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The agenda was discussed and the City of Albany Department of General Services (DGS) presented on snow removal and emergency operations.
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Yeah,
no,
we
we
received
in
writing.
I'm
sorry.
We
received
them
writing
petitions
from
the
two
property
owners
per
the
general
cities
law.
They
met
one
of
the
prongs.
It's
either
a
majority
of
the
not
a
majority
at
least
20
percent
of
the
properties
owners
that
are
being
rezoned
or
a
portion
within
a
circle
of
100
feet
around
it.
They
met
the
prong
of
you,
know
the
property
owners
who
are
being
zoned.
So
that's
where
it
triggered
the
super
majority.
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Yeah
yeah:
this
is
pretty
important.
What
happened?
There's
a
project
on
60
carbon
avenue,
an
apartment
project,
and
it
was
heard
on
december
22nd,
the
neighborhood
association
and
myself
both
presented
the
opinion
that
all
of
anthony
street
is
part
of
westland
hills
park
and-
and
we
presented
that
and
then
as
soon
as
we
had
presented,
that
the
board
turned
to
dan
hirshberg.
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Who
said
no,
it's
not
part
of
wesley
hills
park.
The
park
ends
at
the
dog
park
and
he
had
no
documentation
to
that
effect.
But
he
stated
that,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
the
board
agreed
with
him
and
went
ahead
authorizing
this
project,
which
utilizes
anthony
street,
which
you
should
have
all
gotten
a
memo.
You
got
one
from
dan
hirshberg
on
monday
or
sunday
night
or
monday
morning,
and
then
he
got
one
from
hyde
clark
and
from
myself
disproving
that.
Actually
I
did
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
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He
went
back
and
researched
the
ordinances
in
the
1960s
and
70s,
which
created
the
park
and
the
ordinance
and
ordinance
of
1974
basically
finished
the
eastern
end
of
the
park,
the
tennis
courts,
the
pool
the
paths
and
what
later
became
to
be
known
as
anthony
street
as
an
entrance
to
the
park.
So
it's
pretty
well
decided
now,
on
the
basis
of
the
ordinances
that
the
council
passed,
there
was
one
piece
which
we
couldn't
get
access
to,
and
that
was
the
various
contracts
that
were
left
to
do
the
landscaping
and
development
of
anthony's
dream.
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Lo
and
behold,
it
turns
out
that
mr
hertzberg
had
all
of
those.
We
didn't
they're
still
locked
up
in
archives,
and
I
guess
due
to
coven,
we
won't
get
to
see
him
until
the
summer,
but
he
tipped
his
hand
in
that
notice
that
he
said
around
to
everybody
on
sunday,
night
or
monday
morning
that
he
had
those
documents.
And
lo
and
behold,
those
documents
in
his
possession
demonstrate
that
there
was
funding
contracted
for
the
development
of
anthony
street
as
part
of
western
hills
park.
D
Extension
that
would
have
run
right
up
through
the
middle
of
the
park,
and
it
would
be
preposterous
to
assume
that
merely
because
it
was
once
mapped
out
a
right-of-way
for
a
road
that,
with
the
whole
construction
of
wessel
hills
park
and
specific
money
authorized
by
the
council,
to
then
develop
it
as
an
entrance
to
the
park.
It
is
absurd
to
say
that,
because
it
once
appeared
on
maps
as
a
right-of-way
for
a
road
that
it
was
never
intended
to
be
part
of
the
park.
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This
is
very
critical
because
park,
alienation
invites
a
home
rule,
needs
a
home
rule
message
of
the
council,
an
act
of
two
legislatures
and
the
signature
of
the
governor
and
nevertheless,
the
planning
board,
based
on
what
mr
hertzberg
misrepresented
to
them,
went
ahead
authorizing
at
commercial
access
to
westland
hills
park.
As
part
of
this
development-
and
we
asked
for
well
several
things-
happened.
Council
leadership
sent
a
letter
to
chris
spencer
into
the
mayor
on
january
12th,
asking
them
to
look
at
this
situation.
We've
heard
nothing
back.
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I
responded
to
mr
hertzberg's
note,
but
hyde
wrote
a
marvelous
well-researched
memo
clearly
establishing
that
it
is
part
of
the
park
and
this
memo
the
the
state
controller,
has
the
authority
to
make
determinations
regarding
park
alienation,
whether
a
park
alienation
was
required
or
not.
So
that's
what
this
resolution
is
we're
under
the
gun,
because
this,
if
there's
going
to
be
an
article
78
filed
against
the
planning
board,
it's
got
to
be
filed
by
february
4th
so
hyde.
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I
mean
this.
Memorandum
constitutes
the
basis
for
section
article
78,
but
hyde.
Writes
it
for
settlement
purposes.
Only
send
it
to
the
mayor,
send
it
to
everybody
that
mr
hertzberg
had
sent
his
emails
to
and
dave
gallon
at
8
a.m.
This
morning
responded
that
he
received
it
and
that
he
would
quote
be
getting
back
to
high
quote
soon
hasn't
happened
yet.
D
This
resolution
over
to
the
state
controller,
to
make
a
determination
if
the
city's
not
able
to
make
that
determination
itself
and,
in
the
meantime
hold
off,
which
is
what
was
requested
in
the
january
12
unanswered
letter
that
they
would
hold
off
issuing
any
permits
to
go
forward
with
that
apartment
house
having
a
direct
access
to
westwood
hills
park.
I
think
it's
very
important.
I
think
it
goes
to
the
heart
of
what
parks
are.
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It
goes
to
the
heart
of
what
the
planning
board
is
supposed
to
do,
and,
quite
frankly,
the
bottom
line
is,
I
think
there
has
been
much
too
close.
I
would
even
call
it
incestuous
relationship
between
developers
and
our
planning
department.
We
saw
that
in
the
plasma
issue
and
we're
seeing
it
now
in
the
wholesale
surrender
of
a
park
for
the
purpose
of
a
commercial
development.
So
I.
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But
I
think
when
an
honest
look
is
taken
at
whether
anthony
street
is
part
of
the
park.
The
clear
intent
of
the
1974
ordinance
that
the
council
passed
is
that
it
is
and
that
all
the
contracts
that
we
didn't
have
a
copy
of,
but
the
developers
engineer
did
clearly
show
that
that
was
part
of
the
project
for
the
development
of
the
eastern
portion
of
wessel
hills
park.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
just
since
mr
o'brien
wants
to
move
ahead
with
this,
are
members
comfortable
with
moving
ahead
with
with
a
resolution
for
for
monday
without
the
committee?
Okay,
all
right,
you,
yes!
No!
I
I'm
I'm
some
folks
are
not
yes,
yes,
all
right!
Okay,
yeah,
all
right,
so
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
that
next
resolution
introduced
by
mr
inani's
resolution,
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21r,
it's
for
the
pan,
raising
the
pan
african
flag.
You
want
to
say
anything,
mr
inani.
It's
pretty
self-explanatory!.
