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Description
The Committee reviewed Resolution 68.72.20R. Resolution 68.72.20R require the city to replant trees if a tree has been removed. Residents can request to have the city not replace a tree if it is adjacent to their property.
The Committee also reviewed 2020 1st quarter financial report, 2020 2nd quarter financial report, 4th quarter of 2019 financial report and discuss any budget concerns that may be associate with COVID-19 with Albany City Treasurer, Darius Shahinfar and Budget Director Mike Wheeler.
A
B
B
B
C
Sure
the
short
story
is
essentially
that
the
council
has
to
approve
the
institutions
with
which
we
make
our
investments
of
our
capital
funds
and
our
general
fund
monies
that
they're
not
being
used.
We
invest
monies
in
in
short
term,
sometimes
longer
longer-term
instruments
to
earn
interest
for
the
city.
That's
the
short
story,
the
the
longer
story.
C
This
group
is
night
class,
which
is
actually
a
group
of
municipalities
in
new
york
state,
and
they
have
kind
of
pulled
together,
resources
to
be,
and
then
to
have
an
investment
pool,
and
we
want
to
be
allowed
to
join
that
investment
pool.
Should
it
be
worthwhile
for
us,
from
an
interest
rate
standpoint,
to
park
money
into
this
group
as
opposed
to
doing
the
short-term
instruments
that
we
usually
do
t-bills
things
like
that.
C
The
advantage
of
this
is
that
it
is
essentially
keeps
us
very
liquid,
the
the
t
bills,
the
investments
that
we
have
right
now,
the
money's
tied
up
for
anywhere
from
a
week
to
a
month,
at
least
at
this
point.
That's
what
we're
investing
in
this.
We
can
move
money
in
and
out
on
a
daily
basis.
All
credit
goes
to
nick
riley,
who
actually
brought
this
to
our
attention
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
we
realized
that
this
was
a
possibility
in
new
york
state
law.
C
But
it
was
not
something
that
that
the
city
of
albany
was
going
to
be
able
to
take
on
for
itself,
and
lo
and
behold,
within
a
a
few
months,
some
municipalities
got
together
and
did
and
nick
found
them
and
and
brought
them
to
us
earlier
this
year,
and
I
think
it's
a
worthwhile
endeavor
for
us
on
a
bunch
of
different
levels
but
in.
In
short,
this
really
is
just
a
simple
permission
granted
by
the
council
for
us
to
invest
in
this
with
this
group.
B
E
E
In
fact,
there's
only
benefits
to
it,
because
we
have
daily
liquidity
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
darius's
team,
mainly
ken
and
ron,
have
been
investing
in
treasury
bills
and
I've
been
looking
at
how
their
performance
has
been
compared
to
new
york
class
and
actually
there's
been
some
periods
of
time
where
treasury
bills
have
outpaced
new
york
classes
return,
but
because
of
liquidity.
Ken
can't
put
a
lot
of
money
into
those
treasury
bills
because
he
has
to
have
enough
liquid
in
order
to
pay
bills.
E
Make
payroll
things
like
that,
where,
with
new
york
class,
he
can
afford
to
potentially
put
more
in
there
because
he
has
daily
liquidity.
He
can
take
more
out
at
any
day
as
long
as
he
gets
the
information
stem
by
12
o'clock
noon,
but
they
they
don't,
invest
in
anything
that
we're
not
allowed
to
invest
in
it's.
It's
regulated
managed
by
professionals.
B
B
B
C
I'd
love
to
I'll
start
the
2019
report,
the
final
numbers
for
2019
were
pretty
good.
Actually,
we
had
a
surplus
of
a
little
over
five
million
dollars
which
helped
us
get
our
fund
balance
up
to
around
14,
which
is
very
good.
I
would
be
under
normal
circumstances.
I'd
be
very
pleased
right
now.
I
feel
that
we
are
really
on
our
way
to
where
I
want
us
to
be
with
our
fund
balance
and
with
you
know,
budgetarily.
C
You
know
that
being
said,
circumstances
in
2020
have
taken
us
a
little
bit
of
a
different
direction,
which
will
go
over
a
little
bit
more
going
forward.
The
the
the
key
takeaway
I
think
for
2019
was
that
again,
these
were
one-time
events
that
really
that
really
added
up
to
budget
surplus
I've
gone
through
it
in
the
report.
You
know
we
can.
If
you
want
to
discuss
those
more,
we
can.
C
C
I
think,
in
part
because
internet
sales
tax
revenue
has
started
to
come
in
to
a
greater
level.
The
the
I
wouldn't
be
someone
quote
me
on
this,
but
from
what
I
see
it
looked
like,
we
got
about
a
million
dollars
in
internet
tax
revenue
in
2019.,
that's
kind
of
eyeballing,
some
figures.
