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Description
The Committee interviewed candidates for the City of Albany Industrial Development Agency (IDA) & Capital Resource Corporation (CRC).
A
B
Well,
hello:
everyone
welcome
to
the
september
17
2020
meeting
of
the
albany
common
councils
planning,
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
meeting
committee
members.
President
myself,
kathy
favey
chair
also
tom
hoey
councilmember
tom
hoey,
councilmember,
joyce
love.
B
We
have
council,
member,
alfredo
ballerin
other
council
members
present
president
pro
tem
kelly,
kimbrough
council
member,
richard
conte,
and
we
also
have
committee
member
council
member
judy
daucher.
B
B
So
maybe
we
can
start
sarah
by
we
had
a
little
conversation,
a
little
conversation
about
the
responsibilities
of
the
candidates
and
the
terms.
Maybe
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
the
role
their
role
on
the
idea
board.
C
Muted,
I
started
right
off
by
being
muted
before
I
was
talking,
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
through
the
role
I
know.
Tracy
is
with
us
as
well
as
the
chair
of
the
board,
who
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
some
of
the
oh
desired.
D
C
B
Know
tracy
what
how
about
the
would
ever
start
with
the
role?
First,
sarah
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
characteristics
that
we're
looking
for.
C
Sure
the
the
industrial
development
agency-
I
mean
it's
sister
organization,
the
crc
and
the
mission
of
the
group
you've
been
provided,
but
essentially
it's
enhancing
the
diversity
of
the
economy
in
the
city
of
albany
through
supporting
projects
that
create
and
or
retain
jobs
or
promote
private
investment
throughout
the
city.
The
board
really
sees
itself
as
a
frankly
the
most
important
economic
development
tool
in
implementing
our
neighborhood
revitalization
strategies,
as
well
as
advancing
the
economy
in
the
city
of
albany.
C
To
do
that,
it
is
an
incredibly
intensive
role
in
2019
there
were
41
board
and
committee
meetings
and
public
hearings
that
board
members
attended
and
typically
the
board
members.
The
full
contingent
of
board
members
do
attend
all
of
the
committee
meetings
as
well.
It
is
a
volunteer
position,
there's
a
significant
amount
of
analysis
that
goes
into
both
project
review.
C
C
The
board
places
a
high
priority
on
accountability
and
integrity
and
transparency,
and
that
includes
not
only
reporting
to
a
number
of
oversight
bodies,
including
the
authority's
budget
office
and
the
office
of
the
state
comptroller,
but
also
ensuring
a
very
transparent
and
rigorous
review
again
of
each
of
the
projects,
and
that
is
both
a
very
intensive
financial
analysis.
A
real
estate
development
analysis,
as
well
as
a
cost
benefit
analysis
for
each
each
project
in
front
of
the
board.
Ultimately,
with
the
goal
of
providing
community
benefit.
B
E
Sure,
of
course,
sarah
just
took
some
of
the
wind
out
of
my
sails,
but
but
okay,
but
we
are
now
looking
for,
hopefully,
two
board
members
with
the
recent
resignation
of
dominic
at
the
end
of
the
year.
I
think
we
have
a
great
pool
of
candidates
here,
but
I
will
just
I
just
kind
of
developed
some
written
talking
points
that
I'll
be
very
brief
on,
but
diversity,
of
course,
is
really
important
to
us,
because
we
need
diversity
with
respect
to
the
voices
that
we
hear.
That
will
lead
to
a
better
decision.
E
If
we're
all
speaking
from
the
same,
you
know
cloth.
If
you
will
it
it's.
It's
not
good.
So
diversity
from
a
community
standpoint
from
a
background
standpoint
is,
is
critical
to
help
us
make
the
right
decisions.
Economic
development
experience
is
really
important
and
particularly
because
it
helps
shorten
the
the
learning
curve.
E
E
Obviously
a
board
member.
You
know
we
look
for
them
to
have
a
really
true
appreciation
for
the
community
that
they
live
in,
obviously
be
a
city
resident,
which
is
a
prerequisite.
I
think
that's
a
given.
I
think
everyone
that
has
applied
and
we're
going
to
view
tonight
fits
that
bill
understanding
of
the
obvious
real
estate
market.
I
don't
know
that
I
will
be
a
board
member
forever
and
understanding
the
real
estate
market
and
the
the
development
behind
that
and
how
it
happens,
I
think
is,
is
really
critical.
E
It
can
be
learned,
but
if
we
were
able
to
find
a
board
member
in
in
our
interviews
that
understands
how
it
happens
and
what's
behind
the
financing
behind
a
project,
it's
it's
really
important
in
terms
of
learning
the
learning
curve
in
understanding
why
we
have
to
provide
the
incentives
we
do
so.
Many
people
feel
that
you
know
we
provide
too
large
of
a
of
a
tax
benefit
or
I
think
they
think
we
write
a
check.
E
We
don't
write
a
check,
as
you
all
know,
we're
built
we're
providing
building
blocks
for
the
future
tax
revenue
for
the
city,
and
then
I
guess
just
a
final.
Two
quick
comments
would
be
a
vision
for
the
city,
I'd
love
to
hear
the
applicant's
vision
for
the
city.
What
they'd
like
to
see
changed
what
they
think
is
working
and
then
ethics.
Of
course,
I
don't
wanna
really
end
with
that,
because
I
could
have
started
with
that,
but
we
really
transparency,
integrity
and
accountability.
E
I
mean
we
recruise
ourselves
when
we
think
we
have
anything.
We
talk
about
a
potential
conflicts.
We
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
when
we
can
weigh
in
and
when
we
and
when
we
can't
so
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
participate
tonight
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
meeting
the
candidates.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
tracy
and
thanks
for
all
you
have
done
for
the
city,
it's
so
greatly
appreciated.
We
get
a
sense
of
just
the
amount
of
time
that
it
is
spent
in
in
these
tasks.
So
we
really
appreciate
it,
and
you
too,
of
course,
sarah
very
much
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do.
I
should
point
out
one
thing
though
tracy
we,
you
mentioned
two
candidates
and
we
were
just
talking.
B
I
was
talking
to
j.r
our
council
and
unfortunately,
we
will
have
to
put
out
another
request
for
applications
for
this
second
candidate
by
our
by
law.
So
you
know
we
can
we'll
have
some
good
candidates
tonight
and
but
we
will
be
selecting
one
tonight.
A
We
can
always
we
can
always
make
a
gesture
that
there
will
now
that
there's
going
to
be
another
opening
that
a
new
call
of
applications
and
if
they
would
like
to
transfer
their
applications
for
the
second
opening
that
is
now
available.
So
they
don't
have
to
do
an
a
whole
new
application
if
they
would
so
desire.
A
B
Okay,
so
before
we
call
or
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
we
call
in
our
first
candidate,
who
is
anthony
gaddy.
B
Okay
looks
like
we're
all
set,
so
what
we'll
do
is
offer
mr
gaddy
an
opportunity
to
introduce
himself
and
talk
a
little
bit
about.
Why
he's
applying
and
then
we'll
invite
committee
members
first
to
ask
questions
and
other
council
members
as
well.
I.
F
Think
he
had
some
difficulties
finding
the
zoom
code.
I
just
sent
it
to
him
so.
G
A
Thank
you,
they'll
be
in
the
waiting
room,
the
interview
itself
will
be
live
streamed
and
if
it's
the
desire
of
the
committee,
you
guys
by
law,
are
allowed
to
go
into
executive
session
by
the
public
officer's
law
to
discuss
each
candidate
in
private
and
then
once
they
determine.
If
you
are
ready
to
make
a
determination
on
a
candidate,
then
that
would
be
broadcasted.
A
B
F
F
F
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
to
put
in
an
application
for
this
position
on
the
industrial
development
agency
board,
you'll
it
and
also
the
crc
board
as
well,
and
so
I
think
what
we'll
do
is
start
by
asking
you
to
introduce
yourself.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
you're
interested
in
serving
on
this
board
and
then
we'll
go
around
and
ask
a
few
questions.
Okay,.
H
Well,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
and
speak
with
you
all
of
you
this
evening.
I
hope
you
all
are
doing.
Well,
all
things
considered
so
I'll
get
started
with.
My
name
is
anthony
gaddy
born
and
raised
here
in
albany
new
york
attended
our
lady
of
angels
catholic
school.
From
there
I
went
to
albany
academy,
then
I
attended
college
at
the
university
of
chicago
for
a
year
before
transferring
to
the
university
of
southern
california.
H
I
majored
in
business
well
economics
in
chicago
because
they
didn't
have
a
business
major
per
se
and
then
at
usc.
I
took
up
a
major
in
business
with
a
minor
in
political
science.
H
Returning
to
the
area
worked
a
couple
of
key
banks:
first
albany
some
part-time
jobs
here
and
there,
but
just
starting
to
re-engage
with
the
capital
district.
It
is
my
home
I
left
again
to
go
back
out
to
los
angeles
for
a
career
in
the
entertainment
industry.
I
had
a
modicum
of
entry
level
success
and
then
I
finally
returned
back
to
albany
for
good.
When
my
my
sister
became
a
mother-
and
I
thought
it
was
very
important
that
my
niece,
you
know
have
her
uncle
around.
H
Amongst
my
other
endeavors
as
an
entrepreneur,
was
the
clothing
store
under
the
family
name
that
we
opened
up
a
business
on
central
avenue.
I've
also
had
a
career
in
publishing
of
a
magazine
locally,
just
an
advertising
sales
with
spotlight
news.
That's
how
I
got
my
start
in
publishing
and
from
there
I
transitioned
into
working
and
launching
the
upstate
new
york
black
chamber
of
commerce,
which
is
where
I
currently
serve
as
president
and
ceo.
H
Absolutely
I
feel
that
I
will
be
able
to
provide
a
unique
experience
in
terms
of
a
perspective
looking
forward
to
bringing
opportunities
to
the
capital
region
as
far
as
business
development,
economic
development,
with
the
focus,
I
would
like
to
bring
more
minority-owned
businesses
to
the
area,
which
is
something
I
think
we
will
be
able
to
do
through.
H
Our
engagement
with
chamber
here,
which
is
part
of
a
larger
organization
called
u.s
black
chambers
and
I've
always
sought
to
serve
my
community
in
a
variety
of
ways,
but
mostly
through
volunteer
opportunities.
H
Before
I
look
disconnected,
I
served
on
the
library
board
human
rights
commission
for
being
involved
in
the
communities
where
I've
come
from,
where
I
live
has
always
been
important
and
so
the
opportunity
to
serve
in
this
capacity
as
a
part
of
my
career.
Now
with
our
organization,
I
feel
like,
I
can
also
add
value
to
the
organization.
H
As
well
as
bring
more
minority
businesses
to
the
to
the
ida,
I'm
not
sure
many
of
us
know
about
the
opportunities
that
exist
within
the
ida
and
the
crc.
But
I
think
I
would
be
able
to
kind
of
serve
as
a
conduit
to
our
communities
to
add
to
a
different
level
of
engagement
that
speaks
to
the
totality
of
what
the
capital
region
represents.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
getty.
So
what
we'll
do
is
go
around
and
committee
members
will
ask
questions
and
then,
if
we
have
some
other
council
members
here-
and
they
may
have
some
additional
questions,
also,
okay,
so
I'll
invite
committee
members
to
ask
questions
of
our
candidate
joyce.
