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From YouTube: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 5:30PM Public Safety Committee
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The Committee met to get updates on gun violence and Albany Police response to calls for services during NYS on PAUSE. The Committee discussed concerns over barbeque grill and firepits use during the upcoming months.
A
A
Present
community
members
are
bowring
councilman,
bowring,
Hoey
and
councilmember
Frederick
from
the
committee
along
with
councilmembers
Farrell,
Fahey,
Lynn,
love
and
County
are
also
participating
in
the
meeting
we
have
our
staff
city
clerk
Daniel
Gillespie,
let's
invade
Michele
Andre
in
our
research
council,
Junior
Chardo.
Thank
you
for
being.
A
I'm
here,
oh
you're,
you
know
you're
on
the
sorry
buddy
you're
on
the
bottom
and
you're
covered
by
the
admit
Oh
from
from
the
waiting
room.
So
it's
something
to
thank
again
know
you're
there
you
were
just
underneath
the
Papa
gotcha.
Thank
you
along
with
council
member
excuse
me,
council,
president
Corey
Ellis
and
Frederick's
is
also
with
us,
Thank
You
chief
for
being
here,
we'll
get
right
to
it.
The
type
of
good
discussion
we'll
be
looking
for
updates
on
gun
violence.
The
police
department
responds
to
calls
for
service
during
this
New
York
on
pause.
A
We'd
also
like
to
discuss
concerns
over
barbecues
and
fire
pits
during
the
upcoming
months,
along
with
a
few
other
issues
such
as
fireworks
and
whatnot
members
will
have
questions
that
are
on
those
lines.
There
will
be
public
comment.
There
is
currently
only
one
fourth
written
and
when
we
get
to
follow
comment
or
put
it
up
on
the
screen
and
I'll
read
it
for
that
public
comment.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you,
chief
Hawkins,
all.
C
We
started
to
see
a
spike
in
a
very
unusual
spike
in
shootings
in
the
city
and
as
well
as
other
violence,
and
it
was
something
that
caught
the
police
department
off-guard.
A
lot
of
our
veteran
detectives
were
we're
caught
off
guard
with
this.
It
was
very
unusual
what
we're
seeing
and
once
we
figured
out
what
was
that
actually
happening.
We
saw
that
these
were
some.
It's
just
like
a
lot
of
disputes
that
we
see
and
a
lot
of
violence
that
we
see.
C
It
was
a
small
group
of
individuals
who
were
responsible
for
a
large
amount
of
violence
that
we
were
seeing
in
the
community.
We
identify
the
individual
work,
would
source
of
the
huge
work
and
we
put
some
strategies
in
place
to
address
that
and-
and
we
did,
we
started
to
make
from
the
rest.
We
started
to
take
some
people
off
the
street.
C
There
was
a
dramatic
and
sudden
increase
and
particularly
gun
violence
in
urban
cities
across
America
we
started
what
was
consistent
across
the
board
was
that
we
were
seeing
decreases
and
property
crimes
we
were
in
general.
We
were
seeing
decreases
in
crime
overall,
and
we
started
to
consistently.
We
were
seeing
these
increases
in
communities
with
domestic
violence,
with
a
motor
vehicle
related
crimes
and
in
particular,
and
the
one
that
was
very,
very
disturbing
to
all
of
us
was
this
increase
in
firearms
related
crimes
and
we
theorized,
and
we
still
do
that.
C
The
reason
we
saw
that
spike
that
very
unusual
in
an
unanticipated
spike
was
because,
if
there
was
this
void
now
on
our
streets,
they
were
fewer
people
on
the
streets
because
of
social
distancing
and
stay-at-home
orders
in
communities
across
America.
There
were
fewer
officers
who
were
out
and
about
because
we
had
to
social
distance.
We
had
to
minimize
contact
with
the
public
to
protect.
Everybody
is
because
of
the
uncertainty
at
that
time.
Nobody
knew
really
what
was
happening.
C
They
saw
fewer
people
on
the
street,
they
saw
fewer
police
officers,
and
now
they,
these
feuds
in
these
conflicts,
that
we
were
seeing
that
existed
prior
to
colvett,
we're
now
an
exploding
in
our
streets,
and
it
was-
and
it
was
manifesting
itself
with
gun
violence.
So,
during
this
period
of
time,
during
coal,
but
from
from
March
first
until
the
report
that
I
have
here,
that
was
the
ended,
May
18th,
you
know
we
experienced
193
percent
increase
in
confirmed
shots,
fire
shootings
were
more
than
double
shooting
victims,
more
than
double
our
firearms.
C
Recoveries
were
our
gun,
arrests
were
down
and
those
numbers
were
fairly
consistent
with
what
we're
seeing
in
communities
across
America,
and
so
we
had
to
adjust
and
we
had
to
figure
all
this
out.
The
first
thing
we
had
to
do
was
figure
out.
How
can
we
do
this
safely?
