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Description
The Committee reviewed the Budget Office presentation and Q and A on the proposed budget.
B
Welcome
everyone,
and
just
a
quick
note
for
anybody:
that's
watching
in
the
city
of
albany,
please
be
safe
and
call
with
any
downed
trees
that
you
see,
of
course,
you're
probably
watching
this
and
not
calling
red
down
trees.
But
thank
you
to
all
the
council
members
that
are
here
and
staff.
It
was
kind
of
crazy
out
there
for
a
while.
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B
C
C
C
Thank
you
so,
basically,
maybe
I'm
keeping
a
very
similar.
You
know
format
that
we've
done
before
I
just
kind
of
want
to
move
through
this
somewhat
quickly,
because
I
know
you
got
you
guys
have
a
lot
of
questions.
We'll
start
out
with
the
budget
summary.
We
have
decreased
the
overall
size
of
the
budget
about
600
000
from
last
year.
C
We
have
we
have.
We
have
also
been
that
decrease
absorbed.
Contractual
union
increases
health
insurance
costs,
retirement,
increased
retirement
costs
in
there
as
well,
but
kind
of
what
I
really
wanted
to
focus
on
early
was
just
to
see
back
in
in
2015
we
actually
had
a
negative
fund
balance
of
1.7
million.
C
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
our
success
and
building
up
that
fund
balance.
Unfortunately,
as
you
all
know,
we
are
facing
a
very
dire
situation.
Economically
covet
has
had
a
disastrous
impact
on
our
revenue
and
a
significant
piece
without
stimulus
or
a
quick
turnaround
in
the
economy.
A
significant
piece
of
this
fund
balance
will
most
likely
be
used
to
get
us
through
2020
and
2021.
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G
G
C
That
one
right
there,
it
just
gives
you
a
general
idea
of
where
our
budget
has
been
in
total
size.
Over
the
last
several
years
we
have,
we
have
been
able
to
keep
it
to
keep
it
steady
to
keep
it
consistent
and
we've
continued
to
do
that
again
this
year
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
and
this
just
gives
you
kind
of
a
graph
of
where
we
work
with
our
fund
balance
as
to
where
we
are
now
you
know,
we've
we
have
been
able
to
hold
the
line
in
the
size
of
our
budget.
C
C
These
are
generally
referred
to
as
rainy
day
funds,
and
it's
not
just
raining
out
there
from
an
economic
standpoint,
it's
a
it's
a
damn
hurricane,
and
this
is
exactly
the
reason
why
you
work
so
diligently
to
build
up
these
reserves,
so
you
can
withstand
something
as
as
tremendous
as
what
we're
going
through
right.
Now
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
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C
Departmental
income
is
up
significantly,
debt
reserve
is
significantly
down
and
all
other
is
up
just
a
bit.
The
next
slide
we'll
we'll
get
into
some
some
more
of
the
details
of
what
this
looks
like.
I
just
wanted
to
see
to
show
you
the
difference
from
last
year
and
and
from
a
percentage
basis
really
what
first,
what
piece
of
these
he's
up
the
most
high
or
to
the
right
on
the
graph
you'll
see?
You
know
our
property
tax
is
32.
C
And
this
is
really
what
the
the
levy
increase
looks
like
we,
we
were
able
to
because
of
a
growth
in
the
overall
tax
roll
and
the
new,
the
new.
The
new
rates
were
able
to
choose
from
from
the
state
controller.
As
far
as
homestead
non-homestead
rates,
we
did
fall
into
into
an
area
where
we
were
able
to
increase
the
levy
by
a
million
dollars,
which
is
which
is
1.7
percent
increase
and
well
within
the
the
tax
cap.
C
With
our
available
carry
over
from
last
year,
we
actually
could
have
taken
up
to
about
1.8
million.
In
total
levy
increase.
We
decided
on
a
million,
it's
gonna.
It's
going
to
result
in
about
a
29
per
150
household
increase
in
their
yearly
taxes,
so
you
know
any
any
property,
valued
at
100
000
you're,
looking
at
about
29
increase
on
your
total
yearly
tax
for
commercial
non-homestead
property,
it's
a
very,
very
slight.
I
mean
really
minimal
decrease,
but
so
essentially
a
flat,
no
no
increase
in
your
rate
there.
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C
And
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
to
do
and
when
we
have
the
opportunity
is
really
to
increase,
increase
that
that
levy
without
having
a
major
impact
on
the
overall
tax
rates.
So
generally,
when
we,
when
we,
when
we
do
this,
we
have
seen
some
growth
in
in
the
le
in
the
overall
tax
roll
and
some
some
differences
in
the
way
that
we
get
the
the
proportioned
out.
And
we
have
that
opportunity
again
this
year.
C
And
this
this
slide,
I
think
many
of
you
have
seen
before.
I
believe
we
usually
provide
it
to
you
more
in
the
excel
form.
This
is
really
the
formula
that
that
goes
into
what
levy
increase
will
result
in
to
what
percentage
of
your
of
your
rates
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
wonky
and
and
technical.
So,
but
I
didn't
want
to
show
you
to
see,
so
you
all
knew
that
there
was.
