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Meeting of the Albany Finance, Assessment and Taxation Committee where they discussed legislation listed on their agenda and voted it out of committee.
A
A
First,
I
would
love
to
introduce
committee
members.
We
have
committee
members,
council,
member
robinson,
ballerin
and
deschet
for
committee
members
and
for
council
members.
We
have
conti
hoey.
A
A
And
finally,
we
have
the
very
patient
and
kind
randy
milano
from
dgs,
and
we
will
actually
be
starting
with
randy.
We
will
begin
our
discussions
with
we'll
discuss
the
4120121
engineering
street
reconstruction
and
then
I
think
we
can
kind
of
take
these
as
a
unit
42
102
21,
the
sidewalk
reconstruction
and
the
43
102
21
ada
compliance
so
randy,
I'm
not
sure.
A
If
you
want
to
say
anything,
I
think
it's
kind
of
straightforward
we've
gotten
the
information
but
you're
welcome
to
say
anything
you
would
like
and
and
if
not,
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions.
B
Yeah,
I
think
every
everybody's
got
all
the
lists
and
all
the
information
and
just
happy
to
answer
any
questions
address
any
concerns,
anything
that
any
anyone
has.
A
A
Are
there
any
questions
tom
or
I
should
start
with
with
judy.
D
Well,
thank
you,
I'm
not
a
member
of
the
committee
so
but
yeah
randy.
Thank
you
for
coming.
I
got
a
few
questions
for
you
up
in
the
15th
ward,
our
major
roadway
is
county
route
204,
which
the
county
responsibility
ends
at
the
north
bethlehem
border
with
the
city.
D
D
D
You
know
this
is
a
major
roadway
from
north
bethlehem
going
down
into
western
avenue,
so
the
traffic,
especially
in
the
morning,
is
terrible.
So
that's
my
question
to
you:
why
aren't
we
getting
sidewalks,
especially
on
our
major
roadways,
russell
road
and
berkshire
boulevard
by
the
way,
a
boulevard?
D
B
All
right
tom,
I'm
not
sure
there
was
actually
a
question
there,
but
you
know
these
roads
were
constructed
a
long
time
ago
and
sidewalks
weren't
included
with
the
original
construction.
Russell
road
is
that
can's
been
kicked
around
for
years
and
we
did
just.
There
was
a
tip
solicitation
just
recently
and
we
did
put
an
application
in
for
federal
aid.
One
of
those
applications
was
for
russell
road.
B
So
as
far
as
berkshire,
I
did
hear
you
know
some
discussions
about.
You
know
that
could
be
get
it
on
our
radar
for
for
sidewalks.
You
know
we're
willing
to
entertain
looking
at
that
and
the
feasibility
of
that.
But
you
know
a
project
like
russell
road
doesn't
really
fit
well.
As
far
as
you
know,
for
funding
I
mean
we're
asking
for
four
million
dollars
for
streets
in
this
budget
and
russell
road
alone
exceeds
that.
So
you.
B
To
get
funding,
we
should
put
in
an
application
for
federal
aid,
so
we
don't
have
a
schedule
yet,
but
when
we
will
hear
back
on
that,
but
I
don't
expect
it'll
be
any
time
possibly
sometime
in
late
june
january,
but
once
we
get
more
information
and
see
how
that
application
goes.
You
know
we'll
we're
happy
to
give
you
an
update
at
that
point.
D
Now
randy,
I
brought
this
up
four
years
ago,
when
I
got
first
elected-
and
I
was
told
this
would
be:
two
million
do
sidewalks
on
both
sides,
and
I
said:
let's
just
do
one
side:
okay,
so
that
cuts
it
down
to
one
million.
But
look
you
just
made
a
statement.
North
bethlehem
did
sidewalks
up
there
from
crumb
hill
road
right
down
to
the
border
of
the
city
they
put
in
sidewalks
because
I
lived
there.
I
saw
them
doing
it,
maybe
about
15
years
ago,
16
years
ago.
D
We
know
that
they
put
sidewalks
in
new
scotland
avenue
for
the
mayor
jennings
when
he
moved
there.
There
was
new
sidewalks
installed
we're
talking
about
and
we
have
the
big
predator
project
which
I'm
not
jealous
of
but
again
this
is.
We
have
kids
walking
to
school,
their
neighborhood
school
and
it's
not
safe.
D
I
could
not
let
my
kid
walk
to
school.
I
had
to
drive
them
every
day
because
we're
too
close
for
the
school
bus.
You
know
if
we
want
to
attract
people,
young
people
to
this
city
and
that's
what
we
want
for
the
tax
revenues
and
to
make
this
a
vibrant
city.
We
got
to
provide
walkability
and
where's
the
equity
randy.
I
mean
you
know,
I
I
keep
seeing
things
about
the
equity
and
there
is
no
equity
for
the
people
up
in
the
15th
ward,
and
you
know
you
said
yeah.
D
Well,
it's
an
old
road
but,
like
I
said
north
bethlehem
managed
to
put
in
like
about
two
miles
worth
of
sidewalks.
Well,
it's
not
two!
Maybe
a
mile
and
a
half,
but
again
it's
question
like
I'm
really
pushing
this
this
year
and
if
I
have
to
go
and
try
to
do
a
lawsuit
for
88
compliance.
I
will
because
I
am
very
serious
about
this.
This
is
disgusting.
D
The
way
what
we're
being
treated
you
know
with
this
in
this
city,
there's
15
awards
and
we're
the
like,
the
orphan
of
the
freaking
city,
and
we
got
to
do
something
about
it,
you're
sitting
there.
I
need
you
to
do
something
about
it
for
me,
okay,
because
I'm
taking
this
personal
now,
my
son's
already
out
of
eagle
point
can't
can't
walk
to
school
ever,
but
I
have
grandchildren
that
can't
and
we
need
to
do
something,
and
I
I
I
can't
be
strong
enough
that
this
is
important
to
me
and
and
to
people
in
my
neighborhood.
E
Thank
you.
I'm
glad
to
see
quail
street
is
on
the
list
for
the
portion.
That's
in
the
ninth
ward,
the
tenth
ward
was
done.
Bus
riders
are
very
happy
also
glad
to
see
you
is
scheduled.
E
You
might
recall
going
back
about
four
or
five
years
ago
I
was
raising
an
issue
with
the
sidewalks
on
the
west
side
of
the
street,
being
cracked
and
divided
in
such
a
way
that
they
turn
into
a
skating
rink
in
the
winter,
and
people
were
complaining
to
me
back
then
you
know
about
that,
and
that
has
not
yet
been
addressed
and
then
more
recently
people
have
been
complaining
about
the
stairs
on
the
east
side
of
ontario
street.
So
I'm
wondering
what
are
the
plans
for
that
being
addressed?
B
That
is,
I
know.
I
know
we've
talked
about
this
in
the
past
and
I
believe
that
that
is
on.
We,
we
have
a
three-year
plan,
it's
a
tentative
plan,
it's
a
it's.
You
know
it's
changing,
I'm
not
sure.
As
far
as
the
possibility
of
of
dgs.
B
Attacking
the
project
with
that
scope,
it's
something
that
I'd
be
happy
to
have
a
discussion
with
them
with,
and
you
know,
follow
up
on
that.
E
Thank
you,
and,
and
especially
I
mean
I
am
concerned
about
the
stairs,
but
I,
but
I
am
even
more
concerned
about
the
west
side
sidewalk,
that
is
all
cracked
and
the
panels
disheveled
and
and
collection
of
the
collection
of
ice
there.
It
is
that
and
the
stairs
are
a
hazard.
