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A
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
joint
strategic
committee
I'll
start
with
the
health
and
safety
announcements.
There's
no
firearm
planned
during
this
meeting.
Therefore,
if
that
arm
sounds,
please
leave
by
the
nearest
exit
where
you
came
in,
and
the
door's
behind
here
do
not
stop
to
collect
your
belongings.
A
A
There's
refugees
through
this
door
here
there's
a
refuge
and
I
think
there
is
that
way
as
well
and
before
I
actually
go
into
the
meeting
proper,
I'm
allowing
councillor
borum
to
make
a
brief
announcement.
B
Yep,
thank
you
very
much
chairman.
The
fire
service
of
the
uk
have
had
a
long
history
of
donating
equipment
that
they
no
longer
use
to
to
less
fortunate
fire
services
around
the
world,
and
indeed
this
continues.
B
There
are
four
fire
engines
from
west
sussex
fire
going
to
of
all
places
the
ukraine
this
weekend
and
there
there's
a
whole
convict
of
equipment
from
about
five
or
six
other
fire
services
and
included
in
that
convoy
is
a
remarkable
firefighter
by
the
name
of
councillor
barracloff,
and
I
I
would
hope
that
all
of
you
would
join
me
in
wishing
him
and
his
colleagues
a
a
godspeed
and
a
safe
journey
back,
and
thank
him
for
the
for
the
invaluable
work
that
they're
doing
at
the
moment.
Chairman.
Thank
you.
A
Amazing
work
right
to
business,
any
declarations
of
interest
by
members
of
officers
council,
the
crouch.
C
A
Thank
you.
Do
we
approve
the
minutes
of
the
joint
committee
held
on
the
february
copies
previously
circulated.
A
You
very
much
I've
got
no
questions
for
members
of
the
public
in
advance.
A
E
A
Thank
you.
I've
no
items
to
rise
under
the
to
raise
under
the
urgency
provision
so
item
five
revenue
budget
monitoring
report
quarter.
Three,
mr
brewers,
gonna
pass
it
to
ms
scovie
who's
gonna
party
to
wet
piles
in
the
back
right
you're
on.
G
Apologies.
This
is
the
third
monitoring
report
that
comes
to
the
general
strategic
committee
and
gives
councillors
an
update
on
the
actual
incoming
expense
projections
compared
to
the
annual
budget.
The
current
position
are
we
projecting,
as
at
quarter?
Three
is
overspends
in
both
sorry.
Is
that.
H
G
I
G
Of
the
annual
monetary
reports
that
comes
to
joint
strategic
committee,
which
give
members
an
update
on
the
actual
incoming
expense
position
compared
to
the
year's
budget,
currently
the
projections
as
of
quarter
three
are
that
they'll
be
overspending,
both
authorities
in
ada
forty
seven
thousand
pounds
and
worthing
fourteen
thousand
pounds.
That
is
the
net
projection
after
government
funding.
G
G
There
is
an
improved
position
in
worthing
and
some
of
the
the
contributors
to
that
are
that
the
maintenance
expenditure
is
now
expected
to
be
underspent
in
worthing,
whereas
previously
we
thought
there
would
be
an
overspend
there's.
Also
some
costs
that
can
now
be
attributed
to
capital
projects,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
met
from
the
revenue
budget,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
just
quickly
mention
was
that
bereavement
services
is
still
showing
a
growing
deterioration
or
shortfall
in
the
income
which
has
been
reported
previously
to
the
to
the
the
committee.
G
A
K
Thank
you
chairman,
so
this
is
the
twin
to
the
revenue
monitoring
report
that
we've
just
looked
at
and
looks
at
the
progress
in
our
capital
programs
across
the
councils.
It's
important
to
note
that
all
of
the
programs
are
delivering
well
with
most
of
the
projects
either
progressing
well,
or
only
with
very,
very
minor
issues.
As
highlighted
within
the
report.
K
We
are
asking
you
to
do
a
number
of
requirements
tonight,
particularly
I
think,
in
relation
to
the
following
projects.
So,
firstly,
there's
been
an
upturn
in
the
amount
of
disabled
facilities.
This
is
funded
by
grant,
but
we
do
require
approval
to
adjust
the
budget
we
are
taking.
K
Do
some
disabled
adaptation
work
as
part
of
the
aw
workspaces
project
which
will
improve
the
access
accessibility
of
our
buildings
to
our
public
and
we're
funding
that
from
within
existing
budgets?
But
again
we're
asking
you
to
approve
environment
within
montague
street
we've
been
working
to
bring
those
empty
properties
back
into
use
and
have
refurbished
one
of
the
properties
and
have
permission
from
the
lep
to
use
funding
towards
that
refurbishment
and
again
we're
asking
you
to
approve
environment.
K
And
then
we
have
had
a
small
bug
cycle,
community
garden
grant
and
again
we're
just
asking
you
to
note
that
we've
adjusted
the
budgets
to
and
bring
that
into
our
state.
And
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
I
don't
ask
any
questions
that
members
may
have.
A
L
I
Thanks
jer,
is
it
this
microphone,
I'm
guessing
lovely
apologies.
I've
just
walked
in
so
if
you
covered
this
in
the
scope,
you
just
tell
me
and
that's
great
7.3,
on
capitol
programme.
It
says
due
to
effective
management
of
tefl
gate
and
there's
an
underspend
and-
and
I
know
that
it's
going
to
a
tenant
or
monthly
place
and
also
it
says,
for
something
to
do
with
the
railway
approach,
and
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
clarify
what
that
is
for
rail.
I
think
it's
railway
approach,
so
it's
called.
Thank
you.
M
So
through
you
chairman,
yes,
very
happy
to
pick
that
up,
that's
very
much
about
our
partnership,
working
with
west
sussex
county
council
on
the
railway
approach,
public
realm
project.
So
again
it's
important
that
we,
you
know,
account
and
have
a
very
clear
audit
trail
for
where
these
monies
are
spent
and
we
have
the
portland
road
scheme
and
now
the
railway
approach
scheme,
which
obviously
is
directly
attached
to
the
wider
tefl
project
as
council
cooper
indicates.
N
Thank
you
just
on
4-1-2,
you
note
that
the
project
to
undertake
external
works
in
bushby
close
has
been
delayed
by
variations
to
the
contract,
and
this
has
extended
the
completion
date
to
you
this
month.
Can
I
just
ask
what
the
variations
were
and
following
complaints
from
one
of
the
residents,
we
were
made
aware
of
significant
poor
quality
work
being
undertaken,
which
was
reported,
and
I've
not
had
an
update
as
to
whether
that
was
addressed.
Thank
you.
A
The
joint
committee
is
asked
with
respect
to
the
capital
investment
program,
foreign
district
council,
to
note
the
reprofiling
of
a
district
council's
capital
schemes
advised,
as
in
paragraph
7.2.1
and
appendix
3,
and
to
approve
the
funding
of
the
overspending
occurring
in
replacement
of
the
hr
payroll
system.
As
detailed
in
paragraph
7.11.
A
A
Adaptations
budget
to
adrian
worthing
workspace
project
as
detailed
in
paragraph
7.3.4,
and
to
note
the
receipt
of
the
pocket
parks
grant
fund
between
4030
pounds
to
the
support
community,
provide
a
new
renovate
parks
and
approve
the
use
of
an
integrated
community
garden
in
beach
house
park.
As
detailed
in
7.3.5.
A
Right,
luckily,
I'm
only
far
off
the
meeting
in
it
get
worn
out
right.
Seven
renew
of
the
adrian
worthing
well-being,
miss
february.
O
O
This
program
was
set
up
back
in
2011
and
recently
the
overall
program
in
west
six
has
just
celebrated
its
10th
birthday,
which
I
think
is
a
great
achievement.
O
I
really
want
to
kind
of
play,
pay
homage
to
the
team
and
especially
to
janice
hoyles,
who
can't
be
here
tonight,
but
it's
her
great
leadership
of
this
work
over
the
last
10
years
that
I
just
really
want
to
thank
and,
of
course,
all
of
the
team
we've
got.
Some
really
great
members
of
the
team
and
the
well-being
advisors
who
really
demonstrate
what
a
really
good
person-centered
approach
can
be
they're,
really
passionate
about
this
work,
and
it's
a
really
strong
team.
O
They've
developed,
really
strong
relationships
with
the
nhs
voluntary
sector
and
lots
of
our
community
partners
in
in
lots
of
our
local
places.
And,
of
course
this
is
a
key
program
that
supports
the
work
of
our
health
and
well-being
strategy
and
it's
a
fundamental
part
of
our
proactive
work,
which
this
committee
has
heard
lots
about.
O
O
Of
course,
cove
has
impacted
this
work
greatly,
as
it
has
a
lot
of
our
service
services
and
the
well-being
advisors
played
a
really
critical
role
in
our
in
our
pandemic
response.
That
obviously,
has
had
an
impact
on
the
numbers
for
this
programme,
and
I
think
the
last
time
we
had
what
was
ever
kind
of
a
normal
period
before
pandemic
was
about
1200
people
per
year,
and
obviously,
we've
got
to
try
and
build
those
numbers
back
up.
O
We
are
reaching
about
50
of
the
people
that
we're
reaching
are
from
neighborhoods
in
our
deprived
areas,
but
we
really
want
to
double
down
on
that
over
the
next
period,
especially
to
work
really
hard
on
how
we
can
further
reduce
health
inequalities,
but
also
to
really
focus
in
on
some
of
the
key
groups
that
we
know
are
really
important.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
younger
adults.
O
O
We
also
work
very
closely
with
a
lot
of
the
assets
within
our
communities,
especially
those
that
have
great
credibility
with
groups
such
as
dadla
soul,
that
works
with
men.
We
also
want
to
work
very
close
much
more
closely,
I
think,
with
our
elected
members,
to
see
how
we
can
further
reach
into
our
communities
as
we
work
forward.
O
We
have
reviewed
the
communications
approach
so
set
out
in
the
report
is
a
bit
of
information
around
that
very
much
thinking
about
how
we
can
really
enhance
our
behavior
change
work
over
the
next
period.
I'm
very
pleased
to
say
that
this
is
the
first
time
we're
entering
into
a
five-year
agreement
with
with
west
sussex
public
health.
Prior
to
that
it's
been
three
year
agreements,
and
this
is
a
real
kind
of
testament
to
the
work.
O
The
report
provides
a
business
plan
that
we've
produced,
and
this
is
something
that
we
review
annually
with
public
health
and
obviously
it's
something.
We
look
at
the
data
to
ensure
we
have
a
data,
informed
approach,
the
business
plan
and
our
focus
for
the
next
period
will
largely
remain
the
same
for
the
next
year,
but
we
are
going
to
focus
more
on
certain
areas,
as
already
I've
mentioned
some
of
the
communities
that
we
really
want
to
focus
in
on.
O
O
So
I'm
very,
as
I
say,
I'm
very
pleased
to
present
the
report.
It's
a
real
testament
to
the
work
that's
been
done
by
the
team,
so
members
are
asked
to
consider
and
approve
the
recommendations
and
I'm
hopefully
can
answer
any
questions.
If
I
don't
know
the
answers
to
any,
I
will
I
will
provide
that
afterwards.
As
I
say,
janice
hoyles
hasn't
been
able
to
join
me
tonight,
but
thank
you
very
much.
J
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
to
make
some
comments.
If
I
may
chairman,
this
is
the
first
huge
piece
of
work.
I've
worked
very
closely
with
the
officers
of
ada
adam
worthy,
and
I
really
got
to
know
them
and,
and
I
have
to
say
their
professionalism
and
their
keenness
in
delivering
these
sort
of
services
is
absolutely
brilliant,
so
I've
thoroughly
enjoyed
working
with
them,
not
necessarily
going
through
josh
at
quarter
to
11
or
what
time
we
were.
B
B
I
really
do
like
the
the
well-being
advisors
being
geographically
based
getting
to
know
the
communities
and
their
particular
issues
and
that
they're
facing
so
that
we
can
really
laser
into
those
often
hard-to-reach
groups,
because
we've
got
a
better
contact
and
a
better
understanding
of
them
and
clearly
they're
leveling
up
in
respect
of
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
on
the
deprived
part
of
our
communities
and
communities
that
have
been
really
hit
by
it.
So
fantastic,
it's
really
important
in
this
work.
Well-Being
is,
is
just
not
about
health.
B
It's
a
whole
myriad
of
things
from
debt
collection
to
weight
to
all
sorts
of
issues,
housing.
What
have
you-
and
I
really
do-
welcome
the
approach
that
we're
taking
in
working
with
lots
of
other
stakeholders
in
this
area,
so
we
can
put
a
wrap-around
package
to
help
these
people
it's
hard
to
have
a
one
thing.
B
It's
three
or
four
things,
and
it's
often
spread
all
over
the
place
so
that
for
us
to
be
an
open
door
on
this
one
and
arrange
all
of
that
to
help
our
community
is,
I
think,
fantastic
and
the
range
of
services
that
we
provide
ourselves
from
physical
activity.
Managing
a
healthy
weight,
smoking,
cessation,
alcohol
prevention
and
pre-diabetes-
all
these
things,
I
think,
add
up
into
a
great,
rounded
a
service,
and,
of
course,
one
of
the
difficulties
with
prevention
is
that
it's
very
difficult
to
to
to
measure
the
impact
of
this.
B
It's
very
easy
for
the
nhs
to
say:
look
I've
cured
somebody
with
cancer
or
some
other
disease.
Give
me
the
money
to
do
some
more.
