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B
Okay,
thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone.
B
This
is
the
june
9th
meeting
of
the
common
council's
planning
land
use
and
economic
development
committee
meeting
committee
members
present,
council,
member
tom
hawley,
council,
member
joyce
love
and
myself
council,
member
kathy
fahey,
and
I
know
elf,
councilmember
ballerin
will
be
joining
us
a
few
minutes
late
and
I'm
sure
judy
councilmember
negociates
on
her
way.
B
B
This
just
as
a
reminder,
it's
a
two-year
appointment,
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
individuals
who
are
knowledgeable
of
efforts
to
create
a
municipally
run
internet
who
might
have
a
background
in
finance
or
a
background
in
economic
development,
information
technology
or
perhaps
there's
some
other
skills
and
strengths.
That
would
make
one
of
these
individuals
a
strong
member
of
this
commission
and
again
it's
ten
members.
B
Total
five
are
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
five
are
appointed
by
the
council
and
so
before
we
get
started
now
after
we
do
that.
We
have
four
people
we're
going
to
be
interviewing
tonight
on
and
after
that,
we'll
have
a
discussion
that
discussion
will
be
in
executive
session
as
to
how
to
what
we're
going
to
do.
Who
we're
going
to
select
for
the
commission
any
questions
or
concerns
before
we
get
started.
C
Yeah
kathy,
I
know
that
you
said
that
after
the
meeting
we
go
into
executive
session,
will
we
check
out
the
credentials
of
the
people
before
making
the
decision
or
have
they
been
checked
out
already?
You
know
what
they
on
their
resume,
what
they
said.
B
Well,
I
think
that
not
normally
no
tom,
unless
there's
a
someone,
raises
a
specific
concern.
Okay
and.
B
No,
this
is
not
a
paid
position
and
it's
a
like.
I
said
it's
two-year
appointment.
They
will
draft
a
preliminary
report
within
120
days
and
a
final
report
after
the
preliminary
within
the
next
150
days,
and
the
commission
will
cease
to
exist
six
months
after
that
report
is
submitted.
B
All
right,
I
guess
we
have
our
first.
B
Our
first
interviewee
and
that
person
is
martin
robinson.
We
have
him
down
at
5
45
p.m.
He
wouldn't
happen
to
be
here.
Would
yeah
no
okay
so
we'll
give
that
a
a
couple
minutes.
A
A
B
D
Well,
the
term
limits
are
not
defined
in
terms
of
years
in
the
legislation.
It's
based
on
the
submissions
and
reports
right.
B
Okay,
that
could
be-
and
I
might
have
taken
this
out-
of
the
the
blurb-
not
the
actual
law.
B
B
I
mean
I
wouldn't
have,
I
don't
have
the
let's
say.
B
A
E
B
B
Okay,
judy
we're
just
waiting
for
the
arrival
of
our
first
interviewee.
F
D
C
C
Well,
we've!
Yes!
On
monday,
we
were
down
in
saugerties,
and
sometimes
I
get
a
good
signal,
sometimes
not,
but
I
think
this
will
all
end
next
year,
I'm
not
able
to
do
once
we
go
back
we're
home,
my
wife
does
it
or
he
won't
be
doing
it.
B
What
how
old
is
he?
What
grade
is
he
in.
C
B
B
All
right,
can
you
let
him
in.
H
Hello,
council,
member.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
tonight
and
and
your
willingness
to
interview
for
a
position
on
the
on
the
commission
on
municipal
internet
service.
B
Just
really
briefly,
the
mission
of
the
commission
is
to
research,
the
feasibility,
logistics
and
financing
of
creating
a
municipally
run.
Citizen-Owned
high-speed
internet
service
that
will
provide
internet
speeds
greater
than
what
private
companies
currently
provide
and
ensure
service
will
be
made
available
to
every
albany
resident
and
business,
and
five
members
are
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
five
members
will
be
appointed
by
this
council.
B
B
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
start
by
asking
you
to
introduce
yourself,
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
also
why
you
are
interested
in
serving
in
this
role
and
then
we'll
go
around
and
ask
some
questions
and
then
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
also
so
go
take
it.
Take
it
away.
Martin.
H
Okay,
well,
thank
you.
Well,
you
know.
My
name
is
martin
robinson.
Basically,
you
know
my
reasoning
for
joining
this
committee
was
because
really
for
the
last
you
know
few
years
you
know
I've
actually
been.
You
know
interested
in.
You
know
the
the
in
the
development
of
municipal
internet
systems,
I've
sort
of
have
an
experience
with
it
actually
within
the
city
of
albany.
You
know
when
my
family,
you
know
moved
to
albany
when
I
was
14
and
you
know
just
for
the
record.
H
I
live
just
outside
the
city
right
now,
but
you
know
I
went
to
high
school
here
and
such
and
when
I
moved
here,
my
parents
actually
utilized
the
albany
free
net.
You
know
in
2006
actually
initially
to
look
for
jobs
and
stuff,
and
you
know
I
actually
see
the
value
of
it.
I
mean
you
know
yeah,
it
wasn't.
You
know
useful,
for
you
know
going
on
the
new
youtube
at
the
time
or
you
know
playing
games
and
stuff,
but
you
know
it
definitely
did
help.
H
My
parents
get
a
leg
up
and
you
know
now
fast
forward
a
few
years
later.
I
don't
think
you
know,
the
free
net
is,
as
you
know,
really
reliable
as
it
used
to
be.
You
know
primarily
because
you
know
a
lot
more
people
have
mobile
devices
and
stuff.
I
mean
a
lot
more
people
than
in
2006,
and
you
know
something
has
to
you
know
it
could
probably
use
a
bit
of
an
upgrade
and
such
you
know
with
you
know,
technology
rising.
B
Well,
I
I
I
can
bring
up.
One
thing
is
you
know
you
were?
It
was
very
helpful
that
you
shared
the
paper
that
you
did,
and
maybe
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
that
you
was
on
that
was
on
municipal
internet
service.
H
Yeah,
so
basically
you
know
fast
forward.
Like
you
know,
2005,
you
know,
I
think
you
know
the
city
of
albany
had
you
know
you
know
looked
into
that
idea.
It
was
around
the
time
that
you
know
the
city
had.
You
know,
had
a
sort
of
a
committee
to
look
in
a
task
force
to
look
into
this,
and
you
know
it
was
in
that
spirit
that
basically,
I
kind
of
like
wrote
this
paper
to
see.
H
Basically
what
other
you
know,
local
governments
were
doing,
and
you
know
ultimately,
you
know
I've
seen
you
know
really
three
ways:
people
have
you
know
tried
to.
You
know,
expand
and
improve
internet
service.
You
know
the
first
being
to
regulate
it.
The
second
to
you
know
subsidize
existing
services,
and
you
know
the
third
way
you
know
to.
Basically
you
know
build
a
new
system.
H
You
know
the
first
way
you
know
regulation.
You
know
we
kind
of
see
that
in
action
you
know
you
recently,
the
you
know,
state
legislature
and
the
governor
signed.
You
know
a
new
law.
Basically,
you
know
requiring
on
all
internet
providers
to
provide
a
minimum
service.
