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From YouTube: Judy Ling Wong, Social Inclusion I #AWClimateAssembly
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A
Hi
judy
thank
you
for
joining
us
here
today.
I
wonder
I
have
a
few
questions
for
you.
Could
you
maybe
explain
a
bit
about
who
you
are
my
name.
B
A
B
Inclusion
is
a
process,
it's
really
the
process
by
which
you
create
a
framework,
improving
the
opportunities
for
participation
by
everyone
in
society.
So
it
ranges
across
a
huge
number
of
groups.
Example,
you
know
at
the
moment,
because
there's
so
much
talk
about
black
lives
matter,
and
so
racism
is
one
thing
that
affects
it:
that
people
from
black
and
ethnic
minorities
might
not
engage
well
because
they're
excluded
because
of
discrimination,
but
there
are
all
kinds
of
exclusions
happening
in
society
all
the
time.
B
So,
for
example,
young
people
can
be
excluded
because
people
have
this
so
negative
image
of
young
people.
We
see
a
large
group
of
them
immediately.
Oh
my
god,
they're
really
dangerous,
or
something
like
that.
You
know,
and
young
people
are
really
hurt
by
that
or,
as
we
all
get
older
people,
think
we're
still
on
the
way
out
and
don't
include
us
now.
B
We
all
have
skills.
We
can
support
each
other
efficiently.
You
know,
and
we
can
also
have
lots
of
friends
and
not
be
lonely.
All
those
things
are
really
important
because
it
really
affects
health.
It
affects
how
we
get
information
to
participate
and
so
on,
and
at
the
moment
you
know
we're
talking
a
lot
about
new
green
jobs
and
so
on.
Again,
if
you
don't
have
the
information,
because
you're
not
linked
up
because
you're
excluded
you're
not
going
to
get
your
chair
of
the
cake
yeah.
A
B
Well,
climate
change,
as
you
know,
there's
things
that
need
to
be
done
at
different
levels:
the
things
that
even
local
councils
can't
do.
You
have
to
have
government
level
actually
doing
it.
Okay,
but
then
you
have
to
link
into
local
councils,
because
local
councils
there's
certain
things
that
links
in,
although
it
doesn't
have
the
powers
that
government
have
and
the
local
councils
have
powers
that
citizens
don't
have
and
all
those
levels,
but
at
each
of
those
levels
are
things
at
specific
levels
of
climate
change.
Action
has
to
happen
until
they're
linked
up.
B
You
can't
switch
them
all
on,
for
example,
at
the
moment,
there's
a
great
realization
of
the
power
of
the
individual
that
you
can
do
apparently
tiny
things
like
use.
Just
you
know
less
lighting
for
half
an
hour
or
switch
your
computer
off
when
you
are
not
using
amazon,
but
when
you
think
of
these
small
actions
multiplied
by
millions
every
day
around
the
year
and
so
on,
it
actually
has
an
impact.
B
So
these
are
the
messages
have
to
get
out
to
individuals,
and
so
you
can
see
that
climate
change
is
all
about
getting
all
the
different
levels
active
and
linked
up,
because
people
don't
have
expert
information,
so
you
rely
on
local
authorities
who
rely
on
academics
and
researchers
and
scientists
and
all
sorts
of
people.
It's
also
very
practical
as
well.
B
You
know
you
rely
on
the
fact
that,
because
we
got
so
used
to
in
modern
society
to
have
everything
really
clean
that
we
eat,
so
everything
that
we
buy
is
actually
wrapped
up,
yeah,
so
understanding
how
this
simple
thing
of
having
that
clean
food
having
wrapping
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
information
and
understanding
before
you
do
something
about
it.
So
when
you
know
about
this,
you
can
begin
to
ask
your
local
supermarkets
to
please
don't
use
plastic
packaging.
B
You
know
we
like
to
have
loose
fruit.
You
don't
even
need
to
package
it
in
anything
at
all,
for
example,
so
the
role
of
the
individual
is
important,
but
the
individual
needs
information.
So
there
we
go
again
working
across
all
the
different
levels,
the
people
of
expertise,
the
people
who
need
to
act
and
so
on.
So
linking
everything
up
means
that
inclusion
and
exclusion
are
great
themes
for
how
we
can
efficient
in
really
tackling
the
most
threatening
thing
we
have
in
our
lifetime.
A
I
haven't
asked
you
this
in
advance,
but
I'm
I'm
really
intrigued
about
what
you
found
worked
when
you
worked
for
ben
what
what
actions
may
have
been
really
helpful
in
including
people
in
this
case
ethnic
minorities,
in
climate
change?
