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Description
The Committee reviewed Ordinance 24.101.20 that increases the requirement that Contractors throughout the project strive to increase to 25% utilization of Minority and Women Labor hours.
B
Okay,
great,
I
want
to
welcome
everybody
to
this
meeting.
This
is
a
meeting
of
the
human
resources
human
rights
committee.
B
So
I
would
like
to
call
to
order
this
meeting
on
wednesday
november
the
18th
we're
here
to
discuss
ordinance
24.101.20,
which
is
an
ordinance
admitting
paragraph
1
of
section
48,
that
17
of
the
article
of
chapter
article
2
of
chapter
48
of
the
code,
the
city
of
albany,
increasing
the
minority
and
women
labor
utilization
plan
for
contracts
from
17.8
percent
to
25.
B
Tonight
I
have
committee
members
present.
I
have
a
council
member
johnson,
also
a
council
member
flynn.
Here,
oh
no
councilmember,
conte
myself
as
committee
members
who
are
present
also
we
have
miss
andrea
richard,
for
who
is
the
compliance
coordinator
from
the
office
of
equal
employment
opportunity.
B
B
I
will
turn
it
over
to
one
of
the
prime
sponsors
of
this
legislation:
councilman
alfredo
ballerin
I'll
turn
it
over
to
him
for
an
overview
and
introduction
of
the
piece
of
legislation,
and
then
I
will
turn
over
to
miss
andrea
richard,
just
to
kind
of
give
us
an
overview
of
the
the
current
utilization
plan
and
the
current
and
how
it's
currently
working
for
the
city
as
it
stands
so
and
anything.
C
D
I'll
be
brief,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
being
here
today.
I
want
to
thank
the
staff.
When
we
looked
at
this,
we
looked
at
two
parts.
The
one
part
is
the
seven
point,
five
percent,
which
is
the
total
amount
of
dollars
going
to
contracts
of
for
women
in
minority
owned
business,
and
then
the
second
part
was
the
17.8
percent,
which
is
the
amount
of
labor.
D
D
So
I
am
glad
that
we've
got
a
good
team
who
looked
into
this
our
city,
you
know,
I'm
sorry.
Apparently
our
city
has
had
good
numbers,
so
this
is
if
this
is
a
reachable
goal,
it's
not
going
to
play
a
situation
where
we're
going
to
find
too
many
vendors
looking
to
request
vendors
request
waivers
from
this
provision,
and
that's
that's
why
we
we
we're
at
this
number.
We
want
it
to
be
a
a
a
goal
that
is
achievable.
D
We
want
it
to
be
a
goal
that
gets
achieved
and
then
we
can
look
at
make
it
even
you
know
greater
once
we
get
to
that
number
outside
of
that.
I
also
think
it's
important
as
our
demographics
is
changing
in
our
city.
I
think
it's
important
that
when
people
see
who's
working
on
these
contracts,
they
see
people
that
look
like
them,
that
they
see
an
opportunity
or
an
or
a
opening.
D
As
you
know,
maybe
they
can
get
an
a
position
in
these
companies,
and
it's
just
it
just
to
me
just
makes
sense
and
I'm
glad
we
have
a
strong
support
for
it,
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
request
for
an
amendment
to
have
it
start
january.
1St
2021,
as
long
as
the
other
prime
sponsors,
are
okay
with
that,
I'm
okay
with
having
that
start
january,
1st
2021.,
it's
not
that
far
away
and
if
it
makes
it
the
a
smoother
process
to
be
able
to
administrate.
D
B
Okay,
I
just
want
to
quickly
note
for
the
record
that
councilwoman
jenny
committee,
member
and
councilwoman
judy,
jeannie
farrell,
has
joined
us
and
also
councilmember
jack.
