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A
The
audio
licensing
committee
on
the
20th
of
june
at
seven
o'clock-
we've
only
got
one
agenda
item
on
here
tonight.
I'm
just
going
to
hand
you
over
to
our
legal
to
read
out
the
read
out
the
public
announcements.
B
There
is
no
firearm
alarm
plan
during
this
meeting.
Therefore,
if
the
fire
alarm
sounds,
please
leave
by
the
nearest
exit
and
go
to
the
assembly
point,
do
not
stop
to
collect
belongings
and
do
not
use
the
lift.
The
assembly
point
is
the
car
park
in
the
showroom
center.
Please
remain
at
the
assembly
point
until
advised
it's
safe
to
return
to
the
building.
Any
persons
with
mobility
issues
must
head
to
the
nearest
stairwell
and
await
further
instructions.
A
Thank
you,
decorations
of
interest,
substitute
members.
A
D
E
I
was
just
going
to
explain
is
that
on
hello
yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
explain
while
due
to
saying
she's
substituting
she
actually
will
be
the
permanent
member.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
public
question
time.
We
got
any
members
of
the
public.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything?
A
Okay,
lovely
minutes
from
the
the
the
previous
meeting,
which
was
on
the
22nd
march?
Can
I
mark
them
down
as
a
true
account,
yeah
lovely
items
raised
under
urgent,
urgent
provision,
lovely
constitutional
provisions
relating
to
the
council's
licensing
function
on
page
three
and
page
ten.
A
Three
to
ten
ed
you're
here
to
present
the
present
the
the
report
in
front
of
me.
F
F
F
The
committee
has
power
to
convene
a
subcommittee
comprising
of
three
elected
members,
and
the
subcommittee
only
have
the
power
to
do
with
specific
applications
and
reviews
relation
to
hackney,
carriage
and
private
hire
vehicles,
I.e.
They
do
not
hear
individual
applications
or
reviews
relating
to
premises
or
gambling
matters.
F
It's
considered
a
good
practice
to
maintain
political
impartiality
when
they
are
together.
It's
considered
there
should
be
no
requirement
for
subcommittees
of
licensing
committees
to
be
politically
balanced,
although,
where
possible
officers
do
try
to
ensure
that
happens,.
F
The
council
has
a
set
of
licensing
procedure,
rules
which
is
proposed
to
be
included
as
part
of
the
new
constitution,
and
the
council
does
allow
discretion
for
the
dispute
for
the
procedure
rules
for
the
chair
to
amend
those
rules.
If
there
should
be
a
need
to
do
so
on.
The
principles
of
natural
justice
continues
to
be
complied
with.
F
F
F
It's
proposed
that
the
courtroom
would
be
increased
from
three
to
four
members
to
reflect
a
third
of
the
membership,
and
it's
proposed
that
the
quorum
for
subcommittees
would
be
kept
at
three.
D
E
Thank
you
very
much
ed.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
so
can
I
just
clarify.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
It's
really
helpful.
Can
I
just
clarify
that
on
page
five
here,
when
you
talk
about
where
we
meet
with
the
full
committee,
it's
more
sort
of
bigger
items
rather
than
individual
reviews
or
applications,
so
anything
that
would
correspond
to
those
acts
of
2003
and
2005
noted
here.
F
Thank
you
guys.
It's
going
to
be
mainly
your
main
policy
decisions,
the
bigger
governance
arrangements
of
the
council
in
terms
of
licensing
and
how
it
is
looked
after.
So
if
we
were
to
bring
in
front
of
you
a
change
to
the
licensing
act,
policy,
guidance
for
example,
then
you
would
make
a
decision
upon
that.
F
What
it
wouldn't
do
is
the
subcommittee
would
look
at
individual
applications
so
whether
they
be
premises
or
individuals,
so
for
a
personal
license
or
for
a
hackney
carriage
license
or
private
hire
license
individual
applications
either
for
a
premises
or
a
person
will
be
seen
by
the
subcommittee.
All
other
matters
would
be
dealt
with
by
the
full
committee.
E
F
So
the
handbook
is,
in
effect,
an
informal
policy,
so
it
is,
it
is
a
policy
document
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
so
the
handbook
would
come
to
a
full
committee.
A
Hey
in
3.5,
you
mentioned
that
the
subcommittee
being
made
up
of
three
members
now
most
of
the
meetings
that
we
have
with
subcommittees.
It's
normally
the
chair
vice
chair
and
one
other.
In
our
case,
it
wouldn't
be
political,
politically
balanced,.
F
So
I
think,
as
part
of
that
and
chris
may
be
able
to
help
me
out
with
this,
but
I
would
imagine
that
the
subcommittees
may
not
necessarily
if
you
were
available
then
yes
would
be
the
chair,
but
then
other
members
will
be
chosen
also,
basically
from
the
list
to
see
who
else
would
be
able
to
attend.
A
Right,
so
it
could
be
a
case
that
I
could
do
one
sudden
committee
and
then
v
could
do
the
next
one,
and
I
would
be
I'll
be
absent
from
that
committee.
G
Or
yeah
yeah
thanks
chair,
the
the
way
that
the
subcommittees
are
selected
are
set
out
in
the
procedure,
rules
which
is
in
another
document,
but
basically
the
chair
would
normally
chair
a
subcommittee
in
their
in
their
absence.
The
vice
chair
and
the
other
members
are
selected
from
the
list
alphabetically,
if
someone's
not
available,
we
move
to
the
next
person
alphabetically
on
the
list
until
I
can
select
three
members.
D
Thank
you
chairman.
It's
just
regard
on
3.7,
I'm
just
a
bit
concerned,
then
I'll.
