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From YouTube: June 17, 2021 Caucus
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Discussed the June 21, 2021 Meeting Agenda
A
Welcome
welcome
to
the
albany
common
council's
caucus
and
work
session,
wednesday
june
16th,
2021
I'll
just
call
out
the
members
that
are
here
or
folks
that
are
here
for
the
record
prior
to
to
getting
further
to
the
meeting
council
members,
conti,
o'brien,
fahey,
howie,
myself,
kimbrough
council,
president
ellis.
We
have
our
staff
j.r,
pachardo
research
council,
our
clerk,
danielle
gillespie,
as
well
as
brett
williams,
corporation
council,
and
we
have
with
us
members
of
our
milimented
members
of
our
municipal
internet
commission.
A
Councilmember,
frederick,
has
always
also
joined
us.
So
with
with
that,
what
I'll
do
is
before
getting
into
our
agenda?
Have
you
know
each
of
you,
as
new
members
of
the
commission,
just
introduce
yourself
to
the
council
members
here
and
if
they
have
any
questions,
they
can
ask
you
and
what
I
would
do
is
start
with.
E
My
name
is
scott
gerzombeck.
I
am
a
resident
of
albany.
I
live
on
cakely
street
over
off
of
new
scotland,
the
buckingham
pond
area.
Most
of
you
know
me
through
my
day
job
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
albany
public
library
and
have
been
a
librarian
and
in
the
field
of
information
science
for
most
of
my
career
in
the
city
of
albany.
For
the
last
seven
years,
I've
been
the
executive
director
which
kelly.
I
know
that
sounds
crazy.
I
think
it's
been
that
long,
but
that's
that's
me.
F
Okay,
I'm
good
at
good
evening.
Council
members,
my
name
is
martin
robinson,
I
don't
live
in
the
city
of
albany,
but
I
do
work
in
downtown
albany.
I
am
very
much
you
know
happy
to
work
with
everyone
on
this
commission
and
you
know
I.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
of
me
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
them.
A
D
G
D
D
D
A
A
You,
okay,
all
right
so
into
I!
Actually
you
know
what
just
just
go
through
one
more
time
since
they're
off
now,
our
our
folks
on
the
that
commission
would
be
ira,
bethea,
caitlyn,
mongeau,
martin,
robinson
cara,
haute
and
scott
jarzonback,
going
right
into
the
hey
kelly,
I'm
sorry
to
bother
you
no
no
bother.
A
Yep,
no!
Thank
you.
No
okay!
So
going
into
the
agenda,
we
have
the
public
hearing
for
mr
shay's
ordinance,
1861-21,
which
which
we'll
be
having
to
start
with
and
and
miss
o'shea
that
we're
going
to
have
the
hearing
for
that.
But
did
you
want
to
pass
the
the
actual
ordinance
during
that
meeting,
or
was
it
just?
L
L
And
the
planning
department
is
on
board
with
this
and
and
as
I've
mentioned
previously,
this
came
up
in
discussions
of
the
planning
committee
as
we
are
looking
at.
The
comprehensive
review
of
the
us
d.o
and
the
planning
department
continues
to
be
swamped
and
has
not
been
able
to
come
up
with
standards
for
us
to
adopt
now
so,
hopefully,
by
the
time
we're
adopting
the
entire
comprehensive
revision
of
the
usdo,
we
will
have
standards
and
then
we
don't
need
to
extend
this
suspension
any
longer.
B
C
M
N
The
reason
why
I
kind
of
got
involved
is
there
was
a
young
lady
that
lived
in
the
city
who
was
going
to
the
11th
grade,
who
mentioned
to
me
that
she
wanted
to
be
a
computer
programmer,
and
so
I
gave
her
information
that
she
could.
You
know,
get
online
and
do
some
self-learning
come
to
realize
that
she
didn't
have
internet
access
in
her
home
and
she
hadn't
had
it
and
she
was
in
the
11th
grade
going
to
the
11th
grade,
and
that
was
kind
of
heartbreaking
to
me.
