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B
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
welcome
everyone.
This
is
the
may
25th
2021
meeting
of
the
planning
economic
development
and
land
use
committee
committee
members
present
tom
hoey
he
was
here.
Is
he
still
here,
judy
doshay
councilmember,
judy,
doshey,
councilmember,
joyce
love
and
I
additional
members
present
council
members,
president
abuso
anani
and
for
staff
we
have
city
clerk,
danielle
gillespie
and
our
council
john
rafael,
piccardo
tom
did
I
mention
you,
tom
councilmember
tom
hoey's,
here.
B
I
was
just
going
to
say
brett
brett
williams,
from
corp
council's
office,
and
we
have
from
a
t,
kristin,
duffy,
melissa,
semmaday
and
vincent
paquette,
and
we
also
have
president
pro
tem
kelly.
Kimbrough
has
just
arrived
as
well.
Okay,
I
think
I
caught
everybody
welcome
everyone
we
are
here
today
to.
B
B
B
Okay.
So
this
agreement
has
been
negotiated
with
the
city
administration
over
the
past.
What
six
months
or
so
and
brett
did
you
want
to
say
anything
on
it
before
we
have
some
conversation
with
representatives
from
singular
wireless.
E
Okay,
it
was
mostly
my
my
predecessor
on
this
amy
levine,
who
worked
with
att
on
coming
up
with
the
agreement
for
what
it's
worth.
I
think
it's
a
pretty
strong
agreement
that
accomplishes
what
we
as
the
city
needed
to
accomplish,
while
being,
I
think,
fair
to
both
parties,
the
city
and
att,
I'm
happy
to.
I
don't
have
any
real
specific
comments.
I'm
happy
to
field
any
questions
that
either
the
council
or
atm
t
may
have
about
the
agreement,
but
I
suppose
well.
B
B
D
Well
style,
this
is
vincent
pocket,
I'll
just
add
on
to
what
brett
had
discussed.
It
was
actually
over
a
year
in
discussions
with
with
amy,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
some
negotiations,
and
you
know
we
think
the
agreement
as
presented
is
in
its
final
form.
At
this
point,
it
basically
mirrors
the
same
agreement
as
verizon
wireless.
D
We
all
three
parties
in
tandem,
negotiated
this
agreement
in
good
faith
and
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth,
so
we
we
hope
the
city
takes,
that
into
consideration
and
and
approves
you
know
for
for
the
group
to
get
to
progress
with
signature.
D
And
we're
happy
to
have
answer
any
questions
with
regards
to
sort
of
anything
that
we
plan
on
doing
with,
with
the
small
cell
agreement.
B
Okay,
all
right,
let's
start
with
questions
from
council
members
committee
members,
first
tom.
F
Yeah
hi,
I'm
just
curious.
What
were
some?
What
does
the
city
get
out
of
this
agreement?
I
know
you
said
you
negotiated
over
a
year.
What
do
we
get
out
of
it?
I'm
just
curious.
I've
been
in
the
field
over
45
years
in
telecommunications,
and
I
work
at
the
university
I'm
involved
with
the
school.
F
Is
this
agreement?
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
help
like
schools
and
stuff
like
that,
get
better
access
using
our
right
away
and
I'm
just
curious
and
is
our
financial?
Are
we
going
to
be
reimbursed
financially
for
the
use
of
our
right-of-way?
Thank
you.
D
Yeah,
so
the
benefit
is,
for
you
know,
18t,
with
with
small
sales
in
general.
The
the
overarching
deployment
on
these
is
to
really
relieve
your
cell
towers
right,
you'll,
see,
installations
on
cell
towers,
you'll
see
them
on
the
tops
and
the
the
primary
purpose
of
a
small
cell
is
to
alleviate
a
lot
of
the
data
traffic
from
those
macro
sites
at
any
more
local
level.
So,
for
instance,
you
can
see
the
high
school
city
albany
high
school.
We
have
a
node
proposing
in
that
vicinity.
D
So
when
you've
got
students
get
exiting
at
2,
30,
3
o'clock
and
you've
got
parents
and
students
and
siblings.
That
network
is
being
taxed
at
that
point
in
time.
That's
really
the
effectiveness
of
deploying
small
sales,
it
really
gets
to
a
local
level
and
you
will
find
that
next
to
houses
of
worship,
you'll
find
the
next
two
commercial
areas
you'll
find
them.
Next
to
universities,
high
schools,
elementary
schools.
There
there
really
are
city
parks.
There
really
are
way
area
where
large
folks
congregate
and,
as
you
can
tell
most
folks
these
days,
particularly
younger
folks
right.
D
They
just
stare
at
these
devices
for
hours
on
end,
and
you
know
when
somebody's
downloading
the
latest
and
greatest
viral
video
on
instagram.
That's
really
where
the
small
cell
comes
in
handy.
F
Well,
vincent,
what
I'm
looking
for
is
you're
making
money
on
this
okay
you're
going
to
make
money
from
everybody
using
their
cell
phone.
You
know
whether
and
verizon's
going
to
be
making
money
also,
but
there
are
people
who
can't
afford
it,
and
especially
our
schools
are,
you
know,
critical
to
learning
and
they
need
really
good
data
rates
and
stuff
like
that,
I'm
wondering!
Is
there
any
thought?
F
And
again
I
wasn't
involved
in
city
negotiation,
I'm
just
a
councilman,
but
I
would
like
to
see
what
more
that
we're
helping
out,
or
especially
our
educational
facilities
with
you
know,
with
improved
data
and
and
being
able
to
get
to
data,
because
right
now
I
mean,
if
you
don't
get
a
fiber
optic
line
in
with
a
t1
t3
or
whatever
you're
you're.
Not
getting.
You
know,
what's
going
on
we're
allowing
these
small
cell
sites
throughout
the
city,
which
is
going
to
give
you
a
better
saturation
and
a
chance
to
make
more
money.
F
C
So
this
this
is
melissa
femini,
I'm
the
area
manager
for
upstate
new
york
with
atnt.
I
I
think
that's
a
bit
of
a
misunderstanding.
Just
just
to
be
honest,
so
we're
not
really
making
any
extra
money
on
the
small
cells
we're
really
doing
that
to
meet
our
existing
customers
demand
right
now,
there's
just
too.
E
C
C
Schools
we
want
to
make
sure
that
students
have
access
to
to
a
robust
network,
and
the
idea
is
if
we
can.
If
we
can
launch
these
small
cells,
we
will
give
them
the
capacity
they
need
so
that
they
can
learn
effectively
and
use
their
devices
when
they're
in
the
school.
At
the
same
time,
we
are
also
paying
a
fee
for
the
use
of
the
right
of
way
fee
is
set
by
by
federal
law.
C
So
that's
something
that's
not
really
negotiable,
because
there's
federal
laws
that
govern
that,
but
there
is
a
fee
that
is
paid
to
the
municipality,
but
outside
of
the
benefit
in
terms
of
coverage
and
capacity.
That's
a
small
self-serve.
We
are
involved
in
some
public
projects
that
address
the
digital
divide,
which
is
what
I
think
you're
really
getting
at
to
make
sure
that
either.
C
G
So,
thank
you
councilman
for
your
question
and
thank
you
everyone
for
allowing
us
your
time
tonight.
I
work
as
the
director
of
external
affairs
and
legislative
affairs
for
att,
and
I'm
a
capital
region
resident,
so
at
t
has
made
broadly
atc
has
made
a
commitment.
It's
a
two
billion
dollar
commitment
to
can.
G
To
address
the
digital
divide,
and
we
are
doing
that
in
different
ways-
we're
offering
different
programs.
Some
are
student
offers.
Some
are
through
a
program
called
access
at
t.
We
also
are
participating
in
a
program
called
the
emergency
broadband
benefit,
which
would
be
really
great
information
for
your
constituents
to
have,
and
we
can
certainly
pass
that
along
to
you,
eligible
households
can
apply
to
be
part
of
the
emergency.
G
Broadband
benefit
sort
of
like
a
snap
benefit
and
they
would
receive
a
50
a
month,
credit
towards
procuring
whatever
it
is
that
they
need
so
say.
Your
household,
maybe
only
has
one
student
in
it
and
you
could
live
with
a
hot
spot.
You
could
procure
that
or
if
you
have
more
students
than
that,
and
you
need
a
wire
line
connection,
then
you
can
procure
that
as
well.
So
that's
another
thing
that
we're
participating
in
on
the
state
level.
We
are
the
lead
vendor
in
a
program
called
connected
new
york,
which
is
an
emergency
fund.
G
I
think
it
it's
set
up
to
to
fund
50
000
students
who
are
in
underserved
areas,
free
connectivity
and
then
as
well
as
right
in
within
the
city.
We
have
done
a
number
of
things
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
most
recently
we're
getting
ready
to
announce
that
we
donated
a
thousand
hot
spots
and
one
year
of
free
wireless
connectivity
to
albany
students
and
we're
working
right
now
too,
on
a
digital
literacy
summer
camp
with
the
police,
athletic
league
that'll
focus
on
on
students
right
in
albany.
G
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question
on
kind
of
how
we're
we're
working
to
bridge
the
digital
divide,
and
you
specifically
by
expanding
your
capacity
and
your
network
right
in
albany,
will
help
will
help
do
that.
B
Okay,
tom
did
you
have
anything
else.