How
can
we
continue
to
police
our
communities
and
address
this
threat
without
exposing
members
of
the
community
and
exposing
our
officers
to
unnecessarily
to
this
virus,
and
we
acquire
enough
PPE?
C
We
had
some
partnerships
with
the
private
sector
and
with
other
organizations
in
order
to
provide
sanitizing
and
disinfecting
on
a
regular
basis
with
our
police
vehicles.
In
our
work
spaces,
we
got
sanitized
when
all
the
things
that
we
needed
to
keep
those
officer
safe,
so
they
felt
safe
and
that
they
can
actually
go
out
there
and
do
some
more
proactive
things
and
mitigate
their
risk,
and
it
took
us
about.
C
They
did
a
number
of
very,
very
impressive
catches
and
and
addressing
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
were
seeing.
There's
been
a
number
of
arrests.
There's
been
a
number
of
gun
recoveries,
we're
sending
the
message.
Now
that
you
know
the
police
are
back,
you
know
they're
out
there.
You
know
this
stuff
queer
where
they
felt
that
they
they
can
go
out
there
with
impunity
and
fire
off
25
or
30
rounds
at
a
time
and
not
see
a
police
officer
in
until
we
responded
and
not
see
anybody
and
not
see
any
witnesses.
C
Those
days
are
over
right
now.
We've
made
some
adjustments,
we're
back
out
and
we've
seen
some
some
tremendous
progress
and
we
start
we're
starting
to
see
now
our
numbers
trending
back
to
normal
levels.
At
this
point,
and
so
we
had
some
challenges
at
first
address
those
challenges.
Co
became
presented,
some
new
challenges,
we
adjust
it
and
now
we're
back
to
business
and
handling
these
things
in
our
community
now
going
forward,
we're
obviously
heading
into
our
summer
months,
where
things
where
we
see
more
activity.
C
You
know
we're
going
back
to
some
of
the
strategies
that
work
for
us
in
the
past
and
that's
making
sure
that
we
have
our
officers
out
there
proactively
working
with
the
community.
We've
got
our
beat
officers
out
there
now
that
that
are
still
very,
very
active.
We've
got
specialized
units
therapy,
they'll
be
working
throughout
the
summer.
C
We
working
with
our
partners
at
all
levels
of
law
enforcement,
federal
state
and
county,
as
well
as
some
of
our
locals,
that
we're
partnering
with
we've
had
officers
are
assigned
to
special
to
federal
task
forces
in
order
to
give
us
intelligence
for
some
activities
that
may
be
coming
from
out
state
and
to
give
us
some
resources
and
intelligence
from
the
federal
government
in
dealing
with
a
lot
of
these
sorts
of
things
and
I'm.
Very,
very
optimistic.
As
we
move
forward
that
we've
had
we've
got
the
pieces
in
place.
Now
we
have
the
resources.
C
D
Okay.
What
does
summer
months
coming,
you
know
and
the
uptick
in
violence
WC.
You
feel
that
you
have
the
adequate
boss
to
be
able
to
address
issues
that
we
may
face,
and
if
you
don't
what
other
resources
do
you
think
you
can
tap
into
such
as
I
know?
One
year
we
had
state
support
and
other
other
other
agencies
come
in
and
give
us
some
additional
manpower.
That's
my
first
question
and
I
like
to
divest
I'm
sure
everyone
else
has
other
questions
that
I
like
to
touch
them,
but
I'll
start
with
that.
One.
C
Yeah
so
counsel
my
week,
I
think
we
have
the
resources
and
I
think
we
have
a
great
plan
to
address
what
needs
to
be
done
this
summer
yeah.
But
of
course,
I
mean
we're
right
now,
we're
56
officers
short
and
about
to
be
57
officers
short
because
we're
I
just
found
out
today
that
we're
losing
another
one,
and
so
it
would
be
nice
to
be
close
to
full
staff
or
or
at
full
force
staffing
levels.
But
despite
that,
I
think
we're
still
in
a
good
place
to
address
what
needs
to
happen.
C
D
C
Also,
just
to
answer
your
other
question
about
the
State,
Police
and
other
other
agencies
that
may
be
able
to
help
us.
We
still
have
a
partnership
with
the
State
Police.
They
pulled
their
officers
out
of
that
detail
for
the
moment,
because
the
challenges
that
they're
facing
with
covert
19
and
we're
looking
to
reinstate
that
partnership,
where
they
have
an
officer
periodically
riding
with
our
officers.
E
C
We
need
policing
our
city
unless
it's
absolutely
necessary,
because
I'm
not
confident
if
those
officers
have
the
community
oriented
focus
that
our
officers
have
I,
think
that
it
opens
up
a
possibility
of
there
being
misunderstandings
in
terms
of
interactions
between
police
and
members
of
the
community.
