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Discussed Local Law H of 2021 & Local Law I of 2021
A
The
may
10th
meeting
law
builders
and
codes
committee
to
take
up
proposed
laws,
local
8,
local
law,
age
in
local
law,
eye
of
2021,
we'll
start
the
meeting
with
taking
public
comments.
Okay,
and
we
limit
it
to
three
minutes
each.
A
A
That
I
have
signed
up
sorry,
first
of
all,
I'd
better
call
to
tell
the
members
they're
here,
michael
members
of
the
committee,
michael
bryant,
signing
frederick
myself.
I.
C
A
C
Hello
good
evening,
so,
first
of
all,
thank
you
for
this
meeting
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
this,
particularly
separating
out
the
rops
from
good
cause,
because
I
feel,
like
the
rops,
has
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
improvement
and
in
in
particular,
there's
so
many
ways
in
which
we
could
all
work
on
this
together.
C
So
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
a
public
comment
right
at
the
top
of
the
meeting,
so
I'm
a
little
out
of
breath,
I
wasn't
necessarily
expecting
to
speak
right
away,
but
here
we
go
here
are
my
five
concrete
proposals
that
I'd
love
for
you
all
to
sort
of
think
about
and
consider
tonight
one
one.
That's
super
important
to
me
and
a
lot
of
landlords
and
I
should
say
I'm
an
18-year
resident
of
albany.
C
I
live
in
on
elm
street,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
propo
remove
the
requirement
currently
proposed
to
post
rops
on
the
walls
of
buildings.
I
do
not
think
this
is
necessary.
I
think
it
is
a
real
challenge
for
the
privacy
of
landlords
and
also
the
privacy
of
emergency
contacts
that
you're
asking
people
to
have.
C
I
think
this
information
can
be
transmitted
in
other
ways,
so
it's
very
easy
to
have
a
transfer
of
contact
information
between
landlord
and
tenant,
much
in
the
same
way,
the
landlords
and
tenants
pass
along
information
around
lead
disclosure
laws,
so
you
have
accountability
from
the
tenant
as
to
whether
or
not
the
landlord
gave
them
their
contact
information.
You
also
have
it
on
file
at
city
hall
as
part
of
the
rop
process.
I
think
those
two
things
are
enough.
You
don't
need
to
hang
them
on
the
wall.
C
If
you're
going
to
push
forward
and
still
feel
like
this
is
really
important.
Then
the
very
least
I
would
encourage
an
exemption
for
smaller
landlords
as
opposed
to
big
corporate
ones
or
ones
that
are
out
of
area
or
llc's
or
ones
where
it
may
otherwise
be
difficult
to
find
that
that
contact
information,
but
otherwise
it
just
becomes
a
really
tricky
issue
of
privacy
to
have
a
level
of
of
detail
on
the
wall
when,
in
fact
the
tenants
are
the
ones
that
need
to
know
it,
not
everyone
remaining.
C
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
just
think
through
the
process
of
onboarding,
all
the
buildings
that
are
currently
do
not
have
rops,
and
this
could
be
sending
out
a
letter
to
all
property
owners.
It
could
be
including
something
in
the
water
bill.
C
It
could
be
something
the
mayor
announces
that
as
part
of
this
initiative,
you
feel
like
is
really
important,
and
I'm
well
aware
that
that,
given
the
sheer
number
of
buildings
that
don't
yet
have
rops,
this
may
mean
more
burden
on
the
brc
staff,
and
I
think
one
way
to
alleviate
that
would
be
to
have
a
self-reporting
system
in
place
for
buildings
that
consistently
have
had
their
rops
improved
and
in
place.
So
that
could
be
the
landlord
filling.
C
It
could
be
filming
and
saying:
okay,
here
are
the
smoke
detectors
and
how
they
work.
I
think
that
would
make
things
easier
in
both
directions
where
you
could
get
the
information
you
need.
That
shows
that
these
rop
I
mean
that
the
safety
measures
like
smoke,
detectors
and
carbon
monoxide
detectors
are
in
place
without
needing
any
more
staff
time
and
focusing
on
the
staff
time
on
the
buildings
that
are
truly
problems
as
well
as
the
ones
that
don't
yet
have
rops.
C
E
Can
you
hear
me
hey
good
evening,
I'm
here
to
speak
to
you
in
reference
to
local
law
g,
just
going
to
read
it
from
my
statement.
You
can
stop
me
with
my
time.
I'm.
B
Sorry,
mr
hill,
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
the
chair,
discussed
that
we
were
only
going
to
take
public
comments
for
h.
I
tonight,
because
those
are
the
two
pieces
of
legislation
that's
being
discussed.
So
if
you
have
a
comment
specifically.
E
Which
ones
are
h,
and
I
can
you
just
give
me-
which
ones
are
h
and
I.
B
B
One
surrounds
the
rops
that
are
required.
E
Okay,
that's
the
one,
that's
the
one
that
I'm
responding
to.
That's
the
one
that
where
the
the
codes
building
manager
is
given
emergency,
given
the
the
right
in
emergencies
to
act
is
that
the
one?
Yes?
Okay,
that's
the
one!
I
want
to
speak
in
reference
to
okay
urban
blight
is
a
complex
term
with
multiple
dimensions.
E
There
are
approximately
2100
1030
residential
properties
in
the
city
of
auburn
and,
from
my
estimation,
close
to
a
third
of
them
could
be
deemed
unsafe
and
unfit
if
and
fall
under
either
of
the
categories
that
I
just
talked
about.
E
E
Code
enforcement
has
a
clear
and
specific
mission,
keeping
homes
neighborhoods
and
residents
safe
and
healthy
by
encouraging
the
repair
or
rehabilitation
of
distressed
properties.
Ensuring
vacant
lots
are
clean,
holding
landlords
accountable
and
protecting
low-income
tenants
and
renters.
This
money
was
given
to
the
city
of
albany
through
the
city
rise
program
to
dr
address
our
needs
in
this
community
very
innovatively.
E
I
have
worked
with
some
folks
who
the
mayor
has
brought
on
with
some
of
the
city
rise
money.
The
community
housing
advocate
that's
at
200,
henry
johnson
boulevard
and
some
of
the
people
at
city
hall
who
have
I
I
do.
I'm
the
community
organizer
for
united
tenants
and-
and
I
do
a
lot.
E
I
do
a
lot
of
arbitration
between
tennis
and
landlords.
This
is
a
vital
piece
to
keep
our
job
moving
in
a
direction
where
we
can
constantly
confer
with
city
government
to
help
people
stay
in
their
residences.
Thank
you.
G
Yes,
good
evening,
how
are
you
thank
you
for
your
time.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
I
want
to
teach.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
Just
a
few
things
I
wanted
to
point
out
for
the
the
local
law
h.
I
believe
issue
of
notices
you
have.
It
appears
the
way
I'm
reading
this,
that
no
longer
must
an
owner
get
a
certified
mail
notice.
G
I
would
ask
please
that
you
would
reconsider
that,
because
I
at
many
times
I
don't
get
communications
that
are
left
with
people
working
on
my
building.
It's
just
the
nature
of
the
beast,
so
in
all
the
notice
of
violation
or
a
stop
work
order,
I
would
ask
that
you
please
reconsider
and
do
due
diligence
and
notifying
the
building
owner,
because
if
our
goal
is
to
make
things
better,
that's
not
going
to
help.
G
I
own
a
lot
on
clinton
avenue
it's
hard
to
get
workers
that
are
responsible,
and
it's
also,
you
know
you
have
tenants
that
might
get
the
notice
they
might
let
you
know
they
might
not.
So
I
would
ask
if
you
truly
want
to
make
it
a
better
scenario
that
you
would
do
your
due
diligence
and
certify
the
last
known
address
for
the
owner.
G
Thank
you
for
that.
The
other
thing
I
would
ask
for
rops
the
increase
from
50
to
75,
plus
increasing
or
decreasing
the
time
period.
That's
a
hefty
that
adds
up
to
a
hefty
amount,
you're,
also
proposing
or
a
change
of
tenants.
G
Again,
I
own
a
low
income
area,
and
I
work
with
a
lot
of
challenges
I
could
be
in
and
out
of
a
tenant
three
times
in
a
year
due
to
the
nature
of
I
take
a
lot
of
people
in
that
are
going
through
rehab.
G
So
it's
it's
challenging
and
I
would
ask
that
you
reconsider
that
because,
as
I
look
through
this,
it
looks
like
the
grant
for
the
rops
anyway.
