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Description
The Committee discussed Resolution 25.52.19 As Amended (Anane) that urge the Albany Police Department’s Division of Traffic Safety to include pedestrian signaling regardless of whether or not a walk signal is requested at the intersection.
A
Okay,
sir,
welcome
everyone.
This
is
the
September
26
meeting
of
the
planning
councils
planning
and
economic
development
committee
committee
members
present,
Judy
Joe,
Shea,
Derek,
Johnson
and
myself
happy
baby.
Other
council
members
present
president
pro
tempore
Conti
and
council
member
ellisa
inany.
A
We
are
here
to
discuss
resolution
25
52:19.
Our
resolution
of
the
Common
Council
recognizes
the
importance
of
walkability
throughout
the
city
and
calling
on
the
Albany
Police
Department's
Traffic
Safety
Division,
to
adopt
a
policy
ensuring
that
pedestrian
signals
are
automatically
included
whenever
traffic
signals
are
changed,
upgraded
or
installed.
A
Okay,
why
don't?
We
start
with
first
I
want
to
invite
and
we
have
red
glass
from
the
planning
department
and
Bill
Trudeau
and
tomato
Gipson
from
Albany
Police
Department
only,
but
you
all
to
come
on
up
and
have
a
seat
because
we'll
have
a
discussion.
Anyone
who
hopes
to
speak
tonight
will
have
public
comment
a
little
bit
later
and
only
a
few
people
so
well
welcome.
Folks.
B
Thank
you
a
couple
of
months
ago,
a
friend
of
mine,
actually
who
was
with
the
local
neighborhood
organization,
but
this
to
my
attention,
did
some
research
at
least
to
how
we
can
improve
walkability
here
in
the
city
of
Albany,
and
this
was
one
of
the
ways
that
we,
the
term
today,
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
to
address
some
of
the
lack
of
walkability
that
exists.
That
may
take
away
that
deficit,
which
should
be
a
part
of
every
line
segments
cycle,
a
pair
of
practice
and
disable
all
pedestrian
signals.
B
Until
someone
pushes
a
boy
which
does
go
extinct
behavior
and
makes
walking
less
safe,
you
know
what
a
bigger
step
we
want
to
push
here
in
the
city
of
Albany
is
to
promote
walkability
all
across
the
city
of
Albany
and
there's
a
growing
interest
for
people
to
want
to
move
into
our
city
and
particularly
in
the
downtown
neighborhoods.
We
need
to
be
focused
on
pedestrian
infrastructure
to
ensure
that
these
new
residents
will
have
the
option
to
walk
to
their
destination.
B
Turn
off
the
pedestrian
signals
by
before
is
in
hurry,
anti
pedestrian
and
serve
only
to
the
storage
walking
on
together
and
most
people,
sometimes
particularly
on
Madison,
actually
Washington
and
Locke
individual
Kuwait.
There
forever,
even
though
there's
a
pedestrian
push
button
that
helps
individuals
cross
the
street,
they
typically
don't
push.
It
sometimes
encourage
jaywalking,
and
we
have
seen
several
incidents
of
accidents
that
have
taken
place
so.
C
D
B
B
B
C
F
E
B
B
B
H
A
E
A
E
B
A
B
Does
grab
lemons
them
and
then
we
could
just
take
it
from
there
again.
This
is
a
breathing
little
document
and
I
was
open
to
having
amendments
made
when
necessary
again,
whatever
that
it
will
take
to
move
this
legislation
forward,
I'm
open
to
it,
but
that's
the
gist
of
this
legislation
to
encourage
more
capability.
Very
too
often,
sometimes,
when
you
get
to
a
traffic
signal,
what.
B
The
individual
will
have
to
wait
and
press
apply
it
before
they
can
cross
the
street
this
legislation.
Sometimes
when
you
look
at
a
traffic
signal
that
will
go
through
one
traffic
signal
cycle
and
then,
if
someone
doesn't
press
the
backgrounds,
it
will
still
continue
the
flow
of
traffic.
So
we
try
to
eliminate
it.
Instead
of
having
to
press
the
back
button
to
cross
the
street,
we
wanted
to
have
a
walkway
for
a
walk
walking
for
signaling
for
pedestrian,
okay.