It's
far
more
difficult
to
to
measure
the
impact
of
this
work
on
our
community,
so
I
would
say:
wouldn't
I,
but
I
really
do
welcome
this
data-led
approach,
which
then
helps
us
go
into
a
lobby
and
show
that
we
can
make
a
difference
to
people
and
we
should
be
growing
as
part
of
our
service,
so
fantastic.
Thank
you
very
much.
P
Thank
you
chairman,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
remember
when
this
program
started
back
in
2011
and
it
was
an
immediate
success
and
I
think
it's
sad
that
inequalities
have
worsened
rather
than
improved
and
that
we
still
need
this
program
going
forward.
However,
I
know
that
it's
something
we
do
really
well
and
certainly
support
the
continued
excellent
work
that
your
team
do.
Q
Apologies
to
councillor
wait.
I
really
did
think
you
pointed
at
me.
Sorry,
I
didn't
want
to
repeat
everything.
Kevin
had
said
cancer
bournemouth
said,
but
I'm
really
excited
by
this,
because
I
think
everybody
knows
my
position
on
prevention
rather
than
cure,
and
I've
had
this
a
lot
with
everybody
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
particularly
despise
is
smoking,
and
I've
got
very
good
reasons
for
that.
Q
So
if
you
read
through
this-
and
it
shows
you
that
people
can
refer
themselves
or
other
people
in
relation
to
smoking
and
and
just
bizarrely
last
week,
I
was
speaking
to
a
lady
who
had
asked
me
for
assistance,
and
I
was
able
to
refer
her
to
this,
because
I
knew
all
about
it.
It's
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
get
out
to
everybody,
exactly
what
we're
doing.
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
piece
of
work
cancer
born.
A
Okay,
we'll
move
to
the
recommendations
then
2.1
to
approve
the
the
respective
councils
continue
to
work
in
partnership
with
west
assets,
county
council
to
deliver
the
well-being
programs
in
ada
and
in
worthing
from
the
first
of
april,
2022
to
the
31st
of
march
2027,
subject
to
funding
being
agreed
on
an
annual
basis
that
agreed
thank
you
delegate
authority
to
enter
into
the
aid
of
partnership
agreement
and
the
worthing
partnership
agreement
with
west
security
council
has
set
out
in
paragraph
4.3
to
the
director
of
communities
in
consultation
with
executive
members,
health
and
wellbeing
and
subject
to
an
annual
business
plans
agreed.
A
Thank
you
agree
to
receive
the
annual
funding
advocated
from
west
sussex
county
council
for
the
next
five
years
of
the
partnership
agreement
and
to
recommend
to
the
council
as
they
amend
the
revenue
budget.
Accordingly,
the
indicative
amount
for
23
24
being
513
000
pounds,
not
513
973
pounds
and
agree
for
an
in-kind
contribution
by
the
councils
as
detailed
in
6.3
of
the
pool
to
continue
is
that
agreed?
R
Good
evening,
chair
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
so
this
evening,
I'd
like
to
present
the
report
for
pathways
to
affordable
homes
and
delivery
plans.
This
report
follows
on
from
the
previous
strategy
that
was
put
forward
to
members
and
agreed
last
year
that
pathways
to
affordable
home
strategy
was
about
delivering
more
affordable
homes,
both
in
ada
and
worthing,
and
put
forward
an
ambitious
target
of
delivering
1400
homes
by
2025,
250
of
which
would
be
directly
delivered
by
either
aid
or
worthing
councils
together.
R
So
the
report
before
you
is
the
logical
next
step,
which
is
the
delivery
plans
which
provide
the
detail
behind
that
ambitious
strategy.
I'd
like
to
just
draw
members
attention
to
a
couple
of
points
within
the
in
the
paper,
so
in
item
4.2
the
issues
for
consideration.
R
The
way
we're
looking
to
set
up
the
delivery
is
by
splitting
it
into
a
number
of
suggested
programs.
What
this
will
provide
is
better
management
and
oversight
of
the
delivery
of
affordable
homes
across
across
the
sectors.
That's
looking
at
general
needs
shared
ownership,
older
person's
housing,
temporary
and
supported
housing
and
the
aid
homes
housing
renewal
programme
within
those
five
programs,
the
fir
the
top
four
are
predominantly
about
delivery
of
those
new
homes,
but
we
also
put
in
the
housing
innovation
program,
which
we
think
is
a
really
important
part
of
this.
R
It's
in
acknowledgment
of
the
fact
that
actually,
in
the
housing
sphere,
there's
lots
of
change
happening
at
the
moment.
Sustainability
is
at
the
forefront.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
new
homes
are
as
sustainable
as
possible.
There's
also
lots
of
regulatory
changes,
so
fire
safety
being
a
key
one.
So
the
housing
innovation
project
program
is
there
to
essentially
pick
up
those
items,
but
also
to
try
and
pick
up
the
the
extra
pluses
that
we
think
that
we
could
get
for
the
council
in
terms
of
job
creation
and
economy.
R
R
In
terms
of
these
color-coded
ticks,
which
essentially
provide
an
idea
of
when
we
hope
to
have
each
of
those
work
streams
completed
to
the
rear
of
the
delivery
plans,
we
also
have
the
opportunity
sites
for
both
in
ada
and
in
worthing,
and
this
is
really
tracking
against
the
1400
delivery
target,
where
we
are
expecting
to
work
with
partners
and
other
delivery
members
within
the
community
and
we're
and
on
sites
that
we're
looking
to
self-deliver
ourselves
and
members
will
note
that
we're
currently
on
target
to
meet
to
meet
those
those
figures.
F
Only
a
point
that,
if
the
if
the
ticks
are
color-coded,
if
we
have
our
printing
in
black
and
white,
it's
a
bit
tricky
to
understand.
D
D
So
looking
at
those
figures
from
your
point
of
view,
obviously,
there's
lots
of
opportunity
sites
that
will
always
come
along
a
small
development
site,
a
brownfield
site
in
a
in
a
more
backstreet
area,
but
just
looking
at
the
numbers
that
you've
given
us
to
us
here.
How
realistic
is
that
in
expectations
and
as
a
starting
point.
R
A
Unfortunately,
it
doesn't
always
work
like
that.
Council
aubry.
L
L
We
started
off
with
the
building
across
the
road.
Cecil
norris
albion
street
is
well
underway.
Now
ashcroft
is
well
underway.
Now
the
garage
sites
are
well
underway
now,
and
these
are
all
providing
homes
for
the
people
of
ada
and
to
reduce
the
waiting
list
on
for
for
people
who
need
decent
homes,
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
officers
very
much,
because
this
seems
to
be
snowballing
now
and
getting
more
quick
or
quicker
as
time
goes
on.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
chair,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
housing
team
as
well.
You've
got
a
lot
of
measurement
in
here.
You've
got
a
lot
of
targets.
You
know
where
you're
going
and
I
think
we
haven't
had
this
sort
of
paper.
It's
been
missing
and
so
I'm
delighted
to
see
it
there.
I'm
delighted
to
know
that
the
housing
department
is
moving
forward,
all
the
time
and
so
seeking
resolutions
and
innovative
ideas,
and
it's
that
innovative
idea
that
really
excites
me.
So
thank
you.
D
Yep
cancer
jenkins
yeah.
Thank
you
just
wanted
to
go
to
the.
Unfortunately,
the
pages
aren't
numbered
in
any
of
these
here,
so
we
haven't
got
a
sequence
in
the
pages,
but
just
some
of
the
comments
you
put
in
there
is
that
clearly,
worthingborough
council
is
not
a
traditional
council,
housing
stockholder,
so
looking
at
that
and
the
balance
between
affordability
or
affordable
homes,
just
from
up
from
my
perspective,
what
is
more
advantageous
to
us
at
this
moment
delivery
of
affordable
homes
with
a
partner
or
going
back
to
traditional
housing
stock?
R
Well,
I
don't
have
an
answer
in
terms
of
full
quantum,
but
there
would
definitely
be
a
tipping
point
and
it
wouldn't
be
a
handful
of
homes.
It
would
have
to
be
quite
a
significant
amount
to
make
it
viable
and
we're
seeing
in
ada.
For
example,
you
know
the
hra
does
get
put
under
stress
in
terms
of
there's
a
certain
amount
of
quantum
of
homes.
You
need
before
all
of
the
management
and
oversight
that
goes
with
it.
It
would
work.
A
The
officer
team
for
all
they've
done
as
well
as
it's
been
said,
it's
the
thing's
snowballing,
but
I
think
the
reality
is.
We've
now
got
people
in
place
and
that
know
what
they're
doing
and
others
are
learning.
You
know
we
started
off
this
process,
we're
no,
no,
we
hadn't
built
any
council
outside
for
so
long.
We
didn't
have
the
in-house
skills
and
where
we
didn't
have
the
in-house
skills
we
brought
them
in
mr
locke
and
and
the
thing
that
things
are
going
now.
A
B
Very
much
chairman,
I,
I
know
janada
alone,
that
we
are
we're
planning
to
deliver.
2198
really
needed
homes
of
all
different
descriptions.
This
is
this
is
really
us
delivering
the
local
plan
and,
in
some
instances,
actually
exceeding
what
is
in
the
plan
in
certain
areas.
B
So
I
would
certainly
welcome
and
look
forward
to
revising
the
idea,
local
plan
to
to
to
take
into
account
what
we
are
delivering
and
what
we
can
deliver
and
just,
as
importantly,
revising
the
infrastructure
development
plan
and
the
growth
deal
with
west
sussex
to
to
match
the
work
that
we
are
doing
in
the
district
chairman.
Thank
you.
A
Yes,
second
councilwoman,
hopefully
at
some
stage
that
people
have
realized
that
we're
actually
building
homes
for
local
people,
not
for
rich
people
coming
down
from
london
and
things
like
the
rumors
go
around
at
the
moment.
But
that's
nothing
not
there
right
can
I
just
check
with
the
officers,
because
the
recommendations,
don't
totally
you've,
got
to
consider
the
delivery,
worthing
public
council
to
consider
the
dupa
and
recommend
adoption?
A
A
Yep
right
two
point:
one
for
worthing
power
council
to
consider
the
do
we
found,
which
we've
done
and
recommended
option
of
the
housing
strategy
to
worthingborough
council,
presumably
as
its
next
meeting
that
agreed
thank
you
and
friday
council
to
consider
the
replay
which
we
have
a
recommended
option
as
part
of
that
housing
strategy
at
our
next
meeting,
and
then
the
next
bit
is
to
recommend
to
use
the
wrong
wording
account
so
that
you
plan
set
out
and
finish
through
you'll,
agree
to
win
right.
Okay.
Yes,
I
guess
strain
recommendations.
D
D
T
Chairman,
thank
you.
It's
a
brief
paper,
so
my
introduction
will
also
be
brief.
So
we
considered
a
report
on
the
union
play
site
on
the
8th
of
february,
and
I
was
asked
that
that
to
bring
forward
a
report
to
at
the
next
meeting,
which
is
the
first
of
march
and
that
subsequently
has
been
bounced
back
to
today.
So
in
the
intervening
period
I
essentially
have
set
out
and
doing
the
various
work
streams
that
we'd
set
out
in
that
initial
report.
T
So
the
key
lines
of
negotiation
and
issues
to
resolve
have
been
around
getting
legal
advice,
making
sure
that
the
proposed
structure
was
compliant
and
that
we
were
acting
in
an
appropriate
manner
in
terms
of
procurement.
We
commence
to
work
on
the
lcr
arrangements
and
unwinding
that
and
doing
it
in
an
appropriate
and
fair
manner
for
both
parties.
T
We
commence
doing
some
detailed
work
on
the
financial
structure,
understanding
the
costs
and
implications
and
risk
of
entering
into
the
agreement,
understanding
the
stamp
duty,
land
tax
agreements
and
especially
understanding
the
implications
of
the
arrangements
at
ncp
on
that
what's
not
covered
in
the
report
is
a
very
positive
meeting
with
them.
On
monday,
while
it's
a
long
way
from
agreement,
I
feel
that
there
is
a
structure
or
an
approach
that
can
be
done
with
ncp.
That
will
give
us
control
of
the
land
in
the
long
term.
T
I'm
really
pleased
that
this
has
come
about
because
it
it's
a
really
crucial
part
of
the
of
the
proposal.
The
final
part
was
a
a
number
of
issues
were
raised.
Following
the
press
release
and
following
the
discussion
of
the
last
report
about
our
relationship
with
worthington,
theaters
and
museums,
there
was
some
suggestion
that
would
be
a
third
or
new
cinema
coming
into
the
town.
We
had
a
really
constructive
discussion
with
welding,
theaters
and
museums
fall
into
it.
T
We've
clarified
the
proposal
is
for
an
extension
to
the
existing
cinema
and
that
we
would
be
supporting
in
that
way.
They've
received
this
very,
very
it's
been
received
very
well
by
them
and
are
very
committed
to
the
scheme.
That's
the
substance
of
the
update
and
recommendations
are
set
out
in
part
two.
Thank
you.
P
Not
a
question
just
a
comment
really
thank
you
for
the
report
and
the
update
kian,
it's
good
to
know
that
negotiations
are
progressing
well,
and
I
was
particularly
pleased
to
know
that
the
theatre's
trust
do
support
the
extension
of
the
cinema,
which
will
provide
a
good
boost
to
our
local
economy,
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
not
a
question
just
a
comment.
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
scheme
and
I
think
I'm
really
interested
to
see
its
progression.
I
think
it's
reassuring
that
conversations
with
ncp
have
been
have
been
positive
and
similarly,
echo
counts.