N
How
some
communities
across
the
the
this
the
country
were
actually
getting
this
done
and
what
we
needed
to
do
here
in
new
york
state.
Unfortunately,
you
know
with
change
in
administration.
You
know
a
few
years
later.
You
know
we
never
really
were
able
to
to
to
get
to
the
point
where
dazny
was
able
to
do
any
financings
there
or
create
any
internal
policies
to
do
such
a
thing.
N
So
this
all
started
just
from
looking
at
the
digital
divide
issue,
but
it
also
made
me
recognize
that
you
know
you
know
economic
development
for
this
century
and
beyond
is
really
going
to
be
based
on
access.
Only
three
percent
of
the
country
has
fiber
now
I
know
that
kathy
had
come
to
us
after
eight
months
into
her
administration
when
she
first
ran
after
she
had
met
with
mayors
and
understood
that
this
was
one
of
the
top
three
initiatives
in
every
mayor's
agenda
as
part
of
the
urban
agenda.
N
N
We
selected
the
firm
we
went
through
the
process
and
they
came
back
with
a
3
million
plan
of
upgrading.
You
know
the
wireless
technology
around
the
city
and
they
were
able
to
document
all
the
assets
that
were
there.
There
was
also
a
possibility
of
a
47
million
dollar
plan,
which
would
have
met
more
with
the
goals
and
objectives
that
that
art
and
I
and
other
people
in
the
industry
would
would
like
cities
to
really
go
forward
with,
but
that's
like
a
seven
to
ten
year
initiative.
N
Probably
the
cost
is
different
today,
but
over
the
time
period
from
eight
years
ago
to
now,
the
technology
has
changed
how
they
approach,
building
out
that
kind
of
infrastructure
has
gotten
a
lot
cheaper.
It
used
to
be
that
they
would
say
the
municipalities
if
you
dig
once,
in
other
words,
if
you're
doing
a
dig
to
you
know
to
put
in
new
sewer
drainage,
water,
water
drains
or
sewer
pipes,
water
pipes
that
you
should
then
lay
conduit
at
that
point
in
time.
N
For
fiber,
but
the
reality
is
that
fiber's
not
affected
by
going
four
feet
down.
You
could
do
micro,
trenching
today,
and
so
we
started
talking
to,
and
that
would
only
require
you
to
go
four
inches
to
eight
inches
down
in
the
ground,
so
the
cost
of
doing
that
is
much
cheaper
to
lay
fiber.
One
of
the
things
that
we
recognize
in
our
pursuits
is
that
the
throughway
authority
in
its
524
miles
of
fiber
that
it
ran
years
ago
for
the
for
the
for
the
you
know
easy
pass.
N
They
also
went
back
and
laid
an
additional
524
miles
of
what
we
call
dark
fiber,
which
means
that
it's
not
being
used,
and
they
did
that
intentionally
so
that
they
would
be
able
to
lease
dark
fiber
to
municipalities.
Now
we're
right
here
at
the
throughway.
Most
people
don't
know
that
that's
a
possibility.
N
So
I've
been
working
on
this
issue.
You
know
again
for
the
past
eight
years
with
different
groups
of
people
on
the
national
level
very
much
involved
at
the
tail
end
on
the
obama
piece
when
they
first
did
the
e-rate
monies
for
libraries.
You
know
we
had.
We
were
involved
in
some
of
that,
but
the
passion
to
get
this
done
and
to
get
it
done
in
the
right
way
at
a
scale
that
makes
sense
that
would
bring
the
city
of
albany
really
into
the
future.
N
If
you
want
to
talk
about
growth
of
businesses
wanting
to
come
to
a
region,
no
one
wants
to
go
anywhere
where
you
know
there
is
no
fiber
and
the
comparison
just
to
let
so
you
understand
the
difference
in
terms
of
just
any
kind
of
broadband
versus
what
we
and
what
we
have
today
versus
what
we
could
have.
