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Description
The Committee reviewed Resolution 6.21.20 (Fahey). Resolution promotes improvements in the law regarding snow and ice removal from sidewalks, street crossings, and bus stops and ensures equity and parity for residents whose primary mode of travel is walking and/or accessing public transportation with those residents who drive vehicles.
B
Okay,
so
we
have
two
general
services
committee
members.
B
Well,
let's
start
we're
here
to
discuss
council
member
fahey's
resolution
6.2120
a
resolution
to
promote
equity
and
pedestrian
safety
and
mobility
by
improving
snow
and
ice
removal
from
city
sidewalks,
street
crossings
and
bus
stops,
and
a
lot
of
this
also
derek
johnson
is
president
he's
a
committee
member.
B
A
lot
of
this,
of
course,
was
touched
on
in
the
meeting
the
caucus
that
we
just
had
with
the
dgs
folks
but
kathy.
Why
don't
you
explain
your
resolution
and
you
know
what
what
we
hope
to
accomplish
with
it.
A
Okay,
so
this
resolution
stems
from
last
year's
snowstorm.
That
was
also
a
very
bad
snowstorm.
I
don't
I
forget
how
many
inches,
but
it
was
well
over
20,
but
it
was
also
a
snowstorm
that
didn't
melt
right
away
and
it
was
it
stayed
on.
A
You
know
it
got
colder,
so
we
ended
up
with
a
lot
of
snow
and
ice
on
walks
and
we
had
mounds
of
snow
on
the
street
corners
and
there
are
a
lot
of
complaints
and
the
delaware
area.
Neighborhood
association.
A
Made
it
one
of
their
issues
and
I
believe
they
wrote
a
letter
to
the
mayor
regarding
the
problem,
and
you
know
we
started
to
talk
about
that
there.
It's
a
it's
a
true
quality
of
life
issue
when
that
happens,
when
there's
mounds
of
snow
on
on
street
corners
and
and
people
property
owners
who
do
not
shovel
or
ice
their
their
walks,
we
have
so
many
people
who
are
disabled
in
some
way
or
another.
A
We
have
senior
citizens,
we
have
kids
who
walk
to
school,
a
lot
of
low-income
folks
who
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
drive
to
work
or
wherever
it
is,
they
need
to
go
and
they
have
to
navigate
these
snowy
and
icy
sidewalks
that
people
aren't
taking
care
of.
A
So
I
started
looking
into
the
issue
and
it
I
noticed
that
some
other
cities,
municipalities
with
who
also
are
up
north
and
have
high
snowfalls
we're
beginning
to
take
a
closer
look
at
the
issue,
and
some
of
them
have
developed
some
pilot
programs
to
address
the
problem.
A
So
I
this
is
a
you
know:
it's
not
an
ordinance,
it's
a
resolution
and
the
idea
is
that
we
should
take
a
closer
look
at
this.
I
think
the
city.
You
know
I've
lived
here
for
many
many
years
now
and
we
have
made
so
much
headway
with
our
snow
emergency
program
and
so
on
and
as
far
as
our
streets,
but
I
think
that
we
have
to
give
a
greater
priority
to
our
walks
and
I-
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
conversations
about
it-
how
we
can
make
that
happen.
A
I
I
know
I
did
talk
to
sergio
and
frank
about
this
last
year
and
we
did
let
I
did
let
it
sit
due
to
the
pandemic
and
so
on,
but
with
this
most
recent
snowstorm,
it
seemed
like.
We
should
really
begin
again
talking
about
how
we
can
begin
to
address
it.
I
also
it's
not
just
the
sidewalks
and
the
street
corners,
but
it's
also
bus
stops.
Cdta,
you
know,
is
doing
their
bus.
A
Rapid
transport
they've
got
all
these
new
bus
stations
they
put
in
snow
melters
in
their
bus
stations,
but
just
to
get
to
the
bus
bus
stops.
People
often
have
to
climb
over
mounds
of
snow
and
all
that,
so
it's
still
an
issue.
I
also
talked
to
people
at
cdtc
and
they
have
done
a
lot
of.
A
They
have
a
lot
of
data
about
pedestrian
walkways
when
they
were
doing
their
bicycle
improvement
plans
and
so
on.
They
have
a
lot
of
data
that
we
could
use
if
we
were
ever
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
begin
addressing
the
city
taking
over
some
making
sure
some
of
our
most
heavily
trafficked
walkways
are
cleared.
But
again
I
I
this
is
a
starting
point
and
I'm
I'm
interested
in
other
people's
input
on
this
and
also,
of
course,
dgs
officials.
A
Input
too,
and
I
know
frank,
you
were
gonna-
do
a
little
research
on
the
issue.
