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A
It's
on
so
I'm
calling
to
order
a
meeting
of
the
finance
taxation
assessment
committee
present
our
members
Jamel
Robinson
mr.
O'brien,
who
is
Ferrell
in
myself
to
negotiate
the
chair
also
present.
Our
is
our
president
Corey
Ellis
and
our
President
Pro
Tem
Richard
Conte,
along
with
our
temporary
staff
member
Jared,
Pellerin
and.
B
A
Remember
elusive
nany
with
us
today
is
the
treasurer.
Our
topics
of
discussion
are
the
fourth
quarter
report
for
2018,
which
makes
at
the
end
of
the
year
report
treasurer's
report
the
first
quarter
report
for
2019
and
then
I've
also
added
in
a
little
bit
of
a
plan
to
discuss
the
most
recent
ban
issuance
and
we'll
get
to
that
a
little
bit
later.
If
nobody
has
any
objections,
I
would
like
to
I
want
to
recognize.
A
D
Long
and
short
of
it
is
essentially
that
we
about
a
three
million
dollar
surplus
last
year,
do
and
mostly
to
safety
entirely
to
higher
than
expected
sales
tax
revenue
and
lower
than
expected
retiree
health
care
costs.
Its
best
contain
the
first
paragraph.
What
that
has
effectively
done
and
build
our
fund
balance
up
a
little
bit
more
this
year
to
about
nine
point,
1
million
dollars,
which
is
very
you,
know,
a
big
step
in
the
positive
direction.
D
However,
we
are
not
near
where
we
need
to
be
for,
for
fiscal
stress
purposes,
and,
and
really
you
know
the
best
practices
we
want
to
be
at
about
10
percent
of
our
of
our
expenses,
which
is
for
the
city
of
being
the
neighborhood
of
one
of
17
to
18
billion
dollars.
I
think
you
know
we
can
go
through
the
report.
If
there's
any
specific
questions
that
you
have
Salvage
or
lower
compared
to
2017
and
fringe
benefits
were
down
there
not
for
2017,
but
the
budget.
D
D
D
You
know
we're
fortunate
that
for
the
past
several
years,
the
mayor
is
going
to
get
that
money
from
the
state
and
and
provided
too
much
of
a
problem
there
right
now
they
are
holding
on
five
million
dollars
with
12
million.
They
did
the
same
thing.
Last
year
they
got
back
on
three
million
out
of
the
12
million
they're.
D
Yeah
they
budgeted
in
two
separate
budget
lines
at
the
state
and
one
Nathan.
They
basically
said.
Well,
you
know
we'll
have
to
get
that
one
to
you
basically,
I
think
that
they
are.
You
know.
I
can't
speak
for
them.
Obviously,
but
if
they're
looking
at
saying
well,
you
know
things
are
going
great.
You
don't
need
that
five
million.
Don't
need
that
three
million.
So
we're
not
going
to
give
it
to
you,
but
they
didn't
didn't,
provide
a
problem.
Lat
I,
don't
expect
they
will
is
here,
but
yeah
big
split
up.
D
They
also
split
up
the
payments
for
the
for
the
pilot
revenue.
We
used
to
just
bill
it
towards
the
end
of
the
year
towards
November
the
entire
the
entire
shot
I
realize
the
featuresnow
actually
that
they
were
supposed
to
be
doing
it
in
April
and
November.
So
they
are
start
to
miss
the
the
first
half
and
it's
springtime
in
the
second
half
towards
the
end
of
year.
So
still
expect
them
to
do
that
with
the
capital
city
funding
it
well,
but
anything's
possible,
I.
Suppose
Donna.
F
H
D
D
We
have
not
received
seven
million
dollars,
yet
we
build
it
and
we
expect
to
receive
it
shortly.
I'm
gonna
be
following
up
with
them,
it
doesn't
put
us
in
a
cash
bind
yet,
but
if
it,
if
it
takes
hundredths
or
two,
then
then
yes,
it
will.
But
we
did
I,
don't
expect
it's
gonna,
be
a
problem.
F
A
I
F
C
F
Happened,
but
the
basic
question
is
in
terms
of
the
you
know
how
much
tribute
to
police
vacancies.
Other
figures
as
well,
the
police
seems
to
be
the
biggest
one
and
since
we
believe
we
do
not
have
a
contract
going
back
further,
it's
quite
possible
once
we
do
have
something
like
there
might
be
some
retroactive
going
back
to
last
year.
It
could
also
potentially
eat
into
the
three
million
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
much
of
that
three
million
is
real
or
how
much
to
really
due
to
factors
such
as.
F
D
You
know
it
really
is
attributable
to
the
to
two
things
that
I
think
they
talked
about
their
sales
tax
and
in
retirement
healthcare.