Imagine
there's
going
to
be
more
of
these
small
committee
meetings
and
my
sort
of
concern
is
that
I
can,
while
see
people
seriously
unable
to
attend
on
the
day.
To
be
quite
an
honest,
you
know
getting
someone
to
substitute.
We
could
well
be
difficult
on
that
day
doing
it.
My
only
thought
was:
is
it
possible
to
make
that
subcommittee
four
members?
D
G
F
Yes
in
previous
authorities,
where
I've
worked,
it's
usually
been
the
case
where
they'd
have
three
members
with
a
reserve
and
that
reserve
member
would
be
called
if
they
were
required.
So
in
effect,
you
would
appoint
four
members
to
be
ready
to
attend
with
three
being
the
substantive
number
of
members.
If,
for
whatever
reason,
travel
arrangement
sickness,
one
of
those
was
able
unable
to
attend,
then
that
reserve
would
be
called
to
attend.
The
committee.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
mr
hill
for
his
kind
replies
to
my
questions,
which
were
some
of
these
things
have
already
been
added
about
how
we
select
the
people
and
how
it's
some
made
to
be
fair.
I
just
wanted
to
know
why
did
this
piece
of
work
come
about?
It
looks
very
sensible
to
me.
It
makes
a
lot
of
you
know
good
points,
but
where
was
the
impetus
to
get
it
going.
F
F
There's
always
been
a
full
committee
and
subcommittee
membership,
and
that
is
when,
when
the
licensing
act
2003
came
about,
it
was
decided
that
time
by
district
council
to
run
it
a
particular
way
because
there
was
no
statutory
guidelines
in
terms
of
exactly
how
you
should
go
about
these
things
and
the
same
when
we
had
the
private
hire
and
hackney
carriage
licensing
authorities
interpret
them
in
different
ways.
But
now
we've
had
the
licensing
act
of
2005
and
sorry
2003
and
the
gambling
act
2005
out
for
over
15
years.
C
Thank
you.
I
think
it
makes
complete
sense
what
you've
written
here.
The
one
thing
I
wonder
about
is:
if
we
have
four
members
invited
to
one
of
the
subcommittees,
and
then
we
say
to
the
fourth
one
that
comes
in
go
home.
C
C
I
mean
I
wonder
if
we
ought
to
say
the
subcommittee
should
be
four
members
and
be
quarant
at
three
and
then,
if
somebody
fails
to
turn
up,
it
makes
much
more
sense
to
do
that,
because
otherwise,
a
committee
member
will
have
prepared
fully
for
the
meeting
and
then
found
at
some
point
during
that
day
that
they
aren't
required,
and
they
might
quite
like
the
idea
of
coming
to
a
meeting,
because
that's
why
we
are
counsellors.
C
G
F
E
E
I
know,
and
so
I
absolutely
agree
that
I
I
think
the
four
would
be
a
good
step
forward
for
exactly
the
reasons
that
council
mcgregor
knows,
but
also
I
have
a
slight
reservation
about
the
capacity
to
rotate
around
those
who
aren't
on
a
chair
or
a
vice
chair
position,
because
actually
there's
quite
a
lot
of
us-
and
actually
I
mean
first
question-
is
when
chosen
alphabetically.
Does
that
then
go
to
the
next?
The
next
person
on
the
next
pick
yeah,
okay
and
okay?
E
I
just
can't
help
thinking
that
there
could
be
a
situation
you
could
get
through
a
year
and
actually
not
have
sat
on
a
subcommittee
as
a
member,
and
I
suppose
I
just
think
at
four
you've
got
that
more
potential
to
do
to
do
so.
Yeah,
yeah,
definitely
and
also
you're,
putting
the
same
knowledge
in
all
of
the
same
people's
hands
and
they're.
Not
it's
not
a
breadth
of
experience
across
all
of
us.
You
know
to
make
those
decisions,
so
that
would
be
my
point
really
and
I
would
support.
E
I
would
just
ask
really
strongly-
and
I
know
this
does
happen,
but
I
would
ask
for
there
to
be
a
good
political
balance
on
that
subcommittee
if
we
could
please
because
otherwise,
I
just
don't
think
that's
democracy
at
play.
Really,
I
know
there's
an
option
to
do
so,
but
I
would
ask
face
strongly
for
that
to
happen.
Thanks.
G
Chair
we
seek
to
do
that
at
every
occasion.
I
it's
only
in
very
rare
circumstances,
due
to
availability
that
that
that
wouldn't
be,
that
wouldn't
happen,
but
we've
been
using
subcommittees
in
worthing,
not
personally
for
the
past
15
years,
I
can
only
think
of
one
occasion
where
there
hasn't
been
political
balance
due
to
availability.
Actually,
in
that
case,
I
think
it
was
due
to
interests
in
the
matter.
A
The
proposal
in
front
of
us
we've
discussed
it.
A
The
recommendations
is,
is
is
to
approve
the
recommendation
that
ed's
put
in
front
of
us.
So
then
it
goes
on
to
joints
drastic
joint
government,
where
it
goes
next.
G
Chair,
you
may
be
aware
that
there's
a
wider
constitution
review
and
it
may
be
that
this
gets
put
into
the
constitution
with
you
with
those
other
changes
so
and
that's
happening
between
now
and
I
believe
there'll
be
a
report
going
to
joint
governance
in
september
onto
the
october
council.
Meeting
right.
A
A
Can
we
have
a
a
nomination
for
the
the
agenda
item
in
front
of
us
and
can
we
have
a
second?
A
Think
that's
unanimous
all
right!
Thank
you
very
much.
There's
nothing
else
on
the
agenda
so
close.
The
meeting
at
20
past
is
it
20
past
7,
20,
past
7.