H
I
Earlier,
when
councilman
councilwoman
fahey
asked
one
of
the
ladies
that
they
gave
her
an
overview
of
what
we
expect
of
people,
the
lady
said
in
2019,
there
was
41
hearings.
That's
a
lot
of
hearings.
Are
you
able
to
attend
41
heroes
or
close.
H
I
would
like
to
see
the
scope
of
the
city
of
albany
properly
represented
in
terms
of
how
we
can
continue
to
focus
on
economic
development
throughout
all
of
them.
So
I
would
like
to
serve
in
that
capacity
to
see
if
I
can
help
do
my.
J
G
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
and
for
your
interest
in
this
position.
It's
a
very
important
position.
Thank
you.
G
I
note
that
you
say
that
you
were
raised
and
you
know
you
gave
your
background
in
albany,
but
I'm
kind
of
interested
you
served
on
schenectady.
Are
you
currently
serving
on
this
connected
county
publicly.
H
G
A
H
I
I
started
it
at
our
town
colony
as
the
accounts
manager.
After
my
time
at
spotlight
news
where
I
started
working
in
the
classifieds
in
sales
and
I
you
know,
moved
up
and
at
the
spotlight
news
and
then
I
learned,
I
met
the
owner
of
the
the
our
town,
colony
publication
and
I
joined
with
him
and
then
shortly
thereafter,
maybe
about
a
year
into
that.
He
decided
that
he
wanted
to
retire.
H
And
then
I
decided
that
I
didn't
want
to
take
a
chance
on
a
new
owner
coming
in
and
not
fulfilling
the
vision
for
the
growth
of
the
magazine
that
the
previous
owner,
publisher
and
I
have
been
discussing
for
months.
So
I
decided
to
bet
on
myself
essentially
and
I
became
the
owner
of
the
publication.
G
Thank
you.
The
the
other
question
I
have
is
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
if
you
would
ever
have
like
a
conflict
of
interest
between
your
current
role
as
president
of
the
upstate
new
york,
black
chamber
of
commerce
and
developers
coming
before
the
board
applying
for
assistance
and
I'm
and
I'm
not.
H
Sure
you
know
I
I
and
thank
you
for
the
question,
because
I
did
consider
that
as
well
before
submitting
my
application,
and
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
the
questions
that
I
would
have
in
terms
of
if
I
were
to
advance
in
the
process.
What
exactly
are
you
know?
The
policies
around
topics
and
interests
are
what
I
have
to
refuse
myself.
H
It
was
for
a
member.
Generally
speaking,
we
advocate,
on
behalf
of
our
members
in
terms
of
legislative
making
sure
that
they
are
represented
on
that
level.
I've
never
represented
a
business
per
se
in
terms
of
its
own
advancement,
whether
they're
looking
to
expand
into
a
city.
G
K
Yes,
thank
you
again.
Thank
you,
mr
gotti,
for
applying
for
this
position.
I
I
do
always
get
really
excited
about
the
hard
work.
That's
done
here
and
you
see
so
many
people
apply
for
volunteer
positions
that
are
not
easy,
that
make
some
difficult
decisions
and
that
many
times
are
not
popular
because
of
decisions
that
they
make.
Yes,
I
appreciate
you
putting
yourself
out
there
and
you
know
what
is
it.
K
My
question
is
a
simple
one:
if
you
can
just
go
over
again,
why
what
you?
How
you
see
your
skills
and
experiencing
experiences,
are
fitting
embed
the
idea
and
benefiting
the
city.
H
Sure,
well,
as
someone
who
has
you
know
started
a
business
also
failed
that
business
at
times
too.
I
think
that
aspect
of
economic
development
serving
this
capacity
lends
a
definitely
a
perspective
in
terms
of
the
do's
and
don'ts
or
learning
the
things
you
don't
learn
that
you
don't
know.
H
H
I
think
that
experience
has
been
invaluable
in
our
first
year
here
and
then
I
can
pretty
much
you
don't
want
to
discourage
the
business
from
starting,
but
you
really
need
to
be
honest
whether
or
not
there's
a
viable
opportunity.
So
I
mean
that
part
is
to
your
point
about
making
unpopular
decisions.
I've
had
some
experiences
with
those
too
and
again
being
from
here,
I
think
also
as
a
value
coming
up
from
underserved
communities
and
kind
of
building
up
a
career
where
some
of
the
odds
are
against
you.
H
I
think
that's
an
opportunity
to
set
an
example
also
of
what
is
possible
in
terms
of
seeing
ourselves
represented
at
the
highest
levels
of
city
economic
development
government.
I
think
that
is
a
very
important
aspect
that
has
also
reflected
you
know
throughout
the
capital
regions,
and
I'm
often
mindful
of
the
fact
that,
for
all
of
our
mid-major
size,
we
are
still
the
state
capital
of
the
most
influential
states.
H
So
I'm
constantly
pitching
the
capital
region
and
I
think
me
being
someone
who
is
required
to
travel
to
other
parts
of
the
state
and
sometimes
the
country.
It's
a
great
experience
to
be
able
to
talk
about
my
city
or
our
city.
B
A
I'm
sorry
kathy
tom
has
had
his
hand
up
for
a
while.
I
don't
know
if
you
see
him.
B
I
didn't,
I
didn't
see
it
tom
councilmember,
hoey.
L
Hello,
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
me,
but
you
were
kind
of
your
volume
was
in
and
out,
but.
F
L
One
of
the
questions
I
was
going
to
ask
was
explain
about
the
the
mission
of
the
upstate
black
chamber
of
commerce,
but
pretty
much
you
talked
about
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed.
You
know
I'm
on
the
council
just
three
years
now
is
the
ida.
L
Has
the
business
that
we
seem
to
be
supporting
is
just
mostly
housing
and
I'm
just
wondering
because
you've
talked
about
other
types
of
businesses
and
stuff.
Would
you
be
like
open
for
stuff
I'd
like
to
see
more
like
manufacturing
or
more
income
producing
type
of
businesses
that
would
produce
jobs
yeah
sure,
especially
in
in
in
our
poorer
neighborhoods?
L
People
need
jobs
and
unemployment
rates
like
over
20
percent,
and
so
I'd
just
like
to
have
your
thoughts
on
how
you
would
feel
about
that.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
for
your
question.
You
know
when
we
when
we
launched
the
organization
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
very
common
when
people
when
you're
an
organization,
people
say
how
many
members
do
you
have,
and
our
goal
was
not
so
much
to
focus
on
the
quantity
of
our
members,
but
the
quality
in
terms
of
what
types
of
resources
would
our
other
business
members
need
and
if
you
look
at
our
community,
especially
the
ones
that
are
underserved
but
we're
looking
to
establish
a
presence.
H
There
are
many
types
of
businesses
that
are
essentially
taken
for
granted
in
other
communities
that
have
more
development.
So,
for
example,
there's
no
there's
no
black
bank
there's!
No,
you
know
cpa
firms,
law
firms
that
are
large.
You
have
a
lot
of
law
firms,
but
that
large
large
law
firm.
That
says
you
know
this
is
where
you
do
your
business.
Everything
from
that
the
things
as
basic
as
dry
cleaning.
Those
are
the
types
of
businesses
that
we're
looking
to
start,
even
though
we
brought
in
over
100
members
in
our
first
year.
H
We
talked
about
more
career
development
than
we
do
job
creation
because
that
pertains
to
that
connects
one
to
education,
where
you
have
to
advance
based
on
the
level
of
education,
not
always,
but
very
often
we
talk
about
community
development
in
the
overall
context
of
how
workforce
development,
economic
development
and
housing
also
play
a
factor
that
our
dollars
can
circulate
within
communities
as
opposed
to
always
having
to
travel
outside
of
our
communities
to
to
spend
our
money.
It's
not
so
much
about
the
low
income,
it's
more
about
the
amount
of
consumption
and
consumer
spending.
H
We
contribute
to
the
capital
region.
However,
we
travel
and
travel
our
own
communities.
We
had
a
visitor
here
recently
quietly
and
we
took
them
around
to
some
of
the
areas:
harbor
hill,
west
hill,
central
avenue,
the
south
end,
because
that's
where
he
wanted
to
see
what
the
opportunities
to
establish
business
you
know
what
it
looked
like,
and
there
were
just
so
many
things
that
when
I
visited
him,
he
took
me
to
places
not.
J
H
That
you
know
our
communities
not
just
look
better,
but
also
feel
better
when
you
walk
out
your
house,
and
you
see
opportunity
that
that
brings
about
a
sense
of
pride
and
community
and
when
you
don't
adversely,
you
don't
feel
that
same
sense
of
belonging,
so
we
focused
on
the
capital
region
and
upstate
new
york
as
a
whole.
H
Believe
me,
as
someone
who
grew
up
in
harvard
hill,
what
happened
in
arborville
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
westfield
and
shop,
then
those
are
the
three
neighborhoods
that
as
an
organization
in
this
city
that
are
our
primary
focus
and
whatever
value
we
can
add
and
connecting
them
to
the
rest
of
the
city
makes
it
all
that
much
more
better
for
us
and
for
the
city
as
a
whole.
H
H
We
have
an
abundance
of
colleges
here
that
we
can
transition
our
students
from
stay
out
of
high
school.
How
do
we
connect
them
with
internship
opportunities
as
well
so
that
they
stay
connected?
They
build
relationships
and
then,
as
we
build
up
our
businesses
and
the
more
more
there's
more
reason
to
stay
here,
because
you're
more
more
vested
and
as
well
as
an
investor.
D
Yeah
thanks,
you
know,
I
read
you
the
article
that
paul
grandel
did
on
you
in
the
on
the
chamber.
D
Last
night,
it
left
me
with
a
favorable
impression
but
quick
question
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
touched
on
it.
We
touched,
you
know,
may
have
a
little
bit,
but
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
had
any
perspective
on
current
operations
of
the
ida,
either
positive
or
negative.
H
You
know
one
one
of
the
things
that
I
I
was
looking
forward.
This
is
because
I
didn't
really
have
sometimes
it's
better
to
to
have
an
under
an
overview
understanding,
as
opposed
to
an
opinion.
So
I
I
don't
I'm
aware
of
it.
I
know
a
little
bit
about
what
it
does.
I've
visited
the
office,
but
I
I've
seen
a
lot
of
the
work
you
do.
I
took
some
time
to
go
through
some
of
the
projects.
H
You
know,
I
know
more
about
what
you
do,
but
I
don't
have
an
opinion
of
what
you're
doing.
I
think
that
in
some
ways
that
might
be
beneficial
because
I
don't
come
in
with
this
perceived
notion-
I'm
very
open
to
learning
as
well.
D
Have
you
read
their
the
most
recent
or
any
of
the
annual
reports.
D
J
Thank
you.
I
just
I
didn't
really
have
a
question.
I
just
wanted
to
say
to
tony
gotti.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
the
position
and
it's
nice
to
see.
You
know
a
face
that
I
grew
up.
F
J
To
make
a
commitment
to
the
city,
so
I
just
wanted
to
wish
you
the
best
and
just
to
say
hello.
H
M
B
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
gaddy.
We
appreciate
your
application
and
the
time
you
took
to
speak
with
us
tonight.
We
have
some
other
candidates
that
will
be
interviewing
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
you
and
again.
Thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
today.
B
B
Welcome
mr
better,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
to
apply
for
a
position
on
the
industrial
development
agency
board.