A
I
Where
there
are
pedestrians,
there's
also
a
vehicle
detection,
so
we
run
a
coordinated
signal
system,
which
means
we
are
trying
to
move
traffic
through
the
corridor,
which
is
Madison
Avenue.
For
instance,
that's
the
newest
one.
We've
worked
on,
so
we
have
Madison
Avenue
we're
trying
to
move
a
platoon
of
traffic
vehicle
traffic
through
the
corridor,
keep
everything
flowing
and
prevent
long
queues
mm-hmm.
We
do
that
through
vehicle
detection
and
pedestrian
push
buttons
and
we
push
buttons
are
necessary
again
because
we're
holding
in
green
time
to
get
across
the
street
to
go
down.
I
Madison,
Avenue
or
up
Madison
Avenue
the
side
streets
have
a
vehicle
detector
that
detects
when
a
vehicle
comes
into
a
field
and
send
a
signal
to
the
signal
controller
to
service
the
side
street.
When
there's
a
vehicle
there
and
not
a
pedestrian
and
the
button
has
not
been
pressed,
so
we're
going
to
assume
there's,
not
a
pedestrian.
We
can
short
depending
upon
the
number
of
vehicles
on
the
side
street.
I
We
can
run
the
side
street
green,
very
short,
depending
upon
the
number
of
vehicles
and
if
another
vehicle
comes
in,
we
can
incrementally
increase
that
time
up
to
a
maximum
amount
of
time
and
that's
based
on
a
cycle
length.
We
try
to
run
our
signals
as
short
in
a
cycle
length
as
possible,
but
that's
also
volume
derived
when
there's
a
pedestrian
at
the
intersection
and
they
press
the
button
to
cross
the
street.
I
We
provide
sufficient
amount
of
time
to
get
all
the
way
across
the
roadway,
which
also
gives
a
long
amount
of
green
time
to
the
vehicle
as
well.
We
have
to
by
law,
provide
an
initial
time
of
seven
seconds.
Oh
I
mean
five
to
seven
seconds
of
walk.
Where
that
the
person
indication
comes
on
and
then
based
on
the
roadway
width,
we
have
to
provide
3.5
feet
per
second
to
get
all
the
way
across
the
road,
so
that
number
changes
based
on
the
geometry
of
the
intersection.
I
If
we
were
to
go
and
turn
all
of
our
signals,
turn
off
the
buttons
which
also
have
some
information
to
them,
the
newer
buttons
on
Madison
Avenue.
If
you
press
them,
they
have
a
locator
tone
for
the
visually
impaired
and
if
you
press
them
they'll
say
wait
if
you
press
and
hold
they
actually
in
enunciate
the
street
that
that
button
is
tied
to
so
it'll
say:
Madison
Avenue,
where
Robin
Streeter
in
Scotland
Avenue,
whatever
the
case
you
press
and
hold
for
3
seconds
and
goes
from
there.
I
If
we
were
to
eliminate
that
we
would
around
a
clock
24
hours
a
day
whether
there
was
a
vehicle
or
a
pedestrian
waiting
across
the
road
we
would
have
to.
The
signal
would
be
continuously
cycling,
so
that
progression
that
we
talked
about
in
the
beginning
of
trying
to
move
vehicles
through
the
corridor
would
go
away
and.
I
D
A
D
I
I
Pedestrian
signals,
there
is
a
button.
We
have
some
older
technology
that
there
are
not
pedestrian
signals.
We
are
not
using
vehicle
detection
and
the
signals
change
and
we
do
from
time
to
time
get
people
calling
saying
you
know
they're
stopping
for
no
apparent
reason.
Why
are
we
stopping
so
we
do
here
that
ain't.
C
I
Clearly,
working
we're
not
saying
we're
opposed
to
anything.
We
just
want
to
examine
it
further.
To
make
sure
whatever
we're
going
to
do
is
the
right
approach
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
whether
that
be
someone
on
foot
or
a
bicycle
or
a
motor
vehicle.
So
we
still
have
a
lot
of
everything.
I
mean
there's,
there's
still
a
lot
of
cars.
I
I
With
we
do
have
an
informative
signs
at
every
intersection.
That
explains
what
that
is.