You
know
math
behind
all
this.
C
So
really
what
you
can
see
is
is
there
was
a
about
24
million
dollar
overall
growth
in
the
tax
roll,
but
you
know
which
helped
contribute
to
to
be
levy
and
keep
rates
down,
but
also
we
were
able
to
to
move
the
adjusted
base
back
to
where
you
know
to
where
we
would
we
could.
We
could
give
more
of
a
you
know
more
of
a
break
on
the
homestead
instead
of
instead
of
instead
of
you
know,
hitting
homestead
higher
than
non-homestead.
C
That
was
the
rate
that
brought
it
closes
together
to
have
the
most
minimal
impact
on
on
both
sides.
Obviously
I
will
share
those
adjusted
rate
percentages
with
you.
There's
13
that
the
state
controller
sends
us
that
are
available
based
on
our
overall
overall
role
and
and
our
actual
breakout
of
homestead
and
non-homestead.
So
that
is
a
document
that
I
will
afford
on
on
to
you
all
we
can
go
to
the
to
the
next
slide.
C
And
this
is
what
I
was
talking
about
as
far
as
on
that
on
two
previous
slides,
you
saw
where
we
were
having
steady
increase
on
the
actual
levy,
but
when
you
see
this,
this
slide,
you
see
where
we
have
been
successful
as
in
increasing
the
levy
while
flattening
the
rate.
So
we
have
not
passed
those
levy
increases
on
to
our
taxpayers
as
a
tax
rate.
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C
F
C
G
C
C
We
are
anticipating
a
five
percent
reduction
in
sales
tax
for
q1,
with
being
optimistic
that
a
vaccine
continued
infection,
our
economy
will
continue
to
grow
and
our
sales
tax
will
level
up
to
normal
in
q2
of
21
and
we'll
have
some
spectacular
numbers
towards
q3
and
q4.
If
all
goes
well,
one
of
the
and
and
some
of
the
a
couple
of
increases
that
you'll
see
in
our
departmental
income
were
really
our
trash.
C
We
went
from
2.4
to
2.7
million
and
I
did
increase
our
demolition
number
again
because
we're
just
not
seeing
that
overall
decrease
year
over
year
that
we
that
we
thought
we
would
see
with
demolition.
So
we
are
bringing
that
number
up
again.
The
trash
fee
tends
to
have
some
fluctuation
in
2018.
I'm
sorry
2019.
It
was
about
2.8
million
last
year
about
two
point,
or
this
year,
2020
22.4
in
2021.
C
It's
we're
looking
at
about
2.7.
That
number
is
directly
derived
from
the
number
of
eligible
units
times
the
actual
fee
that
applies
to
those
to
those
units.
So
that's
that's
where
that
number
comes
from
we're
working
with
treasury
to
look
into
into.
What's
creating
some
of
this
fluctuation,
we
know
we've
done
some
massive
cleanup
as
far
as
and
reassessing
and
and
and
appropriately
allocating
which,
which
you
know
what
units.
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
did
not
take
that
big
of
a
of
an
increase
for
21,
because
I
believe
this
number
is
basically
is
because
it
is
based
on
on
on
the
market
and
and
and
prescription
drugs
and
all
the
timing
of
generics
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
that.
I
left
that
750
I
put
that
at
750
just
because
I
think
that
will
fluctuate
year
to
year,
but
this
program
is
designed
to
bring
in
maximum
savings,
so
I
do
expect
us
to
have
that
significant
of
an
average
increase
each
year.
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C
On
to
our
expenditures,
we
have
seen
increases
in
our
salaries
and
our
retirement.
Obviously
the
fico
will
increase
with
the
salary
increase.
We
do
have
a
market
increase
in
our
health
insurance,
our
retirement
health,
we
remaining
flat.
We
duplicate
we're
going
to
come
in
with
a
little
bit
under
budget
for
20.,
so
that
remains
flat.
C
C
This
account
will
will
pay
for
things
like
police
vehicles,
playground,
equipment,
spray,
pads
things
of
that
nature
that
we've
all
been
looking
for,
an
opportunity
to
to
move
from
borrowing
to
just
paying
through
operating
fund
or
through
some
sort
of
capital
reserve
account.
We
felt
the
capital
reserve
account
made
a
lot
more
sense,
as
those
funds
would
be
able
to
roll
over
year
over
year,
as
opposed
to
being
wiped
out
at
the
end
of
the
year
in
their
operating
fund.
C
C
G
C
Look
at
our
increase
in
our
salaries.
Much
of
that
is
due
to
contractual
obligations
with
our
unions.
Fire
is
on
a
current
contract
through
2022.
That
is
a
two
percent
increase
each
year.
I
don't
know
what
what
we're
anticipating
and
what
happened.
I'll
explain
this
in
a
second
is
for
our
police
supervisors
union.
C
C
Certainly
we
were
hopeful
that
we
would
see
some
sort
of
stimulus
or
that
we
would
that
kobe
would
would
takes
take
a
better
return
than
it
has,
and
it
hasn't
so,
but
as
at
this
point
that
a
payment
that
we
will
have
to
make
to
the
police
supervisors,
that's
also
a
deal
that
catches
them
up
from
2015
through
2022,
and
I
can
certainly
details
on
that.