There
there
is
I,
don't
know
the
precise
numbers
and
Nick
might,
but
there
is
a
you
know:
a
significant
savings,
I
think
on
the
on
the
police,
side
and
fire
as
well.
The
vacancies,
however,
that
usually
gets
eaten
up
by
tractor
races
that
have
fun
as
well
as
overtime
as
well
as
violence
when
people
retire,
then.
G
D
That's
and
that's
the
largest
I
think
everyone
should
take
away
from
this,
that
we
had
a
surplus
this
year
because
of
two
events
that
no
one
I
think
necessarily
saw
coming
budgetary,
which
is
a
fairly
dramatic
increase
in
sales,
tax
revenue
and
a
good
year
for
retirement
house,
and
we've
had
instances
like
this
in
the
past
year
as
well.
That
helps
bring
back
the
fund
balance.
But
those
events
that
happen
in
the
past
didn't
have
to
miss
her.
D
F
F
J
J
C
G
Numbers
on
overtime
as
compared
to
vacancy
savings,
the
department
by
Department,
because
in
early
June
sérgio,
came
to
our
General
Services
Committee,
and
this
was
he
was
questioned
about
it
and
he
estimated
because
he
has
a
lot
of
seasonal
workers.
But
he
estimated
that
he
had
about
20
percent
vacancy
in
his
personal
services
budget,
which
he
admitted
because
everybody
was
screaming
at
him
about
potholes,
which
he
admitted
directly
impacted
his
ability
to
provide
services
and
also
in
forestry.
Do
you
think
he
was
down
at
one
point
of
almost
100
percent
in
forestry?
J
You
wanna
factor
all
that
in
and
then
you
have
the
buyout
cost
that
was
mentioned
as
well,
so
they'll
retire
they
get
a
buyout
and
then
you
know
it
impacts.
Staffing,
like
you're
saying,
was
surge.
You
know
it's
tough,
it
impacts
department
operations.
So,
although
it's
cheaper,
you
know
to
be
down
that
many
people
and
then
to
you.
K
What
you're
saying
is:
is
overtime
effects,
departments
differently
in
difficulties
that
as
well,
where
police
has
certain
things
where
who
they
could
call
to
kind
of,
regardless
of
comedies
that
they
have.
You
know
the
yes,
sir
departments,
that
overtime
to
make
sure
where
the
fire
department
has
has
set
schedules
instead,
where.
K
A
K
A
Well,
just
just
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
really
good
question:
I!
Don't
want
us
bugging,
you
guys,
and
you
know
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
you
know
before
we
should
but
I.
You
know,
because
the
question
has
been
asking
you
guys
are
agreeing
to
that.
I
just
want
to
have
some
mechanism
for
making
sure
it
doesn't
involve
cracks.
Yeah.
B
A
A
M
A
D
Was
that
if
you
take
out
the
the
two
items
that
I
was
talking
about,
the
city
was
basically
at
about
a
half
million
dollars
over
budget,
but
that
being
said,
the
department's
at
various
Department
of
Department
I,
don't
think
there
was
a
huge
variation
department
to
Department.
That
being
said,
overtime
is
still
a
big
budget,
buster
and
police
and
fire
in
particular,
as.
D
D
That,
if
you're
under
budget
book
that
revenues
to
the
fun
back,
essentially
you
come
in
under
budget.
Congratulations,
we
got
an
extra.
You
know,
$50,000
it
in
spend.
If
you're
over
budget
depends
on
what
you're
over
budget
on
and
try
to
adjust
your
budget
for
the
following
year
and
see
where
we
can
make
the
individual
departments
whole
on
a
are
over
budget.
K
J
Also,
as
a
department
not
allowed
to
spend
beyond,
what's
budgeted
for
non
personnel
lines,
so
that's
what
the
budget
transfers
throughout
the
year
for
and
police
and
fire
overtime
regularly
go
over
budget,
and
you
know
that's
something.
We
monitor
with
integer
room
for
improvement
on,
but
as
part
of
weekly
payroll
journals.
You
know
we
make
course
corrections
for
anything
that
we
think
may
be
over
budget
throughout
the
year.
K
D
A
C
D
A
G
G
C
C
C
E
G
Can
I
ask
you
one
other
question
which
yes,
their
trash
P,
which
we
all
get
phone
calls
about,
expires
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
we
formally
renewed
and
right
in
the
ordinance.
It
says
we
are
supposed
to
be
I
think
at
least
annual,
maybe
by
annually
submitted
information
based
on
the
true
costs
of
collection
and
disposal,
municipal
trash
and
I.
Don't
think
we've
gotten
those
numbers
from
a.
Why
well
I
think
I.