The
grant
has
resulted
in
a
compilation
of
massive
amounts
of
fees
and
fines
and
slap
you
on
the
wrist
things
to
feed
the
owner
to
death.
I
don't
see
anything
in
this
that
works
with
the
property
owner
to
say,
hey.
What
can
we
do
as
a
team
to
make
this
better?
It's
just
no
you're
bad,
no
you're
bad.
You
gotta!
You
gotta,
pay!
G
G
But
that's
this
inspector
was
over
30
minutes
late
and
I
had
to
call
and
ask
where
they
were.
They
made
a
mistake.
Yet
you
folks
want
to
find
me
if
I'm
15
minutes
late,
not
okay,
we
need
to
work
together
and
stop
treating
property
owners
like
we
are
bad
people.
We
are
your
partners,
so
I
ask
with
all
respect,
stop
treating
us
badly,
stop,
feeding
and
finding
us
to
death
work
with
us
and
put
us
on
a
panel
that
you
didn't
do
with
this
to
come
up
with
a
solution.
G
B
H
Good
evening,
everyone
I
was
going
to
talk
tonight.
Danielle
the
city
clerk
told
me
that
this
was
for
local
law
h
and
I
was
actually
going
to
talk
on
local
f,
but
I
see
that
local
rf
is
going
to
be
discussed
on
may
13th
and
so
I'll
hold
my
comments
and
the
reason
I
was
going
to
talk
on
local
law.
I
have,
if
you
remember
the
last
meeting
that
we
had.
I
did
not
get
to
talk
and
when
I
was
notified
I
had
left
the
meeting
so
at
this
time.
H
Thank
you
very
much
joe,
so
I'll
talk
on
my
part
on
the
13th.
Okay,
great.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
mean
thank
you,
thank
you,
council
members,
for
taking
the
time
to
listen.
I
I
appreciate
your
time,
so
I
I
just
want
to
speak
as
a
member
of
qadhafi,
which
is
the
capital
district
association
for
real
property
on
rental
property
owners,
in
that
we
are
opposed
to
local
law
eye
as
small
independent
landlords,
a
group
of
small
independent
landlords,
we're
opposed
to
being
forced
to
display
our
personal
information
in
publicly
accessible
spaces
due
to
privacy
concerns
security
concerns,
identity
theft
concerns
the
new
rop
posting
requirements
is
prejudicial
and
discriminatory
in
against
institutional
entities
that
can
readily
post
place
of
business
information
and
not
personal
information.
I
Tenants
and
building
departments
already
have
contact
information
for
their
landlords
and
don't
need
government
overreach
to
help
manage
their
communications.
Additionally,
any
added
increases
in
cost
for
small,
independent
landlords
like
ourselves,
must
be
passed
along
to
tenants
and
thus
result
in
increases
in
rent,
which
adversely
affect
our
tenants,
stop
fee
and
fining
landlords
and
work
as
in
an
effort,
a
team
effort
with
landlords.
I
Also,
this
proposed
law
penalizes
responsible
landlords
and
property
owners
like
ourselves,
who
already
do
the
right
things
for
our
tenants.
The
city's
focus
should
be
on
the
habitually
irresponsible
landlords
and
not
and
the
bad
actors,
and
not
the
landlords
who
do
the
proper
thing
and
have
all
their
rops
in
place.
So
every
responsible,
landlord
by
extension
of
our
tenant
will
be
negatively
impacted,
and
we
ask
you
to
think
of
that.
I
The
city
is
also
requested
to
share,
if
you
would
any
public
data
that
you
have
that's
being
used
to
determine
that
there
is
a
need
for
these
proposed
law
changes,
because
we're
actually
stumped
as
to
why
these
are
are,
are
urgently
needed
and
seem
to
be
being
pushed
through
with
a
sense
of
dire
urgency.
I
So
with
that,
I
would
say
thank
you
very
much
council
for
your
time
for
the
dogs.
L
Okay,
I'm
with
housing
for
all,
as
is
adrian,
I
want
to
speak
on
the
posting
issue.
First,
I
agree
with
marshall's
final
comments
about.
I
think
a
good
way
of
protecting
smaller
landlords
is
to
put
a
sign
up
somewhere
in
the
building.
Saying
tenants
you
have
a
right
to
this
is
the
following
information:
emergency
contacts
places
to
go.
L
If
you
think
your
rights
are
being
violated,
that
sort
of
thing,
I
think
we
can
work
with
the
landlords
on
that
issue,
I
think
in
general
we
can
work
with
landlords
on
a
lot
of
these
things
and
I
think
we
need
more
opportunities
for
representatives
of
both
sides
to
sit
together.
I
absolutely
agree
with
debbie
and
with
with
karen
a
lot
most
of
the
landlords
in
the
city
are
fine.
Most
of
the
tenants
in
the
city
are
fine.
These
laws
are
aimed
at
bad
actors.
L
It
does
seem
to
the
landlords.
I
guess
that
the
law
is
too
much
aimed
kind
of
like
posing
too
many
good
actors.
Also,
I
think,
where
we
come
from,
is
that
the
people
who,
by
nature
don't
have
the
power
at
this
time
are
tenants
and
we
want
to
give
them
a
little
bit
of
a
leg
up
when
they're
dealing
with
bad
landlords.
L
That's
why
the
post
things?
That's
why
the
emergency
fixing
I've
known
families
who
have
been
evicted
just
you
know
all
of
a
sudden,
because
they
they
couldn't
find
the
owner
to
fix
the
building.
L
So
that's
my
my
two
points
would
be:
let's
have
each
side
talk
to
each
other
and,
let's,
I
guess
that's
the
main
one.
Thank
you.
B
M
Hey
sorry
about
that,
I
I've
had
to
log
on
on
my
phone
yeah
all
these
code
enforcement
requirements
that
yeah
that
are
being
proposed,
and
there
have
been
comments.
I
I
hear
on
you
know
you're
in
90,
now
that
the
majority
of
landlords
are
abiding
by
these
is
the
bad
actors
you
got
to
go
after.
You
know,
look
more
code
enforcement,
I
I
think
works
in
in
everybody's
best
interest.
I
mean
many
of
these
issues
that
you
know
that
seem
to
be.
M
You
know
the
you
know
what
we
keep
hearing
about:
predatory
landlords
or
landlords
that
are
allowing
their
properties
to
go
into
disrepair.
You
know
that
hurts
everyone,
and
so
me,
personally,
I
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
you
know,
with
greater
oversight
on
code
enforcement.
I
I
think
that
improves
you
know
the
the
the
housing
stock
for
everyone.
What
you
know,
what
is
really
destructive
is
the
local
law
f,
and
I
know
this
isn't
about
that.
You
know
about
that
law,
but
you
know
the
the
whole
good
cause.
M
Okay,
well,
that's
the
one
that
I'm
objecting
to
so
I've
said
my
peace.
B
B
Comments,
if
you'd
like
me
to
share
those
yes.
B
She
supports
all
of
the
legislation,
f
g
h
and
I
notice
and
enforcement
of
co-violation
and
changes
to
rop,
which
gives
the
power
to
the
building
to
to
the
building
department
to
act
in
emergencies.
In
my
professional
life,
I've
worked
in
the
affordable
housing
and
community
development
world
for
over
20
years,
covering
these
topics
nationally.
B
J
B
Stronger
city,
please
do
not
be
scared
of
landlords
claiming
the
world
will
fall
apart
with
with
this.
It
won't.
However,
it
is
true
that
many
smaller
local
landlords
have
been
hurt
by
the
pandemic
economic
crash,
as
their
tenants
have
been.
We
should
use
recovery
money
to
target
relief
to
these
landlords,
and
we
should
look
ahead
to
programs
to
help
smaller
landlords
bring
their
buildings
up
to
code
in
exchange
for
keeping
their
units
affordable
going
forward.
B
In
the
meantime,
modernizing
our
code
enforcement
and
strengthening
our
tenant
protections
is
essential,
as
we
head
into
a
time
that
is
likely
to
involve
a
lot
of
housing,
court
activity
and
building
turnover.
The
city
will
be
grateful
to
have
acted
now
not
later
on
these
matters.
This
one
is
from
thomas
vandoor
of
50
twiller
street.
B
I
I
am
opposed
to
local
law.
I
one
as
a
small,
independent
landlord.