If
you
don't
have
that
already
and
what
that
deal
looks
like,
but
that
was
that
was
that's
a
big.
That's
a
big,
a
big
change
here.
C
We
also
had
study
with
our
in
our
911
dispatch
center.
An
independent
study
consultant
came
in
and
gave
recommendations
on
how
we
could
improve
conditions
over
there.
A
lot
of
folks
were
getting
because
of
being
down,
so
many
were
getting
really
burned
out
and
we
were
seeing
a
lot
of
ot
generated
from
that.
So
we
have
added
three
additional
telecommunications
specialists
to
the
budget
and
we
also
have
settled
a
deal.
We
were
just
waiting
on
ratification.
This
was
also
a
deal
that
was
done
during
coven
that
was
basically
suspended.
C
They
are
looking
to
ratify
for
operating
engineers,
and
we've
also
done
the
living
wage
increase
of
15.52
per
hour
for
all
of
our
permanent
non-union,
full-time
and
part-time
employees,
and
there's
an
increase
there,
also
not
on
here,
but
also
waiting
the
deals
that
were
done.
Where
we
did.
We
did
a
deal
with
crossing
with
crossing
guards
team
stirs
as
well.
Those
are
minimal
impacts,
but
I
can
provide
you
with
all
those
detail
because
we
everything
was
suspended
with
covid.
C
We
do
have
close
to
a
million
dollar
increase
in
retirement.
That's
based
on
the
state
controllers,
21,
22
projections.
I
know
I've
provided
those
those
documents
to
you
previously
and
then
we'll
do
so
again.
That
is
what
I
think.
A
lot
of
that
increase
is
due
to
the
uncertainty
of
our
economic
future.
So
we
are
seeing
another
million
increase
in
retirement.
Unfortunately,
and
I
did
discuss
the
decrease
in
debt
service
from
you-
know,
decrease
in
overall
landfill
debt
and
then
our
conversion
from
the
ban
bonds.
We
go
to
the
next
slide.
C
We
do
have
a
500
000
increase
in
health
insurance.
This
is
primarily
due
to
a
three
percent
overall
market
adjustment
for
ourself,
our
our
blue
cross
self-funded
program
that
the
actual
actuaries
came
back
with
a
flat
rate
for
that,
so
that
we
did
not
increase
for
our
cd
php
plan,
which
is
a
more
traditional
pay
for
plan.
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G
C
With
the
capital
reserve
account,
we
created
that
with
some
of
the
decrease
in
over
on
our
overall
debt
service
number
to
capture
expenses
like
police
vehicles,
wrecked
playground
and
spray
pad
equipment.
I
know
it
was
a
we
were.
You
know
it
was
a
big
push
by
the
council
for
the
last
several
years
and
something
we've
been
looking
to
do
for
a
while.
Now
is
to
move
some
of
those
some
of
those
expenses
from
borrowing
into
actual
into
operating
funds.
C
I
C
It
on
the
chart
of
accounts,
it
is
rolling
up
to
state
aid.
So
that's
why
you
see
the
decrease
in
that
category,
it's
just
where
it
is
in
in
the
chart
of
accounts,
ken
bennett,
our
deputy
treasurer,
goes
by
how
the
controller
line
I'm
not
sure
how
much
flexibility
we
have
to
move
it.
But
I
can
certainly
inquire
about
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
because
it
could
be
confusing
because
we're
all
expecting
a
reduction
in
state
aid,
and
that's
not
what
this
is.
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C
I
I
The
retirement
expenditure
is
usually
based
upon
something
having
to
do
with
the
income
that
the
retirement
fund
is
making
and
therefore,
when
the
stock
market
is
doing
well
and
our
investments
in
that
are
doing
well,
then,
usually
the
municipalities,
the
contributing
entities
can
expect
to
see
a
decrease,
and
I
know
that
there's
a
five-year
rolling
average
I'm
not
sure
when
the
stock
market
has
gone
down
in
those
five
in
the
last
five
years.
That
would
result
in
an
overall
increase
in
our
retirement.
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C
C
We
have
a
similar
thing
here,
but
that
came
out
to
about
a
280
000
above
above
adjustment
for
that
based
on
the
estimate,
so
that
900
916
number
is
is
right
where
we
should
be
had
they
estimated
that
number
correctly,
because
I
thought
they
were
about
1.2
million
over
in
what
our
salary
amount
was
going
to
be.
But
I
will
scan
those
projections
over
to
you,
so
you
can
look
at
them.
I
Yeah,
I
I
appreciate
that,
if
you
could,
if
you
could
send
them
to
my
show,
so
she
can
send
it
to
everybody
that
would
be
appreciated.
It
still
is
kind
of
puzzling
because
our
salaries
are
projected
to
go
up
by
1.6
million
dollars
total
next
year.
So
this
looks
like
more
than
50
percent
of
that
increase
unless
the
rates
are
going
unless
the
rates
are
going
up,
which
really
does
not
make
sense.