You
know
and
charge
no
more
than
15.
You
know
dollars
a
month
for
that,
and
you
know
right
from
the
get-go.
You
can
see
the
limits
of
that,
because
already
you
have
a
number
of
providers
that
are,
you
know,
suing
the
government
to
prevent
this
from
being
imposed.
H
So
you
have
the
real
possibility
of
that
law.
You
know,
possibly
being
you
know,
overturned
in
court.
You
know.
The
second
means
that
you
know
I
looked
at
in
the
paper
was
basically
subsidizing
services
and
you
know,
ultimately,
you
know
short
term
that
you
know
can
be
a
cheap
and
effective
way
of
expanding
service
and
ensuring
that
more
people
have
access
to
quality
broadband.
H
But
ultimately
you
know
what
you
have
is
you
know.
Companies
will
often
try
to
get
over.
With
that
you
know
about
a
month
ago
I
was
reading
a
story
about
you
know.
You
know
the
bible
administration
had
the
body
administration's
fcc
had
basically,
you
know
put
in
the
requirement
you
had
put
in
the
subsidy
program.
You
know
giving
people,
you
know
fifty
dollars
a
month
to
be
used
toward.
You
know
broadband
internet
service
and
you
have
you
know
in
it
was
found
that
you
know
you
had
you
know
verizon.
H
You
know
one
of
the
companies
that
you
know
does
provide
this
service
in
certain
areas,
they've
been
finding
that
what
verizon's
been
doing
is
telling
people
that
you
know.
Yes,
you
know
if
you're
eligible
for
this,
fifty
dollar
subsidy
sign
up
for
it,
but
in
order
to
get
the
subsidy
you
have
to
get
the
highest
tier
service.
H
H
Ultimately,
you
know
this
is
that
building
out
in
your
system
is
an
expensive
prospect
and
you
know
it.
You
know
the
numbers
can
be.
You
know
costly.
It
can
be
a
scary
to
look
at
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
most
cities
that
have
built
this
kind
of
service.
H
H
You
know,
companies
like
time
warner,
cable.
Now,
spectrum
were
raising
their
prices
all
over
the
country,
but
they
found
that
they
weren't
raising
their
prices
in
areas
that
had
a
municipal
internet
service
because
there
it's
competition,
so
you
know
so
basically
you
know
I'm
hoping
to
you
know
kind
of
you
know.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Martin.
Now,
let's
go
around
and
see
what
other
council
members
have
questions
or
comments.
C
Yeah
hi
martin,
I'm
very
impressed
with
your
resume,
be
able
to
get
a
master's
degree.
It
looked
like
a
year
and
a
half
after
getting
your
bachelor's,
and
I
worked
at
you
albany.
So
a
little
bit
very
good
with
the
urban
planning
did
that
ever
come
up
like
in
your
studies
about
internet
and
access,
like
that,
I'm
just
curious.
H
You
know,
I
don't
think
I
you
know
took
a
particular
class
on
it
and
such,
but
you
know
basically
you
know
my
mpa.
You
know
my
concentration,
it
was
in
local
government
management
and
urban
planning
and
policy.
So
ultimately,
one
of
the
topics
I
was
looking
into
you
know:
municipal
internet
was,
you
know
fairly
new
at
the
time,
so
it
kind
of
like
really
just
took.
You
know
personal
initiative.
You
know
doing
some
of
this
research.
You
know
by
scratch
to
see
you
know
what
works
best.
C
Now
we
interviewed
both
verizon
and
att
for
the
they're
they're
looking
to
get
permission
or
our
sign
off
on
the
5g
service,
and
I
did
bring
up
about
you
know.
What
can
you
do
for
us
and
of
course
their
thing
is
that
well,
the
fcc
allows
us
to
charge
what
we
want
hold
on
one.
Second,
I
gotta
close
the
door
leah.
C
You
know,
I'm
gonna
meet
sorry,
you
know
they
claim
that
you
know
that
they
really
can't
do
much
because
the
fcc
and
I'm
thinking
more
of
you
know
giving
back
to
the
community.
That's
keeping
you
know
they're
making
a
lot
of
money
here.
So
just.
I
C
I
agree
with
you
on
that.
You
need
to
have
more
competition
because
they're
kind
of
playing
the
same
ball
game
together
and
keeping
you
know
the
prices
up
anything
else.
Like
today's
view
you
you'd
be
coming
in
as
not
as
well.
You
have
the
technical
background,
but
you
also
have
the
like
the
public
affairs.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
you
I
want
to
thank
you
for
applying,
and
you
know
I
hope
we
can
get
you
on.
Thank
you.
H
It's
no
problem,
you
know.
One
thing
I
did
want
to
say
is
that
you
know,
I
think
you
know
the
one
thing
I
do.
I
think
5g
has
a
great
deal
of
promise.
The
only
issue
that
I
have
with
it
is
basically
you
know
a
lot
of
you
know.
You
know.
5G
basically
involves
like
you,
know,
broadcasting
out
signals
and
stuff
and
stuff,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
those.
H
You
know
a
lot
of
that
spectrum
was
brought
up
by
a
lot
of
those
telecoms
like
you
know,
at
t
and
verizon
and
stuff,
because
they
had
bought
the
unu.
They
bought
the
what
used
to
be
used
for
analog
tv
service.
They
basically
now
are
reserving
that
for
5g,
and
you
know
the
only
concern
that
I
have
with
that
is,
while
I
think
it'll,
you
know
be
a
cheap
way
of
you
know
expanding
internet
access.
H
C
Well,
I'm
a
union
guy,
and
I
noticed
that
you're
a
pep
you
know
the
past
horizon
is
that
they
don't
the
the
wired
part
of
their
network.
The
wired
part
of
their
corporation
is
unionized,
but
the
wireless
part
isn't
and
that's
why
they're
pushing
I
mean
that's
real
theory
that
they're
pushing
to
do
this
wireless,
so
they
don't
have
to
have
union
people
doing
it
so
and
fiber
lasts
for.
C
B
Okay,
I
I
just
want
to
mention
that
councilmember
alfredo
ballerin
has
joined
us
any
other
comments
or
questions
for
mr
robinson
from
council
members,
council
member
doche.
Are
you
waving
your
hand?
There.
F
I
was
trying
to
get
to
raising
my
hand
the
technical
way,
but
my
my
finger
kept
on
landing
on
the
wrong
place.
Okay,
mr
robinson,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
interest
in
this
position.
It's
fascinating
that
you
have
done
so
much
research
in
the
past.
F
Life
changes
quickly
in
the
technology
area,
so
I
am
wondering
and,
and
your
paper
is
from
2015.
I
believe
I'm
wondering
how
much
updating
of
that
research
that
you
did
is
required
and
appropriate
to
evaluate
the
options,
whether
there's
anything
new
on
the
horizon.
That
makes
municipal
internet
service
a
little
bit
more
viable
and
the
other
thing
is
you're
employed
full-time
and
I'm
wondering
how
much
time
you
have
to
devote
to
your
service
over
the
next
six
months.
Six
to
nine
months
on
this.