I
am
opposed
to
being
forced
to
display
my
personal
information
and
the
personal
information
of
emergency
backup
people
who
might
be
private
friends
or
family
members
in
publicly
accessible
spaces
due
to
privacy,
concerns
security
concerns
and
identity
theft
concerns.
B
The
new
rop
posting
requirement
is
prejudicial
and
discriminatory
against
small
mom-and-pop
landlords,
who
are
not
corporations
or
institutional
entities
that
can
readily
post
place
of
business
information
and
not
personal
information.
Tenants
in
the
building
department
already
have
contact
information
for
their
landlords
and
don't
need
government
overreach
to
help
manage
their
communications.
B
Any
added
regulatory
costs
for
small,
independent
landlords
must
be
passed
along
to
tenants
and
thus
results
in
increases
in
rent,
which
adversely
affects
our
tenants.
This
proposed
law
penalizes
responsible
landlords
and
property
owners
like
me,
who
already
do
right
by
our
tenants.
The
city's
focus
should
be
on
habitually
irresponsible
landlords
and
bad
actors
who
do
not
have
rops
not
on
landlords
who
do
have
rops
every
responsible
landlord
and,
by
extension,
our
tenants
will
be
negatively
impacted.
B
The
city
of
albany
is
requested
to
share
publicly
all
of
the
data
that
has
been
used
to
determine
that
there
is
a
need
for
the
proposed
changes
to
the
law.
The
city
also
should
share
the
sources
of
the
data
and
who
analyzed
the
data
and
suggested
that
the
current
laws
are
insufficient
in
their
existing
format.
B
B
Unfortunately,
many
rental
units
in
the
city
of
albany
do
not
have
the
required
rops,
because
some
landlords
have
ignored
the
requirements
with
little
or
no
penalty.
The
result
has
been
bad
for
the
tenants
who
move
into
these
apartments
and
for
the
neighborhoods
that
continue
to
be
impacted
by
the
deteriorating
housing
stock.
We
believe
that
having
the
ropes
posted
in
the
buildings
with
the
names
of
the
owner
and
person
authorized
to
act
in
an
emergency
with
the
necessary
contact,
information
is
an
important
step
toward
holding
owners
accountable
and
ensuring
that
the
rop
process
is
open.
B
B
In
response
to
this
concern,
there
was
a
recommendation
that
for
owner
occupant
landlords
and
small
local
landlords,
with
less
than
10
units,
excluding
llc's,
the
necessary
rop
information,
could
be
given
to
tenants
as
in
lease
addendum
or
if
no
lease,
then
in
a
folder.
However,
there
must
be
a
notice
publicly
displayed
stating
that
tenants
must
be
in
possession
of
the
required
rop
information.
B
We
have
about
four
more
written
comments.
Next
one
is
from
betty
and
ben
ware,
I'm
opposed
to
local,
I,
as
a
small,
independent
landlord.
I
am
opposed
to
being
forced
to
display
my
personal
information
and
the
personal
information
of
emergency
backup
people
who
might
be
private
friends
or
family
in
publicly
accessible
spaces
due
to
privacy
concerns
security
concerns
and
identity
theft.
The
new
rop
posting
requirement
is
presidential
and
discriminatory
against
small
mom-and-pop
landlords,
who
are
not
corporations
or
institutional
entities
that
can
readily
post
place
of
business
information
and
not
personal
information.
B
Tenants
in
the
building
department
already
have
contact
information
for
their
landlords
and
don't
need
government
overreach
to
help
manage
their
communications.
Any
added
regulatory
costs
for
small,
independent
landlords
must
be
placed
along
to
tenants
and
thus
results
in
increases
in
rent,
which
adversely
affects
our
tenants.
This
proposed
law
penalizes
responsible
landlords
and
property
owners
like
me,
who
already
do
right
by
our
tenants.
B
The
city's
focus
should
be
on
habitually
irresponsible
landlords
and
bad
actors
who
do
not
have
rops
it's
not
on
landlords
who
do
have
rops
every
responsible
landlord
and,
by
extension,
our
tenants
will
be
negatively
impacted.
The
city
of
albany
is
requested
to
share
publicly
all
of
the
data
that
has
been
used
to
determine
that
there
is
a
need
for
the
proposed
changes
to
the
law.
The
city
also
should
share
the
sources
of
the
data
and
who
analyzed
the
data
and
suggested
that
the
current
laws
are
insufficient
in
their
existing
format.
B
Please
advise
where
this
information
is
located
for
the
public
to
review,
I'm
speaking
to
subsection
231-135
the
proposed
14-day
and
30-day
times
from
date
of
mailing
do
not
provide
sufficient
time
for
small
mom-and-pop
landlords
to
fix
issues
that
may
be
cited
for
urgent
issues.
The
notion
that
14
days
are
actually
being
provided
to
fix
a
problem
is
misleading.
K
With
respect
to
posting
and
personal
information,
or
even
company
information,
I'm
not
sure
where
the
impetus
comes
from,
and
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
how
this
came
about.
Every
every
property
is
leased
to
to
to
a
renter
and
all
that
information
is
provided
at
the
time
of
lease.
Quite
frankly,
if
somebody
is
contacting
their
the
company
or
the
individual
who
owns
their
their
rental
unit
for
assistance
or
for
payment
or
for
whatever
it
would
be
absurd
to
suggest
that
the
average
renter
doesn't
have
contact
information
for
the
person
that
they
rented
it
from.
K
If
there's
a
legitimate
agreement
and
financial
relationship,
there
would
have
to
be
contact
information.
I
don't
understand
where
this
comes
from
with
respect
to
posting
things
in
on
the
building.
I
I
don't
see
why
that
would
be
necessary,
because
the
city
has
a
database
of
all
these
things,
and
in
today's
days
you
could
easily
be
mobile
for
inspectors
who
would
benefit
from
that
information,
and
I
think
that
really
shouldn't
be
on
the
property
owner
to
put
forward.
I
think
that
would
be
on
the
basis
to
you
know.
C
K
As
the
comments
that
were
just
read,
you
know,
the
people
who
are
responding
here
are
those
who
are
doing
the
right
thing
and
we
don't
understand
why
all
of
this
would
be
necessary.
Also,
you
know
just
with
respect
to
timelines
and
repairs,
and
all
these
things
are
important.
Everybody
wants
everything
fixed.
I
will
tell
you,
though,
I've
received,
you
know
letters
from
december
in
march,
asking
things
to
be
fixed
from
the
city
and
again
I
think
it's
a
two-way
street.
K
I
think
good
communication
solves
these
problems,
not
legislation,
and
the
last
thing
is
that
many
proponents
of
local
all
the
proposed
local
laws
are
suggesting
that
there
are
no
recourse
for
renters
or
neighbors
to
request
that
problem
property
to
be
addressed,
but
that's
simply
untrue.
K
Anybody
who's
contacted
mr
la
joy
or
anybody
else
in
code
knows
that
they
are
responsive
and
have
certain
remedies
already
available
to
them
under
existing
law.
So
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
these.
New
laws
are
very
duplicative,
some
of
which
were
were
dramatically
reinforced
under
the
2019
housing
and
tenant
stabilization
law.
So
I
feel
like
we're
reinventing
the
wheel,
but
without
need
to
do
so
and
that
these
remedies
are
available
at
present.
B
So,
mr
chair,
we
have
three
more
written
comments.
John
parity
of
385,
mccormick
road
albany
new
york
repeats
betty
and
ben
ware's
comment
verbatim,
as
does
shaun
d
of
52,
mikhail
wayne,
cajo's
new
york
and
I've
already
read
those
comments
for
the
record.
B
Steve
tenorwix,
a
13
myrtle
ave
has
a
comment
which
reads
as
follows:
I'm
writing
to
the
council
as
a
taxpayer
and
landlord.
I
am
against
the
proposed
rop
changes.
I've
been
a
landlord
for
many
years
in
the
city.
I
think
rop
changes
will
really
be
a
hit
against
small
landlords
who
are
readily
available
to
most
tenants
anyway.
The
changes
also
do
nothing
to
deal
with
the
irresponsible
landlords
and
those
without
rops.
B
As
you
know,
there
are
considerable
number
of
bad
landlords
throughout
the
city
who
this
won't
really
apply
to.
They
will
continue
to
act
illegally
and
evict
who
they
please
and
not
respond
to
tenants
who
live
in
their
buildings.
I
live
in
the
south
end
and
there
are
plenty
of
landlords
won't
comply
and
the
city
will
do
zilch.
The
city
needs
to
rethink
the
approach
and
come
up
with
better
solutions.