J
That
is
correct,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
in
these
times
that
we're
in,
I
think,
a
little
over
the
past
couple
of
months
and
years.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
put
black
history
at
the
forefront
of
our
national
conversations
and
let
individuals,
neighbors
and
individuals
in
the
state
know
the
historical
impacts
that
african
americans
have
made
in
our
city,
our
state
and
also
across
the
country,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
the
sponsors
of
this
resolution
also.
Thank
you.
Thank.
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The
finance
authority
is
ready
to
do
a
bond
resolution
tomorrow
at
a
finance
authority
meeting
at
8
o'clock
tomorrow,
and
we
have
a
team
of
bond
council
and
and
other
folks
all
ready
to
sell
bonds
at
the
end
of
february,
so
that
we
can
continue
our
projects.
We
we
have
somewhat
of
a
different
situation
in
the
water
water
board
and
water
department
this
year
and
that,
due
to
some
revenues
being
down
some
of
the
things
that
we're
financing,
we
would
normally
do
out
of
annual
revenues.
L
But
we've
got
some
projects
that
we
want
to
go
ahead
with
that
that
we
want
to
do
with
this
bonding.
Also,
there
are
projects
that
we
can't
fund
under
efc
financing.
Most
of
what
we've
been
trying
to
do
in
recent
years
has
been
efc.
Financing
we've
also
been
trying
to
take
advantage
of
water
infrastructure
improvements,
grant
funding
both
for
the
clean
water
revolving
fund
and
the
drinking
water
revolving
fund,
and
some
of
the
improvements
that
we're
doing
can't
be
funded
through
that
wouldn't
be
eligible
for
revolving
fund.
L
There's
work
at
35,
erie
boulevard
and
there's
work
at
the
alcove
that
wouldn't
be
eligible
and
right
now
is
a
good
time
to
do
the
financing,
because
interest
rates
are
low.
So
so
that's
the
that's
the
situation.
So
then,
the
the
new
part
is
about
25
million
dollars.
It
includes
water
main
work
and
includes
some
water
treatment
plant
work.
It
includes
some
sewer
rehabilitation
kind
of
projects
throughout
the
city.
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Say
at
all,
or
both
yeah
we
do.
We
are
those
are
decisions
we
all
make
together.
As
far
as
the
you're
talk,
I
think
you're
talking
about
the
difference
between
the
branding
and
the
seal,
the
seal
hasn't
changed,
that's
still
what
it
is
and
and
a
part
of
our
our
official
documents,
but
the
branding
is
a
little
bit
different
and,
as
you
can
see
from
recent
correspondence,
michelle
sent
some
stuff
out
and
there
was
and
and
actually
didn't.
A
E
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G
There's
still
going
to
be
a
broader
conversation
about
all
of
this.
I
think
that
this
was
a
temporary
city-wide
shift
and
we
did
not
have
that.
This
was
not
a
consultation
with
us,
but
to
kind
of
stick
with
the
city's
brand.
That's
on
the
website
until
because
there
is
an
overall
process
that
is
going
to
happen
with
the
logo,
the
flag,
everything.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
going
to
discuss
assiduity
either,
maybe
think
about
using
a
word
that
more
people
know
what
it
means.
A
J
I
was
just
going
to
say
really
quick,
I
don't
mind
acid
duty.
Actually
it
was
the
bonus
word
for
some
of
my
kids
doing,
spelling
quiz,
but
anyway,
as
many
of
you
are
aware,
we
are
starting
the
conversation
as
it
relates
to
the
flag
and
I'm
gonna
send
an
email
to
colleagues.
We're
gonna,
try
to
put
a
committee
together,
so
anyone
that
is
interested
in
being
part
of
that
committee,
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out,
but
yeah,
just
wanna
keep
put
it
on
your
radar.
Thank
you.
J
Executive
committee,
it's
going
to
be,
I
will
send
an
email
and
I'll
explain
everything
and
you
know
make
sure
that
it
will
be
part
of
the
leadership
of
everyone
on
the
council.
I'm
not
gonna
leave
anyone
in
the
dark
time.
Everyone-
whoever
wants
to
be
part
of
the
committee
you're
more
than
welcome
so
I'll-
send
an
email
out
to
discuss
it.
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J
P
P
P
P
We
were
down
24
of
our
staff,
that's
a
mix
between
kovid
and
cdl
drivers
that
it's
a
shortage
and
nationwide
ride-out
conditions
for
miles
resulting
in
our
employees,
driving
slower
for
their
safety,
reasonable
unable
to
move
quickly
as
normal
as
they
normally
would
have.
This
slows
down
significantly
in
our
progress.
P
The
men
and
women
of
dgs
worked
for
12
hours
a
day
for
nine
straight
days,
with
an
average
of
108
hours
per
employee
for
those
days.
So
they
really
did
all
this
during
a
global
pandemic
and
one
week
before
christmas,
as
I
said
before,
so
it
was
a
tremendous
cost,
sacrifice:
sweat
equity
that
our
men
and
women
in
our
department
put
together,
which
the
shows
of
dedication
to
the
city
and
to
their
job
our
contractors
cost.
Because
again
we
were
short
24.
We
had
to
hire
more
contractors
than
normally
we
would.
P
P
The
amount
was
built
was
about
eleven
thousand
dollars,
which
will
we
get
we
get
back
when
the
fines
and
or
are
reimbursed
to
us.
So
this
was
a
neutral
balance
budget
for
that
that,
just
to
keep
clear
these
people,
this
man
would
have
been
an
extra
burden
on
us.
If
we
had
to
do
this
in-house,
so
we
chose
to
hire
the
company.
So
with
that.
So
now
you
have
a
better
picture
of
what
the
storm
entails.
I'll
open
up
the
questions
to
anyone
that
has.
D
Q
So
when
you
say
mike,
when
you
say
budgeted,
do
you
mean
for
snow
contractors
or
for
you
know,
because
it's
all
it's
all
relevant,
so
snow
contractors
we
budgeted
about
274
thousand
dollars,
there's
no
contractors,
but
then
another
700
and
change
for
salt
and
for
things
like
that
and
then
you
know
and
then
again
our
workers
and
everything
that
you
know
we
brought
in
the
other
amounts
that
we
brought
in.
That
is
an
all-in
number
which
is
fuel
and
the
workers
that
comes
from
other
budget
lines
as
well.
D
D
P
P
The
other
issue
was
the
cdl
problem
and-
and
I
just
participated
this
morning
in
a
conference
with
the
industry,
trucking
industry
and
and
again
it
seems
to
be
a
nationwide
problem
with
people
getting
cdl
driver
licenses.
They
are
estimating
roughly
about
66,
000
vacancies
or
shortfalls.
In
that
end,
in
a
trucking
industry,
we
have
asked
anyone
that
we
could
possibly
have
asked
to
provide
us
with
employees
with
cdls
and
they're
all
they're
on
we're
all
in
the
same
boat.
