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The Committee reviewed Local Law B - 2020 that codify the City of Albany’s participation in the Capital Region Community Choice Aggregation and Resolution 9.21.20 that approve the opt-out letter that must be approved by the State and submitted to the State with Local Law B of 2020 upon its passage.
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B
This
is
the
February.
If
you
want
to
have
conversations,
please
go
outside
this.
Is
the
February
12
2020
meeting
of
planning
economic
development,
limp
lute,
Land,
Use,
Committee,
council
members,
committee
members
present
our
town,
Poli
Judy
do--she
and
myself,
Kathy
Fahey
other
council
members
present
ginny,
Farrell
and
Sonia
Fredrick.
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B
B
B
A
B
D
So
I
think
the
first
high
level
update
is
just
a
reminder
that
Albany
is
one
of
13
municipalities
and
representing
90
thousand
households
across
the
capital
region
that
are
investigating
CCA.
No
one
is
committed
at
this
point.
You
I
know
that
all
of
you,
at
least
on
this
committee
and
most
of
you
in
this
room,
have
seen
this
little
seven
steps
piece
and
it's
critical,
because
I
want
to
remind
us
that
we're
only
at
step
two,
so
we're
doing
education
right
now,
I
believe
Michelle
graciously
photocopied
for
all
of
you.
D
The
miss
named
education
outreach
plan
because
that
actually
we
originally
used
it
as
a
planning
tool,
but
really
what
it
is
acting
as
now
is
a
documentation
of
all
of
the
scheduled
or
or
educational
activities
that
have
happened,
and
so
I
just
want
to
point
out
to
you
that
we're
working
hard
to
get
in
various
neighborhood
association
meetings.
There
are
one
two
three.
D
Are
six
more
educated
associations
that
in
the
last
24
hours
have
requested
meetings
so
Facebook
it's
doing
its
job
spreading
conspiracy
and
encouraging
public
participation?
So
that's
great.
We
have
also
been
in
the
libraries
we're
we're
using
Facebook
a
lot
we
are
having
trouble
getting
press.
We'll
be
honest.
Is
that
I
think
the
national
news
is
eclipsing
us
a
little
bit
so
anything
we
can
do
to
try
to
get
that.
Any
thoughts
that
you
have
on
getting
this
picked
up
is
critical
and
the
more
using
the
radio
we're
using.
D
You
know,
channel
Albany,
YouTube,
so
lots
of
different
things
again.
Your
idea
is
welcome
here.
This
is
just
literally
this
particular
part
of
the
education.
The
state
requires
it
to
be
sixty
days
and
and
of
multiple
methods
of
outreach,
and
this
is
really
just
for
inclusion
in
the
RFP
process.
This
is
not
the
end
of
the
education
at
all.
D
There's
actually
a
step
if
the
city
decides
to
afford
a
bit
of
additional
education,
so
the
other
thing
I
want
to
tell
you
is
sort
of
what
happens
next
again,
you'reyou're
moving
towards
a
March
second
potential
passage
of
a
local
law.
The
critical
element
of
that
local
law
is,
you
are
not
obliged
to
do
CCA,
it
does
not
tie
you
to
mega.
It
is
literally
giving
you
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
a
bit.
That
is
what
it
is
doing,
and
so
so
that
that's
that's
key.
It's
not
a
done
deal
at
that
point.
D
The
part
that
it
does
become
real
is
actually
not
until
May
this
step.
Five
and
that's
after
the
bids
come
back
in
that's
after
we
make
a
recommendation.
We
do
the
analysis.
We
compare
historic
pricing
to
the
pricing
proposed
for
the
CCA.
We
look
at
percentage
renewables.
All
of
that,
so
that's
not
until
May,
and
that
would
be
the
point
where
the
city
has
to
actually
decide.
Yes,
we
offer
this
to
our
residents
or
no,
we
don't,
and
if
we
do,
what
is
the
default
option
that
you
want
to
offer?
D
The
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is:
if
you
do
that,
then
there's
another
60
days
of
education.
That's
when
we
actually
know
the
price,
the
term
the
source,
it's
a
lot
easier,
I
think
to
engage
with
residents
when
it's
not
a
concept,
but
it's
an
actual
thing.
So
hopefully
that's
our
experience
in
other
communities.
D
So
the
other
thing
I
would
point
out
is
that
the
actual
opt-out
period
right
so
every
eligible
customer,
so
everyone
who's
with
National
Grid
now
would
automatically
eligible
as
long
as
they're,
not
a
heap
enrolled
customer,
and
so
they
would
get
an
opt-out
letter
in
the
mail.
You
know
telling
them
about
this
program
and
then
they
would
have
the
opportunity
over
a
30-day
period
to
mail
in
a
card
to
make
a
phone
call
to
go
online,
opt
out.
Okay.
That
will
not
happen
on
our
timeline
right
now.
D
That's
not
until
July
to
August,
okay,
so
we're
still
talking.
This
is
a
very
future.
This
is
a
quite
an
extensive
period,
so
there's
lots
of
time
to
engage
with
your
residents
and
make
sure
folks
understand
the
process
and
they
understand
their
options.
The
other
things
I
want
to
address
a
couple
things
we
I
know:
there's
been
some
concerns
about
heap
eligible
or
heap
enrolled.