E
B
F
Okay,
hi
everybody,
so
I
I
support
this
goal
increase
so
mainly
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
F
In
2019,
we
achieved
a
goal
of
25.83
minority
and
women
labor
participation
on
completed
projects,
so
you
know
so
we
surpassed
the
current
goal
of
17.9
percent
so
or
17.8
rather
so
I
think
25
is
in
the
right
ballpark,
that's
not
to
say
that
there
weren't
some
contracts
that
failed
to
meet
even
the
current
goal
of
17.8.
F
You
know
it's
an
aggregate
figure,
so
there
there
were
some
contracts
that
were
below
that,
but
the
majority
did
achieve
it.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
raise
the
goal.
I
recommended
in
my
annual
report
that
we
raised
the
subcontractor
participation
goal
because
that
one
was
really
handily
met.
You
know
we
were
really
surpassing
that
quite
a
bit,
so
that
was
the
one
that
I
specifically
mentioned
in
what
else
I
don't
know?
Yes,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
the
start
date
of
january
1st.
F
I
I
think
that
would
be
better
than
just
having
it
effective
immediately
gives
us
time
to.
You
know,
adjust
our
paperwork
and
to
notify
the
contractors.
That
would
be
affected,
and
so
I
think
it's
better
to
be
able
to
say
you
know
there's
this
date
in
the
future,
where
this
changes,
rather
than
just
it's
already
changed,.
G
F
G
Add
to
andrea's
notes,
just
in
terms
of
implementation,
that
there
are
many
multi-year
contracts
that
are
already
in
progress,
especially
some
of
the
big
public
works
projects
and
they
would,
in
their
contract,
is
written
the
old
goal.
So
we
would
make
this
effective
for
any
new
incoming
contract
or
any
adjustments
to
contract,
and
then
there
was
the
internal
policy.
So
this
is
about
the
labor
participation,
but
that
internal
policy,
where
we
had
a
7.5
participation
goal.
We
are
increasing
that
internal
goal
as
well
to
15
effective
january
first.
B
And
do
forgive
me,
anne
marie.
I
forgot
to
recognize
you,
the
deputy
of
administrative
services.
Thank
you.
No
problem,
okay,
so
I
do
have
just
a
point
of
clarification
for
individuals
who
may
not
know
the
difference.
Difference
between
the
mwbe
policy
are
the
and
then
the
mw
labor
laborization
utilization
plan.
So
can
you
just
kind
of
give
the
difference
between
the
two.
F
Sure
so
the
mwbe
goal,
the
one
that's
currently
7.5
percent
that
has
to
do
with
subcontractors
on
these
projects.
So
currently
the
the
7.5
of
the
total
value
of
a
construction
project
needs
to
be
paid
out
to
mwbe,
minority
or
women-owned
businesses
for
subcontracts,
whereas
the
labor
goal
has
to
do
with
the
percentage
of
labor
hours
worked
on
these
projects.
F
You
know
so
again,
so
it's
currently
17.8
percent
of
the
total
labor
hours
worked
on
the
project.
You
know
it
needs
to
be
worked
by
minority
or
women
labor
now
all
of
the
subcontractors,
their
labor
force,
goes
into
those
numbers
as
well.
So
it's
not
just
the
prime
contractor,
but
it's
you
know
everyone.
That's
working
on
the
project.
B
Okay,
great
and
then
what
happens
when
a
contractor
is
unable
to
meet
the
goal?
Can
you
give
a
little
background
on
that.
F
So
they
they
need
to
submit
a
waiver
request.
You
know
they
need
to
show
explain.
You
know
in
detail
the
reasons
why
they
didn't
meet
the
goal
and
they
need
to
show
their
efforts
to
meet
it.
You
know
again,
I
mean
for
the
most
part,
people
do
manage
to
meet
it
or
they
come
very
close.
So
I
I
imagine,
with
the
the
the
goal
increasing
there's
going
to
be
a
period
of
adjustment
where
there
will
be
more.
You
know,
waiver
requests
submitted.