What
we
normally
do
is
ask
you
to
introduce
yourself,
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
yourself
and
why
you
applied
for
this
position
and
then
council
members
will
go
around
and
ask
you
some
questions.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
coming,
and
I
should
tell
you
you
will
need
to
unmute
yourself.
N
My
apologies,
I
always
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
All
of
you.
I
appreciate
it
so
just
to
give
you
a
little
background
about
myself.
N
I
said
my
name
is
joe
better
and
I've
been
a
resident
of
the
city
of
albany
for
the
going
on
it'll
be
nine
years
this
coming
january,
and
I
work
right
in
downtown
my
I
establish
and
manage
contracts
and
oversee
a
team
of
people
who
establish
and
manage
contracts
for
the
state
of
new
york
and
the
reason
I
really
wanted
to
to
join
the
apply
and
join
the
board
was
that
as
someone
who
moved
here,
as
I
mentioned
my
cover
letter
a
I'm
visually
impaired,
I'm
legally
blind,
I
I
found
that
to
me,
a
city
was
always
more
conducive
to
living,
and
I
thought
that
I
could
bring
that
experience
and
viewpoint
to
the
industrial
development
agency
to
bring
that
perspective.
N
But
also
you
know
my
background
in
contracts
and
dealing
with
the
private
sector
had
given
me
some
very
good
insights
into
a
lot
of
how
a
lot
of
the
businesses
operated
in
the
in
in
the
state
in
different
industries
and
some
of
the
both
strengths
and
weaknesses
they
dealt
with,
and
while
it
wouldn't
be
the
same
businesses
that
would
be
coming
before
you.
I
felt
that
I
could
bring
that
experience
to
help
make
judgment.
You
know
judgments
for
the
ida,
so
that
was
a
very
high
altitude.
N
Why
I
chose
and
yeah.
I
very
much
appreciate
this
if,
if
I
could
just
as
a
request-
and
I
apologize
to
impose
this
on
you,
but
because
of
my
limitations,
I
don't
see
well
enough
to
have
trouble
reading
the
names
if
everyone
could
indicate
when
they
ask
a
question
who
they
are
just
so
that
I'm
clear
and
I'm
answering
if,
if
that
could
be
done,
I'd
very
much
appreciate
that
so.
B
Okay
and
and
mr
better,
my
name
is
kathy
fahey
and
I'm
on
the
committee,
I'm
chair
of
the
committee,
and
so
now
I
will
invite
other
committee
members
to
ask
questions.
So,
let's
see.
B
Questions
from
committee
members.
G
G
N
So
I'll
start
with
the
second
question
I
have
read
through
several
of
your
annual
reports.
I've
also
read
through
several
of
the
proceedings
that
you've
been
doing.
I
know
it's
been
somewhat
slowed
by
the
covet
as
with
a
lot
of
things,
but
you
know
I,
and
I
think
that
overall
I
think
what
you're
doing
overall
is
positive.
You
know,
I
think
that
if
it
were
me,
I
you
know
I
as
a
member
of
the
board.
N
I
think
that
I
mean
there's
pro
always
areas
of
improvement,
but
overall
I
think
what
the
ida
and
the
sears
you
know,
sears
are
doing
are
helping
to
invest
long
term
in
the
city
of
albany.
I
mean
I
can
go
into
more
specifics
of
maybe
you
know
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
that
I
might
see
as
improvement
opportunities,
but
on
the
whole
I
think
overall,
it
operates
very
well.
N
So
one
of
the
things
as
a
person
who's
lived
downtown.
I
am
a
condo
owner
and
a
lot
of
the
investments
that
I've
noticed
have
been
in
apartments
as
opposed
to
condominiums
or
co-ops,
and
I
definitely
appreciate
having
you
know
more
people
move
into
the
city.
N
I
think
that's
a
very
good
thing,
but
I
think
to
encourage
more
permanent
home
ownership
in
the
form
of
condos
or
cooperatives
to
that
long-term
investment
which
will
help
build
the
tax
base,
and
you
know
bring
more
people
in
to
you-
know,
stay
24
hours
and,
to
you
know,
make
a
long-term
investment
such
as
myself,
I
think,
would
be
one
area.
I
would
look
to
do
more
and
I
understand
there
are
some
unique
challenges,
especially
with
condominiums
new
condominium
construction
is
very
risky.
N
The
other
thing
I
noticed
was
in
looking
at
the
plans
of
where
you
invested.
There
were
certain
areas,
including
my
ward,
which
have
done
very
well,
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing.
I
appreciate
living
where
I
am
down
has
been
a
very
good
thing,
but
I
think
to
try
and
work
to
expand
that
to
more
areas
of
the
city
will
help
further
strengthen
the
whole
city,
and
you
know
also
trying
to
work
to
help
people
buy
into
you
know
that
is
needing
community
involvement
is
key.
N
I
think
that
would
be
an
area.
I
would
try
to
expand
where
the
investments
are
done,
because
it
does
a
large
amount
seems
to
be
concentrated
in
certain
core
areas,
and
I
understand
you
have
to
start
in
a
kind
of
a
nucleus,
but
to
broaden
that
out,
I
think,
would
be
a
very
good
thing.
So
those
those
are,
I
guess
what
I'd
say,
are
my
two
improvement
opportunities.
B
Comments
or
questions
by
other
committee
members,
council,
member
holi.
L
B
L
Thank
you
again
for
coming.
You
touched
on
something.
It's
always
been.
My
thoughts
that
having
ownership
in
the
city
is
more
important
than
just
having
renters,
because
it's
a
mobile
or
transient
type
of
population-
and
I
know
a
lot
of
our
projects-
don't
don't
gear
towards
families,
it's
more
singles
which
in
a
way,
is
good,
but
at
some
point
people
are
gonna,
get
married
or
have
children.
You
know
if
they
so
desire.
L
So
that's
one
thing
I
I
I
I'm
encouraged
by
that
and
one
of
my
questions
is
and
the
ida
I
mean
the
original
intent
of
the
ida
when
it
was
thought
up,
not
just
in
albany
but
statewide
was
to
have
helped
build
an
industrial
base
and
for
whatever
reason,
we've
given
up
on
this
industrial
base-
and
I
mean
we
kind
of
know
that
you
know
you
can
go,
buy
stuff
from
china.
L
That's
cheaply
manufactured,
they
don't
have
unions
over
there
and
the
pay
rates
are
low,
but
we've
seen
with
kovitch
simple
things
like
having
mask
or
any
type
of
ppe.
L
We
just
didn't,
have
the
manufacturing
facilities
to
do
it,
building
ventilators.
You
know
we
had
to
turn
to.
You
know
ford,
to
turn
their
assembly
line
to
make
that,
so
I
always
feel
that
there's
a
place
for
manufacturing
whether
you
know
what
type
of
stuff
it
is,
but
I
think
it
builds
the
communities
where
you
you
have
a
job
in
some
of
our
poorer
neighborhoods,
the
unemployment
rate's
over
20.
L
So
I
just
like
to
have
your
thoughts
on
that.
You
know,
because
for
so
many
years
we
were
kind
of
offshoring
or
out
of
stating,
but
you
know,
do
you
believe
in
building
within
the
city
itself,.
N
Yep,
so
first
I'll
actually
tell
you
that
what
I've
been
doing
for
a
lot
of
my
last
several
months-
and
this
is
sort
of
not
my
usual
job,
but
I've
been
involved
with
new
york
state's
covet
response,
I'm
sort
of
our
point
person
on
obtaining
ventilator.
So
this
has
been
a
large
part
of
learning
the
supply
chain
and
supply
chain
difficulties
we've
been
having.
So
I
understand
completely
where
you're
coming.
You
know
the
point
and
and
I've
seen
the
difficulties,
so
I
yeah
it's
definitely
been
something.
N
That's
been
eye-opening
for
me
in
seeing
the
difficulties
as
an
example
where,
even
though
many
of
the
ventilators
are
assembled
in
the
united
states,
the
components
are
often
manufactured
overseas,
so
there's
a
real
difficulty
when
the
supply
chains
are
cut.
N
I
definitely
think
industry
is
something
we
should
promote
in
in
the
job
that
I've
been
in
in
the
last.
What
I've
been
doing
the
last
several
months.
I
agree.
That
is
something
that
we
should
focus
on
the
issue
with
a
lot
of
these
industrial
plants
is
we
need
to
look
at
one
of
the
difficulties?
What
I've
seen
is
is
supply
chain
building
to
get
someone
to
build
some
of
these
factories.
You
there's
got
to
be
there's
often
a
manufacturer
behind
it.
There's
one
component
that
gets
bought
into
another.
N
So
I
think
to
it's
good
that
we
look
at
industry
and
look
at
potentially
seeing
if
that's
something
especially
since
industry,
is
it
often
now
modern
industry
is
so
automated.
It
tends
to
be
more
higher-end
jobs,
so
I
agree,
but
I
also
think
we
need
to
understand
that
when
we
go
into
an
industry
we
need
to
under
know
that
there's
a
supply
chain,
that's
viable
in
the
country
or
there's
a
place
where
it
can
go,
and
some
of
those
are
things
beyond
what
we
can
do.
But
I
agree
it's
something
we
should
look
at.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
again
for
applying
to
this
position.
I
know
that
it's
a
position
that's
time
consuming
and
that
no
it's
not
always
very
popular.
K
K
N
Thank
you
yes
and
yes
thank
you
councilmember
and
yes,
I
will
I
actually
over
the
last
several
months,
my
mom,
I
can
tell
you,
like
my
workload,
actually
went
up
significantly
because
of
what
I
was
dealing
with
covet
a
lot
of
the
response
work
and
it
is
starting
to
recede
and
as
part
of
that
and
as
part
of
moving
up
in
my
both
my
job
and
my
own
personal
life,
I
grew.
I've
had
to
learn
how
to
balance
a
lot
of
you
know
different
things.
N
So
for
me,
I
will
be
able
to.
I
have
enough
flexibility
now,
especially
that
we're
going
that
we're
in
a
better
state
prepared
wise
to
take
on
this
obligation
and
for
me
going
through
documents.
That's
often
when
I
basically
get
paid
to
do
that
a
lot
or
through
my
staff's
documents.
So
I
that's
that's
not
a
difficult
thing,
so
I
I
have
no
doubts
I'll
be
able
to
manage
the
workload.
J
Yes,
councilman
johnson,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
considering
this
post
and
and
being
willing
to
volunteer
your
time
to
the
city
we
need.
We
need
all
the
help
we
can
get.
Thank
you
again.
B
Okay,
council:
let's
see
mr
better,
we
are
deeply
appreciative
of
you
taking
the
time
to
apply
for
this
position.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
what
we'll
do
now
is
we
will.
We
were
interviewing
several
candidates
and
we
will
get
back
to
you
with
any
decision
that
we
make
and
and
again
we
appreciate
you
coming
tonight.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
D
B
B
D
Because
some
of
the
questions
relate
are-
and
some
of
the
respondents
talk
about
proactively
seeking
applications
in,
can
the
idea
proactively
seek
applications?
Are
they
really
dependent
on
projects
that
go
through?
You
know
some
other
review
process
elsewhere
and
then
that
come
to
the
ida
for
financing.
C
So
for
the
ida
we
do
talk
about
the
the
resources
available
through
the
ida
as
widely
as
we
can.
C
As
that
group
starts
to
see
trends
coming
through
the
industrial
development
agency,
they
can
provide
feedback
to
the
economic
development
organization
for
other
programs
that
might
be
outside
of
the
ids
jurisdiction
to
help
you
know
sort
of
prime
the
pump
for
those
those
diverse
channels
to
come
through.
