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From YouTube: Inter Protocol Community Call #2
Description
Dean Tribble and Zaki Manian joined us this month to discuss Inter Protocol, IST, and other Cøsmos related topics.
00:00 — Introduction
inter.trade website (https://inter.trade)
Crytpcito Podcast (https://youtu.be/zjXMqmQ5KiU)
02:54 – Nebular Paris Recap
Mechanics of Inter Protocol (https://youtu.be/0bd9zsNXDpY)
05:50 — MEV conversation in Cøsmos
12:16 — Inter Protocol Engineering Update
14:25 — Oracle Networks
18:02 — Asset choice as collateral with IST
20:51 — HackATOM and BUIDL Asia
A
Actually,
actually,
I
well
I'll
start
I'll
start
with
something
that
that
it's
kind
of
very
recent,
so
we
actually
finally
have
the.
I
would
call
it
like-
maybe
the
v2
of
the
website,
much
prettier
branded,
that's
that
inter
dot
trade,
so
you
can
finally
see
much
higher
level
presentation
within
the
protocol
goes
through.
You
know,
explain
explains
what
we're
about
has
a
bunch
of
good
links.
A
Finally,
the
brand
has
come
together
for
this,
so
really
awesome
work
by
the
design
native
team,
who,
who
does
a
lot
of
other
brand
brand
work
in
the
I
think,
both
the
cosmos
and
the
wider
crypto
industry,
so
they
yeah,
they
did
some
really
cool
stuff
there
and
yeah
we'll
be
updating
that
as
we
go
with
more
stuff.
B
A
Yeah
yeah
now
they
do,
they
do
really
cool
work
and
it's
it's
like
it's
just
nice
to
see
this
thing
come
alive.
Oh
that's,
great
yeah!
So,
actually
on
that
too,
so
the
the
again
the
site's
now
you
know
more
officially
live
at
hinder.trade
yeah
we're
working
on
on
the
newsletter
should
be
coming
soon.
It's
gonna
give
a
lot
of
like
a
lot
of
updates.
Obviously
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
ist
and
protocol
in
general
are
focused
on.
I
know
we
have
a
git
book,
that's
also
incoming.
A
I
don't
think
I
have
a
date
for
that
yet,
but
that's
in
the
works
that
should
be
on
the
site
as
well
and
the
other.
The
other
up
should
be
the
other
channels,
the
youtube
channel.
We
want
to
start
getting
all
the
videos
and
all
the
great
things
that
zucky
and
dean
you
both
are
running
around
talking
about
it
and
some
other
people
out
there
I'll
just
say:
yeah
yeah,
there's
a
whole
group
of
people
that
you
know
in
content
that
we
just
got
to
get
somewhere.
A
So
we
should
have
that
all
very
soon,
so
that's
kind
of
all
related
to
that
yeah.
The
other
thing
I
was
gonna
say
quickly.
I
know
there's
a
video
floating
around
for
the
cryptocedo.
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know
if
he's
on
this
call,
but
I
know
you-
and
you
were
both
probably
was
that
last
week
I
asked
both
on
the
on
the
tuesday
podcast
talking
a
lot
about.
You
know
going
on
with
the
gore
put
the
chord
within
a
protocol,
and
obviously
cosmo
verse
was
a
big
topic.
A
Was
that
since
that
group
is
really,
you
know,
dry
down,
so
yeah
well,
we'll
we'll
make
sure
to
re-share
that,
but
that's
a
really
good
good
good
overview
of
what's
happening
too.
Do
we
have
you
asaki.
B
Because
we
don't
hear
about
the
nebula.
A
A
A
C
C
C
The
talk
is:
is
online
they're
cutting
up
the
nebular
like
talks
into
like
you
know
where
you
can
like
get
a
specific
talk
right
now,
there's
just
like
the
live
stream,
just
like
the
whole
day's
stream
february
was
really
cool
like
the
and
like
hcc
in
general,
was
like
the
whole
paris
week
was
right,
like
really
good,
like
you
know,
huge
huge
concentration
of
all
the
blockchain
people
there.