H
Well,
you
know
the
second
part
is
probably
easier
to
answer.
You
know
I
do
work
at
you
know
regular.
You
know
nine
to
five
job,
so
you
know
I
general
generally
am
available.
You
know
most,
you
know
weekday
evenings
and
such
and
you
know
I
it.
You
know
if
and
you
know
weekends
if
necessary.
So
you
know
that
generally
is
my
availability
and
you
know
I
do
have
some
time.
You
know
I
can
take
off
here
and
there,
if
necessary,
to
answer
your
first
question.
You
know
I've.
H
Actually,
you
know
revisited
this
paper
actually
a
few
times
and
stuff,
and
I
think
I
written
it
in
a
way
that
you
know
you
know
be
more.
You
know
to
have
more
of
a
general
look
at
these
items
and
stuff,
I
don't
think
the
fundam.
I
don't
think
the
general
ideas
haven't
changed
too
much.
I
think
if
there
are
any
changes
that
would
need
to
be
made,
it
probably
would
be
what
would
be
considered.
H
You
know
it
would
probably
be
the
definition
of
high-speed
internet,
and
you
know
what
that
would
look
like
one
thing
that
one
thing
that
would
probably
also
be
different
is
probably
you
know
the
cost
would
be.
You
know
for
developing
a
municipal
internet
service.
You
know
it
probably
was
a
lot
more
expensive
to
do.
You
know
when
I
wrote
this
paper
than
it
is
probably
now,
but
still
is
you
know
a
pretty.
You
know
good
price
tag,
for
you
know
a
city,
the
size
of
albany.
H
I
would
also
say
that
you
know,
I
think
the
politics
have
kind
of
you
know
shifted
shifted
a
little
bit.
You
know
from
when
I
had
initially
wrote
it
because
you
know
in
2015.
You
know
it
still
very
much
was
you
know?
Okay,
you
know,
how
can
you
know
local
governments,
you
know
do
more
with
less,
and
you
know
what
you
know:
scam
resources.
Can
we
provide
to
do
this
now
we're
looking
at?
Actually
a
you
know,
possible
infrastructure
build
with
you
know
the
potential.
H
F
Thank
you.
I
I
just
wanted
to
a
little
follow-up
question
and
just
get
a
gut
reaction
on
this
question
that
I
have
in
my
mind,
and
that
is
does
the?
Is
there
an
economics
of
scale
so
for
a
larger
city?
F
I'm
wondering
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
certain
amount
of
the
base
cost
that
you
have
no
matter
the
size
of
the
city
and
then
with
regard
to
administrative
sales,
installation
etc,
and
you
know
whether
the
cost
may
be
per
capita
might
be
higher
in
a
city
that
is
smaller,
like
the
city
of
albany
or
whether
there's
a
benefit
in
us
being
a
smaller
city
and
any
you
know,
I
I'm
just
curious
about
that
kind
of
question
and
I'm
looking
for
a
gut
reaction,
I'm
not
going
to
hold
you
to
it.
Oh
that's.
H
Fine,
I
don't
think
I've
really
looked
into
it
large
cities
and
stuff
because
usually
in
large
cities
like
new
york
city
or
you
know
chicago
or
los
angeles,
you
have
multiple
providers
in
an
area
and
stuff.
So
you
know
there's
competition,
so
those
providers,
you
know
they
have
to
be
able
to
you
know,
compete
with
one
another.
So
you
kind
of
have
a
little
bit
of
control
on
the
prices
there.
Most
of
the
places
that
I've
looked
at
that
have
developed.
H
H
You
know
more
cost
effective
for
the
city
and
you
know
I
was
actually
just
looking
this
up
actually
a
few
days
ago,
and
you
know
what
I've
been
seeing
is
that
when
we
develop
a
municipal
internet
service,
it
does
take
some
time
it
does
take
a
few
years
for
it
to
gain
enough
traction
so
that
you
know
for
one
it
can,
you
know
somewhat
break
even
or
not
be
as
much
of
a
financial
burden
to
the
municipality
and
to
you
know
you
kind
of
want
to
see.
H
You
know
growth
in
that,
because
it
allows
the
it
ultimately
forces
the
existing.
You
know
telecom
provider
to
be
forced
to
compete.
I
was
you
know
there
was
a
a
municipal
internet
service
in
colorado
that
you
know
basically
noted
that
it
took
you
know
about.
You
know
five
years
for
them
to
gain
fifty
percent
of
their
city's
market
share
as
far
as
developing
a
subscriber
base
for
their
municipal
internet
service
and
that's
what
and
that
basically
forced
their
local
cable
provider.
H
E
G
Thank
you,
mr
robinson,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
taking
your
time
and
applying
for
this
and
be
willing
to
volunteer
your
time
on
this
commission.
I
do
appreciate
that
my
question
is
actually
a
real
simple
one
in
your
research.
Did
you
see
what
was
the
price
differences
that
municipalities
were
charging
residents?
Was
it
higher
than
the
already
existing
company
and
they
have
the
same
speed
levels
as
the
existing
companies
have
that
are
already
in
in
the
game
for
the
site.
H
Generally,
I've
seen
the
prices
for
these
municipal
services
to
be
a
lot
lower
and
speeds
greatly.
You
know
higher,
I
mean
you
know
a
lot
of
places.
They're,
you
know
selling
their.
You
know
gigabit
service,
you
know
basically
one
you
know
gigabits
of
internet
speed
per
second,
they
sell
it
for
about.
H
You
know
fit
60
to
70
dollars,
and
then
you
have
lower
tiered
services
like
such
as
those
that
you
know
most
people
would
need
to,
you
know,
say,
do
a
zoom
meeting
or
you
know,
play
a
video
game
or
you
know,
watch
you
know
youtube
videos.
The
prices
are
substantially
lower.
Like
you
know,
say
you
know
100.
You
know
megabits
per
second
for,
like
you
know,
10
to
15,
which
you
know
by
comparison,
the
new
legislation
that
was
signed
capping.
You
know
the
internet
prices
for
low-income
homes.
H
That
only
offers,
I
believe
you
know,
15
megabits
per
second,
so
it's
generally
substantially
lower
and
you
know
very
much.
You
know
better
better
quality.
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
all
right,
seeing
none.
Mr
robinson,
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
again
for
your
willingness
to
apply
for
this
position.
We
deeply
appreciate
it.
It's
very
clear
that
you
have
a
great
interest
in
this
area
and
we
thank
you
again
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
you.
B
Yes,
go
ahead,
and
this
is
andy.
B
B
Welcome
andy
to
our
planning
committee
meeting,
I'm
the
chair,
kathy
fahey,
and
what
let's
see
here.
B
We
appreciate
you
interviewing
for
this
position
as
commissioner
for
commissioner
of
the
albany
commission
on
municipal
internet
service.
The
mission
is
to
research,
the
feasibility,
logistics
and
financing
of
creating
a
municipally
run.
Citizen-Owned
high-speed
internet
service
that
will
provide
internet
speeds
greater
than
what
private
companies
currently
provide
and
ensure
service
will
be
made
available
to
every
albany
resident
and
business.