F
This
is
going
to
provide
more
data
and
the
more
data
that
goes
through
the
more
money
you're
making
on
the
data,
because
most
of
the
plans
are
not
unlimited
and
you
do
throttle
people
if
they're
heavy
users-
and
we
know
that
and
it's
based
on
the
you
know
how
many
megabytes
and
stuff
like
that
you're
getting
and
you're
here
to
make
money.
I
understand
that,
but
let's
talk
about
telecommunications
in
general.
When
phones
were
first
introduced,
it
was
a.
F
F
You
know
throttles
how
much
money
and
you
know
that
we
have
to
pay,
and
you
know
what
what
what's
been
happening.
You
know
we
had
the
1984
judge
green
decision
where
they
broke
up
18t
into
all
the
you
know,
the
7r
box
and
stuff,
but
what's
going
on
over
the
years
since
84
is
all
these
telecommunication
companies
have
bought
each
other
out,
so
there's
only
three
or
four
large
wireless
distributors.
F
So
you
know
there
is
money
to
be
made,
and
you
know
my
other
concern
is
that
when
we
go
from
the
wired
network
to
a
wireless
there's,
no
unions-
and
I
know
it's
not
as
much
what
atp
is
verizon,
but
I
do
have
concerns.
So
thank
you
for
your
answer.
You
know
it
is
what
it
is.
I
guess.
B
H
Thank
you
kathy.
I
do
have
a
you
know,
a
number
of
questions
so
feel
free
to
you
know,
cut
me
off
and
let
somebody
else
jump
in.
If
you
know
I
don't
want
to
monopolize
this,
I
want
to
let
other
people
have
an
opportunity.
Okay,
so
my
first
I
want
to.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
a
little
bit
of
the
history
here.
H
The
planning
board,
the
the
planning
department,
was
working
on
standards.
The
planning
board
passed
standards
approved
standards
that
then
were
supposed
to
come
to
the
common
council
for
our
action.
So
they
did
that.
I
think
about
18
months
ago,
the
planning
board,
so
there
are
standards
that
have
been
approved
by
the
planning
board.
I
am
I
have.
I
have
two
questions
along
these
lines.
H
It
says
that
these
agreements
require
public
council
approval,
so
I
assume
the
carriers
know
that,
because
they've
been
negotiating
agreements
with
a
lot
of
other
municipalities,
the
administration
knew
that,
and-
and
especially
given
that
those
standards
were
pending,
we
asked
for
staff
to
produce
an
ordinance
that
actually
reasonably
reflected
incorporating
those
standards,
and
you
know,
with
public
health
count
with
republica
with
the
common
council
approval,
as
opposed
to
being
given.
We
initially
were
given
an
ordinance
that
basically
just
said
that.
D
H
Chief
planning
officer
can
approve
whatever
standards
he
wants
for
these,
so
and
but
it
was
always
expected
that
there
were
going
to
be
standards
and
that
we
were
going
to
approve
something
so
that
happened
18
months
ago,
and
I'm
wondering
why
it
is
that
neither
the
carriers
nor
the
administration
came
to
us
before
this.
H
Before
I'm
hearing
at
t
say
the
agreement
is
complete,
you
know,
that's
not
my
understanding.
My
understanding
is,
we
need
to
approve
it
and,
and
it
would
have
been
appropriate
for
us
to
have
been
involved
in
the
discussions
before
this.
You
know
before
it's
finalized.
H
So
the
two
questions
I'd
say:
are
the
standards
that
the
planning
board
actually
approved,
incorporated
in
toto
into
these
agreements
and
then
why?
Why
is
it
that
the
common
council
was
not
involved
prior
to
this.
E
E
You
know
I,
I
wasn't
privy
to
all
the
conversations
that
various
council
members
may
have
had
with
amy,
but
I
I
think
amy
at
least
had
some
conversations
with
some
council
members
about
the
negotiation
of
these
contracts
and.
H
I
think
when
we
say
right
right,
I
just
wanna.
I
just
want
to
address
that
she
contacted
me
about
a
month
before
she
was
leaving
to.
Let
me
know
that
she
had
been
in
discussions
and
negotiations
and
then
at
that
point
I
ian
also
was
working
on
the
ordinance
that
we
had
met
on
18
months
ago,
and
she
did
not.
Let
me
know
at
that
point
essentially
that
the
negotiations
were
near
complete.
H
She
gave
me
the
impression
she
was
working
prior
to
that
she
had
given
me
the
impression
she
was
working
on
the
ordinance.
She
didn't
say
anything
to
me
about
negotiating
the
actual
agreements
that
then,
would
be
coming
before
the
common
council.
You
know
it
seems
to
me,
as
though
you
know
we
put
the
cart
before
the
horse.
In
terms
of
there
was
an
ordinance
it
was
pending.
H
We
had
a
meeting.
It
was
understood
that
staff
was
going
to
be
coming
back
to
us
with,
with
with
an
ordinance
that
might
be
viable
for
us
to
actually
adopt.
B
You
know
I
just
I
agree
completely
with
judy
on
this.
We
should
have
been
notified
much
earlier
on
the
negotiations
and
you
know
we
would
you
know.
Ideally
you
want
an
ordinance
in
place,
so
I
don't
know
you
also
asked
the
question
about
standards
approved
by
the
were
they
approved
by
the
planning
board.
Are
they
in
the
resolution
and
ordinance
spread.
E
Obviously,
the
ordinance
has
been
introduced
now
and
as
far
as
the
contracts
themselves
go,
I
think
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
covered
in
the
ordinance
are
are
addressed
in
the
contract.
I
mean
the
ordinance
actually
mirrors
the
contract
in
a
lot
of
ways.
E
I
don't
know
the
contract
actually
spells
out
all
of
the
aesthetic
standards
and
other
things
that
the
ordinance
will
spell
out
as
written,
but
I
suppose
also
that
any
once
the
ordinance
is
passed,
which
I
assume
will
happen
sooner
rather
than
later,
once
that's
passed
any
applications
that
at
t
or
any
other
carrier
attempts
to
take
out
with
the
city,
those
those
will
be
subject
to
the
ordinance
and
and
have
to
comply
with
the
standards
and
the
the
aesthetic
standards
and
all
other
standards
that
the
ordinance
puts
into
effect.
H
The
ordinance
actually
has
very
few
standards
in
it
and
and
what
the
planning
board
approved
and
what
we
were
on
notice
as
to
standards
was.
I
think
I
don't
know
15
20
pages
worth
of
standards
that
we're
going
to
be
considered.
B
B
Think
I
do
think
that's
a
concern
here,
absolutely
that
our
ordinance
could
be
made
more
complete.
I
A
More
because
the
standard,
the
aesthetic
standards
and
all
that
are
controlled
by
the
fcc.
B
I
I
think
I
I
sent
an
email
to.
I
was
looking
at
the
new
york
city,
you
know
what
they
do
in
new
york,
city
and
and
their
friend.
I
was
looking
at
their
franchise
agreement
with
I.
I
think
it
was
a
t,
and
you
know
it's
77
pages
long,
so
they
go.
They
go
into
very
specific
detail
about
all
types
of
things.
You
know
you
know
just
the
the
actual
shape
and
color
the
type
of
paint.
That's
used
for
these.
B
These
boxes
in
just
you
know,
there's
just
so
many
different
areas.
I
I
also
noticed
that
they
had
a
way
I
mean
one
of
the
big
concerns
here
and
tom
started
to
talk
about
it
is
that
we
have
no
assurance
of
these.
You
know
wireless
facilities
being
placed
in
our
underserved
neighborhoods
and
that's
what
this
council
wants.
We
want.
You
know
we
have
a
very
strong
equity
agenda
and
we
want
people
in
our
underserved
neighborhoods
to
be
able
to.
B
B
I
think
you
know-
and
you
know
it's
great-
that
we
we're
hearing
that
att
has
done
a
great
deal
out
in
the
community
with
the
hot
spots,
but
I
have
to
say,
with
the
hot
spots
I
mean:
oftentimes
people
will
get
overcharged,
you
know
you
have
you
have
there
are
limits,
those
are
really
band-aids
and
you
know
the
other
funding
that
has
taken
place
is
all
is
all
terrific,
but
I
think
we
really
want
assurance
that
these
facilities
are
going
to
be
set
up
in
our
underserved
neighborhoods.
B
H
Well,
the
the
the
other
question
I
had
with
regard
to
the
fee.
I
understand
that
currently
the
fcc
has
established
a
fee
and
I
believe
these
agreements
simply
put
that
particular
fee
in
there.
B
I
I
apologize,
I'm
gonna
jump
in
only
because
I
have
read
differently.
They
say
I
think
these
are
suggested.
Fees
strongly
suggested
fees,
but
I
don't
know
that
they're
hard
and
fast
fees.
Maybe
someone
from
a
atm
t
can
comment
on
that.
C
C
Are
hard
and
fast
fees
promulgated
by
the
fcc
they
they
are
caps
on
how
much
can
be
required
so
that
they're
they're,
not
guidelines.
That
is.
B
B
C
D
H
C
C
I
mean
the
agreement
reads
that
if
the
fcc
changes
its
regulations,
we
can
renegotiate
that
portion
of
the
agreement.
So
if
the
fcc
changed
its
fee
regulations
too
it's
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
municipality,
we
could
then
renegotiate
at
that
time.
If
that's
the
way
the
fcc
guidelines
read,
I
don't
anticipate
the
fcc
changing
its
mind
in
a
week.