How
many.
C
C
So
if
there's
like
one
thing
that
we
probably
should
learn
or
like
that
could
have
been
done
better
at
nebu
or
it
was
like,
you
know,
accept
more
people
for
tickets
and
like
because
there
was
like
plenty
of
also
overflow
space
in
the
venue
like
out
into
the
courtyards
et
cetera.
So
it
was
like
only
a
hundred-ish
people.
C
Yeah
I
mean
the
it
was
the
it
was.
The
vow
like
it
was
there's
a
lot
of
surprisingly
there's
like
a
lot
of
validators
in
paris.
I
don't
know
why,
like
there's
a
lot
of
local
french
there's
like
a
strong
local,
french
validator
community,
and
so
there
were
a
lot
of
people
like
that.
There
were
like
all
of
the
people
who,
like
you
know,
then
there's
you
know
this:
the
the
standard
cohort
of
cosmos,
validators
and
zone
builders
and
smart
contract
builders
that
we
see
everywhere
it
it.
C
You
know
it
was
just
like
a
really
solid
cosmos
event.
It
was
the
the
sort
of
I
would
say
most
like
conversation.
There
were
a
lot
of
presentations
that
were
very
interesting
and,
as
always
like
a
good
hallway
track.
A
C
I'm
still,
I
think
I
tried
to
really
explain
to
people
why
the
arbitrage
mechanism.
Well,
I
mean,
I
would
say
the
most
important
thing
that
was
happening
at
nebula
right-
is
that,
like
the
mev
conversation
in
cosmos
is
really
heating
up
and
you
know
on
one
hand
osmosis
is
taking
you
know,
osmosis
has
like
sort
of
tony
came
out
with
a
very
aggressive
anti-mev
sort
of
set
of
talking
points
at
nebula.
C
That
he's
like
been
walking
back
a
little
bit
but
like
from
our
point
of
view
at
on
ist,
like
we're,
really
excited
about
engaging
with
all
of
the
med
teams,
because
we
think
that
this
is
actually
going
to
improve
stability
and
sustainability
of
the
protocol,
and
I
think
that's
but
like
the
meb
conversation
in
cosmos
is
just
so
like
the
whole
med
conversation
just
like
summarized
for
the
people
who
aren't
who
are
playing
this
inside
baseball,
which
might
be
helpful
okay,
so
the
concept
of
meb
is
that
there
is
value
to
be
extracted
by
choosing
order
of
the
transactions.
C
So
you
know
in
the
ist
context,
it's
like
you
know.
The
atom
price
is
falling
for.
You
know,
as
as
it
does
in
crypto
market
volatility,
and
there
is
now
people
who
are
trying
to
bridge
in
ist
to
repay
their
their
debt
on
their
vaults
or
like
repay
their
vaults
and
reduce
their
liquidation
threshold
they're
people
who
are
trying
to
add
atoms
to
their
vaults.
There
are
people
who
are
trying
to.
C
There
are
people
who
are
trying
to
bridge
ist
to
to
arb
the
amm
pool
as
liquidations
are
occurring
and
buy
those
discounted
atoms,
and
so
all
of
this
stuff
is
happening
simultaneously
and
you
you
can
think
about
it.
Okay,
well
as
a
as
about
as
a
as
the
block
proposer
on
any
given
block,
you
have
all
these
different
competing
demands
for
block
space,
and
you
know,
if
you
you
know
you
can
you
know
if
there
are
cheap
atoms,
you
can
choose
to
do
that.
C
You
can
choose
to.
You
know,
accept
someone
bribing
you
to
making
sure
that
they're,
you
know
to
ensure
that
there
is
that
their
transaction
that
shores
up
their
vault
gets
in.
C
You
know
all
those
different
things:
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
competition
for
block
space
and
we
think,
having
like
a
robust
marketplace,
which
really
is
not
something
that
tendermint
offers
out
of
the
box
and
that
these,
like
protocols
like
skip
and
megatech,
are
building,
will
make
things
a
lot
actually
better,
whereas
on,
if
you're,
primarily
a
dex
like
osmosis.