B
The
common
council
will
be
appointing
five
individuals
to
the
commission
and
the
mayor
two
will
appoint
five
individuals
to
the
commission.
We
had
a
series
of
interviews
last
week
and,
and
then
our
last
interviews
are
this
evening
and
we'll
be
making
a
decision
shortly
after
that.
B
So
we
really
appreciate
you
applying
and
what
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
do
is
briefly
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
yourself
and
why
you
are
interested
in
serving
on
the
commission
and
then
we'll
go
around
and
ask
some
questions,
and
if
you
have
questions
also
you'll
have
an
opportunity
there
as
well.
So
welcome.
I
Wonderful
well,
thank
you
and
appreciate
the
welcome
appreciate
you
all
allowing
me
me
to
be
here.
My
name
is
andy
kyr
pronouns.
Are
he
him
and
his?
So
maybe
just
a
little
bit
about
about
me
and
why
you
know
how
I
ended
up
here
tonight
why
I'm
interested
in
serving
on
the
commission.
I
So
I
grew
up
in
in
the
capital
region,
I'm
from
queensbury
originally
and
lived
outside
of
the
the
area
for
for
a
number
of
years
working
in
the
technology
industry,
and
you
know
more
recently
moved
back
to
the
area
wanted
to
be
in
albany
with
my
partner
and
continued
to
work
as
a
remote
employee
in
the
in
the
technology,
industry
and
sort
of
my
my
interest
in
the
the
commission
is
is
sort
of
twofold.
I
I
That
sort
of
fits
squarely
in
that
category
and
I
believe
the
use
of
something
like
municipal
internet
can
allow
us
to
achieve
more
equity
in
in
the
city
of
in
the
city
of
albany,
in
terms
of
access
to
what
is
a
pretty
critical
resource.
And
secondly,
you
know
I'm
I'm
passionate
about
the
technology
sort
of
generally.
My
academic
background
is
in
computer
science.
That's
what
I
earned
my
degree
in
in
for
the
past.
You
know
nine
or
so
years.
I
I've
worked
in
various
capacities,
as
in
software
engineering
and
sort
of
technology
consulting
in
various
various
capacities.
So,
although
I
don't
have
expertise
on
you
know,
sort
of
municipal
and
internet
in
particular,
I
think
I
could
bring
sort
of
a
valuable
technical
background
to
to
the
commission.
B
Okay,
that's
terrific!
So
we'll
all
of
us,
a
lot
of
us
will
have
questions.
Let's
anybody
would
like
to
starve
council
members
questions
for
mr.
B
B
I'll
start
one
of
the
things
I
was
very
interested
when
I
was
reading
your
letter
was
that
the
impacts
I
mean
we're
dealing
with
franchise
agreements
right
now
with
various
wireless
services
and
regarding
bringing
5g
into
this
into
the
city,
and
you
are
made
a
comment
about
the
impacts
of
5g
wireless
on
albany,
and
maybe
you
can,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
you
know?
Is
that
going
to
be
enough
or
should
we
still
consider
pursuing?
You
know
broadband.
I
Yeah,
certainly,
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
there's,
a
great
question.
I
I
think
that
it's
something
that
deserves
further
research
like
I.
I
don't
want
to
pretend
to
have
expertise
in
an
area
that
I
don't
I
am
familiar
with,
with
5g
sort
of
in
a
broad
sense
and
the
impacts
that
it
could
potentially
have
it's.
My
understanding
as
I
as
I've
done
a
little
bit
of
additional
research
that
oftentimes
there
are
there's.
I
Potentially
a
there's,
potentially
overlap
here,
where
some
of
the
infrastructure,
the
fiber
infrastructure,
that
municipalities
would
need
to
enable
something
like
municipal
broadband,
would
also
be
useful
for
sort
of
the
backbones
required
for
5g.
I
So
I
don't
necessarily,
I
guess
my
thought
would
be
it's
something
that
I
think
the
commission
should
investigate
a
bit
further
and
explore
so
that
we
don't
find
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
you
know
we
make
a
significant
investment
as
a
city
for
10
years
down
the
road
or
five
years
down
the
road
it
to
be
obsolete.
I
You
know
my
initial
reading
on
that
is,
you
know,
is
very
sort
of
top
top
level
and
it
seems
to
indicate
that
that's
would
not
be
the
case,
but
I
certainly
think
it
it
is
worthy
of
some.
You
know
additional
consideration
and
research
to
ensure
that
we're
you
know
built
investing
in
in
what
is
going
to
be
a
long-term
solution.
B
Okay,
thank
you
other
council
members
with
questions
or
comments.
Council,
member
ballerin.
B
G
G
Just
had
a
simple
question,
so
this
is
good.
First,
thank
you
for
taking
your
time
and
applying
for
these
positions.
We're
on,
I
understand,
volunteer
position,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
always
great-
that
we
have
so
many
residents
that
are
willing
to
volunteer
at
a
time
to
serve
on
such
an
important
commission.
G
Can
you
give
us
a
better
understanding
of
how
you
are
able
to
balance
all
your
responsibilities,
because
what
we
want,
even
though
it
is
a
volunteer
commission,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people's
commitments
that
they're
going
to
take
make
this
a
priority
and
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
attend
the
meetings
and
committees
that
have
followed
up
part
of
being
a
member
of
the
commission.
I
Yeah,
I
mean
definitely
it's
it's
it's
a
great
question
and
I
think
I
I
thought
I
thought
very
seriously
and
about
you
know
whether
this
whether
or
not
this
is
something
that
I
wish
wish
to
pursue,
because
it
is
a
commitment
that
I
would
take
very
seriously.
It
isn't
something
just
it's
sort
of
like
an
afterthought.
I
You
know
if
I
were
appointed
to
the
commission,
it's
something
that
I
would
I
would
be
prioritizing
and
making
sure
that
you
know
that
I'm
able
to
be
attending
the
meetings,
because,
ultimately,
I
think
public
service
is
incredibly
important.
I
you
know
I
admire
you
all
as
as
public
servants
and
so
should.
I
should
I
step
into
that
role.
It's
it's
certainly
something
that
I
would
prioritize
and
ensure
that
I'm,
you
know
committed
to
100
percent.
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
interest.
Your
credentials
are
impressive.
I'm
I'm
I'm
not
a
technology
person.
I
use
technology,
sometimes
more
successfully
than
others
generally
fairly
successfully.
F
F
F
I
thought
right
that
that
talked
about
different
options,
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
how
much
you've
done
on
that
and
how
transferable
or
relevant
is
your
software
experience
other
than
clearly
you
are
more
comfortable
with
technology
than
I
am.
I
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
great,
that's,
a
great
question
and
I
have
done
I
I
have
done
some.
You
know
somewhat
limited
research
in
terms
of
what
what
this
is
look
like
in
other
municipalities,
I
think
like
chattanooga,
is,
is
sort
of
the
you
may
be
familiar
with
this
sort
of
like
the
was
one
of
the
originals.
I
think
they
put
their
system
in
place
around
10
years
ago.
It's
been
a
really
big
success
and
you
know
more
and
more
municipalities.
I
I
think,
as
a
result
of
that
have
looked
into
things.