Customers
not
being
able
to
participate
in
the
CCA,
that
is,
the
state's
parameters
for
CCA
and
it's
based
on
the
subsidy
that
they're
already
getting
for
their
utilities.
D
They
can
literally
they're
already
eligible
for
basically
free-
five
to
fifteen
dollars
a
month
on
their
off
on
their
utility
bill,
so
we're
trying
to
get
as
many
people
in
albany
enrolled
in
that
program
as
possible
because
we
recognize
we
want
this
to
work
for
everyone
and
two
other
things.
I
a
couple
of
things
I
want
to
just
stress
before
I.
Take
your
questions.
One.
D
There
there's
been
some
rumors
going
onto
Facebook,
there's,
never
a
fee
to
opt
out;
okay,
never
at
all,
not
during
this
30-day
period
at
number,
six
and
never
through
the
rest
of
the
program.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
the
CCA
negotiates
and
that's
one
of
the
values
of
the
CCA
versus
going
into
the
market
yourself.
So
that's
critical
and
then
the
other
piece.
That's
critical
is
around
data
security.
D
So
Megha
will
not
actually
have
the
account
numbers
of
your
residents.
We
will
not
have
their
telephone
number.
We
will
have
the
absolute
minimum
information
that
is
needed
to
do
this
program,
which
includes
their
name
and
address
to
mail
them
those
letter
right,
so
we
have
had
to
follow
very
strict
data
security
protocols
that
this
state
and
national
grid
both
have
to
sign
off
on
so
I
can
guarantee
you
that
we
are.
We
have
checked
those
boxes
because
we
are
not
allowed
to
have
the
data.
D
If
we
have
not
so
that's
I
know,
that's
been
a
concern
as
well,
and
then
the
only
other
one
that
thing
I
want
to
say
to
you
before
I
take
questions.
Is
that
Judy
I
really
appreciate
all
of
your
detailed
analysis
and
questions
and
for
anyone
that
wants
to
sit
down
one-on-one
and
dive
into
the
weeds.
I
am
happy
to
do
that,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
other
documents
that
relate
to
this
program,
that
we
don't
necessarily
talk
about
in
a
meeting
of
read
every
day
like
this,
so
I'm.
Why
welcome
back?
Yes,
thank.
B
You
and
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
say
that
elected
to
mention
there
is
going
to
be
public
comment
at
the
end
of
this
committee
meeting,
but
I
do
want
to
point
out.
There
will
be
a
public
hearing
that
is
tentatively
scheduled
on
February
20th,
so
you
will
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
at
that
time
as
well.
So
well,
why
don't
we
start
and
go
around,
and
if
anyone
has
questions
about
the
local
law
that
we're
gonna
get
we're
looking
at
tonight.
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C
D
Okay,
let
me
just
let
me
just
clarify
why
that's
confusing
so
there
this
initial
that
30
days
I
was
talking
about.
That's
opted
out
like
I,
don't
want
to
leave
National
Grid
I,
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
this
program.
They
have
30
days
and
nothing
will
happen
to
them
as
they
opt
out
after
that
period.
We're
assuming
that
be
fading,
opt
out
they're
going
to
go
into
the
program,
that's
the
structure,
so
they
move
into
the
program.
D
D
That
will
depend
on
the
market.
Pretty
and
I
wrote.
I
explained
this
it
to
your.
This
was
your
question
in
as
well
Judy,
which
is
that
every
almost
every
CCA
in
New
York
State
has
been
two
years.
There's
a
lot
of
reasons
for
that.
So
I
think
we'll
be
around
a
two-year
term,
but
we
won't
know
we'll
base
that
on
what
the
best
value
is.
So
maybe
it's
18
months,
maybe
it's
22
months
it'll
depend
on
the
pricing.
We
get
what
we
recommend,
but
it
won't
be.
D
C
C
D
C
C
D
No,
they
cannot
so
the
delivery.
You
are
correct
so
that
the
CCA
is
only
about
the
supply.
The
delivery
will
still
be
National
Grid,
there
will
be,
one
bill
will
still
be
National
Grid
and
that
delivery
rate
is
set
through
a
rape
case
about
every
three
years.
National
Grid
can't
just
raise
those
rates.
That
is
a
a
regulated
process
where
it's
a
11
month,
process
that
they
go
through
and
we
are
not
in
the
middle
of
one
of.
F
A
F
I
think
that
people
would
take
solace
and
actually
seeing
it
in
the
legislation
and
I.
Don't
really
think
that
that's
your
role,
I
think.
We
should
think
that
that's
the
role
of
the
committee
and
the
council
to
address
in
making
some
specific
changes
to
this
legislation.
I'm
not
really
looking
for
a
lot
of
changes.
Sure.
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E
E
G
D
The
other
thing
and
I
don't
know
I
think
you
all
have
been
shared
the
implementation
plan
now
and
that's
the
that's
the
plan
that
Megha
had
to
put
together.
That's
really
talking
about
the
details
of
how
this
program
works
and,
and
so
our
structure
and
you're.
Welcome
to
you
know
you
and
with
your
council.
Legal
counsel
are
welcome
to
change
the
law.
D
However,
you
want
that
implementation
plan
is
those
details
because
working
with
Megha
versus
working
with
another
administrator
or
two
or
five
years
from
now
the
structure
of
CCA
could
change
in
and
we
don't
know
how,
and
so
the
local
law
is
written
in
a
way
that
it
is
the
things
that
are
core
to
the
program.