I've
seen
I've
seen
from
the
controller's
office.
C
We
also
had
insurance
recoveries
and
the
clemens
sale,
the
property
that
brought
those
were
both
one-time
events
and
was
also
helpful
that
the
utility
expenses
decreased
last
year
as
well.
Overall,
you
know
salaries
were
the
salaries
were
up
compared
to
the
year
before,
but
but
largely
within
budget,
with
the
exception,
of
course,
as
always
with
overtime.
C
C
C
C
C
Nothing
too
out
of
the
ordinary
overtime,
of
course,
is
always
the
the
issue.
That's
it's
over
budget.
It
was
over
budget
in
the
first
in
the
first
quarter,
certainly
many
departments
themselves
individually
were
over
budget.
A
lot
of
those
are
the
the
over
budget.
Figures
are
and
have
been
have
proven
to
be
over
the
years
largely
made
up
for
by
savings
and
vacancy
savings
and
vacant
vacant
positions
and
the
money
that
we
don't
expend
on
those
salaries.
C
It's
one
of
the
reasons
why
over
time
is
so
high
or
there's
always
frequently
over
budget,
but
you
know
again
it's
something
that
that
I
think
the
city
is
always
looking
into
and
trying
to
squeeze
as
much
as
possible.
Let's
see
overall
one
of
the
good
things.
Overall,
I
think
on
the
disbursement
side,
is
that
if
you
look
on
the
disbursement
chart,
a
lot
of
disbursements
that
you
expect
to
be
at
about
25
for
the
year
are
already
trending
a
little
bit
lower
personal
benefits
24
rather
than
25.
fringe.
C
C
Yeah
I'll
move
into
the
second
quarter,
then,
because
that's
when
we
start
to
see
this
the
beginning
of
the
effects
of
covid,
fortunately
it
has
not
been
that
dramatic.
In
effect
to
this
point,
one
of
the
benefits
of
of
being
a
city
is
that
our
tax
revenue
comes
in
our
property.
Tax
revenue
comes
in
in
january
and
not
september
like
the
school
district,
so
we
have
been
very
we've
had
a
very
good
tax
property
tax
year.
C
It
has
actually
we're
almost
at
budget
already
with
interest
on
on
property
taxes.
I
think
that's
a
side
benefit
of
that,
and
we
already
we
already
kind
of
pretty
close
to
ahead.
I
would
say
of
where
we
have
been
in
the
past
on
property
tax
collections
at
this
point.
So
that's
good.
That
being
said,
the
effect
of
kobit
was
certainly
seen
in
the
sales
tax
side.
We
we
saw
our
first
big
hit.
C
We
expect
that
to
continue
to
a
certain
extent.
We
just
not
really
quite
sure
at
this
point.
The
deep
dive
that
I
did
into
sales
tax
showed
a
really
steep
decline.
In
april
it
came
back
up.
A
little
bit
in
may
came
back
up
a
little
bit
more
in
june,
but
not
yet
to
where
it
was
last
year.
So
the
trend
is
up
for
sales
tax,
which
is
good,
but
we're
still
really
just
don't
know
how
yet
how
how
much
of
an
effect
it's
going
to
be
going
forward.
C
F
C
A
little
yeah
a
little
bit
more
yes
yeah,
but
that
doesn't
also
there's
also
a
lot
losses
in
revenue
on
other
smaller
items
as
well.
So
but
the
pers
the
savings
on
the
personnel
side
are
definitely
very
helpful
at
this
point.
A
lot
of
that
is
due,
I
think,
to
the
the
hiring
freeze
that
we
had
for
the
first
for
the
last
several
months.
C
C
It's
more
a
timing
issue
of
when
state
payments
are
coming
in
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
state
right
now
to
get
in
at
least
some
of
the
capital
city
funding.
If
that
happens,
we
would
not
have
to
do
borrowing
in
the
next
two
or
three
months
and
then
we'll
have
to
reevaluate
once
november
and
december
come
around
the
other
thing
that
we're
still
the
the
jury
is
still
out
on.
A
C
And
the
lack
of
clarity
from
washington
has
been
really
frustrating
because
local
municipalities
are
in
the
same
boat
all
across
the
country,
but
we
still
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
receive
all
the
caps
of
capital
city
funding.
The
the
governor
was
speaking
about
20
reduction
in
that
as
well
as
aim
and
other
other
items.
So
if
that
comes,
then
we're
really
chopping
away
at
our
revenue
side,
and
we
don't
know
the
extent
yet
at
this
point
how
much
we'll
be
able
to
save
on
the
on
the
expense
side.
C
Although
we've
been
doing
the
best
we
can
to
to
to
cut
back
on
expenses,
so
we're
going
forward,
we're
we're
hopeful
that
the
state
is
is
going
to
be
able
to
at
least
meet
you
know,
certainly
no
worse
than
a
20
cut
in
state
funding.