B
I
just
want
to
note
that
we've
also
been
joined
by
council
members,
derrick,
johnson
and
joyce
love,
and
I
guess
my
my
first
question
would
be.
Obviously
you
know
the
mayor
talking.
The
capitalist
transportation
authority
is
a
very
fine
idea
and
I'm
sure
they've
had
ongoing
conversations
and
the
mayor
and
staff's
listening
input
from
the
community
excellent
idea.
I
guess
my
question
is
to
take
the
necessary
steps
to
address.
B
B
So
I
guess
my
question
to
sergio
and
to
joe
glebelhaus
would
be
you
know
how
much
do
you
think
we
should
increase
the
dgs
budget,
for
whatever
equipment
is
necessary
to
do
exclusively
sidewalks
and
whatever
staff
so
that
we
have
that
in
mind
when
the
budget
talks
come
up
or
at
dna?
B
If,
if
it,
because
we
have
another
big
storm
this
season,
if
we
have
to
go
to
ena,
do
we
have
some
sort
of
an
idea
of
estimate
how
much
more
we
should
be
budgeted
either
for
necessary
equipment
or
staff?
For
you
know
addressing
sidewalk
and
bus
stop
and
pedestrian
safety
issues
regarding
snow.
D
Before
you
start,
I
I
want
to
thank
committed
woman
faith
last
year
you
brought
this
up
to
our
religion
and
then
you
we
drew.
You
withdrew
your
you
know.
You
said
you,
don't
guys
don't
have
to
go
that
crazy,
because
a
covid
happened.
I
remember-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
because
we're
like
okay
now,
what
do
we
do?
First?
D
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
a
little
bit
of
a
room
to
breathe,
and
that
was
definitely
worth
it
because
we
did
a
lot
of
research
and
frank
has
brought
things.
This
is
nothing
known,
nothing
that
it's
not
abnormal
northeast.
We
called
syracuse
all
the
different
municipalities
and
we
wanted
to
get
the
feel
as
councilman
o'brien
has
brought
up.
There
is
going
to
be
an
expanse
to
it.
Our
equipment
is
too
large
and
we'll
do
too
much
damage
to
get
into
the
the
but
I'll.
C
Yeah
I'll
I'll,
add
to
that.
Thank
you,
for
you
know
giving
us
the
the
extra
time
to
to
go
through
this.
So
you
had
identified
a
couple
of
municipalities
that
we
should
look
at,
including
syracuse
rochester.
I
think
you
know
there
were.
There
were
a
couple
others
even
I
was
in
wisconsin.
There
was
a
couple
other
areas
that
were
not
necessarily
new
york
state
and
we
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
them
and
what
we
found
was
that
several
a
lot
of
it
was
apples
and
oranges.
C
Okay,
so
a
couple
of
them
were
more
rural
areas
that
had
farming
population
and
the
farmers
would
do
a
lot
of
the
work
in
the
offseason.
Of
course,
we
don't
have
that
it
was
a
lot.
Syracuse
was
the
one
I
focused
on,
probably
the
the
most
and
I
and
I
found
that
you
know
they
tried
it.
They
tried
and
they
put
quite
a
bit
of
money
into
it
as
well.
C
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
250
500,
000
or
something
they
put
into
it,
and
they
were
looking
at
hiring
a
contractor
and
they
did
find
a
contractor.
Okay.
That
did
it.
I
don't
know
one
of
the
things
that
when
I
called
I
I
called-
and
I
spoke
to
somebody,
but
they
they.
I
had
a
bunch
of
questions.
They
said
they
had
to
get
back
to
me
and
they
didn't
get
back
to
me.
Then,
when
I
tried
calling
back
calling
back,
the
guy
didn't
work
there
anymore.
C
So
it
was
a
little
difficult,
but
one
of
the
things
that
that
you
know
we
they
have
on-street
parking
in
syracuse,
but
I
couldn't
get
the
answer
to.
Is
it
the
same
type
of
on-street
parking
that
we
have?
You
know
I
mean
because
that
that
really
is
the
crux
of
it.
A
lot
of
these
municipalities
that
are
more
town
that
don't
have
sidewalks
that
don't
have
on-street
parking.
They
can
do
a
lot
more
removal.
They
can
do
a
lot
more
plowing.
They
can
get
closer
to
the
curb
we
have
those
you
know.
C
C
It
would
not
pull
our
resources
from
having
to
do
it.
Okay,
because
we
could
just
immediately
like
we're
calling
in
these
private
contractors
for
the
purposes
of
plowing
and
for
hauling
snow.
We
would
call
this
contractor
in
almost
immediately
one
of
the
things
of
your
ordinance
talked
about
24
hours
after
the
end
of
the
snowstorm.
