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Description
The Committee reviewed and discussed Resolutions 70.101.19R and 80.112.19R. Resolution 70.101.19R established the locally-adjusted base proportions of taxable value for the homestead and non-homestead classes regarding the City’s 2019 assessment roll for property taxes payable in January 2020. Resolution 80.112.19R (pursuant to the City Charter the Council must consent to the transfer of funds that effect salary totals which occur outside of the Budget process.
B
A
Already
started:
that's
right,
all
right,
so
I'm
calling
to
order
this
meeting
of
the
finance
taxation
and
assessment
committee
meeting
and
present
our
committee
members
Mike
O'brien,
miss
appears
also
present
is
councilmember
Conte
president
Corey
Ellis
and
elusive
Nami
councilmember
Oh
Nami.
The
purpose
of
today's,
and
also
present
is
our
budget
director
Michael
wheeler,
our
assessor
Trey
Kingston.
We
have
treasurer
Sean
far
in
the
back
and
acting
human
resources,
director
'silly
Gonzalez,
and
we
also
thank
Danielle
Gillespie
for
being
here
as
well.
A
So
the
two
items
for
action
at
this
meeting.
The
goal
is
to
talk
about
these
two
items
and
then
move
on
to
beginning
some
further
discussions
about
bonding,
but
the
the
primary
things
are.
We
have
a
resolution
70.1
a
1.19
are
that
establishes
the
locally
adjusted
base
proportions
for
homestead
and
non
homestead
classes
for
real
property
tax
purposes,
and
then
also
resolution
of
the
Common
Council
consenting
to
an
adjustment
in
the
salary
for
certain
positions
in
the
2020
budget.
A
We're
going
to
start
with
a
resolution
70.1
a
1.19
r,
which
is
about
the
locally
adjusted
based
proportions
for
the
homestead
and
non
homestead
classes.
This
is
something
that
we
have
been
doing
every
year.
We
have
the
authority
to
not
do
the
same
percentage
for
home,
set
and
and
non-heme
said
properties
when
it
comes
to
allocating
the
total
tax
levy,
and
we
have
been
doing
that
for
many
years
in
accordance
with
local
law
passed
in
1998,
and
we
have
before
us
a
resolution
that
does
not
change
the
the
percentage
allocation
from
last
year.
A
E
D
What
we've
chosen
to
do
the
last
several
years,
at
least
since
I've
been
here
just
because
it
it's
been
the
most
effective
way
for
us
to
not
increase
the
rates
for
either
homesteader
hum
or
not.
Homestead
has
go
with
the
zero
percentage
at
every
percentage
up
towards
equalization
at
a
hundred
percent
equalizes
that
rate,
which
means
that
ten
percent
twenty
percent
twenty
five.
You
can
see
that
on
the
second
sheet,
where
I
broke
out
what
those
adjustment
changes
are
half
outside
of
that
0%.
When.
D
Correct
and
so
essentially,
what
happens
is
as
you
as
you
move
as
you
move
towards
100%
the
burden
falls
more
on
homeowners
and
less
on
the
commercial
properties.
So,
as
you
moved
from
zero
to
100,
you
can
see
that
percentage
change
and
that
dollar
change
the
dollar
change
for
homestead
is
per
homes,
valued
at
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand,
and
for
the
commercial,
its
properties
valued
at
five
hundred
thousand.
We.
C
D
We
we
generally
as
much
as
I,
think
in
an
ideal
world.
You
would
like
to
move.
You
would
like
to
move
the
rates
equal.
This
is
what's
the
best
formula
for
us
for
maintaining
flat
rates
and
not
really
increasing
anyone
anyone's
rates
across
the
board.
If
you
look,
if
you
look
at
the
sheet
that
I
sent
with
the
bar
graph
and
the
line
graph,
showing
that
the
rates
over
the
last
several
years,
you'll
see
that
this
option
at
zero
has
really
allowed
us
to
keep
the
rates
flat
for
both
stop
homestead
and
Nam
homestead.
A
D
D
So
we
are
recommending
that
we
stay
at
the
zero
base
because
that's
we
there
is
some
relief
for
homeowners
as
small
as
it
is,
and
a
slight
increase
for
non
homestead.
But
if
you
look
at
the
at
the
at
the
rate,
it
still
keeps
them
pretty
much
everyone,
the
same
rates
that
they
were
at.
This
is
2014
2015.
So
the
intent
here
is
to
incremental
e
increase
our
revenue
with
our
tax
levy,
but
keep
those
rates
flat
is
is
the
goal
of,
and
why
and
why,
we've
been
choosing
this
option.
H
A
H
H
Value
and
taxable
value
if
the
exempt
values
for
each
class
special
franchise
assessed
values
which
would
be
like
my
National
Grid
time-warner
things
of
that
nature,
and
this
is
automatically
generated
from
that
spreadsheet.
So
we
were
given
a
very
rudimentary
excel
excel
sheet,
and
this
is
what
it
generates.
So
it
is,
it
is
I,
don't
want
to
say
done
by
New
York
State,
because
we
are
actually
responsible
for
inputting
these
figures,
but
it
is
given
to
us
essentially
through
that
nature
by
New,
York,
State
and.
A
A
E
C
A
Agreed
with
me
that
they
didn't
have
the
authority
to
do
that,
because
their
boundaries
are
coterminous
with
ours.
The
adjustments
were
only
allowed
for
and
there's
a
lot
of
in
most
school
districts
if
the
they
have
like.