The
implementation
plan
is
all
the
details
that
fill
that
out
so
like
in
the
implementation
plan.
D
It
explicitly
says,
customers
can
opt
out,
you
know,
and
and
the
no
termination
fee
is
not
is
not
actually
a
given,
but
it's
something
that
we
negotiate
and
has
always
happened
right.
So
some
of
these
things
putting
them
in
your
local
law
may
or
may
not.
We
may,
or
we
wouldn't
necessarily
advise,
because
it
could
change
and
that's
fine
if
you
want
to
put
your
local
law
as
it's
going
to
be
in
the
know
that
you
might
have
to
change
your
local
law.
That's
fine!
E
F
People
certain
assurances
with
Cheryl
this
is
going
to
be
operated
so
that
sure
so
that's
one
of
them.
The
the
other
thing
that
is
not
in
the
local
and
JRE
I
meant
to
I
started
drafting
something
in
response
to
this
and
found
it
in
my
drafts.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
a
question
about
is
this
local
law
says
that
we're
supposed
to
approve
the
CCA
agreement?
We
did.
We
did
authorize
the
administration
to
or
ask
the
administration
to
go
ahead
and
negotiate
an
agreement.
F
But
my
question
is:
is
whether
the
state
statute
actually
requires
the
municipal
governing
body
to
approve
that
particular
agreement?
If
not,
then
I
think
that
we
can,
then
we
don't
need
to
change
the
legislation.
If
it
does,
then
I
think
that
we
kind
of
have
to
retroactively
Lee,
ratify
the
agreement
and
keep
that
kind
of
language
in
our
in
this
local
law.
So
one
way
or
the
other,
we
should
be
resolving
it.
F
I,
don't
so
much
feel
the
need
to
have
us
a
booth,
the
CCA
agreement,
as
for
us
to
provide
to
have
some
level
of
oversight,
and
that
and
the
way
this
local
law
is
written
also
does
not
contain
that
there
is
something
that
suggests
that
we
might
have
a
role
with
the
eCos
approval.
The
EC,
oh
and
you
were
just
talking
to
Mike
about
the
e
Co
and
what
that
would
look
like
and
I
would
prefer
to
see
something
again
in
legislation
and
I
was
kind
of
for
the
committee's
purposes.
E
F
The
mayor
needs
to
let
us
know
he
or
she,
whether
she's,
going
along
with
that
and
then
we
would
have
30
days
or
45
days
to
take
action.
Otherwise,
with
regard
to
that
particular
proposal,
so
I
think
you,
the
goal
would
be
to
have
us
be
able,
if
find,
that
the
rates
are
not
something
that
it's
desirable
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
the
loop
right
and
that
we
have
the
ability
to
act
on
behalf
of
residents.
F
E
B
Well,
one
of
the
things
that
we
briefly
discussed,
I
was
discussing
with
the
mayor's
office
was
we
have.
We
have
had
this
committee
that
has
met
on
a
few
occasions
to
to
move
forward
in
this
process
and
to
their
thought
of
formalizing
that
committee
as
an
advisory
board,
and
then
the
council
would
have
representation
advocates,
have
representation
as
well
as
them.
F
And
that's
exactly
the
other
option.
I
was
thinking
about
because
you
and
I
would
want
that
committee
to
actually
had
at
least
three
Common
Council
members
on
it.
That
would
then
be
required
to
report
back
to
the
council,
but
I
would
also
want
to
make
sure
the
entire
council
is
receiving
notice
of
the
recommendation
when
it
is
transmitted
to
so
that,
so
that
we're
not
having
people
meet
and
saying.
Oh
well,
I
forgot
to
tell
you
yeah.
B
G
B
B
F
F
D
They
made
all
of
so
that
the
things
that
need
to
go
to
the
state
for
approval
to
include
you
in
the
RFP
are
the
local
law.
However,
it's
your
local
law,
so
whatever
changes
you
want
to
make,
it
are
fine
and
then
the
the
state
needs
to
know
that
Megha
didn't
lie
like
we've
done
this
education
and
outreach
right
like
this
is
that
resolution
is
to
say:
yes,
they
were
in
our
community.
They
went
to
these
neighborhood
associations.
D
They
were
on
Facebook
whatever,
so
that
and
then
the
the
draft
opt-out
letter
is
showing
that
you
know
it's
a
draft
so,
but
if
we,
if
you
do
want
to
make
substantive
changes,
I
encourage
you
to
do
them
now,
because
we're
going
to
get
approvals,
then
we
fill
in
the
blanks
and
then
we
get
a
second
approval,
so
substantive
changes.
It
would
be
better
to
make
on
the
earlier
side,
because
this,
the
review
process,
the
time
that
the
state
has
to
review,
is
longer
this
time.
E
E
F
That's
completely
missing
in
it
and
and
when
I
read
it
my
react.
When
I
read
that
particular
document,
it
almost
sounds
like
I'm
being
given
this
and
I
really
don't
know
what
this
is.
You
know
that
much
about,
unless
we're
really
seeing
a
significant
savings
down
at
the
bottom
and
and
I
can
see
a
lot
of
people
feeling
kind
of
almost
encouraged
based
upon
that
letter,
Takao
well.