The
weights
comments
around
around
the
the
theater's
trust
I
think
to
be
able
to
enhance
our
offer
there
is
is,
is
really
great
and
I
look
forward
to
this
scheme
coming
forward
in
further
detail
over
the
coming
months.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
cronin,
to
report,
and
indeed
I
can
only
echo
my
colleagues
comments
that
they've
made
and
it's
pleasing
to
hear
that
the
clarification
has
been
sought
over
the
cinema
and
that
worthy
theaters
and
museum
are
keen
to
be
that
partners
to
it
and
again,
this
very
much
links
into
the
report
that
we've
received
from
mr
from
mr
lock
in
in
relation
to
the
houses,
the
affordable
homes
and
indeed,
the
strength
of
partnership
that
we've
established
over
the
years
with
the
coaster,
capital,
lap,
lep
and
the
money
that
they
put
into
that
site
collegiate.
D
You
know
that
came
with
the
various
covenants
and
restrictions
that
came
around
it
and
the
development
for
that
site.
So,
hopefully
we're
able
to
progress.
Raffy
homes
deal
in
the
way
that
you're
suggesting
here
now,
which
will
take
us
forward
and
that
we
can
see
much
needed
new
homes
and
new
connectivity
within
the
town
centre
delivered
in
the
area.
So
thank
you
for
the
update
on
that.
D
D
M
Thank
you,
chen
scrolling
is
going
to
present
the
body
of
the
report,
but
in
terms
of
our
double
act
for
you
this
evening,
I
thought
it
was
appropriate
to
offer
a
moment
of
reflection.
I
suppose,
because
in
part
as
you
can
see
from
the
report,
we're
setting
out
a
formative
relationship
with
the
housing
housing
association
with
a
registered
provider-
and,
of
course
you
know,
those
of
you
who've
served
on
the
committee
for
some
time
will
know
that
we've
been
here
before
with
a
registered
provider.
M
Previously
we
were
working
with
the
housing
association
who
would
have
purchased
the
tevlgate
site
and
the
role
of
the
council
as
enabler
on
that
occasion
would
have
been
to
underwrite
the
provision
of
up
to
100
or
so
homes
for
market
sale.
So,
in
terms
of
putting
together,
you
know
a
viable
scheme
which
is
always
the
challenge
with
strategically
important
sites.
That
was
the
role
of
the
council
in
that
formative
arrangement,
which
of
course,
didn't
come
to
fruition.
M
M
The
borough
council
now
owns
the
site,
and
it
is
that
which
has
spurred
hyde
homes,
group
hired
houses
group
to
come
along
and
offer
to
work
at
pace,
and
the
formative
arrangement
has
already
accelerated
past
the
point
that
we
got
to
with
the
previous
register
provider
and
now,
of
course,
we're
looking
at
a
scheme
which
offers
100,
affordable
homes
with
40
of
those
being
socially
social
rented.
So
it's
an
important
reflection.
M
You
know
to
to
really
sort
of
kick
off
the
report
and
I'll
hand
over
chairman,
with
your
permission
to
mr
cronin,
to
present
the
body
of
the
report.
Thank
you,
mr
and
mr
cronin.
T
Thank
you
chairman.
Thank
you.
Martin
yeah
really
pleased
to
have
this
before
you.
When
we
sat
down
in
december,
the
committee
considered
and
agreed
what
was
called
a
development
strategy
for
the
site,
there's
three
key
planks
to
that
development
strategy.
The
first
one
was
around
maximizing
the
number
of
homes
and
especially
affordable
homes.
The
second
was
workstream
is
focused
on
approach
to
attract
government
funding
and
support
to
aid
viability,
and
the
third
thing
was
around
design
review
and
phasing
to
ensure
actual
deliverability
of
the
site.
T
On
the
back
of
that
report,
we
were
approached
by
hyde
housing
group
who'd,
seen
this
and
said
we're
interested
in
working
with
the
council
on
a
number
of
work
extremes,
including
a
regeneration
and
development
work
stream.
They
identified
a
number
of
partnership
areas
that
we
could
work
on,
including
community
and
tenancy
support,
including
climate
change
and
development
and
regeneration.
T
Section
four
outlines
the
proposal
in
detail:
it
sets
out
what
the
main
proposal
is
around
the
number
of
homes,
the
number
of
blocks
the
heights,
the
stories,
the
proposal
for
a
commercial
element-
it's
referred
to
in
the
slide
deck
at
the
back-
is
an
aldi.
This
could,
of
course,
be
an
aldi
a
little
or
other
similar
size
provider.
T
It
also
sets
out
requirements
around
commercial
and
community
space,
car
parking
and
various
other
bits
and
pieces.
It's
at
a
very
early
nascent
stage,
there's
no
detailed
architectural
design
zone.
It's
very
much
early.
We
wanted
to
because
this
has
come
forward
in
a
perhaps
more
quick
manner
than
we'd
anticipated
to
land
the
principles
of
what
we're
doing
here,
ensure
that
we're
not
going
off
on
the
wrong
track
to
to
do
that
and
to
help
the
kind
of
consideration
of
the
committee.
T
What
we
tried
to
do
at
section
5
was
to
assess
the
proposal
from
a
height
housing
group
against
each
of
the
work
streams.
If
the
development
strategy
sets
our
objectives,
then
that's
how
we
mark
our
homework
essentially
and
section
5
sets
out
how
we
think
the
proposal
matches
those
work
streams
and
concludes
that
we
think
this
is
an
appropriate
way
forward,
because
it
is
in
fact
delivering
more
homes
and,
as
I
said,
especially
affordable
homes,
it
seems
to
have
a
viable
proposal.
T
Having
considered
this
that
the
recommendation
is
that
we
proceed
with
it.
Nonetheless,
we
have
considered
some
alternative
options,
but
these
have
been
discounted
because
they
felt
that
the
proposal
from
hyde
housing
group
presented
such
a
strong
case.
I'm
very
pleased
to
present
a
report
before
you
there's
some
recommendations
in
section
two
and
as
ever,
I'm
very
pleased
to
answer
any
questions
or
queries
that
you
might
have.
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
a
couple
of
queries.
If
that's
all
right,
thank
you,
mr
cranium,
for
the
report.
The
meanwhile
use
agenda
that
we've
heard
so
much
about.
Can
you
explain
how
that
fits
in
with
this?
This
plan.
D
I
Good
to
know
mr
chair
and
the
second
question
is
about
this
plan
and
how
it
marries,
with
the
intended
spending
on
a
footpath
that
I
think
was
heard
so
how
that
sort
of
relates
to
that.
So
the
chair
may
or
may
not
allow
that.
Thank
you.
D
I
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
took
this
as
a
strategic
plan
for
tevillegate
and
I
think
that
the
meanwhile
use
and
the
footpath
discussions
that
have
come
up
before
are
engendered
within
that
strategic
approach,
but
obviously
defer
to
you.
Mr
chair.
P
Thank
you
chairman.
Finally,
we
have
a
scheme
that
can
be
delivered
on
this
site.
It's
achievable
because
we
purchased
the
land
and
giving
us
100,
affordable
housing.
On
one
side
I
think,
is
probably
quite
rare-
I
don't
know,
but
I
would
imagine
it
is
quite
rare,
40
social
rent
and
60
shared
ownership
on
one
site.
P
There
is
a
question
that
that
raise
is
raised
there.
That,
however,
sorry
I
beg
your
pardon,
I
wonder
if
you
could
explain
who
will
have
the
nomination
rights
to
the
social
rent.
I
would
hope
that
part
of
the
negotiations
with
hyde
would
be
around
housing
as
a
priority
residents
from
worthing.
The
allocation
of
these
homes
should
be
offered
to
local
people
on
the
local
housing
list.
T
Thank
you
cancer.
Yet
this
is
a
really
important
kind
of
line
of
negotiation.
For
us
to
have,
and
it's
it's
quite
well.
I
I
find
it
quite
valuable
that
you've
raised
it
in
this
forum,
so
when
this
has
happened
under
normal
agreement,
we'd
be
entitled
to
just
have
nominations
on
what's
contained
in
the
section
106
agreement.
So
with
the
current
local
plan
coming
through
assuming
it's
brought
forward
after
its
adoption,
we
would
be
entitled
to
nominations
in
any
rented
on
the
20
that
would
be
in
the
section
106
agreement.
T
What
we've
discussed
with
hyde
housing
group
is
an
overall
lettings
agreement
on
the
whole
site,
firstly
to
encourage
more
local
lettings
and,
secondly,
to
help
address
their
own
housing
list
and
ensure
that
it's
the
right
kind
of
people
from
the
town,
those
most
in
need,
are
being
afforded
in
this
house.
So
a
key
part
of
the
negotiation
would
be
this
lettings
agreement
that
would
set
out
the
overall
approach,
while
I
can't
say
it'll,
be
100
of
all
of
the
rented
there's.
T
Definitely
an
avenue
there
for
us
to
agree
and
negotiate
that
if,
if
you're,
willing
cancer
I'll
I'll
I'll
take
that
forward
and
with
height
housing
group
having
raised
it
here,
I
can
definitely
point
back
and
say
this
is
a
significant
issue
for
the
council
and
bring
it
up
as
a
key
issue.
That
will
be,
I
suppose,
significant
to
our
final
consideration
of
the
any
deal
that
comes
forward.
D
P
J
I
don't
wish
to
be
a
party
pooper,
but
there
are
two
very
significant
worthing
homes,
buildings
on
the
other
two
corners,
and
there
were
some
problems
that
worthing
homes
had
when
they
moved
residents
in
because
of
the
density
of
residents.
Has
that
been
addressed
at
all.
T
I'm
not
sure
it's
been
addressed,
ensuring
the
right,
tenant
mix
and
management
of
the
property
is
really
really
crucial.
I
think
the
report
outlines
how
to
manage
68
000
homes
across
the
country.
They
really
focus
on
good
tenant
relationships,
good
neighborhoods,
good
communities
in
their
in
their
homes
and
ensuring
that
tendencies
are
sustained.
A
tenant
that
is
meeting
its
obligations.
Meeting
its
rent
payments
in
a
secure
work
environment
generally
makes
for
a
happy
community
happy
homes.
So
I
I
suppose
it's
a
key
consideration.
T
It's
something
we
can
work
on,
but
we're
working
with
a
partner
who
have
significant
national
experience
of
this
and
have
significant
resources
to
put
into
something.
Should
an
issue
arise
at
some
stage
in
the
future?
Well,
I
can
say
that
something
will
never
come
up.
New
developments
are
complex
and
you
have
a
lot
of
people
moving
into
an
area
at
one
time.
T
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
we'll
be
working
with
a
very
good
provider,
a
really
experienced
provider
who
would
have
been
able
to
draw
on
examples
from
elsewhere
to
ensure
that
the
issues
are
put
to
bed
are
resolved
and
the
community
is,
you
know,
working
as
best
as
possible
in
in
as
quick
a
manner
as
possible.
C
Yeah
thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
the
officers
for
the
report.
I
do
have
a
question.
We're
gonna,
preface
it
with
just
a
few
comments.
If
I
may,
I
think
this
is
really
to
be
welcomed.
This
isn't
a
threat
that
I'm
going
to
do
it,
but
I
think
one
day
someone
will
write
a
a
book
about
the
history
of
this
site.
C
It
will
sell
no
copies,
but
it
will
be
rather
interesting
to
shadows
like
us
who
sort
of
been
involved
along
the
way.
I
think
where
we're
getting
to
now
really
shows
the
the
the
value
of
of
us
as
a
local
authority
in
terms
of
being
able
to
use
our
connections,
our
clout
and
our
partnership
working
to
deliver
something
really
really
special
for
our
residents.
C
I
had
to
re-read
the
100
affordable
bit
when,
when
these
papers
came
out,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
look
too
far
outside
of
our
area
to
look
at
other
local
authority
areas
that
have
you
know,
disposed
of
assets
and
have
regenerated
and
have
delivered
zero,
affordable
housing
on
on
their
sites.
So
I
think
that
that's
really
to
be
to
be
welcomed
and
actually
where
it's,
where
it's
got
to
in
terms
of
you
know
resident
our
resident
priorities
I
think,
are
being
met
and
I
think
we
will
hold
hyde.
C
You
know
to
account
in
terms
of
ensuring
you
know
the
sustainability
credentials
as
well
as
some
of
those
operational
things
that
that
have
been
mentioned.
I
think
it's
been
fair
to
say
that
if
this
was
an
easy
site
to
develop,
a
developer
would
have
developed
it
years
ago.
It
isn't
and
it
hasn't
been-
and
I
think
but
but
where
we
are
now,
I
think
is
a
really
welcome
position.
C
Just
one
one
question
I
had
in
terms
of
the
relationship
with
hyde
and
obviously
I've
declared
my
interest
previously,
and
this
isn't
a
loaded
question,
because
worthing
homes,
I
don't
believe,
would
qualify
in
terms
of
access
to
homes,
england.
But
what
was
the
process
in
terms
of
hyde
being
chosen
as
a
partner?
Was
there
an
open,
competitive
process
or
was
it
more
of
a
sort
of
a
conversation
they
approached
us
using
the
words
you
use
so
just
be
a
little
interested
in
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
on
how
hyde
landed.
T
Yeah,
absolutely
so
the
council,
I
suppose
the
council,
sorry,
council
officers,
have
a
relationship
with
hyde
housing
group
from
some
other
developments
that
are
taking
place
in
a
well
in
a
district
on
a
site
just
down
the
road.
So
we
do
some
long
established
relationships
there
where
we're
working
on
a
similar
scheme,
which
is
also
100,
affordable,
30
through
the
106
and
then
topped
up
through
the
homes
england
grant.
T
So
while
that
relationship
was
there,
we've
done
a
lot
of
soft
market
testing
with
other
and
different
partners.
We've
looked
at
the
scheme
with
another
significant
registered
provider
active
in
the
area
and
with
a
number
of
development
companies,
both
local
and
nationally.
