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A
We
have
two
pieces
of
legislation
to
discuss
and
the
first
one
that
I
think
we
I'd
like
to
start
with
is
ordinance
1371
19
and
that
is
an
ordinance
amending
chapter
375
code
of
the
city
of
Albany
us
do
changing
the
zoning
classifications
of
140
Hamilton,
Street
42
and
44
Phillip
Street
from
townhouse
RT
to
mixed
use,
neighborhood
center,
mu,
NC
and
amending
the
zoning
map.
Okay,
at
invite
commissioners
Spencer
up
and
carp,
council
and
Amy
line
up
to
in
the
discussion
of
the
zone,
change.
B
So
these
are
properties
that
I
know.
Brad
glass
means
looking
at
the
map.
Early
on
had
looked
at
doing
something
a
little
bit
different,
but
there
was
more
house
basically
I
think
he
was
unsure
whether
anybody's
ever
gonna
do
anything
at
the
building,
and
there
were
some
provisions
in
the
RT
for
some
some
uses
other
than
residential.
B
But
this
disappears
that
there's
a
use
that
that
seems
favorable
to
the
area,
it's
an
artist
and
consume
would
be
considered
artisan
manufacturing,
which
is
not
allowed
under
the
RT,
and
so
this
is
the
lowest
classification
that
an
artist
artists
manufacturing
would
be
allowed
so,
rather
than
jumping
two
or
three
classifications
up,
so
we
think
it's
appropriate.
It's
just
an
extension
of
the
existing
map
and
the
adjacent
selling
classification,
so
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
one
for
both
that
area
and
for
that
building
those
parcels
and.
C
D
C
B
D
B
C
C
B
It's
not
based
on
a
particular
yeah
I
mean.
Obviously
we
look
at
what's
what's
before
is
what
we
also
look
at
a
longer
term
this
year.
What
you
know
and
let's
say
whatever
use,
goes
in
there
doesn't
work.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
viability
and
other
uses
for
that
building,
so
it
just
is
one
use,
may
not
work
out
that
there's
other
options
so.
E
E
We
could
have
a
different
application
in
there
for
a
different
kind
of
business.
It.
You
know
if,
if
this
particular
developer
decides
not
to
move
forward
with
this
particular
project,
and
you
can
have
every
you
know,
hey
it's
going
to
or
you
know
something
happens,
two
or
three
years
from
now
ever
he
gave
it
a
try.
Then
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
it
is
kind
of
like
a
general
kind
of
commercial
kind
of
strip.
E
The
street
from
residential
property
mm-hmm
so
having
us,
be
around
the
corner
from
you
know
this
is
you
know
not
so
unusual.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
are
thinking
about
in
there's
a
lot
of
context,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
think
in
terms
of
not
just
this
particular
proposed
use,
but
make
sure
we
understand
what
then
other
uses
I
mean
potentially
those
buildings.
This
series
of
buildings
could
be
torn
down
and
you
could
have
something
that
is
four
or
five
stories
and
you
know
other.
A
D
D
E
B
B
F
C
I
did
receive
to
receive
one
call
and
I
met
a
gentleman
at
a
concert,
and
he
approached
me,
and
it
was
the
same
day
that
I've
received
the
calls
he
you
know
at
first.
He
was
they.
They
have
some
questions
about
it
and
when
I
had
the
conversation
with
the
gentleman
Robert,
another
fall,
it
ended
in
I
had
the
gentleman
who
was
going
to
be
put
in
the
made
me
teary
in
their
column
and
Robert
called
me
back
10
minutes
later
and
had
no
problems
with
it.
C
In
fact,
he
worked
on
the
state
wall
that
this
has
gone
through
on
the
build-up,
so
the
two
people
that
had
problems
with
it
they
signed
off
on
it
once
they
had
a
conversation
at
the
gentleman
and
fully
understood
that
it
was
a
what
you
know
it
was
going
to
be
wine
tasting.
It
wasn't
going
to
be
in
the
direction
that
they
thought
he
was
gone.
It's
going
to
be
more
of
a
restaurant,
and
just
people
have
an
opportunity
to
see
the
process
of
that.
A
C
A
B
Very
very
exciting
piece
of
legislation
not
really,
but
this
came
about,
obviously,
partly
because
of
the
FEC
rulings
that
provide
a
very
narrow
interpretation
and
very
narrow
ability
of
cities
and
towns
to
deal
with
five
gene
or
small
small
wireless
facilities
within
the
public
right-of-way.
So
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
options
where
we
can
just
say
no
blanketly
or
things
like
that.