There
are
a
number
of
psays
right
now
that
the
governor's
Traffic
Safety
Office
and
the
New
York
State
Department
of
Health,
are
involved
with
our
agency
was
involved
and
putting
some
of
those
together.
They
were
filmed
here
in
the
city,
so
that
information
is
is
either
out
of
coming
out.
They
have
a
number
of
them
that
they're
working
on
there
are
initiatives
at
the
federal
and
state
levels
for
pedestrian
safety.
I
We've
worked
on
this,
but
we
just
don't
word
it
a
project
ourselves
with
vestry
and
safety
and
we're
working
on
getting
a
consultant
on
board
for
that
federal
aid,
pedestrian
safety
program
that
we
went
through
and
talked
about
back
in
March
done
bonding,
so
that
we
just
received
five
bullets
from
firms
that
were
reviewing
that
to
get
them
on
board
this
fall.
So
we
have
a
lot
going
on
pedestrian
safety,
we're
committed
to
it.
We
will
you
know,
that's
that's
our
job,
but
it's
all
it's
not
just
pedestrian
disease.
It's
Traffic
Safety!
A
Isn't
we
picked
when
we
passed
the
complete
street
ordinance
in
2013
looking
at
design
elements,
including
pedestrian
crossing
signals
as
part
of
that
correct?
But
but
you
would
look
at
them
on
an
individual
basis
like
I'm
Madison
Avenue,
some
of
the
main
arterials
I
would
think
it
gets
important
it
at
certain
times
of
the
day
to
keep
traffic
moving.
I
D
I
I
You
can
you
run
them
at
you,
run
different
methods
during
the
day
for
different
parts
of
the
city.
Folks
are
there's
either
an
expectation
or
not
to
do
this.
They
push
the
button
or
don't
push
the
button
plus,
it's
not
just
us.
It's
you
know.
All
of
our
surrounding
communities
are
operating
exactly
the
same
way,
we're
operating
right
now
and
in
the
city
we
don't
operate.
All
of
the
traffic
signals.
New
York,
State,
Department
transportation
operates
a
large
number
at
a
fair
amount
between
35
and
40
signals.
I
It
could
lead
to
confusion.
You
want
definitely
one
consistency.
There
was
a
you
know,
people
to
remember.
There
was
thought
the
route
5
had
estrine
see
if
you
studying
when
there
was
a
large
number
of
fatalities,
typically
out
of
the
city,
I
think
we
may
have
had
one,
but
the
majority
of
them
work
in
colony
and
Niskayuna.
I
They
went
through
there
and
one
of
the
items
that
they
came
out
of.
That
study
was
not
only
to
put
pedestrian
buttons
in,
but
put
them
in
with
a
feedback
indicator.
So
when
you
press
the
button,
you
actually
know
that
the
the
call
has
been
sent
kind
of
like
an
elevator
where
you
push
the
button
and
it
lights
up
same
principle.
So
all
the
way
up
route,
5
and
then
we've
carried
that
now
into
New
Scotland
Washington
Western
avenues.
Those
are
the
most
recent
ones.
I
We
do
know
that
if
you
come
up
at
the,
if
the
pedestrian
signal
has
just
come
on
and
shut
off,
and
you
walk
up
and
press
the
button,
you
do
have
to
wait
for
the
time
to
come
all
the
way
back
around
again
and
so
that
some
of
the
larger
intersections
it
can
be
a
couple
of
minutes.
We're
running
some
of
our
larger
intersections
because
of
all
of
the
turn
movements
we're
running
the
signals
at
somewhere
around
130
to
135
seconds
total
time
at
the
intersection.
So
it's.
A
F
B
B
B
Don't
have
a
discussion
about
this
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
where's.
It
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
Common
Council
calls
on
the
Albany
Police
Department
division
of
traffic
and
safety
to
enforce
and
expand
its
policy
to
ensure
that
the
pedestrian
signals
are
included
as
part
of
every
traffic
signal
cycle
in
intersections
where
pedestrians
can
be
expected
to
be
present,
regardless
of
as
a
presser.
