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A
I'm
the
chief
executive
of
adrian
worthing
councils,
and
just
to
be
clear
to
folk
that
I'm
not
a
politician.
A
I
have
the
privilege
of
leading
round
about
700
staff
who
provide
services
to
you
as
residents
and
all
of
the
residents
of
our
district
and
borough
and
as
councils
of
course,
we've
we've
called
the
climate
assembly
and
and
what
what
catherine
and
I
will
do
over
the
next
20
25
minutes
or
so
is
talk
a
little
bit
about.
A
Why
and
the
context
in
which
we
do
that
I'll
start
by
by
spending
10
minutes
or
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
councils
and
our
places
that
that
are
raider
and
worthing.
You
will
know
more
about
your
communities
and
your
places
in
some
detail
than
do.
I
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
an
assembly.
A
Why
call
an
assembly
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
your
involvement
is
important
and
the
impact
it
might
just
have
and
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
things
that
as
councils
were
already
doing
around
the
climate
change
agenda?
I
should
say
up
front
that
I'm
really
excited
that
we've
got
to
this
point.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
I
have
to
say
there
were
times
during
the
course
of
this
year
when
genuinely
I
was
unsure
whether
whether
we'd
get
to
the
starting
point,
mainly
because
of
the
pandemic.
A
Obviously,
so
I'm
delighted
that
we've
got
here
and
my
other
personal
noticing,
while
I
was
waiting
to
talk
to
you,
was
actually
I'm
slightly
jealous
looking
at
the
folk
who
are
coming
to
talk
to
you
to
share
with
you,
looking
at
the
kind
of
conversations
that
you
have
that
I
think
you're
going
to
have
there's
some
extraordinary
things
here
to
get
into.
So
I
I
own
my
jealousy
about
about
not
being
an
assembly
member.
A
First
of
all,
what
I
wanted
to
say-
and
I
want
to
say
this
really
loudly
actually
is.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
hearing
the
call
that
we
put
out
and
thank
you
for
responding
to
it.
It
is
really
important.
A
I
know
you
are
giving
up
a
lot
of
time
and
you're,
giving
up
many
of
you
precious
weekend
time
to
get
involved
and
to
step
up
and
do
your
thing.
You're
busy
people
you've
got
busy
lives,
and
I
don't
underestimate
the
ask
that
we
have
made
of
45
of
you
to
come
forward
and
do
this
work.
Thank
you
as
well
for
caring
enough
about
the
subject
matter
to
want
to
give
up
that
time
and
become
involved
it.
As
I
say,
the
subject
matter
is
vital.
A
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
moment,
and
thank
you
for
being
intrigued
enough
to
come
and
have
a
go
at
an
assembly
to
come
and
play
with
it.
Explore
it
understand
what
what
works,
what
works
in
it!
The
methodology
as
mel
said,
is
new.
It's
also
ancient,
as
you
may
be
aware,
but
it's
an
important
part
of
our
civic
responsibility.
A
I
would
say
in
in
democratic
society
that
there
are
a
range
of
ways
that
we
come
together
to
hear,
to
have
our
voices
heard
and
to
make
decisions
and
to
weigh
up
options,
and
things
and
assemblies
might
just
be
a
really
interesting
way
forward
for
us
on
that
further,
thank
you
actually
to
all
to
mel
and
the
gang
and
everybody
who's
organized
it.
It
may
look
seamless
up
front
to
the
45
assembly
members,
but
I
know
how
hard
how
tricky
some
of
this
stuff
has
been.
A
Trying
to
do
this
stuff
online
isn't
isn't,
is
no
walk
in
the
park.
I
can
assure
you
I'm
so
moving
on
so
who,
who
are,
if
you
like,
who
are
adrian
worthing
council,
so
do
about
the
councils
for
a
moment,
if
I
may,
some
of
you
will
be
aware,
ada
district
council
and
worthing
borough
council
are
your
local
authorities.
A
We
we
operate
in
what's
called
a
two-tier
system,
so,
as
well
as
having
a
district
and
borough
council,
you
will
also
be
part
of
a
county
council,
in
our
case
west
sussex
county
council,
and
so
that,
particularly
when
we're
thinking
about
climate
that
can
make
for
some
interesting
divisions
of
responsibilities.