T
While
the
high
is
before
you
that
there
is
some
paragraphs
in
the
report
section
five
that
says
we
haven't
gone
to
market,
we
haven't
put
it
out
there
openly
that
it
is
a
an
off
market
deal.
What
what
the
key
thing
in
terms
of
financials
is.
We've
said
that
we
will
have
to
have
a
red
book
valuation
and
we'll
have
to
demonstrate
our
best
consideration
requirements.
T
But
frankly,
it's
been
that
long
relationship
that
we've
had
a
series
of
joint
working,
looking
at
different
priorities
and
looking
for
learning
and
development
from
one
another
that
has
brought
about
that.
I
do
want
to
say
it's
not
a
sweetheart
deal.
It's
not
something
inappropriate.
We
will
have
to
meet
best
consideration,
we'll
have
to
get
our
return
on
the
site
for
the
investment
we've
made,
but
that
is
it
as
long
as
we're
structuring
it
as
a
land
deal
rather
than
a
procurement.
It's
a
safe
procurement
route,
essentially.
M
Thank
you
chairman,
and
just
a
supplement
really.
Mr
cronin
has
said
there.
I
think,
there's
a
couple
of
important
points.
You
know
one
is
that
a
registered
provider
has
come
forward.
Who
has
that
strategic
relationship?
You
know
with
homes,
england
and
therefore
has
access
to
the
28
million
pounds.
Will
thereabouts
that
mr
cronin
referred
to
in
his
in
in
his
introduction
to
the
report
and
I'll
just
reiterate
that
the
you
know
their
rationale,
the
reason
for
doing
that.
M
Yes,
absolutely
you
know
good
experience
of
working
with
the
team
at
the
borough
council,
you
know,
but
also
because
they
have
that
certainty
around
the
ownership
arrangements
on
the
site
and
it's
that
aspect
which
is
preventing
other
development
teams
from
coming
forward.
And,
frankly,
you
know
using
their
money,
which
is
you
know
in
in
plain
language,
which
is
taking
an
investment
risk.
M
You
know
when
the
partner
wasn't
the
borough
council
key
aspect
is
that
the
partners
of
the
borough
council,
therefore
no
real,
surprise
that
a
strategic
partner
of
homes,
england,
steps
forward
and
wants
to
wants
to
work
at
pace
to
form
a
relationship
with
the
borough
council
team
and
secure
development
within
their
agreement
with
homes,
england,
which
of
course,
you
know,
demands
that
they
do
work
at
pace.
As
I
said,
council.
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
really
helpful
and
actually-
and
I
didn't
just
to
clarify-
I
didn't
want
to
appear
to
be
pouring
any
kind
of
lukewarm
water
on
on
on
what
is
a
really
positive
thing.
I
think
the
fact
that
a
large
housing
provider
has
approached
is
a
really
positive
thing.
I
just
wanted,
and
you
have
given
me
the
reassurance
that
we
weren't
you
know
the
the
procurement
process
was
as
robust
as
I
would
expect.
So
that's
really
helpful
and
the
context
is
welcome.
Thank
you.
D
I
think
just
following
up
on
those
comments
is
interesting
because
of
the
already
have
homes,
england
money
available
to
spend
on
projects
like
this
and
we've
seen
historically,
that
the
other
owners
of
these
sites
were
indeed
vivid,
were
not
there
with
that
money
available
in
the
bank
and
we're
always
going
to
have
to
go
to
homes,
england,
to
secure
that
funding,
to
bring
it
forward
so
actually
to
have
a
significant
player
like
this
who's
able
to
bring
that
site
forward,
burn
in
mind
that
we
have
committed
as
a
borough
council
to
buy
the
site,
but
to
move
it
on
within
three
years
to
be
able
to
do
that
significantly
with
somebody
who
can
do
that
to
reduce
the
risk
to
the
borough
has
got
to
be
well
met
and
delivered.
D
I
have
a
question
for
you,
mr
cronin,
because
clearly
we're
looking
to
work
with
hyde
to
produce
300,
odd
houses,
40
of
which
will
be
for
social
rent,
but
nonetheless
you
we
see
that
from
the
proposed
build
on
the
site.
It
is
one
two
bedroom
apartments.
It
is
blocks
of
various
heights
and
descriptions,
and
I
say
it
must
be
welcome
to
ensure
the
residents
in
the
area
will
welcome
the
fact
that
it's
coming
down
from
11
to
potentially
somewhere
between
8
and
11
stories.
D
The
impact
of
that
area
will
not
be
significant,
but
then,
when
you,
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
feedback,
there's
come
back
to
the
report
that
went
out
from
this
last
meeting
is
we're
talking
about
building
homes,
but
why
aren't
we
building
houses
on
that
site
because
clearly
now
is
a
borough
council
we
own
that
site?
Why
would
we
not
go
and
build
houses
on
it
rather
than
the
quantum
of
homes
that
we're
doing
it
does?
T
T
Always
around
transport
hubs
is
about
putting
density
in
those
locations,
the
the
kind
of
central
policy
around
increasing
density
in
those
areas,
so
that
the
local
plan
rightly
puts
higher
density
schemes
in
the
town
centre
near
to
facilities
near
to
public
transport,
so
that
the
first
hurdle
that
you'd
have
to
surmount,
if
you
brought
a
housing
scheme,
would
be
that
planning
policy
test
and
you
you
see
from
you
know
recent
decisions
on
on
the
local
plan
and
on
appeal
decisions
that
unless
we're
turning
over
every
rock,
we
can
to
find
lots
of
homes
you're
putting
other,
perhaps
more
environmentally
sensitive
sites
at
risk.
T
So
it's
about
that
housing.
First
policy
in
terms
of
viability,
I
mean
we
paid
7
million
pounds
for
the
land.
The
site
is
1.47
hectares.
So
if
you
take
50
dwellings
per
hectare
for
a
housing
scheme,
you're
talking
roughly
70
odd
homes,
75
homes,
so
each
home
would
have
to
bear
a
land
cost
of
approximately
hundred
thousand
pounds
and
that's
before
you
actually
build
it.
So
your
construction
cost
two
and
a
half
to
twenty
eight
hundred
a
square
meter
just
over
two
hundred
thousand
pounds.
T
T
You
then
have
to
run
a
cash
flow
of
of
homes
off
300
000
pounds.
It's.
It
would
be
very,
very
unlikely
to
be
viable.
I
can't
say
that
without
running
a
proper
appraisal,
but
that
number
of
homes
you're
unlikely
to
get
planning
approval,
and
even
if
you
did
it's
unlikely,
that
the
value
paid
for
the
site
would
be
recouped
off
100
homes.
T
The
land
market
is
really
funny
at
the
moment,
but
a
house
or
75
homes.
I
think
I
said
that
that
number
of
homes
really
isn't
going
to
sustain
the
value
that
we
paid
for
the
site
and
given
the
amount
we
have
paid
and
the
opportunity
there
for
a
bit
of
height
for
a
bit
more
density
yeah.
I
can't
really
see
it
working
through.
D
Okay,
that's
that's
helpful
to
understand,
and
I'm
one
one
assumes
that
something
we've
explored
but
discounted
as
part
of
the
process
that
we've
got
to
hear
today,
and
I
think
your
point
in
there
you
made
was-
I
just
made
a
note
of
it
here
is
we
we
don't
go
for
density
in
the
town
center?
We
are
going
to
put
our
greenfield
sites
at
greater
risk,
and
indeed
issues
I
think
alluded
to
you
know
the
chapsmal
farm
appeal.
That's
just
gone
through,
doesn't
help
and
give
that
sheer
example
of
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
P
Sorry,
yes,
thank
you
chairman
just
following
on
from
what
you
said.
If
we
were
to
go
down
the
route
of
building
houses
rather
than
high
density,
presumably
we
wouldn't
get
the
funding
from
homes,
england,
because
it's
not
viable.
T
You
might
get
some
grants
so
when
we
build
eata
or
if
the
homes
are
on
a
secure
tenancy
for
affordable
housing,
you
get
some
grant.
I
think
in
schemes
and
worthy
we've
had
about
thirty
thousand
pounds,
so
you
get
some
grant,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
would
be
enough
to
tip
it
into
a
viable
scheme.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
Any
more
questions
from
colleagues:
okay!
Well,
thank
you,
mr
cronin,
mr
randall.
For
for
the
update-
and
it's
really
welcomed.
I
think
you
know
we
made
a
commitment
when
we
bought
tevillegate
gate.
D
We
wanted
to
break
the
impasse
that
had
been
there
for
many
years
on
devil
gate
between
the
various
owners.
It
sat
there.
It
looks
derelict
it
is
derelict
and
we
want
to
improve
that
approach
to
worthy.
But,
more
importantly,
we
need
to
provide
homes
to
our
residents
and
to
provide
over
340
homes,
137
of
which
will
be
going
for
social
rent,
which
will,
I
am
sure,
through
the
heads
of
terms
and
the
contracts
that
we
sign,
that
or
even
more
be
able
to
be
allocated
to
people
off
the
worthing
housing
register.
D
I
think
it's
137.2,
when
I
did.
My
calculation
would
be
really
good
to
support
those
communities
and
it's
something
that
we
really
do
need
to
do
in
the
town.
It's
very
important
that
we
can
allocate
families
homes
in
their
hometown
rather
than
having
to
go
further
afield,
and
indeed
looking
at
this,
it
does
meet
our
stated
objectives
at
the
very
beginning
to
take
control,
find
a
development
move
that
development
forward
and
and
then
vacate
that
site
ourselves
and
recruit
the
outlay
of
the
council's
money.
In
that
respect,
so
very
grateful.
D
D
Is
that
noted
point
2.2
agree
the
proposed
route
set
out
in
the
report
for
the
sale
of
the
land
at
tevogate
following
joint
working
to
agree
a
development
scheme
and
secure
planning
permission?
Is
that
agreed
and
at
2.3
delegate
authority
to
the
head
of
major
projects
and
investment
in
consultation
with
the
birthing
borough
council's
executive
member
for
resources
to
develop
the
draft
heads
of
terms
for
the
sale
of
the
land
at
evil
gate,
to
hide
and
thereafter
to
take
a
further
report
to
the
joint
strategic
committee?
D
For
authority
to
enter
into
the
conditional
sale
contract
for
the
sale
of
the
lane
subject
to
those
heads
of
terms
is
that
agree
for
the
delegation?
Excellent.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you,
mr
cronin,
mr
randall,
for
that
report.
That
then
takes
us
to
agenda
item
11,
which
is
the
carbon
neutral,
2030
worthy
heat
network
progress,
an
update,
mr
brewer.
U
Thank
you
chairman,
and
my
colleague,
dan
goodchat,
from
the
sustainability
team,
is
here
our
carbon
reduction
manager
too.
To
pick
up
up
on
some
of
the
detail,
mr.
D
Brewer
before
you
start
can
I
just
say
thank
you
publicly
to
yourself
and
mr
good
child
for
the
presentation
that
you
gave
to
george
eustis
when
he
came
to
visit
the
town
the
other
day.
He
was
very
impressed
with
what
he
heard
and
the
explanation
that
you
gave
around
the
heat
network
and
how
we
intend
to
use
that
five
million
pound
from
base.
So
thank
you
for
that.
So
sorry
to
cut
you
in
your
prime
there,
but
please
do
come
to
the
report.
U
Oh
thank
you
for
that
so
really
delighted
to
to
provide
an
update
to
joint
strategic
committee
tonight
on
the
worthing
heat
network.
As
we
reach
this
key
milestone
of
launching
the
procurement
exercise,
the
project
is
going
to
reduce
emissions
from
seven
of
our
own
buildings
by
85
percent
and
the
whole
network,
when
established,
is
expected
to
reduce
carbon
emissions
by
3000
tons
a
year
and
for
reference,
one
ton
is
equivalent
to
6
000
kilometers
in
a
diesel
car.
So
that's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
miles.
U
It's
a
really
significant
and
tangible
contribution
to
the
2045
carbon
neutral
target
for
the
whole
area.
Given
that
the
heat
network
will
enable
organizations
and
developments
to
to
take
low
carbon
heat
as
it
as
it's
provided,
a
huge
amount
of
work
has
been
undertaken
to
get
us
to
this
point
really
grateful
to
to
dan
and
a
range
of
council
teams
for
getting
us
here.
This
intensive
work
to
help
reach
this
milestone,
lots
and
lots
of
detail.
U
So
a
big
big
thank
you
to
to
the
legal
finance
and
procurement
teams
as
as
well
as
some
really
great
specialist
partners
that
we've
been
working
with
the
project
continues
to
lead
the
way
in
both
its
proposal
to
utilize
waste
heat
from
a
sewer
and
its
approach,
and
this
is
really
important
to
adopt
a
concession-based
model
for
a
town
centre-wide
scheme.
The
project
remains
key
in
future
central
government
plans.
U
Bay's
bay's
plans
to
roll
out
this
concession-based
model
around
the
uk
to
provide
low-carbon
heat
networks
across
the
country
and
continues
to
receive
considerable
support
from
bayes's
heat
network
development
unit.
As
a
result,
you've
mentioned
george
eustis's
visit
and
it
was
good
to
good
to
walk
around
and
show
the
secretary
of
state
where
the
network
will
be
within
the
next
month.
U
V
Thank
you,
mr
brewer,
so
to
update
committee
since
the
previous
joint
strategic
committee
discussion
on
this
last
october.
The
council
has
now
drawn
down
its
heat
network
investment
project,
h-nip
funding
and
has
utilized
this
to
begin.
The
commercialization
stage
of
the
product
in
earnest.
