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The Committee discussed the budget and the possible vote on recommendations. The Committee also reviewed Resolution 96.102.20R through 100.102.20R
B
And
council,
member
kathy
fahey,
we're
also
joined
by
our
incredible
staff,
michelle
andre
danielle,
gillespie
and
john
rafael
ricciardo.
I
believe
that
we
will
be
joined
by
the
some
budget.
People
and
I,
and
also
as
council
members,
come
on
we'll
announce
them
at
this
stage.
We
do
need
to
I
it.
B
Ideally,
we
would
pass
some
of
these
resolutions
out
of
the
committee,
so
we
will
need
some
more
committee
members,
although
I
guess
we
have
a
quorum
because
there's
three
of
us,
so
in
any
case
we
can
keep
moving
forward
with
that.
I
also
wanted
to
discuss
the
budget
intent
memo
and
a
bit
more
depth
to
make
sure
that
we
were
covering
the
different
areas
that
we
felt
needed
covered,
so
we
could
get
that
that
has
to
be
introduced
in
order
for
us
to
pass
it.
B
Why
don't
we
begin
with
the
budget
intent
resolution
and
what
I
would
love
to
do
is
to
just
if
there's,
if
anyone
has-
and
this
is
something
any
members,
I
didn't
get
any
feedback
from
any
members
yet
on
it.
Go
ahead
mike.
C
Yeah,
I
didn't
submit
anything
in
writing,
but
I
had
a
couple
of
ideas.
First,
one
starts
with
a
question.
I
know
we
made
some
recommendations
like
for
improvements
to
the
sporting
fields,
and
some
of
that
may
have
been
done.
It
might
be
nice
to
recognize
what
in
the
resolution
has
been
addressed
and,
for
example,
senior
services.
C
Result
of
jonathan's
interest
in
doing
so,
but
I'd
like
to
kind
of
build
on
that
I
mean
it's.
A
great
beginning
hasn't
happened
yet,
but
I'm
confident
it
will,
and
I
know
that
because
of
covid
and
some
other
reasons
it's
only
starting
in
one
location.
C
So
I
mean
maybe
we
could
acknowledge
what
has
been
done
and
maybe
say
we
are
hopeful
that
the
department
of
recreation
that
has
come
forward
with
senior
programming
can
expand
this
to
other
parts
of
the
city.
Something
like
that.
I.
D
C
Elks
club
never
really
got
back
to
jonathan,
so
there's
reasons
for
it,
but
I
you
know
and
there's
reasons
for
it,
beginning
small
and
small.
So
we
should
acknowledge
it.
But
still
put
you
know
the
request
in
and
then
whatever
other
things
that
they
had,
that
we
did
put
as
a
priority
I
and
that
they
might
have
done
something
on.
I
would
acknowledge,
and
maybe
if
it's
not
if
they.
C
All
but
just
make
a
general
point
of
that,
and
then
I
would
think
the
other
thing
which
came
up-
and
I
think
it
was
last
night's
just
thought.
No
two
nights
ago,
discussion
judy
and
richard
brought
it
up
was
that
there
was
the
cost
of
doing
the
the
financial
audit.
The
independent
audit
is
in
a
line,
that's
been
bouncing
back
and
forth
between
the
audit
department
and
the
treasurer's
office,
and
maybe
that
should
be
more
clearly
identified,
what
its
purpose
is
and
where
it
belongs.
So.
B
Okay,
great
and
I'm
sorry
mike
that
last
piece,
I
do
you
mind
mentioning
that
again
quickly.
C
C
C
B
That's
great,
thank
you
mike
richard.
You
had
your
hand
up
and
before
I
before
you
speak.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
just
want
to
note
that
committee
member
judy
desha
is
here
and
council
member
sonny
frederick,
is
here
as
well.
Go
ahead.
Richard.
D
Yep
thanks
and
just
from
the
profession
a
lot
of
money.
I
think
it
belongs
in
the
treasurer's
office
I
think
going
back
to
when
we
eliminated
the
comptroller
and
shifted
some
things
around.
That
money
should
have
been
moved
at
that
point,
but
it
wasn't
so
it's
really
the
treasurer
who
has
the
responsibility
for
that
particular
audit,
which
that
money
funds,
and
so
it
really
belongs
there,
but
I'm
going
just.
D
I
haven't
nothing
comprehensive,
but
in
terms
of
one
of
the
issues
I'm
really
concerned
about
with
the
budget
is
us
having
a
handle
on
revenue
and
expenses,
because
I
don't
think
you
know,
I
think
we
all
have
concerns
about
how
realistic
some
of
these
items
are
again
not
knowing
what's
happening
on
the
federal
level
and
the
state
the
governor
has
been
holding
off
on
making
his
decisions
on
budget
reductions
to
accommodate.