B
B
G
B
B
C
F
F
I
B
I
D
D
We
need
the
resolution
if,
if
he's
a
to
look
at
this
and
and
we're
gonna,
try
and
wordsmith
this
document
to
take
into
consideration
a
variety
of
potentialities,
yeah,
I'm
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
what
we
are
asking
them
to
above
and
beyond
what
their
have
agreed
to
do
and
how
you
and
how
you've
worked.
Some
of
that
didn't
II
and
I
want
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about.
D
D
You
know
this
resolution
can
be
read
as
requiring
that
to
be.
You
know
that
to
be
occurring
and
I,
don't
and
I,
don't
think
that
that's
what
we
want
I
think
I
think
essentially
we're
saying:
let's
continue
to
have
this
dialogue
and
let's
look
at
specific
locations,
and
let's
have
people
talk
to
you
about
specific
locations
where
it
may
be
appropriate
to
have
the
cycle
on
cycle
off
without
regard
to
people
pushing
pedestrian
activates
button.
Part
of
my
concern
is
the
conversation
being
about
potentially
eliminating
pedestrian
buttons.
A
Is,
for
example,
there's
this
in
the
in
the
complete
street
manual
there's
a
set
of
guidelines
and
a
kind
of
a
checkoff
sheet.
What's
going
through
it,
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that
or
know
there
are
areas
where
you
could
add.
You
know
at
the
pedestrian
that
says
using
the
phone
list
check
all
complete
street
elements
that
exist
within
the
project
area.
Record
quantities
is
applicable.
One
of
them
is
pedestrian
control
signals
but
mix,
but
there.
B
Areas-
that's
already
in
it.
It's
another
public
note
that
we're
passionate
about
making
the
city
a
walkable
city.
So
that's
why
I
have
this
resolution
as
a
living
document
that
to
support
the
completion
initiative?
That's
the
reason
why
I
introduced
this
resolution
to
let
the
public
know
that
US
has
kama
council
members.
We
have
concern
this
and
we
would
like
to
see
the
city
become.
B
D
C
D
Just
we
just
had
an
issue
in
which
you
know
we
learned
that
the
you
know
our
brochure
is
not
being
published
in
it
in
a
union
shop.
Now,
there's
a
Code
provision
that
Richard
point
out
to
us
that
requires
all
of
our
printing
to
be
done
in
a
union
shop
now.
Should
we
now
adopt
a
resolution
that
now
reinforces
that
particular.
D
Well,
and
and
I
and
I
feel
like
there
are
ordinances
on
the
books.
I
mean
somebody's
got
to
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
ordinances
that
are
on
the
books
that
make
no
sense
whatsoever
and
that
are
just
absolute
and
inconsistent
with
state
law
and
internally,
inexistent,
etc.
So
you
know
I
just
wonder:
what's
the
best
use
of
our
time.
H
Just
think
about
a
bike:
you
know
people
are
in
a
fury
because
they
lost
traffic
lanes
to
the
pipelines
now
South
Pearl
Street.
They
just
announced
that
they're
going
to
put
a
bike
lane
man
in
there
taking
parking
spaces
away
from
an
area
where
you're
not
well-
and
you
know
already
it's
a
shortage
of
parking
down
there.
So
now
they're
action
people
to
park
on
the
hill,
so.
C
H
H
I
think
that
if
anything,
we
should
draw
attention
to
the
push
buttons
because
they
work,
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
make
changes
for
new
folks
that
come
to
our
city
and
forget
about
the
people
that
are
in
our
city,
remap.
So
I
don't
really
see
you
know
at
certain
times
of
day
the
traffic
with
the
state
workers
company
on
Madison
Ave.
It
seems
like
it
works.
Well,
I,
don't
I'm
not
over
there
all
the
time.
What
I
don't
want
to
happen
is
that
we
open
up.
H
H
You
know
when
I
hear
people's
response
about
the
bike
right
and
you
know
and
I
was
in
a
bike
guy
at
first,
but
I
do
see
people
I
see
more
uses
of
it
now
so
I
can
understand,
but
you
know
it's
hard
to
explain
to
a
person
of
it
in
the
600
block
of
South
Pearl
Street.
You
know
the
need
of
a
bike
lane
when
they
already
have
to
share
it
with
18
wheelers
going
through
constantly.
So
you
know
here
we
are
saying
we're.
Gonna
have
people
crossing
the
street
and
you
know
that.