So
if
you
could
talk
to
them
about
that,
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
be
glad
to
be
talking
to
somebody
else.
E
A
F
Okay
question:
first
of
all,
I
believe
I
had
spring
street
between
lark
and
dove
on
this
year's
list
and
I
have
not
seen
anything
happening
there
and
I
think
it's
kind
of
late
in
the
year
for
something
to
happen.
Do
you
know
what
the
status
of
that
is
and
if
that's
not
being
done
this
year,
will
that
be
done
in
2022.
B
No
that
got
we,
we
had
looked
at
doing
that
section
after
you
know.
We
had
finished
the
other
section
from
henry
johnson
and
I
believe
there
was
a
conflict
over
there,
richard
with
with
national
grid
and
a
couple
other
issues
that
prevented
us
from
doing
it.
You
know
it's
december
15th,
our
our
our
paving
has
been
done.
Yeah.
B
B
We
can
too,
and
I
could
find
out
exactly-
we
had
some
coordination
issues
with
some
some
some
issues
over
there.
So
there's
a
possibility
that
it's
you
know.
C
F
Yeah,
you
can
always
say
potentially
all
right,
lark
street,
I
frankly
I
have
haven't
seen
any
the
design
plans
or
anything.
So
I
have
no
idea
what
the
the
nature
of
the
work
on
lark
is
gonna,
be
I've
been
totally
out
of
the
loop
on
that?
I
don't
know
if
that's
intentional,
but
I
have
no
idea
what's
going
on
there
is
there.
Some
are
there
plans?
Are
there
design
plans.
B
Yeah
and
you
have
you-
haven't-
been
left
out
intentionally
by
any
means.
We
just
we
just
got
a
consultant
on
board
and
they
were
actually
out
there
last
week
to
start
the
survey
work
so
right
now
the
schedule
moving
forward
for
that.
Just
in
rough
terms
is
they
will
be
doing
design
work
over
the
winter
months.
G
B
All
right,
but
doing
the
detailed
work-
and
you
know
I'd-
be
happy
to
share
what
we
have
with
you.
I
can
shoot
you
an
email,
yeah.
F
On
my
life,
so
if
that's
possible
and
then
the
last
question,
I
mean
this-
the
list
that
we
have
right
now
that
we've
gotten
is
the
the
contracted
list.
Is
there
an
in-house
list
that
we
should
be
getting.
B
Bgs
is
is
working
on
that
rich.
They
they
like
to
wait
until
we
get
our
contracted
streets
finalized
first
and
then
they'll
start
filling
in
some
of
the
gaps.
Some
some
awards
that
maybe
didn't
get
as
much
on
the
contracted
work,
and
so
I
can.
I
can
talk
to
frank
and
sergio
and
see
what
their
their
schedule
is
for
that
I
thought
they
had
mentioned
that
they
probably
have
that
list
together
sometime
in
january.
F
I
Yeah
hi
randy,
first
of
all,
I'll
talk
about
sidewalks
and
the
12th
ward,
the
worst
part,
and
I
really
think
it's
a
danger
because
it's
the
part
that
all
the
you
know-
nursing
assistants
and
staff
at
the
daughters
of
sarah
and
teresa
house-
have
to
walk
to
get
to
the
bus
in
front
of
walmart.
I
And
not
only
is
there
no
sidewalks,
there
are
no
street
lights,
so
it
is
a
danger
thing
and
they're
walking
now
in
the
dark
just
to
get
to
and
from
work.
I
know
I've
mentioned
this
every
year
in
the
last
eight
and
I
think
you're
aware
of
it.
In
fact,
I'm
pretty
sure
you've
gone
up
and
looked
at
it
doesn't
require.
Curving
doesn't
even
require
storm
cylinders
because
it's
it's
got
that
front.
I
It's
off
a
frontage
road
and
it's
sloped
on
either
side
and
it's
all
sand
and
I
don't
think,
there's
any
storm
sewers
that
have
to
be
worked
worked
around
and
not
even
necessarily
sidewalks.
It
could
be
a
walking
path
and
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
concrete,
but
I
think
that's
a
real
danger
and
so
for
sidewalks.
I
That
would
be
my
biggest
request
and-
and
I
know
we
even
put
it
in
that
walkability
study
and.
I
Priority
as
I
thought
it
should,
and
then,
with
regard
to
streets,
you
know
the
12th
ward
has
69.2
lane
miles
of
streets,
of
which
17.8
are
considered
poor
and
the
only
street
in
the
whole
state
in
in
the
whole
ward.
That's
proposed
for
contract
painting
anyway
just
happens
to
be
the
street
in
front
of
my
house,
which
hasn't
been,
which
probably
needs
it.
It
hasn't
been
paved
to
my
memory
in
about
35
years,
but
to
me
the
street
that
needs
it.
The
most
in
the
12th
ward
is
circle.
I
I
So
those
are
my
two
requests
there
is
that
they
look
at
circle
lane,
and
I
appreciate
your
favorite
student
front
of
my
house.
I
never
formally
requested
it
all
the
time
I've
been
on
the
council,
but
I
think
there's
some
other
priorities
too.
I
Maybe
maybe
you
look
at
some
others
with
your
in-house
baby,
because
you
did
a
lot
of
sidewalks.
You
guys
did
a
lot
of
in-house
sidewalk
repairs
this
year.
I've
been
amazed.
B
Great
we'll
take
it
into
consideration
and
again
you
know
once
that
dgs
gets
their
in-house
list
together.
It'll
help
complement
some
of
the
things
that
you
know.
Folks
may
not
be
seeing
here.
I
A
Richard
do
you
have
your
hands
like?
Did
you
want
to
say
something
else
or
is
your
hands
that.
F
Was
probably
left
over,
you
know.
I
did
have
another
question,
though
that
does
relate
to
sidewalks,
and
I
don't
know
if
randy
has
the
answer
on
this
and
was
it's
something
we
brought
up
at
one
of
the
previous
meetings
and
that's.
That
is
the
issue
of
a
comprehensive
assessment
of
sidewalks
in
terms
of
their
accessibility,
etc.
F
I
know
it's
something
that
supposedly
administrative
services
was
doing.
The
survey
on
that
I
think
angelico
was
handling,
but
I
also
understand
angelic
is
leaving.
So
I
don't
know
what
that
status
of
that
project
is,
but
would
then
translate
into
some
type
of
a
capital
budget.
I
don't
know
if
you
know,
and
we
were
supposed
to
get
something,
an
update
on
that
a
while
back
but
haven't
I
don't,
know
randy
if
you
know
where
that
is
or
any
type
of
an
assessment
on
sidewalk
issues
that
might
need
to
be.
B
Yeah
richard
you
are
correct,
angelico
was
heading
that
effort
up,
and
that
was
all
part
of
the
ada
transition
plan
and
the
last
that
I
spoke
to
angelica,
which
is
probably
at
least
a
few
weeks
ago.
B
At
that
time,
I
think
they
had
collected
about
60
percent
of
the
data
yeah,
but
I
think
that
was
an
old
report
and
I
got
the
plan
was
as
far
as
I
knew
from
that
schedule
that
they
were
scheduled
to
hopefully
complete
that
work.
As
far
as
the
survey
work
was
this
year
and
anything
left
over,
they'd
have
to
do
field
work,
they'd,
try
to
do
it,
whether
permitting
over
the
winter
and
anything
left
hanging
would
be
completed
in
the
spring.
All.
A
If
there
are
members
I
I
would
like
to
ask
a
few
things
about
my
award,
so
mine
is
more
of
a
statement,
so
I
have-
and
it's
not
unusual,
to
have
one
road.
