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From YouTube: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 5:00PM Planning, Economic Development and Land Use Committee
Description
The Committee reviewed Resolution 5.12.20R and Resolution 6.12.20R. Resolution 5.12.20R reappoint Chris Ellis, Jr. to a term of the Planning Board, which will expire on December 31, 2025. Resolution 6.12.20R reappoint Martin Hull to a term of the Planning Board, which will expire on December 31, 2024. The Committee also reviewed Ordinance 46.122.20. This legislation is necessary to give the USDO consistent numbering and to increase user-friendliness in terms of layout and readability.
A
B
Hey
welcome
everyone
to
the
january
26
2021
meeting
of
the
common
council's
planning
economic
development
land
use
committee
meeting.
B
We
tonight
we'll
be
discussing
ordinance,
46
122
20,
an
ordinance
amending
chapter
375
of
the
usdo
of
dakota
city
of
albany
by
renumbering
such
chapter
and
then
resolution
512
21r
regarding
the
reappointment
of
christopher
ellis
to
the
city
of
albany
planning,
board
and
resolution
6
12
21
r,
a
resolution
regarding
the
reappointment
of
martin
halt
of
the
city
of
albany
planning
board
committee
members
present,
judy
doshay,
joyce
love
and
myself,
kathy
fahey,
other
committee,
other
council
members,
president
richard
conte
and
jenny,
farrell
staff,
john
rafael,
piscardo,
and
michelle
andre
and
planning
department,
staff,
amy
levine
from
corporation
counsel's
office
and
director
of
planning
bread
glass.
B
So
I
I
was
I'd
like
to
begin
with,
I'm
wondering
michelle.
Maybe
we
should
reach
out
to
our
two
other
planning
committee
members
see
if
they're
coming.
I
know
the
time
change
could
be
confusing
everybody.
I
did
reach
out
to
them.
C
B
No,
no,
I
mean
alfredo
and
oh
okay,
oh,
and
I
also
should
mention
former
councilmember
leah
goldby
is
joining
us.
Hi
leah.
B
B
Well
so
we
met
last
week
on
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
resolutions
for
the
reappointments
of
christopher
ellis
and
martin
hall,
and
let's
start
with
christopher
ellis
judy.
I
know
you
were
going
to
reach
out
to
both
of
them
and
I
know
you
had
questions
that
you
didn't
get
answered
last
week,
so
I
had.
D
A
great
informative
conversation
with
chris
ellis
yesterday
I
was
very
pleasant
and
it
was
a
you
know.
Great
exchange
of
you
know
regarding
some
of
my
concerns
and
some
of
his
perspective,
and
I
am
ready
to
move
him
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation.
B
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second
on
that
motion?
All
right,
joyce
is
a
second
and
any
discussion.
B
Okay,
all
in
favor
all
right,
I
and
we'll
move
that
one
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation
and
and
now
we'll
resolution
6
12,
21
r,
and
that
concerns
the
reappointment
of
martin
hall
to
the
albany
planning
board
and
judy
you
had.
You
were
going
to
reach
out
to
him
as
well.
D
Yeah
and
I
and
I
did-
and
it
turned
out
that
the
number
I
was
calling
was
an
old
home
phone
number,
and
I
figured
that
out
today,
and
so
I
have
not
been
able
to
speak
with
him.
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
I
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect
for
his
his
background.
D
His
knowledge
and
what
I
wanted
to
talk
to
him
about-
and
I
still
want
to
talk
to
him
about-
is
my
frustration
with
some
of
the
lack
of
dialogue
that
goes
on
regarding
specific
issues
that
are
raised
by
members
of
the
public
regarding
applications
and
the
lack
of
dialogue
that
goes
on
on
the
planning
board
in
the
lack
of
information
provided
in
in
the
decisions.
D
B
Okay,
alfredo
has
come
alfredo
we're
discussing
alfredo
ballerin
who's,
a
committee
member
alfredo
we
are
discussing.
We
have
moved
forward
christopher
ellis's
reappointment
with
a
positive
recommendation.
B
E
No
I'm
glad
we
moved
for
the
chris
chris's
name
for
it.
I
apologize.
I
I
wasn't
going
to
go
on
on
it
snowing
out.
Then
I
wasn't
going
to
be
driving
home
with
my
zoom
on
as
I've
done
in
the
past.
I
just
want
to
be
safe
and
sorry.
So
I
apologize
a
few
minutes
late,
I'm
okay
with
judy's
recommendation
as
well.
E
B
Okay,
so
one
of
one
of
the
things
I
I
haven't
done
is
had
any
public
comment,
so
I
lea
you're
here
to
give
public
comment.
I
know
we've
gotten
some
written
comments
as
well
and
I
hope
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
review
those.
B
F
Hi,
thank
you
good
to
see
everyone.
I
you
know
called
into
the
or
requested
to
attend
this
zoom,
to
express
my
support
for
both
christopher
ellis
and
martin
hall
to
continue
serving
on
the
planning
board.
F
I
previously
served
on
the
common
council's
planning
committee
and
in
fact
so
when
both
of
them
were
originally
appointed,
I
took
part
in
the
interview
process
and
you
know
they
were
well.