It
took
them
quite
a
long
time.
I.
C
Order
but
yeah
there
is
language
in
the
agreement
that
allows
for
renegotiation
if,
if
the
current
regulations
change
so
that
that
would
be
an
option,
if
that
happened,.
E
I
I
have
a
lot
of
noises
going
on
outside
my
window,
so
I'm
trying
to
stay
on
mute
as
much
as
possible,
but
the
relevant
section
is
section:
eight
subsection
e
of
the
contract.
It's
on
page
six
on
page
seven.
H
Kathy
well,
I'm
looking
that
up.
I
defer
to
other
council
members.
B
I'm
sorry
tom
hold
on
a
second
just
for
a
second.
I
want
to
just
go
over
the
you
know
the
costs
that
are
reflected
here,
it's
500
per
application
and
you
can
have
up
to
five
facilities.
Those
are
the
those
are
the
boxes
and
whatever
else
is
connected
to
them,
and
then
it's
a
hundred
dollars
for
each
additional
facility
and
then
those
are
one-time
costs
and
then
for
use
of
the
our
right-of-way
you
get.
B
The
city
would
get
270
per
facility
per
year
and
let's
see
what
else
that's
for
a
new
poll.
I
think.
Oh,
no!
That's
for
yes
for
facility
per
year
and
a
thousand
dollars
if
you
if
a
new
poll
has
to
be
set
up
and
that's
a
one-time
fee,
and
I
think
I'm
missing
something
on
that.
B
Nothing:
okay,
all
right
tom,
go
ahead.
F
Yeah
I
wanted
to
talk
about
because
somebody
had
brought
up
about
aesthetics
and
I
sent
jr
right
before
the
meeting
a
picture
of
the
telephone
pole
on
my
block.
That's
damaged,
woodpeckers
got
into
it,
there's
huge
holes
on
the
bottom
and
it's
also
bent
and
when
the
company
came
to
put
up
the
the
small
cell
site,
I
showed
it
to
them
and
they
didn't
care,
they
said.
Well,
we
don't
care
at
some
point.
F
I
do
have
a
concern
about
how
they
cho
choose,
which
calls
to
use,
and
then
the
second
thing
is
what
we
heard
about.
Two
years
ago,
people
came
home
from
work
and
all
of
a
sudden
there
was
a
metal
pole
with
the
small
cell
on
it
right
in
front
of
their
house.
How
do
we
deal
with
that
type
of
situation
where
the
location
of
these
independent
you
know
holes
will
be
placed?
B
Okay,
brett
did
you
want
to
respond
to
that
at
all
or
someone
from
a
t,
who's
best
equipped
to
respond
was.
B
Oh
no,
no!
He
was
asking
about
placement
of
poles
that
poor
placement.
How
do
we
ensure
that
these
poles
are
placed
in
in
areas
that
are
that
don't
impact
people's
views
and
so
on
and
so
forth
that
there's
they're
put
up.
D
D
You
know
not
not
capable
of
handling
additional
loading,
so
we
as
we
as
consultants
for
att
att's
rf
team,
identifies
the
need.
We
search
structures
in
not
all
national
grid
and
verizon
co-owned
polls
are
available
for
our
use.
There
are
only
any
poles
with
major
electrical
equipment
are
not
available
for
att
to
use.
So
we
try
to
pick
a
cleaner,
less
cluttered
pole
and
submit
that
candidate
information
to
these
rf
team.
They
pick
the
location
and
then
we
have
to
submit
an
application
to
national
grid
and
verizon
to
they
run
out.
D
They
survey
the
poll.
They
do
a
visual
inspection
of
the
poll
and
they
do
a
poll
loading
analysis.
18T
also
does
its
own
poll
loading
analysis
to
ensure
that
the
additional
loading
is
capable
to
handle
the
equipment
and
the
second
part
of
that
question
I
believe,
with
regards
to
with
aesthetics
and
the
small
cell.
This
standards
now
is
12
pages
long
and,
in
my
opinion,
it's
extremely
detailed
with
regards
to
the
locations
in
the
city,
the
types
of
structures
within
the
city
to
be
more
aesthetically
pleasing
than
others.
D
So,
in
my
view,
it's
really
really
detailed
and
it's
actually
pretty
challenging
to
pick
the
locations
that
you're
looking
for
us
to
to
attach,
to
or
or
to
build
new
structures
in.
So
it's
a
very
detailed
aesthetic
standard
and
it's
very
complete.
It's
it's
more
complete
than
most
communities
that
I've
seen
throughout
the
northeast.
D
F
One
of
the
things
that
came
up-
and
you
know
I
understand-
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
more
detailed,
but
does
homeowners.
If
somebody
owns
like
a
house
or
a
piece
of
property,
will
they
be
notified
before
this?
All
of
a
sudden,
a
poll
appears
in
front
of
their
house.
We
had
this
problem
like
two
years
ago.
It
was
newspaper
stories
I
had
phone
calls.
I
know
other
council
members
had
phone
calls,
we
didn't
know
what
was
going
on,
but
that's
a
big
concern,
especially
you
know,
public
relations
that
you
know
all
of
a
sudden.
D
Yeah,
that's
a
fair
question
and
your
aesthetic
standards,
your
design
standards
and
presumably
your
your
future
ordinance
is
going
to
address
that.
But
your
your
design
stand
is
already
dictated
there's
a
250
degree
radius
for
about
a
notification.
D
So,
by
by
comparison
most
other
cities
and
towns,
because
the
structures
are
generally
smaller
right,
they're,
not
180,
foot,
guide,
towers
or
monopoles,
you
usually
typically
have
to
notify
just
folks
within
the
vicinity.
So
if
it's
in
front
of
your
house
you're
going
to
notify
that
individual,
if
it's
across
the
street,
you
got
to
notify
that.
So
me,
a
250
foot
radius
is
in
fact.
E
And
council
member
hoey,
the
revocable
sidewalk
privilege,
application
that's
attached
to
the
agreement
is
exhibit
a
that
does
lay
out
that
the
applicant
shall
provide
notification
in
a
format
acceptable
to
the
city
that
an
application
has
been
submitted
for
review
to
all
affected
property
owners
within
a
certain
radius.
So,
okay,
thank
you.
B
Okay,
other
questions
and
comments.
H
H
And
the
only
language
in
here
that
provides
some
level
of
protection
says
the
carrier
will
not
unduly
discriminate
against
any
underserved
wards
so
unduly
they
can
have
their
own
criteria
for
when
what
thresholds
need
to
be
met
with
regard
to
people
contracting
with
a
t
or
verizon,
except
you
know,
having
contracts
in
a
particular
area
potentially
and
justify
not
providing
service
in
an
area
based
upon
fewer
individuals.
H
C
We
base
our
build
plan
on
rf
need
so
wherever
we
see
the
greatest
holes
or
the
greatest
demand
for
coverage,
that's
where
we're
going
to
put
the
small
cells
because
that's
what
they
do.
It
fills
in
the
holes
where
we
need
coverage,
so
we
don't
discriminate
based
on
underserved
neighborhoods,
but
we
also
wouldn't
necessarily
deploy
a
small
cell
in
a
neighborhood
that
doesn't
warrant
it
based
on
our
coverage
and
capacity
objectives.
C
B
B
I
I
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
we
take
some
time
to
digest
what
has
been
discussed
tonight
and
then
we'll
get
back
together
and
at
the
next
meeting,
to
make
some
kind
of
decision
kathy.
H
I
think
we
received
a
powerpoint
presentation
from
one
of
the
carriers
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
want
somebody
to
go
over
that
powerpoint
presentation.
So
we
have
that
information
at
this
point.
J.R.
B
That
was
that's.
B
It
is
but
jr,
I
think,
invited
verizon
to
come
at
6
30.
B
So
we
do
have
a
little
timer,
so
I
I,
unless
there's
anything
else,
I'd
like
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
people
here
representing
at
t
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
you
to
let
you
know
when
the
next
meeting
is
and
we'll
make
a
decision,
then.
E
B
Okay,
let
the
record
show
that
alfred
councilmember,
alfredo
ballerin,
has
joined
us.
B
Okay,
so
they're
not
here
right,
j.r,
they're,
not
gonna,
be.
B
Okay,
any
other
thoughts
people
want
to
well
now
now
we're
going
to
listen
to
this
will
be
resolution,
3742-21r
a
resolution
authorizing
we'll
let
them
in
jr
this.
This
is
cellco
partnership,
doing
business
as
verizon
wireless
for
installation
of
telecommunications
equipment
on
city
owned
right
of
right.
B
Subway:
okay,
why
don't
we
go
through
and
do
introductions
again
welcome
everyone
from
verizon,
hi,
chair.
B
Hi
we're
going
to
do
some
introductions,
I'm
kathy
fahey,
chair
of
the
planning,
economic
and
development
and
land
use
committee.
Other
committee
members,
councilmember,
judy
dausche
councilmember,
tom
hoey,
councilmember,
joyce,
love
and
council,
member
alfredo
ballerin
other
council
members
present
awasu
anani
and
president
pro
tem
kelly
kimbrough,
and
we
have
staff
danielle,
gillespie,
our
city
clerk
and
our
council.
John
rafael,
pacharda,
and
I
see
we
have.
Maybe
you
folks
from
verizon
can
introduce
yourselves.