Okay,
great
thank
you.
B
Okay,
let's
bring
in
our
next
candidate,
lloyd.
B
B
Hello,
mr
stewart,
welcome
if
you
could
unmute
yourself
please.
My
name
is
kathy
fahey,
I'm
chair
of
the
planning,
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
of
the
council,
and
we
appreciate
you
coming
tonight
to
apply
for
this
position
on
the
industrial
development
agency
board.
B
B
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
had
to
turn
the
sound
up
a
little
bit.
I'm
not
a
zoom
person,
but
my
wife
is
and
that's
why
you'll
see
mitzi.
B
B
O
O
I
always
throw
that
in
because
people
say
10
generations
is
a
long
time
for
anybody
to
be
able
to
check,
but
in
new
york
state
my
family
has
been
here
longer
than
new
york.
State
has
been
new
york
state,
so
that's
kind
of
a
plus
that
I
try
and
keep
and
put
out
every
time
I
get
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
O
Hopefully
it
impresses
somebody,
maybe
somebody
on
this
committee,
but
what
I
wanted
to
to
I
figured
a
question
would
come
up
about
my
experience
and
the
types
of
experiences
that
I've
had
in
my
career
and
I
thought
well.
Maybe
what
I
need
to
do
is
look
back
and
see
what
it
is
that
I've
actually
done.
O
O
Now
most
of
the
competencies
and
expert
expertise
that
I've
acquired
have
come
through
three
major
organizations
that
I've
worked
for
the
first
being
the
urban
league
of
northeastern
new
york,
where
I
was
president
ceo
for
five
years
there
in
the
early
90s.
O
The
interesting
part
of
that
is
that
the
urban
league,
the
urban
league,
was
the
place
that
I
went
to
for
my
first
job
and
I
was
16
years
old
and
it
continued
in
my
mind
as
being
a
place
that
worked
specifically
for
poor
and
disadvantaged
people
in
terms
of
training
them
for
employment,
but
also
being
able
to
work
with
people
in
terms
of
of
community
development
and
also
in
terms
of
starting
businesses
getting
people
back
into
education.
O
I
also
left
the
urban
league
with
an
opportunity
to
go
to
africa.
One
of
my
my
sacred
dreams-
I
guess
you
would
see
say-
is
to
go
to
africa
to
see
to
live
and
and
work
in
africa,
but,
most
importantly
from
a
child
in
in
albany
school
district
africa
became
an
obsession
with
me.
I
guess
you
would
say,
and
I
wanted
to
see
if
africa
actually
existed.
O
So
I
was
at
the
urban
league
for
four
or
five
years,
and
then
I
went
to
africa
and
the
experiences
that
I
had
at
the
urban
league
in
terms
of
doing
employment
and
training
in
terms
of
helping
assisting
people
in
putting
businesses
together
was
very,
very
helpful
for
me
in
terms
of
being
able
to
work
in
south
africa,
because
the
same
kinds
of
programs
existed
there
in
the
same
kinds
of
difficulties
as
well,
in
terms
of
people
being
able
to
be
trained
to
accomplish
some
of
their
ideas
and
their
wish
dreams
and
wishes.
O
And
that's
the
same
kind
of
pattern
that
existed.
While
I
was
working
with
the
urban
league.
I
was
able,
when
I
was
in
south
africa,
to
work
with
a
a
newly
formed
community
action
program
that
actually
worked
more
in
lines
with
what
the
what
the
ida
does.
They
helped
in
terms
of
setting
up
businesses.
They
helped
in
terms
of
of
training
people
for
work,
putting
an
industrial
base
together
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
working
within
the
communities
to
try
and
identify
what
their,
what
their
issues
were
and
put
together.
Programs.
O
But
it
was
enough
money
for
them
to
be
able
to
to
build
and
live
in
a
in
a
one
bedroom
home.
They
then
could
actually
put
put
money
into
it
as
well
and
be
able
to
expand
what
they
were
doing
and
finally,
the
third
organization
I
worked
with
that
allowed
me
to
do
a
lot
of
the
work
that
I
mentioned
a
moment
ago
was
the
catholic
charities
of
rensselaer
county.
O
That
program
only
lasted
a
few
years.
It
was
during
a
period
of
time
when
the
state
of
new
york
was
going
to
what
I
would
call
it
recession
as
far
as
community
base
and
non-profit
organizations
were
concerned.
So
that
program
didn't
last
as
long
as
we
had
hoped
it
would
in
in
the
beginning.
O
But
it
did
give
me
an
experience
in
working
in
troy,
which
is
a
neighborhood
that
I
was
somewhat
familiar
with
having
grown
up
in
this
area
and
knowing
that
the
problems
that
existed
in
in
albany
in
schenectady
and
troy
all
have
a
similar
thread
to
them.
It's
something
that
we
we
looked
at
and
we
worked
on,
and
the
experience
in
one
was
very
helpful
in
terms
of
experience
of
the
others.
B
O
Well,
as
I
as
I
mentioned
initially,
it
has
to
do
with
my
my
I
guess
I
can
actually
say
it,
because
I
don't
think
I
ever
have
before
my
love
for
albany,
okay
and
the
people
of
albany.
O
Most
of
the
families
that
that
I
work
with
in
the
urban
league
that
I
work
with
even
in
troy
are
the
same
families
that
I
would
work
with
with
these
programs
in
terms
of
being
able
to
identify
their
needs
and
the
resources
that
the
ida
and
the
crc
might
be
able
to
provide
to
those
communities
so
that
these
families
and
these
in
these
organizations
could
be
able
to
begin
to
develop
programs
in
a
needs
assessment
that
they
could
share
with
ida.
O
To
be
able
to
look
at
pinpointing
the
actual
resolutions
and
and
positive
things
that
can
take
place
within
albany,
spearheaded
by
the
ida
and
crc.
So
it
I
guess
it's.
The
families
that
are
here
in
my
family
are
the
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
wanted
to
to
get
involved
with
this
program.
B
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
stewart,
we're
honored
to
have
you
here
as
an
applicant
for
this
particular
position.
G
I
am
impressed
10
years
10
generations-
that's
kind
of
mind-boggling
to
me
who
feels
like
I've
been
here
for
a
long
time
being
about
here
for
about
45
years.
G
G
Yeah,
so
so,
when
you
talk
about
encouraging
development
and
and
determining
needs
of
the
community,
there
is
there.
There
is
a
bit
of
a
tendency
for
the
idea
to
get
applicants
who
are
a
lot
of
the
the
projects
are
more
apartments,
and
I
want
to
say
a
lot
of
them
are
market
rate
or
high-end
apartments.
G
O
O
Those
are
individuals
who
are
who
are
living
in
in
in
buildings
provided
by
the
city
that
will
not
provide
it,
but
they
actually
live
in,
but
there's
always
a
willingness
and
a
dream
and
an
idea
that
comes
up
within
with
those
with
those
communities
in
terms
of
wanting
to
do
more
in
terms
of
starting
a
business
or
want
to
do
more
in
terms
of
wanting
to
own
a
home
or
things
along
those
kinds
of
lines
that
the
city
is
not
able
to
do
exclusively
by
itself,
but
the
city
would
have
to
be
a
partner
in
there.
O
I
think
it's
a
partnership
that
you
have
to
put
together
to
be
able
to
identify
actually
where
communities
are.
There
are
problems
that
exist
in
albany
that
exists
in
many
communities
around
this
country,
but
albany
also
needs
to
sit
down
and
say
well
how
do
we
begin
to
address
some
of
the
issues
of
violence,
the
issues
of
crime,
the
issues
of
education?
O
How
do
we
put
those
plans
together?
Who
do
we
call
on
to
do
that?
Who
takes
the
lead
in
terms
of
being
able
to
say?
Well,
I
know
these
communities,
I
know
where
these
communities
are.
I
know
what
the
issues
are
that
exist,
getting
those
communities
to
be
able
to
open
up
and
tell
us
what
it
is
that
they
want
how
they,
how
they
feel
in
terms
of
the
dreams
they
have
for
the
city.
How
do
we
expand
the
resources
that
exist
within
albany?
O
All
of
these
issues
have
been
laying
there
for
years
and
years,
every
once
in
a
while,
it
seems
like
we
get
a
a
boost
of
energy
and
the
city
and
the
elected
officials
and
the
community
organizations
come
together
and
try
and
make
something
happen.
Some
initial
initiative
takes
place,
usually
in
those
instances
it
comes
from
the
state
or
from
the
federal
government.
O
How
do
we
begin
to
actually
open
the
door
and
bring
and
bring
in
those
individuals
who
have
been
here
for
years
whose
families
have
been
here
for
years
and
the
plans
and
the
wishes
and
the
dreams
that
they
have
are
still
valid
and
are
still
there?
And
I
think
it's
an
opportunity,
there's
nothing
else
for
them
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
be
able
to
see
that
there's
more
to
the
ida
than
just
something
that
they
read
periodically
in
the
newspaper.
B
Sorry,
everyone
I
was
going
to
say
other
committee
members.
First,
please,
council,
member
holly.
L
Hello,
mr
stewart,
thank
you
again
for
coming
and
taking
time
for
interviewing
very
impressed
by
your
resume.
I
saw
you.
I
worked
at
the
university
and
worked
with
the
construction
fund,
and
I
saw
that
was
one
of
your
your
previous
jobs.
One
of
the
things
that
I.
L
At
is
the
idea
was
developed
to
come
up
with
industrial
development.
You
know,
and
what's
happened
over
the
years
is,
as
industry
has
moved
out
of
the
state
out
of
the
country.
L
The
ida
has
geared
more
towards
projects
like
department
houses,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
My
first
one
is,
you
know
I
always
felt
that
condos
and
co-ops,
where
people
own
part
property
where
they
live,
is
important
for
community
building,
and
I
just
wanted
to
have
your
opinion
on
that,
and
my
second
question
is
I'd
like
to
see
us
get
back
into
manufacturing.
L
During
the
covet
crisis.
We've
seen
you
couldn't
even
get
face,
masks
we're
trying
to
get
stuff
from
china,
the
transportation
just
wasn't
there
because
of
the
crisis.
I
feel
we
don't
do
enough.
At
home
I
mean,
when
I
say
home
in
new
york
state
and
in
albany
it'd,
be
nice
to
see
development
in
businesses
that
produce
and
offer
jobs.
And
we
know
the
unemployment
rate
in
our
poor
communities
is
well
over
20
percent
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
get
people
jobs.
L
And
I
think
if
you
got
people
jobs
where
they
have
something
to
look
forward
to.
Maybe
the
violence
would
drop.
But
that's
another
topic.
But
so
I'd
like
to
know
the
two
things
on
co-ops
and
condos
and
about
manufacturing.
O
O
What
is
it
what
happens
with
the
people
in
the
community
who
have
been
there
for
years
and
years
and
there's
no
opportunities
actually
that
are
available
for
them
to
be
able
to
make
that
step
towards
owning
a
home
of
their
own
or
getting
a
job
or
getting
the
training
that
they
need?
I
think,
if
you
could
begin
to
look
in
terms
of
industry,
that's
how
albany
started.
O
That's
how
most
of
the
the
cities
and
towns
along
the
hudson
river,
in
particular
all
started
with
the
industry,
and
it's
an
it's
a
it
is
that
the
industry
has
gone
away.
