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A
When
stage
up
welcome
to
the
the
Wednesday
July
1st
meeting
caucus
me
become
a
counselor
okay
right
into
the
agenda,
but
this
for
the
record
council
members
here
or
Brian
love,
Ponte
I,
go
council,
president
Ellis
councilmember,
Frederick,
Howie,
Lynn
and
ninety.
At
this
point
we
also
have
staff
see
blood,
so
the
aid
you
shall
Andre
the
city
clerk
and
you
know
Gillespie
and
our
Research
Council
John
revealed
Accardo
as
well
as
brett
williams
from
corporation
council.
A
1580
119
by
council
members,
Hoey
and
do--she
will
be
amendments
to
the
u.s.
do
so
we'll
have
those
hearings
down
to
approval
means
minutes
from
previous
meeting
the
council
meeting
Minister
June
15th
June
15
2020
meeting
will
be
offered
for
approval
on
to
consideration
of
laws:
local
ma
G
for
2020
by
mister
inany.
B
Thank
you
so
this
legislation,
you
know
as
released
to
Albany
many
people,
have
been
complaining
about
quality
of
life
issues,
particularly
that's
relates
to
litter
and
trash
being
in
front
of
private
properties
or
even
vacant
lots.
This
legislation
is
making
amendments
to
cut
the
days
from
five
five
business
days
that
most
DJ's
allow
business
or
homeowners
to
take
care
of
their
property
once
the
complaint
has
been
levied
towards
them.
B
A
C
C
A
Prefers
to
amending
article
1
refers
to
Police
Department
statistics
and
recording
of
them
and
gathering
them
and
providing
and
presenting
it
to
the
council
that
will
be
going
to
Public
Safety
that
local
law
for
discussion.
So
any
issues
with
that
we
can.
We
can
go
through
in
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
for
that.
Okay,
next
by
council,
member
Johnson
local
law,
I
again
will
be
going
to
public
safety.
A
But
it's
a
relation
to
use
of
video
cameras
and
information
to
implement
a
policy
of
city
body-worn
and
no
cameras
for
police
officers
and
require
reporting
when
the
cameras
are
turned
off
by
a
police
officer.
So
that'll
that'll
also
go
to
public
safety
for
further
discussion,
and
that
was
come
from
Mary
Johnson.
Next,
there
are
numerous
sponsors
for
local
law,
J
amending
the
CPR,
be
the
operation
and
relation
to
the
CPR,
be
mister
kantor
you're
the
lead
sponsor
on
it.
If
you
care
to
say
something:
that's
that's
fine!
C
Is
from
the
CPR
be
that
they
made
as
well
as
additional
recommendations
that
were
incorporated
in
there?
Some
of
those
you
include
the
subpoena
power,
which
was
not
one
of
the
CPR,
be
recommendations
in
that
letter
they
spent
and
some
other
recommendations.
Just
the
memo
sets
out
all
the
provisions
be
happy
to
go
through
them.
If
you
want,
or
if
there
are
any
questions.
A
A
Okay,
we
have
a
couple
of
held
that
are
mr.
hallease
1581
19
agenda
item
5
that
we're
having
the
public
hearing
on
the
sixth
that
would
be
up
for
vote.
It's
an
amendment
to
the
US
do
so
that's
that
and
we'll
be
gone
further
on
their
ordinances.
Hell
will
be
841
20
by
mr.
Shain
related
to
the
green
roofs
and
energy
efficiency.
Also,
an
amendment
to
the
agenda
item
9
that
will
be
a
public
hearing
also
for
Monday
and
we'll
be
voting
on.
That
I
mean
the
outcome
of
the
hearing.
A
A
Next,
excuse
me:
under
ordinances,
hell
will
be
twelve
sixty
two
twenty
by
mr.
Robinson
mr.
Barnum,
its
Frederick
that
went
through
the
Public
Safety
Committee
recently
and
came
out
with
a
positive
recommendation
to
be
forwarded
to
the
full
council.
That
would
be
a
pass
or
we'll
be
voting
on
that
with
a
minute.
Did
you
have
something?
Mr.
C
A
B
Yeah
you
know
this
pandemic
has
affected
many
families
and,
right
now
you
know
unemployment
rate
as
high
as
it
is.
Many
people
who
are
renting
are
struggling
to
pay
rent.
This
resolution
is
going
to
encourage
the
state
legislature
also
that
individuals
who
are
rent
burden,
the
way
that
we
could
forgive
covert
victims
could
be
the
rent
could
be
waived
and
the
governor
made
an
executive
order
today,
extending
fiction
prize
proceedings
indefinitely
I
think
that's
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
some
of
those
sentiments
and
I.
A
So
also
for
this
we're
calling
on
the
moratorium
on
evictions
until
August,
20th
I
know
the
governor
did
what
he
did,
but
also
we're
seeking
a
positive
affirmation
from
landlords
that
are
seeking
eviction,
whether
they're
complying
with
the
cares
Act,
and
in
addition
to
that,
we're
again
asking
for
passage
any
questions.
Comments
on
that
from
members.
A
Don't
okay,
so
I
saw
Grady's
team
in
okay,
so
we'll
be
voting
on
that.
Okay
next
resolution
by
councilmember,
Flynn
and
baby,
it's
a
60,
70
120
are
and
it's
a
resolution
recognizing
celebrating
our
30th
anniversary
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
and
July
being
declared
a
disability.
Pride
Month
in
the
city
of
Albany
plan
is
for
that
to
be
a
pass.
Any
questions
comments.
Oh
I'm,
gonna,
assume.
All
members
want
to
be
closed.
Sponsors
on
that,
yes,
I
can't
I
can't
see
everyone.
Sorry,
we.
F
A
F
A
A
G
A
Right
right,
so
our
next
resolutions
introduced
61,
71
20,
are
by
councilmember
O'brien.
It's
reappointing
decibel
cops
to
egg
access.
We
had
earlier
recently
before
us
at
a
caucus
before
we
appointed
her
the
first
time
around
so
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
new
time
to
recall
her
and
that
will
be
pass.
I
got.
J
I
A
J
Just
said
briefly,
the
reason
I
I'm
introducing
this
is
because
of
sixty
common
Avenue
I
developer
once
put
apartments
on
sixty
carbon
atom
and
in
his
application,
which
was
deemed
complete
but
not
voted
on.
Yet
he
didn't
even
mention
that
the
2030
plan
identifies
60
carbon
I
know
as
one
of
seven
in
the
entire
city.
Potential
brownfield
cleanup
areas,
and
so
the
planning
department
has
all
the
old
documents
from
when
the
2030
plan
was
written,
they're
not
available
on
the
website.
J
So
when
I,
when
asked
about
that
the
planning
director,
opined
that
it
made,
in
fact
a
2030
plan,
clearly
says
it
was
because
of
contamination
that
the
land
didn't
develop.
The
planning
director,
opined
that
the
perception
of
brownfield
may
just
be
that
really
a
perception
and
there
might
have
been
other
reasons
for
it.
Not
developing
I
think
he's
trying
to
set
it
up
that
the
Planning
Board
itself
can
simply
avoid
even
thinking
about
the
fact
that
it's
a
central
brownfield.
J
So
this
basically
says
the
Planning
Board
shouldn't
have
that
authority
and
if
the
2030
plan
was
an
error
and
let's
have
a
truly
independent
process
of
determining
that
by
the
same
means
by
which
the
2030
plan
was
passed
and
that's
the
sum
and
substance
of
it
and
you
know,
it'll
go
to
planning
and
maybe
we
can
get
some
more
documents,
but
I
don't
have
them.
The
Planning
Department
asked
them
and
that's
why
they
haven't
found
made
them
available
anyway.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr.
O'brien.
Okay,
on
to
the
next
resolution,
63
70
120
are
that's
mine
regarding
and
I
I.