Q
P
Some
other
industry
other
than
the
trucking
industry,
but
as
of
as
of
today,
as
my
fact,
I
have
the
gentleman's
name
here,
and
I
quote
from
him.
It
says
the
driver
shortage
is
a
driving
curry,
environment,
marketing,
size
leader.
They
say
the
trucking
industry,
the
trucking
industry
has
about
80
000
fewer
available
drivers
compared
to
a
year
ago.
H
P
Out,
instead
of
being
out
on
the
road,
he
said,
the
grant
will
allow
the
the
the
problem
is
also
that
there's
people
there
are
going
more
of
an
independent
to
buying
their
own
trucks,
to
make
more
money
and
becoming
independent
drivers.
So
there's
an
industry
nationwide
shortage
of
about
80
000..
So
it's
a
problem
and
we
decided
covid,
we
lost,
we
lost
26
percent
of
our
force.
D
P
P
P
I
hope-
and
I
know
the
commissioner
johnson
recreation
and
workforce
we're
looking
to
do
an
april
class.
This
is
gonna,
be
a
60-hour,
certified
class
and
actually
that
will
bring
at
least
a
shot
in
the
arm
to
us
with
15
extra
people
that
have
cdl
driver
rises,
so
we're
trying
to
do
it
promoted
within
first,
but
getting
candidates.
P
And
hope
not
only
that's
an
incentive,
the
extra
pay
it
would
become
either
a
sanitation
driver
or
a
equipment
operator
later
on
it
wants
to
get
a
cdl.
It
gives
them
an
opportunity
for
advancement
within
within
the
department,
which
is
great
that
we,
like,
I
said,
I'm
15
people.
I
was
impressed
that
they're
willing
to
take
the
class.
A
I
Jill,
I
appreciate
everything
that
your
department
and
the
guys
went
through
guys
and
girls.
I
was
so
excited
about
three
days
after
the
storm
hit.
I
went
out
to
thank
a
man.
I
thought
was
a
city
employee
because
he
had
a.
I
said:
oh
you're,
a
new
heavy
duty
operator,
and
he
looked
at
me
like
what
are
you
talking
about
and
he
was
he
had
this
beautiful
piece
of
equipment-
and
I
said
well:
where
are
you
from
and
he
said,
cobra
skill
landscaping?
It
was
the
best
piece
of
equipment
I
ever
had.
I
I
Okay
on
crumb
kill
road
where
a
lot
of
older
people
live
and
that's
their
only
way
to
get
up
to
a
bus.
So
a
few
days
later
they
come
up
and
the
bridge
itself
sidewalk
was
cleared.
Okay,
they
never
came
back
okay
and
did
the
sidewalk
from
from
whatever
ohio
up
until
route
85..
You
know
when
they.
Finally
came
and
did
it
I
was
helping
a
elderly
lady
go
up
the
street
with
her
walker.
I
was
driving.
I
pulled
over
put
my
four-way
flashers
on.
She
was
stuck.
So
I
s
just
a
coincidence.
I
P
I
Of
the
truck
no
and-
and
this
was
monday-
and
that
truck
next
thing
I
know
I
was
going
coming
back
out
and
there
were
about
five
trucks.
There
were
four
men,
there
was
a
yellow
truck,
was
green
pickup
trucks
and
they
were
look
like
they're
all
shoveling
and
scraping
the
whole
sidewalk,
but
it
was,
it
was
dangerous.
It
was
very
dangerous
for
these
people.
Next.
Q
I
I
R
E
I
Just
can't
it
can't
happen
to
elderly
like
that
they
cut
their
buses.
Okay,
they
go
there
twice
a
day
and
some
of
them
try
to
walk
up
from
buckingham
or
crump
kilton
to
scotland
avenue.
But
what
walker
is
the
other
day
she
was
walking
in
the
street?
That's
not
right!
So
I
I
like
that
taken
care
of
and
make
sure
you
know
one
one,
one
crew
thinks
that's
dgs
is
doing
it
and
some
things
parks
doing
it.
There's
a
mix
up
there.
Somehow.
C
Well,
thank
you
and
you
know,
I
appreciate
the
work
that
employees
did
and
I
understand
the
challenges
this
particular
storm,
etc.
I
just
want
to
get
a
couple
of
things
a
little
bit
of
a
better
understanding
of
when
we
say
total
city
costs.
If
there
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
precise
breakout
of
what
that
is,
you
did
you
mentioned
salt
over
time
I
mean
it's
a
lot
of
money.
The
one
point
the
952
thousand.
C
Was
there
a
a
higher
non-compliance
rate
with
this
storm
than
you've
seen
in
previous
ones,
and
one
of
the
my
base.
My
question
is,
you
know
I
did
notice
or
saw
numerous
areas
where
the
plowing
was
not
really
complete,
because
vehicles
weren't
moved
they
weren't
towed
and
I'm
wondering
to
what
extent
we
had-
and
I
don't
know
what
extent
people
understood
the
rules,
because
we
always
have
an
issue
every
year,
but
to
what
extent
was
difficulty
in
compliance
and
the
inability,
maybe
to
tow
a
factor
in
some
of
the
issues.
C
As
far
as
you
know
getting
streets
opened
up,
I
mean
I
had
certain
streets
where
they
you
just
couldn't
the
the
street
wasn't
cloud
enough,
so
that
people
could
even
move
their
car
out
and
when
they're
digging
out
they're
throwing
more
snow
into
the
middle
of
the
street,
which
makes
it
even
more
difficult
to
to
to
move.
And
so
areas,
like
you
know,
will
it
was
a
particular
problem.
C
Streets
in
park
south
were
a
particular
problem
which
was
just
a
mess,
and
you
could
see
people
just
couldn't
move
traffic
was
backing
up
and
if
you
know
this
was
before
the
snow,
emergency
actually
even
took
effect
and
then,
after
it
took
effect,
vehicles
that
didn't
move
that
would
they
were
never
cleared
out,
were
impeding
snow
removal
efforts.
So
the
question
comes
down
to
levels
of
compliance
and
to
what
extent
we
have
the
ability
to
to
tow
where
necessary
was
that
a
factor.
R
R
So
they
were,
they
were
constantly
about
an
hour
in
time
ahead
of
us.
When
I
would
skip
ahead.
There
was
definitely
quite
a
bit
of
non-compliance
in
in
neighborhoods.
I
mean
I
can't
give
you
a
number
again,
it's
just
anecdotal,
but
I
know
we
were
definitely
impeded.
I
know
in
one
event
we're
stopped
for
close
to
three
hours
in
removal
because
resident
decided
they
wanted
to
protest
and
parked
their
vehicle
in
front
of
our
in
front
of
our
operation.
P
Effectiveness,
one
of
the
factor
is
that
because
of
kobe
people
working
from
home,
so
there's
a
lot
of
non-moving
cars
anymore.
We
saw
a
tremendous
increase.
Even
today
we
had
an
increase
because
people
working
from
home
that
they're
not
moving
the
car
they're
not
going
to
the
office
anymore.
So
we
had
to.
