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A
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
ada
district
council
a
quick
health
and
safety
and
fire
announcement,
there's
no
fire
alarm
planned
during
this
meeting.
Therefore,
if
the
alarm
does
sound,
please
leave
via
the
nearest
exit
and
go
to
the
assembly.
Point,
don't
stop
to
collect
belongings
and
do
not
use
the
lift
and
the
assembly
point
is
in
the
car
park
of
the
showroom
center.
A
Just
so
for
everyone's
benefit.
This
meeting
is
being
live
streamed
and
for
the
sound
to
pick
up,
members
must
make
sure
their
microphone
is
turned
on.
Before
speaking
and
again,
we
we
have
some
public
questions
this
evening,
so
we
will
need
them
to
come
to
the
lectern
here
and
hit
the
microphone
straightforward
button.
A
Okay,
moving
on
to
the
agenda,
apologies
for
absence
I
have
not
received
any
apologies.
Do
I
have
any
counsel
aubry.
A
A
No
okay,
then
we
move
on
to
item
number
three,
which
is
the
questions
received
from
the
public.
We've
received
ten
pre-submitted
questions
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
We
have
one
first
question
and
then
we
have
a
number
straight
after
that
all
relate
to
the
same
issue,
which
is
the
meat
and
it's
lovely
to
see
so
many
people
here
this
evening.
A
What
I
intend
to
do
is
take
each
of
those
questions,
one
after
the
other
and
again,
if
you
come
up
to
the
lecture
and
press
the
press,
the
microphone,
there
is
a
response.
Obviously
the
executive
members
have
seen
the
pre-submitted
questions
once
we've
gone
through
all
those
questions
then
you'll
have
a
chance
to.
If
anyone
does
want
to
ask
a
supplementary
question
to
those
statements
that
given
you
can
come
back
up
and
ask
those
supplementary
questions.
Okay,
so
we'll
go
to
the
first
question,
which
is
kevin,
rosario
johnson,.
A
No
okay,
then
we
have
lots
of
questions
just
about
the
mies.
This
evening
we
will
go
on
to
question
number
two,
which
is
annalise
simon.
B
A
Okay,
siri
is
talking
to
me
now.
I
I
have
a
copy
of
the
question
if
you
like-
or
I
can
read
it
for
you
entirely:
okay,
dear
sirs
madams,
I'm
on
the
swiss
gardens
pta,
and
so
I'm
rather
passionate
about
improving
the
experience
of
our
children
at
swiss
gardens
primary.
I
just
wanted
to
send
a
brief
email
ahead
of
the
meeting
on
the
7th
of
april,
which
either
myself
or
my
husband
will
be
attending.
A
The
recent
pandemic
has
caused
a
lot
of
anxiety
in
children
and,
as
we
all
know,
outdoor
activity
can
hugely
improve
this.
This
is
especially
important
during
the
darker
winter
months,
when
children
can
really
only
get
outdoor
time
in
daylight
inside
school
hours.
This
is
also
precisely
the
time
of
year
that
regular
grass
becomes
waterlogged.
A
We
know
from
previous
consultations
with
the
council
that
an
all-weather
pitch
would
be
the
only
option
that
would
provide
long-lasting,
year-round
access
to
a
usable
playing
field.
Furthermore,
we
have
have
a
fantastic
head
who
has
been
campaigning
tirelessly
for
this
for
many
years.
Mr,
I
can't
put
cochlear
implant
cochlear
in.
A
Thank
you
very
much
is
much
respected
and
trusted
in
our
school
and
the
mere
fact
that
he
has
spent
so
much
time
and
energy
on
this
during
what
has
been
a
very
difficult
few
years
for
the
schools
says
enough
to
us
parents
as
to
how
important
this
all-weather
solution
must
be
for
our
children.
I
think
everyone
agrees
that
our
children,
who
spend
most
of
their
time
at
school,
deserve
to
grow
up
as
healthy,
happy
adults.
A
So
I
and
many
parents,
carers
and
grandparents
at
the
school
very
much
hope
we
finally
get
approval
for
the
all-weather
pitch
that
has
just
been
out
of
reach
for
the
past
five
years.
This
solution
is
highly
overdue
and
now
needed
more
than
ever.
Please
let
me
know
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
to
make
this
happen.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Victoria
radford.
A
C
C
So
swiss
gardens
has
to
use
the
mead
as
it's
out
sorry
outside
area
for
sports
and
play
as
they
don't
have
enough
space,
but
the
mead
is
unusable
for
one
third
of
the
time
due
to
the
condition
of
the
surface,
so
that's
equivalent
of
one
whole
term
where
the
children
have
no
access
to
a
safe
place
to
run
around
1
650
hours
of
missed
pe
and
play
opportunities
have
already
passed
since
the
funds
were
actually
allocated
to
swiss
gardens,
so
that
translates
to
300
hours
of
actual
child
play
for
every
week
that
the
council
doesn't
move
this
project
on.
C
So
this
is
not
just
a
nice
thought.
Playing
on
concrete
has
real
consequences
twice.
My
own
child
has
been
knocked
over
in
the
overcrowded,
concrete
and
been
hurt
badly
enough
that
I've
had
to
come
and
collect
him,
and
these
are
not
just
grazed
knees.
These
are
face
and
head
injuries,
the
second
of
which
bled
so
much.
I
had
to
replace
his
coat
and
playing
in
an
area
that
is
only
half
committed
to
the
children
also
has
consequences.
C
The
children
have
to
wait
while
their
teacher
checks
for
glass
broken
glass
and
for
dog
poo
before
they
start
the
pe.
There
was
one
time
my
son
missed
his
pe
lesson
after
he
sat
down
at
the
beginning
and
put
his
hand
into
dog
poo
and
had
to
go
in
and
clean
a
chap,
but
he
also
missed
his
munch
his
lunch
after
that,
because
he
just
couldn't
get
his
hand
to
feel
clean
enough
to
eat.
C
D
Hello,
green
good,
my
name's,
martha
mellors,
I'm
a
mum
of
three
children.
All
who
went
swiss
gardens
two
are
still
there,
I'm
also
chair
of
the
pta
at
the
school,
and
so
I'm
extremely
passionate
about
giving
the
children
the
education
and
the
open
space
that
they
need.
So
ada
council
leases
the
enclosed
area
of
the
means
to
west
sussex
council
for
the
use
of
swiss
gardens
primary
to
use
for
35
hours
a
week.
D
Sport
england
states
that,
at
most
natural
turf
pictures
have
a
weekly
coping
capacity
of
three
to
six
hours
for
adults.
This
is
this
does
rise
to
four
to
nine
hours
for
children.
Do
the
maths,
given
the
huge
discrepancy
between
the
hours
of
use
needed
and
the
hours
of
use
actually
viable
with
grass?
E
Hi
everybody
thanks
for
listening,
I'm
a
lead
governor
at
swiss
gardens
for
mental
health
and
wellbeing,
and
I'm
a
professional
in
mental
health
and
wellbeing
within
schools.
Just
firstly
to
give
a
bit
of
context
to
my
question.
I'd
like
to
briefly
summarize
some
observations,
a
genuine
comment
from
my
two
children
on
separate
occasions
a
few
weeks
ago
when
there
was
a
dry
spell
mummy,
we're
using
the
meads
now
and
I've
had
a
good
play
time
we're
on
the
meads
as
if
it
was
a
treat
to
be
given
that
opportunity.
E
First,
for
the
most
of
the
year,
the
children
are
required
to
play
in
small,
concrete
areas
that
surround
the
school,
where
there
is
also
constant
pedestrian
traffic.
Those
getting
from
one
space
to
the
other,
the
ground
is
harsh
and
accidents
happen
regularly
and
if
you
take
the
opportunity
to
see
the
children
at
the
play
times,
you'll
notice
that
there's
not
enough
space
to
run
or
move
and
children
are
constantly
having
to
navigate
other
children
and
staff.
E
As
a
professional
in
the
field
of
mental
health
and
well-being
within
schools.
I
cannot
stress
highly
enough
the
importance
of
having
sufficient
and
usable
outdoor
play
space
for
primary
school
children
with
higher
expectations.
Academically
children
need
the
opportunity
to
have
the
space
to
be
physical
during
play
times,
and
pe
and,
moreover,
post
pandemic.
There
is
even
more
of
a
requirement
for
children
to
have
outdoor
space.
E
There's
been
an
increase
of
cases
of
children
requiring
mental
health
and
emotional
support.
When
a
child
is
feeling
anxious
or
frustrated,
they
need
to
match
that
energy
by
doing
something
physical
that
can
change
their
energy
into
something
positive,
such
as
running
or
playing
ball
games
sitting
in
a
calm
room
will
not
always
support
that
child.
E
This
is
particularly
true
for
primary
age
children,
where
they
don't
have
the
emotional
maturity
to
actually
self-regulate
without
expelling
the
energy
they
have
by
increased
adrenaline
in
the
body.
Children
become
frustrated
and
angry,
which
can
lead
to
negative
behaviour
or
internal
and
external
self-harm.
E
E
Please
take
a
moment
to
note
that
this
is
10
times
less
than
the
recommended
amount.
The
nhs
indicates
that
one
out
of
the
five
areas
to
focus
on
to
support
wellbeing
is
physical
activity.
Children
spend
195
days
at
school
per
year
and
over
half
those
days
are
during
the
winter
months,
when
it's
dark
from
4
p.m.
Therefore,
an
opportunity
for
children
to
get
the
most
physical
exercise
to
support
their
well-being
is
during
the
school
day.
E
I
do
appreciate
the
concerns
of
the
surrounding
residents
and
in
an
ideal
world,
the
means
will
be
able
to
facilitate
children's
playtime
throughout
the
year
on
grass.