Dare
pro
pilots,
multiple
departments
we
did
this
last
year
and
a
few
things
have
changed
and
but
I'll
have
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
have
mr.
Longo
speak
to
what
we're
doing
and
also
mr.
Williams.
If
you
want
to
add
what
mr.
Mongol
says
that
ever
great
so
Steve
Waldo.
D
Perfect.
Okay,
sorry,
so
thank
you
for
having
me
back
I'm,
also
joined
by
our
deputy
director,
Chiquita
Dr
Bo
said
it's
a
great
day
for
us
here
today,
because
today
our
board
announced
that,
as
I'm
retiring,
that
Chiquita
d'arco,
the
Deputy
Director
has
been
selected
to
succeed
me.
So
if,
if
and
when
I
and
the
Housing
Authority
comes
back
before
you
you'll
have
the
pleasure
of
week
working
with
mr.
yabo,
so
in
any
event
to
get
down
to
business,
I
know
everybody's
busy.
D
We
were
last
here
asking
for
a
pilot
for
what
we
were
calling
Ida
phase
four,
so
you
can
see
that
the
entire
super
block
of
ID
Yarborough
is
rapidly
coming
to
conclusion.
We've
done
phase
one
and
two
in
which
we
tore
down
124
family
units
and
we've
rebuilt
a
seven-story,
Tower
and
rebuilt
family
units
in
the
foreground.
D
Bite
of
phase
4,
which
we
got
the
pilot
for,
was
the
renovation
of
224
apartments
in
the
two
remaining
seven
storey
towers,
and
we
have
been
working
with
the
state
of
New
York
through
h,
fa
and
h
CR
to
try
to
get
the
deal
underwritten,
but
the
cost
to
renovate
that
building
built
in
the
early
70s
would
not
it
would
not
cash
flow
and
underwrite.
So
at
the
States
urging
we've
added
our
North
albany
units
in
which
have
less
repair
work,
which
lowers
the
subsidy
costs
and
makes
the
deal
work.
D
So
what
we're
doing
here
is
we
like
to
you
know
we
like
to
think
of
each
generation
has
made
sacrifices
to
produce,
affordable
housing
and
so
in
the
1970s
Adi
Yarborough
was
built
and
another
generation
stood
up
in
the
early
1990s
and
renovated
it
and
created
another
30
years
of
viability.
We're
now
stepping
up
its.
It
needs
a
massive
overhaul,
along
with
the
North
Albany
units,
and
so
we've
been
proposing.
D
This
bond
deal
this
bond
bill
is
a
99
million
dollar
deal
the
pilot
that
we
got
for
Ida
Yarborough,
we're
asking
for
the
same
terms
for
the
new
combined
deal,
which
the
current
pilot
is
10%
of
the
residents
rent
utilities
and
it
was
subordinate
to
dead.
So,
as
we
discovered
at
the
last
pilot
discussion,
there
is
substantial
debt
in
the
new
renovation.
This
debt
is
going
to
be
19
million
dollars,
and
so,
with
the
pilot
subordinate,
there
would
be
no
or
zero
pilot
paid.
D
So
this
in
one
way
is
taking
the
126
thousand
dollar
pilot
that
Ida
and
North
Albany
is
now
paying
and
it
is
reducing
or
the
anticipated
pilot
will
be
brought
down
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
during
the
lifespan
of
the
debt
service,
and
so
what
we
want
to
say
to
counter
that
is
that
we're
providing
the
next
generation
with
30
more
years
of
affordable
housing
over
three
hundred
and
thirty-four
units.
As
you
know,
New
York
State
does
not
get
anywhere
near
its
share
of
federal
on
the
return
of
federal
tax
dollars
compared
to
what
we
pay.
D
This
is
a
unique
opportunity,
get
over
33
million
dollars
of
federal
tax
credit
money
returned
to
New,
York
and
Albany,
and
31
million
dollars
of
additional
subsidy
or
over
60
million
dollars
of
subsidy
as
well
as
we
have
the
federal
government
on
the
hook,
because
they
have
a
contract
to
provide
the
the
rental
subsidy.
Last
year,
these
two
properties
received
over
1.5
million
dollars
from
HUD
to
offset
the
cost
of
what
the
housing
cost
to
run
versus
what
the
affordable
rents
were.
D
This
is
a
30
acre
site.
We
wanted
to
new
you
to
utilize
the
latest
new
urbanism
and
and
infuse
a
scattered
site
home
ownership,
but
we
could
not
in
the
late
1990s
and
early
2000s.
We
could
not
get
the
private
capital
to
do
that.
So
what
we're
doing
now
is
we're
taking
ten
of
the
80
buildings
and
converting
them
to
home
homeownership,
and
so,
in
addition
to
our
pilot
payment,
there
would
be
homeownership
on
tax
payments
made
by
the
individual
homeowners.
A
K
No
on
that
really
mr.
Longo
covered
most
of
it
in
terms
of
the
agreement
itself
and
the
resolution
to
pass
that
they're,
essentially
the
same
as
they
were
last
year,
just
with
the
addition
of
41
Jennings
and
they're,
both
fairly
similar
to
the
$25.
A
pilot
passed
at
the
last
meeting.
I
did
have
one
or
two
comments
on
59
7120
R,
which
was
the
eviction
resolution.
I
put
my
hand
up
a
little
late
for
that.
So,
if
you
don't
want
to
go
back,
that's
fine,
but.
A
K
K
Landlords
shall
affirm
their
compliance.
It
talks
about
landlords,
doing
things
via
affirmation,
which
you
know
an
affirmation
and
an
affidavit
or
sort
of
specific
legal
terms
of
art,
but
just
the
terms
of
the
Shou
language
I'm
just
concerned
that
it
gives
us
sort
of
the
wrong
impression
of
what
the
resolution
is
actually
able
to
accomplish.
I
think
what
the
council's
going
for
is
a
more
aspirational
sort
of
feel.
K
You
know
declaring
what
the
council
believes
and
thinks
should
happen,
but
sort
of
couches
the
language
in
terms
of
this,
as
if
it
actually
has
force
of
law.
So
it
just
you
know:
I,
don't
want
people
to
think
that
that
is
giving
them
rights
or
imposing
responsibilities
that
it
may
not
necessarily
be
legally
speaking,.
A
H
A
A
Said
any
suggested
changes
maybe
mean
you
can
talk
about
or
me
you
can
speak
about,
I
mean
if
members
weren't
comfortable
I
think
maybe
that
should
come
up,
but
we
can.
We
can
talk
about
I'm
up
for
making
any
changes
that
we
may
need.
Okay,
so
just
moving
on
so
we
were
at
63,
then
it's
the
same
or
similar
pilot
to
last
year,
again
be
asking
for
passage
on
Monday
on
that
one.
A
C
A
A
K
I
just
had
one
quick
question
for
the
sponsors
on
that
in
the
title
of
the
resolution
as
I
received,
it
said
July
13th
to
17th
as
a
national
disability
voter
registration
week,
but
then
in
the
body
of
the
resolution
it
had
some
different
dates,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
and
I
googled
quickly
and
it
seemed
the
13th
and
the
17th
were
the
correct
dates.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that's
the
case
of
what.
K
H
B
A
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
We've
witnessed
an
uptick
in
fireworks,
particularly
here
in
the
city
of
Albany
and
all
across
the
county.
Many
of
the
residents
are
just
fed
up
and
they
would
like
to
see
some
action
I'm
glad
that
the
Albany
County
Legislature
is
interesting
because,
right
when
I
was
by
semi
press
release,
I
see
the
chair
and
also
County
Legislature
Peters,
having
a
press
conference
about
making
some
amendments
to
the
opt-in
during
2016.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
them
for
doing
that,
so
self-explanatory.
Just
to
repeal
the
sale
of
fireworks.
B
Many
of
the
residents
in
Albany
are
losing
sleep
veterans
who
have
post-traumatic
stress,
also
receive
a
lot
of
anxiety.
