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From YouTube: Monday, February 1, 2021 6:30PM Albany Common Council Caucus, 7PM Public Hearing & Meeting
Description
Chief Hawkins provided an update on recent violence at Caucus.
The agenda was discussed at Caucus.
Legislation passed:
Resolution 12.21.21R (Hoey, Conti, Doesschate, Fahey, Kimbrough, O’Brien)
Resolution 14.21.21R (O'Brien)
Resolution 15.21.21R (Common Council)
Resolution 6.21.21R (Planning)
Resolution 5.12.21R (Planning)
Resolution 6.12.21R (Planning)
A
B
President
with
us
is
councilman
o'brien
councilman,
hoey,
councilman,
farrell,
councilman,
ballerin,
councilwoman,
frederick
councilman,
conti,
councilman
flynn,
councilman
johnson,
councilwoman
fahey,
president
ellis
president
pro-tem
kelly,
kimbrough,
chief
hawkins
is
present
with
us.
Commissioner,
water,
mr
simcoe,
is
here
from
the
staff.
Oh
joyce,
love
is
councilwoman,
love
is
joining
us
from
the
staff.
Is
myself
michelle,
andre
senior
legislative
aide
city
clerk,
daniel
gillespie
and
a
senior
assistant
corporation
counsel,
brett
williams,.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
got
to
get
through
tonight.
I've
had
a
conversation
with
chief
hawkins
about
the
recent
violence
and,
after
my
conversation,
I
felt
we
should
because
we
have
a
public
safety
meeting
next
week,
but
it
made
sense
to
just
to
get
him
in
here
to
just
have
a
conversation
with
us
about
the
recent
violence.
This
isn't
meant
to
be
an
in-depth.
You
know,
question
and
answer
it's
just.
C
We
you
know
from
what
we
understand.
There
were
at
least
two
individuals,
maybe
three
who
were
shooting
at
each
other
inside
of
that,
a
room
in
that
building
the
room
was
set
up
as
some
sort
of
bar
slash
nightclub
kind
of
set
up
and
and
right
now
we're
trying
to
figure
out
who
the
players
are
and
figure
out
the
people
who
were
injured
if
they
had
any
role
in
this
or
if
they
were
just
simply
innocent
bystanders
who
are
caught
in
the
crossfire.
C
C
C
C
You
know,
there's
a
narrative,
sometimes
that
we
hear
that
that
you
had
police
officers
who
were
just
waiting
for
an
opportunity
to
gunned
down
young
men
in
our
communities.
Well,
that's
far
from
the
truth:
we've
had
again
over
100
guns
taken
off
our
streets
and
in
most
of
those
cases
those
guns
were
in
the
possession
of
a
person
when
they
were
taken
off
the
street,
and
these
officers
are
doing
this
they're
doing
it
in
a
safe
way
and
they're
doing
it
in
a
way
that's
keeping
our
communities
safe.
C
C
D
Do
you
have
any
more
information
about
the
motives
for
this
homicide
and
the
one
on
ontario
and
hamilton,
because
that
one
was
very
much
execution
style
with
over
17
shots
fired?
Do
you
have
motors
that
you're
able
to
share
with
us
to
give
us
a
better
understanding
of
what's
motivating
these
individuals
to
take
such
violent
actions.
C
Some
of
it
is
drug
related.
Some
of
it
is
past
grievances
that
that
they've
had
with
some
of
these
individuals,
but
but
the
important
point
is
with
which
it
brought
up.
In
the
overwhelming
majority
of
the
cases
that
we've
seen
with
gun
violence
in
the
community,
the
individuals
were
specifically
targeted
and
you
and
you're
right.
I
know
I
think
you
may
even
use
the
word,
execute
it,
because
that's
exactly
what
we're
seeing
I
mean
these.
C
E
C
C
Simply
by
doing
some
of
those
things
that
people
never
even
heard
about,
because
in
many
cases
they
will
break
those
groups
up.
They
will
have
a
presence
and
cause
the
groups
to
disperse
and
and
there's
no
way
to
quantify
how
how
much
violence
was
prevented
by
those
and
but
the
the
other
part
of
that
councilman
johnson,
is
that
you
know
we've
got
to
be
careful.
C
You
know
when
we're
having
these
sort
of
interactions
in
our
communities
also
because,
yes,
it
means,
if
there's
some
clear
violations
of
social
distance
regulations
and
something
like
that,
then
they
should
be
interceding
and
having
some
sort
of
intervention.
But
we've
got
to
be
careful
that
we're
not
having
unnecessary
and
disparate
interactions
with
certain
members
of
our
community
and
we're
certainly
aware
of
that
piece
as
well.
F
C
C
Yeah,
it
started
off
in
in
one
place,
officers
intervened
and
dispersed
that
crowd
issued
violations
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
violations
were.
But
it
was
some
violations
in
relation
to
the
gathering
that
was
being
held
and
the
individuals
from
that
gathering
went
to
another
place
unbeknownst
to
the
officers
and
in
the
place
that
they
ultimately
ended
up
at,
which
was
the
where
the
shooting
occurred
was
not
a
place
that
was
known
to
us
as
a
habitual
problem.
H
C
H
C
I
It
was
told
to
me
earlier
today:
well
I'm
working
with
the
guy,
it's
a
it
was
a
private
club.
It
was
used
to
be
a
juice
bar,
he
he
shut
it
down
and
he
just
used
it
as
a
private
club.
That
was
was
told
to
me.
I'm
working
with
trying
to
I'm
working
with
him
right
now
so
just
want
to.
You
know
clarify
that
it
was
a
private
club.
J
Thank
you
chief
for
the
update
and
promptly
briefing
us
on
what's
happening
in
our
city
last
council
meeting.
I
talked
about
what
we're
witnessing
in
the
city
and
we
have
to
stop
the
bleeding
right.
Many
people-
and
I
spoke
to
you
about
this
on
many
instances
where
individuals
want
to
see
more
police
presence,
right
and
individuals.
Some
people
are
even
asking
for
anti-lord
legislation,
but
what
we're
witnessing
in
this
city
is
individuals
are
being
shot
execution,
style,
18,
15
times,
individuals
being
paralyzed.
J
What
are
some
of
the
challenges?
The
police
department
is
having
to
stopping
this
violence,
and
I
know
it's
not
just
the
police
department's
sole
responsibility.
But
what
can
the
county
council
members
do?
What
can
stakeholders
in
the
community
do
to
eradicate
some
of
the
violence?
The
gruesome
violence
that
we're
witnessing
in
the
city
of
albany?
I
mean
somebody
being
shot
18
times
in
a
car
in
the
city
of
albany.
J
I
still
have
nightmares
about
that,
and
particularly
what
you
know
is
close
to
where
you
reside.
So
I
just
think
about
all
the
shooting
that's
occurring
in
our
city
and
those
kids
who
have
to
go
to
school.
The
next
day
and
act
like
there's
nothing
happening
those
families
who
are
enduring
the
bloodshed.
That
has
happened
in
our
city.
It's
really
alarming
and
concerning
there
are
people
who
want
to
see
the
sheriffs
and
I'm
hearing
this.
The
sheriff
department
is
actually
retrieving
and
leaving
the
city.
J
C
C
This.
These
are
just
a
small,
although
it's
it's,
it
has
such
a
wide,
ranging
in
impact
on
members
of
the
community.
In
reality,
these
are
a
small
group
of
individuals
who
are
committing
this
violence,
and
so
one
piece
of
this
is
we
need
to
do
what
we're
doing
find
out
continue
finding
out
who
these
individuals
are
and
bring
those
individuals
to
justice
to
number
one.
C
So
we're
working
very
very
closely
with
these
agencies
and
we
actually
are
taking
these
individuals
off
the
street.
It's
not
always
publicized
and
but
we're
making
a
tremendous
amount
of
progress
with
that.
So
that's
one
piece
of
it:
we've
got
to
get
these
individuals
off
the
street.
We
got
to
send
a
message
and-
and
you
talked
about
police
presence-
that's
certainly
a
piece
of
it.
C
There
is
so
much
trauma
that
we're
seeing
with
our
young
people
in
our
community
now
and
this
trauma
is
manifesting
itself
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
with
some
of
our
young
people.
Some.
They
need
some
sort
of
intervention
from
some
of
our
social
agencies
to
help
them
through
this.
Some
are
reacting
to
this
trauma
and
destructive
violent
ways
themselves,
we're
starting
to
see
a
disturbing
pattern
of
13
in
14
or
15
year
olds,
who
are
in
stolen
cars
who
have
weapons
who
are
engaging
in
other
acts
of
violence.
C
And
what
concerns
me
is
that
those
13
14
euro
year
olds
that
are
engaged
in
that
today
are
going
to
perhaps
be
our
violent
individuals,
two
years
from
now
or
three
years
from
now,
or
even
sooner
so.
The
other
prong
of
this
councilman
is
that
we've
got
as
a
community.
We've
got
to
figure
out
a
way
of
really
touching
these
young
people
that
are
impacted
by
this
violence
that
we're
seeing
so
that
we
can.
C
C
Why
they're
younger
men
to
try
to
to
prevent
them
from
evolving
to
a
place
where
they're
engaging
in
this
sort
of
violence
and
and
terrorizing
our
community?
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
two-prong
approach.
I
think
our
officers
are
doing
a
great
job
of
of
on
one
end.
I
think
we're
doing
a
great
job
on
the
other
end
as
well.
We
just
got
to
work
hard.
Both
both
the
police
and
the
community
have
to
work
harder.
A
J
C
They're
providing
support
for
officers,
especially
on
some
of
the
scenes
where
the
officers
have
to
where
we
need
additional
bodies
to
secure
scenes,
they're
serving
as
a
a
presence
with
officers.
You
know,
I
know
in
fact
I've
gotten
complaints
about
traffic
stops
where,
instead
of
where
they
would
normally
see,
two
law
enforcement
officers
now
they're,
seeing
four
or
five,
and
I
have
to
explain
that.
That's
because
their
our
officers
are
doubled
up
with
some
of
our
sheriff's
deputies,
so
they're
providing
that
type
of
support.
C
But
you
know
intelligence
and
things
of
that
sort
right
now,
the
the
numbers
of
deputies
have
has
been
scaled
down,
and
part
of
that
is
because
we
have
officers
now
that
will
be
coming
on
in
another
week
or
two.
We
have
19
officers
that
will
be
graduating
from
the
police
academy
and
that
will
be
hitting
the
road,
and
so
that
will
provide
that
support
that
we
need
in
in
that
instance,
but
they've
been.