I
understand
that,
but
my
road
is
manning
boulevard
and
that
to
me
is
actually
it's
important.
I
don't
want
to
minimize
that,
but
that's
actually
for
everyone
else.
None
of
my
residents
live
directly
on
manning
boulevard.
There
are
no
houses
directly
on
that
street.
A
There
are
sides
like
side
streets
that
people
live
on,
so
you
know,
for
the
residents
of
my
ward.
Manning
boulevard
is
the
same
as
if
you
lived
in
you
know
any
other
ward,
it's
it
really
does
not
have
a
dramatic
impact
and
I
fully
respect
and
I
pay
close
attention
to
the
percentages
of
how
ro
have
you
know
who
has
more
poor
roads,
and
I
understand
I
fully
respect
and
want
every
ward
to
get
roadways
in
there.
A
But
it
is
my
deep
request
because
well-
and
I
will
just
recognize-
you
know
the
second
third
fifth
and
judy-
the
ninth
too,
have
more
poor
rope
percentage
of
four
roads
than
the
13th,
but
I'm
number
five
on
that
list
and
I
really
need
something
that
actually
impacts
the
people
that
live
here.
That
is
a
gift
for
everybody
else.
So
as
you're
looking
at
your
in-house,
please
consider
anthropo.
A
I
will
send
you
a
whole
bunch
of
streets
that
people
have
said
and
I
and
I
am
very
open
about
it,
because
I
believe
in
looking
at
the
city
as
a
whole-
and
I
want
I
want
every
ward
to
have
their
their
different
problem
areas
taken
care
of.
But
when
I
see
it's
just
manning
boulevard
and
literally
nobody
lives
directly
on
that
street.
I
understand
I
live
on
that
street,
but
I
actually
live
on
a
little
offshoot
of
that
street.
I
don't
live
on
that
street,
so
it's
it's
really
frustrating.
A
J
I
was
gonna
since
we're
gonna
add
what
what's
what
our
neighbors
neighborhood
needs
are.
I'm
gonna
add
garfield.
To
that
I
know
we
did.
We
did
we.
We
did
one
side
of
the
sidewalk
and
we
did
the
we
paved
it
last
year,
which
was
great,
so
half
half
of
it
looks
great,
but
the
other
half
the
sidewalks.
J
You
know
look
even
worse,
because
now
you
have
that
one
side
and
the
streets
that
are
done
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
have
that
looked
at
as
part
of
the
in-house,
as
well
as
the
sidewalks
between
lexington
and
robin
on
bradford
street.
It's
it's
right
behind
central
avenue,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
in
that
area
and
I
outside
of
just
sidewalks
and
and
streets.
J
But
if
we
can
look
at
that
as
trying
to
address
the
sidewalk
issues,
it
can
bring
a
little
bit
of
new
energy
and
new
life
as
we
deal
with
the
other
issues
that
we
have
in
that
area,
and
I
I
and
I
echo
a
lot
of
my
my
colleagues
and
I
think
this
is
one
area
where
we
probably
would
all
agree
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
use
upper
funds
to
to
to
address
some
of
these
issues.
J
J
I
think
it's
important
for
that,
because
you
know
we
are
getting
we
we
hear
it
from
our
residents
who
live
on
these
blacks,
whose
whose
kids
walk
on
these
blacks,
who
they
themselves
walk
on
these
blacks
and
on
these
sidewalks,
and
it's
important
for
us
to
share
that.
J
So
we
appreciate
you,
we
appreciate
you
being
here
listening
to
it
and
hopefully
we
can
get
the
funding
to
get
some
of
those
and
if
you,
if,
if
you,
if
there's
a
way
to
get
some
offer
funding,
I'm
sure
you'd
have
a
lot
of
support
from
from
the
council
to
address
that.
B
Thank
you
I
mean
I
understand.
Everybody's
has
some
concerns
and
and
we'd
like
to
do
more
on.
You
know
we
have
limited
resources,
we
have
limited
budgets,
but
I
would
just
like
to
just
say
everything:
that's
been
brought
up
tonight.
It
would
be
helpful,
just
shoot
me.
A
quick
email
follow
up,
give
me
some
streets
and
if
something
is
you
know,
we
can't
fit
it
into
this
year's
schedule.
B
We've
got
it
on
the
radar
for
next
year
and
it
helps
as
well
as
if
you
give
me
five
streets,
prioritize
them,
which
one
would
you
like
to
see
get
done.
First,
second,
third,
fourth,
fifth,
and
so
on.
I
know
I
know
it's
a
challenge.
It's
the
residents
are
tough
and
you
know
I
I
just.
I
think
it's
important
to
know
that
the
city
of
albany
has
the
most
robust,
paving
plan
of
any
municipality
in
this
area.
B
I
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
one
point:
the
fact
that
the
state
doesn't
treat
us
fairly
on
state
routes.
You
know
they
pay
plow,
salt,
repair,
everything
on
route,
5
and
colony,
and
route
9
in
colonnade,
and
when
it
becomes
central
avenue
and
henry
johnson
boulevard
in
albany,
they
don't
touch
it.
Maybe
they
give
us
some
assists.
I
You
know
some
partial
funding,
but
to
me
it
seems
only
fair
that
if
the
neighboring
towns
are
getting
route
32
and
south
pearl
street
paved
when
they
go
out
of
albany,
we
should
get
them
paid
by
by
the
state
when
they
come
into
albany,
and
I
know
at
least
three
times.
Maybe
since
I've
been
on
the
council,
we've
submitted
resolutions
to
to
the
state
legislature
to
dot
and
it
had
about
the
same
effect
as
submitting
talking
to
the
statue
of
some
dead
person.
In
other
words,
nothing
happened.
I
I
don't
even
know
if
we
got
a
response.
Saying
thank
you
for
your
letter,
but
that's
it
just
seems
so
unfair
and
I
would
think
the
other
schenectady
is
in
the
same
boat.
So
I
was
troy
as
far
as
I
know,
but
washington
avenue,
for
example,
needs
some
some
repassion
but
central
to
central.
Definitely
a
state
route
so
just
put
that
thought
to
make
some
noise
about
with
with
the
state,
whatever
greater
they'll
do.
B
We
hear
that,
and
it's
been
a
sticking
point
across
all
these
municipalities
that
were
left.
The
municipality
is
left
to
bear
the
brunt
of
this.
They,
the
state,
did
free
up
what
they're
calling
state
touring
routes
and
I
pretty
much
went
all
the
way
up
to
the
program
administrator
and
it's
very
unclear.
If
this
is
going
to
be
one-time
funding,
you
know
we're
pushing
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
people
are
pushing
for
this
to
be
a
regular
funding
and
that
funding
is
kind
of
similar
to
like
chips.
B
A
If
it's
possible,
just
because
it's
late,
I
hate
to
cut
down
discussion
but
we're
on
8
30
and
we're
just,
we
still
have
a
decent
amount
to
discuss.
So
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
could
I
get
a
motion
on
41
201
21,
the
street
reconstruction.
E
I'll
make
the
motion
to
vote
ordinance
41.102.21.
E
A
Yes,
and
can
I
get
a
second
alfredo
all
in
favor,
that's
unanimous,
could
I
get
a
motion
on
43
102
21?
That
is
the
ada
compliance
somebody.
C
A
Shake
it
up
and
move
like
not
a
second
and
you're
moving
it
out
with
a
positive
recommendation,
correct
mike.
A
30
seconds
all
in
favor,
that's
unanimous
randy!
Thank
you,
so
so
very
much
for
your
patience
and
also
for
coming
in
I
streets
and
sidewalks
and
the
ada
compliance
are
a
passionate
point
for
all
of
us.