D
You
know
revenue
losses,
so
I
think
at
some
point
we
had
talked
about
getting
monthly
reports
from
probably
from
the
budget
director
in
terms
of
what
is
happening
as
far
as
a
monthly
revenue
and
expenditure
report
and
where
it
is,
as
far
as
on
target
off
target
with
what
the
adopted
budget
was,
so
that
we
have
an
idea
as
to
financially
as
we're
moving
forward
where
we
are,
and
we
have
an
understanding
of
what
adjustments
need
to
be
made
moving
forward
and
those
monthly
reports
should
also
indicate
any
actions
that
have
been
taken
with
regard
to.
D
You
know
whether
it's
expenditure
freezes,
hiring
freezes
or
whatever
actions
that
have
been
taken
to
accommodate
some
of
the
changes
in
the
in
in
the
adopted
budget,
and
it
probably
makes
sense-
and
maybe
this
is
a
charter
amendment
for
later-
and
I
think
there
are
some
charter
amendments
we
should
look
at
as
far
as
budget
that
are
not
going
to
be
necessary.
Part
of
this
resolution,
but
as
the
state
as
dob
does
a
mid-year
budget
report
budgeted.
D
You
know
report
in
terms
of
where
they
are
mid-year
with
the
adopted
budget
and
what
their
forecast
is.
Maybe
we
should
get
you
know,
require
and
make
your
budget
report.
That's
not.
You
know
a
more
comprehensive
analysis
similar
to
what's
done
in
the
state
level,
but
I
think
we
need
to
get
those
you
know
not
have
those
monthly
reports
of
some
sort
so
that
we
can
keep
track
of
where
we
stand.
B
That's
a
really
good
idea.
I
think
that
many
council
members,
myself
included,
are
very
concerned
about
what
the
budget
year
is
going
to
look
like,
because
we
don't.
I
mean
we're
going
into
this,
not
knowing
at
all.
As
you
said,
what
the
revenues
are.
D
B
Go
ahead
judy-
and
I
also
I
just
want
to
judy
before
you
speak
well,
kelly
councilmember,
kelly
kimbrough
is
here,
but
I
also
judy
I
really
wanted
to
thank
you.
Judy
has
been
kind
of
holding
my
hand
through
this
whole
process
and
guiding
me
through
it,
and
I
just
I
very
much
appreciate
the
work
that
you
continue
to
put
in
and
thank
you
so
much
go
ahead.
E
So
I
I
apologize,
I
keep
on
losing
track
of
where
the
email
is
for
when
I'm,
where
I'm
supposed
to
sign
in,
and
so
I
keep
on.
I
should
know
to
start
looking
for
that.
10
minutes
before
the
meeting,
so
I
I
gather
you're
starting
out
with
what
people
want
in
the
budget
intent
memo.
E
Right
all
right,
so
the
I
mean
to
some
extent
what
what
we
say
in
the
budget
intent
memo
is
a
little
dependent
upon
what
we
do
with
some
of
the
items
that
are
outstanding
with
regard
to
the
budget
and
some
of
the
changes
that
now
it
appears
the
administration
wants
us
to
make
and-
and
those
have
been
inserted
in
the
the
resolution
and
the
ordnance
amendments
so
we'll
have
to
loop
back,
and
you
know,
say
what
we
think
needs
to
be
said
about
those
things.
E
I
want
to
note
that
last
year's
budget
intent
memo
did
not
include
a
summary
of
the
significant
features
of
the
budget
itself,
and-
and
that
is
something
that
we
did
the
prior
couple
years
and
there's
a
part
of
me
that
debates-
whether
that
is
something
we
want
to
highlight
or
not,
but
there
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
say
is
as
a
foundational
from
our
perspective.
E
With
regard
to
the
budget,
the
challenges
that
we're
facing
currently
and
noting
yeah,
I
I
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
the
mayor's
budget
message
did
not
mention
the
tax
increase,
the
real
property
tax
increase.
At
least
I
couldn't
find
it
and
it
could
be.
I
still
don't
have
glasses
that
now
match
my
improved
eyesight,
so
I'm
I'm
still
challenged
a
little
bit
in
reading
fine
print.
I.
B
Couldn't
find
it
either
judy,
so
it's
not,
and
and
again
maybe
I
missed
it
as
well,
but
when
you
sent
that
note.
E
E
Yeah,
so
that
may
be
something
you
know
in
a
foundational
part,
so
you
may
want
to
take
a
look
at
what
we
did
in
2000
and
18
for
the
2019
budget,
intent
resolution
and
similarly
2017
to
get
an
idea
of
what
I'm
talking
about
some
foundational
summary
kind
of
stuff
that
we
think
is
important.