F
E
E
E
F
D
Yeah
you're
correct
in
both
actually
so
you're
gonna
pick
a
default,
so
you'll
say
either
the
default.
Is
you
know
the
cheapest
thing
the
default
is
a
hundred
percent
or
the
default
is
some
other
thing,
four
percentage
renewables
between
the
cheapest
and
one
hundred
percent,
so
the
city
would
pick
that
default.
Every
resident
would
automatically
get
that
default
if
they
participate.
However,
it's
about
choice.
So
if
there,
if
you
pick
say
70
percent
is
the
is
that
is
the
cheapest
renewable.
That
beats
grids
price
and
you
say
that's
what
we
want
to
do.
D
Somebody
in
Albany
can
still
pick
a
hundred
percent
and-
and
the
purpose
is
we're
still
wanting
to
use
the
aggregate
to
give
the
value
to
people
that
want
to
something
slightly
different
people
can
still
opt
down.
If
you,
if
you
give
a
renewable
percentage
and
someone
says
I,
just
want
to
save
the
maximum
Ike
and
they
can
opt
down
into
that
so
you're.
What
you're
picking
is
the
default
that
if
someone
doesn't
make
another
choice,
that's
what
they
get.
That's
what
the
city
is
picking,
but
we're
not
CCA
is
not
taking
away
any
choices.
D
F
E
E
A
F
D
E
D
F
D
D
F
E
F
Really
the
decision
and
that
default
isn't
really
defined
or
explained
mm-hmm
that
so
that
what
that
word
also
seemed
to
be
maybe
not
necessarily
clarifying,
maybe
potentially
a
little
confusing,
but
I'd
be
glad
to
do
that.
But
I
also
would
like
your
when
we're
doing
that.
Yeah
I
would
like
you
to
be
in
the
in
the
loop.
D
Already
we've
had
and
we've
done
this
with
other
municipalities.
You
know
we
have
sort
of
a
standard
and
some
of
them
have
wanted
to
chop
so
much
that
it
what's
not
gonna
pass
state
approval
because
we've
taken
out
requirements.
So
that's
the
other
thing
we
have
to
balance,
which
is
there
are
certain
things
we
have
to
say
in
the
letter,
but.
A
B
D
F
E
B
A
I
E
A
D
D
So
no
at
this
saw,
let
me
let
me
yeah.
Let
me
explain
where
we
are
with
the
translation
piece.
So,
first
of
all,
we've
trans
we're
translating
right
now
that
I
fake
use
into
Spanish
and
we're
working
on
Mandarin,
as
well
as
our
top
two
priorities
and
the
reason
that
we've
started
there
is
because
the
concept
is
complicated
and
as
no
one
on
our
team
are.
These
are
the
other
native
speakers
we
actually
aren't.
D
We
have
no
way
to
check
if
the
concept
has
been
translated
correctly,
and
so,
if
it's
gonna
be
more
confusing
or
less
confusing.
Or
what
have
you?
So
that's
one
of
our
concerns.
We
don't
quite
know
how
to
manage
that
in
terms
of
direct
translation.
So
we
need
someone
that
we
can
sort
of
talk
to
explain
the
concept
and
then
have
them
translate
it.
If
that
makes
sense.
D
So
therefore,
all
of
everything
that
we
mail
will
be
in
English,
because
we
won't
know
what
language
any
individual
would
get
it
in
now,
Marisa
did
send
me
your
RFP
for
translation
services,
that's
out
now,
and
so
how
that
would
interface.
That's
it's
going
to
be
awarded
in
plenty
of
time,
so
exactly
if
that
means
that
there
could
that
could
get
folded
in,
but
I
still
think
it's
gonna
get
mailed
in
English
because
their
bill
is
in
English.
D
So
then
I
don't
know
when
our
step
would
be,
and
so,
if
you
can
help
me
understand
what
we
should
I
mean
I
think
we
could
put
stuff
on
the
website.
Maybe
and
people
can
come,
go
get
it
there,
but
it's
going
to
be
mailed
English,
because
we
don't
have
the
data
it's
the
problem.
So
that's
where
we
are
with
that.
We're
not
done
with
that
conversation,
but
that's
where
we
are
currently.
D
B
D
One
has
done
it
yet
they're
starting
to
do
it
on
Long
Island,
but
no
one
has
done
it
yet,
but
it
I
mean
it's
the
same
process,
but
it's
not
gonna
be
a
renewable
product
right,
but
it
would
help
with
that.
I
mean
gas
is
much
worse
in
terms
of
the
fluctuation
but
that's
up
to
you.
All
of
our
municipalities
have
left
it
in
so
far.
Just
again
because
of
the
concept
of
we
put.
F
F
D
And
the
reason
and
I
explained
it
in
my
response
to
you,
the
reason
is
because
CCA
is
an
opt-out
program.
There
isn't
another
structure
of
CCA,
but
I
understand
that
if
you're
wanting
to
have
this
be
read
and
as
an
educational
tool
or
a
clarification,
then
then
there
may
be.
But
that
is
why
it
doesn't
say
it
because
there
isn't
anything
other
than
an
opt-out.
Cca,
okay,
but
you're
welcome
to
clarify
so.
D
F
Some
stuff
the
end
of
the
legislation
about
the
letter.
Now
we
have
a
recent
experience
with
residents
asking
me
about
extranet
said
they
got
this
letter
and
it
was
like
there's
not
signed
by
anybody.
