology
even
for
climate
geeks
people
have
been
talking
about
this
stuff
forever.
We
never
used
to
talk
much
about
net
zero.
It
was
always
carbon
neutral
or
something
like
that.
So
what
net
zero?
F
If
you
take
2050
okay
and
you
look
at
a
total
emissions
in
2050,
we
will
be
able
to
reduce
emissions
pretty
dramatically
by
2050
in
almost
all
areas,
but
we
will
not
be
able
to
reduce
them
to
zero.
F
So
it
compensates
for
the
emissions
that
we're
still,
unfortunately
responsible
for
at
that
time
and
that's
what
is
called
the
net
story.
You're
netting
off
the
emissions
that
you're
still
responsible
for
by
including
changes
in
land
use,
so
you've
heard
today
a
lot
about
tree
planting.
This
is
a
big
part
of
the
deal
trees
absorb
co2.
We
need,
we
need
massive
tree
planting
schemes.
I
don't
think
people
really
understand
the
degree
to
which
we're
going
to
have
to
change
approach
to
tree
planting.
F
We
need
to
have
farming
systems
that
absorb
co2
into
the
soil,
so
instead
of
emitting
co2,
they
absorb
co2
and
wherever
we've
got
a
special
area,
any
wetlands
or
peat
bogs
whatever
it
might
be.
I
suspect
that's
not
the
case
in
adrenal
welding,
then
we
need
to
protect
those
and
ensure
that
they
absorb
more
co2
rather
than
emit
co2.
So
this
is
what
the
the
net
story
is.
We
can't
get
to
absolute
zero,
but
what
we
can
do
is
change
our
land
use
practices
in
order
to
get
to
net
zero.
A
Lovely,
thank
you.
Okay.
What
I'm
going
to
ask
people
to
do
is
turn
their
mute
buttons
off,
because
I'd
like
us
to
give
an
actual,
vocal
random
flaws
of
thanks
to
all
our
speakers
today.
So
if
you
could
unmute
yourself.
A
That
really
was
very
so
much
food
for
thought
there
so
much
to
consider
and
think
about
and
really
set
us
off
in
terms
of
getting
an
understanding
of
the
the
topic
and
the
breadth
and
depth
that
we
are
going
to
be
needing
to
go
into
over
these
few
months.