One
of
the
tools
they
did
provide
was
the
aesthetic
standards.
B
So
they
said
you
can
judge
these
and
within
reasonable
aesthetic
standards,
and
so
I
looked
at
a
number
of
cities
throughout
the
country
and
I
looked
at
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
the
past
here
in
the
city
of
Albany,
and
tried
to
write
some
aesthetic
standards
that
I
thought
dealt
with
them
in
the
best
way.
Boston
does
a
lot
of
things
where
what
they
do
is
they
try
to
co-locate
these
all
on
decorative
street
lamps
and
they
end
up
looking
every
design,
I
saw
looked
horrible
and
looked
like
just
a
bizarre.
B
You
know
like
a
street
lamp
on
steroids
and,
as
we
are
entering
into
owning
our
own
street
lamps,
what
we
didn't
want
to
do
is
complicate
our
ownership
of
our
streetlights
with
technology
that
is
probably
going
to
be
changing
pretty
quickly
and
have
to
deal
with
additional
carriers.
And
things
like
that,
and
so
we
opted
to
sort
of
more
I,
have
to
put
that
one
as
one
the
least
preferred
alternatives,
obviously,
rather
see
them
on
an
existing
location.
B
So
we
sort
of
set
this
up
and
kind
of
talking
about
those
purposes
really
and
purpose
is
number
one
to
protect
the
aesthetic
qualities
within
the
city
of
Albany
to
reduce
the
amount
of
clutter
of
holes
and
things
like
that
along
the
street
front.
Sort
of
minimize
that
and
really
just
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
a
standard
and
streamline
approach.
B
So
we
didn't
want
to
try
to
be
so
restrictive,
but
we
were
I
think
about
as
restrictive
in
a
in
the
siting
and
aesthetic
standards
that
I
think
we
could
be,
but
I
think
that
it
was
a
reasonable
approach
and
we
try
to
provide
sort
of
the
same
framework
that
we
have
in
the
u.s.
do
where
some
of
these
things
could
be
done
with
an
administrative
adjustment.
So
some
of
the
things
we've
done
in
here.
So
if
we
have
let's
say,
there's
decorative
street
lamps
along
the
street
frontage.
B
What
we
did
want
to
see
was
one
of
these
located
right
next
to
one
of
these,
so
it
had
to
be
sort
of
that
midpoint
between
those
poles.
So
we're
not
sort
of
crowding.
It
can't
be
closer
to
an
intersection
and
what
we
didn't
want
to
see.
It
was
these
things
right
in
front
of
somebody's
house
or
in
front
of
a
business
in
front
of
a
storefront,
and
things
like
that.
So
we
outlined
that
they
have
to
be
sort
of
a
bad
extension
of
a
property
line
along
that
frontage.
B
So
once
they
go
through
this
process
and
if
they
are
unable
to
conform
to
any
of
these
they're,
they
would
be
denied
and
then
their
appeal
would
be
to
the
BCA
okay,
so
that's
more
or
less
how
this
works,
but
before
they
could
even
apply
for
this,
they
would
have
to
have
a
right-of-way
access
permit
with
the
city
or
right-of-way
access
agreement,
and
so
the
law
department
worked
with
my
side
counsel
as
well
drafting
this
to
make
sure
that
we
had
sort
of
a
template
for
these
right-of-way.
We
do
have
one
of
these.
That's
existing.
A
B
What
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we're
treating
all
the
carriers
the
same
way.
We
do
have
one
with
X
the
net
right
now,
and
you
know
we're
hoping
that
some
of
the
things
and
the
reasons
that
we're
gonna
be
denying
some
of
their
applications
may
force
them
back
to
the
table,
because
I
think
this
will
probably
be
better
for
them.
A
B
G
B
So
I
think
it's
you
know,
I
think
we
really
try
to
lay
this
the
aesthetic
standards
out
in
a
logical
manner.
It's
the
requirements
are
not
easy.
It's
not
gonna
be
easy
for
somebody
just
to
pick
a
location
and
say
we're
gonna
put
a
facility
right
here
mm-hmm
because
of
all
of
the
other
requirements
within
this
and
that's
not
to
say
we're,
trying
to
stop
them,
but
we
want
to
protect
property
owners.
We
want
to
protect
businesses,
gonna
do
the
best
we
can
to
protect
the
city
and
the
aesthetics
of
the
city.
A
This
is
its
I,
don't
know
if
other
people
feel
this
way.
But
it's
to
me
it's,
like
you,
know
the
unknown
in
a
lot
of
you
know
just
it's
coming,
it's
it.
There's
gonna
be
more
of
them
and
the
placement
of
them
it's
hard
to
really
think
about.
