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A
It's
gonna
be
a
bit
shorter,
we'll
see,
let's
see,
let's
kick
it
off
so
Yusuf,
maybe
let's
jump
into
it.
So
maybe
we
can
talk,
die
yeah.
B
Yeah,
that's
it
that's
a
good
one,
so
we're
quite
satisfied
with
the
addition
of
diet
to
to
the
PSM.
B
You
know,
I
see
it
as
a
significant
Milestone
towards
the
the
decentralization
of
IST
as
an
asset,
but
also
IT
addresses
the
the
thought
I've
seen
on
sometimes
on
social
media,
where
I
see
was
sometimes
described
as
a
as
a
proxy
for
a
centralized,
stable
coins
like
like
tether
and
and
circle.
So
sorry.
C
Yeah
sorry
can
just
have
to
interrupt
just
a
sec,
perhaps
for
some
of
the
people
on
the
call
they're
not
aware
of
what
role
you
serve
and
how
you're
engaged
within
a
protocol.
Perhaps
we
start
with
that
and
then
continue
yeah.
B
Sure
so,
umrani
I'm,
an
elected
member
of
the
economic
Committee
in
charge
of
of
IST.
So
we're
our
like
main
responsibility,
is
to
manage
the
the
different
parameters,
mainly
economics
in
terms
of
of
growing
IST.
Maintaining
the
the
stability
whitelisting
new
assets,
playing
with
the
minting
limits
with
the
safety
and
the
and
responsible
growth
in
mind.
B
Yeah,
so
I
was
saying
we're
very
happy
with
the
with
the
addition
of
die
and
and
we've
been
able
to
to
address
the
the
the
uninformed
fund.
I've
been
seeing
on
on
social
media
and,
to
be
honest,
I
see
decentralization
as
as
a
marathon,
not
not
a
Sprint,
and
it
needs
to
be
done
in
a
in
a
gradual,
responsible
Manner
and
that's
exactly
what
what
we've
been
doing
and
we've.
Also
with
the
addition
of
die.
B
We've
proceeded
with
the
a
global
rebalancing
of
dominating
limits
of
all
the
assets
in
the
in
the
PSM,
so
I.
We
think
that
the
timing
was
right
for
this,
with
the
with
the
the
white
listing
of
of
Thai
and
also
the
the
ongoing
concerns
around
usdt
in
the
midst
of
the
despair
markets.
B
So
there
was
a
consensus
from
the
the
EC
around
two
things
we
wanted
to
give
enough
room
to
die
so
right
now
we
have
I
think
32
percent
of
the
total
minting
limit
that
is
assigned
to
this
to
this
asset,
and
we
also
wanted
to
reduce
our
exposure
to
a
usdt.
So
now
I
think
we're
at
eight
percent
of
the
total
minting
limit.
B
So
far
as
USC
like
we
didn't
see
like
an
important
collect
concern,
but
we
we
had
to
to
address
the
the
concerns
of
the
of
the
community,
and
you
know
most
generally
the
the
the
the
Public's
sentiment.
So
that's
that's
pretty
much
it.
Regarding
the
three
balancing
of
meeting
limits.
A
Okay,
awesome
awesome,
I
think
that
that
answers
a
lot
of
the
questions
I
had
about
it
and
so
I
there.
Actually
there
was
a
community
question,
which
was
you
know
if
you
go
to
analytics.inter.trade,
you
know,
you'll
see
the
you
know
the
assets
that
commit
IST
right
now
and
someone
had
you
know,
asked
you
know
what
does
it
actually
mean
to
have
90
97
of
minted
IST
on
the
interchain
I
thought?
That
was
maybe
a
good
question
for
you.
Yusuf.
B
Yeah,
so
I
I
think
it
just
means
that
there
are
enough
use
cases
as
of
today
for
IST
to
stay
within
the
ancient
change.
So
you
know
there
are
a
few
LP
pools
on
on
osmosis
and
on
Crescent
that
give
that
needed
security
to
to
IST
and
I've
also
seen
that
IC
was
just
added
in
in
a
few
stable
pools
on
on
osmosis.
They
just
launched
on
Frontier
osmosis
the
stable
swap
feature
so
so
this
number
of
97
is
not
surprising
to
me.
A
Got
it
got
it
perfect
cool,
so
are
there
any
other
updates
around
anything
that
the
economic
committee
is
doing
that
you
want
to
touch
on
or
should
we
should?