J
Sure
sure,
thanks
chair
and
thank
you
other
council
members
for
giving
verizon
opportunity
to
meet
you
all
today
to
talk
about
small
cell
agreement.
My
name
is
chip
lawrence,
I'm
a
verizon
state
government
affairs
department.
I
work
right
here
at
albany
born
and
raised
in
the
capital
region
and
with
me
today,
we've
got
mark
from
our
wireless
network
team.
We've
got
maggie
hayes
also
from
the
wireless
network
team
and
we've
got
dave
brennan
from
young
summer,
who
is
outside
council
for
verizon.
B
Okay,
well
welcome
folks,
so
we're
here
to
discuss
the
franchise
agreement
that
was
negotiated
and
my
understanding
is
that
you're
able
to
do
a
presentation.
You
have
information
you'd
like
to
share
with
us.
J
We
we
do
I'd
like
to
kick
it
over
to
maggie
if
you'd
be
inclined
and
we'd
like
to
walk
through
a
quick
slide
show
that
kind
of
just
gives
a
30
000
foot
view
of
what
a
small
cell
is.
I
know,
there's
probably
varying
degrees
of
understanding
of
the
small
cell
technology,
the
benefit
that
it
will
bring
to
the
community
and
then
from
there
take
any
questions
from
the
team.
K
Yeah
thanks
chef,
I
just
want
to
say
hi
and
thank
you
guys
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
share
some
information
with
you.
I
did
send
out
a
powerpoint.
Hopefully
you
all
have
it.
It
just
gives
kind
of
a
high
level
overview
of
small
cells.
Why
they're
important
what
they
do?
Why
we
deploy
them,
where
we
deploy
them
and
kind
of
how
we're
trying
to
work
with
municipalities
to
afford
this
relationship
to
better
bring
wireless
services
to
communities?
K
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
slide
by
slide,
it's
more
of
kind
of
an
information
packet
for
you
to
go
through.
I
do
want
to
draw
your
attention,
though,
down
to
slides
10-13,
where
we
kind
of
give
you
a
visual
representation
of
what
these
look
like.
Maggie.
B
They
are
maggie.
Is
that
something
we
can
share
so
that
people
can
go
through
that.
K
Oh
there,
it
is
okay,
yes,
thank
you
so
slide
10.
So
so,
when
we
say
small
cell
and
I'm
not
sure
how
familiar
everybody
is
with
the
technology
and
with
the
terms
that
we
use
a
small
cell
is
exactly
like
what
it
sounds
like
it's.
K
Instead
of
our
big
150
200
foot
towers
with
the
eight
foot
antennas
on
them,
technology
has
developed
to
the
point
where
we
can
slim
those
down
to
be
exactly
what
you
see
in
the
picture
on
the
left,
which
is
a
small
4g
canister
on
top
of
the
pole,
with
the
equipment
cabinet
about
three
quarters
of
the
way
down.
K
So
that's
what
it
looks
like
we
kind
of
just
compared
it
to
what
you
might
see
with
a
transformer
and
a
utility
box,
just
to
kind
of
show
you
a
comparison
of
what
they
look
like
it's
pretty
similar.
So
a
lot
of
places
where
we
do
put
these
up.
People
rarely
notice
it
because
it
looks
like
equipment.
That's
already
on
the
pole,
we
use
these
in
place
of
the
big
macro
antennas
to
kind
of
supplement
those
macro
antennas.
The
macro
antennas,
eight
foot
antennas.
They
they
go.
K
Probably
for
a
couple
miles
right,
they
provide
service
to
neighborhoods
in
three
different
directions
for
miles.
What
we're
seeing
is
with
the
increased
use
in
technology-
and
I
mean
instead
of
one
smartphone
people-
have
two
or
three
smartphones
we're
looking
at
probably
10
to
15
devices
per
household
these
days.
So
there
is
a
demand
for
capacity
that
we
are
we're
kind
of
struggling
to
keep
up
with.
K
Yeah
yeah
they're
about
what
you
typically
think
of
as
a
macro
tower
they're
about
150
feet,
200
feet
tall,
usually
there's
more
than
one
carrier
on
them.
They
have
the
eight-foot
antennas
they're,
the
ones
that
we
usually
have
to
lease
out
a
big
parcel
of
land
and
go
through
a
couple.
Zoning
meetings
and
they've
they've
been
around
for
years,
probably
20,
30
years.
So.
K
For
the
small
cells
has
probably
came
about
about,
I
would
say
seven
to
ten
years
ago,
where
we've
been
doing
this,
and
this
is
much
more
specialized
to
target
specific
areas
where
we
see
capacity
being
needed,
so
they
need
additional
capacity
in
certain
areas.
These
come
in.
They
target
a
specific
location,
which
is
also
why
we
need
more
of
them
than
we
do
the
macro
towers.
They
don't
go
as
far
and
it's
much
more
specialized
to
a
dense
area
of
people.
K
So
this
is
an
example
of
4g
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide
down
to
number
11.
yep,
so
these
are
just
some
more
examples
of
what
they
look
like.
These
are
our
different
poles.
You
can
see
the
metal
decorative
poles
which
make
it
a
little
less
like
a
utility
pole,
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
slide
down,
we,
I
actually
have
a
couple
examples
of
polls
that
we
have
installed
in
both
syracuse
and
schenectady.
K
We
have
we
have
a
couple
of
these,
probably
I
would
say
about
12
to
15
that
are
activated
in
schenectady
specific
to
5g.
So
you
can
see
the
syracuse
light
pole
on
the
left
and
on
the
right.
The
one
on
the
left
is
a
5g
that
you
see
the
5g
antennas
on
top
and
the
benefit
with
the
5g
is
there's
no
additional
equipment
cabinet
needed
all.
The
equipment
is
fused
right
to
the
antenna
which
makes
it
smaller
and
less
intrusive
on
the
poles.
K
K
Not
yet
the
reason
why
is
so
these
antennas,
because
the
radios
are
infused
directly
to
the
antenna?
We
cannot
share
them
with
other
carriers.
Each
carrier
would
need
to
have
their
own
antennas
and
we
have
not
yet
come
across
a
situation
where
we
have
needed
5g
service
in
exactly
the
same
poll
as
acnc
or
t-mobile
have
needed
it.
So
we
have
not
yet
seen
a
co-location
of
5g
antennas
unfolds.
K
K
Yep,
so
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
show
you
a
visual
representation
of
what
what
we're
looking
to
do
and
what
these
are
going
to
look
like
when
we
actually
get
them
installed.
The
reason
why
we
pursued
this
agreement
with
the
city
is
first
of
all.
K
So
if
you
utilize
that
and
for
speed
to
market
and
because
utility
is
already
there
targeting
existing
utility
poles
in
the
public
right-of-way
is
the
easiest
and
fastest
approach
that
we
have
seen
to
do
this.
So,
in
order
to
do
that,
we
also
wanted
to
approach
the
municipalities
to
come
up
with
with
an
agreement
that
basically
allows
us
to
utilize
the
right
of
way
and
put
our
equipment
in
the
right
of
way,
while
paying
the
municipality,
basically
cost
recovery
fee
for
use
of
that
poll
and
use
of
that
space.
K
So
that's
the
reason
for
the
mla
why
we've
been
pursuing
mlas
with
all
these
municipalities
and
kind
of?
Why
we're
targeting
the
right
of
way
because
of
ease
of
access
utilities
are
already
there.
It's
less
obtrusive,
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
private
landowners,
and
the
mla
should
also
help
to
streamline
the
process
for
permitting
purposes
which
we've
done
a
couple.
K
I
think
small
cells
in
the
right
of
way
in
albany
working
with
the
city
planner
to
get
a
building
permit,
so
we
have
done
a
couple
of
them,
but
for
these
5g
ones-
and
I
mean
I-
I
believe
you
guys
are
probably
aware
a
little
bit
of
the
sec
order,
but
the
fcc
stepped
in
and
kind
of
tried
to
make
a
streamlined
process
for
this
to
help
5g
get
to
these
communities
faster.
F
B
F
Hi,
my
name
is
tom
howie,
I'm
ford.
I've
been
in
the
telecommunications
field
45
years
I
work
at
the
university
at
albany,
I'm
a
network
design
engineer.
I
have
some
basic
problems.
I
do
have.
I
consider
a
small
cell
in
my
house.
It's
called
wireless,
but
my
problem
is:
I
can't
get
a
broadband
access
to
it.
F
Verizon
in
other
communities
have
brought
in
fires
and
we're
being
told,
there's
no
fios.
Now
I
understand-
and
I
guess
my
theory
on
this
is
on
the
wired
side.
You
have
to
have
it's
a
unionized
workforce,
but
with
the
wireless
it's
not
regulated,
so
you
can
have
whatever
workforce
you
want.
F
So
I
have
a
problem
with
that
and
we
know
that
whether
you
want
to
say
it
or
not,
5g
is
going
to
be
the
way
to
get
broadband
into
the
house,
and
you
know
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
it
coming
up
in
the
few
years,
and
I
did
grill
a
t
saying
what
do
we
get
out
of
this
you're
going
to
be
making
a
lot
of
money
on
this
and
18t
felt?
Well
we're
not
really.
F
You
are
you're
going
to
be
pushing
more
data
and
most
plans
charged
by
data,
so
my
concern
is
for
schools
and
for
educational.
You
know,
like
colleges
and
universities,
we're
forced
to
pay
the
you
know
for
the
we
actually
invented
the
internet.