A
So,
at
a
county
council
level,
the
county
council
do
things
like
social
care
like
education,
but
there's
a
whole
range
of
things
around
transport,
whether
that's
highways
or
cycling
or
whatever
at
where
things
become
even
more
complicated,
is
around
the
area
of
waste
because
we,
as
districts
and
borough
councils,
collect
waste
west
sussex
county
council
dispose
of
the
waste.
So
if
you
like
we
hand
the
waste
over
to
the
county,
who
then
who
then
do
a
range
of
disposal
activities
for
it?
The
situation
becomes
even
more
complicated.
A
A
There's
a
big
debate
going
on
at
the
moment
about
one
tier
two
tier
three
tier,
but
I
don't
think
that's
particularly
relevant
for
what
you're
doing
today,
the
places
the
communities
of
adrian
worthing
in
round
numbers
about
180
000
people,
something
like
that
again
in
round
numbers
about
seventy
thousand
in
ada,
in
the
five
towns
of
ada,
and
about
a
hundred
and
ten
thousand
in
worthing
in
in
the
town
of
worthy,
and
it's
increasingly
growing
suburbs.
You
will
know
we
are
a
coastal
strip.
A
You
will
know
we
have
pockets
of
affluence
and
pockets
of
relative.
Of
that
sorry,
relative
poverty.
You
will
appreciate
to
the
north
is
this:
is
the
south
downs
and
the
national
park
and
to
the
south
is
the
sea
that
means
that
our
little
strip
of
land
is
quite
problematic
to
use
living
and
for
humans
to
use
some
of
our
transport?
A
Some
of
our
transport
infrastructure
is
not
brilliant,
partly
because
options
to
the
north
and
south
are
limited
compared
to
towns,
like
I
don't
know
oxford
where
all
where
you
can
trans,
where
you
can
transport
in
from
all
directions.
Our
population
as
a
whole
is
slightly
older
than
the
national
average.
Although
we're
seeing
what
I
call
a
demographic
churn
at
the
moment
as
that
older
population,
without
actually
dying,
we're
seeing
younger
folk
moving
in
or
younger
families
are
taking
up
the
accommodation
that
they
were
occupying
in
terms
of
our
economy.
A
It's
predominantly
what
I'd
call
a
service
sector
economy
with
some
manufacturing,
so
a
service
sector
can
be
anything
from
accountancy
firms
to
pubs
bars.
Restaurants,
clubs
nightclubs
things
like
that,
but
particularly
based
around
tourism
and
leisure,
and
we
do
of
course
have
a
number
of
jobs
in
in
manufacturing
sector.
A
So
that's
that's
both
micro
manufacturers,
but
also
the
big
boys
so
gsk,
you
know
making
augmenting,
which
is
a
important
global
antibiotic,
ricardo
engineering,
several
hundred
jobs
on
that
site
and
people
you're,
probably
probably
aware
of
like
higgity
pies
in
showroom
manufacturing
at
a
decent
scale,
and
we
have
some
of
the
new
economy,
businesses
so
predominantly
tech
and
digital
businesses
at
the
moment,
slightly
less
in
the
green
economy.
But
that's
a
that's
a
question
mark.
A
Where
do
people
work
so
they
work
in
those
the
jobs
are
in
those
areas,
but
also
across
our
patch.
The
jobs
are
in
public
sector
jobs,
so
actually
not
so
much
councils,
if
I'm
honest,
more
education,
further
education
and,
of
course,
the
health
sector,
so
having
effectively
two
hospitals,
particularly
worthy
hospital,
an
extraordinary
number
of
jobs
in
the
health
sector
for
our
places.
A
You'll
also
be
aware,
in
terms
of
our
challenges,
that
our
environment
is
highly
urban
back
of
packet.
Calculation,
less
than
10
of
the
land
in
adrian
worthing,
does
not
have
a
building
on
it
or
isn't
effectively
a
brownfield.
So
there
is
very
little
space
at
the
margins,
and
perhaps
one
of
our
biggest
challenges
is
is
is
how
that
land
gets
used
and
the
various
contests
that
go
on
around
it.
So
if
a
lan,
if
a
piece
of
land
becomes
available,
is
it
used
for
housing?
Is
it
used
for
jobs?
