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A
The
recording
will
begin
at
the
commencement
of
the
meeting
and
we'll
conclude
when
I
have
declared
the
meeting
closed.
The
recording
of
this
meeting
will
be
available
to
view
for
one
year
and
will
be
deleted
after
that
period.
The
council
has
advertised
all
the
planning
applications
to
be
considered
this
evening.
Some
people
have
applied
to
the
council
to
speak
either
in
support
or
to
object
to
a
planning
application.
A
Objectors
and
supporters
have
three
minutes
each
to
speak.
District
councilors
and
Parish
councilors
also
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
If
you
have
registered
to
speak,
I
will
announce
you
at
the
right
time.
You
must
keep
your
comments
to
planning
matters
and
speak
within
your
time
limit
following
the
representation.
The
committee
will
discuss
the
planning
applications
in
turn
and
vote
on
each
application
to
reach
a
decision
this
evening.
I
will
now
hand
you,
over
to
our
senior
lawyer,
Caroline
Perry,
just
to
read
the
safety
notice
to
you.
Thank
you.
Caroline.
B
Thank
you,
please
familiarize
yourself
with
the
far
exits
from
this
room.
There
are
marked
Refuge
points
at
the
top
of
all
the
staircases
for
Mobility
vehicle
users.
There's
no
fire
alarm
planned
during
this
meeting.
Therefore,
if
the
alarm
does
sound,
please
leave
via
the
fire
exits
to
the
assembly
point,
which
is
at
the
far
side
of
the
car
park
by
the
Flint
wall.
B
A
Thank
You
Caroline,
just
before
we
start
the
first
item
on
the
agenda.
I
just
firstly
like
to
say
I
do
hope.
The
majority
of
you
were
able
to
attend
the
public
consultation
on
the,
firstly,
the
bank,
holiday,
Monday
and
then
last
Friday
I
would
personally
like
to
have
seen
some
more
dates
given
to
these
as
I
do
believe.
It
is
really
very
important
now
that
the
developers
do
engage
and
listen
to
the
public,
a
lot
more
so
I
hope
most
of
you
did
actually
manage
to
get
to
that
consultation.
A
D
I'm
substituting
for
councilor
Mandy
Buxton.
A
E
Yes,
it's
not
actually
a
declaration
of
Interest
chair.
It's
just
that
just
to
say
that
on
item
two
I
did
attend
a
consultation
meeting
with
the
developer
and
several
of
the
residents.
A
F
Could
you
say
thank
you
good
evening
councilors.
My
question
is
Recent
research
by
Rightmove
shows
Ada
to
be
the
least
affordable
place
in
the
whole
of
the
UK,
for
first-time
buyers.
First-Time
buyers
will
struggle
in
Shoreham,
Lancing
and
Worthing,
where
salaries
are
being
outpaced
by
strong
Health
growth.
F
The
average
asking
price
for
a
first-time
buyers
home
in
Ada
is
now
11.6
times
the
average
local
salary,
whereas
the
national
figure
is
7.2
of
the
average
local
salary.
This
is
a
truly
shocking
figure
and
almost
unattainable
for
most
people.
Therefore,
my
question
is
therefore
what
will
help
the
majority?
What
help
will
the
majority
of
developments
along
the
a259
and
old
Shoreham
road,
which
are
highly
priced
and
some
marketed
as
second
homes?
What
help
are
they
going
to
be
for
local,
first-time
buyers.
G
Happy
to
reply,
but
also
to
follow
up
with
a
written
response.
If
that's
okay,
yeah
I
mean
this
is
a
really
important
matter
for
the
council
and
for
many
councils
in
the
Southeast,
and
it's
not
just
Ada,
certainly
there's
a
similar
situation
in
Worthing
and
in
the
Southeast
in
terms
of
the
affordability
gap
between
our
average
earnings
and
the
affordability
of
average
house
prices.
G
The
local
plan
inspector
back
in
2017
made
it
very
clear
that
any
allocation
of
sites
should
be
a
minimum,
with
an
expectation
to
look
at
maximizing
the
ability
to
bring
forward
housing
on
Brownfield
sites
and
on
allocated
sites
and
and
through
the
actions
of
the
planning
committee,
trying
to
ensure,
wherever
possible,
delivery
of
the
local
plan
policy.
Compliance
30,
affordable
housing.
G
The
key
issue,
though,
as
mentioned,
is
obviously
first-time
buyers
and
one
of
the
key
things
that
we've
seen
in
the
for
the
Western
Harbor
arm
and
for
the
recent
consideration
of
the
Civic
Center
site
is
that
it's
not
only
through
the
planning
process
that
we
can
deliver
more
affordable
housing.
So
the
council's
intenders
disposal
of
the
Civic
Center
societies
to
a
registered
provider
who
would
be
looking
at
100,
affordable
homes
on
the
site
and
60
percent
of
the
150
dwellings
would
be
shared
ownership.
G
So
there's
a
number
of
things
that
the
council
can
do
in
terms
of
the
disposal
of
its
assets,
working
with
registered
providers
to
bring
forward
sites
and
bring
forward
additional
government
grant.
Funding
has
helped
to
ensure
that
two
of
the
sites
within
the
vicinity
of
the
western
Harbor
arm
will
be
100,
affordable.
G
The
other
thing
the
council
is
doing
is
looking
at
maximizing
the
Redevelopment
of
its
own
land
to
bring
forward
additional
Council
housing
and
we've
had
various
developments
being
built
at
the
moment
at
Albin,
Street
to
and
others
close
to
this
site,
bringing
forward
additional,
affordable
housing
and
looking
at
increasing
density,
to
bring
forward
more
development.
G
We
are
currently
reviewing
the
2017
local
plan
and
there
will
be
again
looking
at
trying
to
address
the
issues
of
delivery
will
be.
Where
can
we
deliver
more
housing
to
try
and
address
the
issue?
It's
a
an
issue
facing
many
of
the
councils
in
the
Southeast
and
that's
why
government
policies
are
very
much
slanted
towards
encouraging
more
sustainable
high
density
development
to
try
and
bring
forward
some
of
the
missing
300
000
dwellings
that
are
quoted
as
needed
to
meet
future
housing
needs.
So
it's
a
huge
issue
for
this
Council
and
for
many
councils.
F
A
F
A
supplementary
question
you
may
yes
thank
you
I
just
wondered
whether
any
of
those
plans
included
restrictions
on
second
homes,
like
some
other
councils,
are,
are
planning
like
Whitby
and
so
on
because
of
the
number
of
people
that
are
able
to
buy
second
homes,
and
that
again
is
squeezing
the
market.
G
The
council,
doesn't,
it
is
an
issue.
That's
been
looked
at
nationally,
I
know,
a
number
of
councils
have
tried
and
failed
to
do
that,
and
it
is
a
problem
in
terms
of
how
you
might
be
able
to
restrict
that
I
think.
Obviously,
I've
just
mentioned
two
sites
of
of
nearly
400
dwellings
that
will
be
all
affordable,
so
that
wouldn't
be
applicable
for
those
400
dwellings
because
it'd
all
be
affordable
and
benefiting
local
residents
and
those
wanting
to
get
on
the
housing
ladder.
G
But
it
is
very
difficult
in
terms
of
trying
to
look
at
legislation
to
control
second
homes,
and
that
is
a
national
issue
that
I'm
sure
will
be
looked
at
again.
A
H
Thank
you,
chairman,
I
I
will
be
brief
and
it
my
question
relates
to
consultation
and
a
recent
consultation
that
was
held
regarding
a
planning
application
at
this
event
resident
asked
a
representative
of
the
developer
that
was
present.
Why?
No
one
from
the
council
attended
this
event?
They
were
told
that
the
council
wasn't
brave
enough
now,
I,
don't
believe.
H
That's
the
reason
the
council
didn't
attend
this,
but
I
wonder
if
maybe
officers
or
members
would
like
to
explain
too
to
the
residents
of
ADA
the
reason
why
Ada
District
Council
wasn't
represented.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you,
councilor
Dan.
This
might
be
something
that
is
better.
Are
you
happy
to
reply
James,
or
would
you
prefer
it
in
writing.
G
The
the
council
generally
through
its
statement
of
community
involvement,
encourages
applicants
to
do
pre-application
consultation
and
that's
very
much.
The
the
applicant
is
requested
to
go
out
and
consult
with
the
public
and
therefore
Council
officers
wouldn't
be
involved
at
that
pre-application
stage.
G
When
a
planning
application
submitted,
then
the
council
does
its
own
publicity
and
seeks
response
through
site
notices
and
director
letters
and
generally
wouldn't
appear
at
a
a
developer
consultation
event
during
the
course
of
a
current
planning
application.
So
hopefully
that
that's
generally
the
the
view
I
suppose
if
officers
were
specifically
invited,
would
have
to
make
it
clear
that
it
wasn't
a
council
consultation.
It
was
a
developer
consultation
and
that's
where
it's
slightly
difficult
for
for
officers.
Who've
got
a
a
quasi-statury
role
in
determining
a
planning
application.
G
A
lot
of
these
consultation
events
are
arranged
for
the
developer
to
meet
the
public
and
explain
how
their
schemes
evolving
or
developed
as
a
result
of
pre-application
or
post
consultation
discussions
and
comments.
I
A
I
A
Have
overruled
it
for
councilor,
Dunn
I
think
we
will
go
and
finish
the
agenda
and
ask
James
to
start
on
this
application,
because
it
is
a
long
application.
Thank.
A
Thank
you.
So
now
we
go
to
confirmation
of
minutes.
Are
the
committee
happy
to
agree?
This
is
a
true
record
and
they
can
be
signed
off
agreed.
Thank
you
and
item
five
items
reads
under
urgency.
Provisions
there
are
none.
So
just
before
we
go
to
the
first
of
the
planning.
Applications
can
I
just
say
that
if
they're
gentlemen
and
ladies
wish
to
take
their
jackets
off
because
it
is
very
warm
in
here,
please
do
so
so
now.
A
G
Thank
you,
chair,
I'll,
start
out
off
just
running
through
some
of
the
slides.
Some
of
the
key
points
highlight
some
of
the
key
issues
that
the
committee
report
raises
and
my
colleague
Mr
Cantwell,
will
provide
some
further
updates.
Members
will
see
that
there's
been
a
an
addendum
report
with
some
additional
consultation
and
representations
letters
and
some
updates
on
two
or
three
outstanding
points,
there's
also
as
part
of
the
addendum.
G
The
applicants
response
to
a
number
of
comments
received
at
the
the
events
that
are
referred
to
earlier.
In
particular,
the
one
on
the
29th
of
August
is
set
out
in
the
addendum.
G
So
there
we
have
the
application
site
edged
in
red
you'll,
see
the
rnli
Lifeboat
station
just
to
the
the
right
of
the
site
and
the
old
customs
house,
building
adjacent
to
the
site
where
there
is
a
a
public
footpath
leading
down
to
Kingston
Beach,
which
is
a
Village
Green.
G
The
application
site
extends
across
to
the
adjoining
development
site
of
Kingston
Wharf
that
was
mentioned
earlier
and
that's
a
site
that
has
planning
permission
for
255
dwellings
and
a
storage
and
Enterprise
managed
office
floor.
Space
development
to
the
north
of
the
site
are
the
Residential
Properties
in
Brighton
Road
and
just
looking
southwards,
across
towards
Shoreham
Beach,
we're
obviously
very
close
to
the
harbor
mouth
entrance.
G
There's
the
customs
house
building
and
there's
the
listed
Lighthouse
that's
considered
in
the
application
in
terms
of
Heritage,
as
well
as
the
conservation
area
and
Shoreham
Fort
mentioned
in
the
committee
report
and
the
assessment
of
impacts
on
Heritage
assets
surrounding
the
site.
It's
another
view
just
of
the
lighthouse
looking
westwards
there.
You
can
just
see
the
the
custom
house
chimneys
there
and
Pitch
roof
with
the
site
beyond
that.
G
Looking
then
in
the
other
direction
along
the
site,
Frontage
the
the
scale
of
the
two-story
properties
on
the
north
side
of
the
road
and
I'll
just
go
through
some
of
the
images.
This
was
just
a
an
image
of
the
previous
withdrawn
scheme
in
2017.
G
This
is
there
really
just
to
mention
that
the
architects
involved
with
this
scheme
are
also
involved
with
the
current
application
and
therefore
the
Architects
have
been
involved
with
this
site.
For
some
time
there
was
considerable
concern
about
density
height,
and
this
is
a
a
much
larger
development
of
136
dwellings
that
was
previously
withdrawn.
G
G
The
application
and
the
scheme
was
presented
to
the
regional
design
panel
and
the
regional
design
panel,
and
your
officers
have
sought
to
make
a
number
of
design
changes
to
the
scheme
which
are
set
out
in
the
report
in
terms
of
simplifying
the
the
roof,
the
the
the
the
form
of
the
seventh
and
eighth
floor
of
the
block
of
flats.
The
criticism
of
the
scheme
from
design
panel
was
the
relationship
between
the
townhouses
and
the
block
of
flats
and
you'll
see
the
bottom
images
the
previously
submitted
scheme
or
superseded
drawings.
G
There
was
a
sort
of
external
circulation
to
the
flats,
which
was
this
element
here
and
through
discussions
with
the
design
panel,
the
internal
layout
was
changed
to
ensure
more
dual
aspect:
Flats
less
single-facing
units,
but
also
to
try
and
create
a
visual
break
between
the
townhouses
and
the
block
of
flats,
which
was
missing
on
the
plans,
as
originally
submitted
and
as
amended,
you
can
see
the
element
that's
been
taken
out
to
have
a
drop
down
and
then
step
up
for
the
block
of
flats
proposed
departments.
G
There
are
a
number
of
design
changes,
as
you
can
see
in
terms
of
materials
and
finishes,
and
they're
documented
in
detail.
In
the
committee
report,
I've
got
some
visuals
of
the
scheme,
certainly
elevationally.
G
It's
easier
to
see
this
scheme
in
a
three-dimensional
form,
partly
because
a
number
of
the
elements
of
the
scheme,
in
particular
the
Stagger
of
the
townhouses
along
the
river
Frontage
and
the
slight
stagger
to
the
townhouses
onto
Kingston
Beach,
are
sort
of
shown
in
these
images,
as
well
as
the
setback
of
the
top
floor,
which
is
clearly
apparent
from
some
of
the
three-dimensional
plans
indicated
here.
G
One
of
the
concerns
has
been
around
the
the
overall
height
and
scale
of
the
eight-story
block
of
flats
and
through
various
incremental
changes
and
setting
back
and
cutting
back
of
the
top
floor
and
the
Penthouse
at
the
top.
Your
officers
feel
that
the
the
the
changes
have
enhanced
the
overall
appearance
of
the
development.
G
Some
further
images
of
the
scheme
looking
out
to
the
harbor
mouth,
looking
to
see,
in
particular
the
elevational
design,
changes
to
give
more
nautical
feel
to
set
back
and
to
lighten
the
the
top
floor.
Penthouse
setback
from
the
edges
of
the
development
there's
also
changes
in
terms
of
the
overall
approach
to
fenestration
and
subdivision
of
the
the
main
facade
of
the
flats.
G
The
the
scheme
there's
another
view
looking
towards
the
lighthouse
in
terms
of
the
negotiations
on
design
and
in
considering
the
Heritage
impacts.
Your
officers
have
involved
Heritage
expert
at
the
regional
design
panel
on
the
on
the
assessment
of
the
scheme,
and
the
council's
design
and
conservation
officer
has
been
considering.
Does
the
incremental
design
changes?
G
It's
been
quite
a
long
iterative
process
in
terms
of
agreeing
a
number
of
these
design
changes
as
schemes
evolved,
but
the
design
and
conservation
Architects
also
considered
it
in
terms
of
any
impacts
on
Heritage
assets
and
considered
that
the
impact
was
less
than
substantial
in
mppf
terms
and
was
supportive
of
the
design
approach
of
obviously
taking
lower
townhouses,
rather
than
previous
attempts
at
redeveloping
The
Cider
high
density
apartment
blocks
got
some
other
images
at
street
level
just
to
sort
of
again
that's
the
custom
house,
that's
very
close
to
the
back
edge
of
the
road
there,
the
townhouses
running
along
the
frontage
and
then
adjacent
to
Kingston
Beach.
G
You
can
see
from
the
aerial
shots
that
these
top
floor
elements
are
set
back
some
distance
from
the
facade
of
the
building
onto
Kingston
Beach,
some
other
views
within
the
internal
Courtyard
again
parking.
There
was
a
discussion
about
reducing
parking
down
further
when
the
scheme
was
being
looked
at
in
terms
of
increasing
Landscaping,
but
it
was
considered
important
to
retain
a
sufficient
parking
for
the
townhouses
and
for
the
flats
officers
and
the
County
Council
are
satisfied
that
the
appropriate
level
of
car
parking
is
provided
to
serve
the
development.
G
There's
a
view
along
the
river
Frontage.
This
is
showing
the
new
flood
defense
wall.
That's
going
along
here.
There
was
a
a
question
submitted
in
relation
to
the
provision
of
the
recreational
cycle
path
along
the
river
Frontage.