V
Since
october,
specialist
advisors
have
been
appointed
regarding
technical,
commercial,
stakeholder
engagement,
legal
and
project
management
matters
concerning
the
worthing
heat
network
and
through
input
from
the
council's
own
staff,
notably
those
in
finance,
legal
and
procurement.
A
suite
of
procurement
documents
has
been
prepared
that
will
enable
the
council
to
let
the
contract
in
a
procurement
compliant
way.
V
This
has
resulted
in
the
council
now
being
able
to
present
to
the
market,
a
scheme
in
which
bidders
can
have
confidence
that
the
opportunity
is
both
realistic
and
attractive,
which
will
drive
competitive
bids.
That,
in
turn,
will
generate
the
most
cost-effective
solution
for
customers
of
the
heat
network.
V
S
It's
very
short
I'll
read
it,
because
it's
actually
addressed
to
members
members
should
note
that
it's
not
a
requirement
of
the
procurement
that
the
winning
bidder,
utilizes
sewer
heat
at
all.
The
scenario
developed
in
detail
by
the
project
team
to
date
is
to
be
used
as
a
reference
and
minimum
requirement
as
such.
If
the
bidder
can
demonstrate
that
an
alternative
solution
is
at
least
as
advantageous
than
utilizing
the
sewer
this
is
to
be
deemed
acceptable
to
the
council.
S
I
was
astonished
to
read
that
and
I'm
a
member
and
I've
noted
it.
So
I
would
like
someone
to
comment
on
it.
Are
we
really
not
going
to
insist
that,
whoever,
whichever
concessionaire
we
engage,
doesn't
have
to
do
a
district
heat
network
from
the
sewer.
V
You
very
much
chairman
yes
to
address
that
point
directly.
The
procurement
exercise
is
an
output-based
specification,
so
we
are
suggesting
that
if
the
concessionaire
partner
and
the
the
the
operators
in
the
market
that
exist
at
present
can
produce
a
solution
that
meets
both
the
carbon
and
cost
parameters
that
are
set
out
by
the
proposed
sewer
solution,
then
that
would
be
acceptable
to
the
council.
V
We
are
not
seeking
to
require
them
or
obligate
them,
to
use
the
sewer
source,
the
sewer
source
solution
and,
in
so
doing
hoping
to
drive
further
innovation
in
terms
of
how
we
can
deliver
low
carbon
heating
for
both
worthing
and
the
wider
uk
area.
S
But
if
we're
actually
not
going
to
insist
that
the
concessionaire
use
does
takes
the
heat
from
the
sewer,
I
wonder
what
this
whole
exercise
is
all
about,
but
we'll
move
on
from
that.
Although
this
council.
D
U
Mr
brewer,
thank
you
chairman.
Yes,
just
just
to
reiterate
really
the
point
that
mr
goodchild's
made
it's
really
important
in
this
kind
of
procurement
to
set
the
outcomes
that
we're
seeking,
rather
than
to
define
the
solution
in
detail.
U
Clearly,
we've
done
a
great
deal
of
feasibility
work
to
demonstrate
that
the
sewer
source
heat
network
appears
to
be
the
best
technical
solution
to
the
problem
and
to
deliver
the
outcomes
that
we're
seeking.
But
we
don't
want
to
constrain
the
specialists
that
will
come
to
market
to
provide
the
the
technical
solutions
and
to
innovate
on
the
technical
solutions
that
may
not
have
yet
been
developed
in
detail
by
us
as
a
paper
exercise.
So
we
don't
want
to
constrain
the
market.
U
But
clearly
the
main
thing
is
to
deliver
that
3
000
tons
of
carbon
emissions
reduction
and
that's
why
we
set
an
outcomes
based
framework.
But,
having
done
a
great
deal
of
central
government,
funded
feasibility
study
to
help
the
market
understand
what
technical
options
are
available
here
and
having
done
the
work,
for
example,
with
southern
water,
to
agree
heads
of
terms
in
terms
of
leasing
the
sewers
for
this
purpose.
That
gives
them
a
head
start
in
terms
of
the
technical
solution
that
may
be
in
front
of
them.
D
Bruno
just
following
up
on
that
point,
we
will
come
back
to
council
sealment.
One
would
assuming
that,
with
the
same
way
that
we've
been
having
those
ongoing
conversations
with
bays
and
they've
allocated
the
money
they
will
be
party
to
this.
This
isn't
worthing
borough
council
just
unilaterally
saying
this
is
this
has
got
to
be
part
of
that
wider
development
program.
S
Yes,
thank
you.
We
have
had
two
reports
tonight
which
are
not
named
in
this
item:
11,
that
is
teville
and
union,
but
we
do
refer
in
agenda
item
11
to
development
sites
in
this
area
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
timing
of
all
this,
because
the
local
plan
is
going
to
require
the
developers
of
these
sites
to
connect
to
be.
D
E
V
So
local
planning
policy,
once
it's
adopted,
will
require
the
heat
network.
Readiness
policy
will
require
essentially
a
communal
heating
system
that
safeguards
both
space
within
the
plant
room
for
the
plate,
heat
exchangers,
enabling
connection
between
the
heat
network
pipework
that
the
concessionaire
will
own
and
maintain
and
the
secondary
supply
systems
owned
and
maintained
by
the
landlord
or
freeholder
of
the
developments.
V
Temperature
and
design
of
system
going
forward.
We
are
expecting
union
place
and
table
gate
to
connect
to.
W
V
Heat
network-
and
they
are
part
of
the
procurement
exercise
that
we
are
currently
conducting
and
the
bids
that
we
will
receive
will
account
for
that
in
their
financial
modeling
as
well.
We
have
obviously,
of
course,
worked
with
planning
colleagues
and
colleagues
in
kian's
team
to
address
that
an
early
stage
in
the
discussions
with
the
with
the
developers-
and
I
don't
know
if
mr
cronin
would
like
to
come
in
and
discuss
anything.
T
Dan
you've
answered
it
much
better
than
I
would.
The
only
thing
I
would
say
is
the
existing
development
that
we
have
inside
the
wickers.
We've
encountered
this
development
quite
early
on
and
we
progress
it
and
we've
done
exactly
as
you've
said
there.
We
have
a
an
electric
heat
system
in
that
building
that
can
be
retrofitted
and
you
can
plug
in
the
the
heat
network
through
that.
T
So
it's
a
it's
not
an
a
cheap
thing
to
do,
but
in
the
overall
finance
of
the
heat
network
it
makes
sense
over
over
a
long
time
period
that
the
buildings
are
are
going
to
be
designed
for
so
yeah.
It's
it's
planned
for
an
existing
developments
that
we
have
underway
would
be
a
requirement
of
planning
policy,
and
indeed
ourselves
as
the
developer
for
for
the
other
two
developments
that
are
in
our
control.
D
S
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
that
leads
me
on
to
I
mean
I'm
sure
nobody
would
be
enthusiastic
about
putting
in
one
lot
of
boilers
and
then
ripping
them
out
to
retrofit
them
for
the
for
the
for
the
heat
network
and
obviously,
in
this
whole
process
and
project,
there
will
be
production
of
co2
to
get
it
up
and
running,
and
it
would
be,
I
think,
reckless,
to
have
several
hundred
homes
with
some
heating
system
installed
new,
which
will
then
have
to
be
retrofitted.
S
Yes,
the
third
question
is
about
the
production,
the
co2
produced
by
getting
this
system
up
and
running
to
the
20
buildings
that
are
suggested
on
the
feasibility
study.
And
how
long
will
it
take
to
comp?
How
long
will
it
take
when
the
system
is
up
and
running
to
pay
back
the
co2
produced
in
its
production.
D
V
Now,
mr
chairman,
that
is
essentially
the
the
answer
I
would
have
given
with
the
additional
comment
that
we
can
certainly
ask
the
bidders
to
address
the
issue
of
embodied
carbon
and
carbon
paybacks
in
there.
In
their
responses,
there
will
be
an
element
within
the
procurement
exercise
and
looking
at
social
value
and
part
of
their
social
value,
does
look
at
the
sustainability
question
in
the
round
and
embody
carbon
and
whole
life
cycle.
Carbon
analysis
will
be
conducted
as
part
of
that.
Okay.
D
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you
chair.
It's
really
interesting.
Actually
I
looked
at
the
the
the
section
that
councillor
silma
made
reference
to
around
not
being
obliged
to
rely
on
the
sewer
and
I
actually
looked
at
it
in
a
completely
different
way.
I
read
that
as
wow.
Well,
what
else
could
there
be?
I
was.
C
I
was
pretty
impressed
with
the
heat
from
waste
idea,
but
I
think
that
the
idea
that
there
could
be
something
else
I
think
is
is
is
really
interesting
and
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
we
focus
on
the
output
because,
frankly,
if
someone
could
come
along
with
some
incredible
scheme
that
you
know,
we've
not
heard
of
yet
which
many
of
us
hadn't
heard
of
heat
from
waste,
that
is
better
less
carbon
intensive
quicker
to
deliver
cheaper
than
why
on
earth.
Wouldn't
we
consider
it,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
thing.
C
This
is
obviously
clearly
really
important
to
our
decarbonization
agenda
and
it's
really
great
to
have
this
report.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions,
one
of
which
I
think
I
may
have
answered
myself,
but
in
terms
of
excess
capacity.
So
forgive
me
if
this
is
covered.
I
don't
think
it
is
in
terms
of
access
capacity,
so
this
time
of
year
you
know
we're
heating
our
homes
and
we're
using.
You
know
this.
This
amount
of
heat
in
the
summer,
presumably
many
of
the
buildings
connected,
will
have
lower
usages.
C
I
know
that
areas
like
the
hospital
and
the
wick
would
be
connected,
which
would
require
heating.
Is
there
a?
Is
there
any
ability
to
to
use
that
excess
capacity?
I
know
that
there
are
examples
elsewhere
of
it
being
used
agriculturally
for
sort
of
heating
greenhouses
and
such,
and
I
just
wondered
in
the
months
when
the
heat
is
being
is
under
much
lower
demand
generally.
Is
there
any
way
of
banking
or
using
the
the
excess
capacity
for
another
use
in
the
borough.
V
Yes,
so
thermal
storage
is
part
of
any
heat
networking
operation,
the
commercial
viability
of
inter-seasonal
thermal
storage-
am
I
charging
a
thermal
battery
up
over
summer
and
discharging
over
winter
isn't
isn't
commercially
viable
yet.
Similarly,
it
would
be
very
possible
to
provide
heat
that
is
not
being
used
by
the
hospital
or
other
connections
to,
for
example,
an
agricultural
use
if
there
was
an
agriculture
use
connected
to
the
heat
network.
V
Unfortunately,
this
is
a
town
centre
scheme
and
it
would
require
quite
significant
expansion
north
to
reach
a
an
agricultural
and
consumer
of
heat.
But
if
that
were
to
ever
for
the
opportunity
were
to
ever
arise
in
10
15
20
years
time,
then
yes
for
certain
it
could
it
could
provide
heat
whenever
it
whenever
needed.
C
One
more
forgive
me
this
is
a
slightly
pedestrian
question.
I'm
gonna
ask
anywhere
pure
curiosity.
I
read
in
in
the
report
around
how
around
accurate
metering
and
availability
and
whatnot
how
we're
all
used
to
kilowatt
hours
and
and
units
for
our
domestic
energy.
How
is
a
heat
network
metered
in
terms
of?
Is
it
btus?
Is
it
firms?
How
is
what
is
the
mechanism
for
calculating
units
used?
Thank.
V
Yeah,
it's
measured
in
exactly
the
same
way.
Kilowatt
hours
consumed
and
the
difference
is
your
gas
boiler
will
consume
kilo
hours
of
gas
and
turn
it
into
fewer
kilowatt
hours
of
heat,
so
essentially
you're
paying
for
kilowatt
hours
of
gas
that
you
don't
get
useful
heat
out
of
in
this
instance,
you'll
be
getting
100
useful
heat
on
like
a
one-to-one
basis,
because
it's
measured
at
the
point
it
enters
the
property
or
the
development.
D
Any
other
questions
and
colleagues
in
the
room,
no
okay,
thank
you,
mr
good
child,
mr
brewer,
for
the
report.
A
couple
of
questions
from
myself
is
obviously
we're
going
to
go
out
to
tender.
Who
is
there
out
there
at
the
moment
that
we
would
be
anticipating
would
be
coming
forward
to
to
consider
taking
on
such
a
project
such
a
innovative
project
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
first
of
its
kind
in
in
in
the
uk.
You
know,
where
is
that
market.
D
V
So
yeah,
there's
probably
about
eight
or
so
regular
and
reliable,
distribute
network
network
operators
in
the
uk.
Some
of
them
are
large
energy
companies
such
as
eon
and
sse,
both
of
which
have
heat
network
arms.
There
are
many
smaller,
so
medium-sized
heat
network
operators
that
do
many
of
the
heat
networks
in
london
and
and
northern
cities.
V
So
there's
there
is
a
strong
market
there,
like
I
mentioned
in
in
the
report
earlier,
there
are
50
attendees
at
our
our
most
recent
soft
market
testing
day,
and
we
would
expect
to
get
a
number
of
bids
back
as
a
result.
V
There
is
particular
interest
in
this
one,
not
only
because
we
are
potentially
offering
the
opportunity
for
the
concessionaire
to
be
run
in
perpetuity,
rather
than
it
being
a
25
year
or
40-year
contract,
where
the
assets
essentially
have
no
value
at
the
end
of
that
life,
but
also
they
have
an
opportunity
to
opportunity
to
have
a
government-backed
first
mover
advantage
if
you
like
in
getting
tapping
into
the
sewer
heat
provisionally
and
therefore
being
able
to
replicate
that
across
the
country
going
forward.