F
That's
my
that's
my
guess,
but
you
know
I
think
it's.
I
think
it's
right
to
raise
the
goal
and
just
always
be
working
towards.
You
know
better
participation
levels.
So
I
mean
I
sort
of
anticipate
having
you
know
having
more
waiver
requests,
but
you
know
they're
not
granted
lightly,
and
you
know
I
do
monitor
all
along
throughout
the
course
of
the
work.
So
I
have
lots
of
opportunities
to
say
to
the
contractors.
F
You
know
it
looks
like
you're
falling
short,
you
know
what
can
be
done
to
remedy
the
situation
and
and
if
there
is
a
contractor
who
who
does
come
up
short
in
the
end.
In
the
final
analysis,
when
the
project
is
completed,
you
know,
if
they,
if
they're
awarded
a
bid
in
the
future,
then
I
bring
that
up
with
them.
You
know
that
the
last
time
they
did
work
for
the
city.
They
fell
short
of
this
goal
so
that
that's
basically
the
procedure.
B
Okay,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
committee
members
for
questions.
Mr
conte.
H
Thank
you,
I'm
just
curious.
This
would
apply
to
city
contracts.
What
are
the
current
standards
or
requirements
for
state
contracts.
F
Do
you
mean,
do
you
mean,
do
you
mean
projects
that
get
state
funding.
H
F
Correct
yeah,
it
depends
on
the
funding
source,
for
example,
a
lot
of
water
department
projects
have
efc
funding
environmental
facilities
corp,
and
it
depends.
You
know,
the
goals
are
there's
more
of
a
range
of
goals,
but
the
mwb
eagles
for
efc-funded
projects
are
anywhere
from
20
percent
to
30
percent
somewhere
in
there,
usually
more,
like
26.
F
In
terms
of
the
labor
goals
they
to
be
honest,
the
state
doesn't
follow
those
very
closely
they
ask
for
reporting,
but
they
don't
they
don't
monitor
it.
As
far
as
I
can
tell
they,
don't
they
don't
monitor
it
too
much.
So
I
really
you
know
when
it
comes
to
state-funded
projects.
You
know,
on
the
on
the
subcontractor
side,
I'm
really
working
to
get
our
contractors
to
adhere
to
the
requirements
of
the
state,
whereas
on
the
labor
side,
I'm
really
enforcing
the
city
goal.
F
You
know,
because
the
state
is
they're,
not
terribly
diligent
about
that.
It
seems
to
me.
H
H
But
these
sitting
at
25
is
something
you
feel
comfortable
we
can
achieve
and
that
it
looks
like
we
have
actually
been
achieving
that.
F
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
alfredo
had
originally
suggested
30.
Do
I
have
that
right,
alfredo.
D
Originally
we
were
looking
the
original
conversation.
We
were
looking
to
raise
the
7.5
to
15..
That
was
the
original
conversation,
but
we
were
told
that
that's
a
policy.
D
Yeah,
so
I'm
very
excited
that
that's
getting
done
as
well,
because
that's
we're
addressing
both
issues:
the
contract
issue,
where
contracts
are
being
given
to
businesses,
but
also
we're
also
addressing
the
labor
issue,
where
the
people
who
are
working
on
the
projects.
Okay
and
the
the
efc
is
between
20
and
32
percent.
H
F
The
in
terms
of
the
labor
goal,
the
25
so
yeah,
I
think
you
know
we
did.
You
know
compromise
a
little
bit
because
I
I
didn't
think
we
should
jump
all
the
way
up
to
30..
I
just
felt
like
there
would
be
a
lot
of
shortfall
and
you
know
I
think
it's
better
to
do
it
incrementally.
F
If,
if
we
have
no
problem
achieving
the
25,
you
know
practically
across
the
board,
then
I
think
we
we
could
jump
it
up
again
sometime,
I
I
don't.
