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A
Welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
joint
overview
and
security
committee
of
ada
and
worthing
councils,
I
am
charles
james
councillor,
charles
james,
and
I
shall
be
chairing
this
meeting
with
the
vice
chairman,
richard
noeck.
We
also
have
with
us
this
evening,
the
chairman
and
vice
chairman
of
ada's
joint
overview
and
scrutiny
committee
respectively,
councillor
loda
and
councillor
bridges.
Before
we
commence,
I
have
to
read
this
health
and
safety
and
fire
safety
announcement
to
you.
A
A
A
A
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest?
Please
from
members.
A
No
thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
substitute
members
this
evening?
A
Is
anybody
who
wishes
to
again
say
these
minutes
or
are
we
all
agreed.
A
A
A
So
we'll
go
straight
on
then
to
item
number
seven
review
of
the
delivery
of
platform
about
places
going
further
2020
to
2022,
with
the
an
interview
with
the
chief
executive.
Now
I
welcome
you,
dr
how
to
this
meeting
the
pleasure
news
to
see
you
and
the
floor
is
yours.
Thank
you.
C
C
So
I
suppose,
if,
if
I
can
just
to
give
a
sort
of
a
brief
overview,
I
think
initiative
platforms
for
our
places
has
been
our
strategy
for
some
years
now.
I
think
we
did
a
useful
update
of
it.
The
point
that
we're
in
the
cycle
now
is
to
look
at:
where
do
we
go
next
as
the
pla,
as
that
strategy
is
due
to
come
to
an
end
sort
of
later
this
year?
C
C
What
do
we
think
needs
an
honorable
piece
of
retiring
and
actually,
what
actually
has
emerged
for
us
over
the
last
few
years
that
we
think
we
need
to
give
additional
emphasis
to
one
of
the
things
I've
been
doing
is
talking
to
the
staff
about
that
and
there's
been
a
real,
clear
message
that
I've
heard
from
the
workforce,
which
is
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
whatever
comes
after
platforms
is
that
we've
got
a
really
clear
link
between
strategy
and
frontline
delivery.
C
And
it's
going
to
be
really
important,
that
all
of
the
staff
can
really
see
themselves
in
that
strategy
and
that,
while
we
would
continue
to
be
as
ambitious
as
both
councils
want
us
to
be,
we
also
need
to
demonstrate
that
that
ambition
is
rooted
in
really
solid
frontline
delivery
and
having
checked
that
with
members
as
well,
I
think
there's
a
general
agreement
about
that.
C
So
in
in
answering
some
of
these
questions,
and
also
in
in
preparing
the
last
update
report,
we've
started
to
think
very
much
about
what
that
transition
looks
like
into
a
new
strategy
and
how
we
might
land
that
in
the
organization.
C
So
I
think,
there's
a
massive
amount
of
valuable
work
that
that
the
team
has
been
doing
and
it's
lovely.
C
Actually,
some
of
these
questions
will
allow
us
to
showcase
that,
but
I
also
think
that
that
it's
really
important
to
remember
that
the
platform's
work
is
just
part
of
what
we
do
and
and
that
link
into
that
frontline
delivery
is
very
important
to
remember
as
well
and
happily
some
of
the
questions
I
think
allow
us
to
get
into
that
space,
which
is
how
do
we
make
sure
that
strategy
and
delivery
are
really
lined
up?
A
Can
we
I'm
gonna
do
these
in
rotation?
I
know
when
we
were
doing
this
by
zoom.
I
I
did
for
for
ease
of
questioning.
I
went
through
everyone's
questions
individually,
but
as
we're
now
face
to
face
back
in
the
old
ways,
I'm
going
to
do
this
on
a
rotation
basis.
So
the
first
question
I
have
comes
from
councillor
sally
smith.
Would
you
like
to
put
your
question
to
the
chief
executive?
Please.
D
D
C
Thanks
for
the
question,
I
think
that's
a
really
useful
question.
It's
one
we've
been
reflecting
on.
I
think.
Firstly,
I
think
strategic
planning
needs
to
be
considered
in
two
different
ways.
So
so
one
is
at
this
point
about
how
does
everybody
see
their
place
in
the
strategy
so
that,
whenever
you're
moving
in
a
direction
and
taking
decisions
that
you
know
where
you're
trying
to
get
to-
and
the
other
thing
is
strategic
planning
in
terms
of
how
are
you
ready
for
whatever
the
world
is
throwing
at
you?
C
And
I
think
you've
got
to
do
both
things.
If
you
want
your
immediate
crisis
response
to
be
something
that
is
still
in
the
spirit
of
what
you're
trying
to
achieve
as
an
organization,
and
I
think
largely
that
what
we
did
was,
but
I
think
that,
because
it
wasn't
always
clear
to
people
that
that
kind
of
like
how
that
link
works,
I
think
that
sometimes
the
decision
making
can
be
a
bit
muddled
because
that
clarity
of
direction
isn't
isn't
there
for
the
people.
C
Who
are
there
doing
the
do
in
in
in
the
in
the
immediate
kind
of
like
you
know,
sort
of
melee
of
that,
and
I
think
the
other
two
things
that
I
mean
you
know
sort
of
like
waves
of
variants
and
pandemic
have
have
told
us
is
firstly
that
the
the
work
that
we've
done
around
data
has
been
incredibly
important.
Is
that
one
of
the
things
that
allows
us
to
respond
quickly
and
in
the
right
way
and
in
the
right
place,
is
understanding
what
are
the?
What?
What
are
the
needs
in
the
communities?
C
What
are
the
assets
in
the
communities
as
well?
And
so
I
think
that,
and
you
can
see
that
lesson
that
we
learned
through
the
pandemic
that
we've
been
using
in
the
comp
funding.
You
can
see
that
in
the
healthy
aw
strategy,
for
example,
about
how
we're
now
going
on
to
address
health
inequalities.
C
C
So
I
think
we've
really
learned
that
I
think
it's
going
to
take
a
bit
of
time
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
are
as
resilient
as
I
would
hope
would
be,
and
I
have
to
say,
the
reason
that
we
were
able
to
respond
is
because
staff
dug
very
deep
into
their
own
personal
resilience
to
make
stuff
happen
over
the
course
of
the
pandemic.
C
But
I
think
that's
been
really
clear
that
the
last
point
would
be
that
the
reason
that
you
want
your
long-term
strategic
ambitions
and
your
short-term
strategic
response
to
be
aligned
is
that
you
can
speed
up
decision-making
like
that.
So
if
you,
if
you've,
got
clarity
about
those
two
things,
you
kind
of
know
what
you
want
to
do
and
you
can
leave
people
to
let
to
get
on
and
do
it
and
I
think
that's
the
other
thing.
C
What
one
last
thing
is
that
kind
of
like
a
master
class
in
how
you
interpret
kind
of
like
mixed
bits
of
guidance
and
things
like
that?
That's
the
other
thing
we've
learned
is
a
specialist
skill
yeah.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
E
Thank
you
chair.
I
was
disappointed
to
learn
that
funding
for
the
one-stop
employment
youth
hub
in
marine
place
was
due
to
cease
at
the
end
of
this
month.
E
C
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
mainly
because,
like
we
share
your
disappointment,
is
that
we
think
that
that
hub
was
working
brilliantly.
I
think
that
joe
who
was
running
it
was
doing
a
great
job.
We
had
some
really
positive
impacts
for
people
from
that,
so
we
we
shared
that
sadness.
C
You
know
this
is
the.
This
is
the
problem
when
you're
working
with
other
people's
money,
they
control
it.
So
we've
identified
the
dwp
flexible
support
fund
to
continue
that
work
and
we're
we've
made
an
application
so
and
we're
gonna.
Have
we
we're
gonna
have
to
see
where
we
get
to
with
dwp
on
that,
but
yeah.
We
share
the
sadness
and
are
enthusiastic
pursuing
pursuing
government
money
in
order
to
continue
the
work.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
platform,
three,
tackling
climate
change
and
supporting
our
natural
environment.
G
Paragraph
6.2
on
agenda
page
20
discusses
west
sussex
county
council's
ev
network
electric
vehicle
network,
enabling
truly
green
transport
will
be
a
key
deliverable
for
the
net
zero
vision,
and
I
welcome
the
opportunities
exploring
hydrogen
fuel
powered
transport
and
freight
vehicles
focusing
on
the
existing
conventional
vehicles
in
our
waste
fleet.
G
Does
the
waste
team's
research
also
include
the
ad
up
adaptation
through
conversion
using
fuel
cell
technology
and
or
the
gradual
replacement
of
the
of
the
current
vehicles
with
new
hydrogen-powered
alternatives,
and
if
it's,
the
latter,
because
they're
big
and
expensive
is,
is
there
a
waiting
list
as
well
for
these
vehicles.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
so
we
share
the
enthusiasm
for
how
do
you
decarbonize
that
wastefully?
C
It's
I
think
that
yeah
40
of
our
carbon
emissions,
so
it
would
be
a
really
substantial
win
if
we,
if
it
well,
when
we
managed
to
sort
that
out
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
a
waste,
a
fleet
strategy
that
looks
at
all
of
our
vehicles
over
a
10-year
horizon,
which
is
what's
realistic
in
terms
of
the
length
of
service
for
some
of
these
vehicles
and
how
we
might
get
the
you
know,
sort
of
get
the
financing
to
work
for
that,
so
that
that
sort
of
runs
alongside
the
ambitions
that
shaw
and
port
have
been
really
visible
about
around
how
they
might
put
in
a
green
hydrogen
production
facility
into
the
port
and-
and
there
could
be
a
beautiful
marrying
up
of
time
timelines
there
subject
to
you,
know,
sort
of
that
that
that
getting
off
the
ground
and
happening
and-
and
so
it
can't
be
not
dependent
on
that.
C
But
it
could
be
very
happy
coincidence.
So
so
what
we're
doing
is
we
we
intend
to?
There
are
various
different
vehicle
options
around
this
space.
So
the
intention
is
to
to
use
the
fact
that
we
are
seen
as
being
innovative
in
this
space
and
that
we
have
a
lot
of
confidence
from
the
from
from
people
who
are
invested
in
this
kind
of
thing
to
see
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
trying
different
vehicle
types
and
examining
it.
A
H
Thank
you
chair
good
evening,
dr
howe.
It's
impressive
and
pleasing
to
note
that
the
gigabit
fiber
programme
has
made
good
progress
and
now
reaches
32
000
homes.
What
provision
is
there
for
digital
inclusion?
Please
so,
specifically
for
families
on
low
incomes.
You
can't
even
afford
the
most
basic
internet
package
rather
than
you
know
the
expensive
gigabit
fiber
packages.