G
It
is
important
that
that
is
a
joined,
Up,
Cycle
path
with
each
Development
coming
forward
and
therefore,
designs
have
been
shared
between
developers
and,
where
necessary,
we've
secured
a
requirement
in
the
legal
agreement
that
site
developers
have
to
share
and
engage
with
adjoining
land
to
ensure
the
consistent
delivery
of
the
cycle
path
along
the
river,
and
this
scheme
has
been
amended
to
ensure
that
there
is
space
for
the
a259
segregated
psychopath.
That's
shown
along
the
frontage
of
the
site,
so
the
whole
development
has
been
set
back.
G
This
is
obviously
the
first
time
that
a
western
Harbor
arms
site
has
come
in,
for
townhouses
generally
have
been
higher
density,
residential
development,
the
setback
of
from
the
road
Frontage
and
the
provision
of
quite
a
wide,
as
required
by
The
Joint
air
action
plan
cycle
Plath
along
the
river
as
well
reduces
the
developable
area
of
the
site,
but
it's
still
a
long
expanse
of
public
realm
to
provide
and
flood
defense
wall.
G
Therefore,
viability
has
been
an
issue
with
this
site.
You'll
see
from
the
committee
report
that
your
officers
engaged
independent
Consultants
to
review
the
viability
assessment
submitted
by
the
applicants
and
our
Consultants
agree
that
this
is
a
site
that
could
not
deliver
affordable
housing
on
site
and
accepted
the
viability
case
presented
since
that
time.
G
Further
negotiations
have
been
undertaken
with
the
applicants
and,
as
you
see
from
the
report,
the
level
of
development
contributions
has
increased
to
750
000
pounds
and
there
is
the
ability,
by
using
some
of
the
County
Council
contribution
towards
primary
schools,
to
secure
180
000
towards
off-site
provision
of
affordable.
The
contributions
are
set
out
in
the
agenda,
but
all
other
consultee
requirements
for
development
contributions
are
met.
That's
the
ccg,
County
Education
highways
and
open
space
are
provided
for
in
the
development
contributions
terms
of
the
the
floor
plans
just
go
through
the
various
floor
plans.
G
This
just
shows
the
parking
area
for
the
apartment
block
and
shows
the
relationship
to
the
ramp
serving
the
adjoining
Kingston
Wharf
development.
You
see
in
the
committee
report
that
we're
keen
to
ensure
that
there
is
a
a
work
between
the
developers
in
terms
of
the
detailed
Landscaping
scheme
on
this
margin
here
and
looking
at
a
consistent
approach
between
the
sites,
and
that
will
also,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
include
the
connection
of
the
Riverside
cycle
path.
G
They're,
just
looking
as
we
go
up
the
the
floors.
Looking
at
the
setback
top
floor
elements
of
the
townhouses,
and
you
can
see
the
the
the
setback
and
and
break
that
was
secured
following
comments
from
the
design
panel
and
also
the
introduction
of
the
internal
two
cores.
That
meant
there
was
a
lot
more
scope
for
units
to
have
a
dual
aspect.
G
I
should
just
show
this
slide
just
to
to
remind
members
of
the
Kingston
Wharf
development,
that's
adjoining
the
site
and
you
can
see
the
application
site.
Just
here
indicated
this.
This
Gap
is
consistent
with
some
of
the
other
gaps
approved
between
apartment
blocks
on
the
adjoining
Kingston
Wharf,
and
this
is
the
easy
store,
Enterprise
Center,
that's
the
commercial
part
of
the
development,
further
west
of
the
site.
G
The
key
issue
really
is
the
the
the
density
of
development,
the
relationship
with
the
lighthouse,
the
the
the
scheme
has
taken
on
board
comments
of
the
joint
error
action
plan
in
terms
of
lower
Heights
towards
the
the
listed
Lighthouse
and
that's
been
mentioned
in
a
number
of
the
representations.
G
The
the
scheme
has
now
been
amended
to
address
issues
in
terms
of
design.
Some
of
the
outstanding
matters
would
need
to
be
dealt
with
by
planning
condition.
G
One
of
those
members
you'll
see
is
that
in
relation
to
drainage,
there
are
some
some
further
modeling
of
drainage
to
ensure
that
there
is
sufficient
capacity
within
the
site
to
accommodate
surface
water
runoff
when
you're
not
able
to
discharge
into
the
river
because
of
tidal
lock
and
were
our
officers
with
the
technical
services
team
are
happy
that
that
can
be
covered
by
planning
condition,
and
certainly
that
matter
has
been
addressed
on
all
the
other
Western
Harbor
arms
sites
in
a
similar
fashion.
G
In
terms
of
other
updates
there
in
the
addendum
report
and
happy
to
take
questions
on
the
presentation,
you'll
see
that
there
is
one
change
to
the
recommendation
and
a
further
update
and
perhaps
Stephen.
Could
you
just
give
that
update
to
the
addendum
recommendation.
J
Thank
you
James.
Thank
you,
chairman
three
other
points,
since
the
addendum
report
was
finalized.
Firstly,
regarding
noise,
the
environmental
health
officer
is
considered
further
information
from
the
applicant,
and
this
is
examined
the
effect
of
the
north
phasing
elevation
being
the
one
which
is
most
noise
susceptible
and
that
that
actually
also
is
the
least
in
the
glare
of
the
Sun,
so
overheating
and
adjusting
ventilation
to
suit
those
conditions
is
least
problematic.
J
There
he's
also
considered
that
the
balconies
to
the
flats
facing
the
road
provide
some
partial
screening
for
noise
from
the
street
and
is
agreeable
to
the
use
of
a
planning
condition
which
there
is
condition
37
in
the
agenda,
but
is
asked
that
a
slight
Amendment
be
made
to
that
to
include
the
requirement
for
an
overheating
assessment
to
be
submitted
when
those
details
are
settled
which
will
eventually
lead
to
the
specific
design
of
things
like
Windows
and
internal
ventilation,
and
what
that
may
do
in
visual
terms
is
quite
minor.
J
We
expect,
which
is
the
window
of
Divisions
within
the
the
openings,
may
change
slightly
to
provide
fan
lights,
possibly
so
that
short-term
Purge
ventilation
is
easier,
rather
than
using
large
patio
doors
which
have
to
be
pulled
all
the
way
back.
The
second
Point
again
from
the
environmental
health
officer,
is
that
the
air
air
quality
assessment
he
agrees
with
and
has
noted
that
mitigations
for
what
he
sees
as
negligible
overall
air
quality
impacts
in
this
particular
case,
would
be
in
the
form
of
car
club
provision
and
also
electronic
vehicle
charging.
J
The
third
Point
chairman
is
regarding
light
impacts
of
the
development.
We
were
expecting
to
see
more
on
this,
and
we
do
have
and
you'll
note
from
the
addendum
paper.
We've
had
further
information,
which
has
allowed
the
port
authority
to
confirm
that
they
are
happy
with
the
proposals
subject
to
two
changes.
J
One
is
to
one
of
the
conditions
asking
for
the
ability
to
fine-tune
lighting
design
at
the
lighting
design
stage,
and
thereafter
they've
asked
for
a
clause
to
be
included
in
the
legal
agreement
that,
if
any
unforeseen
light
impact
beyond
that
were
emerging
later
later
on
that
there
is
an
expectation
that
owners
in
the
future
would
reasonably
cooperate
with
the
port
authority
to
address
that.
J
But
the
remaining
area
of
light
impact
that
we
have
asked
for
further
information
on
is
a
more
detailed
explanation
of
the
the
assessment
that
impacts
of
The
Proposal
on
its
neighbor,
the
as
yet
unbuilt
Kingston
Wharf
development.
The
nearest
block
of
that
to
this
development
that
the
conclusion
of
the
lighting
assessment
is
that
there
would
be
unlikely
daylight
impacts
on
that
building.
We've
asked
for
more
detail
on
that
point.
We
would
ask
for
delegated
authority
to
settle
that
chairman.
So
that's
the
summation
of
the
updates.
Thank
you.
A
C
Thank
you
because
the
new
block
was
just
a
tiny
little
bit
in
the
margin.
Almost
of
your
picture,
you
couldn't
be
sure
if
that
new
block
is
taller
than
all
of
the
Kingston
Wharf
blocks,
that
haven't
come
up
yet
or
if
it's
actually
going
to
be
shorter
than
those
blocks
it
will
it
be
the
tallest
block
on
that
development.
G
The
the
block
that's
proposed,
the
apartment
block
here-
would
be
the
same
height
as
the
the
tallest
element
on
Kingston
Wharf
next
door
and,
unlike
perhaps
Kingston
Wharf,
where
they
go
up
to
eight
stories.
There's.
Obviously
the
the
penthouse
here
has
been
set
back
from
cider
and
has
a
more
articulated
sort
of
silhouette
than
the
adjoining
Kingston.
G
If
we
just
go
back
to
remind
members-
and
there
was
a
some
discussion
and
I
think
you
can
just
sort
of
see
the
the
heights
there-
that
the
tallest
element
as
part
of
Kingston
Wharf.
C
G
Sorry
Chad
just
to
clarify
this
is
the
application
drawing
for
Kingston
Wharf
before
there
was
any
idea
of
what
would
be
happening
next
door,
so
that
this
is
just
to
remind
members
of
what
was
approved
next
door.
So
that's
just
a
representation
of
what
might
be
built
next
door,
but
obviously
yes,
it's
lower
at
that
point.
That
was
before
the
the
scheme
came
forward.
G
K
Yes,
two
parts
to
this
question:
I'd
I'd
want
to
touch
on
the
issue
of
drainage,
so
I
understand.
I.
Think
we
still
have
two
holds,
am
I
right
from
the
council
technical
officer
and
West
Sussex
in
regard
to
drainage,
and
it
suggested
that
that's
dealt
with
underdelegated
powers
as
a
lay
person
to
architecture
and
building
design.
K
I
would
have
thought
that
drainage
design
is
a
fairly
integral
part
of
any
technical
considerations
and
specifications.
So
I
don't
understand
why
and
it's
not
just
this
application,
we're
continually
getting
unresolved
drainage
issues
on
applications
and
we're
being
told
trust
us
these
are
going
to
get
dealt
with.
Can
you
just
explain
to
me
why
we've
got
to
hold
and
why
we're
at
this
late
stage,
with
such
a
significant
undertaking
without
a
very
detailed
resolved,
cogent
drainage
plan.
G
I
I
agree
that
quite
often,
drainage
is
integral
to
a
lot
of
development
sites,
particularly
where
you've
got
sustainable.
Urban
drainage
schemes
and
drainage
is
integral
to
the
overall
site
slightly
different
situation
in
the
western
Harbor
arm.
In
that
there
is
the
ability
to
discharge
to
the
river
that's
accepted
by
all
parties.
The
the
issue
really
is
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
storage
to
be
designed
and
the
calculations
for
the
storage
of
surface
water
when
there's
a
tidal
lock.
So
certainly
the
technical
services
officer
originally
raised
a
holding
objection.
G
Their
latest
comments
are
saying
that
obviously
thank
you
for
the
further
information,
but
there
is
still
a
need
to
do
some
further
detailed
modeling
in
relation
to
the
the
the
to
in
to
satisfy
Technical
Services
as
sufficient
space
within
the
site.
For
now,
because
we've
had
discussion
of
this
point
because
we're
satisfied
that
there
is
space
and
it's
just
a
question
of
how
much
storage
capacity
is
designed
as
part
of
the
development
that
we're
reassured
that
that
can
be
dealt
with
by
planning
condition.
G
And
it's
not
a
matter
of
principle
here,
as
I
say,
with
the
other
developments
along
the
western
Harbor
arm,
they've
been
able
to
address
that
tidal,
lock
issue
and
capacity
design.
It's
just
our
environmental.
Our
Technical
Services
have
just
asked
for
that
additional
modeling
to
be
satisfied
that
the
current
design
incorporates
enough
capacity.
G
There
is
space
if
it's
if
it
needs
to
be
adjusted,
there's
plenty
of
space
to
increase
the
amount
of
storage
capacity
within
the
site,
so
I
think
that
that
holding
objection
has
has
largely
been
dealt
with,
but
there
is
a
still
need
for
some
more
modeling
I.
G
Think
the
key
issue
on
technical
matters
like
this
and-
and
this
is
where
you
know-
government
advice-
is
very
clear
that
if
there's
not
an
objection
and
it's
a
question
of
further
details
than
that
matter
can
be
covered
by
planning
condition
and
we're
satisfied
that
that
can
be
dealt
with
by
planning
condition.
Hence
the
recommendation.
K
Well,
just
to
come
back
on
that
really
I
still
don't
understand
why
this
is
persistently
an
issue
that
keeps
coming
back
and
and
we're
dealing
with
applications
where
this
hasn't
been
resolved.
You
know,
lighting
plans
are
in
place
all
that
other
technical
aspects,
but
drainage
keeps
coming
back
as
one
where
it's
not
resolved
when
it
comes
to
committee,
it's
going
to
be
resolved
thereafter.
What's
that
block
that's
causing
it.
G
I
I
suppose
it's
the
the
technical
requirements
that
certainly
the
applicants
drainage
consultant
felt
that
they'd
addressed
all
the
issues
and
there's
some
further.
You
know
response
back
from
Technical
Services
saying
what
you
do
need
to
do.
Some
further
modeling,
I
I
think
the
discussion
we
have
with
our
Technical
Services
is
there's
an
objection
if
it
can't
be
designed
and
accommodated
the
objections
withdrawn,
but
the
comments
about
further
modeling
and
that's
the
detail
that
would
come
with
the
the
the
full
drainage
details
under
the
planning
conditions.
G
So
we
wouldn't
be
in
a
position
of
recommending
if
we
didn't
fill
the
scheme
can
accommodate
the
the
response
to
the
technical
services.
Further
questions
and
as
I
say,
this
is
a
slightly
different
site
to
to
others
where
you're
trying
to
design
a
a
solution
and
as
I
say,
the
holding
objection
that
was
there
is,
has
now
gone.
It's
just
a
requirement
to
do
some
further
modeling
when
they
submit
their
further
drainage
details,
which
will
be
a
condition
of
every
approval.
G
Yes,
I
mean
we've:
we've
we've
included
the
the
response
in
full
in
the
the
addendum
and
there
are
the
applicants
aware
of
the
the
further
modeling
details
that
would
be
required
to
discharge
the
planning
condition.
C
Thank
you.
There
is
a
comment
about
voicing
concern
about
Lifeboat
parking
on
the
Kingston
Beach
Village
Green,
but
I
think
it
extends
to
more
than
that.
The
Lifeboat
parking
is
provided,
they've
got
their
own
car
park
to
the
west
of
the
Lifeboat
station
and
they
also
have
Mark
bays
in
front
of
the
Lifeboat
station
to
the
north,
but
that
car
park
has
no
restrictions.
C
G
I'm
not
aware
of
any
specific
proposals,
but
I
am
aware
that
the
parks
and
foreshore
manager
is
looking
at
the
the
the
the
the
kingster,
the
the
beach
Kingston
Beach
and
the
issues
around
parking
and
management
of
the
Village.
Green
will
be
something
the
council
will
need
to
address
at
some
point
potentially,
but
that
would
be
for
a
a
different
committee
and
for
a
different
decision
of
the
council
about
whether
it
did
introduce
any
sort
of
restrictions
to
parking.
G
But
so
that's
all
I
can
say.
I
am
aware
that
there
is
a
a
Kingston
Beach
management
plan
that
will
need
to
be
updated
and
the
the
the
the
Village
Green
is
on
the
the
radar
for
the
parks
and
foreshore
manager
to
to
look
at
and
I'm
sure
parking
will
be
one
of
the
things
that
will
be
addressed.
C
Only
to
say
is
or
to
ask,
is
there
a
formal
method
of
this
committee
contacting
whoever
is
is
charged
with
coming
up
with
this
plan
to
actually
back
up
and
get
on
with
it?
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
chair
I
was
at
one
of
those
meetings
all
those
years
ago.
It
doesn't
seem
like
five
years
ago,
but
it
must
have
been.
If
that's
what
that's
the
date,
that's
on
there
2017
when
I
guess
many
of
the
people
here
as
well
attended
that
meeting
when
there
were
many
objections
raised
to
the
original
application
and
our
Member
of
Parliament
came
along
and
said
he
agreed
with
us
that
it
was
total
rubbish
and-
and
so
this
this
is
the
result
we
have
now.
E
One
of
those
there
were
two
main
concerns
at
that
time,
which
seems
to
me
haven't
really
been
resolved,
and
one
was
definitely
the
lack
of
parking
provision
because
of
those
all
those
concerns
that
you
say
whether
it
is
so
restricted
and
that
there
are
public
spaces
which
really
must
remain
public
rather
than
be
taken
up
by
residents
or
visitors
of
this
development
and
the
other
was.
E
There
was
a
very
strong
objection
for
at
that
time
from
the
shore
and
Port
Authority,
and
that
was
with
regard
to
the
visibility
of
the
lighthouse
and
the
effect
that
that
might
have
on
the
the
the
traffic.
The
boats
that
were
were
come
were
coming
in
and
I
I
know
that
I
know
that
and
I
have
to
say
as
well
I'm
a
bit
disappointed
that
we've
had
this
about
three
hours
ago.
Three,
four
hours
ago,
we
were
sent
these
addendum
reports
which
for
people
who
who
work.