G
K
A
H
When
we
talked
about
it
at
the
committee
meeting,
we
were
looking
at
amending
it
after
the
next
public
safety
meeting
and
then
having
it
age
and
bringing
it
up
for
a
vote
on
march
1..
So
by
amending
it
tonight
we
potentially
speed
up
the
process.
It
doesn't
preclude
revisions
that
might
come
out
of
the
public
safety
committee
meeting
on
february,
8th
if
that
does
happen,
and
there
are
further
changes
just
push
it
pushed
it
off
to
march
1..
A
A
A
K
K
Because
you
should
do
it,
we
did
decision.
This
is
us
referring
it
to
the
state
controller,
to
look
at
the
facts
and
determine
whether
they
believe
and
and
he
had
jurisdiction
over
park
alienation,
but
there's
a
certain
amount
of
urgency
because
there's
a
very
strong
possibility
of
a
lawsuit
between
the
neighborhood
association
and
the
planning
board.
Now
I
know
hyde
and
marissa
have
started
talking,
but
there's
nothing
to
ensure
that
the
city
yet
acknowledges
the
court
council
getting.
E
A
Yep,
so
thank
you
for
that,
mr
o'brien.
That's
correct!
You
explained
that
actually,
during
our
last
caucus-
and
I
just
I
had
marked
it
on
mine
for
the
passage
okay-
so
we'll
be
moving
that
next
by
mr
inani's
resolution-
1521-21r
for
raising
the
flag,
we're
all
co-sponsors
on
that.
It's
the
same
similar
to
our
last
year's
resolution.
A
A
Okay,
next,
it's
the
emcee
by
miss
pharaoh
for
for
the
water
board.
I
know
when
caucus
when
we
talked
about
this
I
mentioned
and
said
I
would
refer
to
to
finance
for
further
discussion.
But
mr
simcoe
was
at
the
meeting
he's
here
now
and
I
I
really
see
no
reason
actually
to
send
it
to
to
finance
he's
here
again.
If
members
had
questions,
but
I'm
going
to
defer
to
the
council
members,
I'm
comfortable
moving
ahead
with
it.
Everyone
else
I
mean.
A
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
the
next
is
resolution
5
11
21,
it's
number
10
on
the
agenda.
It's
a
reappointment
of
chris
ellis
to
the
planning
board
that
passed
planning
committee
with
a
positive
recommendation
and
then
finally
number
11
resolution
6
11,
21
r,
it's
the
reappointment
of
martin
hall
to
the
by
miss
faye
of
martin
hall
to
the
planning
board
right.
Okay!
So
that's
that's
the
agenda.
I
want
to
roll
back
to
the
meeting
minutes.
O
F
M
Q
P
M
P
E
K
O
Thank
you
now
we're
going
to
move
to
our
pledge
of
allegiance
in
our
moment
of
silence,
and
the
mayor
had
mentioned
some
people
we've
lost
over
the
this
year
2020,
so
I'd
like
to
mention,
and
people
keep
his
family
in
prayer
and
in
mind
warren
mackey,
a
pillar
of
our
community
passed
away
today.
So
in
your
thoughts,
we'd
like
to
remember
him
and
his
family
on
today,
warren
was
a
role
model
mentor
to
so
many
people
in
our
community
and
our
young
people.
O
O
L
O
O
You
now
moving
on
to
our
public
hearing
and
public
caring.
We
individuals
will
be
speaking
upon
the
ordinance
that
I'll
have
the
clerk
read
in
a
few
minutes,
and
this
public
hearing
and
public
hearing
is
different
than
public
comment.
You're
in
public
hearing
common
council
members
can
ask
the
speaker
questions
about
the
subject
matter
and
in
the
public
hearing.
You
can
only
talk
about
the
ordinance,
that's
in
front
of
us.
So,
madam
clerk,
can
you
please
read
the
ordinance
and
let
us
know
if
we
have
anyone
signed
up
for
the
public
hearing.
P
Yes,
mr
president,
the
ordinance
reads
as
follows:
an
ordinance
amending
chapter
375
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
albany,
changing
the
zoning
classification
of
1057,
washington,
avenue
and
1061
washington
avenue
from
mixed
use;
neighborhood
center,
which
is
munc
to
residential
2,
family
r-2
and
amending
the
zoning
map.
Accordingly,.
L
Q
R
R
The
two
houses
in
question
are
very
much
like
other
residences
along
washington
avenue,
all
of
which
are
zoned,
r1
or
r2.
This
designation
allows
for
commercial
space
within
the
buildings,
and
indeed
there
are
some
businesses
and
houses
like
these
along
washington
avenue.
In
other
words,
the
owners
of
1057
and
1061
may
continue
to
use
these
houses
as
apartment,
rentals
or
small
business.
Rentals.
R
The
value
to
their
property
is
not
affected
by
a
change
in
the
zoning.
A
key
concept
in
this
discussion
is
neighborhood.
This
is
our
neighborhood,
not
the
neighborhood
of
the
owners
of
these
two
properties.
Those
owners
live
elsewhere,
so
it
is
appropriate
that
we
should
speak
about
the
current
life
of
this
neighborhood.
R
It's
also
important
to
remember
that
these
two
properties
were
misdesignated
munc.
When
the
munc
was
created,
the
boundary
line
that
ran
along
the
rear
of
businesses
on
calvin
avenue
should
not
have
been
extended
to
washington,
avenue.
Council
member
mike
o'brien
has
spoken
to
that
point.
Accepting
responsibility
on
behalf
of
the
common
council
for
the
inattention
to
the
maps
boundary
lines
that
incorrectly
included
these
two
houses
in
the
munc
zone.
R
R
But
such
a
thing
could
never
happen
because
every
project
is
looked
at
individually
by
city
agencies.
There
is
no
movement
to
stop
growth,
but
residents
have
the
right
and
responsibility
to
speak
out
about
specific
proposals
to
make
sure
they're
appropriate
for
their
neighborhood
in
albany.
So
I
would
sincerely
hope
that
this
ordinance
would
pass
on
its
merits.
O
P
O
S
Ahead,
sir,
thank
you,
members
of
the
common
council.
I
just
wanted
to
speak
in
support
of
councilman
o'brien's
ordinance
to
rezone
these
two
properties.
I
think
it's
important
to
consider
a
legislative
intent
that
went
into
zoning
these
two
residential
structures
as
munc,
that
being
that
there
was
no
legislative
intent.
S
S
S
So
to
me,
the
council
is
not
taking
away
rights
from
the
property
owner,
it's
actually
making
it,
so
the
current
use
is
allowed
in
this
zoning
district,
and
you
know
the
current
property
owner
did
state
in
the
committee
meeting
that
there's
a
lot
of
businesses
along
the
washington
ave
corridor,
and
I
would
actually
like
to
point
out
that
those
are
all
zone
residential.
These
two
properties
are
the
odd
properties
out
from
the
entire
neighborhood.
S
You
know,
there's
nothing
special
about
these
two
lots
that
make
these
buildings
somehow
more
appropriate
for
mixed
use,
commercial
neighborhood
than
any
other
residential
property
that
currently
has
an
office
use.
The
zoning
map
simply
drew
a
straight
line
down
the
rear
property
boundaries,
and
just
because
there's
commercial
parking
lots
that
run
behind
colvin
avenue
does
not
mean
that
these
two
residential
properties
are
more
consistent
with
a
commercial
use
than
the
intended
residential
use.
S
S
What
continually
came
up
was
that
that
proposed
commercial
use
was
inconsistent
with
the
neighborhood,
so
I
worked
with
councilman
o'brien
on
this
and
the
neighbors
in
the
sense
that
our
neighbors
shouldn't
be
forced
to
you
know,
fight
back
against
a
proposed
project
just
because
two
residential
structures
are
zoned
commercial
when
when
they
should
not
be
so,
I
asked
the
council
to
consider
supporting
councilman
o'brien's
resolution
and
I
think
that
by
changing
the
zoning
designations,
we
can
have
a
more
orally
development
in
our
neighborhood,
which
is
the
purpose
of
zoning
in
the
first
place.
Thank
you.
O
P
O
P
I
can
move
on
to
the
written
comment
that
was
received
while
we
wait
for
mr
solomon
to
respond.
If
that's
okay
with
you,
mr
president,
this
written
correspondence
comes
from
patricia
doyle
and
reads
as
follows:
I'm
writing
to
support
common
councilman
michael
bryan's,
ordinance,
2092-20
to
rezone
1057
and
1061
washington
avenue
from
mixed
use.
Commercial
to
r2.
P
O
P
He's
still
muted,
I
know
I
have
another
written
comment
from
renee
marwah
of
eileen
street,
which
reads
as
follows:
this
area
should
be
designated
residential.
The
sunoco
gas
station
and
former
key
bank
at
washington
and
colvin
should
be
grandfathered
in
with
no
other
commercial
designation
in
that
area.
P
P
The
zoning
of
the
two
properties
came
into
question
when
stewart
proposed
to
demolish
the
two
residential
buildings,
in
addition
to
the
existing
key
bank
and
to
construct
the
convenience
store
and
gasoline
fueling
station
of
budding
the
residential
properties
on
rosemont.
The
main
opposition
to
the
proposed
stewards
was
that
the
commercial
expansion
project
was
inconsistent
with
the
harmony
of
the
neighborhood
zoning
districts
are
meant
to
protect,
neighborhoods
and
ensure
and
provide
for
orderly
development.
P
So
long
as
these
properties
remain
mixed
use,
commercial
future
developers
will
look
to
bundle
the
two
residential
properties
with
the
existing
key
bank
and
create
a
commercial
lot
which
is
inconsistent
with
the
colvin
avenue
corridor
and
negatively
affect
the
nearby
contiguous
residents
as
well
as
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
The
proposed
rezone
does
not
impact
the
current
use
of
the
property
and
merely
ensures
that
the
zoning
district
classification
is
consistent
with
the
use.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
that's
from
betty
and
ben
ware.
O
Q
O
G
P
So
this
one
is
from
vince
raguso
and
reads
as
follows:
members,
this
is
a
no-brainer.
Let's
pass
this
ordnance
2092-20
to
re-zone
1057,
washington,
ave
and
1061
washington,
avenue
residential
2
family,
our
two
parcels
and
to
change
zoning
map.