C
We
were
looking
for
a
reasonable
time
to
get
these
crosswalks,
these
ada
ramps
as
we're
calling
them
okay,
as
was
what
we're
identifying
as
these
ada
ramps,
to
get
them
cleaned
so
that
you
punching
holes
through
these
piles
and
it
would
have
to
be
done
multiple
times
it.
Wouldn't
it
wouldn't
be
one
time,
because
the
snow
is
always
going
to
get
piled
up
again
and
we're
going
to
have
to
go
through
so
having
a
contractor
on
board
that
did.
C
That
was
what
we
identified
so
joe
put
together
a
very
thorough
big
bit,
spec
that
went
through
every
scenario
and
everything
that
needed
to
be
done.
That
is
out
to
bid
currently.
Okay,
we
have
a
smaller.
This
particular
bid
has
a
smaller
area.
What
we'll
call
maybe
a
pilot
area,
and
that
would
probably
more
than
likely
in
the
future,
be
expanded.
C
We
don't
know
the
extent
of
what
the
cost
is
going
to
be.
We
don't
know
whether
or
not
whether
or
not
we'll
even
get
any
bidders,
but
what
we
solicited.
C
We
solicited
over
40
businesses
and
they
were
snow
contractors,
people
that
we've
used
and
people
that
we
haven't
used
that
we
identified,
even
though
they
may
not
be
doing
plowing
and
hauling,
but
we
did
give
them
to
the
clerk's
office,
and
I
do
know
that
they
are
going
to
to
send
that
out
and
then
we're
following
up
with
some
of
our
contractors
that
we
know
we
do
business
with
to
say:
hey.
We
know
that
you
do
our
streets,
but
you
also
have
you
know
a
couple
of
these
smaller
pieces
of
equipment
to
punch
holes.
C
We
got
a
newer,
a
newer
company
this
year
that
did
some
work
for
us
and
they
talked
about
buying
us
some
equipment
to
do
this,
so
possibly
they
might
bid
on
it.
So
we're
gonna
wait
to
see.
We
need
to
wait
and
see
what
that
comes
back
and
then
we
would
then
have
mike
an
idea
of
what
that
would
cost
us
if
we
could
find
it
in
our
budget
for
an
ena
transfer
to
move
it
this
year
to
cover
the
contract.
C
C
E
There
we
go.
It
is
a
bit
of
a
heavy
lift
in
consideration
of
the
stash
shortages
that
we
have.
I've
done
enough
math
and
research
to
know
that
there
are
3
200,
ada
crosswalks
in
the
city
of
albany.
So
that's
that's.
That
is
a
lot
to
do.
I
calculated
if
we
do
five
an
hour,
you
run
through
all
the
math.
I
need
about
53
employees
to
do
it
in-house,
that's
not
including
the
equipment
shovels.
What
have
you
just
just
to
do
that?
I
need
about
53
people.
E
I
haven't
done
the
analysis,
yet
I'm
still
waiting
for
some
manufacturer
respects
to
give
me
throughput
information.
There
are
some
equipment.
There
is
some
equipment
out
there
I
mean
I'm
sure,
you've
seen
it
in
the
town
of
colony.
It's
called
a
multi-hog
or
a
trackless,
designed
to
go
up
on
sidewalks
and
and
deal
with
these.
These
smaller
areas,
they're
about
two
hundred
thousand.
D
E
Each
and
we
are,
we-
have
it
authorized
to
purchase
one
on
to
give
it
a
try.
D
Well,
the
the
multihockey
is
gonna
be
used.
Also,
it
has
a
dual
everything
that
we
buy.
Now
is
a
dual
thing,
so
if
we
can't
use
it
in
a
crosswalk,
we
can
use
it
on
bridges,
which
is
we
we
won't.
The
money
would
not
be
wasted
right,
you
know
so
our
issue.
There
are
a
couple
of
issues
in
a
couple
of
components
that
I.
F
D
We
understand
we
get
it
one
of
the
issues
when
we
first
started.
This
endeavor
is,
if
we
do
it
in-house,
where
do
we
put
the
snow
that
means
in
some
streets?
You
might
have
to
lose
some
parking
spaces,
because
we
would
have
to
put
the
snow
from
the
crosswalk
into
it
somewhere.
We
can't
put
it
back
to
the
sidewalk,
so
we
would
have
to
put
it
somewhere.
The
other
issue
is,
then
we
would
have
to
haul
it
and
what
the
cost
of
that
was.
So
we
we
have
done.
D
I
think,
a
very
good
due
diligence
in
figuring
out
all
the
different
scenarios
that
we
could
possibly
think
and
we
could
possibly
come
up
with,
because
again
we
want
to
be
efficient
and
we
want
to
be.
You
know
helpful,
not
not
not
losing
parking
spaces
in
an
area.