H
C
Yes,
I
think
I
think
it's
a
really
important
issue,
and
I
mean
particularly
when
you
start
to
to
speak
to
people
who
are
making
choices
about
minutes
on
their
phone
in
order
to
access
benefits
versus
you
know,
sort
of,
like
you
know,
other
incredibly
important
calls
on
their
cash.
So
I
think
digital
inclusion
has
got
sort
of
a
number
of
different
realms.
I
think
one
of
them
is
access
to
wi-fi
which
which,
while
we
will
continue
to
work
with
providers
in
terms
of
what
low-cost
packages
are.
C
Actually
it's
public
wi-fi
that
will
be
the
best
answer
to
that.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
our
public
realm
has
got
free
and
secure
wi-fi?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
there
are
warm
spaces
beyond
libraries
in
which
people
can
go
and
access
access,
the
internet?
And
the
second
thing
is:
advice-
is
access
to
devices
and
things
like
that
we've
got
there's
a
number
of.
C
There
are
a
number
of
schemes
around
adrian
worthing,
that's
trying
to
address
that
issue,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
be
something
that
increasingly
just
becomes
more
and
more
important.
I
think
the
other
one
that
people
don't
pick
up
on
around
digital
inclusion
is
digital
literacy
as
well.
C
So
if,
if
people
believe
that
facebook
is
the
internet,
they
are
not
well
served
by
technology,
and
I
think
there's
there's
something
here
as
well
about
how
we
make
sure
making
sure
that
we're
working
with
community
groups
to
give
really
strong
digital
literacy
skills
to
people
and
in
an
increasingly
I
think,
data
literacy
skills
to
people
so
that
once
they're
online
they're
actually
able
to
use
it
to
inform
themselves
and
to
gain
to
gain
what
they
really
need
from
this
beyond
the
fact
that
people
are
digitally
included,
save
hundreds
of
pounds
a
year,
you
know
on
their
bills,
you
know
on
their
basic
services,
and
so
it's
it
is
part
of
what
we
need
to
do
for
people
who
are
struggling.
I
I
Can
you
tell
a
little
bit
more
about
the
proposed
timeline
for
this
initiative
to
be
finally
up
and
running
to
what
extent-
and
this
is
a
linked
question
to
what
it's
then,
if
any
other
council
be
contributing
to
the
funding
of
this
initiative,
and
will
the
council
be
involved
in
the
support
of
the
initiative
moving
forward
in
any
way.
C
Thank
you
for
the
question
I
think
audi
audio
active
coming
to
the
town
is
absolutely
awesome.
Their
work
is
brilliant.
I
might
actually
defer
to
my
colleague,
who
probably
knows
the
timeline
for
the
coming
for
the
whole
thing
coming
on
stream.
So
we
may
ask
andy
if
he
doesn't
mind
answering
that
one
in
terms
of
funding,
and
it's
really
it's
in
terms
of
how
do
we
support
them?
C
So
so
you
know
so
we
have
supported
them
by
helping
them
find
the
premises
we've
been
through
various
iterations
and
we've
been
and,
as
I
say,
I
think
andy
deserves
a
massive
amount
of
the
credit
for
this,
because
he
and
his
team
have
done
a
lot
of
the
work
to
find
them
that
that
right,
spot
we've
also
helped
them
to
access
a
hundred
thousand
over
a
hundred
thousand.
I
think,
just
over
a
hundred
thousand
pounds
of
external
external
funding.
C
One
of
the
really
brilliant
things
about
audioactive
is
that
is
that
actually
they
they
don't
come
there
with
a
huge
financial
need,
because
actually
they
are
really
brilliant
at
accessing
income
themselves.
They
have
an
income
generating
model.
You
know
they
they
are.
They
are
a
social
enterprise
if
you
like,
rather
than
a
charity,
but
for
from
my
point
of
view-
and
I
know
from
the
rest
of
the
team-
is,
we
think,
they're
a
massive
asset
to
worthing
and
for
us
in
fact,
I'm
not
I'm.
C
I've
just
been
arranging
to
go
and
have
the
tour
and
go
and
catch
up
with
adam
is
that
for
us
it's
a
how.
How
do
we
best
support
them,
because
sometimes
it's
not
necessarily
the
money
that
they
need.
It
might
be
the
helping
them
find
the
premises
it
might
be
connecting
them
into
other
networks,
and
we
are
absolutely
there
for
that,
because
it's
such
a
it's
such
a
brilliant.
It's
such
a
brilliant
organization
to
have
attracted
to
worthing.
Absolutely,
do
you
mind
if
and
do
you
sorry
andy
putting
you
on
the
spot.
J
Oh,
no,
it's
absolutely
fine,
so
they
actually
launched
on
the
31st
of
march.
So
a
soft
launch.
So
a
couple
of
weeks
and
their
official
launch
is
on
the
7th
of
april.
So
we're
pretty
much
there.
K
Thank
you
chair
good
evening,
dr
howe.
My
question
relates
to
paragraphs
5.5
and
6.12
pages
13
and
17,
and
the
accompanying
paper
proactive
interventions
to
support
low
income
residents.
K
So
for
me
this
report
contains
very
little
information
as
to
how
the
system
identifies
who
needs
help,
and
I
know
we're
all
really
excited
about
getting
some
more
intelligent
data
around
all
the
you
know
all
these
sort
of
pieces,
but
it's
scant
on
detail
and,
more
worryingly,
no
one
on
universal
credits
currently
included
in
the
piece.
K
So
we've
potentially
got
thousands
of
households
on
universal
credit
who
are
being
plunged
into
hardship
and
no
current
means
of
identifying
and
proactively
targeting
interventions
towards
those
people
that
are
affected
and
whilst
we've
helped
164
people
and
that's
significant
for
each
of
those
people
and
a
great
start.
We
know
that
that's
dropping
the
ocean
of
the
numbers
of
people
suffering
hardship.
K
So
what
I
was
wondering
is,
you
know:
we've
got
models
where
we've
used,
we've
networked
into
the
community
to
reach
people
so
through,
for
example,
the
food
network
we've
networked
in
with
our
third
sector
organizations
to
reach
people,
and
would
you
consider
the
proactive
project
to
work
alongside
networks
of
communities
and
third
sector
organizations
to
scale
up
from
164
and
start
to
really
connect
with
those
people
on
universal
credit
and
tackle
the
enormous
scale
of
misery
and
our
hardship
our
residents
face?
Thank
you.
C
Yeah
thanks
the
question
and
actually
like
sort
of
that,
the
the
lack
of
visibility
around
the
universal
credit
data
has
been
a
frustration
to
us
as
well.
C
Happily,
is
that
the
organization
that
we
work
with
has
has
has
sorted
that
out
now,
so
we
will
be
over
the
course
of
of
april
have
that
visibility
of
the
universal
credit
data?
I
don't
expect
that
to
be.
I
don't.
I
think
that
that
might
take
a
little
time
to
shake
down,
because
it's
a
whole
new
data
set
it.
It
behaves
very
differently.
C
You
know
it's
it'll,
just
we'll
need
to
get
our
heads
around
it,
but
what
that
means
is
that
we
will
have
visibility
to
everybody
who
is
in
the
benefit
benefit
system
to
be
able
to
do.
Those
proactive
interventions
which
I
think
is,
is
super
important,
I'm
absolutely
delighted
so
so,
there's
and
and
I've
got
some
numbers
which
possibly
I'll
share
offline,
partly
because
I
think
I
might
keep
looking
with
my
glasses
and
can't
quite.
C
I'm
very
confusing
the
and
164
isn't
a
lot
of
people.
It's.
The
question
is
how
how
do
we
scale
it,
and
I
think
the
universal
credit
data
will
help
us
do
that.
I
think
it's
also.
C
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we've
learned
it's
it's
really
it's
really
difficult
when
you're,
when
you're,
when
you're
in
response
mode
as
an
organization
or
as
anything
to
get
into
that
proactive
space,
and
I
think
the
fact
that
we
are
now
seeing
sort
of
like
hundreds
moving
into
the
hundreds
rather
than
the
tens
of
people
in
that,
I
think,
is.
You
know
a
sign
that
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction.
C
But
the
thing
is
that
the
proactive,
proactive
can't
be
we
can't
be
it
on
our
own,
and
so,
as
you'll
have
seen
in
the
paper
from
january.
Is
that
one
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
is
using
the
companion
health
inequalities
data
to
be
able
to
help
us
understand
in
a
place-based
way,
combined
with
the
data
that
we
get
from
lyft?
Is
that
where,
if,
if
we're
not
targeting
people,
how
do
we
target
places
where
we
know
we've
got?
C
We've
got
significant
units
of
significant
need
and
potential
deprivation,
and
that's
where
we
think
that
the
relationships
with
the
community
groups
are
really
important,
because
that's
where
we
need
that
community-led
safety
net
to
be
operating
alongside
us.
So
so
the
intention
here
is
that
we
is
that
we
use
that
data
via
healthy
aw,
the
the
work
that
you've
seen
and
the
delivery
plan
that
got
that
got
landed
recently,
as
we
use
that
to
say,
go
knowing
where
we
need
to
go.
C
How
do
we
access
the
groups
that
are
in
place
and
work
with
them
around?
What
the
need
is
in
those
places,
the
the
other
thing
to
do
is
is,
and
in
fact
I've
got
a
an
I've
got.
C
You
know
water,
poverty,
fuel,
poverty,
there
are
other
people
in
this
mix
who
we
need
to
bring
and
to
share
and
to
use
the
same
data
set
with
and
so
yeah.
It's
still
it's
work
in
progress,
but
for
me-
and
this
is
why
I
mentioned
the
data
piece
at
the
beginning-
is-
is
knowing
knowing
where
we
need
to
be-
is
a
is
the
first
step
of
that.
K
Thank
you,
you
said
and
you're
right.
K
The
data
itself
won't
help
you
scale
up,
and
I
I
think
it's
great
that
you're
looking
at
how
you
can
identify
sort
of
patches
of
areas
where
there's
where
there's
need,
but
we
know
that
we
know
that
through
our
lsoas,
we
know
that
from
layers
and
layers
and
layers
of
other
data
that
we've
got
our
hands
on
already
it's
great
that
you're
thinking
of
using
other
organizations
and
tapping
into
organizations
like
southern
water
say
lloyd's
bank
people
like
that
would
be
fantastic,
but
why
what
I
want
to
know?
K
C
That's
a
big
question:
yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
really
big
question
and
I
think
that
you
know
you
know
so.
The
point
of
proactive
is
to
is
to
understand
the
data
to
be
living
with
the
data
so
that
we're
making
better
data
led
choices
and
to
redesign
the
way
that
we
work
so
that
we've
got
pathways
that
react
to
what
we're
seeing,
what
we're
seeing
and
we're
deliberately
trying
to
target
people
who
are
before
they
fall
into
that
not
coping
that.