We
keep
going
no.
B
I
I
would
like
to
give
a
last
update,
update
on
where
we
are
right.
Now
is
it's
quite
a
busy
moment
for
for
the
coming
committee,
as
as
we
prepare
for
two
major
Milestones
that
are
the
the
launch
of
native
usdc
and
also
vaults,
and
you
know
they
should
be
coming
pretty
much
at
the
same
time
within
a
month.
Maybe
of
of
difference.
B
So
the
launch
of
native
USD
on
Cosmos
in
early
2023
is
I.
Think
it's
a
very
good
news
for
for
us.
As
you
know,
it's
gonna
dilute
the
considerably
dilute
the
the
bridge
risk,
so
we're
currently
having
talks
within
the
EC
to
discuss
the
the
future
of
bridged
assets
within
IC
collateral,
and
also
we
have
vaults
that
are
coming
as
well
and
so
for
for
votes.
B
We're
working
on
two
things
in
in
collaboration
with
the
agoric
opco
and
Roland,
which
is
first
a
process
for
onboarding
new
Vault
collateral,
and
also
what
kind
of
Vault
information
should
figure
on
the
the
analytics
dashboard
for
proper
monitoring
by
by
the
economic
committee.
So
as
of
today,
there
is
a
prayer
limited
list
of
those
requirements
that
was
prepared
by
Chris,
Burke
and
Jason.
Potts
were
also
members
of
the
of
the
economy
committee,
and
we
will
discuss
that
in
a
few.
C
If
you
visit
the
agoric
discourse,
which
is
community.ugoric.com,
there's
a
section
inside
of
the
agoric
discourse
right
now
for
inter-protocol,
and
that's
where
we're
having
a
number
of
the
discussions
about
you
know
certain
aspects
of
things
within
the
ecosystem
and
I
wanted
to
flag
two
things
there
for
the
people
on
this
call.
One
of
them
is
a
post
called
economic
committee
budget
proposal.
Obviously
the
economic
committee
needs
to
be
compensated.
C
They
need
to
have
a
working
budget
and
a
proposal
has
been
put
forth
for
that
funding
to
come
from
DCF
dcf's
happy
to
do
that.
But
we
want
the
community
to
to
say
this
is
the
right
thing:
there's
a
discussion
going
on
right
now
about
whether
this
needs
to
go
forward
and
actually
be
a
signaling
proposal
or
whether
we
can
just
go
ahead
and
go
forward
and
do
it
since
DCF
is
willing
to
do
so,
at
least
for
the
first
year
to
sort
of
bootstrap
things
get
this
going.
C
You
know,
we
view
the
economic
committee
as
a
public
good.
In
short
and
that's
what
DCF
does
is
support
public
goods
I
flag
it
for
everybody
on
this
call,
because
if
you
agree,
please
jump
in
and
say
so.
If
you
disagree
and
say
no,
this
needs
to
go
to
a
signaling
proposal
and
a
community
vote.
Please
say
something:
otherwise
we're
probably
just
going
to
move
on
and
follow
a
path
of
least
resistance
and
get
it
done.
C
A
No
that's
great
I,
actually
on
the
topic
of
vaults
and
liquidations,
I
I
I
think
we.
D
Yeah,
what
what
a
great
segue
Rick?
That
was
my
first
few
bullets
here,
so
hey
everybody
rolling
here
and
I
guess
just
to
follow
on
with
what
Rick
said
earlier
this
morning,
I
posted
a
write-up
of
the
the
current
plan
for
liquidations
for
the
vaults
contracts
that
would
be
launching,
with
V1
of
the
vault's
release
and,
and
so
as
Rick
mentioned.
You
know
please
dive
in
there.
D
It
also
links
to
a
GitHub
issue
where
it's
been
written
up
sort
of
more
extensively
by
one
of
the
gorkopco's
Engineers
on
the
contracts
team.
The
the
tldr
of
of
the
liquidations
is
a
Dutch
auction
mechanism
that
is
sort
of
robust
battle
tested.
You
know
via
maker
Dao
and
the
the
real
goal
of
it
was
to
make
sure
that
vaults
can
release
much
sooner.
D
So
those
of
you
that
were
aware
of
the
the
sort
of
original
originally
communicated
plans
for
liquidation,
it
required
an
amm
and
while
having
a
local
market
on
Diego
Arcane
is
still
a
critical
goal.