That's
already
has
no
partner
spaces
to
begin
with,
so
our
best
option
is
for
now
to
to
wait
for
this
specification
to
come
back.
D
I
believe
from
what
I've
been
talking
to
different
vendors,
we're
soliciting
that
the
perfect
job
for
this
with
this
type
of
type
is
it's
a
landscaper
that
has
a
number
of
employees
that
that
during
the
during
the
winter,
they
don't
have
to
do
landscape,
because
it's
now
and
and
they
have
the
small
equipment
they
have
the
small
backyard
equipment
to
get
into
so
we've
been
asking
those
targeted
businesses
to
come
in
and
give
us
a
number
now.
D
D
We
could
celebrate
the
success
or
having
the
sidewalk
done,
which,
through
ceos,
which
we
saw
this
year
with
a
large
amount
of
snow,
only
57
complaints,
because
the
rest
were
all
done.
We
could
grow
from
here
and
and
and
again.
I
I
appreciate
that
we
were
able
to
go
to
syracuse
where
we
go
to
westchester.
D
We
were
able
to
go
to
wisconsin
and
compare
notes
and
say
what
do
you
guys
do
because
they
give
us
a
little
bit
more
of
a
feel
of
what
needs
to
be
taking
place,
but
we
certainly
again
with
the
shortage
of
manpower
that
we
have
now.
We
really
want
to
try
to
form
this
out
and
eventually,
maybe
include
it
into
our
plan,
but
but
for
first
to
get
it
going.
I
think
we're
confident
that
we
can
get
enough
contractors
to
give
us
a
fair
price.
D
B
Okay,
I
wanted
to
answer
the
committee
leah
goldberg's
been
waiting,
I
think
about
an
hour
and
a
half
in
the
public
comment.
Would
you
mind
if
we
take
leah
she's?
Our
only
person
signed
up
for
public
comment?
I
think.
Did
the
other
committee
members
mind
hearing
from
leah
before
we
ask
any
more
questions
to
the
dgs
staff.
G
B
Is
so
okay
leah?
Do
you
want
to
go.
F
Sure
sure
thanks
so
thank
you.
I
I
didn't
want
to
cut
anyone
off.
I
just
wanted
to
be
sure
you
knew
I
was
here
so,
but
so
thanks
for
coming
to
me
and
I
really
appreciate
hearing
from
dgs
staff
on
this.
They
know
that
I've
been
talking
to
them
for
11
years,
about
snow
on
sidewalks
and
and
we've
come
a
really
long
way.
I
mean
when
I
first
came
to
albany
as
a
college
student
in
1986.
F
I
was
shocked
at
the
state
of
the
sidewalks
in
this
city
when
it
snowed.
I
did
not
understand
how
this
city
could
function,
because
you
could
not
walk
on
main
streets
like
lark
street,
so
it's
it
has
gotten
so
much
better
over
the
years,
and
you
know
the
folks
and
it
really
has
gotten
better
like
I'm,
not
just
saying
it.
F
It
has
gotten
better
over
the
years,
but
there
is
still
work
to
do
and
I
was
so
glad
to
hear
that
you're
looking
at
the
ada
ramps,
because
I
think
that
has
got
to
be
the
priority.
Sidewalks
are
important,
but
the
80
you
know
all
sidewalks
have
to
be
clear.
That's
absolutely
right,
but
we
all
know
what
happens
to
the
ada
ramps,
that
is
the
corners
wind
up
getting
plowed
in
over
and
over
again,
and
they
are
the
hardest
parts
to
maintain
for
property
owners.
F
So
I
think
that
really
is
a
great
place
to
start
and-
and
I
I
came
in
here-
not
knowing
that
you
were
actually
thinking
about
doing
something,
so
I'm
just
I'm
personally
thrilled
right
now
that
you're
actually
talking
about
taking
action.
That
will
you
know,
I
think,
really
move
us
really
move
us
forward
in
a
positive
direction,
because
this
absolutely
is
while
councilmember
feige
said
it's
a
quality
of
life
issue.
It's
a
public
safety
issue.
F
Right
I
mean
the
bottom
line
is,
and
I
think
everybody
here
agrees
that
a
person
in
a
who's
riding
in
a
vehicle's
life
is
no
more
important
than
a
person,
a
person
who
has
to
walk
or
take
public
transportation.
So
you
know
this
is
an
equity
issue.
This
is
an
ada
compliance
issue
and
it's-
and
I
just
you
know-
thank
you
for
doing
this
and
that's
it.
H
So
I'm
a
little
confused.
I
want
kathy
to
go
back
and
explain
to
me
because
I
came
out
kind
of
late,
so
I'm
asking
you
to
go
back
and
explain
to
me
what
this
resolution
is
about.