No
contact,
title
information
except
so
the
interesting
thing
is
I
thought
I
assume
that
the
opt-out
letter
that
CCA
would
be
involved
in,
but
it
seems
to
me
as
so
what
you
were
saying
in
your
response.
Is
it's
actually
the
ESC?
Oh.
E
D
F
F
D
E
F
G
F
G
B
D
There
it's
I
mean
this
is
so
imagine
in
a
30
day
period,
90,000
household,
some
percentage
of
them
are
gonna,
be
calling
it's
not
one
person,
it's
the
call
center.
Okay,
so
they're
gonna
know
we're
gonna,
know
the
esko's
name
and
we're
gonna
know
the
phone
number
we're
gonna
have
a
web
tool
and
we're
gonna
have
the
piece
of
paper
to
mail
in,
but
there's
not
one
single
person.
That's
taking
all
those
calls
it's
24/7.
So.
D
D
F
F
E
F
D
Leaves
elect
sure.
So
let
me
let
me
back
up
and
address
your
first
issue,
which
you
address.
What
you
are
asking
about,
so
the
legislation
is
vague,
because
New
York's
order
allows
the
administrator
and
the
ESCO
and
the
city
to
determine
if
it's
an
opt-out
treatment
or
an
opt-in
treatment
with
the
new
people.
So
Megha
has
decided
that
anyone
we
work
with
whatever
ESCO
we
choose
and
whatever
municipality
we
choose
in
our
implementation
plan,
it's
very
clear.
Any
everyone
gets
the
opt-out
treatment.
If
you,
if
you
move
into
the
city,
you
get
the
opt-out
treatment.
D
If
you
move
across
the
city
and
every
time
there's
a
new
account
number
with
a
new
name
associated,
even
if
someone
gets
married
and
they
change
their
name.
It's
the
same
thing.
That's
gotta
happen
to
them
right,
because
the
utility
thinks
they're
new
and
if
they're
new
and
the
city
has
this
program,
then
they're
in
right.
But
so
that's
so
the
reason
the
legislation
is
written.
D
That
way
is
because
again,
the
legislation
is
written
to
follow
the
order,
but
order
gives
all
kinds
of
options
and
another
administrator
or
five
years
from
now
the
city
might
even
if
it
was
with
Meg,
are
with
someone
else,
might
do
something
completely
different,
so
we've
written
the
legislation
was
written,
bare-bones
and
then
the
implementation
plan.
The
questions
that
out
is.
E
D
D
F
D
Yes
and
I
want
to
address
the
the
time
that
you
were
asking
about,
losing
a
percentage
of
the
cohort
recognizing
in
your
ward,
the
turnover
so
what
we
do
so
the
utility
there's.
Obviously,
if
there's
lags
it
takes
time,
but
what
we
do
is
right
now,
our
model
with
that
goes
as
three
times
a
year.
So
we
get
the
date
because
it
takes
I
mean
think
about
how
much
time
it
takes
it
takes.
They
have
all
this
time
to
give
us
the
data.
D
D
Only
if
they
haven't
opted
out
before
so,
if
someone
lives
at
the
same
house
and
they
opted
out
we're
not
going
to
send
them
another
chance
stopped
out,
they
are
not
included
for
the
time
and
program
move
no
if
they
move
they're
a
new
customer,
okay,
so
I'm,
sorry,
where
we
just
made
that
really
complicated
really
quickly.
So
someone
someone
moved
okay,
just
someone
moves
into
the
city,
you
know
someone
who's
into
the
city.
They're
gonna
get
an
opt-out
letter
within
three
months
of
moving
into
the
city.
D
Okay,
okay,
if
someone
moves
across
the
city
and
they
get
a
new
account
number
from
National
Grid
they're
gonna
get
an
opt-out
letter
within
three
months
of
getting
signing
up
with
National
Grid
again
opening
their
account
right.
So
but
what's
not
gonna
happen.
I
know
this
is
a
concern.
Is
that
if
someone
has
opted
out
the
first
time
we
are
not
going
to
mail
to
them
at
three
weeks.
Another
opt-out
letter
because
right
they're,
not
in
the
program
they've
told
us
they
don't
want
to
be
in
the
program.
D
We
respect
that
they're
not
going
to
be
in
the
program
unless
they
call
and
say
I
would
like
to
be
in
the
program,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
because
I
know.
That's
something.
People
think
that
when
we
say
we
keep
mailing,
there's
like
well,
we
keep
mailing
the
same
people,
no,
it's
just
new
accounts,
and
it
also
means
that
if
someone
is
with
yep
once
somebody.
H
J
J
J
D
It
happens
me,
National
Grid
will
tell
us
like
plenty
of
people
within
a
household
for
whatever
reason,
we'll
change
it
to
their
partners
name
and
if
that
happened,
they're
gonna
get
mailed
a
new
letter
because
National
Grid
doesn't
know.
Oh
that
was
your
partner
or
that's
your
mom
or
they
don't
National.
Grid
doesn't
know
that
so
they're,
like
that's
a
new
person,
then
they
say
mail.
The
letter
right,
so
that's
how
it
works.
So
it's
basically
if
the
account
number
and
name
are
different
associated
when
grid
pulls
the
request.