E
E
Really,
yes,
it
is
apart
from
what
is
here
in
from
the
Shoreham
Port
Authority,
the
about
the
their
consultation
responses
are
regarding
the
daylight
and
sunlight
lighting
impacts
estimate.
Is
there
anything
else?
Are
they
happy
with
everything
other
every
other
aspect
of
this
development?
Thank
you.
G
Certainly
chair
there's
never
been
any
mention
from
the
Port
Authority
about
concerns
about
this
development,
affecting
the
the
effectiveness
of
the
the
lighthouse.
It's
all
been
about
potential
distraction
or
potential
adverse
impact
of
lighting
on
Ships,
coming
into
the
the
the
port
and
as
you'll
see
from
the
comments
the
Port
Authority
are
now
happy.
They
are
Keen
to
ensure
that
there
is
some
ongoing
requirement
in
the
legal
agreement
that
would
address
any
potential
problem
in
the
future.
G
If
a
resident
then
sought
to
change
or
or
put
a
a
very
strong
light
or
any
outside
lighting,
that
did
cause
a
distraction
and
we're
hoping
to,
as
you
see
in
the
addendum
cover
that
by
an
ongoing
requirement
in
terms
of
the
the
management
of
that
to
address
that
by
Future
owners,
the
legal
agreement
would
be
binding
on
future
owners
of
the
the
townhouses
and
departments,
but
certainly
that
has
been,
and
that's
one
of
the
quite
difficult
constraints
of
the
site
to
deal
with,
and
the
applicants
and
The
Architects
have
worked
hard
with
the
port
authority
to
get
to
the
situation
that
they're
happy
that
this
does
address
those
potential
issues
of
safety.
L
In
in
the
addendum
there's
there
are
some
things
in
there
about
energy
use
and,
in
particular,
more
sustainable
energy
use
in
the
development.
One
of
the
things
that
said
in
there
is
that
the
developer
on
air
source
heat
pumps-
they
will
certainly
be
considered.
L
That's
kind
of
you
know.
One
can
consider
a
lot
of
things,
but
not
go
for
it.
Is
there
anything
they
that
we
can
strengthen
in
terms
of
encouraging
the
developer
to
to
take
that
step.
G
Yes
and
I
mean
given
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
impact
of
climate
change
and
the
concerns
of
local
residents.
That
particularly
responded
to
those
concerns
in
the
comments
in
the
addendum
I
think
it's
always
difficult
for
a
planning
perspective
because
they
are
policy
compliant
in
terms
of
the
12
renewable
through
the
PV
and
the
31
31
carbon
reduction
they're
committing
to
connect
to
a
district
heat
Network
for
the
the
the
flats.
G
But
you
rightly
say
they're
they're,
prepared
to
consider
I
mean
certainly
that's
something
that
the
applicant
might
comment
on
when
they
they
speak
in
due
course.
We
could
certainly
put
an
informative
to
any
decision
that
sort
of
encouraged
that
that
approach.
G
It's
difficult,
because
government
advice
to
planning
authorities
is
that
this
will
be
dealt
with
through
building
regulations
and
certainly
is
Worthing
found.
Trying
to
add
more
stringent
sort
of
sustainability.
Requirements
in
a
local
plan
failed
because
of
that
fact
that
this
will
ultimately
be
dealt
with
by
building
regular
regulations
and
and
due
course,
but
it
is
policy
compliant.
But
as
you
say,
you've
picked
up
on
the
applicant
is
going
to
consider
that,
and
perhaps
an
applicant
can
comment
on
that.
G
We
certainly
could
put
a
planning
condition
requiring
the
energy
strategy
to
be
submitted
in
an
informative
to
encourage
the
use
of
more
renewable
solution
and
certainly
move
away
from
a
gas
solution
for
any
any
energy
strategy
for
the
site.
K
Sorry
I'm,
just
I'm
gonna,
have
to
come
back
to
this
question
again
about
the
drainage.
I
can't
see
anything
from
the
technical
officers
who
we
employ
to
do
a
technical
job,
saying
that
the
the
holding
objection
is
removed
that
there's
a
whole
list
of
things
that
they've
asked
to
happen,
but
I
can't
actually
see
anybody
there
saying
so
the
holding
objection
is
no
longer
in
place.
Can
you
assist
on
that.
G
Yeah,
we've
certainly
included
in
full
the
the
the
further
information
that
the
the
council's
Technical
Services
team
of
of
raised.
Certainly
in
discussions,
there
was
never
an
indication
that
we
couldn't
cover
this
by
planning
condition
and
that's
what
I've
referred
to
earlier.
But
there's
there's
nothing
in
the
addendum
and
the
response
that
says:
we've
removed
our
holding
objection
to
this,
but
certainly
in
discussions
that
they're
satisfied
it
could
be
addressed
with
the
revised
modeling
that
is
has
been
requested
there.
On
page
10.
C
Contrary
to
what
you've
heard,
I
attended,
the
consultation
and
I
was
present
for
two
hours
at
the
harbor
Club,
going
over
the
data
that
was
provided
by
the
developer,
and
one
of
the
things
that
stood
out
to
me
was
not
on
the
site.
It
was
the
provision
of
the
cycle
path,
which
would
be
two
meters
wide
along
the
road.
If
you
can
get
the
one
up,
that's
the
aerial
view,
which
includes
the
that
sort
of.
Does
it
it's
the
one
that
includes
the
old
customs
house
and
the
question
I
have?
I
C
It
right
there,
oh
right,
so
the
two
meter
psychopath
goes
along
the
front
of
that
development
very
nicely,
but
if
we
are
going
to
have
any
kind
of
joined
up
thinking,
where
does
the
two
meter
cycle
path
go
when
the
footprint
of
the
customs
house
seems
to
overlap
the
psychopath?
Is
there
a
plan?
Thank
you.
G
I
understand
that
the
County
Council,
while
gearing
up
for
a
further
detailed
consultation
on
the
a259
segregated
path,
the
extensive
development
sites
coming
forward,
the
setback
partly
is
influenced
by
what
land
is
available
on
the
north
side
of
the
road
and
I
I.
Don't
know
offhand
how
the
the
the
design
of
the
scheme
is
to
the
east
of
the
site.
G
I
suspect
that
looking
at
the
land,
that's
been
set
back
there
that
there
would
be
an
implication
on
the
customs
house
and
and
Village
Green,
and
that
would
have
to
be
addressed
through
discussions
between
councils.
But
in
terms
of
this
development
site,
it's
been
set
back
as
required
by
the
County
Council
to
meet
its
requirements.
A
M
Madam
chair
here
we
are
again
councilors
another
development
along
the
western
Harbor
arm.
Another
recommendation
to
approve,
subject
to
certain
conditions,
but
once
again,
you're
actually
being
asked
to
approve
an
application
where
major
components
remain
unresolved.
Ada
flood
watch
have
reminded
you
that
holding
objections
do
still
remain
from
West
Sussex,
local
flood
Authority
and
your
own
Technical
Services
regarding
surface
drainage
and
potential
flood
risks.
They
say
it
is
not
clear
that
drainage
can
be
secured.
M
The
desire
of
counsel
and
applicant
to
make
resolution
of
this
a
condition
to
be
addressed
later,
because
that's
what
we
did
at
free
Wharf
is
not
acceptable.
The
potential
for
a
major
flood
event
is
a
substantial
consideration
for
this
committee.
Not
a
tea
to
be
crossed
or
an
eye
to
be
dotted
later.
M
M
You
can
show
that
there
is
real
substance
to
the
council's
zero
carbon
policy
by
refusing
to
adopt
a
proposal
that
includes
Reliance
on
gas,
be
embarrassed
that
the
neighboring
Lifeboat
station
and
Port
are
years
ahead
of
this
proposal
in
the
use
of
then
renewable
energy
Ada
has
a
considerable
housing
need.
New
homes
should
be
and
are
being
built.
Ada
has
the
highest
differential
between
the
average,
first-time
buyers,
salary
and
average
property
price
in
the
country.
M
Yet
here
we
are
considering
a
development
with
no
affordable
housing
that
will
not
be
of
benefit
to
the
people
of
ADA
the
developers,
own
viability,
study
uses
the
abnormal
costs
associated
with
the
development
of
this
site
as
mitigation
for
not
providing
any
affordable
housing,
let
alone
the
council's
policy
21
Target
of
30
percent.
They
go
on
to
tell
us
that
the
high
specification
due
to
the
target
market
for
waterfront
properties
adds
to
their
costs.
M
The
New,
National
planning
policy
framework
states
that
there
is
a
presumption
in
favor
of
sustainable
development
which
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
area.
This
does
not.
You
can
reject
this
proposal
as
it
stands
tonight
and
allow
the
developer
to
resubmit,
with
an
alternative
energy
policy
prior
to
a
district
heating
system
resolution
of
the
drainage
issues
and
the
inclusion
of
on-site,
affordable
housing,
rather
than
a
modest
section,
106
contribution.
M
A
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
Harvey
and
could
I
ask
please
that
we
did
you
finish.
Thank
you
very
much.
Just
could
I
ask
not
to
clap
in
between
with
the
speakers.
Everyone
deserves
to
be
heard
and
there
will
be
different
views
coming
from
everybody.
Thank
you.
So
the
next
person
to
speak
is
Barb
O'kelly.
Thank
you
and
you
have
three
minutes.
N
I've
altered
some
of
my
statement
for
tonight
because
of
today's
posting
of
the
viability
study
for
ader
Council
published
in
June,
and
no
only
now
on
the
day
of
the
meeting
posted
on
the
website.
Is
this
growth,
inefficiency
or
panic,
because
you
know
that
local
people
are
irate
that
this
unwanted
development
contains
no
affordable
housing?
Is
it
right
that
large
developers
expect
15
to
20
percent
profit
at
the
expense
of
local
residents
who
need
the
affordable
housing?
N
The
speakers
tonight
received
no
notice
of
this
addendum
and
does
this
show
no
respect
to
these
residents,
who
are
speaking
who've
spent
long
hours
in
preparation
reading
documents
to
speak
tonight
at
this
meeting
now
the
was
planned
by
eight
or
counselors
and
officers
who
wrote
the
policies.
Yet
here
we
sit
discussing
a
development
which
breaks
the
guidelines
that
they
themselves
have
set,
as
well
as
contravening
a
number
of
policies
in
the
local
plan.
In
the
toll
building
study.
This
scheme,
due
to
its
scale
and
mousing,
fails
to
reflect
the
local
character
of
this
coastal
town.
N
The
the
toll
building
study
and
the
local
plan
all
state
that
Heights
no
more
than
five
stories
be
allowed
to
protect
the
setting
of
The
Lighthouse
Ada
conservation
group
recommends
just
three
to
four
stories.
This
site
was
marked
as
the
gateway
to
the
Western
Harbor
arm
and
Shoreham,
and
will
be
a
Gateway
instead
to
a
canyon.
A
concrete
tower
blocks
chap
requires
high
quality
public
open
space
in
green
infrastructure
on
site.
There
is
no
adequate
open
space,
90
squares
meters,
there's
quoting
particularly
for
children
to
run
around
and
play.
N
There
are
no
back
Gardens
in
the
roof
Terraces.
Some
there's
not
that
many
are
not
a
safe
place
to
play
using
s106
money
to
improve
spaces
elsewhere
is
not
the
answer
when
you
have
to
cross
the
a259
to
get
to
them.
The
design
panel
suggested
the
courtyard
should
provide
shared,
meaning
immunity,
spaces.
This
area
is
used
for
car
access
and
parking
with
the
danger
from
reversing
cars
and
trapped
air
pollution.
Adding
another
access
point
to
this
narrow
section
of
the
a259
with
a
blind
Bend
will
make
this
already
dangerous
part
of
the
road.
N
Even
worse,
a
development
on
this
site
was
refused
in
2008,
citing
that
access
Arrangements
would
cause
significant
detriment
to
highway
safety
and
obstruct
traffic
flow.
The
only
thing
that
has
changed
is
that
there
is
much
much
more
traffic
when
we
went
to
the
consultation.
The
developer
was
not
aware
of
any
common
brief
for
the
cycle
and
walkways
at
this.
At
the
consultation.
When
we
asked
him
a
question,
the
council
statement
of
acute
Community
involvement
was
not
followed.
N
There
was
no
notice
in
the
local
paper
due
to
the
last
minute
decision
by
the
Developers
right
I'm
going
to
skip
a
bit
now.
What
I
hope
will
not
influence
your
decision
is
the
comment
made
of
the
Civic
Center
planning
meeting
that
if
the
development
is
refused
and
the
developer
appeals
that
could
cause
the
council
a
lot
of
money,
it's
our
money
and
we
give
you
permission
to
risk
that
legal
challenge,
as
you
will
have
seen
from.
A
O
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
I'm
a
resident
of
Brighton
Road
I
live
opposite.
O
O
The
comments
I
put
forward
were
my
concerns
for
the
infrastructure
and
the
plans
for
it,
the
safety
of
it
on
the
road,
the
a259
and
how
that
could
increase
already
tumultuous
traffic
and
also
the
accessibility
of
the
housing
which
other
people
have
mentioned
here
quite
clearly
and
literally
this
evening.
O
What
I'd
like
to
say
about
the
infrastructure
is
I,
did
contact
Tim
lauten
several
weeks
ago
to
ask
about
this
and
he'd
been
lobbying
the
Regeneration
Minister
about
the
very
quick
growth
of
the
ideal
area.
Now,
I
do
appreciate
that
we
do
need
housing
in
the
area,
but
having
looked
at
the
Aida
website
and
actually
having
contacted
representatives
of
Ida
Council
to
get
the
up-to-date
list
of
how
many
homeless
people
there
they
couldn't
provide
that.
O
But
the
stats
that
I
looked
at
was
saying
that
there's
just
under
7
000
households
that
are
homeless
now,
I
appreciate
that
we
need
to
have
a
mixed
array
of
housing.
But
surely,
as
a
long-standing
resident
and
many
of
my
neighbors
are
behind
me
now,
we
should
be
focusing
on
actually
re-housing
people
and
families
and
couples
and
individuals
that
are
already
living
in
the
Ada
area
first
and
foremost,
and
making
that
accessible,
not
just
affordable
but
accessible.
O
O
If
we
have
not
looking
at
the
increase
in
getting
GPS
in
the
area,
because
we
haven't
got
enough
GPS
that
are
living
in
the
area,
if
we
are
not
increasing
the
quality
of
the
access
to
primary
and
secondary
schooling,
this
is
looking
at
a
plan
that
could
be
short-sighted
rather
than
a
plan
that
is
going
to
be
looking
for
generations
to
come
now.
I
appreciate
that's
empty
land,
it
needs
to
be
used,
but
it
needs
to
be
used,
sensitively,
ethically
and
considerately
and
I
do
believe.
O
The
height
of
the
flats
is
way
too
high,
but
also
I
am
concerned
that
actually
the
housing
register
is
saying
that
most
people
are
looking
for
one
and
two
bedroom
Flats,
not
the
three
bedroom
houses
that
are
allocated
I
would
say
that
this
needs
to
be
thoroughly
looked
at
before
agreed.
Thank
you
for
listening.
P
Thank
you,
chair,
I'm
speaking
today
on
behalf
of
the
Sean
Beach
residences
Association.
This
site
is
very
prominent
in
views
across
the
Harbor
from
the
beach
and
will
be
the
gateway
to
Shoreham
from
the
East.
The
applicant
offered
our
association
a
consultation
four
days
before
this
meeting,
but
we
consider
that
our
concerns
were
unlikely
to
be
resolved
in
the
time
frame.
P
Although
Asia
is
marginally
short
of
a
five-year
housing
land
Supply,
it
is
important
to
remember
that
this
is
not
a
Greenfield
site
that
relies
on
allocation
in
the
local
plan.
The
plan
doesn't
restrict
the
supply
of
housing
here
so
the
way
to
forward
it
to
the
local
plan
policies
must
remain
high.
P
That
means
that
failure
to
deliver
a
policy
of
compliant
level
of
affordable
housing
is
a
departure
from
the
development
plan
which
the
officer
officers
report
accepts.
It
is
also
important
to
recognize
that
the
proposals
on
allocated
sites
are
deemed
to
be
viable
by
default,
as
as
viability
is
tested
on
a
plan-wide
basis.
P
I've
looked
carefully
at
the
viability,
work
and
I
note
two
things.
The
council's
consultant
recommends
an
adjustment
mechanism
to
be
included
in
the
section
106
agreement,
should
the
viability
of
the
scheme
improve
over
time.
I
think
this
is
very
important
and
should
be
added
to
the
heads
of
terms
with
section
106..
P
Secondly,
I
don't
understand
why
special
allowance
has
been
made
for
paths
in
the
Riverside
walks,
reducing
the
developable
value
area,
a
policy
requirement
isn't
an
abnormal
cost.
According
to
the
rics
I'm,
also
very
concerned
about
the
way
in
which
the
Heritage
has
been
addressed
here,
the
officers
have
identified
less
than
substantial
harm
under
the
nppf.
This
proposal
cannot
be
approved
unless
the
public
benefits
of
the
of
the
scheme
clearly
outweigh
the
harm
to
the
setting
of
The
Heritage
assets.