Martin,
of
course,
is
has
came
with
a
tremendous
amount
of
experience
because
of
his
planning
background.
F
Mr
ellis,
I
didn't
know
much
about,
but
I
have
since
as
both
when
I
was
on
the
council
when
they
were
serving
and
also
as
an
active
community
member.
I
have
attended
planning,
board
meetings
and
I've
been
very
impressed
by
both
of
them
by
the
questions
that
they
ask
the
level
of
engagement
that
they
each
have
and
the
demeanor
in
which
they
conduct
themselves.
When
often
they
are
being
abused
by
members
of
the
public,
which
is
unfortunate.
F
F
It's
part
of
that
taking
criticism
is,
you
know,
part
of
what
happens
when
you're
in
public
life-
and
you
know-
and
I
I
feel
especially
bad
for
the
folks
who
serve
on
these
committees,
who
are
you
know,
working
hard
putting
in
the
work
putting
in
the
efforts-
and
you
know,
then
people
get
very
angry
when
things
don't
go
the
way
that
that
they
want
them
to.
So
I'm
just
saying
that
I
do
strongly
support
both
of
them.
F
In
terms
of
mr
hall,
I
did
watch
the
last
planning
committee
meeting,
the
interviews
of
them
and
one
thing
that
I
wrote
down
from
what
he
said
is
that
everybody
wants
to
live
in
albany
now,
and
so
that
is
kind
of
his
takeaway
from
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
as
members
of
the
planning
board
after
the
usdo
passed,
they.
F
You
know
albany
needs
to
be
competitive,
other
municipalities
were
ahead
of
us
and
we
are
trying
to
catch
up
in
terms
of
attracting
new
residents
and
it's
a
great
thing
that
everybody
wants
to
live
in
albany
now,
and
I
think
we
have
both
of
these
members
of
the
planning
board
who
have
given
their
time
to
thank
for
that.
F
This
is
the
mayor's
appointment,
of
course,
and
if
the
council
agrees
with
the
appointment,
it's
your
approval
process,
which
I
certainly
respect,
and
you
know
I
do
hope
that
that
the
committee
that
the
council
looks
to
the
committee
that
the
council
looks
towards
for
how
to
go
on
things
I
mean
you
did
a
very
thorough
interview
of
both
members,
more
thorough
than
I've
ever
seen
so
anyway.
I
just,
I
think
that
they
both
deserve
a
positive
recommendation.
G
Mr
hall
is
this:
is
second
time
he's
been.
This
is
the
second
term.
Yes,
yes,
and
how
many?
How
many
years
was
that
first
term,
how
many
years
have
you
served
so
far.
I
G
B
G
Okay,
I
agree
with
leah
I
like
to
move
him
out
with
a
favorable
recommendation.
B
Okay,
we
have
a,
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor,
so
judy
and
you
had
some
comments.
D
B
D
D
That
does
not
mean
that
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for.
Mr
hall
again,
I
have
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
him.
He
happens
to
be
a
constituent
of
mine.
He
is
a
gentleman,
but
it
struck
me
as
though
that
this
is
inappropriate
time
for
me
to
have
that
kind
of
conversation
with
him.
D
So
before
I
reach
any
conclusions,
I
do
want
to
have
you
follow
up
on
the
questions
that
I
had
intended
to
ask,
and
I
do
think
by
the
way,
also
that
members
of
the
public
really
are
entitled
to
more
of
an
explanation
regarding
some
of
the
decisions
that
are
made
when
they
appear
to
be
inconsistent
with
the
usda.
D
So
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
and
that's
why
I
will
not
be
voting
to
move
him
out
with
a
positive
recommendation
at
this
time.
That
doesn't
mean
that
I
won't
necessarily
be
voting
for
him
once
I
have
a
conversation
with
him.
B
Okay,
thanks
judy,
I
want
to
turn
to
tom.
Did
you
I
know
you
you
just
got
here?
We
did
vote
christopher
ellis
out
with
a
positive
recommendation.
Just
so
you
know,
and
now
we're
discussing
the
reappointment
of
martin
hull,
and
I
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
say
anything
that
you'd
like
to
say.
C
No,
I
was
prove
chris,
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
the
first.
B
Actually,
actually,
tom,
let
me
make
one
more
point
sure,
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
move
martin
hull
with
no
recommendation
to
the
full
council.
D
B
C
Gonna
support
both
of
them
with
a
positive.
So
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
first
one,
but
apparently
it
got
out.
So
that's
good.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Well
then,
in
that
case
I
should
point
out
that
I
I
do.
I
would
like
to
move
him
to
the
full
council
for
a
vote
with
a
positive
recommendation.
I
do
think
you
know
from
all
that
I've
seen
that
he's
he's
done
a.
B
As
a
planning
board
member-
and
he
certainly
qualified
as
a
you
know,
professional
planner
and
I
do
think
that
they
take
a
lot
in-
have
to
take
a
lot
into
consideration
when
they're
making
some
of
these
decisions-
and
I
know
you
know-
there's
going
to
be
decisions
that
people
don't
agree
with,
but
on
the
balance,
I
I
feel
like
he's
a
member
who
has
done
what
we
expect
of
a
planning
board
member
and
takes
the
the
job
very
seriously.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Joyce.