So
that
may
be
something
that
we
want
to
put
in
there,
and
I
think
that
it
is
worthwhile
for
us
to
be
mentioning
that
there's
really
for
the
most
part.
E
There's
no
raises
except
for
unions.
The
union
raises
and
then
there's
a
few
additional
raises,
some
of
which.
E
None
of
which
went
through
the
process,
I
think
that
we
had
anticipated
those
raises
would
be
going
through
with
regard
to
the
convening
of
a
body
to
take
a
look
at
equity.
E
I
think,
with
regard
to
raises
in
general,
so
I
do
think
wussu
raised
this
last
night
and
I
do
think
it's
something
that
we
probably
want
to
touch
on
in
our
budget
intent
memo
reminding
the
administration
that
we
really
do
want
to
have
the
input
from
experts
with
regard
to
an
assessment
about
how
we
do
raises
in
the
city
and
for
there
to
be
not
just
targeted
justification
for
those
that
tend
to
be
at
the
higher
levels,
but
also
then,
if
those
people
at
higher
levels
are
justified,
then
why
aren't
we
compensating
increasing
the
compensation
for
other
people
in
the
city.
E
I
think
that
it
would
be
appropriate
for
us
to
comment
that
there's
been
significant
improvements
in
the
five-year
capital
planning
and
that
we've
been
pushing
for
that.
It
is,
you
know,
a
work
in
progress,
but
I,
but
I
think
it
is
noteworthy
that
there
has
been
some
significant
improvements
in
the
five-year
capital
plan.
It
is
a
little
more
reflective
of
what
we
anticipated
what
the
charter
anticipates.
E
I
do
think
that
the
charter
and
the
the
recommendations
from
pfm
and
and
the
state
comptroller's
office
we
should
be
having
a
tracking
of
existing
projects,
be
part
of
the
capital
budget,
and
there
should
be,
I
think
at
least
quarterly
reports,
with
the
status
of
once.
You
have
asked
for
this
money
where,
where
is
it
in
process?
In
terms
of
you
know,
have
you
identified?
E
E
B
F
Thanks
jenny,
I
you
know
we
passed
that
equity
agenda
last
year
and
we
did
receive
that
annual
report
and
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
had
a
chance
to
read
through
it,
but
I
think
it's
worth
in
our
budget
intent
resolution
talking
saying
a
little
bit
about
the
equity
agenda
because
I
think
that's
so
important
to
our
city
I
have
and
mike
I
have
to
talk
to
you
more
about
this.
F
I've
had
a
resolution
sitting
there
regarding
equity
in
snow
removal
and
concerned
about
sidewalks
no
removal
in
particular,
since
we
have
so
many
people
who
depend
on
clear,
sidewalks
and
so
on,
but
I
I
just
want
to
just
throw
that
out
there
as
something
that
you
might
want
to
consider
saying
something
about
that.
You
know
the
value
of
making
sure
services
are
provided
equitably
throughout
the
city
that
that's
something
that
the
council
has
focused
on
past.
B
G
Thank
you.
I
just
had
two
points
I'd
like
for
us
to
keep
that
the
language
regarding
the
housing
survey
for
rent
stabilization.
G
I
know
that
because
of
covert
and
everything
else
that
happened
this
year
that
wasn't
able
to
occur,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
still.
It
was
a
resolution
that
we
passed
last
year
and
I
think
we
should
still
note
that
we'd
like
to
see
that
be
moved
forward.
You
know
this
year,
if
possible,
depending
on
what
occurs
with
the
virus.
G
Another
thing
that
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
can
advise
or
how
we
could
address
it
is
you
know
I
I
would
like
to
save
or
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
a
massive
cut
to
some
of
you
program
like
you
did
this
summer.
You
know.
I
know
this
is
a
budget
where
we
don't
really
know.
G
What's
going
to
happen,
I
hate
to
say
that,
but
I
mean-
and
I
think
a
lot
of
us
were
more
optimistic
yesterday
morning-
that
we
are
right
now
and
we're
probably
more
optimistic
right
now
than
we
were
this
morning.
So
you
know
that's
a
good
thing,
but
it
doesn't
look
like
we're
going
to
get
the
senate,
so
it
doesn't
look
like
we're
going
to
get
a
big
bill.
G
You
know
to
you
know,
support
the
losses
that
state
and
local
governments
have
had
so
I
know
it's
gonna
probably
be
a
tough
year
that
we're
facing
next
year.
So
I'd
like
to
have
something
in
there
that
emphasizes
you
know
our
concern.
G
For
some
I
mean
I'm
specifically
advocating
for
the
summer
you
program,
but
any
other
initiatives
that
people
would
want
to
see
advocated
for
if
possible,
just
because
that
I
felt
was
part
of
the
problem
that
we
saw
this
summer
when
you
have
when
you
go
from
having
a
thousand
young
people.