I
think
that
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
Again,
it's
not
going
to
solve
all
the
fine
work
problem,
but
I
feel
like
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
and
there
are
some
people
who
are
like
well
councilman,
there's
all
the
shootings
that
are
occurring
in
the
city.
B
Why
don't
you
focus
on
that
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
can
walk
and
chew
gum
at
the
same
time
since
being
on
the
council,
I've
introduced.
Many
legislation,
as
relates
to
urban
blight,
have
a
truce
legislation,
address
youth
unemployment.
So,
let's
go
on
so
again.
This
is
a
resolution
to
address
the
quality
of
life
issue.
There
is
a
plague
in
our
community
right
now
and
we
dislike
resolution
is
calling
the
county
to
repeal
the
legislation,
allow
local
or
a
okay.
A
L
L
A
Okay
resolution
by
mr.
O'brien:
that's
an
MC
Preston
MC
for
67
71
of
20,
requesting
the
board
of
contract
and
supply
the
advertising,
the
chat
specifications
to
replace
the
current
equipment
in
the
common
council
chamber
and
create
a
mobile
media
car,
and
the
thing
is
once
we
go
back
out
online
and
we're
back
in
our
chambers.
We
want
want
to
keep
the
maintain
the
ability
to
to
reach
out
I
mean
we've
got
in
these
recent
months.
A
J
Yeah,
the
the
peg
access
board
reviewed
a
whole
plan
for
equipment
and
the
money
comes
from
money
that
we
originally
got
through
time
order
ten
years
ago
and
I
believe
then
they
had
like
both
DTS
and
Corp
counsel
and
the
RIT
unit
review
it
and
I
believe
they
signed
off
on
the
recommendations
that
the
the
peg
access
board
may
and
I
forget.
The
exact
total
now
footage.
C
H
B
C
C
O
G
O
If
I
could
add
on
to
with
mr.
Conti
is
saying
it
wouldn't
be
a
need
for
a
new
local
law
if
the
police
were
enforcing,
you
know
they're
derived
by
the
firework
show.
So
that's
that's
a
concern
that
I
have
that
I
was
well
I.
Will
hope
that
would
be
heard
is
that
we
need
to
send
a
message
that
it's
not
okay,
to
shoot
fireworks
off
at
2:00
in
the
morning,
and
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
police.
Come
that's
a
bigger.
B
Also
I'd
like
to
you
know,
share
those
sentiments
to
Syracuse,
has
actually
dedicated
at
least
five
police
officers
whose
sole
job
is
to
deal
with
the
fireworks,
and
they
have
witnessed
a
decrease
in
fireworks.
They
have
made
several
arrests
and
also
confiscations
so
I.
You
know
I
want
to
echo
that
sentiment
by
mr.
Johnson
that
the
police,
yes,
we
have
gun
violence
issue
in
the
city
of
Albany.
Yes,
there's
been
several
shootings
and
deaths
that
have
occurred,
but
we
can
also
address
the
quality
of
life
issue
that
is
plaguing
our
city.
B
Many
people
in
this
city
are
moving
out
in
droves
because
of
the
gun,
violence,
they're,
also
moving
out
because
of
the
quality
of
life
issue,
as
relates
to
the
fireworks.
Also.
So
again,
we
can
pass
legislation
and
also
enforced
these
letter
and
force
these
legislation
vote
from
the
press
conference
by
the
county
legislators.
The
chairman
choice
is
that,
because
of
the
opt-in,
the
police
officers
are
having
a
difficult
time
dealing
with
making
an
arrest
because
of
the
opt-in.
C
I,
just
just
bunk
as
well
on
this
topic.
I
understand
at
that
particular
press
conference
is
the
mayor
also
indicated
that
she
was
taking
some
actions
and
meeting
with
associate
Neighborhood
Association
presidents
and
had
some
kind
of
a
door
hanger
that
was
being
distributed
with
information,
that
residents
can
report
or
something
along
those
lines.
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
the
council
will
be
made
aware
of
or
if
we
would
get
some
additional
information
or
if
that's
come
up
in
any
leadership
meetings.
Yeah,
that's
interesting.
It.
A
B
A
A
P
I
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
what
I'm
supposed
to
do,
because
I
was
told
I'm
supposed
to
do
it
on
the
elmo
on
the
program.
So
I
did
that
or
at
least
I
thought
I
did
that
anyway,
this
this
is
about.
You
would
ask
for
comments
on
the
MC
and
Richard.
We
went
back
to
the
other,
so
are
we
done
with
the
MC?
P
P
What
experts
were
you
know
what
what
was
the
process
for
determining
I
know
nothing
about
how
to
fix
the
problems
in
our
chambers,
so
I
am
hoping
that
this
is
getting
fixed
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
there
was
a
committee.
So
I
was
just
thinking
that
maybe
we
could
get
a
little
bit
of
information
about.
P
J
N
N
Mr.
Ryan,
the
peg
access
and
the
equipment
and
with
the
different
levels
of
packages
that
were
looked
at,
there
was
a
gold,
a
silver
and
a
bronze.
You
know,
gold
being
the
most
expensive
and
I
think
bronze
may
have
been
the
least
expensive.
The
committee
itself
met,
and
then
we
went
to
other
municipalities,
and
we
spoke
with
them
along
with
Channel
Albany
Zeb,
and
we
kind
of
sort
of
looked
at
ways
that
other
municipalities
were
leveraging
their
equipment
to
produce
high-quality
video
and
improve
transparency.
N
And
then
we
also,
in
addition
to
go
into
Proctor's.
We
also
went
to
religious
institution
to
see
how
they
were
live-streaming,
because
the
experts
at
Proctor's
had
mentioned
that
what
we
were
trying
to
do,
a
lot
of
churches
and
synagogues
who
have
congregants
that
live
outside
of
the
immediate
area,
we're
already
doing
with
a
high
level
of
success.
After
all
of
the
field,
trips
for
lack
of
a
better
word
were
conducted,
then
a
report
was
put
together
based
on
conversations
and
recommendations
from
local
area
experts,
and
that
report
was
shared
with
AMA
councilmembers.
N
That
report
was
also
shared
with
Corporation
Counsel,
the
Department
of
General
Services,
the
chair
of
PEG
access
and
the
IT
department,
so
that
they
were
able
to
provide
feedback
as
to
the
sustainability.
If
we
would
have
make
the
purchase,
who
had
the
expertise
and
skill
set
to
do
the
installation
and
based
on
the
dollar
amount
and
missable
law.
N
P
P
Since
I'm,
not
an
expert
I
want
to
just
make
sure
that
we're
doing
our
due
diligence
and
as
you
were
talking
I
was
recalling
about
the
field
trips
that
were
made,
which
is
really
extraordinary
and,
and
does
give
me
what
you
have
said
and
when
human
Michelle
and
others
have
done
really
gives
me
a
great
deal
of
confidence
that
we're
making
the
right
decisions
and
we'll
keep
our
fingers
crossed
because,
as
things
get
installed,
there
always
be
cold
wrinkles.
But
you
don't
necessarily
interest.
P
A
Okay.
Moving
on
to
resolutions
held
by
mr.
Johnson,
so
resolution
51
62
20
are
to
jinda
item
10
resolution,
honoring,
Ruth,
Hughes
and
renaming
taking
place
after
her
that
that'll
be
a
hassle,
we'll
be
voting
on
it
and
went
to
the
General
Services
Committee
and
came
out
with
a
positive
recommendation,
so
we'll
be
looking
to
pass
that.
H
A
Thank
you
for
that
today.
That
would
be
a
minute.
Okay,
next
resolutions.
Fifty
three
sixty
two
twenty
are
five.
Mr.
Flamm
is
agenda.
Item
11
also
went
through
the
General
Services
Committee,
while
the
Joint
Committee
and
mr.
Flynn,
you
wanna,
speak
to
that
or
mr.