You
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Then
you
want
to
put
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Please
you've
done
mute.
G
Okay,
I
moved
mr
hall
out
of
committee
with
a
positive
recommendation.
B
Okay,
second,
second,
second
by
council
member
howie,
all
right
any
additional
discussion
alfredo.
I
apologize.
E
I
supported
judy's
motion
to
move
forward
with
no
recommendation.
I
I
don't
think
there
would
be
any
harm
done
to
to
candidate
because
he
would
still
be
moving
forward
to
the
next
common
council
meeting
where
individuals
hadn't
would
have
had
an
opportunity
to
vote
up
and
down
one
way
or
the
other.
I
think
it's
important
that
members
will
make
these
decisions
get
the
answers
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
So
I
will
not
be
supporting
a
positive
recommendation.
B
Okay,
thank
you
alfredo
all
right
we're
going
to
take
a
unless
there's
any
other
comments.
We're
going
to
take
a
vote
on
the
motion,
all
in
favor,
of
moving
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation
and
all
against.
B
And
any
one
who
wishes
to
abstain?
B
B
Okay,
now
we're
gonna
move
forward
to
the
ordinance
46
122
20,
concerning
renumbering
of
the
usdo
and
last
week
we
met,
and
I
thought
we
had
a
very
productive
discussion
on
how
we
were
going
to
move
forward.
With
this.
We
tried
to
deviate
up
a
little
bit
and
I
know
that
judy
you
sent
quite
a
few
issues
that
you
saw
on
to
the
whole
committee,
and
I
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
article
four,
but
I'm
not
done
it's.
B
It
is
really
arduous
to
go
through
this
document,
and
I
I
found
myself
I'll
just
speak
for
myself.
First,
you
know
I
had
the
three
documents,
so
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
that
that
whole
you
know,
tables
weren't,
missed
and
all
that
the
first
time
I
went
through
and
and
looking
for
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
to
actually
sit
down
and
go
through
the
clean
copy
you
should.
You
know
you
should
be
isolated
up
in
the
adirondacks
or
something
and
the
only
person
in
the
room
with
no
television
or
whatever.
B
So
I
I
don't
know
what
the
rest
of
you
were
thinking,
but
I
brandon,
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
got
a
copy
of
the
judy's
and
I
had
maybe
just.
B
B
Yeah
yeah.
Actually,
if
you
shall,
we
start
with
the
things
that
are
brought
up
unless
anybody
else
has
any
thoughts.
H
I
I
mean
I
can
speak,
you
know
pretty
directly
to
just
judy's
comments.
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
go
through
them
and
I
thank
her
for
her
time
put
into
to
researching
those
and
and
really
the
only
one-
and
I
spoke
with
her
there's
zephany
and
the
only
one
that
I
had
a
question
on
was
the
question
with
respect
to
the
fees
being
added
in,
and
I
think
you
know
we
did
agree
upon
that
we
may
have
been.
She
may
have
been
referencing.
H
H
That
the
fees
were
not
added,
you
know
that
the
they're.
H
The
the
fees
we're
putting
forward
are
consistent
with
what
was
in
the
original
adopted
document,
and
if
anybody
wants
that,
I
do
have
it
it's
the
the
time
stamp
date
on
it
is:
may
11
2017
11
42
a.m.
I
believe
so
consistent
right
around
the
adoption,
and
I
did
want
to
say
well,
there
were
a
few
in
there
where
a
few
comments
that
I
think
were
left
unresolved.
So
I'll
leave
that
to
you
know,
to
judy
to
bring
those
up.
H
I
do
have
opinions
on
those,
but
again
thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you
know.
The
members
of
the
committee
have
done.
It's
taken
some
burden
off
of
our
office
and
trying
to
get
this
done
so.
B
Okay,
did
anyone
else
make
any
headway,
or
did
you
want
to
bring
up
any
issues
that
you
found
as
you
were,
going
through
the
document
alfredo.
E
I
did
the
previous
week
in
goat
food,
so
I'm
thank
you
kathy
for
taking
off
a
little
bit
of
the
pressure
I
did
get
through
35
of
the
43
pages
of
chapter
3,
which
was
what
I
was
assigned
to
go
over
of
those
pages
I
found
minor
issues
were
seem
similar
to
what
we
spoke
about
last
week,
where
the
warning
is
crossed
out
on
one
section,
but
it's
in
another
section,
yeah
or
you
know
the
tables
on
that
or
lines
where
you
have
one
one
part
of
the
table
on
one
page,
another
part
of
the
table,
another
page
and
another
part
of
the
table
on
another
page.
E
So
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
read.
You
know,
but
that
was
it
I
I
so
between
the
first
few
dose,
I
didn't
find
any
major
differences
between
the
final
document
and
the
proposed
document.
My
question
about
the
question
that
I
asked
to
last
time
about
the
differences
in
a
different
section
of
that.
Wasn't
wasn't
that
it
was
here,
but
it
wasn't
here,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
had
an
opportunity
to
look
that
up
red.
If
you
remember
what
I'm
talking
about,
I
think
it
was.
This
is.
H
The
setback
300
versus
200
feet,
yes,
yeah.