I
So
I'm
wondering
you
know
if,
if
in
light
of
what
all
municipalities
and
contributing
entities
are
doing,
if
there
can
be
maybe
a
little
bit
of
concerted
pushback
on
what
they're
coming
up
with
rates-
and
I
know
that
they
need
to
make
sure
that
that
is
a
secure
and
I
know
there's
a
certain
amount
of
uncertainty.
But
it's
supposed
to
be
a
formula
now
that
this
rolling
five-year
formula
that
is
supposed
to
help
protect
against
real
surprises.
I
think,
in
that.
C
And
we've
we've
been
having
those
discussions
internally
and
are
concerned
and
confused
why
this
has
gone
up
so
much
ourselves.
So,
yes,
we'd
be
very
much
interested
in
pushing
back
and
finding
out
what's
really
driving
these
these
numbers.
Unfortunately,
they
didn't
even
release
this
to
us
on
the
website
until
a
few
days
before
the
budget
was
due.
So
there
really
wasn't
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
to
attack
on
that.
C
I
Thank
you,
debt
service.
I
just
I
get.
I
always
get
a
little
bit
confused
about
what
we're
doing
where
we
are
in
the
process
debt
service.
Sometimes
we
can,
I
want
to
say,
artificially
decrease
what
overall,
it
might
look
like
by
continuing
to
just
make
band
payments
in
and
when
we
don't
convert
to
bonds.
I
It's
a
little
bit
harder
to
project
one
year
to
another.
What
the
debt
service
payments
are.
We've
converted
some
to
bonds,
some
of
the
bans
to
bonds
and
that's
good
up
to
what
year
have
we
converted
the
bans
to
bonds
for
for
what?
What
we
authorized
like
for?
Is
it
now
just
2019
and
2020
that
we
haven't
converted.
J
No
it's!
This
is
darius,
I
believe
the
ban
issuance
for
2020
and
looking
through
right
here
was.
It
was
still
some
2015,
I
think,
with
the
the
amount
we
have
scheduled
to
be
borrowed
for
next
year
to
include
everything
in
the
capital
budget
for
2021,
plus
the
outstanding
ban
in
the
neighborhood
of
about
60
million
dollars.
J
I
J
Right
now
the
the
2020
ban
included
borrowing
from
2015..
That's
that's
the
latest
one.
The
vast
majority
of
the
ban
was
for
the
last
two
years
and
there
was
legislation
passed
in
the
in
the
state
that
actually
delayed
or
extended
the
period
of
time
that
you
couldn't
ban
it
used
to
be
five
years.
Now
you
can
ban
for
seven
years.
Oh.
J
Yeah,
so
that
has
an
effect
on
on
what
we'll
have
to
pay
down
in
2021
compared
to
what
we
have
budgets
budget
about
4.2
and
that's
what
it
was
supposed
to
be.
We
now
can
reduce
that
to
3
million,
and
then
we
can
decide,
depending
on
market
conditions,
things
don't
get
crazier
than
they
already
are.
Now
we
can.
We
can
bond
at
that
point
in
time
and
only
pay
down
three
million,
as
opposed
to
4.2
million.
I
I
I
must
say
you
know,
to
see
I
think
in
2022,
in
the
2022
budget,
to
see
a
significant
increase,
then,
as
a
result
of
what
has
been
authorized
for
borrowing
and
will
be
bonded
eventually-
and
you
know,
we
should
have
some
further
discussion
about
that
before
we
get
into
the
actual
bonding
authorizations
to
understand.
You
know
what
kind
of
impact
that
has
on
our
debt
payment
limits.
J
B
I
So
so,
just
my
my
point
is
this
reduction
in
paying
off
that
landfill
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
grace
and
breathing
room
this
particular
year,
and
I
just
want
to
question
people
that
we
will
not
have
that
next
year,
so
it
has
a
rolling
effect.
So
the
final
thing
is,
I
just
wanted
to
comment.
I
don't
know
if
everybody
else
heard
everything
that
mike
said
with
regard
to
the
police
supervisors,
I
didn't
hear
the
total
payment.
That
was
due
what
you
were
cutting
out
at
that
point
also.
C
The
total
payment
due
is
going
to
be
roughly
1.6
million.
The
contract
does
call
for
a
retro
payment
from
january
1st
2017
and
then
the
budget
adjustment
for
2020..
I,
on
a
set
on
that
second
attachment
that
I
sent
the
one
we
talked
about
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
I
do
have
that
number
factored
into
that
salary
savings
line
that
forecasts,
so
it
is
in
that
forecast.
C
I
B
C
D
You
know
make
up
unpaid
taxes
for
20
20,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
is:
when
a
lot
of
businesses
go
out
and
start
appealing
their
real
property
taxes,
they
might
have
good
claims
that
they're
not
worth
as
much
significantly
in
fact
significantly
affecting
our
real
property
tax
revenues,
and
probably
some
residential
people
might
be
in
that
boat
too.
But
I
think
in
particular
businesses,
but
for
working
climate
and
remote
working.
D
D
D
J
J
I
think
that
the
county
we
expect
the
county
to
be
able
to
meet
its
obligations
to
us
as
far
as
and
all
the
other
municipalities
in
the
county
to
to
make
us
whole
for
unpaid
property
taxes.