Thank
you,
and
that
was
steve.
Tenorwood
and
that's
all
that
I
have
I'm
not
sure
if
john
raphael
has.
A
Well,
no
new
ones:
okay,
if
they
weren't
signed
up
or
they'd,
have
to
come
back
next
week
at
this
time.
I
just
want
to
make
make
known
the
members
that
have
showed
up
at
the
meeting
weren't
here
before
richard
conte,
kathy
fahey,
judy
doshay,
kelly
kimbrough,
alfredo
ballerin,
and
I
think
that
is
it
so
at
this
time
I
want
to
move
on
to.
A
You
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
see
you
there
say
a
second
ago
on
the
car
the
other
way.
So
if
we
go
with
start
off
with
local
lh
being
sponsored
by
councilman
inane.
O
Hey
doing
chair,
I
hope
everyone
is
doing
well
and
first,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
public
for
their
feedback
on
all
of
the
legislation,
so
my
bill
more
so
deals
with
unsafe
unfit
properties.
O
This
proposal
supports
buildings
department
ability
to
stop
illegal
building,
work
that
present
immediate
health
and
safety
threat
to
residents
who
live
in
the
vicinity
of
the
building.
O
O
Ultimately,
this
legislation
help
tenants
and
benefit
neighborhoods
by
reducing
displacement
of
tenants
from
unsafe
buildings
and
who
are
often
left
with
no
other
option,
but
to
stay
at
a
homeless,
shelter
or
in
some
other
emergency
housing.
This
legislation
further
helps
them
the
abandonment
of
buildings
in
our
neighborhoods.
O
Quite
frankly,
and
the
mayor
said
it
and
many
of
my
colleagues
who
were
at
the
press
conference
a
couple
of
months
ago
said
it.
Inaction
is
not
a
choice.
Our
community
needs
all
property
owners,
and
especially
financial
institutions,
to
take
a
proactive
role
to
ensure
that
these
properties
are
taken
care
of,
and,
if
that's
not
possible,
they
should
sell
it
to
someone
who
will
take
the
responsibility
of
owning
the
property.
O
I
actually
had
to
assist
that
tenant
with
making
sure
that
they
have
found
a
emergency
shelter
place
where
a
landlord
was
having
dispute
with
the
tenant
and
the
tenant
was
actually
paying
rent
for
12
months
straight
no
issue.
All
of
a
sudden,
the
landlord
just
wanted
to
turn
it
out
a
couple
of
weeks
later,
all
of
a
sudden
there's
an
emergency
with
the
boiler
there's
an
emergency
and
the
landlord.
O
In
my
opinion,
I
believe
use
that
as
a
tool
to
evict
the
tenants,
and
that
is
not
right
and
that's
why
I
support
this
legislation
because
again,
if
the
landlord-
and
I
think
also
this
benefits
the
property
owners,
if
they
don't
have
the
financial
means
to
fix
the
property,
the
city
with
the
rise
grant
won't
thank
the
attorney
general
for
this
major
contribution
is
going
to
use
that
money
to
fix
that
property
and
bill
the
property
owner
in
the
back
end.
O
A
property
owner
cannot,
just
you,
know,
destroy
their
property
and
attempt
to
evict
a
tenant,
and
I
witnessed
this
a
couple
of
months
ago
with
a
constituent
of
mine
and
when
I
reached
out
to
building
the
codes
and
also
with
the
administration,
we
had
to
do
something
about
it.
I
know
change
is
hard,
but
ultimately
government
officials.
We
must
act
on
the
behalf
of
the
residents
of
our
city.
O
A
Now,
I'd
like
to
start
off
keep
the
floor
next
to
all
members
of
the
committee
first
and
then
go
on
to
other
council
members.
So
anyone
on
the
committee
mike
o'brien,
I'm
new
yeah.
F
I
like
john
o'grady's
proposal
and
he's,
and
he
said
that
he
also
works
with
the
with
adrian
hill
united
tenants,
and
he
suggested
some
sort
of
an
informal
working
group
of
property
owners
and
tenants,
which
I
think
is
probably
a
good
idea.
I
don't
know
how
to
incorporate
it.
This
is
more
with
a
lot
with
this
is
more
with
the
ro.
Well,
I
guess
it
could
apply
to
both
h
h
and
I,
but
I
like
that
idea.
I
think
it
has
some
merit.
F
F
A
Q
Q
Okay,
I'm
sorry
I'm
having
technical
issues.
I
guess
two
things.
Q
One,
I
I
think
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
address
these
issues
and
be
able
to
have
them
correct
it
and
then
give
the
owners
the
the
time.
I
think
legislation
to
collect
it
on
some
of
these
issues.
When,
when
you
just
leave
it,
you
know
they
don't
get
correct
and
that's
the
problem.
Q
You
really
are
creating
an
issue,
a
situation
where
you
have
tenants
that
are
not
in
a
you
know,
substantial
situation.
So
I
I
think
it's
important
that
the
property
owners
know
that
you've
got
to
fix
your
bodies.
I
mean
there's
just
no.
No,
you
know
no,
no
question
about
it.
If
you're
gonna
have
people
live
in
these
properties,
if
you're
gonna
have
rent
them
out,
you've
got
to
maintain
them,
and
if
you
and
I'm
okay,
with
the
suggestion
that
the
property
owner
should
also
get
a
notice,
I'm
okay
with
that.
Q
Q
Not
dealt
with
in
a
timely
manner,
I
mean
these
are
safety
issues
for
the
individuals
that
are
living
there
and
it's
also
about
the
neighborhood.
You
know
how
does
these?
How
do
these
violations
affect
neighborhoods
that
we're
all
trying
to
improve?
So
I
support
it.
I'm
I
I'm
okay
with
some
of
the
suggestions
that
were
said
by
some
of
the
speakers
to
to
try
to
address
it
and
try
to
make
it
so
that
the
owners
get
notification
as
well.
Q
A
Okay,
any
other
community
members,
I
don't
see
any
hands
up,
I
can
sponsor
go
ahead
and
we'll
say
you
want
to
tie
it
up.
O
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
motion
to
move
it
out
of
committee
with
a
favorable
recommendation.
B
I'm
sorry,
mr
chair,
I
believe
council
member
conte
had
his
hand
up
as
if
he.
R
Yeah
I
was
using
the
raised
hand
function,
which
I
thought
was
the
way
we
should
be
doing
it.
I'm
sorry,
maybe
I
should
just
blur
it
out.
I
did
have
a
question,
though
I
mean
what
are
the
issues
and
I
see
judy
also
has
her
hand
up.
One
of
the
questions
or
issues
coming
came
up
during
public
comment
was
the
form
of
notification
and
the
use
of
certified
mail
versus
a
regular
mail.
I
guess
or
etcetera.
I
gather
previously
was
done
by
certified
mail.
R
Is
there
a
reason
why
and
maybe
rick
or
rob
can
address
that
issue?
The
using
certified
mail
is
the
appropriate
form
of
notices,
of
violation
to
the
owner
versus
other
forms.
D
Yeah,
it
was
the
intent
to
continue
using
certified
mail
just
to
open
up
the
number
or
the
the
addresses
that
certified
mail
could
go
to.
I
think
there
was
a
drafting
error,
specifically
just
referring
to.
C
D
D
It
should
have
said
that
under
1338-2a
as
well,
I'm
not
sure
how
that
slipped
through
the
cracks,
but
it
was
always
the
intent
to
send
it
by
certified
mail.
Well,.
D
R
Okay,
I
had
another
question
and
this
relates
to
actually
a
question
that
judy
had
raised
in
one
of
her
emails
to
you,
which
I
believe
all
members
were
copied
on
and
then
you
did
the
follow-up
memo
which
I
believe
all
members
received.
R
This
was
on
local
law
h
and
the
question
was
regarding
the
building
authorities,
the
building
department's
authority
under
chapter
20,
which
I
think
there
is
some
confusion
there
and
which
led
me
to
remember,
which
I
have
language
that
every
now
and
then
I
find
as
I
go
through
my
papers
when
we
were
doing
the
usdo
back
in
2017.
R
In
addition
to
the
actual
usdo
chapter
375,
there
were,
there
were
a
whole
bunch
of
wraparound
amendments
in
that
ordinance
there
was
about
30
or
40
pages
of
you
know,
amendments
that
were
never
really
discussed
in
committee,
but
dave
gonzalez
and
I
at
the
time,
worked
on
revising
that
some
things
fell
out.