That's
owed,
that's
still
owed
to
the
city.
We
are
expecting
our
pilot
revenue
from
the
19a
from
the
empire
state
plaza
in
full.
But
again
you
know
it
it's
up
in
the
air
to
a
certain
extent,.
C
D
C
Know
I
don't
think
I
have
yet
we've
been
in
work.
Waste
collection
fee
bill
hell
for
the
last
few
months
last
few
weeks,
so
no,
I
don't
think
I
have
but
yeah.
Believe
you
me.
Actually
I
should
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
make
everybody
aware.
One
thing
is
that
we
had
a
glitch
with
the
waste
collection
fee
bills
where
several
hundred
were
sent
to
old
addresses,
and
while
we've
identified
the
the
issue,
we
have
not
identified
how
it
happened.
C
C
You
know
we're
still
having
issues
with
2019
getting
those
bills
into
the
hands
of
the
correct
people
for
a
whole
host
of
reasons.
I
think,
once
it
went
to
single-family
households,
there
are
so
many
issues
with
the
correct
addresses
and
correct
information
that
we
get
in
in
order
to
generate
a
bill
to
send
out,
and
so
we
still
have.
C
C
You
know
208
linux,
but
they
came
from
63
marsdale
and
the
address
on
file
we
have
is
63
marsdale,
not
208
linux,
and
that
there
there
are
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
those
things
that
we've
been
working
on
to
fix
over
the
last
year,
but
having
having
the
new
world
system
pull
old
addresses
that
we
had
fixed
that
are
not
fixed
on
the
bill.
Now
we
have
to
go
back
in
and
and
fix
the
bills
on
the
work
on
the
waste
collection
fee
bill
side,
it's
extremely
time
consuming.
A
Maybe
it's
more
question
for
well,
both
darius
and
mike
wheeler,
I'm
looking
at
the
slide
that
has
the
projected
2020
shortfall
at
16
million
000,
and
I'm
assuming
that
there
will
be
no
that,
unlike
2019,
there
won't
be
any
cash
reserves
that
we
can
subtract
from
that
right.
So
that's
so
that
almost
17
million
dollar
shortfall
for
2020
is
not
going
to
be
offset
by
anything
right.
B
F
D
Do
with
the
traffic,
except
for
various,
my
heart
bleeds
for
him
and
his
staff.
You
know,
we've
had
a
couple
of
conversations
online
and
whatever
about
the
herculean
effort
that
they've
had
to
go
through,
and
I
appreciate
you
know
the
thank
you,
nuts
and
bolts
of
that
being,
as
he
said,
hell
was
it.
A
D
Me
how
tragic
nightmare
whatever,
but
but
my
question
was
about
about
whether
he
had
issued
a
revised
report
and
the
reason
why
I
was
asking
that
is
because
I
have
printed
out
the
old
report
and
since
I
didn't
see
the
date
changed
in
what
michelle
sent.
I
didn't
print
that
out
and
I
didn't
do
a
comparison.
D
G
D
D
Does
the
54
currently
include
the
second
payment
on
the
streetlight
bonding,
because
darius
had
said
we
were
at
1.7
million
dollars
on
the
first
quarter,
but
we
actually,
as
of
the
end
of
the
second
quarter,
had
not
actually
made
the
second
payment
on
the
streetlight
bonds.
So
I
mean
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
was
asking.
If
you
know
I
had
recommended
that
he
revise
this
report
and
I
told.
C
C
C
C
We
we
may,
but
the
issue
for
us
is
always
it's.
The
cash
flow.
Now
is
a
time
where,
where
it
kind
of
dips,
because
the
our
expenses
are
not
offset
by
the
by
a
huge
influx
of
revenue,
the
way
it
is
in
october,
more
so
november
and
december
when
the
final
big
chunks
of
our
of
our
budget
come
through.
So
no
we're
going
to
try
and
use
you
know
we
don't
want
it.
C
We
don't
want
to
go
out
to
borrow
you
know,
that's
that's
really
not
what
we
want
to
do
so
we're
trying
to
do
everything
we
can
not
to
do
that,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
let
everybody
know
that
that
is
a
possibility
for
where
we're
going
right.
Now
you
know
it's
it's
it's
not
again,
it's
not
what
we
ever
want
to
do
in
part,
because
it's
the
one
thing
that
that
would
really
put
a
reverse
on
our
fiscal
stress,
score
and
also
in
the
markets
as
well.
C
So
we're
doing
everything
not
to
including
you
know
if
the
available
cash
on
hand
is
enough.
You
know
just
because
in
the
you
know,
we
call
it
a
fund
balance
and
we
call
it.
You
know
a
rainy
day
fund.
What
have
you?
It's?
Not
that's
for
accounting
purposes,
not
actually
pots
of
money
purposes.