O'brien,
either
of
you
care
I
just.
G
J
Right,
no
just
to
repeat
what
Jack
said:
I
think:
the
concept
with
good
there
was
an
amendment
messed
up
how
the
committee
is
going
to
be
constituted.
It's
gonna
be
the
same
members
as
our
members
of
the
parks,
rec
committee
and
the
General
Services
Committee,
and
it
specifies
that
we
should
meet
at
least
minimally
quarterly,
but
obviously
we
can
raise
issues
as
often
as
we
should
educate,
necessary.
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
that'll
be
going
on
on
Monday
next
resolution,
Helmuth
by
myself.
It's
a
agenda
item
12
resolution,
honoring,
William,
Hank,
Wallace
and
renaming
the
portion
of
large
Street
William
Wallace
way
that
also
went
through
General
Services
Committee
and
was
discussed
and
came
out
with
a
positive
inundation
and
that
will
be
voted
on
will
be
a
pass.
Did
that
so,
unless
someone
has
a
question
or
comments
about
what
we've
discussed
so
far,
that's
it
for
the
agenda.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
mr.
Flynn
no.
Q
Q
In
June
alone,
we
saw
49
confirm,
confirm
shots
fired,
that's
confirmed,
shots
fired
where
we
find
you
know
credible
evidence
such
as
video
and
nor
physical
evidence
such
as
casings
on
the
ground.
Out
of
those
49
confirmed,
shot
fired,
it
was
actually
25
actual
shootings
where
somebody
was
shot
and
a
total
of
38
victims
in
the
month
of
June.
Here
in
the
city
of
Albany,
unfortunately,
compared
to
2019,
we
only
had
the
four
four
people
shot
in
the
month
of
June
last
year,
so
year-to-date
totals
compared
to
the
two.
Obviously
we
are.
Q
We
are
up
quite
a
bit:
we're
not
only
seeing
an
increase
in
incidence
of
shooting
but
we're
seeing
increase
the
actual
numbers
of
people
shot
at
particular
in
science,
so
that
seems
to
be
a
trend
with
other
give
jurisdictions
in
in
New,
York
State.
You
know:
there's
20
other
jurisdictions
within
17
counties
of
New
York,
that
received
funding
for
the
state
for
the
gun,
violence,
elimination
initiatives-
they
are
all
seeing.
Q
Obviously,
we've
talked
about
covin
19,
having
some
effect
on
our
police
operations.
Also
I
think
you
know.
More
importantly,
it's
had
a
large
effect
on
the
family
and
communities
here
in
the
city
with
high
unemployment,
and
then
you
know
some
opportunities
for
some.
You
know
just
simple
stuff:
medical
stuff,
mental
health,
stuff.
You
know,
drop-in
support
groups,
schools,
churches,
there's
been
not
a
lot
of
community
stuff
for
folks
to
do
so,
we're
you
know
we're
looking
for
it,
obviously
to
the
to
the
state
opening
up.
Q
We,
our
members,
have
also
been
doing
some
outstanding
work
with
some
of
the
gun
violence
since,
since
roughly
mid
March
we've
had
18
gun
violence,
arrests
for
adults
and
seven
gun
violence,
arrests
for
juveniles,
with
a
total
of
four
murder
arrests
for
four
of
those
guys.
So
we
are
closing
those
cases
out.
Q
Also
the
shots
fired
cases
were
probably
clearing
about
20%
clearance
rate
on
our
shots,
fired
cases
where
there's
an
actual
evidence
on
the
ground,
so
those
guys
are
doing
an
excellent
job
and
again
we're
open
to
hearing
suggestions.
We
are
working
very
diligently,
we're
taking
it
very
serious.
We
are
working
with
the
partners
that
we
have.
We
have
great
support
and
you
know
we
are.
We
are
putting
out
strategic
patrols,
some
static
patrols
in
certain
areas
that
seem
to
be
largely
affected
to
kind
of
divert
and
deter
some
crime
over
there.
Q
So
we
basically
have
a
strategy
of
looking
at
people.
As
you
know,
some
some
folks
are
responsible.
Small
group
of
folks
tend
to
be
responsible
for
a
lot
of
the
gun
violence
here
in
the
area.
So
we
are
looking
to
focus
on
those
folks
those
areas
and
come
up
with
the
good
smart
strategies
to
go
out.
Schemata.
I
Not
sorry,
one
of
the
problems
up
here
in
the
15th
Ward
is
traffic
violations
and
you
know
I
understand
the
shortage
of
police
and
I
think
what
I've
heard
is
that
the
traffic
enforcement
division
no
longer
works,
or
it's
been
cut
down.
Some
I'm
just
wondering
because
now
we're
working
with
the
county,
with
the
sheriff
and
with
the
State
Police.
So
anyway,
with
you
get
like
the
State
Police
to
take
over
the
traffic
enforcement
in
the
city,
especially
on
state
roads
and
I'm,
even
thinking
with
the
county
on
the
county
roads.
I
I
Q
Absolutely-
and
we
take
that
very
seriously
as
well-
we
have
actually
increased
our
number
of
traffic
officers.
Unfortunately,
you
know
with
kovat
we
scaled
folks
back
a
little
bit,
but
also
with
some
of
the
marches
that
we've
had
going
through.
The
city
has
forced
us
to
rededicate
our
Traffic
Safety
officers
to
those
marches
to
you
know,
help
guide
the
folks
to
the
streets
because
it's
very
dangerous,
you
know
with
large
crowds
moving
throughout
the
throughout
the
city
here
and
basically
I
think.
Q
Once
we
get
past
some
of
that
stuff,
and
you
know
we
make
some
change
some
positive
changes
and
that
stuff
changes
for
us,
we
will
be
getting
back
to
some
of
the
basic
traffic
enforcement,
and
that
is
one
of
the
main
strategies
that
we
are
looking
to
use
as
well
is
the
traffic
enforcement
and
again
we
we
have
upped
our
numbers
that
we
heard
loud
and
clear
that
that
was
one
of
the
complaints
from
some
of
the
communities
is
that
traffic
enforcement
is
very,
very
important.
Do.
I
You
really
have
an
address,
but
my
big
question
is:
why
aren't
we
getting
our
partners
in
the
county
in
the
state
I
mean
we
all
pay
taxes
to
the
state?
We
pay
taxes
to
the
county
and
there's
more
enforcement
there
and
there
seems
to
be
a
pushback
and
I
brought
this
up
with
the
chief.
Why
is
there
such
a
pushback
to
do
joint
policing
that
yeah,
what
I've
heard
I
have
friends
who
are
in
the
Union
with
the
police
union
and
their
thing
is
well?
This
is
our
city.
I
Q
I
think
a
good
example
is
that
we
I
mean
we're
doing
just
that.
Now
we
have.
We
have
the
state
police
here
in
the
city.
They
are
doing
some
enforcement
on
our
around
our
highways,
our
egress
and
ingress,
the
city's.
Also,
you
know
we
have
invited
the
Sheriff's
Department
in
here
to
us
with
the
troll
as
well
they're
doing
some
two-man
patrols
with
us
and
they're
also
doing
some
solo
patrol
stuff,
so
they
are
out
there
we're
open
to
the
idea,
we're
you
know
we're
welcoming
that
stuff
right
now.
So,
okay.
B
I
just
want
to
echo
Tom
Thomas
hallways
statement.
I
know
that
in
certain
communities
they
believe
that
is
too
much
policing,
I
would
say.
That's
the
case.
You
could
try
to
read
that
read
some
of
these
police
officers
into
neighborhoods
that
have
been
neglected.
You
know
some
of
the
residents
in
my
neighborhood
cannot
remember
the
last
time
they
saw
a
police
officer.
You
know
so
I
think
that
we
also
pay
taxes.
Although
we
haven't
seen
witness
shootings
in
a
pine
Knolls
neighborhood,
we
would
like
to
see
police
services
on
the
beat
patrolling
our
neighborhood.