That's
making
all
this
stuff
happen,
but
we're
being
forced
to
pay
top
dollar
so
is
verizon
planning
or
you
know,
public
relations.
F
What
are
you
doing
to
help
those
who
can't
afford
this
digital
divide
that
that
we
have-
and
my
second
thing
is-
is
the
aesthetics
of
the
po.
There
was
a
pulpit
on
my
block,
I'm
sorry,
a
small
cell
put
on
the
pole
on
my
block.
The
pole
was
woodpeckers
had
gotten
into
it
and
there's
huge
holes
on
it.
I
sent
the
pictures
to
jr
and
I'll
be
glad
to
get
them
to
you
when
the
guys
came
to
put
the
small
cell
in
I
talked
to
them.
I
showed
them
the
pole.
F
The
poles
actually
bent
and
is
going
to
break
at
some
point
and
they
continue
to
install
it
anyhow.
I
am
concerned
about
that.
You
know
the
bad
storm
that
big
in
town
up
there,
it's
gonna
catch
more
wind
that
pole
can't
snap
and
I've
seen
poles
snap
in
storms
in
my
neighborhood.
So
I
have
two
things
for
you:
what
what
is
verizon
going
to
do
for
us
with
the
digital
divide
and
aesthetics?
What
can
we
do
to
make
aesthetics
a
little
bit
better?
F
K
C
A
K
Let
chip
jump
in
on
the
digital
divide
stuff,
but
as
far
as
this
said,
it
goes.
I
I
mean
I
I
know.
Albany
has
a
pretty
hefty
aesthetic
guideline
package
that
we
are
required
to
file
follow
for
the
mla
and
traditionally,
when
we
work
with
national
grid
or
vct,
whoever
the
poll
owner
is.
We
have
to
do
some
sort
of
structural
report
on
that
poll
before
we
can
even
attach
our
equipment
to
it
and
a
lot
of
times
if
it's
not
structurally
sound.
K
We
have
to
at
our
own
cost,
replace
that
pole
before
we're
allowed
to
attach
our
equipment
to
it,
that's
standard
practice,
so
I'm
sure
ones
get
missed.
I
hate
to
say
that
that's
probably
accurate,
but
with
them
with
the
amount
that's
happening
or
if
it's
also
acnc
or
t-mobile,
I
don't
I
don't.
I
don't
know
who,
if
it
was
us
or
who
it
was,
but
we
we
do
work
with
natural
grid
and
those
poll
owners
too
to
make
sure
that
those
polls
are
structurally
found
and
nine
times
out
of
ten.
K
We
have
to
put
a
new
poll
in
as
far
as
as
college
campuses
go.
I
know
that
this
isn't
suny
albany,
but
we
are
working
with
the
university
of
buffalo
on
a
program
with
them
to
put
in
some
5g
antennas
around
their
campus
so
that
they
can
test
some
5g
equipment
and
bring
better
service
to
their
students
and
not
related
to
5g,
but
we
also
are
currently
working
with
suny
albany
to
put
in
a
big
indoor
system
in
place
to
help
enhance
the
wireless
coverage
in
that
building.
K
So
I
know
a
lot
of
those
buildings
are
big
and
brick
and
old,
and
it
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
coverage,
especially
the
tunnels
under
this
under
the
university.
So
we
do
have
a
pretty
close
relationship,
especially
with
some
of
the
bigger
universities
around
upstate
new
york,
to
try
to
help
them
with
their
wireless
coverage
and
to
enhance
that
service
for
them
there.
K
As
far
as
the
digital
vibe
goes,
I
think
chip
is
probably
a
little
more
qualified
to
talk
on
that
unless
you
have
any
other
questions
directed
to
aesthetics,
yeah.
J
Well,
you
can't
get
it
because
it
wasn't.
The
agreement
was
never
reached
with
the
city
to
deploy
files
and,
and
what
I'll
say
is
there
were
other
municipalities
across
upstate?
You
know
15
years
ago
as
well
that
agreements
were
not
reached,
and-
and
here
we
are
at
the
table,
you
know
asking
to
you
know
for
you
for
the
city
of
albany.
You
know
to
not
miss
another
bite
of
the
apple.
J
This
product
has
files
like
speeds
and
will
run
throughout
the
streets
into
the
businesses
and
the
residents
throughout
your
community,
giving
you
that
bios
without
having
the
wire
to
the
home,
I
often
say
in
meetings
at
the
capitol
a
lot
of
the
staff
members
are
younger
than
I
am.
I
have
children
that
are
teenagers,
that
demographic
doesn't
want
to
be
wired
down,
whether
it's
a
home
phone,
the
majority
of
americans,
the
majority
of
new
yorkers-
do
not
have
a
home
phone.
J
They
use
this
as
their
home
phone
now
we're
seeing
them
use
this
and
ipads
as
their
main
tool
to
access
the
internet
and
even
to
watch
tv
through
broadband
streaming
services.
So
so
the
demographics
have
shifted.
You
know
the
behavior
of
the
industry.
Frankly,
they
are
the
ones
pushing
us
based
on
the
usage.
J
We
are
seeing
exponential
growth
in
wireless
data
usage
that
started
before
covid
and
has
only
been
exacerbated
during
cobit,
so
we
would
be
competing
with
ourselves
to
then
put
a
file,
but
to
be
clear
on
some
of
those
pictures
that
maggie
put
up
the
the
reason
we
must
use
the
right-of-way
and
attach
to
existing
utility
poles.
These
small.
A
J
All
have
fiber
optic
cable
connected
to
them.
They
all
require
power,
so
it's
a
natural
location
for
them,
which
happens
to
put
them
right
out
in
front
of
the
homes
right
out
in
front
of
the
businesses
right
out
in
front
of
the
libraries
right
out
in
front
of
the
schools.
So
this
is
the
next
opportunity
and
it's
where
technology
is
going
due
to
the
demand
from
the
demographics
I
did
want
to
also
you
mentioned
the
digital
divide,
I'm
extremely
proud
of
verizon.
J
I
started
out
as
a
technician
in
schenectady
and
albany
in
the
90s.
You
know
now
we're
all
one
company,
wireless
and
wire
line.
I
think
verizon
is
an
absolute
leader
in
trying
to
solve
the
digital
divide.
We
are
often
in
conversation
with
our
federal
team
at
the
fcc.
We
are
a
major
participant
in
the
emergency
broadband
benefit.
J
We
see
that
need
here
and
now,
in
our
faces
in
our
families
needing
broadband
to
work
to
now
school
apply
for
jobs.
Telecommute
with
your
doctor
right,
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
things
and
there
are
programs
there.
We
say
that
emergency
broadband
benefit
is
fantastic,
but
frankly
it's
temporary.
J
We
are
asking
congress
to
integrate
a
long-term
solution
and
we
want
to
see
the
families
in
need
empowered
just
like
they
are
with
snap
benefits
and
heat
benefits.
They
get
that
snap
benefit
card
and
funds
are
loaded
onto
that
card
every
month.
So
they
have
the
empowerment
to
go
to
market
and
purchase
what
they
need
specific
for
their
families,
which
is
unique
to
each
family
same
with
a
broadband
offering.
J
They
should
be
loaded
with
a
benefit
and
then
select
a
package
that
best
suits
their
needs.
It
may
be
a
single
mom
with
a
young
child
that
needs
really
minimal.
25
meg
speeds,
it
may
be
a
family
of
six
with
four
teenagers
that
are
you've
got
six
users
all
day.
They
need
200,
meg
or
more
up
to
a
gig,
so
tailoring
it
to
let
that
consumer
have
that
choice
and
empowering
them
is
what
we
are
advocating
at
the
federal
level
to
solve
digital
divide.
J
Obviously,
with
that
the
network
needs
to
be
in
place
and-
and
we
did
share
with
mr
piccardo-
I
hope
he
shared
it
with
all
of
you
and
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
it
yet.
I
welcome
a
call
offline
with
any
one
of
you
that
wants
to
talk
about
what
verizon
has
done
specific
in
new
york.
More
about
the
the
ebb
we
put
out
a
white
paper,
and-
and
you
know
our
our
motto
is
accelerating
america.
We
recognize
this
and
we
must
solve
this
together
right.
J
It's
not
an
industry
alone
to
solve
the
digital
divide.
It's
forward-thinking,
policymakers,
like
yourself
that
recognize
it
as
well,
and
what
is
the
path
to
success?
You've
got
to
get
industry
to
build,
and
then
we
need
that's
the
accessibility.
We've
got
an
affordability
piece
which
we
just
spoke
about
right.
There
needs
to
be
some
help
and
some
assistance
at
the
federal
level,
and
there
is
there's,
there's
billions
of
dollars
out
there,
but
let's
get
a
permanent
fix
in
place
so
that
it
doesn't
go
away.
J
You
know
december
31st
if,
if
life
goes
back
somewhat
normal
out
of
coba,
it
needs
to
be
a
permanent
enhancement
given
to
these
families
and
then
also
adoption
so
so
they're.
You
know
I
laugh
a
little
bit.
My
kids
are
13
14.
They
have
no
idea
how
to
use
a
rotary
phone
and
my
my
mother
enjoyed
being
able
to
teach
them
something
like
that.
Conversely,
my
mom
doesn't
know
how
to
download
an
app
or
use
her
phone
as
a
remote
for
the
tv.