If
I'll
give
you
an
analogy,
if
it
takes
two
and
a
half
hours
to
get
from
new
york.
N
I
don't
know
I
didn't
touch
anything
okay,
yeah
yep,
I
didn't
touch
anything.
Maybe
I
hit
something,
but
if
it
takes
two
and
a
half
hours
to
travel
from
new
york
city
to
albany,
if
you
could
imagine
that's
what
we
have
today
in
terms
of
broadband
cable
access,
you
know,
copper
fiber
would
take
0.9
seconds
to
travel
that
same
distance.
That's
the
analogy!
N
If
you
have
only
three
lanes
going
in
each
direction
in
terms
of
capacity,
then
fiber
would
give
you
600
lanes
going
in
each
direction,
so
you
would
never
have
the
kind
of
traffic
and
loads
that's
what
businesses
expect
for
the
future.
You
know
every
municipality
really
understands
this.
Then,
as
we
were
speaking
around
the
state
to
many
municipalities,
they
began
to
get
it.
N
They
began
to
understand
that
fiber
to
the
premises
of
fiber
to
the
home,
farmers
to
the
businesses
was
really
the
way
to
go,
and
that's
I'm
a
strong
advocate
for
that.
The
unique
position
that
albany
the
city
of
albany
is
in
is
that
we
have
per
capita
a
high
density
of
what
we
would
call
anchor
institutions.
N
We
call
them
that
at
the
dormitory
authority
we
finance
colleges
and
universities
right
school
districts
and
we
also
hospitals
and
so
forth
and
in
any
community.
Those
are
anchor
institutions
right
in
the
north
country.
They
have
an
authority
that
really
focused
on
getting
their
anchor
institutions
to
help
them
finance
the
backbone
of
the
infrastructure
that
was
necessary
in
the
city
of
albany.
We
have
so
many
government.
A
N
A
N
L
The
committee
just
to
be
clear,
the
committee
has
made
its
recommendations
and
you
are
one
of
the
recommendations,
and
this
is
just
generally
considered
a
formality
when
we
bring
people
back
in
to
see
if
council
members
have
any
questions
and
want
to
know
a
little
bit
before
they
actually
vote
on
you.
But
there's
general
deference
to
what
the
committee
recommendations
are.
Yeah.
A
N
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
judy.
I
I
again.
I
often
forget
you
know
we
do
give
deference
to
the
committees
and
I
got
a
little
ahead
of
myself,
but
he
knows
a
lot
he's
a
computer
tech
technology
person
so
and
I've
had
lots
of
conversations
with
him.
So
we've
got
a
good,
a
good
group
of
folks
that
we
selected
to
be
on
on
the.
A
M
I
I
C
M
M
I
M
A
A
M
J
L
I
would
like
I
would
like
to
chime
in
here,
because
I
am
a
little
concerned.
I
do
think
that
it
is
helpful
generally
when
we
can
before
caucus,
to
get
the
version
as
amended
as
it
will
then
be
amended
at
the
next
meeting,
so
that
we're
all
clear
on
this.
Richard
took
some
time,
and
I
appreciate
it
because
I
started
noticing
some
issues
and
he
took
some
time
to
actually
go
in
and
do
track
changes
on
a
document
that,
frankly,
other
eyes
should
be
picking
this
up.
L
G
G
M
G
D
M
A
L
You
know
people
reviewing
it
in
the
way
that
richard
does,
that
should
be
done
by
the
administration
before
it
comes
to
us,
because
then
we
have
potentially
16
people
here,
plus
staff
having
to
do
that
kind
of
review
and
having
to
go
back
and
forth
with
edits.
For
you
know,
technical
amendments
that
you
know
we
should
be
looking
at
the
substance
of
things,
so
it's
currently
a
little
less
of
an
issue,
especially
with
richard
here.