I
think
judy
called
that
out
in
her
document
as
well,
and
I
believe
the
correct
number
is
what
was
the
correct
number.
I
was
going
to
say
200,
but
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
reference
that.
H
H
B
Can
you
alfred
you
want
to
tell
us
what
page
it's
on
so
we
can
look.
H
Alfredo,
I
I
think,
I'm
going
to
correct
myself
there
and
say
that
the
300
was
an
error
that
they
both
state
200
in
the
original
document.
D
Yeah,
I
don't
recall
seeing
a
for
that
one
seeing
a
conflict
in
the
in
in
the
in
the
original
document,
but
for
some
reason
it
was
changed.
H
E
So,
on
page
chapter,
2,
page
39,
that's
in
the
red
line
version.
H
H
Correct
so
I'm
looking
at
the
the
original
adopted
version
of
the
usdo
and
in
section
f
in
the
table,
yeah,
it
states
r
within
100,
feet
of
property,
of
a
property
line
and
r1l
or
r1m
zoned
lot
on
portions
lots
more
than
200
feet
in
depth.
Three
stories.
H
E
H
D
Kathy,
so
you
know
I
I
did
this
complete
somewhat
lengthy
memo
partially,
because
I
thought
it
would
be
helpful
as
we
move
this
to
you
as
we
do
our
own
review
and
and
as
we
move
it
to
the
full
common
council,
a
review,
and
so
as
as
you're
asking
that
question,
I
guess
the
you
know
we
have
to
do
article
4.
Yet
yes,
but
the
question
is
and-
and
part
of
this
is
a
question
for
brad.
What
are
what
are
the
most
helpful
next
steps
for
us
to
be
doing?
D
D
H
Yeah,
I
think
there
are
two
options
here.
We
can
certainly
provide
a
list
of
changes
to
gen
code
and
see
what
their
response
is.
I
think
they're
within
the
realm
of
something
that
we
can
work
with
them
on.
There's
also,
you
know
being
that
there's
not
an
overwhelming
amount,
although
some
of
the
new
ordinance
information
that
needs
to
be
incorporated
is
a
little
bit
detailed,
you
know
I
have
been
playing
around
with
editing.
H
The
pdf
document
seems
to
be
an
option
to
to
move
forward
on
some
of
those,
so
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
proceed
on
both
tracks.
I
think
the
question
that's
outstanding
in
my
mind,
is:
are
we
coming
back
for
another
committee
meeting
when
the
document
has
been
edited
and
finalized,
or
is
this
coming
out
with
the
recommendation
of
a
list
of
items
that
we're
being
instructed
to
change?
And
if
so,
you
know,
do
we
have
that
list
of
items
completed
at
this
point.
B
C
Unfortunately,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
this
weekend.
I
will
I
I
thought
we
had
another
couple
of
weeks
before
we're
gonna
meet
again
on
it.
B
Okay,
so
and
judy,
are
you
done
with
your?
B
D
D
D
It
is
look
at
what
is,
I
want
to
say,
absolutely
necessary
to
clear
up,
inconsistencies
or
citation
errors,
or
rather
than
tinkering
so
much
with
the
language,
to
obtain
that
kind
of
clarity,
because
sometimes
when
you're
obtaining
that
kind
of
clarity,
you
are
then
changing
the
meaning-
and
I
think
at
this
point
that
overall
is
not
our
goal
unless
there's
some
sort
of
real
inconsistency
there.
So
I
do
intend
to
do
a
little
bit
more
review
bottom
line.
D
Is
I
intend
to
do
a
little
bit
more
review
of
article
four,
but
as
far
as
one
through
three
and
five
six
and
seven,
what
you
got
last
night
from
me
in
this
14-page
document
is
all
I
intend
to
do
on
it,
except
for
I
have
that
question
about
what
is
helpful,
most
helpful
to
staff
and
gen
code
in
terms
of
getting
this
adopted,
and
I
want
to.
D
I
want
to
call
in
rich
conte
here
on
this
because,
because
I
think
in
terms
of
the
process-
and
you
know
in
terms
of
as
somebody
who's
not
on
the
committee
who
has
been
very
in
you
know,
who
has
had
a
certain
amount
of
frustration
with
the
code
and
the
way
it
was
you
know,
and
how
do
we
you
know
is-
is
the
document
that
I
provided
the
appropriate
mechanism,
or
should
we
actually
get
the
changes
in
place
to
then
make
sure
that
it's
all
proofed
and
is
consistent
before
we
move
it
on
to
the
full
council?
D
I
I
think
you'd
need
to
have
the
revised
document
with,
if
you're
going
to
do
like
a
repeal
and
replace,
then
the
you
need
to
revise
document.
That's
a
clean,
revised
clean
copy
with
all
the
revisions
you
want
to
make.
Okay.
I
What
I
think
jr
had
some
follow-up
on.
Oh.
A
Yeah,
no,
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
I
know
we're
going
through
the
clean
copy
and
I'm
noticing
in
just
article
four
myself,
that
there
are
some
things
that
are
different
from
what's
been
adopted
and
what's
not
that
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
this
still
has
to
go
before
the
county
planning
board,
because
it
does
make
some
some
changes.
A
A
Yes,
we
need
a
public
hearing
and
we
have
to
wait
till
county
planning
board.