B
Uh-Huh
I
also
want
to
officer
Magee
the
union
president.
If
you
could
also
tell
him
that
he's
more
than
welcome
anytime,
to
come
and
speak
to
the
Common
Council,
as
relates
to
any
solutions
or
any
suggestions
that
he
has
for
us
to
address
the
violence
that
an
uptick
in
violence
that
we're
witnessing
here.
So
if
you
could
share
that
with
him,
that
would
be
great.
Also
again,
when
we
asked
for
state
troopers
or
acts
for
sheriffs
to
come
into
the
city.
It's
not
that
we
don't
have
faith
in
the
police
officers.
B
We
do
have
faith
in
the
police
officers.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
are
safe,
so
having
an
extra
eye
out
there
in
the
community.
It's
not
a
hit
on
the
police
officers.
So
again,
I
agree
with
councilmember
Hoey
that
I'm
all
in
support
of
whatever
assistance
that
we
can
use,
whether
is
the
sheriff's
office
or
whether
it's
state
troopers
in
all
the
communities.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
that.
M
Q
That
happens,
unfortunately,
right
now,
what
we
saw
was,
as
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
people
out
on
the
street
as
witnesses
and
and
such
that
a
lot
more
shots
were
being
fired.
So
we
were
having
more
more
people
shot
in
instances,
so
I
can't
really
pinpoint
and
say
that
it's
gang
or
drug-related
I
would
definitely
say
that
it
really
depends
on
the
case.
You
know
a
lot
of
times.
Q
We
find
that
there's
there's
no
good
solid
reason
for
why
one
group
is
firing
in
our
other
or
that
they
they
don't
know
exactly
just
that
they
didn't
get
along
at
one
point,
so
that
there's
something
there's
definitely
some
of
that,
but
some
of
it
is
a
lot
of
personal
vendetta.
People
thinking
that
they're
wrong
by
the
other
person
would
be
poured
on
us.
Q
R
D
L
P
Think,
with
the
firecrackers
fireworks
I,
when
I
was
nine
months
pregnant
and
not
getting
much
sleep,
my
doctor
said
you
know
that
can
cause
psychosis
and
I
do
feel
like
people's
mental
health
and
well-being
is
being
dramatically
affected
by
this,
and
I'm
remain
a
little
bit
confused
as
to
what
the
police
department
is
doing
about.
This
I
have
shared
with
people
but
they're
supposed
to
call
the
non-emergency
number
I've,
provided
that
information
I've
asked
them
if
they
can
provide
the
location.
P
P
You
know
they
didn't,
stop
they
and
get
out
of
their
car
look
around
etc,
and
she
had
identified
that
it
was
either
the
house
next
to
her
or
two
houses
away.
So
the
she
found
the
lack
of
inquiry
to
be
distressing
and
then
I
think
it
was
last
night.
There
was
no
response
to
this
and
I
and
I'm
I'm
hearing
the
same
thing
from
residents
all
for
us,
my
ward,
I
think
in
some
cases,
but
she's
complaining.
P
That
is
what
some
of
the
residents
three
blocks
over
are
complaining
about,
and
this
is
going
on
at
10
o'clock
at
night
11
o'clock
at
night,
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
one
of
the
things
I
don't
get
is
while
people
say
well,
there's
this
ambiguity
in
the
county
law.
This
is
all
clearly
a
violation
of
our
noise
noise
ordinance
and,
if
not,
then
I
want
to
know
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
council
in
order
to
make
it
clear
that
is
actionable
that
that
this
is
a
violation,
etcetera.
P
You
know
conscious
to
some
extent,
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
aren't
going
to
care,
so
we
do
need
for
the
police
to
be
actively
looking
at
these
situations
bothering
to
get
at
their
car
and
educating
people
regarding
the
noise
ordinance
and-
and
you
know
what
they're
doing
with
regard
to
locally,
whether
it
violates
law
a
in
most
cases,
I
would
imagine
it
does.
So.
Q
So
I
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear
and
I
we've
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
about
the
fireworks
and
and
and
we
do
take
them
serious
I-
can't
remember
a
time
in
my
career
that
there's
been
so
many
fireworks
here
on
the
city.
It
seems
like
I,
don't
know
where
they're
coming
from
you
know,
obviously
out
of
state
I.
Think
a
lot
of
this
stuff
is
coming
in
now
closely
from
like
New
Hampshire,
but
you
know
I
think
the
law
changes
will
help
us
out.
Q
I
do
think
we
can
do
I
do
think
we
can
do
a
better
job
with
some
of
the
enforcement
stuff
for
the
noise
ordinance
that
that's
a
good
suggestion.
I
appreciate
the
suggestion
we
I
will
look
at
what
our
response
is
to
the
fireworks
calls.
We
are
getting
an
inordinate
amount
of
calls
for
service
for
that.
So
that
is
something
we
will
definitely
look
at
I.
Think
you
know
part
of
what
has
contributed
to.
It
is
the
fact
that
you
know
the
fourth
of
July
fireworks.
Q
E
Chief
before
we
Sonia
Frank
said
before
we
get
the
Sonya
I
have
to
make
this
point,
and
it's
very
it's
critical.
These
are
not
fireworks
that
people
are
just
running
around
the
city
setting
off
different
places.
These
are
fireworks
displays.
So
it's
hard
for
me
to
understand
how
no
one
has
been
sighted.
No
one
has
been
brought
up
on
anything
with
these
are
fireworks
displays.
We
had
two
major
display
of
fireworks,
one
on
one
in
the
middle
of
Central
Avenue,
and
no
one
was
ticketed
charge,
nothing
police
came
robot.
E
We
had
a
major
firework
display
illegal
in
Washington,
Park,
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
neighborhood
was
calling
all
night
later
in
a
minute.
The
next
day
you
see
these
big
fire,
so
they
they
camped
out
there.
They
set
off
these
illegal
fireworks
and
we
did
not
issue
what
explain
that
I'm
pretty
sure
those
people
got
those
they
ducked
at
the
police
department
got
those
calls.
These
were
not
people
picking
up
running
they
had
fireworks.
Displays
like
it
was
a
major
firework
carnival
that
they
had
to
make
to
do.
E
If
how
if
we
can't
prevent
that,
there's
something
wrong
here,
just
there's
something
wrong.
These
were
major
displays.
These
weren't,
like
somebody
shooting
them
off
and
moving
on
the
next
place,
cops
come
they
run.
These
were
camped
out.
Major
like
like
they
have
a
deposit.
Can
you
explain
how
no
one
was
decided
in
that
Washington
Park?
That's
because
I
know
they
in
Richard
Hockey
probably
could
attest
to
that.
I
saw
the
next
day,
yeah.
Q
I
think
I
think
the
Washington
Park
incident
in
particular
was
a
difficult
incident
for
us,
because
there
was
a
lot
of
tension
in
the
community.
That
night
we
had
just
had
a
big
rally.
We
also
just
had
you
know
the
and
since
at
South
Station
and
at
headquarters
with
you
know,
with
some
members
of
the
community,
so
I
think
you
know
that
was
associated
with
one
of
the
marches
that
had
went
down
through
the
city
or
that
day
and
I
think
you
know.
Q
Given
the
circumstances,
we
had
kind
of
made
a
decision
that
you
know
we
were
going
to
monitor
that
activity,
but
we
weren't
going
to
necessarily
chase
anybody
around
and
Washington
Park
in
the
middle
of
the
night
over
the
fireworks,
so
that
was
kind
of
the
decision
that
was
that
was
made.
That
falls
upon
me
but
again
going
forward.
I
will
hear
what
you're
saying
I
hear
you
guys
loud
and
clear.
We
will
look
into
the
fireworks
issue
more
seriously.
Thank.
E
You
for
that
that
answer.
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
that
I
think.