A
Is
it
used
for
some
other
purpose?
Is
it
in
fact
used
for
it
for
an
ecological
purpose
that
that's
contested
and
difficult
stuff?
A
If
I'm
honest
right
now
for
us
as
councils,
I
I
can't
remember
working
in
local
government
in
a
more
challenging
time,
I'm
talking
to
you
in
the
middle
of
a
public
health
crisis,
I'm
talking
to
you
in
and
on
the
verge
of
a
greater
economic
crisis
and
therefore
some
of
the
social
consequences
of
both
of
those,
and
none
of
that
means
that
the
fundamental
climate
crisis
has
gone
away.
Quite
the
contrary.
A
Actually
the
climate
to
me
remains
probably
our
most
difficult,
complex
issue
to
try
and
quote
fix
and
to
try
and
work
out
what
are
the
things
we
could
and
should
be
doing
that
actually
have
a
significant
and
long-term
impact
as
councils
again,
you
may
be
aware.
Last
summer
both
councils
declared
climate
emergencies,
but
didn't
just
declare
they
actually
said.
No,
we
want
to
make
we
want
to
do
things
about
this.
It's
fine
having
a
lovely
banner
up,
but
let's,
let's
see
what
we
can
do
so.
A
Actually,
we've
brought
sustainability
into
one
of
our
major
policy
planks
and
a
range
of
activity
from
from
getting
our
own
house
in
order.
So
we
have,
we
have
committed
and
are
planning
to
become
carbon
neutral
by
2030.
A
That
won't
surprise
you
to
know
that's
predominantly
around
energy
around
buildings
and
how
we
use
various
buildings,
including
a
housing
stock
and
transport,
the
fleets
of
vehicles.
We
have,
for
example,
to
empty
your
bins,
not
surprisingly,
at
the
moment
discharge
quite
a
lot
of
diesel
fumes,
and
so
so
carbon
moving
to
carbon
neutrality
by
2030
is
not
easy.
However,
we
have
a
plan
and
an
approach
to
some
of
that
stuff,
as
well
as
carbon.
A
There
is
a
really
important
policy
driver
for
us
about
our
ecological
systems
and
the
collapse
of
our
ecological
systems,
and
that
can
be
big
stuff.
So
some
of
you
may
have
seen
that
relatively
recently
fact
things.
Last
week
the
council
decided
to
buy
a
new
salts
farm,
so
at
70
hectares,
south
of
the
south
of
shoreham
airport.
Now
the
plan
there
is
to
restore
the
ecological
systems
and
enhance
the
ecological
systems
exactly
how
is
to
be
determined,
but
it
is
actually
to
protect
it
from
what
what
would
otherwise
be
a
prime
housing
housing
development
site.
A
It's
not
always
easy
to
do
that.
There
isn't
always
the
cash
to
do
that.
It
was
just
that
in
some
ways
we
got
fortunate
and
saw
an
opportunity
and
moved
in
on
that
one,
but
we're
looking
at
our
parks,
we're
looking
at
our
seafront,
we're
looking
at
waste
and
how
we
collect
and
what
we
collect
we're
looking
at
rewinding
we're
looking
at,
for
example,
the
ada
river
valley
and
some
of
the
opportunities
for
for
ecological
enhancement
there.
A
I
suppose
there's
an
and
here
and
that's
fine,
that's
the
councils,
but
climate
change
and
addressing
climate
change
is
not
just
about
the
councils.
It's
about
the
communities
at
a
local
level
and
that
old
adage
that
when
I
was
very
much
younger,
I
used
to
use
about
thinking,
global
and
acting
local
has
never
been
more
pertinent.
A
Frankly,
no
no
one
body
sector
group
of
folk
are
going
to
make
significant
impact.
It
really
does
require
concerted
collective
action.
So
back
in
the
spring
we
held
a
climate
conference.
I
think
it
was
about
300
350
folk
from
a
variety
of
interested
and
concerned
organizations
from
businesses
to
schools,
to
third
sector
organizations,
campaigning
bodies.
Local
community
groups
came
together
and
actually
one
of
the
things
that
was
very
loudly
heard
by
us
was
we
wanted.
We
think
we
need
a
climate
assembly
and,
frankly,
that's
why
we're
here?
A
That's
why
we're
here
and
you're
here
today.