Longmont
colorado
was
another
city
that
was
at
least
somewhat
comparable
in
population
size
to
albany
that
I've
read
a
little
bit
about
as
well
and
they've
worked
on
that
project
a
bit
more
recently.
I
As
far
as
like
the
transferability
of
the
skills,
I
would
say
the
answer
is
the
honest
answer
is
somewhat
you
know
I
have
a
like
in
in
undergrad.
Have
a
you
know:
basic
understanding
of
computer
networking
and
sort
of
the
like
fundamentals
of
how
these
things
work,
but
I
I
think
the
other
piece
of
that
is
I
I
am
aware
of.
I
Like
my
limitations
in
that
regard,
like
I,
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
sort
of
try
to
pretend
to
be
something
that
I
I
wasn't,
but
I
could
be
able
to
help
sort
of
guide
the
commission
commission
in
terms
of
hey.
We
should
really
consult
with
an
expert
in
x,
y
or
z
particular
field,
because
this
may
be
sort
of
outside
the
scope
of
what
we
as
a
commission
are
able
to.
You
know
understand
definitively,
so
you
know,
I
think,
yeah.
I
think
that
that's
that's
how
I
would
sort
of
summarize
things.
I
I
think
the
background
in
technology
is
certainly
helpful,
but
at
the
same
time
I
don't
want
to
over
state
and
act
like
I'm
like
a
municipal
broadband
expert
by
any
means.
B
Yeah
I
just
I
want
to
stop
and
mention
that
president
pro
tem
kelly
kimbrough
was
also
here.
So
any
other
questions
by
council
members.
B
Comments
we,
it
looks
like
we
lost
joyce
all
right.
Well,
mr
k,
we're
really
appreciate
that
you
took
the
time
to
interview
with
us
today
and
again
we'll
be
making
our
decision
probably
this
evening,
and
we
will
be
back
in
touch
with
you.
We
hope
you
have
a
great
evening.
B
I
Well,
I
mean
if
we
did,
if
we
had
a
moment,
I
would
be
curious
just
to
know
I
know
in
terms
of
how
you're
all
viewing
like
the
structure
and
sort
of
commitment
of
the
committee.
I
don't
think
that
was
really
covered
in
the
initial
document
that
got
put
out.
Is
that
something
that's
been
decided
or
to
be
determined
just
in
terms
of
like
meeting
cadence
frequency.
B
Yes,
that
is
going
to
be
completely
up
to
the
commission
to
determine
how
often
you
meet,
and
you
know
who
there's
going
to
be
a
chairmanship
position,
we're
going
to
leave
that
completely
up
to
the
commission
and-
and
you
probably
did
read
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
a
preliminary
report
within
120
days
of
you
of
the
commission
forming
and
a
final
report
within
150
days
after
the
receipt
of
the
preliminary
report
and
commission
will
end
six
months
after
the
receipt
of
that
final
report.
B
Okay,
so
let's
see
the
time
is
6
17
we've,
our
next
interviewee
is
caitlin
and
that's
at
6
25.
So
we
have
a
few
few
minutes.
B
A
E
D
D
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E
E
B
Okay,
welcome
caitlin,
I'm
chair,
kathy
fahey
planning
committee,
and
so
we
appreciate
you
joining
us
tonight
and
your
willingness
to
serve
on
the
commission
to
interview
to
serve
on
the
commission
on
municipal
internet
service
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
a
little
early,
we're
moving
along
a
little
more
quickly
than
usual,
usually
we're
quite
quite
a
bit
late,
but
we're
doing
great
tonight
you
know,
and
the
mission
is
of
the
commission-
is
to
research,
the
feasibility,
logistics
and
financing
of
creating
a
municipally
run.
B
Citizen-Owned
high-speed
internet
service
that
will
provide
internet
speeds
greater
than
what
private
companies
currently
provide.
An
ensure
service
will
be
made
available
to
every
albany,
resident
and
business.
As
you
probably
know,
this
is
a
10-member
commission.
Five
members
are
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
five
are
appointed
by
the
council.
B
What
we'll
expect
of
the
commission
is
a
preliminary
report
within
120
days
of
it
being
formed
and
then
a
final
report
within
the
next
150
days.
After
that
preliminary
report,
the
commission
will
cease
to
exist
six
months
after
we
we
received
that
final
report.
B
So
what
we're
going
to
ask
tonight
is
that
you
take
a
few
minutes
and
introduce
yourself
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
yourself
and
why
you
are
interested
in
serving
on
the
albany
commission
on
municipal
internet
service
and
then
we'll
go
around,
and
the
council
members
will
ask
some
questions
and
and
you'll
also
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
and
and
ask
questions
yourself.
So
thank
you
again
for
joining
us.
J
J
Most
of
my
work
involves
compliance
with
technical,
legal
things
like
hipaa
and
high
tech,
which
I
gather
we're
all
hearing
a
lot
more
about
now
than
we're
used
to,
but
also
fraud
and
abuse,
public
integrity,
best
practices,
conflicts
of
interest.
Things
like
that.
J
I'm
married.
I
have
two
big
dogs,
a
cat,
and
I
live
in
a
historic
home
in
hudson
park.
So
I
I
think,
that's
sort
of
the
quick
and
dirty
on
who
I
am.
I
have
plenty
of
weird
niche
interests
that
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
more
about,
but
for
the
internet
committee
you
know
the
quality
of
the
service
available
here
has
been
kind
of
a
an
irritant
to
me
and
many
people.
I
know
for
some
time.
J
I'm
sure
that's
true
of
you
as
well
when
friends
of
mine-
and
I
heard
that
there
was
a
committee
forming
for
this
purpose,
or
we
were
all
sitting
around
like
on
a
stoop
over
on
j
street,
like
all
of
us
should
apply
for
this,
because
somebody
should
get
on
this
committee
to
make
sure
you
know
you
hear
from
us.
J
So
you
know
like
many
people,
I've
been
working
from
home
for
the
last
year,
which
is
not
my
norm
and
the
quality
of
the
internet
service
that
I
can
access
is
pretty
low
and
I
have
a
lot
of
resources.
J
I'm
fortunate
that
I
have
those
resources,
but,
as
I
think
I
put
in
my
cover
letter,
I
found
that
I
can't
do
my
work
when
it
comes
to
face-to-face
just
meetings
with
people.
If
my
husband,
who
has
a
job
that
has
him
working
from
home,
is
doing
the
same
thing
and
we
have
the
most
expensive
internet
we
could
buy.
We
have
a
mesh
system.
J
You
know
something
that
I
think
we
overlook
is
the
fact
that
a
lot
of
times,
the
way
you
get
access
to
information
about
your
community
is
online.
Now
many
government
agencies
and
entities
put
the
most
current
information
on
twitter.
First
part
of
my
job
during
the
pandemic
was
monitoring
the
constant
changes
in
executive
orders,
for
instance
in
the
state
of
new
york
for
healthcare
providers.
J
The
actual
best
way
for
me
to
get
that
information
was
to
stream
the
governor's.
You
know
daily
briefing
at
11
30
and
keep
an
eye
on
twitter.