No,
that
not
coping
state.
C
You
know,
I
think,
with
cost
of
living
crisis,
there
are
going
to
be
more
and
more
of
those
people,
so
so
what
so?
So
the
pro.
So
so
the
the
overall
approach
here
and
the
reason
why
I
keep
coming
back
to
the
data
is
that
I
think
the
only
way
that
we're
going
to
do
it
is
by
understanding
what's
going
on
so
so
understanding
that,
and
for
me,
I'm
a
social
scientist.
It's
not
just
it's
not
just
counting
things!
It's
about
the
stories!
It's
about
the
experience,
it's
about
understanding
the
place.
C
So
I
think
it's
it's
having
that
knowledge
so
that
you
can
make
good
and
fast
decisions
about
it
it's
about
showing
up
in
places
and
forming
the
relationship,
so
you
can
figure
out
together.
How
best
are
you
going
to
help
the
people
around
you?
If
we
were
going
to
go
back
to
kind
of
like
talking
about
the
pandemic?
It's
like
you,
know,
sort
of
it's
not
over.
C
If
we're
going
to
go
back
to
talking
about
the
pandemic,
what
we
saw
with
mutual
aid
is
is
that
people
will
help
each
other,
but
people
only
help
each
other
if
they
know
that
people
need
help,
and
partly
you
don't.
You
know
it's
an
awkward
conversation
to
go
to
your
neighbor,
who
you
don't
really
know
that
well
and
say:
I
need
something,
whereas
actually,
if
we
can
make
what's
needed
visible,
I
have
every
confidence
that
that,
actually
that
those
networks
in
place
will
work.
C
I've
just
come
from
lansing
from
the
fabric
building
there,
so
it
says
so,
which
is
where
we've
shown
up.
You
know
the
council
took
a
really
great
decision
to
buy
that
that
that
police
station
building
we've
shown
up
we're
working
with
a
provider,
who's,
brilliant
freedom,
works,
worthing,
based
business
and
and
we're
creating
that
place
where
we're
showing
up
and
that's
where
we
can
have
those
kind
of
conversations.
So
I
think
that's
that's
the
kind
of
model
the
whole
thing
has
to
work
together.
D
Do
thank
you,
chair
manager.
A
theme
running
through
the
strategic
programme
is
the
positive
impact
of
extra
funding
from
central
government.
For
example,
very
significant
resources
of
1.5
billion
have
been
secured
from
the
contain
outbreak
management
fund
and
the
rough
sleepers
initiative
going
forward.
What
is
being
put
in
place
to
mitigate
the
effects
of
this
extra
funding
coming
to
an
end.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah
so
so
yeah,
I
have
huge
enthusiasm
for
spending
other
people's
money
and
and
we
and
we
have
a
sadness
about
the
end
of
that.
So
so
there's
a
there's
a
number
of
different
there's,
a
number
of
different
things
in
the
in
the
in
the
answer
to
that.
So
some
of
that
money
was
was
sort
of
grant
funding
which
we
passed
straight
through
andy's
team,
again
doing
a
brilliant
job
of
getting.
You
know,
sort
of
funding
straight
out
to
the
business
community.
C
Similarly,
in
our
revs
and
ben's
team,
actually
passporting
grants
and
things
like
that,
directly
social
isolation,
social
isolation
grants
so
all
of
that
stuff.
Actually
we
were
using
our
you
know.
You
know
we
were
using
existing
infrastructure,
so
there's
no
impact
in
terms
of
us.
You
know
it's
just
that
that
money
ceased
to
exist
in
the
system
and
the
money
that
we
got
around
rough
sleeping
has
been.
You
know,
game
changing
and
then
the
number
the
last
rough
sleep
account
I
saw
was
no.
C
We
are
in
good
standing
with
the
with
the
department
and
we
are
making
multiple
bids
for
the
for
the
funding
that
that
will
be
replacing
that
comp
funding
and
amanda
eramy
and
her
team
do
brilliant
work
in
this,
and
I
have
I
have
to
say
if
again,
if
there's
a
good
thing
in
a
pandemic,
actually
there's
been
a
step
change
around
that
rough,
steeper,
sort
of
outcomes
and
funding,
which
is
absolutely
brilliant.
C
We're
stepping
down
the
work
around
environmental
health
because
there's
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
less
of
it,
and
that
does
mean.
Sadly,
we've
had
some
brilliant
people.
Who've
joined
the
team
during
this
period,
who,
who
won't
be
with
us
when
the
you
know
when
the
funding
is
transitioned
out,
but
where
I
think
we're
going
to
feel
the
difference
is
where
the?
C
Now
we'll
be
able
to
continue
that
work,
because
that's
the
strategy
of
the
council
already
you
can
see
that
in
the
healthy
aw
piece
that
we
put
out
recently,
you
know
so
it's
not
that
that
work
stops.
But,
yes,
it
was.
It
was
given
wings
by
that
additional
funding
and
and
it
will,
it
will
be
a
gap,
but
but
what
it's
allowed
us
to
do
is
to
understand
kind
of
like
the
shape
we
want
to
be
in.
It's
allowed
us
to
start
some
really
brilliant
stuff,
and
it's
certainly
something
that
you
know
so.
C
A
G
You
chair,
thank
you,
dr
back
on
platform,
three
tackling
climate
change
and
supporting
our
natural
environment.
Paragraph
six
point:
two
one:
the
identification
of
sites
for
electric
vehicle
charge
points
is
also
mentioned.
Can
you
confirm
if
the
charging
points
will
be
installed
in
all
of
the
31
sites
identified
and
if
so,
how
many
do
you
intend
to
install
and
what's
the
time
scale
for
the
completion
of
that.
G
C
So
we've
got
basically
there's
a
there's:
a
partner
being
identified
by
west
sussex
who's
going
to
deliver
the
infrastructure.
We've
delivered
that
list
of
sites
to
them.
They're
called
connected,
curb
they're,
now
sort
of
analyzing
the
sites
just
to
see
whether
or
not
there's
any
practical
problems
or
whether
or
not
you
know
move
it
to
the
left.
C
It'll
be
a
lot
easier
and
things
like
that
and
then
they'll
they'll
come
back
to
us
with
a
program
from
that
for
the
year
for
year,
one
of
the
contract,
in
terms
of
when
they're
gonna,
how
they're
gonna
move
through
our
area,
installing
those
I'm
told
it'll,
be
a
mix
of
car
parks
and
street
charging
facilities
and
a
mix
of
fast
and
rapid
charging.
I
don't
what
is
the
difference,
do
fast
and
rapid
charging.
That
seems
very
odd
to
me.
C
Okay,
I
might
ask
somebody
that
if
it's
fast
is
it
rapid,
I
don't
know
so
yeah.
If
that
answers
your
question.
If,
if
it
doesn't,
then
I
can
refer
it
to
the
team
to
get
a
more
detailed
answer.
G
Just
just
a
quickie
just
a
little
quick
supplementary.
You
mentioned
year,
one
of
the
contract.
How
long
is
the
contract
in
total.
F
H
Thank
you,
chair
dare
to
dream,
is
designed
to
raise
aspirations
of
young
people
in
secondary
schools,
with
a
focus
on
those
most
at
risk
of
disengaging
using
a
preventative
approach
which
partners
are
working
with
the
council
on
this,
and
how
are
you
raising
the
aspirations
of
the
families
and
the
communities
who
raise
our
young
people
and
therefore
directly
directly
influencing
the
developing
aspirations
of
our
young
people?.
C
So
again
I
had
to
refer
to
the
team
on
this
one,
because
my
only
contact
with
the
programmers
I'd
had
an
absolutely
brilliant
presentation
from
a
couple
of
the
young
women
who'd
been
part
of
it.
C
Coming
back
with
some
ideas
about
kind
of
like
women's
safety
in
the
community,
and
it
was
just
it
was
brilliant
yeah
young
people
yeah,
it
was
really
it
was
really
fab,
so
so
we're
engaging
with
sir
robert
woodard
in
ada
and
with
worthing
bowhunt,
so
those
that
those
the
two
and
they
were
both
schemes
have
now
launched
as
part
of
national
careers
week.
So
we're
we're
doing
this.
C
What
we're
doing
is
we're
making
kind
of
strong
links
into
various
different
employers
and,
through
things
like
the
chamber
of
commerce,
the
careers
professionals
group
which
which,
which
includes
the
sort
of
the
link
with
the
careers
advisors
and
then
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
find
projects
in
this
round,
which
is
around
focus
on
skills
in
construction
sector,
green
technology,
digital
skills
and
then
just
an
overall
kind
of
like
how
are
we
helping
make
sure
that
people
are?
You
know
that
young
people
are
cited
on
what
what
the
possibility
is.
C
I
think,
there's
probably
a
m.
You
know
for
me:
there's
a
mix
of
things
in
there.
So
so
one
is,
you
know:
how
are
we
making
sure
that
local
employers
see
local
talent,
but
also?
How
are
we
helping
young
people
think
beyond
what's
available
on
our
doorstep
into?
C
What's
the
jobs
of
the
future
might
look
like
you
know,
so
many
of
us
had
ended
up
at
some
point
in
our
career
doing
a
job
you
would
never
have
heard
of
at
the
age
of
15
and
it's
how
do
you-
and
this
is
why
the
focus
on
the
you
know-
sort
of
construction
sector
but
kind
of
you
know,
sort
of
modern
methods
of
construction,
green
technology.
You
know,
there's
a
huge
there's
going
to
be
a
huge
amount
of
stuff
in
jobs
that
don't
even
exist
yet.
H
Yes,
do
sorry,
do
you
think
serbia
do
you
have
a
supplementary?
Yes,
I
do.
Thank
you.
Do
you
do
you
think
that
those
things
are
enough
to
to
penetrate
very
often
negative,
familial
perceptions
of
education?
Do
you
think
that
will
raise
the
individual
young
person's
aspirations
enough
to
penetrate
those
those
yeah.
C
I
I
mean
this.
This
is
not
my
area
of
expertise,
but
I
think
that
this
is
where
I
think
the
question
about.
How
are
you,
how
are
you
showing
up
generally
in
the
community,
really
really
matters?
Because
I
think
aspiration
is
about
role
modeling,
it's
about
seeing
what's
possible,
I
you
know,
don't
go
on
too
much
about
the
like
fabric
in
in
lansing,
just
because
I
know
kind
of
like
worthing
people
like
aida
people,
but
it
is
an
example.
It's
a
model.
I
think
that
will
move
around
and
what
I
love
about.
C
That
is
that
you
wouldn't
know.
If
you
walk
through
the
door
of
fabric,
you
don't
know.
Is
it?
Are
you
somebody
who's
accessing
good
work?