That's
that's!
H
That's
a
lot
so
at
this
think
that
sometimes
we
down
the
road
is
things
that
come
up
that
are
really
problematic.
We
make
these.
You
know
permanent
changes
if
we
have
a
high
travel
I,
think
that
so
on
I'm
here
it's
consideration
of
you
already
taken
out
I,
hear
computer
assistance,
so
I
just
think
that
if
each
other
flattens
out
totally
what
about
people
who
are
used
to
the
buttons
they
they
may
feel
people
sigh
compared
and
things
like
that,
they
may
feel
a
little
bit
less
safe.
H
B
B
And
I'm,
not
if
you
don't
affect
that's
fine.
Also,
like
that's
lazy,
like
the
bank
by
this,
you
want
to
pay
the
difference,
push
buttons,
you
know.
Sometimes
they
require
maintenance,
simply
turn
it
on
the
signals.
Regular,
that's
easier
and
it's
much
cheaper
bank
runs
also
often
an
assessment
during
the
winter
ones.
Due
to
the
snow,
sometimes
miss
the
visibility
aspect
of
it.
It's
not
possible.
Another
thing,
too,
is
that
there
are
individuals
who
don't
want
to
touch
the
bank
ones.
That's
another
public
seem
to
conserve
it.
B
Most
people
have,
instead
of
just
touching
the
button
to
wait
for
the
signal
to
you
know,
but
then
the
cross
thing
just
sometimes
just
disregarded
it.
Just
dream,
walk,
and
also
too,
when
you
think
about,
and
my
colleague
to
Senate
has
released
Elaine,
disabled
individuals
and
elderly
and
children
being
able
to
have
the
access
to
reach
for
the
bank
runs
the
orphanage
thoughts
so
far
from
the
crosses
and
that
pedestrians
must
take
several
steps.
I
think
that's
another
concern,
particularly
people
in
the
wheelchair
that
I
travel
in
this
city-
and
you
know,
I,
hear
this.
B
This
is
really
hard
for
some
people
and
inconvenience
for
everyone.
All
twenty
most
people
would
just
change
to
jaywalk,
rather
than
press
the
violently
and
I,
and
that's
something
that
we
have
seen
witnessed
all
across
the
city,
particularly
on
Madison
Avenue.
Most
people
would
not
wait
to
press
the
push
buttons.
They
were
just
Jane
walk
across
the
street
and
which
is
a
really
serious
public
safety
concern.
B
B
That
sometimes
confuse
they
could
be
confusing
for
people
who
are
visiting
the
city.
So
again,
the
gist
of
this
legislation
with
this
resolution
is
that
it
is
to
disable
all
pedestrian
signals,
particularly
not
the
same
all
of
them,
but
is
certain
most
traffic
traveled
areas
if
we
can
get
rid
of
those
back
roads
and
just
have
the
traffic
signal
just
stop
where
to
allow
the
distance
to
travel.
I
believe
that
that
would
be
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
to
make
sure
that
this
city
is
walkable
and
also
public
safety.
Concerns
is
address.
J
Know
I
think
it's
important
to
acknowledge
that
the
concerns
are
real
to
some
degree.
I
think
that
it's
an
issue
that's
worth
looking
at
I,
don't
know
that
this
ordinance
is
the
way
to
necessarily
do
it.
One
thing
that
I
did
suggest
is
that
the
city
is
going
to
be
doing
a
bicycle
and
pedestrian
plan,
probably
starting
in
November
in
December,
and
maybe
the
resolution
should
be
rewarded
to
state
that
something
that
should
be
considered
in
the
context
of
that
planning
document.
J
I,
think
I,
don't
understand
the
technology
nearly
as
well
as
bill
does
and
the
ordinance
isn't
it's
calling
on
his
department
to
do
something
specifically
so
I'm
gonna
refer
to
him
as
the
expert
in
the
subject
matter,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know
it's
it's
something
that's
worth
talking
about
moving
forward,
but
I
don't
know
that.
There's
a
blanket
solution,
I
mean
I,
think
we've
the
intersections
operate
very
differently,
something
in
the
downtown
neighborhood
versus
something
uptown.
J
There's
that's
the
different
levels
of
traffic,
even
at
different
times
of
the
day
and
I.