If
I
couldn't
access
those
resources,
I
couldn't
do
my
job
effectively
and
I
think
that's
true
for
people
who
wanted
to
know
about
parking
tickets,
what
was
going
on
with
their
kids
school
and
any
number
of
other
things.
So
you
know
I,
I
think
it
almost
goes
without
saying
that
you
need
strong
internet
service
to
be
able
to
do
what
you
need
to
do.
J
It's
just
a
person
in
our
community.
I
also
took
a
look
at
the
report
that
I
believe
the
contractors
named
millennium,
I'm
probably
using
the
wrong
name,
but
there
is
a
2015
report
that
I
gather
you
know
the
city's
commission.
So
I'm
aware
that
this
is
a
long-standing
issue
that
the
city
cares
about,
but
I
was
sort
of
shocked
to
see
that
something
like
a
third
or
a
quarter
of
people
in
our
community
do
not
have
quality
internet
access.
Maybe
aside
from
a
smartphone,
you
know,
I
guess
I
shouldn't
be
shocked.
J
You
know
it's
shocked,
but
not
surprised.
Maybe
is
the
right
inclination
it's
just
too
expensive.
Frankly,
particularly
if
you're
having
to
make
choices
about
what
services
you
can
afford
and
need
to
have
you
know
if
you're
choosing
to
have
your
smartphone,
you
need
it
there's
no
way
to
live
for
most
of
us
without
having
a
smartphone.
You
need
to
be
able
to
do
sms
and
phone
calls
and
other
things.
J
I
think
I'll
add
to
that
that
something
I've
got
maybe
a
unique
insight
into
is
where
our
health
care
services
are
going
in
this
space.
So
we
were
all
in
the
middle
of
a
crazy
experiment
in
telehealth
that
happened
because
of
koben,
and
I
can
speak
for
you
know
the
work
I
do
at
my
company,
which
is
an
independent
physician-owned
practice
here
in
the
capital
region,
we're
very
large.
J
That
sounds
like
a
niche
issue
before,
but
during
the
pandemic
it
was
not
a
niche
issue.
This
is
important
to
all
of
us.
You
think
about
people
who
live
in
communities
that
are
right
in
the
middle
of
you
know.
I
could
walk
there
from
my
house
and
can't
get
a
good
signal.
That's
shocking,
but
you
know
okay,
so
let's
say
the
pandemic
is
going
away
now,
but
reality
is
that
this
part
of
our
healthcare
infrastructure
is
going
to
stay
right
now.
J
Healthcare
payers,
including
the
public
payers,
are
talking
right
now
about
keeping
virtual
healthcare
through
telemed
telehealth,
behavioral
health,
keeping
it
which
most
people
want
they
like
it.
But
that
means
that
we're
going
to
start
seeing
health
care
plans
that
offer
what's
called
virtual
first
ritual
first
means
that
your
first
stop
at
the
doctor's
office
would
be
through
a
telemed
visit.
J
Most
people
like
this,
but
if
you
don't
have
good
internet
at
home
and
you're
trying
to
just
do
it
on
your
smartphone
you're
going
to
have
diminishing
returns,
I
will
add
that
there
was
a
new
role
that
went
into
effect
this
year
that
gave
enhanced
electronic
access
to
everybody
to
their
medical
records.
If
you
don't
have
good
internet
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
that,
nor
will
you
be
able
to
effectively
manage,
for
instance,
your
child's
health
care.
J
In
the
same
way,
I
I
just
think
that
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
notice
if
we
don't
address
sort
of
the
divide
between
the
house
and
have
not
with
internet
we're
going
to
start
noticing
that
people
aren't
it's
not
just
that
they're
not
able
to
communicate
it's
that
they're
not
able
to
access
crucial
things
like
government
services
and
health
care.
So
that's
sort
of
where
I
am
on
this.
J
I'm
I'm
aware
that
a
lot
of
people
who
know
a
lot
about
this
area
have
prepared
a
report
that
people
who
you
know
work
in
government
have
been
at
this
some
time.
So
I
I
here
to
come
with
a
beginner's
eye,
but
those
are
sort
of
the
reasons
why
I
decided
to
apply.
Does
that
answer
your
question
and
you're
muted.
B
Thank
you
caitlyn,
so
that's
very
helpful.
So
now
we'll
go
I'll
turn
to
other
council
members
to
see
if
they
have
any
questions
or
comments.
F
Thank
you
very
much
caitlin.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
interest
in
this
position
and
I
appreciate
you're,
bringing
I
think,
a
novel,
a
viewpoint
to
this
discussion
that
that
is
important.
F
Having
my
having
taken
advantage
of
some
telemedicine
options
and
having
been
a
former
attorney
in
the
new
york
state
department
of
health,
knowing
how
we
used
to
consider
that
taboo
in
some
ways
and
my
how
the
world
change
is
when
there
is
a
real
necessity,
and
I
look
forward
to
us
continuing-
maybe
keeping
an
open
mind
to
a
lot
of
different
problem
solving
in
our
country,
not
only
on
the
health
care
and
but
also
on
the
employment
end.
F
As
somebody
who
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
healthcare.
I
appreciate
that
background,
but
I
know
that
I
would
come
ill-equipped
to
really
problem-solve
on
this
particular
issue,
and
I
I'm
curious
about
your
perspective
about
what
you
know.
What
background
that
you
have
that
in
terms
of
people
really
jumping
in
and
saying.
Okay,
so
we
understand
the
need
and
there's
these
different
perspectives,
but
the
bottom
line
is
still:
we
need
a
an
appropriate
solution.
F
We
need
recommendations
for
an
appropriate
solution
and
I
consider
it
like
a
super
technical
challenge,
nut
to
crack
to
really
look
at
the
potential
different
options
and
then
providing
we're
really
looking
for
the
direction.
Now.
Where
do
we
go?
And
so
I'm
curious
about
your
perspective,
for
what
you
bring
to
the
table
to
actually
come
up
with
problem
solve
and
and
solutions.
J
Good
question,
so
I
I
asked
myself
that
so
I'm
a
pretty
solution,
oriented
thinker,
you
know,
one
of
the
things
I
do
is
in-house
counsel,
as
opposed
to
being
on
the
outside.
Is
I'm
often
involved
with
sort
of
the
business
folks
in
the
business
evaluating
options
before
a
problem
happens?
So
I'm
very
well
accustomed
to
being
the
person
around
the
table.
Who
does
not
know
the
most
about
something?
J
You
know
I'm
often
talking
to
doctors
about
something:
that's
they
do
for
a
living,
and
I
don't,
but
where
I
I
do
have
some
skills
that
I
think
could
be
valuable.
I'm
pretty
good
at
asking
questions
about
really
kind
of
meat
and
potatoes
feasibility.
How
much
does
it
cost?
Does
a
solution
box
out
other
future
solutions?
J
Is
it
too
difficult
to
implement?
Would
a
regular
person
who
you're
talking
to
in
your
neighborhood
understand
how
to
do
this?
How
many
steps
is
too
many
steps
for
something?
That
is
something
I
do
all
the
time,
and
I
think
that
you
know.