D
Okay,
that's
helpful.
Thank
you.
I
think
in
your
report.
You
obviously
covered
that
there's
a
number
of
sites
that
are
potentially
capable
of
being
connected
and
27.
You
total
as
potential
sites
really
interested
one
of
the
biggest
providers
or
one
of
the
biggest
users
should,
I
say
other
than
the
civic
center,
where
we're
primarily
would
be
the
hospital.
What's
the
engagement
we've
had
with
the
hospital,
because
I
would
imagine
for
them,
there
must
be
some
significant
advantages
that
come
from
it.
V
Yeah
we
are
having
weekly
meetings
with
hospital
staff
at
the
moment,
both
colleagues
from
their
finance
and
technical
teams,
but
also
procurement.
V
So
the
hospital
will
be
on
the
evaluation
panel
for
the
procurement
exercise
to
make
sure
that
they
are
fully
brought
in
to
to
the
solution
that
we're
essentially
recommending
businesses
and
the
public
sector
in
word
and
connect
to
we've.
Also
provided
them
with
technical
memorandum
on
memoranda
to
enable
them
to
provisionally
identify
areas
where
they
can
improve
the
efficiency
of
their
existing
systems.
V
To
connect
better
into
the
heat
network
and
going
forward
this
summer
myself
and
my
colleague
carol
murphy
and
the
carbon
reduction
team
will
be
helping
the
hospitals
to
apply
for
public
sector
decarbonisation
scheme
funding
which
both
ada
and
worthing
were
successful
in
receiving
last
year
to
enable
heat
network
development,
both
in
smaller
schemes
in
ada
and
then
obviously
the
civic
quarter
buildings
in
worthing.
So
we
hope
to
be
able
to
take
a
leading
role
in
in
securing
more
funding
for
the
worthing.
That
way.
D
Okay,
thank
you
any
more,
of
course,
okay.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
report.
I
think
it
it.
It
just
shows
in
that,
in
the
same
way
that
we've
heard
at
previous
meetings
here
from
mr
cronin
when
we've
taken
the
lead
and
taken
and
created
that
platform
and
leading
to
set
up
in
our
places
around
the
integrated
health
center,
we've
made
that
platform
for
other
nhs
providers.
D
We
seem
to
be
doing
very
much
the
same
here
in
creating
that
platform
for
the
heat
network
within
the
town
and
making
that
viable
for
a
number
of
opportunities,
and
particularly
you
know,
would
be
the
hospital
to
win
that.
So,
if
we
come
to
section
two
of
the
report,
members
are
asked
to
note
the
following
bits:
2.1
to
know
the
progress
of
the
report
below
will
be
noting
that
okay
2.2
is
to
approve
the
publication
of
the
procurement
documentation
as
set
out
in
section
5..
D
Do
we
approve
that
and
then
at
2.3
to
note
the
indicative
heat
supply
and
connection
agreement
parameters
and
reaffirm
this
council's
commitment
to
executing
these
documents
upon
completion
of
the
procurement
process
and
finally,
2.4
accept
a
further
update
report
at
jsc
prior
to
the
appointment
of
the
concessionaire
to
include
delegation
of
authority
to
the
director
for
digital
sustainability
resources
to
enter
into
heat
supply
and
connection
agreements
with
the
appointed
concessionaire
we
agreed:
okay,
so
good
job,
mr
bro,
thank
you
ever
so
much
for
the
update
really
really
interesting.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
we
move
on
with
the
agenda.
We
go
to
item
12,
which
is
the
words
in
lido
structural
investigations
and
proposed
next
steps.
I
believe
that's,
mr
cronin.
T
Chairman,
thank
you.
I'm
really
pleased
to
be
presenting
this
tonight,
because
this
is
a
culmination
of
a
number
of
years
of
hard
work
by
my
colleague,
phil,
graham
who's,
the
project
manager
in
this
report.
While
the
report
itself
is
brief
enough,
the
amount
of
studies
and
investigations
and
options
that
underpin
it
is
really
really
significant
and
I'm
unfortunately,
phil
can't
be
here
tonight,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
down
to
him.
T
I
don't
normally
dwell
on
the
background,
the
context
of
a
report
as
well,
but
I
actually
think
it's
really
important
in
this
one,
because
this
is
the
first
time
in
a
number
of
years
the
council
has
considered
a
report
on
the
lydo
and
that
background
in
context
is
actually
really
rich
and
really
interesting
in
terms
of
the
context,
the
the
regeneration
of
our
seafront
and
continuing
to
work
on
that
is
really
really
important.
T
I
personally
feel
there's
been
a
lot
of
success
when
you
see
the
opening
of
bayside
social,
the
work
in
southern
pavilion,
which
is
due
to
open
up
in
the
next
number
of
weeks,
the
work
we're
doing
at
the
moment,
with
k-66
to
open
up
the
deck
above
that
west
building
shelter
and
the
regeneration
of
that
which
has
got
planning
permission.
T
Indeed,
the
concessions
and
events
program
that
my
colleagues
in
the
place
and
economy
team
have
been
working
on
over
the
last
number
of
years,
it's
natural
with
with
all
of
that
success
and
all
of
that
interest
for
attention
to
turn
to
the
lido.
But
it's
only
within
that
context,
really
that
the
lido
that
the
opportunity
is
presented,
the
background
of
the
lighter
as
well.
I
find
quite
interesting.
It's
it's.
T
It's
not
really
a
lido,
it's
a
bandstand,
but
it
just
shows
the
importance
of
a
name
and
the
the
importance
of
that
association
with
what
the
future
should
be
for
an
asset.
So
it's
just
an
interesting
context
that
we
have
the
the
meat
of
the
report,
really
talks
about
understanding
the
challenge
and
it
talks
about
the
substructure
and
the
issues
that
face
the
area
of
the
lidar.
That's
underneath
the
deck.
Essentially,
these
are
the
struts
that
go
into
the
sea
or
into
the
beach.
T
They
keep
it
aloft
the
superstructure
which
is
the
bit
above
ground
and
what's
used
in
there,
while
it's
all
a
listed
building.
Actually
some
of
that
isn't
in
the
greatest
condition,
a
number
it
are
quite
late
editions
and
a
number
of
the
materials
used
are
not
of
the
highest
quality
and
and
have
really
suffered
over
a
number
of
years,
hammering
from
the
sea.
T
What
really
brings
it
together,
then,
is
the
building's
listed
status.
So
it's
a
great
two-listed
building
nominated
such
by
list,
but
by
historic
england.
It
really
is
a
a
character
for
building
when
you
get
into
it
and
you
walk
around.
It's
not
just
the
the
impression
from
afar.
Actually
is
the
detail.
It's
the
layout,
it's
the
size
and
shape
of
the
building
and
actually
the
proportions
of
the
space
in
between
that.
T
That
add
up
to
what
it
is,
and
then
it's
actually
the
energy
performance
and,
of
course,
the
viability
of
the
scheme,
we're
quite
conscious
that
the
the
the
structure
is
is
quite
difficult
and
the
cost
of
that
will
be
significant,
but
actually
the
viability,
viability
of
a
use
in
it
is
never
really
likely
to
pay
for
all
of
the
works
that
are
needed
to
it.
T
So
it's
about
choosing
the
most
appropriate
use
in
there
and
the
interplay
of
these
four
or
five
different
issues
really
presents
the
opportunity
for
the
site,
but
also
presents
the
challenge,
and
it's
how
you
can
balance
off
the
need
for
the
substructure.
You
need
to
repair
the
superstructure
within
the
context
of
it
being
a
list
of
billing
status,
ensuring
you
do
that
in
a
sustainable
and
carbon
efficient
manner
and
all
balancing
that
opposite
is
this
viability
issue
that
sits
over
it
all.
What
the
report
really
does
is
it
sets
out.
T
All
of
this
background
sets
out
the
challenges
and
then
sets
out
how
we
think
we
actually
need
to
do
understanding
the
asset
and
understanding
how
it
fits
into
the
the
kind
of
psyche
of
the
town,
how
it's
appreciated
by
residents
and
by
visitors
how
it,
for
you
know,
forms
part
of
people's
childhood
and
people's
future.
Actually,
it
means
a
lot
of
people
have
an
opinion
someone's
telling
me
about
their
first
kiss
around
the
back
of
it.
Recently
it
was
such
a
sweet
little
story.
T
T
I
I
won't
tell
you,
which
counselor
that
was
so
one
thing
we
really
want
to
focus
on
is
actually
understanding.
All
of
that
context
and
understanding
all
of
that
richness
and
we
feel
a
really
good
program
of
community
engagement
and
consultation,
is
critical.
T
It's
really
easy
to
stand
and
say
it
should
be
a
restaurant
or
it
should
be
a
swimming
pool,
or
it
should
be
something
else,
but
actually
understanding
all
of
those
stories
engaging
properly
as
the
council
as
the
asset
owner
working
with
all
of
the
community,
to
try
and
bring
together
a
narrative
in
a
context
and
kind
of
a
consensus
around
what
should
be
done
with
it.
All
within
those
parameters
we
feel
is,
is
really
really
important.
T
The
key
challenge,
of
course,
for
this
is
developing
up
a
financial
strategy
and
section
7
kind
of
sets
out
what
we
think
the
approach
should
be
it's
around
leveraging
in
funding
it's
around
working
with
partners
and
potential
high
net
worth
individuals,
or
indeed
crowdfunding
donations
towards
the
project,
and
it's
looking
at
other
assets.
The
council
owns
that
could
be
sold
for
for
a
revenue
return
to
reduce.
Then
the
costs
of
of
regeneration,
what
also
important
within
that
is
the
options
for
what
we
do
will
affect
the
cost
of
it.
T
So
if
you
put
something
significantly
heavy
on
top
of
the
lidar
or
into
the
lido
that
affects
the
cost
of
the
structure
and
supporting
it
up.
So
it's
quite
a
circular
argument:
the
lighter
the
cheaper
it
will
be
the
heavier
the
more
expensive
it
will
be
and
all
within
that
heritage
context,
I'm
really
excited
to
go
off
and
start
doing
this
public
engagement.
T
Should
the
report
be
approved
tonight,
it's
a
really
exciting
piece
of
infrastructure,
and
it's
that
opportunity
that
we've
been
given
from
a
lot
of
success
on
the
seafront
of
the
last
number
of
years
really
puts
us
in
a
good
position
to
go
out.
There
talk
to
people
understand
what
the
issues
and
what
they
see
is
the
opportunity
is
and
to
go
from
there
to
really
come
forward
with
an
exciting
plan
once
we
know
all
of
the
issues
and
all
of
the
ambitions
for
the
site.
T
C
Yeah
and
more
commentary
than
I
think
questions.
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
this
is
really
exciting
to
see.
I
think
you
know
many.
Many
of
us
have
memories,
not
so
vivid
as
as
mr
cronin
has
has
has
mentioned,
but
you
know
clearly,
our
our
seafront
is
is
really
important.
It's
really
wonderful
to
see
the
life
that
is,
that
has
been
breathed
into
it
over
the
last
number
of
years
and
and
certainly
even
during
the
pandemic.
C
I
think
you
know
the
use
of
out
of
outside
space,
and
some
of
the
concessions
that
have
that
have
been
left
along
the
along
the
front
is
really
important.
I
did
look
at
the
mcdonald,
the
the
the
consultants
yeah
consultants
report.
There
were
some
mad
options
in
there.
I
must
say
some
of
them
are,
I
think
there
to
be.
C
You
know
to
give
an
idea
what
could
be
done,
but
I
think
some
of
them
have
been
reported
in
the
media
as
being
more
on
the
table,
maybe
than
than
others,
but
it's
interesting
to
see
the
whole
suite
of
options
that
that
are
presented.
So
I
think
this
is
this
is
to
be
welcomed.
The
only
problem
I
have
is
in
reading
around
this
subject.
I
realized
that
I've
been
saying
lido
wrong,
all
my
life.
I
call
it
the
lido,
as
I'm
sure
many
other
people
do,
but
apparently
it's
the
lido.
C
So
I
don't
know
how
I'm
gonna
cope
with
that,
but
I
can
really
welcome
this.
I
think
it
fits
again
with
resident
priorities
feedback.
We
we
hear
on
the
door
and
I
think
that
you
know
it's
exciting
to
see
what
comes
next
but
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
report
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
the
proposals
that
come
forward
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
any
more
comments,
questions
from
colleagues
no
okay!
Well,
thank
you,
mr
cronin,
for
the
report
and
I
think,
as
a
couch,
the
crouch
has
said.
It's
very
much
welcome
in
that,
and
I
do
hear
what
you're
saying
about
mr
graham
and
the
work
he's
done.
I
know
he
spent
a
lot
of
time
pouring
over
the
reports
and
the
structural
reports
as
to
what
we
can
do
it,
and
you
know
that's
to
be
fair-
that
our
leader
or
lido.
D
However,
you
wish
to
go,
is
an
aging
lady
of
on
the
sea
front
there
and
does
need
to
be
protected
going
forward
for
the
future.
As
we
say,
it's
agreed
to
historic,
building
and
very
much
features
as
part
of
worthing's
heritage
there.
So
certainly
you
know
the
commitment
is
here
from
us
today
to
maintain
that
for
going
forward
and
indeed
to
understand
what
the
public
would
like
to
see
in
the
way
of
making
that
viable
going
forward.
D
Clearly,
as
you
say,
you
know
anything
that
comes
with
cost,
as
has
to
be
born
in
mind
as
to
not
only
the
substructure,
but
that
superstructure.
Can.
I
just
ask
one
question
just
for
my
piece
of
peace
of
mind.