J
J
Okay
and
then-
and
then
you
would
you
had
mentioned
the
poll
where
I
think
verizon
is
in
the
most
unique
position
compared
to
other
wireless
carriers
that
are
out
there.
We
are
saw
a
wire
line
company,
you
know
councilman.
I
would
love
to
connect
with
you
in
albany.
J
If
you've
got
details
and
pictures,
please,
if
you
could
get
them
to
me,
you
know
we
are
a
poll
owner,
so
even
verizon
wireless
as
as
maggie
alluded
to
they
sign
agreements
with
verizon
wireline
as
that
poll
owner
along
with
national
grid,
and
and
we
have
that
responsibility
of
maintaining
that
network.
J
If
there's
a
small
cell
application
we
go
out,
we
look,
our
engineers
assess,
doesn't
need
to
be
replaced.
The
one
you're
referring
to
I'm,
not
sure
who
that
carrier
was.
Was
it
an
extinct
or
who
came
out
and
you
know,
according
to
you,
ignored
or
wasn't
concerned,
you
know
my
colleague,
david
lemondo
and
I
often
were
on
a
first
name
basis
with
many
many
many
public
works
commissioners
across
you
know
the
verizon's
new
york
footprint
on
double
poles
or
aesthetic
concerns
with
individual
polls,
and
we
asked
for
photos
again.
J
I
spent
a
lot
of
years
as
a
technician,
so
I
know
safety
and
soundness
of
our
plant
out
there.
We
will
take
those
pictures
and
get
them
into
our
operations
team
for
assessment
and
correction
if
needed,
regardless,
if
there's
a
small
cell
on
there
or
not,
but
certainly
before
we
allow
anyone
else
to
attach.
J
You
know
we
take
a
good
look
at
every
single
one
of
those
poles
to
ensure
you
know
safety
and
soundness
of
that
attachment,
and
then,
lastly,
and
and
chair
you
may
remember,
while
in
your
role
as
chief
of
staff
for
assemblymember
fahey,
you
know
there
was
a
claim-
and
there
was
an
article
in
the
times
union
two
years
ago
about
a
homeowner
up
in
buckingham
pond
area
coming
home
and
finding
this
new
poll.
You
know
when
the
facts
were
collected.
Frankly,
that
really
wasn't
the
story.
J
The
poll
was
placed
by
ex
the
net
verizon
as
a
tenant
on
that
poll.
It
was
a
new
poll,
so
those
are
very
sensitive.
I
mean
I'm
a
homeowner,
you
don't
want
anything
existing
to
maggy's
point.
You
might
not
even
know.
Somebody
came
out
put
a
note
up
on
top
because
the
pole
was
there
and
the
wires
were
there,
but
a
brand
new
pole
in
your
front
yard.
J
Once
we
did
the
investigation,
the
city
was
well
aware.
It
was
permitted,
it
was
staked
out
in
concert
with
the
building
department
and
door
tags
were
placed
on
the
property,
the
properties
nearby,
notifying
them
of
the
work
that
was
about
to
occur.
So
there's
a
dig
not
getting
too
deep
into
it,
but
there's
a
big
safe
process
even
for
setting
aerial
plant
but
pog
was
in
the
ground,
dig
safe.
New
york
was
called
so
there
were
markings
done,
notifications
were
made
and,
and
the
story
really
and
verizon's
position
was
really
lacking.
A
F
You
brought
up.
Can
I
jump
in
real
fast?
That's
a
good
point.
You
bro,
I'm
wondering
in
our
requirements
should
we
have
when
the
equipment's
installed.
There
should
be
some
kind
of
name
tag
at
verizon
that
if
there
is
a
problem,
we
know
right
away
who
to
you
know
contact
to
me.
That
would
be
very
minor
to
put
like
a
name
on
it
and
maybe
even
a
contact
number.
If
there's
a
problem,
I
don't
know
if
you
do
that
in
other
cities
or
not.
J
Yeah,
we
have
there's
there's
examples
and
again
be
sure
to
be
glad
to
share
some
pictures
of
some
of
that
notification
that
we
have
utilized
in
other
markets
that
I
thought
it
was
a
good
idea.
B
Okay,
tom
you're
all
set
right.
I
think
I
saw
alfredo's
hand
up
at
one
point:
go
ahead,
alfredo.
I
Thank
you.
I'm
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
verizon
is
taking
the
position
of
seeing
wireless
and
internet
service
as
a
utility
and
not
as
a
luxury
that
isn't
just
a
necessary
utility
for
our
populations.
I'm
glad
to
hear
verizon
is
taking
that
stand.
If
that's
the
stance
that
that
I'm
hearing
specifically,
if
we're
looking
to
have
you
know,
cooperation
similar
to
what
we
have
for
our
utilities
and
electric
and
kitties.
I
I
agree
with
that.
I
actually
agree
with
that
statement.
I
think
it's
something
that
you
know.
There's
been
some
pushback
from
other
industry
leaders
to
not
see
wireless
or
broadband
ass,
a
utility.
So
your
statements
or
give
me
some
relief
that
verizon's
actually
taking
the
lead
in
this
position
and
change.
Maybe
some
corporate
stance
on
this
I'm
going
to
take
you
back
a
little
bit
on
what
councilman
holly
spoke
about
and
also
what
councilwoman
to
check
inside
his
country
spoke
about
with
att.
I
What
is
a
distrust
from
community
with
this
industry,
and
part
of
it
is
because
you
stated
that
you
know
why
isn't
isn't
in
albany
because
of
governmental
mistakes
of
the
past.
Well,
I
mean,
I
know
this
government.
The
body
has
asked
for
verizon
to
come
before
us
in
the
past
to
try
to
see
how
we
could
work
out
an
agreement
where
we
could
bring
horizon
to
our
neighborhoods.
I
understand
councilman's
holy's
frustration
because
councilman
holy's
neighborhood
bought
his
yodel.
I
So
if
you
go
just
to
black,
you
are
full
access
to
wi-fi
and
your
cable
bill.
Your
internet
bill
drops
by
like
15
to
20
dollars
and
that's
a
reality
of
you
know
having
competition
and
having
having
a
a
a
opportunity
for
both
choice,
and
we
don't
have
that
in
our
city.
We
don't
have
choice.
We
have
we
have
a
one
single
brand
that
we
have
to
go
with,
and
our
prices
for
that
are
significantly
higher.
I
You
know
we're
talking
about
25
difference
if
you're
looking
at
you
know
50
dollars,
there's
65
for
the
same
product.
You
know
that
residents
are
being
forced
to
pay
because
they
live
two
blacks
from
where
verizon
services.
I
Our
residents
would
like
to
have
an
option
and
right
now
we
don't
so
I
I
I
like
to
put
that
on
the
table,
because
I
think
that's
something
that
would
ease
some
of
the
costs
that
our
residents
are
feeling
just
instantly
without
the
additional
support
that
I
do
be
in
support
that
you
spoke
about
the
other
question
I
wanted
to
actually
specifically
had
to
do
with
k-12.
I
I
know
you
spoke
about
your
higher
educational
partnerships.
I
I
I
like
to
get
a
little
bit
more
information
about
what
partnerships
you
be
looking
to
do,
or
you
have
done
specifically
with
our
school
district,
because
a
lot
of
our
young
people
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
have
really
struggled
because
they
didn't
have
the
access
or
the
broad
brands
needed
to
be
competitive
academically.
So
I'd
be
instances
here
what
what
you've
done
and
what
you're
looking
to
do
with
this
partnership.
K
So
the
the
partnership
that
we
have
currently
with
suny
albany
is
actually
managed
through
crown
castle.
It's
it's
very
convoluted
and
I
won't
go
into
it,
but
we
we're
putting-
and
we
have
this
in
in
probably
about
a
dozen
or
so
universities
across
upstate
new
york,
where
we
we
kind
of,
come
and
install
an
enhanced
wireless
system,
that's
specifically
dedicated
for
inside
the
buildings.
K
So
it's
we
have
like
one
location
where
we
put
all
of
our
equipment
and
then
we
run
cables
like
cable,
fiber
and
power
to
a
series
of
antennas
and
remotes
that
are
input
in
utility,
closets
and
then
hallways,
and
it
basically
just
enhances
the
coverage
inside
of
these
buildings.
For
more
of
like
an
academic
partnership
thing,
I
I
mean
we're
not
the
right
people
to
talk
to
about
that,
but
I
can
certainly
reach
out
to
you
outside
of
this
meeting
and
get
you
some
more
information
on
that.
K
If
that's
what
you
would
like
to
see,
but
we
have
partnered
with
universities
to
kind
of
do
test,
bed
types
of
things
where
we
give
them
enhanced
services,
and
then
they
work
with
our
promotions
department
to
kind
of
get
some
equipment
to
test
services
and
we
work
with
them
on
feedback
and
it's
a
whole
separate
group
at
verizon
that
handles
all
that.
But
we
do
have
a
lot
of
partnerships
with
a
lot
of
universities
and
colleges
for
enhanced
services
on
their
campuses
and
suny.
K
I
I
I
look
forward
to
getting
some
more
information
about
your
k-12
initiatives,
because
that's
where
we
really
saw
the
lag
from
our
universities
and
our
highway
institutions.
Yes,
they
had
they
had,
they
had
their
struggles
as
well,
but
I
know
they
also
had
some
resources
on
how
k-12
those
are
the
families
in
our
neighborhoods
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
have
the
resources
as
well.