We
had
that
factor
in
as
well,
but.
A
E
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
I
wasn't
a
lot
of
hands
up,
so
I'll
try
to
be
real
fast,
guys,
I'm
a
lieutenant
with
the
united
states,
air
force,
civil
air
patrol
and
when
we
have
emergencies
like
this,
I
remember
a
hurricane
irene
and
there
was
another
one
right
before
sandy.
They
had
us
go
out
and
fly
and
photograph
problems
that
flooded
and
stuff.
So
we
were
prepared.
Okay,
we've
had
a
snowstorm,
a
big
one.
Will
we
have
another
one
in
20
years
next
year?
E
That
go
into
the
residential
areas.
One
of
the
things
I
pointed
out
in
my
questions
that
I
put
in
ahead
of
time
was
it'd,
be
nice
for
the
for
the
common
council
members
in
their
award
to
try
to
identify
medical
and
first
responders
to
make
sure
that
the
roads
to
their
houses
are
are
done,
so
they
can
get
out
and
get
to
work
if
they
have
to
go
to
saint
peter's
or
haven't
he
met
or
if
they
have
to.
You
know,
be
a
fireman
and
be
able
to
travel.
E
I
think
that's
critical
that
we
start
looking
at
ways
to
you
know
prevent
problems
from
happening
now.
You
know
the
good
antidote
is
garden
avenue.
I
had
a
nurse
living
on
garden
avenue
and
I
got
a
call.
The
neighbors
got
together
and
did
a
path
for
her
to
get
out
to
magazine
street,
and
I
mean
they
didn't
have
to
do
that,
but
they
made
a
little
path.
I
went,
and
I
took
pictures
of
it
to
me
that
was
you
know
what
it's
about.
We
have
an
emergency
happen
and
the
residents
work
together.
P
B
P
We
didn't
have
a
fire
engine
stock
we
didn't
have
enabling
stock.
We
didn't
have
police
car
stock.
There
were
some
difficulties,
some
of
the
hills
going
up.
Our
problem
was
the
volume
of
snow
was
coming
down,
so
heavy
that
we
had
to
do.
What
we
normally
do.
Two
passes
on
washington
avenue
now
took
six
passes
to
make
sure
that
it
happened.
So
you
know
the
this
is
something
that
we
are
looking
at,
because
if
you
remember
last
year
we
had
the
same
situation,
it
wasn't
26
inches
was
23
inches.
P
This
is
something
that
I
feel
it's
the
new
norm.
I
don't
know
if
it's
global
warming-
I
don't
know
if
it's
anything,
we're
looking
at
we're.
Looking
at
different
techniques,
we're
looking
at
snow
blowers,
we're
looking
at
snow
melters
we're
looking
at
you
know
we
we,
we
moved
67,
000
tons
of
of
snow.
Our
snow
dock
was
full
to
capacity.
We
we
had
no
more
place
to
put
the
snow
so
to
to
answer
your
question
about
the
emergency
workers.
P
P
The
secondary,
if
we
had
to
go
to
street
a
to
to
clear
that
up
and
then
street
z
at
the
other
end
of
town,
it
would
be
too
time
consuming
and
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
open
up
those
emergency
roads.
I
I
mean
I
know
that
some
people
here
have
workers
that
are
in
the
hospital
and
and-
and
I
mean
some
of
our
drivers-
have
their
wives-
that
are
nurses
and
they're
in
the
same
situation.
P
Those
are
my
priorities,
those
are
our
priorities,
then
we
go
into
our
secondary
street
and
then
we
go
to
our
tertiary
street
to
have
a
a
checkered
map
of
this
street
is
to
be
done
because
so
and
so
an
emergency
worker
lives
there
and
then
how
we
defined
it.
The
emergency
worker
it
becomes,
it
becomes
a
mess,
so
something
that
we
consider.
E
E
Get
hit
with
another
storm
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
see
a
loss
of
life
because
we,
if
we
did
a
little
bit
more
planning,
maybe
we
need
to
get
you
guys
more
money.
I
mean
I'll,
do
what's
necessary
to
help
you
out
and
that's
all
I'm
saying,
but
just
to
throw
up
our
arms
and
say
well.
We
can't
do
anything,
it's
nature.
Well,
no!
We
we
need
to
do
something,
and
this
is
the
new
norm
and
we'll
work
on
it.
Thank
you.
A
F
If
I
can
so
I'm
sure
that
other
people
are
going
to
address
some
of
the
other
issues
that
my
constituents
raise
when
initial
press
releases
talked
about
going
through
the
process,
commissioner,
that
you
have
talked
about,
then
it
was
also
noted
that
then,
after
all
that
was
done,
then
the
corners
would
be
cleared.
I
I
sent
photos,
I'm
wondering
if
a
staff
member
can
put
that
up.
I
just
sent
it
again.
F
If
you
could
keep
on
scrolling
through
these
pictures,
the
the
one
at
the
top
of
the
second
page
there
I
was
just
walking
by
that
again
today
and
and
people
are
shoveling
a
path
around
that,
if
you
could,
whoever
is
in
charge
scroll
through
some
more
of
the
the
document
I
don't
or
can
I
do
that?
I
don't
so
I
I'm
wondering
so.
I
have
not
seen
this
before.
F
Today,
as
I
was
walking
along
the
hackett
path
that
we
are
responsible
for.
It
was
interesting
that
apparently,
the
contractor
pulled
up
the
blade,
as
they
approached
the
str
of
the
handicap
ramp
and
there
was
actually
snow
still
on
the
the
recreational
path
along
there
in
in
certain
places,
which
was
kind
of
mysterious.
F
My
husband
pointed
it
out
to
me,
as
we
were
walking
around,
but
I'm
very
concerned
about
winding
up
with
these
huge
piles
of
snow,
and
in
this
case
it's
happening.
You
know,
apparently,
you
know
two
or
three
days
after
people
have
cleared
the
sidewalks
and
it
completely
defeats
the
purpose
of
people
having
a
walkable
albany.
The
reason
why
we
talk
about
clearing
the
corners
is
so
that
people
can
walk,
and
then
we've
created
a
barrier
for
people
to
get
from
a
clear
sidewalk
onto
the
crosswalk.
F
Q
Well,
I
think
we
can
start
by
saying
that
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
in
the
next
meeting
we're
going
to
talk
about
this,
the
sidewalk
ordinance
that
kathy
has
put
forth
after
phase
put
forth
and
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done,
that
we're
looking
to
do
to
further
that.
Currently
the
code
says
that
that
is
the
responsibility
of
the
homeowner
at
the
corner,
and
you
know
those
photos
were
probably
clearly
taken
after
well
after
the
christmas
holiday,
because
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
melted.
Q
F
F
F
Q
Q
P
P
It's,
where
do
we
put
the
snow,
the
the
second,
the
second
or
third,
cut
that
we
do
it
brings
that
spillage,
which
we
call
a
spillage
in
the
business
that
covers
that
that
corner,
it's
not
done
on
purpose.