Are
you
someone
someone
who's
going
to
help
in
the
community
garden
at
the
back
or
you,
the
kind
of
like
the
blockchain
guy
who's,
doing
something
really
mysterious
upstairs
as
an
entrepreneur?
C
All
of
those
people
are
going
through
the
front
door
there.
So
there's
nothing
that
you
know
we're
not
separating
the
people.
Who've
got
stuff
and
people
don't
have
we're
putting
them
all
in
together
because
they'll
help
each
other
there.
So
for
me,
I
think
if
you
really
want
to
connect
with
stuff
together,
it's
don't
don't
just
do
it
in
schools.
Don't
just
do
it
in
businesses,
it's
fine
places
where
people
just
meet
that
and
see
see
what's
possible,
so
that
that
that
that
would
be
my
answer.
I
Thank
you,
dr
howe.
So
the
time
for
worthing
partnership
offers
a
significant
opportunity
to
boost
the
local
tourist
trade
and
local
events
and
businesses.
However,
a
number
of
local
traders
are
saying
that
they
remain
fairly
underwhelmed
so
far
by
the
impact
that
this
has
made
on
welding's
brand
values.
I
It's
mentioned
on
page
16
that
the
council
has
been
working
with
partners
to
deliver
the
new
website
and
visitors
guides.
So
my
question
is:
to
what
extent
are
the
council's
partners
directly
involved
in
the
reimagining
of
our
brand
worthing,
also
local,
independent
businesses
and
traders?
To
what
extent
are
they
involved
and
to
what
it's
then
as
well,
are
the
bid
and
the
tci
have
they
been
involved
together
or
separately.
C
C
I
think
the
thing
the
thing
with
something
like
so
time
for
worthing
is
that
is
that
is
that
it
needs
to
work
on
a
number
of
different
levels,
because
if
you
want
to
make
a
noise
about
your
place,
you
need
you
know,
you
need
a
brand,
you
need
a
campaign,
you
need,
you
need
an
ability
to
do
that
and
I
what
I
see
the
team
doing
is
working
with
as
many
people
as
possible
to
get
to
get
feed
into
that,
but
but
trying
to
avoid
the
problem
of
it
being
designed
by
committee,
because
the
minute
that
everybody
everybody's,
if
everybody
gets
their
way,
then
it
doesn't
it
just-
doesn't
have
any
cut
through
it
doesn't
have
any
impact,
and
I
think
that
time
for
worthing
does
have
that.
C
I
think
it's
22
000
I
mean
it's,
you
know
the
reach.
The
reach
is
considerable,
as
I
say,
I'm
going
to
defer
to
andy,
because
this
is
his
bag
and
he
knows
what
the
details
is.
I
think
we've
now
got
considerable
reach
with
it
and
now
I
think
we
need
to
start
looking
at
those
impact
measures
and
about
tweaking
the
messaging
within
the
brand
to
be
able
to
benefit,
for
example,
dialing
up
an
independent
retail
message.
Dialing
up
a
com
com
com,
you
know
sort
of
come
and
enjoy
our
fantastic
peer.
K
J
That
all
right
with
you
additional
question
yeah.
So
very
very
briefly.
So
in
answer
to
your
question,
all
of
those
people
that
you've
listed
are
around
the
table.
So
we
have
the
chair
of
the
town
centre
initiative
sam
winston
who's
around
the
table,
but
we've
we've
been
very
careful
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
it's
a
blended,
a
blended
management
group.
J
Essentially
so
we've
got
big
business
represented
by
rayna
from
you
know,
out
out
from
the
industrial
park,
we've
got
store,
ministries
who
are
associated
with
community
works
and
community
works.
Part
of
that
management
group
as
well,
and
we've
tried
to
blend
that.
So
we've
also
got
independent
retailers
on
the
group
as
well.
So
we've
been
very
deliberate
about
making
sure
that
the
brand
is,
you
know
we're
getting
feedback
from
those
people
who
are
associated
from
a
very
diverse
community
across
worthy.
K
K
There
was
another
fund
for
part
of
500
million
that
was
being
allocated
to
local
authorities
through
the
lad
local
authority
delivery
scheme.
This
sets
out
to
improve
the
energy
efficiency
of
homes
of
low
income
income.
Households,
help
reduce
fuel
poverty
and
phase
out
high
carbon
fossil
fuel
heating
there
and
it
contributes
to
the
commitment
to
net
zero
by
2050..
K
You
can
tell
somebody
else
wrote
this
question:
can't
you
there
was
79
million
across
the
southeast
allocated
across
the
southeast.
So
did
our
councils
apply
for
this
fund
and
if
not,
why
not.
C
So
please
say:
yes,
we
did,
as
I
say,
our
enthusiasm
for
other
people's
money
is
extensive
and
we
were
part
of
a
consortium
led
by
portsmouth
city
council
and
we
got
and
the
consortium
got
15
million
pounds
out
of
that
funding
across
the
consortium
and
that's
a
program.
That's
due
to
run
until
march
23.,
that's
march,
2023
and-
and
the
intention
is
that
sort
of
like
there'll,
be
improvements
to
over
1
500
on
gas
properties.
C
So
that's
going
to
be
the
focus,
so
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
partners
and
managing
agents
to
figure
out
exactly
what
the
best
way
of
us
spending
and
accessing
that
that
money,
and
also
starting
to
think
about
from
my
point
of
views,
is
how
are
we
using
that
to
drive
the
the
growth
in
local
skills
and
capabilities
in
the
areas
as
we
do
that
as
well?
So
I
think
that's
an
important
join.
K
Thank
you
chair,
so
how
much
of
the
15
million
have
we
got
and
where
are
those
1500
properties
going
to
be
located
and
odds?
Are
there's
like
three
bits
and
are
they
private
sector?
Are
they
our
own
stock
on
more
than
home
stock.
C
So,
as
I
understand
it
from
the
team,
is
that
what
we've
done
is
successfully
bid,
and
now
we've
got
to
put
together
a
program
of
work
with
the
other
partners,
so
I
don't
have
the
details
on
that
is
certainly
we
one.
C
You
know
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
were
in
there
was
because
we've
got
our
own
stock
as
well
in
ada,
and
so
that
will
definitely
be
on
the
table
for
us
to
do-
and
I
think
you
know
so
with
this
kind
of
public
money
is
that
the
intention
should
be
to
do
to
do
this
kind
of
decarbonization
for
people
who
can't
necessarily
afford
to
fund
it
themselves.
So
that
has
to
be
the
emphasis.
Otherwise,
why
would
you
be
asking
for
public
money
for
it?
C
So
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
the
team
to
come
back
on
the.
What's
that?
What's
the
detail
of
that,
but
I
don't
think
they've
got
it
yet,
because
we
we're
now
they're
forming
the
program.
D
C
Yes,
I
can
which
we
are
delighted
to
say,
and
I'm
just
trying
to
see
whether
or
not
they
actually
told
me
when
they
started,
which
I
think
they
did.
But
yes,
we
have
got
that
post.
That
person
in
post
now.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair
platform,
five
leadership
of
place,
paragraph
6.35
on
agenda
page
24.,
discusses
developing
relationships
with
our
communities
and
highlights
the
need
to
develop
closer
working
relationships
with
our
diverse
and
often
excluded
communities,
which
is
very,
very
important
which
minoritized
ethnic
community
groups
have
engaged
with
this
relationship.
Building
and
out
of
these,
what
age
groups
were
represented.
G
C
Oh
no
thanks
for
the
question
because
it
is,
I
mean
it
was
one
of
the
things
that
there's
one
of
those
things
which
was.
We
were
delighted
to
get
money
that
we
were
able
to
to
put
towards
something
like
this.
The
partner
we've
been
working
with
has
been
looking
at
a
range
of
communities
from
sort
of
looking
at
it
through
a
gender
lens
through
an
age
lens.
C
Looking
at
carers,
looking
at
people
working
in
sectors
which
have
been
particularly
impacted
by
this
and
then
obviously
looking
at
sort
of
issues
around
minoritized
communities,
specifically
so
so
trying
to
take
a
around
a
rounded
view,
we're
just
about
to
get
some
the
first
round
of
the
first
bit
of
data
back
from
them,
and
so
once
we've
had
that
interim
report,
we'll
know
exactly
who
have
they
who
have
they
spoken
to,
and
my
intention
certainly
is
that
we
then
compare
it
with
what
we
have
statistically
to
be
able
to
see.
C
Actually
how
successful
have
they
been
in
reaching
some
of
the
groups
that
we
know
we
don't
know
through
the
data?
So
so
so
the
intention
is
that
they're
doing
sort
of
more.
If
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
sort
of
more
ethnographic
type
work,
you
know
we'll
have,
we've
got
the
data,
which
is
what
we
can
see
in
the
healthy
aw
work.
C
We
need
to
then
bring
that
together
and
say
well
how
how
are
we
doing
and
and
from
then
you
can
build
a
strategy
around
this,
but
certainly
we
look
we're
taking
sort
of
an
inclusion
in
a
in
the
round,
rather
than
particularly
looking
for
particular
characteristics
of
exclusion.
G
A
little
one,
what
was
I
going
to
say,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
on
reflection,
what
specific
difficulties
did
you
encounter
and
and
how
are
they
going
to
be
worked
into
future
work?.
C
Difficulties
with
this
bit
of
work,
so
I
think
this
is
a
bit
of
work
where
actually
making
sure
that
we've
got
a
good
shared
set
of
expectations
about.
It
is
really
important,
and
I
think
you
know
accepting
the
you
know.
Sort
of
I
think
you've
got
to
you've
got
to
start
the
conversation
where
you
are
about
this
kind
of
thing,
and
I
think
it's
been
really
valuable
opening
this
up
and
it's
certainly
you
know,
sort
of.
Since
you
know
I
I
believe
inclusion
and
diversity
is
really
important.
C
I
think
it's
really
important
for
our
staff,
that
you
know
sort
of
people
with
all
kinds
of
differences
feel
seen
and
heard
and
the
same
goes.
You
know
the
same
goes
for
our
community,
but
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
the
spotlight
that
covid
has
put
on
this
issue
has
been
both
helpful,
but
it's
also
something
about
kind
of
us
as
going
into
the
work
just
kind
of
like
understanding.
What
our
starting
point
is,
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
start
in
a
research-led
way
was
so
that
we
didn't.
H
H
C
So,
thank
you
for
your
question.
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
not
gonna
turn
to
andy,
but
he
is
the
expert
on
this,
but
I'll.
Let
him
just
like
poke
me
from
behind.
If
you
think,
if
he
thinks
I'm
saying
I'm
saying
the
wrong
thing
so
so
time
for
we
so
we're.
Basically,
we
regularly
refresh
the
website
and
visit
a
guide,
because
otherwise
you've
got
like
a
little
digital
corpse
out
there
with
the
with
the
wrong
information.