G
E
A
Reminding
folks
that
the
Treasury
ordinance
is
sunsetting
and
that
there
needs
to
be
at
some
legislation
put
forward,
preferably
before
the
budget
is
developed,
relying
on
it,
because
this
has
been
a
discussion
of
the
swamp
meetings
and
I
think
that
people
anticipated
that
there
would
be
some
sort
of
collective
decisions
or
discussion
at
least
in
discussion
about
it
before
it.
Just
whatever
happens.
It
appears
on
that
budget
and.
C
A
B
G
D
Depends
on
whether
people
pay
lean
I
think
the
amount
that
we
actually
ended
up
billing,
and
this
is
it's
also
going
to
go
down,
because
I
think
everyone
had
presumed
that
people
knew
about
eligibility
for
things
like
Han,
star
and
even
low
income
and
low
income
senior
Buncombe
disabled,
a
little
consumer
tax
abatements.
That
would
that
would
make
those
people
eligible
for
a
waiver
of
their
tax
of
their
trash
fee.
D
We're
finding
that
there's
a
large
chunk
of
people
who
are
likely
eligible
and
didn't
know
it,
so
that
is
one
could
probably
provide
a
few
more
exemptions
for
the
trash
big
bill.
We
I
think
as
as
put
forth.
The
figure
was
I
think
it
was
two
point
in
the
budget
at
the
end
up
being
two
point:
five
ish,
which
was
actually
billed,
but
that
does
not
take
into
account
late
fees,
which
ends
up
kind
of
putting
the
same
pool.
I.
A
D
I
D
We'll
know
more
I
mean
III
if
I
were
to
fin.
It
guess
at
this
point,
I
would
say
that
$100
is
probably
appropriate,
especially
if
we
are
able
to
put
it
on
the
tax
bill
and
and
have
it
late
fee
for
that
be
on
the
order
of
what
it
is
for
for
property
taxes,
which
is
4%
in
February
and
then
1%
per
month.
Thereafter,
they
may
have
to
go
higher,
but
I
think
that
don't
have
to
crunch
those
numbers
as
part
of
the
part
of
the
whole
problem.
D
But
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
this
has
been
so
difficult
is
that
we
do
not
have
an
easy
way
to
deal
with
the
exemptions
on
the
waste
collection,
feed
bills
that
that
happened
in
the
past
and
that
not
that
was
easy.
In
the
past.
We're
dealing
with
just
four
multi-units
that
was
difficult
to,
but
the
enhanced
are
the
enhanced.
D
Our
exemption
has
gone
from
being
something
that
is
available
to
us
on
our
on
our
real
property
tax
database
to
something
that
is
sometimes
a
mail
ball
that
database
and
sometimes
not
if
people
switch
to
go
to
the
state
as
if
they're
chat,
instead
of
instead
of
having
a
Bateman
on
their
property
taxes,
we
are
slowly
getting
to
the
point
where
we
may
be
able
to
get
at
least
80%
of
eligibility.
Exemptions
for
enhanced
are
from.
D
In
a
semi
workable
form
as
of
early
August,
but
the
what
they
have
done
passed
with
this
database,
that
they
have
that
they
provide
to
the
assessor's
office
essentially
doesn't
allow
just
amounts
to
pick
out
which
ones
to
the
hand
stars
and
then
go
through
them
very
easily.
It's
like
it's
it's
it's
very
1985.
The
database,
like
our
old
database,
here
we're
working
to
try
and
find
out
ways
to
make
it
easier,
but
thus
far
it's
hasn't
proven
as
as
simple
as
possible,
and
that.
G
C
D
Think
once
we
get
through
this
process,
we're
gonna
have
a
better
handle
on
how
many
people
are
actually
exempt
in
the
city
of
Albany.
So
we
talked
about
you
know:
exempt
property,
the
city
of
Albany
there's
a
whole
host
of
properties
in
the
city
that
have
an
exemption
on
them
because
they
have
the
little
exemption
for
senior
star
or
senior
disabled,
I'm,
sorry
senior,
low
income
senior
and
going
to
disabled.
D
D
I
I
D
Think
the
the
biggest
news
I
think
that
would
come
out
of
out
of
this
one
is
that
once
again,
the
sales
tax
is
you'll,
see
here
a
tail
on
the
second
line
of
the
chart.
Here
you
know,
theoretically,
what
you
want
is
25%
and
the
calm
over
here
for
every
budget
identity
years
ago,
you're
at
the
quarter,
so
you'll
have
to
be
25%,
doesn't
always
work
that
way
with
sales
tax.
D
D
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
looking
at
about
if
trends
hold
right
now,
perhaps
a
36
million
to
36
1/2
million
figure
coming
in,
which
would
put
us
one
and
a
half
to
two
million
dollars
over
budget
for
sales.