We
don't
particularly
seek
out
handicap
corners
to
put
these
piles
in.
It
is
a
problem
we
recognize
it
committed.
N
P
N
P
To
upkeep
the
sidewalk
as
well
so
to
clear
it
once
and
say:
I'm
done,
you
know
again,
I
don't
want
to
slice
and
I
don't
want
it
yeah.
I
don't
want
it,
I
don't
want
it
just
to
get
out
of
control.
We
recognize
this
is
an
issue.
We
hear
the
people
and
we
understand
the
frustration,
but
we
have.
We
think
we
have
a
potential
solution
which
we'll
be
discussing
next
week.
F
I
did
not
experience
that
because
I
don't
have
the
dual
crosswalk:
it's
not
at
an
angle,
I'm
used
to
clearing
the
spillage
and
I
think
most
people
don't
mind
doing
that.
But
when
the
city
is
taking
specifically
taking
the
snow
from
the
street
and
putting
it
specifically
in
the
middle
of
these
sidewalks
people
are
upset
about
it.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear-
maybe
you're
not
aware
of
this,
but
it's
not
spillage.
H
H
So
my
question
is-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
was
addressed
earlier
in
the
principle
presentation,
but
is
there
a
specific
start
time
for
the
amount
of
snow
that
we're
expected
to
receive
that
dgs
goes
out
and
pre-salts
the
streets
and
some
of
the
sidewalks
according
to
the
amount
of
snowfall?
I
know
that
we
were
down
staff.
So
if
you
are
down
staff,
do
you
start
earlier
or
do
you
just
set
a
specific
time
to
start.
L
P
Started
a
practice
a
couple
of
years
ago,
which
works
well
for
our
men
and
employees,
but
we
come
in
at
least
an
hour
an
hour
and
a
half
before
sometimes
even
two
hours
before
a
prediction
of
the
storm
to
start
in
our
area
and
we
go
out
pre-salt
and
and
we
do
first,
we
do
the
problem
areas
and
non-problem
areas
which
are
the
hills,
usually
there's
a
lot
of
hills.
There's
a
lot
of
area
where.
P
L
N
P
L
P
R
R
H
R
No,
we
stagger,
we
can't
commit
all
of
our
resources
at
the
beginning
of
the
storm.
It's
especially
a
storm
that
magnitude
that
went
on
for
days.
Remember
we
had
to
clean
up
after
that,
so
we
immediately
started
with
a
staggered
shift.
So
it's
about
50
50.,
about
half
of
the
staff
is
on
days.
Half
the
staff
is.
B
P
We
have
to
follow
osha
regulations
that
we
cannot
hold
our
employees,
which
is
also
a
safety
regulation.
In
our
end,
it's
more
than
16
hours
continuous
hours
without
giving
him
at
least
a
four
to
six
hour
break.
But,
like
joe
said,
we
start
at
seven
and
then
at
that
between
seven
o'clock
and
let's
either
say
pm
or
am
there's
a
shift
change
and
that's
when
the
new
crew,
the
the
fresh
blood,
comes
in
and
continues
the
round
where
they
left
off
or
restarts
the
wrap.
P
Well,
oh
sure,
all
show
regulation
is.
It
goes
across
the
board.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
you're
full
time
part-time.
Just
today,
I
had
a
conversation
with
our
hr
department,
we're
looking
to
do
a
per
diem
where
you
get
paid
by
the
day.
Our
problem
is
that
most
of
the
snow
operation
equipment
requires
a
cdl
driver
license
and
that's
where
it
starts
all
over
again
with
the
the
vacuum
of
cdl
license.
P
26
000
pounds,
then
you're
required
we're
required
by
law
to
have
a
cdl
driver
and
there's
a
lot
of
reason
because
of
that,
because
if
the
air
brakes,
you
know
all
that
stuff
that
goes
on,
so
our
priority
is
and
when
you're
talking
about
moving
26
and
a
half
inches
of
snow,
you
need
that
heavy
equipment.
The
pickup
truck
is
not
going
to
he's
not
going
to
do
well,
it's
going
to
break
a
transmission.
It's
going
to
break
an
axle.
You
need
to
have
equipment
more
of
a
reason.
P
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
first
off
just
this
was
a
a
a
big
one
in
this
number.
It's
probably
one
of
the
biggest
storms
that
we
have
witnessed
in
the
past
20
years.
I
think
the
last
time
we
had
a
storm
like
this.
I
think
it
was
michael
jordan's
rookie
year
with
the
bulls,
but
you
know
I
want
to
thank
my
union
brothers
and
sisters
who
also
was
on
this
call.
I
want
to
appreciate
every
work
that
individually,
I
mute
it.
Okay,
my
questions
was
well.
J
Q
Q
I
can
tell
you
57
sidewalks
were
cleared
by
by
us
by
ceo
or
by
us,
and
we
build
those
property
owners,
a
total
of
a
little
over
11
000.
So
and
and
this
one
was
by
the
time
we,
you
know
we
get
out
there,
you
know,
and
we
start
working
it.
We
start
doing
it.
Then
we
had
of
course
christmas
holiday
christmas
eve.
Christmas
day.
It
melted
a
lot
of
it
melted.
So
we
did,
you
know
we
did
hit
some
of
it,
but
by
that
point
a
lot
of
it
was
was
already
gone.
Q
J
J
And
my
next
question
is
more
so
the
amount
of
overtime.
Can
anyone
just
speak
about
the
amount
of
overtime
that
was
hours
of
spent?
That
was
in
overtime
with
this
snowstorm
and
if
there's
a
way
that
maybe
moving
forward,
we
could
hire
more
staff
instead
of
paying
people
to
do
more
overtime,
because
I
think
about
it
as
a
morale
issue
right.
If
we
have
more
people
doing
overtime,
they're,
not
all
able
to
rest,
they
have
to
get
back
out
there
agitated.
J
You
know,
I
think,
sometimes
it
conflicts
with
the
work
that
they're
doing
in
the
10th
ward.
Specifically,
I
saw
one
gentleman
he
worked
like
12
hour
shifts
and
I
want
to
every
time
I
saw
him.
I
was
like
man,
you
got
to
take
me
out,
but
it
was
a
lot.
He
was
out
there
literally
six
days
straight
and
you
know
I
want
to
thank
him
for
being
out
there
for
that
amount
of
hours,
but
I
also
was
thinking
about
his
safety
and
making
sure
that
everything
was
going
well.
Q
I'll
tell
you
what
we'll
give
you
a
challenge
and
anybody
else
on
the
call
find
those
people
for
us.
Okay,
we
don't.
We
we'll
put
on
seasonals
we've
got.
We
are
looking
for
people
and
where
sergio
said
earlier
on
the
call.
It's
a
real
thing,
this,
the
stimulus,
unemployment
numbers-
are
real
people
don't
want
to
come
back
to
work
because
they're
making
more
not
working,
we're
hearing
it
from
all
kinds
of
industry
professionals.