So
we
apologize
for
having
you
wait
and
then
getting
a
little
bit
more
passionate
with
you
than
we
may
otherwise
be.
But
we
really
do
appreciate
your
time
and
your
all
that
you
put.
G
A
I
didn't
even
offer
to
encourage
it's
like
to
say
he
could
stay
if
he
wanted,
because
that's
just
that's
just
silly
at
this
stage.
So
what
I
would
really
like
to
do
is
have
a
I'd
like
to
be
I'd
like
to
kind
of
quickly
go
just
mention
the
different
bonding
ordinances
that
people
feel
comfortable
voting
through.
So
we
can
get
an
idea
of
that
and
it's
possible
that
we're
able
to
just
vote
on
some,
and
I
think
that
any
that
I
would
like
to
discuss
local
laws,
s
and
t.
A
I
think
those
are
very
important.
But
aside
from
that,
I
I
feel
like
what
we're
not
comfortable
having
a
big
discussion
on
that
might
need
to
wait
for
future
finance
committee.
E
Jenny,
yes
to
that,
to
that
effect,
I'm
very
comfortable
with
the
ordinance
34.102.21,
which
is
the
intravid
surveillance.
This
is
a
project
that
that
has
been
ongoing.
It's
a
three
or
four
year
project.
We
did
get
a
response
from
david
gallon
that
that,
while
reimbursement,
I
was
right
that
reimbursement
is
expected.
We
have
not
received
that
reimbursement
yet
so
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
to
this
next
phase
of
it
without
us
authorizing
the
bonding.
E
But
in
the
meantime,
they're
going
to
be
looking
for
that
reimbursement
and
if,
before
the
treasurer's
office
actually
goes
to
bond,
they
get
the
reimbursement
for
the
first
phase.
Then
they
would
forego
this
bonding,
but
in
the
meantime
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
put
them
in
the
position
of
continuing
this
particular
project
with
that
understanding.
So
unless
there's
questions,
I'd
like
to
recommend
that
we
vote
ordinance,
34.102.
A
That's
unanimous
the-
and
I
I
appreciate
that,
like
jumping
in
with
that,
if
anybody
has
that,
but
otherwise
3210221
that's
the
building
facility
acquisition,
there
was
the
thought,
the
process
that
was
sent
about
that.
Basically,
there
was
a
we.
There
was
a
space
that
was
used
by
the
water
department.
A
The
water
department
is
taking
that
down
and
building
a
new
warehouse
that
they
are
planning
to
use.
All
of
so
there
is
a
need
for
an
additional
warehouse,
which
is
the
reason
for
this
and
including
for
the
sign,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
the
issues
is
the
sign.
There's
been
a
lot
of
issues
with
traffic
signs,
as
we
know,
and
this
would
be
the
new
home
for
the
traffic
signs.
A
Yes,
it's
going
to
be
used
by
apd
afd.
I
know
that
I
know
apd
and
I
know
apd
and
the
fire
department
need
it,
and
I
I
had
asked
cgs
about
it.
They
mentioned
dgs
and
the
thing
I
know
for
sure,
apd
and
and
the
fire
department
are
going
to
be
putting
equipment
there.
I
do
not
know
dgs.
E
Dgs
oversees
the
street
lights
and
one
of
the
questions
I
raised
is
I
thought
that
we
were
contracting
out
with
regard
to
any
supplemental
street
light
work,
so
I
didn't
anticipate
that
our
staff
would
actually
be
needing
to
store
equipment
on
it
and
I
didn't
feel
like
I
got
enough
of
an
answer
on
that.
I
do
have
some
questions
about.
A
E
Yeah
so
I
just
feel
like
I
have
more
questions,
but
if
the
rest
of
the
committee
wants
to
vote
out
of
committee,
I'm
you
know
I'll
simply
vote.
No,
because
I
don't
have
full
information,
but
I
I
don't
it's
more.
You
know
I
might
be
inclined
to
abstain
because
the
lack
of
you
know
full
information
on
it.
But
it's
up
to
the
committee.
A
If
the
other
committee
members
are
comfortable
moving
through,
we
can
do
that
and
then
what
I
would
love
to
do
is
to
I
can
reiterate
different
questions
and
see
if
they
can
be
and
surge.
E
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
note,
too
one
of
the
thoughts
that
occurred
to
me
is,
I
know
that
sometimes
unused
parking
facilities
are
used.
You
have
portions
of
it,
are
fenced
off
and
used
for
storage
of
stuff
and
with
us
having
declined
income
from
the
parking
authority.
E
I
don't
know
that
that
we
really
have
the
ability
to
do
that
because
they're
a
separate
entity,
but
you
know
maybe
we
could
rent
space
from
them
or
something
like
that.
So
I
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more.
Maybe
consideration
of
alternatives,
or
you
know
to
find
out
more
about
what
they've
done
in
that
way.
But
again,
that's
just
something
I
want
to
mention
as
long
as
you
said
that
you're
going
to
be
talking
to
them
about.
I.
A
A
I'm
all
in
favor
hi,
so
that
is
farrell,
bellerin,
o'brien
and
robinson
in
the
affirmative.
Any,
and
would
you
prefer
to
vote
no
or
obscene?
E
A
Well,
you
smiled
beautifully
as
you
did
it
so
next
we
have
3310221.
A
A
So
there's
I
guess
it
was
of
the
frequency
that
was
the
lowest
frequency,
so
it's
I
I've
heard
that
about
this,
like
the
fcc
actually
selling
frequencies
for
different
things,
but
it
never
occurred
to
me
that
it
would
happen
for
something
in
an
emergency
situation,
but
I
guess
this
technically
is
not
an
emergency
situation,
so
I
don't
know
if
people
are
comfortable
moving
forward
with
this.
This
was
considered
a
big
priority,
because
in
april
of
2022
those
frequencies
will
change,
go
ahead.
Judy.
E
For
renewal
in
time,
or
is
the
fcc
really
just
taking
people's
frequencies
and
discontinuing
it?
And
if
so,
they
should
be
aware
of
the
consequences
of
this,
I
think
through
congressman
tonka's
office,
notwithstanding
that
I
would
vote
for
it.
But
for
the
fact
I
raised
a
question
regarding
there's
a
lot
of
funding
in
outstanding
bonds.
E
D
E
A
half
million
dollars
of
outstanding
bonds
for
various
projects,
some
of
which
are
for
places
where
I
know
radio
frequencies
are
used
on
some
of
the
routes,
for
example,
whether
it's
west,
western
or
new
scotland,
etc.
There's
little
pots
of
money
sitting,
sometimes
significant
lots
of
money
sitting
around.
So
I
asked
that
question
I
think
I
I
think
I
think
that
the
council
should
get
an
answer
to
that
question.
E
A
I
think
with
the
bonds,
where
we're
all
we
all
kind
of
share
that
if
they
have
leftover
funding,
my
the
one
thing,
just
as
a
side
note-
I
don't
know
about
this
specifically,
but
the
fcc
selling
frequencies
is
actually
kind
of
a
really
fascinating
thing.
They
do
actually
there's
there's
a
whole
thing
with
radio
frequencies
and
television
frequencies,
but
it's
a
separate.
A
A
I
don't
know
this
specific
circumstance,
but
it's
just
as
a
side
note.
It
is
thing
that
happens
and
it's
fascinating,
but
are
people
comfortable
voting
this
through?
I
personally
would
not
mind
waiting
to
find
out
if
the
bonding
you
know
if
we
have
more
money
in
the
bonds-
and
I
I
agree
we
shouldn't
this-
was
one
of
the
ones
that
I
kind
of
tagged.