P
In
this
respect,
I
find
the
officers
rationale
wholly
unconvincing.
The
report
says
that
the
design
benefits
of
new
architectural
forms
plus
improved
public
access
to
the
site
are
the
public
benefits
which
outweigh
the
harm.
However,
if
the
form
of
this
development
is
causing
harm,
then
how
can
the
design
also
be
a
public
benefit
which
outweighs
that?
It's
clearly
nonsense:
I'm
deeply
uncomfortable
about
the
design.
Anyway,
it's
too
brutal
and
unyielding
for
what
is
described
as
a
Gateway
site
in
policy
wh3.
P
P
I
believe
that
this
scheme,
just
doesn't
do
just,
doesn't
do
enough
to
justify
the
damage
it
causes
and
the
various
breaches
of
the
council's
design
standards.
Approving
this
proposal
would
be
a
missed
opportunity
to
make
better
use
of
a
Gateway
site
allowing
on-site
afford
on-site,
affordable
housing,
so
more
of
our
residents
can
get
to
enjoy
some
of
the
views
over
the
river
and
produce
something
that
we
can
all
appreciate
for
many
years
to
come.
P
A
H
You
thank
you,
chairman
members,
what
she
said
so
councilor
Shin
made
a
very
interesting
point
regarding
the
drainage
and
I'm
glad
I
think
he
got.
The
answer
is
that
the
holding
objection
is
still
there
there's
quite
substantial
flood
modeling
work.
That
needs
to
be
done,
as
is
explained
in
the
reports
that
has
not
been
done.
It's
not
a
sudden
request.
H
Three
minutes
is
not
a
lot
of
time
to
address
the
many
important
issues
arising
from
this
application,
so
I
won't
in
many
respects.
This
is
a
significant
step
forward
from
what
we
have
seen
previously
and
Mr
Appleton,
indeed
to
put
up
the
slides
of
of
the
previous
application
or
withdrawn
application.
H
Over
the
last
few
years,
this
Council
has
been
assiduous
in
playing
its
part
in
the
delivery
of
much
needed
new
homes,
as
required
by
the
local
plan.
In
fact,
at
first
of
August,
2022
941
properties
have
been
given
permission.
There
is
an
additional
180,
odd
on
the
old
Civic
Center
site
and
applications
for
228
more,
including
this
one
and
the
frost
site
coming
forward.
H
Infrastructure
is
unchanged,
and
indeed
councilor
McGregor
has
even
identified
the
fact
that
we
have
to
knock
down
the
old
customs
house
and
dig
up
a
bit
of
Kingston
Green
to
to
complete
it.
Our
doctor's
practices
are
full.
You
can't
get
to
a
dentist.
We've
got
local
children
having
to
go
to
school
in
stenning.
H
Southern
water
are
regularly
discharging
sewage
into
the
sea.
So
if
evidently,
their
assurance
that,
in
this
application
that
the
infrastructure
can
cope,
smells
a
little
off
fire
and
rescue
have
said
the
provision
of
water
and
access
appears
to
be
compliant
well
appears.
Frankly,
German
is
not
really
good
enough.
I
think
this
committee
deserves
an
actual
definite
thank
you
in
their
desperation
planners.
Even
oh,
okay,.
H
Q
Thank
you,
chairman
and
good
evening,
councilors
I'm,
Joseph
Pearson
from
Lewis
and
co-planning.
We
are
the
agents
on
the
planning
application,
I'm,
also
joined
by
the
architect,
and
one
of
the
developers
who'll
follow
me
so
I'll
just
deal
with
a
few
of
the
planning
issues
and
they
will
follow
and
address
some
other
matters.
As
you'll.
No
doubt
know,
this
area
has
been
identified
for
strategic
regeneration
for
quite
a
long
time,
originally
dating
back
to
the
late
90s.
Q
Q
Your
joint
area
action
plan
sets
a
density
Target
of
a
minimum
of
100
dwellings
per
hectare.
You'll
see
in
your
committee
report
that
we're
just
shy
of
that
at
97
dwellings
per
hectare,
but
very
much
the
sort
of
density
that
was
envisioned
by
your
Council
officers
when
this
site
was
allocated,
as
has
been
covered
by
your
head,
to
planning
we're
providing
uniquely
we're
providing
homes,
as
well
as
apartments
on
this
site.
We're
currently
the
only
site
within
the
Western
Harbor
arm
where
we
are
providing
houses.
Q
And
we
see
that
as
a
positive,
because
it
enables
all
sorts
of
households
who
want
to
live
within
the
Shoreham
Harbor
Waterfront
development
to
access
the
housing
they
need
and
not
just
be
restricted
to
people
who
want
to
live
in
an
apartment
or
have
access
to
the
affordable
housing.
That's
been
provided
on
other
sites.
Q
It's
been
covered
that
the
joint
area
action
plan
has
a
lot
of
requirements
for
developments
within
this
area
that
they're
all
positive
in
terms
of
providing
a
public
Waterfront
route,
six
meters
wide
within
the
site
and
a
segregated,
cycleway
and
footway
within
the
north
of
the
site
along
the
a259,
as
well
as
rebuilding
the
flood,
defenses,
improving
them
to
meet
modern
standards
and
replacing
the
river
wall
and
a
lot
of
contributions
towards
off-site
transport
improvements
that
have
been
identified
by
West
Sussex,
County
Council.
In
terms
of
Junction
capacity.
Q
These
will
come
across
the
developer.
It's
been
covered,
I'm
not
going
to
cover
it
in
too
much
more
detail,
but
we've
complied
with
the
requirements
of
policy
21,
insofar
as
it
requires
us
to
provide
that
robust
financial
data
for
the
council
to
review
itself
and
to
come
to
its
own
conclusion
on
the
viability
of
the
development
which
is
done
so
with
the
support
of
its
chosen
Consultants.
Q
You
will
see
in
the
committee
report
too,
that
the
requested
contributions
are
all
being
met.
Every
infrastructure
provider
has
provided
what
they
think
is
needed
and
we
are
going
beyond
that.
We've
in
negotiations
as
officers
we've
maximized
what
we
can
deliver
in
terms
of
financial
contributions,
so
that
there
is
an
affordable
contribution
to
off-site
Affordable,
which
wouldn't
have
been
the
case
if
we
just
followed
the
viability
review
as
it
was
written,
so
that
is
additional
to
what
we've
requested
and
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
E
You
it's
just
that.
It
worries
me
this
bit
about
the
off-site,
because
if
you
realize
we
do
not
have
any
spare
sites
here,
so
if
we're
talking
about
Shoreham
I'd
be
interested
to
know
if
you
have
any
plans
but
where,
where
that
off-site
development
might
be,
that
would
offset
your
so
that
enable
you
to
keep
within
your
financial
constraints.
Q
Yeah
well
I
I'm,
not
privy
to
some
of
the
future
information,
but
I
do
know
that
we're
working
with
Ada
on
other
applications
to
bring
forward
affordable
housing,
there's
a
ongoing
application
in
Kingston
Lane
for
sheltered,
affordable
accommodation
at
the
moment,
and
it
probably
is
too
far
forward
for
this
contribution
to
fund
that,
but
I'm
sure
that
the
major
projects
team
are
looking
at
other
sites
where
it
can
contribute
and
provide
the
financial
backing
for
those
to
be
delivered
as
well.
A
R
Good
evening,
I
just
wanted
to
answer
a
couple
of
questions
that
some
of
the
councils
have
brought
up
this
evening,
in
particular
the
drainage,
detailed
drainage
design,
the
the
when
you
get
to
it.
You
actually
need
to
do
a
full
design
for
the
entire
construction
package,
so
that
means
working
with
things
like
the
piling
design.
R
So
you'd
probably
take
about
two
to
three
months
to
do
the
entire
design
and
it
would
cost
quite
a
substantial
amount
of
money
as
well.
So
generally,
that's
deferred
into
after
planning
is,
is
done
because
otherwise
you
you're
putting
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
at
risk.
So
it's
not
that
it
can't
be
done.
It's
just
delayed
for
that
reason,
because
everyone
needs
to
work
together
on
the
affordable.
R
The
main
reason
we
don't
have
it
is
because
we
have
a
low
density,
generally
low
height
scheme.
If
we
went
back
to
previous
applications
of
130
Flats
with
three
Big
Blocks
I'm
sure
it
would
be
deliverable,
but
it's
quite
clear
that
people
wanted
low
height
for
the
majority
of
the
site,
if
not
all,
of
it
and
houses
as
opposed
to
Flats
that
reduces
the
ability
to
deliver
affordable
on
the
height
point
about
next
door.
R
R
When
you
look
at
it,
despite
there
being
an
extra
story,
sustainability,
air
source,
heat
pump,
yeah,
it's
it's
absolutely
our
desire
to
deliver
without
gas,
but
again
that's
something
where
we
need
to
get
into
the
full
detail,
design
to
be
able
to
confirm
and
there's
no
question
that
buyers
do
not
want
gas
buyers
want
sustainable
methods
and
to
avoid
gas,
if
at
all
possible
on
our
last
site
that
we're
building
just
now,
even
though
it's
not
a
requirement
again,
we
are
doing
our
source
heat
pump.
R
Parking
is
actually
more
than
is
listed
because
you
have
a
situation
in
the
houses
where
you
have
one
parking
space
behind
another.
So
technically
that
only
counts
as
one
space.
Thank
you
James,
but
in
actual
fact
means
that
you
have
two
spaces
per
house
and
then
18
spaces
for
24
Flats,
so
there
is
actually
more
parking
than
is
than
is
theoretically
listed,
so
like
constraints
generally
yeah.
This
is
a
difficult
site.
R
R
Again,
if
we
weren't
paying
for
a
harbor
wall,
I
guess
we'd
be
able
to
deliver
a
fuller
set
of
affordable,
but
we
have
to
pay
for
the
harbor
wall.
We
also
have
a
lot
of
other
constraints,
such
as
the
navigational
lighting,
so
yeah
I
think
we've
done
a
lot
in
the
last
year
to
deliver
on
what
is
a
difficult
site.
So
thank.
A
L
I
absolutely
get
what
you're
saying
about
having
to
pay
for
the
harbor
wall,
but
and
I
get
what
you're
saying
the
committee
and
and
people
wanted
a
a
less
dense
development,
but
it
is
a
luxury
development.
Isn't
it
in
the
sense
that
the
houses
are
up
to
what
800
000
pounds
each
I
think
17
of
them
are
about
eight
hundred
thousand.
So
the
fact
that
it
is
a
relatively
small
scale,
very
luxurious
or
luxurious
development
must
in
itself
push
the
costs
up.
L
R
This
is
an
interesting
point
and
we
spend
as
developers
a
lot
of
time,
modeling
different
things
and
see
how
they
work.
R
If
you
went
to
you
know
low
height,
much
lower
density
across
the
whole
site,
you
just
wouldn't
get
past
the
existing
use
value,
never
mind
the
infrastructure
point,
so
you
definitely
couldn't
deliver
affordable
by
doing
that,
I
don't
believe
that
there's
any
method
by
which
you
could
achieve
affordable
housing
by
doing
low
density
on
this
site.
If
you
went
to
the
sort
of
density,
you've
got
elsewhere,
yeah,
quite
possibly
so
down
down
the
harbor
on,
but
no
you've
got
a
high
existing
use
slightly.
R
A
lot
of
high
infrastructure
costs
to
start
with
whether
it
be
the
fact
you're
on
silt
and
you've
got
a
pile
it.
Even
if
you're
only
two
stories
to
the
harbor
arms,
all
those
sorts
of
things
I,
don't
believe
having
modeled
it.
A
number
of
ways
and
I
spend
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
spreadsheets
modeling
things
that
there's
only
method
by
which
you
could
end
up
with
a
full
contingent
of
affordable
on
it
other
than
going
high
density,
High,
height,
I
I.
R
Don't
actually
believe
that
on
Urban
sites,
private
developers
are
going
to
be
delivering
any
affordable
anywhere
for
quite
some
time,
I
think
it's
only
possible
on
Urban
sites
via
registered
housing
providers
with
government
grants
even
on
sites
in
in
Brighton,
where
we're
looking
at
substantially
higher
costs.
Sorry
higher
resale
values
per
square
foot,
it's
becoming
almost
impossible
as
well.
The
build
cost
has
gone
up
20
in
the
last
six
months
across
the
board
and
that
that
really
wipes
it
out.
So
we've
gone
beyond
what
the
viability
has
told
us.
E
And
yes,
this
viability
of
you
say:
180
000
for
the
off-site,
affordable
housing.
Obviously
have
do
you
have
any
contingency
for
clearly
we're
in
a
time
of
of
inflation
when
building
costs
are
increasing,
do
you
have
any
contingency
to
cover
for
that
at
all.
R
Well,
we
would,
we
would
normally
allow
sort
of
three
to
five
percent.
Contingency
I
would
imagine
that
will
get
spent.
But,
as
someone
previously
mentioned,
there
is
a
clawback
mechanism
in
the
section
106
so
that
if
profit
goes
past
a
certain
point,
then
it
is
clawed
back.
So,
regardless
of
whether
it's
contingency
in
the
build
or
increased
resale
values,
then
there
is
already
a
mechanism
by
which
affordable
housing
is
provided
and
paid
for
should
there
be
increased
ability
to
do
so.
So
you
you
have
that
in
the
section
106.
R
S
Chair
councilors,
thank
you.
I
think.
Ed
variably
spoke
through
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
that
we've
all
picked
up
on
tonight
and
perhaps
what
I,
what
I
can
bring
to
it
is
somebody
who
has
lived
in
Shoreham
got
married
and
married
to
her.
It's
had
children
here
and
feels
very
passionate
about
the
area.
S
I
I
I
take
the
point
about
unethical
to
heart,
because
actually
we
were
the
Architects
for
Cecil
Norris
house
and
we're
The
Architects
for
for
Albion
Street,
the
first
affordable
housing
delivered
in
Aida
Council
for
35
years,
and
we
we
committed
to
that
scheme
to
that
to
those
projects
way
and
above
what
you
would
typically
do
under
a
typical
fee
scale.
S
So
I,
I,
I,
I,
sat
I
sit
here
as
cancer
O'neill
can
attest
to
somebody.
Who's
been
involved
in
this
scheme
for
many
many
years
since
2018..
S
The
scheme,
as
we
said
today,
was
something
where
Tim
louton
Warwick
Baker
and
the
residents
of
of
Shoreham
of
the
the
Brighton
Road
residence
Association.
We
met
in
a
closed
room
in
Southwick
and
we
discussed
the
BR
in
Broad
terms.
We
discussed
what
we
have
here
today
on
the
on
the
table
in
that
scheme
was
an
eight-story
building
block
of
flats,
where
it's
positioned
now
on
the
table
that
day
was
a
gap
in
the
buildings,
as
we
see
it
today
and
on
the
table.
S
As
we
see
it
today
was
a
slightly
higher
Northern
element
or
Northern
component
on
the
onto
the
road,
so
we
have
actually
adapted
and
reduced
the
height
of
the
of
the
buildings
to
the
north,
the
point
being
that,
because
we'd
gone
through
the
previous
machinations
of
the
135
or
136
unit
scheme,
we
knew
that
there
is
an
intractable
issue
where,
if
you
provide
one
and
two
bed
flats-
and
we
hear
these
these
comments
about
what
people
want,
you
then
get
a
higher
density,
as
my
clients
alluded
to
as
Ed's
alluded
to,
and
then
you
get
more
parking
demand,
so
we
then
get
up
find
ourselves
going
back
into
this
full
spin.
S
What
we
have
here
is
the
right
scheme
for
this
site.
It
absolutely
is,
it
has
been
worked
on
for
for
over
four
years,
I've
been
through
every
process,
and
we've
been
very
much
looking
hard
at
how
we
can
make
every
single
sinew
of
this
process
work
for
you.
For
us.
We've
worked
with
James
Stephen
Richard
the
whole
of
the
Ada
team
in
an
in
an
exemplary
way.
They
have
been
brilliant
in
this
process
and
we
have
adapted
the
design
to
suit
that's.
S
How
planning
should
be
in
terms
of
the
residing
issues
that
Council
shiny
talk
about
every
scheme?
I've
worked
on
up
to
64
million
has
had
a
a
residual
issue
that
we
need
to
just
to
work
through
in
detail
terms
with
Suds
with
sustained
worm
drainage.
It
always
does
they
always
do
for
the
reason
that
Ed
said,
because
it
involves
a
very
acute
look
at
the
technical
design
of
those
schemes.
S
Funny
you
ask
councilman
McGregor.
Thank
you.
The
practice
is
a
is
an
international
award-winning
practice.
We
are.
We
stake
our
claim
on
sustainability.
This
is
what
we
are
about
and
we
we
did
it
with
Cecil
Norris
and
we're
doing
it
on
Albion
Street
Albion
Street,
as
a
as
a
as
a
an
extraordinary
process
has
been
a
council
scheme
that
is
the
most
sustainable
masonry,
build
that
you
can
build.
It
uses
93
sand
and
seven
percent
lime.
S
I
think
rest
assured
that
that
the
comment
about
gas,
that
that
is
again
a
residual
issue
and
it
comes
down
in
some
in
some
part
to
the
the
heat
Network
that
we're
tapping
into
that,
and
there
was
this
this
issue
of
the
markets:
evolving,
we're
now
seeing
electric
immersion
and
electric
storage
and
electrified
housing
in
terms
of
their
Heating
and
hot
water
provision.