Accordingly,
as
you
know,
when
the
planning
department
was
doing
the
usdo,
there
were
a
few
mistakes,
and
this
is
one
of
them.
How
many
times
has
the
planet
department
been
asked
to
explain
different
flubs
in
the
usdo?
P
The
issue
came
to
my
attention
when
stewards
proposed
to
build
a
convenience
store
gas
station
on
the
site
of
key
bank
in
the
two
residential
properties
in
competition
with
a
long-established
station
across
the
street,
I
looked
through
the
usdo
in
the
previous
zoning
regulations
and
saw
the
christopher
spencer
approved
grandfathering
in
the
previous
zone,
without
removing
the
two
residential
properties
to
where
they
should
be
r2.
The
purpose
of
the
uso
was
to
rectify
past
errors
and
to
support
traditional
neighborhoods.
P
It
has
become
more
and
more
clear
that
what
is
in
writing
has
not
been
the
goal
of
the
commission
or
the
planning
department
nor
his
administration.
The
above
ordinance
would
correct
the
errors
of
the
present
zoning
of
the
two
residential
buildings
and
properly
set
up
precedence
for
future
discoveries
in
the
flood
usdr.
P
This
comment
is
specific
to
2092-20
and
submitted
by
sarah
harrington
albert
wilson
iv.
Deborah
conte
and
christopher
conte
reads
as
follows:
represent
a
number
of
residents
of
rosemont
street
whose
properties
are
closely
situated
to
the
properties
that
are
the
subject
of
the
above
reference
ordinance.
We
write
to
reiterate
our
support
for
council
member
mike
michael
o'brien's
application
to
amend
the
zoning
map
to
change
the
classification
of
1057
and
1061
washington
avenue
from
muncie
to
r2.
P
We
detailed
reasons
for
our
support
in
our
letter
dated
january
11
2021.
We
would
just
like
to
emphasize
a
couple
of
points
in
response
to
some
of
the
comments
of
the
property
owners
and
the
council
members
expressed
at
the
january
11
2021
meeting
of
the
planning
economic
development
and
land
use
committee.
Specifically,
there
appeared
to
be
some
concern
that
the
proposed
change
was
reactionary
or
intended
to
defeat
a
particular
development
proposal.
The
stewards
project
was
denied
by
the
planning
board,
but
this
application
is
not
about
stewards.
P
The
usdo
sets
forth
several
standards
for
the
council
to
consider
in
determining
whether
to
amend
the
zoning
map
among
others.
These
considerations
include
whether
proposed
amendment
would
be
consistent
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
Improving
compatibility
among
uses
and
ensure
efficient
development
within
the
city
and
result
in
a
logical
and
orderly
development
pattern.
The
proposed
zoning
map
amendment
accomplishes
these
goals.
P
The
current
use
of
the
properties
is
incompatible
with
its
zoning
designation,
and
the
amendment
would
make
the
zoning
for
these
properties
consistent,
not
only
with
their
current
use,
but
also
with
the
surrounding
properties,
to
face
washington
avenue,
all
of
which
are
sown,
as
r1
or
r2
properties,
improving
compatibility
in
logical
and
orderly
development
based
on
the
foregoing
and
for
the
reasons
set
forth
in
our
january
letter.
We
ask
that
the
council
zone
to
approve
of
the
proposed
change
to
the
zoning
map.
Again,
that
was
from
sarah
harrington
albert
wilson,
the
fourth
deborah
constant,
christopher
thompson.
P
Carol
carmen
of
rosemont
writes
to
follow.
We
are
writing
in
support
of
ordnance
2092
to
rezone
the
properties
located
at
1057
and
1061
washington
ave
from
munc
to
r2
residential
zoning
is
intended
to
preserve
land
for
housing,
which
supports
the
current
use
of
these
two
lots.
The
surrounding
neighborhood
predominantly
consists
of
residential
dwellings,
which
were
built
mid-century
1900s
and
have
been
used
as
such
since
that
time.
The
current
zoning
of
mu
and
c
for
these
two
properties
is
inconsistent
with
upper
washington
neighborhood.
P
The
coleman
avenue
corridor
has
always
been
home
to
a
variety
of
office
based
businesses
or
small
retail
establishments.
The
recent
stewards
proposal
to
raise
these
two
dwellings
to
combine
the
lots
with
the
key
bank
on
the
corner
was
rightly
rejected
as
a
project
not
congruent
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
My
husband
and
I
grew
up
in
this
neighborhood
and
have
lived
here
for
over
50
years.
P
The
past
several
years
has
seen
a
resurgence
of
families
with
young
school-aged
children
moving
in
and
bringing
a
vibrancy
with
them
in
order
to
dissuade
future
developers
from
presenting
similar
proposals
and
to
maintain
the
trajectory
of
young
families
moving
to
the
neighborhood
and
remaining
in
the
city.
We
recommend
and
think
it
is
incumbent
upon
the
common
council
to
approve
the
ordinance
updating
them
to
residential
r2.
We
would
like
to
thank
you
in
advance
for
your
consideration
of
this
matter,
and
that
is
from
carol
carmen
and
timothy
carmen.
P
P
Gary
demolowicz
has
a
comment
regarding
2092-20
as
well
good
evening.
My
name
is
gary
demolowicz
and,
along
with
my
wife,
we
are
the
owners
of
1057
washington
ave.
Our
family
at
one
time
had
owned
three
buildings
on
washington,
ave
and
lived
in
the
neighborhood
over
60
years,
so
we
know
the
neighborhood
better
than
most.
I
would
like
to
correct
the
inaccuracies
in
the
petition
before
us
line
three
said
the
property
was
incorrectly
zoned.
This
is
not
true.
The
zoning
is
correct.
1057
washington
ave
has
been
zoned
mixed
use
for
many
years.
P
P
Our
buildings,
sad
to
say,
are
the
last
ones
left.
There
was
a
time
in
our
city
when
we
promoted
mixed
use
to
family
buildings,
and
there
were
many
on
washington
now
line.
Four
says
said:
there
are
no
other
residential
buildings
in
our
neighborhood
that
our
zone
makes
use
again.
This
is
not
true.
In
fact,
there
are
many
buildings
on
washington,
ave
that
are
zoned
for
business
line.
Five
talks
about
consistent,
adjacent
residential
use
on
both
washington
and
rosemont
street,
comparing
rosemont
street
to
washington
ave,
is
like
apples
to
oranges.
There
is
no
comparison.
P
Rosemont
street
is
a
dead
end
single
family
homes
with
no
through
traffic.
One
thing
rosemont
street
does
have
in
common
is
their
backyard
all,
but
up
against
the
commercial
property.
On
the
east
side,
it
was
commercial
before
they
bought
their
homes
and
it
was
commercial
when
they
bought
their
homes.
Washington
ave
is
a
four-lane
road
that
is
emergency
route
for
police
fire
ambulance.
P
It
has
truck
and
bus
traffic
and
has
25
000
cars
a
day
past
the
front
of
our
building
washington
app
has
a
gas
station
dentist
office,
doctor's
offices,
day
care
attorney
office,
multi-unit
apartments,
while
the
petition
compares
rosemont
street
to
washington,
ave
makes
no
sense.
Our
property
is
a
hundred
feet
from
colvin.
Half
coleman
ave
is
what
we
should
be
compared
to
six.
The
petition
said
the
zoning
change
would
be
consistent
with
existing
residential
structure
adjacent
to
existing
gas
station
on
the
corner
of
calvin
ave.
P
This
is
not
accurate,
1057
washington
app
has
been
zoned
mixed
use
for
many
years.
The
house
next
to
the
gas
station
is
a
single
family
house
that
was
boarded
up
and
vacant
for
many
years
and
is
in
much
needed
repairs
and
had
many
violations
with
the
planning
department.
I
asked
you
to
walk
by
the
house
next
to
the
gas
station
tomorrow
and
see
the
debris
and
trash
piled
up.
I
see
work
going
on
and
no
sign
of
any
permits.
P
In
fact,
we
take
pride
in
our
building
and
to
be
compared
to
that
property
is
an
insult
to
us.
Mix
uses
the
right
zoning
for
our
property.
It
was
a
zone
mixed
use,
a
long
time
before
many
of
the
current
residents
lived
there
with
respect
to
signatures
on
the
petition.
One
would
think
my
house
was
on
rosemont
street
how
signatures
from
people
that
live
afar
over
as
rosemont
and
lincoln
ave
to
state
street
euclid
beach,
ave
melrose,
not
even
close
to
our
property.
P
I
just
I
did
submit
over
50
letters
of
support
that
support
our
position
and
they
were
from
people
that
live
across
the
street
on
washington
and
close
to
calvin
ave.
In
my
30
years
in
the
legislature
representing
the
14th
ward
and
part
of
the
eighth
ward,
I
never
saw
a
zoning
change
from
mixed
use
to
r2.
Please
note:
the
planning
board
could
not
get
a
second
to
approve
this
change.
They
supported
my
position
and
I
asked
the
committee
to
do
the
same
and
vote
no
on
this
ordinance.
This
is
bad
public
policy.
P
P
P
Karen
conneff,
I'm
writing
in
support
of
councilman,
mike
michael
o'brien's,
ordinance
2092
to
rezone,
1057
and
1061
washington
avenue
to
r2.
These
properties
are
part
of
a
residential
community
and
should
be
classified
as
such.
This
area,
within
the
upper
washington
avenue
neighborhood
association,
is
a
community
of
families
and
friends.
Currently,
there
is
an
abundance
of
commercial
business
of
all
kinds
within
a
few
blocks
of
everyone.
P
P
B
O
Okay,
since
no
response-
I
guess
mr
williams,
my
apologies,
advice
on
council-
I
did.
I
did
tell
me
why
they
needed
to
be
read
in
the
record
during
public
hearing.
So
my
apologies
to
you
and
thank
for
our
corporate
counsel,
no
apology,
now
senator
council
jr
for
giving
me
that.
Thank
you,
sir.
With
that
being
said,
we
will
designate
this
public
hearing
closed
at
this
time.
O
Move
on
to
the
matters
in
our
agenda
now
we'll
go
on
to
our
public
comment
period
during
public
comment
period,
each
person
has
30
minutes
to
speak
upon
what
they
would
like
to
during
that
each
speaker
will
say
their
name
and
their
address
for
the
record.
Unlike
a
public
hearing
common
council
members
cannot
address
or
answer
any
questions
at
this
time.
O
P
O
T
Good
evening,
so
I
wanted
to
talk
quickly
on
two
topics.