L
L
Are
you
know,
helping
us
with
language
for
what
we
need
to
amend
with
regard
to
once,
there's
a
substantive
discussion
that
that
should
be
the
bulk
of
our
work
or
when
we're
drafting
our
own
legislation,
but
when
it
comes
out
of
the
administration,
we
really
should
be
holding
them
to
a
higher
standard
than
we're
currently
getting
with
regard
to
legislation,
just
you
know
potentially
more
of
an
issue
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
C
A
D
C
I
A
C
I
A
What
I
was
actually
hoping
to
do
with
the
time
when
we
went
over
when
we
got
done
with
the
agenda,
was
to
kind
of
try
to
touch
on
the
covet
task
force,
and
what
I
was
I
wanted
to
do
was
ask
a
member
there's
only
one
here
which
is
miss
frederick.
They
kind
of
just
bring
us
up
to
speed
on
what's
been
going
on
with
that,
and
all
members
have
seen
the
link
there's
a
page
on
the
the
city's
website.
A
J
Yeah
so
right
now
in
general,
we're
sort
of
in
the
needs
assessment
phase,
the
various
kova
task
force.
Members
have
been
split
into
different
groups,
depending
on
their
specialty,
whether
it's
housing
travel,
health
care,
for
example,
and
they've
sort
of
come
had
little
internal
meetings
just
to
get
some
thoughts
flowing
about
where
things
are
and
what
they
think
needs
might
be.
And
now
the
survey
has
been
released.
J
That
is
public
really
assessing
just
a
needs
assessment
survey
based
on
you
know:
where
do
you
think
the
most
needs
are
in
the
city
of
albany
and
then
breaking
down
the
sectors
you
know
within
housing,
for
example?
What
do
you
think
the
biggest
need
is,
or
what's
your
priority
of
need
level
things
like
that,
so
that
is
open
it's
online.
Currently,
the
original
date
for
submission
was
this
friday,
based
on
feedback
and
also
timing
of
just
the
nature
of
the
timing
that
that
has
been
pushed
to
next
week.
J
So
there
is,
it
will
now
be
due
by
next
friday,
so
there's
more
time
for
it
to
be
dispersed
and
for
answers
to
be
received.
So
that's
out
there
I'd
say
you
know
as
much
as
we
can
push
to
our
constituencies.
That
would
be
great
try
to
get
people
to
fill
it
out.
The
more
responses,
the
better
would
give
us
a
good
good,
lay
of
the
land
and
sort
of
help
with
next
steps.
J
C
J
It's
a
lengthy,
lengthy
survey,
probably
you're,
going
to
need
about
15
to
20
minutes
to
really
think
through
and
fill
it
out.
But
you
know
if
there's
questions
that
are
challenging,
you
could
skip
those,
maybe
just
answer
the
ones
that
are.
You
know
more
pertinent
to
you,
but
the
more
responses,
the
better.
Obviously.
C
L
L
L
L
L
So
many
students
lost
their
sophomore
years
of
college,
their
their
senior
years
of
college,
and
some
people
thrived
with
that.
Some
people,
were,
you
know,
being
you
know,
finishing
up
their
senior
year
of
high
school
and
and
having
that
dialogue
that
cross
connection
happening
while
they
try
and
figure
out
these
life
decisions,
these
important
decisions.
L
I
talk
over
the
years
about
how
that
is,
is
lacking,
and
I
feel
like
that
kind
of
structure
can
be
so
important
to
help
our
children
feel
like
they
matter
to
provide
some
healthy
structure
in
their
lives
to
get
them
out,
exercising
socializing,
etc.
Anyway,
I
just
I
wanted
to
share
that.
You
know
with
all
all
of
the
members
who
are
on
this
task
force.
L
It's
a
lot
to
get
at,
but
in
any
in.