The
pot
of
money
is
there
in
the
general
fund.
You
know
certain
certain
amounts
of
it.
Are
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
year,
going
to
or
called
fund
balance,
but
during
the
year
it's
all
cash
from
the
same
pot.
C
So
you
know
having
the
cash
on
hand.
Is
the
issue
not
necessarily
where
it's
coming
from?
But
yes,
I
think
one
of
the
discussions
that
we're
going
to
have
with
budget
and
the
administration
is
the
extent
to
which
it's
appropriate
to
utilize.
That
fund
balance
for
this
year
and
and
and
for
budgeting
for
next
year.
D
C
C
Think
albany
county.
I
think
I'm
going
from
memory
here
from
what
I
saw
overall,
the
albany
region,
which
includes
colombia,
rensselaer
saratoga.
All
these
other
counties
is
is
down
by
0.3
that
figure
that
that
you're
talking
about
when
you
broke
it
out
county
by
county.
It
was
quite
a
different
story.
Rensselaer
county
actually
has
shot
up
in
sales.
D
C
D
C
C
C
So
basically
we
would
opt
out
of
that
sharing
system
and
just
take
all
take
it
all
for
for
ourselves.
So
I'm
not
sure
that
the
economics
of
that
work
as
well
for
the
city
as
one
might
think,
but
I
think
the
the
the
covet
change
in
the
retail
situation
you
know
hitting
cross
gates
and
colony
center
and
other
places
as
well
might
make
it
worth
revisiting
down
the
road.
C
One
of
the
things
I've
been
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
and
jeff
neal
at
the
county
who's
who
loves
this
stuff,
we're
trying
to
figure
out.
If
we
can
actually
quantify
that
and
and
see
you
know
if
we
can
actually
get
some
sort
of
share
of
albany
or
you
know
whatever
it
is
centered
internet
sales
tax.
I
believe
I'm
not
I'm
not
100
positive,
that
the
sales
tax
is
collected
by
the
state
and
then
just
kind
of
divvied
up.
C
D
D
So
there's
a
certain
amount
of,
I
think
political
pressure
that
can
be
brought
to
bear
and
it
may
be.
You
know
it
was
one
of
those
things
like
well.
This
sounds
really
interesting,
but
I
wasn't
absorbing
it
all
talking
to
nikon
about
what
power
the
city
has
not
only
just
to
go
it
on
its
own,
but
then
the
impact
on
other
municipalities
in
the
county.
D
A
C
C
A
very
interesting
thing
is
going
to
happen.
It's
going
to
start,
it's
already
started
happening
and
it's
going
to
happen
more
next
year
and
that's
where
the
retail
industry,
the
malls
and
specifically,
all
the
other
stores,
are
going
to
start
grieving
their
assessments,
because
the
loss
in
revenue,
loss
and
sales
revenue
there
are
are
going
to
adversely
impact
their
values
which
are
going
to
severely
hit
the
budgets
of
the
town
of
guilderland,
the
town
of
colony.
In
particular,
you
know
in
the
city
of
albany.
C
You
know,
things
are,
I
think,
are
changing
perhaps
permanently,
and
that
is
really
going
to
devalue
the
office
space
downtown
you
know,
and
but
it
may
offer
opportunities
to
to
repurpose
as
a
lot
of
the
officers
have
done
already
into
into
residential
but
yeah
these
are.
These
are
massive.
Traumatic
changes
are
on
the
horizon,
especially
if
we
don't
get
the
covet
under
control.
G
Yeah,
that's,
unfortunately,
where
we're
at
especially
at
the
federal
level,
still
a
lot
of
unknowns.
You
know
probably
at
least
another
10
days
before
we
get
any
update
from
congress.
But
in
terms
of
your
original
question
about
the
buyout,
I
mean
we're
looking
at
every
option
of
you
know
potentially
available
to
us.
That
is
something
we're
we're
looking
at
running
the
numbers
on
to
see.
G
If
it's
something
that
that
would
help
us
we
have
been,
we
have
been
actively
reviewing
an
increase
to
our
health
insurance
buyout
to
potentially
create
a
savings
there
by
encouraging
people
to
go
on
either
spouses
or
other
family
members,
health
insurance
to
save
us
some
some
money.
So
we
are
looking
at
that
where
that
that
review
is
much
further
down
the
road
than
this.
G
The
latest
proposal
that
the
county
put
forward,
but
we're
willing
to
look
at
anything
and
everything
to
see
if
it's
an
option
that
can
save
us
money
avoid
laying
people
off
so
yeah.
We're
hopeful
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
have
more
information
in
the
coming
days
as
to
whether
that's
something
that
we
think
is
feasible
on
our
end.