Think
there
needs
to
be
discussion
of
you
know,
who's
prioritized
when
or
how
that
sort
of
calculates
out
and
there's
so
many
criteria
and
like
bill
said
the
technology
is
changing.
So
in
a
couple
of
years
this
may
not
even
be
an
issue
you
may
be
able
to
have
the
button.
A
D
Couple
comments:
my
biggest
concern
that
jaywalking
art
is
about
people
who
don't
go
to
the
corner
and
where
the
light
is
and
some
prominent
places
where
that
happens
is
out
in
front
of
st.
Peters
and
frankly
in
front
of
New
Scotland
elementary
school.
It
drives
me,
nuts,
the
parents
that
get
out
of
their
cars
and
walk
their
kids
from
pinewood
street
straight
across
rather
than
going.
You
know
an
extra
two
doors
down
200
feet.
An
extra
100
feet
is,
and
it's
and
it's
very
upsetting
tourism.
D
So
so
when
we
talk
about
Jay
Jay
walking
that
to
me
is
a
bigger
concern,
then
you
know
I
I,
just
don't
for
the
people
who
bother
to
go
where
there
is
a
cross
signal.
They
tend
to
comply
with
that
in
in
in
my
neighborhood
in
my
neighborhood
I'm
saying
about
you,
my
observations.
The
other
thing
is
we're
we're
sitting
here
and
as
I'm
you
know,
there's
so
there's
you
know.
D
D
They
also
do
a
lot
of
driving.
So
while,
if
they're
walking,
they
might
appreciate
the
fact
that
they,
the
light,
actually
you
know,
went
green
for
them.
You
know
they
got
the
crosswalk
signal
without
having
to
push
it.
I
can
also
see
them.
You
can
also
see
me
getting
emails
and
telephone
calls
from
people
like
I.
D
Don't
know
why
I
was
sitting
there
at
Ontario
Street
when
there
was
not
a
car
coming
and
there
was
not
a
pedestrian
and
and
and-
and
you
know,
dollars
to
doughnuts
I
will
tell
you
that
I
am
going
to
get
those
kind
of
calls
on
the
same
in
front
of
you
know.
You
know
all
the
way
up
news
go
yeah,
you're
good
to
get
the
cause
kind
of
thing.
So
I
do
look
forward
to
you
know
Andrews
nodding
his
head
and.
I
Me
just
say
one
more
thing:
go
ahead,
something
we
did
do
under
Scotland
and
on
Madison
when
we
started
hearing
some
of
this
and
observe
some
of
the
things
that
were
going
on
is
when
you're
walking
on
Madison,
Avenue
and
you're
walking,
parallel
and
you're
crossing
over.
We
do
have
the
signals
come
up,
the
buttons
are
still
there
and
it
helps
with
some
folks.
We
do
have
the
signals
that
come
up
automatically
when
you're
crossing
the
side
streets
to
get
across
Madison
Avenue.
I
I
A
A
K
K
Who
walks
a
lot
and
talks
to
people
about
these
issues?
From
what
I
hear
from
folks
who
walk?
The
first
is
exactly
what
mr.
Trudeau
just
said,
which
is
that
you
know
we
talked
about
these
arterial
roadways
where
there,
the
roads
are
generally
green
from
the
traffic
to
move
people
through,
so
they
don't
have
to
stop,
and
until
that
change
happened,
the
way
it
was
was
as
if
on
they
are
children.
Every
single
light
was
red
until
a
car
pulled
up,
that's
what
it's
like
being
a
pedestrian
where
big
buttons
are
the
norm.
K
It's
like
it's
like
driving
and
every
time
you
get
to
a
corner,
you
get
you
ever
read
like
this.
You'd
have
to
stop
at
every
single
one,
and
not
only
would
it
not
turn
green
right
away.
You
may
have
to
wade
through
one
and
a
half
light
cycles,
because
if
you
pull,
if
you
walk
up
to
us,
the
corner
and
the
parallel
traffic
has
green.
K
So
let's
take
the
example
of
Madison
New
Scotland
you're
walking
out
Madison
before
that
change
happened
and
the
way
many
of
the
big
buttons
are
still
programmed
you
get
to
that
corner.
