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Meeting of the committee to review legislation before them for consideration
A
We
are
also
joined
by
our
incredible
staff,
ethan
samuel
and
by
the
amazing
gil
trudeau
from
traffic,
we're
going
to
start
off
with
our
public
comment
and
we
will
be
doing
those
I
mean
ethan.
How
many
speakers
do
we
have
four
speakers
so
we'll
allow
them
to
speak.
It
looks
like
we're
also
joined
by
our
incredible
danielle
gillespie,
who
just
had
a
high
school
graduate
this
yesterday.
Congratulations
to
the
amazing
isaiah!
A
A
A
C
C
Skateboarding
is
a
huge
coping
skill
for
mental
and
emotional
support
for
all
ages
of
people,
which
I'm
not
sure
that
people
think
of
skateboarding
in
that
way.
But
it's
a
major
coping
skill
to
help
with
anxiety
it
actually
their
statistics
that
show
that
skateboarding
has
reduced
depression
and
suicide
rates
in
local
cities
that
have
public
skate
parks
that
are
inclusive
to
skateboarding,
just
as
much
as
the
city
is
inclusive,
with
cyclists
and
other
forms
of
transportation.
C
So,
being
in
this
position
and
working
with
youth
and
working
with
adults
and
providing
the
skateboarding
program,
you
know
skateboarding
brings
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
growth
and
to
have
these
restrictions
to
the
community.
So
the
skateboarding
violation
in
law
creates
a
a
barrier
and
many
limitations
to
the
community,
so
many
young
adults
and
youth
and
regula
adults
of
all
ages,
they're
being
intimidated,
fined
their
boards
being
confiscated.
Simply
for
you
know
using
it
as
transportation
and
recreational
use.
C
A
A
Hello,
andrew
welcome
to
the
law,
buildings
and
code
committee
meeting.
I
know
you're
here
to
provide
public
comment
just
so
I
should
have
mentioned
it
before.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
comment
on
the
legislation
that
we're
looking
at
and
I'll
be
keeping
a
timer
on
for
five
minutes.
So
if
you
are
under
that
great
but
I'll,
let
you
know
when
you
get
close
to
that
time.
Go
ahead.
Okay,.
D
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes
great,
so
I've
been
an
albany
resident,
almost
my
entire
life.
I
grew
up
across
the
river
in
castleton,
but
I've
been
living
in
albany
for
the
better
part
of
six
years.
I've
seen
so
many
different
types
of
skating.
As
tatiana
mentioned,
there
are
more
than
one
ways
to
use
a
skateboard,
a
lot
of
people
like
to
pigeonhole
it
into
being
more
of
a
destructive
sport.
D
So
to
speak,
where
you
need
to
be
on
an
obstacle,
or
you
know,
defacing
a
public
entity
or
building
or
spot
so
to
speak,
which
is
just
you
know,
it's
not
true.
It's
it's
easy
to
say
that
skateboarding
is
one
thing
or
another,
but
for
a
lot
of
different
people,
it
is
just
how
they
get
around,
whether
it
be
long
boarding
or
using
a
motorized
one
or
even
just
using
a
regular
skateboard
that
you
would
use
at
a
skate
park.
D
So
I
have
seen
a
lot
of
people
outside
of
businesses
very
quick
to
shoo
away
a
skater
who
may
just
be
hanging
out
there
or
trying
to
maybe
just
you
know,
get
from
point
a
to
point
b
in
a
slow
fashion
or
even
ways
that
they
are.
You
know
using
their
skateboard
to
do
a
trick
or
use
a
spot
that
might
not
be
defacing
any
sort
of.
D
D
A
lot
of
artistic
expression
comes
from
skateboarding.
I
would
consider
anybody
who
skates
or
has
a
recreational
activity
that
involves
using
a
peripheral
whether
it
be
biking
or
baton
twirling,
even
like
anything
that
you
are
using
outside
of
your
own
body.
I
I
would
say
is
an
artistic
expression
and
skateboarding
always
catches
the
wrap
and
gets
eliminated
from
public
spaces
in
such
a
quick
way
that
while
a
bike
may
be
used
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b,
a
skateboard
may
not
be
allowed
to
do
the
same
in
the
same
area.
D
So
I
would
really
love
to
see
the
city
that
I've
been
living
in
and
have
been
putting
all
my
time
and
effort
into
working
for
and
trying
to
improve
to
do
more
also,
while
the
city
did
fund
a
lot
of
the
build
for
the
skate
park
that
was
a
while
ago.