Tax
revenue,
if
that
comes
in
the
last
quarter,
is
always
essentially
the
first
quarters
low.
Second
and
third
quarters
are
kind
of
the
same
in
the
fourth
quarter,
which
is
Christmastime,
is
hot
and
kind
of
makes
up
for
the
for
the
first
two.
A
C
A
J
Yeah,
that's
actually
not
that
bad
for
them
for
the
first
quarter,
but
compared
to
where
they
were
last
year.
At
the
same
point,
they're
still
a
little
higher
vacancies
have
definitely
impacted
that
department.
A
lot
they're
still
inversing
people,
but
I
did
have
a
chance
to
follow
up
with
a
deputy
chief
dial
you
and
he
said
that
they
have
made
some
progress
for
their
plans
to
reduce
overtime.
I
The
topical
overtime
you
know
so
time
the
big
day
just
because
often
times
Wofford,
you
know
a
lot
of
movies
ticket
Admiral
demonstrations
working
really
hard
to
kind
of
build
some
morality.
Certain
department
head
to
have
barbecue
one
of
those
things,
but
I
just
want
to
express
that
you
know
with
these
high
overtime
numbers
even
when
you're
trying
to
build
around.
Sometimes
these
things
are
making
to
take
the
steps
back
and
we
have
to
start
figuring
out.
We
need
to
hire
more
people
because
these
individuals,
who
are
working
overtime,
overtime,
overtime,
so
forth.
I
Morale
but
these
wars
over
times
making
these
departments
take
a
step
back
and
I
just
hope
that
we
could
start
looking
into
trying
to
dress
this
moving
forward
instead
of
saying.
Well,
we
have
less
only
time
than
last
year.
I
mean,
lastly,
was
a
high
overtime
out.
It
doesn't
mean
that
is
we
had
where
it
should
be.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
all
that
if
there
is
ways
that
we
need
to
hire
more
people,
then
let's
do
it.
They
set
up
all
of
these
overtime
because.
D
E
K
It
does
depend
on
the
department
and
again
I
I'd
love
to
talk
about
the
fire
one,
because
we
have
that
pretty
much
down
down
to
a
science
now,
but
in
terms
of
what
you're
saying
it's
it's
almost
two
parts,
one
is
the
fact
that
you
know
there
are
these.
You
know
sort
of
events
that
are
generating
overtime
by
you
know
getting
them
out
in
the
community
doing
things
like
that.
But
then
it
is
hiring
more
people.
The
solution
to
that.
No.
I
I
D
It's
fair
to
say
the
limitation
that
we
have
is
getting
the
recruits
into
and
into
the
the
system
there
to
get
them
onto
the
force.
That
has
been
the
problem.
I
think
they've
taken
a
lot
of
steps
to
address
that
by
expanding
being
able
to
expand
in
the
resistance
who
can
get
them,
including
Academy,
to
get
them
onto
the
streets,
so
they've
been
they've
been
doing
that
for
for
a
while
yeah.
J
The
trouble
has
been
able
to
hire
you
know
today,
they're
budgeted
level,
the
training
academy
they
had
now
can
only
accommodate
about
20
and
they're
down
and
I
think
probably
closer
to
three
times
that
so
they're
doing
the
best
they
can
with
what
they
have
and
they've
had
a
lot
of
retirements.
Recently
last
year
and
this
year,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
senior
officers
go
and
even
some
young
officers
that
just
came
out
of
the
Academy
rank,
but.
J
There
is
a
plan,
you
know
that
we're
moving
forward
to
trying
to
find
a
better
space-
and
you
know,
still
watch
over
time,
I'm
still
trying
to
boost
morale
when
we
can-
and
some
of
those
events
are
at
least
partially
covered
by
Green
like
a
CDA,
will
cover
school
this
missile
and
pop-up
events.
So
not
all
that
stuff
is
a
direct
cost
to
the
city.
C
I
F
This
one
laughs,
basically
over
time
we
don't
increase
the
over
timeline
to
reflect
changes
in
salary
or
from
coordination
and
their
arbitration
agreements.
So
when
you
have
you
know,
because
what
you
pay
no
time
is
based
on
the
salary
you
have
to
pay
it
so
Saturday's
go
up.
We
have
an
increasing
over
time
butcher,
so
sometimes
it's
a
moving
target.
So
second.
C
D
M
Water
partners
there.
G
E
K
D
J
G
D
B
D
K
K
You
know:
there's
240,
firefighters,
that
work
on
given
apparatus
and
those
apparatus
have
a
level
of
their
staff
and
a
level
that's
they're
minimally
required
to
be
banned
at
so
we
can
tell
based
on
how
many
people
we
have
higher
what
are
over
times
expected,
and
so
that's
but
that's
different
from
police.