C
What
you're
worried
about
is
that
like,
if
a
marketplace
for
this
transaction
ordering
starts
like
you're
gonna
get
produced
like
worse
prices
and
you're
gonna
extract
value
from
trades
from
users
and
like
there's
sort
of
an
arms
race
on
the
depth
side,
and
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
in
general
about
how,
on
the
full
agora
platform,
med
mitigation
is
going
to
work.
C
But
we
have,
we
think
that
there's
like
this,
this
huge
and
in
general
like
that,
was
a
big
just
like
you
know,
in
general,
like
for
cosmos,
I
think
we've,
you
know
the
mev
conversation
has
been
fully
centered
on
ethereum
for
most
of
the
last
two
years,
with
things
like
flashbacks
and
now,
you're
really
starting
to
see
it
sort
of
becoming
a
big
part
of
the
conversation
about
cosmos.
B
Yeah,
the
the
you
know,
I
was
very
much
assuming
that
meb
would
was,
was
bad,
but
when
you
actually
go
digging
in
a
it's,
partly
unavoidable
b,
it's
something
you
can
optimize
and
add
value
with,
and
you
know
and
and
it's
a
matter
of
of
you
know
things
that
people
want
to
do-
that
you
push
off
into
a
corner
they're,
going
to
find
a
way
to
do
it,
surfacing
it
and
and
and
really
getting
it
to
be,
something
that
can
be
reasoned
about
and
you
can
build
smart
contracts
that
can
management
and
that
management
manage
it
and
that
sort
of
thing
can
actually
add
some
real
value.
B
So
so
that
was
an
eye
opener
when,
when
I
think
it
was
sean
from
mechatech
was,
was
walking
through
some
of
those
scenarios.
It's
like
okay,
clearly,
that's
going
to
be
an
interesting
discussion
and
something
that
will
indeed
evolve
over
time
and
one
of
the
reasons
that,
as
you
noted
elsewhere,
why
we
really
want
extensibility
is
to
be
able
to
have
to
be
able
to
have
that
evolution
happen
in
a
healthy
way.
So
yeah.
B
B
A
B
B
About
the
the
the
the
the
md
conversation,
you
know
like
liquidation
conversations,
it
gets
into
sort
of
deep,
important,
critical
economic
design
flow
design,
stuff
that
needs
to
be
tested
and
measured
and
stuff.
That
has
you
know
competing
interests
and
what
you
want
is
a
framework
so
that
they
can,
you
know,
rationally
cooperate
where
that
makes
sense,
and
so-
and
so
that's
something
that
we've
done.
B
You
know
lots
of
analysis
in
various
parts
of
the
you
know
what
you
need
in
a
stable
coin
infrastructure-
and
these
are
these-
are
the
areas
where
people
end
up
going
as
deep
as
they'd
like
once
that,
once
they
get
into
the
implementation
and
and
the
evolution
of
ist,
that's
an
area
where
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
deep
thinkers
already
thinking
there
that
are
worth
talking
to
so.
B
It
happens
over
time.
I
mean
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversation.
You
know
talking
about
liquidation,
you
know,
we've
walked
through
a
bunch
of
nation
processes
in
various
presentations
and
we'll
you
know,
zucky
did
it
in
in
in
the
nebular
conference
and
we'll
go.
You
know
and
we'll
probably
have
even
deeper
conversations
about
how
it
currently
works
and
what
are
some
of
the
future
pathway
pathways
that
we
will
all
you
know,
model
and
explore,
and
but
that's
not
before
launch
all
those
extensions.
B
You
know
the
goal
is
roll
out
with
you
know
something
that
is
that
is,
you
know
robust.
You
know
it's
a
minimum
viable
product,
it's
both
viable
and
minimum
right
and
and
then
with
an
extensibility,
so
that
it's
easy
to
add
and
evolve
those
over
time
as
the
market
changes
as
more
economy
is
available
on.