When
you
have
officers
who
aren't
from
here
haven't
been
trained
here,
don't
know
the
community
and
they're
just
coming
in
and
their
policing
ain't.
We
got
to
be
very,
very
careful
with
that.
I
wouldn't
rule
out
the
possibility.
C
E
C
This
is
why
I'm
optimistic
going
forward
is
because
we
have
a
plan
for-
and
this
may
be
for
the
first
time
in
a
while
certain
values
that,
certainly
since
my
time
and
in
the
immediate
immediately
before
I
got
here,
we
have
a
plan
in
place
to
get
this
police
department
fully
staffed
very
very
soon,
prior
to
the
challenges
that
colvett
has
presented.
We
had
a
plan
and
we
had
the
we
have
the
facility
we
had
the
numbers
of
recruits.
C
We
had
we,
we
had
everything
in
place
to
have
a
recruit
class
next
month,
up
between
40
and
50
officers,
or
recruits
enough
to
pretty
much
fill
the
void
that
we
have
in
terms
of
vacancies
in
the
police
department
and
those
that
we
did
not
fill.
The
plan
was
to
pick
up
those
in
the
next
Academy
class
at
at
the
beginning
of
2021.
C
But
despite
that,
despite
having
fewer
officers
that
we
planned
on
having
this
time,
we
still
have
a
plan
in
place.
That
will
happen,
but
we're
gonna
have
this
department
fully
staffed
by
the,
but
we're
gonna
have
the
numbers
anyway
by
the
beginning
of
2021,
because
we're
going
to
get
these
30
n
right
now.
Next
month
we
will
have
a
recruit
class
of
30
recruits
and
again
we
could
have
had
more.
C
We
have
the
capabilities
of
having
45
to
50,
we'll
have
30
now
and
we'll
get
them
through
and
we
may
lose
two
or
three
in
the
academy.
That's
usually
the
attrition
rate
in
these
academies,
so
30
go
through.
We
may
have
27
or
28
who
make
it
out,
we'll
have
another
class
that
will
hold
in
Jan
in
late
January
of
2021
and
we'll
have
the
capabilities
at
that
point.
C
A
F
But
at
least
we
see
you
there,
we
know
that
you've
been
working
hard,
I've
had
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
staffing.
Like
one
thought
came
to
mind.
There
are
other
communities
around
here.
Laying
off
is
that
an
opportunity
for
us
to
hire
I,
don't
know
you
know,
would
they
have
to
be
retrained
or
not,
and
my
other
question
is
with
the
rise
in
gun
violence
when
I
was
reading
the
paper
about
some
of
the
the
incidents
and
Troy
seemed
to
pop
out.
Could
some
of
this
stuff
be,
you
know?
F
C
So
take
your
second
one.
Yes,
what
we
found
is
that
just
like
in
in
other
cases,
the
the
first
of
all
we've
identified
these
individuals
who
were
involved
in
the
violence
we
know
who
they
are.
We've
made
a
number
of
arrests
already
and
those
who
we
haven't
arrested.
They
will
be
arrested
so
we'll
be
closing
those
cases
out,
and
we
know
what
the
source
of
the
violence
was,
and
in
some
cases
it
was.
There
was
some
troy
and
in
albany
nexus
us
connected.
C
He
was
involved
in
some
of
the
other
stuff,
but
in
most
of
the
cases
it
involves
just
what
we've
seen
over
and
over
and
over
again
groups
of
individuals
who
had
some
sort
of
conflict
that
allowed
it
to
escalate
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
rose
to
this
sort
of
violence
that
we
were
seeing.
You
know
when
we
peel
back
the
layers
to
all
this
stuff.
You
know
it's
it's
starting
over
a
social
media
post
where
somebody
felt
offended
you
know.
C
In
one
case,
it
was
a
person
whose
house
was
broken
into
and
when
he
went
to
address
it
with
the
people
who
broke
into
the
house,
they
disrespected
him
and
therefore
he
wanted
retribution,
and
it
just
so
happened
that
he
saw
these
individuals
on
the
street.
It
just
so
happened.
They
were
down
at
Madison
and
Grand
in
this
case.
Just
so
happened
to
see
him
there
by
happenstance
there
at
the
corner,
and
he
decided
to
get
his
retribution
for
this
for
this
burglary
at
his
house
at
that
time.
C
Yet
somewhere
there
was
a
feud
over
somebody
who's
whose
dog
attacked
somebody
else
and
they
shot
at
the
dog,
and
this
ignited
this
that
resulted
in
two
or
three
incidents
of
gunfire
and
it's
on
and
on.
So
it's
all
that
those
that's
the
source
of
every
single
one.
Is
this
kind
of
feud
or
conflict
among
one
or
two
or
a
group
of
individuals,
and
we
had
to
sort
it
out
to
figure
out
what
it
was.
Is
it
in
a
lot
of
case?
C
What
makes
it
so
difficult
for
us
with
this
is
that
it's
beer
is
spontaneous
in
a
lot
of
cases.