If
you're
in
the
guild
room
school
district,
you
might
be
in
one
of
like
three
or
four
different,
taxing
municipalities
that
have
different
rates,
because
it
because
we
have
one
at
least
that's
my
understanding
of
the
theory.
Behind
that
any
other
questions.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions.
H
Naturally,
that
that
would
occur,
but
the
the
issue
with
that
is
not
all
pilot
agreements
were
entered
into
in
a
in
a
you
know.
Some
fully
come
off.
They
go
from
100
to
0
some
taper
down.
In
the
last
couple
years.
We
haven't
seen
many
expire
I
think
last
year.
The
only
one
that
expired
was
the
address.
F
H
A
H
Was
Jonathan?
The
address
is
slipping
my
mind
with
Jonathan's
pizzeria
owned
by
Michael
or
ago.
That
was
the
only
one
that
I
think
came
off
pilot
this
past
year,
not
a
substantial
increase
to
the
tax
base,
but
you
know
we
don't
see
dramatic
increases,
especially
since
most
do
taper,
so
we'll
see
a
steady,
slight
increase
for
for
several
years
as
they
come
back
on
roll.
The
same
applies
for
the
business
improvement.
G
G
E
D
You
know
what
we
I
I
look
I
still
look
at
this
every
year,
and
you
know
the
mayor.
It
gets
I,
get
for
all
the
all
the
options
and
it's
just
it
I
think
the
goal
is
still
it
still
to
be
open
to
getting
there,
but
the
opportunity
at
this
point
just
hasn't
presented
itself,
especially
with
Lasher,
with
the
trash
becoming
on
the
homeowners
or
what
as
well,
to
put
even
more
of
a
tax
burden
on
them.
D
E
H
I
H
I
I
A
I
A
They
will
pay
eighty
nine
dollars
more
in
taxes,
so
it
depends
upon
what
their
assessment
is
and
whether
or
not
there's
been
any
variation.
There's
some
people
do
improvements
or
have
changes
in
the
uses
that
might
change
the
assessed
value
of
a
particular
property
in
between
full
value
assessments.
A
A
I
I
B
A
A
D
A
Being
here
thanks
Trey,
so
this
is
resolution
80
point
one
one
2.19
are:
that
is
a
basic
resolution
that
which
we
tend
to
pass
each
year
at
the
end
of
the
year.
After
the
passage
of
the
budget,
we're
not
allowed
to
make
salary
adjustments
for
the
most
part,
there's
some
little
variations
in
the
budget.
A
So
this
resolution
is
just
a
blank
resolution
and
then
it
attaches
this
page
as
attachment
a,
and
it
has
a
number
of
adjustments
in
it.
I
have
asked
the
Budget
Office
to
provide
an
attachment
at
the
very
next
page.
Is
the
2020
budget
souring
title
changes,
explanations
justifications
that
goes
through
these
items
and
I
consider
this
to
be
essentially
the
attachment
to
the
sponsoring
resolution.
So
we
actually
have
for
the
record
an
explanation
of
of
what
we
are
doing
so
I
will
just
briefly
go
over
I'm
going
to
have
miss
Gonzalez
go
over
I.
A
Think
Human
Resources
in
a
reorganization
in
a
minute,
because
that's
most
significant
change
here
but
I
will
go
over
some
of
these
other
changes.
The
deputy
this
provides
for
the
deputy
auditor
to
get
a
3%
raise
over
what
he
was
making
me
2019,
that's
being
done
at
the
request
of
the
auditor,
the
and
I
think
it
had
been
requested
as
part
of
the
budget
process.
C
A
And
you
guys,
I,
since
its
put
forth
in
your
documentation,
have
dropped
any
objection
to
that
change.
We
have
there's
also
a
change
for
a
senior
payroll
administrator
to
be
a
payroll
administrator
and
a
senior
payroll
and
then
another
one
for
the
senior
payroll
administrator
to
be
a
principal
payroll.
A
Administrator
and
understanding
of
this
is
that
the
senior
payroll
there
is
an
experienced
senior
payroll
administrator,
but
they'd
like
to
keep
and
compensate
more
so
they're
moving
that
person
up
to
be
a
senior
payroll
administrator
and
at
the
same
time,
since
there's
a
vacancy
in
in
one
of
the
senior
payroll
administrator
positions
that
is
being
decreased
to
be
just
an
entry
level.
Payroll
administrator
position.
I
A
D
A
A
So
does
that
is
everybody
okay
with
what
I
just
talked
about
in
terms
of
these
being
incorporated
into
the
2020
budget
printed
by
the
document
within
making
it
clear
it
was
a
subsequent
adjustment,
I
guess
skip
over
Human
Resources.
Just
briefly
one
note
item
five
or
that
is
included
in
the
attachment.
A
is
simply
a
gary
bonanno
mission
for
one
of
the
clerk
typist
positions
for
1%
increase.
We
are
including
in
here
oh,
and
so
this
is
correcting
that
inadvertent
omission.
A
A
And
then,
on
the
back
of
that
page,
we
have
three
adjustments
for
the
water
fund.
One
is
the
Commissioner.
There
was
an
omission
of
the
1%
increase
that
he
is
entitled
to.
There
is
a
change
in
a
title
for
an
accounting
assistant.