First
of
all,
I
strongly
support
the
reappointment
of
mr
ellis
and
mr
hull
to
the
planning
board.
I've
watched
them
numerous
meetings.
They
both
give
thoughtful
assessment
to
the
issues
before
them
and
they
will
continue
to
be
strong
members
of
the
board
and
also
I
wanted
to
comment
on
council
member
fahey's
resolution,
her
resolution
to
promote
equity
and
pedestrian
safety
and
mobility
by
improving
snow
and
ice
removal
from
city
sidewalks,
street
crossings
and
bus
stops.
T
I
attended
the
general
services
committee
last
week
and
dgs
has
some
very
good
plans
in
place
to
deal
with
ada
accessibility,
removal
of
snow
and
ice
from
ada
ramps,
which
is
really
really
important.
We
need
to
be
the
city
needs
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
americans
with
disabilities
act.
I
have
been
stunned.
T
T
Q
I
P
No
one
is
waiting
in
cuba.
We
do
have
a
couple
written
comments,
one
from
marlon
anderson
of
albany,
new
york
community
violence.
Over
a
year
ago,
I
presented
the
council
with
the
city
with
an
idea
that
would
change
the
dynamic
on
street
on
city
streets
regarding
gun
violence,
something
that
was
clearly
and
is
clearly
needed,
but
to
your
detriment.
It
was
ignored
and
now
look
at
the
dynamic
on
our
streets.
Gun
violence
has
become
the
accepted
norm.
People
are
looking
for
the
chance
to
shoot
and
kill
in
this
city.
P
We
must
change
the
dynamic
and
mentality
and
it
won't
change
with
politics,
political
committees,
task
forces
or
appointees.
It
will
take
action.
A
targeted,
anti-loitering
ordinance
geared
to
preventing
gun
violence
will
save
lives
and
clearly
lives
need
to
be
saved.
It
is
now
up
to
you,
as
elected
leaders,
to
take
the
action
that
is
needed
to
save
again,
that
was
from
marlon
anderson
and
this
one
is
from
karen
strong.
I'm
writing
in
favor
of
the
reappointment
of
martin
hall
to
albany's
planning
board
as
a
professional
planner.
P
Mr
hull
is
highly
qualified
member
of
the
planning
board
and
his
experience
shows.
I
am
concerned
that
some
common
council
members,
disagreement
with
the
usdo,
have
translated
to
a
non-partisan
board.
Member,
as
you
all
know,
a
planning
board
members
responsibilities
is
determined
by
new
york
state
law
and
they
are
tasked
with
implementing
the
zoning
laws
that
are
approved
by
the
common
council.
As
such
planning
board
members
have
limited
discretion
in
their
decision
making
in
describing
the
role
of
findings
in
local
government
decisions.
P
They
may
make
a
decision
only
when
all
of
the
requirements
specified
in
state
statute
or
local
law
are
addressed.
End
quote:
I
have
lived
in
albany
all
of
my
adult
life
and
I
served
on
the
albany
2030
comprehensive
plan
committee.
It
is
exciting
that,
12
years
later,
the
plan
continues
to
be
implemented
through
the
usda.
P
I
have
never
seen
so
much
private
development
in
the
city,
which
is
essential
for
a
vital
albany
of
the
future.
What
we
need
on
the
planning
board
is
a
person
who
is
willing
to
learn
the
complexities
understands
the
role
who
can
fairly
apply
the
law
and
is
willing
to
devote
the
time
needed
to
fulfill
this
volunteer
position
to
the
best
of
their
ability.
We
are
lucky
to
have
mr
hull
on
the
planning
board
and
I
urge
you
to
vote
in
favor
of
his
reappointment
lawrence
clark.
I
submitted
the
following.
P
I
have
another
concern
about
south
pearl
street,
downtown
albany
between
mccarthy
and
mount
hope
on
south
pearl
street.
There
is
an
underpass
that
has
absolutely
no
lighting
at
nighttime.
This
issue
really
needs
to
be
addressed.
It
is
dangerous
for
people
walking
underneath
underpass
and
the
dark,
especially
with
a
on
ramp,
to
jump
on
the
highway.
P
P
There
should
be
some
type
of
lighting
underneath
there
there
their
children
to
walk
underneath
the
unemployed,
women
to
walk
underneath
the
underpass,
and
even
anyone
should
be
able
to
have
a
well-lit,
safe
path,
and
I
hope
a
copy
of
this
email
was
sent
to
the
mayor's
office,
because
I've
noticed
on
the
south
end
with
residents
down
here,
asked
for
something
majority
of
the
time.
It
is
ignored,
relaxed
for
a
traffic
light
years
ago,
and
they
were
talking
about
budget
restraints.
P
O
A
S
S
That's
when
you
enter
western
hills
park,
it's
where
patreons
that
western
knows
little
league
park
when
there's
overflow
parking
and
not
enough
parking
in
the
parking
lot,
and
I
just
think
that
this
is.
The
resolution
is
important
step
to
to
send
a
message
that
the
council
agrees
that
there's
an
issue
here
regarding
the
implied
dedication
and
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
if
the
council
also
considered
expressed
dedication
to
take
away
any
possible
future
development
or
use
of
that
park
property
in
the
future.
S
O
A
F
We
also
met
on
ordinance,
46
122
20,
that's
regarding
technical
amendments
to
the
usda
and
then
a
planning
committee
will
meet
again
on
february
3rd
to
discuss
locology
and
that's
the
city
of
albany
commission
on
municipal
internet
service
and
we'll
also
be
discussing
again
ordinance,
46
122,
20
technical
amendments
to
the
usda.
Thank
you.
K
K
Go
ahead
mike,
let's
see!
Okay,
can
you
hear
me?
I
went
out
of
the
meeting
and
came
back
again
there
you
go
okay,
so
the
general
services
committee
met
on
january
25th
to
consider
resolution
621-20r,
that's
cassie,
phase
resolution
regarding
equity
and
pedestrian
safety
and
mobility
regarding
snow
and
ice
removal
on
sidewalks
street
crossings
and
bus
stops.
We
voted
unanimously
to
pass
it,
but
we
also
decided
that
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
reconvene
at
a
date
a
few
weeks.
K
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
president.
The
public
safety
committee
me
met
on
the
25th
of
january
to
discuss
tweet
local
law
j,
which
is
the
cpr
b
legislation,
and
it
led
to
those
amendments
that
mr
conti
put
forth
so
hopefully
we're
getting
closer
to
finalizing
that,
and
we
also
have
an
upcoming
meeting
on
the
8th
of
february
to
finalize,
or
you
know,
discuss
that
one
more
time
and
also
review
the
police
reform
collaborative
report.
A
O
P
An
ordinance
amending
chapter
375
of
the
code
of
the
city
of
albany,
unified,
sustainable
development,
ordinance
changing
the
zoning
classification
of
1057,
washington,
ave
and
1061
washington
avenue
from
mixed
use,
neighborhood
center
munc
to
residential
2
family
r2
and
amending
the
zoning
map.
Accordingly,.
K
O
K
Yeah,
we've
all
heard
the
comments
of
the
neighbors
and
of
high
clark,
who
has
a
lot
of
legal
expertise
as
a
land
use
attorney.
You
know
one
of
the
things
which
amazes
me
when
I
was
listening
to
gary
devolds
talk
about
this
particular
property,
which
he
said.
It's
been
mixed-use
neighborhood
center
for
years,
which
is
not
true.
K
It
only
became
mixed-use
neighborhood
center
in
2008
2017
when
we
passed
the
usdo
prior
to
that
it
had
been
several
things,
but
for
several
years
carbon
avenue
that
block
of
calvin
avenue
had
been
commercial
office
which
would
have
allowed
him
to
do
what
he
did.
You
know
he
had
it
as
a
residence
and
he
said
he
had
it
as
a
real
estate
office
and
those
uses
were
all
allowed.
K
Neighborhood
center
on
these
two
properties
of
washington
avenue,
because
we
didn't
really
realize
that
the
zoning
map
had
converted
them
to
a
new
status
which
technically
excluded
them.
So
it
didn't
become
a
problem
until
stewards
wanted
to
come
in
and
build
something
which
is
zoned
in
a
mixed-use
neighborhood
center,
but
would
definitely
have
a
tremendous
impact
on
rosemary
and
it's
not
apples
and
oranges.
Rosemont
street
is
a
residential
property.
It
directly
abuts.
K
So
I
really
think
that
the
residents
made
a
very
legitimate
concern
to
they
basically
maintain
this
for
what
it
always
was,
and
it
was
one
of
those
errors,
one
of
those
flubs
in
the
usdo
that
we
unintentionally,
we
didn't.
You
know,
look
closely
at
the
line
that
they
drew
when
they
were
redrawing
all
of
carbon
avenue
into
a
new
zoning
category.
So
I
think
it
really
is
a
correction.
I
don't
think
it
hurts
the
two
owners
at
all.
K
The
only
thing
that
it
does.
It
protects
against
a
very
large
high
volume,
trafficked
stewards
or
some
similar
type
of
enterprise
sitting
right
next
to
rosemont
street
and
by
the
way,
virtually
all
of
those
people
live
within
a
very
close
circle
around
this
area
they
weren't
pulled
in
from
other
sides
of
the
city
with
maybe
maybe.
R
K
I
think
there
might
have
been
one
from
chestnut
street,
but
by
and
large
most
of
them
were
very
close,
close
and
directly
impacted
by
this.
So
I
would
ask
for
your
for
your
support
on
this,
and
the
other
point
is,
since
you
know
gary
is
an
owner
of
the
property,
and
I
definitely
respect
that-
and
I
respect
him
known
for
many
years,
but
as
an
owner
of
the
property
50
percent
of
of
that.
K
His
objection
to
it
necessitates
a
three-quarters
vote,
in
other
words,
12
members
of
the
council
tonight
have
to
vote
for
this,
or
it
remains
mixed
use-
neighborhood
center,
which
hopefully
nothing
will
happen
to
gary's
house.
He
has
to
rebuild
it
and
be
prohibited
from
doing
so,
but
it
basically
is
a
protection
for
him
as
well
as
for
the
neighborhood.
F
Thank
you,
mr
president.
I
want
to
echo
a
lot
of
what
mike
said.
I
I
want
to
point
out-
and
this
is
very
important.
I
felt,
like
the
planning
committee
took
this,
this
ordinance
and
this
zone
change
extremely
seriously.