Well,
once
I
submit
it
30
days
after
we
wait
for
a
decision
and
then
we
can
vote
on
it.
But
it's
we
can't
vote
until
county
gets
back
to
us.
B
And
we're
talking
about
the
technical
amendments
here,
the
ordinance
yes
yep.
So
does
it
make
sense,
then,
for
us
to
continue
going
through
the
document,
the
areas
that
have
haven't
finished
and
then
we
can
send
the
information
to
to
bread
in
advance
of
our
next
meeting
and
then
brad.
If
can
you
incorporate
those
changes
as
best
you
can
into
the
document
and
then
we'll
have
that.
H
Yeah,
like
I
said,
I'll
proceed
on
both
tracks,
both
working
with
the
pdf
document
to
edit
it
in-house,
and
I
will
communicate
with
general
code.
I
didn't.
I
don't
want
the
general
code
process
to
hold
this
up
again.
It's
not
an
overwhelming
amount
of
changes,
but
you
know
reach
out
right
away.
H
So
I
can
keep
you
all
appraised
to
that.
There
were
a
few
comments
in
in
judy's
memo
where
it
was
left
open-ended
as
to
which
direction
the
council
should
go.
So
we
should
probably
talk
about
a
methodology
for
answering
those
questions
to
guide
the
staff
or
gen
code
in
which
which
changes
they're
making
with
respect
to
those
items.
D
Them
while
you're,
while
you're
looking
for
them
brad
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
about
as
you're
going
through
and
making
amendments
you're
only
going
to
be
making
amendments
that
we
are
agreeing
to
in
this
process.
H
H
Unless
you're,
I
mean
I'm
basically
going
from
your
document
at
this
point,
and
I
think
you
caught
the
instance
that
alfredo
pointed
out
to
the
extent
anything
else
comes
up,
I
mean
at
some
point.
We
do
need
to
have
a
hard
stop,
because
I
know,
for
instance,
the
county
planning
board.
H
B
Well,
let's
see
so
is
it
reasonable
to
make?
Have
people
get
any
anything
in
addition
to
you
by
early
next
week,
and
should
we
set
up
try
to
set
up
a
meeting
for
the
following
week?
That
would
be
the
second
week
in
february,
or
is
that
not
is
that
I.
H
B
H
C
Yeah,
if
we
make
changes,
does
that
then
have
to
go
back
to
the
county
board
say
they
look
at
it
and
you
know
it
gets
put
back
and
then
we
find
something
and
we
we
make
several
changes.
Does
that
need
then
to
go
back
to
the
county
again.
A
H
We're
trying
to
start
the
larger
code
review
in
march
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
wanted
to
have
a
online
accessible,
codified
document.
That's
consistent
that
everyone
could
access
for
the
purpose
of
doing
that
review.
We
can
certainly
you
know
we
do
have
a
committee
date
set
up.
I
think
for
the
second
to
go
over
the
data
and
statistics
related
to
the
first
several
years
of
administering
the
code.
So
again
you
know
that's.
H
C
What's
the
long-range
problems
like
say,
say
you
guys
didn't
get
to
work
on
it
till
april?
What's
you
know,
what's
the
deadline
that
we're
up.
E
Number
one-
I
guess
my
I
guess
I
understand.
What's
with
you
know
the
goal
tom
is
to
try
to
get
the
one
that
we
really
want
to
get
our
hands
on
as
soon
as
possible,
but
we
can
actually
go
in
there
and
start.
You
know
making
some
some
some
sustainable
changes.
You
know.
So
my
concern
is
my
question.
It
shouldn't
be
a
concern
I
shouldn't
say
the
word
concern.
Maybe
I
say
that
word
too
much.
E
My
question
is:
while
we're
waiting
for
the
county
to
move
forward
and
approve
any
changes
that
we
make
on
on
this,
why
isn't
it
not
possible
to
then
get
a
new
version
of
this
started?
Working
on
our
end,
that's.
H
That's
what
I
was
thinking,
I
think
you
can
it
just
defeats
the
purpose
of
what
we're
doing
right
now.
I
think
we
were
doing
the
copyeditory
numbering
first
so
that
we're
all
referencing
a
consistent
document,
that's
online
accessible.
That's
why
we
split
this
out
separately
from
you
know.
Whatever
I
mean.
E
I'm
happy
to
go
about
it,
but
my
question
my
question:
brad
is:
if
we
have
all
the
numbers
renumbered
and
we
have
it
all
done
and
approved
here,
you
know,
and
it's
february
15th
and
doesn't
get
to
go
to
the
county
until
march.
You
know
why
can't
we
put
those
numbers
in
this
version
so
that
you
know
we
can
start
reviewing
it,
even
though
we
still
have
to
approve
this
in
march,
we
can
start
working
on
this
in
march
as
well.
Does
that
make
any
sense?
That's.
A
H
E
C
E
And
I'm
okay,
starting
all
over
again
on
on
this,
because
I
I
I've
got
to
say
this
process
has
made
it
so
I
I
I
I've
gone
through
more
of
this
than
I
did
when
I
originally
got
elected
150
pages
of
this
when
I
first
got
on
the
council
and
I've
gone
through
roughly
250
at
this
point,
but
I
understand
it
a
lot
better
today
than
I
did
back,
then
you
know
because
of
just
seeing
you
know
the
process
unfold,
so
I
mean
I'm
okay,
I
mean
my.