The
feasibility
study
indicates
that
20
of
the
year
this
would
not
be
possible
and
most
likely
during
the
winter
months,
when
the
children
need
it
most.
E
Considering
the
above,
my
question
is
where
all
570
parental
responses
on
behalf
of
the
children
who
attend
the
school
that
we're
in
favour
of
having
an
all-weather
pitch
to
support
the
mental
health
and
well-being
of
the
children
taken
into
consideration
and
what
is
to
propose
to
rectify
the
woeful,
inadequate
inadequacies
of
current
play
space
for
the
children.
Given
that
the
grass
option
is
most
likely
to
be
out
of
use
during
the
winter
months,
when
children
have
less
opportunity
to
play
outside
after
school
and
need
the
provision
in
school,
thank
you
for
your
time.
F
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
andrew
grave,
I'm
a
parent
of
two
children
at
swiss
gardens
and
one
that
is
likely
to
join
swiss
gardens
in
a
few
years
time,
the
sooner
the
better
a
little
rascal
anyway.
So
I
have
a
question
for
the
council
regarding
the
development
of
the
needs,
as
stated
the
media's
two
sets
of
users
who
unfortunately
seem
to
have
opposing
sets
of
needs.
F
Firstly,
the
children
who
use
the
enclosed
area
for
physical
education
and
play,
and,
secondly,
local
people
who
use
the
park
for
also
walking
their
dog
recreation,
etc.
F
Given
that
aid
accounts
were
required
to
serve
both
sets
of
of
people,
it
was
extremely
concerning
to
see
that
the
consultation
was
managed
by
a
company
whose
mission
statement
supports
the
first
set
of
people
at
the
second
set
of
people.
Sorry,
and
not
the
first,
they
didn't
support
the
kids
even
more.
Concerning
is
that
we
don't
see
where,
in
the
consultation,
the
needs
of
our
children
were
ever
actually
considered
or
investigated
it
just
weren't.
F
It
was
ignored,
despite
the
fact
that
450
children
within
swiss
gardens
are
the
main
users
of
the
enclosed
area
and
in
pure
numbers
they
overwhelm
the
number
of
users
for
the
needs.
F
F
F
G
My
name
is
laurence
coughlin,
I
am
the
head
teacher
at
swiss
gardens
primary
school,
so
you've
heard
some
powerful
evidence
from
some
of
our
parents.
So
far
when
I
started
as
head
teacher
at
swiss
gardens,
which
is
nearly
12
years
ago
now,
it
became
evident
very
quickly
that
the
medes
was
an
inadequate
space
for
the
children
at
the
school.
It
was
inadequate
for
their
social
emotional
needs
and,
most
importantly,
their
physical
health.
G
We
have
just
lived
through
a
pandemic,
we
are
now
moving
into
an
epidemic
and
that
epidemic
is
around
social
and
emotional
well-being
for
all
of
us
actually,
and
it
is
so
important
that
the
children
at
my
school
are
able
to
access
an
outdoor
space
year
round
day
in
day
out.
So
my
question
for
the
council
is
how
this
decision
or
non-decision,
because
we're
not
exactly
sure
about
it,
has
been
arrived
at.
How
is
it
catered
because
we
have
been
through
a
torturous
process
for
about
six
years
going
around
in
circles?
G
H
H
H
This
council,
I
stood
here
in
this
room
to
ring
fence
the
106
money
from
rope
tackle
north
to
improve
the
outside
space
on
on
the
me
to
make
it
usable
all
year
round,
it's
very
clear
what
the
money
was
for
the
leader
of
the
council
stood
up
and
said.
Basically,
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement,
and
we
can
we
can.
We
can
support
this
over
the
next
few
years.
H
We
have
many
meetings
with
emma
evans,
head
environment,
the
office,
the
office
senior
officers
involved
head
to
the
park
department,
during
which
time
everyone
broadly
said,
they
were
supportive
of
the
scheme.
H
After
some
local
opposition
started,
the
school
had
a
meeting
on
january,
the
10th
2020
with
senior
officers,
emma
evans,
kevin
borham
and
who
are
all
asked
in
the
face
of
local
opposition.
There
is
no
point
in
the
school
carrying
on
with
the
scheme
unless
we
have
your
support
and
we
ask
everyone
individually.
Do
we
have
your
support
every
person
in
that
room
said
they
supported
us.
This
was
the
last
meeting
we
had
with
the
councillors.
H
Despite
several
requests
in
january
21,
the
head
of
the
parts
department
met
the
school
and
told
us
that
the
consultation
had
gone
well.
The
independent
consultant
had
described
him
that
the
scheme
was
a
no-brainer.
There
was
significant
that
there
was
no
significant
environmental
impact,
that
there
was
a
clear
need
for
the
all-weather
space
that
new
grass
and
drainage
wouldn't
last
still
wouldn't
be
usable
and
he'd
be
recommending
an
all-weather
solution
to
the
jsc
as
effectively
the
budget
holders.
We
were
promised
that
we'd
have
a
chance
to
make
sure
our
voice
was
heard
in
that
forum.
H
H
I
beg
the
green
party
candidate,
not
to
use
the
needs
of
the
political
football
whilst
we're
trying
to
keep
our
teachers
alive
and
our
kids
educating
the
pandemic.
She
told
me
in
writing.
There's
nothing.
You
need
to
worry
about
as
chair
on
the
governor's
and
effectively
that
she
wouldn't
take
sides
a
short
while,
after
she
announced
her
election
material,
that
she
was
opposing
the
school's
wishes
without
telling
the
school.
First.
H
In
july
last
year
the
council
announced
it
had
expressed
a
preference
for
grass
in
direct
contradiction
of
the
advice
of
their
own
senior
officer
and
promises
they
had
made
to
me
personally
in
subsequent
meetings
with
the
senior
officers
involved.
A
number
of
promises
were
made
minuted
and
agreed
to.
I
have
all
the
emails.
H
These
include,
amongst
other
things,
a
commitment
from
the
senior
officer
to
provide
an
exemplary
well-drained
sports
and
play
space
that
he
would
organize
ground
usage
services,
ground
and
usage
surveys
over
the
winter,
get
data
on
different
services
and
bring
plans
to
start
the
shared
fundamentals
of
the
projects.
He
would
facilitate
meetings
with
local
councillors
that
he
present
evidence
that
a
grass
solution
is
sustainable
and
durable.
H
All
year
round
for
the
level
use,
we
anticipate
for
the
space
that
he
would
find
that
the
previous
senior
officers
heather
parks
recommendation
that
he
told
us
that
he
would
make
to
the
exec
councillors
recommending
the
all-weather
pitch
for
the
joint
strategic
committee
that
we
have
promised.
H
He
said
that
that
and
again
this
is
all
minuted,
that
a
district
council
would
re-evaluate
all
options
for
the
enclosed
need
space,
including
assessing
educational
need,
and
clearly
no
work
has
been
done
on
this.
Not
a
single
conversation
has
been
held
at
any
teacher
about
educational
need.
He
said
it
said
that
they
would
look
at
reassessing
costs,
durability.
All
round
use
value
for
money,
particularly
in
light
of
info
that
that
a
new
grass
pitch
would
with
would
have
would
have
a
very
high
maintenance
regime
that
it
was
unlikely
to
be
sustainable.
H
He
also
said
that
he
would
demonstrate
that
aida's
recommended
solution
is
compliant
and
the
existing
solution
with
statutory
obligations,
regular
guidance,
health
and
safety,
employment
law
and
guidance
on
school
place.
School
school
play
space.
As
far
as
we
are
aware,
none
of
these
promises
have
been
fulfilled.
H
This
is
from
this
is
from
a
meeting
in
july
and
september
last
year,
so
my
question
is
very
simple:
does
this
council
have
a
problem,
keeping
promises
to
primary
schools
and,
more
importantly,
taking
the
steps
necessary
to
keep
our
kids
safe.
A
Thank
you
very
much
all
for
your
questions
this
evening.
What
I'll
do
is
I
will
pass
over
to
executive
members
who
are
going
to
respond
and,
as
I
say
at
the
end,
if
you
have
any
supplementary
questions,
only
those
people
that
have
asked
questions,
I'm
afraid,
can
ask
supplementary
questions,
and
they
must
relate
to
any
of
the
statements
that
the
executive
members
are
just
about
to
make.
Are
we
councillor
don
councillor
dunn,.
I
They
raise
important
points,
some
which
I'd
I'd
not
heard
until
I've
read
them
earlier,
but
they
are
important,
but
there
are
some
there
that
do
seem
to
arise
from
a
misunderstanding
of
ada
district
council's
role
with
the
medes.
I
Firstly,
however,
they
highlight
the
importance
you
put
on
sport
and
recreation
for
your
children
at
swiss
gardens.
Both
my
daughters
now
make
their
livings
from
sport
and
both
still
participate
in
sports.
They
began
at
school,
so
I
know
firsthand
the
benefits
to
a
child's
mental
and
physical
development.
I
This
arrangement
came
about
as
a
request
from
west
sussex.
When
the
age
of
transfer
process
changed
the
school
from
a
first
school
to
a
primary,
the
expanded
school
created
then
no
longer
had
sufficient
outdoor
space
and
the
district
council
were
asked
by
west
sussex
to
allow
shared
use
of
the
medes
through
the
lease
arrangement.
I
It's
also
important
to
note
that,
as
the
planning
authority,
the
district
council
secures
section
106
contributions
from
developers,
primarily
on
behalf
of
other
parties,
in
respect
to
the
rope
tackle
north
development.