We
looked
at
both
sides
of
the
issue,
and
you
know
these
are
property
owners
and
they
have
big
plans
for
these
two
properties.
F
But
you
know
the
other
side
made
a
very
strong
case
as
well.
There
was
confusion
too
because
of
the
the
applications
to
demolish
the
house,
the
earlier
applications
to
demolish
the
house
houses
and
build
the
stuart
shop
and
gas
station
there,
but
those
it's
important
to
just
re-emphasize
that
those
applications
were
denied
and
actually
twice
and
because
they
felt
that
the
the
project
was
out
of
scale
with
the
surrounding
uses
and
out
of
character
with
the
the
neighborhood
there
on
washington
avenue.
F
Yes,
there
are
some
offices,
you'll
see
some
doctor
offices
and
you
know
in
some
of
the
residences,
but
it's
it's
nothing
in
comparison
to
what
you
might
see
over
on
colvin
avenue
and
what
a
stewardship
would
have
brought
to
the
area.
So
I
think
in
the
end,
the
planning
committee
decided
that
a
zone
change
was
warranted
and
that,
indeed,
in
back
in
2017,
an
error
was
made
this.
These
two
properties
should
have
been
zoned
r2
residential,
two
family,
two
family
homes.
M
N
Thank
you.
Mr
president.
After
a
great
deal
of
thought,
I've
decided
to
vote
present
on
this
ordinance.
There
are
a
few
people
that
I
respect
more
than
council
member
mike
o'brien.
There
are
compelling
arguments
on
both
sides
of
this
issue.
I
understand
the
arguments
of
council
member
o'brien
and
of
the
neighbors
that
live
close
to
the
properties.
N
N
I
have
had
outreach
from
constituents
on
both
sides
of
this
issue,
some
concerned
about
losing
the
character
of
our
neighborhood
and
others
wanting
to
more
businesses
to
have
a
more
walkable
community
for
a
lot
of
my
ward,
there's,
not
a
lot
of
walkable
places.
The
call
the
navic
avenue
corridor
is
one
of
them.
N
Ultimately,
I'm
not
comfortable
voting
yes
on
this,
but
I'm
also
not
comfortable
voting.
No,
I
do
know
that
the
ideal
process
for
this
for
zoning-
this
is
not
the
ideal
process.
I
value
that
we
have
this
opportunity,
but
I
also
don't
feel
that
this
process
is
the
ideal
and
I
don't
blame
councilmember
o'brien
for
this
at
all.
N
I
am
heartened
that
the
planning
department
decision
to
reject
a
project
that
was
clearly
not
that
clearly
did
not
fit
with
the
neighborhood
was
rejected,
so
be
voting
present
in
the
hope
that
a
collaborative
process
will
happen
in
the
future.
A
quick
note,
just
in
light
of
what
council
member
hoey
said.
This
is
absolutely
not
a
sellout
on
my
part.
It
is
listening
to
my
constituents
on
both
sides.
It
is
spending
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
this
process,
there
has
absolutely
been
some
political
pressure
applied
to
me
that
doesn't
matter
to
me.
N
I
say
to
my
constituents
openly.
I
am
somebody
that
looks
at
facts.
I
will
look
at
different
sides
of
the
issue
and
that's
what
I've
done
in
this
situation
and
ideally
the
planning
process
should
work
council
members
should
not
feel
that
they
have
to
go
to
this
process,
to
have
their
voices
heard
and
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
move
forward
with
a
working
planning
process
and
I'm
hoping
that
the
leadership
of
planning
hears
this.
Thank
you.
J
J
J
We
have
people
who
want
to
invest,
build
workspaces
and
development
in
the
city
of
albany.
They
want
to
contribute
in
the
city
of
albany,
even
with
all
the
violence,
and
you
know,
activities,
that's
happened
in
the
city
of
albany.
People
still
are
optimistic
and
look
see
the
value
and
the
potential
of
investing
in
our
city.
J
There
are
people
who
want
to
contribute
to
our
tax
base
and
bring
jobs
to
albany,
but
this
small,
vocal
group
of
coalition
continues
to
call
for
rejections
after
rejections
of
development.
Any
projects
I
mean
what
we're
voting
on
started
because
there
was
discussions
about
having
the
stewards
at
that
location.
It
wasn't
even
announced.
It
was
a
thought,
and
now
individuals
want
to
change
the
current
use,
which
is
a
mixed
use
into
multi-family,
something
that
we
have
not
witnessed
in
all
the
years
in
the
city.
J
The
facts
are
albany
had
seen
more
traffic
on
the
streets
and
a
larger
population
in
1950s
than
it
does
today.
Albany
also
had
a
larger
tax
base.
During
that
time
there
are
some
of
my
colleagues
who
say
well
during
the
census.
Let's
try
to
encourage
people
to
get
to
100
000,
so
we
can
get
into
a
different
tax
break
tax
bracket
and
that
we'll
get
more
funding
from
the
federal
government.
J
Everyone
is
moving
towards
a
walkable
neighborhood,
the
council.
Member
for
the
13th
ford
said
it.
Individuals
want
to
walk
to
the
local
businesses,
the
local
shops
and
walk
back
home,
and
that's
why
the
pineal
neighborhood
is
the
envy
of
the
city.
Individuals
are
able
to
go
to
cvs,
stewards,
gas
station
library,
restaurants,
that
is
what
promotes
vibrancy
in
urban
settings.
J
The
reality
is
that
these
projects
are
not
beyond
the
capacity
of
a
mid-sized
city
like
albany.
If
anything
is
going
to
demonstrate
the
progress
our
city
is
making
this
comeback
towards
the
post
war.
Pete
now
look
I
I
understand
that
not
every
project
is
a
good
fit
and
I'm
talking
about
project
because
that's
what
this
is
about.
This
is
about
preventing
a
commercial
entity
from
being
at
that
location.
J
Now
it's
understandable,
like
no
no
project
is
a
good
fit
and
there's
some
businesses
that
are
not
good
fits
for
certain
neighborhoods,
but
that's
why
we
have
a
planning
board.
That's
why
we
have
a
zoning
board
as
well
as
opportunities
for
the
public,
to
comment
on
only
development
or
solicit
any
feedback.
J
We
are
putting
the
car
before
the
horse
as
it
relates
to,
even
if
this
was
misused,
there's
no
certainty
that
the
project
will
approve,
as
it
relates
to
any
commercial
property.
Now,
let's
talk
about
the
facts
about
this.
What
we're
voting
on
that
planning
board
cannot
get
a
second
to
change.
The
zoning
the
board
agreed
that
it
should
stay
as
a
mixed
use.
J
1057
and
1061
washington
avenue
have
been
mixed
use
forever.
I'm
not
sure
where
we're
getting
this
information,
that's
been
mixed
use
since
2017.
they
had
a
doctor's
office,
a
dentist
office.
They
had
an
insurance
office,
they
have
food
brokerage
office,
they
have
off-street
parking
for
all
cars.
Let's
be
clear.
No
other
building
on
washington
ave
has
more
off
street
parking
than
1057
and
1061
washington
avenue,
1057
and
1050
1061
are
within
a
hundred
feet
of
coven
avenue
and
I
traveled
to
covent
avenue
every
saturday
morning.
J
J
J
J
J
These
individuals
could
go
to
any
other
neighborhood
any
other
town
and
they
are,
mr
president,
when
we
stop
development
in
certain
neighborhoods,
they
don't
say:
okay,
let
me
go
to
the
lower
wards.
Let
me
go
to
the
upper
wards
or
let
me
go
this
way.
They
are
moving
out
of
the
city,
it's
essentially
discouraging
them
for
wanting
to
invest,
and
the
word
gets
out,
mr
president,
in
the
pine
hills,
neighborhood,
hudson
and
hamilton.
J
J
J
J
D
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
something
clear
here.
This
was
a
very
difficult.
It
is
a
difficult
situation
that
we're
in.
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
government
telling
homeowners,
you
know
what
you
what
you
purchase,
isn't
what
you
have.
I
don't
like
that.
I
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
I
also
have
a
problem
with
the
fact
the
government
changed
the
rules
for
these
other
homeowners
that
lived
in
the
neighborhood
just
to
be
clear
this
pro
and
to
be
clear,
I've
done
some
research
on
this.
D
D
Listened
to
hear
what
residents
had
to
say,
you
know
people
who
live
in
that
neighborhood
have
to
say-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
record
is
clear
before
2017
these
properties
were
not
mixed
used,
they
were
office
use,
so
they
were
able
to
be
used
for
residential
or
for
office
use.
So
if
you
wanted
to
have
a
real
estate
office
or
a
small
office,
you
were
able
to
use.
You
were
able
to
do
that
in
2017,
with
the
wonderful
usdo
that
has
really.
D
D
I
don't
like
the
position
that
we're
in
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
us
having
to
go
in
and
and
go
back.
I
would
like
to
go
back
to
what
it
was
in
2017
because
then
resident
the
property
owners
have
the
office
use
which,
under
the
new
zoning,
they
have
mixed
opportunities
to
use
it.
It
wouldn't
be
it'd
only
be
able
to
be
used
if
they
lived
in
the
property
and
they
don't
live
in
the
property,
so
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
use
it
with
in
that
in
that
manner.
So
I
don't.
D
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear
too.
I
love
stewards.
You
know
at
my
wedding,
we
didn't
cut
cake,
we
scooped
steward's
ice
cream
because
that's
how
much
stewards
I
I
enjoy
you
know.
After
this
meeting,
I'm
gonna
go
eat
some
stewards
ice
cream,
because
that's
how
how
you
know
how
how
how
much
this
meeting
can
can
be
a
pleasant
experience.
D
We
need
to
be
fair
to
the
neighbors
in
our
community
and
I
don't
like
this
any
more
than
anybody
else,
and
I
wish
we
weren't
put
in
this
position
and
I
agree
completely
with
councilwoman
fo
she's
completely
correct
usdl
has
put
us
in
this
position.
The
planning
department
has
put
us
in
this
position
and
they've,
given
us
no
option,
but
this
at
the
planning
committee.
D
I
asked
what
other
options
can
we
do
so
we
can
try
to
bring
it
back
to
how
it
was
before
prior
to
the
usdo
and
they
didn't
have
any
alternative
options
for
us.
So
I'm
going
to
support
this,
I
I
I'm
doing
it
not
not
with
a
a
open
open
heart.
I
I'm
doing
it
because
I
feel
we
have
to
be
fair
to
the
neighbors.