The
good
news
for
us
right
now
is
that
we're
still
largely
ahead
in
numbers
of
properties
that
are
paying
their
property
taxes
there's
a
few.
J
I
think
that
that
is
certainly
a
concern
that
everybody
has
going
forward
starting
next
year
that
the
office
buildings
will
start
to
to
challenge
their
levees.
I
think,
on
the
residential
side,
we're
actually
going
to
see
the
opposite
effect,
because
prices
seem
to
be
either
stable
or
going
up
on
the
residential
market
right
now,
which
is
which
is
good
on
a
bunch
of
different
levels.
The
other
thing
that
I
think
is
very
that
that
has.
J
A
factor
to
be
taken
into
consideration
is
that
downtown
a
lot
of
the
office
space
is
coming
offline
and
being
converted
to
residential
space.
That
has
been
happening
over
the
last
several
years
and
it's
late
and
more
of
that
slated
to
happen.
So
that
should
give
a
little
bit
of
a
cushion
as
well
to
to
reduce
property
taxes
on
those
buildings.
But
I
would
certainly
say
that
for
some
of
the
other
larger
buildings
that
that
challenges
will
come
and
if
there
will
be
a
reduction
in
those
taxes.
D
D
B
A
Yeah,
I
can't
find
my
virtual
hand
for
some
reason,
just
on
the
the
conversion
issue.
I
believe
most
of
those,
if
not
all,
are
actually
I
forget
the
the
right
kept,
the
section
485a
or
485
b
conversions,
which
would
not
go
through
the
ida,
because
they're
they're
still
maintaining
a
commercial
residential
activity,
but
mike
this
question
on
your
projections,
because
some
of
them,
like
you
know
the
sales
tax,
might
be
a
little
bit
rosy.
A
You
know
I
we
don't
know
where
we're
going
to
be
next
year
as
we
move
into
the
new
year,
and
you
know
to
the
extent
there
might
be
a
recovery
or
not
a
recovery.
Is
it
possible
next
year,
as
we
move
into
the
2021,
to
get
maybe
monthly
reports
or
updates
on
where
we
are
with
revenues
and
expenditures
on
a
monthly
basis?
C
E
The
plan,
if
we
don't
get
federal
funding,
I
know
the
man
mentioned
it
in
hair
presentation,
but
I
was
hoping.
Maybe
you
can
go
a
little
more
detail
about
what
is
our
our
backup?
If
we
don't
get,
you
know
the
federal
and
state
funding
that
we
deserve.
You
know
just
so
that
we
can
have
that
on
the
racket.
C
That's
that's
a
good
question
because,
on
its
face
this
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
very
rosy
budget,
but
the
reality
is,
we
know
if
you
know,
if
without
federal
stimulus
or
an
earlier
vaccine,
this
the
place
we're
in
right
now
could
continue
for
another
year.
We're
basically
going
to
be.
The
approach
is
going
to
be
very,
very
similar
to
what
we
did
in
2020..
C
What
we'll
need
for
2020,
which
is
about
4.5
million
of
that
fund
balance,
plus
what
we
have
in
remaining
debt
reserve
next
year,
will
carry
over
about
9.9
million
in
fund
balance
and
really
nothing
for
debt
reserve.
But
in
combination
with
maintaining
the
the
hiring
freeze,
keeping
the
spending
controls
down
are
keeping
the
spending
controls
up
and
those
expenses
down.
Looking
at
reductions
in
in
some
non-essential
services
and
programs
like
we
did
in
2020
where
and
then
we
and
then
we
get
some
outside
some
additional
funding
for
some
of
the
rec
programs.
C
A
C
C
It's
a
scary
option
as
well,
so
you
know
we
will
be
looking
at
some
other
potential
reductions
in
service
and
honest
non-essential
services
that
can
maybe
offset
the
use
of
that
those
reserved
a
little
bit
in
a
worst-case
scenario
and
that
calculator
that
we
built
helps
us
do
that
by
being
able
to
place
these
these
various
reductions
and
then
we
evaluate
the
impacts
on
our
residents
on
the
workforce.
This
is
something
we've
been
working
on
on
almost
a
daily
basis
since
covet
hit.
So
we
we
have
a.
C
We
have
a
significant
array
of
backup
of
backup
plans
to
this.
The
ones
that
we've
presented
so
far
are
just
kind
of
the
big
picture
ones
that
people
can
really
conceptualize
and
get
behind.
I
know
we
have
a
furlough
in
there,
a
white
collar
furlough
of
10
that
yields
about
1.6
million,
which
is
a
possibility
as
well
then,
after
that
we
get
into
some
of
those
other
reductions,
but
the
the
main,
the
main
focus
is
to
repeat
in
21
what
we
did
in
20
and
and
the
big
reason
we're
able
to
do.
E
I
think-
and
I
I
I
would
say
I
don't
think
you'd
be
afraid
to
use
heavy,
serves
in
difficult
times.
That's
why
I
think
it's
so
important
that
we
built
it.
I've
mentioned
that
throughout
the
years.