A
I
certainly
want
to
replace
the
frequencies
if
we
have
no
other
options,
but
I
also
think
that
this
is
something
that
we
can
vote
actually
take
up
in
committee
in
january,
and
it
should
still
be
fine
in
terms
of
bonding.
I
I
A
A
The
issue
with
this
is
we
weren't
sure
that
it
actually
could
be
bonded
for
so
we
did
not
have
a
more
full
discussion,
while
the
fire
department
was
here,
brett
checked
and
in
fact
it
is
fine
to
bond
for
this
is
there?
Was
it
was
kind
of
lightly
discussed?
A
Their
cardiac
monitors
are
at
the
end
of
their
their
recommended
service
life
and
they
need
replacement.
A
What
I'd
actually
like
to
do
is
skip
over
the
salary
adjustments,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
we
will
actually
be
taking
that
up,
but
I
I'd
like
to
have
a
just
quick
discussion
on
that
and
move
on
to
91
21
21
homestead
versus
non-homestead.
I
have
to
apologize
as
I
was
going
through.
All
of
my
I
have
to
as
I
was
going
through
all
of
my
notes.
A
I
did
not
find
notes
on
this
on
and
I
don't
honestly
remember
if
it's
something
that
we
needed
further
information
on
or
if
it
was
something
we
just
did
not
get
to
in
the
meeting.
So
I
figured
I
would
bring
it
up
if
we
need
more
information.
I
will
take
better
notes
this
time
and
find
out,
and
you
know
get
it
for,
but
I
do
think
this
is
something
we
need
to
pass
sooner
rather
than
later.
So
we.
E
Do
need
to
pass
it
sooner
than
later,
but
generally
we
get
from
the
administration.
E
Provides
as
potential
options,
percentages
and
just
basic
go
ahead.
H
Yeah,
I
I
did
reach
out
to
the
acting
assessor
larry
farbstein,
who
is
our
in
normal
times
and
our
actual
assessors,
not
on
paternity
leave,
larry's
our
tax
consultant
and
handles
a
lot
of
aspects
of
evaluation
and
deriving
our
tax
rates
and
things
like
that
and
he's
actually
the
one
who
ran
the
calculations
this
year,
the
state
used
to
provide
these
calculations
are
used
to
provide,
I
suppose,
more
data
for
municipalities
when
it
comes
to
deriving
the
homestead,
not
homestead
rates,
but
apparently
in
recent
years.
H
According
to
mr
farbstein,
more
of
that,
the
onus
that
has
been
put
on
the
municipalities
themselves,
so
larry
was
actually
the
one
who
came
up
with
the
rates
for
this
year,
based
on
locally
available
data
that
we
had
in
the
assessor's
office
and
as
such,
there
is
no.
H
I
think
you
would
refer
to
a
sort
of
a
form
or
a
worksheet
council
member.
That
was,
you,
know
three
ish
pages
in
length.
As
far
as
mr
farbstein's
concerned
there,
or
as
far
as
he
knows,
there's
no
such
document
available.
He
has
you
know
various
spreadsheets
that
he
used
to
come
up
with
the
the
homestead.
Not
homestead
proportions,
but
those
might
be
don't
want
to
put
words
in
the
council's
mouth.
They
may
be
a
little
more
technical
than
what
the
council
is
really
looking
for.
H
E
E
And
I've
moved
about
that
out
of
committee
with
a
positive
recommendation.
This
is
where
we're
adding
board
up
fees,
maintenance,
costs,
etc
for
to
tax
bills,
and
the
only
outstanding
question
was
why
we
were
doing
that
this
year
for
2019
waste
collection
fees.
E
When
for
the
other
fees,
we
were
only
doing
essentially
overdue
bills
for
2020
and
2021,
and
basically
darya
shanifar
has
reminded
us
that
there
were
some
glitches
with
regard
to
getting
the
call
fees
out
and
added
to
tax
bills
or
being
billed
out
directly
so
that
essentially,
he
has
confirmed
that
our
authorization
of
the
2019
is
not
double
billing
or
or
double
assessment
on
the
tax
bills
for
those.
So
that
was
the
only
outstanding
issue
that
I
had
with
regard
to
that.
E
A
And
was
there
any
further
discussion
or
do
people
want
to
vote?
Looks
like
people
would
like
to
vote
so
all
in
favor.
J
A
Excellent,
I'm
sorry.
H
Councilmember
carol
was
there
a
vote
taken
on
the
homestead
non-homestead.
A
E
Yeah,
so
let
me
just
do
a
little
bit
more
looking
to
figure
out
whether
I'm
comfortable
voting
it
out
with
a
positive
recommendation
or
just
voted
out.
So
it's
out
of
committee
so
that
we
can
act.
A
Thank
you.
What
I
want
to
do
I'll
very,
very
quickly,
the
the
salary
adjustments
I
there
there's
just
a
lot
of.
We
really
didn't
get
very
far
on
the
salary
adjustments
and
discussion
we
have
in
there
there's
several
different
things
that
are
in
there
that
are
kind
of
common
sense.
So
if
everyone
remembers
there
were
several
departments
that
the
raises
were
not
automatically
put
into
the
budget,
so
that's
I
mean
codes
is
one
of
those.
A
So
codes,
I
believe
recreation
is
also
that
purchasing
is
just
a
title
change.
I
think
the
police
we
were
all
so
comfortable
with
they
were
done
to
eliminate
the
command
stipends
and
move
that
compensation
position
salary,
the
other.
I
think
the
biggest
issues
were
the
title,
changes
and
special
events.
A
I
think
we
were
comfortable
with
dgs
too.
The
water
department
was
the
big
kind
of
dramatic
thing,
so
I
wanted
to
see
if
people
were
comfortable,
maybe
taking
those
pieces
out
for
further
discussion
in
the
future.
A
Normally
I
would
just
put
it
off,
but
because
some
of
those
departments
did
not,
they
did
not
get
those
raises
that
they
should
have
gotten
because
of
typo.
I
really
don't
want
to
hold
it
up,
so
I
I
you
know.
I
don't
believe
that
those
the
people
that
work
in
those
positions
should
not
have
those
raises,
because
there
was
an
administrative
law.
A
F
I'm
sorry
just
to
note
I
mean
in
terms
of
what
you're
doing
on
the
on
the
salary
increases
doing
them
now
or
whenever
I
mean
partly,
we
do
it
to
try
to
get
it,
have
them
in
the
printed
adopted
budget
book
and
you
don't
want
to
put
them
off
too
much
into
the
next
year
or
whatever,
so
they
don't
make
the
printed
book,
but
there's
always
desired
that
the
printed
book
be
as
accurate
as
possible.
So
that's
just
a
factor
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
this
done.
A
And
we
don't
actually
have
any
oversight
over
the
water
department,
so
I
guess
that's
another
piece
of
it,
but
I'm
I
have
no
doubt
joe
coffee
is
always
happy
to
come
in
and
talk
to
us.
So
it
could
be
something
that
we
can
move
forward
with
and
then
ask
them
to
come
in
and
maybe
do
a
full
review
of
the
water
department
which
might
be
nice
for
the
new
members
anyway.
A
E
E
E
This
out
of
committee,
with
a
positive
with
these
amendments
with
a
positive
recommendation,
so
the
amendments
are
to
delete
the
provisions
regarding
corporation
council.
Keep
keep
the
codes,
keep
the
recreation
keep
the
purchasing
title
change,
keep
special
events,
title
changes,
keep
dgs
changes,
keep
dgs,
there's
all
these
dgs,
so
there's
about
15
of
them,
adjustments
that
leaves
a
question
about
apd
and
and
water.