We
have
to
be
fair
to
those
individuals
who
did
not
buy,
who
did
not
think
they
were
moving
into
mixed
mixed
use.
A
Yes,
can
you
hear
me,
mr
president,
you
can't
okay
yeah,
so
I
will
be
voting
no
on
this.
My
my
problem
is
that
stewards,
this
all
for
as
much
as
folks
are
saying
it's
not
about
stewards,
everybody
mentions
stewards
and,
and
so
it
so
it's
it's
it's
again
that
I
have
taxpayers
in
my
area.
That
would
love
for
stewards
to
be
there
in
order
to
you
know,
take
some
of
the
tax
burden
off
of
them.
That's
one!
A
Those
houses
are
as
close
to
colvin
avenue,
as
as
they
are
rosemont
and
I'd
argue.
The
argument
folks
are
making
that
that
line
that
that
that
planning
drew
in
in
and
doing
this
to
me,
it's
a
lot.
It's
logical.
I
mean
it
almost.
If
they
did
draw
the
line
right
out
to
washington
avenue,
it
would
have
kind
of
created
a
carve
out
with
those
two
houses
in
it,
which
may
have
prevented
a
perfectly
square
lot
to
develop
on.
A
I
and
I'd
argue,
with
the
exception
of
those
two
houses,
the
the
whole
block-
abuts
commercial
property.
I
mean,
albeit
some
parking
lots,
but
it's
already
there
they're
actually
in
the
minority
they're
the
two
houses
that
are
there
at
the
end
of
the
block,
and
also
it's
washington,
avenue,
they're
right
next
to
washington
avenue.
That's
that's
a
multi-lane
street
with
with
the
traffic
flowing
there.
A
U
I
have
to
typically
side
with
the
residents
who
actually
live
there
and
who
actually
spend
their
their
every
waking
moment
in
that
that
place,
because,
as
some
of
the
council
members
mentioned
previously,
that
you
know
when
they
invested
in
this
piece
of
property
when
they
invested
in
their
home,
they
invested
it
in
their
home
with
in
context
of
what
the
existing
space
was
and
where
they
invested.
So
I
will
be
voting
yes
on.
E
E
E
J
E
O
K
K
They
insisted
on
eight
bays
for
selling
gasoline,
had
they
limited
their
their
land
to,
let's
say
a
convenience
store
such
as
some
of
the
ones
that
they've
closed
in
albany,
like
the
one
on
morton
avenue.
Had
they
been
seeking
a
true
walkable
location
as
a
convenience
store,
it
would
have
passed.
The
board,
I
believe,
would
have
passed
it
from
everything
that
they
said
and
it
would
have
provided
sufficient
separation
space
from
the
other
residential
properties,
but
this
was
definitely
a
project
not
designed
for
walkability.
K
This
was
a
project
designed
for
cars
and
lots
of
them,
and
the
stewards
folks
admitted
that
now
we're
not
talking
about
well,
we
may
be
talking
about
few
stewards,
because
we
don't
know
whether
they're
going
to
appeal
the
board's
decision
and
be
right
back
here
wanting
to
do
it
all
over
again.
That
may
very
well
happen,
but
whether
it's
stewards
or
whether
it's
somebody
else,
I
think
the
neighbors
had
a
very
legitimate
concern
and
some
of
the
lucy
you
were
wrong.
K
V
K
That
currently
is
in
that
whole
strip
of
washington
avenue,
but
you
know,
I
think,
to
paint
with
one
brush
one
broad
negative
nimby
brush
that
everybody
who
questions
development
is
nimby
is
unfair
and
unwise,
because
not
all
development
is
necessary.
Good,
as
we
know
very
well,
because
we
have
a
developer,
who
wants
to
take
a
chunk
of
whistling
hills
park
and
that's
damn
wrong.
That's
not
good,
in
fact
that
defeats
the
whole
purpose
of
enhancing
neighborhoods
and
making
them
walkable.
K
So
I
think
every
project
deserves
to
rise
or
fall
on
its
own
merits,
and
I
think
it's
very
bad,
very
bad
to
paint
as
nimby
to
paint
with
a
broad
negative
brush.
Everybody
who
considered
just
folk
on
this
one
project
that
they're
anti-walkable
albany
or
that
they
have
to
be
nimby,
or
they
wouldn't
have
said
that
I
think
they
spoke
honestly
and
I
think
they
spoke
well,
and
I
agree
with
them
that
I
think
it
was
a
mistake
that
these
properties,
which
have
always
in
fact
looked
residential,
got
painted
into
the
mixed-use
neighborhood
center.
K
K
K
I
appreciate
people
who
have
different
opinions,
that's
the
nature
of
being
a
council
and
having
open
discussions,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
honest
and
we
can't
say
that.
Well,
damn
it,
these
people
are
being
nimby;
they
always
oppose
development,
they
do
not
we
and
that
it's
been
mixed
use
for
30
years,
which
it
has
not
been
and
in
fact
even
the
owner
didn't
realize
the
potential
consequences
that
this
that
disowning
change
has
for
him.
K
I
mean
we
have
a
development
on
calvin
avenue
which,
as
you
know,
from
the
letter
that
was
sent
to
chris
chris
spencer,
they
were
passing
waivers
galore
and
you
know,
will
we
say
that
we're
just
simply
anti-development
anti-walkable,
because
we
want
to
keep
our
park
apart
or
because
we
want
to
keep
green
space.
We
want
to
keep
our
landscaping
buffering
and
screening
as
landscaping
buffering
and
screening,
not
as
somebody's
roof.
K
K
O
You
thank
you,
mr
o'brien.
If
anybody
saw
me
chuckle,
forgive
me.
I
wasn't
like
I've
been
going
being
frozen
in
and
out
this
whole
time.
So,
if
I
get
frozen,
mr
kimbrough
will
take
over
first
time.
We've
ever
had
this
issue
and
being
on
a
council
meet,
but
with
that
being
said,
can
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
S
P
P
E
P
E
P
I
Q
P
U
L
Just
a
point
of
information
for
everybody,
I
was
going
up
the
north
way
today
and
the
first
mural
is
is
up
on
the
the
first
side
of
the
bridge
going
north
and
it
looks
pretty.
I
don't
know
if
they
put
color
in
it
or
whatever.
It
just
looks
like
carving
into
concrete
right
now,
but
it's
going
to
be
pretty
nice.
I
think
I'm
glad
things
worked
out.
M
J
A
P
K
Yes,
this
has
become
important
because
the
planning
board
recently
issued
a
decision
that
would
allow
a
private
developer
to
have
access
directly
onto
anthony
street
and
the
rationale
that
was
given
to
the
planning
board
by
by
dan
herzberg.
He
was
the
only
expert
was
that
it
years
ago
was
marked
out
as
a
right
away
for
a
city
street.
K
In
fact,
the
whole
park
was
marked
out
as
a
right-of-way
for
for
a
city
street,
but
the
way
the
park
progressed,
it
was
developed
on
the
western
side.
First,
as
a
little
league
in
the
1960s
and
in
1974
was
developed
on
the
eastern
side,
with
an
ordinance
of
the
council
appropriating
a
significant
sum
of
money
to
design
the
eastern
side
of
the
park,
the
tennis
courts,
the
playground,
the
pool
and
the
pathways
the
parking
lot
and
pave
an
entrance
into
the
park
from
carbon
avenue.
K
Now,
subsequent
to
the
planning
board's
decision.
You
know
this
whole
issue
was
raised
with
chris
spencer.
He
kind
of
summarily
dismissed
it.
Hyde
clark
wrote
a
very
detailed
brief.
The
legal
brief,
having
shown
the
research
that,
at
least
in
1974
and
even
in
actions
afterwards
taken
by
the
council,
it
appears
the
council
always
intended
that
entrance
to
be
a
part.
In
fact,
it
never
bore
a
street
sign.
It
just
bears
a
park
sign
and
that's
the
only
the
dead
ends
right
in
the
park,
so
we
felt
it
was
pretty
significant.
K
So
I'm
asking
support
on
this.
It
may
happen
that
we
don't
have
a
lawsuit,
because
since
we
since
hyde
has
been
vigorously
pursuing,
this
corp
council
has
started
to
talk
with
us,
mainly
the
upper
washington,
avenue,
neighborhood
association,
and
we
may
come
to
a
settlement
both
on
the
park,
alienation
and
on
whether
they
violated
their
authority
in
determining
that
a
green
roof
constitutes
landscaping,
buffering
and
screening
and
by
the
way
they
never.
K
O
J
K
E
Q
L
J
J
J
J
This
resolution
also
calls
for
the
pet
african
flag,
which
was
designed
and
represented
the
people
of
africa
diaspora
and,
as
one
scholar
put
it,
to
symbolize
black
freedom,
simply
the
black,
the
african
flag.
Colors
each
have
symbols
that
have
meanings:
red
stood
for
the
blood,
both
the
blood
shed
by
african-americans
who
died
in
their
fight
for
liberation,
and
they
shared
blood
of
african
people.
J
J
Mr
president,
black
history
month
is
a
time
not
just
to
celebrate
the
past,
but
we
also
have
to
look
at
what
we
are
doing
for
african
americans
and
are
we
doing
all?
We
can
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
living
and
enjoying
the
prosperity
that
we're
we
have
witnessed
over
the
years
and
continue
to
witness
you
know
in
these
times.
Mr
president,
I've
been
thinking
about
jackie
robinson,
and
you
know
you
think
about
jackie
robinson.
He
wasn't
asking
for
to
be
treated
better.
J
J
Q
O
O
L
F
P
K
M
Q
E
P
E
U
F
F
So
you
know,
I
think,
we're
doing
a
good
job
overall
with
our
removing
snow
from
our
streets
for
automobiles.
But
I
think
we
need
to
do
this.
You
know
there
needs
to
be
equity
and
you
need
to
start
addressing
doing
a
better
job,
addressing
what
we're
doing
for
our
sidewalks.
So
I
brought
this
introduced
a
resolution
last
year
and
the
department
general
services
started.
F
Looking
at
it,
I
I
took
a
look
at
did
a
little
research
and
found
that
a
lot
of
our
our
cities
in
north
more
northern
climate
are
faced
with
this.
You
know
we
want
walkable.
Neighborhoods
people
come
to
the
city
because
they
can
they
have
these.
They
can
go
up
the
street
to
the
the
bank
or
the
whatever
the
restaurants
and
so
on,
but
you
get
it's
got
to
be
walkable
the
entire
year.