Probably
the
citizen
component
of
a
committee
like
this
is
at
least
in
part
sort
of
reality
testing.
J
I
think
I
acknowledge
on
some
level
you
know,
like
I'm
married
to
an
engineer,
I
work
with
tech
people
all
the
time,
so
maybe
I'm
not
necessarily
the
typical
resident,
but
I
think
I
understand
enough
to
be
able
to
ask
questions
about.
You
know
the
big
things
that
lead
to
sustainability,
which
to
me
is
you
know,
can
we
afford
it?
Can
it
be
implemented
in
a
timely
fashion?
What
are
the
barriers
that
individuals
would
have
to
adopting?
Those
are
probably
the
big
things
to
me.
You
know.
J
That
is
something
I
am
comfortable
doing
by
the
way
is
reading
the
fine
print
on
eligibility
for
programmatic
type
things
like
grants
and
rebates,
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
totally
there
with
you
or
a
congresswoman
but
council.
Member
that
I
I
do
come
with
sort
of
an
outsider's
point
of
view.
I
do
not
have
a
hard
tech
background.
F
Thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
especially
having
sat
around
the
table
with
a
lot
of
doctors
and
laboratory
personnel
and
people
with
you
know,
master's
in
public
health
etc,
and
it's
great,
I
loved
what
I
learned
in
that
process
and
asking
some
of
those
questions
and
and
finding
out.
F
Sometimes
I'm
asking
questions
that
are
even
better
than
I
thought
they
were
when
I
was
asking
them
as
somebody
who
was
a
novice
in
that
I
do
want
to
mention
that
I
think
one
of
the
big
questions
that
this
group
needs
to
also
look
at
is
what
legal
authority
do
we
have
with
regard
to
getting
a
competition
if
we
were
to
develop
a
municipal
internet,
do
we
need
legislation
passed
by
a
new
york
state
legislature,
and
if
so,
what
does
that
legislation
need
to
look
like?
Would
it
be
a
simple
authority?
F
Is
it
something
else
even
beyond
that?
What
level
of
regulation
we
would
be
subject
to
with
regard
to
the
public
service
commission?
What
has
the
public
service
commission
that's?
One
of
my
big
questions
is.
I
have
to
think
that
some
people
in
the
public
service
commission
have
been
aware
of
the
fact
that
some
municipalities
are
looking
at
this
and
then
the
question
is
what
is
their
role
and
how
much
they
potentially
create
additional
hoops
for
us
to
jump
through,
and
I
do
think
that
a
lot
of
that
is
stuff.
F
J
Something
I
would
be
comfortable
doing
I'll
add
that
I've
only
recreationally
followed
this
sort
of
thing,
but
I
know
the
public
services
commission
has
come
down
hard
on
charter
spectrum
in
the
past
in
new
york.
So
who
knows?
Maybe
there
is
some
appetite
for
a
little
bit
of
municipal
competition,
but
I
I
take
your
point.
That's
a
tough
knot.
B
Okay,
councilmember
valerian.
G
Thank
you,
and,
and
thank
you
for
taking
your
time
to
meet
with
us
today,
as
well
as
being
willing
to
volunteer
on
this
commission
my
question's,
a
simple
one
with
everything
you
have
going
on
in
your
life
and
your
other
responsibilities
and
your
other
commitments.
G
Are
you
able
to
make
this
a
priority,
even
though
it
is
a
volunteer
position?
It's
a
very
important
commission
that
we're
putting
together
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
can
attend
the
committees
to
commit
to
subcommittees
subcommittee,
subcommittees
the
informational
meetings
and
everything
else.
That
may
be
let
out
of
this
this
group,
and
is
that
something
you
think
you
can
balance
with
your
other.
J
Good
responsibility,
I
think
it
is.
I
am
very
sensitive
to
where
I
commit
my
spare
time
these
days
so
I'll,
give
you
the
login
short
and
say
that
my
job
is
pretty
flexible,
so
the
degree
that
there
are
meetings
that
are
during
business
hours.
That
would
be
perfectly
fine
for
me
to
attend,
but
absolutely
this
would
be
the
first
priority
for
my
spare
time.
You
know
the
I
guess
extracurricular
activities,
if
you
will
that
I'm
engaged
in
I'm
a
mediator.
Those
are
things
that
are
scheduled
around
around
other
things.
J
B
C
Again,
thank
you
for
applying
and
being
willing.
Excuse
me
being
willing
to
serve
on
the
commission.
Listening
to
you-
and
I
know
it
came
up,
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
have
you
know
somebody
with
the
law
background
who,
if
it
was
necessary,
would
be
able
to
do
the
research,
even
though
this
isn't
your
field
sort
of
that
you
would
be
able
to
do.
C
You
know
research
and
if
the
commission
needed
you
know
to
get
answers,
you'd
be
willing
to
do
that,
and
one
of
my
questions
was
but
but
councilman
ballerin
already
asked.
Would
you
be
able
to
have
the
time
so
I
you
know.
I
appreciate
that
that
you
signed
up.
I.
C
I
really
think
we
do
need
at
least
one
attorney
on
this
commission
and
I'll
have
to
look
at
the
you
know
who
applied
and
what
their
background
is,
and
you
know
thank
you
for
applying,
and
I
really
don't
have
any
questions,
because
you
pretty
much.
You
were
very
affluent.
You
explained
stuff
where
you
were
coming
from
and
I
think
having
that
personal
problem
with
the
internet,
you
understand
it
from
you
know
a
person
who
lives
in
the
city.
You
understand
what
the
problem
is.
So
thank
you.
J
I
dig
it.
I
am
trying
to
find
a
way
to
describe
this
about
myself
without
sounding
like
negative,
but
I
really
dig
research.
I'm
the
kind
that
likes
to
go
like
all
the
way
down
into
like
judy
is
laughing
because
you're
also
a
health
attorney.
Probably
it's
you
gotta,
go
all
the
way
into
the
regulation
to
make
sure
you
got
the
most
recent
thing,
so
that
is
definitely
in
my
skill
set.
I
can.
B
Okay,
caitlin,
do
you
have
any
questions
or
anything
else
you
wanted
to
share
with
the
committee.
J
I
don't
think
so.
You
know
I
took
a
good
look
at
that
report,
which
was
2015..
I
think
you
know.
My
sense
is
that
this
is
sort
of
the
next
step
in
the
process
for
kind
of
discovering
what
what
the
city
can
really
do.
I
think
probably
this
is
a
fertile
time
for
the
city.
Just
given
you
know,
I
know
that.
J
Money
available
from
the
feds,
but
also
there's
a
renewed
sense,
that
we
need
people
to
be
able
to
work
at
home
and
we'd
like
people
to
live
here,
but
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is
it's
less
than
the
can
we
do
this
or
what
could
the
city
do
conversation
but
more
in
the?
How
do
you
imagine
this
project
working
in
tandem
with
some
of
the
quality
of
life
organizations
we
have
around
like
the
bid
or,
like
other,
I
think,
of
downtown
bid?
J
I
think
the
lark
street
bed,
but
also
our
neighborhood
associations,
other
stakeholders
that
are
interested
in
making
this
a
nice
place
to
live.