It
just
erupts
out
of
nowhere.
I
can
say
when
you
got
somebody
who
gets
disrespected
over
social
media
I
mean
it's
it's
hard
to
predict
it
or
anticipate
that
from
a
law
enforcement
perspective.
So
in
a
lot
of
cases,
we
find
ourselves
reacting
to
a
lot
of
the
violence
in
cases
like
that.
But
but
to
answer
your
question:
yes,
it
there.
We
know
what
the
source
is.
C
It's
identifiable
sources,
we
know
who
they
are
and
why
they're
doing
it,
we've
made
a
number
of
arrests.
We've
made
a
number
of
recoveries
of
firearms,
those
who
we
haven't
gotten,
yet
we
will
be
getting
them
fairly
soon
and
in
terms
of
layoffs
and
from
other
departments
and
opportunities.
Absolutely
we're
already
looking.
We
were
already.
In
fact:
we've
got
officers
from
other
departments
now
who've
been
reaching
out
to
us.
C
We've
got
three
or
four
already
who
are
saying
that
they
want
to
come
to
Albany
and
in
where
and
we're
entertaining
that
possibility
and
which
makes
it
beneficial
for
us
is
exactly
what
you
say:
we
don't
have
to
train
them
and
then
come
right
in
we
can
get
put
them
into
a
training
program.
Just
to
get
them
acclimate
it
to
the
Albany
way
and-
and
they
can
start
serving
now,
there's
always
a
possibility
that
they'll
go
back
to
their
departments.
C
Is
there
there's
no
secret
that
some
of
these
surrounding
departments
make
more
money
than
often
Albany
police
officers
make
and
there's
a
possibility?
We
could,
because
they
get
laid
off
of
some
of
these
other
departments
that
they
we
could
take
them
on
and
once
the
pressures
are
relieved
and
their
former
agencies
that
they
may
go
back.
But
you
know
that's
fine
to
the.
If
that
happens,
it
gives
us
some
temporary
relief
in
the
short
term
and
it
gets
there's
an
opportunity
to
get
our
academies
back,
fill
it
up
and
to
fill
those
gaps.
C
Yeah,
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
number
of
public
safety
announcements
and
working
with
the
media
just
to
encourage
people
to
add
ear
to
the
the
governor's
executive
orders
regarding
the
social
distancing
and
some
of
the
restrictions
on
large
gatherings
and
things
like
that.
Encouraging
people
to
go
to
the
state's
website
to
get
more
information
about
what
is
permissible
and
what
is
restricted
and
we
are.
We
are
going
to
have
some
extra
officers
out
in
the
community
during
this
weekend.
C
We
will
have
our
normal
cadre
of
officers,
but
we're
gonna
have
some
specialized
units
that
we
have
that
have
been
working
they'll
be
out
this
weekend
and
we're
also
going
to
pull
some
other
officers
out
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
we
have
some
visibility
and
the
ability
to
to
deal
with
any
other
spikes
in
inactivity
that
may
occur.
So
we
so
I'm
fairly,
confident
that
we
prepare
I
mean
this
doesn't
mean,
obviously
that
nothing
will
happen
because
you
know
I
was
asleep.
Sometimes
things
spontaneously
happened,
but
we're
prepared.
We
have
an
act.
C
G
Thanks
and
Thank
You
chief
I
also
was
listening
last
night
on
the
act
pack
forum
and
I
did
raise
a
couple
of
questions.
I
appreciate
the
answers,
but
let
me
make
some
observations
just
some
concerns
that
I
have
in
terms
of
your
you
know
the
ability,
staffing
levels
and
ability
to
provide
the
coverage,
but
I
think
this
is
you
know
the
first
summer,
in
effect,
where
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
what
I
see
is
reduction
in
the
availability
of
beat
officers
because
of
the
reorganization,
I'm,
still
not
sure
how
that
be.
G
G
My
concern
is,
you
know,
in
terms
of
the
class
you're
going
to
be
taking
in
which
originally
was
going
to
be
a
larger
class,
a
40
to
50,
and
it's
now
pared
down
to
30
and
I
forget
how
long
the
training
is
before
they
actually
are
able
to
hit
the
streets.
But
what
what's
the
possibility
or
probability
that
you,
you
know
you?
We
do
the
class,
the
30
their
training.
They
go
out
by
the
time,
they're
out,
you're,
confronted
with
additional
retirements.
G
That
may
well
put
us
back
where
we
are
today
or
maybe
even
in
a
worse
situation,
because
it's
hard
to
project
the
retirement
levels.
You
know
who's
going
to
retire.
You
don't
always
know
if
they're
going
to
take
retirement,
but
that
number
is
out
there
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
is
the
possibility
that
we
might
just
be
back
where
we
are
today,
even
though
you
have
a
new
class
coming
in
yeah.