Sometimes
we
get
lost
when
our
law
enforcement
officers
do
tell
us
hey.
This
is
what
happened.
We
have
to
accept
it
and
they
said
I'm
gonna
do
better
and
we
move
on.
So
thank
you,
miss
Fredrick's.
Has
it
her
end
up
and
then
and
it's
paralyzing.
R
Yep,
thank
you,
hi
deputy
Hogan,
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
I
just
want
to
also
express
my
frustration
on
the
topic
of
fireworks.
Inspiron
it
right
now.
I've
had
many
constituents
call
D
non-emergent
line
and
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
the
feedback
I
received
is
that
they
are
very
the
individuals
that
answer.
That
line
seem
to
write
off
a
firework
call
at
2
3
m
in
the
morning.
They
give
sort
of
nonchalant
responses
that
they'll
look
into
it
and
then
nothing
happens
and
that's
very
concerning
I.
R
Think
council
members
have
already
echoed
the
fact
of
PTSD.
Ptsd
comes
in
many
different
forms:
veterans,
people
of
domestic
violence,
abuse
people
that
have
had
gunshots
and
things
happen
in
the
past.
So
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
any
increased
plans
for
the
upcoming
holiday
weekend,
just
expecting
fireworks
to
be
more
populous
even
more
so
throughout
the
city.
Q
We
do
we've
increased
our
patrol
numbers
for
the
weekend.
We've
added
some
detail
officers
for
the
weekend
for
obviously
for
the
violence,
and
we
you
know
for
the
fireworks
activity
and
we
have
a
we'll,
have
a
four
man
team
out
with
a
supervisor
that
will
be
doing
some
of
the
firework
abatement
issues
as
well.
So
I
will
I
will
look
into
the
non-emergency
number
stuff.
Q
Q
L
Q
L
S
Thanks
I
just
wanted
to
note
on
the
the
Washington
Park
firework
thing:
I
was
at
a
community
meeting
in
the
Arbor
hill
by
the
basketball
court
by
the
are
both
Arbor
Hill
softball
fields,
and
there
was
a
similar
right
before
they
started
the
community
meeting.
They
were
sweeping
up
a
similar
sized
firework
thing
so
that
wasn't
an
anomaly
it's
happening
in
other
places
throughout
the
city
and
it
shouldn't
be
seen
as
an
anomaly,
because
maybe
that
space
was
an
anomaly
for
that.
S
Q
B
B
Q
Q
B
Be
great
and
I'll
ask
this
because
diversity
within
our
Police
Department
is
a
huge
issue,
and
many
of
us
on
the
council
talked
about
this
year.
In
a
year
out,
Cory
has
been
talking
about
having
a
cadet
program
that
starts
at
the
middle
school
level,
and
you
see
the
recent
you
know
I
witness
some
of
the
pictures
and
also
got
to
see
the
cadets.
You
know
we
talked
about
diversity,
I
think
it's
time
that
we
make
a
concentrated
effort
it,
as
relates
to
improving
that
the
lack
of
diversity
that
exists
in
the
police
department.
B
So
if
you
could
share
with
us-
and
also
maybe
just
you
know,
communicate
to
the
chief
that
this
is
something
that
we're
really
passionate
about,
that
we
want
to
see
some
improvement
and,
if
there's
anything,
that
the
counselor
could
do
to
improve
these
numbers,
we're
open
to
it.
So
if
you
could
send
us
the
racial
background
make
up
to
a
legislative
aide,
that
would
be
great,
absolutely.
O
That's
not
mom
yeah.
You
know,
like
I,
didn't
go
here
to
ask
him
this
question,
but
I'm
listening
to
his
response,
and
so
like
you
know,
we've
been
having
a
firework
problem
for
the
last
three
years
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
be
out
there
as
a
as
a
resident,
videotaping
police
ride
by
fireworks
going
off.
You
know,
but
I
also
don't
want
to
sit
here
at
the
table
and
listening
to
like
we
don't
know,
what's
going
on,
you
know
because
we're
not
addressing
it.
O
So,
like
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
the
ongoing
response
that
we're
hearing
to
anything
that
comes
from
the
you
know
from
the
community
or
the
the
workers
like
you
know,
like
we
don't
know
what's
going
on,
and
so
we
we
would
expect
in
a
second
war
and
and
throughout
the
whole
city
that
it's
a
plan.
That's
going
to
be
effective
immediately
because
these
calls
are
are
unrelentless
and
even
when
you
walk
through
the
city,
the
conversation
is
unrelentless
about
fireworks.
E
E
We
don't
want
to
engage
that
way,
because
mr.
Johnson
said
there's
too
many
videos
of
people
watching
our
our
officers
drive
box
when
they
report.
So
if
that's
detective
going
to
take
I
mean
the
leadership
of
the
council
needs
to
be
alerted,
at
least
so
that
we
understand
so
so
we
can
be
advocates
for
the
job
you
guys
do.
We
know
it's
tough
right
now
with
every.
We
understand
that
we
do
understand
our
Police
Department
right
now
they
don't
want
to
heavy-handed.
E
R
Thank
you
I.
Just
redirect
me
in
conversation
back
to
the
violence,
I
had
a
question
about
the
state
and
the
other
local
police
forces
that
are
coming
in
to
assist
I
heard
that
they're
riding
along
with
Albany
police
police
men,
police
women,
is
that
indefinitely
until
they
go
back
to
their
normal
services,
are
they
doing
that
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
then
they're
going
to
patrol
alone.
Q
We've
had
conversations
with
them
that
they're
offering
their
services
until
we
tell
them
to
scale
back
or
that
we're
able
to
you
know
we're
able
to
move
forward
with
normal
operations
again.
Some
of
it
is
the
the
times
that
we
are
living
in
right
now
in
the
fact
that
there
are
times
where
it's
safer,
obviously
for
officers
to
have
a
partner.
So
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
have
our
officers
have
an
extra
set
of
eyes
with
them.
You
know
routines
crime
scenes
now
or
you
know,
routine
incidents.
Q
Even
traffic
accidents
tend
to
generate
a
lot
of
people
coming
to
the
scene.
To
look
and
to
comment-
and
you
know
some
of
them
are
antagonistic-
some
of
them
are
just
they're.
Out
of
curiosity,
obviously-
and
you
know,
this
is
a
good
opportunity
as
well
for
us
to
make
sure
that
our
guys
are
safe,
and
you
know
it's
great
to
have
those
partnerships,
but
they
are
there
they're
there
until
they've,
given
us
an
agreement,
basically
that
they're
around,
until
until
we
don't
okay.
R
Q
R
A
Yes,
yeah,
so
what
I
would
actually
say
along
the
lines
of
the
fireworks
and
having
Albany
County,
repeal
that's
person
that
actually
had
a
bit
of
experience
enforcing
fireworks
laws?
The
repeal
is
gonna
help,
because
right
now
all
fireworks
are
allowed
so
having
an
officer
discern
between
what's
legit
and
what's
not
it
just
that
it
adds
confusion
if
no
fireworks
are
allowed
beyond
sparklers.
You
know,
and
of
course
we
have
commercial
shows
which
those
those
folks
and
licensed
it
would
be
really
really
helpful
to
the
police
department
to
only
it.
A
A
Sure
most
members
wouldn't
want
to
see
a
video
on
YouTube
or
Facebook
or
whatever,
where
an
officer
is
intervening
trying
to
correct
some
issues
around
fireworks
and
have
someone
get
hurt
or
see
them
rolling
around
on
the
ground
or
god
forbid,
someone
get
shot.
You
know
during
that
interaction,
so
I
think
the
county
repealing
would
be
very
helpful
in
moving
forward.
A
It
would
make
the
Albany
Police
Department
and
law
enforcement
in
general
in
the
city
and
for
some
fireworks
laws,
and
they
could
drive
a
lot
easier
so
that
that's
that
what
I
would
like
to
do
and
I
know
members
are
trying
to
get
out
of
here-
is
have
miss
Farrell.