Clearly,
we've
had
to
do
some
adjustments
within
the
leader
at
the
moment
because
of
the
weight
bearing
when
we
have
a
very
welcome
tenant
in
there
is
the
tenant
aware
of
the
work
they've
been
keeping
them
updated
as
to
where
we're
going.
T
Yes,
chairman,
through,
we
keep
in
contact
with
the
tenant
quite
regularly
on
on
the
site
earlier
well.
Last
year,
we
really
fully
engaged
them
and
told
them
the
issues
they're
aware
of
the
structural
issues
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we'd
move
off
a
number
of
heavy
items,
so
things
like
coin
machines,
that
kind
of
stuff
off
the
site,
they're
they're,
aware
of
their
responsibilities
on
the
site
as
well.
They
are
a
tenant.
They
have
a
certain
form
of
lease.
T
That
means
they
have
responsibilities
for
maintaining
parts
of
the
structure
and
it
really
is
quite
a
close
relationship
with
them,
they're
aware
of
their
responsibility
to
the
asset
and
aware
that
the
council
is
really
looking
at
it
quite
carefully
to
to
make
sure
that
it
has
a
future
and
it's
it's
quite
a
good
and
cooperative
relationship.
D
Just
just
looking
through
the
designs
that
obviously
were
sent
out,
I
think
they
came
out
separately
to
to
this.
But
for
me
it
is
very
much
about
how
we
understand
what
people
are
seeking
to
look
for
for
the
lido,
but
then
how
we
can
complement
that
with
that.
Go
that
part
of
it
yeah.
I
don't
think
the
days
of
dolphins
being
back
in
there
are
something
that
we'll
be
anticipating
going
for,
but
I
think,
as
you
said
in
the
opening
part
of
your
introduction,
is
around
supporting
the
lido
going
forward.
D
It
is
creating
that
opportunity
on
the
sea
front
and
it
is
about
saving
the
later
they
don't.
We
don't
want
to
see
it
to
fall
down,
so
certainly
it
is
a
destination
and
a
use
that
people
could
put
it
to,
and
I
think
we've
seen
those
examples,
whether
it's
at
bristol
or
or
on
the
reading
and
the
thames
at
reading
in
what
is
achievable-
and
you
know
that
may
will
be
something
that
that
we
can
work
towards
for
worthing.
D
So
very
much
welcome,
and
indeed
you
know
very
much
with
the
banner
of
going
knocking
on
the
door
of
the
heritage
lottery
fund
for
very
much
for
saving
our
lido
and
making
sure
that
we
can
do
something
with
it
would
be
good.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
The
report.
There
are
recommendations
here
for
colleagues
to
consider
item
two.
D
We
have
to
2.1
note
the
ongoing
structural
investigations
being
undertaken
for
the
substructure,
the
feasibility
report,
produced
by
marshall
and
kendon
on
concept
ideas.
Do
we
note
that
agree
that
officers
undertake
public
consultation
with
the
local
community
and
stakeholders
to
help
shape
the
council's
approach
for
protecting
and
renovating
the
facility,
including
exploring
how
this
could
be
done?
D
Great,
thank
you
and
that
a
further
joint
strategic
committee
be
presented
with
a
report
on
the
following
key
findings
from
mcdonald
and
historic
england.
Work
streams,
results
from
the
public
consultation,
a
financial
strategy
and
a
proposed
next
steps
agreed.
Okay,
thank
you
cronin
for
that,
and
we
look
forward
to
understanding
the
future
for
the
lido
or
the
lido,
okay
or
both
okay.
D
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
terry.
There
is
no
requirement
for
it
to
be
formally
presented,
but
it
is
there
for
consideration
by
this
committee
today.
D
So
members,
if
I
just
ask
you
to
look
again,
we
have
unnumbered
pages.
But
if
you
look
to
appendix
1
to
agenda
item
13
there,
councillor
cochrane
secretary
by
councillor,
smitherman
basically
is
submitting
a
proposal
to
create
a
worthy
football
forum
to
provide
better
support
for
the
town's
clubs
and
the
council
to
ensure
as
much
as
possible
is
done
for
the
local
game.
D
It
is
set
out
within
there
across
all
genders
and
age
profiles
and
inclusive
teams.
So
there's
no
be
presenting
any
questions,
difficult
or
comments
from
colleagues
here
tonight,
councillor
wait
and
then
councillor
crouch
and
then
councillor
mcdonald,
councillor.
P
I
was
a
bit
surprised
to
read
this
motion
because
noon.
Worthing
we've
got
three
football
clubs
worth
in
fc
worthy
united
working
town,
all
playing.
I
know
my
son
plays
in
the
southern
combination:
division,
one
which
comes
down
from
surrey
into
sussex
and
we
go
along
and
watch
and
I
mean
I
may
be
wrong,
but
I'm
I
was
surprised
to
see
that
he
thinks
that
as
it
says,
it's
hit
rock
bottom,
but
I'm
I
don't
see
that
when
I'm
out
and
about
them.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
chad,
I'm
going
to
say
what
I've
said
previously
when
we've
not
had
the
proposal.
Second.
Here
I
think
it's
disappointing.
I
think
it's
helpful
when
something
is
presented
at
full
council
for
one
or
other
or
both
of
the
folks
who
are
named
on
it
to
come
along
and
give
a
bit
more
context.
We've
all
read
the
the
appendix
it's
useful
for
for
presenters.
Proposing
second,
is
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
C
I
don't
have
any
objection,
I'm
definitely
not
an
expert
in
in
football
at
all,
as
as
many
of
you
would
assume
or
know,
but,
but
I
suppose
the
bit
for
me
is
around
the
role
for
the
local
authority
for
the
council
here,
and
I
think
you
know,
having
in
mind
also
platforms
approach
it
it's
whether
or
not
it
is
something
for
the
council
to
to
create
a
football
forum.
C
I
mean
I
would
suggest
that
any
person
or
group
of
as
in
councilweight
has
listed
all
of
the
clubs
that
that
are
clearly,
I
knew
already
to
create
a
forum.
I
just
wonder
whether
it
is
something
that
is
for
us
as
the
council
to
do
and
invest
time
in
whether
or
whether
it
should
be
you
know.
C
Sector-Led,
I
think
maybe
is
that
is
the
the
lingo,
but
I
don't
object
to
anything
in
principle
in
here,
but
it's
just
whether
or
not
it
is
something
for
the
council
to
take
forward
or
whether
it
would
be
better
to
be
led
by
the
the
footballing
community
with
crossover
and
input
into
our
various
departments,
well-being
and
sports
and
parks,
etc.
That's
my
only
comment
on
this.
Thank
you.
Jen
thank.
Q
Q
There's
world
in
town,
there's,
worlding,
dynamos,
worthing,
united,
worldly
miners,
sorry
senior
football
is
the
problem
and
it
is
actually
in
a
massive
decline
and
when
I
used
to
play
in
the
brighton
league,
there
were
about
15
leagues.
At
that
time
there
was
senior
football
or,
as
in
county
level,
all
the
way
down
to
junior
football
and
the
and
worthing
had
its
own
league
as
well.
Q
The
two
have
combined
now
and
I
think
they
make
a
total
of
six
divisions
as
opposed
to
what
was
about
22
divisions
and
it's
a
lack
of
people
playing
people
are
not
continuing
from
youth
football
into
adulthood,
and
I
think
that
would
help
with
health
and
wellbeing
as
well.
If
people
were
committed
to
doing
something,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
answer
to
that
is,
and
that's
why
I
think
this
needs
more
work
done.
So
I
would
recommend
that
we
take
part
2-1
as
to
find
out
why
we
have
two
football
pitches
in
northbrook.
Q
Quite
often
they're
not
used
in
northbrook
park
and
there's
a
danger
that
they'll
be
used
for
something
else.
If
they're
not
used
for
football-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
councillor
crocker
has
brought
this
up.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Anybody
else.
Okay,
I
I
must
admit
when
I
first
read
this.
I
I
missed
the
part
about
the
senior
game
being
in.
There
was
very
much
thinking
around,
as
has
already
been
identified
by
councilman
around
the
flourishing
youth
football
that
does
exist
across
the
town
as
a
whole.
I
think
the
point
that
council
the
crouch
has
made
around.
Are
we
the
right
vehicle
for
this,
or
actually
should
that
be
the
sussex
fa
out
of
culver
road
or
indeed
the
football
foundation?
D
You
know
senior
gain
grows
by
the
grass
roots
growing
and
flourishing
upwards.
So
I
it's
I'm
not
so
sure
that
there
is
a
forum
for
us
there,
but
I
I
take
the
point
around
the
games
being
used.
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
uncomfortable
with
this
going
forward,
but
at
the
same
time,
I'm
not
so
sure
that
there
is
a
role
within
that.
D
Indeed,
when
we
look
at
that,
you
know,
the
council
of
cochran
has
already
identified
in
there
the
sussex
fa
being
as
part
of
any
forum,
which
is
indeed
what
their
role
is
to
be
established.
So.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
mindful
that
we've
got
a
health
and
wellbeing
team
and
we've
looked
at
the
health
and
well-being
paper
today,
but
there's
also
prescription
for
health.
There
are
lots
of
sort
of
government-funded
initiatives
as
well.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
just
examine
if
it
is
appropriate
and
then
if
it
is
appropriate,
who
would
be
the
best
people
to
be
running
it.
D
D
Is
it
at
the
senior
level
or
is
it
at
the
grassroots
level
to
supporting
that
development,
and
particularly
that
development
across
all
the
genders
and
including
inclusivity
teams
would
be
really
good.
So
if,
if
I'm
happy
to
propose
that,
would
somebody
be
happy
to
second
or
cancel
them
as
a
second?
Thank
you
a
show
of
hands
of
people
in
supportive
of
it.
Okay.
D
If,
therefore,
if
we
can
ask
for
a
report
to
come
back
for
us,
perhaps
a
briefing
note
would
be
even
more
wonderful
just
to
understand
what
the
opportunities
would
be
for
us,
if,
indeed-
or
in
you
know,
it
may
well
be-
I
think,
if
we
go
and
speak
to
the
sussex
county
fa,
I
think
they
will
say
that
they're
already
doing
a
significant
part
of
this
work.
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
So
that's
tasks
there
agenda
item
14
is
a
notice
on
motion
referred
from
the
council.
It
was
a
motion
received
from
council,
john
rosa
and
secondly,
by
councillor
emma
taylor,
councillor
rosa
you're,
here
with
us
this
evening.
Would
you
like
to
come
forward
to
the
microphone
and
present
your
motion.
W
W
Paying
a
small
premium
for
our
goods
can
not
only
help
overcome
this
rising
inequality
by
giving
workers
a
fair
wage
for
a
fair
day's
work.
It
can
also
help
combat
the
climate
emergency
by
enabling
the
producers
to
work
more
efficiently
and
effectively,
as
well
as
that.
It
also
helps
to
combat
the
evil
of
modern
slavery.
W
Worthing
has
a
long
association
with
the
fair
trade
movement
and
became
a
fair
trade
town
in
2005
and
continuing
this
association
can
only
enhance
the
reputation
of
businesses
in
worthing
and
the
town
itself
as
councillors.
I
believe
we
have
a
duty
to
not
only
embrace
the
principles
of
the
fair
trade
movement
in
our
procurement
of
goods
and
services,
but
also
to
take
a
leading
role
in
spreading
and
informing
people
about
them
in
worthing,
so
that
they
can
engage
with
them
and
help
create
a
fairer,
more
equitable
and
greener
world.
Thank
you.
D
D
J
If
it's
2005,
we
stated
our
commitment:
was
there
a
time
limit
on
that?
Or
was
it
accepted
that
that
was
an
ongoing
commitment,
because
if
it
was
an
ongoing
commitment,
then
the
first
bullet
point
under
the
risk
council
resolves
to
is
redundant.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
That's
a
it's!
It's
noted
any
other
comments
from
people
counselor
crouch.
C
Yeah
thank
you,
chair
and
thank
you.
Councillor
rose
for
coming
along
and
presenting
the
promotion.
I
think
you
know
clearly
there's
a
huge
amount
of
detail
set
out
as
to
why
fair
trade
is
a
good
thing,
and
you
know
I
agree
clearly
that
that
it
is
so
in
in
principle.
You
know,
I
think
we
possibly
need
a
little
bit
more
detail
as
to
what
it
looks
like
as
in
what
what
are
the
actual
actions
and
outputs
and
measures
etc.
C
The
only
thing
I
just
would
want
inserted
into
any
well,
I
would
be
interested
to
ensure
any
policy
direction
is
carefully
considered,
because
I
am
aware
that
some
local
authority
areas
get
a
little
bit
carried
away
with
particular
areas
like
this,
to
the
extent
that
it
can
end
up
excluding
non-fair
trade
products
and,
obviously,
clearly
not
everyone
in
our
community
is
in
a
position
to
pay
a
premium
for
products,
so
I
think,
as
part
of
the
mix
and
as
part
of
any
kind
of
work
that
flows
from
this
I'd
be
very
keen
to
ensure
that
this
is
and
I'm
sure
it
is
intended
to
be
a
choice-based
process.
C
What
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
is
sort
of
suggestions
that
that
only
fair
trade
products
could
be
you
know,
used
at
council
events
on
council
land,
etc.
So
I
think,
as
long
as
there's
a
clear
choice
to
cover
all
income
levels.
I
think
you
know
the
proposals
are
reasonable,
but
I'll
be
interested
to
see
how
our
council
officers
feel
this
could
be
translated
into
work
that
that
is
delivered
if
that
is
an
appropriate
way
forward.
Thank
you,
chair.
D
Thank
you,
council
approach,
any
more
comments.
No,
I
think
it's
just
picking
up
on
the
point
made
by
councillor
crouch
and
did
cap
crap,
crouch
and
indeed
challenged
by
council.