I
definitely
don't
think
it
should
just
be
left
the
same
for
a
decade
or
like
you
know
like
it
has
been
so
great.
B
I
I
have
a
question
jim
I'm
concerned
about
the
subcontracts.
Can
you
tell
me
if
a
contract
does
not
have
the
amount
of
allocated
they
then
can
re-bid
again
is
that
you
said
for
another
contract.
F
So,
to
my
knowledge,
I
I
don't
think
that
a
bidder
has
been
rejected
on
mwbe
grounds.
It's
more
a
question
for
corporation
council.
I
I
can't
be
certain
about
that.
Since
I've
been
in
this
position,
it
hasn't
happened
and
I
don't
think
that's
normally
how
it
goes.
I
think
they
just
normally
sort
of
get
pressured.
Essentially
by
me.
F
You
know
because
of
their
poor
performance
in
the
past.
You
know
I
pressure
them
to
do
better
next
time
around,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
they
would
be
rejected
if
they're,
the
lowest
bidder.
I
F
I'd
have
to
look
back.
I've
been
in
this
position
for
about
two
years,
so
you
know
I
there's
not
too
much
of
a
pattern
that
I've
been
able
to
observe.
Yet
you
know
there.
Maybe
if
I
looked
back
over
the
records,
I
could
find
a
pattern,
but.
I
I
B
J
Can
you
hear
me
hello,
okay,
I
forgot
her
name
just
that
quick
amy,
andrea,
andrea
hi.
So
my
question
is
how
many
contractors
have
already
met
25
percent.
J
F
So
I
mean
that
you
know:
there's
a
range
you
know
so
some
there
are
some
small
projects
that
happen
within
the
city.
You
know
like
acda
projects
where
you
know
they're
at
a
hundred
percent
I
mean
everybody
that
works
for
the
company
is
minority
or
or
woman
labor.
So
you
know
there's
cases
like
that.
Then
there's
cases
where
you
know,
I
don't
know
what
it's
an
electrical
contractor
and
you
know
they
have
one
minority
employee
and
you
know
they.
F
You
know
I
asked
them
to
put
that
person
on
the
city
contract,
but
you
know
they
they
aren't
always
able
to.
You
know,
there's
a
big
range.
You
know
so,
but
I
because
the
because
the
aggregate
figure
that
we
met
in
2019
was
25.
F
I
think
that
that's
probably
the
right
goal
for
right
now,
like
I
said
I,
I
certainly
wouldn't
be
opposed
to
it
getting
raised
sometime
in
the
future,
but
I
think
maybe
a
couple
of
steps
towards
a
higher
goal
would
be
would
make
sense.
Does
that
answer.
B
Now,
andrew,
I
do
have
another
question
now:
do
you
know,
or
would
you
have
this
information
about
the
amount
of
people
on
these
contracts
that
work
in
the
city
I
mean
are
from
the
city
of
albany
who
work
on
these
contracts?
Are
they
it's
kind
of
up
to
the
contractor
to
their
current
workforce.
F
Yeah,
I
don't
have
information
on
that.
I
mean
I
can
see
why
that
would
be
relevant,
but
you
know
the
the
the
contractors
they
can
be
from
all
over.
I
mean
we
get
bidders
from
all
over
and
you
know
we
even
have
companies
on
our
mwbe
list
that
are
not
you
know.
Within
the
city
of
albany
I
mean
any.
F
Any
company
can
apply
to
be
a
city
of
albany
certified
mwbe,
so
they
can
get
work
with
the
city
so
yeah
I
mean
one
hopes
that
this
trickles
down
and
affects
you
know
our
our
community,
the
members
of
our
community
for
sure,
but
but
I
don't
have
statistics
on
that.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
getting
everything,
councilman,
johnson
and
then
councilman
bellerin.
C
Good
evening,
I
just
would
like
to
follow
up
on
councilwoman
love's
question
the
answer
she
said
it
made
sense
and-
and
I
just
would
like
to
for
her
to
expand
on
why
it
made
sense.