Do
the
updates
for
crimeans
financials
and
our
leadership.
S
S
S
S
We
also
most
of
our
discussion
was
on
the
police
reform
committee.
It
doesn't
have
an
official
name
yet
that
was
mandated
by
the
governor's
office
to
look
at
police
reforms
within
Albany
and
what
the
makeup
of
that
will
be.
So
we
they're
expecting
to
have
at
least
30
people
in
it.
There
are
mandated
pieces
to
it
so
in
terms
of
internal
or
not
internal,
but
in
terms
of
I
would
say
county
level.
They're.
S
I
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
at
at
least
some
members
and
internally
about
exactly
where
the
police
union
is
and
there's
an
article
78
proceeding
against
the
current
head.
So
who
is
actually
representative
so
they're
going
to
have?
The
chief
will
be
involved,
the
two
deputy
chiefs,
so
I'm,
assuming
we'll
see
it
mr.
Hogan
there
and
patrol
then
will
be
representative
from
Patrol
from
the
sergeants
and
lieutenants
and
the
detectives
they're
also
going
to
talk
about.
They
also
talked
about
community
groups.
S
One
of
the
big
issues
with
community
groups
is,
there
are
so
many
of
them,
so
she
talked
about
she's.
Still
working
through
exactly
what
those
community
groups
will
be,
but
definitely
act,
act,
CPR
be
Human,
Rights,
Commission
and
snug.
There's
a
lot
of
other
possibilities
and
I
would
say:
if
there's
any
specific
groups
that
you
believe
should
be
involved,
then
I
would
recommend
to
share
that
with
David
gallon
and
to
kind
of
let
him
know
if
there's
any
other
ideas
that
you
have
on
that.
S
She
also
talked
about
it's
kind
of
a
challenge
because
there's
a
lot
of
really
great
group.
So
they
were
talking
about
having
specific
topic
meetings
or
a
series
of
meetings
where
more
community
to
be
involved
and
so
to
kind
of
have
that
input
and
the
school
district
will
also
be
participating
with
it
and
and
the
expectation
that
they're
having
is
to
have
this
group
would
get
its
own
set
of
implicit
bias,
training
and
have
some
training.
S
So
they
can
kind
of
go
into
the
process
and
have
like
a
really
meaty
process
to
get
some
good
reforms.
In
the
end.
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
with
in
leadership
is
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
something
that,
as
many
members
and
members
of
the
public
could
watch
and
participate
as
possible.
S
The
mayor
talked
about
how
sometimes
it's
difficult
to
talk
about
certain
things
and
she
wanted
an
open
process
so
having
something
that
was
very
public
might
be
difficult,
but
the
other
side
of
that
is
in
order
to
have
really
strong
buy-in.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
as
many
people
who
want
to
be
watching
the
process
and
feeling
part
of
it
feeling
like
their
voices
are
heard,
then
it
really
needs
to
be
something
that
is
interactive
and
that
people
can
see
so
there
that
core
group
would
certainly
put
forward
the
reforms.
S
But
anybody-
that's
not
part
of
that
core
group
should
be
able
to
see
that
process
and
have
their
own
buy-in
make
sure
that
their
voice
is
heard
through
it.
She
talked
a
bit
about
one
some
of
the
process
that
they're
seeing
so
kind
of
bringing
people
together,
look
digging
in
on
police
policies,
how
the
police
policies
were
created,
that
a
lot
of
them
were
driven
by
being
kaliya
accredited,
which
is
that
21st
century
policing,
piece
and
officer
Hogan.
If
I'm
missing
anything,
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
correct
me
and.
S
S
So
that's
something
they're
I
asked
about,
because
I
think
that
would
be
interesting
to
do.
I
know
it's
a
big
commitment
but
I'm
sure
several
council
members
would
also
like
to
do
that
and
they're.
So
they're
gonna.
Let
us
know
the
next
time
that
they
have
a
class
that
they're
able
to
offer
that
with
COBIT.
S
I
A
No,
no
and
then
just
I
mean
I'm.
A
mayor
had
mentioned
how,
in
some
of
the
spots,
thirty
people,
that's
a
lot
I
mean
that's
a
lot
for
the
reforms
we
were
talking
about.
The
reforms
right
missed
that,
so
our
proposal
would
be
for
the
head
of
Finance
had
a
Public
Safety
in
the
head
of
Human
Rights
to
be
a
part
of
of
that
committee.
We
want
obviously
community
input
and,
of
course,
council
president
Ellis
would
be
a
part
of
that.
A
That
group
also
I
mean
whatever
it
takes
to
get
us
to
the
correct
reforms
and,
what's
going
to
be
best
for
our
folks,
will
do
well,
I
mean
it's
it's
a
dynamic
process.
I
mean
we
again.
There
are
a
lot
of
stuff,
that's
subject
to
change.
I
think
the
idea
is
to
get
the
most
input
from
from
the
most
folks
and
especially
impact
the
communities
that
that's
really
important
in
this
process.
A
I
Because
you
know
I've
been
watching
the
governor
everyday
and
I've
been
sending
out
my
reports.
Do
you
folks,
when
it
when
it
happens?
The
governor
specifically
said
this
is
the
legislate
of
laws,
so
we
are
going
to
have
to
vote
on
it
at
some
point.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
what
the
executive
order
said
that
the
legislature
branch
of
the
municipality
should
vote
on
it.
I
S
That
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about,
and
it
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
but
I
said
I
mean
the
mayor
initially
said
to
us
that
she
was
expecting
to
have
the
president
of
the
Common
Council
and
the
chair
of
Public
Safety
from
the
Common
Council
representative,
and
that
was
it
in
turn
kind
of
owning
these
two
separate
sides.
You
can't
have
an
unwieldy
committee,
it's
not
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have
the
entire
council
on
the
committee.
S
However,
if
you
want
to
have
buy-in
from
the
council
and
ensure
that
we
are
all
able
to
talk
about
it
in
an
intelligent
way,
understand
it
and
believe
in
it
enough
to
vote,
then
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
were
pushing
to
make
sure
that,
yes,
there
we
are
able
to
participate
and
the
other
thing
is
I'm.
Assuming
every
member
wants
to
see
this
you
know
wants
to
watch
the
to
know.
What's
going
on,
I
mean
this
is
something
that
this
is
happening.
S
This
is
impacting
all
of
our
residents
in
the
city
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
properly
representing
the
city
as
a
whole
and
it's
going
to
take
buy-in
from
the
entire
city.
So
Joe
I
see
your
hand.
Judy
put
her
virtual
hand
up
first,
so
I'll
get
you
after
just
show
me
some
fun
Judy,
oh,
but
Judy,
you're,
muted,.
P
A
Why
I
think
we
really
really
need
to
be
a
part
of
the
process,
and
I
would
argue
that,
since
we
can
all
be
a
part
of
it
that,
through
our
discussions,
that
that,
if
members
have
issues
or
want
to
give
input
that
we
have
our
discussions
and
and
the
representatives
that
will
be
a
part
of
that
committee-
represent
the
interest
of
the
council
when
we're
having
those
discussions,
because
I
mean
clear
it's
clear,
we
have
to
sign
off
on
this,
so
we
have
a
safe.
We
clearly
have
to
say:
okay,.
P
S
P
You
guys
are
having
the
conversation
about
what
is
the
process
and
what
is
the
membership
and
I'm
basically
saying
as
a
council
member
I
think
the
council
leadership
you
know,
so
can
all
you
know
sending
our
little
comments.
I
really
think
the
council
leadership
should
have
somebody
who
is
looked
at
these
issues.
P
P
A
Right
and
I
would
say
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
mayor,
but
through
conversations
between
you
know
with
her
and
her
administration
staff,
those
names
have
come
off.