C
It's
going
to
set
us
back
frankly,
another
six
months
in
order
to
from
where
I
was
projecting.
We
were
going
to
be
by
having
fewer
officers
in
this
class
right
now.
It
is
set
us
back,
but
we
will
get
there
and
once
we
get
there,
we
will
have
a
sustainable
model
that
will
minimize
chances
of
this
happening
again
in
the
future,
but
also
what
it's
going
to
do
in.
But
this
question
came
up
last
night
during
the
Facebook
forum.
C
It's
going
to
allow
and
in
fact
I
think,
Alfredo
asked
this
question.
This
is
going
to
allow
us
to
incorporate
those
regular
patrol
officers
into
our
beat
officer
concept.
So
in
fact
those
beat
officers
once
we
eventually
get
to
be
fully
staffed.
They
are
going
to
have
more
support
than
they
ever
had.
They're
gonna
have
more
resources.
They've
already
had
some
training
that
they
hadn't
had
before
those
beat
officers,
despite
having
fewer
of
them
and
having
larger
geographic
areas,
are
going
to
be
even
more
impactful
than
they
ever
have
been.
C
A
C
Mean
you
know:
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
it's
I
mean
we're.
Not
gonna
have
60
leave,
but
I
mean
it's
reasonable
that
we
could
have
you
know
it
half
dozen
or
more
they
decide
they
want
to
leave
during
this
year
and
you're
right,
it's
spec
will
absorb
and
we
will
make
name
and
because
the
people
in
the
department
know
that
in
the
community
yeah
we've
gotta
put
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we
get
these
field
and
that
this
we
net
and
there
we're
not
in
this
position
again
anytime
in
the
future,
because.
G
One
of
the
things
I'm
saying
I
mean
one
of
these
together,
obviously,
is
the
violent
crime
and
gunfire
etcetera
but
I'm.
Also
seeing
more,
you
know,
quality
of
life
issues
which
the
officers
are
well
equipped
to
deal
with,
because
they're
out
on
the
streets
they're
available-
and
you
know
it
is
concerned
about
that
as
we
move
into
the
summer
and
with
a
lot
of
things,
closed
down
less
activities,
you
know
dealing
trying
to
deal
with
some
of
those
issues
as
well.
Yeah.
C
Absolutely
and
as
we
move
out
of
kovat
and
we
get
more
comfortable
dealing
with
colvett
from
a
health
perspective,
both
with
our
officers
and
with
members
of
the
community,
our
officers
are
now
becoming
a
lot
more
proactive
and
done
with
these
quality
of
life
issues.
I
mean
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
know
a
lot
of
the
people
who
bad
things
in
our
community.
C
C
Here
we
were
dealing
with
something
that
was,
as
you
all
know,
I
mean
it
was
just
an
unprecedented
challenge
for
society
and
it
presented
some
unique
challenges
in
law
enforcement
and
law
enforcement
a
couple
weeks
or
so
in
order
to
get
our
footing
and
to
figure
out
exactly
what
all
this
meant
and
how
we
can
do
it.
We've
done
that
we've
made
some
adjustments,
we're
ready
to
get
back
to
doing
what
we
do
so
going
into
the
summer.
G
You're
going
to
be
also
getting
calls
from,
you
know,
residents
we're
going
to
be
calling.
Probably
you
know
the
central
number
about
issues,
and
you
know
sometimes
they
do
get
a
response
from
whoever's.
Taking
that
call
that,
from
their
perspective,
seems
dismissive
of
the
concerns
that
they're
expressing
and
that's
a
concern.
I
have
also
sometimes.
C
C
Acceptable
when
I
hear
that
people
feel
that
they're
being
dismissed
or
disrespected
when
they're
calling
for
service
that's
unacceptable
and
never
get
those
reports,
I
would
make
sure
that
those
things
are
addressed,
and
so
you
can
let
your
constituents
know
that
when
that
happens,
you
know
I
need
to
hear
about
it.
So
I
can
make
sure
that
we
have
the
appropriate
corrective
action.
G
H
H
There's
gonna
be
more
kids
out
on
the
street
and
and
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
issue
as
well
and
more
problems
as
a
result
and
I'm
wondering
have
there
been
conversations
about
that
and
how
the
police
will
handle
that,
because
our
officers
are
so
important
out
there
on
the
street,
the
bead
officers
in
particular,
in
dealing
with
our
youth,
we're
also
going
to
have.
We
won't
be
having
those
events,
I
assume
in
neighborhoods
that
have
been
very
popular
and
have
really
done
so
much
to
improve
relations
between
the
community,
the
youth
and
our
police.
C
Kathy,
that
is
a
huge
concern
for
us
in
the
police
department,
because
we
know
that
you
know
a
huge
crime.