What's
you
know,
with
the
impact
of
some
of
these
standards
that
you've
got
and
because
we
haven't
really
I
mean
we've
seen
a
couple
of
them
yeah
well,.
B
E
E
B
B
D
B
D
B
H
B
A
B
Think
we
pick
and
choose,
you
know
who
goes
where
that's
gonna
be
more
or
less
up
to
the
carrier's
about
what
we
do.
Is
we
separate
how
close
they
can
be?
So
if
we
have
an
application
from
one
carrier
and
they
picked
this
location,
somebody
else
can't
then
locate
right
next
to
it
or
within
that
area
or.
A
E
E
Have
some
basic
questions
about
what's
before
us?
We
have
an
ordinance
before
us,
so
I
want
to
say,
as
a
result
of
this
resident
frameless
to
my
attention
and
my
reading,
someone
stuff
and
they
come.
You
know
about
this
and
some
of
the
challenges
I'm
very
supportive
of
us
doing
something
about
this.
But
my
understanding
is
that
these
standards
are
what
was
before
the
Planning
Board
and
that's
what
was
presented
to
them
and
that's
what
they
approved.
Well,.
B
I
think
there's
two
ways
you
can
do
this:
you
could
reference
these
standards
in
the
ordinance
you
know,
so
this
could
be
something
that
goes
within
the
US.
Do
the
references,
the
aesthetic
standards
and
the
aesthetic
standards
can
stay
outside
of
that
making
you
changed
a
little
easier.
We
need
to
to
protect
certain
things
or
this
could
get
incorporated
into
the
USDA.
E
D
B
E
E
Into
it,
I
just
assumed
that
this
was
then
going
to
be
some
hair
weather,
since
it's
a
zoning
text
amendment
that
it
was
going
to
be
put
into
an
ordinance
for
important,
you
know
that
happens.
So
I
was
a
little
surprised.
I
was
a
little
surprised
when
we
got
this
ordinance.
That
really
doesn't
include
some
details.
All
right,
so
that's
helpful.
So.
B
G
B
A
E
D
E
D
E
Then
of
course,
I'm
an
attorney
who
has
done
these
in
corporations
by
reference
and
and
generally
so
that
this
ordinance
that
we
have
before
us,
I
and
I
guess
a
me
to
some
extent.
This
is
a
question
for
you:
I
I'm,
used
to
the
courts,
not
supporting
regulatory
authority.
That
is
as
broad
as
this.
If
then,
we
want
to
get
this
specific
without
having
like
us,
adopt
standards.
D
E
Enumerated
them
so
the
unit's.
So
the
other
thing
is
from
my
years
at
the
Department
of
Health.
If
you
want
to
reference
another
document,
they
require
at
the
state
level
under
the
State
Administrative
Procedure
Act.
We
just
doesn't
necessarily
apply
here,
but
I
think
that
there's
some
Constitution
notice
requirements
etc.
That
kind
of
do
sort
of
overlap,
and
they
require
you
to
cite
a
particular
version
of
some
regulation
or
you
know,
or
some
document
you
know
and
say:
okay,
you
know
as
existing.
You
know
on
that
particular
date.
E
G
E
G
I'd
be
happy
to
I.
Have
it's
been
a
few
weeks
since
I
looked
them
over,
but
I
have
read
through
them
all
and
I
have
read
through
all
the
FCC
regulations
etc
and
there's
nothing.
That
strikes
me
immediately,
as
you
know,
something
to
call
your
attention
to,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
give
them
another
look
through,
and
polish
language
I.
B
B
Adjustments
we
tried
to
keep.
You
know
consistent
with
what
other
parts
of
the
USDA
would
have.
You
know
again,
it
does
not
allow
me
to
suddenly
just
break
all
the
rules,
but
again,
if
you're,
10%
and
5%
whatever
off,
rather
than
sending
it
to
the
BCA
clogging
up
their
agenda,
it
does
give
a
little
bit
of
discretion.
That
was
pretty
careful
to
keep
that
discretion
variable
because
in
the
end,
yeah
I
don't
want
to
be
in
the
position
where
I'm
approving
one
of
these
things
Brighton
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
somebody's
property.
B
A
A
E
A
D
E
E
Yeah,
can
they
locate
these
things
on
people's
houses
if
they
had
agreement
and
and
do
we
include
anything
that
allows
that
in
here,
yeah.
B
B
C
B
B
B
E
Yeah,
like
quail
Street,
somebody
pointed
out
to
me:
you
know
this
one
building
and
they
they're
putting
like
six
holes
into
the
brick
foundation
of
this
building.