It
doesn't
actually
need
to
happen
prior
to
false
release,
and
we
know
how
eager
Vault
everyone
in
the
community
is
for
vaults
to
launch.
D
So
we
really
wanted
to
find
a
good,
robust
mechanism
that
would
allow
us
to
get
to
get
to
Market,
faster
and
so
with
consultation
with
our
MIT
advisors
and
with
the
econ
committee,
which
you
know,
Yusuf
is
a
big
part
of
we
sort
of
settled
on
that
on
that
Dutch
oxygen
design,
which
again
has
has
worked
so
well
for
maker,
so
yeah,
please,
please
hop
in
there
comment
on
that.
You
know.
D
Work
on
that
is
is
ongoing,
as
as
many
of
you
know,
the
liquidations
part
of
the
vaults
contract
system
is
upgradable.
It's
a
separate
contract,
and
so
we
fully
expect
that
to
expand,
evolve
and
and
get
more
interesting
over
time
as
it
allows
for
cross-chain
kind
of
things,
and
we
have
some
pretty
cool
ideas
in
our
in
our
back
pocket
that
we
hope
to
get
to
work
on
after
the
V1
release.
So
yeah,
please
dive
in
there
and
comment
and
we're
excited
for
for
that
direction.
D
I
also
wanted
to
comment
on
a
few
other
elements
of
the
vault's
progress,
so
we
we've
gone
through
a
large
design
process
on
the
product
and
Engineering
side,
and
that
has
sort
of
resulted
in
you
know
a
long
long
series
of
user
stories
and
makes
making
sure
that
we're
organized
for
all
the
work
that
needs
to
get
done.
A
lot
of
of
that
code
actually
is
already
written.
So
from
our
side,
there
really
are
just
a
few
few
modifications.
D
We
need
a
liquidation
contract
and
then
getting
the
vaults
to
work
with
our
smart
wallet,
which
that
was
an
addition
that
happened
there's
basically
just
some
technical
things.
We
need
to
do
to
make
sure
that
those
things
work
together
and-
and
so
that's
really
our
core
goal
right
now
and
actually
I
think
I
think
we
expect
an
internal
demo
of
of
vaults
working
with
a
smart
wallet
by
early
next
week,
so
still
moving
very
forward
quickly
on
that,
then
we
also
are
building
a
new
front
end
for
vaults.
D
So
those
of
you
that
have
used
the
beta
that
we
had
launched
the
the
front
end
for
vaults
had
not.
You
know
that
beta
was
launched
two
years
ago
almost
and
we
hadn't
spent
time.
You
know
making
that
front
end
fresher
more
fun,
more
sort
of
defy
appropriate,
and-
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
is,
is
really
sending
a
good
signal
to
the
market,
and
so
we
actually
just
had
a
kickoff
call
with
the
design
team.
D
Today
that
had
already
done
some
work
around
the
front
end,
but
will
sort
of
update
it
for
new
designs
and
we're
working.
You
know
there
there
will
be
sort
of
a
front-end
code
available
that
can
get
run
by
the
community
and
and
made
sure
that
it's
it's
sort
of
available
to
to
others
to
work
with.
So
that's
another
big
piece
and
as
Yusuf
mentioned,
the
econ
committee
is
also
really
working
hard
on
not
only
their
their
needs
from
risk
perspective.
So
how
do
we
onboard
new
collaterals?
What's
the
the
process
for
that?
D
Rather,
how
does
interpretical
onboard
new
collaterals,
but
also
their
needs
from
a
data
reporting
standpoint,
so
they
have
been
an
important
stakeholder
from
the
pro
in
the
product
process
to
make
sure
that
we
know
what
data
needs
to
get
reported
out
of
the
system
so
that
they
can
do
their
job
effectively
and
so
they're
actually
providing
their
feedback.
Today.
On
that,
so
that's
been
really
great,
really
appreciate
there.
There
have
been
being
so
diligent
on
that
and
then
I
I
guess.
D
One
other
thing
I
saw
Yusuf
actually
had
had
made
a
post
on,
should
liquid
staking
collateral,
be
part
of
a
an
over
collateralized
stable
token,
which
is
a
really
interesting
question.
I
saw
that
that
poll
happened.