J
So
so,
on
the
k-12
space
verizon,
there
are
e-rate
programs
but
specific
to
verizon
foundation
and
philanthropic
verizon,
innovative
learning,
schools
there
are
known
in
albany
currently,
but
where
we
do
have
the
network
build
out
dozens
down
in
the
five
boroughs.
Just
two
weeks
ago
in
in
norwalk
connecticut,
we
made
a
major
announcement
with
four
schools
there
and
they
were
this
year's
bills.
We
call
them
horizon
innovative
learning.
They
were
bill's
awardees.
J
So
not
only
do
we
bring
the
network
to
the
schools,
we
then
provide
devices
to
the
teachers
and
to
the
students
and
give
them
connectivity
for
the
life
of
for
the
remainder
of
their
time
in
those
schools.
You
know
recognizing
the
need
there
right
again
back
to
our
white
paper.
So,
okay,
we
built
a
network.
Now
what
so
in
those
schools
they
applied,
they
were
selected
and
they
were
awarded
with
devices
and
the
in
no
cost
network.
J
So
so
you
know,
is
it
every
school
in
every
city?
No,
but
there's
certainly
millions
and
millions
of
dollars.
Verizon
has
donated
to
schools.
They've
got
to
apply,
you
know,
there's
a
grant
process
there.
What
have
you
and
it's
been
extremely
well
received
in
the
markets
where
we
have
awarded
schools.
I
My
last
question:
I
promise
sure
I'd
love
to
get
the
numbers
in
the
capital
district
and
broken
down
by
cities
and
capital
districts,
because
I'm
a
little
greedy.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
my
neighborhoods.
I
want
to
make
sure
my
school
district.
I
want
to
make
sure
you
know.
My
community
is
also
benefiting
from
these
resources.
I
Yes,
in
in
the
city
of
albany
or
in
the
capital
districts,
you
know
albany
counties
connecting
county
wesleyan
county.
You
know
even
salvatore
county.
You
know.
Yes,
I
I
want
specifically
city
albany,
you
know
as
well,
but
a
good
breakdown
of
how
any
funds
were
distributed
distributed
in
the
capital
regions.
H
Well,
actually,
kathy,
I
don't
know
if
your
particular
point
has
been
that
you
raised
has
been
really
addressed
by
verizon
with
regard
I
want.
I
would
like
you
to.
You
know
pose
that,
and
then
I
do
have
two
other
questions.
B
Okay,
so
so
the
point
I
brought
up
with
the
with
singular
wireless
was
that
you.
H
B
B
We
want
to
make
sure
we
understand
you're
a
business,
but
we
care
deeply
about
the
residents
in
this
city
and
we
want
to
make
sure
not
only
our
school
children
in
every
neighborhood,
but
the
adults
in
every
neighborhood
have
access
to
the
internet,
and
this
you
know
we're
concerned
that
these
franchise
agreements
don't
give
us
that
100
percent
assurance.
J
So
because
this
is
a
public
forum,
we
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
disclose
the
build
plans
or
the
map
offline.
If
we
could
meet
with
council
get
some
ndas
in
place.
I
was
able
to
take
a
look
at
the
plan
that
mark
and
maggie
have
put
together
over
the
last
few
months.
I
think
you're
gonna
be
pleasantly
surprised
at
what
that
map
does
entail.
H
Yes
and
I
so
how
quickly
can
we
get
non-disclosure
agreements
in
place
and
have
that
and
get
that
information,
and
I
think
that
that's
a
question
for
brett
and
and
j.r
and
is
I
would
I
I
think
that
there's
an
exception
in
the
open
meetings
law?
For
that
can
we
do
that.
E
Off
the
top
of
my
head,
I
jr,
do
you
remember
recall
if
there's
a
sort
of
a
executive
session
item
for
discussing
trader
proprietary
secrets.
As
far
as
ndas
go,
I
mean
I
have
a
few
nda
samples
I
could
you
know,
put
together
pretty
quickly
and
verizon
or
their
council
may
have
ndas
that
we
get
together
in
pretty
short
order.
I
assume,
but.
A
We
do
have
a
form
of
a
that.
We
can
send
over
first
thing
in
the
morning
for
you
to
review
it's
something
that
we
commonly
enter
into
with
cities
and
discussion
like
this,
and
in
fact
you
know,
I
believe
the
you
know
the
mayor's
office
has
the
the
ability
to
do
that
to
execute
the
an
nda.
H
I
think
you
know
frankly,
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
probably
there
should
be
an
acknowledgement
that
an
nda
is
then
in
place
by
anybody
who's
then
having
access
to
the
information
I'm.
I
know
that
under
the
freedom
information
law
we
can
withhold,
so
information
might
be
able
to
be
shared
with
council
members
under
nda
and
then
there's
a
foil
exception
for
freedom
and
information
law
exception
for
contract
negotiations.
H
If,
if
the
disclosure
would
hamper
contract
negotiations,
but
I'm
having
a
hard
time
coming
up
with
the
executive,
whether
there's
a
contract
exception
off
the
top
of
my
head.
H
So
I
think
bottom
line
is
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
discuss
it,
but
we
could
potentially
have
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
discuss
it
as
a
as
a
council
or
as
a
committee
with
a
quorum
present,
but
non-disclosure
agreements
could
and
acknowledgements
could
be
done
and
then
the
information
shared
and
then
there
could
be
phone
conversations
with
people
on
verizon.
H
H
I,
mr
lawrence,
first
time
I
was
aware
that
5g
was
being
deployed
in
the
city
of
albany,
was
when
I
got
a
text
message
from
a
constituent
who
had
when
he's
sitting
outside
his
front
door
in
a
city
island,
and
he
was
like
what
on
earth
is
this.
H
They
are
not
they,
they,
they
don't
add
to.
You,
know
the
the
attractiveness
of
the
streetscape,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment.
I
understand
that
our
aesthetic
standards
are
trying
to
control
issues.
We,
mr
igo,
has
had
people
in
one
of
our
council
members
in
the
14th
ward,
where
polls
have
suddenly
appeared
in
somebody's
front
yard
and
and
they're
not
happy
about
that.
H
You
know
we
don't
want
it
in
our
parks,
for
example,
without
there
being,
I
think,
specific
agreement
that
there
is
a
real
need
there
for
for
it,
and
that
there's
a
very
you
know
specific
benefit.
H
The
language
regarding
the
fees,
so
the
fees
are
set
by
the
fcc
there's
some
question:
there's
some
question
about
whether
the
fcc
has
actually
set
the
fees
so
that
they're
absolutely
not
negotiable.
That's
my
first
question
on
this
and
then
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
the
language
and
the.
In
the
event,
the
fcc
changes
its
stance.
L
Certainly
so
my
recollection
of
the
fcc
order
was
they
set
a
presumptive
fee
that
is
presumptively
reasonable
and
equates
to
what
is
cost
recovery
for
the
use
of
the
right-of-way,
and
so
the
the
language
and
the
agreement.
Does
I'm
trying
to
scroll
back
up
amongst
the
different
things
on
my
screen
does
have
on
the
bottom
of
page
six
into
the
top
of
seven
that,
if
that
fcc
order
is
subsequently
superseded
and
impacts?
L
What
is
the
presumptively
reasonable
provisions
for
fees
that
that
the
agreement
is
subject
to
renegotiation
on
those
fees,
and
I
was
not
able
to
scroll
through
the
hundred
people.
H
Can
I
can
I
stick
with
point
one
sure
point
one
so
presumptive
reasonable,
so
presumptive
reasonable
from
my
law
school
days
does
not
mean
it
is
hard
and
fast.
E
I
have
I
have
the
fcc
order
pulled
up
here.
If
I
can
jump
in
the
fcc
guidance,
I
should
say
it's
paragraph
79
on
the
guidance
document,
and
it
says
we
presume
that
the
following
fees
would
not
be
prohibited
by
section
253
or
section
2,
section
332,
c7,
a
500
for
non-recurring
fees,
including
a
single
upfront
application
that
includes
up
to
five
small
wireless
facilities
with
an
additional
100
for
each
small
wireless
facility
beyond
five
or
one
thousand
dollars
for
non-recurring
fees.
E
For
a
new
poll,
I.e,
not
a
co-location
intended
to
support
one
or
more
wireless
facilities,
and
then
it
also
says
the
270
dollars
per
year
for
all
recurring
fees.
So
it
says
the
fcc
is
presuming
that
the
following
fees
would
not
be
prohibited.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
councilman
dochet
but,
on
the
other
hand,
going
setting
up
any
fees
outside
of
those
numbers
that
the
fcc
has
proposed.
E
B
Do
we
have
a
sense
of
breath
of
how
much
the
how
much
it
is
costing
the
city
in
order
to
you
know
be
the
administrator
for
all
of
this?
That
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
have.
E
I
don't
have
those
numbers,
as
I
sit
here
today,
maybe
that
would
be
the
probably
have
to
combine
data
from
planning
and
dgs
and
some
other
departments
to
figure
that
out.
But
again
I
mean
I
think
this
is
these:
are
the
numbers
that
essentially
every
municipality
within
the
state
and
and
the
united
states
have
to
or
are
are
likely
going
to
abide
by
and
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
mr
brennan,
if
you
had
anything
you
wanted
to
add
to
that,
I
just
happened
to
have
the
fcc
guidance
pulled
up.