I
think
we
should
be
doing
all
we
can.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
in
building
our
reserves,
because
in
difficult
times
you
want
to
have
that
to
take
ease
some
of
the
pain
and
you
don't
want
to
put
all
the
pain
back
on
our
residents
who
are
themselves
going
through
pain.
E
So
I
don't
think
we
should
be
afraid
of
of
doing
that,
and
I
think
you
know
there's
a
saying
in
spanish
that
doesn't
translate.
Well,
you
know
when
the
cow
is
fat.
Freeze,
the
milk,
because
when
the
cow
is
skinny,
you
want
to
be
able
to
use
that
frozen
milk.
So
the
kyle
is
skinny
right
now
and
I'm
glad
we
have
some
some
frozen
milk
to
to
tap
into.
E
B
L
G
C
L
Okay
and
then
the
second
question
about
going
back
to
sales
tax,
I
mean
we're
in
this
new
economy
and
I
know
myself
and
others.
We
did
a
lot
of
online
ordering
and
you
know
everybody
charges
a
sales
tax.
Now
is
there
a
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
when
these
companies
collect
that
sales
tax,
it's
feeding
back
to
the
county
and
municipalities,
the.
C
The
state
is,
is
supposed
to
be
capturing
the
those
revenues
and
then-
and
yes
passing
those
on
to
us
the
formula
or
the
way
they
do.
That
right
now
is
a
bit
of
a
is
a
bit
of
a
mystery,
but
we
have
reached
out
to
the
state
rather
aggressively
to
get
that
that
data.
So
we
know
what
to
expect,
because
I
agree.
M
Yes,
first,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
much
director
and
your
staff
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
do.
I
know
we
in
some
challenging
times
during
the
mayor's
budget
presentation.
She
said.
If
it
wasn't
for
the
coronavirus,
we
would
have
had
a
surplus
which
is
music
to
the
ears.
It
seemed
like
something
is
we're
moving
in
a
positive
direction.
M
You
know
my
first
question:
I
wrote
a
list
of
questions
and
some
of
his
geared
towards
the
budget
of
the
treasures
office,
some
to
the
police
department.
My
first
question
is
regards
to
the
right.
Like
cameras.
We
keep
budgeting
for
the
red
light
camera
violations,
but
we
haven't
received
a
single
penny
from
it.
Last
year
it
was
budgeted
for,
I
think,
37
000
in
the
line
item.
Can
you
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
red
light
cameras
and
why
we
keep
budgeting
for
that.
C
C
It
does,
it
does
not
look
like
they
have
been
sharing
that
with
us,
darius
and
and
the
legal
department
are
looking
into
that
to
see
exactly
what's
what's
supposed
to
be
happening
there
and
maybe
why
it's
not
happening.
So
that
is
something
that
we
had
expected
to
see
and
are
now
investigating
as
to
why
we
haven't
seen
that
yet
because.
C
J
We
actually
have
some
with
the
collections
as
well,
which
we
started
last
year
on
the
red
light
camera,
so
it
was
in
the
thousands
it
might
be
between
10
and
20
at
this
point
for
last
year
or
for
on
the
collection
side
of
things,
I
should
say,
as
for
the
the
actual
tickets
themselves,
we're
working
out
the
administrative
process
to
to
we,
we
have
the
money
which
it's
an
allocation
of
it.
Budgetarily.
J
M
M
J
Yeah,
it's
real
money
in
our
account.
I
guess
the
way
you
might
think
of
it
is
you
know
you
have
you
know
five
thousand
dollars
in
your
bank
account
and
you
have
you
know
you
spent
two
thousand
on
your
bills
or
three
thousand
your
bills
and
you
have
another
thousand
coming
up,
and
you
know
you
have
extra
money
in
there
you're,
just
not
exactly
sure
how
much,
because
you
have
bills
being
paid
out
and
more
bills
coming
due.
J
So
I'm
getting
up
to
14.4
at
the
end
of
last
year,
a
million
in
in
fund
balance
with
a
strong
step
in
the
right
direction.
It
gets
back
to
the
10,
which
would
be
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
17
and
a
half
or
18
million
dollars,
which
is
what
we
want
to
have
on
hand,
but
that
it's
essentially
it's
money.
That's
unallocated!
You
have
on
hand
to
to
do
with
what
you
any
do
with
what
you
need
to
or
want
to
whatever
that
might
be.
M
C
Yeah
we're
really
looking
looking
into
if
there
were
to
be
furloughs
and
then
stimulus
stimulus
were
to
come.
Certainly
we
would
you
know
those
those
people.
We
would
look
to
make
those
people
whole
based
on
what
was
lost
throughout
that
process.
So
we
are
looking
at
various
ways
in
that
furlough
that
if
you
know,
if,
if
things
do
change
and
if
it
turns
out
that
that
sacrifice
is
not
necessary,
they
would
be
made
hole
back
to
that
gotcha.
M
C
We're
we're
waiting
on
certainly
waiting
on
those
those
q3
reports
to
really
give
us
a
good
gauge
of
where
we're
at
right.
Now.
Originally,
we
had
projected
that
we
would
be
down
20
percent
in
each
of
the
last
three
quarters,
but
it
looks
so
far
from
and
we
were
down
about
that
20
for
for
quarter
two.