A
Well,
it
is
to
you
know:
we've
made
our
streets
a
priority
as
far
as
plowing
them,
and
I
think
we
do
a
good
job
plowing
our
streets,
but
a
lot
of
our
a
lot
of
our
residents
don't
drive,
but
they
still
have
to
get
to
work,
get
to
school,
get
the
doctors
off,
they
have
to
do
their
business,
and
you
know
it's
difficult
after
a
large
snowfall
like
especially
like
the
one
last
year
that
that
stayed
on
the
ground
for
a
long
time,
so
we
had
mounds
of
snow
at
the
street
corners.
A
We
had.
We
had
walks
that
weren't
shoveled.
It
was
icy,
and
so
I
do
see
it
as
an
equity
issue,
quality
of
life
issue.
They
also
see
it.
As
you
know,
it's
an
economic
issue
too,
because
people
come
to
the
city
of
albany
to
live
because
they
love
the
walkable
neighborhoods
and
a
good
part
of
the
year.
If
we've
had
a
lot
of
snow
throughout
this
the
winter,
it's
you
know
it's
difficult
to
get
around
and
that's
a
turn
off
for
people.
So
that's.
A
And
you
know
frank-
and
I
don't
know
when
you
came
in
joyce
but
frank
and
sergio
have
begun
looking
into
this
issue,
and
you
know
the
possibility
of
a
pilot
program,
they
put
out
a
bid
for
co,
a
contractor
to
perhaps
come
in
and
do
certain
high
use
walkways.
G
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
of
this
resolution.
You
know,
you
know
you
see
something
you
have
to
say
something
right
like,
and
I
believe
that
this
type
of
resolution
is
the
type
of
resolution
that
calls
for
action
as
particularly
when
you
look
at
it
from
an
equity
lens
on
how
we
clear
up
the
roads,
how
we
clear
up
the
sidewalks,
how
we
clear
up
the
bus
stop.
G
So
I
want
to
thank
the
sponsor
for
doing
that,
but
also
have
us
a
question
more
so
for
dgs-
and
this
is,
is
there
any
type
of
coordination
between
the
school
district
and
dgs
when
we
have
a
huge
snowfall
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
this
is
again
the
the
district
that
I
represent
is
a
walkable
neighborhood
and
many
of
the
kids
walk
to
pine
hills
elementary,
and
I
get
some
calls
and
sometimes
as
much
as
I
I
enjoy
blaming
the
school
district.
G
If
there's
a
street
that
is
ours,
I'll,
say,
okay,
is
this
the
city
of
albany?
So
I
just
want
to
know
during
these
type
of
big
snowfalls.
Is
there
any
type
of
coordination
between
the
school
district
or
making
sure
that
the
sidewalks
are
cleared
so
a
student
doesn't
have
to,
you
know,
walk
in
the
road
to
get
to
school?
So
I
just
want
to
ask
that.
Thank
you.
C
No,
no
real
coordination
with
the
school,
except
for
they
expect.
You
know
the
city
to
do
it
and
obviously
the
residents
to
do
it.
You
know
so.
Let's
say
that
we
have
a
snowstorm
and
they
allow
the
kids
to
go
back
to
school
the
next
day.
You
know
the
law
says
24
hours,
so
the
resident
you
know
it
all
depends
on
the
the
the
resident
and
how
they
feel
about
getting
their
snow,
their
snow
shoveled
and
how
quickly
and
that
can
impact.
C
Obviously,
the
student,
that's
walking,
I
mean
it's
a
real,
it's
a
real
issue
and
there's
times
when
we've
had
issues
with
the
the
them
with
the
school
district,
even
doing
the
stuff
they're
responsible
for
you
know-
and
you
know,
I'm
speaking
for
you
know-
23
23
years
being
here
and
dealing
with
the
school
district
and
trying
to
you
know
we
used
to
have
a
good
working
relationship
with
their
with
their
maintenance
people
and
what
I
understand.
C
H
Yeah,
because
when
I
used
to
drive
sorry
when
I
was
used
to
driving
school
bus-
and
we
wouldn't
stop
on
the
corners
for
the
kids,
because
the
snow
was
on
the
corner
and
the
kids
were
standing
on
top
of
the
snow
banks,
we
wasn't
allowed
to
stop
by
the
snow
banks
to
pick
up
the
kids
because
it
was
unsaved.
So
a
lot
of
times
we
used
to
just
leave
the
kids
or
go
back
around
the
corner.
H
D
Yes,
right
I
mean
if
they
do,
if
they
do
that,
crosswalks,
that's
four
or
less
that
we
have
to
do
correct
you
think
about
it.
You
know
they
do
the
two
sides
plus
the
two
across
but
as
frank
said,
I
I
think
they're
very
financial.
G
H
But
but
sergio
this
goes
way
back
before,
with
the
school
district
yeah.