If,
if,
if
she
could
explain
her
answer
because
I
didn't
follow
it
like
councilwoman
loved
it,
so
could
she
explain
why
it
made
sense
to
delay
raising
the
the
increases.
C
I
wanted
her
to
explain
her
answer
because
she
said
her
answer
made
sense,
but
I
was
just
trying
to
follow
it
and
why
she
felt
it
made
sense
to
do
the
increases
gradually.
F
Well,
I
think
that
you
know
17.8
percent
up
to
say
30,
you
know
it's
a
big
increase
and
you're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
non-compliance,
probably
initially,
because
this
labor
goal
has
to
do
with
basically
the
workforce
that
a
contractor
has
employed.
I
mean
you're,
basically
asking
them
to
you,
know
change.
You
know
the
people
that
they
have
hired
or
that
they're
putting
on
the
city
contracts.
You
know
it's
not
something
that
can
be
done
instantly.
I
don't
know
to
me
to
me.
F
It
makes
sense
to
rather
than
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
non-compliance.
You
know
getting
reported.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
applying
for
waivers.
F
F
Then
I
think
if
that
happens,
a
lot,
then
the
contractors
start
to
think.
Oh,
you
know
this
doesn't
really
matter.
You
know
you
just
file
a
waiver
request,
so
I
think
it's
better
to
have
a
goal
that
they
are
meeting
or
that
they're
it's
attainable
to
them
very
soon.
You
know
if
they
make
some
adjustments
to
their
workforce
and
then
increase
it
again.
You
know
down
the
line
a
little
bit
I
just
for
me.
F
I
would
rather
see
that
than
have
a
lot
of
contractors
applying
for
waivers
and
there's
not
too
much.
You
know
for
me
to
do
other
than
to
just
grant
them
the
waiver
if
they
have
good
reasons,
because
you
know
they're
they're
on
the
job,
they're
doing
the
work
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
players
involved.
You
know
mwbe,
isn't
the
only
consideration
so
yeah
so
does
that
make
sense?
I
don't
know.
F
C
And
I
guess
the
reason
why
I
I'm
getting:
that
is
because
our
workforce
is
supposed
to
be
developed
continuously
through
the.
What
is
it
down
on
green
street,
the
wade
center
and
it's
supposed
to
be
creating
community
residents
that
could
apply
for
these
jobs
and
that
hasn't
been
happen
happening
for
years.
C
And
maybe
I
think,
if
we
put
pressure
on
the
the
contractors
to
to
be
able
to
meet
those
goals,
they
would
you
know
things
will
be
taken
a
little
bit
more
serious
and,
and
you
know
we
can
have
changes
and,
and
our
community
members
can
start
seeing
community
members
participating
in
these
jobs
and
not
people
coming
from
outside
of
their
community
continuously
getting
those
jobs.
So.
F
C
F
I
would
be
happy
to
connect
certain
individuals,
you
know
say
from
the
wage
center
with
the
contractors.
I
I
don't
know
the
legality
of
this.
Maybe
it's
a
question
for
law,
but
I
mean
I
would
be
happy
to
try
to
make
those
connections
so
that
maybe
they
stand
a
better
chance
of
getting
hired
by
contractors
for
the
city.
Maybe
something
like
that
could
could
be
arranged.
F
You
know
I
don't
I'm
not
sure,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
mechanism
would
be
or
how
it
would
work,
but
I'd
be
really
happy
to
try
to
connect
people
with
opportunities.
B
Thank
you,
councilman
blair,.
D
Yes,
I
just
want
to
echo
some
of
the
statements
have
already
been
made
when,
when
we
started
this
process
the
question
that
was
asked
it
was
can't
we
make
it
so
that
contractors
have
to
hire
more
people
from
the
city.