A
significant
education
contribution
was
secured
on
behalf
of
west
sussex
county
council,
while
these
contributions
are
usually
pooled
to
be
spent
across
the
district.
I
A
Sorry,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
sorry
can
I
just
interrupt
there.
Every
public
speaker
got
the
chance
to
put
their
question.
There
will
be
a
response
and
anyone
that
has
asked
a
question
will
have
the
right
to
come
and
ask
a
supplementary
question:
I'm
not
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
going
to
allow
calling
from
the
audience
etc
that
that's
not
going
to
happen.
I'm
afraid
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
executive
member,
okay.
I
This
money
could
be
used
to
upgrade
the
leased
area
and
we
understand
significant
gains
to
usability
are
to
be
had
through
enhanced
drainage
and
other
measures.
The
councillor's
landowner
has
already
intimated
support
for
such
enhancements,
committing
both
technical
and
project
support,
along
with
ongoing
maintenance.
I
I
I
I
It
does
feel
to
me
that
some
of
the
questions
put
to
us
this
evening
through
misunderstanding
were
based
on
false
premise
that
the
district
council
was
somehow
holding
things
up.
Don't
care
about
the
pupils
of
swiss
garden
school?
Don't
want
to
make
a
decision,
and
I
hope
I
have
clarified
the
district
council's
position.
I
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
and
I
totally
agree.
It's
been
a
very
long,
drawn-out
saga,
but
a
positive
I
feel
from
from
it
is
the
newly
formed
friends
of
group
which
I
believe
has
cross-party
support
here
and
a
lot
of
us
going
and
helping
with
digging
holes
and
planting
trees.
I
would
urge
you
all
to
get
involved
with
that
group,
because
I
do
believe
they
are
a
lot
of
the
parents
from
the
school
as
well
as
local
residents
and
actually
working
together
is
a
way
forward.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
questions
pose.
Thank
you
to
the
executive
members.
Do.
Does
anyone
here
this
evening
that
has
put
a
question.
Have
a
supplementary
question.
A
K
K
Sorry,
okay,
so
just
go
back
to
you.
How
are
the
friends
sorting,
which
are
great
group?
My
son
goes
and
plants
trees
with
them,
although
I'm
a
bit
unclear
about
when
that
all
got
agreed,
and
is
that
supposed
to
be
happening
genuinely?
This
is
like
a
question
yeah,
we
don't
know
yeah,
and
so
how
does
that
address
the
drainage
issue?
K
I
I
So
if
they
come
up
with
a
request
to
improve
the
drainage
and
the
grassed
area,
then
we
will
consider
that
as
landowner,
we
have
intimated
some
support
for
that
and
that
we
will
offer
the
project
management.
But
but
we've
got
to
be
asked
by
the
leaseholder
to
do
something
and
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
the
school
and
west
sussex
agree
on
how
they
want
to
do
that.
And
if
the
improvements
with
that
section
106
include
the
land,
then
we
will
get
on
to
that.
That's
fine,
but
we've
got
to
be
asked
as
landowner.
A
Thank
you,
council
don.
Yes,
I
have
two
hands
raised.
Would
you
like
a
supplementary
yeah
if
you
could
come
forward
again,
mr
coughlin,
at
that
time,.
G
A
G
I
will
come
to
it
as
quickly
as
is
possible.
We
are
in
continuous
dialogue
with
west
sussex
county
council
about
the
use
of
the
money.
I
suppose
my
straightforward
question
is
why,
during
this
process,
have
we
been
continuously
misled?
G
Who
are
the
decision
makers
because
we
were
reassured
through
the
process
that
decisions
would
be
made
by
ada
district
council
following
a
consultation
with
the
public
as
to
the
usage
of
the
land.
You
have
clearly
changed
your
position,
I'm
a
councillor
dunn.
I
don't
think
I've
spoken
to
you
previously
about
this,
but
you
have
clearly
changed
the
position
of
this
council.
G
I
It
it
wasn't
a
question,
but
I
will
I
will
answer
it.
Ada
district
council
is
not
the
educational
authority
never
has
been,
and
maybe
in
some
respects
we
would
quite
like
to
be.
Maybe
we
do
a
better
job
than
some
of
our
colleagues,
but
it
isn't
and
west
sussex
county
council
are
the
education
authority
and
they're
the
ones
that
have
to
make
the
decision
about
this
piece
of
land
what
they
would
like
us
to
to
use
it
for
us
to
do
with
it.
I
I
A
H
H
It's
not
recorded
as
a
decision,
and
that
was
announced
as
a
preference
in
the
stakeholder
meeting
last
july.
If
it
was
a
decision,
rather
preference,
the
school
would
have
means
to
be
able
to
challenge
it.
We
could
take
it
to
the
to
the
joint
committee
as
it
was
originally
promised,
and
we
could
we
could
round
the
judicial
review.
H
Ada
council,
as
as
you've
just
heard,
have
told
us
that
they
cannot
make
a
decision
until
west
sussex
has
told
them
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
money.
West
sussex
county
council
have
told
us
that
they
can't
prescribe
what
should
be
done
on
ada
land,
so
we
are
stuck
in
a
decision.
Responsibility,
vacuum.
H
About
what
made
what
did
they
land?
It
was
ada
who
insisted
that
they
wanted
the
project
manager
because
it
was
their
land.
They
wanted
to
deliver
this
project
right.
I've
got
minuted
meetings
coming
out
my
ears,
so
I
can
prove
that.
So
the
question
is:
how
can
the
council
help
provide
a
resolution
to
this
council
vacuum.
I
Well,
I've
tried
not
to
be
disingenuous
and
and
if
in
any
way
you
feel
I
have
been,
then
I
apologize
for
that.
Certainly
not
my
intention
and
not
the
way.
I
do
any
sort
of
business
whatsoever.
I
I
I
I
F
F
I
F
E
E
450
children,
their
parents
and
carers
who
live
in
the
vicinity
have
been
quiet
about
this,
as
told
to
so
when
you
say
that
you've
actually
addressed
the
whole
cons,
done
a
consultation
and
heard
what
the
neighbors
say.
You
have
not
actually
addressed
the
whole
neighborhood
and
460
people
that
bought
children
that
border
that
land.
A
I
So
the
consultation
on
the
thursday,
the
10th
of
december
2020,
there
was
a
session
with
allotment
holders
who
obviously
are
a
voice
there.
Seven
allotment
holders
responded
to
and
attended
that
consultation.
I
The
second
session
was
a
school
session
thursday,
the
10th
4
30
to
6,
30,
17
staff
and
or
parents
attended.
That
third
was
another
school
session
monday.
The
14th
of
december
2024
30
to
6
30
against
17
staff,
or
parents,
attended
that
four.
There
was
a
public
drop
in
friday.
The
11th
december
2020
28
people
attended
that
five,
another
public
drop-in
on
site.
I
I
A
A
D
When
is
the
worst
time
of
day,
to
do
anything
between
4,
30
and
6
30
in
the
afternoon
during
a
pandemic,
because
I
don't
know
about
anyone
else,
but
I
struggled
between
those
two
hours.
I
need
to
feed
bath
wash
dry,
all
of
the
above
for
those
exactly
teach
educate
myself,
but
for
four
hours
you
gave
450
children
the
opportunity
to
spend
four
hours
on
zoom.
D
D
I
I
get
I
do
get
the
part
about
the
timings
for
the
school
sessions.
There
was,
however,
public
drop-in
session
friday,
the
11th
10
till
four,
and
there
was
a
public
drop
in
on
site
saturday,
10
till
three.
I
So
unfortunately,
with
with
a
consultation
like
this,
and
we
didn't
set
the
consultation
up,
it's
done
by
an
independent
firm.
I
guess
there's
always
going
to
be
times
when
some
people
can't
make
it
there's
always
and
that's
unfortunate
now.
The
point
still
remains
that
this
consultation
just
guides
us
as
to
what
our
community
wants
us
to
do
with
that
land,
what
their
preference
is.
We
still
haven't
been
up.
A
M
I
Of
this
part,
but
I
think
that
is
actually
a
very
important
question:
how
can
you
influence
this
process,
so
you
can
write
to
your
county
councillor?
That's
fine
fill
their
mailbox
up.
You
can
write
to
mr
alway
down
in
county
hall.
That's
fine.
Phil
hears
up,
you
can
write
to
councillor
jup
at
county
hall
fill
his
mailbox
up.
I
can
assure
you,
when
councillors
start
getting
their
mailbox
filled
up
with
stuff.
They
actually
do
something
if
they
haven't
already
done
something.
So
that
is
the
way
to
do
it.
C
C
Second,
my
my
question
is
going
to
be
about
the
the
500
reasons
that
people
put
it
into
a
petition
from
this
is
like
over
500
families
wrote
an
individual
reason
why
this
was
important
to
them
and
the
reason
we
had
to
do
this
is
because
we
had
been
told
with
the
consultation
that
it
wasn't
about
a
referendum.
C
It
was
about
finding
out
what
people
wanted
to
do
with
the
park,
etc.
So
we
didn't
know
we
had
to
support
this
because
we
thought
it
was
already
supported.
So
when
we
found
that
out,
we
did
this.
So
my
question
is,
and
the
council
keeps
saying
that
there
was
clearly
no
public
support
and
yet
we've
proved
and
sent
you
the
public
support
here,
the
500
of
them.
C
So
my
question
is
why
why
doesn't
that
count
like
why?
Why
isn't
the
scene
as
public
support
this
500?
Thank
you.
I
So
that
is
cena's
support,
absolutely
and
and
support,
and
those
against
and
and
the
whole
gamut
of
responses
were
considered.