D
H
Yeah
I
blame
the
school
well,
we
won't
get
into
that,
but
this
go
way
back
before
kovac.
I
drove
the
bus
for,
like
maybe
eight
years.
I
Thank
you
very
much
first,
I
do
want
to
say
you
know
I'm
I
I
moved
to
albany
in
1975
for
the
first
time
and
it
was
unreal
what
we
were
dealing
with
back
then
in
terms
of
snow
removal
and
icy,
sidewalks
and-
and
I
share
leah
leah-
might
not
have
even
been
born
back
then.
I
But
but
I
I
share
her
dismay
at
having
moved
here
and
having
experienced
that,
and
I
want
to
say
things
are
so
much
better
and
I
really
do
appreciate
it
and
your
folks,
sergio,
I'm
sure
will
recall
me.
I
You
know
bringing
my
garbage
can
out
to
the
street
and
saying
thank
you
when
I'm
down
at
woodlawn
park,
helping
them
throw
bags
into
the
the
garbage
truck
if
it
happens
to
to
be
there
helping
them,
throw
the
sticks
into
it
and
thanking
them
for
their
work,
the
street,
sweepers,
etc
the
thumbs
up
all
the
time.
I
do
appreciate
very
much
all
the
workers
and
how
they
make
our
lives
better
every
single
day
of
the
year,
but
I
also
worked
for
the
department
of
health.
I
When
smoking,
you
know
was,
you
know,
allowed
every
place,
and-
and
there
are
some
things
that
people
over
time
take
for
granted-
that
you
need
to
be
asking
the
questions
and
leah
has
done
a
great
job
during
her
years
on
the
council
of
pushing
this
issue
of
walkability,
and
how
do
we
make
it
more
walkable
and
I'm
somebody
you
know
even
20
years
ago?
I
Wasn't
you
know
so
firm
on
my
feet
and
now
you
know,
I'm
happy
that
so
many
people
are
more
conscious
of
their
obligation
to
clear
their
sidewalks
over
time
and
that
there's
been
an
elevation
of
this
discussion
and
what
we
do
about
it.
I
also
when
my
residents
are
complaining
to
me
within
24
hours
of
the
snowstorm
I'm
like.
Unless
you
really
have
to
go
out.
I
I
think
everybody
really
needs
to
stay
in
and
in
these
covered
days
we
have
a
great
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
people
to
work
remotely
and
then
what
I
tell
them
is,
instead
of
using
your
car
rely
on
cdta
go
get
on
the
bus.
I
know
you
don't
do
that.
All
that
often
you're
used
to
being
in
your
car
but
go
get
on
the
bus.
Well,
then,
the
challenge
is:
how
do
you
get
to
the
bus?
I
Well,
my
husband
and
I
live
on
a
corner
lot
that
is
very
close
to
new
scotland
elementary
school.
We
make
sure
that
that
path
is
cleared
and
that
the
school,
in
addition
to
our
own
crosswalk,
but
that
crosswalk
you
know
four
houses
up-
is
cleared
most
of
the
time
any
time
they
are
seen
as
something
more
than
two
or
three
inches.
I
I
don't
know
if
my
husband
did
it
today,
but
that
is
something
to
help
everybody
all
the
kids
get
to
school
and
to
be
able
to
help
people
get
on
a
bus,
but
I
know
I'm
kind
of
crazy
about
those
kinds
of
things
and
we
don't
expect
everybody
to
necessarily
be
doing
that,
and
I
did
tell
you
about
the
challenges
and
I
want
to
say
I
was
I'm
shocked.
I
I
yeah
when,
when
you
guys
were
kind
of
pushing
me
off
saying
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
this
in
this
meeting,
I
had
no
idea
that
you
guys
are
actually
exploring
and
looking
at
how
do
we
focus
on
these
ada
ramps
and
I'm
thrilled
I'm
absolutely
thrilled
that
you
are
looking
at
doing
this,
and
one
of
the
things
I
have
thought
about
is:
should
we
be
creating
some
sort
of
improvement
district
with
special
assessments
for
people
who
live
along
some
of
the
thoroughfares
to
have
contractors
actually
clear,
all
the
all
the
sidewalks
along
new
scotland
avenue
along
western
along
in
some
of
the
major
places,
but
then
it
does
kind
of
get
to
be
a
little
unfair
to
to
burden
those
property
owners
and
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
take
care
of
the
snow
removal
but
you're
going
to
pay
the
price
when
really
the
whole
intent
is
to
benefit
everybody.
I
You
know,
wouldn't
it
be
great
if
we
became
known
as
the
city
where
we're
really
truly
walkable,
and
we
have
figured
out
both
the
enforcement
against
homeowners
and
doing
that
kind
of
issue,
and
also
these
crosswalk
and
bus
stop
kinds
of
issues.