Suppressant
is
having
a
very
active
Recreation
Department,
a
viable
Recreation
Department,
to
provide
an
outlet
for
our
youth
during
the
summer
months,
and
so
it
concerns
us
greatly
when
we
hear
that
their
likelihood
that
they're
going
to
be
some
programming
that
may
be
eliminated,
but
we're
seeing
this
happen
and
we're
already
making
some
plans
to
at
least
mitigate
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
foresee
with
this.
C
We
still
have
some
ideas
on
with
the
skeleton
crew
that
he,
if
that
is
what
happens,
that
we
can
still
do
some
things
in
our
neighborhoods
and
we're
talking
about
some
innovative
things
where
we
can
work
together
with
with
our
existing
staffs
during
the
summer
to
do
some
things,
and
so
you
know
we'll
talk
more
about
that.
You
know
I,
you
know.
C
Jonathan
and
I
still
have
some
more
conversations
yet
to
talk
about,
but
there's
there's
some
exciting
and
innovative
things
that
we
can
do
with
that,
and
you
know
we
have
a
very
viable
and
active
pal
program.
That's
still
doing
things
during
the
summer
months
and
you
know
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
support
that
and
see
if
there's
some
ways
that
we
can
even
expand
the
the
impact
of
our
Pell
program
right
now,
we're
doing
some
things
with
the
county
in
terms
of
expanding
the
some
of
the
offerings
to
our
youth
and
so
we're
gonna.
C
Look
for
some
other
collaborations
like
that,
both
with
public
and
private
sector
partnerships.
You
know
library
is
another
source,
you
know
so
we'll
be
getting
Scott
and
talking
about
some
things
that
we
can
do
and
our
schools.
Obviously
you
know
what
could
what
kind
of
resources
do
our
schools
have?
C
I
I
So
it's
not
a
single
family
with
kids
and
the
ranges
of
about
seven
to
about
fourteen
playing
together.
You
know
and
frankly,
I
love,
seeing
it.
On
the
one
hand,
on
the
other
hand,
they're
not
wearing
masks,
and
so
a
constituent
complained
and
I
asked
the
city
included
you
our
neighborhood
engagement
officer,
mr.
Galan.
What
is
the
city's
policy
with
regard
to
the
the
police
department
role
and
the
guidance
that
we
are
providing
to
neighborhood
residents
in
that
kind
of
situation
and
I
haven't
really
gotten
a
response
to
that?
C
Policy
in
our
position
with
this
is
education
and
awareness.
You
know.
Obviously
it
said
it's
an
executive
order
from
the
governor
and
there
are
some
enforcement
mechanisms
with
that.
There
are
some
mixed
messages
in
terms
of
the
enforceability.
You
know,
you've
got
a
perspective
at
the
state
level.
C
I've
got
a
slightly
different
perspective
at
the
district
attorney's
level,
and
you
have
an
even
slightly
different
perspective
at
the
local
level,
with
our
corporate
counsel
and
so
it's,
and
so
it
makes
it
difficult
and
it
puts
police
officers
in
awkward
positions
and
also
it
were
we're
very
reluctant
to
engage
in
activities
that
would
cause
some
long,
lasting
this
discontent
and
fracturing
their
relationships
with
members
of
our
community.
After
this
whole
thing
passes
so
yes,
officers.
C
If
we
get
calls
like
that,
they
respond
they
and
they
advise
the
individuals
who
are
non-compliant
that
or
who
are
in
violation
that
what
the
law
is
and
what
the
expectations
are
and
we
try
to
educate
them.
Make
them
aware
of
why
or
to
you
to
exercise
social,
social,
distancing
and
use
face
coverings
and
and
we're
even
now
having
having
a
practice
where
our
officers
are
even
taken
out
extra
masks
the
surgical
masks
to
give
out
to
people
and
I
mentioned
this
I.
C
Think
last
night
there's
been
some
times
when
people
just
simply
forget,
I,
think
and
they're
out
and
they're
at
the
grocery
store
or
they're
out
walking.
They
forgot
to
bring
their
face
coverings,
and
it's
not
that
they're
being
defiant.
It's
just
you
know
they
forgot
and
they
just
decided.
Okay,
yeah
I,
don't
feel
like
going
back
home,
and
so
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
us
in
cases
like
that,
to
you
know,
offer
some
education
and
awareness
and
then,
as
they
in
a
very
respectful
way,
offer
the
face
coverings.
C
For
those
who
may
have
simply
forgot
it,
and
we're
saying
is
that
people
are
receptive
to
that.
We
used
that
strategy
during
the
a
couple
weeks
ago,
when
we
had
the
demonstrations
at
the
Capitol,
and
there
were
a
number
of
people
who
were
didn't
have
face
coverings.
They
were
social
distancing
and
there
were
calls
for
the
police
department
to
take
this
enforcement
act.
C
We
should
arrest
people
and
and
do
all
these
sorts
of
things,
and
we
decided
as
much
better
strategy
under
the
circumstances,
to
educate
and
make
people
aware
and
then
provide
this
PPE
to
those
people
in
those
circumstances,
so
Judy
I
think
it's.