While
the
cars
have
a
green,
it's
perfectly
safe
for
you
to
go
at
that
point
and
there
may
be
30
more
seconds
left
or
that
green,
because
there's
no
traffic
coming.
But
if
you
press
the
button
you're,
not
it's
nothing
to
come
on
right
away.
It
waits
until
those
parallel
cars
get
a
read.
K
The
perpendicular
cars
get
a
green
and
a
yellow
and
then
a
red
and
a
clear
signal.
And
then
you
get
to
go
so
you're
waiting
through
sometimes
one
and
a
half
cycle.
So
it's
even
worse
than
getting
a
red
light
at
every
every
spot,
because
you're
waiting
through
more
than
one
light
cycle,
so
I've
been
I
I
felt
like
I've,
been
noticing
those
changes
happen,
and
it's
been
very
heartening
to
see
that
now
that
this
issue
has
been
raised,
that
it
should
be
that
way.
K
If
all
the
cars
have
a
green,
all
the
pedestrian
lights
should
be
on.
There's
no
reason
not
to,
and
that's
that's
exactly
how
it
should
be
now
becomes
more
difficult
and
is
the
second
thing
I
would
raise
at
intersections,
where
it's
not
so
clear.
Who
exactly
is
the
arterial
way
or
at
intersections
where
there
are
almost
always
pedestrians
present,
and
so
the
examples
I
think
of
for
that
are
intersections,
like
lark
and
Madison
or
lark
and
central
Washington
at
those
intersections?
K
K
The
way
it's
supposed
to
read
is
that,
when
the
signal
changes,
the
pedestrian
signal
should
change.
So
what
that
means
is
when
the
cars
going
down
going
north
up
large
Street
get
a
green
the
pedestrians
going
across
Washington
to
get
a
green
too,
and
so,
basically
just
activating
it
at
the
time
when
they
normally
would
anyway,
and
at
intersections
like
that,
there's
so
many
cars
coming
through
you're,
not
lengthening
the
cycle
and
you're,
not
slowing
down
traffic,
because
there
the
amount
of
time
it
takes.
A
K
K
Totally
different
right:
yes,
that's
why
I'm
like
on
the
edge
of
my
seat,
because
I
hearing
this
misunderstanding.
So
that's
that's
what
I'm
coming
here
to
advocate
and
the
reason
for
that
is
it
at
busy
intersections
like
that,
one
on
lark
in
Washington
I've
had
this
experience
happen
where
there's
three
feet
of
snow
between
me
and
the
button
and
the
way
it's
programmed
right
now,
the
signals
are
just
always
off
until
you
press
a
button,
and
so
there's
no
legal
way
to
get
home.
K
And
what
do
you
do
the
situation
and,
and
so
you
have
end
up
people
start
to
feel
like
a
second-class
citizen.
They
start
to
feel
a
little
bit
fed
up
with
the
system
and
they
just
start
to
ignore
them
entirely.
And
that's
what
we
mean
when
we
say
it
breeds
a
culture
of
jaywalking.
Is
that
when
you,
when
your
default
position,
is
that
cars
are
getting
between
and
reds
and
yellows
going
through
all
the
time,
but
all
the
pedestrians
are
just
off
all
the
time.
K
There
are
definitely
intersections
where
it's
more,
like
the
latter,
where
you're
trying
to
move
arterioles
through
and
if
the
light
signal
is
not
going
to
change
I'm,
not
it
doesn't
need
to
always
go
through.
Not
every
intersection
should
be
a
purely
time-based
intersection.
Having
actuation,
based
on
the
presence
of
a
car
pulling
up
on
a
side
street
or
someone
pushing
a
button,
makes
perfect
sense
in
a
lot
of
places
where
it
doesn't
necessarily
make
sense
is
what
we
look
to
what
mr.
Chito
already
said,
which
is
parallel.
Traffic
has
a
green.
K
The
pedestrian
signal
should
get
a
little
white
whatever
and,
and
you
see
that
not
only
in
those
places
but
downtown
too,
you
know
you
see
it
at
downtown.
Intersections
where
you
could
stand
there
all
day
and
never
get
a
signal,
even
though
cars
are
coming
through
and
all
the
signals
are
changing
and
and
at
most,
especially
in
downtown
intersection
where
the
streets
are
narrower,
you're
talking
about,
like
maybe.