In
any
case,
this
is
I'm
I
gotta
say
I'm
kind
of
semi-panicked
about
about.
How
do
we
get
kids
back
on
track?
People
will
have
you
know,
they'll
go
a
little
interview
for
jobs
and
they
get
jobs,
so
they
don't.
They
go
back
to
their
offices
and
and
and
and
will
re
aim
a
certain
amount
of
that
structure.
L
J
No,
I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
you
judy
and
I
think
a
couple
things
so
on
the
survey.
I
think
there's
a
catch-all
bucket
sort
of
towards
the
bottom,
where,
like
comments
like
that,
are
critical
to
see
like
what
you
know
what
was
missed
in
this
first
survey
like
and
so
putting
things
like
that
is,
is
huge
and
then
also
I
know.
J
Kuwita
is
a
part
of
the
task
force
and
I
think
the
mayor
stayed
in
the
past
that
she
chose
her
to
be
on
because
of
the
understanding
the
money
that's
going
to
the
school
district.
You
know,
how
can
we
work
together
and
make
a
joint
effort
and
make
sure
that
we
we
solve
these
issues
for
our
kids,
because
losing
a
year
is
unimaginable
to
me
and
I'm
sure
many
kids
are
struggling.
L
A
Also
we're
going
to
talk
about
or
need
to
think
about,
the
chief
hawkins
in
the
prospect
of
him,
leaving
not
sure
of
a
timeline
everyone
saw
just
like
I
did
the
news
story.
That
said
he
was
in
the
running
for
the
akron
police
chief
job.
I'm
told
that
the
chief
has
retired
I
I
thought
we
at
least
had
till
the
end
of
the
year,
but
my
understanding
is
the
chief
out
there
is
retired
and
so
they'd
probably
be
trying
to.
You
know,
pull
the
trigger
sooner
rather
than
later.
A
I
did
speak
with
the
mayor's
folks
about
it
and
we
are
kind
of
waiting
to
see
basically
there's
some
some
things
we
can't
control
in
there
and
so
and
my
understanding
is
that
both
the
police
and
the
administration
is
preparing
to
you
know
to
function.
You
know
you
know
without
him.
Hopefully
you
know
hoping
to
get
the
chance
to
get
some
things
right
before
and
if
he
leaves
but
but
but
preparing
to
protect
the
city
so
miss
frederick.
J
G
G
E
A
Yeah
yeah
there
was
a
couple
of
questions
in
there.
I'm
not
sure
I
caught
them
all
but
they're
again.
I
would
imagine,
and
actually
just
not
imagine
from
the
conversation
the
search
would
be.
You
know
the
national
search.
If,
if,
if
an
albany
person
that
ended
up
being
the
person,
you
know
the
one
selected,
then
they
would,
you
know
be
selected,
but
I
think
the
search
process
would
be
the
same
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
got
from
from
from
talking
to
the
the
mayor
and
her
folks,
the
the.
A
Yeah,
I
was
a
part
of
that
that
group
that
reviewed
the
candidates
well
the
final
candidates,
but
but
yeah.
So
it
is
a
lengthy
process
and
you
mentioned,
or
you
talked
about
retirement
outpatient-
are
recruiting
that
problem.
More
than
likely
it
will,
it
probably
will
be
an
issue.
I
think
what
could
help
us,
though,
is
if
and
I
believe,
apd
voted
the
union
voted
on.
You
know
how
you
know
the
officers,
how
they,
whether
it
be
a
pva
or
council
82.
That
vote
was
in
the
last
couple
of
days.
A
But
again
most
of
the
comments
you
made
and
the
questions
yeah
it's
it's
it's
a
lot
of
unknowns.
Unfortunately,
it's
it's,
it's
really
a
terrible
place
to
be
in
with
all
of
us
all
the
you
know,
the
violence
and
and
the
stuff
going
on,
not
just
here
but
around
the
around
the
country.