S
If
we're
going
to
achieve
sustainability
in
our
modern
developments,
we
must
make
it
fabric
first.
It
has
to
work
through
the
fabric
of
the
building
before
anything
else.
That's
what
we
are
focused
on
in
this
scheme.
That
then
means
that
there
is
room
to
maneuver
in
terms
of
the
photovolt
panels
and
the
rainwater
attenuation.
That's
on
the
roof.
In
addition
to
going
into
the
landscaped
areas,
there
are
going
to
be
things
that
developers
an
outcome
of
this
councilor
McGregor.
S
So
thank
you
for
asking,
but
this
will
be
a
highly
sustainable
scheme
and
I
believe
it
would
be
absolutely
Fair
for
us
to
work
to
an
informative
or
to
some
some
supplementary,
a
bit
of
information
where
we
we
can
provide
and
demonstrate
that
as
technical
design,
moves
forward
and
I.
Think
Mr
or
James
mentioned
that
earlier
on,
that
that
might
be
something
we'd
be
prepared
to
do.
L
Thank
you
earlier
on,
James
referred
to
the
building
having
a
nautical
feel
which
I
must
admit:
I'm,
not
quite
getting
I
wonder
if
you
and
someone
earlier
was
saying
it's
a
rather
I,
can't
remember
the
the
the
word
they
used.
It's
rather
severe,
looking
building,
which
I
must
admit,
I
tend
to
think
it
is,
but
I
wonder
if
you
could
tell
us
what
the
nautical
feel
is.
I.
S
So
it's
a
really
it's
a
really
interesting
point.
This
is
because
I've
been
involved
in
consultation
exercises
where
people
have
attended
Not,
Over,
My,
Dead
Body.
This
will
be
the
end
that
will
never
get
built.
That
was
the
Rope
tackle.
Lisa
McKinney
Council
of
McKinney
stood
in
the
Civic
Center
and
she
said
that
will
not
get
built.
Over,
My,
Dead,
Body
and
I
didn't
really
know
what
I
was
doing
at
that
time,
but
I've
driven
down
in
the
company
car
to
pick
up
the
presentation
but
I
did
know
it
had
been
approved.
S
I
lived
in
the
Rope
tackle
our
offices
in
the
Rope
tackle,
and
that
is
a
scheme
that
had
much
assignation
over
the
before
it
was
ever
built
and
now
look
at
it.
It
stands
as
the
thing
that
everyone
wanted
instead
of
the
north
rope,
tackle
we're
now.
The
North
Road,
whatever
the
new
scheme
is
called
I.
Think
design
is,
is
an
incredibly
emotive
subject
for
me
in
in
the
way,
the
same
way
that
fashion
works
and
clothing.
If
we
use
that
as
an
example,
we
must
work
and
strive
towards
the
highest
quality
in
implementation.
S
If
we
do
that,
everything
will
look
better
and
then
it
becomes
a
bit
esoteric
whether
the
design
is
my
cup
of
tea
or
your
property.
Regarding
the
nautical
feel
I
mean
I
can
see
where
it
comes
from.
That's
not
exactly
what
I
would
describe
it
as
for
me,
this
is
a
scheme
that
is
about
the
Junctions,
and
we
have
we've
worked
tirelessly
with
Stephen
and
James
and
Richard
in
promoting
opportunity
to
with
the
conditionality
of
the
application,
to
work
into
those
Junctions
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
leaching.
S
We
don't
get
deleterious
impact
in
the
scheme.
It's
vital
that
you,
as
a
committee,
in
my
opinion,
Embrace
that
element
of
of
the
design,
rather
than
necessarily
some
of
the
broader
impacts
of
things,
because
actually
I
think
design
is
something
that
once
you're
familiar
with.
It
starts
to
work,
and
you
start
to
get
you
start
to
like
it,
and
we
can
think
of
buildings
like
that
across
across
the
UK
and
as
designers
to
say.
S
I've
seen,
people
come
on
to
sites
and
say:
oh,
that's
the
end
and
then,
after
would
say
actually
I
quite
like
it
and
I
think
Cecil.
Norris
house
is
one
of
those
examples
where
you've
got
happy
people
living
in
high
quality
accommodation,
and
it
is
a
modern
example
of
the
highest
quality
Council
housing.
That's
been
built
in
this
area
for
35
years.
S
K
S
S
He
he's
we've
built
all
over
the
place
together
and
he
can
do
it
in
in
a
way
that
that
means
that
the
the
cost
that
we're
talking
about
are
really
attainable
costs
right
now,
but
the
issue
with
affordable
housing
is
an
intractable
issue
and
I
think
the
most
honest
thing
that
that
could
have
been
said
tonight
is
what
Ed
said
about
affordable
housing
on
private
resident,
a
private
developer-led
sites
coming
forward
ice
across
the
England,
which
is
where
we
work.
S
We
see
the
same
thing
happening
over
and
over
again
that
the
only
way
we're
going
to
get
Council
housing,
affordable
housing
is
either
councils
or
rsls
and
and
government
work
together
to
deliver
these
things,
with
contributions
from
developers
from
developments
like
this,
but
it's
getting
harder
and
harder
purely
and
simply
because
the
build
costs
and
the
technicality
to
building
to
deliver,
affordable
housing.
S
So
a
low
density
scheme
here-
and
we
tried
because
and
James
will
remember
this
and
Steve-
will
remember
this
I
put
the
drawing
out
originally
before
we
we
met
with
the
residents
on
the
third
consultation
meeting.
We
had
so
picking
up
that
point.
The
third
one
up
up
before
this
whole
process
started
before
up
until
September
2018
and
the
scheme
was
a
was
a
lower
density
scheme
than
we.
S
We
then
presented
at
the
at
the
the
meeting
in
Southwick
the
Public
Presentation
by
two
stories
on
the
flat
block,
but
actually
the
housing
was
there.
The
housing
puts
massive
pressure
on
the
flats.
It's
a
it's
a
real
issue
for
this
scheme
and
then,
as
alluded
to
the
fact
that
at
that
point
we
didn't
even
know
we
had
to
rebuild
the
harbor
wall.
Now
we
have
to
rebuild
the
harbor
wall.
We've
got
to
grab
out
all
of
the
existing
Tides,
it's
a
very
complicated
scheme.
This
is.
A
G
I'm
certainly
happy
during
the
delegation
period
to
to
confirm
the
position
with
our
Technical
Services
team
that
that's
withdrawn,
certainly
reassured
that
other
schemes
along
the
western
Harbor
are
have
designed
and
solved
the
particular
issues
around
drainage
for
their
sites,
and
certainly
I
was
satisfied
that
that
was
the
case,
but
I'm
happy
that
if
that's
not
the
case
during
delegation,
it
comes
back
to
committee.
So
if
there
is
a
still
holding
objection
or
objection
on
drainage,
it
would
come
back.
But
as
I
say,
your
officers
are
satisfied
on
that
point.
G
But
that
will
just
deal
with
the
the
members
concerns
on
drainage
and
just
on
the
some
of
the
other
points
is
very
interesting
sort
of
looking
at
this
debate
about
parking
housing
density.
It
is
a
a
question
of
balance.
We've
we've
heard
tonight.
We
need
housing.
This
is
a
a
low
density
in
terms
of
the
schemes
that
have
been
coming
forward
at
the
Western
Harbor
arm.
It
is
providing
townhouses
it's
providing
a
virtually
one
for
one
and
actually
slightly
more
than
that.
G
If
you
count
the
two
spaces
in
front
of
some
of
the
townhouses
and
therefore
that's
significantly
more
than
any
other
parking
scheme
we've
had
on
the
western
Harbor
arm,
which
has
been
between
0.4
and
0.6
parking
space
are
dwelling,
so
this
is
a
very
different
scheme
in
terms
of
density,
parking
and
in
terms
of
viability.
Well,
viability
is
a
material
consideration.
G
It's
very
clear
in
terms
of
national
planning
policy
framework
advice
to
planning
authorities
and
we've
robustly
assessed
their
the
viability
and
we've
gotten
improved
offer
from
in
terms
of
the
planning
game
which
can
be
secured
through
the
106
agreement.
Just
a
few
points,
sir
Jim
thank.
A
C
Thank
you,
I
really
did
come
here
with
an
open
mind
and
I
attended
the
public
consultation
with
an
open
mind
as
well
and
I
have
looked
for
reasons
to
reject
this
plan
and
it's
very
hard
to
find
them.
C
C
This
makes
it
much
more
difficult
for
the
applicant
to
provide
the
kinds
of
blocks
that
would
give
us
affordable
homes
they
applied
for
a
they
made
an
application
for
those
kinds
of
blocks
and
had
the
application
rejected.
So
there
could
have
been
affordable
homes
had
that
been
approved,
and
it
was
not
so.
The
development
was
designed
around
the
specific
requirements
of
the
site
and
I
like
the
way
this
site
has
integrated
into
the
developments
further
west
along
the
harbor
arm.
C
The
way
the
block
adjacent
to
the
Kingston
Wharf
development
integrates,
carries
on
and
provides
a
sort
of,
a
seventh
block
and
I
think
it
does
a
better
job
than
the
Kingston
Wharf
development
and
I
wish.
This
one
had
come
first,
so
we
could
have
Incorporated
the
clever
use
of
tiered
Heights
at
the
junction
with
the
a259.
So
you
don't
have
the
really
tall
buildings
adjacent
to
the
road.
C
The
taller
bit
is
adjacent
to
the
river
so
and
having
the
the
houses
nearer
to
the
Kingston
Beach
Village
Green
means
that
it
sort
of
tapers
towards
the
lower
height
as
it
gets
to
the
part.
That's
not
going
to
have
any
building
ever
because
the
Village
Green
status
means
that
there
will
be
no
building
there
and
I
think
there
are
so
many
restrictions
on
that
site.
C
I
think
we
cannot
use
the
failure
to
be
able
to
provide
affordable
homes
as
a
reason
to
reject,
because
I
do
not
believe
that
unless
a
developer
comes
forward,
that's
even
more
ingenious,
it
would
be
unlikely
to
be
able
to
have
affordable
homes
within
a
development
on
that
site,
with
the
restrictions
that
are
applied
to
that
location.
C
So
I
think
this
development
is,
is
a
good
one
and
far
better
than
the
site
we've
got
now,
which
is
just
a
horrible
grotty
scrubby
area
of
flat,
concrete
and
I'm
going
to
go
on.
Now
to
talk
about
the
delivery
of
infrastructure,
because
that
has
been
talked
about
a
great
deal
and
in
terms
of
the
delivery
of
infrastructure.
This
is
not
within
the
gift
of
the
applicant.
C
I
was
in
all
three
doctor
surgeries
today
in
Shoreham
and
Southwick,
and
one
of
them
in
particular,
is
in
in
need
of
completely
redesigning,
and
we
need
to
get
on
with
that.
But
that
should
not
be
a
consideration
for
this
planning,
application
and
I.
Think
that's
me
done
so.
If
anybody's
got
anything
to
add.
Thank
you.
K
And
yes,
I've
listened
very
carefully
just
what
council
McGregor
has
said
and
the
very
interesting
points
that
were
made
by
Our
Last
speaker.
The
developer
I
still
have
a
huge
problem
with
the
lack
of
affordability,
affordable
housing
on
this
site
this
afternoon,
and
she
said
it
was
all
right
to
use
her
name.
I
was
speaking
to
a
woman
called
Joanne
who
was
a
resident
in
my
ward
in
Saint
Nicholas,
who,
unfortunately,
after
10
years
of
living
in
a
private
rented
house,
found
that
she
was
being
evicted.
K
The
owner
of
the
house
was
selling.
She
has
two
children,
one
of
her
children
goes
to
Shoreham
Academy.
The
other
child
is
just
starting
at
Swiss
Gardens.
She
has
had
to
move
out.
The
only
possible
temporary
accommodation
was
right
out
of
the
area
would
have
made
it
impossible
for
the
children
to
stay
at
school,
so
she's
moved
in
with
her
Mum
and
Dad
just
outside
the
border
of
our
area,
and
she
is
needing
affordable
housing
and
she's,
not
alone.
There
are
many,
many
thousands
of
ADA
people
in
that
situation.
K
Now.
My
problem
is
and
I've
heard,
all
these
arguments,
and
it
may
be
that
the
market
can't
resolve
this
problem.
It
may
be.
We
need
to
look,
as
has
been
said
at
the
state,
at
at
either
on
a
local
level
or
on
a
national
level
resolving
the
problem,
but
I
can't
look
people
like
her
in
the
eye
and
the
thousands
of
other
people
and
say
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
just
too
difficult
for
there
to
be
any
affordable
housing
on
this
particular
development.
So
for
that
reason
that
I'm
actually
opposed
to
this
application.
I
K
Think
it
contravenes
policy.
21
I
think
the
contributions
that
have
been
argued
mitigate
that
are
pathetic,
11
four
units
and
I,
don't
know
if
people
have
noted,
but
that
money
has
been
boosted
by
taking
138
000
pounds
off
the
primary
school
contributions
to
West
Sussex,
so
138
000
of
that
750
000
has
actually
been
stolen
from
primary
school
children.
I.
Don't
know
why
West
Sussex
have
agreed
to
that,
but
I
can't
be
complicit
with
that
kind
of
juggling
of
numbers.
If
people
want
to
I
can
take
you
to
the
pages
where
that
exists.
K
I
do
have
a
huge
problem
with
the
drainage.
Flooding
is
one
of
these
things
where
it's
only
when
it
happens,
people
say
why
didn't
we
think
about
that?
We
need
to
start
thinking
about
flooding,
we're
going
to
get
more
rainfall
we're
going
to
get
these
extraordinary
weather
events
as
part
of
global
warming.
We
need
to
think
about
drainage
and,
and
finally
just
what
was
said
I
think
about
the
the
Heritage
value.
K
The
Heritage
value
should
only
be
compromised
if
there
is
real
public
benefit.
Unfortunately,
there
is
no
benefit
to
the
public
of
ADA
by
this
development.
The
only
benefit
is
to
people
with
a
lot
of
money
who
want
a
Riverside
View.
So
for
those
three
reasons,
I
think
policy,
21
policy,
36
and
policy
38
of
our
local
plan
are
all
contravened
by
this.
I
won't
be
supporting
it
and
I.
Ask
other
committee
members
to
join
me
in
that.
A
T
You
chair
I've,
basically
listened
to
everything
before
making
any
comments.
I've
been
making
notes
here
and
stuff
I
just
wanted
to
get
all
sides
and
hear
every
opinion
on
it.
Now
I've
lived
in
Ada
a
lot.
My
whole
life
and,
like
I,
said
I've,
been
making
notes
here
and
the
problem
I
find
with
it
is
when
you
sort
of
coming
along
there
and
you're
entering
the
from
the
East
you're
hit
with
that
wall
of
that
development.
T
When
it
was
mentioned,
it's
like
a
nautical
feel,
but
it's
not
a
nautical
feel
it
doesn't
complement
anything
in
that
area.
Looking
at
it
also
a
mention
of
fashion
was
mentioned
and,
as
everyone
knows,
fashion
is
a
phase,
and
it
comes
and
goes
so
looking
at
it.
T
I
find
it
overpowering
as
you're
approaching
the
comments
of
affordable
housing
and
flooding,
although
it
can
be
tackled
and
stuff
like
that,
I
just
think
that
it's
it's
just
basically,
it's
just
not
I
think
listening
to
like
the
comments
from
some
of
the
people
and
it
just
it's
not
good
for
that
area.
I
think
when
I
first
arrived
here
tonight,
I
was
sort
of
on
the
fence
with
it
and
I
was
sort
of
thinking,
I'm,
not
against
development
of
a
large
scale,
but
I
think
in
this
area
along
that
road.
T
It
should
be
graded
down
to
build
up
to
the
larger
developments
along
the
road.
The
mention
of
sustainability
and
stuff
like
that
gas
is
basically
outdated
and
it
should
have
been
mentioned
from
day
one
that
they
would
be
going
along
air
source
solar,
basically,
all
those
sort
of
things
and
not
going
straight
in
with
gas
boilers.
L
I
think
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
who
spoke
this
evening
and
actually
especially
the
the
architect
and
the
agent,
because
I
really
welcome
their
honesty.
Oh
I'm,
the
developer,
they're,
they're,
honesty
and,
being
so
clear
on
the
really
really
difficult
position
that
they've
been
in,
and
you
know,
I
have
Monumental
sympathy
for
having
been
lumbered
with
the
cost
of
doing
the
flood
wall.
Apart
from
anything
else.
That
must
be
monumentally
difficult,
but.
L
Liking,
their
approach
in
Attitude
doesn't
mean,
unfortunately,
that
I
like
the
development.
Earlier
this
year,
we
were
talking
about
the
Kingston
Busey
Conservation
Area
appraisal.
Now
this
area
isn't
in
the
conservation
area,
but
it
is
next
to
it
and
it
was
referred
to
in
the
appraisal
report.