E
I
guess
my
I
want
to
get
this.
I
want
to
get
this,
so
you
know
I
don't
want
this
to
hold
up
this.
B
Okay,
so
brad,
you
were
mentioning,
you
know
putting
together
the
the
list
of
items
that
we're
going
to
try
to
change
and
we
may
be
adding
to
that
list.
Can
we
set
up
a
meeting?
We
can
try
to
set
up
one
more
meeting
next
week,
but
you
were
you
were
suggesting
something
else.
I
think
weren't
you.
H
D
Some
of
them
might
be
I'm
going
through
my
memo
and
I
have
identified
something
on
page
3
of
my
memo
that
relates
to
the
development
standards,
dimensional
standard,
summary
tables,
and
I
I
noted
that
this
is
something
where
it
really
is
kind
of
up
to
the
council
to
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
there
was
an
inconsistency
between
20
feet,
setback
or
10
feet.
D
Brad
is
proposed,
moving
from
a
20
foot,
minimum
front
setback
for
rv
districts
to
a
10
foot
setback,
and
I
think
basically
you
could
go
either
way
on
that
one
and
I'm
basically
fine
with
him
doing
this,
making
the
change
so
that
they're
both
10
feet,
as
opposed
to
both
of
them
being
20
feet,
and
that's
because
by
setting
a
minimum
setback
of
10
feet,
developers
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility,
and
this
is
something
that,
as
the
plan
is
rolled
out,
then,
if
a
further
setback
is
desirable,
then
that
can
be
discussed
with
the
developers.
D
D
Right
on
page
four.
D
All
right,
on
page
four,
I
s.
I
want
to
note
that
for
appeals.
D
I
have
recommended
some
more
significant
language
that
might
be
anticipated,
including
changing
the
heading
appeal
decisions
of
the
chief
planning
official
or
the
chief
building
official
I've
added
in
the
chief
building
official
and
I've
added
in
references
to
appeals
to
the
hrc
or
the
planning
board
is
maybe
appropriate
there.
So
that
goes
a
little
bit
beyond
technical
changes.
D
On
the
one
hand,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
that
they
are
appropriate
clarifications
to
be
made
at
this
point,
because
people
should
know
that
you
can
appeal
a
decision
of
the
chief
building
official
and
in
what
way
you
can
do
that
is
supposed
to
go
into
an
article,
78
and
there's
actually
language
contained
within
that
subsection.
D
That
mentions
that,
but
because
it's
not
part
of
the
heading,
I
think
it
should
be
part
of
the
heading,
and
I
think
that
there
should
be
this
other
additional
clarification
that
the
the
hrc
and
planning
board
also
serve
in
that
capacity.
D
E
B
As
well,
can
you
tell
us
what
that
is
judy.
D
B
Appeals,
oh
yes,
I
see
where
you're
referring
to
chief
building
official
in
the
down
in
the
text
and
see
so
why
not
put
it
up
at
the
heading.
D
D
We
are
now
in
the
definitions,
article
article
six
on
page
25
of
article
six,
the
prince
the
definition
for
principal
use.
D
Now
this
is
a
substantive
change
that
was
being
made
in
this
definition.
The
last
sentence
that
reads
a
lot
or
building
may
have
only
one
principal
use
was
dropped
from
this
particular
definition.
D
And
while
I
fully
understand
that,
because
it's
kind
of
silly
because
we
have
mixed
uses-
that
almost
by
definition
have
more
than
one
principal
use
for
many
of
the
lots
there
are
times
when
we
may
want
to
limit
the
a
lot
or
building
to
one
principal
use,
specifically
in
some
of
the
residential
areas,
and
and
this
change
would
not
there's
no
place
where
the
this
particular
requirement
then
is
put
in
other
provisions
of
the
usdo.
H
I
I
agree
we'll
hold
off
until
we
can
have
further
discussion
and
clarification.
My
opinion.
G
D
D
And
what
I'll
do
is
I
will.
I
will
move
that
to
my
my
other
little
handy
dandy
list
at
the
end
of
this
memo
for
things
that
we
might
want
to
revisit.
Okay.
So
the
next
thing
that
I
have
is
was
about
the
zoning
related
fees,
and
I
do
want
to
state
that
we
should
leave
the
clean
copy
edit.
D
I
just
don't
have
any
paper
trail
related
to
that,
but
brad
says
that
his
copy
of
the
document
of
the
complete
final
usdo
produced
on
may
15
has
those
fees
in
it,
and
that
is
good
enough
for
me
that
he
actually
has
a
document
date
that
where
it
has
not
been
amended
where
I'm
relying
on
things
that
are
online
for
subsequent
usdo.
So
I
want
so
we're
keeping
that
in
is
my
recommendation.
D
Unless
anybody
has
any
other
issues,
okay,
I
need
to
watch
the
time
because
my
husband
needs
to
use
my
ipad
for
zoom
at
6
30.
D
I
noted
that
a
table
had
been
removed
because
there
were
two
tables
that
were.