C
So
it's
really
important
that
if
it's
there
that
it's
valuable
and
up
to
date
and
it's
distributed
widely
across
the
southeast
so
so,
which
you
know
so
it
is.
It
is
that
for
me,
it's
a
kind
of
it's.
It's
not
the
thing.
That's
going
to
get
people
to
visit
from.
I
don't
know
from
from
another
country,
but
it
is
the
thing
if
you're
thinking
about
a
really
nice
day
trip,
then
the
visitor
guide
is
a
really
valuable
thing
about
that.
C
We've
been
reducing
the
number
of
hard
copies,
though,
for
both
for
environmental
and
practical
reasons.
I
don't
know
what
the
carbon
impact
is
of
the
visitor
guide.
I'd
have
to
check
that,
or
rather
I'd
have
to
get
andy
to
check
that,
but
we've
dropped
basically
from
sixty
thousand
to
twenty
thousand
copies
in
2024.
You
know
sort
of
and
and
every
year
we'll
we'll
consider
that.
So
at
the
moment,
though,
I
mean-
and
this
is
the
thing
with
the
visitor
guides-
the
visit
guide
is
a
useful
thing.
C
You
know
you
you've
all
done
it
when
you're
staying
somewhere
kind
of
like
you're
on
your
way
to
a
slightly
mediocre,
buffet
breakfast,
and
you
just
pick
up
the
visitor
guide
to
have
a
look
at
so
they
have
got.
A
van
they've
got,
there's
a
value
to
them
being
physically
accessible
that
we
don't
want
to
kind
of
like
under
undersell,
because
we
had
about
two
and
a
half
thousand
people
have
accessed
it
since
the
digital
launch
in
2021.
C
So
so
that's
not.
You
know,
sort
of
that
that
isn't
saying
that
that's
brilliant
impact,
so
we
do
monitor
all
of
the
web
stats
around
that.
So
things
like
bounce
rate,
you
know
so
we've
got.
We
know
what
the
dwell
time
is,
which
is
three
minutes
which
actually
dwell
time
of
three
minutes
on
a
site
is
really
bloody
good.
Given
that,
actually
you
know,
normally
people
will
make
an
assessment
about
digital
content
in
under
10
seconds.
C
So
three
minutes
means
that
they,
you
know
they
are
actually
reading
it,
and
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
potential
to
develop
that
around
the
sort
of
qrm,
qr
code
infrastructure,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
so
for
me.
I
think
it's
you
know
it's
important
to
have
it.
I
think
if
we
want
people
to
visit,
we've
got
to
tell
them
what's
here
and
I
think
that
moving
towards
that
digital
space
is
really
important.
I
think
now,
when
we're
well
into
that
transition.
C
It's
then
about
how
we're
gonna,
how
are
we
gonna
drive
up
those
that
those
visits
and
how
we're
going
to
drive
that
up?
How
are
we
going
to
drive
up
that
door?
You
know
keep
that
to
our
time
at
a
good
at
a
good
level.
I
think
sort
of
linking
back
is
how
do
you
then
demonstrate
that
there's
value
for
business?
It
is
that
it's
really
difficult
to
track
somebody's
kind
of
like
the
moment
that
sparked
someone's
intention
to
go
and
do
something
with
them.
C
Actually
turning
up
and
doing
it,
one
of
the
advantages
of
stuff
like
qr
codes
is
that
actually
you
can
have
that
digital
cookie
trail.
That
will
tell
you
like,
actually
how
you
got
there
and
things
like
how
you
do
sort
of
like
visitor
offers
and
stuff
like
that.
You
know
those
are
benefits
for
the
businesses,
the
benefits
for
the
visitor,
but
also
it
gives
you
the
data
that
allows
you
to
know.
What's
working
and
all
of
these
are
things
to
be
explored.
C
I
think,
as
you
develop,
the
idea
of
of
worthing
as
a
visitor
economy.
H
C
So
so
so
there
isn't
currently
and
that's
partly,
I
think
and-
and
I
think
that's
partly
because
aida's
aid
is
a
bit
different,
you
know
sort
of
so
there
are
multiple
places
in
ada
and
so
an
aid,
a
visitor's
guide.
I
mean
sorry
aida
people,
it's
like
you
know
as
like.
Nobody
gets
the
bus
to
ada,
and
so
what
you've
got
is
you
need
to
develop
stories
around
the
different
places
which
are
there
and
yeah?
That's
that
I
think.
That's
that's
something
to
be
considered.
I
Chair,
thank
you,
dr
howe.
This
is
relating
to
thriving
people
and
communities.
C
Yeah,
so
so,
with
the
healthy
aw
delivery
plan
is
that
we've
been
working,
the
team's
been
working
alongside
the
comms
team
to
make
sure
we
get
that
really
good
reach
those
messages,
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
noticed
when
I
joined
that,
sometimes
the
the
connection
between
a
team
that
was
trying
to
use
communications
and
how
we
were
doing
communications
wasn't
already
lined
up
and
what's
been
brilliant
is
bringing
those
two
teams
together
is
that
you
are
going
to
get
better
reach
and
better
messaging.
C
I
think
the
other
thing
is
that
the
showing
up
in
place
linking
into
social
prescribing
linking
into
you
know
the
idea
that
those
those
health
and
wellbeing
advisors
will
know
the
area
that
they're
working
in,
and
I
think
that
that
will
help
that
will
help
with
them
contacting
and
that
will
help
you
know
sort
of
with,
with
with
them
being
able
to
find
and
connect
to
more
people
on
the
the
sort
of
the
the
alcohol
well-being
advice
place
is
going
to
continue
to
to
work
with
people
and
to
work
on
how
to
reach
that
particular
audience.
C
C
Is
that
that's
the
kind
of
service
that
does
very
well
with
the
casual
conversation
and
just
by
under
and
but
conversation
rather
than
particularly
going
in
and
that
being
the
focus
of
things
where,
though,
however,
if
you
look
at
the
report
that
we
we
put
out
recently-
and
I
have
to
find
the
reference
to
it-
some
really
lovely
stories
about
how
how
actually
web
case
study
is
about
when
people
do
have
that
conversation,
how
it
helps
them,
reframe
their
relationship
with
alcohol
and
make
and
make
change
happen.
C
So
we
we
don't
at
the
moment
we
don't
at
the
moment.
While
we
would
continue
to
coach
somebody
who
who
wanted,
who
wanted
our
help
is
that
we
wouldn't
we're
not
we're
not
there
to
support
people
who've
relapsed,
those
would
be
into
more
health-based
services,
and
so
then
our
role
is
to
make
sure
people
are
connecting
into
the
services
that
they
need
at
that
stage
of
their
journey.
I
C
Brilliant
now
I
know
loads
more
about
this
than
I
did
earlier
because
last
night
this
came
to
jsc
and
dan
goodchild
gave
an
excellent
presentation
on
it.
So
we
are
expecting
as
a
result
of
the
jfc
decision
last
night,
actually
we're
expecting
to
launch
procurement
for
the
heat
network
in
april
2022
so
next
month,
so
we're
all
we're
and
that
process
they
expect
to
run
for
about
nine
months
and
they've
done.
C
This
sounds
really
impressive,
but
the
probe
has
been
deposited
in
the
main
sewer
and-
and
it's
been
there
for
12
months.
So
so
we
have
done
the
investigations
and
the
viability
work
and
that's
one
of
the
things.
The
team's
been
very
successful
at
getting
central
government
funding
to
help
us
investigate
that
so
yeah
that
viability,
stuff
has
been
done
and
and
while
other
investigations
will
be
the
responsibility
of
who
against
the
concession,
is
that
actually
we've
done?
We
believe
we've
done
enough
work
to
be
able
to
attract.
C
You
know
sort
of
serious
contenders
for
wanting
to
bid
for
the
contract,
because
actually
that
base
works
done.
So
I
think
the
the
the
intent
the
the
the
sort
of
the
model
says
the
heat
network
is
predicted
to
save
3000
tons
of
carbon
annually,
which
is
hefty,
and
so
it's
really
key
to
sort
of
decarbonization
and
worthing
that
we
get
it.
C
We
get
it
up
and
running
or
down
and
running
whatever
that,
whichever
feels
more
appropriate
and
so
and
so
getting
that
procurement
moving
and
that
in
place
is
super
important.
A
I
Thank
you,
chair,
purchase
of
shepherd's,
mead,
pad
farm.
A
new
thoughts
farm
are
welcome.
What
is
the
data
on
co2
reduction
resulting
from
the
purchase
of
these
areas?.
C
So
the
purchase
it
themselves
doesn't
really
doesn't
link
to
that.
It
isn't
going
to
reduce
our
carbon.
It's
what
the
potential
is
to
do
with
those
areas
and,
to
be
honest,
we're
still
investigating
what
the
plans
are
for
those.
C
So
so
so,
as
we
start
to
develop
the
ideas
for
each
of
those
spaces,
we'll
be
able
to
develop
whether
or
not
what
what
the
carbon
capture
potential
is
for
it,
or
whether
or
not
actually
and
there's
a
balance,
sometimes
between
carbon
capture
or
by
divert
biogain,
and
that's
why
we're
doing
the
work
and
and
looking
for
funded
feasibility
study
work
in
order
to
be
able
to
work
through?
What's
the
most
advantageous
use
of
those
bits
of
land.
A
A
B
A
And
members,
you
have
the
recommendations
before
you,
I'm
going
to
read
the
recommendations
out
and
then
a
little
preamble.
The
recommendations
are
under
two
or
two
that
just
note:
the
overview
of
progress
in
delivering
the
commitments
and
activities
in
platforms
for
our
places
going
further
and
question
the
chief
executive
on
this,
which
we
have
done
and
that
when
the
next
corporate
strategy
has
been
developed,
josh
could
be
requested
to
receive
further
progress
reports
and
interview
the
chief
executive
on
the
delivery
of
that
new
strategy.
E
A
Strategic
approach
to
seasonal
concessions
in
ada
and
worthy
and
mr
williams,
are
the
head
of
place
of
economy,
will
report
on
the
approach
being
taken
to
deliver
seasonal
concessions
across
ada
and
worthy
and
how
they
support
the
economic
activity.
A
J
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening
members.
I'm
delighted
to
present
this
report
to
hopefully
give
members
a
bit
more
of
an
insight
into
the
program
as
it
exists
today
and
how
we've
thrown
it
to
where
it
is
today
and
obviously,
where
we'd
like
to
take
it
in
the
future.
J
So
to
give
everyone
an
insight,
the
program
actually
started.