One
of
the
recommendations
was
that
development
proposals
at
Kingston
Beach,
either
individually
or
as
part
of
the
wider
Shoreham
Harbor
regeneration
area
scheme,
are
considered
in
the
context
of
the
historic
development
of
this
part
of
Kingston.
L
In
other
words,
it
fits
with
the
maritime
Heritage,
now
I
think
the
Lifeboat
station
as
a
modern
building,
does
that
splendidly
I.
Don't
think
that
these
buildings
do,
though,
I
think
they
are
square
rigid
with
very
little
green
space
in
there
very
little
space
for
people
who
live
there
for
kids,
who
live
there
to
go
out
into
the
into
and
and
run
about,
as
as
kids
do
so,
I,
don't
like
this
scheme,
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
because
of
the
scale
of
it,
the
height
of
it.
L
You
know
in
an
Ideal
World
we
would
look
at
what
will
we
do?
What
will
we
put
between
all
those
flat
blocks
that
are
going
up
and
a
beach
which
people
find
attractive
and
is
it
is
attracting
more
and
more
visitors
and
what
we
wouldn't
put?
We
would
put
there
something
that
would
enhance
people's
lives,
who
live
there,
who
are
going
to
live
there
and
who
visit,
but
I,
don't
think
these
these
buildings
do
it.
My
other
point
would
be
on
housing
on
Friday
the
council
statement.
L
Quite
correctly
saying
we
are
wrestling
with
a
severe
shortage
of
housing
to
meet
the
needs
of
people
in
Ada.
Absolutely
right
we
are,
but
this
development
does
not.
It
is
houses,
but
it
does
not
assist
us
as
a
council
in
delivering
more
homes
to
the
people
of
ADA
and
particularly
for
the
reason
of
over
development.
The
negative
impact
that
I
believe
this
would
have
on
are
on
its
surroundings.
I.
U
U
The
back
I
can
hear
you
that's
better.
Okay,
sorry,
it
says
overbearance
of
the
residents
living
in
two-story
block
houses
outside
the
road.
U
Now
the
desire,
the
character
and
appearance
on
page
27,
States
development
forms
should
respect
and
collect
with
surrounding
areas,
because,
through
an
overlooking
Outlook
that
the
setting
of
The
Lighthouse
must
be
considered
for
the
development
over
three
stories
based
went
to
United
council's
tall
building
study,
the
lighthouse
should
that
should
be
the
maximum.
There
should
be
limited
to
four
stories
if,
for
it
already
voted
on,
the
application
site
should
be
limited
to
four
stories,
so
I
think
really
going
by
this.
To
me,
this
is
far
too
much
over
the
top.
U
The
bus
stops
are
either
side
of
the
road
traffic
builds
up
the
educate
people
doing
dangerous
things.
I.
Try
to
overtake
the
bus
as
it's
stationary
and
it's
very
treacherous
for
cyclists
along
there,
especially
when
they're
coming
from
the
west
or
the
East,
and
they
come
to
where
the
cars
apart
they
move
out
and
then
the
other
ones
trying
to
overtake
them
and
immediately.
You
are
running
into
problems
there.
There's
other
people
would
like
to
say
about
the
going
back
several
years.
U
This
was
the
bus
stop
at
Kingston
Lane.
They
were
looking
at
that.
We
were
looking
at
the
actual
consider
putting
the
lay-by
not
quite
sure
where
they
were
going
to
do
it,
but
it
was
a
suggestion
for
it
for
a
simple
reason
that
the
problems
that
we'd
got
with
this
parking
and
virtually
now
it's
got
worse.
You
know
we're
obviously
passages
the
bus.
Is
there
every
10
minutes,
and
then
we
just
gotta
a
pile
up
behind.
It
goes
right
back
to
traffic
lights.
Sometimes,
for
example,.
A
A
K
Yes,
primarily
it's
in
contravention
of
policy
21
of
the
blank
call.
It's
called
the
local
area
plan,
but
also
there's
concerns
about
policy
36,
which
is
about
sustainable
drainage
and
I.
Understand
that
also
is
covered
by
sh6
The
Joint
j-a-l.
K
There
are
also
concerns
about
policy
18
and
the
sustainability
energy
policy
of
the
design
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
it
actually
applies
to,
but
the
point
that
was
being
made
about
the
Heritage
implications,
and
my
argument
is
that
it's
not
in
the
public
interest.
So
it
contravenes
that
also.
If
anybody
would
help.
B
In
respect
to
the
Heritage
paragraph
222,
the
mppf
states
that
where
a
development
proposal
will
lead
to
less
than
substantial
harm,
this
harm
should
be
weighed
against
the
public
benefits.
So
it's
it's
a
way
enough
process,
rather
than
the
public
benefits
have
to
override
it,
which
I
think
is
addressed
within
the
report.
K
G
Obviously,
reference
to
policy
21
of
the
adopted
local
plan
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
That
policy
does
indicate
that
viability
and
less
viability
indicates
cannot
be
delivered.
I
think
members
need
to
be
aware
of
that.
Certainly,
your
officers
are
the
opinion
that
this
development
could
not
support
the
delivery
of
affordable
housing
and
therefore
there
isn't
conflict
with
policy
21,
but
I
take
the
point
that
that
will
be
debated
in
a
moment
in
terms
of
sustainability
design,
whilst
I've
heard
all
the
comments.
G
Certainly
in
relation
to
what
you've
heard
from
the
applicants
and
in
the
committee
report,
there
is
compliance
with
local
plan
policies.
There
is
a
commitment
to
investigate
further
in
terms
of
gas.
I.
I
would
say,
though,
that
in
terms
of
some
of
the
developments
that
we
have
approved,
a
gas
communal,
wet
facility,
that
was
a
temporary
communal
system
pending
District
heat
network,
was
part
of
the
council's
approach
to
ensuring
that
we
had
developments
that
could
connect
to
a
district
heat.
G
Network
in
the
future
and
and
that
they're
committing
to
that
for
the
eight-story
apartment
block
Heritage
issues
as
you've
heard,
that
is,
for
members
to
weigh
up
the
public
benefits
with
the
harm.
G
Certainly
councilor
funnels
just
mentioned
page
I've
lost
some
page
now,
but
the
relevant
page
27
was
it
talking
about
the
the
and
the
tool
building
study,
and
certainly
members,
in
particular
in
relation
to
the
eight
story-
development,
whether
it's
appropriate
for
the
site
in
relation
to
Heritage,
and
that
weighing
up
exercise,
that's
clearly
could
form
the
basis
of
a
committee
refusal
reason
so
I'm
just
trying
to
help
the
exercise
in
terms
of
narrowing
down
to
what
members
may
be
voting
on
potentially
in
a
moment.
Thank.
K
Yes,
just
in
regards
to
policy
21.,
if
I
can
just
read
it,
it
states
it
talks
about
the
case
being
made
that
it's
not
viable
to
have
affordable
housing,
and
it
says
if
this
is
not
achievable
as
a
last
resort.
In
exceptional
circumstances,
only
the
council
will
seek
a
financial
contribution
to
enable
provision
of
affordable
homes
elsewhere
within
the
inada.
K
In
cases
where
a
financial
contribution
is
accepted,
the
payment
should
reflect
the
cost,
providing
the
number
type
and
size
of
affordable
dwellings
that
would
have
been
provided
on
site.
This,
even
with
the
financial
contribution,
doesn't
reflect
the
quantity
of
properties
that
would
have
been
provided
on
site.
So
I
argue
it's
it's
completely.
In
violation
of
that
policy.
G
Gem
yeah
I
just
think
it's
important.
We
understand
that
viability
is
a
material
consideration.
That
policy
was
written
in
light
of
government
guidance
around
viability.
G
So,
yes,
you
would
secure
on-site
provision
again
subject
to
viability,
assessment
if
you
can
take
an
off-site
contribution
again,
it's
subject
to
a
viability
assessment
so
that
that's
just
really
what
members
have
to
and
government
advice
is
quite
clear.
We
have
to
give
consideration
to
the
viability.
What
is
being
offered
is
above
what
the
original
consultant,
the
council's
viability
consultant
thought
was
achievable
in
terms
of
a
contribution
and,
yes,
we
have
discussed
with
the
County
Council
about
using
the
primary
school
contribution
because
of
the
significant
reduction
in
child
places
across
Ada
for
primary
schools.
G
That's
the
only
reason
the
County
Council
have
a
agreed.
They
wouldn't
ordinarily.
The
reason
why
we've
suggested
using
it
is
because
of
the
importance
we
put
to
affordable
housing
now.
Clearly
that
could
go
back
to
primary
school
education
and
would
have
44
000
towards
affordable
housing.
Your
officers
felt
that,
if
you're
looking
at
how
best
to
use
that
750
000,
it
should
be
to
the
priority
which
is
affordable
housing.
That's
why
we've
put
that
forward,
but
members
could
decide
a
slightly
different
take
on
that.
A
A
G
Because
this
is
very
important,
so
the
the
two
matters
that
were
taken
forward
as
far
as
I
understand
was
concerned
about
the
lack
of
affordable
housing.
Yes,
and
about
the
impact
the
development
would
have
in
particularly
the
eight-story
apartment,
to
the
setting
of
the
light
listed
Lighthouse
and
the
public
benefits
wouldn't
outweigh
the
harm
to
Heritage
assets.
So
I've
got
those
two
principal
refusal
reasons
and
I
just
need
to
be
clear
that
that
captures
the
the
were.
K
G
A
Are
our
members
all
clarified
on
that
yeah?
Okay!
Thank
you
very
much
James.
Thank
you!
Everybody!
We
are
going
to
have
a
short
five
minute
break
before
the
next
application.
So
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
are
staying
for
that
or
if
you
are
leaving
but
do
feel
free
to
join
us.
If
you
want
to
stay.
R
A
G
Thank
you
chair.
Yes,
members
will
also
note
the
addendum
report
on
this
item,
which
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that
the
technical
services
have
now
withdrawn
their
holding
objects.
You
know
it's
very
clearly
stated
to
avoid
a
further
discussion
about
drainage,
but
you
can
see
they're
recommending
conditions.
G
We
have
also
just
had
some
confirmation
that
County
highways
are
happy
and
there's
a
revised
recommendation
that
I've
come
to
in
a
moment.
So
this
is
the
site
and
I
think
to
start
with
an
aerial
photographs
quite
useful,
just
to
show
the
footprint
of
the
former
school.
This
is
a
site
that,
following
the
school
closing
and
the
buildings
being
demolished,
Nature
has
sort
of
taken
a
grip
and
hence
the
the
need
for
the
ecological
and
follow-up
studies
on
the
site.
G
The
the
key
thing
to
notice
on
on
the
aerial
photographer,
the
the
the
larger
more
mature
trees
in
the
Southeast
corner
of
the
site-
and
this
is
the
area-
that's
very
much
to
be
left
alone,
as
in
ecological
enhancement
area
where
the
residents
and
public
won't
be
allowed
in.
It
will
be
managed
as
an
ecological
enhancement
area,
and
this
is
where
the
existing
Pond
is
is
to
be
enhanced.
G
There
are
some
existing
trees
along
the
the
western
boundary
there
and
some
trees
as
we
go
through
our
don't
Identify
some
others.
G
You
see,
there's
quite
a
few
trees
on
the
site,
but
as
the
agricultural
assessment
and
tree
survey
identifies
a
number
of
them,
are
categories
C
of
limited
diameter
and
life
expectancy
and
a
poor
form
as
in
form
appearance
and
they're,
largely
the
trees
that
are
to
be
failed
to
make
way
for
the
development.
G
This
is
just
looking
across
the
site,
access
into
the
site.
You
can
see
some
of
the
trees
that
are
to
be
filled
as
part
of
the
development
and
just
some
photographs
of
the
surrounding
area.
This
is
the
the
cycle
path
that
leads
down
to
Southwick
Recreation
ground,
we're
looking
northwards
towards
Parkway
and
the
Eastbrook
Academy
entrance,
and
then
looking
southwards
down
through
what
is
a
quite
an
attractive,
leafy
Lane,
leading
to
the
Southwick
Recreation
ground.
G
Some
other
views
around
the
site
and
across
to
properties
in
or
close
that's
the
southeast
Corner
overlooking
the
the
multi-use
games
area
and
the
quick
play
area
and
I
I've
included
this
just
because
it
was
an
old
one
that
I
found
in
Google
to
show
the
what
the
previous
school
buildings
looked
like
that
were
on
the
site
and
demolished.
G
This
is
the
access
onto
Manor,
Hall
Road.
You
can
see
a
number
of
school
children
see
The
Limited
sort
of
footway
on
this
side,
which
is
to
be
improved
by
the
application
and
I'll
show
you
that
in
a
moment.
So
this
is
the
proposed
layout
plan
as
originally
submitted.
This
is
the
ecological
area,
where
the
the
larger
mature
higher
trees
are
the
pond
that
you
can
just
see
there
in
the
Southeast
corner.
G
There
are
some
notable
trees
that
have
been
retained
as
a
very
large
tree
in
that
northeast
corner
and
other
trees,
along
that
Northern
boundary
and
scope
to
retain
trees
and
hedging
along
the
southern
section
of
the
psychopath
down
to
Southwick
Recreation
ground.
The
original
scheme
had
these
three
visitor
spaces
here
and,
and
certainly
part
of
the
character
of
this
psychopath
down.
G
Is
that
sort
of
landscaped
area
leading
down
to
the
recreation,
ground
and
you'll
see
from
the
committee
report
that
the
parking
has
been
taken
from
that
area
and
there's
additional
scope
for
planting
within
that
area.
But
the
applicant
does
make
it
clear
that
there
unfortunately
wouldn't
be
tree
planting
there,
because
it's
within
a
a
southern
water,
easement
Zone,
but
there
would
be
a
scope
for
landscaping
to
at
least
enhance
that
Frontage
and
widen
what
is
quite
a
narrow,
sectional
Landscaping
with
the
access
road
coming
in.
G
You
can
see
that
the
site
proposes
quite
a
large
landscaped
area
in
this
front
in
the
middle
of
the
site.
This
is
where
the
the
swales
and
sustainable
Urban
drainage
scheme
that's
been
amended
and
the
technical
services
are
now
happy
with
and
that
main
Central
Area
doubles
as
an
attractive
amenity
space
and
actually,
where
most
of
the
replacement
tree
planting
can
be
undertaken
within
that
Central
green
area.
G
So
the
committee
report
refers
to
distances
between
our
properties
and
you
can
see
these
are
the
single
story:
Bungalows
the
the
the
u-shaped
Terrace
to
the
north
of
the
site,
part
of
the
Ada
homes,
housing
stock,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
distances
there.
There
is
in
certain
instances-
and
you
can
see
there
21.2
just
Falls
below
the
22,
but
you've
got
existing
trees
being
retained
along
that
boundary
and
given
the
design
and
layout
of
these
properties
with
just
one
bedroom
window
at
first
floor
level,
that's
considered
acceptable.
G
But
you
can
see
the
distances
exceed
our
our
minimum
guidelines,
so
in
terms
of
sustainability,
I
mentioned
about
improvements
to
the
access
into
the
site
and
a
wide
foot
wider,
footway,
wider
carriageway
and
improvements
to
the
access
leading
into
the
site
very
much
a
sort
of
a
an
internal
sort
of
low,
a
low
speed,
parking
area,
parking
and
sort
of
turning
area.
So
it
virtually
works
as
a
lot.
The
open,
spacers
are
has
got
the
circulation
around
it
plenty
of
parking
proposed.
G
Even
though
we've
lost
the
three
business
spaces,
this
would
exceed
the
county
standards
and
would
provide
the
applicant
has
clarified
that
they
would
allocate
all
the
parking
to
ensure
sufficient
parking
for
residents
and
visitors
for
each
dwelling.
The
applicant
has
also
just
clarified
the
issue
about
the
outlier
set.
There
was
reference
to
the
badger
and
the
further
follow-up
survey,
and
sometimes
with
outlier,
sets,
there's
a
concern
about
keeping
outlier
sets.
G
Any
Works
within
I
think
it
is
30
meters
of
a
of
a
set,
so
that
would
have
to
be
covered
anyway,
but
the
applicants
have
confirmed
that
they
would
like
to
retain
that
outlier
set
and
really
keep
this
area
separated
at
all
times
from
the
construction,
and
the
ecologists
has
put
forward
a
number
of
enhancements
and
protection
measures
for
Ecology
during
the
course
of
construction,
and
that
includes
obviously
checks
for
Badges
and
not
leaving
holes
exposed
overnight
and
a
whole
series
of
measures
as
well,
as
is
quite
a
comprehensive
list
of
enhancement,
ecological
enhancement,
bird
B,
bat
boxes
and
the
light
can
be
incorporated.
G
It
will
be
important
to
secure
those,
and
just
the
ecologists
recommended
that
a
ecological
protection
and
enhancement
management
plan
be
submitted,
and
that
would
provide
the
level
of
certainty
around
future
management.
The
applicant
has
indicated
that
the
open
space
and
ecological
enhancement
area
would
be
managed
by
a
management
company.
Our
Parks
manager
is
is
happy
with
that
approach
and
feels
that
it
would
be
better
not
to
provide
open
space
as
in
equipment.
G
Given
the
close
proximity
of
very
extensive
children's
play
area
very
close
to
the
site,
members
will
note
that
you
know
there
is
tree
loss
here.