D
They're
gonna
tell
us
mail,
the
mail,
the
letter
so
because
otherwise
we
have
no
way
of
knowing
yeah
so
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
other
thing.
It's
not
just
moving
in,
say
someone
was
with
an
ESCO
outside
of
the
CCA
right.
Oh
and
the
contract
ended,
or
they
cancelled
it
because
they
were
like
I
got
to
get
out
of
this
deal
or
whatever
they're
gonna
be
eligible.
Then
so
it's
not
just
it's
not
just
moving.
There
are
other
things
that
might
that.
E
H
H
D
They
are
respected
that
block
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
you
and
if
people
call
they're
very
upset
now
they're
like
I,
don't
like
this
program.
I,
don't
want
anything.
Do
with
this
problem.
That's
what
we
tell
them.
We're
like
call,
National
Grid
put
a
block
on
your
account.
We
do
not
want
you
to
be
unhappy
and
angry
between
now
and
September.
It's
like.
D
On
your
account,
and
then
you
will
not
even
get
a
letter.
National
Grid
is
gonna,
see
you
as
unella
jabal,
but
that's
a
very
good
point.
That
is
the
other.
There
are
so
many
little
possibilities
that
are,
you
know
whatever
percentage
of
the
population
and
then
what
we
have
happened
is
people
call
and
they
say
why
didn't
I
get
a
letter
and
I
say
you
know
we
go
through
the
things?
No,
that's
not
it.
That's
not
it.
That's
not
it
and
the
National
Grid
does
not
tell
you
on
your
bill.
D
F
E
F
A
F
D
B
E
F
E
E
F
Here's
what's
happening
with
regard
to
education
afterwards
with
regards
to
the
ESC,
oh
and
have
because,
because
the
this
resolution
is
talking
about
and
the
intro
to
this
to
this
plan
he's
talking
about
educating
people
about
the
opt
out.
Well,
we're
not
going
to
educate
people
really
about
the
until
after
we
have
the
ESC,
oh
and
right
now
the
education
plan
doesn't
look
like
it
has
yeah.
E
F
D
I
think
we
can
just
change
the
title
of
the
document
which
we
did
in
another
municipality
and
then
because
the
purpose
of
this
document
is
not
to
plan
after
it's
not
to
plan
after
step
5.
The
purpose
of
this
document
was
that
committee,
you
both
of
you,
were
there
we
sat
down
and
we
planned
what
we
were
gonna
do
in
the
first
60
days
and
now
we're
executing
persons
the.
F
D
Do
that
comes
later,
so
they're
they're
expecting
because
it's
a
multiple,
it's
a
it's
a
multi-step
authorization
from
them.
So
the
first
thing
that
they
have
to
see
is
that
you've
done
60
days
of
education
and
outreach
in
multiple
methods
that
you
have
a
draft
opt-out
letter
that
that
you've
approved
by
resolution
with
the
municipal
letterhead
and
that
you've
passed
your
local
law.
So
that's
step
one.
They
see
that
they're
like
okay,
great.
That
means
that
you
can
get
data
from
National
Grid
to
go
to
bid.
Then
they
require
us
before
I
can
mail.
D
The
letter
I
should
tell
you
this.
Actually
so
before
that
letter
can
be
mailed,
you
all
have
to
approve
it
again
write
the
blanks
get
filled
in
you
approve
it
again.
The
state
has
to
approve
it
again
and
they
have
to
approve
the
second
period
of
education.
So
we
go
through
this
whole
process.
Twice.
Really.
Yes,.
E
E
D
To
the
bid
is
probably
accurate
because
we
are
gonna
have
things
on
here
and
I
can
tell
you
from
today.
The
neighborhood
associations
that
reached
out
we're
gonna
have
things
that
are
extending
beyond
your
local.
If
you
pass
your
local
on
March
2nd,
so
we
probably
just
want
to
say
like
pre
bid
or
something
like
that,
because
it
will
keep
going
into
the
end
of
March
and.
E
D
I
would
change
the
title
is
what
and
I'm
sorry
that
we
haven't
just
categorically
done
that?
Okay,
no
one
noticed
until
this
round
believe
it
or
not.
It's
been
drew
like
30
municipalities
and
the
town
of
Bethlehem
was
the
first
one
to
notice
there
like.
This
is
not
accurate,
title
and
I
was
like
they
were
the
first
ones
to
notice
yeah.
We
changed
it
for
them,
so
no
one
else,
I,
don't
like
changing
documents
after
you
all
have.
B
D
Just
yeah
yeah
yeah
exactly
they
just
changed
it.
They
called
it
details
of
city
of
you
know,
town
of
Bethlehem,
education,
outreach
and
that's
all.
It
was
because
it
was
clear
in
the
resolution
for
them.
I,
don't
that's
all
they
did.
They
just
took
off
plan.
That's
literally
all
they
did
know.
What's.
D
But
we
can,
we
can
do
whatever
make
sense
or
you
can
change
the
resolution
like
Judy,
suggesting
to
suggest
to
add
language
into
the
resolution,
to
suggest
that
this
is
the
first
round
of
education,
and
it's
only
before
the
you
know
the
RFP
or
whatever,
whatever.
That
might
be
a
good
addition.
Okay,.
D
F
D
F
F
D
D
B
Thanks
Chris
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
keep
it
under
three
minutes
and
because
there
are
other
opportunities
we
are
going
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
the
20th,
and
so
you
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
then
as
well.