When,
when
we
came
up
with
the
the
preference
that
have
been
expressed
by
the
consultation,
we
did.
A
I
The
consultation
was
done
as
it
was
done
and
the
responses
on
there
were
considered
and
the
result
the
conclusion
was
drawn
from
that
consultation.
I
As
I
say
the
way,
the
way
to
move
this
on
is,
as
I've
said,
I
will
speak
to
councillor.
I
will
speak
to
graeme
alway,
but
you
also
you
need
to
email,
west
sussex
and
ensure
they
answer
the
school's
requests
to
meet
and
work
out
what
they
want
to
do
with
this
280
000
pounds.
I
There's
nothing
until
until
west
sussex
we
can,
we
can
say
we
want
to
do
all
sorts
of
things
with
that
piece
of
land.
But
until
our
leaseholder
comes
to
us
and
says
we
want
to
vary
that
lease
and
we
want
to
do
x,
y
and
zed
as
a
landowner.
We
don't
have
a
decision
to
make.
A
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
dunn.
No,
no!
You
can't
I'm
afraid.
No,
no,
I'm
afraid
you
can't
we've,
I'm
literally
20
minutes.
No!
No,
mr
reed!
No
I'm
afraid.
No,
I'm
afraid
you
can't
I'm
very
sorry.
We've
done
no!
No!
Well!
Then
I
I
do
have
the
right
to
adjourn
the
meeting.
I
would
like
you
not
to
disturb
this
meeting,
sir.
A
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
let's
get
started
again
after
a
very
short
interlude.
We
go
to
item
number
four,
which
is
confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
the
24th
of
february.
Can
I
sign
this
as
a
correct
record?
A
Thank
you
very
much,
and
then
we
come
on
to
announcements
and
my
announcements.
A
couple
of
civic
engagements
I
did
on
the
3rd
of
march.
I
planted
a
silver
birch
tree
in
brooklyn's
park
in
commemoration
of
those
that
lost
their
lives
during
the
pandemic
and
also
did
so
much
and
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
you
in
this
room
that
did
a
great
deal
during
that
time
as
well.
A
So
it's
a
silver
virtue,
it's
a
really
lovely
little
area
for
quiet
contemplation
in
brooklyn's
park
and
then
on
the
11th
of
march,
with
myself
and
again,
several
other
councillors.
I
plan
to
help
plant
an
oak
tree
in
buckingham
park,
which
is
part
of
the
queen's
green
canopy
project
to
mark
the
platinum
jubilee
and
my
children
were
absolutely
delighted
because
they
were
allowed
to
go
into
school
late.
That
morning,
friday
just
gone.
I
had
my
charity
golf
day
at
west
hove
golf
club
for
esteem.
A
Several
councillors,
councillor
dunn,
councillor
nicholas
and
good
friend,
mrs
connors,
at
the
back
there
played
in
let's
just
say
some
slightly
unusual
conditions
on
friday.
I
think
we
had
snow,
sleet,
40
mile
an
hour
winds,
blazing
sunshine.
I've
got
pictures
of
me
literally
full
snow
blizzard,
and
we
raised
over
3000
pounds
for
the
day
for
esteem,
so
it
was
great.
A
A
It's
very
nice
to
see
him
here
this
evening:
yeah
yeah,
you're,
quiet,
yeah,
yes,
so
yeah
I'd
like
to
thank
all
those
that
have
supported
the
chairman's
charity
over
over
the
past
year,
and
I
know
that
steamer
absolutely
I'll,
give
some
numbers
I
think
next
month,
when
we
do
the
handover
as
to
what
that
means
to
in
terms
of
sessions
etc,
that
they're
able
to
give
to
esteem,
and
they
were
absolutely
ecstatic
with
that
money.
A
Finally,
it
might
already
be
known,
but
I'm
actually
stepping
down
from
my
role
as
councillor
after
seven
years.
I've
fought
three
elections
and
I
have
genuinely
immensely
enjoyed
my
time
as
a
counselor.
Perhaps
apart
from
the
last
two
meetings
that
I've
chaired,
I
made
my
intentions
known
to
the
leader
before
christmas.
I've
got
a
ten-year-old
daughter
about
to
turn
seven-year-old
son.
I
work
in
a
busy
letting
and
managing
agents,
and
it
was
time
that
I
I
needed
some
some
family
time
with
all
the
groups
etc.
A
So
yeah,
I
made
the
leader,
know
my
intention
before
christmas,
and
it
wasn't
as
a
result
of
a
recent
planning
meeting.
Although
many
people
on
facebook
seem
to
think
it
might
have
been,
I
don't
have
a
long
and
rousing
speech
except
to
say
that
I
hope
councillors
on
all
sides
of
the
chamber
treat
each
other
respect
and
choose
your
words
publicly
carefully.
A
Following
that
planning
meeting,
the
police
actually
had
to
get
involved
in
messages
that
I
was
receiving
over
social
media
that
referenced
my
family
started
targeting
my
business
and
it
was.
It
was
particularly
unpleasant,
regardless
of
whether
you
agreed
with
my
decision
on
that
we're
all
here.
We
all
need
to
make
decisions
and
we
should
be
free.
A
We
know
with
recent
history,
with
mps
etc
and
attacks
and
murders,
indeed
that
we're
here
to
make
decisions
and
we're
all
here
to
help
the
area
that
we
love
and
we
live
in.
So
please
do
choose
your
words
carefully
and
treat
each
other
with
respect.
A
Some
highlights
for
me
have
been
genuinely
the
hundreds
of
constituents
that
I've
been
able
to
help
over
the
last
seven
years
in
terms
of
emails
and
case
work,
which
is
the
sort
of
bread
and
butter
of
the
stuff
that
we
do.
The
deterrence
on
southwark
green
was
a
was
a
real
highlight
and
I've
had
lots
and
lots
of
members
of
the
public
in
south
up
green
that
were
very
happy
with
those
and
some
of
the
developments
that
I
do
now
see
that
have
gone
up.
A
I
want
to
thank
all
the
officers
that
have
helped
me
all
along
the
way
and
apologies
that
I've
caused
you
strife
in
certain
meetings
and
best
of
luck
to
all
of
you
that
are
standing
up
in
the
that
are
standing
in
the
may
elections
and
best
of
luck
to
those
that
are
not
standing.
Thank
you
leader.
Do
you
have
any
announcements.
O
N
Just
to
wish
well
all
those
members
are
retiring
for
whatever
reason,
and
to
thank
you
for
your
sterling
work
over
the
years
being
the
sort
of
fog
or
one
of
the
group
as
it
were,.
N
Here,
quite
as
a
mess,
yet
no
thank
you,
and
also
to
also
particularly
thank
councillor
bogus
sitting
at
the
end.
There
who's
been
a
real,
strong
right-hand
man
for
me
over
many
years
and
there's
lots
of
things
happening
around
ada.
That's
you
know,
it's
certainly
got
his
fingerprints
all
over
him
and
he's
put
a
lot
a
lot
of
hours
in
for
the
for
the
area
of
the
people,
and
I
wish
it
wished
him
well
in
his
retirement
and
he
still
doesn't
look
anywhere.
N
Q
Yes,
I
would
like
to
say
a
few
words,
mr
chairman,
like
yourself,
this
is
my
last
meeting
and
thank
you
leader
for
your
very
kind
comments.
Q
Q
It
brings
to
an
end
my
serving
as
a
district
councillor
for
peveral
ward
in
something
it's
been
18
years,
since
I
was
first
elected
and
since,
throughout
that
period
I've
been
involved
with
planning
issues.
There's
been
some
interesting
debates,
but
those
who
know
me
well
will
know
that
I've
always
enjoyed
like
the
chairman.
I
guess
a
good
argument
and
there's
been
a
few
during
that
period
I
very
much
enjoyed
representing
the
community
and
wish
my
success
as
well
in
their
future
efforts.
Q
I'd
like
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
support
during
this
time,
particularly
councillor
parkin
who's
who's.
Sometimes
brusque
manor
belies
his
clear
understanding
of
what's
necessary
to
move
the
district
forward.
Q
As
I
look
back
over
the
past
years,
I've
served
under
four
chief
executives
seen
the
joining
of
the
service
operations
of
our
two
councils,
overseeing
the
creation
of
the
district
plan,
the
departure
from
our
old
civic
center
into
our
new
facilities.
Here,
the
implementation
of
major
parts
of
that
plan
in
the
western
harbour
arm
and
new
monks
farm
and
the
move
to
a
very
move
on
to
a
very
green
agenda
set
in
a
benchmark
for
other
local
authorities.
Q
But
there's
lots
to
come
and
I'm
confident
that
under
our
newish
chief
executive,
aida
district
will
continue
to
prosper.
And
I
wish
you
sincerely
all
well
for
the
future.
I
I
It's
the
bit
after
that
I
struggled
with
so
we
do
later
on
in
the
agenda,
have
an
item
on
allowances,
and
this
is
slightly
linked
to
that
a
little
bit
not
entirely
we
we
have
become
more.
I
know
I
think
it
was
probably
a
topic
in
the
governance
debate
become
quite
concerned
that
councillors
allowances
the
way
councillors.
Allowances
are
treated
in
respect
of
certain
benefits
when
it
comes
to
a
national
picture.
I
A
Thank
you
very
much:
okay,
no
further
announcements,
chief
exec.
No,
then
we
move
on
to
item
six
items
raised
under
provisions
and
there
are
no
urgent
items.
So
we
move
on
to
item
seven,
which
is
recommendations
from
the
executive
and
committees
we'll
go
to
7a,
joint
strategic
and
it's
the
renewal
of
adrian
worthing
well-being,
partnership.