D
I
actually
don't
know
how
the
poll
ended
up
Yusuf,
but
there
are
some
questions
on
on
the
technical
side
that
agorkopco
is
interested
in
so,
for
example,
if
the
community
did
want
to
do
that,
then
the
Vault
system
would
need
to
be
able
to
really
understand
what
the
price
of
that
liquid
staking
collateral
is
and
there's
a
few
approaches
to
that
and
trade-offs
between
them.
And
so
that's
something
that
we
put
some
initial
thought
into
and
we'll
we'll
start.
D
You
know
we
want
to
make
sure
that
vaults
release
is
ready
to
go
first,
but
that
we're
not
building
it
in
a
way
that
would
preclude
that
kind
of
interesting
collateral
to
be
added,
so
something
that
we're
sort
of
working
on
the
back
burner
and
then
have
a
bunch
of
other
sort
of
fun,
interesting,
cross-chain
discussions
going
on
so
just
to
call
out
one.
You
know:
we've
been
talking
with
the
duality
folks
on
how
to
do
sort
of
easy.
D
Transfer,
Swap
and
forward
with
the
work
that
Strangelove
had
done,
they're
building
an
SDK
that
should
make
that
easy
for
the
Agora
chain
and
I
know
that
our
Liquidators
or
Liquidators
on
the
inter
protocol
will
really
need
that.
So
you
know
just
to
call
out
one
of
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
are
sort
of
ongoing
and
with
that
I
guess,
I
will
turn
it
back
to
Santi.
But
a
lot
going
on
on
the
product
and
Engineering
side.
Here.
A
D
A
You
know
what
role
am
I
saying
or
should
I
just
keep
going.
A
D
A
So
we
talked
about
you
know
IST
on
the
interchain,
and
we
have
Vanessa
here
who
does
works
and
helps
a
lot
on
IST
Across,
The
Interchange.
So.
D
E
E
Absolutely
thanks,
Santi
and
thanks
it's
nice
to
hear
everyone
on
the
calls
again
I
feel
like
we're
back
at
Cosmo
verse,
but
you
know
distributed
I'm
Vanessa
postrito
I've
come
to
a
couple
of
calls
before
I'm
director
of
partner
programs
at
the
aquaric
opco,
and
you
know,
since
Cosmo
verse
and
even
from
the
initial
Cosmo
verse.
We've
had
interest
in
IST
coming
from
fellow
Cosmos
zones
as
well
as
other
networks,
and
we've
followed
up
on
a
lot
of
those
discussions.
E
We
have
Hannah
listening
she's
on
our
team
and
has
been
spearheading
those
discussions
and
so
we've
launched
sorry
we've
seen
IST
adopted
Moses
as
well
as
Crescent,
and
so
you
can
see
incentives
that
are
available
there
that
have
been
launched
by
the
DCF
and
economic
committee,
we're
also
in
discussions
for
other
use
cases
for
IST,
including
Umi
for
Lending.
E
The
injective
Helix
decks
is
interesting,
so
we're
just
keeping
an
eye
out
for
that
and
a
shade
protocol
which
will
be
participating
in
the
stablecoin
summit,
which
you'll
hear
more
about
later
on.
In
this
call,
and
overall
I've
been
really
enjoying
a
lot
of
discussions.
There's
a
great
Community,
a
lot
of
alignment
of
IST
across
the
board.
We
keep
hearing
great
feedback
as
to
how
helpful
it
is
to
a
number
of
people
in
their
community.
E
So
we'll
just
keep
you
guys
updated
for
the
next
time
and
if
anyone
is
having
questions
or
interest
around
IST
or
new
use
cases,
you
could
reach
out
to
me
on
Twitter
DMS,
Vanessa,
Dice
and
Hannah
as
well
who's
here
or
any
of
us
here
on
this
call,
but
the
fastest
with
us.
A
Cool
so
yeah
I
mean
you
had
mentioned
Shades
I
I
do
actually
before
I
jump
into
some
of
that
stuff.
I
want
to
see
if
we
have
any
questions.
A
So
if
you
do
have
a
question,
just
raise
your
hand
or
request
to
speak
I'll,
throw
you
up
on
stage,
I'll
keep
going
in
the
meantime.
But
if
you
do,
let
me
know
so:
yeah
shade
protocols,
stablecoin
Summits
happening
on
December
20th,
we're
working
on
something
with
our
friends
at
shade
that
the
community
is
probably
going
to
want
to
take
a
look
at
you
know.