We
were
up
from
last
year
in
q1.
C
What
we're
hearing
for
for
july
and
august
was
about
being
down
about
nine
percent
in
july
and
eight
percent
in
august.
So
we
are.
We
do
believe
that
that's
gonna
be
that
is
gonna
feed.
What
we
thought
was
gonna
be
20
loss
in
those
months,
so
it's
moving
in
a
generally
more
favorable
direction
than
we
thought,
but
we
won't
know
that
exact
number
for
probably
darius
can
can
probably
clarify
at
least
another
week
or
two
I'm
assuming
before
we
see
what
that
actual
q3
report
came
out.
J
C
J
Yeah,
I
would
say
that
that
sales
tax
had
been
trending
back
in
the
right
direction
over
the
past
couple
of
months,
for
the
figures
that
I
had
seen,
but
that
still
put
us
at
about
eight
to
ten
percent-ish
reduction
from
from
the
year
before
months
a
month.
I
think,
overall,
for
the
year,
I
I
think
we're
probably
expecting
some
in
the
neighborhood
of
ten
to
fifteen
percent
decrease
from
what
we
we
thought
we
were
going
to
have.
M
M
J
I
you
know
I
I
my
own
personal
feeling
is
that
this
is
really
washington's
place
to
fix
or
to
to
amend.
You
know
the
the
state
has
been
hit
dramatically.
I
think
we're
feeling
at
the
state
level
what
we're
really
seeing
at
the
state
level
is
for
all
those
folks
around
us
in
upstate
new
york,
who
think
that
new
york
city
is
the
the
problem
in
our
budget.
The
the
devastation
to
the
new
york
city
economy
is
actually
the
prime
mover
behind
the
reduction
in
state
revenues
right
now.
So
it's
not.
G
J
Of
a
lot,
the
state
can
really
can
really
do
at
this
point.
It
really
has
to
come
from
the
federal
level,
and
you
know
I
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
listening
in
washington
right
now,
but
anything
you
do
to
get
people
into
office
down
there
who
will
listen
to
us
come
november
4th.
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
possible
thing
you
could
do
outside
of
direct
advocacy.
J
You
know
to
to
mitch
mcconnell
it's
really.
It's
held
that
there's
still
real
talk
of
the
last
couple
of
days
about
you
know,
pelosi
and
mnuchin
meeting,
there's
still
a
bill
on
mcconnell's
desk.
That
is
a
bipartisan
bill
that
was
passed
by
the
by
the
congress
and
including
our
upstate
congresswoman.
Here,
elise
stefanik.
J
It
was
passed
with
bipartisan
majority,
a
strong
bipartisan
majority
and
he
won't
let
it
get
to
the
of
the
vote
in
the
senate.
So
that's
where
that's
where
the
problem
is.
That's
where
a
lot
of
these
issues
could
be
solved,
and
I
you
know
I
I
think
that
they're
cynically
trying
to
use
it
to
strangle
local
governments
and
when
you
do
that
it
it.
You
know
no
matter
how
you
cut
it,
slice
and
dice
it.
J
B
H
H
H
B
F
F
And
I
see
1.8
million
dollars
in
pain.
I
don't
know
how
much
they
can
share
they're
down
58
officers
58
now
I
don't
know
how
we
get
out
of
this
class
out
of
13,
maybe
half
of
them.
So
we're
still
going
to
be
down
that
many.
So
I
don't
know
how
you
are
budging
for
that.
I
know
that
two
of
the
police
unions-
well,
I
don't
know
if
they're
two
of
them
yet,
but
they
might
have
come
to
some
agreement.
Then
you
have
to
negotiate
the
pay
there.
F
It's
it's
just
no,
and
then
today
you
mentioned
about
trying
to
put
on
three
more
or
dispatchers
or
telecommunication
officers.
They
are
dispatchers
correct,
because
you're
down
eight
now
and
you're,
trying
to
put
on
three
more
and
some
others
leaving.
How
are
you?
How
are
you
actually
budgeting
with
that
you're,
just
saving
that
for
a
rainy
day
too?
F
C
Well,
I
will
say,
as
far
as
class
sizes
and
and
the
department
we
budget
to
a
full
complement,
so
those
class
sizes
will
be
determined
on
on
really
what
they
can
handle
and
how
many,
how
many
applicants
they
get
and
all
of
that
process
for
the
communications
piece.
The
additional
staff
is
really
a
first
step
towards
making
some
significant
improvements
in
dispatch,
we're
looking
at
potentially
moving
them
up
to
the
new
offices,
where
the
where
the
academy
is
to
provide
a
better
working
space.
C
So
it's
part
of
an
overall
comprehensive
plans
to
really
create
some
more
stability
within
within
the
dispatch
group.
So
yeah
I
mean
there
is
we
are,
and
we
do
not.
We
do
have
the
deal
with
the
supervisors
right
now.
The
patrol
group
is
still
having
its
own
internal
battles
and
we
are
able
to
negotiate
with
them
at
the
moment.
You
know,
obviously
with
covet
and
everything
going
on.