You
know
we're
very,
very
careful
about
fracturing
some
things
that
in
this
community,
by
going
in
with
this
higher
core
approach
of
you,
know,
issuing
citations
or
arresting
people
in
these
circumstances,
because
they
don't
have
face
coverings
or
social
distancing.
C
J
Okay,
chief
thanks
I
just
have
one:
have
you
changed
your
protocol
on
arrests
because
I
was
talking
to
the
fire
department
and
I
guess
if
they're
changing
their
protocol
when
they
come
in
contact
with
somebody
who
may
have
kovat
I
mean?
Are
you
like
documenting?
Maybe
the
obvious,
your
document
and
the
person
gets
arrested,
but
is
there
any
change
in
program
with
an
arrest,
yeah.
C
There
are
some
changes
in
in
terms
of
procedure
and
when
we,
because
first,
when
the
call
comes
in
to
dispatch
at
the
very
outset,
our
dispatchers
are
required
to
ask
us
ask
a
series
of
questions
to
give
officers
some
indication
of
whether
or
not
there
is
a
heightened
risk
person
either
having
it
or
or
someone
that's
nearby.
They
may
have
it,
and
if
there
are
some
heightened
risk
indicators,
then
the
officers
at
the
very
outset
use
some
different
procedures
in
terms
of
their.
C
You
know
how
they
contact
the
people,
the
protector
they
use
and
stuff
like
that,
as
well
as
if
it
results
in
an
arrest
what
happens
during
the
booking
procedure
and
then
subsequent
notifications
and
one
thing
that
that's
changed
a
little
bit.
I
think
this
is
for
the
better.
Is
that
now
we're
all
all
the
different
departments
are
communicating
a
lot
more
because
once
there's
you
know,
the
police
department
knows
that
somebody
is
potentially
a
risk
at
risk
of
Kovach,
we're
communicating
that
with
the
fire
department
and
with
codes
and
with
dgs,
and
things
like
that.
A
J
A
A
First,
the
grip,
the
fire
pits
and
the
grills
the
barbecue
grills
a
lot
of
folks
that
break
them
out
and
not
necessarily
in
the
backyard
I
can
use
Clinton
Avenue
as
an
example
where
you
can
ride
up
or
down
there
and
out
in
front
of
the
houses
there
grills
and,
of
course,
with
coal
bed
and-
and
you
know,
money
being
short
for
most
people.
A
lot
of
people
are
just
going
to
be
doing
with
staycations,
so
they'll
be
up
their
houses
and
he
plans
on
how
you
you're
gonna
deal
with
any
of
that.
Yeah.
C
You
know
this
is
the
first
I've
been
to
where
it
made
aware
of
that
issue
of
Kelly,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
and
I'll.
Get
back
to
you
before
this
week
is
out,
because
I
want
to
confer
with
our
officials
in
the
fire
and
also
so
we
can
make
sure
we
have
a
unifier
response
to
this.
G
To
get
collected
as
follow-up
because
I
any
part
of
the
issue
is
you
know,
I
have
had
some
contact
with
chief
Gregory
this
year
because
you
know
sort
of
becoming
an
incident
and
they
have
some
fliers
out
there,
which
says,
call
9-1-1
but
which
he
said.
Their
advice
really
is
to
call
the
central
dispatch
unless
it's
a
real
emergency
call
9-1-1.
G
But
I
guess
one
of
the
issues
you
your
day,
Padilla's
usually
get
some
of
these
calls,
and
I
did
have
a
recent
incident
where
someone
did
call
because
of
a
concern
with
a
fire
pit
in
the
backyard
that
was
going,
and
I
guess
the
response
was
well.
We
don't
know
anything
about.
What's
required
or
not
required,
and
so
I
guess
part
of
the
question
is
I
mean
it
is
a
Fire
Department
responsibility.
G
But
inevitably
you
know
you're.
The
APD
does
get
those
calls
and
wanting
to
what
extent
they're
aware
it's
also
a
very
sensitive
issue.
I
mean
you
don't
want
to
help
people,
you
know
no,
no,
you
can't
do
this
or
that,
especially
with
the
weather,
but
you
also
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware
of
the
safety
standards
that
they
need
to
take
to
prevent
potential.
G
You
know
fire
and
sometimes
structures
going
up
etc,
and
it
is
a
bigger
issue.
You
know
downtown
in
my
area,
other
areas
where
you
have
work
densely
populated
and
dense
neighborhoods,
but
I
guess
it's
a
question
of
you
know
the
fire
department's
not
gonna.
Do
some
hopefully
do
some
education,
so
people
understand
and
had
it
to
safely.
Do
it
and
word
you're
supposed
to
be,
but
as
I
say,
inevitably
the
APD
gets.
Those
calls
also
so
to
the
extent
that
they
are
aware
of
what
the
requirements
might
be
or
the
safety
standards
are.