I'm
not
sure
if
I
know
exactly
when
those
were
built,
but
it
feels
like
almost
you
know
close
to
ten
years,
maybe
seven
or
six.
D
D
Frankly,
because
I
can't
teach
them
anywhere
else,
it
would
be
more
dangerous.
I'd
have
to
teach
someone
how
to
roll
over
a
pretty
substantial
crack
to
skate
on
this,
or
you
have
to
swerve
this
or
do
a
bunch
of
different
things
that
just
it
makes
it
hard,
and
I
know
that
that
meeting
this
meeting
isn't
necessarily
about
the
condition
of
the
skatepark,
but
at
the
same
time,
while
the
city
can
say
that
they
donated
the
money
or
put
the
money
up
for
the
skatepark.
D
D
A
And
if
you
look
at
the
recording
and
I
get
a
giant
smile
on
my
face
at
the
beginning-
it's
because
my
son
andrew,
is
a
huge
skateboarder
and
he
is
out
there
all
the
time
and
it
would
have.
I
was
like
this
is
probably
him
he's,
probably
here
not
telling
me
about
it,
I'm
not
your
son,
but
I
heard
your
voice,
I'm
like
that's
not
my
sense.
D
A
Although
I
would
have
loved
him
to
come,
but
I
was
like
why,
wouldn't
you
just
tell
me
because
he
was
like
I'm
gonna,
go
over
to
my
friend's
house
for
a
little
bit
and
like
if
those
guys
are
coming
in
and
doing
public
comment
in
my
meeting
and
not
telling
me
about
it.
That's
all
it'd
actually
be
pretty
cool
but
well.
I
hope
that
they're,
at
least
watching
he's
definitely
very
aware
of
it.
So
I
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
in
and
advocating
for
skateboarding
as
a
whole,
because.
A
We
don't
always
especially
for
skaters,
I
feel
like
they
don't
always
mind
when
things
aren't
in
great
shape,
at
least
my
own
personal
skater.
So
it's
really
good
to
hear
about
the
condition
of
the
park,
because
that's
definitely
something
that
that
we
care
about.
So
we
appreciate
that
before
we
introduce
the
next
person.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
we're
also
joined
by
council
members,
kimbrough
and
ballerin.
We
also
have
been
enjoyed
by
enjoyed
joined
by
our
other
incredible
staff.
John
rachel
piccardo
ethan.
A
A
Hello
kyle
welcome
to
the
law,
buildings
and
code
committee.
I
am
jenny
farrell,
the
chair.
We
would
love
for
you
to
share
your
public
comment.
This
is
something
where
we're
listening
to
what
you
have
to
say.
It's
not
a!
You
won't
get
any
questions
from
any
council
members
and
you
have
five
minutes
to
speak
so
go
ahead.
Thank
you
for
coming.
G
A
G
Yes,
since
I
am
here,
it's
pretty
off
the
cuff,
because
I
was
not
prepared
for
that
whatsoever,
but
I
do
think,
since
this
is
what
I
was
coming
in
for
that
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
legalize
skateboarding
within
the
city
of
albany.
That
is,
you
know
there
are
clear
health
benefits.
It's
a
good
way
to
keep
people
out
of
trouble,
give
them
something
to
do,
and
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
find
out.
There
were
restrictions
on
it
like
within
good
sense.
G
A
Excellent,
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
in.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
and,
as
I
said,
we're
broadcasting
this,
so
you
can
watch
it
right
on
facebook,
it's
also
recorded.
So
if
you
would
like
to
go
out
skateboarding
right
now
and
come
back
and
watch
it
another
time,
you
can.
Thank
you
so
much
so
ethan.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
letting
the
last
person
in
then
we
can
move
forward
with
our
discussion.
Oh
that's
all
the
public
speakers,
someone
left
and
never
came
back
excellent.
A
F
These
days,
it's
also
for
transportation
tatiana.
Who
is
the
head
of
noteworthy
resources?
I
don't
think
she
went
into
her
accolades
as
much,
but
truly
she
has
organized
a
group
of
young
and
old
people
to
come
together
on
skateboarding
really
to
encourage
something
that
is
not
just
even
recreation
or
transportation,
but
also
a
form
of
social
gathering
and
and
mental
wellness.
So
there's
so
many
different
components
here
and
the
legislation
I
think,
touches
on
all
of
them,
most
importantly,
the
jurisdictional
component,
but
also
the
criminalization
of
this
conduct.