What
worked
and
what
didn't.
B
Well,
what
works
is
is
the
most
important
to
say
really.
We
started
off
by
really
reading
the
whole
picture.
You
know
why
are
ethnic
minorities
excluded
and
where
they
are,
for
example,
they're,
mostly
urban,
so
the
urban
situation
and
the
history
of
how
they
arrived
is
very,
very
much
relevant.
For
example,
many
groups
arrive
and
the
first
thing
they
do
is
find
any
job
and
most
of
them
took
the
poorest
jobs.
B
You
go
home,
that
is
your
life
and
the
white
community
very
often
didn't
link
up
with
the
black
and
ethnic
minorities.
So
things
like
you
know:
where
can
you
go
to
relax
and
enjoy
yourself
in
nature
and
so
on?
Never
happened
so
people
actually,
even
when
they
began
to
rise
up
the
classes,
become
a
bit
more
middle
class
because
over
the
years,
things
change
and
so
on.
Even
then,
people
just
didn't
even
know
where
to
go.
So
when
you
asked
about
the
environment,
and
some
people
said
what
are
you
talking
about?
B
You
know
we're
urban
people
what
environment
and
what
do
you
want
us
to
do
anyway
and
so
on.
So
our
first
step
was
actually
to
link
people
up
with
nature,
and
people
were
astonished.
You
know
they
really
loved
it
when
we
linked
it
up
with
nature
because
they
found
it
so
beautiful.
They
also
felt
like
they
had
a
greater
sense
of
belonging,
because
suddenly
it's
not
just
being
in
the
city
and
all
the
bleak
places
they
live
in
and
so
the
image
of
this
country
entirely
changed.
B
All
these
places
are
beautiful,
there's,
nature
and
so
on,
and
so
the
process
of
participation
is
very
simple.
I
can
put
the
whole
process
into
two
phrases:
we
love
what
we
enjoy
and
we
protect
what
we
love
it's
a
human
process,
and
you
know
how
a
lot
of
people
complain
about
the
white
middle
class
that
they
do
all
the
environmental
things
they
run
their
shows
on
and
in
a
way.
I
thank
the
middle
classes
because
they
started
the
environmental
sector.
Without
them
we
wouldn't
have
an
environmental
movement
and
it's
only
the
70s.
B
It's
very
recent
you
know,
but
why
it
happened
to
them.
Is
this
process
it's
naturally
inside
their
lives.
They
grow
up
in
gardens.
During
the
weekend,
the
children
were
taken
out
into
the
countryside,
lovingly
held
by
the
hand,
walked
to
beautiful
places
and
so
on,
and
when
you
enjoy
your
beautiful
environment.
The
first
thing
that
happens
is
a
natural
human
thing.
We
love
it
and
when
you
love
it,
and
someone
comes
along
and
says,
hey
what
you
love
is
being
destroyed.
What
do
you
do
the
next
human
thing
you
fight
for
it?
B
You
want
to
protect
it
and
then
came
this
group
thing
of
wanting
to
do
something:
the
environmental
movement
with
the
middle
classes,
but
when
you
read
those
processes
of
contact
with
nature
enjoying
it
loving
it
protecting
it,
it's
a
human
process.
Anybody
would
do
it
if
they
had
that.
So,
when
you
start
off
by
allowing
people
to
be
into
contact,
get
them
to
beautiful
places
enjoy
guess
what
minorities
are
now
contributing
to
the
environmental
sector
like
everybody
else-
and
this
is
the
same
with
white
poor
communities
as
well.
B
You
know,
after
this
example
of
us,
highlighting
that
people
need
to
be
in
contact
and
so
on.
The
environmental
sector
actually
noticed,
hang
on
a
minute.
It's
not
just
black
and
ethnic
minorities,
it's
white,
poor
communities,
council
estates,
and
so
they
too
are
missing
out.
We
got
to
do
something
about
it,
so
we
actually
started
a
whole
wave
of
a
different
way
of
thinking
when
we
started
in
1987,
the
environmental
sector
was
very
pure
nature
conservation.
They
didn't
think
about
people
at
all.
B
When
we
came
along
and
talked
about
people
benefiting
and
all
this,
they
couldn't
understand
us,
because
also
they
were
all
interested
in
you
coming
to
do
something
for
nature.
You
know,
and
even
if
you
were
white,
they
were
not
interested
in
you.