That
would
be
great.
So
I
do
support
the
resolution
and
I
just
want
to
chime
in
and
say
I'm
thrilled
and
thank
you.
C
Let
me
just
say:
let
me
just
say
this
judy,
though
everything
is
on
the
table,
all
right,
it
will
be,
as
joe
said
he
says.
Would
you
say
54
joe
54
positions?
If
we
were
to
do
this
ourselves
and
if
we're
already
down
20
something
for
the
storm,
you
know
you're
you're,
you
know
you
really
need
70,
you
know
it's
just.
C
It
could
have
a
very
hefty
price
tag
to
do
it
ourselves
if
we
were
to
do
the
entire
city,
if
you
do
just
portions
of
the
city
like
we'll,
probably
look
to
do
a
pilot
in
the
beginning,
but
if
you
just
do
it
does
that
become
an
equity
issue
that
that's
not
fair,
you
know
because
everybody
needs
to
walk,
not
just
in
the
commercial
districts,
so
we're
gonna
be
looking
at
a
lot
of
things
and-
and
you
know
that's
why
this
it
takes
time.
I
C
I
And
we
now
take
it
for
granted
and-
and
I
understand
and
and
frankly,
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
suggest
to
me
about
this
whole
idea.
Why
don't
we
do?
What
burlington
does
why
don't
we
do
with?
I
think
it
was
rochester
that
other
people
mentioned
where
the
city
actually
does
it
and
I'm
like
I,
you
know
the
problem
is
to
have
enough
staff
to
do
all
of
that
and
do
it
within
a
couple
days.
I
I
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
understand
how
that
would
happen,
and
then
people
complain.
People
complain
right
now
about
how
we
do
the
the
streets.
Now
we'll
have
people
complaining
about.
You
know
the
sidewalk
in
front
of
my
house
isn't
shoveled
or
whatever
it
happens
to
be.
So
I
have
discouraged
people
from
thinking
along
those
lines
because
I
think
we
get
the
job
done
quicker
with
regard
to
most
sidewalks.
I
If
we
have
the
burden
beyond
property
owners,
and
we
have
them
understand
that
they
need
to
do
that
or
they
could
be
fined
and
have
the
city
come
along
and
do
it,
but
but
these
but
the
corners,
the
crosswalks.
I
The
problem
is
not
so
much
just
the
corners
because,
like
I
say,
a
lot
of
people
in
my
neighborhood
are
doing
right
down
to
the
curb
and
maybe
even
a
little
bit
beyond,
but
then
the
crosswalks
aren't
necessarily
clear,
so
and
and
then
the
snow
does
get
piled
back
up
in
these
ada
ramps.
So.
B
Do
any
other
council
members
have
questions
comments?
Okay,
cathy,
cathy.
A
Yes,
I
I
just
you
know
this
is
great
that
this
that
you
put
a
bit
out
and
that
we,
you
know
we're
going
to
begin
to
look
more
closely
at
this.
I
just
want
to
say
again
that
if
we
did
look
at
a
targeted
area
like
you're
talking
about,
we
could
get
some
help
in
from
cdtc
and
help
determining
what
that
area
might
be,
because
they
do
have
the
information
about.
You
know
the
most
heavily
traveled
walkways.
A
A
You
know,
I
think
people
would
understand
when
you
make
that
decision,
you're
going
to
start
on
a
small
area
and
do
major
pathways
so,
and
I
also
think
I'd
like
to
at
some
point-
maybe
we
could.
I
mean
because
really
cdta
should
be
part
of
this
conversation
too,
and
you
mentioned
the
school
district.
So
maybe
there
are
some
other
partners
here
who
could
give
us
some
input,
important
input
on
how
to
proceed.
B
G
D
And
again,
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
I
thought
somebody
won't
do.
I
have
a
hands
up,
but
I
just
want
to
you
know:
let's
start
walking
before
we
run,
let's
see
what
the
contra
what
this
brings
out.
We
also
have
to
look
at
different
things.
One
of
the
things
we
looked
at
is,
I
know
joe
looked
at
montreal.
D
G
D
You
know
this
is
not
just
one,
take
a
look
and
clean
up
the
snow
and
make
it
accessible
it's
a
comprehensive
plan,
but
we
need
to
begin
to
start
with
see
what
it,
what
the
options
are,
minimally,
what
the
costs
are
and
then
grow
from
there.
So
we
welcome
the
suggestion
and-
and
we
certainly
you
know,
look
at
to
do
you're
right
and
our
next
meeting
djs
meeting.
We
might
have
to
bring
another
meeting
to
get
the
results
from
those
from
those
openings.