A
kind
of
piece
of
it
is
the
first
ever
nft
design,
specifically
by
you,
know,
protocol
for
that
event.
A
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
happening
around
socials
and
that
event
that
you
know
inner
protocols.
You
know
working
on
with
shade
protocol.
So,
yes,
that's
all
I
will
say
for
now
so
I'd
say
just
keep
a
look
on
you.
A
On
socials,
we'll
be
dropping,
some
hints
and
I'll
be
a
little
mysterious
about
it
for
now
so
yeah
any
any
other
topics
we
want
to
run
through
I
know
we
have
what
we
have
like.
Maybe
10
minutes.
B
I
would
like
I
would
like
to
jump
in
on
something
that
we
discussed
in
our
econ
committee
last
week.
That
was
actually
a
suggestion
of
mine
that
I
discussed
offline
with
Chris
Berg,
and
we
brought
it
in
the
econ
committee
last
week,
which
was
the
possibility
to
enable
active
management
of
the
the
PSM.
B
So
what
I
mean
by
active
is
being
proactive
in
the
in
the
management
of
the
collateral
within
the
PSM,
where
we
would
be
able
to
swap
collateral
assets
and
effectively
change
the
ratios
without
having
to
wait
for
these
ratios
to
play
out
organically.
So
such
a
feature
would
likely
be
constrained,
at
least
in
my
mind,
to
Black
Swan
events
prevention,
and
it
obviously
needs
like
clear
processes
as
to
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
can
do
with
the
with
the
active
management
of
the
PSM.
B
But
I
think
it's
a
discussion
that
needs
to
to
happen,
and
we've
agreed
within
the
econ
committee
to
basically
postpone
the
discussion
to
after
the
launch
of
vaults.
As
this
is
the
key
priority.
But
I
think
it
would
be
pretty
nice
to
have
as
a
feature
for
for
isg.
B
So
basically
it's
it
like,
let's
say
let's
say
we
have
some
urgent
concerns
about
one
of
the
assets
in
in
the
PSM,
let's
say
usdt
so,
instead
of
like
just,
we
could
basically
like
within
you
know
the
the
framing
of
of
a
voting
swap
that
that
usdt
for
a
different
asset
like
usdc
or
die
to
prevent
that
Black
Swan
Black
Swan
event
and
reduce
our
exposure
to
that
specific
asset
that
consumes
us
management.
B
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
thoughts
on
on
this
Zaki
Gene
well,.
G
The
main
thought
I
have
is,
of
course,
we
have
a
community
Forum
where
more
and
more
of
these
discussions
and
as
we
roll
out
more
design,
docs
that
that
it'll
be
exciting
to
to
you
know
to
have
those
there,
we,
the
extended
Community,
you
know
so
at
community.agork.com.
So
so
we
have
enough
time
to
have
some
good
discussion
about
that.
You
know
an
ongoing
fashion.
G
You
know
the
the
the
to
come
up
with
something
that
you
know
nicely
has
has
appropriate
separation
of
concerns
and
separation
of
Duties
and
and
and
and
and
checks
and
balances,
and
all
those
kinds
of
things
one
of
the
one
of
the
you
know,
cool
elements
of
of
the
whole
econ
committee
is
the
the
extent
to
which
it
has
you
know,
fingers
on
one
knob,
but
the
build
Community
has
has
controls
of
the
other,
and
so
you've
got
this
nice
checks
and
balances,
and
so
so
I
think
it's
an
interesting
idea.
G
I
think
there's
a
bunch
of
of
good
stuff
in
that
space
and
clearly
having
having
you
know,
richer
ability
to
manage
The
Reserve
without
putting
it
at
risk
is
something
that
we
all
want
to
figure
out.
You
know
more
new
mechanisms,
and
you
know,
and
and
I
expect,
roll
out
more
new
smart
contracts
to
to
support
that.
F
F
One
thought
I
have
about
all
of
this
is
this:
this
sounds
like
a
great
kind
of
feature
for
spinning
up
potentially
like
a
a
like
external
developers,
to
you
know:
agoric
opco,
building
this
kind
of
thing
like
sounds
like
a
potentially
like
a
good
good
starting
point
for
that.
B
And
what
is
what
is
surprising
is
that
maker
Dao
doesn't
seem
to
have
that
feature.