F
F
The
only
component
that
I
kept
in
the
legislation,
after
speaking
with
constituents
and
advocates
on
this
issue,
was
the
monuments
component
and
statues,
which
I
agree,
there's
a
obvious
reason
to
protect
our
city,
our
city,
statues
and
monuments.
So
that
is
how
I
feel
about
this.
I
did
also
speak
with
j.r
and
brett
about
the
legislation.
F
So
I
think,
for
purpose
of
today's
conversation
with
the
legislation
as
it
stands
would
really
just
be
a
decriminalization
of
what
it
is
at
the
moment
and
then
a
separate
piece
of
legislation
can
be
introduced
to
model
or
really
to
model
what
exists
in
new
york
state
law
at
the
moment,
adding
in
the
language
of
skateboard,
because
the
language
as
it
stands
right
now
skating,
which
I
do
think
is
the
same.
But
we
can
have
that
conversation
another
day.
A
F
H
B
I
don't
really
have
questions
so
much
as
just
a
point
of
clarification
because
currently
in
city
statute,
this
is
not
criminalized
conduct,
it's
considered
a
violation
and
the
most
extreme
penalty.
That's
currently
in
there
is
that
you
lose
your
skateboard
for
life
or
the
city
keeps
possession
of
the
skateboard
permanently
after
your
third
violation.
B
As
I
see
right
now,
people
are
riding
skateboards
through
that
corridor.
All
the
time-
and
you
know
hanging
out
doing
stuff
all
over
the
place
that
would
technically
be
in
violation
of
of
the
statute
as
it
currently
sits
on
the
books,
and
I
I've
never
in
the
decades
that
I've
been
in
the
city,
anybody
actually
or
anyone
from
apd
actually
come
and
take
skateboards
from
people.
B
F
F
Interpretation
of
criminalization,
you're
correct,
is
that
it
is
a
violation,
but
what
many
people
don't
realize
when
you
are
issued
a
ticket
is
that
you
are
given
a
date
to
appear
on
the
violation
of
city
code
and
when
you
appear
in
court
on
that
violation
of
city
code,
that
that
is
a
lowercase
type
of
criminalization
of
conduct.
You
have
to
take
time
off
of
work.
You
have
to
figure
out
transportation,
can't
skateboard
to
city
hall,
because
it's
illegal
to
do
that.
F
There
you're
gonna,
have
to
find
a
way
to
get
to
your
court
of
jurisdiction
and
then
once
you're
there.
You
have
to
wait
in
line
to
be
seen
in
front
of
the
judge
and
then
let's
say
they
issue
a
fine
of
some
kind
or
they
take
away.
Your
skateboard
like
was
that
skateboard
expensive?
Did
you
have
to
save
up
all
of
your
money?
Did
your
parents
purchase
it
for
you?
Was
it
a
birthday
gift?
How
are
you
gonna
get
another
skateboard?
Maybe
that's
your
only
form
of
transportation.
F
F
A
A
It's
the
group
that
he
skateboards
with
is
a
very
diverse
group.
So
obviously
my
son
looks
like
me
and
I
think
that
that
matters
in
terms
of
enforcement,
but
not
all
of
his
friends,
do
so
he's.
Never
actually
the
only
place
he's
ever
had
any
issue
with
skateboarding
with
authorities
is
on
the
plaza
and
that's
literally
because
the
marble
breaks
really
easily
and
it's
very
expensive
to
fix.
So
it's
kind
of
known
as
despite
it
being
a
literal,
skateboarder's
paradise.
A
However,
so
I
just
I'd
love
to
finish
up
so,
although
it's
not
necessarily
something
that
is
often
enforced,
what
I
would
say
is
there
is
absolutely
a
negative
perception
on
skateboarding,
and
it
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
really
appreciate
council
member
romero
bringing
this
up,
because
there
is
a
huge
like
very
negative
views
on
skateboarding
and
as
the
different
people
it
came
in
spoke
about,
it's
really
become
a
a
whole,
very
supportive
community,
where
I
just
I've.
Never
I'm
so
thankful.
A
My
son
is
part
of
it,
especially
during
the
pandemic,
because
it
was
like
an
outdoor
activity
that
the
kids
that
were
involved
in
skateboarding
had
a
whole
separate
lifeline,
no
matter
where
they
lived
in
the
city,
it
was,
it
was
really
a
beautiful
supportive
community
who
is
actively
trying
to
support
people
to
continue
to
be
part
of
that.