A
C
If
we
have
successful
bidders,
we'll
then
go
through
it
we'll
go
through
with
a
fine-tooth
comb,
make
sure
that
it
meets
all
of
our
specifications
and
then
we
would
look
and
see
what
the
prices
are
now.
The
way
that
joe
structured,
this
bid
is
it's
an
hourly
thing,
correct
joe.
It's
hourly.
C
So
we
won't
know
to
mike's
point.
We
won't
know
how
much
money
is
going
to
be
needed.
We
can
try
to
take
a
storm.
I
don't
know
that
we
use
gale
as
the
storm
right.
I
don't
think
we
used
that
storm
because
it
was
huge,
but
maybe
you
do
maybe
we
decide
to
use
that
as
a
thing
and
do
a
what?
If,
if
we
had
to
clean
the
sidewalks
that
we're
going
to
identify
or
the
the
ramps
we're
going
to
identify,
they
have
to
be
cleaned
based
on
their
price.
C
D
Discussion
also
has
to
be
do
we
want
to
implement
this
every
snowstorm,
or
do
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
up
to
six
inches?
You
know
that
also
drives
the
cost
down.
I
mean
one
or
two
inches
of
snowstorm.
I
don't
think
is
an
issue,
but
at
12
20
26.5
is
an
issue,
so
we
need
to
set
some
parameters
and
say
all
right
after
10
inches
of
snow.
D
Yes,
we
will
do
this
crossbar,
so
those
are
all
things
that,
but
but
at
least
we
got
the
ball
rolling
and
at
least
we're
talking
it
and
bring
it
to
the
forefront
and
see
where
these
things
are,
but
I'm
excited
about
it,
I'm
looking
to
to
to
to
to
bring
this
to
you
know
to
the
comm
and
and
and
and
show
them.
So
this
is
what
can
be
done.
I'm
excited
about
it.
Okay,.
I
C
It
would
need
specialized
equipment
to
do
this.
I
mean
if
you're
gonna
go
into
these
ada
ramps
with
these.
These
piles
you're
gonna
need
some
sort
of
equipment
to
punch
into
this
into
this
and
clean
it.
If,
let's
be
honest,
if
shovels
were
good
enough
to
go
through
this,
these
areas,
all
right
if
shovels
were
good
enough,
we
wouldn't
be
having
this
conversation,
because
more
residents
at
the
corner
could
do
it,
and
I
know
firsthand
because
we've
dealt
with
dealt
with
that
program.
C
They're
not
allowed
to
use
any
heavy
equipment-
okay,
even
if
we
provide
and
then
if
we
had
to
provide
it,
we'd
have
to
be
on
site
to
drop
it
off,
and
you
know
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
achieved
with
ceo,
because
they're
doing
some
sidewalk
cleaning
for
us
they're
doing
where
they
might
use
a
snowblower,
possibly
where
they're
doing
a
lot
cleanups,
where
they
need
mowers
and
things
of
that
nature.
We
provide
them
with
it.
C
They
they
have
their
own
trailer
and
we
provide
them
with
tools
that
they
borrow
from
us,
basically
that
they,
we
loan
them
for
the
for
the
season
and
they
go
out
and
do
it
but
they're
fully
their
their
grouping
is
fully
responsible
for
it.
They've
got
a
supervisor
with
them
at
all
times,
so
using
the
the
the
per
the
prisoner
so
to
speak
are
great
great
idea,
because
they're
good
workers,
I
mean
I've,
seen
some
of
them
some
of
those
workers.
C
B
B
G
Make
a
motion
I
like
to
make
a
motion
to
move
this
resolution
out
of
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
I
suck
in
it.
B
Okay,
any
discussion
on
that
or
are
we
ready
for
a
vote
all
in
favor.
B
Okay,
it
looks
like
unanimous
for
the
committee
members
here,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
we
do
appreciate
the
work
that
general
services
does,
even
though
maybe
we
maybe
need
to
be
more
vocal
about
it,
but
I
know
it's.
I
know
that
last
storm
was
a
big
hassle
and
and
even
this
recent
storm,
I
you
guys
were
right
around
the
place
on
my
street
and
neighboring
streets.
So
we
appreciate
it,
but
I
think
this
is
good
and
I'm
glad
you
guys
have
done
your
homework
and
I.
D
A
I'll
come
in
I'll
I'll
reach
out
to
probably
you
or
frank
and
just
see
where
you're
at
right.
D
A
C
C
Right
exactly
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
to
discuss,
so
you
know
again
we're
going
to
need
to
have
another
meeting
to
discuss
that
when
we
find
out.
C
C
March
mid-march,
I
would
say
in
march,
okay,
that
gives
us
a
couple
of
weeks
to
make
a
decision
and
award
it,
and
we
can
have
that
conversation
at
that
point:
okay,
okay,
okay,
well,.