That
is,
you
know,
working-class
row
house.
It
was
built
as
a
working-class
warehouse
but
could
potentially
look
nicer
than
it
does
and
now
it's
like
you.
E
B
I
B
Back
I
can't
retroactively,
Lee
hold
things
down.
Okay,
there
was
one
one
in
particular
I
think
it
was
on
Marion
and
Upton
Road.
It
was
a
pole
that
went
in
and
it
was
for
one
of
the
extranet
locations
and
so
then
I
you
and
at
that
point
all
of
those
were
going
through
engineering
and
I
talked
to
Gary
bull.
As
you
know,
where
did
this
come
from?
It's
like?
Well,
it
was
approved
and
I
looked
at
the
permit
and
the
application
as
well.
B
I
So
I
got
one
200
feet
from
my
house,
and
I
was
asking
that
and
when
the
guys
were
putting
it
in
I,
went
over
and
taught
them
but
and
I'm
in
telecommunications.
You
know
I'm
like
what
is
this
and
they
wouldn't
talk
to
me
yeah,
but
the
pole
and
I
guess
they
have
another
question
about
the
permit
process.
The
pole
is
actually
now
leaning
over.
They
have
this
huge
thing.
On
top
of
the
pole,
they
put
a
electric
meter
pump,
so
they
can
do
it.
I
A
B
D
G
I
And
see
what
it
says:
don't
want
to
go
back
to
with
the
permit,
because
you
know
and
again
this
it's
for
a
personal
reason.
The
poll
had
woodpeckers
were
on
it
and
put
big
holes
near
the
bottom,
and
I
pointed
this
out
to
the
guys.
I
said
this
pole
is
not,
and
they
said
no
National
Grid
said
we
can
put
it
here.
This
is
so.
Is
that
something
do
they
get
a
permit
from
like
working?
The
joy
put.
B
That
stuff
up
they
haven't
been.
You
know
these
attachment
agreements
with
National
Grid
have
been
runs
somewhat
separately.
Well,
this
is
an
attempt
to
just
try
the
Kathy
or
some
of
those
okay,
at
least
I.
Think
that
would
be
very
and
you'll
see.
One
of
the
things
we
did
put
in
this
is
trying
to
prevent
some
of
those
double
poles.
So
in.
B
Did
that
here
was
just
to
say,
you
know
if
you're,
if
National
Grid
or
whoever
is
putting
a
new
pole
and
you're.
Locating
on
that
pole,
we're
not
going
to
give
you
a
final
sign-off
until
the
existing
pole
is
removed,
even
though
they
may
have
no
ability
to
do
that.
They're
gonna,
put
pressure
on
the
other
carriers
so
and,
and
I
spoke
to
the
National
Grid
two
days
ago
on
the
double
pole
stuff
and
it
is,
you
know
it
still,
the
last
carrier
off
that
pole,
it's
responsible
for
removing
it
last
utility.
B
And
so
what
they
do
is
they'll
start
with
the
primary
they
move
the
primaries
over.
They
cut
cut
the
existing
pole
below
the
primaries,
and
then
they
move
the
second
there,
and
then
it
cut
it
down
below
that
and
then
it
might
be
cable
or
Verizon
or
whoever
else
is
left,
and
none
of
them
are
in
a
hurry
to
move
it
over.
There's
now
they're
responsible,
then
to
remove
that
pole.
D
E
B
B
H
H
I
One
of
the
things
I
heard
is
the
they
want
some
cable,
the
cable
franchise
for
cable
TV
that
it's
right
now,
it's
just
spectrums
and
you
would
have
to
include
horizon
in
there
and
there's
some
kind
of
a
tie-up
of
that
and
I.
Remember.
Jerry
Jennings
had
a
call
in
it
because
I
was
I
was
told
to
call
in
and
he
talked
about
it
and.
D
F
D
I
B
E
A
D
A
D
B
D
E
C
B
D
A
E
E
B
E
E
E
E
And
Richard
is
in
terms
of
if
you're
drafting
something
Richard
is
really
good
at
eyeballing,
something
to
make
sure
that
you're
getting
it
in
the
right
format
and
thanks
Richard
Pouncy
yeah
cuz.
He
worked
for
the
legislature
lawfully
drafting
legislation,
Ferb
and
I
have
some
experience,
I
actually.
E
E
A
E
Right
the
basis
is
there,
and
it
should
be
all
that
challenging,
but
because
there
there
is
so
many
details
in
this.
It
is
like
12
pages
that
it's
a
lot
of
diving
your
eyes
and
that
kind
of
thing.