The
reason
why
some
of
these
previous
contracts
were
settled
was
because
we
had
gotten
them
out
there
and
agreed
upon
before.
C
F
G
Thank
you
quick
couple
questions,
so
obviously,
this
year
was
a
challenging
time
for
all
things.
Financial.
Do
you
have
any
indication
about
how
other
comparative
cities
within
the
state
are
dipping
into
their
fund
balance,
and
also
do
you
have
any
indication
about
if
the
4.5
million
dip
is
going
to
lead
to
us
becoming
distressed
again.
C
I
don't
know
what
other
mr
powell
values
are
doing
about
using
the
use
of
their
reserves,
because
it
does
seem
like
syracuse,
rochester
buffalo,
even
saratoga
today
announced
that
they
were
doing
more
in
the
line
of
cuts.
So
I
am
curious
about
what
they're
doing
for
reserves
the
big,
the
really
big
difference
when
it
comes
to
us
having
the
ability
to
do
that
versus
maybe
some
other
municipalities
is.
C
We
are
not
nearly
as
reliant
on
state
aid,
as
some
of
these
other
municipalities
are
because
we've
been
doing
more
with
less
than
anyone
else
in
the
state
for
a
long
time,
so
they
have
built
up.
Syracuse
rochester
buffalo
in
particular,
have
built
up
their
budgets
to
a
size
that
the
the
amount
of
state
aid
they
get
has
allowed
them
to.
C
J
I'd
add
that,
yes,
I
do
believe
that
this
will
put
us
back
into
fiscal
stress,
as
determined
by
the
comptroller's
score,
the
scoring
system,
heavily
weights
fund
balance
as
a
determinant
of
fiscal
stress.
I
would
also
say
that
mike
is
absolutely
right.
One
of
the
upsides
of
not
having
the
state
help
out
the
city.
J
That
should
is
that,
when
things
go
south
with
the
state,
as
they
are
right
now
that
we're
not
as
much
at
risk,
we
we
believe
we
believe
the
19a
money
that
which
comes
from
mostly
from
the
plaza
of
the
payment,
a
little
taxes
they
gave
us
for
the
new
york
state
plaza
should
be
secure.
You
know
it's
pretty
well
in
wisconsin
state
law,
but
we,
if
you
take
up
the
20
from
our
two
other
biggest
chunks,
which
are
aim
and
capital
city
funding.
M
J
The
answer
is
no,
and
I
think
it's
the
determination
I
think,
is
essentially
that
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
other
than
trying
to
guilt
them
into
doing
it.
I
know
we've
made
contacts
with
the
legal
department,
we've
made
contacts
in
my
office,
but
we
have
about.
I
think
it's
about
65
000
outstanding
between
the
two
campaigns
plus
whatever
applicable
interest.
M
M
Colleague
joe
I
go,
you
know
just
had
questions
as
relates
to
some
of
the
vacancy
vacancies
we
have
within
the
police
department,
and
I
was
looking
through
the
budget
and
some
of
the
equipment
that
the
police
department
is
trying
to
purchase.
Does
that
concern
anyone
like
the
military-grade
equipment?
I
mean
this
is
city
of
albany.
M
No,
I
was
just
wondering
for
the
budget
director
when
a
department
brings
those
type
of
requests.
How
do
what
is
the
thought
process
behind
that?
That's
just
it,
but
I
don't
mind
waiting
tax,
the
chief,
but
if
the
budget
director
want
to
weigh
in
I
mean
military
grade
equipment
for
the
police
department
in
the
city
of
albany
100,
I
mean
all
right.
That's.
B
H
C
They
they
really
goes
through
the
same
process
as
all
the
other
departments
they
submit
what
they're
looking
to
do
for
projects
or
equipment
for
the
year
we
go
through
them.
We
evaluate
them
with
the
department's
need
on
on
how
they
fit
into
our
10
cap.
You
know
whether
they
can
be
done
like
the
timing
of
it.
I
think,
is
this
a
one
year
project
a
two
year
project?
What
is
the
likelihood
of
you
finishing
this?
In
one
year?
C
We
go
through
that
same
process
with
ev
every
every
department
pretty
much
same
and
don't
really
differentiate
because
of
the
type
of
department
that
it
is
at
this
point
you
know
I
know
I
we
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
live
under
a
rock
either.
So
I
do
know
the
concerns
with
the
police
department,
but
at
this
point
that
is
really
into
the
hands
of
of
the
of
the
committee
moving
forward
and
and
much
of
what
we're
doing
with
the.
C
E
B
B
We
might
also
have
some
people
from
the
budget
department
we'll
keep
it
a
surprise,
special
guest
stars,
but
we
appreciate-
I
really
really
appreciate
everybody
being
here
tonight,
especially
with
all
the
storms-
and
I
just
I
pulled
up
the
phone
number
just
in
case
anybody's
still
watching
and
there's
a
concern,
the
phone
number,
if
there's
any
emergencies
aside
from
9-1-1,
which
obviously,
if
you're
in
a
9-1-1
emergency,
call
9-1-1.
But
if
you
see
a
downed
tree
or
anything
like
that,
please
call
518-434-4000
and
have
a
great
night.