So
the
call
is
not
just
from
the
councils
for
the
work
that
you
will
be
doing.
The
call
is
actually
from
your
communities
from
those
180
000
people
who
who
live
here.
They
think
this
matters
as
much
as
I
do,
or
the
councils
do
or
politicians
do
as
well.
A
Mel
talked
earlier
on
actually
about
about
a
deep
understanding
and
gaining
a
deep
understanding
of
complicated
stuff
and
critically
the
work
that
I
believe
you
will
do,
and
some
of
you
will
be
aware
of
the
the
ideas
around
the
wisdom
of
crowds,
but
actually
45,
well-informed,
intelligent
members
of
a
community
can
come
up
with
some
extraordinary
stuff,
practical,
community-owned
community-based
solutions
which
we
can
act
on,
and
I
say
we,
I
don't
just
mean
the
councils,
but
potentially
other
bodies,
potentially
as
communities,
potentially
as
business
sectors,
things
that
we
can
actually
try
and
make
happen,
and,
if
you
like,
that
is
the
wide.
A
So
it's
those
those
practical,
practical
solutions,
just
a
couple
of
moments
from
me
on
the
concept
of
assemblies-
and
I
think
catherine,
will
talk
in
a
moment
a
little
bit
more
about
about
the
work
and
the
question
that
we've
posed
to
you.
As
mel
said
climate
assembly,
a
citizens
assembly
is,
is
an
experiment
for
us,
it's
new
to
us.
It's
the
first
time
we've
done
one,
and
I
think
mel
mel
was
also
right.
A
That
said,
I'm
personally,
I'm
not
just
interested
in
the
the
product
that
you
come
up
with
the
solutions,
the
recommendations
you
come
up
with,
but
I'm
really
interested
in
your
view
of
the
process,
because
if
you
come
back
and
say
actually
this
is
a
really
useful
process,
then
I
see
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
develop
it
and
use
it
to
tackle
some
of
the
other
wicked
issues
that,
quite
frankly,
we
face
down
here
on
on
the
south
coast.
A
I
am
aware
of
assemblies
that
have
taken
place
in
in
london,
around
knife,
crime
and
antisocial,
behavior
and
and
housing
issues
that
have
actually
been
been
incredibly
useful.
So
I
I'm
I'm
you.
A
Very
interested
to
see
the
process
that
you
come
up
with,
I
think
one
for
me,
one
of
the
advantages
of
the
assembly
and
where
perhaps
it
differentiates
itself
from
the
usual
democratic
process
of
elected
councillors,
making
decisions
on
recommendations
or
evidence
that
that
myself
and
and
my
officers,
my
staff
put
to
them
is
that
is
that
this
is
a
deep
dive
that
deeper
understanding
that
doesn't
have
the
the
added
complexity
of
party
politics,
because
sometimes
things
can
become
oppositional,
which
really
don't
need
to
be.
A
And
looking
at
some
of
the
some
of
the
rules
of
talking,
then
the
asking
the
open
questions,
the
staying
open
that
mel
put
up
earlier.
It
does
seem
to
me
that
there
is
an
addition
that
the
work
that
you're
doing
this
process
might
just
be
a
really
helpful
addition
to
a
whole
bunch
of
other
parts
of
the
democratic
decision
making.
A
I
I
think
the
work,
so
the
work
that
you
do
is
important
and
I
think
mel
put
a
slide
up
earlier
on
which
said
that
that
the
work
that
you
do
will
be
played
back
into
the
council.
It
absolutely
will
it'll
go
to
to
our
primary
policy
decision
making
bodies,
it'll
it'll
go
to
full
councils,
it
will
be
discussed.
It
will
be
looked
at
as
well
as
that
as
well
as
what
I
expect
is
a
report.
A
It's
going
to
be
used,
I
suspect,
in
a
number
of
ways,
so
a
bunch
of
my
staff
who
are
working
on
policies-
I
don't
know
around
housing
or
around
parks
and
what
you
do
will
be
able
to
draw
from
your
recommendations
and
your
thinking.
So
that's
not
at
the
sort
of
macro
level.
That's
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
What
happens
some
of
the
things
that
catherine
staff
do
working
in
communities?
That's
really
interesting.