Then
we
have
special
shifts.
They
have
to
pick
up
at
core
or
makes
them
some
calls
only
having
to
stay
late
for
like
arrest,
paperwork
or
things
like
that.
But
fires
fires
much
more
simple.
The
most
predictable.
K
So
with
that,
we
we
did
hire
a
class
in
2018
by
the
time
that
we
actually
ready
based
on
screening
applicants.
It
was
around
October.
The
peak
overtime
for
the
fire
department
is
over
the
summer
when
most
of
them
are
taking
their
vacation.
So
we
decided
from
a
budget
standpoint.
We
didn't
want
to
take
on
the
cost
of
hiring
a
class,
which
is
you
know,
14
people's
salary
plus
overtime
for
instructors.
Things
like
that
to
have
something
that
wouldn't
help
us
in
2018,
so
we
put
off
until
2019.
K
We
had
done
all
the
calculations.
It
takes
four
months
for
them
to
be
trained,
so
we
were
all
ready
to
go
and
we
had
all
of
our
vacancies
counted
out.
We
knew
it
wasn't
really
going
to
significantly
increase
overtime,
but
when
we
actually
started
the
class
we
had
a
anomaly.
We
had
10
people
out
on
light
duty
from
injuries.
We
also
had
several
people
on
long-term
sick.
Well
enough.
K
K
J
They've
identified,
you
know
a
site,
but
you
know
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
all
sound
from
architectural
standpoint
have
engineers
review
it
and
you
know
you'd
love
to
get
it
along.
You'd
like
to
purchase
a
building,
but
I
think
we're
looking
at
at
least
maybe
perhaps
the
beginning,
and
then
maybe
there's
still
an
option
or
purchase
a
we're.
Gonna
see
what
our
options
are,
but
it's
a
spot
that
they're
familiar
with.
It
should
be
more
than
enough
to
be
able
to
accommodate
what
they
want
to
do
and
then
maybe
some
room
for
growth.
J
J
Wouldn't
be
I
mean
to
catch
them
up,
they'd
have
they'd,
have
a
much
larger
class.
We
were
receptive
to
the
request
a
few
years
ago
and
they
said
we
want
to
leave
zone
five
and
what
the
new
training
academy
he
said.
Well,
obviously,
we
want
to
see
what
it's
gonna
cost.
They
identified,
those
cost,
we
reviewed
it
and
it's
like
yeah.
This
seems
legit.
You
know,
and
the
logic
makes
sense
why
you
want
to
do
this.
They
had
to
retrain
people
that
were
leaving
zone
five,
even
though
we
had
instructors
there.
A
We
wouldn't
be
far
for
public
safety
issue
that
we
need
to
provide
the
authorization,
but
Bill
Trudeau
acknowledged
that
the
traffic
wasn't
going
to
be
using
me,
so
we
can
borrow
for
that.
So
that's
why
I
asked
for
this
particular
breakdown
of
that
we
now
have
folks-
and
this
is
this-
is
updated.
I
think
there
was
some
confusion
over
what
I
was
asking
for,
because
previously
it
did
not
total
4:29
know.
A
A
It's
actually
affiliated
with
a
bond
ordinance
number
from
2017
and
I'm
wondering
was
that
because
of
the
numbering
that
particular
bond
ordinance,
it
strikes
me
as
though
we
authorized
something
like
3
million
dollars
and
you
only
you
are
part
of
it
but
in
the
bands.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
can
trip
us
up
in
terms
of
keeping
track
of
what
our
authorizations
are
out
there
versus
what
is
actually
has
been
borrowed
and
awesome.
The
bar.
We
can
kick
in
yeah.
D
E
A
D
That's
as
a
result,
as
well
as
the
2016
capital
product,
raffles
traffic
signal
replacement.
Those
are
projects
that
we've
gone
down
through
one
of
the
go
back
a
little
bit,
there's
a
little
discussions
that
we've
had
here
for
the
last
three
or
four
years.
You
know
we
continue
to
do
our
job
and
our
roles
in
our
office
with
the
with
the
administration
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
borrowing
monies
that
aren't
expected
to
be
used.
I
don't
have
a
plan
for
or
the
monies
that
need
to
be
used.
D
The
initial
band
list
for
this
year
was
34
about
34
point
1
million
dollars,
but
in
the
court
of
the
course
of
May
and
June,
we
paired
that
back
and
that
included
previous
previous
bands
for
those
amounts,
and
so
they
were
pared
back
for
this
year.
Essentially,
that's
why
I
got
down
to
twenty
two.
Twenty
nine
point:
nine
point
eight.