F
If
you
really
want
to
hold
on
to
folks-
and
you
know
to
live
here
so
they're
taking
a
more
serious
look
at
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
cities
are
doing
the
same.
There's
pilot
projects
where
the
city
has
teamed
up
with
syracuse,
for
example,
has
teamed
up
with
their
local
transportation
authority
like
our
cdtc
to
come
up
with.
F
You
know
an
area
of
high
use,
pedestrian
walkways,
and
maybe
con
contracting
out
with
a
private
contractor
to
do
the
plowing
of
the
sidewalks
and
and
cities
across
the
country
in
these
northern
climates
are
looking
at
different
ideas
about
how
to
address
this.
So
I'm
I'm
really
pleased
our
our
dgs
is
bidding
out,
as
mike
said
earlier.
F
I
guess
it's
doing
a
request
for
application
of
40
potential
snow
contractors
and
also
looking
at
equipment.
So
it's
something
I
think
we
all
have
to
continue
to
have
conversations
about
and
figure
out.
You
know
these
things
are
so
expensive,
where's
the
money
going
to
come
from
how
how?
How
can
we
make
this
happen,
but
it
is
something
we're
looking
at
and
I
really
appreciate
everybody's
support
on
this
issue.
M
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
president.
I
appreciate
it
yeah.
I
I
definitely
support
this.
You
know
I
can't
bypass
a
reason
to
say
I
wish
we
had
sidewalks
up
by
me,
so
I
could
keep
them
shoveled
for
for
my
neighbors.
Just
to
let
you
know,
I
mean
I
have
a
snowblower
and
I
have
a
little
backhoe
when
these,
when
this
bad
snow
hit,
I
dug
out
all
the
old,
the
elderly
people
in
my
neighborhood's
driveway
along
my
block.
When
I
say
neighborhood
I
should
say
my
immediate
block.
E
M
Across
from
the
school,
where
I
can't
walk
my
son
and
I
can't
walk
and
get
an
ice
cream
cone
with
him,
you
know
especially
this
time
of
year,
because
the
snowplow
will
come
and
it'll
get
one
lane
in
one
lane,
isn't
enough
to
walk
and
avoid
getting
hit
by
a
car.
It's
just
you
know
the
inequity
of
it.
It
is
bothersome.
I
mean
the
mayor's
office
has
said
that
they're
going
to
do
something,
maybe
in
four
or
five
years-
and
I
hope
I
live
long
enough
to
see
it
so.
J
Thank
you,
mr
president.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
of
this
resolution.
I
believe
that,
as
common
council
members,
one
of
the
things
that
I
hear
is
quality
of
life
issues
right
as
much
as
people
like
to
say,
you
know,
taxes
and
public
safety,
one
of
the
things
that
people
want
quality
of
life,
whether
it's
snow
removal
from
the
roads,
snow,
removal
from
the
sidewalk.
Those
things
are
something
that's
always
on
the
back
of
my
constituent's
mind,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
introducing
this
resolution,
but.
L
J
P
F
P
F
V
V
V
So
so
one
of
the
people
commenting
was
talking
about
my
having
or
maybe
other
people
having
issues
with
the
application
of
the
usdo
is
written
and
that's
not
that's
not
the
issue.
For
me,
the
issue
is,
I
want
it
applied
equally
equitably
across
the
board
to
all
developments
across
the
city
and
their
have
been
some
issues
that
I
have
raised,
for
which
there
has
not
been
an
adequate
response
with
regard
to
the
legality
of
some
of
the
proposals.
V
Some
of
the
projects
that
have
been
approved,
it's
very
important,
to
have
a
board
that
is
actively
looking
at
applying
the
law
equitably
and
listening
to
residents,
concerns
about
it
and
more
than
just
scratching
the
surface,
but
really
digging
in
and
looking
at
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
raised
and
not
necessarily
on
a
discretionary
level.
Although
that
there
is
some
discretion
with
the
planning
board,
but
also
on
a
real
practical
legal
basis
as
to
whether
or
not
projects
are
meeting
the
standards
that
this
body
has
adopted.
V
V
V
We
need
to
ask
those
questions
and
the
planning
board
needs
to
be
asking
those
kinds
of
detailed
questions
in
addition
to
having
about
15
substantive
changes,
changes
in
content
that
we
were
not
told
about
that
were
not
disclosed
to
us.
There's
about
20
to
30
type,
continuing
typographical
errors
and
citation
errors
in
the
documents
that
we've
been
provide.
V
V
V
We
have
to
do
our
job
in
as
arduous
as
it
has
been
in
my
spending
over
40
hours,
in
reviewing
that
350
page
document
line
by
line
comparing
it
to
what
we
passed,
making
sure
that
there
are
no
content
changes
without
us
being
aware
of
them.
My
issue
is
not
that
there
should
be
no
content
changes,
but
that
we
know
what
the
content
changes
are
and
that
is
fully
disclosed
before
we
take
any
action
on
any
kind
of
document.
V
V
V
V
I
do
need
to
leave
this
meeting
because
my
husband
has
a
need
to
use
my
ipad
for
zoom,
but
and
he's
a
little
late
for
that,
but
I
did
feel
in
light
of
the
public
comments
that
were
made
that
I
I
need
to
make
these
kinds
of
statements.
So
people
understand
it's
not
about
nimby,
it's
not
about
this
project
or
that
project
it
is.
V
V
V
As
you
all
know,
I've
been
working
very
hard
at
moving
that
usdo
through
this
current
phase,
so
we
can
move
on
to
it
and
I
don't
I'm
not
thrilled
about
it,
but
I
don't
have
a
real
objection
to
it.
We're
having
a
dialogue
about
those
kinds
of
things
and
it's
important
to
have
that
dialogue
and
it's
important
for
people
to
be
listening
to
residents
in
the
city.
V
It's
important
for
the
common
council
and
its
role
to
be
respected
in
the
role
of
the
planning
board
to
be
understood
and
respected,
and
and
I've
appreciated
being
able
to
have
some
of
that
dialogue
with
people.
And
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
public
understands
that
there's
these
kinds
of
issues
at
play
and
we
want
we're
just
we're
just
looking
for
the
law
to
be
applied
appropriately.
H
H
H
I've
known
mr
hull
for
a
number
of
years
before
his
appointment
to
the
planning
board.
I
have
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
him
and
his
abilities,
but
I
want
to
come
back
to
again
the
council's
advise
and
consent
our
role,
and
I
think
the
planning
committee
meeting
on
these
two
appointments
was
a
good
illustration
of
why
advising
consent
or
confirmation
process
is
important
for
the
council.
H
But
when
we
come
we're
looking
at
reappointments,
it's
an
opportunity
and
it's
an
appropriate
opportunity
to
look
back
at
their
record,
how
their
service
on
on
the
board
or
the
core
commission,
to
which
they're
seeking
reappointment,
because
now
we're
looking
at
how
they
handle
that
responsibility,
and
so
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
ask
questions
about
particular
issues
or
decisions
or
how
they
may
have
applied
the
law.
And
the
question
here
is
not
applying.
H
You
know
not
it's
not
not
adhering
to
the
law,
but
I
think,
as
mr
shea
is
indicated.
Sometimes
there
are
interpretations
and
you
need
to
look
at
that
and
understand
that
and
have
that
discussion.
So
you
know,
I
think,
to
some
extent
the
the
the
two
reappointments
we're
not
expecting
some
of
the
questions
that
they
received
at
the
planning
committee
meeting
felt
it
would
be
a
routine
nice.
Just
you
know
nice
to
see
you
we're
glad
for
your
service.
H
I
know
mr
hull's
appointment.
His
term
expired,
I
believe
more
than
a
year
ago,
mr
ellis
is
also
serving
an
expired
term.
I
believe
I'm
not
sure
how
how
far
it
goes.
It
might
be
for
a
minor
period.
But
again,
I
think
this
illustrates
that
meeting
illustrated
again
the
importance
of
advising
consent.
The
council's
confirmation
authority,
confirmation
authority
and
our
ability
to
hold
members
accountable,
ask
questions,
especially
with
reappointments,
but
so
just
wanted
to
make
a
plug
for
that.
M
M
I
really
had
a
you
know,
I'm
responsible
to
the
people
who
vote
for
me
and
you
know
they
come
to
me
and
say:
what's
going
on
here,
we're
not
being
listened
to
when
the
chairman,
el
de
salvo,
came
up
even
admitted
that
public
comment
makes
no
difference
in
decisions,
and
I
think
we
were
all
shocked
when
we
heard
that
and
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
tough.
I
was
really
really
tough,
but
I
am
going
to
be
supporting
both
of
them.
I,
like
being
tough.
M
I
also
know
that
I
sat
in
a
meeting
from
six
o'clock,
almost
11
with
the
planning
board,
and
you
know
they
did
their
duty
and
that
that
was
a
long
night.
So,
yes,
I
will
be
supporting
them,
but
as
richard
says,
we
have
to
stay
on
top
of
them
and
let
them
know
that
they
do.
They
do
report
back
to
us
when
reappointment
comes
up.
Thank
you.
E
So
to
see
people
receiving
inconsistencies
with
the
scrutiny
is
troublesome
for
me,
and
sometimes
it's
hard
for
me
not
to
have
this
conversation
and
not
bring
it
up,
because
I
was,
I
was
taken
back
by
mr
ellis
having
to
go
through
that
process
again
and
and
and
just
wanted
to
go
on
record
to
say
that
I
will
be
supporting
mr
ellis
tonight,
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
Thank
you,
mr
president.
K
K
I
expect
myself
to
be
a
named
plaintiff
in
a
lawsuit
against
a
decision
that
they
rendered
on
60
carbon
avenue,
and
for
that
reason
I
think
it
would
be
a
conflict
of
me
to
vote
for
them
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
have
I'm
going
to
just
vote
present
for
tonight,
but
many
of
the
decisions.
I
commend
them
for
their
time
and
service,
and
I
wish
I
was
voting
for
you
tonight,
but
I
am
afraid
of
some
of
the
ball
back
I'll
get
in
a
lawsuit.
I
D
D
These
five
individuals
are
the
representatives
of
our
democracy
of
our
residents,
they're
the
only
individuals
that,
when
you're
looking
at
these
projects,
that
don't
depend
on
a
paycheck,
you
know
on
the
city
when
they're
moving
these
projects
forwards.
These
are
individuals
that
are
residents
that
are
giving
up
their
time
to
serve
on
this
board
and
it's
a
controversial
board.