A
How
could
we
start
to
bring
some
some
of
this
in
and
I
suppose
the
other
thing
I
would
say
is
whilst
these
recommendations
and
we're
talking
about
these
recommendations
coming
back
to
ada
and
worthing
councils,
there
are
a
whole
range
of
other
organizations
who
I
suspect,
your
work
is
enormously
valued
to
valuable
to
so.
Yes,
that
might
be
the
county
council
that
might
be
the
nhs
that
might
be
education
that
might
be
police.
A
A
So
your
work
has
impact,
and
I
suppose
the
thing
I
would
end
on
is
to
say
that
perhaps
it
isn't
that
often
in
life
that
that
the
work
that
we
do
is
is
important
not
just
for
the
now,
but
is
potentially
important
across
generations,
and
actually
the
work
that
I
think
the
recommendations
you
can
do
if
we
can
pick
them
up.
If
we
can
make
things
happen
with
them,
then
I
think
they
will
have
power
and
impact
because
generations.
A
B
Brilliant
thanks
alex
morning
everybody
yeah,
as,
as
I
said,
I'm
so
I'm
the
director
of
communities
here
at
asia
and
worthing
councils,
I'm
relatively
new,
I
joined
in
july,
and
but
I'm
I'm
sort
of,
I
actually
live
the
other
side
of
the
downs.
So
I've
lived
in
sussex
for
a
long
time
and
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
working
with
you.
B
What
I
wanted
to
do
was
to
firstly
give
you
a
sense
about
the
kind
of
things
which
you
were
within
my
directorate:
the
bits
of
the
bits
of
the
councils
that
I'm
responsible
for
so
you
kind
of
know
what
I
do
and
then
I
want
to
unpack
the
questions
a
little
bit
to
explain
our
thinking
behind.
Why
why
we've
posed
these
particular
these
particular
questions?
B
So
communities
is
made
up
of
environmental
services
of
parks.
Actually
a
bereavement,
the
crematorium
over
in
finland
that
we
run
is
part
of
our
service
as
well
responsible
for
housing
in
ada.
That
means
ada
homes
as
well
and
then
also
responsible
for
health
and
well-being.
B
So
that's
some
of
the
work
that
we
do
with,
find
it
and
find
it
out
local
or
some
of
the
work
we
do
with
use
or
some
of
the
work.
We
do
around
anti-social
and
pro-social
behavior,
I'm
also
responsible
for
the
democratic
services
team,
and
that
means
that
I
I'm
the
person
that
is
is
thinking
about.
How
do
we
do
participation,
and
so,
as
alex
says,
I
am
as
interested
in
the
process
that
you're
going
through
as
I
am
in
in
the
output.
B
To
be
honest,
because
I
also
believe
that
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
citizens
who've
taken
the
time
to
really
understand
a
topic
like
this
and
and
really
committed
to
it.
I
think
that
the
outputs
that
that
you'll
be
able
to
give
us
will
be
deep
and
rich
and
there'll,
be
something
that
we
can
really,
as
alex
said,
link
into
our
day-to-day
work,
but
also
help
us
shape
what
we're
doing
for
the
future.
So
I'm
really
tremendously
excited
to
hear
what
you
come
up
with.
B
I
too
share
a
bit
of
assembly
envy
because
I
think
you've
got
some
great
content
and
I
also
want
to
say
a
massive
thank
you
which
I
know
alex
said
as
well,
but
I
think
it's
amazing
what
you're
doing
I
mean
it's.
You
know
you,
you've
really
stood
up
for
your
community
and
and
you're
really
you're
really
committing
to
this.
So
thank
you.
B
So
much,
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
climate
change
because
you're
going
to
hear
loads
about
climate
change
and
I'm
not
an
expert,
but
I
wanted
to
pick
up
three
words
in
that
first
question:
just
to
sort
of
explain
a
little
bit
about
what
we
mean
by
what
we
meant
by
them,
because
I
think
they're
all
words
that
you're
probably
going
to
kick
around
a
bit
over
the
next
over
the
next
few
months.
So
the
first
one
is
thrive.
B
So
thrive
is
a
word
that
is
actually
very
much
embedded
into
our
strategy
into
our
platform's
strategy
and
for
us
there's
something
about
thriving
communities
which
are
communities
which
are
connected
to
each
other
and
and
and
to
us
engaged.