One
of
the
items
that
fell
out
were
amendments
to
chapter
20,
basically
to
to
move
the
chapter
20
provisions
over
to
chapter
42,
so
it
all
be
consolidated
and
do
some
updating.
R
D
R
So
I
have
that
language
which
I
believe
was
you
know
also
supposed
to.
I
think
some
of
the
cross-references
in
the
usda
are
incorrect,
because
we
didn't
do
that
and
I
only
have
hard
copy
of
the
language
I
meant
to
try
to
you
know
put
together
as
far
as
at
some
point,
but
it's
been
sitting
with
me
for
since
2017..
R
Does
it
make
sense
then
to
try
to
incorporate
this
into
local
rh
and
get
it
all
done?
Otherwise
this
is
just
going
to
sit
for
another
four
or
five
years.
D
R
Yeah,
it
was
dave,
it's
not
drafted
properly,
but
it
was
something
that
dave
gonzalez
put
together
at
the
time.
As
I
say,
I
only
have
the
hard
copy
for
whatever
reason-
and
I
you
know-
okay,
it
might
make
sense
to
look
at
that
and
see
if
it
can
be
incorporated
into
a
local
age.
D
R
D
R
J
You
know
we
could
probably
you
know,
go
through
an
entire
list
like
that,
and
I'm
just
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
you're
going
to
take
a
look
at
this,
because
I'm
really
uncomfortable
with
having
one
working
on
one
piece
of
legislation
that
is
assigning
certain
responsibilities
to
the
chief
building
official
without
referencing,
where
that
position
is
created
number
one,
and
maybe
you
know
that
already
exists,
someplace
in
chapter
133
or
133.
J
Well,
it
wouldn't
be
in
133a
and
having
some
of
those
responsibilities
be
directly
in
conflict
with
a
commissioner
of
buildings,
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
has
been
somewhat
an
issue
of
debate
for
about
eight
years,
whether
or
not
there's
going
to
be
a
commissioner
buildings.
J
I
think
that
it's
time
to
bite
the
bullet
and
just
say,
if
there's
not
going
to
be
a
commissioner
of
buildings
and
let's
eliminate
all
of
the
language
associated
with
that,
I
note
that
richard
conte's
local
law
that
we're
not
discussing
tonight
does
what
does
take
care
of
that
eliminating
a
reference
to
a
commissioner
of
buildings.
So
I
would
prefer
to
see
as
long
as
we're
tinkering
with
so
much
of
these
statutes.
At
the
moment,
I
would
love
to
see
all
of
that
cleared
up
at
this
point.
J
I
had
noted
in
my
email
and
rob
you
indicated
so
one
of
the
things
that
happens
with
the
drafting
in
this
legislation
is
in
some
cases
it's
referring
to
the
housing
code,
some
places
it's
referring
to
a
violation
of
this
code,
a
violation
of
all
notices
issued
pursuant
to
chapter
133
or
231
another
place.
It
refers
to.
J
The
uniform
fire
prevention
building
code
other
laws.
This
code,
then
doesn't
mention
the
usdo
there
unless
there's
a
real
intent
to
mean
something
different
in
each
one
of
these
places.
I
think
that
it
creates
a
lot
of
ambiguity
and
a
lot
of
confusion,
and
I
would
like
some
terminology
just
to
be
used
consistently,
so
that
I
mean
maybe
maybe
there's
a
place
where
you
add
a
definition.
J
You
know
for
this
particular
article
when
we
refer
to
operations
of
this
code.
We
mean
usda
this
that
and
that
you
know,
and
everything
and
list
everything
that
the
commissioner
is
responsible
for
enforcing
in
this.
Let
me
see-
and
I
noted
that
in
the
scope
chapter
231
had
been
deleted
in
the
scope,
and
you
said
that
that
was
just
a
drafting
error
that
so
that
needs
to
be
addressed
before
this
is
passed
out
of
committee
or
needs
to
be
noted.
As
an
amendment.
J
And-
and
then
I
also
had
in
with
regard
to
133
a
dash
b,
I
noted
that
there
were
some
of
these
same
shorthand
kinds
of
uses
that
you
agreed
added
to
some
ambiguity,
so
those
are
just
some.
J
Drafting
issues
that
I
think
need
to
be
addressed,
and
otherwise
I.
J
Didn't
really
notice
anything.
There
is
also
section:
3
refers
to
this
ordinance
she'll
take
effect
and
I
think
it
needs
to
say
local
law,
because
I
understand
that,
probably
in
an
earlier
draft,
this
was
an
ordinance
and
now
it's
a
local,
and
now
it
is
a
local
law.
So
those
are
my
comments
on
this.
A
Rob
about
to
question
the
ambiguity
of
the
commissioner
and
the
building.
Okay,.
D
Yeah,
so
the
the
update
uses
the
term
chief
building
official,
which
is
meant.
I,
as
I
understand
it,
to
be
applied
without
reference
to
a
specific
title,
so
it
could
apply
to
a
commissioner
or
director
or
whatever.
The
name
of
the
the
head
of
the
building
department
is
so
that's
why
that
that
term
was
used,
and
that
is
also
the
term
that's
used
in
the
usdo.
D
Yeah,
we
could
do
something
like
that.
Well,.
A
D
That's
an
easy
fix.
There
may
be
even
be
a
definition
in
the
usc
already
that
they
could
just
be
incorporated.
F
N
Yes
and
thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
by
the
way
I
didn't
get
noticed
of
this
meeting
today,
I
had
a
hard
time
getting
in
with
zoom
I
mean
I
could
have
gotten
in
through
facebook,
so
I'm
a
little
bit
tense
on
that,
but
you
know
I
I
agree
with
councilman
o'brien
that
there
should
be
a
group
put
together.
N
I've
gotten
more
mail
about
these.
These
changes,
I'm
talking
about
regular
mail,
I've
gotten
dozens
of
cards
and
letters
and
phone
calls
and
people
are
very
tense
and
upset,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
before
we
do
anything
that
that
we
think
this
out
and
that
we
hear
from
all
sides-
and
you
know,
having
a
meeting
that
was
very
hard
to
get
into
even
for
a
councilman.
N
It
makes
me
a
little
bit
nervous,
so
my
feeling
is
that
we
should
try
to
put
something
together,
like
the
gentleman
said
and
mike
o'brien
brought
up.
Thank
you.
S
Yep,
just
for
all
the
comments
being
made
about
the
various
language
changes
and
amendments
curious
to
know-
and
I
guess
I'll
turn
to
the
sponsor,
are
we
making
those
changes
as
amended?
Are
we
looking?
Are
you
looking
to
vote
on
it
today?
Are
you
looking
to
make
those
amendments
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
and
then
discuss
further.
O
First,
just
to
say
thank
you
and
it's
a
valid
amendments
and
recommendations
that
have
been
put
forward
by
judy
and
also
richard
conte,
and
I'm
okay,
with
tabling
it
for
further
discussion
and
also
further
amendments.
There's
no
rush
as
relates
to
that,
but
I
also
want
to
clear
something
up,
as
it
relates
to
communication
with
landlords
right
during
this
package
that
was
introduced,
we
asked
over
30
landlords
to
participate
in
discussions
over
16
actually
showed
up,
and
we
had
meaningful
discussions.
O
We
also
invited
the
capital
district
association
of
rental
property
owners
and
they
actually
refused.
So
I
don't
want
people
to
think
that
we
haven't
reached
out
to
landlords
in
our
city.
We
reached
out
to
over
30
and
16
actually
showed
up
and
were
part
of
the
discussion
and
also
another
comment
that
was
made
earlier
during
public
comment.
Is
that
you
know
the
privacy
aspect
of
posting
our
ropes.
I
want
to
just
make
it
clear
that
posting
the
rops
is
not
meant
for
just
tenants.
O
It's
also
meant
for
first
responders
in
case
of
emergency
when
they
attend
some
of
these
buildings
and
there's
fire
or
it's
just
a
property
that
needs
to
come
down.
So
again,
it's
not
just
for
the
tenants,
but
it's
also
for
first
responders
and
the
last
thing
too,
as
it
relates
to
you
know
the
commissioner
position
or
as
a
director
of
buildings.
I
I
support
making
rick
lejoy,
actually,
the
commission
of
buildings.
O
I
strongly
think
commission
is
the
right
title
for,
quite
frankly,
one
of
the
finest
staffers
we
have
in
the
city
of
albany.