You
know
on
chain
all
those
kinds
of
things.
A
A
A
A
B
Good
so
other
elements
of
the
technology
right,
so
we
we
repeat
that
we
proceed
to
pace
on
the
implementation.
Four
contracts
are
all
you
know,
working
they've
been
they've
gone
through
security
audits
and
they
are
now
in
the
economic
stress
test
that
is,
you
know,
doing
various
liquidation
scenarios
and
and
and
so
forth,
but
there
are
remaining
platform
issues
or
platform
features
that
we're
finishing,
some
of
which
then
get
folded
into
those
contracts.
B
So,
for
example,
we're
we
we're
we're
in
the
process
of
migrating
to
much
much
more
higher
efficiency
notification
to
off-chain
sources.
Like
your
applications
about
what's
happening
to
vaults-
and
that's
that's
both
you
know,
will
support
you
know:
fancier
and
fancier
economic
stress,
testing
it'll
support
the
data
that
it
supports
the
data
that
gauntlet
needs
to
be
able
to
run.
B
You
know,
weekly
models
to
provide
governance,
parameter
recommendations
to
to
you
know,
sort
of
you
know
best
balance
over
collateralization
races
and
capital
requirements
while
ensuring
solvency-
and
so
those
are
all
about.
You
know
the
data
pathway
out
of
the
chain
and
which
things
need
to
be
notified
and
and
that
sort
of
stuff
and
that's
just
kind
of
the
finishing
engineering
work
that
always
takes
longer
than
you
think,
but
it's
critical
to
the
kinds
of
robust
systems
that
a
lot
of
us
have
built
in
the
past.
B
You
know
telemetry
wherefore.
If
there's
an
issue,
you
can
actually
measure
what
happened
in
production
instead
of
having
to
go
and
reproduce
it
into
a
network
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
that's
a
lot
of
the
work
that
is
happening
on
the
on
the
inter
protocol.
Oh
and
one
more
thing
is
making
sure
that
that
all
the
data
that's
necessary
to
be
able
to
upgrade
these
these
contracts
as
they
evolve.
You
know
some
parts
are
pluggable,
some
parts.
B
You
know
we
we
have
locked
down
in
particular
ways
but
may
want
to
evolve
in
the
future
and
those
will
happen
by
contract,
upgrade
voted
by
governance
and
so
all
of
those
mechanisms.
You
know
those
are
sort
of
the
last
elements
to
to
integrate
in
and
verify
and
test,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
that
engineering
is
all
underway.
Still,
you
know
targeting
you
know
getting
all
this
stuff
done
in
q3,
for
people
to
be
able
to
to
to
actually
start
using
it
on
the
entertainment.
A
B
You
have
anything
there
I
can
jump
in,
he
might
yeah
sure
so
so
the
the
so
burke
has
an
oracle
network,
or
rather
you
know
the
ecosystem.
Has
an
oracle
network,
that's
being
worked
on
simply
staking
one
of
our
validators.
B
You
know
took
the
lead
on
driving
that
they're
also
a
chain
link,
node
operator
and
they've
been
building
out
the
software
to
be
able
to
do
chain
link
style
architecture
that
runs
in
the
igor
ecosystem,
and
so
there
is
a
you
know:
aggregation
contract
in
javascript
that
runs
on
chain
that
aggregates
the
assertions
from
a
set
of
independent
oracles
and-
and
you
know
those
people
who
have
those
those
validators
that
have
experience
being
oracle
node
operators
they've
got
the
expertise
to
pull
that
together.
B
They're
doing
that,
all
independent
of
you
know
the
opco,
I
mean
we,
it's
a
smart
contract
being
built
on
the
platform.
We
help
them
with
those
those
parts
of
the
the
the
work.
But
it's
just
awesome
to
see.
That
kind
of
you
know
community
development
providing
a
key
element
of
this
ecosystem
architecture,
and
you
know
those
are.