There
are
concerns
whenever
tree
loss
is
mentioned,
but
this
is
a
case
where
the
the
trees
being
removed
are
of
low
quality.
G
There
is
certainly
the
scope
to
provide,
and
the
applicant
makes
mention
of
the
ability
to
provide
a
better,
varied
mix
of
planting
and
to
control
and
to
secure
a
heavy
standard
replacement
trees
within
that
landscaped
area
and
the
details
of
the
Landscaping
scheme
can
be
secured
by
condition.
G
We've
obviously
got
as
I've
mentioned
drainage
comments.
Highways
are
happy.
G
The
open
space
contribution
reduces
slightly
to
27
000
pounds
838
because
of
the
additional
amenity
space
being
provided
where
the
visitor
spaces
are
members,
and
certainly
this
is
something
I've
discussed
with
the
parks
manager
that
whilst
we
could
take
that
money
and
and
provide
additional
or
perhaps
replacement
play
equipment,
members
might
feel-
and
this
is
certainly
the
parks
managers
up
to
the
option
of
using
some
of
that
funding
for
additional
tree
planting
in
Southwick
Recreation
ground,
where
there
would
be
more
scope
for
and
more
space
for
or
for
tree
planting
and,
and
that
might
be
something
that
well
certainly,
the
parks
manager
would
like
to
explore.
G
Given
such
an
array
of
play,
equipment
very
close
to
the
site,
I,
don't
think,
there's
anything
else
to
go
through
just
some
more
images,
as
included
in
the
report,
really
that
your
officers
have
been
very
pleased
with
a
very
fresh,
quite
contemporary,
but
picking
up
on
a
lot
of
features
in
the
locality
in
terms
of
different
Bond
of
brickworks
reveals
to
Windows.
G
Some
very
nice
features
in
terms
of
dealing
with
solar
gain
in
terms
of
Breezy
shutter
approach
and
deep
reveals,
as
I
say,
to
Windows
and
overall,
an
attractive
scheme
that
does
reflect
local
architecture,
but
in
a
very
contemporary
way.
G
Certainly,
the
use
of
these
flat
roof
sort
of
Timber,
dark,
Timber
stained
entrance
ways
creates
some
very
attractive
sort
of
focal
points
for
the
individual
and
it's
it's
a
nice
attractive
scheme,
centered
around
an
internal
area
of
open
space,
and
you
can
see
the
opportunities
for
providing
some
informal
seating
and
more
ecological
enhancement
of
that
existing
area
of
well
proposed
area
of
open
space
in
the
center
of
the
site,
which
is
effectively
where
the
the
former
school
buildings
were
just
some
sketches
prepared
by
the
architect
again
and
just
some
cross
sections
showing
through
the
site
showing
the
central
open
space
area
and
the
housing
and
the
access
into
the
site
into
that
Central.
L
It's
it's
just
one
on
on
the
trees
on
the
original
report,
it
said
that
the
development
will
introduce
45
additional
trees,
is.
Is
that
figure
staying
or
is
it
changing?
Given
that
there's
an
area
where
you
can't
put
trees
in.
G
K
Just
checking
I
think
you've
answered
my
question,
but
the
playing
condition
10
the
ecological
management
plan,
I
I-
was
worried.
There
was
nothing
in
the
planning
conditions
that
seemed
to
reflect.
The
advice
had
been
given
about
the
badger
set,
but
I
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
the
ecological
management
plan
is,
is
the
mechanism
by
which
that's
secured.
G
At
that
end,
the
license
from
National
Natural
England,
but
yes,
I
mean
those.
Those
measures
set
out
in
the
colleges
report
would
be
captured
by
that
and
it's
and
we
would
expect
a
a
greater
level
of
information
about
those
protection
and
enhancement
opportunities.
C
I
have
to
agree
that
there's
a
number
of
self-planted
trees
that
have
sort
of
inserted
themselves
in
cracks
in
former
foundations
or
playground,
and
if
you
were
to
dig
up
those
foundations,
the
tree
would
probably
die.
In
any
case,
you
couldn't
extract
the
two,
so
I
think
it's
absolutely
right
that
those
trees
are
lost.
C
C
Now
the
one
question
I
have
which
only
came
to
me
today,
so
you
may
be
able
to
answer
this.
The
the
lane
to
the
entrance
to
the
site.
Can
it
take
two-way
traffic
and
would
would
that
be
safe
for
the
cyclists
going
up
and
down
that
lane?
C
If
there
were
cars
bumping
up
onto
the
pavement
with
cyclists
and
children
going
to
school
it
that
looks
like
it's
a
very
high
traffic
area
for
school
children
at
the
same
time
as
people
are
leaving
those
properties
to
go
to
work
or
wherever
and
I
know
highways
haven't
objected,
but
I
do
wonder
about
that
area
with
pedestrians
and
children
and-
and
you
know
at
school
start
and
stop
times
have
we
got
any
information
on
that?
Thank
you.
Yes,.
G
I
mean
I
I,
think
the
the
application
was
delayed
specifically
because,
where
Sussex
did
want
a
road
safety
audit
just
to
be
satisfied
on
on
those
matters
and
the
the
safety
Audits
and
the
designers
response
were
carried
out
and
that
satisfied
the
counter
Council,
that
would
be
an
acceptable
Arrangement.
It
is
two-way,
I
think.
G
The
key
thing
is,
though,
the
wider
pavement
and
I
mean
yes,
there
is
already
the
sort
of
connection
South
as
it
were,
and
you
can
see
that
the
applicants
are
prepared,
proposing
quite
a
a
nice
Improvement
in
terms
of
that
currently
bollarded
area
there
to
create
a
sort
of
a
calming
feature
for
cyclists.
Coming
out
at
that
point,
and
that's
included
in
the
committee
report
that
image
so
yes,
I
mean
I.
Think
overall,
there
is
an
improvement
in
terms
of
accessibility
for
the
school.
G
There
is
always
going
to
be
some
conflict
between
cyclists
and
and
and
parents,
and
certainly
I've
I've
visited
a
sort
of
the
dropping
off
and
picking
up
time,
both
times
sort
of
AM
and
PM,
and
it
is
quite
busy
around
there.
G
But,
to
be
honest,
this,
as
you
can
see
from
the
design
of
this
development,
it's
going
to
be
a
low
speed
sort
of
area
around
it's
a
shared
space-
and
you
know
just
the
nature
of
the
amount
of
movements
will
mean
that
you
know
cars
will
need
to
travel
slowly
through
that
point,
that
period
of
the
day,
but
it's
quite
a
concentrated
period
of
time
and
the
rest
of
the
time.
It's
it's
very
quiet.
G
So
it
is
only
though
those
sort
of
sort
of
start
and
finishes
this
school
day
really
but
County
Council
are
satisfied
with
the
safety
audit.
U
Because
I
happen
to
live
in
Parkway
and
children,
you
know,
obviously,
as
you
said
peak
times
of
the
day,
it's
very
congregated
down
there.
That
is,
you
know
the
entrance.
Is
the
parents
arrive,
they
wait.
There
could
be
something
considerable
time.
Talking
and
I
was
just
a
bit
concerned
that
two-way
traffic
there
on
that
you
know,
I
can
see
people
speed
it
out
or
perhaps
or
whatever
I'm
just
concerned.
You
know
that
it
is
amazing
place
where
parents
picking
up
children,
it's
a
popular
spot
there,
so
I'm
just
a
bit.
G
G
It's
been
a
sort
of
cul-de-sac
without
any
traffic,
and
so
I
think
parents
and
children
have
got
used
to
just
using
it
as
a
you
know,
as
a
as
an
extended
pavement
right
across
the
road,
because
there
hasn't
been
that
vehicle
movements,
but
it
needs
to
be
the
improvements
that
have
been
offered
will
improve
that
and
still
ensure
that
there's
a
safe
environment
but
there's
always
congestion
around
schools.
Isn't
that
and
I?
G
Don't
think,
there's
a
lot
that
you
can
do
other
than
what
the
applicants
sought
to
do
by
you
know
providing
appropriately
widths
footways
and
designing
the
road
to
take
into
account
the
the
the
the
fact
that
we'll
be
traffic
now
coming
up
and
down
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
lot
else
to
say
and
under
the
other
issue,
as
members
are
aware,
that
we'd
have
to
demonstrate
severe
impact
if
we
were
going
to
refuse
on
Highway
grounds.
So
you
know
it's
it's
it's
one
that
I
think
the
applicants.
K
Yeah
and
just
really
picking
up
on
that
point,
so
the
the
section
106
money
allocated
for
primary
is
it?
Does
the
school
I'm
not
sure
how
this
works?
Does
the
school
get
any
access
to
that
money
directly
because
again,
I
had
similar
conversations
with
local
people,
and
there
is
the
potential
to
perhaps
even
move
one
of
the
entrances
to
the
school.
That
is
at
the
moment
down
that
lane
and
obviously
that
would
be
far
easier
with
a
pot
of
money
provided.
G
I
do
know
how
it
works.
It
goes
into
a
big
pot
and
it's
ring
fence
for
Ada,
but
the
County
Council
generally
are
very
reluctant
to
ring
fence
funding
for
a
particular
project,
but
we
have
done
that
before.
G
Certainly
I
remember
rope,
Temple
tackle
development,
we
ring
fence
the
money
for
Swiss
Garden
school,
but
rather
than
perhaps
ring
fencing.
I
think
certainly
I'm
happy
to
write
to
the
County
Council
here
and
suggest
that
some
of
that
funding
could
could
be
used
to
look
at.
You
know
improving
and
potentially
having
The
Pedestrian
access
at
a
different
point,
because
that
would
certainly
take
some
of
that
footfall
away
from
that
area,
which
may
well
be
beneficial
I.
G
Think
the
other
thing
to
to
to
point
out
is
that
the
County
Council
also
looking
for
a
tad
contribution
of
66,
000
I,
think,
which
generally
is
used
for
sustainability
measures,
but
they
mentioned
the
cycle
path
along.
The
a259
and
I
have
gone
back
to
the
County
Council
and
suggested
that
that's
rather
remote
from
the
site
and
potentially
there
might
be
a
reduction
in
that
contribution.
G
The
applicant's
happy
to
meet
the
full
66
000,
but
again
I
suspect
that
pump
some
of
that
money
might
be
better
looked
at
in
the
the
immediate
vicinity
of
the
site
and
that
could
also
be
with
a
project
with
the
school
to
look
at
addressing
any
potential
taking.
You
know,
children
away
from
that
area,
so
I
think
there's
two
funding
sources
there
potentially
to
to
look
at
that
issue.
G
Of
course,
I'd
take
notice,
okay,
so
I,
I
and
I
think
you
know
seriously.
It
is
something
that
we
could
suggest.
We've
got
a
section
106
agreement
to
negotiate
with
the
applicants,
and
certainly
we
could
put
that
forward
as
a
suggestion
of
this
committee
that
the
the
the
funding's
ring
fence
for
the
the
the
the
the
the
the
school
next
door,
or,
if
not
specifically,
looking
at
that
issue
about
whether
there
is
a
a
separate
proposal
that
might
potentially
provide
another
access
into
schools.
G
Access
into
schools
is
always
difficult
because,
obviously
it's
a
control
and
they
obviously
limit
the
number
of
access
points.
So
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
feasible
or
not.
In
this
case,.
A
T
Thank
you,
chair
I,
like
the
design
and
I
think
the
Architects
have
done
a
cracking
job
on
it.
I
think
they've
taken
a
lot
of
care
into
the
sort
of
nature
side
of
it.
It's
it's
the
sort
of
place
that
if
I
was
looking
for
somewhere
to
live
I'd,
be
happy
to
live
there
myself
on
the
entrance.
There
is
a
existing
double
yellow
lines
going
down
the
left-hand
side,
because
on
the
picture,
I
can't
quite
see
on
the
axis
one.
Do
you
think
they.
G
Are
difficult
to
tell
isn't
it
they're
very
faded
looks
like
just
a
single
line,
but
I
mean
that
might
be
again
something
that
the
County
Council
would
look
at
in
terms
of
any
Tad
contribution
in
terms
of
yellow
lining
to
around
that
point,
because
oh
silly
is
clearly
if
you
had
a
Justice
a
single
line,
but
that
I'd
leave
that
for
the
counter
Council
to
take
forward.
E
Maybe
if
you
those
could
be
reduced,
that
was
certainly
allow
greater
ease
of
visibility
around
those
corners
and
certainly
it
Manor
Hall
Road
is
a
long
straight
Road
and
so
I
mean
there
have
there
are
traffic
calming
measures
in
there,
but
maybe
something
that's
a
bit
more
effective
could
be
considered
if
you're
looking
at,
maybe
something
that's
going
to
be
effect.
E
Parents
and
children
that
are
attending
the
school
and
on
the
development
I'd
like
to
say
yes,
I,
I
I
I,
am
grateful
that
in
fact,
there
have
been
improvements
to
the
some
of
the
the
layouts
and
the
they.
The
developers
did
take
on
board
the
fact
that
I
said
at
first
that
some
of
the
properties
were
too
close
to
the
boundary,
and
so
there
have
been
some
amendments
there.
So
thank
you
for
that
and.
E
A
V
Thank
you,
chair
and
good
evening,
councilors,
so
slightly
reluctant
to
say
that
I'm
from
the
County
Council,
but
but
my
part,
is
a
director
of
the
company
that
has
partnered
with
the
developer
and
would
the
County
Council
would
normally
sell
Surplus
land
on
the
open
market
just
to
the
highest
bidder.
And-
and
that
would
be
that.
V
But
about
four
years
ago
we
took
the
decision
to
hold
on
to
the
land
and
and
form
a
joint
venture
partnership
and
after
a
long,
a
two-year
process
to
select
a
partner
in
which
in
which
we
could
find
the
ethos
of
the
county
council's
vision
and
views,
and
they
would
share
that.
V
Lovell
came
through
as
the
the
partner
Far
and
Away
supporting
those
ideals
that
were
part
of
the
tendering
process.
And
it's
actually.
Just
over
a
year
ago,
we
formed
a
partnership
set
up
the
joint
venture
company,
and
in
that
we
sought
to
appoint
architects
of
of
a
really
highest
capability.
And
here
we
have
Alford
Hall,
Monahan
and
Morris
and
Paul
Monahan.
V
So
this
is
about
creating
a
community
and
that
design
has
been
followed
through
and
it's
part
of
the
sustainability
is
part
of
the
sustainable
community
that
we've
sought
to
develop,
and
that
is
also
coming
out
into
the
houses
and
into
their
design,
as
you'll
hear
from
the
next
speaker
to
get
a
type
of
development
where
people
can
be
proud
and
they
can
own
their
houses
and
and
really
care
for
the
environment.
That
is
around
them
and
be
happy
that
it
is
a
sustainable
development.
V
That's
it
that's!
It.
I
K
That,
okay,
yes,
I'm
just
interested,
so
it's
been
brought
up
about
this
pinch
point
about
the
school
entrance
there
yeah
and
changing
the
nature
of
the
road.
So
there's
going
to
be
traffic
flow
there,
which
there
isn't
now
I.
Just
wonder
if
you've
got
any
observations
about
how
you
can
work
with
the
school.
To
address
that
you
know
there
is.
There
is
a
small
problem
there
that
around
those
times
and
whether
you've
just
got
any
extra
observations
about
remedies.
V
What
I
can
say
is
my
opposite
number
in
the
joint
venture.
Leanne
Smith
will
be
speaking
in
a
minute,
will
have
been
to
the
school
and
held
discussions
with
them
about
how
this,
how
we
could
work
together
and
ways
of
of
achieving
this
have
been
put
by
the
school
and
and
we
are
listening
to
them
to
work
with
them.
C
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
have
to
tell
you
I
am
a
county
councilor
as
well,
and
just
over
a
year
ago,
I
took
our
leader
Paul
Marshall,
to
that
school.
It's
not
my
ward,
but
I'm
very
nosy
to
say
why
has
nothing
been
done
with
this
school?
It's
been
sitting
there
for
10
years,
at
least
to
my
knowledge,
and
maybe
that
was
part
of
the
impetus
to
actually
get
something
done.
C
I
would
like
to
ask
you
what
took
you
so
long,
but
I
don't
think
it
matters
what
the
answer
is.
So
the
question
I
have
for
you
is
you
mentioned
Village
Green?
Are
you
planning
to
apply
for
Village
Green
status,
or
are
you
just
calling
it
Village
Green?
No.
V
It's
it's
not
we're
not
making
an
application
like
that,
it's
being
handed
over
to
the
residence
Association
that
I
think
they
will
look
after
it's
part
of
their
CAD
area
and
and
it
will
be
cared
for
like
that.
The
Village
Green
status
is
something
probably
slightly
different
and
to
go
back
to
Paul
Marshall.
V
This
was
in
the
tended
set
of
10
sites
that
goes
back
some
years,
but
but
you're
absolutely
right.
That
is
an
important
one
and
it
stood
there
for
too
long.
A
W
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Leanne
Smith
I'm,
the
joint,
the
West
Sussex
joint
venture
director
and
I
represent
the
application
team.
This
partnership
has
been
established
to
facilitate
delivery
of
new
residential
homes
in
a
collaborative
and
Innovative
way.