All
this
manufacturing
still
is
taking
place.
The
problem
is:
there's
no
incentive
to
be
able
to
do
that
industry
within
an
area
of
albany
at
this
point
in
time,
it's
not
on
the
agenda
and
it's
what
I
was
talking
before
in
terms
of
doing
a
needs
assessment,
not
just
for
the
individuals
but
for
the
city
itself.
O
How
do
we
begin
to
make
development
work
in
terms
of
the
south
end?
How
do
we
take
those
those
old
buildings,
the
manufacturing
buildings
that
exist
in
north
albany
or
in
arbor
hill?
How
do
we
turn
them
around
in
terms
of
being
be
in
places
of
of
economic
growth
and
development?
O
O
These
plans,
these
buildings,
these
offices,
together
the
industry,
has
become
an
issue
and
even
when
you
look
at
it
in
terms
of
what's
happening
on
the
national
level,
there
is
a
lot
of
conversation
that
you
get
in
terms
of
of
industry
numbers
of
fudge
industries
or
are
that
are
not
existing
people
talk
about.
Let's
start
this
industry.
Let's
get
this
working
and
the
issue
actually
dies
after
an
election
takes
place.
O
So
what
I
said
before
in
terms
of
it
being
being
a
an
effort
that
needs
to
be
taken
that
needs
to
take
place
within
the
holistic
nature
of
the
community,
that
not
only
the
elected
officials
come
together
in
the
ida,
but
the
people
who
live
in
those
communities
also
should
have
some
say
in
the
kind
of
effort
the
spearheading
those
efforts
that
take
place
in
terms
of
developing
those
kinds
of
industries.
O
I
think
most
people
just
say:
well,
I
don't
know
much
about
industry,
but
there
are
people
all
over
the
country
who
do
and
people
all
over
the
country
who
have
who
have
been
successfully
doing
it,
and
it's
usually
those
cities
that
have
been
industrial
cities
100.
Maybe
150
years
ago,
who
are
now
finding
that
as
a
new
resource
for
them-
and
I
think
that's
something
we
probably
we
need
to
put
the
focus
on
in
terms
of
making
happen.
O
Are
there
are
there
any
programs
are
there?
Any
developments
that
are
taking
place
in
albany
now,
with
the
supported
ida,
to
focus
themselves
on
on
industry
is
the
ida
funding
industry
based
proposals,
and
I
think
we
need
to
begin
to
ask
ourselves
what
have
we
been
doing?
What
is
our
objective?
O
What
is
our
alternative
in
terms
of
increasing
the
the
tax
base
and
also
the
providing
of
jobs
for
people
within
the
community?
What
are
we
doing
through
the
ida
to
make
these
kinds
of
things
happen?
What
is
the
history
of
the
ida
in
terms
of
being
able
to
make
these
kinds
of
things
happen?
It's
a
question
that
we
need
to
always
ask
ourselves
as
we
go
through
this
process.
K
That
is
a
position,
that's
not
always
popular
decisions
that
are
made
and
not
always
well
taken
by
many
individuals.
So
my
question
is:
how
will
you
be
able
to
balance
your
current
responsibilities
with
the
new
new
role
in
the
ada.
O
Well,
as
I
look
at
one,
I'm
retired,
two,
most
of
my
work
now
is
working
with
not-for-profit
organizations
around
the
state
and
around
the
country.
O
J
O
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
how
these
kinds
of
corporations
work
with
the
time
time
effort
is
needed
being
able
to
to
re
reprogram.
My
schedule
to
participate
in
in
the
work
of
the
ida
is
not
a
major
difficulty
to
me,
because
I've
done
I've
done
it
with
the
airport
authority
and
I've
done
it
with
the
convention
center
authority.
O
K
O
Yeah
I
have
through
the
research
I've
been
doing.
As
far
as
my
family
is
concerned,
we've
been
able
to
go,
go
back
to
the
1720s.
J
This
is
kind
of
funny
here,
a
little
bit
of
a
role
reversal
for
us,
but,
mr
stewart,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
the
position
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
answer
to
one
of
your
questions
is,
I
know
who
to
call
you
know.
I
know
who
to
call
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
It
was
good
to
see
you.
You
know.
J
I
grew
up
watching
you
lead
us,
lead
our
city
and
programming
and
directions,
and
you
know
I
know
I
speak
for
myself
and
a
number
of
other
young
men
that
are,
you
know
just
trying
to
continue
the
work
that
you
been
doing
for
a
long
time.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight.
M
Whatever
thanks
yeah,
so
thank
you,
mr
stewart,
for
for
your
interest.
We
need
people
like
you
on
these
boards
and
commissions
to
you
know
with
the
community
in
mind.
You
have
you
have
that
that
historical
perspective,
you
know
where
we've
been
so
maybe
you
can
help
us
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
so-
and
this
is
a
question
comment,
so
I
I've
been
after
or
having
conversations
with
folks
from
the
ida
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
M
Well,
I
ida
crc,
sarah
regarding
both
affordable
housing
and
also
trying
to
do
something
with
small
developers.
I
mean
we,
you
know
it's
fine
to
have
a
you
know
a
50
unit
building
or
you
know,
with
these
departments
and
there's
a
time
and
a
place
for
all
that
stuff,
but
our
neighborhoods
are
suffering,
and
so,
with
all
these
red
x's
and
these
dilapidated
properties,
my
pitch,
has
been.
Can
we
kind
of
put
something
together
to
deal
with
with
small
development?
M
You
know,
even
to
mr
conte's
point
about
being
proactive,
the
idea
being
proactive
and
pulling
together
groups
to
do
the
small
development.
So
if
you
so,
if
you
were
chosen
to
be
on
the
idea,
could
could
I
trust
you
to
get
after
these
folks
to
to
focus
on
our
neighborhoods,
because
again,
the
big
developments
are
fine,
but
we
need
one
block
at
a
time.
We
need
to
rebuild
our
neighborhoods,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
question
and
a
comment.
Yeah.
O
I
think
I
think
that's
the
kind
of
issue
that
the
ida
and
the
city
of
albany
needs
to
think
about.
When
I,
when
I
mentioned
needs
assessment,
the
needs
assessment
has
to
start
coming
from
the
community
and
the
people
who
live
and
work
in
the
community
who
have
been
here
for
years.
Who've
been
denied
an
opportunity
or
an
effort
to
be
able
to
to
expand
their
ideas
and
their
interests.
O
Small
industrial
or
small
developments
that
include
housing
that
include
youth
programming
that
include,
maybe
even
stores
and
strip
malls
or
things
along
those
lines.
They
begin
to
develop,
develop
within
the
community,
a
sense
of
ownership,
a
sense
of
pride,
a
bit
an
ability
to
be
able
to
say
we
can
begin
to
address
these
problems
on
our
own.
O
If
we
were
in
partnership
with
the
ida,
if
we're
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
the
council,
then
we
can
begin
to
expand,
as
you
say,
block
by
block
house
by
house
it's
important
to
get
out
into
the
community
and
begin
to
see
what
it
is
that
they
want.
Whether
what
the
community
looks
like
how
you
turn
the
community
around
is
mainly
based
on
what
the
community
looks
like
and
what
the
people
inside
of
that
community
feel
that
they
need
to
have
that's
not
being
provided
for
them.
O
That's
when
that
whole
issue
of
marginalization
comes
in.
Yes,
we
have
the
community,
yes
you're
in
the
community.
Yes,
we
may
clean
up
a
park
here
or
clean
up
a
park
there,
but
the
bottom
line
is:
what
are
you
doing
in
terms
of
the
economic
development
of
these
of
these
communities
that
have
been
marginalized
for
decades
and
every
once
in
a
while,
when
you
get
some
elect
new
elected
officials,
they
speak
in
terms
of
let's
start
working
in
the
community.
O
Let's
start
turning
the
community
around,
but
that's
not
an
effort
that
can
just
take
place
willy-nilly
and
here
and
there
it
has
to
be
a
focus
effort
that
takes
place
between
the
major
the
major
stakeholders
within
and
when
I
say,
stakeholders,
I'm
not
just
talking
about
the
the
major
corporations
that
exist
that
provide
money
every
once
in
a
while
for
charities
or
for
united
way
or
things
along
those
lines.
O
I'm
talking
about
a
time
effort
of
people
who
have
been
in
the
community
for
years
and
see
and
know
and
understand
what
has
been
taking
place
and
it's
time
just
to
open
that
up
and
give
people
an
opportunity
to
express
their
needs
and
express
their
willingness
to
put
make
themselves
a
part
of
a
new
direction.
As
far
as
albany
is
concerned,.
B
Okay-
mr
mr
stewart,
I
want
to
thank
you
again
for
coming
here
tonight
and
applying
for
this
position
and
and
speaking
to
us,
about
your
experiences,
your
background
and
why
you're
interested
in
this
position.
We
have
some
others.
We
will
be
interviewing
and
and
we
will
absolutely
get
back
in
touch
with
you
with
regards
to
who
was
selected,
and
we
are
very
appreciative
of
the
time
you
took
to
join
us
tonight.
So
thank
you
very
much.
O
And
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
your
effort
and
your
willingness
to
talk
to
me
about
this,
and
hopefully
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
these
issues
again
on
them
in
a
more
detailed
basis.
Thank
you
very
much
very.
B
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
let
folks
know
that
it's
five
of
seven
and
we
are
we're
about
25
minutes
behind
our
scheduled
interviews,
so
our
next
interviewee
is
jeffrey
quain.
So
I
want
to
welcome
jeff
quain.
B
Hi
jeff
welcome,
really
appreciate
you
coming
tonight
and
applying
for
this
position.
So
what
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
do
is
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
and
and
why
you're
interested
in
the
position
and
then
we'll
go
around
and
ask
some
questions.
So
thank
you
for
coming.
P
Absolutely
thank
you,
chairwoman,
and,
and
thank
you
council
members,
for
the
opportunity
to
interview
with
you,
I'm
jeff
quaine.
I
began
my
career
with
the
state
assembly.
I
worked
for
the
assembly
member
out
of
the
binghamton
new
york
area.
P
P
You
know
I
was
able
to
get
a
first-hand
view
during
my
time
with
the
state
to
really
see
the
work
that
has
been
put
in
by
the
city
administration
by
the
city
council
by
capitalized,
albany
and
the
ida
to
really
create
momentum
for
the
city
through
a
number
of
different
projects
and
initiatives,
and
you
know
I
think,
for
a
while
there
we
had
a
real
sense
of
momentum.
There
was
real
excitement
on
the
ground.
You
know,
folks.
P
I
talked
to
folks
I
talked
to
at
the
at
the
state
at
the
city
and
as
you're
all
well
aware.
You
know
the
coveted
pandemic
hit
and
I
think
you
know
not
just
for
the
city
but
for
everyone,
a
lot
of
things
really
came
to
a
grinding
halt
and
have
put
a
lot
of
question
marks
up
as
to
you
know,
what's
next,
how
do
we
pre
proceed
from
here?
You
know:
how
do
we
deal
with
potential
devastating
budget
deficits?
P
How
do
we
keep
these
folks
who
have
shown
interest
in
investing
in
the
city
of
albany?
How
do
we
ensure
that
they
are
still
going
to
be
here
or
they
are
still
going
to
make
investments?
You
know?
So
that's
that's
really.
Where
my
you
know,
one
of
my
main
reasons
for
wanting
to
join
the
sport
is.