E
A
E
Like
this
solution,
jenny,
because
I
I
was
kind
of
having
the
same
attitude
so
with
regard
to
the
salary
resolution
with
those
amendments
resolution
85.112.21,
are
voted
out
with
a
positive
recommendation
to
those
with
those
amendments
taking
out
corporate
council,
apd
and
water.
E
C
A
I
I
will
say
a
brett
you
are
here,
please
tell
you,
know
your
people
in
corporate
council's
office.
This
is
not
a
permanent
thing,
but
it's
rather
a
it's
nearly
nine
o'clock
at
night,
and
we
just
we
need
to
go
to
bed
so,
but
we
will
definitely
take
it
up
soon
in
the
new
year
and.
J
H
For
what
it's
worth
marisa
did
want
me
to
sort
of
reiterate
on
her
behalf
that
the
reason
for
the
corp
council
request
was
that
the
the
individual
in
question
would
be
taking
on
quite
a
bit
more
responsibility
through
the
water
department,
and
I
I
I
think
there
is
a
arrangement
perhaps
that
the
water
department
would
be
helping
to
contribute
toward
this.
This
position
as
well
and
and
it's
frankly,
a
retention
issue
as
well
in
order
to
retain
a
high
quality
member
of
our
staff.
E
I
do
want
to
note
that
my
my
motion
also
is
intended
to
reflect
that
the
totals
at
the
bottom
of
the
page
would
also
be
changed
to
reflect
the
deletions
made
in
this
motion.
I
A
A
It's
it's
eleven
thousand
dollars,
basically,
so
that
actually
corporate
this
office
is
making
out
a
little
bit,
because
it
looks
like
they're
getting
a
little
bit
more.
A
No
though
it
leaves
out
the
water
department's
salary
changes,
if,
if
we
would
like,
I
mean,
I
think
that
one
of
the
issues
with
the
corp
council's
piece
is
that
is
that
it,
it
is
a
retention
issue,
so
it's
this
person
will
be
doing.
H
And
I
probably
should
have
mentioned
the
concomitant
reduction
in
outside
council
fees
as
well,
because
currently
the
water
department
uses
outside
counsel
for
quite
a
bit
of
stuff,
and
the
idea
is
that
my
colleague
would
be
taking
on
a
lot
of
that
work.
I
E
One
of
my
issues
with
this
is
that
there's
two
people
in
the
same
title
and
one
person
is
getting
the
raise
the
other
person
isn't
and
while
brett
noted
that
the
corporation
counsel's
office
will
be
making
some
adjustments
in
the
way
they
classify
these
positions
that
this
particular
amendment
does
not
address
that.
I.
H
Think
I
remember
with
that
title
not
getting
the
raise
and
for
what
it's
worth
on
a
personal
level.
I
certainly
am
supportive
of
this
person
getting
the
raise
and
I
don't
begrudge
them
that
whatsoever.
I
understand
the
concern
about
titles
and
you
know
with
with
the
way
people
have
been
hired
and
promotions
and
the
way
things
have
gone
on.
H
Titles
have
gotten
a
little
askew,
but
I,
as
I
understand
it,
is
maurice's
intention
to
if
not
do
away
with
titles
altogether,
at
least
to
I
think,
first
reduce
the
number
of
different
titles
and
you
know
certainly
standardize
the
use
of
them.
E
So,
what's
the
committee's
pleasure
on
this,
if
there's
a
majority
that
wants
to
modify,
I
will
note
that
another
issue
that
I
have
with
this
is
we
have
been
waiting
for
two
years
for
a
salary
equity
study
and-
and
this
is
relevant
to
that,
especially
since
again
you
know
the
the
thing
that
I
have
tremendous
difficulty
with
and
what
has
happened
in
the
last
several
years
is
that
people
at
the
top
and
the
pay
scales
have
been
getting
very
sizable
salary
increases
in
the
you
know.
Well,
over
five.
E
You
know
this
one
is
something
like
14
percent
and
and
people
at
the
lower
end
of
the
pay
scale.
E
We
haven't
seen
advocacy
for
to
address
their
situations,
I'm
somebody
who
very
much
favors,
sometimes
across
the
board,
500
increase,
because
the
when
you
keep
on
doing
on
a
percentage
basis,
you
just
increase
the
the
gap,
the
livability
gap
for
various
wages,
so
that
all
feeds
into
I.
I
would
rather
wait
for
it,
the
the
equity
study
and
and
for
marissa
to
to
take
a
look
overall
about
whatever
this
reorganization
is
that
she's
doing
rather
than
singling
one
person
out.
A
I
personally
would
prefer
to
put
it
in
mainly
because
I
I
think
bringing
things
in-house
is
something
that
we
should
encourage,
and
I
appreciate
the
inventiveness
of
being
you
know,
bringing
things
in-house
and
also
not
necessarily
being
able
to
increase
someone's
salary
to
reflect
increase
things
that
they're
doing
and
not
necessarily
increasing
our
budget.
It's
an
inventive
way
to
do
it
and-
and
it
overall
will
save,
even
though
lowering
the
water
department's
fees
attorney
fees
is
not
necessarily
lowering
our
city
budget
as
city
residents.
A
H
If
I
could
just
add
one
more
thing,
council
member,
I'm
sorry,
I
should
mention
as
well
that
the
water
department
will
probably
give
a
lot
well.
In
fact,
it
will
give
a
lot
more
work
than
a
lot
of
other
departments.
Do
this
position
will
entail
attending
water
board
meetings?
I
think
it'll
entail
attending
water
finance
authority
meetings
as
well.
There
are
a
lot
of
those
meetings.
H
But
yes,
it's
there's,
also
a
very
wide
range
of
legal
issues
that
the
person
who
deals
with
the
water
board
will
have
to
confront
and
have
expertise
on.
So
it's
it's.
As
I
said,
more
work
comes
out
of
the
water
department
than
you
find
from
a
lot
of
other
departments
coming
to
the
law
department.
A
So
I
am
a
yes,
I
believe
judy
is
a
no
alfredo
and
mike
do
you
want
to
weigh
in
on
this.
A
We're
in
the
we're
getting
the
the
results
are
supposed
to
come
in
december
or
january,
so
we
will
be
getting
that
soon.
The
so
you
know
I'm
not
sure
exactly
when,
but
it
is
due
either
this
month
or
next.
I
C
J
I'm
leaning
on
a
weight
and
on
only
reason
for
that
is
we're
making
these
other
departments
wait
for
the
department
heads
to
come
and
speak
to
us
and
I
feel
like
we
should
just
be
fair.
If
this
this
was
one
of
those
departments
that
we
were
looking
to
reach
out
to
then
we
should
wait
for
that
department
here
to
come
in
just
like
we're
going
to
wait
for
the
water
department
as
well
as
apd,
to
come
in
and
speak
about
their
their
salary
increases.
I
J
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
real
shuffle,
because
I
know
one
of
the
things
are.
The
one
thing
that's
and
brett
was
talking
on.
This
was
the
the
title
move
around.
It's
been
noted
that
in
corporation
council's
office
there
has
been
a
lot
of
shift
since
my
time,
I'm
joining
with
the
with
the
council.
There
has
been
a
huge
turnover
in
that
department
that
requires
a
lot
of
shifting
around.
I
will
say
this
in
terms
of
just
seniority.
Just
so
council
members
can
understand
the
person
who's
getting.
G
This
is
actually
outside
of
the
corporation
council.
The
deputy
is
the
longest
serving
member
in
corporation
council,
which
is,
if
you
want
to
put
all
attorneys
who
are
on
payroll
for
the
city
before
the
after
that
person
is
then
me
and
then
brett
right
after
that,
and
then
it
goes
down
the
line,
the
most
recent
hires.