L
I'm
looking
at
at
that
same
section
and
those
are
the
presumptively
reasonable
fees,
and
you
know
it
does
I'm
sure
you'll
you'll
go
in
and
look
at
it
at
your
sounds.
Like
my
children
just
got
home,
I
apologize
that
it
says
that
you
know
if
the.
If
you
want
to
prevail
in
a
section
253
challenge
the
there
has
to
be
a
showing
that
the
fees
charge
a
reasonable
approximation
of
cost.
Those
costs
themselves
are
reasonable
and
non-discriminatory,
and
basically
it's
it's
limited
to
cost
recovery.
L
So
I
do
believe
that
if
there's
a
showing
that
there's
something
above
that
that
would
that
would
be
the
way
to
go
about
it.
H
If
they
were
being
asked
to
to
weigh
in
on
it,
would
then
say
essentially
it
would
be,
then
I
think
not
challengeable
by
a
utility
to
say.
Oh,
these
are
unreasonable
fees,
but
is
there
a
requirement
that
the
fcc
approve
fees
in
all
cases,
or
is
it
only
if
there
is
a
disagreement
between
the
potentially
contracting
parties.
L
Sure
so
I
don't
believe
that
there
is
a
requirement
or
that
the
fcc
is
going
to
weigh
in
on
individual
fees.
I
think
that
that
requirement
speaks
to
if
there
is
a
disagreement
between
a
wireless
company
and
a
municipality
that
then,
and
it
goes
to
federal
court-
that's
the
standard
by
which
the
federal
court
would
undertake
the
analysis.
It's
not
as
if
we
go
to
the
fcc.
Excuse
me
for
one
second,.
H
So
I
did
have
a
follow-up
about
about
the
contractual
language
on
that
and
I'll
wait
for
mr
brandon.
Oh
mr
brennan
you're
back.
I'm.
H
L
H
All
right
so,
but
then
my
separate
question
is:
if
the
fcc
basically
says
a
I
actually,
I
I
think
it
was
saying
gosh
I
gotta
bring
up
the.
L
It
says
that
it
would
be
subject
to
negotiation,
but
I
think
it
would
be
subject
to
negotiation
within
the
the
terms
of
whatever
the
change
in
the
law
would
be.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
could
presume
to
to
to
see
what
the
fcc
may
or
may
not
do
at
one
point
in
time
there
was
the
you
know
going
back
in
in
the
not
too
distant
history.
L
There
was
this
fcc
order
and
it
was
challenged
and
that
challenge
went
to
the
something
like
the
9th
circuit
out
west
and
the
9th
circuit
upheld
the
fcc
order.
So
some
of
the
language
when
we
were
negotiating
these
agreements
was
there
was
some
uncertainty
of
whether
the
fcc
order
would
be
upheld
or
not,
and
it
has
been
upheld.
L
But
then
there's
also
built
into
this
is
the
potential
that
that
fcc
order
may
change
at
some
point
in
the
future.
So,
there's
basically
what
I
would
consider
a
reopener
that
if
there
was
a
change
in
law
or
or
guidance,
this
is
more
than
guidance
of
fcc
orders
that
we
would
be
able
to
reopen
and
it's
subject
to
negotiation,
because
it
wasn't
clear
to
any
of
us
whether
it
would
be
a
presumptive
cap
set
as
it
is
now
or
if
there's
some
other
potential
out
out
there.
H
Essentially,
what
the
fcc
says
is
these
rates?
H
L
I'm
reading
reading
it
again
and
I
was
trying
to
keep
up
with
where
you.
L
L
I
get
you
know,
I'm
I'm
trying
to
follow
along
with
with
your
concern.
I
guess
my
belief
is
that
if
the
language
is
set
up
that
it's
subject
to
negotiation,
it's
protective
of
both
sides.
If
there
is
room,
if
it's
not
just
a
cap,
I
mean
right
now
the
presumptive
rate
is
is
270
a
year.
It
was
up
to
270
a
year,
and
so
that's
those
were
the
terms
that
were
discussed
it's.
I
suppose
it
could
be
up
to
some
other
number
that
would
be
subject
to
negotiation.
L
So
if
there's
some
need
to
adjust
that
language,
as
the
council
looks
at
it,
I
think
we
should
could
certainly
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
if
you
know,
if
there's
a
suggested,
suggested
revision.
E
It
does
say,
if
I
may
add
that
either
party
may,
upon
30
days,
written
notice
require
that
the
fees
required
under
this
section
be
renegotiated
to
conform
with
the
new
law.
So
I
mean
I
think
that
provides
a
degree
of
flexibility
there.
H
I
think
that
I'm
hearing
our
council
and
their
council
basically
saying
that,
under
the
circumstances
that
I'm
suggesting
that
there
would
be
able
to
be
a
renegotiation,
whether
that
renegotiation
is
successful
is
another
matter.
But
thank
you.
B
Okay,
I
guess
maggie
was
there
anything
else
you
were
intending
to
go
over.
K
No,
not
really,
I
just
you
know,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
had
the
powerpoint.
It
does
have
a
lot
of
good
information
on
small
cells,
you
know
and
the
future
of
wireless
trends
and
why
these
small
cells
are
so
important
to
bring
into
communities.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
distributed,
and
I
wanted
to
touch
on
the
aesthetics
of
these
small
cells
that
we're
deploying.
So
no
I
mean
unless
there's
any
specific
questions.
I
think
that
I'm
I'm
set
from
my
end.
B
Okay
and
just
other
council
members,
anybody
else
have
any
questions
or
comments
before
we
wrap
up.
L
B
M
Hey
david,
hey,
verizon,
hey
everybody
else.
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
the
the
fact
that
we're
having
this
conversation
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
guys
to
come
for
coming
to
the
table
and
having
a
conversation
with
the
executive
and
also
the
legislative
body
for
the
city
and
just
hearing
chip
earlier.
I
am
very
optimistic
that
we
are
going
to
address
the
digital
divide
and
it
takes
you
know.
Sometimes
you
know
it
might
seem
like
the
the
needle
is
not
moving,
but
it
is.
M
It
is,
and
I
think
that
these
type
of
conversation
is
needed
to
address
it.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
know
verizon.
You
know.
I
also
want
to
thank
att
too.
You
know
with
the
discussion
that
we're
having
you
know.
I
know
we
have
to
make
a
few
amendments
in
a
few
languages,
but
again,
ultimately
we
want
to
make
sure
that
internet
is
affordable
and
also
reliable.
M
You
know
we're
talking
about
affordability,
but
also
one
thing
that
we
have
been
talking
about
is
make
the
reliability
of
making
sure
that
everyone
in
our
city
have
that
access
spectrum.
Greed
has
made
it
very
clear
that
they
do
not
want
to
make.
You
know,
provide
quality
and
affordable
internet
to
the
residents
of
the
city
of
albany,
and
the
only
way
forward
is
competition,
whether
it's
verizon
att
or
the
city
of
albany
having
our
own
municipal
run
internet.
M
That
is
the
only
way
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
internet
access
and
broadband
access
is
affordable
and
reliable.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
and
for
the
opportunity
to
come
in
front
of
us
and
just
have
this
meaningful
discussions.
I
know
there's
some
tough
questions,
but
again
we
all
represent
our
constituents,
and
these
are
some
of
the
questions
that
they
want
us
to
ask,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
equity
and
how
some
of
these
towers
are
going
to
be
located.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone.
B
Well,
that
was
a
great
wrap-up
bow
wusu.
So
what
we'll
do
is,
I
think,
people
there's
a
lot
of
information
here
and
people
want
to
digest
it.
Committee,
members
and
other
council
members.
If
we
have
any
questions
we'll
reach
out
to
you
and
we'll
invite
you
back,
and
you
know
we're
not
ready
to
make
a.
I
think
we
need
more
time
on
this,
so
we'll
get
back
in
touch
with
you
with.
B
You
know
our
next
meeting
date
on
this
issue,
and
we
thank
all
of
you
for
coming
today
and
judy.
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up
again.
H
I'm
a
little
challenged,
like
I
said
with
my
eyesight
right
now
to
deal
with
the
details
of
it,
but
I
was
realizing
today
when
I
went
to
pull
out
what
brett
sent
to
you
and
me
kathy
because
of
our
prior
discussion
on
this,
with
some
amendments
that
that
was
not
shared
with
committee
members.
So
I
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
I.
Well
maybe
it
was.
I
don't.
B
Well,
let's,
let's
have
that
conversation
in
a
few
minutes
and
we'll
you
know,
move
on
to
the
next
part
of
our
meeting?
Okay,
all
right!
So
again,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
coming!
Thank
you
for
all
the
folks
from
verizon
wireless,
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
for
the
new
meeting
day
right.
J
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
for
the
rest
of
the
council
members.
We
will
get
you
some
follow-up,
that
we
talked
about
we're
going
to
the
nba.
F
J
We'll
check
with
our
attorneys
to
see
if
it's
still
valid
for
the
city
to
include
the
council,
we've
already
shipped
off
the
photos
of
the
poll
in
question.
Councilman
that
jr
just
shared
I've
already
sent
them
off
to
the
ops
team
for
investigation.
J
We'll
take
a
look
and
let's
keep
the
dialogue
open
and,
like
I
said,
verizon's
looking
forward
to
bringing
you
know
our
own
money
investing
into
this
city
and
every
single
constituent
of
yours
will
benefit
greatly
in
doing
so.