K
Maximum
but
oftentimes
there's
three
or
four
cars
coming
through
anyway,
so
it
wouldn't
add
much
time
at
all.
If
it's
going
to
add
a
lot
of
time,
we
have
a
whole
different
conversation
about.
Why
is
your
street
designed
that
that
wide,
but
you
know
like
why,
why
do
you
need
30
seconds
to
cross
the
street?
Maybe
we
shouldn't
be
designing
your
street
network.
I
A
I
Sorry,
300
intersections
with
lights,
traffic
signals
traffic
signals.
Yes
right,
there's
about
1800
intersections
citywide,
so
the
vast
majority
do
not
have
traffic
signals
and
there's
places
we're
gonna
pose
to
take
traffic
signal
down
as
well
move
to
a
stop
sign
approach.
So
we're
working
on
that
as
well,
because
there's
definitely
areas
where
we
do
not
need
them
in
neighborhoods.
So
that's
that's
another
animal,
but
where
we're
working
towards
that
as
well.
I
I
A
G
Yes,
I'm
a
resident
of
Albany
and
I
walk
a
lot
of
miles
nobody
every
day
and
what
frustrates
me
I'm
glad
you're
talking
about
this,
because
what
frustrates
me
is
I
never
know
when
I
need
to
push
the
button
and
when
I
don't
I
walk
a
lot
between
Swan
and
Lake
in
Washington
and
I
can
sit
here.
I
won't,
but
I
could
sit
here
list
intersections,
where
I
don't
need
to
push
it
in
intersections,
where
I
do
but
I
forget.
Do
they
do
so?
G
What
I'm
asking
for
all
of
you
is
consistency
I'm
all
you
could
put
out
a
pamphlet
say
to
me:
if
the
button
has
yellow
around
it,
you
have
to
push
it.
If
it
doesn't
have
yellow
around
it,
you
don't
have
to
push
it
or
you
can
make
all
of
them.
So
you
have
to
push
it
or
all
your.
So
you
don't,
but
consistency
is
what
I
really
need,
because
it
really
is
irritating.
G
I
G
F
I
The
consistency
also
is
outside
the
city.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
when
you're
walking
not
only
in
our
city,
but
everyone
travels
everything
that
look
for
the
bottom
at
a
corner
and
question
I've
recently
been
the
boston,
and
I
know
I
don't.
I
said
the
bread
earlier
I,
don't
like
using
examples
outside
the
city
outside
of
New
York
or
the
walls
are
different,
but
I
was
in
Minnesota
last
week
and
I
family
to
Boston
and
there's
buttons
on
every
corner.
I
always
make
the
assumption
push
the
button.
B
Just
a
bit
sad
that
I
mean
the
city
of
all
the
comparing
city
of
Albany.
Ton
of
municipalities,
especially
and
I,
are
gonna
that
you
want
to
use
it
as
a
way
to
be
consistent,
but
those
municipalities,
just
maybe
haven't
made
a
commitment
to
the
city
of
Albany
demonstration,
will
command
the
council
of
movement.
You
see
you
again,
the
Complete
Streets
the
2030
plan.
We
are
committed
to
making
the
city
a
walkable
city,
and
this
is
wandering
legislation
that
I
believe
is
going
to
help
promote
them.
B
D
D
Well,
I'm,
just
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
just
stumbling
but
too
much
of
the
purse.
Therefore
it
be
it
resolved
in
terms
of
I
think
that
we
already
have
a
policy
where
we're
I
mean
right
now.
It
says
to
expand
a
policy
to
ensure
that
pedestrian
signals
are
included
as
part
of
every
traffic
signal
cycle
in
intersections.
A
D
C
D
This,
my
understanding,
is
when
we
add
new
traffic
when
we're
replacing
traffic
signals
these
days.
We
are
also
either
adding
if
they
don't
exist,
pedestrian
signals
or
we
are
replacing
the
existing
pedestrian
signals
along
with
it,
so
that
they
are
88
compliant
and
to
the
extent
that
they're
accessible.
When
it's,
we
only
have
a
ton
of
snow
aircraft
yeah.