So
I
just
wanna
throw
it
out
there
and
thank
you
for.
A
F
And
could
I
also
get
like
bob
mcgee's
opinion
on
an
advisory
board,
as
suggested
by
a
couple
of
the
speakers,
and
how
or
should
that
be
put
into
the
legislation
since
bob,
I
believe,
you're,
the
guy
who's
going
to
rework
all
the
drafting
issues
that
richard
and
judy
brought
up.
D
Yeah,
like
council
member
nanny,
said
we
did
host.
I
mean
these.
All
these
proposals
came
out
of.
You
know
dozens
of
community
engagement
sessions
that
we
had
as
part
of
the
city's
rise
program,
but
we
can,
you
know
we
can
set
up
another
advisory
panel
type
situation.
I'm
not
sure
how
the
common
council
would
like
us
to
go
about
that.
Who
would
you
know
who
we
would
want
to
invite
them?
You
know
I
haven't
done
this
many
times
before,
so
I'm
open
to.
F
A
O
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
mike
as
long
as
I'm
holding
up
the
legislation,
I'm
all
for
it.
Oh.
F
O
No
totally,
I
agree
mike
because
there's
other
legislation
that's
going
to
be
coming
up.
There
are
some
of
my
constituents
that
want
me
to
revisit
the
group
of
law.
I
mean
there's
a
whole
host
of
things,
so
it'll
be
good
to
have
landlords
and
community
in
the
open
discussion
moving
forward
from
now
on,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
mike.
A
Okay,
that's
it
for,
for
a
proposed
local
age.
Can
we
get
on
to
local
law
eye
now?
Can
we
start
with
the
sponsor
kathy
fahey.
T
Thanks
joe,
so
this
is
a
very
this
legislation.
It
includes
some
very
important
and
updates
to
the
residential
occupancy
program,
and
you
know
all
you
have
to
do
is
well
first,
I
should
say
that
we
have
you,
know
many
responsible
landlords,
so
everything
we
do
here.
They
need
to
be
taken
into
consideration,
but,
of
course,
most
of
these
parts
of
this
legislation.
T
You
know
it
is
directed
at
those
landlords
who
are
quote-unquote
bad
actors,
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
it
does
is
getting
that
contact
information.
I
know
that
there's
been
many
times
that
that
the
administration
has
tried
to
track
down
landlords
and
and
with
a
great
deal
of
difficulty,
so
putting
those
that
essential
information,
a
copy
of
the
license,
the
social
security
number,
the
emergency
contacts.
T
You
know
if
it's
a
a
corporation
or
an
llc
llc,
getting
that
ein
number.
You
know
getting
that
information
to
contact
these.
These
landlords
is
essential
and
also
just
to
address
the
posting,
the
rop.
T
I
I
think
it's
very
important
that
it
be
that
people
who
go
into
that
apartment
and
are
considering
renting
and
the
people
who
live
there
know
that
it
is
up.
You
know
the
code.
Has
codes
has
inspected
it.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
T
T
As
far
as
the
contact
information,
I
do
understand
the
privacy
concerns,
but
people
have
got,
there's
got
to
be
a
way
for
people
who
need
the
information
to
get
it,
whether
there's
a
phone
number
that
they
can
get
it
from
the
city.
I'm
really
open
to
discussion
on
that
aspect,
but
as
far
as
the
actual
posting
that
that
it's
up
to
date,
I
think
that
needs
to
be
there
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
You
know,
poster
size.
It
can
be
something
rather
small,
but
people
need
to
know.
T
Now,
as
far
as
the
lowering
the
you
know,
the
time
that
it's
that
they
do,
the
res
three
inspections
from
30
to
24
months,
I
think
that
makes
sense
because
of
all
the
turnover
that
there
is
in
rental
properties.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
city
stay
on
top
of
of
the
condition
of
these
of
these
rental
dwellings.
We
owe
it
to
the
tenants
and
as
far
as
changes
in
fees
hundred
dollars
for
the
first
time
and
then
subsequent
ones
are
50..
T
You
know
I
I
do.
I
was
listening
to
the
woman
who
said
well.
She
has
tenants,
sometimes
she'll
have
a
new
tenant
coming
in
every
couple
months,
and
I
do
realize
that
you
know
I'm
thinking.
Yes,
that
will
get
more
expensive,
but
then
I
have
to
ask
the
question:
why
is
there
that
kind
of
turnover-
and
I-
and
I
would
ask
you-
know
I'd,
ask
rick
and
or-
and-
and
you
know
how
often
does
that
happen
here-
is
that
is
that
something
that
a
lot
of
landlords
experience?
So
I
think
they
need.
T
We
need
to
have
a
little
more
discussion
on
that
issue.
But
again
this
is.
These.
Are
businesses
and
that
does
not
you
know
the
hundred
dollars
for
the
first
time
fifty
dollars
ongoing?
That
would
be
one.
You
know
paying
it
once
every
24
months
when,
unless
there's
been
a
change
in
tenancy
it
you
know
these
are
businesses
and
we
have
to
and
even
for
the
smaller
landlords.
T
I
don't
think
it's
that
fee
is
too
arduous
300
for
no
shows
I
mean
we
all
know
how
much
it
cost
the
city
to
go
out
and
do
the
inspection,
so
people
aren't
showing
up
for
the
scheduled
inspection.
You
know
there
should
be.
They
should
be
fine
for
that.
In
my
opinion,
let's
see,
oh
as
far
as
the
reminders.
T
That's
that's.
I
think
something
that
we
need
to
discuss.
Also
I
I
know
the
director
rick
lejoy
was
saying
that
they
sent
if
people
do
miss
the
reinspection
scheduling
the
re-inspection
after
the
24
months
that
they
will
get
a
notice
telling
them
that
they're
late
and
then
they
have
x
number
of
days.
But
I
you
know
again,
I
I
do
agree
that
you
know.
If
we
can,
why
not
do
some
kind
of
a
email
notice?
I
mean
that's
something
that
isn't
costly.
T
It
is
more
time
by
the
administration,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
cost
of
of
you
know
sending
out
a
letter
if
we
are
going
to
be
following
it
up
with
a
a
letter.
You
know
if
they
haven't
if
they're
late.
So
I
think
we
need
to
discuss
that
a
little
bit
more.
Is
it
something
that
we
could
do
that
wouldn't
be
too
much
of
a
too
much
of
a
hardship
and
cost
to
the
city,
and
then
the
power
to
this
also
includes
power
to
revoke
an
rlp.
T
I
think
that's
an
important
power
to
have
as
far
as
health
and
safety
of
our
our
tenants.
So
there's
a
lot
in
here.
It's
long
overdue.
A
lot
of
these
things.
I
know
a
great
deal
of
time
has
been
spent
in
in
by
housing
for
all
and
in
our
administration,
coming
up
with
this
new
new
piece
of
legislation
on
our
rental
dwelling
units
and
our
rop
program,
and
I
hope
that
we
could
have
more
discussion
on
this
and
then
and
then
hopefully
pass
it.
Thank
you.
A
D
I
think
councilmember
feige
summed
it
up
very
well.
I
don't
have
much
to
add
beyond
that.
I
mean
one
thing
I
will
say
about
the
landlord
contact
information
being
included
on
the
rp
and
then
posting
the
rop
at
the
building
is
that
the
landlord
would
be
able
to
provide
whatever
contact
information,
whatever
phone
number
they
wanted
to
as
long
as
they
responded
to
that
number,
when
they
were
called
we're,
not
asking
for
you
know
their
home
address
or
anything
like
that.
D
That's
all
that's
being
asked
with
that
particular
provision,
and
I
do
think
it's
important.
I
mean
in
many
cases
that
information
is
on
file,
but
but
the
reality
is
that
you
know
the
times
you
need
it
most.
It's
going
to
be
off
hours.
The
office
is
going
to
close
be
closed.
There
are
going
to
be
technology,
you
know
technical
difficulties,
accessing
information,
information
and
things
like
that,
and
when
you
need
that
phone
number
you
need
to,
you
do
genuinely
need
it.
D
So
that
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
the
changes
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
A
P
In
the
closet,
it's
been
a
couple
of
years
of
a
lot
of
community
engagement
with
landlords
and
with
tenants
and
advocacies.
You
know
for
both
you
know.
So
again,
none
of
this
was
done
in
a
vacuum
or
should
have
been
a
surprise
to
you
know
everybody,
and
I
believe
there
are
still
things
that
we
can
tweak
and
you
know,
make
better
and
and
deal
with,
and
I
yeah
I
believe
we
can
do
those
ongoing.