D
I
I
just
wanna
note
that
councilmember
robinson
has
a
couple
times
mentioned:
streetlight
savings,
and
where
are
we
with
that
project?
And
I've
noted
that
darius
does
include
information
in
the
in
the
quarterly
reports,
but
it
does
strike
me
as
we're
about
the
point
that
we
would
have
expected
the
project
to
be
winding
up
and
in
terms
of
the
installation
and
the
conversion
to
led,
and
I
just
want
to
note-
I
think
that
that
would
be
something.
D
D
So
I
I
noticed
that
councilman
robinson
was
not
on
so
I
thought
I
would
raise
that
because
it
keeps
on
popping
up-
and
I
think
it's
you
know
an
additional
piece
of
information
that
we
should
have
as
we're
looking
at
things.
Of
course,
of
course,
the
hope
is
that
we've
saved
more
money
than
than
we
projected
and
we
were
going
to
save
on
that.
But
I
think
we.
F
So
we
have
seen
a
significant.
We
have
seen
a
significant
decrease
in
the
cost
of
street
lighting,
certainly
so
that
projection
of
you
know
that
one
to
one
and
a
half
million
seems
to
be
seems
to
be
pretty
much
spot
on
to
this
point,
but
we
can
put
a
a
report
together
for
you
to
show
that
more
vividly
and
as
far
as
where
we
are
with
the
project,
I
actually
did
have
a
meeting
with
naipa
and
chris
spencer
yesterday
and
they
are
about
86
80
complete.
F
F
D
G
D
D
G
D
They're
so
we
started,
we
started
getting
updates,
which
is
kind
of
like
you
know
about.
What's
you
know,
what's
coming
up
in
the
next
two
weeks
kind
of
thing,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
us
have
very
little
idea
of
what
has
been
done.
So
you
know
I'm
wondering
if
there
you
know
can
if
there
is
some
sort
of
easy
report
that
has
that
information
also.
G
Yeah
we
can
get
you
a
total
we
can
get.
We
have
a
just
a
slide
where
it's
the
total
number
of
street
lights
in
the
city,
the
number
converted
the
percentage,
and
then
we
can
give
you
the
the
map
also,
but,
as
mike
said,
it
pretty
much
the
whole
city
in
terms
of
the
the
cobra
headlights,
those
are
converted.
It's
the
decorative,
the
decorative
lights
that
you
see
on
like
state
street
or
new
scotland
ave.
D
So,
with
regard
to
moving
forward
with
the
awful
situation
that
we're
in,
I
know
that
the
federal
bill
that
the
house
passed
not
only
took
care
of
us
for
this
year,
but
also
for
next
year.
That
was
my
understanding.
You
know,
which
was
a
good
thing,
because
that
would
make
planning
for
the
budget
easier.
D
Okay,
we're
going
to
help
municipal
and
state
governments
deal
with
their
crisis
for
this
year
and
then
with
regard
to
next
year.
That's
the
you
know,
that's
part
of
the
other
half
that
we'll
be
dealing
with.
Do
I
have
that
right.
Is
that
your
understanding
of
where
we
are
at
or
what's
been
going
on.
G
I'd
have
to
go
back
to
check
the
context
of
where
speaker
pelosi
said
that,
but
I
do
know
that,
just
generally
speaking
the
bill
that
the
house
passed
would
provide
for
significantly
more
than
what
we
anticipate
losing
in
revenue.
But
it
would
also
part
of
part
of
the
equation-
includes
a
bunch
of
unknowns
and
then
also
you
know
looking
into
next
year.
So
I
mean
that
was
that
was
back
in
may
when
they
passed
that,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it's
all
kind
of
blurry
now,
but
it's
been
a
little
while.
G
G
G
G
G
D
D
D
Does
the
administration
start
making
some
decisions
with
regard
to
real
priorities
as
opposed
to
putting
off
hiring
you
know,
you
know,
I
want
to
say
if
we
have
to
make
cuts,
cuts
in
programming
etc.
When
is
when?
Are
you
guys
looking
at
doing
that,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
have
that
conversation
today.
G
G
D
So
what
is
the
council's
role
with
regard
to
providing
input
in
into
that?
Where
you
make
the
cuts?
For
example,
yesterday,
at
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
david,
you
said
something
about
the
mayor.
Having
said
closing
parks,
and
and
of
course
you
and
I
have
had
this
issue
with
a
lot
of
people
being
up
in
arms
about
leaf
bag,
you
know
pick
up.
I
would
prefer
for
people
to
be
told
leaf
bag.
Pickup
is
going
to
be
every
other
week,
and
just
have
that
be
it.
D
So
much
of
the
time
having
a
quality
of
life,
around
parks
and
playgrounds
and
recreation
seems
to
me
to
be
one
of
the
best
things
for
people's
mental
health
and
showing
that
we
care
about
our
parks
and
playgrounds.