This
was
simply
I,
think
a
typo
to
an
administrative
assistant
position
that
we
identified
when
we
were
looking
at
potentially
adjusting
that
person's
salary
for
2019
the
end
of
2019
also,
but
that
request
has
been
dropped
correctly.
H
A
Technologists
working
for
the
state
and
on
the
Jaguar
County
were
provided
as
comparables
Glassdoor.
They
also
noted
that
Glassdoor
also
has
it
higher.
So
this
is
not
somebody
in
the
position.
They
wanted
to
be
able
to
recruit
a
higher
quality
candidate.
For
that
any
questions
about
that.
All
right
with
that
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
Human
Resources
reorganization,
mr.
A
Gonzales
contacted
me
shortly
after
the
budget
came
out,
and
let
me
know
that
this
was
something
that
they
were
very
interested
in
getting
done
before
the
start
of
the
2020
year
and
I
met
with
them
to
go
over.
What
they
were
looking
at.
This
again
is
something
that
is
budget
neutral.
It
is,
it
does
involve
the
creation
of
a
number
of
civil
service
titles,
with
full
descriptions
that
we've
been
provided
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
why
you
think
this
is
necessary.
Well,.
B
Is
it
that
we're
doing
right
and
what
is
it
that
we're
doing
wrong
and
how
would
effectuate
change
so
to
divide
it
into
two
departments?
One
of
that
just
dealt
with
benefits
of
one
day
just
dealt
with
civil
service
and
no
one
dealt
in
the
big
big
picture
of
human
resource
management,
and
so
we've
been
missing
the
training
piece
that
collection
pieces,
those
types
of
things
and
so
I've
decided.
You
know
we
decided
as
a
staff
that
the
best
way
to
address
this
is
to
make
everyone
too
generous.
In
other
words,
everyone.
B
Your
jobs
will
have
experts
in
each
targeted
area,
whether
it's
benefits
or
training
or
outreach
or
recruitment,
because
all
those
pieces
fall
under
the
rubric
of
HR
management.
So
we
took
the
old
silos
that
for
making
everyone
general
this,
we
developed
our
title
series
in
relationship
to
the
state
of
New
York,
which
may
offer
not
that
I
want
to
lose
my
staff,
but
it
will
give
them
more
of
an
opportunity
as
a
charge.
B
B
And
three
the
career
letter
I'm
looking
at
that
across
the
board,
because
we
just
can't
have
nowhere
to
grow.
You
know
we
have
entry
people,
we
bring
them
in,
we
train
them
and
then
they
can
go
on
to
the
next
level
and
it
gives
us
a
large
evety
consistency
and
lets
people
stay
with
us
a
bit
longer,
instead
of
jumping
around
and
trying
to
find
out
the
decisions
so
that
that's
the
goal.
B
F
B
B
C
B
Collection
data
data
analysis,
I
mean
we
monitor
how
many
people
are
gonna
retire,
the
next
20
years.
What
does
that
mean
to
our
workforce?
You
know:
how
is
that
going
to
impact
us
when
we
bring
people
in
as
we
see
so
many
people
leaving?
So
all
those
functions
fall
under
human
resource
management,
umbrella,
I.
C
G
D
Here's
an
and
we
can
and
here's-
and
this
is
really
what
we've
been
looking
for-
our
HR
department
to
do
since
I've
been
here
really
is,
is,
is
because
we've
really
encouraged
the
departments
to
look
at
creating
steps
and
ladders
within
their
organizations,
but
I
feel
like
that.
Really
had
it
really
the
stick
and
move
it
had
to
be
driven
out
of
HR,
and
we
just
never
had
the
organization
properly
set
up
there
to
make
that
happen.
D
I
think
this
is
really
a
big
step
towards
us,
moving
towards
all
in
all
those
non-union
positions
where
we
can
set
up
grades
and
we
can
set
up
career
ladders
and
we
can
create
opportunities
for
people
that
historically
have
not
had
it.
So
I
think
this
is
really
as
it
may
seem
simple
to
many,
but
this
is
for
us
as
groundbreaking,
and
it
is,
it
is
going
to
be
a
catalyst
towards
moving
where
we
need
to
go
as
an
organization
take.
A
C
C
F
A
B
And
the
management
team
to
move
this
agenda
forward
to
create
a
new,
a
charm
vision
for
the
city
of
Albany
Hammond
I
live
here.
I
raised
my
family
here.
This
place
is
very
important
to
me
and
here's
an
opportunity
for
me
to
do
something
good,
that
I
feel
good
about,
and
it
snaps
and
I
see
changed
comments
to
Russell
and
I,
see
more
people
coming
and
talking
to
us
about
what
we
could
help
them
with
which.
B
B
B
We
didn't
have
something
that
we
just
started
a
policy
and
procedures.
You
know
part
of
codifying
what
an
HR
department
is
that
makes
us
consistent
throughout
the
city.
If
everyone
is
doing
process
differently,
it
creates
havoc
for
us
and
it
delays,
hiring
posting
recruiting
every
aspect
of
what
we
do.
B
So
it's
all
being
done
like
that,
with
this
little
army
that
I
have
a
very
diligent
workers
and
they're
excited
about
learning
different
things.
Sometimes
you
just
have
to
show
an
opportunity
and
people
can
can
go
to
it.
You
see
it
stuck
in
a
different
model
over
the
years
here,
five
years
six
years,
you
get
wedded
to
a
normal
behavior,
that's
not
really
good
or
normal.
It's
just
what
I
accept
it
to.