G
You
know
employed
over
the
summer
through
this
program
to
two
to
three
hundred
and
again
I
commend
demonstration.
I
commend
the
commissioner
for
even
being
able
to
have
those
numbers.
Other
cities
won't
even
even
have
so
many
participants,
but
you
know
I
don't
want
to
see
this
be
one
of
the
first
students
that
we
decide.
We
need
to
cut.
You
know
when
didn't
get
tough.
B
D
Thanks
just
picking
up
on
alfredo,
you
know,
to
the
extent
that
there
are
some
resolutions
that
we
adopted
during
the
course
of
the
year
that
are
budget
related.
We
should
reference
those
and
one
that
has
come
to
my
mind.
Just
now.
I'm
thinking
about
is
the
one
on
the
south
end
community
center.
B
D
I
guess
it's
violence,
prevention
initiatives,
it's
supposed
to
be
labeled
task
force,
but
and
the
task
force
has
a
role
in
terms
of
having
having
a
as
far
as
determining
how
that's
expended,
which
is
supposed
to
be
a
community
participatory
budgeting
process,
which
is
no
reference
in
the
budget
about
that
or
how
that's
going
to
happen,
because
there's
no
revenue
lot,
there's
no
budget
line
in
the
budget
in
compliance
with
that
requirement.
So
I
don't
know
why
you
know
that's
not
the
case,
but
I
guess
there's
a
question
as
to
are:
are
we
adding?
D
B
H
Yes,
sorry
I
I
did
not
have
this
meeting
on
my
calendar.
This
is
nick
blaise
here,
but
I
am
dave.
C
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
thanks
for
popping
in
and
apologies
on,
I'm
not
getting
that
this
one
of
the
many
many
meetings
to
you.
So
we
should
move
on
to
discussing
the
resolutions.
B
B
So
what
would
be
great
is
if
we
could
actually
pass
some
of
the.
A
So
jenny,
do
you
want
me
to
bring
up
each
resolution
one
by
one
and
have
it
that.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
this
the
first
one
we
have
is
96
102
20,
which
is
establishing
a
capital
reserve
fund
known
as
the
urban
planning
fund
and
as
I'm
trying
to
scroll,
I
realize
it's
not
in
my
screen.
B
I
would
like
go
down
to
the
so
we
can
get
to
that
yeah.
This
lovely
part
of
it,
where
it's
kind
of
meat
and
potatoes.
B
H
To
be
honest,
I
can't
speak
to
this
one.
That
much
does
this
delineate
all
the
separate
funds,
the
creation
of
all
those
separate
reserve
funds-
yep
yep.
Well,
I'm
just
we
did,
as
you
know,
as
part
of
the
budget,
allocate
some
money
for.
H
H
Sorry
so
yeah,
as
you
know,
as
part
of
the
budget,
we
did
create
and
set
aside
some
money
for
a
capital
reserve
fund,
but
I
I
cannot
fully
speak
to
the
delineation
of
all
the
specific
funds
here.
Where
did
those
originate?
All
the
the
specific
capital
reserve
funds.
B
So
this
one
is
from
it,
it
doesn't
that's
one
of
the
issues
with
it
is,
it
doesn't
say
exactly
I'm
assuming
this
is
with
the
planning
department,
urban
planning
fund,
and
I
just
I
don't
have
the
detail.
I
don't
specifically
remember
the
details
as
much
on
this
one.
The
other
ones
haven't
been
better
with,
but
I.
H
I
guess
just
from
from
my
perspective,
I
think,
when
we
kind
of
established
this
or
set
some
of
this
money
aside,
it
was
with
the
intention
of
doing
a
capital
reserve
for
the
first
time
and
kind
of
taking
care
of
some
of
those
normal
every
year,
operating
expenses
that
we
shouldn't
be
paying
for
with
interest.
But
I
did
not
know
you
know
that
there
was.
There
were
intentions
to
create
several
funds.
I
thought
that
the
intention
was
kind
of.
H
If
we
do,
you
know,
if
we
create
a
capital
reserve
fund,
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
to
use
that
money.
It's
not
you
know
restricted
in
the
sense.
If
one
project
doesn't
pan
out,
we
can't
use
that
for
another
thing,
but
it
is
restricted
in
the
sense
that
it
has
to
be
used
for
capital
items
and
and
restricted
in
the
sense
that
it
needs
to
follow
in
accordance
with
the
unadopted
and
authorized
budget.
So
I
guess
yeah.
When
we
proposed
it,
I
was,
I
thought
it
was.
B
H
The
whole
the
whole
capital
reserve
allocation,
I
think
for
all
together-
was
one
was
1.7
million.