So.
A
G
D
C
D
Year
we
borrow
those
again
they'll,
be
paid
out
amounts
here
and
the
paid
out
amounts
we'll
see
here.
You
can
see
if
they're,
both
of
the
minimal
as
there's
rules
that
apply
to
you
know
how
much
it
came
down
to
the
course
of
it.
Okay,
then
quite
say
you
have
thirty,
five
thousand
on
a
$75,000
I'm,
sorry,
originally
$120,000.
D
D
A
C
A
D
D
Everyone
here
to
realize
is
that
also
in
part
of
the
discussions
we've
had
over
the
last
several
years,
we've
kind
of
Dell
just
more
deeply
I
guess
with
the
departments
as
to
why
they
make
the
request
that
they
make
in
the
way
that
they
do
it
and
what
we've
figured
out.
That
is,
habits
that
have
come
from.
You
know
a
decade,
two
of
capital
or
we're
number
one.
Some.
D
C
C
D
We
did
the
ban
issuance
that
we
did
is
not
a
12-month
issuance.
It's
a
nine-month
issuance,
so
that's
going
to
become
due
in
March
of
next
year
as
opposed
to
June.
What
that's
going
to
enable
us
to
do
I
think
is
get
us
onto
a
June
bar
I'm.
Sorry
March
bartering
cycle.
You
know
the
money
is
available
sooner
in
the
year.
D
It
allows
the
departments
that
use
life
utilize
that
money,
starting
in
the
spring
time
when
the
projects
get
started,
and
it
want
to
start
the
projects,
as
opposed
to
then
thinking
that
they
have
to
borrow
a
year
and
a
half
out
to
make
sure
they
have
the
money
available
when
I
want
to
start
the
project
next
year.
So
I
think
that's
you
know.
It
then
short
answer
your
question.
I
don't
know,
Nick
might
know,
but.
A
So
you're
developing
the
budget
you're
having
the
conversations
with
the
departments
I
think
a
lot
of
us
would
like
DJs
and
city
engineering
to
use
the
money
were
authorizing
for
Street
reconstruction
ASAP
this.
This
is
what
the
situation
out.
There
is
unacceptable,
I.
Think,
and
you
know
other
people
say
what
they
will
about
it,
but
I
felt
the
need
to
when
I
saw
that
I
was
a
little
dumb.
A
Pendant
I
also
want
to
know,
but
as
I
was
talking
to
DGS
in
a
conversation
pts
about
a
street
that
disintegrated
in
the
last
12
months
but
had
been,
it
was
on
the
horizon.
As
being
an
issue
and
I
was
told
by
the
Commissioner
of
dgs.
Well,
you
cut
our
funding
and
I
was
like
no
being
in.
We
don't
forestry
reconstruction.
We
did
not
and
now
I
understand,
potentially
his
comment,
because
somehow,
rather
the
borrowing
was
cut
for
this,
and
so
we.
D
K
That
there's
going
to
be
a
point
in
time
where,
if
a
department
falls
too
far
behind
on
current
projects,
there's
no
reason
in
looking
at
doing
new
projects
when
they
have
so
many
on
their
plate,
they're,
not
sufficient.
So
that's
what
we're
hoping
that
the
2020
budget
is
going
to
show
us
is
hey.
You
know
what
the
fire
department
has.
You
know
eight
projects
they're
working
on
that
they
still
haven't
done
yet
you
know,
maybe
let's
hold
off
a
new
process
to
try
it.
K
A
You
guys
call
this
to
the
attention
of
the
mayor,
because
cuz
I
would
like
the
mayor
to
make
sure
that
we're
asking
these
questions,
because
she
in
her
office
in
talked
to
Brian
and
David,
about
the
fact
that
the
authorization
is
there
and
the
money
is
not
being
spent
and
the
authorization
is
there.
I.
J
I
know
that
the
mayor's
office
reached
out
to
dgs
and
asked
them
to
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
You
know
to
bring
the
streets
into
a
satisfactory
conditions
and
identify
if
they
need
any
additional
resources.
So
all
right,
if
they
do
you
know,
then
we'll
figure
out
a
way
to
address
that,
but
they
need
to.
Let
us
know
what
they
need
and-
and
you
know
I
won't
wait.
Are
we
going
to
replace
these
if
we
need
to
contract
outside?
Let
us
know
that
I
may
be.
J
C
K
A
A
A
Right
initially,
when
the
bond
the
ordinance
came
out
for
that
special
one,
it
initially
was
drafted
by
corporation
council
to
be
engine.
Nine
and
I
noted
that
I
don't
like
these
silos.
Where
something
now
we
borrow
it
and
would
only
be
used
on
the
roof
or
engine
nine.