That's
you
know
that
versus
leaf
bag
pickup,
whether
it's
you
know
once
every
two
weeks
or
once
every
three
weeks
or
once
even
once
a
month,
you
know
and
tell
people
keep
it.
You
know
with
the
side
of
your
house
or
in
your
garage
or
in
your
shed
or
whatever.
D
Until
you
know,
this
is
going
to
be
your
day.
You
know
those
are
some
of
the
questions
that
I
think
that
it's
important
for
the
common
council
that
has
is
listening
to
residents
throughout
the
city
that
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
have
some
of
that
dialogue
with
the
administration
about
that
those
choices
and
they're
tough
choices.
G
Yeah
and
and
we're
we're
certainly
open
to
having
that
that
dialogue,
I
think,
just
to
clarify
from
last
evening.
I
I
and
I'm
into
your
point
just
now:
it
the
mayor's.
The
mayor's
overarching
point
was
that
it's
not
in
either
or
you
know,
some
people
were
complaining
about
leaf
bags
and
the
mayor's
point
was
essentially
it's
going
to
be
leaf.
Bags
parks,
potentially
waste
collection
like
we're
talking
about
public
safety,
we're
talking
like
every
aspect
of
city
government
will
be
impacted.
Should
we
not
get
this
federal
aid?
That's
the
same
thing.
G
You
know,
that's
exactly
what
was
said
at
the
at
the
the
press
conference
that
we
had
a
couple
weeks
ago
with
senator
gillibrand
and
congressman
tonko.
Where
darius
spoke,
it's
we
we're
talking
about
cuts
to
every
department,
every
service,
it's
not
a!
I
mean
if
it
was.
If
it
was,
you
know,
picking
between
leaf
bags
being
delayed
and
keeping
a
park
open.
I
think
we
all
agree
like
yes,
we
would
we
could.
We
could
miss
a
week
of
leaf
bag
collection
and
keep
a
park
open.
G
D
D
Oh
so
two
point:
three
million
dollars
was
hiring
freeze,
court
police,
detail
reductions,
so
if
we've
already
saved
3.5
million
dollars
in
savings,
if
if
we
are,
if
we
have
not
expended
3.5
million
dollars
in
the
first
six
months
that
we
would
have
expected
to
for
personnel
costs,
there
is
already
our
savings
that
we
would
expect
from
personnel
costs.
Now
I
know
that
we
had
1.6
million
dollars
that
was
kind
of
an
unknown,
but
that
cuts
into
that
significantly.
D
Also
so
we're
looking
to
cover
a
certain
amount
from
debt
reserve
transfer,
a
certain
amount
from
fund
balance
transfer
a
certain
amount
from
activity
savings
that
are
sort
of
built
in
that
we
we
know
that
we
can
probably
get
to
and
some
of
what
was
transferred
to
cares,
costs
etc.
Which
is
all
great
you
know
I
mean
that's,
so
that's
all
fantastic.
D
B
G
G
So
those
are
projections
for
the
whole
year.
That's
not
that's!
That's
what
we
anticipate
saving
over
the
year
based
on
the
update
as
of
june
30th,
so
I
just
want
to
make
like
that's
not
we
haven't
already
saved,
quote
unquote:
six
million
dollars.
We
plan
on
saving
six
million
dollars
between
over
the
course
of
2020,
based
on
those
actions.
A
D
G
Oh,
but
under
okay,
sorry,
but
mike
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here
mike
takes
mike-
took
the
trends
into
account
when
he
updated
the
june
30
powerpoint
slide
to
reflect
to
reflect
what
he
thought
was
going
to
be
the
the
savings
now
granted.
We're
not
we're
not.
I
don't
necessarily
think
we're
comparing
apples
to
apples
here
either.
F
There
are
with
with
that
that
those
personnel
savings
there
are
larger
players
involved,
like
retiree
health
retirement,
some
of
the
larger
things
that
fluctuate
drastically
through
not
retirement,
but
certainly
the
health
retirement
health.
We
could
be
down
2
million
in
retirement
health
from
budget
or
from
where
we
were
last
year
and
then
get
and
then
get
significant
pickups
later
in
the
year.
F
The
projections
you
want
to
use
are
the
ones
that
I
provided
on
that
line-by-line
sheet
and
that
left
us
with
about
2.1
million
in
additional
cuts
that
we
anticipate
having
to
be
made
to
secure
up
this
year,
and
that
includes
the
anticipated
savings
from
the
hiring
freeze
and
the
spending
freeze
and
some
of
the
other
budgetary
cuts.
I'm
updating
my
forecasts
now
through
current
through
this
week
and
those
trends
seem
to
be
holding
to
this
point.
F
But
it's
it's
it's
difficult
to
take
a
point
in
time
like
off
of
q2
and
say
that's
what
we're
and
just
take
a
straight.