You
can't
say
it's
not
and,
like
mr
councilman
conte
said,
I
don't
think
that
the
planning
department
properly
prepared
them.
D
J
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
president.
I
just
want
to
express
my
support
for
both
candidates,
particularly
mr
ellis,
who
have
been
responsive
he's
a
stakeholder
in
the
community.
You
know,
he's
well
respected
and
well
regarded
in
the
community
with
his
decisions
and
his
family.
As
the
council
member
representing
the
pinellas
neighborhood,
we
actually
have
a
zoning
board
committee
that
work
with
the
planning
board
and
you
know
virginia
hammond
speaks
highly
of
both
candidates.
J
P
P
F
F
L
H
Thank
you,
mr
president.
I'll
also
be
voting
in
favor
of
this
resolution
and,
as
I
indicate
I've
known
mr
hall
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
think
he's
well
qualified
to
sit
on
the
board
and
I
have
no
problem
supporting
that.
I
do
want
to
just
indicate
with
mr
desalvo's
reappointment
when
he
came
before
the
planning
committee
for
reappointment.
H
He
had.
That
was
a
very
contentious
meeting.
He
had
a
much
tougher
grilling
than
either
mr
hall
or
mr
ellis
did.
It
was,
like
you
know,
more
more
cakewalk
for
those
two
versus
what
mr
desalvo
got.
In
fact,
the
committee
moved
that
mr
de
salvo
out
without
recommendation,
in
contrast
to
a
positive
recommendation
from
both
mr
ellis
and
mr
hull,
and
when
the
full
council
commit
considered
mr
desalvo's
reappointment,
he
was
nearly
defeated,
so
he
I
think
you
know
for
the
the
brunt.
H
The
first
time
of
some
members
concerns
about
application
of
the
usdo,
but
my
memory,
mr
just
and
I
think,
mr
hallway,
because
I
think
mr
hallway
was,
on
the
other
end,
giving
some
of
the
back.
But,
as
I
recall
mr
salvo
got
one
of
the
toughest.
Probably
the
most
the
toughest
growing
of
a
reappointment
that
I
have
ever
seen
on
on
the
council,
and
you
know
so
I
just
just
wanted
to
make
that
notation
and
set
the
record
straight
in
terms
of
how
mr
salvo
was
handled.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Yeah
you
know,
as
an
older
white
guy
believe
me
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
I
do
not
look
at
in
somebody
applying
for
a
position
and
look
at
them,
like
you
know
the
color
of
the
skin,
the
nationality
or
where
they're
from
I
really
look
at
what's
inside
them,
I
try
to
dig
inside
and
see
exactly
you
know
where
they're
at
I
was
tough
on
all
of
them.
M
I
mean
I
was
really
really
tough
on
all
of
them,
and
you
know
mr
hull
made
a
comment
that
he
wants
the
city
to
be
homogenous,
where
every
neighborhood
looks
alike,
and
yet
tonight,
at
the
you
know,
when
the
mayor
was
doing
her
thing,
she
said
each
neighborhood
is
different.
Each
neighborhood
has
a
character,
so
I
I
let
mr
hull
know
that.
I
said
you
know
you're
approaching
it
like
this,
but
the
residents
in
these
different
parts
of
the
city
feel
a
different
way,
so
I'm
hoping
he
really
listened.
Will
you
know?
M
Will
he
I
don't
know?
Will
mr
ellis?
I
don't
know
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
though,
that
my
fellow
council
members,
no
I'm,
always
open.
You
can
always
talk
to
me.
If
you
have
a
problem
with
me,
just
tell
me,
and
you
know
I'll
accept
it,
and
sometimes
I
realize
that
I'm
an
idiot
then
try
to
correct
my
way.
So
thank
you.
D
E
B
N
Q
O
E
Thank
you,
mr
yes,
thank
you,
mr
president,
shanita
thomas,
the
young
lady,
that
was
a
victim
in
the
most
recent
shooting
shanita
was
a
mother
of
two
who
both
of
her
boys
were
now
grow
up
without
a
mother,
and
unfortunately,
chenida's
oldest
son
was
lost
to
gunfire
to
gun
violence,
the
losses
that
our
community
and
our
youth
are
taking,
it
you
know,
are
at
a
astronomical
number.
You
know
the
trauma
that
the
city
is
under
for
three
years.
E
You've
been
hearing
me
talk
about
the
lack
of
programming
coming
out
of
parts
of
recreation.
For
years.
You
know
years
before
this,
inter
administration,
you
heard
community
members
talking
about
the
loss
of
inner
city
football.
You
heard
people
talking
about
the
closure
of
the
livestock
nav
boys
club.
You
heard
people
complaining
about
the
closer
closing
of
livingston
middle
school.
We
have
a
a
a
situation
where
our
kids
have
been
losing
friends
and
family
members,
and
now,
as
one
of
my
colleagues
said
earlier,
they're
like
execution
style.
E
Unfortunately,
my
family
knows
about
this.
Personally,
we
lost
our
brother
27
years
ago
to
two
gentlemen
that
stood
over
him
and
fired
at
him
and
he
didn't
have
a
gun
and
27
years
ago.
An
incident
like
this
was
you
know
far,
and
you
know
it
was
a
once
in
a
lifetime
situation,
but
now
it's
becoming
normal.
I
sat
in
my
house
last
weekend
and
20
shots
were
fired
and
every
time
a
gun
is
fired.
Every
time
you
hear
about
a
gun
going
off
anybody,
that's
lost
a
loved
one
to
gun
violence.
E
It
just
puts
a
nasty
feeling
on
through
you
and
I
just
am
at
a
loss
because
as
an
advocator
for
the
youth
as
a
person
who
has
worked
with
a
lot
of
these
kids
in
our
city,
I
just
look
at
the.
I
try
to
view
what
their
lens
looks
like,
because
there's
nothing
like
what
my
lens
looked
like
when
I
was
their
age
and
as
an
advocate
as
a
person
that's
sitting
at
the
table.
E
I
just
say
you
know:
when
are
we
gonna?
Have
the
real
conversation
and
real
conversation
sounds
like
this
bell?
Reform
is
hurting
the
city
of
albany,
not
placing
some
of
our
juvenile
delinquents
is
hurting
the
city
of
albany.
The
messages
that
our
people
are
receiving
is
that
is
no
consequences
and
without
consequences
it
it.
It
dims
hope
for
for
marginalized
kids,
that
you
know
the
the
consistency
is
not
there.
E
What
do
they
have
to
look
forward
to
in
the
state
of
the
state
today?
What
did
our
kids
have
to
look
forward
to?
Because
all
you
heard
you
heard
things
about
new
residents,
you
heard
things
about
walkable
albany,
you
know,
and
and
when
I
hear
that
I've
been
walk,
you
know
my
family
didn't
have
a
car.
The
only
way
we
got
around
was
walking
and
believe
me,
we
walked
that
we
walked
to
all
parts
of
albany.
E
So
you
know
when
you
hear
walkable
albany
and
then
you
you,
you
live
in
the
lower
the
lower
end
of
of
of
the
city.
It's
a
lot
of
things
that
can
be
dr
addressed
and
they
continuously
ignored.
But
you
know
we
expect
our
kids
to
lose,
lose
lose,
lose
and
not
digress.
Our
kid.
You
know
our
after.
At
one
time,
the
city
of
albany
was
a
hotbed
for
athletes,
whether
it
be
football,
basketball,
sometimes
baseball.
E
You
know
in
the
more
recent
future
the
boxing
program.
That
was
that
we
have
at
one
time.
If
you
look
at
it,
we
have
some
of
the
top
fighters
in
the
united
states
on
many
different
levels
and
that
program
is
not
going
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
I
have
to
make
this
compelling
argument
that
it's
too
much
hurt
going
on
in
our
city
is
not
really
being
addressed.
E
E
We
have
to
have
a
presence
at
the
capitol
and
when
these
people
are
coming
to
our
city,
to
advocate
on
issues
in
different
parts
of
the
state,
we
have
to
have
a
voice
in
advocating
for
what's
going
on
here,
because
the
changes
that
they
are
instituting
on
us
are
hurting
us.
If
you
look
at
it,
our
kids
are
lost
and,
on
top
of
our
kids
being
lost,
we
have
covet
and
that
you
know
they're
they're
not
being
they're,
not
getting
the
same
education
that
they
once
were
getting.
E
So
we
have
to
factor
in
a
a
bunch
of
this
stuff.
We
have
parents
that
are
are
overloaded
with
new
issues
that
are
presented
from
kids,
not
being
able
to
attend
school
in
person,
and
I
just
say
that
shanita
thomas,
you
know
I
didn't
know
her
personally
but
I'ma
tell
you
this.
I
visit
the
softball
field,
she
was
a
participant
in
the
girls
softball
field,
a
softball
league
up
there.
E
They,
you
know
they
did
everything
together
and
so
now,
when
you
look
when
I
see
that
group,
I'm
gonna
be
missing
a
big
smile,
and
you
know
I
just
I
wanted
to
say
her
name
tonight,
because
her
family
just
went
through
this
a
couple
of
years
ago.
What
are
we,
what
message
and
what?
What
signals
are
we
gonna
send
to
that
young
man
who
lost
both
his
mother
and
his
father
in
the
last
two
years?
E
E
You
know
in
the
poll
that
the
fact
that
things
are
like
like
this
are
happening,
so
I
I
have
to
say
that
we
have
to
do
you
know
like
I
don't
know
what
we
have
to
do,
but
I
know
that
these
incidents
can't
keep
on
going
on
and
the
only
mention
of
it
is
through
the
reporting
of
the
news.
We
have
to
figure
something
out,
because
our
kids
are
hurting.
E
L
O
I
I
wish
we
had
time.
I
don't
know
if
we
had
time,
but
I
wish
we
had
a
way
to
try
to
summarize
the
95
page
piece.
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
way,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
have
time
to
do
that,
but
we
should
talk
about
that
kelly
figure
out
if
we
can
just
get
a
summary
of
the
95
piece
page,
I
don't
know.
Q
A
O
Yep,
I'm
pretty
sure,
that's
what
most
people
would
like
a
summary,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
doable,
that's
a
lot
of
staff
hours
and
we
have
two
staff
members
and
they're
overburdened
already.
So
I
know
what
people
would
want
in
the
community,
but
it
you
know
it's
definitely
tough
for
us
to
do
something
like
that.
But
mr
kimbrough,
that
being
said.