So
they
have
skate
clinics
specifically
targeted
to
girls,
because
they
that's
one
of
the
it's
hardest
to
get
girls
involved
in
skating.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
things
that
I
I
don't
know
if
they
came
back
with
data
that
they
actually
would
have
data.
That
said
that
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
situations
where
escape
that
has
happened,
but
I
think
that
it's
bigger
than
that.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
perception
involved
with
it,
and
I
I
would
just
note
in
terms
of
affordable
skateboards
if
you're
a
skater,
you
break
your
skateboard
all
the
time.
A
So
the
cost
of
the
skateboard
is
not
actually
that
big
of
a
deal
because
they
literally
break
them
constantly,
and
I
also
seasons
regularly,
does
deck
giveaways.
So
there
that's
another
whole
thing
with
the
skate
community.
Is
they
actually
are
actively
involved
in
trying
to
make
sure
that
cost
is
not
a
barrier
and
that
there's
that
people
can
all
be
directly
involved?
So
I
just
want
to
note
that
we're
also
joined
by
council
member
jack
flynn
and
gabriella.
Do
you
mind
if
I
call
and
hide
because
yeah
go
ahead.
I
So
I
guess
just
a
couple
of
points
just
from
the
conversation
yeah,
I
think,
regardless
of
enforcement.
I
think
it's
an
issue
that
only
one
part
of
the
city
has
like
extra
regulations.
I
mean
to
me,
regardless
of
how
we
interpret
the
vehicle
and
traffic
law.
That
seems
to
be
what
should
govern
and
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
the
original
intent,
if
it's
because
of
state
property
or
you
know
what
whatever
it
was,
doesn't
matter
it
just.
I
You
know.
I
appreciate
what
council
member
romero
is
trying
to
do
in
in
terms
of
it
seems
like
this
is
a
targeted
area,
the
city
that
has
almost
extra
regulations.
So
I
guess
I'm
not
as
interested
in
the
numbers
of
you
know:
kids
that
are
or
whoever's
being
issued
tickets,
so
much
as
why
we
would
have
different
rules
for
different
parts
of
the
city.
So
if
we
can
come
up
with
a
guide
that
works
for
the
entire
city,
that's
where
I
would
be
at.
Thank
you.
F
Okay,
really
quick.
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
I
did
speak
with
commissioner
johnson
jones,
who
also
said
that
they
were
in
support
of
this.
The
city
actually
has
its
own
skateboarding
camp,
which
is
really
wonderful,
really
wonderful
to
me,
but
also
is
interesting
like
how
how
would
they
get
there
if
they
live
eastern
florida
street
if
they're
skateboarding
on
their
way
there
and
then
something
else
as
well?
F
That's
separate,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
which
is
the
enforcement
aspect
of
it
like
that,
doesn't
negate
the
fact
that
it
is
disproportionately
affecting
a
part
of
the
city,
and
I
I
I
see
you
nodding
your
head
judy.
That's
awesome!
It's
just
like
that.
Like
let's
say
it's
not
enforced,
it's
still
a
violation,
a
potential
violation
of
our
own
equity
agenda,
and
I
think
it.
E
J
J
So
I
decided
to
pick
up
pick
it
up
last
year
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
it
was
such
a
joy
and
I
met
so
many
people,
friends
and
some
people
that
I
even
connect
with.
I
mean
I
see
a
sunday
all
the
time,
you're
all
right,
jenny,
your
son
do
participate
the
skateboard
part.
One
thing
that
I
think
about
with
this
legislation
is
that
you
know
as
a
society,
we
have
to
be
consistent.
We
have
to
be
intentional.
J
J
We
get
away
with
it,
but
I
think
that
legislation
that
just
only
target
certain
demographics,
particularly,
let's
be
frank,
is
targeted
towards
marginalized
communities
and
people
of
color,
because
when
you
look
lower
of
the
sixth
ward,
those
are
the
demographics
that
it
seemed
like
it
would
target
I'm
a
supporter
of
skateboarding.
I
think
people
need
to
have
outlets.
J
You
know,
there's
several
health
benefits,
there's
also
a
mode
of
transportation
for
many
people
in
our
community,
and
I
believe
that
what
is
good
for
the
south
end
should
also
be
what's
good
for
the
pine
hills.
Neighborhood
and
what's
good
for
upper
washington
should
also
be
what's
good
for
west
gate,
so
I
will
be
supporting
this
legislation,
and
I
urge
my
colleagues
to
also
do
the
same
thing.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
gabriella
for
bringing
this
up
on
the
point
of.