So
we
again,
I
see
this
as
possibly
adding
another
stress
to
or
more
stress
to
to
the
to
the
folks
at
apd
moving
forward,
mr
johnson
and
then
mr
hoey,
you
got
your
real
hand
up.
O
Thank
you
thank
you
kelly,
and
I
hope
you
know
I
apologize
I
just
jumped
on,
but
I
I
just
would
like
to
have
a
responsible
conversation
when
it
comes
to
you
know
the
the
future
of
apd
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
know,
and
this
is
no
knock
against
chief
hawkins
but
like
when
we
go
and
do
a
national
search.
It
takes
a
whole
lot
of
time
number
one
and
number
two
like.
O
I
think
that
going
outside
of
apd,
we
kind
of
lost
the
edge
that
community
policing
was
providing
us
in
the
last
several
years.
Let's
just
say
that,
and
you
know
like
if,
for
those
that
know
know
that
the
the
brains
of
community
policing
has
left
apd,
you
know
the
brains
that
operated
and
when
we
were
functioning
on
a
higher
level
and
so
like.
I
think
that
that
conversation
needs
to
come
to
the
forefront,
because
you
know
that
factors
in
and
contributes
to.
O
O
Like
those
that
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
unhappy
officers,
you
know
and-
and
they
unhappy
for
you
know
several
different
reasons,
and
so
I
just
think
that
as
leaders
of
of
of
the
city
and
with
the
knowledge
that
we
have,
we
have
to
have
those
conversations
that
others
are
choosing
not
to
have
for.
You
know,
for
whatever
reason,
and
that's
something
that
I
would
like
us
to.
O
You
know,
take
a
strong
look
at
because
the
the
morale
of
the
morale
of
apd
has
been
low
and
it's
just
getting
lower
on
top
of
what's
going
on
nationally.
So
I
just
think
that
we
really
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at.
You
know
the
possible
consideration
of
some
of
the
people
that
left
the
department
in
in
the
recent
years
and
and
look
at
what's
truly
best
for
apd
moving
forward
and
what's
best
for
the
city.
K
Yeah-
and
I
want
to
echo
a
lot
what
councilman
johnson
said
you
know,
but
we
do
have
I've.
I've
dealt
with
just
recently
with
deputy
chief
hogan,
and
I
I
think
we
have
a
competent
group
of
people
within
the
force
that
at
least
they
could
take
over
interim
and
I'd
like
to
see
it
like.
He
said
within
the
the
organization
be
able
to
move
up,
I
mean
we
did
an
experiment.
We
brought
somebody
in
from
the
outside,
but
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
and
look
inside
the
other
thing.
K
I
am
concerned
mike
o'brien
brought
up
about
the
next
class.
I
I
watched
them.
They
were
doing
testing
at
ualbany
some
weeks
ago,
maybe
three
weeks
ago
and
there's
only
17
out
of
that
class,
but
they're
17.
I
I
was
very
impressed
at
the
physical
strength.
You
know
they
were
doing
the
run
and
push-ups
and
stuff
like
that.
So
I
watched
I
I
stopped
and
watched
you
know.
K
I
worked
there
and
about
a
half
hour
just
watching
these
recruits
and
I
think
we
got
a
good
class
coming
up
and
we
just
got
to
keep.
You
know
recruiting
people
and
having
more
classes,
I
don't
know
necessarily
larger
classes,
but
now,
with
cobit
kind
of
on
the
way
we
might
be
able
to
have
a
larger
class.
The
final
point-
and
I
don't
know
what
we
can
do
about
it,
but
we
really
need
to
get
them
recognized,
so
they
can
get
a
contract.
K
I
mean
work
in
all
these
years
without
any
raises
just
think
about
it.
It's
it's
heartbreaking
to
me,
because
every
year
I
get
my
little
two
percent
raise,
but
it
makes
a
difference.
It
means
that
my
organization
respects
me.