I
want
to
ensure
that
this
momentum
that
we
had
keeps
going
that
we
you
know
continue
to
have
development
build
our
tax
base.
P
I
want
to
act
as
a
resource
for
the
ida
board,
using
my
experience
with
the
state
and
what
I've
seen
throughout
the
region
throughout
the
state
to
advocate
for
the
city.
You
know
to
help
maximize
the
city's
potential
and
if
I
may
a
couple
other
things
I
would
like
to
focus
on.
If
I
am
so
lucky
to
be
appointed
the
board,
you
know
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
see
equitable
development
throughout
the
city.
P
P
You
know
how
can
we
ensure
that
our
our
neighborhoods
surrounding
downtown
are
maximizing
their
potential?
You
know
in
arbor,
hill,
the
south
and
west
hill.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
I
would
be
a
good
steward
for
the
public
trust
and
putting
their
interests
first.
I
know
oftentimes.
There
has
been
some
frustration
with
folks
with
what's
before
the
ida
that
sometimes
it
doesn't
match
what
folks
may
have
heard
at
first
with
their
application.
P
So
I
want
to
ensure
you
know,
there's
consistency
throughout
what
we're
doing,
and
you
know
what
folks
are
being
told
in
the
communities
and
the
elected
officials.
So
long
story
short,
you
know.
My
three
reasons
are
really
I
want
to
be.
I
want
to
use
my
experience
as
an
asset
for
the
ida
board.
P
I
want
to
ensure
that
we
have
equitable
development
throughout
the
city
throughout
our
neighborhoods,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
the
board
myself,
are
good
stewards
for
the
public
and
development
in
the
city
of
albany.
B
K
Good
to
see
you
jeff,
I
like
the
new
luck.
P
K
It
looks
good.
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
ask
you
the
same
questions.
We've
been
asking
all
the
candidates.
I
actually
stole
mrs
councilwoman's
love's
original
question.
It's
basically
about
balancing
the
commitment
of
time
with
your
already
busy
schedule
and
the
additional
responsibilities
to
the
idea,
as
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
aware,
but
they
were
41
hearings
in
the
previous
year
and
it's
not
just
a
hearing
time
but
as
your
the
time
to
review
paperwork
so
for
and
so
forth.
K
So
how
do
you
see
yourself
being
able
to
balance
those
commitments
and
still
keep
the
highest
level
of
quality.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
councilman.
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
benefits
of
working
for
the
governor
and
the
state
of
new
york's.
It's
a
very
demanding
and
also
rewarding
job.
That
takes
up
a
lot
of
time
that
allows
me.
You
know
that
that
really
takes
over
your
schedule.
So
it's
hard
to
really
balance
things.
Now
that
I've
moved
over
out
of
the
administration.
P
I
thankfully
have
more
time
to
focus
on
pursuits
that
I'm
interested
in,
and
you
know
really
give
back
to
my
community
as
I
was
previously
and
and
now
so
I'm
confident
that
I
will
be
able
to
balance
those
demands
of
both
my
professional
career
as
well
as
the
ida
board,
and
you
know,
give
my
full
attention
and
and
100
to
it.
So
I
I'm
I'm
not
concerned
about
it.
I've
had
a
very
demanding
schedule
before
and
I'm
confident
that
I
can
balance
it
and
be
an
asset.
L
Of
all
the
applicants,
it's
basically
might
get
jumbled
a
little
bit,
but
when
the
idea
was
started
in
the
state,
one
of
the
ideas
was:
it
was
for
industrial
development
and
over
the
years
as
industries
have
gone
offshore
to
china,
for
cheaper
wages
and
no
unions,
of
course,
but
you
know
we've
gotten
into
where
we're
doing
apartment
developments,
which
are
fine,
because
people
need
places
to
live,
but
I've
always
felt
that
ownership,
especially
in
a
city,
and
if
you
go
back
to
the
old
dan
o'connell
days
of
albany,
he
always
felt
that
you
know
home
home.
L
Ownership
was
a
core
for
a
good
city.
So
I
was
wondering
about
your
thoughts
on
that.
I
know.
Condos
and
co-ops
aren't
popular
in
albany,
but
they
are
popular
in
saratoga.
You
know
my
cousin
actually
owns
three
condos
up
there
that
he
rents
out.
So
I
know
that
they
do
exist
and
my
second
question
would
be-
and
we've
seen
it
with
the
covet
crisis-
that
we
don't
manufacture
anymore.
L
You
know
we
came
and
do
simple
things
like
you
know,
ppe
like
face
shields
and
you
know
mass,
and
this
is
all
stuff
in
the
new
technology
world.
You
know,
there's
you
know,
3d
printers,
there's
all
sorts
of
ways.
L
Industry
has
changed
from
the
old
days
when
we
used
to
do
shirt.
Collars
on
troy-
and
you
know,
troy
was
a
big
iron
center
and
stuff
like
that.
I'd
like
to
see
manufacturing
come
back
and
we
could
see
the
problems.
Whenever
you
have
transportation
problems,
then
we're
trying
to
get
our
stuff
from
china.
It
just
doesn't
work.
So
just
like
your
thoughts
on
that.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you,
councilman
yeah.
Those
are,
I
think,
those
are
two.
You
know
good
questions
that
really
get
to
the
spirit
of
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
that
the
ida
is
facing.
I
think
homeownership,
of
course,
is
very
important.
You
know
for
folks
who
really
have
a
stake
in
their
community.
P
I
will
say
that
you
know
I
know
many
people
like
myself,
who
came
up
at
one
point
to
work
for
the
legislature,
have
now
made
albany
their
permanent
home,
and
you
know
I
think
that
as
folks
spend
more
time
here
they
develop
that
attachment
to
their
community
are
invested
in
it.
You
know
they
want
to
see
their
neighborhood
succeed,
their
city
succeed.
I
think
that
you
know,
as
kind
of
an
intermediate
step.
P
As
you
know,
younger
folks
are
getting
to
the
point
in
their
lives
where
they
want
to
buy
a
house.
It's
important
to
have
a
good
quality
housing
stock,
that's
affordable
in
the
city
of
albany.
You
know
so
folks
can
make
the
transition
from
you
know,
maybe
living
in
in
the
areas
where
there's
college
housing-
that's
concentrated
to
you,
know
something:
that's
a
little
nicer,
more
manageable
that
they
then
can
transition
into
having
home
ownership.
P
You
know
I,
I
know
that
obviously
there's
a
market
for
apartments
in
the
city
of
albany
in
the
capital
region,
many
of
our
urban
centers-
and
you
know,
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
a
response
to
that.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings
that
are
before
the
ida,
because
the
market's
asking
for
it-
and
you
know
I
I
would
have
to
say
that
we're
not
seeing
as
many
co-ops,
perhaps
here,
because
the
market
isn't
asking
for
it
in
the
city
of
albany
as
opposed
to
saratoga.
P
So
you
know,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can,
that
we
can
encourage
it
to
continue
to
diversify
our
housing
stock.
I
think
that's
great,
you
know,
as
we
give
folks
options
whether
they
want
to
be
in
a
co-op
situation.
They
want
to
be,
you
know
in
a
market
rate
apartment
or
they
want
to
be
a
homeowner
as
far
as
bringing
back
industry
to
the
city
of
albany,
I
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
million
dollar
question
facing
us
facing
the
region
facing
the
state
facing
upstate.
P
I
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
as
as
you
mentioned,
and
especially
with
a
lot
of
unknown
in
the
future,
that
we
we
have
everything
all
in
one
place.
You
know
we
have
jobs
for
folks
in
the
city
where
they
can
hop
on
a
cdta
bus,
utilize
that
go
to
the
bus
route
and
get
back
home,
and
you
know
hopefully
stop
at
some
shops
on
the
way,
stop
at
price
chopper
on
delaware
and
and
get
that.
P
But
you
know,
unfortunately,
I
think
we're
at
a
disadvantage
in
many
ways
you
know
as
a
result
of
our
taxes
that
comes
down
from
the
federal
government.
That
makes
it
very
difficult
for
folks
folks
who
want
to
invest
a
factory
here,
invest
that
I
think
the
idea
could
play
a
huge
role
there
in
figuring
out
how
we
can
address
some
of
those
competitive
disadvantages.
We
have
with
other
states
like
texas,
or
you
know
the
midwest,
where
the
tax,
the
tax
requirement
is
a
lot
less.
P
So
you
know
if,
if
those
opportunities
are
coming
before
the
ida
board,
I
would
suspect
that
we
would
do
everything
possible
to
make
that
a
reality.
You
know
working
with
the
state
of
new
york
working
with
the
capital
region,
economic
development
council,
utilizing
all
those
resources
that
we
have
our
empire
state
development
to
to
make
that
a
reality.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
applying.
I
didn't
realize
that
you
started
out
in
congressman
hinchey's
office.
G
I
have
some
connections
to
him
and
my
my
distant
and
not
too
distant
past,
he's
responsible
for
me,
partially
partially
responsible
for
me
meeting
my
husband,
which
which
sometimes
never
mind
and-
and
I
want
to
say
that
I
always
appreciated
your
hard
work
and
your
outreach
in
particular
to
members
of
the
common
council
here
and
your
enthusiasm
when
you
served
as
deputy
regional
director
for
cuomo's
for
cuomo.
G
I'm
wondering
if
you
are
familiar
enough
with
ida
supported
projects
in
the
city
of
albany.
To
tell
me
if
there's
one
or
two
in
particular
that
you
think
were
transformative
important
projects
and
if
there
are
any
that
you
might
not
have
been
supportive
of
based
upon
what
you
know.
P
Absolutely
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
councilwoman
and
I
was
very
lucky
to
have
the
opportunity
to
work
for
the
congressman
at
the
tail
end
of
his
congressional
career,
but
it
was.
It
was
a
great
place
to
start
I
you
know.
I
know
it's
still
in
the
work
works,
but
I
think
on
ida
supported
project
that
could
really
act
as
a
model
for
development
in
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
city.
Is
the
home
leasing
project
on
clinton?
P
Ave,
which
is
you
know,
taking
you
know
already
existing
housing
stocks?
Some
of
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
some
of
our
greatest
resources
of
you,
know
the
row,
houses
and
and
brownstones
in
center
square
and
our
downtown
areas
and
rehabilitating
those
as
affordable
housing
projects.
You
know
it's,
I
know
it's
still
in
the
works
and
I
may
be
wrong,
but
I
understand
that
they
from
what
I
saw
in
the
news
that
they
may
be
considering
you
know
a
second
phase
or
expanding
upon
that
project.
P
You
know
I
I
think,
as
we
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
home
ownership
and
giving
folks
the
step
to
moving
towards
that
from
living
in
rental
apartments
that
that
projects
like
that,
where
we
can
you
know,
protect
some
of
our
historic
assets
where
we
can
allow
for
affordable
opportunities
in
communities
for
for
folks
to
have
good
quality
housing.
P
That
you
know,
I
think
that's
really
hit
a
trifecta
of
a
lot
of
different
points
that
I
hold
important
and
you
know
something
that's
a
little
more
unique
than
some
of
the
other
market
rate
apartment
projects
that
have
come
before
the
idea
and
that
are
going
up
on.
You
know
every
part
of
the
city
uptown
downtown.
P
You
know.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
folks
in
in
the
communities
have
had
issues
with
the
projects,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
those
have
been
expressed
before
the
planning
board.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
you
know
necessarily
one
project
that
I
can
hold
as
you
know,
something
that
that
I
don't
support
her.