In
2008
we
had
two
businesses
two
locations,
but
it
was
a
very
reactive
approach
insofar
as
those
businesses
approached
us
as
the
council,
rather
that
councils,
rather
than
the
other
way
around
we're
now
up
to
53
sites
across
adrian
worthing
and
most
of
those
sites
or
all
of
those
sites,
are
in
our
seafront
blue
spaces
and
in
our
green
spaces
in
the
parks.
J
So
the
program
simply
looks
at
looking
to
activate
those
spaces
offering
new
attractions
and
new
offers
into
those
places,
and
the
program
includes
food
beverage,
leisure
culture
and
ice
cream.
Who
doesn't
what
is
worth
noting
is
we
have
got
a
of
the
businesses
that
we've
got
a
number
of
our
new
startup
businesses,
some
through
the
pandemic,
existing
businesses
and
also
businesses
who
are
actually
now
who
aren't
have
fixed
premises
in
locations
of
town
centres
actually
wanting
to
take
an
additional
unit
as
well.
J
We've
worked
really
really
hard
on
the
process
in
the
last
five
years.
Since
I've
been
in
post,
it
was,
it
was,
let's
call
it
quite
loose
in
in
terms
of
five
years
ago,
so
we
put
a
very
robust
process
around
it
now
an
application
process,
a
tendering
process
before
the
start
of
each
season,
so
we
run
a
summer
and
a
winter
season,
and
that
includes
awarding
criteria
an
awarding
panel
and
as
part
of
that
application
process,
we
have
things
such
as
have
they
traded
well
before
and
previously.
If
not,
can
they
provide
that?
J
How
are
their
sustainability
credentials
are
absolutely
critical
now
as
part
of
the
application
process,
and
we
also
ask
for
you
know
aesthetically
about
the
units
as
well.
In
terms
of
we
don't
want.
You
know
burger
vans,
for
example,
on
on
on
the
c
front,
so
they
have
to
be
at
a
certain
quality.
J
The
license
itself
is
a
personal
license.
It
allows
businesses
to
trade
through
that
season
and
allows
them
to
pop
on
and
pop
off,
essentially
whenever
they
wish
through
that
season.
J
But
there
are
a
number
of
conditions
of
trade
before
we
actually
allow
those
businesses
out
there.
So
there's
things
such
as
well,
what
we
did
have
covered
risk
assessments.
We
still
ask
them
for
covered
risk
assessments.
We
also
around
waste
and
trade
management,
sustainability,
public
liability
in
the
case
of
our
water
sports
providers.
J
They
need
to
have
the
necessary
licenses
as
part
of
that,
as
I
said
before,
we
are
still
working
through,
as
with
everything
at
the
council,
we're
still
working
through
the
sustainability
elements,
but
certainly
over
the
last
I
would
say
three
to
four
years:
we've
embedded
sustainability
into
the
actual
application
process
and
it
is
key
then
we
look
at
that
now,
but
in
terms
of
looking
forward,
I
only
see
that
kind
of
growing
as
I've
put
in
the
paper
but
dependent
on
budget
and
location.
J
I
do
see
a
number
of
electricity
points
coming
through
if
we
can
in
those
locations
to
try
and
make
it
a
purely
green
green
offer
if
we
can,
but
even
in
the
detail
at
the
moment
we
do
ask
for
the
lowest
noise
lowest
carbon
generators.
That's
a
must
and
they
can't
do
anything
more
than
that,
but
we
do
ask
for
biodegradable
recycling
facilities,
etc.
J
Yeah
we've
built
the
program
over
the
last
five
years.
It's
providing,
I
feel
some
different
offers,
especially
around
leisure
and
more
than
happy
to
take
any
questions
you
may
have
on
the
program.
D
J
No
problem
so
so
the
answer
is
yes
and
I
think
we're
there
now
so
so,
based
on
the
feedback
around
the
concession
spread,
we've
grown
the
program
and
we've
grown
that
in
the
in
terms
of
aesthetically
in
terms
of
place
and
in
terms
of
income,
because
obviously
the
income
generated
goes
to
bottom
line
services
as
well
as,
if
we've
got
surplus,
goes
to
investing
in
in
our
seafront
and
our
green
spaces
as
well.
I've
always
been
mindful
with
concessions
to
not
have
a
series
of
concessions.
Looking
like
a
street
market.
J
Essentially
so
we've
moved
to
a
cluster
approach.
I
think
we're
at
the
maximum
now
of
what
we've
got,
but
you
know
things
change
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
work
with
the
members
around
those
those
changes.
It
is
worth
noting
two
two
critical
points
that
we
do
ask
concession.
J
Operators
one
is-
and
you
should
see
this
if
they
don't
please
let
me
know
is
they
should
be
to
the
edges
of
the
promenade
first
and
foremost,
to
actually
keep
it
clear
from
menard
and,
secondly,
they
are
allowed
three
tables
and
12
chairs
as
part
of
that
concession
license.
If
they
want
them
and
they
have
to
run
east
to
west
by
and
large
rather
than
north
south
to
because
because
of
the
volume
of
traffic,
especially
in
the
summer,
that
we
have
on
whirling
promenade.
D
G
You
chair:
yes,
it's
a
bit
of
a
parking
question
in
associate
in
association
with
the
traders,
so
bear
with
me.
So
yes,
we're
looking
at
paragraph
5.2
on
agenda
page
60.,
with
the
increase
of
concessions
operating
a
long
marine
parade
licensed
concession
traders
who
are
not
permitted
to
leave
their
vehicles
at
the
license.
Location
overnight
are
often
seen
parked
nearby
a
long
marine
parade
in
car
parking
only
spaces
at
the
close
of
business.
J
It's
not
a
problem
at
all,
so
so
as
part
of
the
condition
license.
Obviously,
as
I
said
before,
in
the
in
the
report
is
a
set
down
setup
set
down
so
for
all
of
our
businesses.
We
ask
that
those
units
are
taken
home
as
part
of
that
that
process.
It
just
so
happens
that
those
on
marine
parade
are
three
local
residents
and
three
local
concessions,
so
all
are
based
in
central
ward.
J
But
the
other
thing
is,
we
are
trying
to
make
the
con
to
get
the
concession
operators
to
actually
work
with
each
other
as
well.
So
a
number
of
the
concession
operators
have
got
out
of
town
storage
parking,
so
we
are
actually
trying
to
get
those
concessional
concession
operators
working
together
and
we-
and
it
is
important
that
we
do
that,
because
the
businesses
themselves
and
those
that
you
can
visibly
see
on
the
marine
parade
have
actually
had
break-ins
to
those
units
as
well.
B
J
I
think
that's
a
similar
question
later,
though
so
yeah
to
be
honest.
Counselor
we
haven't
done
any
done
undertaking
any
particular
research
in
terms
of
the
impact,
but
we're
very,
very
mindful
of
the
concession
program
supports
and
doesn't
hinder
and
provides
added
value
to
the
locality.
J
Where
possible,
we
actually
try
to
place
those
concession
businesses
in
places
that
aren't
attributed
to
any
sort
of
competition
in
that
area,
and
so
we're
very
mindful
of
that,
especially
those
in
fixed
premises
and
we're
also
always
quite
happy
to
take
continual
feedback
from
members.
Businesses,
concessions
themselves
and
actually
take
comments.
Comments
on
board
at
the
moment.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
formal
complaints
from
the
business
community
about
the
program,
but
we
did
to
be
honest.
J
We
did
have
a
few
as
we
came
out
of
the
first
lockdown
when
we
saw
a
complete
spike
of
people
wanting
outdoor
trading
understandably,
but
we
had
we've
had
no
formal
complaints
about
the
program
from
the
from
the
fixed
premises,
but
it
is
is
something
on
my
mind
and
in
terms
of
when
we're
assessing
who
goes
where
and
what
other
of
what
are
the
locations.
B
You
say,
you've
had
no
formal
complaints
from
businesses,
but
there
has
been
sustained
comment,
particularly
on
shoring
beach.
I
am
hopeful
that
this
summer
will
be
a
bit
better.
Could
you
please
consider
looking
at
a
formal
consultation,
to
see
how
local
businesses
feel,
because
at
the
moment
I
think
the
fact
they're
not
actually
feeding
back
doesn't
mean
to
say
there
aren't
concerns.
J
Yeah,
more
than
happy
to,
as
I
said
before,
we've
actually
now
got
fixed
premise
and
premise:
businesses
also
taking
concession
sites,
so
it
also
works
the
other
way
around,
but
yeah
more
than
happy
to.
D
I
do
thank
you
and
I
think
it
follows
on
from
the
question
that
we've
just
had
so.
My
question
is,
while
meanwhile
uses
are
increasingly
popular,
some
businesses
in
our
town
center
feel
they
are
disadvantageous
to
shops,
cafe,
owners
etc,
who
have
greater
overheads
and
plus
they
have
to
provide
facilities
such
as
toilets
and
hand
washing.
How
can
a
balance
be
achieved
between
competing
needs?
J
Thank
you,
council.
I
think
it's
a
very
similar
response.
We're
always
mindful
of
again,
as
I
said
before,
not
putting
businesses
in
certain
locations
that
are
in
competition
with
fixed
premises,
we're
always
mindful
of
those
locations
and
but,
as
I've
just
said
to
councillor
loader,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
review
that.
But
again,
as
we
will
reiterate,
we
have
got
people
like
manuka
giuseppe's,
light
enzos
this
year,
who
are
actually
got
fixed,
fixed
premises
who
are
actually
taking
a
concession
license.
So
it
does
work
the
other
way
around
as
well.
D
A
I
J
J
It's
on
my
mind
pretty
much
every
year,
as
I
said
before,
if
the
finance
is
allowed,
if
the
locations
allow,
I
hope
that
we
can
move
to
more
green
green
power
electrical
power
to
actually
serve
these
concessions
and
about
the
moment
there's
no
kind
of
mandate
day
a
day
year.
But
what
I
would
say
is
every
year
we
are
more
stringent
on
looking
at
sustainability
as
part
of
the
application
process.
Every
single
season.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
you.
We
have
a
question
from
council
stanford,
but
I
was
wondering
this.
This
subject
is
also
from
castle
loader.
Would
you
like
to
ask
your
question
as
it's,
based
on
the
on
the
same
subject,
please
before
we
go
to
you,
council
stanford.
B
Thank
you
chairman.
I
think
you've
pretty
much
answered
it.
I
mean
my
question:
was
that
you've
already
banned
generators
from
the
beach
green
cluster
on
shoreham
beach
following
sustained
complaints
from
residents?
My
question
was
why
they're
still
being
considered
at
other
sites
when
the
councils
have
declared
a
climate
emergency?
B
J
So
again,
it's
part
of
the
phased
approach
so
again
we're
more
than
you
know
again,
as
I
said
before,
more
than
having
to
take
feedback
from
members
in
terms
of
you
know
the
approach
of
certain
locations,
the
the
plan
is
to
try
and
make
this
program.