I
believe.
E
E
Brownfields
opportunity
areas
so
we're
getting
a
partial
grant
for
that
and
we
need
to
contribute
a
certain
amount
for
that.
Now.
H
So
I
I
don't
understand
them
either,
so
I
guess
we're
on
the
same
page.
C
H
Yeah,
I
think
the
establishment
of
a
capital
reserve
could
fund
all
of
those
things
it
looked
like.
H
I
don't
know
how
it
got
translated
to
those
being
separate
funds
in
the
bond
ordinance,
but
those
would
certainly
all
be
projects
that
we
could
fund
out
of
the
capital
reserve
account
that
we
could
establish,
but
we
may
not
want
to
create
that
many
capital
reserve
funds
it's
the
first
year
doing
it
you
mean
we
may
want
to
create
one
capital
reserve
fund
and
then
fund
those
capital
projects
out
of
the
the
fund
and
then
see
how
it
goes
from
there.
A
H
Okay,
then,
thank
you
for
filling
me
in
on
that
I
mean,
if
that's
the
the
way,
the
mechanism
that
we
have
to
go
forward
with
this,
then
no,
I
don't
see
any
opposition
to
that.
I
was
just
unsure
of
kind
of
how
we
arrived
to
the
to
the
funds
being
delineated,
the
way
that
they
were,
because
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
big
deal.
E
E
E
For
example,
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
put
over
a
million
dollars
in
a
capital
reserve
fund
for
building
improvements
in
the
city,
because
there's
always
a
need
for
building
improvements
in
the
city
but
and
rather
than
what
randy
does
mr
milano
does
is.
E
You
can
tap
into
that
and
and
generally
reserve
funds
are
supposed
to
be
for
future
planning
in
general,
so
that
you
are
lessening,
I
want
to
say
the
ups
and
downs
of
your
of
the
impact
on
your
budget
for
emergencies
or
you
know,
building
repairs,
etc.
E
So
it's
you
know
it's
it's
sort
of
how
some
people
create
a
christmas
fund
and
you
put
money
in
that
every
month,
as
opposed
to
oh
it's
december.
I
now
need
to
spend
you
know
that
amount
of
money
so
that
you
know
this
is,
for
you
know
over
a
period
of
years
is
generally
the
goal,
but
each
one
of
these
projects.
E
B
E
I
would
prefer
for
us
to
be
clear
about
what
is
coming
out
of
a
reserve
fund.
What
is
cash,
and
you
know
if
you
look
at
other
municipalities
budgets,
they
have
an
item
for
cash
for
capital
expenditures,
for
you
know
the
share,
or
you
know
or
or
bonding.
So
it's
bonding
capital
reserve
and
cash
is
all
part
of
your
total
budget.
I
would
like
us
to
get
do
it
right
first
time
as
we're
doing
this.
H
And
judy,
I
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
you
on
that
either,
but
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
section
of
the
charter
that
you're
referring
to
do.
We
is
this,
a
resolution
that
we
may
be
able
to
potentially
table
for
now
discuss
offline
and
then
bring
up
at
the
next
finance
committee
meeting.
B
We
can
I
mean
I,
I
think
that
it
is
a
helpful
thing.
Perhaps
what
we
can
do
is
look
at
the
expenditures
for
the
different
resolutions
make
sure
we
don't
have
any
questions
on
those
specifically.
We
have
to
discuss
them
at
different
committee
meetings
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
have
that
broader
discussion
about
the
capital
reserve
fund
future,
and
then
we
can
hopefully
pass
them
in
a.
We
won't
have
to
go
through
the
actual
financial
pieces.
Does
that
make
sense
to
everyone.
H
It
that
makes
sense
to
me:
we
did
go
over
the
budget
office
today,
judy
the
email
that
you
sent
and
we
drafted
it
up.
We
have
a
answer
or
clarification
or
additional
information
for
everything,
and
this
was
actually
the
one
item
that
required
some
follow-up
on
our
end
as
we
just
analyzed
it
wanted
to
get
you
a
a
response.
So
it's
just
it's
good
that
this
product
was
brought
up
tonight,
but
it's
coincidental,
that's.
That
was
the
one
thing
we
were
looking
into
before
we
sent
out
our
reply
to
your.
H
B
And
then
just
a
note,
thank
you
michelle
for
sharing
that
on
monday,
we
are
planning
on
doing
the
bonding
ordinances,
so
it
might
be
tight
to
just
have
a
big
discussion
on
this
as
well
jared.
Do
you
mind
pulling
up
the
next?
B
B
And
that's
the
information
on
this
is
on
page
95
of
the
budget
book.