N
Right.
Thank
you
chairman.
N
A
A
N
Regret
is,
I
couldn't
attend
that
thing
last
week
with
the
you
know
that
went
it
was
most
of
the
evening,
but
yes,
there's
other
things
to
do
that
night.
Unfortunately,
but
there
we
are.
A
A
A
L
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
make
a
statement
on
this.
If
that's
okay,.
L
Indeed,
it's
been
a
while
it
has
been
a
while
you're
right,
I
was
out
of
the
out
of
maybe
this
will
warm
me
up,
and
so
I'd
like
to
talk
to
the
the
pathways
to
affordable
home
7b
and
it
states
there
is
a
need
to
address
gaps
with
respect
to
social
and
affordable
housing
in
the
context
of
both
rent
and
purchase,
and
the
strategy
appended
to
that,
of
course,
is
the
adrian
worthing
housing
strategy
2020-2023
and
the
report
talks
of
the
756
families
on
the
housing
list
and
there
being
a
shortfall
of
ability
to
secure
housing
due
to
land
availability
and
that,
as
a
consequence,
it
is
vital
that
land
that
is
available
for
development
is
used
efficiently,
efficiency
efficiently
and
to
help
meet,
affordable
housing
needs
are
maximized.
L
We
are
glad
that
the
report
recognises
the
gap
between
market
price
and
affordable
and
social
housing,
and
the
stated
ambition
of
the
report
is,
that
is
to
ensure
that
all
residents
have
access
to
the
homes
they
need
in
order
to
thrive,
and
this,
too,
is
our
benchmark.
We
place
on
the
homes
that
our
residents
currently
and
potentially
live
in,
and
we
welcome
the
projects
achieved
already
at
ravens
road.
L
L
Yes,
we
recognise
that
ada
was
sandwiched
between
the
south
downs
national
park
and
sea.
However,
we
have
done
some
comparisons
and
we
are
one
of
the
lowest
council-owned
social
housing
authorities.
In
the
south
east
we
have
built
0.4
council
rent
homes
per
every
1
000
residents
over
the
last
30
years.
L
We
do
we
deal
day
in
day
out
with
poor
standard,
private
and
ada
homes,
housing
casings.
These
cases
are
only
escalating.
What
we
seek
is
good
quality,
social
housing
first
and
foremost,
and
we
do
not
refrain
from
speaking
out
if
we
feel
that
our
residents
are
not
getting
this
now,
we
will
always
bring
material
planning
considerations
to
bring
to
the
planning
committee,
and
these
homes
must
be
fit
of
high
quality
and
sustainably
built
to
lower
energy
consumptions.
L
We
encourage
this
council
to
work
with
the
partners.
It
notes
in
the
report
moving
from
a
might
to
a
will,
including
housing,
association,
charities,
community
land
trust
developers
and
contractors
or
capital
investors.
These
are
smaller
projects
that
would
lead
that
would
spread
the
risk,
lower
the
impact
on
one's
communities,
infrastructure
and
spread
the
resulting
traffic
increases.
S
The
money
for
social
housing
was
not
supported
by
the
opposition,
so,
first
of
all
they
they
did
not
vote
for
the
budget
which
this
was
included
in
that's
the
first
thing.
Secondly,
I
I
have
to
say
that-
and
I
never
thought
I'd
probably
say
this,
but
I
do
agree
with
the
counselor
we
aren't
building
quickly
enough.
S
When
we
first,
when
I
first
took
this
position
over,
there
was
no
one
in
the
council
itself
who
were
capable
of
going
through
the
process
of
getting
everything
together,
doing
the
consultations
and
everything
else
we
had
to
get
the
staff
in
to
do
that.
S
The
staff
are
now
in
place
to
do
that
and
if
they
look
across
the
river.
An
hour
ago,
you
looked
across
the
road
and
seen
our
first
development.
That's
only
the
first
one,
but
some
of
the
others
were
listed
by
the
councillor
and
we've
got
right
off
hand.
I
can
say
three
major
projects
that
are
in
in
the
in
the
process
of
right
now
and
also
all
of
our
smaller
projects
and
to
compare
this
council
to
crawley.
S
That
crawley
is
so
much
bigger.
Paulie
crowley
has
so
much
money.
S
We
we
can
only
borrow
to
build
within
our
capacity
and
believe
you
me
I.
This
council
is
fighting
way
above
its
weight
in
the
building
process
and-
and
I
said
I
do
agree
with
the
counselor-
we
do
have
to
build
more
and
this
isn't
what
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
now
and
the
the
support
that
we
get
from
the
opposition
will
be
greatly
appreciated,
but
I
still
can't
understand
why
this
question's
come
up
when
they
did
not
support
the
budget
where
all
the
funds
to
do
all
this
building
was
included.
R
Well,
it's
very
exciting
to
be
standing
up
for
the
first
time
at
one
of
these
meetings
in
my
11
months.
This
has
not
happened
yet.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
this
issue
of
affordable
homes
and
social
housing,
it's
one
of
my
absolute
passions
having
several
people
in
my
ward
living
in
really
well
unfit
accommodation.
There
are
several
areas
of
unfit
accommodation.
In
my
ward,
everyone
thinks
the
knicks
lovely,
leafs
and
nicks,
but
there
are
really
dodgy
areas,
as
neil
will
know,
that
need
serious
amounts
of
work.
Now.
R
Clearly,
there's
been
an
issue
over
the
last
decade
of
not
properly
maintaining
these
properties.
There's
been
a
real,
serious
issue
with
ada
homes.
From
my
work
with
akin
akinyebo,
it
does
seem
that
things
are
turning
round
and
we
can
thank
the
transformation
and
manager
joe
thane
for
her
work
on
this,
but
also
all
the
work
that's
taking
place
in
planning
to
try
and
maximize
the
amount
of
development,
the
number
of
properties
that
can
be
built.
R
I
think
we
need
to
really
look
at
the
balance
of
social
versus,
affordable
housing,
so
many
people
in
this
room
share
that
agenda.
We
also
need
to
look
at
our
climate
change
commitments
when
we're
building
properties.
We
should
not
be
installing
properties
with
gas
boilers
anymore.
We
should
be
building
homes
to
passive
house
standards
or
something
equivalent.
R
We
should
be
future
proofing,
anything
that
we
build
from
now
on,
and
it's
a
great
concern
to
me
when
I
see
developments
coming
up,
sometimes
they're,
fantastic,
anything,
great
lots
of
social
homes
other
times
it's
all
for
private
rent,
it's
all
going
to
bring
in
new
people
to
the
town,
but
they're
not
properly
built.
We
see
problems
with
project
finishing
off
in
some
of
the
the
developments
that
have
been
built
recently.
So
the
overview
is,
we
need
more
homes,
we
need
more
social
homes.
R
We
need
homes
for
the
people
already
live
here
in
in
adequate
provision.
We
need
homes
for
people
who
are
currently
sofa
surfing.
We
need
homes
for
the
750
ish
families
are
on
the
housing
waiting
list
at
the
moment,
and
we
need
to
really
look
at
the
infrastructure
implications
of
building
homes
that
will
draw
new
people
into
the
area
that
are
not
maximizing
the
land
use.
We
need
to
look
at
the
dodgy
deals.
I'm
saying
that
I
shall
take
that
back.
R
We
need
to
look
at
the
faustian
pact
that
we're
making
with
some
of
the
developers
so
that
in
exchange
for
them
building
some
homes
for
us,
they
will
get
lots
of
money.
We,
I
know
that's
how
capitalism
works,
but
it
doesn't
always
deliver
what
we
need
so
areas
of
homes
being
built
in
our
town
if
they're
social
homes,
if
they
meet
the
needs
of
our
residents,
if
they're
future
proof
are
to
be
welcome,
but
if
they
are
poorly
constructed
badly
finished,
not
adequately
project
managed.
We
do
need
to
hold
these
developers
to
account.
A
R
R
A
I
Thank
you
chairman,
as
if
I've
not
spoken
enough
already
today,
so
I'm
I'm
like
councillor
aubry
are
going
to
agree
with
quite
a
lot
of
what's
been
said.
We
do
need
to
build
more
houses
and
we
need
to
build
them
as
quickly
as
possible.
We
do
need
to
build
as
high
quality
as
possible
and
ones
which
are
future
proof
and
etc.
I
think
we
do
need
to
be
careful
when
we
talk
about
social
housing
versus
affordable
housing,
because,
of
course,
affordable.
I
Housing
includes
social
housing,
and
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
careful
in
making
a
an
assumption
that
all
we
need
to
deal
with
our
housing
waiting
list
is
socially
rented
properties
because,
of
course,
there's
a
a
housing
crisis
in
every
sector
of
of
the
market.
So
there
are
people
that
can
afford
to
buy
a
house
at
one
level,
but
until
those
houses
are
built,
they're
still
blocking
stuff
up.
I
So
so
I
think
we
do
the
strategy,
I
think,
starts
getting
there
in
a
much
better
and
formulated
way
than
probably
ever
we've
had
before.
So
I
welcome
it.
N
Yeah,
thank
you,
chairman
council.
Chris
comments
on
I'm
sure.
Once
she's
been
here
a
bit
longer
she'll
realize
that
there's
some
things
the
council
can
do
and
responsible
for
and
there's
others
that
aren't
one
of
the
greatest.
I
think
things
that
have
happened
in
recent
years
is
developers
don't
have
to
use
building
control
supply
by
the
council
anymore.
They
can
use
their
own
and
that's
causing
all
sorts
of
problems,
but
it's
out
of
our
hands
totally
out
of
hands
and
regarding
the
wish
list
from
the
labor
group.