That
was
the
original
question,
and
what
corporate
council
explained
was
that
that's
against
the
law
that
you
can't
do
that?
That's
that's
not
how
you
can
write
up
rfps,
that's
not
how
you
can
write
up
bids
so
once
we
found
that
was
something
that
we
couldn't
do.
D
Then
we
looked
at
what
other
options
do
we
have
to
do
exactly
what
council
member
johnson
is
speaking
about
to
put
more
pressure
so
that
more
of
these
contracts
are
going
to
individuals
that
are
hiring
people?
You
know
that
look
more
like
the
city's
population
and
hopefully
are
also
living
in
the
city.
You
know,
I'm
a
big
believer
in
trying
to
you
know,
keep
us
maximize
as
much
of
your
resources
as
you
have
to
bring
it
and
to
keep
it
local
as
best
as
possible.
D
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
policy,
because
we
get
two
in
one.
We
get
the
7.5
going
up
to
15,
which
is
a
100
increase
in
in
in
that
number,
which
again
I
applaud
the
administration.
I
applaud
your
office
for
moving
forward
in
that
direction
and
I
thank
you
for
doing
that
and
we
also
get
roughly
a
little
less
than
30
increase
in
the
workforce
numbers
as
well.
So
it's
it's
significant.
It
puts
more
pressure
on
on
those
contractors.
D
It
will
continue
to
put
pressure
on
them
to
meet
those
numbers
as
well
as
once
we
get
them
to
meet
the
numbers
like
I've
said
and
they're
already
meeting
them,
but
once
we
have
them
consistently
getting
them
to
meet
their
numbers,
we
can
go
back
and
look
again
and
see
what
else
we
can
do
to
continue
to
keep
that
pressure
on
and
the
goal
is
the
goal
is
that
hopefully,
some
of
these
contractors
will,
you
know,
hire
many
of
our
residents
that
are
in
the
fields
and
are
looking
for
an
opportunity.
B
Okay,
council,
woman,
frederick
and
then
councilman
jack
flynn.
A
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
quick
question
about
the
waiver
process.
So
is
there
andrea?
Is
there
a
certain
set
of
guidelines
or
standards
that
you
follow
in
granting
those
waivers,
for
example,
I'm
sitting
here
and
I'm
thinking?
Okay,
if
it's
a
if
it's
a
one
to
two
man
shop
right
and
they
might
not
meet
the
requirement?
A
That
could
be
something
I
could.
I
could
you
know,
think
about
being
acceptable,
but
outside
of
like
some
of
those
standard
reasons
about
like
workforce
potentially
having
like
not
as
many
people,
I
can't
really
conjure
why
people
wouldn't
meet
the
requirement
because
we
do
have
such
a
diverse
population
here
in
albany.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
any
like
standard
standard
guidelines,
you
follow
to
grant
those
waivers
or
what
what
goes
into
that
process.
F
Well,
I
mean
yeah,
I
mean
they
really
they
the
waiver
process
is,
you
know
they
fill
out
a
form
and
then
they
submit
a
letter
of
explanation,
and
so
you
know
basically
it's
a
situation
where
you
know
I
try
to
get
that.
Looking
as
complete
as
possible.
You
know
I
ask
them
questions
and
I
hope
that
they,
you
know,
will
submit
something
as
detailed
as
as
I'd
like
you
know,
but
in
reality
you
know
they're
not
actually
going
to
lose
the
contract
over
it.
F
I
mean
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
say
that
to
them.
You
know
necessarily
I
mean
I,
but
so
the
fact
is
that
you
know
it's
all.
Just
it's
it's
pressure.
It's
like
it's
bringing
attention
to
the
issue
and
letting
them
know
that
you
know.
Other
people
see
the
statistics.
You
know
I
bring
up
the
common
council,
you
know,
for
example,
when
I'm
talking
to
contractors-
and
I
tell
them
that
you
know
I
report
to
the
common
council
and
you.