B
And
so
this
is
the
doing:
ridgefield
westland
hills,
washington
park
and
mata
christie,
equipment
and
renovations
and
then
spray
pads
at
westland
hills.
B
I
thought
there
was
other
places:
oh
swinburne,
court
resurfacing
and
westland
hill
spray
pads.
E
Jenny,
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
total
amount
of
to
be
appropriated
this
year
for
those
purposes.
All
those
purposes
that
you
just
mentioned
is
really
five
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
285
000
will
be
in
borrowing
and
245.
000
is
intended
to
be
in
cash.
Capital
is
how
the
budget
says
it
as
opposed
to
reserve
funds
so
yeah,
so
this
is
245
000,
so
I
you
know,
I
just
want
people
to
have
that
whole
picture.
E
When
we
get
to
the
bond
ordinances,
there
will
be
a
bond
ordinance
for
285
to
fill
this
out
nick.
I'm
wondering
why
this
was
divvied
up
in
that.
H
Way
so
do
you
mean
why
this
was
broken
out
as
a
as
its
own
fund,
or
why
are
these
parks
and
those
investments
were
divvied
up
that
way.
E
It
is
285
000
in
borrowing
for
playgrounds,
and
then
another
130
is
being
borrow,
is
cash
capital
for
playgrounds
and
plus
another
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
for
spray
pads
and
court
resurfacing?
So
the
question
is
why
why
wouldn't
all
this
be
cash
capital
or
why
wouldn't
it?
You
know
what
was
the
thought
process
behind
having
part
of
it
be
borrowing
and
part
of
it?
The
cash
capital.
H
I
think
that
we
wanted
to
touch
a
little
bit
upon
recurring,
operating
exp,
recurring
expenses
that
could
be
operating
expenses
across
the
departments
and
move
as
much
to
a
capital
reserve
or
cash
capital,
as
we
could
afford
to
do
so
in
the
first
year.
But
that
was
one
where
we
couldn't.
You
know
fully.
We
couldn't
fully
fund
there
all
of
that
through
there,
but
we
were
happy
to
move
a.
E
E
B
Sure
yeah,
I
think
especially
not
that
we
didn't
appreciate
our
parks
before,
but
during
covet
it's
I
feel,
like
they've,
been
such
a
lifeline,
so
it's
great
to
see
that
investment.
E
He's
doing
that,
can
I
just
chime
in
here.
The
provision
in
this
in
the
city
charter
is
found
in
604.
E
E
So
I
think
that
that
provides
the
appropriate
mechanism
for
us
to
do.
You
know
to
make
this
a
cash
appropriation
and
an
account
can
be
set
up
with
that
notation
in
it
that
it
can
be
carried
over
into
the
next
year
in
some
cases.
So
then,
the
following
year,
you
would
show
that
separate
account
its
current
balance.
E
Hopefully,
what
has
been
you
know
accomplished
of
the
purposes,
and
then
you
know
it
indicate
what
additional
use
is
going
to
be
made
of
that
capital
account
if
it
has
not
been
all
used
and
in
some
cases
that
account
then
may
be
appropriate
to
have
it
be
supplemented
for
again,
more
playground,
improvements
or
something
like
that.
B
Yeah
with
those
pieces
that
does
discuss
what
the
logic-
and
I
I
think
I
explained
this,
and
we
obviously
can
talk
more
about
it
when
we
have
the
appropriate
staff
members
here,
but
mike
wheeler
said
that
the
law
that
the
intent
was
to
make
sure
that
the
funds
towards
the
specific
projects
and
including
if
it
was
if
they
were
not
fully
utilized
in
each
year,
that
it
could
go
over
into
the
next
year.
But
as
judy
read
through
that,
that
does
seem
to
cover
that
piece.
So.
E
It's
kind
of
actually
exactly
what
we
do
with
the
bonding
ordinances
now,
so
we
borrow
money
and
we
borrow
money,
for
you
know:
capital
improvements
to
buildings,
and
sometimes
we
might
have
borrowed
some
more
there's,
nothing
really
that
we're
doing
other
than
having
the
paper
trail
and
having
the
discussion
etc.
About
okay,
we
are
borrowings,
you
know
to
replace
the
roof
on
engine
nine
and
replace
the
doors
on
engine
11,
etc.
E
You
know,
I
hope,
we're
not
going
to
narrowly
craft
these
so
that
it
says
swinburne
as
opposed
to
parks
and
playgrounds
and
again
so
the
money
is
left
over.
You
have
the
account
established
for
parks
and
playgrounds
with
the
capital
fund,
the
capital
cash
account
and
it
is
gets
carried
over
the
next
year
for
those
purposes.