N
Well,
yeah
I
mean
716.
Is
it
on
the
way
to
this
one
56
yeah?
It's
not
the
same
756!
Obviously,
but
you
know
it's
it's
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
that
isn't
good,
but
I
think
brighton
over
next
door
is
18
000..
N
So
you
know
gives
you
some
idea,
but
we're
doing
the
best.
We
can
it's
only
in
the
last
few
years.
I
can't
remember
how
many
exact
years
that
we've
actually
been
allowed
to
have
the
money
to
actually
do
anything.
You
know
to
build
our
own
homes
and,
of
course,
all
the
ones
the
social
housing
affordable
a
lot
of
the
affordable.
These
days
are
part
mortgage
part
rent,
which
is
a
good
way
of
getting
younger
people
onto
the
housing
ladder.
N
Of
course,
I
think
nearly
every
application,
if
not
every
application-
that's
come
before
this
council
has
been
opposed
by
the
labor
group
so
including
for
tooth
and
neck.
No,
no,
oh
I'll,
have
to
check
then,
but
new
monks
farm,
which
is
a
120
social
housing.
I
think
I
remember
somebody
almost
dying
in
a
ditch.
You
could
always
say
to
sort
of
that
one,
but
yes,
there's
that's!
No!
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it
anyway.
N
This
is
a
good
way
forward
and
I'll
certainly
agree
with
how
the
housing
team
see
it's
a
bit
like
an
oil
tanker
seems
to
be
in
turned
round
and
getting
somewhere.
A
I'll
stop
you
then
councillor
parking,
okay,
we'll
now
have
a
vote
by
wesh
our
hands.
You're
voting
on
recommendations
on
page
11
of
your
agenda
can
all
those
in
favor
please
raise
your
hands.
A
I
think
that's
unanimous
again:
yeah
yeah,
that's
unanimous
and
is
carried.
We
move
on
to
7c,
which
is
council
loader,
and
the
joint
overview
and
scrutiny
committee.
The
work
program,
councillor
loader.
P
T
T
This
should
not
be
a
committee
where
members
turn
up
to
make
up
the
numbers.
Thorough
scrutiny
should
exist
to
strengthen
the
work
of
the
council
and
its
decision
making.
So
we
can
meet
the
needs
of
our
communities.
Indeed,
our
communities
also
need
to
be
encouraged
to
become
more
actively
involved.
T
U
I
was
present
at
that
meeting
and
I
actually
had
several
questions
that
I
was
going
to
ask.
I
raised
my
hand
to
ask
questions,
but
members
that
stood
before
me
and
asked
questions
actually
asked
what
I
was
going
to
ask.
So
the
fact
that
a
concepted
counselor
didn't
ask
a
question
doesn't
mean
we
weren't
going
to
ask
one.
There's
no
point
asking
a
question.
That's
already
been
asked.
Thank
you.
V
Thank
you.
I
share
lee's
sentiments.
Sorry
councillor
cowan's
sentiments.
I'm
pleased
to
support
the
joss
work
prop
program.
The
work
that
we
do
does
have
value.
I'm
sure
that
you
don't
hear
it
very
often,
but
I
was
genuinely
excited
to
be
given
a
role
on
josk.
V
It's
a
great
responsibility
and
the
role
should
be
taken
seriously.
I've
been
disappointed
as
councillor
cowan,
however,
to
see
that
it
isn't
the
case
for
all
members,
and
that
is
relatively
consistently
over
the
meetings
that
I
have
attended.
V
Personally,
as
a
teaching
professional,
the
process
of
critical
reflection
has
been
crucial
to
my
professional
progress
and
my
students
progress
in
their
learning.
It
is
a
core
part
of
the
teaching
standards
that
have
to
be
achieved
before
you
qualify.
The
principles
behind
this
are
simple:
no
reflection,
no
learning,
no
progress.
V
This
complacency
and
apparent
contempt
for
the
work
of
our
committee
does
not
do
our
council
nor
our
residents,
justice,
josk
and
our
residents
deserve
a
far
more
engaged
membership
than
it
currently
retains,
and
a
much
more
reflective
and
participatory
culture
from
all
parts
of
the
chamber.
I
stand
by
my
assertion
that
the
work
that
we
do
has
value
and
I
really
do
hope
to
see
a
more
cooperative
and
collegiate
approach
moving
forward.
This
council
can-
and
it
really
should
do
better.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
actually
wasn't
going
to
talk
on
this
factor
tonight,
but
I
feel
compelled
to
now.
So
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
experience
of
josk
and
I
I
totally
agree
with
councillor
cowan
and
councillor
sleeman's
thoughts.
L
Is
that
really
briefly,
I
I
chaired
a
working
group
at
at
josk
in
my
first
six
months
of
to
a
year
of
being
a
counsellor,
and
it
was
a
really
terrible
experience
and
I
felt
like
voices
weren't
heard
I
actually
do
back
up
what
councillor
karen
and
and
councillor
slimless
said
is
that
in
the
main
most
of
the
conservative
councillors
do
not
use
scrutiny
in
the
proper
in
the
proper
ethical
way
it
should
be
in
a
democratic
process.
L
I
the
thing
we
have
to
also
consider
is
the
amount
of
time
that
people
give
to
the
working
groups,
and
this
is
additional
time
to
the
the
meetings
themselves,
which
tend
to
go
on
quite
long,
and
I
was
asked
at
the
time
by
the
officer.
I
won't
name
names
why
I
came
off
of
josk
and
I
said
because
I
do
not
have
additional
hours
to
waste
away
from
my
children
for
three
or
four
hours
or
or
even
six
or
ten
hours
at
the
working
groups
take.
L
O
Council
later,
I
won't
keep
you
too
long
anyway.
I
just
I
I
I
really
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
member
of
of
joss,
but
I'm
I
very
succinctly,
I'm
just
a
bit
disappointed
that
this
topic
this
particular
subject
should
have
been
about
the
work
program
setting.
It
seems
to
be
rather
hijacked
about
criticism
of
the
actual
joss
committee,
which
I
just
find
a
little
bit
disappointing.
A
I
think,
with
my
chairing
recently,
I'm
just
going
to
allow
a
little
bit
of
debate
this
evening.
Councillor,
council
nicholas
I
I
will
I'm
gonna
have
my
final
piece
before
I.
I
obviously
used
to
chat
I'd
like
to
thank
councillor.
Oh
councillor,
dunn,
I
won't
have
my
piece.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah,
I
can
have
your
piece
in
a
moment
and
we've
taken
the
hint
about
time
chairman.
I
I'm
absolutely
disappointed
that
our
opposition
have
decided
they
are
supremely
qualified
to
judge
the
amount
of
work
that
any
other
councillor
puts
into
this.
The
volume
of
questions
chairman
is
no
measure
of
the
quality
and
well
it
isn't.
I
You
can
carry
on
asking
questions
an
empty
vessel
makes
the
most
noise,
I
think,
was
one
of
the
phrases
that
came
to
mind,
so
I
it
would
be
my
suggestion
that
all
members
of
josk
and
all
indeed
all
councillors,
concentrate
on
their
own
performance
and
before
they
start
criticizing
others,
and
I
am
very
happy
that
councillor
loader
is
independent.
Chairman.
W
Thanks
chair,
thank
you,
everybody.
We
don't
really
know
dewey
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
election
and
we
don't
really
know
whether
we'll
have
a
joke.
We
might
not.
I'm
not
sure
it
might
be
an
ask,
I'm
not
sure,
but
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
goes.
But
but
whatever
happens,
we'll
have
a
role
for
scrutiny
and.
W
I
think
what's
really
what
we'd
like
to
see
really?
Is
everybody
pre-submitting
questions?
So
everybody's
got
questions
on
the
night?
That's
great,
but
it's
it.
You
know
it's
good
to
know
that
everybody's
read
the
pack
and
that
everybody
pre-submits
something
where
it's
relevant
and
where
it's
useful
for
their
constituents.
W
So
what
I
wanted
to
ask,
specifically,
though,
or
mention
specifically,
was
around
the
addition
that
I
asked
to
be
put
in
to
the
work
program,
and
that
is
around
members.
We,
we
spoke
about
vulnerable
people
and
the
use
of
out
of
area
temporary
accommodation.
W
I've
got
too
many
people
in
caseload
that
are
out
of
area
quite
a
few
of
them
pregnant
quite
a
few
of
them
due
very
shortly,
and
it
was
really
heartening
that
everybody,
unjust,
agreed
that
that
item
was
added
to
the
work
programme.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
having
that
scrutinised
going
forward.
Thank
you.
X
Mcgregor,
thank
you.
I
chairman.
I
have
to
say
that
councillor
cowan's
speech
did
not
show
a
full
understanding
of
the
work
of
josk.
Josque
isn't
just
the
josque
committee
meetings.
Josk
is
also
the
working
groups
and
I
was
on
the
I've
been
on
many
working
groups
and
there
we
asked
many
questions
of
the
witnesses
who
come
along
to
talk
to
us.
X
A
Okay,
if
there's
no
further,
I
am
going
to
add
my
own
to
pen
of
worth,
because
I
was
chair
of
joint
over
and
scrutiny
with
with
just
being
my
advice
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
assistance.
Good
scrutiny
does
involve
buy-in
from
all
sides
and
I
we
certainly
did
kick
executive
members
and
asked
them,
and
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
my
first
ever
meeting
and
the
late
great
davis,
mr
simmons,
who
my
first
ever
meeting.
A
I
came
there
with
a
like
a
new
boy
at
school
and
had
about
seven
or
eight
questions,
and
I
sort
of
apologized
to
him
and
said:
I'm
sorry,
I've
asked
questions,
you
mean,
don't
be
stupid.