C
F
Their
their
project,
with
their
name,
comes
out
in
the
report
and
shows
you
know
their
participation
level.
So
you
know
I
just
sort
of
basically
you
know
pressure
them
to
to
do
better,
but.
G
I
was
also
gonna
mention
that
we
can
remove
them
from
our
approved
mwbe
contractors
list
if
they
consistently
don't
meet
the
standards
and
I'm
not
gonna.
I
don't
know
everything
about
it,
but
I
believe
andrea.
You
have
removed
contractors
before
for
repeatedly
not
meeting
goals
and
taking
them
off
the
list.
So
there
is
that
mechanism
too.
G
F
For
I
mean
for
the
labor
goal,
you
know
it's,
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
anybody's
been
removed
for
the
from
the
list
for
not
meeting
the
labor
requirement,
I
mean
you
know,
I
guess
I
guess
my
my
sense
is
that,
generally
what
the
contractors
will
say
you.
C
F
Is
that
you
know
they
didn't
get?
You
know
they're,
not
getting
applicants.
You
know
that
that
they
can
hire.
You
know,
you
know,
that's
basically
what
they
say.
They
say
they're,
they
say
they're,
looking
they're
trying
to
diversify
their
workforce,
but
they
you
know
or
they
say
well,
we
we
have.
You
know
some
diversity
in
our
workforce,
but
those
people
are
currently
on
another
job.
You
know
so
you
know
they
have.
They
have
reasons,
but
I'm
not
gonna
say
that
you
know.
F
I
love
the
reasons
you
know
generally,
but
I
don't
know.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
I
F
I
could
easily
find
that
you
know
that
there's
a
but,
but
so,
but
what
we're
talking
about
when
we
talk
about
the
labor
is
not
actually
the
certified
mwbes.
It's
it's
any
contractor
that
that
has
that
is
doing
a
project
for
the
city,
so
some
are
mwbes
and
some
aren't
the
ones
that
are
mwbes
they're.
They
usually
have
subcontracts
they're,
not
the
prime,
and
they
also
usually
have
more
minority
and
women
labor.
F
You
know,
so
it's
not
it's
not
very
likely
that
someone
would
be
removed
from
the
list.
For
that
reason,
what
I
guess
you
might
be
asking
is:
could
they
be?
F
Essentially,
you
know
banned
or
flagged
or
something
so
that
they
wouldn't
get
it
in
the
future
and
that's
kind
of
that's
not
really
in
my
control,
because
I
believe
there
are
legal
reasons
why,
if
they're
the
low
bidder
you
know
my
my
role
is
more
like
I
I
deal
with
the
whoever
does
get
the
contract
and
I
interface
with
them,
and
try
to
get
them
up
to
compliance
and
encourage
them
to
comply.
F
B
Okay,
any
other
council
members
with
questions.
B
No
okay,
let's
see
so
did
we
want
to
oh
councilwoman.
E
I'd
love
to
make
a
motion
to
pass
it
through
the
committee
with
a
positive
recommendation.
I.
H
B
Okay,
so
I
will
now
entertain
the
motion
to
put
this
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation.
So
councilwoman
pharaoh
made
the
motion
and
that's
a.
A
E
Okay-
and
I
I
would
just
thank
councilmember
ballerin
for
bringing
it
up
and
putting
us
forward.
E
I
Can
I
be
a
co-sponsor
michelle,
please.
A
B
I
will
lean
on
council
member
conti's
expertise.
H
B
Okay
and
just
publicly,
I
would
like
to
note
that
miss
jenny,
farrell's
son,
has
been
inducted
into
the
honor
society.
Congratulations
thank.
E
B
That's
great
okay,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
Thank
you
so
much
andrea
for
being
here
and
also
miss
anne
marie
for
being
here
and
all
of
the
council
members
for
attending
the
meeting
this
evening.
But
if
nothing
else
I'll
make.