I
don't
find
transformative,
but
I'm
certainly
well
aware
of
you
know
some
of
the
vocal
concerns
that
folks
in
the
communities
neighborhoods,
the
neighborhood
associations
have
voiced
about
certain
projects.
I
How
you
doing
thanks
for
playing
for
the
job
is
the
firm
that
you
work
for.
Is
it
a
lobbying
firm
or
what
does
it
do?
What
do
it
do.
P
Thank
you
councilwoman.
It's
it's
a
strategic
firm.
We
do
public
relations
support
communications
advising
there
is
some
lobbying
I
do
not
do
any
lobbying.
Personally.
P
P
B
B
Okay,
councilmember,
I'm
sorry
jeff
did
you
have
any
other
questions?
Did
you
have
any
questions
of
us.
P
I
don't
I
I
you
know
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
you
know,
and
especially
for
a
lot
of
the
work
that
you
folks
have
done,
as
well
as
the
administration
to
really
lay
the
groundwork.
You
know
for
a
lot
of
the
development
between
the
albany
2030
plan.
You
know
the
dri
plan
a
lot
of
the
public
input
community
input
documents
and
plans
that
you
all
have
laid
out.
P
B
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
time
to
apply
for
this
position.
We
very
much
appreciate
it
and
we
will.
We
have
others
to
interview
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
you
regarding
our
selection.
Thank
you
very
much.
Jeff.
B
Okay,
welcome
ms
style
back,
I'm
kathy
fahey,
chair
of
the
council's
committee
planning
committee.
We
very
much
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
apply
to
serve
on
the
industrial
development
agency
board.
So
what
we'd
like
to
ask
you
to
do
is
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
your
experience
and
why
you
are
interested
in
this
position
and
then
we
will
go
around
and
ask
some
questions
so
welcome.
Q
Well,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
me.
My
name
is
liz
stalbeck
I
am
currently
employed
with.
Will
dan
energy
solutions
under
staff
contract
with
nyserda
working
on
the.
J
Q
Prior
to
that,
I
spent
some
time
the
new
york
state
office
of
homes
and
community
renewal
working
in
their
cdbg
program
as
an
economic
developer
and
spent
about
four
years
working
in
albany
county,
doing
economic
development
in
the
county
executive's
office.
So
for
about
13
years
now,
I've
worked
at
all
different
levels
of
state
and
local
governments,
primarily
in
the
the
areas
of
economic
development
and
policy.
Q
The
reason
why
I'm
interested
in
this
is
this
is
really
the
first
time
that
the
ida
has
had
an
opening
when
I
haven't
been
employed
by
a
state
or
local
government,
and
this
would
really
give
me
the
opportunity
to
serve
the
city
in
which
I
live
and
am
raising
my
family,
and
so
I
would
really
like
to
take
everything.
I've
learned,
I
suppose,
from
sarah's
side
of
the
table
and
be
able
to
to
work
and
support
the
city
of
albany
and
their
growth
efforts.
G
Thank
you
very
much.
I
want
to
go
to
be
able
to
see
her
on
screen
liz
for
applying
for
this
position.
You
have
an
impressive
resume.
It's
interesting
to
have
somebody
actually
applying
that
has
worked
on
the
staff
of
an
ida
for
a
period
of
time,
significant
period
of
time
with
respect
to
the
albany
ida.
G
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
what
you
might
change
or
improve,
and
what
you
like
about
what
the
ida
has
been
doing.
Q
I
think
I
would
need
more
time
you
know
serving
before
I
would
make
recommendations
for
changing
more.
You
know,
revisions.
What
I
do
appreciate
and
from
what
I've
been
looking
into
is
the
project,
evaluation
and
assistance
framework.
I
think
that
that
really
gives
a
level
of
clarity
and
transparency
to
an
applicant
as
they
begin
the
process
and
also
to
the
public
as
well.
I
think
it's
very
important,
I
think.
Sometimes
there
is
skepticism
of
economic
development
agencies
and
ideas
and
so
being
as
transparent
and
laying
out
those
guidelines
and
making
them
as
public
as
possible.
Q
I
think
has
been
a
really
good
step
for
the
ida.
I
appreciate
the
other
framework
and
cost
analysis
that
they've
also
been
working
on.
It
was
something
that
I
had
looked
at
and
was
thinking
about
stealing
for
for
bethlehem,
so
the
transparency
of
the
decision
making,
I
think,
is
very
important
and
something
that
I
would
hope
would
continue.
F
I
Yeah,
thank
you
for
playing
for
the
position
again.
Sarah
said
earlier,
there
was
in
2019.
There
were
41
hearings.
Are
you
up
to
taking
on
45
hearings.
Q
Yes,
I
I
am,
I
am,
I
understand
the
activity
that's
going
on
and
hopefully
that
continues-
and
yes,
I
I
am
committed
to
you
know
to
serving
on
the
ida-
and
you
know,
will
make
the
time
and
make
it
a
priority
to
make
sure
that
I'm
an
active
involved
member
and
am
prepared
and
understand
the
projects
and
the
applications
that
come
before
the
ida.
But
yes,
if
it's
45
or
50
hearings,
I
am
in
okay.
L
Hi
miss
thor
back.
Thank
you
for
coming
and
applying.
We
appreciate
it
and
your
time
you
know
the
concept
of
idas
were
for
industrial
development
and,
what's
happened
over
time
is,
as
our
industry
has
moved
to
overseas
to
china
and
to
the
low
tax
states.
You
know
down
south
where
there's
no
unions,
you
know,
we've
gotten
into
a
lot
of
our
projects,
are
apartment
houses,
and
you
know
one
of
the
problems
like
with
this
culverdiver
is
that
dense
density
seems
to
be
a
problem
with
the
spread
of
this
disease.
F
L
People
move
from
one
new
complex
to
another,
or
you
know,
they're
single.
You
know
albany
was
founded
years
ago
on
the
idea
of
home
ownership
or
owning
part
of
the
you
know,
being
part
of
the
city
and
owning
it,
and
I've
brought
up
many
times.
Why
aren't
we
pushing
more
for
condos
co-ops,
where
people
can't
afford
to
buy
a
house,
but
maybe
they
could
afford
to
buy?
L
So
my
question
is,
you
know
we
see
it
successful
in
areas
like
saratoga
and
it's
probably
because
of
the
tax
breaks
and
other
incentives
that
they
give
up
there,
but
I
I
don't
know
so
I
wanted
your
thoughts
on
that
and
then
the
second
thing
is
we've
seen
with
the
covet
crisis.
There
was
a
serious
shortage
of
mass
and
ppe
that
we
no
longer
manufacture,
and
these
are
things
using
modern
technology
like
3d,
printers
and
stuff.
L
But
we
don't
seem
to
be
doing
that
and
I
wanted
your
thoughts
on
that.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
could
push
to
get
more
manufacturing
back,
which
would
give
more
jobs
to
our
poor
communities
that
have
over
20
percent
unemployment
rate.
Thank
you.
Q
Sure
to
address
your
first
topic
regarding
you
know
apartments,
and
I
am
I'm
a
homeowner
in
the
city
of
albany.
I've
owned
a
home
now
for
13
years
in
in
albany,
and
I
think
that
the
use
of
idea,
incentives
and
breaks
for
the
development
of
apartments
has
is
a
good
use
of
idas,
especially
in
the
city
of
albany.
Q
The
I
understand
the
you
know
the
looming
effects
of
covid,
you
know
and
the
effects
of
how
that
does
change,
homeownership
and
how
that
does
change
where
people
live
in
relationship
to
where
they
work.
That
has
yet
to
be
worked
out,
and
I
think
it
may
be
issues
in
the
future,
but
I
think
giving
given
the
situation.
Q
I
think
apartments
are
very
important.
I
understand
that.
Sometimes
there
is
the
the
impression
of
a
transient
population,
but
I
also
think
that
that
really
has
a
lot
to
do
with
just
the
changing
dynamics
of
of
careers.
You
know
people
will
change
careers
and
they
will
move
and
the
cost
of
education
makes
it
very
difficult
to
be
paying
off
student
loans
and
invest
in
a
home.
Q
And
so
I
think
that
the
availability
of
good
quality
apartments
in
a
downtown
urban
setting
provides
albany
with
a
good
opportunity
to
keep
younger
people
in
the
area
and
to
keep
recent
college
graduates,
reach
law,
school
graduates
in
albany
and
really
take
advantage
of
them
coming
here
for
them
their
education,
but
then
being
able
to
find
a
nice
apartment
in
an
urban
area
and
start
their
careers.
So
I
do
think
that
the
use
of
ida
incentives
for
apartments
is
important,
and
especially
in
a
city
like
albany,
where
you
need
to
attract
additional
nighttime
population.
Q
You
know
that's
that's
such
a
difficult
question
in
a
city
like
albany,
I,
the
lack
of
available
space
to
you
know,
build
a
the
infrastructure
or
the
building
or
you
know,
new
industrial
warehouse
space
would
be
very
difficult,
but
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
I
think
I'm
not
sure.
Q
Q
Have
solved
a
lot
of
other
problems,
but
no,
I
think
it's
it's
a
and
it's
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
you
stated
you
know
for
why
manufacturing
would
leave
the
northeast,
but
I
wish
I
had
a
solution,
but
I
don't
and
I'm
sorry
thank
you.
B
Okay,
councilmember.
K
Give
ballard
very
well
first,
thank
you
for
applying
for
this
position.
This
is
a
volunteer
position
that
is
very
popular
and
makes
some
difficult
decisions.
So
I
commend
you
and
everybody-
that's
put
themselves
out
there
to
to
seek
this.
You
have
a
unique
perspective
because
you've
been
in
this
field
and
deceptive
for
some
time
now,
so
I
guess
my
question
to
you
a
as
an
expert
in
this.
K
What
do
you
see
as
being
the
next
next
jump
or
the
next
next
industry
that
we
should
be
seeking
out
if
it's
not
manufacturing,
we've
only
built
so
many
buildings
for
so
long
before
you
know
we
just
run
out
of
people
to
fill
them
and
my
fear,
my
fear
and
I'm
hoping
that
I'm
wrong.
My
fear
is
that
with
the
pandemic
and
everything
that's
happened,
people
will
be
looking
for
decentralized
living,
I'm
hoping
that
they'll
look
for
decentralized
living
from
new
york
city
to
albany,
because
we'll
decentralize
compared
to
new
york
city.
K
Q
You
know,
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
always
I
always
thought
when
I
was
with
the
town
of
bethlehem
was
it's
I
always
found
it
was
more
important
to,
and
this
is
not
to
dodge
the
question
at
all.
I
always
thought
it
was
very
important
to
nurture
and
take
care
of
the
businesses
that
you
had
already,
and
I
do
think
that
is.
It
is
important
to
always
be
open
and
ready
for
the
next
opportunity
for
someone
who
would
want
to
come.
J
Q
But
you
don't
want
to
miss
the
chance
to
support
something:
that's
homegrown,
because
you
are
out
chasing
something
that
might
never
happen,
and
one
of
the
things
I'd
always
found
during
my
time
is
that
providing
the
support
to
the
businesses.
You
have
that's
where
your
growth
really
comes
from.
So
obviously,
if
it's
two
different
municipalities
and
that
the
differences
between
you
know,
bethlehem
and
albany.