E
Whether
swinburne,
you
know-
and
I
gotta
say
you
know-
we've
we've
passed
bonds,
saying
it's
going
to
be
lincoln
park
pool
playground,
that's
going
to
be
changed
in
the
discussions
that
we've
had
and
then
it
becomes
impractical,
because
why
are
we
going
to
do
that
when
we're
having
problems
with
the
pool
and
we
need
to?
We
may
need
a
major
construction
issue.
There.
A
Yeah,
just
in
my
research
with
from
what
knight
comma
says,
just
use
of
fund
balance
is
kind
of
similar
to
what
councilwoman
do
shay
said,
because
it
seems
like
this
fun
these
funds
kind
of
give
a
little
flexibility,
because,
according
to
nikon,
the
unexpended
balance
in
a
capital
reserve
fund
may
be
transferred
to
another
capital
reserve
fund.
However,
where
the
funds
have
been
established
to
sub
establish,
subject
to
a
permissive
referendum,
any
transfer
from
the
fund
is
also
subject
to
a
permissive
referendum.
A
If
there
is
an
unobligated
balance
remaining
in
a
fund
established
for
a
specific
capital
improvement
or
which
has
been
completed
or
required,
the
city
council
may
appropriate
any
or
all
such
fund
for
an
object
or
purpose
which
bonds
may
be
issued,
or
the
payment
of
interest
and
principal
on
of
cities
and
dentists.
So
it
seems
like
more
flexibility
with
reserve
funds,
I'm
not
sure.
E
A
Over
bonds
with
the
cash
account,
there
is
flexibility,
but
over
bonds,
because
as
with
bonds
and
how
I
understand
them
is
they're
very
for
a
specific
purpose,
whereas
these
funds
give
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
transfers.
So,
but
it
has
to
go
from
what
I've
read
it
seems
I
go
from
one
capital
reserve
fund
to
another
capital
reserve
fund.
E
E
Is
it
for
the
purpose
of
we
used
to
say
you
know
a
ladder
truck
and
now
we
say
fire
apparatus,
and
there
are
plenty
of
municipalities
and
larger
cities,
certainly
use
a
broader
term
in
recognition
of
the
fact
that
things
tend
to
be
fluid
where
you
might
have
in
a
very
small
municipality
that
says
this
kind
of
bobcat.
E
You
know,
as
as
a
piece
of
you
know,
equipment
where
you
know
there
may
be
a
desire
for
tighter
controls.
I
don't
think
either.
One
of
those
is
wrong
as
long
as
we're
talking
about
fire
trucks
or
fire
apparatus
and
playground
equipment
being
bonded
for
separately
those
I
you
know,
I
I
think
that
you
know
you
don't
want
to
do
one
general
bonding
for
all
capital
improvements
and
you
and
I
think
that
we
have
appropriate.
E
I
want
to
say
silos
established
now
with
regard
to
essentially
we're
doing
allocations
for
buildings,
we're
doing
allocations
for
dgs
equipment
and
vehicles,
and
you
know
fire
police
vehicles
versus
police
I.t
equipment
are,
you
know
so.
C
E
Pretty
well,
but
we
can
do
the
same
thing
with
you
know:
have
that
broader
stuff,
both
for
the
reserve
funds
and
also
for
whatever
cash
account
that
we
establish
for
improvements.
That's
my
take
on
it.
E
You
know
the
administration.
There
has
to
be
buy-in
from
the
administration
that
you
know
what
I'm
suggesting
is
gonna
work,
and
maybe
you
know
there's
something
else
that
I
don't
know
about,
why
it
wouldn't.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that
that's
something
I
make
some
excellent
points.
Why
don't
we
finish
up
jer?
Can
you
pull
up
the
next
ordinance.
A
Yep,
the
next
one
is
98
98.102.20r,
a
resolution
of
the
common
council
establishing
a
capital
reserve
fund
to
be
known
as
the
the
general
services
equipment
fund.
This
is
for
295
520
and
it
is
noted
in
page
90
of
the
budget
book
for
their.
B
And.
Just
to
note
that
the
capital
portion
is
a
piece
of
it,
we'll
be
borrowing
as
well.
A
E
So
I
want
to
note
that
joe
I
go
when
I
you
know.
First
started
on
the
finance
committee,
joe
igo
and
dan
herring
noted
how
we
really
don't
want
to
do
borrowing
for
purchases
that
are
fifteen
thousand
dollars.
You
know
for
this
mower
or
radios,
or
you
know
other
minor
equipment
purchases,
and
that
really
should
be
in
the
capital
and
that
in
the
cash
side
of
things
this
is
beginning
to
accomplish
that.
E
So,
when
you
look
at
what
is
being
put
in
the
reserve,
it
is
the
a
lot
of
the
smaller
priced
items
that
is
appropriate
to
move
to
a
cash
side.