I
can't
recall
who
told
me
that,
but
they
don't
have
it
and
I'm
surprised,
because
it
gives
us
like
a
good
head
Edge
in
being
proactive
rather
than
reactive,.
F
Yeah
I
mean
maker
dad
does
have
like
a
sort
of
governance,
god
mode
that
I
think
can
do
stuff
like
this.
But
that
involves
it's
not
like
a
specific
feature
for
this,
like
they
would
have
to.
They
don't
have
a
specific
feature
to
like
that's
already
written,
which
does
give
them
like
they'd
have
to
like
write
and
test
and
Implement
all
of
this
and
then
and
then
like
deploy
it
in
a
in
a
Black
Swan
event,
which
you
don't
have
enough
time
for
right.
B
G
G
One
of
the
things,
let
me
add
so
the
governance
architecture
in
you
know
JavaScript
context.
The
the
econ
committees
voting
is
through
the
you
know,
governance
Legos,
all
plugged
together
to
produce
a
a
committee.
One
of
the
things
that
that
that
has
that,
like
the
PSM
has,
is
there's
a
separate
contract,
which
is
the
governance
Charter.
That
is
here's
all
the
things
that
can
be
done
so
so
that
you
know
before
the
committee
is
when
the
committee
is
assigned
to
manage
that
thing.
G
The
set
of
actions
it
can
take
are,
are
well
defined
and
so
extending
that
set
of
actions
and
enabling
so
you
know
and
having
it
already
so
that
third
parties
could
propose
and
Implement
new
smart
contracts
to
provide
another
action
that
that
that
that
that
the
econ
committee
could
take
in
a
shorter
time
frame
than
a
full
chain
vote
it.
G
You
know
that
that
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
the
framework
was
designed
to
to
to
support,
and
so
so
as
that
gets
well
defined,
you
know
with
rate
limits
or
or
size
limits
or
frequency
or
you
know
voting
criteria.
So
it's
not
simple
majority,
but
requires
you
know
some
other
majority
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know
evolving
that
future
governance
is
going
to
be
interesting.
G
Part
of
the
nice
thing
about
pluggable
growable
things
is
is
you
know
is,
is
that
we
can
do
that
and
the
nice
thing
about
JavaScript
is
we
can
find
lots
of
people
to
be
able
to
do
that
so
so
I'm,
that's
that's.
Definitely
a
thing
to
to
to
to
pay
attention
to
or
Implement
new
additional
mechanisms.
Next
year.
D
Yeah
and
actually,
if,
if
anyone
on
the
call
is
looking
to
potentially
work
on
that
I
think
the
transfer
swapping
forward
is
probably
potentially
a
functionality
that
would
allow
that
right.
D
The
the
basic
idea
there
is
it's
it's
work
from
Strangelove
that
lets
you
very
easily
in
an
IDC
transaction,
send
send
collateral
of
some
kind,
make
a
swap
on
an
external
chain
and
then
receive
the
result
back,
and
so
you
know,
we've
been
talking
with
The
Duality
folks
on
that,
but
I
think
a
bunch
of
the
the
various
Cosmos
dexes
will
probably
support
that,
and
that's
something
that
you
know
we
could
allow
the
you
know
the
econ
committee
to
to
manage
the
reserve
or
manage
PSM
assets
in
the
in
the
medium
term.
E
A
Lot
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
combo
there.
Thank
you
guys
cool.
So
let
me
just
close
this
by
saying
the
cosmos
writers,
Community
contest
is
still
running.
The
entrance
Plaza
and
the
social
grid
competitions
are
active,
so
anyone
can
join
that
just
head
to
our
Discord.
Our
next
Community
call
will
be
a
month
from
now.
I
have
to
see.
A
If
we're
moving,
that
date
depends
I
think
not
I
think
it'll
be
on
the
third
Thursday
of
January,
like
we
normally
do
so
we'll
we'll
make
sure
to
get
that
announcement
out
closer
to
that
time
and.
A
Yeah
thanks
everybody
for
joining.
We
had
a
bunch
of
speakers
this
time,
music,
Dean,
Zaki,
Vanessa,
Rick,
Roland,
everybody
much
appreciated,
as
always
for
joining
thanks.
B
Thank
you,
everyone
and
happy
holidays,
and
until
next
time,
I
guess.