Q
We
could
be
here
all
night,
but
I
appreciate
I
can't
say
that
I
think
that
there's
one
industry
that
the
city
of
albany
should
be
chasing
after
as
much
as
I
think
the
city
of
albany
should
be
nurturing
their
businesses
from
the
micro
enterprises.
That
start
with
one
to
two,
because
five
ten
years
from
now,
they
could
be
your
next
big
industry,
and
so
I
think
it's
really
supporting
entrepreneurs
in
in
the
city
and
in
the
region
and
being
there
to
help
them
grow.
Q
B
Okay
liz.
Thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
time
to
apply
for
this
position.
I,
your
qualifications
are
very
impressive.
We
really
appreciate
the
time
you've
taken.
We
will
we're
going
to
discuss
all
the
people,
we've
interviewed
and
make
a
selection,
and
we
will
get
back
in
touch
with
you
to
let
you
know
of
our
decision.
So
thank
you.
It's
much
appreciated.
B
Care
now
before
we
get
into
discussing
before
we
get
off
facebook
live.
I
I
wanted
to
sarah,
I
oh
I
almost
I
lost
my
video
there.
Sarah
I
was
wondering
if
you'd
like
the
opportunity
to
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
comments
that
were
raised
about
the
types
of
applications
that
we
have
here
in
the
city
of
albany.
B
You
know
tom's
talking
about
manufacturing.
How
can
we
get
that
started
talking
about
maybe
too
much
market
rate
housing?
Other
people
have
brought
up.
You
know
why
aren't
we
supporting
some
of
our
smaller
businesses
through
the
ida?
You
know
we
need
supermarkets
in
certain
neighborhoods
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
I
was
wondering
if
you
wanted
to
address
that
a
little
bit
as
far
as
the
types
of
applications
that
do
come
before
you
in
the
at
all
or
tracy
as
well.
C
E
Well,
I
just
I
just
I
just
would
comment
that
you
know.
I
think
we
do
a
great
job
through
capitalize
albany,
of
course,
marketing
our
programs
and
incentives
to
create
additional
investment
in
the
city
of
albany
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
applications
that
come
have
come
in
have
been
predominantly
multi-family,
housing,
redevelopments
and,
to
a
large
extent
we
don't.
E
We,
we
don't
have
control
over
the
applica
applications
that
come
in
it's
market
driven
based
on
what
is
a
viable
investment
and
development
in
the
city
of
albany,
given
what's
what's
available
at
the
time
in
terms
of
land
and
again
what
the
market
is
is
is
demanding.
I,
I
am
really,
of
course,
we're
always
open
to
looking
at
new
programs
and
the
potential
for
them
to
drive
a
different
investment
into
the
city.
E
Of
course,
that's
going
to
entail
additional,
you
know
potential
tax
incentives
etc,
but
it
is
a
market-driven
application
project.
Sarah.
C
Yeah
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
you
know,
first
of
all,
I'm
so
impressed
by
the
caliber
of
applicants
that
are
in
front
of
your
group
today.
It
was
a
really
dynamic
and
interesting
discussion
across
the
board,
and
I
think
it
pointed
to
the
complexity
of
all
of
these
issues
and
also
just
the
depth
that
the
board
members
need
to
have
to
be
able
to
sort
of
navigate
through
all
of
that
complexity.
C
So
all
of
these
different
issues,
you
know
when
tracy
is
raising
the
issue
of
the
market
that
we
have
currently
albany
is
considered
a
very
weak
market
city.
We
have
been
able
to
use
our
programs
both
marketing,
as
well
as
incentive
programs
effectively
to
take
advantage
of
the
market
that
we
do
have
to
drive
investment
that
does
implement
neighborhood
plans
and
strategies
directly,
but
also
can
build
toward
the
future.
So
a
lot
of
the
focus
there
has
been
demand,
and
thankfully
so,
for
multi-family
housing
in
the
city.
C
The
industrial
development
agency
and
capitalize
albany
corporation
have
really
taken
that
as
a
strategic
approach,
because,
as
some
of
the
applicants
have
pointed
out,
being
able
to
capture
that
market
potential,
much
of
which
is
coming
from
outside
of
the
city
as
apartment
dwellers,
does
translate
into
homeowners
as
the
next
step
out
of
apartment
living.
Is
they
sort
of
fall
in
love
with
the
city
and
create
the
environment
where
people
want
to
be?
We
also
keep
pace
with
national
trends
that
employers
and
again
covet
not
withstanding,
but
you
know
it
will
alfredo.
C
I
think
that
you
are
right.
We
are
starting
to
see
some
of
those
larger
city
corporations
and
talent
looking
to
smaller
cities
to
be
able
to
decentralize,
but
those
employers
are
following
where
their
talent
wants
to
be,
and
so
by
creating
an
environment
through
through
mixed-use
development
that
drives
the
density
that
allows
a
supermarket
site
selector
or
a
you
know,
another
retail
tenant
they
they're
all
about
density.
They
look
at
the
numbers
as
we
drive
our
density
higher.
Those
places
start
to
look
at
us.
C
We're
able
to
start
to
attract
those
places
to
build
out
that
full
environment
that
we're
looking
for
through
those
neighborhood
revitalization
strategies.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
this
is
strategy
based.
It
does
seem.
You
know
heavily
focused
on
the
market,
that's
in
front
of
us
now,
but
it's.
How
do
we
creatively
use
that
market
to
drive
those
other
community
benefits
that
we're?
Looking
for
the
industrial
question
is
a
a
huge
challenge.
You
know
tom.
C
C
You
know
the
fact
that
we're
a
400
year
old
city
and
most
of
the
city
is
built
out
the
industrial
space
that
we
do
have
is
occupied.
We
see
tremendous
activity
at
the
port
of
albany,
for
instance,
and
we
support
them
heavily
in
in
their
efforts,
because
those
are
the
major
job
creators.
Those
are
the
industries
of
tomorrow.
C
So
again,
you
know
these
are
incredibly
complex
issues
that
the
board
members
grapple
with
month
in
and
month
out,
and
I'm
excited
to
see
the
slate
of
of
applicants
really
showing
some
depth
and
some
grasp
of
the
fact
that
the
idea
might
not
be
the
right.
The
specific
tool
for
the
specific
question
but
being
able
to
creatively
use
that
tool
to
find
other
pathways
to
success
in
those
areas
is
really
critical.
B
C
B
Any
quick
comments
back
by
council
members
and
then
we'll
get
into
discussing
our
interviewees
offline
well,
not
offline,
but
not
on
facebook,
councilmember
holley.
L
Yeah-
and
I
just
like
to
respond-
I
mean
one
of
the
problems.
I
have
a
13
year
old
son
in
the
school
district
right
now,
and
I
know
you
have
children
and
you
live
right.
A
few
blocks
away
from
me.
You
know
the
school
is
closing
down
and
going
virtual,
not
because
it
called
it,
but
because
we're
so
much
in
debt,
because
we
were
taking
state
aid
when
near
nearby
school
districts
like
this
diona
and
everything
you
know
so
I
mean
we
are
getting
tax
breaks
and
it
does
affect
our
school
system.
L
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
way
we're
building
apartments
people
move
in
if
they
have
children
and
stuff
you're
going
to
overburden
even
more
the
school
system.
So
it
is
complex,
I'm
not
there's
no
easy
answer
or
I'm
sure
we'd
be
working
on
it.
But
these
are
the
concerns
I
have
from
my
neighbors
and
what
I'm?
L
What
people
are
telling
me
that
they
see
an
over
development
when
we
really
need
more
market
style
housing
that
you
know,
people
want
to
live,
but
the
future
will
will
will
lay
out,
especially
after
covid
we're
seeing
what's
happened
in
new
york
city
right
now
and
it's
it's
scary.
You
know
my
brother
lives
down
new
york
city
and
you
know
people
are
scared
down
there,
because
the
tax
revenue
is
going
away
and
new
york
state
depends
on
new
york
city's
tax
revenue,
and
you
know
people
are
moving
in
you
see.
L
The
housing
in
connecticut
is
booming
massachusetts.
Other
areas
and
people
are
moving
up
here.
Looking
for
space
up
here
too,
so
it's
just.
Nobody
has
a
crystal
ball.
I
understand
that,
but
you
know
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
conversations
back
and
forth
because
there
is
not
one
right
answer.
Thank.
C
L
B
A
Just
real
quick,
I
think
mr
ballerin
had
his
hand
up
real
quick.
Oh.
K
That's
okay
and
I
guess
this
is
a
much
bigger
question,
probably
for
a
different
day
than
maybe
we
should
have
a
meeting
with
with
the
with
the
capitalized
albany
and
the
idea.
K
Maybe
we
should
have
a
meeting
with
the
members
of
the
idea
and
capitalized
albany
to
discuss
the
economic
future
of
our
city,
because
one
of
my
fears
is,
after
the
pandemic
legacy
industries
that
have
been
in
our
town
town
that
have
been
in
our
city.
How
many?
How
many
of
these
state
employees
are
going
to
start
pushing
to?
K
You
know
work
remotely
and
how
is
that
going
to
affect
our?
You
know
downtown
academy
how's,
that
going
to
affect
our
commercial
properties
that
we
have
so
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
any
data
that
only
information
that
that
you
can
share
that
maybe
can
ease
some
of
our
consent
or
maybe
heighten
them.
K
C
C
You
know,
I
think
we're
coming
out
of
the
triage
phase
of
covet,
at
least
for
sort
of
the
first
wave
and
we're
starting
to
see,
be
able
to
start
to
read
some
of
the
data
and
see
some
of
the
the
implications,
both
national
trends
and
here
locally.
One
of
the
things
helping
us
do.
C
That
is
that
there
have
been
a
number
of
surveys,
both
at
the
municipal
level
through
our
organization,
as
well
as
at
the
county
and
then
regional
level,
understanding
the
implications
on
local
industry
here
that
the
pandemic
has
has
had,
and
so
the
regional
economic
development
council
is
the
last
group
that
has
done
this
through
the
center
for
economic
growth.
C
We
expect
to
have
some
results
back
from
from
that
group
that
will
be
able
to
distill
all
of
those
other
points
made
in
in
the
previous
surveys
and
be
able
to
provide
us
regionally
a
path
forward,
because
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
local
solution.
This
is
going
to
be
a
regional
and
state
solution
and
federal
solution
as
we
come
through.
So
we
are,
we
are
staying
as
much
on
the
pulse
as
we
can
of
again:
national,
regional
and
local
trends.
C
B
Thank
you,
sarah,
okay,
so
jr.
I
guess
we're
done
with
the
facebook
live
now
and
we
can
enter
into.
B
L
B
E
L
I
did
say
it,
but
somebody
talked
over
me.
I
said:
go
to
executive
session
to
discuss
appointing
one
of
the
applicants
for
the
the
board
of
the
ida.
I
didn't
say
that
many
words,
but
I
did
say
that.
G
A
That
is,
and
that
is
a
one
of
the
reasons:
public
officers,
all
105
g,
I'm
sorry,
public,
105,
public,
one
public
office
law,
105,
f.
There
we
go.
A
C
Oh
sorry,
point
of
clarification:
would
you
I'm
happy
to
stay
around
for
additional
questions
or
feedback?
I
just
you
know
want
to
know
if
I
need
to
hit
leave
or
not.
B
C
B
L
D
L
B
Okay,
second
second
enjoy
seconds
joyce.
Thank
you
and
any
more
discussion
judy,
no.