It's
a
nice
place
to
live,
and
you
work
from
home
you're
here
a
lot
right.
So
I'm
curious
if
this
all
fits
in
together.
If
this
is
or
well.
If
that
piece
fits
in
with
this
committee
or
if
that's
further
down
the
road.
B
Oh
well,
I
you
know,
I
think,
that's
a
great
question
and
I'll
give
you
my
answer
to
that.
This.
Is
this
commission
that
we're
forming
really
has
an
opportunity
to
make
those
decisions?
I
mean,
if
you
think,
it's
important
to
engage.
You
know
our
our
other
civic
organizations
go
ahead.
I
mean
we
are
really
looking
for
you
folks
to
put
on
those
creative
caps
and
come
up
with
answers
here.
You
know
it's.
B
We
don't
have
the
answers
and
we're
we're
hoping
that
you
folks
can
pursue
some
of
those
possibilities
because
you're
right,
we
have
a
lot
of
resources
here
and
we're
to
want
the
input.
I
think
of
people
who
live
here
and
work
here
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
any
other
council
members
want
to
respond
to
that
at
all.
B
G
I
think
this
is
one
piece
of
many
pieces
that
we've
got
to
put
together
as
we
reimagine
our
city
and
what
we'd
like
to
see
it
and
how
we'd
like
to
see
it
move
forward
and
how
we
like
to
see
it
designed
and
redeveloped.
G
G
You
know,
based
on
what
we've
had
last
year
ahead,
you
no
longer
have
to
live
in
in
in
certain
settings
because
of
your
employment,
so
people
now
choose
where
they
want
to
live
here,
and
this
is
just
one
piece
of
many
other
pieces
that
we
need
to
put
together
to
make
our
city
competitive
as
we
look
to
the
future.
J
I
think
I'll,
add
that
I
know
only
enough
about
what
I'm
about
to
say
to
be
dangerous,
so
I
wouldn't
quote
me,
but
I
do
know
from
colleagues
of
mine
who
work
and
rent
space
downtown,
that
the
quality
of
even
the
commercial
internet
services
available
in
our
downtown
office
buildings
here
in
the
city
is
not
what
you
would
expect
that
it
is
not
that
high
and
it
is
you
know,
a
component
of
municipal
internet
I'd
have
to
wonder
if
it's
providing
some
kind
of
commercial
level
service
to
some
of
our
businesses
would
be
great
if
people
could
live
and
work
downtown.
J
I
imagine
there's
a
coming
vacancy
and
office
space
crisis.
That's
going.
I
think
I'm
seeing
this
in
my
job.
My
medical
office
space
is
a
different
animal,
but
I
think
it's
the
sense
that
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
vacant
commercial
space.
That's
just
too
large.
That
will
need
to
be
subdivided
so
it's
possible.
We
might
see
smaller
businesses
wanting
to
locate
downtown
it'd
be
great
if
there
were
a
high
quality
internet
that
we
could
offer
them
as
well.
But
who
knows
that
certainly
bears
more.
B
Research:
okay,
caitlyn.
We
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
taking
the
time
to
interview
for
this
position
very
much
appreciate
it
and
we'll
be
back
in
touch
with
you.
So
thank
you
again.
J
Thanks
for
having
me
and
thanks
for
what
you
all,
do,
have
a
good
night.
B
Okay
is
our
last
interviewee
is
lavonda,
collins
is
lavonda
here,
yeah.
D
E
E
C
F
Does
anybody
does
anybody
know
where
that
was?
Was
that
the
bottom
of
sheridan
avenue.
F
F
Right
and
and
like
the
the
area
that
reichman
and
hanson
down
warren
and
parked,
etc,
down
myrtle
myrtle
avenue
yeah
to
where
albany
met
is
yeah.
Each
one
of
those
streams
are
pretty
reliable
areas
to
still
expect
flooding.
F
At
least
yeah
sheridan
hollow
has
been
one
of
the
most
significant,
because
I
think
that,
unlike
some
of
these
other
streams
that
you
might
get
flooding
up
upstream,
a
little
bit
more
sheridan
hollow
is
pretty
much
a
a
straight
run
downhill
on
a
bit.
You
know
with
unabated.
F
And
they
did
do
a
lot
of
work
behind
the
albany
pump
station.
F
I
think
two
years
ago
that
was
supposed
to
help
with
that
and
they've
been
doing
digs
and
adding
in
different
stop
gap
measures,
but
continues
to
be
a
challenge.
I.
E
E
E
E
B
C
C
It's
a
great
game.
I
hope
he
gets
in.
He
starts
albany
high
next
in
september,
so
they
did
do
away
with
the
sports,
as
you
probably
know,
or
or
some
of
the
modified
so
we'll
see
what
happens.
C
E
C
Yeah
yeah,
the
things
are
open
up
there,
letting
them
you
know
having
to
wear
a
mask
during
the
game
is
very,
very
difficult
but
they're
loosening
up
on
that
now,
but
it's
taking
forever
and
actually
we
thought
he'd
go
to
school
on
monday
without
the
mask,
but
they
they
changed
their
mind.
They
said
now,
though,
he
can
go
outside
without
the
mass
yeah,
but
he's
had
his
first
vaccine
and
next
wednesday
he's
due
for
the
second
shot
so,
but
he's
already
had
copic
too.
So
you
know.
F
C
Yeah
he
had
no
symptoms,
he
was
just
you
know
the
whole
family,
myself,
my
wife
and
him.
You
know
I
was
the
first
one
the
university
detected
me
and
then
I
had
my
wife
and
him
tested
and
they
were
both
positive.
So
I'm
just
worried
about
this
new
variant
that
they're
talking
about.
I
think
it
came
from
india
and
they
said
it's
more.
It's
like
40
or
50
percent,
more
contagious
and
a
lot
rougher,
but
they
think
the
vaccine
will
work
on
it.
Yeah.
C
B
B
D
We
all
said
danielle,
sorry
to
interrupt.
Miss
collins
will
not
be
joining
us
tonight,
so
I
guess
we
could
begin
the
deliberation
process
for
the
candidates
that
have
come
before
the
council.
B
Okay,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
go
into
can.
F
I
get
just
get
clarification,
is
it
that
she
was
having
technical
difficulties
with
the
video,
and
can
we
interview
her
just
via
audio
or
is
it
that.
D
I
would
normally
be
setting
all
of
that
up
behind
the
scenes,
but
we
were
having
a
conversation
that
that
I'll
disclose.
Maybe
once
we
go
into
executive
session,
if
the
motion
happens
or
I
can
send
the
email
offline.
F
C
C
On
the
second
on
the
motion
to
go
to
executive
session,
okay.
B
That
motion
is
to
go
into
executive
session
to
discuss
the
appointment
of
various
individuals
to
the
municipal
internet,
internet
commission
and
tom
you've
seconded
it.
C
B
B
All
right,
our
interviews
are
completed
for
tonight
and
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
your
participation
and
I'd
like
a
motion
to
adjourn.
B
Okay
motion
by
alfredo,
second
by
tom
holland,
all
in
favor,
okay,
thank
you.
Everyone.