They
realize
that
costs
are
going
up,
especially
now
you
can't
buy
lumber
meat
or
anything
the
prices
are
going
up
gasoline.
K
A
Mr
ho,
anyone
else
on
that
that
issue-
okay,
also
I'd
like
to
mention-
I
had
spoken
before
about
meeting
ms
gillespie
to
kind
of
try
to
work
through
the
the
chamber
issue.
I
guess
that
may
be
somewhat
of
a
new
point
with
with
the
change
in
the
law,
but
we
did
go
through
and
and
inspect
the
equipment
and
run
through
the
program
and
see
that
we
could
get
it
running
both
in
the
chambers
and
we
could
have
members
participate
remotely.
A
A
So
I
think
we're
we're
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
that
and
we're
in
in
the
meantime,
in
between
time,
trying
to
look
at
a
temporary
option
to
take
some
of
the
workload
off
of
mr
lesby
and
mr
piccardo
or
to
help
them.
We
got
some
catching
up
to
do
with
some
some
meeting
stuff
and
minutes,
and
and
so
we're
exploring
that
option,
also
in
conjunction
with
hr
and
ms
gillespie's
really
overseeing
and
trying
to
work
through
that
for
us.
So
that
do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
that?
K
Yeah
I
mean
I
mean
miss
glaspy
and
jr
been
working
so
hard.
You
know,
without
this
third
person
is
there
anything
we
can
do
for
them
like
a
short
term
like
for
a
bonus
kind
of
because
they
had
to
work
so
much
extra
to
keep
things
going.
I
mean
it's
one
month.
I
could
see
two
months
yeah,
but
this
has
been
a
long
time
for,
for
both
of
them.
I've
seen
them
on
meetings
at
night
and
they're,
exhausted
and,
and
we
do
put
a
lot
of
demands
on
them.
K
A
A
D
A
We're
not,
I
said
it.
I
said
that
that
what
the
changes
yesterday
probably
kind
of
rendered
it
you
know
us
trying
to
work
through
that
stuff,
a
moot
point,
but
not
so
much,
not
meaning
we're
going
all
right
back
right
now,
we're
still
working
on
the
stuff,
but
we're
trying
to
work
through
and
in
sorry.
I
A
I
So
I'm
going
to
voorhees
bill
tomorrow
now,
so
I'm
just
giving
that
heads
up
that
we
don't
know
how
much
longer
we'll
have
this
virtual
platform
again.
The
the
open
meetings
law
does
allow
for
it.
But
the
difference
was
the
active
participation
portion
because,
as
it
currently
reads
in
the
open
meetings
law,
if
we
do
keep
it
remote,
then
anybody
any
place
location,
anybody's
meeting
the
public
has
a
right
to
be
there.
So
your
house,
my
house,
everybody,
would
have
to
be
allowed
in.
A
D
L
Think
that
you
do
need
certainly
notice,
because
some
of
us
have
gotten
used
to
doing
things
in
a
certain
way
and
and
knowing
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
be
in
albany
for
every
committee
meeting
in
every
council,
meeting
or
caucus
has
been,
you
know
has
given
us
added
flexibility,
and
if
that
flexibility
disappears,
then
either
people
are
not
going
to
be
attending
or
they're
going
to
be
scrambling
to
change
their
other
plans.
So
having
some,
I
my
goal
is:
have
notice,
you
know
a
month
or
two
is
a
good
goal.
D
D
A
Right
and
just
before
you,
mr
johnson,
and
that
is
that
is
the
issue,
because
the
way
the
the
the
or
you
know
the
the
word
came
out.
It's
on
you
know
everyone
mass
off
and
then
you
you're
relying
on
people
to
be
honest
about
where
they've
been
in
in
exposures,
and
so
it
says
for
unvaccinated
folks
to
to
mask
up
but
who's
going
to
do
that.
Most
of
the
folks
that
aren't
wearing
masks
already
and
haven't.