B
Good
we
have
to.
We
have
our
staff
pretty
much
they're,
not
all
people
like
me,
they're
young
Millennials.
They
want
to
grow
in
their
positions.
They
may
leave
us
something.
I'd
be
not
be
that
happy,
because
then
they
can
say
to
people.
Here's
a
place
to
go
work.
If
you
want
to
start
out
that
could
be
wonderful
for
the
city
of
Albany
to
say
that
should
be.
A
B
A
A
B
You
know
sometimes
we
get
into
a
situation
where
we
create
technology
is
gonna,
resolve
our
problems.
We
went
to
ego
and
said
how
great
is
ego.
Does
everything
it's
a
portal
magic
Elizabeth?
Well,
the
year
before
we
did
eat
up,
we've
received
a
thousand
applications
for
jobs.
The
year
we
instituted
ego,
we
received
8,000,
who.
C
I
B
600
people
passed
the
exam
we
were
in
the
process.
We
just
received
a
list
last
week.
Now
we
have
to
verify
all
the
scores
on
the
list.
That
list
then
goes
to
Civil
Service
Commission
and
a
special
meeting
that
we're
going
to
move
quickly
on
this,
because
we
want
to
fill
these
positions
so
we're
going
to
hold
an
early
January
meeting
to
verify,
approve
the
list,
and
then
we
begin
the
canvass.
I
remember.
D
What
the
police
department
update
to
that
as
well,
we
should
everything
should
be.
Everything
should
be
satisfied
and
formalized
with
the
lease
for
the
new
building
for
the
new
for
the
new
history
Frank
facility.
The
renovations
should
be
starting
hopefully
this
month
by
the
end
of
the
month,
and
we
should
be
ready
to
train
a
class
between
40
and
60,
looks
like
March
or
April.
I
A
C
B
C
B
We
could
utilize
community
centers
and
their
gyms.
It's
opened
it
up
and
have
more
people
yep
practice.
How
does
it
thank
you
for
being
here?
The
fire
department
thanks
Mike
the
fire
department
that
did
their
feedback,
their
training,
your
pass,
their
physical
and
they
couldn't
get
past
the
stairwell.
The
stairs.
C
J
C
B
That's
what
we
plan
on
doing
big
data
data
analysis.
It's
critical
little,
an
HR
departments.
Everything
we
plan
for
has
to
be
a
metric
measurement.
If
I
could
tell
you
that
yesterday
we
did
a
hundred
transaction
on
buyouts
for
health
benefits,
or
we
had
to
reassess
1,400,
ma'am,
1,400
retirees
and
we
have
to
afford
them
with
changes
all
those
processes.
We
need
to
collect
that
at
how
many
people
actually
signed
up.
How
many
people
did
we
meet
in
recruitment?
B
You
know
if
I
go
to
five
recruitment
fairs
and
we
do
this
all
the
time
we
don't
recruit.
Mid-Face.
Okay,
we
went
to
the
recruitment
fair,
we
said.
Oh,
we
spent
all
this
money.
How
many
people
did
you
actually
do?
Well,
three.
Three
people
I
saw
three
people
in
two
hours:
it's
not
effective.
So
how
did
we
reduce
it?
That
a
new
social
media
and
other
technological
I
just
go
into
a
high
school
I
mean
we
should
have
absolute
training
in
high
school?
That
should
be
it.
We
start
too
late.
C
B
B
A
You
guys
can
set
up
a
meeting
to
talk
to
see.
The
purpose
of
this
is
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
approve
the
resolution
for
the
salary
adjustments.
It's
it's
it.
We
appreciate
so
much
what
you
are
doing,
and
obviously
people
are
very
excited
about
it
and
and
eager
to
see
us
being
more
successful
in
ours.
A
F
C
A
A
If
we
approve
the
entire
request,
and
last
year,
I
noted
that
we
are
looking
down
the
road,
especially
with
regard
to
in
2025,
through
2030,
of
having
very
high
debt
service
payments
accumulating
over
time.
If
we
stick
to
the
schedule
that
we've
been
on
last
year,
that
discussion
resulted
in
us
reducing
bonding
ordinance
approvals
by
2.5
million
dollars.
I've,
provided
you
with
a
chart
using
to
some
extent
the
assumptions
that
mr.
Shankar
has
provided
us
with.
You
want
this.
A
A
A
This
is
whenever
we're
looking
at
our
debt
policy
and
the
debt
service,
we
always
removed
the
the
bond
payments
for
the
landfill
so
because
it
makes
money
and-
and
so
then
the
fourth
column
over
one,
two
three
four,
the
fourth
column
of
dollar
announced-
is
the
would
be
the
net
anticipated
bonding
with
a
landfill.
The
next
column
is
makes
the
assumption
that,
if
we
were
to
find
the
twenty
six
point,
1
million
dollars
that
is
currently
requested
this
year,
that
we
bond.
A
And
do
that
over
a
10-year
period
and
I
eat
and
I
used
a
ten
year
period
personally,
because
that
is
what
we
tend
to
do
have
as
a
maximum
maturity
for
most
of
our
bonding,
especially
once
we
have
like
a
year
or
two,
a
banning
or
et
cetera,
and
two
percent
interest
rate
is
used
there
and
what
I
have
done.
There
is
because
we
have
about
eight
million
dollars
worth
of
projects
this
year,
that
eight
million
dollar
no.