D
And
I
think
our
choice
is
either
to
let
that
be,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
substance
to
that,
but
then
that
would
result
in
an
inconsistency
where,
for
mufm
we
have
no
listing
of
the
standards
and
but
for
every
other
use
we
do
list
all
the
standards.
H
That
might
be
a
challenge
from
a
formatting
perspective,
and
that
might
be
something
we
could
tackle
in
the
the
larger
edit.
So
you
know
I
don't
know
if
we
can
we're
happy
to
add
it
back
in,
but
if
I
run
into
challenges,
I
don't
want
that
to
hold
us
up,
so
you
know
I
would
offer
either
option.
D
No,
that's
good
thanks
for
bringing
that
to
our
attention.
I
I
I
just
didn't
know
what
was
intended
by
this.
So
it's
it.
It
essentially.
D
D
D
H
H
Yeah
we'll
go
with
the
with
within
10
days
of
the
identification
of
such
deficiencies,
all
right.
C
D
H
Okay
and
then
there
there
was
one
more
that
I
saw
when
you're
speaking
to
the
tree
and
vegetation
permit
the
intro
language
that
requires
compliance
with
the
provisions
of
375
504
has
been
deleted.
I
would
suggest
for
the
ease
of
resolving
the
issue.
We
just
add
that
intro
language
back
in
and
when
we're
doing
the
larger
changes.
If
we
want
to
remove
that
intro
passage
for
all
of
the
subsections.
In
that
article
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
because,
like
you
said
it's,
it's
probably
not
necessary.
H
D
H
H
D
Review,
I
just
want
to
clarify
kathy
yes,
so
you
had
suggested
we
hold
off
on
making
those
kind
of
decisions,
and
we
have
made
every
decision
that
brad
was
suggesting
that
we
would
need
to
make
okay
with
regard
to
issues
that
remained
in
my
memo,
I
want
to
note
for
everybody's
benefit
again
that
at
the
end
of
this
I
was
while
I
was
going
through
and
going
through
all
the
the
the
details.
D
I
did
notice
a
number
of
things
that
were
worthy
of
looking
at
and
potentially
cleaning
up,
some
of
which
are
more
minor,
but
none
of
them,
in
my
opinion,
reached
the
level
of
being
near
technical
or
corrections
or
corrections
of
inconsistency.
So
I
left
them
as
potentially
for
us
to
deal
with
later.
So
when
you're,
looking
at
that
last
section
that
starts
on
page
11,
that's
all
stuff
that
we
can
also
wait
for.
D
So
I
think
at
this
point,
what
we're
saying
is
what
we
need
to
do
is
all
we
need
to
do
is
go
through.
I
think
it's
90
something
pages
of
article
4
and
raise
any
issues
that
we
have
with
regard
to.
D
Maybe
there's
been
a
substantive
change
that
we
just
need
to
alert
people
to,
or
we
don't
want
to
make
at
this
point,
or
maybe
there
are
some
additional
typographical
errors
or
grammatical
or
technical
changes
that
need
to
be
made.
B
I
think
alfredo
needed
to
go
through
a
couple
more
parts
of
one
of
his
sections
is
that
right,
alfredo.
E
Yeah,
I've
got
seven
pages
left
on
chapter
three,
okay,
so
I
have
to
review
and
and
and
then
go
into
chapter
four.
B
Okay,
well,
I
let
me
ask,
maybe
we
could
just
really
quickly
look
at
article
four
on
375
colon.
B
Triple
I
there
and
then
c
under
that
I
don't
know
if
folks
are.
B
And
under
contextual
front
yards
three
eyes
and
letter
c
capital
c.
B
I
didn't
it's
confusing
to
me.
B
It
says
we'll
match
the
front.
Setback
shall
match
that
of
the
adjacent
structure.
B
H
Yeah,
I
don't
know
that
I
have
an
answer
for
that.
One
tonight.
B
H
H
B
C
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
with
the
changes
like
to
the
legislation.
Will
that
get
put
in
to
the
copy
that
we're
gonna
send
off
to
the
county?
Like
you
know
the
stuff,
with
the
blood
plasma,
the
the
appeals
process,
all
that
wording
get
put
into
the
into
the
version
that's
going
to
be
sent
up.
H
C
General
is
the
company
that
came
up
with
the
revised
version?
Is
that
correct.
H
D
I
just
want
to
know
tom
that
my
14-page
memo
contains
every
one
of
the
inserts
to
have
it
comply
with
your
ordinance
for
blood
plasma.
I
did
most
of
that,
except
for
the
insertion
of
the
actual
standards
in
the
use,
special
use
thing,
and
I
just
referred
to
the
legislation
because
I
ran
out
of
time.
C
D
C
C
C
B
Okay,
michelle
is
suggesting
that
we
add
this
another
meeting
on
the
ordinance
this
ordinance
on
the
february
3rd
agenda.
How
does
that
work
for
everyone?
I
mean
we're
going
to
be
meeting
anyway.
B
D
H
Well,
I
mean
I
don't
know
that
it
necessarily
has
to
be
out
of
committee
to
be
sent
to
the
county,
but
ideally
it
would
be,
but
you
know
I
think,
if
we're
it
depends
if
we're
going
to
want,
if
you,
if
the
council
wants
additional
changes
beyond
what
we
discussed
tonight.