You
know
carbon
neutral
as
best
we
can,
and
it
is
part
of
this
phase
approach
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
J
So
I
think
it
is
you
know
is,
is
a
number
of
responses
that
I've
said
tonight,
but
it
is
part
of
the
program.
It
is
part
of
the
thinking.
K
Thank
you
chair.
I'm
pleased
to
see
a
joined
up
and
strategic
approach
to
seasonal
concessions.
We've
seen
in
platforms
for
our
places
the
commitment
to
help
small
businesses
thrive.
What
measures
can
the
council
introduce
to
support
small
businesses
running
seasonal
concessions
to
thrive.
J
Thank
you
for
your
question,
and
this
is
one
of
the
delights
about
the
seasonal
concession
program-
is
the
close
proximity
that
we
get
to
these
businesses
as
by
very
nature
of
issuing
licenses
and
getting
to
know
them
as
as
businesses
and
as
people,
so
in
terms
of
when
people
taking
concession
license
they're
automatically
plugged
into
our
our
network
in
terms
of
businesses
in
terms
of
our
economic
development
in
terms
of
grant
funding
in
terms
of
marketing,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
we
push
any
sort
of
skills
or
training
opportunities
their
way
as
well.
J
So
the
other
thing
is
we're,
always
in
dialogue
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
of
the
training
providers
and
others,
and
they
are
part
of
that
network
and
we
encourage
them
to
do
so.
The
other
thing
which
we're
I'm
really
keen
on
is
for
some
of
these
businesses.
They
are
startups,
they
did
start
up
and
they're
pandemic
and,
as
we
know,
you
know,
12
months
is
the
most
critical
thing
for
a
startup.
So
we
do
give
a
lot
of
support
around
that
already.
J
We
do
things
such
as
spotlights,
so
you
might
have
seen
whether
it
be
council,
communications
or
time
for
word,
then
going
back
to
time
for
wording
around
spotlights
on
these
businesses
to
give
them
extra
exposure.
But
in
terms
of
the
general
approach,
these
concessions
once
they're
part
of
the
network.
We
support
them.
Even
when
they've
gone
from
the
network,
we
make
sure
that
they're
part
of
the
you
know
the
programs
or
the
support
that's
made
available
across
adrian
welding,
around
business
support.
A
Do
well
do
carry
out
sev,
please
we
don't
want
to
stop
your
throw.
K
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
will
be
brief.
I
was
really
alarmed
when
you
said
earlier
about
not
having
burger
vans
on
the
seafront.
K
I
was
like
crikey
me:
what's
the,
how
do
you
define
this
aesthetic
that
pleases
you
enough
to
put
a
business
on
a
seafront
and
and
how
do
we
ensure
that
traditional,
long-standing
business
and
pop-up
type
mobile
businesses
aren't
going
to
get
pushed
down
and
not
get
a
look
in
because
of
their
aesthetic.
J
It's
a
good
question:
it's
very
very
hard
to
answer
that
without
showing
you
the
applications
that
come
through,
we
have
a
very
diverse
range
of
units
that
come
through
it's
fair
to
say
we
have
a
number
of
those
which
are,
I
mean,
there's
an
there's
a
bit
of
a
human
judgment
in
it
to
be
fair
to
him
in
the
process
at
the
moment,
but
in
terms
of
some
things
we
get
through
in
terms
of
application,
there's
three
usual
things
that
we
get
through
number
one
is
there's
no
unit
at
all,
so
they're
gonna
have
to
create
something
from
scratch,
which
kind
of
brings
alarm
bells
a
little
bit
two
there.
J
You
can
see
that
they're
traditional
units
that
are
placed
in
other
pop-up
locations
around
fairgrounds
and
they're
designed
for
that
very
purpose,
whereas
for
a
number
of
them
you
see
that
they've
actually
taken
the
time
to
actually
change
their
actual
outlook
and
unit
for
that
location
that
they
want
to
actually
apply
for,
and
that's
what
we
look
for
in
terms
of
this
downgrading
and
this
change,
I'm
I'll
be
honest,
that
the
actual
concessions
program
is
designed
to
be
a
competitive
process
and
for
it
to
change.
J
If
we
didn't
do
that,
then
we
would
be
in
the
realms
of
lease
and
in
the
realms
of
permanent
structures
and
in
the
realms
of
giving
people
a
natural
designated
space.
So
that's
why
we
actually
provide
an
actual
annual
process
and
that's
what
we
actually
tended
for
that.
So
there's
always
going
to
be
an
element
of
competition
and
it's
not
just
on
the
aesthetics.
As
I
say,
sustainability
is
our
number
one
priority,
but
I
think
it's,
those
businesses
that
we
look
at
that
have
actually
actually
gone.
J
The
extra
mile
designing
it
for
those
locations
that
we
put
in
the
sauna
is
a
classic
unworthing
sea
front.
At
the
moment.
They've
really
really
thought
about
how
they
want
to
add
that
to
be
viewed
on
worthing
sea
front
rather
than
any
other
location.
A
Thank
you,
our
members,
that's
the
last
of
the
pre-submitted
questions.
Do
other
any
members
of
the
committee
wish
to
ask
mrs
a
question.
A
A
K
I
was
just
wondering
whether,
because
there
are
at
least
two
or
three
questions
asking
the
same
thing
around
talking
to
existing
businesses,
whether
we
should
sort
of
factor
that
in
in
some
way
here,
I
don't
know
what
councillor
smith
and
lauda
think
about
that.
K
What
can
we
can
we
formally
recommend
that
in
two
point
make
a
2.2
that
the
approach
to
seasonal
concessions
includes
beginning
to
beginnings
of
a
consultation
with
existing
business
holders
premises
holders?
If
that's
the
right
word,
it's
not
the
right
word
established
established
businesses.
A
Is
that
a
second
did
that
oh
well,
council,
loader
or
castles?
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
another
recommendation
or
an
additional.
Any
members
would
like
to
comment
on
that.
A
No
well,
I
was
gonna
ask
if
you
want
to
come
back
to
anything,
but
as
we
haven't
had
any
comments,
will
we
all
agree
with
that
edition?
Then?
Okay,
have
you
got
that?
Okay?
So
if
you
can
have
that
please
to
the
recommendations?
A
A
A
lot
of
the
time
it's
been
an
amusing
contribution
as
well.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
service
and
your
contribution,
and
I
think,
with
all
and
I'm
gonna
say
on
behalf
of
the
committee.
I'd
like
that
to
be
recorded.
Please,
sir.
L
Yours
follow
that
I
wasn't
expecting
that.
Thank
you
very
much
evan.
Maybe
maybe
you
could
admit
it
in
capital,
letters
in
red
or
something
like
that,
but
no
joking,
no
joking
inside
I
wasn't.
I
wasn't
expecting
that
at
all
you've
got
obviously
you've
got
you've
got
the
report
in
front
of
you.
Obviously
it
is
my
last
meeting
meeting
of
josh
after
my
20-year
service
on
this
council,
so
I
thought
I'd
drag
it
out
and
do
it
page
by
page,
if
that's
all
right,
jim
no.
L
Unless
members
wanted
me
to
you,
you
are
a
very
diligent
bunch.
I
know
who
would
have
read
this
very
very
diligently,
so
I'm
very
happy
to
take
questions
on
the
report.
The
record
the
report
is
very
clear.
It's.
It
seems
a
long
time
ago
we
started
this.
It
was
a
very
different
world
when
we
started
this,
so
it's
worth
paying.
L
I
want
to
pay
my
thanks
a
tribute
not
only
to
mark
lowe
for
supporting
us
all
this
time,
but
the
various
members
under
one
or
two
over
here
carol-
and
it's
been
a
really
interesting.
This
is
I'll,
try
to
work
it
out.
It's
almost
four
years.
We
started
this
soon
after
I
got
re-elected
to
the
council
in
2018
and
of
course
we
lost
a
couple
of
years
due
to
the
pandemic
of
things,
but
we're
saying
we
had
a
good
night.
L
Didn't
we
council
smith's
here
we
had
a
really
good
night
out
in
asia
and
worthing,
seeing
our
nighttime
economy.
L
L
But
no
joke!
Joking
aside,
you
know
mark's
been
really
helpful
to
get
pulled
this
together.
We've
consulted
witnesses,
both
pre
and
post
pandemic,
and
I'm
delighted
that
andy
hopefully
stayed
because
andy
and
fiona
also
have
been
really
helpful,
supporting
us,
because
I
think
we
all
know-
I
think,
across
this
chamber
that
the
evening
nighttime
economy
is
going
to
be
really
really
important
to
get
us
back
out
of
this
and
the
pandemic,
and
and
actually
it's
really
interesting
to
follow
the
previous
item.
L
Actually
because
I
was
thinking
I
was
thinking
of
a
concession
opportunity,
perhaps
as
adrian
worthington
crier
doing
walks
and
guided
walks
around
the
town.
I
know
it's
something
you'll.
You
know
you
know
a
bit
about
chairman
coming
as
a
former
mayor
of
rye,
where
the
town
crier
does
something
like
that.
So
maybe
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
that
afterwards
and
I'll
speak
to
mr
williams
about
a
possible
opportunity,
but
also
I'm
still
elected
member.
L
So
maybe
I
ought
to
declare
an
interest,
the
legal
opportunity,
because
I
may
well
apply
for
a
concession
to
do
guided,
walk
so
who
knows?
But
that's
not
what
we're
here
to
talk
about,
but,
as
you
know
chairman,
I
do
often
go
off
hand
off
a
tangent,
but
but
the
report
is
very
clearly
set
out.
The
recommendations
are
before
you
and
I'm
very
happy
to
answer
any
questions
from
members
from
either
adrenal
worthing.
Thank
you,
chairman.
A
Thank
you
for
that
very
brief
resume.
There
councilwoman
has,
as
the
council
has
just
said,
he
is
here
with
members
of
the
working
group.
So
don't
members
have
any
questions
for
council
smitham
before
we
go
to
the
recommendation.
H
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
do
offering
guided
walks
by
the
way
there
were
14
mentions
of
youths,
putting
people
off
attending
places
and
events
in
the
surveys,
and
yet
the
interviews
didn't
cover
youth
organizations
nor
recommendations
for
any
gaps
in
the
youth
nighttime
economy
provision.
Why
is
that
please?
And
how
do
we
plan
to
address
those
gaps
in
future
provisioning.
L
Themselves
are
also
the
responsibility
of
the
council
council,
but
I
really
hope
we
can
sort
of
work
together
closely
with
the
county
council
earlier.
L
Alternative
provision
college,
which
wasn't
mentioned
by
the
chief
executive
and
we
actually
support
some
of
the
most
disadvantaged
young
people
in
the
county
who
can't
access,
mainstream
education.