First
speaker
is
bail.
Reinhardt
welcome
bill.
If
you
want
to
come
up
and
just
stand
here,.
K
Okay
in
three
minutes,
I'll
try
to
cover
all
the
ground.
I
heard
the
discussion
about
today,
or
at
least
somebody
will
I
was
gonna
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
were
already
mentioned
by
Omega,
about
no
penalties,
the
opt-out
option
and
the
security
of
the
personal
data.
I.
Guess
the
point
that
I'd
like
to
make
and
I
should
say:
I,
wear
two
hats
in
this
task:
I'm
a
County
Legislator
representing
parts
of
Bethlehem
in
New
Scotland.
Both
communities
are
participating
in
CCA
and
they
were
some
of
the
early
early
players
in
it.
K
Spencer
has
worked
with,
and
so
so
we
are
working
with
the
Regional
Planning
Group
CDR
PC,
on
heat,
smart
on
CCA,
on
clean
energy
communities
and
climate
smart
communities,
and
so
we
will
go
around
and
we'll
talk
about
rooftop,
solar,
community,
solar,
even
the
wholesale
solar
markets,
to
educate
the
public
about
all
the
renewable
energy
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
region
and
the
point
I
want
to
make
really
is
that
you've
heard
mega?
Who
is
kind
of
like
the
entity?
That
is
the
focus
of
the
CCA.
K
But
in
addition
to
that,
there
is
not
only
solar
eyes
and
capital
district
regional
planning,
commission,
but
there's
the
steering
committee
which
Tina
and
I
are
a
part
of
which
is
now
called
Capital
District
Community
Energy.
We
have
representatives,
obviously
from
solar
as
Albany
from
the
Sierra
Club
from
the
climate
reality
reality
project
Bethlehem
tomorrow
many
many
community
organizations
who
are
actively
engaged
in
encouraging
this
they're.
K
So
we
are
all
you
know
very
excited
about
it.
We
are
all
so
I'll
call
it
eyes
and
ears
to
make
sure
everything
runs.
Well,
Meghan
will
hear
from
us
if
it
doesn't,
and
so
that's
you
know,
I
just
want
you
to
understand
that
when
you're,
considering
what
you're
getting
involved
with
here,
it's
all
of
these
communities
all
of
these
groups
in
all
these
communities
around
the
Capitol
district,
who
really
want
to
see
this
move
forward
as
a
major
piece
of
dealing
with
the
climate
disaster.
B
L
H
L
The
CCA
is
goes
along
with
a
lot
of
the
positions
of
the
league
at
the
National
at
the
state
and
at
our
local
level
support
and
last
night.
We
finally
got
around
to
passing
a
resolution
to
support
the
adoption
of
a
Community
Choice
aggregation
as
a
way
to
encourage
generation
and
use
of
renewable
energy
sources
and
and,
like
bill
said
we
can
be
a
educational.
B
E
M
I
know
this
committee
has
heard
from
me
before
so
when
I
first
heard
about
community
choice,
aggregations
vests
we
had
three
years
ago
and
I
was
very
skeptical
I
heard
about
it
at
a
renewable
energy.
Fair,
but
I
wanted
to
learn
more
and,
as
I
totally
understand
how
long
it
takes
to
ask
enough
questions
and
get
enough
answers
to
feel
comfortable
with
the
program.
M
But
I
have
found
that
it's
probably
the
most
benign
ESCO
program.
There
is
I,
mean
I
personally
signed
up
and
was
taken
advantage
of
in
a
predatory
ESCO,
because
I
signed
up
as
an
individual
and
I
didn't
understand.
You
know
when
they
say
one
thing
about
price
I
didn't
understand
that
it
was
really
much.
It
was
more
than
I
thought
it
was
going
to
keep
going
up,
and
this
is
not
like
that
at
all.
M
This
is
really
a
way
to
deal
with
that
in
a
very
effective
way.
That
also
can
help
people
if,
with
their
pocketbooks,
you
know
I
can't
sign
up
for
renewable
energy
at
this
price.
You
know
the
price
that
we
can
get
from
an
ESCO.
The
competitive
level
of
price
I
can't
get
that
so
trying
to
sign
up
individually.
This
is
the
only
way
I
can
be
part
of
it.
I
can
get.
M
You
know
sign
up
and
get
10%
off
through
community
solar
and
all
that,
but
this
is
really
just
a
really
effective
way
to
deal
with
with
the
situation
with
climate
and
a
way
that
we
can
do
our
responsibility.
You
know
take
on
what
what
we
have
to
do
as
a
community
to
help
with
that
and
reduce
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
I
on
a
big
level
here
you
know
and
like
a
one
fell
swoop.
M
After
all,
this
preparatory
work
and
education
and
outreach
is
reaching
out
to
90,000
people
and
giving
them
renewable
energy
unless
they
they
don't
want
to
be
part
of
this
more
renewable
energy
than
they
would
get
with
National
Grid,
and
then
that
choice
of
maybe
even
a
hundred
percent.
It
depends
what
the
price
is
coming
at.
We
might
get
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
at
a
price
lower
than
national
grids
average
historical
rate.
E
M
Iii
wanted
to
make
that
point,
and
the
other
part
is
I.
Think
this
had.