If
you
were
not
going
to
do
something
for
nature,
but
they
said
then
began
to
get
the
idea
that
this
is
a
two-way
street.
B
Why
are
people
so
surprised?
I
tell
you
black
and
ethnic
minority
people
are
intrinsically
local
and
global
people.
Not
only
can
they
understand
climate
change
and
its
impact
in
this
country,
but
they
can
see
the
tremendous
impact
on
these
huge
countries
of
the
world.
Their
countries
of
heritage,
africa,
asians,
are
drastically
affected
vast
numbers
of
people
so
for
them
there's
a
double
reason
for
why
they
should
be
interested
in
climate
change.
B
A
So
much
just
one
final
question:
the
climate
assemblies
answering
how
we
might
collectively
tackle
climate
change
and
support
our
area
to
thrive.
What
questions
or
thoughts
could
they
bear
in
mind?
Maybe
in
addition
to
what
you've
said
that
you
think
will
be
helpful
to
answering
the
question
whilst
not
forgetting
social
inclusion.
B
You
know
this
is
the
biggest
thing
we
face,
as
I
said,
as
a
society,
so
we
must
act
as
a
society
together.
So
inclusion
is
a
principle.
You
know
we
mustn't
discriminate,
that's
a
principle,
but
the
whole
fact
is
that
two
things
I
mean
your
two
councils
are
very
keen
on
doing
two
things.
One
is
addressing
the
climate
change
elements
are
already
happening.
You
know
it's
not
in
the
future.
We
have
heat
waves,
we
have
flooding
and
all
those
things
are
already
affecting
people,
so
they
saying
we
need
to
build
recipients.
B
We
need
citizens
to
know
how
to
protect
themselves,
how
to
act
when
there
is
flooding
who
do
they
bring?
Who
they
ask
for
information?
What
can
they
do
is
their
help
if
your
home
is
flooded
and
so
on.
So
in
order
for
that
to
happen,
the
adaptation
and
resilient
side
of
it
is
communication
with
everyone.
B
B
You
know:
well,
you
know,
if
you're
an
ordinary
person
and
then
there
are
things
that
are
happening,
so
you
can
run
what
about
people
with
disabilities?
Where
do
they
get
the
help
to
get
out
of
the
area?
So
is
this
actually
set
up
for
them?
So
this
sort
of
thinking
about
people
having
frameworks
in
place
the
information
the
telephone
numbers
ring
the
local
groups.
They
should
be
in
contact
with
that
could
help
them
neighbors
that
can
help
them.
This
is
where
social
inclusion
is
all
about
human
relationship.
B
You
need
to
relate
to
your
next-door
neighbor
and
not
be
excluded,
because
of
who
you
are.
They
should
help
you,
so
this
is
one
side
of
it.
The
other
side
of
it,
of
course,
is
this
terrifying
thing
of
climate
change.
Again,
we
need
everybody
to
act
that
things
that
government
needs
to
do,
because
it
is
a
government
level
negotiating
not
just
with
inside
this
country,
but
with
the
un,
for
example,
you
know
with
climate
change.
B
What
have
we
got
in
the
front
of
our
minds
that
we
need
to
do
so
that
side
of
negotiating
and
putting
into
place
the
other
side
of
climate
change
is
about
emissions
or
which
sometimes,
you
know,
sounds
too
so
technical
for
ordinary
people.
So
we
need
to
need
to
speak
the
technical
language
to
the
technicians
and
the
scientists,
but
we
need
to
speak
the
ordinary
language
to
ordering
people.
B
So,
for
example,
we
talk
about
poor
people,
disadvantaged
people,
they're,
actually
quite
rich
people
too
among
us,
and
if
you
tell
them
about
all
sorts
of
things
like
renewable
energies,
insulation
in
their
home
system,
they
can
use
their
own
money
to
do
this,
so
they
can
help
us.
So
all
sorts
of
sections
of
society
have
different
tasks
according
to
who
they
are
some
need
to
benefit
more
others
need
to
do
more,
so
the
bringing
together
of
all
these
sections
of
society
as
an
act
of
inclusion.
B
It's
really
something
that's
going
to.
Let
us
succeed
in
doing
things
about
climate
change,
from
how
we
travel
every
day
to
how
we
buy
food,
what
we
do
with
all
the
wrappings,
how
we
campaign
for
things
that
we
think
we're
now
informed
about
and
should
be
happening,
and
some
local
councils
saying
you
know
government
is
not
doing
enough
well
when
you
campaign
at
the
national
level
you're
helping
your
local
council.