So
I
really
hope
that
the
councils,
working
together
with
the
county
council,
can
actually
support
some
of
those
most
disadvantaged
young
people,
because
I
think
that's
really
really
important.
But
but
in
terms
of
gaps
with
people
we
consulted,
we
could
have
gone
on
for
quite
a
long
time,
and
indeed
we
did.
I
think
it's
probably
on
record.
L
I
don't
know
whether
carol's
carol's
been
around
a
little
while
have
we
ever
done
a
review?
That's
lasted
this
long.
I
don't
think
we
have
have.
We
really.
I
know
mark
was
keen
that
that
we
presented
the
first
report,
and
I
know
the
working
group
badgered
quite
carefully
to
make.
E
L
That
we
actually
went
again
and
sort
of
you
know,
took
new
evidence
as
we
were
coming
out
the
pandemic,
because
obviously
the
evening
and
nighttime
economy
is
a
very
different
place
than
where
we
started
this
report
and
that's
why
I
think
we
were
really
keen
to
sort
of
a
go
out
on
two
trips.
I
think
probably
one
thing
I
probably
would
highlight-
and
I
think
council
smith,
as
a
central
council,
I
know,
raised
a
number
of
concerns
around
some.
L
You
know
not
only
central
ward
and
worthing,
but
some
of
the
town
centre
areas
within
ada.
There
is
a
huge
conflict
now
between
the
evening
and
night
time,
economy
being
successful
and
the
number
and
people
moving
into
our
town
centres-
and
I
think
obviously
I
won't
be
here
as
a
councillor,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
elected
members
need
to
be
very
very
mindful,
but
I
know
council
smith
will
certainly
do
that.
L
All
the
time
she's
representing
central
ward,
standing
up
for
her
residence,
but
equally,
I
think
the
rest
of
you
need
to
make
sure
you.
You
know
you
support
our
even
nighttime
economy.
Businesses
to
to
you
know,
picking
up
all
the
tourism
argument
earlier.
Actually
worthy
agent
needs
to
be
a
really
really
good
place
to
want
to
come
and
visit,
whether
that
be
in
the
daytime
or
in
the
evening.
L
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
balancing
to
do
there,
but
I
think
it's
a
really
really
important
issue,
but
I
hope
that
kind
of
answered
your
question
in
a
sort
of
roundabout
sort
of
way.
Thank
you.
A
K
K
I
know
these
are
one-offs,
but
it
may
provide
more
assurance
for
people
coming
out
at
night
and
it's
a
big
shame
that
the
lansing
sea
of
lights
parades
finished,
because
that
was
really
well
received
and
we
have
nothing
similar
in
southwick.
So
we'd
really
like
to
see
some
more
of
those
galvanizing
light
up
type
events
in
in
our
areas.
Thank
you.
K
E
L
I
have
to
say
you
know
that
I
remember
some
sea
of
lights
in
lansing
I
trespassed
over
the
border
when
I
was
worthington
crier
to
lead
the
parade
a
few
years
ago
and.
L
Absolutely
wonderful,
wonderful
evening:
I
don't
know
where
the
council
anywhere
anyone
was
there,
but
it
was
probably
four
or
five
years
ago
now
and
it
was
an
absolutely
wonderful
event
see
of
lights.
So
I
really
hope
we
can
get
back
to
doing
that
again
and
probably
also
declare
my
interest
now
as
the
official
town
cry
for
launching,
because
I'd
really
really
like
to
get
off
the
ground.
So
I'm
very
happy
to
have
a
conversation
with
councillors
from
both
both
councils
to
see
how
we
can
make
that
happen.
L
But
again,
in
answer
to
the
previous
question,
there
all
seems
a
balance
between
those
events
and
people
that
live
on
those
routes.
You
know,
there's
a,
I
know,
you
know
you've
all
been
very
nice
to
me
this
evening,
but
the
town
crying
can
be
a
bit
annoying,
sometimes
leading
very
noisy
events,
particularly
outside
people's
homes,
so
that
you
know
that
you
know
there
is
a
serious
balance
to
be
struck,
but
but
certainly
in
terms
of
southwest
I'm
with
you
100,
I
did
a
a
business
saturday
morning
event
with
them.
L
The
former
chairman
of
this
committee.
Actually,
the
chair
of
lady
council
steve
chip.
We
had
a
a
great
time
in
southwest
square,
promoting
local
businesses
and
I
think
the
more
we
can
do
stuff
like
that.
I
think
the
better,
so
I
really
hope
going
forward.
I
can
play
my
role
in
my
in
my
new
role
with
both
councils
to
promote
those
sort
of
events,
so
I
very
much
look
forward
to
helping
the
councils
deliver
on
those
objectives.
Thank
you.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
A
Thank
you,
council
smith.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
councillors
brethren
because
of
noah.
F
Thank
you
chair,
I'd
like
to
ask
you
about
worthing,
museum
and
theater's
trust,
which
I'm
sure
you
agree,
forms
are
very
important
part
of
the
economy
of
living
both
during
the
daytime
and
also
at
night
times.
I
don't
see
much
reference
to
it
in
your
report,
but
I
assume
that
you
reflected
upon
their
role
in
in
worthing's
cultural,
offering
in
the
evenings.
Do
you
have
any
observations
about
what
they
could
be
doing
that
they're
not
doing
at
the
moment.
L
What
an
excellent
question,
if
I
may
say
so,
I
thought
I
think
we
we
and
mark
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here
we
were
really
keen.
Obviously
you
know
in
the
first
answer.
We
could
have
interviewed
lots
of
people
during
our
evidence
sessions.
I
think
we
took
the
view
and
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that
we
wanted
to
only
speak
to
those
people
that
actually
had
a
prominent
role
within
the
early
evening
and
nighttime
economies.
L
I
think
at
the
time
I
think
it
was
fair
to
say
we
probably
felt
that
the
museum
didn't
fall
into
that
category,
because
it's
it
wasn't
open
so
much
during
the
evenings
in
terms
of
the
theaters
we
did
interview
the
theaters
didn't
we
mark,
I
think,
on
the
first
session,
because
obviously
you
and
I
think
one
of
the
questions
we
did
ask
the
theaters
was
actually
whether
we
can
have
some
sort
of
promotional
thing,
like
many
other
towns
do
where.
L
Actually,
if
you
go
to
the
pavilion
theater
for
such
and
such
a
show,
actually
the
the
the
restaurants
and
the
hospitality
businesses
can
actually
have
an
offer.
That
carol
probably
remember
that,
and
I
know
we
did
talk
about
that
with
the
theaters,
but
but
I
absolutely
tell
you
what
about
the
museum-
and
I
really
hope
and
in
fact
I'll
be
raising
it
with
the
museum
on
sunday,
because
I'm
being
invited
to
attend
a
museum
they've
got
a
really
exciting
event
about,
of
course,
the
platinum
jubilee
which
I
know.
L
Obviously
both
councils
are
really
keen
to
support
and
and
and
there's
some
our
exhibition
that
they
want
to
do
some
public
art
about
me.
Apparently
all
they.
L
The
event
one
of
the
two-
I
hope
that
I
hope
that
helps,
but
I
think
I
think
the
serious
thing
about
the
theaters,
I
think,
is
really
important
in
terms
of
you
know.
If
this
report's
adopted
and
goes
forward,
I
think
actually,
as
we
come
further
further
out
the
pandemic
as
the
theaters
get
busier,
I
think
there's
a
huge
opportunity
to
support
our
evening
and
nighttime
businesses
such
as
restaurants
and
pubs.
A
We
have
a
recommendation
before
us
I'll
read
the
recommendation
first.
That
jos
considers
the
report
and
recommendations
from
the
evening
and
nighttime
economy.
Working
group
and
further
recommendations
refer
the
recommendations
to
the
joint
strategic
committee
for
consideration
in
due
course,
which
we
will
do.
Are
there
any
other
recommendations
that
members
would
like
to
add
to
the
report.
A
That
would
appear
not
so
can
we
agree
that
the
recommendation
on
page
68
is
carried.
Please.
A
Now
this
item
provides
a
review
of
the
work
program
and
a
draft
of
the
work
program
for
22
23.
As
I
said
in
appendix
a
we
have
the
opportunity
to
add
additional
items
to
the
draft
work
gram,
if
considered
appropriate,
and
it's
recommended
to
note
the
just
work
program-
progress
for
2122
in
appendix
a
and
agree.
A
K
Thanks
chad,
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can
add
something
in
on
placing
people
vulnerable
people
in
temporary
accommodation
outside
of
our
district
and
borough.
A
Yes,
of
course,
thank
you,
mrs
lee,
that
would
need
to
be
a
resolution
and
it
would
need
to
be
seconded.
M
A
So
we've
got
a
broad
support
across
the
chamber.
Any
other
comments
on
that
proposal.
K
I'd
just
like
to
to
echo
what
council
bridges
has
said,
we
we
have
in
our
case
loads,
all
of
us
people
that
families
that
are
placed
pregnant
people
that
are
placed
in
in
bogner
regis,
in
particular
at
the
moment,
who
are
spending
extraordinary
amounts
of
money
getting
to
and
from
for
schools,
trying
to
get
us
to
keep
some
consistency
for
their
children
being
in
schools
locally,
and
you
know
an
extraordinary
amount
of
time
doing
that
also
I've.
K
I've
got
a
lady
who
works
who's,
heavily
pregnant
who's
spending
at
least
50
pounds
a
week
just
on
petrol,
which
is
obviously
really
expensive
at
the
minute,
just
to
try
and
keep
her
job
and
and
it's
awful
for
people.
I
just
want
to
look
at
how
much
it
impacts
people
locally,
how
many
people
it's
impacting,
what
the
scale
and
breadth
of
that
is
and
what
we're
doing
to
mitigate
it.
What
maybe
long-term
medium-term
strategy
we've
got
in
place
to
to
end
that,
because
it's
it's
not
good
for
anybody.
A
Thank
you,
I
think.
Are
they
all
members
who
are
in
agreement
with
that
proposal?
Yes,
oh
you
have
that
mr
cabindella
okay,
so
that
will
be
included.
Thank
you.
So
far,
are
there
any
other
issues
that
members
wish
to
bring
forward
regarding
the
work
program,
so
we
have
the
recommendations
on
page
192,
2.1,
2.2
and
2.3.
A
Can
we
agree
those
recommendations
with
the
one
that
was
added
by
council
of
state
forth?
Are
we
all
agreed
on
that?
I
agree.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well.
That
would
appear
to
be
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting
this
evening.
So
thank
you
very
much
everyone
for
attending.
Thank
you
for
your
contributions
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
possibly
at
the
next
one.
Thank
you
and
good
night
moved
in
close
8
15..
Thank
you.