P
So
even
if
the
legislation
itself
passed
through,
you
know
whether
that
you
know
the
the
federal
id
number
or
whatever
might
have
to
be
on
the
back
on
an
rop
can
physically
be
on
the
back
of
an
rop
so
that
it's
not
everybody
is
looking
at
it,
but
as
the
if
a
first
responder
or
somebody
shows
up
and
needs
any
of
that
information.
P
You
know
you
take
the
rop
off
the
wall
and
you
look
on
the
back.
I
mean
there's
ways
to
address
these
things.
You
know
the
cost
of
the
somebody
misspoke
earlier
and
said
the
rop
was
being
shortened
to
24
months
and
increasing
to
75
that's
incorrect.
It
was
staying
at
50
and
we
haven't
had
an
increase
in
almost
nine
years.
I
think
in
cost,
but
it
it
does
cost
the
department.
Quite
a
bit
to
you
know,
do
all
this
stuff.
P
A
Thank
you
rick.
I
know
we've
been
working
on
this.
Richard
will
tell
us
that
we've
been
looking
at
some
of
this
for
12
years,
trying
to
track
down
owners
of
you
know
the
abandoned
houses,
those
with
the
exes
on
it.
We
sent
the
police
out
and
everything
else.
I
think
we're
inching
closer
to
getting
a
better
product,
richard
you're,
the
next
one
up
and
then
michael
bryan
and
sonia.
I
see
your
hands
up
richard.
R
S
S
I
do
think
there
are
some
considerations
that
need
to
be
done
to
the
communication
piece,
particularly
with
the
concerns
about
you
know,
identity,
theft
or
information,
and
so
you
know
I'm
in
support
of
this
legislation,
but
if
there's
ways
to
have
the
template
be
so
that
certain
things
are
shown
on
the
front
and
on
the
back
I
like
that
idea,
or
likewise
you
know,
having
that
just
the
phone
number
best
contact
and
maybe
emergency
contact
if
that
comes
into
play
on
the
back
something
of
the
sort,
so
that
people
don't
feel
like
their
information
is
being
exposed,
particularly
probably
to
people
who
come
in
and
out
of
a
home
that
don't
necessarily
live
there.
R
Thanks
so
I
have
a
couple
of
questions,
and
some
of
them
is
just
some
background.
Information
to
help
me
understand
some
of
the
process
more.
I
think
it's
important
to
post
the
rops
so
that
tenants
also
know
that
the
building
has
been
inspected.
So
you
know
definitely
support
that
provision
in
terms
of
the
contact
information.
R
Are
we
talking
about
the
need
to
have
a
name
or
just
a
phone
number
is
adequate
as
far
as
emergency
contact
and
do
do
first
responders
use
that,
in
terms
of
when
they're
responding
at
a
building,
do
they
either
reach
out
to
brick
to
you
or
whatever
if
they
need
contact
information.
P
Yes,
sir,
very
often,
okay,
you
know,
depending
on
the
emergency,
it
could
be
a
flood,
it
could
be,
you
know,
roof
is
leaking
and
ceilings
are
collapsing.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
instances
where
fiu
with
the
fire
department
and
my
staff
need
that
information
on
hand,
and
you
know
if
we
all
do
not
share
the
same
database,
unfortunately
within
the
city.
So
what
the
police
department
has
on
record
is
not
what
the
fire
department
has
or
the
water
department
or
ourselves,
so
that
all
becomes
an
issue
when
you're
standing
there.
R
Okay
but
yeah,
I'm
sympathetic
if
we
can
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
privacy
concerns
that
people
have
raised
or
those
issues,
while
still
making
sure
that
information
is
readily
available
to
those
who
need
it.
I
do
have
a
question,
though
I
know
this
came
up
earlier
in
public
comment.
I
think
by
mr
miller
also
about
the
issue
of
unregistered
units
and
the
number
of
unregistered
units
out
there
that
we're
really
focusing
right
now
on
those
that
you
might
say,
comply
with
the
law.
So
I
guess
rick.
R
R
And
I
think
one
other
thing
that
that
would
be
helpful
is
if
there
was
a
kind
of
a
real-time
interactive
database
online,
that
people
can
look
at
neighborhood
groups,
others
to
really
check
whether
or
not
some
of
these
units
do
have
an
rop
or
not,
because
sometimes
the
people
in
neighborhoods,
who
probably
know
best
who's
in
compliance
or
not.
And
I
think
you've
been
posting
a
kind
of
like
a
monthly
static
sheet,
but
it's
not
the
same
as
having
a
real.
You
know
real-time
online
interactive
one.
R
P
Sure
so
the
so
the
rops
that
are
listed
online,
like
you
said
they
can
be
a
month
behind,
depending
on
when
you
know,
that's
pulled
over
to
the
city
website
internally,
we
are
actually
working
with
the
software
program
that
we
have
currently
and
we
are
adding
live
online
citizens
portal,
which
will
have
access
live
time
for
everybody
to
see.
So
that's
that's
literally
in
the
pride
as
we're
sitting
here.
I
just
got
the
quote
for
for
this
stuff.
P
I
don't
have
a
number
of
how
many
places
do
not
currently
have
the
rop.
I
I
don't
believe
it's
half
I
mean
that's,
you
know
kind
of
far-fetched.
I
think
half
the
city
is
without
the
rp.
However,
when
we
did
move
to
the
new
software
program
a
couple
of
years
ago,
it
did
not
transfer
all
the
information
from
the
old
database,
so
we've
been
methodically
going
through
it.
P
You
know,
you
know
I've
gone
through
17
000
of
myself
to
look
and
see
what's
going
on,
but
we
do
with
building
blocks,
have
mechanisms
in
place
now
where,
if
a
police
call
goes
out
for
a
say,
a
tenant
landlord
dispute
immediately.
P
My
vacant
building
coordinator
gets
a
tickler
in
his
system,
set
up
that
he
gets
an
indicator
that
says
hey
this
property
had
a
tenant
landlord
dispute.
We
look
in
there
and
if
there
was
no
rop
I
mean
he,
then
he
checks
everything
within
250
feet.
So
we've
been
very
aggressive,
that's
just
one
and
we
are.
R
P
Very
aggressive
with
how
we're
going
after
the
folks
that
you
know
sort
of
think
we're
doing
this,
and
not
concentrating
on
that
is,
you
know,
obviously
false,
but
we
are
really
aggressive,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
proactive
neighborhood
sweeps
where
we're
checking
all
the
you
know.
Whatever
blocks,
we
go
on
we're,
checking
all
those
avenues,
and
then
you
know
again.
P
We
just
still
also
rely
on
neighbors
and,
as
we
get
called
out
for
different
calls
from
the
fire
department
or
police
department,
we're
constantly
checking
and
then
all
the
surrounding
areas
at
that
time,
because
of
all
the
information
that
was
missed
when
the
new
system
was
set
up
a
few
years
ago,.
R
Okay,
great
and
then
the
other
issue
that
came
up
was
the
renewal
notice,
and
I
and
you
know
right
now-
you
don't
see
death
renewal
notice
if
they
don't
renew,
they
get
the
letter
which
I
some
people
refer
to
as
little
threatening,
but
I'm
not.
But
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
that
kathy
would
have
mentioned
the
idea
of
an
email
renewal
notice,
which
I
assume
that
you
have
emails
forever
as
part
of
the
administration.
P
We
would
definitely
look
into
doing
that
just
so.
You
know,
I
would
say
it's
about
a
60
40
split
60
of
the
people
that
apply.
Don't
have
emails
still,
so
you
know
that'll
be
a
good
avenue
to
capture
some,
but
it
won't
be
enough
for
everybody
and-
and
I
again
I
know
the
notice
of
violation
going
out
in
lieu
of
a
reminder.
P
You
know
which
is
not
fair
to
the
tenant
versus
35
days.
I
can
now
get
somebody
that's
going
to
be
non-responded
into
court,
so
you
know,
I
understand
people
love
to
have
the
reminders
and
if
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
do
it
with
an
email,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
the
notice
of
violation
is
is
definitely
the
better
way
to
go
because
it
it
gets
us
to
be
able
to
get
someone
in
court
that
is
not
going
to
respond
and
to
work
with
people
that
do
respond.
P
So
it's
not
a
you
know,
beat
up
on
the
landlord
at
all.
It's
really
here's
your
reminder.