This
is
brilliant.
This
is
what
it's
for
it's
to
be
here.
The
problem
with-
and
I
do
know
from
having
had
to
do
lots
of
tinkering
with
it-
to
try
and
engage
more
people
with
josk.
Is
that
asking
for
questions
that
frankly,
could
have
been
asked
by
email
to
the
executive
member
and
doesn't
need
a
full
committee.
A
Space
is
as
much
of
a
waste
of
time
as
as
the
opposite
side
of
no
asking
at
all,
so
that
you
absolutely
need
to
to
question
the
executive
members
and
anyone
else
that
comes,
but
frankly,
a
lot
of
those
questions.
A
We
would
go
through
and
say:
well,
that's
that's
a
two-second
question
that
as
a
counsellor,
you
should
be
doing
it
and
I
will
come
back
to
one
point
raised
in
terms
of
preparing
in
in
everyone
should
be
reading
all
of
your
papers
before
you
come
to
any
meeting,
and
it
is
absolutely
evident
in
the
seven
years
that
I've
been
a
counsellor
that
that
is
not
always
the
case.
That's
that's
bread
and
butter,
stuff
that
absolutely
everyone
should
do
so.
Yes,
I
I
do
the
work
program.
A
P
P
We
need
to
be
more
rigorous,
we
need
to
be
more
robust,
and
that
applies
right
across
the
chamber.
You
do
have
an
independent
chairman.
I
have
never
been
a
member
of
the
conservative
party.
I
have
never
been
a
member
of
the
labour
party
and
frankly
I
never
will
so.
My
independence
is
quite
assured,
I'm
very,
very
happy
being
able
to
say
what
I
want
when
I
want.
P
A
A
Thank
you
proposal
is
carrie.
Thank
you
very
much
councillor
going
to
sit
down.
Oh
my
god
bless
you.
Okay,
we
move
on
to
7d
joint
governance
committee,
councilor
mcgregor
you're,
going
to
present
the
proposed
visions
to
contract
standing
orders.
X
A
T
Thank
you
chairman.
We
we
very
much
welcome
this
report.
We
are
talking
about
contract
standing
orders.
T
I
lost
my
way.
I
lost
my
way.
No,
it's
totally
my
fault.
What
what
did
interest
me
mostly,
is
that
the
main
change
is
this
10
and
the
social
value
of
including
contracts,
and
that's
very,
very
welcome,
and
hopefully
this
may
encourage
partners
to
include
things
like
training
schemes
for
younger
people.
T
It
also
mentions
about
local
procurement,
which
is
again
something
that
we
support
on
this
side
and
and
that
isn't
going
to
be
included.
Much
more
is
great.
It
would
be
so
much
better
that
in
future
it
could
be
maybe
even
more
robust
and
make
up
a
certain
percentage
of
contracts
that
so
that
the
the
work
is
kept
locally,
and
it
is
important
because
you
know,
we've
declared
a
climate
emergency.
We
talk
about,
go
shopping
going
local.
Yet
often
the
council
doesn't
put
its
money
where
its
mouth
is.
T
Maybe
it
might
be
better
if
some
of
the
contracts
were
broken
up
further
so
that
we
can
so
that
we
can
provide
those
services
more
local,
that
might,
and
they
may
have
a
better
chance
of
bidding
those
contracts.
Thank
you.
X
Thank
you,
councillor,
cameron,
for
praising
the
recommendation
on
page
15.,
there's
nothing
new
there.
Thank
you
very.
A
Much
okay,
we'll
now
have
a
vote
or
by
the
way,
a
show
of
hands.
You
are
voting
on
the
recommendations
on
page
15
of
the
agenda.
All
those
in
favor,
please
raise
your
hands
again.
I
make
that
unanimous.
A
That's
unanimous!
Therefore
it
is
carried
and
you
can
stay
where
you
are,
and
I'd
like
to.
Thank
you
for
being
my
vice
chair
as
well,
that
I
didn't
mention
now
how
of
josk
not
of
this,
because
I
haven't
done
it
yeah.
Can
we
have
7e
joint
governance
committee?
Please.
X
Thank
you,
I'm
here
to
present
the
scheme
of
allowances
for
the
council
for
2022-23
from
the
joint
governance
committee
meeting
on
the
22nd
of
march
2022..
X
Now
before
I
come
on
to
them,
I
would
just
like
to
appeal
to
councillor
dunn.
You
are
going
to
be
investigating
the
effect
on
on
benefits
caused
by
councillors,
allowances
and
at
the
governance
meeting
councillor
stainforth
spoke
at
length
about
the
effect.
So
if
you
could
include
her
in
your
deliberations
as
long
as
she's
willing
to
join
him
with
that
counselor's
staying
forth,
I
think
you
would
contribute
a
lot
to
it.
A
I
Thank
you
chairman.
I
would
like
to
move
that
we
defer
this
item
to
the
next
ordinary
council
meeting
the
reason
being
twofold.
Firstly,
the
allowances
are
linked
to
the
njc
award
and
we
don't
know
what
that
is
as
yet
and,
secondly,
the
council
composition
may
change
come
may.
It
seems
indeed-
and
it
seems
slightly
odd
to
me
that
we
as
an
outgoing
council
are
making
decisions
for
what
may
be
a
completely
different
council
in
the
future.
I
I
do
understand
there
is
a
country
argument
to
that,
but
this
is
the
it's
the
way.
It
feels
to
me
that
we
shouldn't
be
making
this
decision,
but
we
should
be
deferring
it.
Thank
you,
chairman,
okay,
so
you're
making
a
proposal
of
the
deferment
to
the.
A
Next
order,
do
I
have
a
second
councillor
council,
buxton,
okay,
having
having
obviously
an
amendment
and
having
a
second
or
we
can
now
debate
the
amendment
counselor
cowan.
T
Thank
you
for
that,
just
thinking
off
the
top
of
my
head.
If
we're
talking
about
deferring
it
to
the
next
meeting,
that
may
be
the
first
meeting
for
new
councillors.
T
T
I
I
I
wouldn't
feel
too
comfortable
about
that,
but
yeah
I'd
like
to
hear
you
know
what
other
people
got
to
say
about
that,
because
I
never
thought
this
was
gonna.
You're
gonna
amend
this
okay.
Thank
you.
V
V
V
I'm
pleased
to
hear
that
there
will
be
a
further
review
to
consider
the
pay
awards
for
2023-24
and
that
the
issues
of
parity
will
be
reviewed
at
this
time.
So
I
hope
that
that
will
still
happen.
I
also
welcome
councillor
dunn's
suggestions
that
allowances
and
their
interactions
with
benefits
will
be
further
explored
with
councillor
stainforth.
V
I
would
like
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
discussion
on
this
matter
at
jgc,
in
particular,
council
stillman
and
staying
forth
and
crisp
for
their
thoughtful,
measured
and
articulate
discussion
around
the
case
for
a
remuneration
package
that
makes
public
service
an
accessible
possibility,
even
for
those
on
the
lowest
incomes.
Currently,
the
remuneration
package
is
prohibitively
low
and
it
functions
as
an
active
barrier
to
full
partition,
participation
and
representation.
V
V
The
challenges
around
accessing
these
supports
is
prohibitive
in
itself,
and
the
scope
of
the
qualifying
criteria
doesn't
even
come
close
to
covering
the
vast
array
of
obligations
and
commitments
needed
to
perform
this
role
effectively.
This
is
quite
apart
from
the
nuances
and
vulnerabilities
that
a
person
feels
when
you're
accessing
them
the
possible
threat
of
people.
Weaponizing
counsellors,
expense,
accounts,
public,
shaming
of
people
who
genuinely
need
to
claim
them
in
order
to
avoid
or
lessen
their
hardship.
V
These
are
reasons
I
have
not
claimed
expenses
that
have
put
me
into
hardship
and
it
is
intimidating,
and
that
is,
I
think,
something
that
we
need
to
consider
our
conduct
around.
That.
I
would
like
to
thank
all
of
my
colleagues
for
their
honest
and
insightful
contributions
to
this
ongoing
conversation.
W
Just
a
quickie
for
me
on
the
amendment
that
I
don't
see
the
point
in
as
waiting,
because
we've
always
done
it
at
this
meeting
and
we've
always
done
it
before
the
njc
settlement
comes
through.
So
I
don't
see
what's
different
about
this
year
to
previous
years.
We
could
just
get
this
business
agreed
and
then
it's
done.
Y
U
Thank
you
chair.
There
is
a
possibility
that
some
members
present
in
this
room
today
will
not
be
here
next
month.
I
In
light
of
the
the
enthusiasm
with
which
our
opposition
wish
to
go
on
this
motion,
then,
then
I'm
happy
to
withdraw
it
and
we
leave
the
agenda,
as
is
chairman.
A
X
Thank
you.
I
find
myself
agreeing
with
councillors
lumen
about
the
weaponizing
of
these
decisions
and
that
we
are
perceived
as
choosing
our
own
salaries
and
that
people
may
use
that
during
an
election,
which
means
I'm
very
surprised
that
councillor
gardner
is
saying
we're
avoiding
that
weaponizing
by
avoiding
the
decision
or
deferring
the
decision
until
later.
X
So
you
know
it's
either
one
or
the
other,
but
I
think
I
agree.
The
joint
independent
remuneration
panel
are
there
to
take
away
some
of
that
fear
of
the
weaponizing
because
they're
the
ones
making
the
recommendation,
and
we
are
the
ones
who
say
we
will
accept
that
or
not
gotta.
C
V
Sorry,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
the
part
that
you
were
referring
to.