So
I
just
want
council
members
to
understand
that
the
person
who's
getting
is
also
been
is
also
the
longest
serving
thus
far
in
the
department
as
well.
So
just
as
just
background.
H
And
as
a
further
illustration
of
that
turnaround,
yeah
jr
would
be
the.
I
guess
then
fourth
most
senior
attorney,
and
that
would
make
me
the
fifth
and
I
think
the
two
of
us
are
coming
up
on
only
our
second
anniversaries
with
the
city.
So
there's
a
lot
of
attorneys
behind
us
in
terms
of
seniority,
and
we
haven't
been
here
all
that
long.
E
G
There
has
been
a
huge
ship
in
corporation
council's
office
within
the
last
year.
It's
something
that's
been
felt
by
a
lot
of
the
attorneys
in
there,
especially
me
who
works
with
them
directly
in
terms
of
a
lot
of
other
things
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
this
person
has
the
longest
serving
and
then
it's
right.
Then
it's
me
and
I've
only
been
going
on
two
years,
so
there's
a
huge
shift.
So
if
retention
is
a
big
priority,
I
think
this
should
be
well.
You
know
one
information,
that's
really
important.
G
Yes,
that's
right,
because
the
other
senior
assistant
is
no
longer
with
us
who
was
on
the
same
budget
line,
and
so
they
were
moving
them
up
to
bring
them
to
that.
I
believe.
J
J
H
H
H
Right,
there's,
no
there's
no
salary
amount
tied
to
the
individual
titles.
You
know
the
titles
are
sort
of
vague
notional
distinctions
of
seniority,
but
again
they
haven't
always
taken.
E
C
A
E
J
A
And
that,
I
think,
is
the
question
I
don't
know
if
they
actually
are
getting
a
title
change
with
that.
That
probably
would
have
been
a
better
way
to
deal
with
this,
but
I
don't
know
that
they
actually
are
getting
a
different
title
change.
I
think
that
they
might
be
staying
the
same
and
that
they're
getting
new
new
duties
to
do
in
this
title.
A
Yeah,
I
I'm
I
apologize.
I
I
think
that
we
kind
of
need
to
move
forward
on
this,
so
we
were
in
the
space
of
taking
out
the
corp
council,
the
apd
and
the
water
department
pieces.
A
Judy
are
you
comfortable
voting
on
the
homestead
versus
non-homestead?
I.
E
I
do
feel
as
though
in
due
diligence
we
should
have
something
in
writing
that
provides
us
with
an
explanation,
but
I'm
okay
with
you
know,
because
the
treasurer
needs
to
send
out
tax
bills,
and
he
needs
this
that
I
okay
with
voting
this
out
of
committee,
with
no
recommendation
with
the
understanding
that
the
the
assessor
or
the
budget
office-
and
this
was
noted
at
the
last
committee
meeting
with
joel
here-
that
this
information
was
being
sought,
and
I
think
that
nick
at
one
point
said
that
he
had
this
information.
E
So
you
know,
I
think
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
be
provided
with
some
documentation
that
tell
it
telling
us
that
the
rate
is
what
it
can
be.
The
the
the
proportions
are
within
the
realm
of
the
legal
possibilities
that
we
are
allowed
to
do.
There's
certain
laws
that
do
apply,
or
maybe
those
laws
have
been
changed.
E
That
has
resulted
in
this
change
with
the
state
not
providing
these
proportions.
The
options
for
proportions
to
us,
but
I
want
the
information
you
know.
I
want
more
information
rather
than
just
being
a
rubber
stamp
on
this,
but
getting
it
out
of
committee
with
a
positive
recommendation,
so
that
would
be
90.121.21r.
A
Now,
last
but
not
least,
and
thank
you
for
being
so
patient
richard,
we
have
local
laws,
s
and
t
richard.
If
you
wouldn't
mind.
A
I
F
So,
okay,
so
local
s.
So
under
the
city
charter,
there
are
certain
transfers
that
are
made
through
budget
transfers
that
are
made
through
enr
that
are
subject
to
council
prior
approval.
Local
law
s
doesn't
change
the
council's
authority.
In
that
regard,
it
only
defines
the
term
budgeted
funds
which
is
an
undefined
term
and
clarifies
what
that
means
to
include
funds
in
the
adopted
budget
for
any
additional
fund
transfers
to
the
general
fund
that
might
occur,
which
sometimes
happens
or
any
transfers
from
the
fund.
H
F
And
that
would
fall
under
the
definition
of
budgeted
funds,
which
is
an
existing
term
and
again,
the
only
time
when
the
ena
transfers
that
are
subject
to
council
approval
are
ones
where,
after
transfers
equaling,
four
percent
of
the
budget
have
been
hit.
So
that's
that
four
percent
cap
we
talked
about
earlier
transfers
which
would
basically
transfer
like
37.5
of
a
department
or
a
commission
budget
and
the
more
pertinent
ones
which
was
added
by
the
council
later,
transfers
that
relate
to
a
salary,
total
or
salary
rate.
F
F
Any
questions
on
that
or
we
don't
have
need
to
go
wrong.
Does
this
require
a
public
hearing?
It
does
require
so
on
both
of
these
local
laws,
as
well
as
local
law
d,
that
it
was
to
have
that
we
talked
about
earlier
once
they
pass
it'll,
be
a
public
hearing
that
the
mayor
holds.
F
F
F
She
can
veto
it,
but
if
she
takes
no
action
on
it,
it
automatically
dies,
because
this
council
is
no
longer
here.
So
what
most
likely
will
happen
either
she'll
sign
it
or
she'll.
Just
take
no
action,
in
which
case
it
dies,
you
know
pocket
veto
and
then
the
next
council
can
take
it
up,
which
I'm
I
believe
they
probably
will.
J
F
F
It
would-
and
it
doesn't
again,
it
doesn't
increase
the
authority
of
the
council
regarding
what
types
of
transfers
that
ena
makes
that
the
council
have
to
pre-approve,
but
it
would
relate
to
so
any
funds
that
are
part
of
the
adopted
budget,
any
funds
additional
fund
transfers
to
the
general
fund.
So
that
would
include
the
opera
funds.
It
could
include
outside
grants
et
cetera,
and
we
get
grants
that
come
in
all
the
time.
F
Those
grants,
don't
they
never
impact
salary
issues,
though,
and
then
of
course,
any
transfers
into
the
general
fund
from
the
fund
balance.
So
it
relates
to
transfers
from
whatever
source
that
come
into
the
general
fund.
J
Debate
about
shared
powers
and
and
checks
and
balances,
bringing
us
to
our
historical
events
of
how
this
has
been
precedence
to
our
history
and
bringing
it
all
the
way
to
when
corporate
council
said
that
we
we
couldn't
have
any
access
to
any
any
oversight
over
these
funds
to
our
present
day.
I
think
this
is
something
that
a
lot
of
people
want
to
see
us
do.
I
think
this
is
something
a
lot
of
council
members
want
to
see
done.
J
I
don't
think
this
was
something
we
thought
we
would
be
doing
or
would
even
be
an
issue
to
have
to
even
address
you
know
before
the
statements
made
by
the
council
corporate
council
a
few
months
ago.
You
know
I
I
think.
J
Hopefully
this
will
address
some
of
the
concerns.
People
have
it's
just
basic
checks
and
balances,
and
I
I'm
going
to
end
it
at
that.
Let's,
let's,
let's,
let's
get
this
voted.