C
A
Have
projects
for
which
about
eight
million
dollars
of
it
is
reimbursable
and
I
have
gotten
information
from
talking
to
treasurer's
and
city
managers
elsewhere
that
when
they're
implementing
DRI
or
the
tips,
that
is
off
in
three
years
before
you
get
payment.
So
for
the
first
three
years
it
is
the
full
amount
and
then,
after
that,
it
drops
out
eight
million
dollars
and
continues
on
with
the
assumption
that
we
have
a
the
tenure
continuing
with
the
tenure
pay
down.
A
Four,
that's
based
on
an
assumption
that
the
budget
will
go
up
by
about
0.5%
per
year,
which
is
conservative,
but
that
is
kind
of
like
where
we
have
been
at
up
until
now.
So
we
can
assume
that'll
go
up.
You
know!
Maybe
you
can
Jacob
play
with
that
number.
If
we
were
to
go
up
by
one
percent
per
year,
it's
really
not
going
to
make
that
much
of
a
difference
when
you're.
A
Looking
at
the
fact
that
from
2025
through
twenty
thirty
one
we're
going
to
be
two
to
three
million
dollars
over
the
likely
debts
or
policy
limits,
I
want
to
note
that
I
played
with
this
to
look
at
well.
What
happens
if
we
put
in
inserted
in
there,
then
12-year
pay
downs
on
it.
What
happens
is
you
then,
wind
up
with
a
year
or
two
at
the
upper
end
of
the
chart,
maybe
coming
within
there
being
close
to
being
debt
within
the
debt
service
limits?
But
then
what
happens?
A
Wanted
this
is
this
is
I
mean
when
I
obsess
about
gosh
26
million
dollars
in
borrowing
or
even
the
17,
even
if
we
were
to
count
just
for
that
which,
for
which,
after
reimbursement,
when
I,
think
about
that
being
a
lot
of
money,
this
is
how
I
work,
the
numbers,
you
know,
I,
don't
just
approximate
eventually
I
need
to
say.
Is
it
you
know
something
real
or
is
you
know
if
I
work,
the
numbers
or
is
it?
A
You
know
something
that
we
can
probably
get
by
on
I
want
I
want
to
note
for
people
something
very
interesting
about
what
is
going
to
happen
next
year.
Also
that
if
you
look
at
our
current
up
on
the
left
hand,
side
under
2020
the
second
column
over,
we
have
twenty
three
point:
six
million
dollars
worth
of
debt
service
in
2020,
and
if
you
look
at
the
column
three
over
in
after
landfill,
it's
at
nineteen
point
O,
nine,
five,
with
the
full
borrowing.
A
That
subtracts
about
a
million
dollars
for
landfills,
but
bottom
line
is
we're
looking
at
it
out.
We've
gone
up
quite
a
bit
about
four
point:
five
million
dollars
this
one
year
in
2020
and
next
year
we
will
be
dropping
by
about
four
million
dollars
which
gives
us
I
want
to
say
more
potential.
Flexibility
in
our
budget.
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
things
I'm
very
aware
of
is
in
2020.
We
are
negotiating
contracts
and
that
will
impact
both
20
are
likely
to
impact
both
2020
and
2021.
A
By
my
rough
calculations
were
probably
looking
at
about
two
and
a
half
to
three
million
dollars
by
2021
being
embedded
in
the
budget,
and
that
would
include
some
amount
of
increase
for
APD.
It
does
not
include
the
retroactive
which
Mike
wheeler
has
basically
said
he's
anticipating
that,
to
the
extent
we
wind
up
having
to
pay
retroactive
in
any
APD
contract
that
we
will
likely
have
to
take
that
out
of
our
unappropriated
fund
balance,
so
we're
looking
at
a
9
point:
1
million
dollar
appropriated
fund
balance.
A
F
A
G
A
So,
while
that's
a
nice
amount
of
a
drop,
that
is
something
to
be
talked
about
in
terms
of
can
we
move
some
things
to
the
operating
side,
which
then
helps
with
our
debt
policy
issues,
not
only
now
for
this
year,
but
in
the
future,
when
we're
looking
at
this
column
over
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
one
of
those
that
I
think
is
a
huge
candidate
for
us
to
look
at
doing
that
with
again.
Is
the
police
vehicles.
I
will
tell
you
that
I
mean
I,
have
the
article
from
the
Troy.
A
You
know
from
the
Albany
Times
Union
talking
about
Troy
and
the
OSC
counseling
them
that
they
shouldn't
be
bonding
for
that
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
Watertown
city
manager,
who
has
experience
in
a
lot
of
different
places
and
in
the
course,
and
because
we
were
talking
about
their
capital
plan,
Richard
point
out
that
there
and
I
wanted
to
ask
them
some
questions
about
how
they
do
capital
planning
and
when
I
mentioned
that
we
do
APD
vehicles
in
our
budget.
He's
like
I'm,
shocked
that
the
auditors
haven't.
A
You
know,
excited
you
guys,
you
know
for
for
that,
and
because
it
is
here's
the
thing
with
the
vehicles,
yeah
borrow,
let's
say
a
million
dollars
this
year.
You
borrow
another
million
dollars
next
year.
If
I
owe
you
another
million
dollars
the
next
year
and
you
keep
on
borrowing
a
million
dollars
all
you're
achieving
is
really
aside
from
getting
over
the
initial
hump
of
how
do
you
get
to
the
cash
value?