You
know
people
are
able
to
do
stuff
in
their
communities
and
that
they're
resilient,
so
that
you
know
sort
of,
I
think,
actually,
having
looked
at
the
work,
that
mutual
aid
groups
and
community
and
our
volunteers
have
done
over
covid.
B
B
I'd
add
another
thing
which
is
sustainable
and
for
me
for
us,
for
a
community
to
be
thriving,
it
has
to
be
sustainable
on
a
lot
of
different
levels.
You're
going
to
be
talking
a
lot
about
environmentally
sustainable,
but
people
also
need
to
be
thinking
about.
Are
they
economically
sustainable?
Are
they?
Is
it
socially
sustainable?
B
You
know.
Are
you
able
to
renew
the
connections
that
live
in
place?
Are
you
able
to?
Are
we
able
to
deliver
good
jobs
and
good
lives
in
those
places?
Are
we
able
to
shape
those
things,
so
the
word
thrive
is:
is
a
constant
trade-off
in
a
lot
of
ways
between
all
of
the
different
things
that
you
need
and
all
the
different
things
that
you
have
to
deliver?
What
you
need,
so
the
the
most
acute
one
for
me
would
be.
You
know,
sort
of
you
know
I
in
in
my
world.
I
wrestle
a
lot
with.
B
Do
we
have
enough
homes
because
we
don't
we
don't
have
enough
social
housing,
we
don't
have
enough
affordable
homes.
You
guys
will
know
this
better
than
I
do,
but
also
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
and
some
of
the
trade-offs
that
will
come
up.
I
think
over
the
climate
assembly
is
where,
where
do
we
build
homes?
Where
do
we
need
to
keep
green
space
to
rewild
or
to
you
know
just
to
give
people
access
to
that
outside?
B
How
do
we
manage
that
balance?
And
that's
a
really
a
live
question
for
me,
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
thrive
is
so
important,
because
thrive
to
me
is
about
the
balance
that
delivers
sustainable
communities.
The
next
word
was
local,
because
you
know
climate
change
is
a
huge
global
planetary
thing.
B
It's
it's
enormous,
but
I
believe
that
it's
important
that
we
need
to
also
look
at
the
things
that
we
can
actually
do
and-
and
the
word
local
for
me,
is
about
unpacking
some
of
those
huge
systemic
global
planetary
crises
and
questions
and
looking
at
through
the
lens
of
you
know
the
stuff.
That's
15
minutes
walk
from
your
house
because
I
think,
unless
we
look
at
it
through
that
lens,
I
think
it's
really
easy
to
become
overwhelmed
by
something
like
climate
change.
B
I
know
I
know
that
I
do
and
so
for
me
the
word
local
is
about
how
do
we
knit
it
practically
into
that
idea
of
communities
thriving,
but
also?
How
do
we
unpack
it
and
put
a
lens
on
it?
That
means
that
we
can
actually
address
it
and
digest
it
and
do
something
about
it,
because
otherwise
it
becomes
a
problem
we
admire
rather
than
when
we
engage
with,
and
the
next
word
was
collective
and
and
for
me,
there's
lots
of
reasons
why
the
word
collective
is
in
the
question.
B
It's
partly
because
I
think
that
we
can't
there's
there's
no
there's
no
there's
a
lot
of
individual
action
we
can
take,
but
unless
we
all
take
individual
actions,
we're
not
going
to
make
an
impact
on
this,
but
collective
as
well
is
about
working
in
partnership
with
the
council
with
other
organizations.
B
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
something
that
we're
working
collectively
together
and
that's
why
what
alex
was
saying?
Is
it's
really
important
that
that
we're
listening
and
then
we're
engaged
and
that
we're
able
to
shape
the
kind
of
we're
able
to
respond
to
the
recommendations
that
you're
giving
us?
B
I
I
just
want
to
talk
really
tiny,
really
quickly
about
the
covert
implications,
because
because
one
of
the
things
that
we've
noticed
over
the
last
over
the
last
few
months
is
that
people
can
and
will
change
their
behavior
massively,
you
know
sort
of
in
in
you
know
if,
in
the
right
circumstances
and
or
even
in
the
most
horribly
wrong
circumstances,
people
change
their
behavior.