Those
are
all
validators
that
people
across
the
cosmos
ecosystem
are
familiar
with,
and
so
so
that's
coming
together.
You
know
it
operates.
B
You
know
we,
we
did
load
testing,
we
have
things
we
want
to
that,
need
to
be
improved
in
the
in
the
pathways
coming
in
and
so
we're
we're
working
on
on
providing
the
interfaces.
They
need
to
be
able
to
lower
the
load
of
providing
oracle
information
into
the
chain,
but
everything's
architected
to
be
able
to
have
plugable
oracles,
of
which
they
will
be
providing
sort
of
this
core
oracle
infrastructure.
Inspired
and
supported
by
how
chain
link
approaches
things.
B
But
you
know
I,
I
love
a
characterization
that
sergey
of
chain
link
had
a
long
time
ago,
which
is
you
know
we
want
to
launch
d5,
legos
and
nfc
legos,
and
that
sort
of
thing
in
an
information
rich
world
and
so
to
us.
You
know,
prices
and
other
kinds
of
information
from
from
from
oracle's
are
just
another
d5
lego
right,
they're,
an
information
lego
you
can
plug
into
whatever
your
applications
are.
B
In
this
case,
you
know,
as
with
many
of
these
things,
ist
is
the
first
consumer
of
those
of
those
components.
They're
quite
pluggable,
they're
extensible
it'll
be
easy
to
add
new
kinds
of
oracle
providers.
You
know,
as
as
the
community
or
other
folks
on
the
interchange
in
the
providing
you
know
across
ibc
oracle
services.
B
So
I'm
very
excited
about
that,
and
it's
also
just
really
nice
to
have
people
that
are
really
experienced
with
this
building
up
something
with
comparable
robustness
and
quality
to
be
able
to
integrate
in
and
and
make
available
first
in
a
gorick
and
then
presumably
someone
will
be
able
to
bring
it
out
over
ibc
to
the
rest
of
the
to
the
interchange.
B
So
so
that's
something
I
look
forward
to,
but
but
not
you
know
the
focus
there
is,
let's
get
it
working
for
enter
and
then
and
then
you
know
and
then
we'll
see
how
the
opportunity
goes
from
there,
or
rather
they
will
see
how
the
opportunity
grows
from
there
we're
just
helping.
B
C
A
C
B
Welcome
back,
okay,
I'm
just
gonna,
say
yeah
anything
else.
We
want
to
cover
on
tech,
any
questions
we
got.
You.
A
One
question
that
came
in
was
was,
and
we've
kind
of
brought
this
up
before,
but
it's
probably
worth
bringing
up
it's
you
know
how
do
I
get
my
asset
of
choice
as
a
collateral
with
ist?
You
know,
how
do
I
bring
something
I
want
or
that
a
you
know,
a
community
sentiment
wants
over
to
ist.
B
Well,
there'll
be
so
you
know
I
can
opine
on
that,
but
I
won't
be
the
one
that
determines
that
you
know
the
governance
is,
is
twofold:
it's
it's
the
dow.
You
know
the
the
builder
now
the
governance
of
the
chain.
The
token
holders
will
vote
at
the
end
of
the
day.
For
you
know,
key
critical
things
like
what
assets
are
are
allowed
as
collateral,
and
they
will
also
approve
an
econ
committee,
an
economic
committee
that
has
the
the
the
job
of
doing
sort
of
the
day-to-day
economic.
B
You
know
if
you
will
bank
you
know
currency
management
as
it
were.
You
know
they.
They
will
be
the
ones
that
look
at
the
recommendations
out
of
systems
like
gauntlet
and
say
yep
that
looks
reasonable.
Let's
roll
those
into
the
system,
they've
done,
the
modeling
they've
got
they've
done
the
analysis
that
looks
good
and
so
as
new
collateral
types
come
in,
they
will
have
to.
You
know,
have
a
model
of
what's
their
volatility,
what's
the
risk
and
that
drives
what's
the
required
collateralization
ratio?