E
I'd
like
to
second
that,
but
I
would
like
to
second
everything
that
alfredo
said:
I
do
want
to
point
out
that,
in
addition
to
what
corporation
council
had
to
say
regarding
this
issue,
there
was
a
certain
actions
taken
by
the
mayor
and
furtherance
of
that
advice.
That
is
how
we
became
aware
of
the
novel
interpretation
that
required
resulted
in.
I
think
some
alarm
and
a
surprise,
and
I
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
richard
once
again
for
looking
to
figure
out
how
to
solve
the
problem
as
expeditiously
as
possible.
E
I
will
note
that
we
are
on
notice
that
the
mayor
takes
the
position
that
this
needs
to
go
for
a
public
referendum.
So
I'm
not
necessarily
optimistic
that
she's
going
to
be
signing.
E
So,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
I
think
that
we
need
to
act
with
regard
to
our
authority
also
over
our
funds,
and
you
know,
hopefully
this
language
and
richard's
work
will
take
effect
in
the
not
too
distant
future.
Even
if
there's
disagreement
with
the
mayor.
But
thank
you
again,
richard.
F
Okay,
local
law
t
is
also
charter
amendment.
This
relates
to
the
board
of
estimated
apportionment,
which
right
now
is
comprised
of
the
mayor.
Comptroller,
I'm
sorry
city,
auditor,
president
of
the
council,
on
the
treasurer
and
the
corporation
council.
F
So
this
would
change
the
composition
to
remove
the
corporation
council,
nothing
personal
love,
marissa
we've
worked
together
on
other
issues
in
the
assembly
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
it's
nothing
personal,
but
would
replace
the
corporation
council
with
the
president,
pro
tem
of
the
council
or
their
designee
and
again
the
reason.
The
rationale
here
is:
first
of
all,
the
council
common
council
in
a
sense,
is
the
only
elective
entity-
that's
not
represented
on
ena.
F
This
would
make
ena
a
body
that
is
totally
comprised
of
elected
representatives,
which
is
appropriate,
since
you
know
we're
the
ones
that
have
the
authority
in
terms
of
budget
and
the
council
is
the
body
that
adopts
the
budget
and
as
I've
indicated
in
the
past,
this
is
an
argument
I
made
going
back
to
2003
2008.
I
guess,
even
though
the
the
the
president
of
the
council
common
council
is
on
there.
The
president
of
the
common
council
is
not
actually
under
second
class
city's
law.
F
The
president
of
the
common
council
is
not
a
member
of
the
council,
but,
as
is
a
presiding
officer
which
has
a
different
meaning
than
member,
but
the
president
of
the
council
is
a
separately
elected
official
who
is
not
representative
of
the
council
or
accountable
to
the
council,
and
therefore
the
council
itself.
The
15
members
who
comprise
the
council
do
not
have
representation
on
ena,
even
though
it's
the
council
itself
that
reviews
and
adopts
the
budget
and
has
the
authority
to
amend
before
passage.
F
So
this
would
provide
that
the
council
have
representation
on
ena.
It
does
not
change
the
role
or
authority
of
an
elective
elected
official,
and
it
would
also
just
lost
my
train
of
thought.
Oh
yeah.
It
would
also
make
ena
a
body
which
is
totally
comprised
of
elective
representatives,
so
I
think
it's
important
again.
Ena
has
a
lot
of
authority,
and
I
think
it's
important
that
you
that
the
council
have
direct
representation
down
the
road,
I'm
a
proponent
of
eliminating,
ena
and
doing
and
really
doing
real
budget
reform.
F
A
You
richard
judy,
I
think
your
hand
is
up
from
last
time,
so
hey
jaya,
it
is.
G
Richard
just
real
quick,
because
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
the
when
the
charter
amendment
they've
decided
to
make
the
president
city-wide
elected
as
opposed
to
like
what.
Generally
they
do.
Is
it's
elected
within.
G
No
because
you
mentioned
the
second
class
cities
long,
I
know
other
common
councils
they're,
the
president
there's
the
president
and
the
president
pro
tem,
but
the
president
is
usually
like
the
president
pro
10
elected
amongst
the
council.
So
we
just
the
only
difference
we
made
is
that
we
superseded
it
by
making
it
a
city-wide
elective
right.
That's
the
only
difference,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
historical
aspect
of
it.
F
Yeah,
no,
I
think
under
the
under
second
class
cities
law,
the
president
of
the
council
was
always
a
city-wide
separately,
elected
official
and
presiding
officer,
and
so
under
our
charter.
It
continues
that
way.
The
president
pro
tem
is
a
position
in
second
class
cities,
I
believe
or
general
city
law,
but
it's
also
under
our
rules.
I
mean
the
president
pro
tem
is
the
actual
person.
F
That's
council
leadership
that
has
the
authority
operational
authority
over
the
council,
and
it's
really
the
policy
person
much
like
equated
like
lieutenant
governor
presiding
over
the
state
senate
or
the
the
vice
president
of
the
united
states,
being
president
of
the
u.s
senate
as
a
presiding
officer
and
has
no
role
other
than
presiding.
G
H
Well,
all
the
the
second
class
city's
law
doesn't
really
specify
who
the
president
shall
be
as
I'm
reading
it.
So
I
think
the
city
of
albany
didn't
even
supersede
necessarily
it
just
stated
in
its
charter
that
the
president
of
the
common
council
would
be
a
separately
elected
official.
The
second
cities
law
does
actually
provide
for
the
president
pro
tem
as
well
to
serve
sort
of
in
place
of
the
president
when
the
president's
not
available.
H
F
Think
I
also
have
there's
a
case
law
someplace
and
it's
not
off
the
top
of
my
head,
which
also
gets
into
that
issue,
and
I
should
give
that
to
you
guys
before
I
retire
and
leave
that
talks
about
the
actual
authority
of
the
president
versus
yeah.
I.
H
Know
j.r
and
I
had
had
looked
into
this
sort
of
together
at
one
point
on
a
separate
issue,
but
the
point
I'd
actually
raised
my
hand
to
make
was
I
just
wanted
the
council
to
sort
of
consider
how
I
I
think
it's
prudent
to
have
you
know
legal
review
of
ena
actions
and
have
a
lawyer's
voice,
if
not
on
the
board
at
least
available
to
the
board.
So
I
would
just
yeah
urgent
counsel
to
consider
how
that
would
work.
F
I
think,
as
it
works
now,
that
there
any
action
that
the
board
takes
where
it
requires
legal
review.
Corp
council
would
be
attorney
to
anybody
of
the
city,
any
commission
or
body
as
well
as
any
you
know
the
department.
So
I
don't
think
this
diminuti
does
not
diminish
the
corporation
council's
role
in
any
legal
advice
or
other
actions
that
have
to
be
taken.
G
F
H
No,
no,
I
don't
think
so.
Okay.
A
Anyway,
I
feel
like
we
just
witnessed
richard
brett
and
j.r
having
a
good
time.
A
And
could
I
get
a
second
second
all
in
favor.
J
A
F
Great
one
last
thing:
this
was
nothing
personal
against
actually
the
corporation
council
who's,
a
member
or
nothing
personal
against
the
president
of
the
council.
It's
just
you
know.
Whatever.
H
Councilmember
I
was
hoping
to
see
a
at
least
an
mc
resolution
about
naming
the
rotunda.
F
F
I
I
can't
actually
I
was
beginning
to
look
at
that:
it's
not
a
difficult
one
to
define
the
terms
and
then
to
designate
that
recessed
part
of
the
the
lobby
off
the
lobby
or
whatever
as
an
atrium.
A
Thank
you
all
so
very
much
for
the
long
haul
of
the
evening.
It
is
deeply
appreciated.