This
historically
helps
people
who
have
who
have
signed
on
to
a
predatory
ESCO
and
don't
even
realize
it
like
senior
citizens
and
other
people,
because
they
can
actually
bring
their
bill,
get
some
advice.
Let's
see
what
the
price
is
and
what
they've
been
paying
and
they
will
learn
that
there
they
can
see
that
that
a
lot
of
them
may
have
been
overpaying.
So
that's
a
very
important
thing
that
this
does
it's.
Actually
it
teaches
people
there's
so
much
outreach
and
education.
M
Maybe
there
aren't
snap,
but
they
can
get
an
even
reduced
rate
on
top
of
the
CCA
and
and
sign
up
for
some
of
nyserda's
programs
that
they
don't
know
about
and
again
those
are
opt-in
program.
So
it's
very
hard
to
get
that
information
out,
but
we
can
use
this
opportunity
to
co,
promote
that
and
for
people
who
aren't
income
eligible
they
can
get
an
extra
10%
off
by
signing
up
for
a
community
solar.
M
N
Welcome
Eileen
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
couple
things
I
feel
like
I
got
some
questions
answered
here
and
I
feel
a
little
better
about.
You
know
the
fee
that
I
was
hearing
about
in
social
media.
That's
not
true
and
I'll,
be
sure.
I
make
sure
I
post
that
too,
but
I
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
the
education
and
units.
You're,
probably
aware
our
family
not
me
personally,
but
family
members
owned
a
lot
of
property
and
I
am
involved
with
managing
some
of
that
and
I
think
the
education
for
our
attendants
is
key
and.
E
N
Get
information
out
to
the
property
owners
so
that
they
can
pass
this
on
to
tenants
when
they're
signing
a
lease.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
new
in
town,
some
people
that
have
language
barriers,
as
you
discuss
that
we
would
be
able
to
at
least
provide
them
with
educational
material
as
much
as
we
do
about
the
snow
emergencies.
Things
like
that
when
people
we
try
to
make
people
aware,
I'll
send
out
a
text
to
everybody.
N
If
it's
snowing
make
sure
you
move
your
car
if
there's
an
emergency
that
type
of
thing,
so
I
think
that
would
be
something
that
we
really
have
to
think
about
is
getting
the
property
owners
that
have
multiple
residences,
that
they.
You
know
that
they
would
be
able
to
get
this
information
out
to
their
tenants
in
an
appropriate
manner,
even
if
they
come
in
later,
like
you
were
discussing,
and
then
I
also
think
it's
great
to
go
to
all
the
the
neighborhood
association
meetings,
but
I
think
there's
other
avenues
such
as
PTA
meetings,
schools,
library
rise.
N
If
we're
concerned
about
language
barriers,
that
would
be
a
good
start
on
how
to
get
that
out
to
the
community
and
also
even
if
we
just
have
a
message
in
multiple
languages
that
says
you
can
turn
here.
If
you
can't
read
this
document
much
as
we
get
with
our
explanation
of
benefits
for
with
insurance,
you
get
messages
in
multiple
languages.
Go
here
for
more
information.
If
you,
if
you
can't
read
this
letter
in
your
language,
so
because
we
know
we
have
Karen
Karen
population
is
people
a
lot
of
people
in
Albany
high
and
that's
B.
N
N
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
one
thing
that
I
have
issue
with
in
the
block
does
I.
Don't
like
my
information
going
out
to
people
and
a
decision
being
made.
It's
just
me,
that's
how
I
feel
about
it
doesn't
mean
everybody
does
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
great
things
that
have
been
said
here
about
you,
know,
raising
awareness
and
also
doing
better
for
our
environment.
That's
all
good
things,
but
I.
N
F
Confused
about
that
cities,
it's
our
city,
administration,
administrator
city,
community,
aggregation
administrator,
who
will
look
at
it
and
evaluate
it
and
then
provide
information
and
ideas
that
it
be
provided
to
us,
the
Common
Council,
along
with
the
mayor,
so
that
we're
informed.
But
then
then
it
is
up
to
the
municipality
to
make
that
decision.
N
F
F
N
B
Yes,
sir,
okay,
just
just
wondered
that's
what
we've
been
talking
about
tonight
is
so
making
sure
the
pet,
the
council's
involved
in
this
decision
making
process
so
then
it'll
be
very
public
okay!
Well,
thank
you
thanks,
Eileen
fella
come
in
all
right.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
coming
any
other
comments
before
we
close
I
do
want.
F
Tina
said
something
about
this
would
be
an
opportunity
for
people
who
are
in
predatory
the
SEO
s
to
become
informed
about
maybe
their
contracts
and
opt
in
to
this.
So
I
I
found
that
interesting,
because
my
understanding
is
that
people
in
it
I'm
not
sure
the
others
opt
out
that
they
wouldn't
get
that
letter.
So
how
would
they
become
educated.
D
They
don't
know
when
you
show
up
they're,
not
included
wait,
so
that's
actually
I
really
enjoy
so
my
choice
with
writing
interest.
We're
not
to
appear
this
way
right,
but
so
people
are
learning,
but
one
of
the
things
that
happens
is
when
we
put
the
price
and
the
keeper
when
it
goes
on
your
website.
When
all
that
and
people
look
at
me
say
like,
can
you
said
you
did
this
yourself,
look
at
the
prices
like
whoa,
that's
a
big
spread,
and
so.