J
So
all
right-
that's
that's
great!
I'm
going
to
speak
with
council
members
and
we're
going
to
start
like
a
a
portal
for
anyone
that
wants
to
work
here.
Damn,
for
I
mean
I'll,
speak
to
leadership
after
this
to
kind
of
send
some
type
of
resumes,
because
I
failed
to
believe
that
they're
not
there's,
not
individuals
that
wouldn't
mind
going
to
shovel.
J
N
N
P
You
know
we
need
to.
We
need
to
respect
that
and-
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
violate
like
we,
we
hired
some
extra
help,
the
retirees
we
asked
five
rectories
to
come
back
to
us,
but
we
had
to
make
sure
we
conformed
with
the
current
science
contractual
body
unit.
So
we
just
can't
go
and
say
we're
paying
you
50
to
go
out
there
while
a.
P
J
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
just
commend
you
for
the
per
diem
suggestion
with
hr.
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
solve
all
the
problems
that
we
face
as
a
city,
but
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
I
want
to
thank
all
your
staff
and
also
the
workers
at
dgs
for
what
they
do
for
our
city.
J
Q
J
S
S
S
P
P
P
That
were
that
were
that
was
falling
and
that
had
fallen.
It
slows
us
down
tremendously
compound
that,
with
with
buses
being
stuck
compound,
that
with
non-conforming
not
complying
resident,
it
slowed
us
down
tremendously.
So,
yes,
we
do
tell
the
police
department.
These
are
the
streets
that
we
intend
to
be
in.
Unfortunately,
during
the
storm.
We
could
not
get
there
by
the
time
that
that
was
addressed
but
joe
you
wanna
wanna.
Add
to
that.
You.
R
Know
just
the
sheer
volume
slowed
us
down
significantly.
We
had
every
piece
of
equipment
running
that
we
could
we
hired.
We
had
over
a
hundred
trucks,
private
trucks
hired
to
assist
us.
Normally,
we
could
do
this
to
a
snow
emergency
in
48
hours.
It
actually
took
us
six
days
to
get
all
the
way
through.
So
it's
it.
It
was
a
lot
of
snow
to
move.
P
P
I
P
Emergency,
but
I
do
understand
that
that
that
the
frustration
with
the
with
the
residents
that
assumed
that
we
were
going
to
be
there
and
we
wanted
to
be
there
and
the
police
department
again
assumed
that
we,
because
normally
we
would
have
been
there.
But
it
slows
us
down
tremendously
that
that,
unfortunately,
those
individuals
got
tickets.
S
S
P
S
I'm
only
telling
you
I
got
the
calls
right
granted.
I
know
that
you
know
the
major
streets
need
to
be
plowed
first.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
dgs
did
a
good
job
with
this
storm
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
but
we
had
a
truck
that
came
down
sheridan.
We
did
a
good
job
over
here
at
sherman
avenue
with
our
residents.
S
M
Okay,
I
think
I'm
next
joyce.
That
is
really
neat
that
you
have
your
cdl
license.
So
I
first
I
want
to
start
by
saying
thank
you
to
all
the
staff
that
worked
on
this
storm.
I
understand
all
the
challenges
that
you
had
and
I
you
know
we
do
have
to
wonder
about
climate
change,
and
if
this
is,
you
know
the
kind
of
snowstorm
we're
going
to
see
more
free,
frequently
and
I'm
glad
you're
thinking
of
ways
to
address
this
kind
of
these
kind
of
snowstorms.
M
So
I
I
wonder
if
there
are
some
new
systems
that
you
use,
you
know
that
you'd
like
to
put
in
place
so
that
there's
better
communication
between
law
enforcement
and
and
dgs
as
far
as
where
we
need
the
towing
and
also
I
noticed
on
when
I
was
looking
for
what
they're
doing
in
some
of
the
other
cities
with
regards
to
snow
on
sidewalks
syracuse
puts
a
map
online
as
to
where
they
have
plowed.
So
it's
something
residents
can
look
at
to
see
what
streets
have
been
plowed.
M
You
know
it's
one
of
those
things,
just
a
greater
transparency
type
of
thing,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
considered
something
along
those
lines.
But
just
you
know
how
we
were
talking
about.
You
can't
get
down
narrow
streets
a
lot
of
times,
because
people
haven't
been
able
to
move
their
car
over
or
they
haven't
moved
their
car
over
and
then
sometimes
it's
hard
to
circle
back
and
get
to
those
streets.
P
P
P
Where
it's
tight
and
and
trucks,
and
and
it
can't
make
the
turn
because
of
the
extra
snow
and
the
cars
that
are
parked
in
the
corner,
we
can't
really
make
the
turn
we're
looking
at,
perhaps
exploring
the
possibility
of
either
renting
a
snow,
melter
and
and
melt
the
snow
at
an
intersection,
for
example,
and
bring
four
streets
into
into
a
snow,
melter
and
melt
that
way,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
haul
it.
We
don't
have
to
oil
anywhere,
it's
more
bs
condition
inspected.
P
So
we
are
looking
at
a
different
technology,
that's
available
to
us
and
also
we're
asking
people.
Does
that
work,
because
what
worked
for
syracuse
might
not
work
for
us
and
we're
looking
at
with
a
very
open
mind,
we
are
looking
we're
talking
to
a
company
that
is
out
of
long
island
who
stores
the
snow
melters
at
the
airport
and
we're
talking
to
them
about.
You
know
what
is
the
possibility
of
us
getting
that
machine
in
case
of
a
big
storm.
P
P
New
normal,
I
don't
know,
but
last
year
we
had
one
this
year
we
have
one.
Could
I'm
gonna
get
ready
for
the
next
one,
because
it's
gonna
happen?
It
might
not
happen.
I
hope
it
never
happens,
but
but
but
that's
something
that
blame
it
on.
I
don't
know
global
warming
or
something
I
I
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
this
seems
to
be
the
northeast
trend,
and
this
is
what
we're
hearing
from
our
other
colleagues
in
other
regions.
T
So
hello,
the
first
thing
that
I
I
want
to
talk
about
is
charles
street.
In
the
second
ward,
every
snowstorm,
since
I've
been
a
councilman,
they
have
had
to
call
me
to
get
someone
to
come
over
there
and
plow
out,
and
it's
from
my
understanding
that
many
of
the
residents
parked
their
cars
behind
their
house
in
the
alleyway
to
try
to
you
know,
assist
dgs,
but
only
to
get
stuck
in
the
alleyway,
because
there
is
constantly
forgotten
about
so
one.
P
T
Commissioner,
could
you
answer
the
question:
is
charles
street
because,
like
I
said
they
constantly?
If
so,
if
someone
doesn't
make
a
phone
call,
they
get
overlooked
and
they
shouldn't
get
overlooked.
They
should
you
know
they
should
that
should
be
in
the
plan
and
what
I'm
asking
is:
where
is
that
going
to
be?
How
how
do
you
plan
on
addressing
charles
street.