A
All
you're
doing
is
you're
paying
money
and
interest
for
that
for
for
that,
because
whether
you're
paying
debt
service
out
of
your
operating
budget
or
whether
you're
paying
for
those
cars
directly,
it's
a
million
dollars
the
difference
being
debt
services,
a
million
dollars
plus,
is
that
2
percent
or
3
percent,
and
in
so
that
is.
That
is
something
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
I
have
also
provided
on
this
document.
An
explanation
of.
Why
do
we
need
to
do
better
planning?
A
C
A
A
And
then
there
are
members
and
want
to
mention
to
people
who
want
to
mention
to
people.
There's
13
million
dollars
worth
of
bonding
authorizations
that
have
not
yet
been
borrowed
on
and
I
did
include
in
this
chart
that
I
provided
you
with
an
assumption
that
7.3
million
dollars
of
that
will
actually
be
borrowed
against.
There
are
things
like
the
streetlights
3.3
million
dollars
that
I
have
not
included
because
I
don't
think
it's
likely,
but
I
felt
like
we
need
to
account
for
that
money
in
some
way.
A
So
this
is
about
half
of
what
has
been
authorized.
It
includes
things
like.
We
know
that
streets
to
two
million
dollars
of
that
is
for
Street
reconstruction,
which
we've
asked
Randy
to
go
ahead
and
utilize
this
year,
there's
money
in
there
for
there's
a
million
dollars
for
that
is
unborrowed
for
buildings
and
basically
we're
looking
at
the
building
request
this
year
in
going
1.3
nine
million.
You
have
one
point:
six
million
sitting
in
accounts
if
you
use
that
prior
authorization
on
it,
so
I
have
included.
So
that's
at
least
three
million
dollars
right
there.
A
A
F
A
We
have
what-
and
my
goal
here
now
is
just
to
give
people
lay
this
out
for
people.
So
you
have
something
to
think
about
before
we're
meeting
to
actually
talk
about
off
the
bonding,
but
I
also
want
to
see
if
there
are
specific
questions
that
people
have,
they
want
us
to
go
back
to
the
departments
and
ask
questions
on
so
that
we
are
prepared
for
potentially
making
some
decisions
on
the
19th.
So
the
cover
sheet
is
now
my
trying
to
consolidate
in
one
place
where
we
are
at.
A
They
have
now
provided
us
with
a
very
clear
schedule
of
replacement
and
need
that
we've
been
following
along
with
the
last
two
to
three
years
and
I.
Think
people
felt
as
though
it's
appropriate
to
go
ahead
and
and
bond
the
1.35
million
that
has
been
asked
there.
We
did
think
that
the
city
buildings
was
justified
for
a
half-million
dollars
and
noting
that
there
was
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
accounts
existing
that
they
could
use
for
that.
F
A
No,
no,
this
is
no.
This
was
oh
no,
this
is
this,
was
their
fire?
Has
us
with
HVAC?
Their
fire
has
is
with
window
replacements,
so
there
were,
there
were
other
requests.
Apd
had
a
separate
request
for
$300,000
that
they
didn't
really
provide
us
with
a
lot
of
information
on.
We
asked
them
to
get
together
with
engineering
and
get
back
to
us
and
provide
us
with
further
justification.
On
and
frankly,
we
haven't.
Apd
has
been
lacking
in
justification
for,
and
details
on,
all
of
its
barking
borrowing.
A
A
A
Brandy
noted
that
brandy
noted
that,
from
a
prior
from
one
of
those
bonds
from
a
prior
years
request,
two
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
dollars
was
allocated
to
APD's
expressly
so
even
deducting
that,
from
the
one
point,
six
seven
million
dollars
that's
available
in
the
bonding
accounts,
along
with
what
has
not
yet
been
borrowed,
even
subtracting
for
that
he
would
still
have
more
than
the
one
point
four
million
dollars
left
for
him
to
do.
What
he's
requesting
this
year
and
again,
you
know
when
we're
looking
at
where.
A
Bonding
in
line
with
our
debt
policy,
that
seems
to
me
to
be
inappropriate.
I'm
not
asking
for
us
to
make
a
decision
just
mentioning
that
APD
IT
infrastructure
was
also
something
that
we
agreed
to
last
year.
They
justified
and
agreed.
It's
really
antiquated
system
that
they're
looking
to
replace
completely
and
we
kind
of
gave
them
the
green
light,
and
we
can't
really
stop
funding
midstream
on
that.
A
They
will
be
getting
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
reimbursement
on
a
project
that
I
think
is
about
2.8
million
dollars
that
we're
paying
for
over
five
years
of
four
years.
So
the
council
felt
like
we
should
go
ahead
and
go
forward
with
that,
and
then
the
remaining
bonds
were
ones
that
we
held
for
consideration,
wrote
roadway.
Striping
was
one
that
we're
looking
at
potential
reduction,
because
the
Maria
college
may
be
contributing
DGS
vehicles.
A
A
E
E
A
So
I
know
that
we
did
get
confirmation
from
mr.
Milano
as
a
result
of
our
discussions
that
probe
ridges,
the
$500,000
requested
is
not
needed
in
2020,
and
we
had,
as
a
committee
kind
of
been
inclined
to
eliminate
the
$300,000
request
by
APD
for
the
building
improvements
at
this
time.
Some
of
what
they
are
asking
for
again
seems
like
it
should
be
funded
on
a
out
of
an
operating
budget,
because
it
is
a
little
bit
more
maintenance
kind
of
cost.