These
Partnerships
homes
will
be
delivered
at
PACE,
with
County
Council
oversight,
offering
long-term
value
commercially,
environmentally
and
socially
for
the
betterment
of
the
district
and
its
communities.
Proposals
for
this
site
have
been
brought
forward
in
a
collaborative
and
inclusive
manner,
with
extensive
planning,
stakeholder
and
public
consultation,
all
of
which
has
influenced
the
development
design.
W
The
site
has
already
been
recognized
by
Adrian
Worthing
as
a
suitable
location
for
housing
and
will
make
a
valuable
contribution
to
the
five-year
housing
land
Supply.
Our
vision
is
to
deliver
well-designed
sustainable
homes
to
high
quality
standards
through
partnership
with
a
long-term
commitment
to
West
Sussex
high
quality
will
be
demonstrated
at
every
level
through
our
homes,
the
places
we
create
and
the
service
we
offer.
We
are
here
for
the
long
term
and
we
must
instill
confidence
and
Trust
for
our
stakeholders,
the
community
that
we
join
and
the
communities
that
we
create.
W
As
mentioned,
we
appointed
ahm
a
rebir-winning
architect
committed
delivering
high
quality
design
with
Place
making
Central
to
the
vision.
The
proposed
scheme
sees
delivery,
22
new
homes,
15
open
market
sale
and
seven
affordable,
which
will
be
delivered
by
the
local
housing
provider
Worthing
homes.
The
scheme
provides
more
than
adequate
on
on-street
parking.
We've
talked
about
our
green
heart
of
the
development.
This
Central
Village
Green
will
be
shared
by
all
residents
where,
in
a
post-covered
world,
we
have
once
again
come
to
appreciate
the
benefits
of
being
part
of
a
community.
W
Some
of
the
houses
have
been
positioned,
outwards
facing
onto
part
way
offering
interconnectivity
between
new
and
existing
communities.
The
scheme
will
see
improved
access,
Highway
Arrangements,
a
two-way
upgrade
to
Parkway,
which
has
been
approved
by
highways
and
also
upgrades
to
the
foot
and
cycle
path
through
Landscaping
betterment.
This
important
connection
will
be
enjoyed
by
everyone
in
a
safer
and
more
inclusive
way.
W
W
All
statutory
Consultants
have
been
signed
off
on
the
scheme,
noting
we
have
satisfactory,
responded
to
comments
on
drainage
and
highways.
Flood
risk
in
ecology
have
also
been
considered
and
deemed
acceptable.
Eastbrook
Primary
Academy
have
been
really
interested
and
very
engaging
in
the
formulation
of
our
proposals
working
with
them.
We
would
look
to
bring
forward
a
variety
of
social
value,
Ventures
hoping
to
encourage
the
Next
Generation
into
the
construction
industry.
Alongside
that,
we've
held
discussions
on
the
point
that
you've
already
mentioned
to
us
tonight.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
W
We've
discussed
with
them
in
alternative
access
for
the
safety
of
children
being
brought
to
and
from
school
we've
had
that
drawn
and
we've
had
it
costed
and
we
plan
to
work
to
this
with
the
school
to
find
a
solution.
In
summary,
we're
really
proud
of
this
proposal.
It
will
result
in
high
quality
homes
in
a
high
quality
place
with
economic,
social
and
environmental
benefits.
A
W
U
Very
much
our
plan,
yes,
so
that
we
can
sort
of
obviously
roll
them
over
and
have
a
good
look
for
him.
W
Yeah
I
think
that's
very
important
to
us
as
James
as
a
leader.
This
is
a
contemporary
design.
You
know
related
to
local
architecture,
but
that
panel
design
of
that
brickwork
is
really
really
important
to
our
same
material
choices
will
be
key
and
we'd
be,
of
course,
happy
to
share
that
with
you.
G
We
we
will
not
ask
the
standard
condition
would
require
samples
of
materials
and
at
the
right
time
we
would
normally
get
those
samples
delivered
to
the
office
or
something
constructed
on
site.
So
I
suppose
it's
a
mechanism
for
then
perhaps
sharing
it
with
the
committee
at
the
relevant
time.
A
E
You
say
this
is
a
new
Venture
for
you
with
West
Sussex.
Have
you
is
this
the
first
project
that
you've
done
or
have
you
done
any?
Have
you
completed
any.
O
X
So
it's
our
first
one
that
we're
doing
under
this
JD.
It's
certainly
not
our
first
as
a
business
level
of
being
the
nation's
leading,
affordable
home
homes,
provider
for
for
50
years
of
Partnerships.
X
So
no
it's
our
first
in
the
joint
venture,
and
so
hence
we're
quite
proud
that
it's
particularly
exemplary
Worthing
homes
are
going
to
be
our
affordable
homes,
provider
for
the
social
housing,
we're
providing
seven
social
housing
units
here
and
Worthing
homes
have
come
to
us
and
I
know
it's
not
part
of
the
application
tonight,
but
they
are
asking
us
if
they
can
pay
extra
for
PV
panels.
For
example,
we've
got
air
source
heat
pumps.
We've
got
a
dedicated
ecology,
Zone
The,
Village
Green.
It's
we
think
it's
pretty
exemplary.
W
So
we
took,
we
did
talk
to
Ada's
housing
department,
but
at
the
time
they
weren't
quite
ready
to
have
that
conversation
about
delivering
the
affordable
through
your
own
housing
arm
and
when
Kian
did
actually
come
back
to
me
and
say
that
they'd
like
to
discuss
it,
but
that
time
we'd
entered
into
discussions
with
Worthing
homes.
W
We
wanted
to
choose
a
small
local
housing
provider
who
understands
the
area
and-
and
it
was
negotiations
that
we
had
with
them
quite
some
time
before
the
Ada
housing
was
ready
to
have
them
so
yeah
that
we
were
aware
that
that
was
potentially
an
option.
C
Thank
you.
Obviously,
Worthing
homes
fitted
the
bill,
but
these
homes
are
in
Ada,
so
will
those
affordable
homes
be
for
Ada
residents.
G
Yes,
indeed,
and
that
would
be
secured
through
the
106
agreement,
so
we'll
be
securing
the
30
with
the
the
the
rec
set
number
policy
compliant
to
be
rented
and
available
for
people
on
our
housing
waiting
list.
Yeah.
A
Thank
you
James
for
that,
so
I
think.
That's
all
the
questions
you
couldn't
go
and
sit
down.
Thank
you
very
much
so
open
it
up
to
debate
for
any
or
yes,
cancer.
U
Thank
you
I,
obviously,
very
pleased
to
see
this
game
come
forward,
because
when
is
the
school
closed
in
2013.
U
I
was
very
concerned
at
that
time.
What
would
be
what
would
happen
to
the
site?
Because
it
was
obviously
talk
about
housing
and
that
an
army
did
make
the
points
the
officer
said
it
was
how
important
it
was
to
set
in
that
we
needed
to
blend
in
with
everything
in
that
locality.
U
Now
they
said
about
demolishing
the
school.
In
fact,
what
had
happened?
I'd
been
chasing
up
time
after
time
to
try
and
because
we
were
getting
on
a
Mischief
on
the
site,
children
doing
this
at
the
other.
Finally,
we
had
a
fire
there,
so
it
virtually
when
they
said
they're
demolished.
They
didn't
have
much
to
do.
There
wasn't
much
left
for
them
reassuring
of
his
head
so
but
on
the
whole
very
pleased
with
it-
and
you
know
it's
very
pleased.
Thank.
D
Well,
I
I
feel
the
same
way
as
my
counselor
to
my
counselor
to
the
right
here.
I
think
it's
a
absolutely
beautiful
design
well
thought
out.
D
I
do
like
the
feel
of
the
the
communal
gardening
in
the
middle
to
give
Community
a
community
feel
I.
Think
it's
very
well
well
thought
out,
and
you
know
I'll
be
quite
happy
to
move
there
myself.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
recommendation
to
to
approve
thank.
A
K
Yes,
just
to
to
really
add
to
what
other
people
are
saying,
I
think
it's
a
very
well
thought
out
development.
It
takes
lots
of
boxes
in
terms
of
sustainability,
responsibility
to
The,
Wider
environment.
K
Just
I
just
want
to
comment
really
on
it's
an
interesting
model
that
this
does
seem
to
say
something
about
the
public
sector.
Working
with
with
private
sector
in
joint
ventures
is
something
that's
quite
interesting
and
and
clearly
in
this
instance.
It
seems
to
come
up
with
the
results
that
that
fit
just
one
very,
very
small
Point.
Can
the
I
note
that
the
developers
agreed
there's
a
small
issue?
A
few
local
residents
spoke
to
me
about
about
the
1.5
I
think
the
fencing
was
going
to
be
1.8
on
the
perimeter.
A
G
And
I
suppose
I
I
was
just
going
to
capture,
perhaps
in
the
heads
of
terms
on
the
section
106
agreement
that
we
will
look
to
to
incorporate
probably
some
element
of
the
Tad
contribution
to
look
at
measures
to
enhance
safety
measures
for
the
school
or
something
like
that,
because
I
think
that
could
be
captured
that
way
in
terms
of
the
Tad.
G
It
sounds
like
it's
been
done
anyway,
but
it
would
just
sort
of
capture
that,
and
actually
one
thing
that
the
the
agents
just
mentioned
and
as
a
sort
of
an
Exemplar
sort
of
Development
coming
forward,
it'd
be
quite
nice
to
make
sure
that
we
capture
some
elements.
We
normally
capture,
certainly
for
bigger
developments,
reference
about
apprentices
and
and
working
collaborately
around
sort
of
delivering
the
benefits
of
enhancing
sort
of
construction
jobs
locally.
G
So,
perhaps,
if,
though,
that
that
element
could
be
captured
in
the
106
agreement,
something's
been
done
anyway,
but
it
would
be
good
to
capture
that
within
a
106
for
negotiating
other
schemes.
Locally
and
I've
got
a
note
that
bricks
to
come
back
to
committee,
for
noting
approval
height
of
fencing
for
condition
12.,
and
there
was
nothing
else
to
the
addendum
recommendation.
Just
perhaps
going
to
that
because
that's
slightly
different
to
the
one
in
the
agenda.
A
A
Council
Mansfield,
if
I
can
just
say
awda
m058522,
is
unanimously
passed.
Thank.
D
A
I
X
A
C
A
G
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you
chair,
so
this
is
a
a
report
really
referring
back
to
a
report
that
was
prepared
for
the
Cabinet
member
for
a
regeneration.
G
Members
will
recall
the
the
the
particular
issue
was
the
the
Redevelopment
of
the
Mannings
and
some
concerns
raised
by
local
residents,
that
a
line
of
conifers
were
being
failed
and
I.
Think
some
committee
members
certainly
raised
it
with
your
officers
as
well,
and
it
was
really
just
highlighted,
perhaps
where
we
as
a
an
authority
and
as
officers,
can
tighten
up
procedures
somewhat
in
relation
to
trees
to
be
retained
as
part
of
developments.
G
Generally,
we
put
tree
rotation
measures
as
a
condition
and
we
we
would
ordinarily
expect
Landscaping
schemes
to
show
trees
that
were
to
be
retained,
but
certainly
what
we
are
suggesting
now
is
that
we
would
have
specific
conditions
about
certain
trees
being
retained
and
rather
than
just
losing
them
to
be
potentially
lost
on
a
landscaping
scheme
to
be
shown
to
be
removed.
They
would
specifically,
you
have
to
apply
for
trees
that
were
previously
considered
appropriate
to
be
retained.
G
So
it's
a
slight
change
in
wording
really,
but
it's
just
to
try
and
raise
the
issue
in
the
application
description
of
discharge
of
conditions
if
it's
going
to
involve
trees
that
were
previously
shown
to
be
retained
and
the
other
thing
which
is
cropped
up
at
numerous
meetings
had
again
tonight
about
the
southern
water.
Easement,
there's
no
point
developers
just
showing
trees
in
locations
where
their
services
or
where
there's
potential
restrictions.
So
the
other
thing
is
through
our
validation
requirements
and
negoti
negotiating
with
developers.
G
You
will
see
a
lot
more
references
to
Services
trying
to
be
satisfied
that
trees
can
be
planted
where
they're
suggested,
and
certainly
that's
something
that
we
will
amend
our
validation
list
and
use
these
Landscaping
tree
retention
conditions
to
try
and
avoid
the
sort
of
Manning
situation
happening
again.
It
was
a
bit
of
a
forensic
sort
of
examination
of
how
do
we
end
up
and
actually
probably,
if
they'd
asked
to
remove
the
trees
at
the
first
instance.
It
wouldn't
have
been
a
problem.
G
It
was
just
that
we'll
thought
they
were
being
retained,
albeit
that
even
the
submitted
statements
seem
to
contradict
each
other
on
how
many
trees
might
be
lost.
So
it
was
a
lesson
where
perhaps
developers
need
to
be
more
upfront
with
us
at
the
application
stage
about
what
can
be
retained
and
what
has
to
go
and,
to
be
honest,
sometimes
and
I've
made
mention
of
this.
We've
had
this
a
number
of
instances
as
well.
G
Although
I
think
the
site
that
comes
to
mind,
there
was
a
more
complicated
issue
around
parcel
Force
Redevelopment,
but
nevertheless
the
residents
moved
in
and
moved
in
on
the
basis
of
lots
of
Graphics
showing
their
their
site,
surrounded
by
trees,
which
hasn't
happened,
but
that's
an
ongoing
enforcement
matter.
So
I
won't
dwell
on
that,
but
really,
just
chairman
to
note
the
the
recommendations
and
that
we'll
be
taking
this
forward
to
improve
procedures
going
forward.
L
Just
one
question:
oh
and
as
as
I
was
one
of
well
I
was
a
Committee
Member
who
made
noise
about
this
being
rather
surprised
to
arrive
at
the
co-op
to
buy
something
to
see
trees
coming
down
and
but
anyway,
just
to
say,
I
think
this
is
a
good
report
and
it
strikes
me
as
a
very
honest
report
of
how
how
that
very
strange
thing
happened,
but
just
to
check
the
the
changes
in
process
section
five:
are
they
actually
going
to
happen.
G
So
we're
we're
already
amending
our
validation
list
and
we
are
looking
at
some
other
changes
which
might
need
to
go
out
to
public
consultation,
as
we
did
initially
we're
trying
to
avoid
that
with
with
with
not
incorporating
lots
of
changes
at
the
time
same
time,
because
minor
updates
are
often
acceptable,
and
this
is
really
just
a
a
tweak
to
the
validation
which
wouldn't
trigger
it.
But
there
are
some
other
changes
and
in
terms
of
conditions.
G
Yes,
what
we
are
looking
at
and
members
may
have
noted
if
you'd
come
along
to
the
the
training,
was
just
to
to
look
again
at
some
of
our
standard
conditions
and
and
reissuing
the
standard
conditions
for
members
to
see.
So
we
we
will
do
that
as
a
separate
exercise
just
to
to
provide
members
with
our
list
of
standard
conditions,
and
so
you
can
see
how
we've
tweaked
the
existing
to
the
the
new
condition.
C
This
is
something
which
is
a
real
bug
bear
of
mine
on
many
things,
including
disabled
spaces
enforcement.
It's
great
to
have
these
rules
like
let's
have
a
disabled
space,
but
then
you
just
expect
the
the
people
to
do
as
they're
told
and
people
don't,
and
so
what
are
we
have?
C
We
got
any
actual
examples
of
enforcement
being
done
effectively
because
I
I
just
get
the
impression
people
just
get
a
ticking
off
or
a
caution,
and
when
do
we
actually
have
that
enforcement,
where
they
either
have
to
put
their
hand
in
their
pocket
or
they
have
to
buy
some
land
somewhere
and
plant
some
trees
or
pay
for
some
kelp?
Thank
you.
G
Well,
the
council
regularly
serves
breach,
condition,
notices
and
quite
often
Landscaping
is
one
of
the
issues.
The
good
thing
about
breach
condition
notice
is
there's
no
right
to
appeal.
So
if
we
put
a
condition
on,
then
you
know
they
need
to
comply
with
that.
Certainly,
we've
we've
served
Bridge
condition.
Notices
where
you
know
Landscaping
hasn't
happened,
I
think.
G
To
be
honest,
the
the
past
four
site
issue
is
a
complex
one
because
of
negotiations
separately
with
the
County
Council
about
the
width
of
Footwear
along
the
frontage
which
compromised
the
planting
but
yeah.
No,
we
we
take
enforcement
action.
We
do
rely
on
developers,
you
know
abiding
with
what
they
say,
but
that's
probably
why
we
need
to
be
clearer
at
the
application
stage
about
what
they
can
realistically
achieve,
rather
than
showing
things
that
is
a
wish
list
and
then
something
something
else
comes
along
and
we
don't
get
the
planting.
G
We
expect
so
yeah
I
mean
I
I.
Think
resources
are
always
a
bit
of
an
issue,
but
generally,
if
we've
got
the
conditions,
we
can
serve
subsequent
notices
and,
if
necessary,
take
prosecution
action.
We
haven't
had
to
prosecute
I'm,
trying
to
think
anyone
recently
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
good
example,
but
certainly
we've
served
a
number
of
notices
and
secured
Landscaping
that
was
promised
but
has
not
arrived.