I
want
to
note
that
some
of
this
may
not
be
really
considered
capital-
and
I
not
this
year
going
to-
I
want
to
say
quibble
about
that,
but
I
think
it
you
know
just
from
an
educational
standpoint.
E
E
E
E
E
E
There's
the
the
other
comment
I
will
make
is
this
is
a
significant
amount
of
equipment
you
know
being
purchased.
There
is
a
higher
than
normal
amount
of
vehicles
being
purchased.
E
You
know
the
I
think
joe
gable
house
has
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
you
know,
making
the
argument
that
we
save
money
on
labor
costs
and
constantly
repairing
things
or
or
having
not
utilizing
our
labor
efficiently,
because
sometimes
you
have
vehicles
that
are
in
the
shop
as
opposed
to
being
out
on
the
streets
collecting
garbage.
E
So
while
this
is
a
lot
of
purchases,
I
do
note
that
in
future
years,
because
we
have
been
doing
more
purchases
like
this
we're
sort
of
bringing
the
whole
fleet
up
to
speed
where
they
would
like
it.
So
in
the
future
there
will
be
fewer
capital
purchases
along
these
lines,
but
it
overall
does
have
an
impact.
E
You
know
the
big
picture
has
an
impact
on
our
the
amount
of
debt
service
we
will
be
paying
in
the
future
and
that
becoming
more
than
10
of
our
budget
within
a
year
or
two.
A
A
B
So
this
is
to
update
the
it.
H
This
one
is
well,
I
guess
this
would
just
be
another,
a
specific
fund
for
it,
and
that
follows
the
breakdown
in
the
capital
plan.
But
I
guess
earlier
when
I
was
referring
to
the
the
tabling
of
that
urban
planning
one,
I
guess
in
a
larger
sense.
H
I
was
referring
to
circling
back
on
all
of
these,
although
it
is
a
good
to
have
this
opportunity
tonight
just
so,
we
can
talk
about
the
allocation
of
funds
and
the
projects
that
each
of
those
would
fund,
but
so
so
this
is
just
the
I.t
portion
of
that,
and
I
think
that
the
the
way
that
we
want
to
establish
this,
I
kind
of
agree
with
judy.
H
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
it
right
and
we
it's
I
to
be
honest,
like
we,
we
envisioned
the
establishment
of
one
capital
capital
reserve
fund,
it
sounds
like
judy
is
mentioning
that
we
could
do
some
capital
allocations
through
the
general
and
then
what
kind
of
came
out
through
the
law
department
which
sounds
like
it
was
because
of
requirements,
potentially
in
general
municipal
laws
that
we
have
to
have
very
specific
capital
funds.
So
I
think
everybody
everything
here
is
everybody's
well
intentioned
and
it's.
D
H
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
going
forth
with
a
strategy
that
that
makes
the
most
sense
and
that
doesn't
restrict
us.
So
I
think
I
think
we
are
all
on
the
same
page,
but
we
just
kind
of
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
it'd
be
good
to
circle
back
on
after
we
just
kind
of
touch
base.
H
B
So
the
last
one
is
the
police
cars
which
I
know
we
did
discuss
in
depth.
So
perhaps
we
can
touch
base
on
these
again.
B
B
And
with
that,
I
think
that
that
was
those
were
kind
of
our
goals
tonight
there.
So
we
did
accomplish
one
we've
got
some
good
stuff
to
add
into
I've,
got
a
lot
to
work
with
jr,
and
I,
with
the
budget,
intent
memo
and
we'll
circle
back
on
the
capital
reserve
funds
and
and
see
if
it's
something
that
we
actually
do
need
to
do
so
and
nick
I'm
assuming
you
have
enough
information
to
kind
of
move
forward
with
looking
into
those
pieces.
H
Yeah,
absolutely,
I
think
it
was
still
good
to
to
have
this
discussion
tonight
too,
because
we,
you
know
to
talk
about
the
programmatic
side
of
of
what
each
department
is
kind
of
planning
on
doing
or
what
we're
planning
on
funding
for
the
departments
with
with
the
capital
reserve
money
but
yeah,
like
you
said,
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
procedure
now
moving
forward.
B
Yeah,
it
might
be
something
we
don't
actually
need
to
vote
individually
on
them,
but
more.
It's
part
of
the
budget.
H
E
E
B
If
not,
we
can
adjourn-
and
I
believe
our
next
meeting
is
monday
and
we're
planning
on
talking
about
the
bonding
ordinances
for
that
jr
and
I
are
going
to
be
working
on
the
budget
intent
memo
tomorrow.
So
hopefully
everyone
will
have
something
to
look
at
soon.
B
So
thank
you,
everyone
and
thank
you
nick
for
popping
on.
We
appreciate
it
and
I
hope
everyone
has
a
great
night.