So
it
again
we
expanded
it
to
be
renovations
to
city
buildings,
so
that,
if,
if
we
borrowed
the
world
million
dollars,
then
it
could
be
used
on
other
projects.
A
We
don't
like
to
create
too
much
of
a
slush
fund
today
or
that's
not
my
goal
so
I
feel
like
you.
Do
try
to
drill
down
and
get
the
information
make
sure
that
what
we're
being
asked
correlates
to
what
we
can
reasonably
expect
to
be
spent,
but
understanding
they
generally
need
to
go
a
little
bit
over
to
make
sure
that
they
can
cover
any
kind
of
contingencies
on
it,
especially
when
it
comes
to
those
kinds
of
projects.
H
H
A
A
That
fight
comes
Dallas
as
part
of
the
reason
why
that
drove
some
of
the
conversations
that
we
had
about
us
being
up
again,
our
debt
policy
in
terms
of
payments
as
a
percentage
of
budget
it
looking
to
the
future,
essentially
as
well
as
just
this
year,
so
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
know
we
authorized
quite
a
bit
more
than
was
what
was
actually
borrowed
so
that
you
guys
are
having
those
kinds
of
conversations
to
to
not
over
borrow
and
pay
interest.
On
things,
however,
my
one
exception
to
that
now.
B
A
A
You
know,
I
have
I,
have
a
pothole
across
the
street
from
my
house
that
I
have
been
begging,
DJ's
to
fill
and
I'm
literally
hearing
Kesang
Wow
people
audibly
like
like,
hitting
it
and
going
and
and
some
people
spend
stopping
near
the
corner
to
get
out
and
check
the
damage
to
their
car.
It
is
like
that
deep
that
wide
around
and
just
getting
wider
and
I
have
I've
done.
The
secret
fix
thing,
hi
twice
now
and
nothing
nothing's
happening.
A
I
A
J
Think
that
the
biggest
change
is
that
we
have,
we
definitely
have
a
better
dialogue
with
department,
heads
and
there's
definitely
an
understanding
that
we
don't
want
to
borrow
for
anything.
You
don't
reasonably
foresee
yourself
spending
in
the
next
year
we're
trying
to
identify
and
budget.
You
know
based
on
annual
needs
and
plan.
J
D
Project
specific
to
you
know,
there
could
be
reasons
that
you
know
something
happened
somewhere
that
you
don't
know.
You
know
something
I
anticipate,
it
happens
whether
need
happen.
You
know
you
have
to
get
the
delve
into
that
before
you
can
make
any
assumptions
that
this
is.
You
know
just
myself
right,
yeah
that
no
one's
look
at
this
or
you
know
anything
like
that,
while.
A
We're
talking
about
the
capital
budget
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
what
we
have
raised.
The
last
two
years
resolution
talking
about
the
need
for
improvements
to
our
capital
plan
in
our
budget
document,
and
you
know
that
get
us
getting
the
justification.
Some
of
it
has
been
noted
in
the
consultants
reports
with
regard
to
appropriate
I.
J
A
J
J
A
J
The
capital
plan
that'll
be
in
this
year's
budget,
will
satisfy
you
know
any
concerns
you
may
have
had
last
year,
Nick
had
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
redesigning
that
we
took
a
lot
of
ideas
from
Steve
yeah
different.
You
know
the
state
of
New
York
recommendations
from
best
practices
from
other
cities
and
stuff,
so
it's
pretty
solid
and
we're
comfortable
with
it,
and
there.
A
A
You
know,
in
my
opinion,
what
has
been
presented.
The
best
really
it
hasn't
been
complying
with
a
city
charter,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're,
you
know
again,
as
you
percolate
the
idea
going
back
to
that
document,
which
provides
some
guidance
with
regard
to
what
the
city
charter
says,
what
the
OSC
says,
which.
A
Generals
of
the
five-year
capital
plan
a
clear,
general
summary
of
its
contents.
All
we
get
is
dollar
amounts,
nothing
about.
What
are
the
projects?
What
are
you
anticipating
in
and
the
fire
department
does,
can
break
it
down
towards
for
different
kinds
of
apparatus
etc,
but
but
the
improvements
to
city
buildings
there's
nothing
list
of
all
capital
projects
be
undertaken
during
the
ensuing
five
years,
plus
estimates
sources
of
funding
and,
where
appropriate,
recommended
time
schedules
for
completion
of
each
improvement,
and
that
gets
at
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
here
with
you
know.
A
A
C
B
A
Numbers
appear
in
there,
sometimes
in
terms
of
revenue,
without
especially
in
terms
of
revenue,
I
think
without
there
being
further
analysis
of
what
is
how
that
number
was
arrived
at.