Oh
if
we
saved,
if
we're
down
three
million
at
the
half,
we'll
be
down
six
million
at
the
end.
It's
not!
It
doesn't
work
that
smoothly
because
the
timing
of
various
payments,
so
I
what
I
do
is
I
go
through
everything
line
by
line,
compare
it
to
three-year
actual
history
and
put
a
projection
in
from
that.
D
F
F
F
But
you
know,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
that
bottom
line.
Number
of
that.
You
know
we're
probably
looking
at
two
two
and
a
half
million
beyond
the
use
of
what
we
are
considering
using
for
fund
balance
and
debt
reserve
and
the
freezes
and
some
of
the
other
cuts
that
will
still
need
to
be
met
to
to
make
us
some
balance
for
the
year.
D
B
A
H
H
G
H
G
We
did
okay,
but
keep
it,
but
keep
in
mind
just
to
follow
up
on
that
part
of
the
part
of
our
fiscal
score
is
very
a
big
chunk
of
our
fiscal
strength.
Score
is
contingent
on
our
contingents
or
our
fund
balance.
So
at
that
point
we
were
you
know
again
several
months
ago,
but
we
were
hoping
we
weren't
going
to
have
to
raid
the
whole
the
whole
fund
balance
to.
H
C
A
H
A
H
D
I
I
agree.
I
agree.
I
think
that
the
sales
tax,
because
we're
getting
the
benefit
of
the
internet-
and
I
don't
expect
another-
you
know
complete
shutdown,
no
matter
how
bad
things
are.
You
know
I
expect
that
we're
gonna
see
some
more
pain
in
the
fall,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
we're
gonna
see
another
two
million
dollar
hit
in
one
quarter
on
that.
B
A
B
Thank
you
for
that
david.
I
also
before
we
part
from
each
other.
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
do
an
overview
of
the
budget
timeline
that
was
sent
out
and
touch
base
with
everyone,
and
I
also
wanted
to
kind
of
if
judy,
if
you're
willing.
I
wanted
to
have
you
check
in
with
staff
on
the
five
year
capital
plan
thing,
so
we
can.
B
I
love
her
too
she's
wonderful
has
reached
out
to
everyone
to
get
that
individual
council
member
input,
which
I
encourage,
of
course,
all
the
members
here
and
all
the
members
who
may
be
listening
and
the
comfort
of,
I
guess,
we're
all
in
the
comfort
of
our
own
home,
but
I
think
that's
really
important
to
have
that
individual
input
I'm
going
to
be
oh
judy
you're
on
mute,
but
I
love
what
I
don't
know
what
you're
saying.
But
I
know
it's
good.
B
B
It's
not
going
to
take
the
place
of
the
budget
memo
to,
but
to
kind
of
have
the
council
as
a
whole
put
in
some
things
before
the
budget
is
finalized,
and
then
I
I
think
that
the
finance
committee
meetings
after
the
budget
is
released
has
been
very
helpful
during
september
before
the
budget
is
released.
We'll
do
a
real
check-in
with
the
budget
office
to
kind
of
discuss
the
overall
view
of
the
budget,
any
high-level
revenue
projections.
B
They
can't
they've
told
me
that
they,
you
know,
are
crunching
numbers
to
the
very
last
minute,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
give
anything
hard
which
I
understand,
but
I
also
think
it
might
be
a
good
idea
before
we,
the
more
information
we
can
get
ahead
of
time
and
the
more
input
we
can
have
ahead
of
time,
I
think,
is
a
valuable
thing
mike.
I
see
your
hand
up
go
ahead.
A
A
B
D
A
D
B
B
Audio
nice
to
see
your
face
so
mike
and
nick
and
david
you
all
right.
I
think
it's
mostly
mike
and
nick.
Do
you
guys
mind
talking
a
little
bit
about
the
process,
and
I
just
I
wanted
to
have
a
quick
conversation
about
it
before
we
did
an
overall
meeting
on
it
to
make
sure
that
there
weren't
any
major
points
missing
or
anything
like
that.
B
I
did
send
along
the
link
to
the
osc
guidelines
that
I
have
started
to
go
through,
but
I
have
not
fully
gone
through
yet
full
disclosure,
but
don't
worry,
I
will,
by
the
time
that
meeting
happens
judy.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
kick
that
off.
If
you
guys
don't
mind
talking
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
B
E
And
I
was
gonna
say
I
was
passing
it
on
to
mike
no
I'm
just
kidding
so
we
we
had
talked
about
it
last
year
and
we
had
looked
at
what
other
municipalities
were
doing
and
we
took
a
lot
of
components
that
the
city
of
syracuse
and
the
county
of
I
believe
it's
monroe
in
new
york
do
for
their
five-year.
They
call
it
a
capital
improvement
program
and
we're
going
to
kind
of
model
that
template
it's.