I
think
the
parts
that
you're
referring
to
about
the
the
weaponizing
is
actually
the
part
that
counselor
taylor
was
talking
about
at
jgc
with
regards
to
expenses,
rather
than.
B
A
Much
then,
in
that
case
we
now
have
a
vote
by
way
of
show
of
hands
on
the
recommendations
on
page
17
of
your
agenda.
Can
all
those
in
favor
please
raise
your
hands.
A
Okay.
Moving
on
to
item
number
eight,
which
is
reported,
the
leader
on
decisions
taken
by
the
executive
you've
had
the
complete
leaders
updated
report
leader
union
members,
have
15
minutes
to
make
any
statements
on
the
decisions
and
then
there'll
be
15
minutes
for
members
to
put
questions
and
again
it
must
relate
to
one
of
the
decisions
that
are
in
the
paper.
Please,
and
if
you
could
check
that
so
leader
or
execution
members,
does
anyone
wish
to
make
any
statements?
A
A
Do
you
have
a
proposal
for
that
motion
which
will
be
councillor
parking?
The
seconder
councillor
done
council
park
and
you
have
10
minutes
to
address
the
council.
N
B
N
It
since
I
actually
wrote
this
motion,
I
mean
it's
now
to
the
state
of
horrified
by
what's
going
on
in
the
ukraine,
and
I
don't
know,
I'm
sure
president
putin
is
not
going
to
take
the
slightest
bit
of
notice.
That
we'd
be
part
of
this
resolution,
but
you
know
it
makes
me
feel
better.
I
mean,
I
know
I
think
most
of
us
are
putting
on
our
election
stuff.
So
you
know
that
we're
standing
with
the
ukraine
I'm
having
to
stop
my
son
gate
getting
on
a
plane
and
going
out
there.
N
A
Okay,
counselor
done
you
should
second
it
your
do.
You
wish
to
add
anything
to
that.
No
okay!
The
motion
is
open
to
debate
council
chris.
R
I
of
obviously
support
this
motion
in
my
place
of
work,
which
is
a
college.
We've
got
some
russian
students
and
I
just
want
to
think
about
the
use
of
the
word
russian
here,
because
those
students
are
not
the
aggressors.
So
if
anyone
feels
minded
to
change
this
to
the
putin
regime
or
the
russian
regime,
or
something
like
that
because
by
using
the
word
russian,
it
there's
plenty
of
russians
in
our
community
who
were
not
part
of
this
war,
and
I
would
like
that
to
be
considered.
L
L
J
Could
I
suggest
that
we
just
take
out
russian
and
therefore
it's
sorry
and
therefore
it's
it's
the
unprovoked
aggression
against
ukraine,
as
opposed
to
anything
else.
Thanks.
M
I
just
I
would
like
to
agree
with
council
crisp
actually
because
I
was
at
a
can,
you
believe,
a
mother
and
baby
comedy
event
on
tuesday
and
the
comedian.
I
think,
trying
to
be
funny
said
anyone
in
the
room
from
you
know,
wherever
germany,
wherever
australia,
anyone
from
russia
and
you
could
have
heard
a
pin
drop,
and
this
one
lady
said.
Yes,
I
am
russian
and
it
was
meant
to
sort
of
be
funny.
M
It
felt
very
it
felt
very
badly,
and
I
felt
I
felt
like
everyone
in
the
room,
this
mum
who
come
for
a
lighthearted,
entertainment
event
with
a
baby
will
suddenly
put
in
the
position
of
every.
There
must
have
been
a
couple
of
hundred
people
there
swiveling
around
to
look
at
her
and
he
said.
Oh,
you
know,
the
community
was
like
oh
well,
fair
play
to
you
for
claiming
that
you
are
russian
and
I
just
thought:
how
should
how
dare
make
anyone
feel
like
that?
N
I
say
germany
to
get
you.
You
know,
sorry,
oh
god,
I'm
getting
too
old
for
this
get
your
steps
in
in
so
we
get
a
unanimous
result.
Fine,
okay,.
Z
And
just
to
say
about
sorry:
it's
the
first,
it's
the
first
time
for
me
as
well.
Just
to
say
we
have
to
remember
that
there
are
people
being
persecuted
in
russia
for
standing
up
against
us
against
this
war.
So
absolutely
I
totally
agree.
A
So
we
would
we've
taken
a
friendly
amendment
in
terms
of
taking
counsel
gardner.
Y
Y
I
just
like
to
add
at
the
end
of
that
this
work
will
be
proactive
and
evaluated
now.
The
reason
why
I
suggest
that
is
that
I
think
the
words
of
this
motion
are
great,
but
many
of
us-
a
number
of
us
here
here
this
evening,
were
there
in
east
street
a
month
ago,
when
there
was
a
solidarity
event
held
fairly
spontaneously.
Y
Sadly,
we're
now
a
month
on,
and
things
have
got
much
worse
in
ukraine,
even
if
the
aggression
were
to
stop
tomorrow
and
tragically
it
won't
the
trauma.
Physical
and
mental
on
people
of
ukraine
is
going
to
be
immense,
so
this
issue
is
going
to
continue
for
quite
a
long
time
and
it's
excellent
to
say,
we'll
work
and
support
the
efforts
of
our
local
communities.
Y
We
will
support
you
if
you
wish
to
support
ukrainian
refugees,
or
indeed,
if
you
are
you,
if
you
are
a
ukrainian
or
somewhat
affected
here,
so
I
would
like
to
add
those
words.
Okay.
A
Can
you
deter,
firstly,
I'm
going
to
take
the
friendly
amendment
that
we
are
all
in
agreement?
Can
we
all
say
yes,
so
we
agree
that
take
the
russian
out
so
that
that
would
be
doubt
as
a
friendly
amendment
yeah
yeah
yeah
we
take
russia
now.
I
think
everyone
has
understood
that
that
will
be
completely
removed
in
each
part.
As
councilor
evans
has
stated,
can
you
please
you
need
to
make
a
proposal
to
amend
and
you
will
need
a
second?
So
can
you
please
read
out
the
words
you
would
like
to
add
this
work?
A
Do
I
have
a
seconder
for
that
amendment,
councillor
bain.
The
amendment
therefore
is
open
to
debate.
I
I'm
gonna
say
my
little
piece.
I'm
not
sure
I
can
support
that
purely
because
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
do
that,
whether
we
have
the
budgetary
requirements
to
do
that
and
what
level
it
is.
That's
why
I
don't
think
I
can
support
that
amendment.
I
think
the
whole
room
was
an
agreement
with
the
original
one,
but
I
I
can't
support
that
amendment.
That's
me
my
personal
say:
councillor
load.
P
My
understanding
is
that
this
work
has
already
started
and
that
mrs
favier
is
leading
this,
so
I
am
confident
that
it
will
be
proactive
and
it
is
important
that
it
will
be
evaluated,
but
I
think
that
is
going
to
happen.
I'm
not
really
sure
it
needs
to
be
further
amended.
W
I
think,
on
the
contrary,
it
needs
to
be
further
amended,
because
we
need
to
be
clear
that
we're
going
to
take
actions
and
not
just
say
words
and
in
fact
we
are
taking
actions.
So
why
aren't
we
proud
of
that
and
saying
that
very
clearly
in
this
motion
just
to
come
back
to
your
point
chair?
It's
not
a
resource
issue
per
se.
This,
to
my
mind,
people
coming
and
settling
become
part
of
the
community.
W
There's
no
there's
not
any
real
additional
resource
from
the
local
authority,
and
that
would
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
most
of
what
we'll
do
is
provide
well-being
in
the
same
way
as
we
will
with
other
members
of
the
public.
Thank
you.
A
A
The
right
I
can
speak
again,
that's
really
I'm
gonna
you.
I
think.
That's
the
reason
it
you
you're,
stating
that
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
monitor
something,
and
we
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
monitor
that
and
if
that's
gonna
require
resources,
we're
gonna
have
to
look
into
whether
those
resources
are
there.
That's
why
I
can't
anyway,
I've
said
my
piece.
Sorry,
I
had
a
hand
raise
yeah
council,
boreham.
Sorry.
AA
Thank
you
very
much
chairman.
I
won't
be
supporting
amendment,
it
does
say
we
will
work
and
support.
AA
That
is
a
positive
statement
to
me,
and
I
know
the
officers
are
already
working
extremely
closely
working
very
closely,
particularly
with
west
sussex
county
council
dealing
with
some
really
really
complex
issues
like
the
traumatized
families
coming
over
making
sure
they
get
the
support
they
require,
making
sure
the
schools
can
cope
with
the
children,
making
sure
the
families
can
look
after
these
traumatized
people
safely,
all
the
various
different
checks,
all
those
sort
of
things
that
there
is
a
mountain
of
work,
going
on
behind
the
scenes
to
make
sure
that
that
the
people
who
are
currently,
I
think,
are
just
living
in
hell
come
over
here
and
we
can
look
after
them
as
best
we
can.
A
Y
Al,
although
I
do
feel
it
basically
perverse
to
oppose
a
an
amendment
on
the
basis
of
of
the
fact
that
you
agree
with
it,
what
I
will
do,
I'm
happy
to
withdraw
it.
Having
received
assurances
that
this
that
the
process
will
be
followed,
okay,.
A
So
you're
withdrawing
the
the
amendment.
Okay,
then
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
original
motion
with
the
friendly
amendment
that
we're
in
agreement
with
can
all
those
in
favor
please
raise
your
hands,
and
that
is
unanimous,
so
is
carried
and
that
all
that
leaves
me
to
do
folks
is
at
seven
minutes
past
nine
declare
this
meeting
close
best
of
luck.