B
What's
the
required
capital
to
provide
a
shortfall
reserve
as
part
of
the
reserve
and
and
those
are
all
sort
of
critical
elements
of
collateral
for
a
stable
token
is
not
that
it
not
be
volatile,
because
you
know
I
mean
just
like
house:
prices
are
volatile
and
they're
yet
they're
the
collateral
for
a
lot
of
the
us
dollars
in
the
world.
B
You
know
lots
of
the
the
crypto
assets
are
volatile,
but
they
have
value
and
they
can
they
can
provide
collateral,
but
you
need
a
model
of
it
and
you
need
to
make
sure
that
the
governance
parameters
around
it
in
terms
of
liquidation
ratios
and
that
sort
of
thing
you
know
are
correctly
fit
and
the
debt
limit
correctly
fit
those
collateral
types.
And
so
that's
not.
You
know
so
there'll
be
a
process
that
the
econ
committee
will
propose.
B
You
know,
presumably
the
builder
dao
will
review
and
approve
and
then
that'll
be
the
process
that
new
collateral
types
have
to
go
through.
You
know
this.
This
is
inspired
by
I
mean
you
know,
maker,
dao
and
others
have
evolved.
Processes
like
this
and
they're,
currently
kind
of
the
the
the
standard,
the
bar
that
you
should
get
over
in
terms
of
discipline
around
risk
management
to
make
sure
that
that
ist
is
a
solid.
You
know
solvent
token.
B
A
Oh,
that's
a
great
answer.
Thank
you.
That's
awesome.
A
little
birdie
told
me
you
might
be
in
in
korea.
B
B
But
but
you
already,
you
already
had
you're
you
you're
still
on
jet
lag.
You
were
probably
already
awake
right.
Is
that
true.
C
Well,
I
I
feel,
like
everyone
in
korea
seems
like
I
was
like
it
was
like
three
a.m
and
I
was
like
messaging
and,
like
everyone
else
in
blockchain
in
korea
was
also
awake,
so
I
don't
know.
Maybe
this
is
just
like
how
great
it
was.
I
haven't
figured
this
out
yet
like
what
is
what
are
the
waking
hours
in
korea.
B
Yes,
yes,
a
few
people
have
asked
me
so
I'm
getting
on
a
plane
tomorrow
and
I
will
be
there
on
the
28th
and
I
will
join
you.
A
few
people
ask
me
to
schedule
meetings
like
I
have
no
idea
what
time
will
be
like
there
from
both
a
jet
lag
and
schedule
rotation
and,
of
course
you
know
crazy
insane
number
of
events,
but
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
it.
So.
B
Yes,
I
will
be
presenting
some
of
the
things
that
are.
You
know
that
zucky
talked
about
in
nebula.
I
will
we
will
cover
them
some
more
with
a
with
a
you
know,
different
and
other
audience
focusing
on.
You
know
on
how
they
could
how
to
be
able
to
use
it
going
forward
for,
for
you
know,
entertain
ecosystem
stuff.
A
Awesome
awesome
yeah.
If
there's
anything
else
either
you
want
to
bring
up
if
not.
A
Which
one
sweet?
Okay,
perfect
cool,
all
right!
Well,
thank
you
both!
So
much
and
again,
actually
yeah.
Let
me
emphasize
the
site
if
you
haven't
checked
out
intro.trade
totally
revamped,
it's
alive
now
and
yeah
we'll
be
getting
more
stuff
up
there.
So
definitely
make
sure
to
check
that
out.
Yes,.
B
It's
very
slick,
it's
very
nice.
It's
got
some
of
the
key
documents
here,
but
we
know
that
we're
all
going
to
continue
to
add
data,
or
you
know,
content
and
technology.
You
know,
there's
there's
folks,
like
you
know:
jason
potts,
working
on
the
econ
committee
proposal
to
present
to
the
chain
and-
and
you
know
for
in
terms
of
what
its
job
will
be
and
what
you
know
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
so
so
this
stuff
should
start.