A
A
A
G
Promote
just
so
everybody's
aware,
usually
reimbursable
projects.
We
tend
to
do
short
term
borrowing,
the
banning
of
those
in
anticipation
of
getting
reimbursed
and
then
not
actually
bonding
just
so
it
was
aware
of
that's
that
gentlemen
process
work.
There
are
times,
however,
we
do
have
to
borrow
money
up
front
and
we'll
go
into
a
bond
to
do
that
as
opposed
to
a
band,
but
most
of
the
time
is
usually
most
of
the
projects
here,
especially
the
shorter
term
lives
are
really
going
to
be
your
hands
and
that's
going
to
be
it
we're
done.
A
H
B
A
I'm
using
a
ten-year
pay
down
because
we
have
things
like
the
police
vehicles
that
are
a
three-year
pay
down,
and
then
we
have
something
like
the
Tivoli
improvements
would
probably
potentially
be
arguably
a
fifteen
to
twenty
year
20
year,
PP
you,
but
you
usually
don't
bond
more
than
fifteen
years.
Maybe
twelve
you
know
at
the
real
outside,
which
is
why
I'm
using
a
pay
down
of
ten
years
is.
Is
that
seem
like.
A
A
Brown
something
brownfield
cleanup
like,
like
figuring
out
appropriate
alternative
uses.
This
is
this
is
a
study
of
both
this
and
the
Hudson
River
waterfront
gateway.
Now
Chris
did
a
great
job,
not
during
our
budget
presentation,
but
subsequently
sending
us
a
description
of
each
one
of
these
projects
on
like
one
sheet
kind
of
like
what
Watertown
does
for
its
capital
budget
and
it
talks
about
in
each
case,
here's
what
the
total
cost
is.
Here's,
what
the
reimbursement
is,
here's
what
our
share
is
and
here's
what
this
project
is
about
kind
of
thing.
A
So
for
this
one,
and
also
the
Hudson
River
waterfront
gateway.
These
are
these
are
both
like
planning,
predominantly
planning
exercises.
They
don't
result
in
those
brownfields
actually
being
cleaned
up.
They
result
in
a
plan
for
what
we
might
do
with
something
it's
kind
of
like.
What
might
you
do
with
that
lovely
warehouse
building?
You.
C
A
Have
other
properties
along
the
waterfront
in
the
waterfront
area,
in
the
downtown
corridor,
which
are
potentially
problematic
and
I?
Think
some
of
this
might
include
some
of
the
stuff
in
the
South
End,
as
well
as
in
the
north
of
Albany
area,
and
maybe
some
along
Broadway,
etc.
I
think
some
some
might
be
a
long
wait
whatever
huck
finn's
is
on.
A
So
so
so
the
question
is:
does
anybody
have
any
so
we
basically
don't
have
questions
on
the
ones
that
are
100%?
Is
there
other
information
that
people
want
for
the
other
ones
and
again
we
already
have
some
information.
The
question
is,
you
know.
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
my
questions
about
Maiden
Lane-
and
this
is
a
project
that
it's
only
51%,
reimbursable
and
I.
E
I
G
F
A
South
end
connector
trail
50%,
so
my
understanding
is
that
all
the
prior
funding
has
taken
care
of
the
construction
of
the
path
itself
and
I
believe
that
that
was
supposed
to
be
completed
in
the
fall,
but
I
don't
know,
and
that
this
is
for
additional
MSA
amenities.
But
the
thought
occurred
to
me.
Didn't
the
county
cover
a
lot
of
the
cost
for
the
rail
trail.
C
H
I
I
A
A
C
C
A
But
I
took
another
step
back
and
I'm
like
okay,
but
basically
what
he
was
saying,
I'm
realizing-
and
this
was
as
I'm
looking
at
this
situation
over
the
the
weekend-
and
you
know
struggling
with
it
bottom
line-
is
we're
we're
sopressa
dn't
for
a
municipality,
maintaining
improving
and
maintaining
state
property.
But
the
agreement
is
what
he's
talking
about
in
terms
of
an
agreement
is
actually
having.
A
F
I
A
Okay,
so
so
back
to
this
chart
essentially
to
bring
us
within
debt
policy
limits
for
the
potential
impact
of
our
current
borrowing
on
the
2021
budget.
We're
looking
at
probably
having
to
do
8.5
million
dollars
worth
of
cuts,
because
you
need
to
bring
it
down
by
about
850
thousand
dollars
and,
as
Darius
has
said,
it's
basically
for
every
hundred
thousand
for
every
million
dollars
are
basically
paying
a
hundred
thousand
I.
C
C
G
G
A
Where,
if
we,
if
we
want
to
keep
to
that
10%,
which
is
generally
what
most
municipalities
have
adopted
in
most
municipalities,
have
you
talked
to
them?
Yes,
most
many
municipalities
look
to
not
constantly
be
up
against
that
10%,
but
to
be
below
it,
because
you
want
to
be
able
to
have
borrowing
for
emergencies.
What
is
not
in
the
five
year
plan
right
now
are
things
like
$850,000
for
upper
New,
Scotland
reconfiguration.
That
was
just
essentially
decided.
That
is
the
appropriate
way
to
deal
with
the
traffic
issues
there.