You've
got
35
days
and
then
just
to
get
it
scheduled,
and
you
can
schedule
it
35
days
after
that
for
all
I
care
and
not
to
mention
the
staff
time
it
takes,
because
all
mailings
have
to
go
out
both
regular
mail
and
certified
mail.
It's
just.
P
And
then,
and
then
they
have
to
do
it
again
with
the
notice
of
violation.
So,
but
I
am
open
to
you
know
figuring
out.
If
we
can
do
things,
call
it
a
data,
pull
a
lot
of
emails
and
then
once
the
legislations
when
they
are
finally
finished
and
they
go
through,
we
are
going
to
send
out
a
massive
mailing
telling
the
entire
city.
C
J
To
wait
for
the
next
meeting,
so
I
think
that
that
means
I
get
to
go.
So
I
just
as
a
interesting
conversation
about
how
do
we
get
more
people
in
compliance
from
the
rops,
because
really
we
want
everybody
to
be
doing
it
so
that
we
know
that
you
know
every
household
that
is
being
rented
is
safe
for
people.
J
I
was
wondering
if
it
would
be
helpful
and
I
don't
want
to
stall
this
legislation
for
this,
but
if
it
would
be
help
just
something
to
consider
helpful
to
require
homeowners
to
include
something
requiring
homeowners
of
properties
that
are
on
record
of
having
two
or
more
units
to
file
an
affidavit
proactively
saying
if
they
are
not
actually
renting
out
properties.
J
You
know
the
other
unit
and
providing
that
clarification
to
the
to
the
city.
Deep
and
and
then
you
and
then
we
know
to
call
like-
and
maybe
you
know
have
them
do-
that
kind
of
notice.
Like
once
every
two
years,
then
you
have
the
legal
authority
to
require
essentially
a
yes
or
no
I'm
renting,
I'm
not
renting
a
piece
of
property
and
and
then
you
know
whether
or
not
you
need
to
follow
up
with
rop
or
not
thoughts.
Robert
rick.
D
Yeah
I
mean
speaking
practically.
I
know
there'd
be
a
lot
of
resistance
to
that,
but
I
think
that
the
administrative
burden,
I
think,
rick
and
I
can
speak
to
that,
but
that
would
be
pretty
significant
too.
P
I
I
think
well,
when
I
just
spoke
about
the
you
know,
the
mass
mailing
that'll
go
out
once
this
is
all
you
know,
kind
of
finalized.
You
know
we're
still
working
on
that
internally
and
it
could
very
well
be
a
questionnaire
that
we
ask
people
to
fill
out
and
return.
You
know,
do
you
have
your
rops?
When
do
they?
You
know
just
kind
of
verify
information
we
do
have
and
then
find
that
information
that
we're
unaware
of.
P
So
I
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
big
deal
to
incorporate
something
in
this
mailing
when
we,
you
know,
send
out
something
stating
what
the
changes
are,
what
it
looks
like
what
it
means
for
you
know
new
or
for
landlords,
etc.
To
have
that
you
know
those
questions
captured
in
a
questionnaire.
You
know
nothing
made
nothing
elaborate,
but
just
you
know
a
little
index
card
with
a
handful
of
questions
that
we
can
garner
a
lot
of
useful
information
that
we
may
not
currently
have.
J
D
Yeah
I
mean
they
wouldn't
respond.
I
know
that
you
know
we
did
something
similar
to
that
when
we
were
doing
when
we
implemented
the
waste
collection
fee,
and
you
know
we
had
people
swearing,
that
they
weren't
using
the
the
second
unit,
for
you
know
particular
use,
and
you
are
going
to
get
a
lot
of
situations
where
people
are
saying.
D
Just
tax
records
are
often
they're,
not
they're,
not
all
that
reliable
in
terms
of
identifying
what
is
the
second
unit
and
what's
not
and
you'll
find
a
lot
of
genuinely
single
family
homes
that
are
that
are
designated
as
two
family,
so
it
is
hard
to
even
you
know,
determine
based
on
the
simple
record
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
whether
or
not
the
unit
is
yeah.
I
mean
there
is
an
additional
unit
at
the
building.
J
So
has
that
curbside
waste
collection
fee
database
been
cross-checked
against
the
rops
like
that,
would
give
you
a
pretty
clear
indication
of
who's
should
be
registered
right.
D
Yes,
it
was
when
it
was
first
implemented.
We
did.
That
was
one
of
the
data
points
we
used
to
send
out
just
a
city-wide.
I
mean
every
unit
that
appeared
to
be
you
know,
being
rented.
We
sent
out
a
reminder
that
didn't
have
an
rp
got
a
reminder
saying
that
if
they
are
in
fact
renting,
they
should
get
an
rop.
D
F
J
So
again,
I
want
to
note
that
there's
some
inconsistencies
with
regard
to
the
references
throughout
this.
J
That
again,
I
think,
whatever
we're
doing
here,
whatever
responsibility,
the
chief
building
official
in
the
department
of
buildings
has
for
compliance
and
inspection.
We
should
be
consistent
inspection
on
the
second
page,
where
it's
in
paragraph
one.
It
says
which
shall
determine
compliance
with
and
enforce
all
applicable
provisions
of
this
code
and
the
new
york
state.
Fire
prevention
and
building
code
doesn't
refer
to
the
usdo
there
and
other
applicable
laws
which
I
think
again
when
you're
doing
the
rop
inspections
you're.
Looking
for
that
right,
rick.
A
J
So
so,
there's
just
a
number
of
it's
just
a
number
of
provisions
wherever,
wherever
the
new
york
state,
uniform
firearm
building
code
or
city
albany
city
violations,
or
in
one
place,
it's
referred
to
as
the
uniform
code,
not
the
uniform
sustainability
development
code.
We
should
be
working
on
consistency,
okay,.
A
F
Okay,
I
gather
from
what
rob
and
rick
have
said
is
that,
even
though
the
rop
may
have
a
lot
more
sensitive
information
in
it,
they
are
as
routine
practice
not
going
to
require
that
that
be
posted
publicly.
F
Only
basically
a
working
contact
number-
and
I
don't
know-
does
that-
have
to
be
written
in
into
the
statute
or
or
is
it?
I
mean
sufficient
trust
that
that's
gonna
be
the
practice.
D
D
F
Yeah,
so
there's
not
a
tax
id
or
other,
you
know
non-business
contacts
and
then
my
other
question
is,
since
this
legislation
will
increase
the
frequency
of
rops
and
probably
the
overall
numbers
through
better
enforcement
will,
will
you
have
to
increase
staff
and
that
means
increase
expenses,
and
I
I
thought
there
was
an
increase
in
fees,
but
if
they
haven't
been
raised
in
nine
years,
maybe
they
need
to
be,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
function
that
you
know
we
have
to
do
now
or
I
don't
know.
A
F
P
No
sir,
you
won't
nope.
Now
we'll
have
plenty
once
we
fill
the
open
two
open
positions
we
have
we'll
have
plenty
to
be
able
to
handle
that.
F
N
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
point,
and
maybe
robert
can
address
it
right
now
they
were
talking
about
with
the
rop.
Having
the
name
of
you
know
the
owner
of
the
building
I
mean
I
today
I
looked
up
on
the
tax
records
I
needed
to
find
out
who
owned
a
certain
building.
I
mean:
is
there
really
a
privacy
concern?
If
all
of
the
stuff
is
documented,
you
know
you
can
go
the
tax
rolls
and
get
the
information.
That's
my
question.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I'm
not
sure
that
there
is,
I
mean
I
do
appreciate
kind
of
the
peripheral
concern
there,
but,
like
I
said,
the
landlord
is
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
identify
who
the
emergency
contact
is
and
what
their
contact
information
is
going
to
be.
So
you
know
there
shouldn't
be
a
surprise
if
that
person
gets
a
call
and
that's
what
that's
why
we
crafted
it
in
that
way,
we're
not
trying
to
like
force
the
landlord
to
get
like
six
points
of
contact
or
anything
and
post
up
publicly.
N
A
A
O
Like
my
dad
was
saying,
mr
raguso
is
just
resting
his
eyes,
but
anyway
just
wanna
thank
the
sponsor
of
this
resolution
and
also
all
the
staff,
and
I
strongly
support
it.
And
I
want
to
thank
the
commissioner
rick
lejoy
for
his
suggestion,
as
it
relates
to
having
the
rop
in
the
front
and
the
contact
information
in
the
back.
So
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
and
thank
all
the
speakers.