J
If
this
is
like
the
criminalization
or
not,
you
know,
I
think
the
council
member
said
it
eloquently
that
just
putting
individuals
in
contact
with
law
enforcement,
particularly
whether
they're
receiving
a
violation,
a
violation,
may
sometimes
make
them
feel
like
they're
criminal.
You
know
either
whether
it's
not
or
whether
it's
a
criminal
act
or
not
being
stopped,
while
you're
skateboarding
even
to
give
a
little
violation.
J
You
will
start
feeling
like
such
and
I
deal
with
kids
all
the
time
and
when
you
treat
someone
as
a
criminal,
they
will
start
feeling
like
that
and
then
there's
a
whole
host
of
issues
that
follow
up
after
that.
So
I
just
think
that
this
legislation
is
a
good
step
forward
for
our
city
and
if
we
want
to
be
a
truly
a
city
for
all
neighborhoods,
if
we
really
want
to
see
all
neighborhoods
work,
we
have
to
pass
legislations
that
benefit
all
neighborhoods,
no
matter
your
zip
code.
Thank
you.
A
B
Yeah,
I
I
am
not
at
all
opposed
to
the
idea
of
bringing
parity
with
vtl
on
how
other
modes
of
transportation
are
used
throughout
the
city.
I
don't
think
that
that
is
my
concern.
However,
those
of
us
that
represent
certain
areas
around
where
this
legislation
came
up
have
have
certainly
gotten
a
lot
of
concerns
from
community
members,
particularly
with
regards
to
not
necessarily
the
behavior
of
all
skateboarders,
but
the
behaviors
of
some,
and
I
think
my
greater
concern
is
removing
the
language
and
I'm
not
saying
that
this
shouldn't
be
language.
B
That's
perhaps
incorporated
throughout
the
entire
city,
but
really
removing
language.
That
specifically
says
it
is
not
okay
to
to
be
skateboarding
on
somebody's
personal
property
or
businesses,
where
that's
that's
not
allowed,
and
that
has
largely
been
the
concerns
that
have
been
brought
up
by
the
community
and
I,
and
while
they
were
not
here
for
public
comment,
I
think
it's
important
for
this
body
to
think
about
that
and
consider
that
and
how
we
deal
with
this
legislation.
B
I
think
that,
whatever
we
do
on
that
issue,
it
should
be
something
that
is
is
sort
of
dealt
with
in
an
equitable
way.
I'm
not
in
disagreement
of
that,
but
there
are
certainly
concerns
that
were
brought
up
from
the
community
and
constituency
around
skateboarders
being
on
private
property
and
and
loitering
on
private
property
and
doing
damage
to
private
property
as
a
result
of
skateboarding.
A
A
A
A
A
F
I
would
make
a
motion
to
move
it
out
of
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation
and
then
introduce
additional
legislation
to
which
will
be
separate
to
make
it
very
clear.
As
you
mentioned,
and
you
and
I
talked
about
in
new
york
state
law,
and
I
when
I,
when
someone
introduced,
I
guess
it
can
be
clear.
J
J
I
Yeah
I'll
also
support
this
moving
out
of
committee
and
would
like
to
work
with
councilman
romero
and
anyone
else
on
additional
language
to
make
sure
we're
just
we
have
a
policy
for
the
entire
city.
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
it's
too
targeted
right
now
and
that's
why
I'm
happy
to
support
removing
it
at
this
point
repealing
it.
Thank
you.
A
So
I
I
also
I
actually
because
of
that
inconsistency
I
I
wouldn't
totally
feel
comfortable
waiting,
because
I
don't
think
it's
really
a
great
idea
for
one
part
of
the
city
to
have
a
very
targeted
rule
without
a
clear
reason.
So,
but
I
would
request,
especially
since
we
have
heard
from
the
mayor's
office
about
potential
concerns
when
it
comes
to
pedestrians
and
safety
for
people
who
are
walking
so
there's
some
sort
of
accountability
structure.
For
that.
A
F
H
A
Excellent
well,
thank
you
so
much
everyone.
We
will
be
having
another
committee
meeting.
We
have
one
piece
of
legislation
and
then
it
looks
like
we'll
be
having
another
one
soon,
and
I
also
just
for
everyone.
That's
here.
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
feedback
on
on
the
skateboard
park
itself
and
also
perhaps
some
ideas
of
expanding
that
and
I'll
mention
it,
especially
because
councilmember
anony
is
head
of
a
chair
of
our
parks
committee.