A
It
doesn't
include
anything
additional
for
Lincoln
Park
master
plan,
which
you
don't
want
loved
some
of
the
stuff
that
was
in
that
master
plan
to
actually
make
that
an
attractive
functioning
part,
but
there's
nothing
in
there
for
that
and
an
even
assuming
we
get
grants
again,
we're
probably
looking
at
being.
You
know
having
to
chip
in
something
for
that.
So
it
only
has
this
one
piece,
but
the
five-year
plan
has
nothing
more
on
that.
There's
discussions
about
the
fact
that
we
need
to
build
a
courthouse,
replace
the
current
courthouse.
A
That's
been
going
on
for
a
number
of
years
in
this
debt
scheduled
period
time
period.
I
would
fully
expect
that
we're
going
to
be
essentially
told
we
need
to
bite
the
bullet
again.
We
can
probably
argue
the
state
needs
to
help
us
out.
The
general
policy
is
that
we
build
it,
they
staff
it
and
you
know
they
put
paper,
police
officers,
etc.
There's
no
money
in
this
for
significant
settlements
of
lawsuits
and
I
think
that
realistically,
we
have
to
anticipate
that
there's
gonna
be
those
that
kind
of
thing.
B
F
A
We
could
make
an
argument
when
dgs
is
buying
new
vehicles,
it's
cutting
down
on
its
maintenance
costs
and
and
and
I
think
I
think
that
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
slippery
slope.
The
other
thing
is
here's.
The
thing
is
it's
the
reason
why
you
want
to
limit
your
debt
policy
is
because
it
is
an
inflexible,
absolute
obligation
that
you
have
there's
a
municipality.
So
what
has
happened
here
is
we
have
taken
an
obligation
that
we've
had
of
four
million
dollars
for
street
lighting,
that
was
in
the
operating
budget
side
and
we've
moved
about
I.
H
A
To
the
debt
policy
side,
it
was
four
million
fixed
here.
Two
point:
three
is
fixed
over
here,
along
with
some
maintenance
costs
and
ongoing
electricity
costs
over
here.
So
the
impact
on
you
know.
So
what
has
been
suggested
is
the
fall
two
point:
three
million
dollars
should
be
deducted
from
debt
policy
that
doesn't
make
sense,
because
you
still
have
it's
an
obligation
that
has
gone
from
the
operating
side
to
this
side.
A
Well,
so
there's
so
there's
something
like
if
you
move
the
police
vehicles
to
the
operating
side,
you
are
not
cutting
out
the
purchase
of
the
police
vehicles
this
year,
you
fund
it
potentially
out
of
the
question
okay.
If
we're
can
we,
since
we
have
at
the
end
of
this
year,
we
will
have
more
money
left
to
debt
reserve?
Can
we
use
more
debt
reserve
to
help
pay
for
service
debt
service,
which
then
frees
up?
Yes,
maybe
another,
eight
hundred
thousand
nine
hundred
thousand
to
pay
for
the
patrol
cars
and
unmarked
vehicles,
cash,
2020
and
then.
G
G
A
G
A
C
A
G
A
A
So
there
is
miss.
Fei
is
point
out
to
me
that
that
our
increasing
unappropriated
fund
balance
is
an
argument
against
us
getting
the
full
amount
of
the
capital
city
funding
when
we
are
looking
at
continuing
to
borrow,
in
my
opinion,
in
excess
of
what
we
should
be
borrowing
looking
at
future
generations.
A
It
helps
us
with
our
debt
service
overall,
and
it
doesn't
change
that
much
in
the
budget
other
than
we're
getting
rid
of
interest.
You
know,
which
is
a
prudent
thing
to
do,
and
also
getting
rid
of
frankly,
the
issue
of
most
people,
agreeing
that
were
bonding
for
something
that
we
really
shouldn't
be
bonding
as
a
as
a
promise
I
say,
most
people
I
mean.
Certainly
the
OSC
is
of
that
opinion
that
that
it's
most
prudent,
four,
four,
four
and
and
other
people
I'm
talking
to
you
in
other
municipalities.
If.
G
G
The
other
one
I
thought
was
that
you
can
be
managed
ended
today
on
Monday
you'll
also
have
the
levees
in
front
of
you
to
go
down
through
30
levees
will
notice
that
these
collection
fees
by
Monday
for
next
year,
and
that's
because
we
are
not
elected
not
to
to
read
levy
the
waste
collection
fees
for
next
year,
because
we
still
have
4,000
outstanding
payments
that
have
not
been
made,
and
we
have
this
whole
process
has
been
quite
much
more
onerous.
I
think
my
perspective.
G
I
can
explain
the
reasons
why
I
think
that
we
still
have
worth
out
living
lungi
builds.
You
only
have
2000
unpaid
property
taxes,
so
it's
a
little
bit
in
Congress
I
think,
but
it's
going
to
provide
us
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
we
are
giving
everyone
an
opportunity,
painter
waste
collection
fee
from
2019.
Before
we
live
another
20,
we
will
also
go
for
2020
schedule
and
this
year
I
think
it's
going
to
be
much
easier.
No,
so.
G
It's
gonna
ring
CLE.
It
will
relieve
a
lot
of
headaches
for
you
because
you're
the
ones
thinking
of
the
calls
when
people
have
their
their
waste
collection.
If
you
rely,
they
got
to
their
bill.
I
had
a
I
had
an
exemption
never
should
have
been
on
here,
and
you
know
this
isn't
mine
and
you
never
see
me
the
bill
and
blah
blah
blah.
There's
a
whole
lot
of
reasons.