P
I'm
answering
you
that
charles
street
is
on
a
route,
it's
on
a
snow
route,
it
might
be
a
tertiary
street
and
and
and
it
will
get
done
after
we've
done
the
main
avenue
and
they're
the
secondary
street.
So
for
people
on
charles
street.
They
need
to
be
patient
and
the
and
the
alleyway
will
be
done
with
a
specialized
piece
of
equipment
that
we
have
to
trail
there
and
do
that.
T
But
I
know
that
I
I
witnessed
the
conversation
that
they
presented,
that
they
would
have
volunteers
who
would
help
out
in
those
situations,
and
so
my
question
is,
you
know,
there's
no
question
about
it.
It
was
a.
It
was
a
a
big
snowstorm,
but
you
know
we,
you
know
I've
grown
up
being
around
you
know.
T
Snow
is
a
part
of
our
winters
and,
as
I
listen
as
I
listen,
you
know
I
feel
like
I'm
listening,
I'm
hearing
you
say
the
last
time
we
talked
to
you
that
you
couldn't
find
sanitation
workers
and
now
I'm
hearing
you
can't
find
cdl
drivers.
So
what
I
one
of
the
questions
I
would
like
to
know
is:
how
many
workers
are
you
down
in
sanitation?
K
Sanitation,
the
actual
laborers,
it's
probably
only
about
two
positions.
Currently
I'm
in
the
process
of
hiring
multiples.
It's
mainly
the
drivers
we're
talking
about
with
sanitation
again,
because
it's
a
cdl
requirement
right
now.
We
have
14
positions,
open
that
require
cdls,
and
it's
not
just
somebody
that
can
walk
in
off
the
street.
That's
got
a
cdl,
you
know,
for
you
know,
just
got
their
cdl
sanitation,
it's
a
little
easier
to
fill,
but
some
of
the
equipment
operator
positions.
You
need
more
experience
with.
You
know
the
loaders,
the
dump
trucks,
the
plowing.
K
As
far
as
far
as
the
training
on
the
weekends
that
was
done
from
the
prior
commissioner,
no
training
was
to
be
done
on
the
clock.
It
was
done
on
weekends
because
of
a
grievance
we
received
from
the
union.
Currently
we
are
doing
training
on
the
clock
based
on
what
crews
you're
on.
That
is
that
that
was
the
case
at
one
time
where
they
were
only
doing
training
on
weekends.
That
was
under
the
former
commissioner.
P
Now,
who
do
they
choose
to
elect
as
president,
and
vice
president,
we
have
no
say
on
it
and
it
might
be
that
a
president
of
a
supervisor
union
might
be
supervising
another
supervisor
which
is
not
in
conflict
with
it's,
not
in
conflict
with
with
with
union
rules.
I
I
don't
understand
the
question
that,
but
we
don't
choose,
who
gets
elected
to
be
their
representative
in
the
union
end.
T
P
I
I
can't
answer
that
because
I
don't
I
I
don't
understand
the
question
they
there
is
a
supervisor's
union
and
supervisors
are
in
charge
of
each
division.
They
supervise
not
only
supervisors,
but
they
also
supervise
the
blue
collar
workers
or
whatever
it
is
the
season
or
whatever
and
they're
in
charge
of
a
division
and
whoever
that
union
decides
to
elect
us.
I
I
can't
answer
that
question.
I'm
sorry,
you
got
me
stumble.
T
T
T
A
So,
hey,
why
don't
we
click?
We?
We
get
some
clarification
on
the
questions
and
if
we
need
to
take
this
up
at
a
another
general
services
meeting,
this
meeting
was
for
the
purpose
of
doing
you
know
talking
through
the
snow
removal
issues.
Maybe
mr
o'brien,
you
can
you
can
work
on
setting
something
up
where
we
can
get
dgs
back,
and
maybe
we
can
get
them
the
questions
prior
to
that
to
make
this
because
we
seem
to
just
be
going
round
and
round
and
not
getting
anywhere.
B
G
I
will
be
very
brief.
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
big
thank
you.
I
know
I
appreciate
my
my
colleagues
bringing
up
different
ideas.
I
think
there's
some
good
ideas
that
were
shared,
but
I
I
also
am
very
aware
of
how
hard
your
department
was
hit
during
covid
and
how
hard
you
guys
worked
just
around
the
clock
to
really
move
things
forward.
G
There's
a
couple
of
continual,
like
smaller
problem
areas,
that
I'll
share.
I
think
that
they
probably
fall
off
the
radar
a
bit
like
the
cutouts
and
the
bridal
path,
things
that
should
be
taken
care
of
last
and
I'm
very
fortunate
that
when
I
talk
through
the
process
with
my
constituents,
they
do
understand,
everybody
wants
the
ambulances
to
get
through.
Everybody
understands
that
the
main
thoroughfares
should
be
taken
care
of
first,
and
we
want
that.
But
I'm
and
we
have
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
tomorrow
night.
N
G
Q
O
Don't
know
if
that's
the
case,
okay
I'll,
be
as
brief
as
possible.
I
know
because
we
have
another
meeting
to
go
to.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
don't
just
say
thank
you,
but
that
we
actually
compensate
people
for
their
work.
I
think
that
you
know
to
hear
that
we're
24
down
in
our
staffing
and
then
to
hear
again
that
individuals
are
deciding
to
take
unemployment
versus
working.
O
O
You
know
in
the
budget
process
so
that
we
can
fix
that
issue
because
to
hear
with
25
down
and
to
hear
that
you
know
individuals,
you
know
us
are
choosing
other
options
versus
us
makes
me
think
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
better
and
you
know
it
it's
it's
gotta
be
more
than
just
a
thank
you.
I
think
we're
all
very
appreciative.
I
think
all
of
us
that
were
out
there
ourselves,
trying
to
shove
ourselves
out
and
shove.
O
The
other
issue
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
was
these
giant
hills
of
snow
and
the
traffic
issues
that
they
created
on
certain
intersections
and
if
we,
if
I'm
not
sure,
if
there's
any
coordination
with
traffic
engineering
regarding
streets
that
are
narrower
than
others,
I'll
give
you
the
one
that
I
got
phone
calls
about
was
on
north
lake
and
western
avenue
to
make
that
turn
with
the
he.
The
hills
of
snow
is
complicated,
so
if
that
can
be
looked
at,
that'd
be
totally
appreciated.
O
I
P
K
R
O
O
I
would
encourage
that,
and
I
know
that
may
be
an
additional
burden
on
our
budget,
but
let's
figure
that
out
because
it's
a
burden
on
our
residents
when
you
know
they
they
can't
they
can't
they
don't
feel
safe,
driving
on
the
streets
and
other,
and
this
may
be
more
from
the
next
conversation
is
other
municipalities
have
little
wagon
type
plows
that
plow
heavily
heavy
streets
so
on
western
avenue.
If
you
live
in
the
town
of
guilderland
and
you
get
plowed
in
the
town,
missouri
actually
plows
those
sidewalks
out,
I'm
not
sure.