So
some
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
then
grill
Mike
on
when
he
comes,
you
know,
you
know
why
sales
taxes
that
was
different,
I,
don't
think,
I've
seen
that
why
you
know
why
retirement
numbers
you
know
have
had
buried
in
some
cases
we
have
an
issue
with
what
categories
things
wind
up
with.
A
So
when
something
is
in
a
different
category
from
year
to
year,
we
are
not
getting
an
explanation
that
that
is
not
an
increase
really
in
that
category,
except
where
we
shifted
some
expenses
from
you
know
from
one
place
to
another.
The
pilots-
and
you
know,
we've
had
some
discussions
about
about
that
gone
forward.
So
there's
some
of
that
kind
of
thing.
A
I'm
glad
to
you
know,
meet
with
you
and
Mike
and
whoever
to
talk
bit
more
about
that
it
can
you
know,
that's
my
octopod
observations
about
some
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
really
the
assumptions
underlying
the
budget.
I've
noticed.
Other
cities
do
have
more
information
regarding
that
and
how
projections
are
being
made
so
yeah.
J
I,
wouldn't
disagree
to
that
I.
Think
a
lot
of
cities
have
less
as
well.
I
mean
it's
just
a
matter
of
preference.
I!
Guess
that
you
know,
as
presented
by
a
palm
in
regard
to
the
Charter
and
stuff,
you
know,
will
definitely
address
anything.
That's
required
in
there
in
terms
of
the
capital
plan
and
any
other
information.
L
E
A
A
L
Wild
back
and
announce
in
a
committee,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
it
to
your
attention
because
I
think
the
people
in
the
finance
it's
important,
that
your
questions
get
answered
about
it
and
I
wanted
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that
for
you,
so
it
doesn't.
This
is
not
something
that
cost
the
city
money
at
all
right
and
it
will
save
the
city
money.
What
it
does
is
it's
for
residents
of
small
businesses.
The
idea
is
that,
by
joining
with
other
communities,
you
want
to
do
this.
L
We
create
a
kind
of
a
buyers
club
for
electricity,
and
so
we
can
negotiate
a
fixed
rate
for
let's
say
a
two
year
or
a
three
year
contract.
That's
up
to
it's
up
to
the
municipalities
who
perform
the
aggregation
to
decide.
I
think
what's
important
is
that
it
basically
would
accomplish
two
things:
it
the
idea
that
would
help
to
save
residents
money
by
locking
in
rates
at
a
rate
that
is
lower
than
the
previous
year's
national
grid
average
rate
all
right
see.
L
So
we
can
reach
our
green,
our
energy
goals,
reducing
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
the
city
and
helping
the
state
reach
theirs.
That's
why
it's
supported
by
NYSERDA
the
Public
Service
Commission
with
potentially
saving
residents.
You
know
five
to
ten
percent,
and
then
we
can
also
help
save
residents
an
extra
10%
off
their
bill
by
helping
them
join
a
community
solar
which
you
can
do
in
tandem
with
the
Community
Choice
aggregation,
it's
easier.
When
you
have
everyone
in
a
big
group,
because
then
they
can
it's
easier
to
get
them
to.
L
Also
add
that
extra
10%
on
so
yes
I,
know,
there's
tons
of
questions
about
this,
because
it's
involving
electricity,
which
is
extremely
complicated
in
New,
York
State,
and
it's
also
involving
an
energy
supply
company.
And
if
you
have
personally
signed
up
with
an
energy
supply
company
like
I,
have
and
like
we
were
talking
about
it
before
they
tend
to
charge
more
than
National
Grid
yeah.
L
G
L
Is
there
a
way
I
can
answer
some
questions
either.
I
just
want
to
offer
that
if
people
want
to
meet
with
me
and
I
didn't
want
to
let
you
know
that
communities
are
now
moving
forward.
Bethlehem,
New,
Scotland,
Guilderland
roarsville
is
interested
in
Knox's
interests.
Miska,
Yuna
and
Saratoga
screams
been
waiting
around
for
a
long
time.
They
already
approved
it
so
they're
moving
ahead.
That's
why
I
know
that
moving
forward,
and
we
don't
at
least
start
to
look
at
it
as
an
option.
L
A
So
when
the
plan
just
to
briefly
answer
your
question,
so
when
the
planning
committee
takes
that
up
all
council
members
can
attend
those
meetings,
we
can
ask
Michelle
to
provide
your
contact
information
to
all
the
council
members
if
they
want
to
have
individual
dialogue,
but
until
it
appears
on
that
particular
committee
agenda,
I
don't
expect
that
we
will
be.
You
know
the
Finance
Committee
will
be
taking
it
up.
We
would
I
wouldn't
be
quite.