Don't
trust
the
vaccination
they're
not
going
to
tell
us.
O
With
all
due
respects
to
people's
concerns,
you
know
we
have
been
out
of
the
chambers
for
a
long
time
and
to
say
two
months
or
three
months
from
now
is
a
suitable
time.
I
think
that
you
know
the
this
is
not
the
normal
way
of
doing
business,
and
you
know,
although
it
has
been
convenient
in
some
regards,
it,
has
been
an
inconvenience
in
other
regards
you
know,
so
you
know
I
try
to
be
respectful
to
you
know
people's
positions,
because
everybody
feels
differently.
O
So
I
I
look
forward
to
getting
back
into
the
chambers.
I
have
worked
in
the
city
school
district,
the
whole
year
with
in-person
learning
and
you
know
have
been
fortunate
enough
not
to
get
sick
and-
and
I
just
you
know,
would
love
to
see
us
back
in
the
chambers.
You
know
doing
the
great
work
that
we
all
signed
up
to
do.
Thank
you.
M
One
thing
I'm
sorry:
I've
been
moving
around.
I
think
I
just
want
to
make
sure
members
aware.
I
think
the
last
time
we
met
the
legislature
hadn't
completed
action,
but
the
permit
parking
bill
has
passed
now.
Both
houses,
oh
wow,
so
that's
likely
to
be
signed
into
law.
I'd
be
surprised,
it
isn't,
but
regardless
we
can't
wait
for
the
governor
to
act
to
begin
to
take
action
because
there
is
a
there
is
a
process
we
have
to
go
through
to
implement
that
and
it
has.
M
We
have
to
have
things
in
place
by
what
we
have
to
have
done
by
the
end
before
the
year
is
out
and
in
terms
of
systems
and
I'm
looking
at
danielle
because
at
the
tail
end
the
last
part
of
this
is
actually
implementing
it
through.
You
know
the
the
renewal
process
and
new
applications
that
danielle
is
going
to
have
to
take
care
of.
M
M
I
feel
sorry
for
them
because
we're
dumping
so
much
on
them,
but
the
planning
department
has
to
be
involved.
Obviously,
traffic
safety
bill,
trudeau.
I
feel
sorry
for
him
again,
because
bill
is
really
an
integral
part
of
this
and
he
was
you
know
last
time
we're
going
to
need
the
parking
authority's
involvement,
obviously
the
city
clerk
law
department
to
some
extent.
M
So
in
addition
to
those
members-
and
we
have
to
figure
that
out
who
have
a
direct-
you
know
interest
in
this
process
because
they're
gonna
they
want,
you
know
streets
designated
or
the
the
boundaries
expanded
or
whatever.
I
know
it's
alfredo,
I
know
joyce,
you
know
I
know,
there's
some
issues
up
in
pine
hills.
There
are
some
even
with
existing
zones,
for
example,
the
temporal
triangle
area
is
one
where
we
probably
want
to
look
at
to
add
some
in
there.
M
So
I'm
just
saying
we're
gonna
have
to
clarify
this
whole
process,
but
it
is
going
to
be
a
lengthy
process
and
it
has
to
get
done
and
we
have
to
have
all
this
put
in
place
because
bringing
in
new
applicants
and
new
streets
is
not
easy.
There's
a
lot
of
work
that
has
to
be
done
especially
out
in
the
field,
so
just
to
give
a
heads
up
on
that.
M
I
will
reach
out
to
the
mayor
and
just
to
figure
out
how
you
know,
because
I
I
can't
I
can't
direct
all
the
all
heart
departments
right
and
that
has
understand
that
they
have
to
be
a
part
of
the
process,
and
we
can't
you
know
again.
We
can't
do
it
on
our
own
because
we're
not
going
to
go
out
there,
I'm
not
sending
jr
out
to
count
parking
spots
and
do
a
parking
inventory
classic
like
that.