I'm
sorry
he's
crouching
through
what
what
is
missing
here
is
we
took
that
status
in
2005,
but
what
the
proposal
was
missing
really
is
an
understanding
of
what
the
impact's
been
in
the
town.
D
How
many
businesses
in
our
town
are
currently
fair
trade,
compliant
how
many
trade
under
that
banter
and
what
has
been
the
benefits
to
worthing
as
a
whole,
because
I
think,
if
I'm
honest,
the
only
bit
that
I
see
that
says
worthy
is
a
fair
trade
town
is
one
two
three
four
entrance
signs
as
we
come
into
the
borough
of
worthing,
so
I
think
we
need
to
explore
that
and
what
the
impact
of
that
will
be,
and
indeed
in
the
proposals,
what
the
cost
implications
would
be
because,
as
councillor
crouch
has
said,
it
will
impose
or
could
risk
posing
restrictions.
D
I
think
when
we
sub,
we
say
it
says
in
here-
support
fair
trade
schools.
Fair
trade
often
relates
to
often
normally
around
food
items
where
most
schools
don't
buy
their
own
food
items,
they're
done
by
other
commercial
companies
so
immediately
those
contracts
are
outside
of
the
control
of
those
schools
and
indeed
outside
of
the
remit
of
this
borough
council,
but
nonetheless,
it
is
something
that
the
borough
has
previously
launched
and
received
that
status.
D
I
think
it's
fair
that
we
go
back
and
revisit
that
to
see
if
it
is
still
appropriate
and
indeed
how
we
would
achieve
that.
So
again,
I'm
quite
happy
to
propose
that
we
receive
a
report
from
the
officers
in
due
course
around
how
fair
trade
could
benefit
worthing
and
indeed,
maybe
councillor
rosa.
You
could
take
that
back
into
your
working
group
with
the
town
centre
initiative
to
understand,
maybe
from
their
perspective.
D
Indeed,
how
fair
trade
would
benefit
them
that
may
help
with
some
of
that
parts
of
it.
So
members,
I'm
quite
happy
that
we
we
asked
a
report.
Are
people
comfortable
with
that
yep?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
going
on
then
to
agenda
item
15.
We
have
a
referral
of
a
motion
on
notice
on
this
occasion.
It's
from
councillor
cathy
glenn
davis
and
circuited
by
councillor
vicki
wells,
councillor,
glynn
davis.
Would
you
come
to
the
microphone.
H
Good
evening,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
listening
to
my
motion
on
3rd
of
february
this
year,
the
chancellor
announced
a
200
pound
rebate
on
the
cost
of
energy
for
each
household
in
the
country.
H
I've
been
contacted
by
a
resident
incensed
at
what
they
see
as
an
underhand
ploy
to
put
their
household
in
debt
to
the
government.
A
petition
has
been
created
as
follows
alone,
towards
the
increase
in
she
sees
it
as
a
loan.
A
loan
towards
the
increase
in
fuel
prices
will
put
me
in
debt
to
this
government.
H
H
H
I
call
upon
call
upon
this
council
to
reject
the
chancellor's
proposal
and
refuse
to
pay
the
150
pound
council
tax
rebate
unless
funds
are
forthcoming
from
the
exchequer
to
cover
it.
I
also
call
upon
the
council
to
ask
the
chancellor
to
reconsider
the
energy
loan
scheme
and
instead
place
a
tax
upon
energy
companies
to
subsidise
energy
to
those
most
in
need
and
place
a
cap
on
energy
costs
in
this
country,
and
if,
at
the
council,
we
say
that
this
action
is
untenable.
D
D
U
I
don't
believe
we're
in
a
position
to
this
is
central
government
money
that's
passed
through
us
and
I
don't
believe
we're
in
a
position
to
refuse
it
I'll
defer
to
mrs
thomas.
If
she
has
any
other
information,
it's
thomas.
G
No,
I
agree
with
mr
bro
that
we
aren't
in
a
position
to
refuse
payment
of
that
150
pound.
Also,
I
would
point
at
the
200
pound
is
actually
a
different
rebate.
G
There
is
a
rebate
scheme
going
through
the
actual
energy
companies.
The
150
is
not
repayable,
that
that
is
not
repaired
by
residents,
whereas
200
pounds
that
the
energy
companies
are
doing
will
be
recovered
over
the
next
the
following
four
years.
I
think
it's
50
pounds.
Okay,
each
year.
D
C
Yeah,
thank
you
chair
this
motion
is,
is
is
redundant.
I
think
it
is
fair
to
say
I
understand,
and
actually
I
can't
see
you
cancel,
but
I
I
do
have
a
very
limited
amount
of
sympathy
with
the
concept
of
the
debt
point.
There
is
something
that
I
was
a
little
bit
uneasy
with
in
terms
of
reconciling
the
concept
of
here
is
something
but
it
is.
It
is
a
debt
that
we're
giving
you,
and
I
think
there
is
something
there
is
something
in
that.
C
However,
there
is
also
the
the
the
point
about.
How
do
you
address
the
short-term
issue,
and
I
think
the
government
for
for
right
or
wrong
have
decided
that
the
the
way
to
do
that
is
to
to
have
this
this
200-pound
rebate
and
spread
that
repayment
over
over
a
number
of
years
that
is
fundamentally
different
to,
and
I
think
it's
confusing
actually
to
the
150
pound
council
tax
rebate
and
it's
interesting
to
hear
that
we're
not
in
a
position
to
reject
it.
C
But
I
don't
think
any
of
our
residents
in
banzai
to
d
would
would
welcome
us
approving
a
motion
that
would
increase
their
council
tax
bill
by
an
amount.
That's
already
been
stated
that
it's
going
to
be
reduced
by
I.
Obviously
I
can't
support
this
motion,
which
I
find
confusing
and
also
redundant
in
terms
of
timeline,
but
I
think
it's
really
quite
concerning
that.
C
We've
got
emotion
being
put
forward,
that
is
from
from
from
the
members
of
the
labour
party
that
is
looking
to
take
money,
central
government
money
out
of
the
pockets
of
our
residents.
That's
really
quite
odd,
so
I
can't
support
it.
I
think
it's
redundant
in
terms
of
where,
where
we
are
in
the
the
billing
cycle-
and
it
sounds
like
we
wouldn't
even
be
able
to
deliver
the
the
the
stated
objective
of
rejecting
money
for
our
residents,
so
I
can't
support
it
and
it's
a
bit
weird.
If
you
ask
me.
J
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
it
would
be
necessary
to
point
out
at
this
moment
that
revenues
and
benefits
have
had
constant
change
for
two
years.
They've
had
grants
they've
had
this
they've
had
that
that
they've
had
to
deal
with
and
get
out
to
people
and
they've
got
it
out
very
quickly.
They're
now,
faced
with
this
next
lot
of
150,
the
cost
to
the
council
of
readjusting
bills
again
would
be
astronomical.
D
Thank
you
any
other
comments
from
councillors.
Okay,
councillor
davis,
thank
you
for
the
motion.
I
think
in
reality,
from
the
advice,
certainly
we've
information
we've
had
from
mr
brewer
and
miss
thomas
is
what
you're
actually
asking
us
to
do
is
probably
we
can't
do
and
probably
would
be
illegal
to
actually
refuse
the
money
to
do
that.
So
as
a
counsellor,
you
cannot
ask
your
counsel
to
do
an
act.
That's
illegal,
so
no
you've
got
no
right
of
reply.
I'm
sorry,
don't
turn
the
microphone
on.
D
You've
got
no
right
to
ask
council
to
do
an
act,
that's
illegal,
so
I'm
afraid.
Even
on
that
basis,
I
can't
support
this
motion
in
that
respect,
and
indeed,
you'll
be
taking
money
from
other
people
who
are
on
lower
bands,
maybe
not
as
in
the
situation
of
this
resident,
you
speak
of
who
actually
do
welcome
that
150
pound
reduction
on
their
council
tax
debt
rebate.
So
certainly
I
can't
support
this
today,
so
I'm
happy
to
propose
that
we
reject
this
motion.
D
Do
I
have
a
seconder
cancer
crouch,
and
can
I
ask
for
a
show
of
hands
in
support
of
that?
Thank
you
on
that
basis.
That
motion
is
rejected.
Thank
you.
D
We're
now
moving
to
agenda
item
16,
which
is
a
referral
motion
again
to
the
borough
council
from
councillor
crouch
and
seconded
by
councillor
thorpe.
I
think
probably
you
need
to
extract
yourself
at
this
point.
Then
don't
you
or
you're
going
to
speak
to
it,
but
you
can't
sit.
We
can
speak
to
it,
but
you
can't
contribute
to
it.
C
Thank
you.
I
I
you
know,
I
the
motions
on
notice
thing:
I've
got
my
own
personal
opinions
on
it
and
you
know
I
think
it's
a
way
for
introducing
you
know
certain
matters
for
consideration
that
are
urgent.
C
I'm
really
glad
to
be
able
to
bring
this
motion
I'll
notice
actually,
and
I
think
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
say
if
if
she's
still
here
is,
is
to
thank
counselor
silman,
although
not
noted
not
mentioned
in
my
motion,
she
did
help
in
the
in
the
drafting
and
we
we
did
discuss
and
forgive
me
for
naming
you
counselor,
but
whether
it
could
be
a
a
three
person
sort
of
a
double
seconding
and
with
that
wasn't
allowed.
C
But
councillor
solomon
was
very,
very
helpful
and
I'd
like
to
pay
tribute
to
her
and
to
council
thought.
So
this
is
a
truly
cross-party
motion.
I
won't
read
it
out,
but
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
a
lot
of
focus
is
placed
on
sustainability
and
I
think
most
people
understand
what
that
means.
It's
it's.
You
know
decarbonization,
it's
ev,
it's
photovoltaic
cells,
etc,
but
actually
something
that's
maybe
less
sexy
is.
C
Is
the
ecological
side
of
things
you
know
the
the
bugs
and
the
birds
and
the
bees
and
all
of
this
kind
of
stuff,
and-
and
I
was
really
inspired
by
by
the
leader
of
the
conservative
group
over
in
brighton
council-
I
think
it's
that
name
for
nemeth
in
terms
of
his
motion
on
on
ecological
enhancement
features
such
as
b
bricks
and
swift
boxes,
and
actually
it's
a
relatively
small,
but
I
think
important
consideration
that
I
think
we
can
and
should
be
building
into
our
our
local,
our
local
building
policies
or
planning
policies
for
the
reason
set
out
in
the
motion.
C
So
I
don't
have
a
huge
amount
more
to
say
other
than
I
think
it's
really
important.
When,
when
you
look
at
a
site,
you
can
take
a
brownfield
town
center
site
that
has
you
know
it
may
already
be
ecologically
limited.
You
can
replace
you
know.
Heating
systems
and
lighting
systems
with
very
energy,
efficient,
sustainable
features,
but
actually
even
some
of
the
dullest
town
center
sites
do
have
an
ecological
consideration
that
I
think
is
currently
being
being
missed.
So
I
would
be
really.
C
I
hope
that
the
the
committee
will
support
the
the
request
and
for
for
this
to
be
considered
as
a
policy,
I
think
it's
a
small,
a
small
consideration
and
clearly
it
would
need
to
be
adjusted
based
on
the
size
of
developments
etc.
C
But,
but
I
think
this
is
really
a
small
but
meaningful
change
to
to
to
our
policies
that
could
really
enhance
habitat
for
for
all
those
pollinators
for
rare
species,
and
that
could
have
a
significant,
as
you
can
see,
significant
impact
on
the
value
added
in
terms
of
uk
agriculture.
I'll
leave
it
there
and
but
thank
the
committee
for
its
consideration
and
recuse
myself
from
voting.
D
Thank
you,
councillor
coach,
maybe,
mr
terry,
within
the
minutes
we
can
have
proposed
by
councillor
crouch,
secondly,
by
council
thought
and
supported
by
councillor
silman,
to
demonstrate
the
support
that
she
has
given
to
this
within
that.
Would
you
be
happy
with
that?
Council
sealman?
Thank
you.
I'm
glad
colleague,
city
comments,
council
of
mercer.
J
My
son
has
just
moved
into
a
new
house
and
he's
got
a
b
brick
and
the
builders
just
automatically
built
one
in,
and
it's
like
an
ordinary
sized
brick,
so
actually
the
cost
and
the
outlay,
and
it
doesn't
deter
from
the
appearance
of
the
building
at
all,
but
it
definitely
has
positive
effects.
I
had
to
host
jermaine
greer
a
few
years
ago
when
she
came
to
talk
about
the
women
of
port.
No,
what
was
that
the
american
air
base
not
portland
all
right?
J
Q
I've
got
to
top
that
I'm
sorry,
I'm
very,
very,
very
quick,
I'd,
never
heard,
b
bricks
before
and
I've
now
researched
them
and
and
swift
boxes
as
well,
never
heard
of
those
and
glad
this
has
been
brought
to
us,
and
I
totally
support
this
because
I'm
not
scared
of
bees
and
I
really
think
they're
a
worthwhile
exercise.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
this
to
us.
D
Okay,
we
seem
to
have
support
in
the
room,
so
if
I
propose
that
we
support
this
motion,
that
it
goes
away
to
be
asked
of
our
colleagues
for
the
report
to
come
back
as
to
how
we
can
do
that
within
the
planning
terms,
somebody
happy
second,
that's
council
of
mercer
and
an
agreement
from
everybody.
Okay,
so
again
we
send
that
away
and
we're
asked
a
report
to
come
back
on
the
basis
of
that's
the
end
of
item
number
16.,
that's
the
end
of
the
agenda.