O
If
we've
looked
at
that
for
our
heavily
plowed
streets,
because
it's
not
fair-
and
I
know
I
know
it-
falls
back
on
the
homeowner,
but
it's
not
fair.
When
you've
been
out
there,
when
you're
a
senior
and
you've
shoveled
your
snow,
you've
done
everything
right
and
then
you
go
back
out
there
and
it's
been
plowed
back
in
to
have
to
do
it
again
and
again
and
again.
P
And
I
know
commitment
ballroom,
you've
been
very,
very
supportive
and
you've
been
very
vocal
about
looking
looking
to
increase
that
every
time
we
lobbied
you,
you
were
always
positive
and
I
thank
you
for
that
and
my
department
thanks
you
for
that.
I
I
think
what
we
fail
to
realize,
not
at
least
not
dgs,
but
our
administrative
staff
knows
this,
but
I
think
what
some
people
out
there.
P
Tremendously
dedicated
workforce
for
me
to
put
a
sign
out
and
say:
hey,
I
am
willing
to
give
you
a
class.
Are
you
willing
to
take
it
and
for
15
people
before
even
the
ink
dried
said,
I'm
it?
These
people
are
self-motivated,
they're,
just
not
being
offered
the
opportunity
and
we're
looking
to
create
that.
I
think
we
have
a
a.
P
Staff,
I
think
we
have
a
dedicated
workforce,
a
committed
workforce
and
it's
it's
ironic
that
you
know
we're
sitting
in
a
meeting
and
I
know
they're
watching
and
holding
here
is
here's
a
complaint.
Here's
a
complaint!
Here's
a
complaint!
Here's
a
complaint!
It's
you
know!
One
of
my
I
talk
to
my
staff
daily.
I
talked
to
from
the
laborer
to
the
guy
that
cleans
my
office
to
the
equipment
operator
to
my
deputy
commissioners
and
yeah.
I
P
You
for
doing
a
great
job.
I
don't
think
our
guys
hear
that
enough
from
the
council
from
the
public.
They
always
hear
the
negative
stuff
and
yes
paid,
goes
a
long
way.
It's
a
motivating
factor.
But
for
these
people,
this
hard-working
people
who
don't
forget,
don't,
let's
not
forget
the
picture
they
leave.
L
P
They
don't
hear
that
they
hear
that
the
nurse
on
street
x
could
not
get
out
of
work
and
call
the
councilman
or
call
the
the
mayor
or
call
the
newspaper
and
said
I
couldn't
get
to
work.
Shame
on
them.
They
didn't
clown
my
street
when
we
talk
about
motivating
fact.
When
we
talk
about
the
the
passion
that
these
people
have
they
have
it.
It's
just
not
appreciated.
I
P
Or
or
if
it
is
it's
not
vocalized
enough,
I
mean
I
I
I
hate
to
I.
I
want
to
conclude
with
this
because
I'm
so
passionate
about
it
because
they
see
what
these
men
and
women
go
through
every
day
and
we
have
problems.
We
all
have
problems
and-
and
we
have
differences
of
opinion
and
and
and
and
but
I'm
glad
that
the
union
is
here
today
to
witness
the
the
the
the
unpleasantness
with
the
consistent
commitment
of
these
employees,
who.
I
P
P
We-
and
I
tell
I
tell
this
to
my
staff-
I
tell
this
to
my
supervisors-
don't
only
highlight
the
negative
when
somebody
needs
to
be
pat
in
the
back,
give
a
counter
back
and
the
feeling,
commissioner
of
baldering.
The
feeling
is
that
when
the
fire
department
has
a
fire
they're
not
brought
in
and
questioned
about,
you
know
the
hose
should
have
been
sprayed
on
window
b
or
you.
P
You
didn't
put
enough
water
on
window
a
when
a
policeman
have
a
shooting
or
they
have
a
bank
robbery
they're
not
brought
in
in
front
of
council
saying.
Well,
you
know
you
should
not
done
that.
You
shouldn't
have
given
the
ticket,
but
dgs
misses.
One
tulip
misses.
One
part
misses
one
garbage,
we're
we're
all
painted.
I
P
That's
all
I
want
to
end
it.
I
appreciate
counsel.
I
thank
you
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
explain
the
tremendous
force
that
we
went
through,
but
I
think
if,
if
councilmember
asked
me-
and
they
asked
me
all
the
time-
I
know
wussu
asked
me
all
the
time
and
then
I'll
be
very
asking
the
whole
time
and
pay
as
well
and
judge
love
it.
What
can
we
do
amplify
that
there
are
reasonable
expectations?
P
27
inch
snowstorm
two
hours
later
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
out
of
your
driveway.
It's
it's
that's
an
unreasonable
expectation.
I
could
have
had
60
plows.
I
could
have
a
hundred
plows.
You
couldn't
do
that
amplify
that,
instead
of
saying
we're
wrong,
we
did
something
wrong.
We
didn't
do
it
fast
enough.
We
didn't
do
it
the
right
way.
That
is
all
I'm
saying,
and
I
thank
you
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
go
to
the
next
week.
O
Appreciates
our
workers
of
of
of
the
men
and
women
that
were
putting
12-hour
shifts
in
very
difficult
situations,
and
it
shouldn't
be
seen
as
a
negative
that
we
bring
you
in
and
ask
you
what
else
do
you
need?
What
else
can
we?
What
else
can
we
work
with
you
to
to
bring
up
what
other
ideas
that
are
out
there
being
used
in
different
municipalities?
O
Can
we
try
to
bring
here
and
what
are
the
resources
and-
and
I
know
I'm
not
the
only
person
that
has
said
you
know,
let's
try
to
find
more
resources
and
when
you
come
looking
for
resources,
I
don't
think
we've
said
no.
I
think
any
equipment
you've
asked
for
if
you've
asked,
for,
if
you,
if
you
ask
for
more
staff,
I
don't
think
we
would
say.
No,
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
the
full
council.
O
I
know
I
wouldn't
so
I
don't
think
it's
I
and
I
hope
you
don't
see
it
as
a
negative
conversation.
I
don't
want
you
to
see
it.
I
don't
want
your
staff
to
see
it
a
negative
conversation.
It's
just.
Sometimes
we
can
look
at
a
issue
and
say:
okay,
a
lot
of
work
was
put
into
it.
What
worked
what
didn't
work?
What
can
we?
What
can
we
borrow
or
steal
from
somebody
next
door?
You
know
and
what
do
we
need?
O
N
A
Okay
hold
on
mr
o'brien.
Thank
you
for
that,
mr
balor,
and
I
again
I
I
have
a
number
of
council
members
wanting
to
chime
in
and
push
back
on
that
because
it
we
support
our
workers
every
department.
So
so
that's
not
the
case.
I'm
sorry!
If
you
feel
like
we're
being
negative,
just
criticisms,
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
and,
let's,
let's
not
dwell
on
him,
let's
just
figure
out
how
we
can
do
better
going
forward
and
move
on.