H
A
C
A
H
So
I
mean
the
the
february
third
day
that
would
be
to
go
through
the
additional
sections
or
content.
I
think.
B
B
A
G
A
B
D
D
Substantive
changes
in
the
content,
you
know
otherwise,
and
I
don't
know
why
we
would
assume
that
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
as
we
go
through
another
third
of
the
document
I
mean
that's
quite
a
bit.
Yeah.
D
Yeah
and
I
gotta
say
you
know,
I
just
started
taking
a
look
at
the
sign
thing
and
I
am
picking
up
on.
You
know
a
few
other
changes,
but
I
you
know
I
spend
a
half
an
hour
as
opposed
to
hours
on
it
at
this
point.
So.
B
B
It
sounds
like
we'll
we're
gonna
have
to
wait
until
the
march
plan
county
planning
board
meeting
with
brad
until
we.
D
Is
that
a
decision
that
we
need
to
make
now
or
is,
can
we
give
it
a
go?
Brad
can
make
the
changes
that
are
in
my
memo
that
we
have
discussed,
and
hopefully
you
can
do
that
before
february.
Third,
which
leaves
you
know
just
a
third
as
many
arguably
a
third
as
many
additional
changes,
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that.
Make
those
decisions
by
february
3rd.
If
we
buckle
down.
H
If,
if
I'm
able
to
make
the
changes
effectively
in
the
document,
I
think
that
is
doable
if
we
need
to
send
that
to
general
code
and
we're
not
meeting
to
discuss
again
until
february
3rd.
I
have,
I
highly
doubt
they're
going
to
be
able
to
send
it
back
by
february,
8th
so,
and
I
I
should
know
soon,
whether
or
not
I
can
do
that
again,
I'm
just
concerned
with
the
tables
and
things
of
that
nature.
I
think
the
text
edits
should
not
be
a
problem.
B
I
mean
so
it
sounds
like
you're,
saying
brad.
If
we
wait
till
february
I'm
a
little
confused
if
we
wait
till
february
3rd
to
make
those
final
changes,
then
it'll
be
too
late.
B
B
E
I'm
going
to
say:
oh,
I
don't
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
believe
that
we
can't
start
working
on
this
on
march
1st,
just
because
we're
waiting
for
the
county
to
approve
this
on
on
in
march.
I
don't
believe
we
you
know
that
should
hold
us
up.
I
mean
I,
I
know
that
it
won't
be
the
final
voted
on,
but
it
would
be.
E
You
know
to
be
honest
with
you
100
honest
with
you.
I
don't
know
why
you
couldn't
just
do
all
this
one,
but
I
understand
that,
and
I
respect
everyone's
viewpoint
you
know
so
I
I
don't
think
this
needs
to
be
held
up.
I
don't
think
this
needs
to
be
held
up.
You
know,
because
if
the
county
denies
this
well,
we're
still
gonna
have
to
be
working
on
this
anyways
or
whatever
they
denied
yeah.
A
G
A
E
This
is
the
final.
This
is
what's
voted
on.
This
is
what
was
the
law
effectively
when
this
was
printed
out
in
2019?
So
that's
why
I
say
this
is
the
law.
So
when
I
say
we
go
back
to
working
on
this,
it's
what
we're
trying
to
change
and
make
it.
You
know
the
the
heart
changes,
the
the
more
substantive
changes.
This
is
the
proposed
changes
where
we're
trying
to
fix
the
numbering
as
well
as
the
the
you
know,
the
grammatical
stuff.
E
E
So
when
we're
going
through
this
again,
we
don't,
you
know,
find
our
own
values
that
we
could
have
fixed
here,
but
so
that's
how
I've
classified
it
in
my
own
mind
to
try
to
make
it
so
that
I
I
understand
all
these
different
versions
like
this
is
the
clean
version
and
you
see.
I
still
only
have
my
one
little
note
because
I
stopped
after
the
first
chapter
and
going
back
to
based
on
what,
where
you
guys
were
looking
back
at
this
version.
E
H
E
B
A
lot
a
lot
of
this
you
know
depends
on
when
we
can
get
the
next
meeting
scheduled
anyway.
I
mean
we
have
a
meeting
scheduled
for
march
3rd
to
to
look
at
the
report
that
brad
was
talking
about
earlier.
That
discusses.
B
H
D
I
just
want
to
note
that
february
3rd
is
next
wednesday.
Okay,
so
just
so,
people
have
that
okay,
so
essentially
the
best
thing
to
do
is
you
know
by
the
end
of
the
weekend.
You
know
if
you
can
do
your
review
and
get
your
comments
in.
A
B
A
That's
what
I'm
saying
and
then,
when
we
come
back
right
after
that,
because
once
it's
in
county
there's
nothing
stopping
us
to
further
amend
it
going
forward,
it's
just
whatever
we
adopt
that
we,
whatever
we
sent
to
county,
has
to
be
adopted
and
then
whatever
we
amend
after
that
is
something
separate
and
then
it
goes
back
to
county.
And
then
we
adopt
the
final
form.
B
All
right
very
good
motion
to
adjourn.
I
move
to
adjourn.