Those
names
have
always
been
a
part
of
the
conversation
of
regarding
policing
in
the
city,
so
they
yeah
they're
being
talked
about
they're
gonna
be
included,
so,
if
not
included
by
her,
although
we've
had
those
conversations
they'll
be
put
forth
by
us.
L
A
And
and
I
do
agree
to
an
extent,
but
some
of
the
reforms
with
the
CPR
be
and
some
of
the
stuff
who
were
trying
to
do
I
mean
we
were
going
forward
with
that
stuff,
whether
the
governor
repealed
58
or
the
much
central
repeal,
50
or
not
and
there's
some
things
that
are
our
wheelhouse
in
our
control.
There
was
an
interest
expressed
by
the
mayor
and
being
in
you
know,
having
joint
conversations
and
moving
forward
with
this
stuff
which
which
we
will
do,
but
some
of
the
reforms
were
proposing.
L
A
A
L
A
A
Again,
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
that
for
waste
time
or
any
of
that
stuff.
I
think
we're
all
on
in
general
on
the
same
page.
So
when
we're
having
those
conversations,
I
think
we'll
respect
what
folks
say:
they'll
be
part
of
the
process,
and-
and
it's
not
about
us-
it's
about
it's
about
them
and
what's
but
what's
best
for
the
community.
B
B
Just
want
to
say
that
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
some
of
the
stuff
that
I'm
hearing
on
this
issue
from
my
understanding,
I
thought.
The
governor
wanted
the
legislative
body
of
the
municipality
to
lead
on
this
I'm
hearing
sending
stuff
to
the
mayor's
office
sent
his
stuff
to
David.
I
mean
I,
was
on
a
depression
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
I
was
in
an
impression
that
the
governor
wanted
the
legislative
body
to
lead
on
this
issue.
B
A
So,
but
no
no
we're
not
deferring
our
responsibilities
or
not
doing
what
we
need
to
do
again,
regardless
of
what
the
governor
said
or
offered
up
and
its
executive
order,
we're
already
moving
in
that
direction.
Prior
to
that,
we
don't
need
the
governor
okay,
what
we're
doing
as
a
body
if
we
agree
on
these
things,
we
move
we'll
move
forward
with
it.
We'll
have
hearty
and
thoughtful
discussions
on
this
and
accordingly,
we
again
what
the
governor
his
executive
order,
doesn't
govern.
A
C
J
A
So
I
would
say
that,
as
a
part
of
our
leadership
meetings
of
the
mayor
discussed
and
actually
kind
of
had
a
request
that
we
kind
of
move
along
together
and
in
do
that.
That
kind
of
thing
but
I,
think
we
have
an
opportunity
and
we
have
our
voice
and
we
we
again,
we
don't
need
to
require
that
that
executive
order,
but
also,
unlike
members,
to
think
that
we're
all
of
us
are
thinking
the
same,
we're
moving
in
the
same
direction.
A
The
reforms
are
the
same:
Balu
I,
don't
wanna.
My
conversation
to
the
mayor
was
that,
okay,
once
we
take
into
consideration
what
you're
thinking
and
what
you
would
like
to
happen,
but
we're
we're
gonna,
take
that
into
consideration
and
move
forward,
and
that
was
the
part
of
the
leadership
conversation.
A
O
Go
I
disagree,
part
of
the
reason
that,
were
you
know
that
contribute
to
what
we're
in
now
is
because
we
got
a
bunch
of
people
that
you
know
pretty
much.
Don't
have
the
contacts
with
the
community
like
that.
You
know
like
it
has
been
in
the
past
and
like
when
you
don't
have
those
relationships
in
the
community
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
deal
with
the
storm
that
we
just
dealt
with,
and
so
I
think
that
people's
concern
about
the
corner
office
having
control
over
that
is
just
like
we're
making
another
to
me.
Another.
O
A
Right
and
what
I'm
saying
is
for
our
effort
in
this
are
the
reforms
we
just
put
forth
in
resolutions
and
ordinances
that
that's
that's
our.
So
it's
not
it's
not
even
having
input.
We
have
total
input
net.
We
control
that
process.
We
it's
not
I,
understand
what
you're
saying
you
want
to
have
a
voice
in
this
larger
committee,
but
some
of
the
things
that
we're
putting
forth
the
reforms
that
we're
putting
forth
that
those
are
ours.
We
don't
we
control
that
so
I
don't
want
to
expand
your
if.
S
I
could
just
jump
in
I.
What
I
would
say
is,
but
you
Sue
and
Derek.
We
agree
and
I'm
I'm
glad
that
you're
talking
about
these
different
things,
because
it
it
does
matter
it
does
matter
exactly
to
push
forward
with
certain
things
we're
gonna
vote
on
it.
We
have
to
have
by
it,
and
so
that's
a
lot
of
what
we've
talked
about
with
the
transparency
of
the
process,
but
you're
right
I
mean
in
Judy
mentioned
it
too.
S
We
should
have
a
say
in
exactly
who
was
who's
in
the
committee
and
so
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
certainly
bring
up
and
say:
listen
as
a
as
a
body.
That's
going
to
have
to
vote
on
this.
We
want
to
say
and
who's
at
the
table
and
we're
not
going
to
be
comfortable
voting
on
this
unless
we
have
more
of
a
say
on
exactly
who's
going
to
be
at
the
table
and
who's
going
to
be
part
of
the
process.
So.
A
I
agree,
I
agree,
but
lastly,
my
argument
is
that
for
the
stuff
that
we're
doing,
we
are
the
process
we
we
want
buy-in
from
the
community,
so
we
control
and
our
we
oversee
that
process.
So,
while
the
executive
order
and
the
charge
from
the
governor
is
important,
I
personally
I
think
anything
that
we
would
do,
and
our
capacity
is
as
legislators
here
in
the
city
will
have
a
far
greater
impact.
O
The
people
are
talking
Calley
and
it's
just
we
can't
get.
You
know
we
can't
ignore
the
people's
concerns,
and
you
know
the
governor
heard
it
and
it
looks
like
the
governor
is
expecting
local
leaders
to
do
something
about
it
and
you
know
I
think
every
you
know.
You
heard
it
from
three
different
people
that
you
know
probably
didn't
talk
before
we
got
on
this
call
and-
and
it's
pretty
consistent
that
you
know
we
want
to
be.
O
C
C
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C
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N
Yes,
you
can
come
in
it's
open
to
the
general
public.
Your
badges
are
available.
The
only
thing
that
you'll
see
that's
different
is
you
have
to
walk
through
the
ropes
and
go
through
the
x-ray
machines,
but
you
have
full
and
complete
access.
There
are
new
security
guards
that
are
down
there,
so
they
may
not
be
familiar
with
all
your
wonderful
faces
and
I
apologize,
because
I
was
almost
prohibited
from
coming
in
by
one
of
the
police
officers,
so
yeah.
C
S
C
I
N
We
have
resumed
offering
many
of
our
services
we're
just
doing
them
by
appointment
only
to
allow
us
to
disinfect
in
between
customers
due
to
kovat
occupancy.
We
only
have
three
members
from
the
general
public,
so
we
can
only
offer
assistance
to
three
customers
at
a
time
and
it's
you
know
better
to
schedule.
The
only
thing
with
the
passport
process
that
we
are
not
providing
is
photos
because
photos
require
them
to
take
their
masks
off
and
extends
the
process
and
I
think
with
research.
N
If
you're
exposed
to
someone
15
minutes
or
more,
the
likelihood
of
transmission
of
kovat
increases,
so
we're
trying
to
factor
all
of
that
in
I
could
tell
you
that
at
the
Department
of
State,
they
have
issued
an
alert
to
us
to.
Let
us
know
that
I
think
on
average
the
process
once
they
get.
Your
application
is
about
10
to
12
weeks,
they're,
not
able
to
turn
them
around
as
fast
as
they
were
in
the
past,
because
they're
still
operate
with
reduced
staffing.