G
D
I
know
we're
talking
about
fire
pits,
something
that
started
to
pop
up
again
recently,
a
fireworks
yeah,
there's
an
issue
around
this
time
of
the
year
and
I
know
well
I
I,
to
be
honest
with
you,
I,
don't
even
realize
Memorial
Day
was
this
weekend,
so
you
know
it
seems
like
it's
starting
early,
but
maybe
it's
starting
about
the
same
time
always
is
starting,
but
it's
always
an
issue.
It's
always
been
an
issue
with
its
nuts.
D
You
know
I
can't
cause
mainly
when
when
it's
beyond
ten
o'clock,
you
know
sometimes
as
late
as
midnight
or
even
in
we
early
morning.
What
are
we
doing
for
you
to
address
those
type
of
issues
and
concerns
cuz
I
feel
like
and
I
know
it's
gonna
get
worse
as
we
get
closer
to
July
and
it's
been
an
issue
for
some
time
now.
So
I
guess
and
I
know
what
short
stare.
So
it's
it's
like
whoa
we've
got
everything
else
going
on
and
now
you're.
D
You
know
you
know
I'm
not
sure
it's
that
high
of
a
priority
but
I
think
it
is
a
huge
I
know
it's
a
huge
disturb,
Institute
residence.
When
know
you
you're
trying
to
west
and
the
2:00
in
the
morning,
you
hear
a
big
firework
and
it's
not
good,
especially
if
anyone
who's
ever
experienced
any
type
of
criminal
activity
to
to
be
woken
up
to
those
type
of
noises.
D
C
I
think
one
thing
that
could
be
helpful
for
us
is
having
some
of
these
units
that
we'll
have
during
this
weekend
and
throughout
the
summer
that
it'll
be
working
covertly
and
because
one
of
the
challenges
in
enforcing
this
is
by
the
time
we
get
the
call
and
we
get
there
they're
gone.
You
know
we
just
see
the
aftermath
of
whatever
happened,
so
it
you
know.
C
Obviously
you
know
so
education
and
awareness
to
the
community,
something
that's
key,
you
know
make
you
know,
heaven
are
the
residents
in
our
communities
call
when
they're
seeing
people
setting
up
and
input
these
things
off
can
be
very,
very
helpful
in
terms
of
our
response
getting
there
before
they
leave
and
again
I.
Think
by
having
some
extra
units
out
on
the
street
that
are
working
covertly,
who
can
kind
of
you
can
get
through?
You
know
the
neighborhoods
and
kind
of
see
some
of
these
things
happening
and
then
take
some
the
appropriate
enforcement
action.
C
A
Okay,
Thank
You
chief
and
regarding
the
beats,
the
point
person
is
again
lieutenant
Dave,
correct,
yes,
okay,
so
that
members
can
get
his
contact
info
and
also,
we
briefly
touched
on
the
conversation
yesterday
regarding
beats
and
when
they
were
going
to
be
reassigned
or
temporarily
pulled
out.
We
like
some
kind
of
mechanism
for
the
councilmember
to
be
notified.
C
G
C
Possible
but
staffing
certainly
presents
a
challenge
because
to
fill
that
position
have
to
take
those
bodies
from
our
patrol
division,
which
is
hopefully
short
right
now
and
in
the
their
incurring
the
bulk
of
those
56
vacancies
that
we
have
right
now,
they're
coming
from
that
area
and
so
to
take
another
body
as
to
some
of
the
stress
in
that
area.
So
it's
not,
but
we've
got
away
with
what
the
impact
is
going
to
be.
Overall,
though,
sure.
A
A
A
It's
I
am
requesting
to
stop
to
all
outside
burning
in
all
of
Albany
County.
During
this
pandemic,
a
deadly
respiratory
virus
is
causing
a
high
risk
to
the
environment
in
general,
but
all
of
us
as
in
it
excuse
me
to
the
environment
in
general,
but
all
of
us
as
individuals.
My
neighbors,
are
frustrated
by
the
long
self
out.
Isolate
and
social
distancing
approaches
needed
to
control
this
ongoing
threat.
All
of
this
causes,
fear
and
anxiety,
are
very
limited.
A
Coping
choices
are
compromised
by
our
need
to
keep
our
windows
closed
and
not
be
able
to
enjoy
our
own
yards
because
others
are
creating
toxic
fumes
in
the
neighborhoods.
These
are
unprecedented
times.
Please,
please,
help
us
have
a
uniform
and
unite
approach
to
support
each
other
Thank
You
Carol
mayor,
so
that
was
it
for
the
public
comment
and
if,
once,
if
anyone
has
any
other
questions
or
comments,
we
will
take
them
otherwise,
I
entertain
the
motion
to
adjourn
Thank
You
chief
for
for
providing
us
with
the
updates
and
the
information
and
sure
we'll
talk
soon.