It's
not
too
different
than
the
information
that
we
give
you
guys
already.
E
It's
just
that
it's
all
together
in
one
place,
we're
not
going
to
add
it
to
our
budget
book.
I
think
our
the
at
least
at
least
tentatively.
Our
budget
book
is
going
to
be
in
the
same
format.
This
would
be
a
separate
document
because
right
now,
I'm
working
on
department
narratives
for
their
requests
for
the
five-year
plan,
and
I
think
it's
at
about
40
pages.
So
I
I
don't
think
we
would
want
to
add
that
to
the
budget
book,
but
we'll
definitely
have
it
be
a
separate
document.
That's
done
to
the
council.
E
One
thing
that
I
think
that
we're
going
above
and
beyond
on
that
other
cities
are
not
doing,
is
updating
on
the
status
of
open
project
and
that's
been
especially
with
as
dave
darius
and
mike
talk
about
with
our
situation.
It's
very
important
for
us
to
be
on
top
of
our
capital
projects,
know
which
ones
we
can
close
down
and
have
that
money
available
in
our
debt
reserve
to
be
able
to
use
in
any
situation.
E
But
I
I
would
say
I
and
I
I
know
I
could
talk
to
mike
and
dave
about
this
as
well
as
we.
We
could
send
over
some
departments
that
we
have
done
for
their
five-year
plan
in
the
next
few
days
or
maybe
even
next
week,
just
as
a
template
of
what
it's
going
to
look
like
for
all
the
departments
together
but
yeah,
I
would
say
it's
probably
going
to
be
60
to
80
pages,
all
said
and
done.
E
D
So
I
want
to
know
that
I'm
pretty
sure
I
am.
I
did
not
look
at
the
city
charter
language
in
anticipation
of
this
meeting,
but
the
city
charter
does
require
those
status
reports.
It
is
something
os
the
the
the
consultant
commented
on,
and
it
is
something
not
only
should
there
be
status
reports
for
existing
projects,
but
also
for
any
proposed
projects.
In
terms
of
you
know,
when
is
construction
going
to
start
when
are
vehicles
actually
going
to
be
purchased,
etc?
D
D
B
B
So
I
it's.
I
think
that
if
that's
something
that
you
guys
are
willing
to
do
ahead
of
that
meeting,
then
that's
incredible.
If
not
then
we'll
dig
in
at
that
meeting,
but
I
I
do
think
it's
important
to
have
a
public
meeting
about
this.
I
also
appreciate
that
staff
has
been
working
on
it
so
nick.
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
putting
the
effort
in
because
I
don't
think
this
is
an
overnight
thing.
B
F
We
are
definitely
willing
I'd
much
rather
be
on
the
same
page
going
into
it
then
try
to
be
on
the
same
page
afterwards,
and
so
so
that
document
we
were
thinking
would
be
included
as
part
of
as
part
of
the
budget
and
adopted
with
the
book
this.
It
was
a
matter
of
ease
of
reading.
I
guess
then
trying
to
cram
everything
into
into
one
book,
so
we
can
talk
about
that
too,
but
it
is
all
intended
to
be
part
of
the
of
the
adopted
budget.
D
E
Actually,
judy
to
to
go
into
that,
that
is
included
in
our
our
new
plan,
which,
when
we
do
meet,
I
can
show
you
that,
like
we
have
it
in
there
as
cash
capital
like
that,
will
be
something
that
we
are
looking
at
and
definitely
we
want
to
talk
about
capital
reserve
fund
as
well.
That's
also
an
item
for
discussion,
so
all
those
things
that
you're
talking
about
we're
working
on
and
are
included
in
this
capital
plan.
D
Great,
and
so
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
capital
budget
deserves
to
be
part
of
the
overall
budget,
because,
if
you're
looking
at
what
your
purchases
are
or
your
improvements
are,
that
are
part
of
the
capital
budget,
you
need
to
then
show
those
expenditures
on
the
in
the
operating
budget.
To
the
extent
that
you're
or
I
I
don't
know
what
it's
not
really
the
operating
budget,
because
but
there's
another
name
for
it,
but
the
cash
budget,
as
opposed
to
the
borrowing
budget.
D
B
H
B
G
I
appreciate
that
you
think
that
my
photography
is
glitzy
the
for
the
pay
equity
committee
that
councilman
ballerin
brought
up.
We
I
know
we
and
we've
talked
with
leadership
about
this.
You
know
the
last
couple
months:
we've
we
were
ready
to
put
out
an
rfp.
Then
we
weren't,
we,
you
know
we
we
waited
when
we
thought
we
were
gonna
have
to
make
cuts
and
then
then
we
were
focused
on
hiring.
So
I
mean
I
know
we
we
we
do
want
to
have
that
conversation.