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The Committee discussed recent gun violence and the development of a plan to prevent violence in the city of Albany.
A
Good
to
go
okay!
Thank
you.
Everyone
welcome
to
the
this
emergency
meeting
friday
august
21st
of
the
public
safety
committee
of
the
albany
common
council.
I
will
for
the
record.
We
have
committee
members,
ballerin,
hoey,
frederick
and
I
go
present
and
in
addition,
we
have
council
members
pharaoh
o'brien.
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A
We
have
the
mayorship
of
staff
david
gallon.
If
I
miss
anyone,
I
apologize
with
the
chair
of
the
cprb
miss
morris,
our
city
auditor,
dorsey
of
police,
dr
dorsey,
clears,
is
also
here,
along
with
our
staff,
michelle
andre
senior
legislative
aide,
our
clerk
danielle
gillespie
and
our
research
council,
john
raphael
charlotte.
Forget
anyone.
Anyone,
oh
dr
paul
miller,
from
green
tech,
high
school.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
melanie
metzger
from
the
library,
joe
and
jimmy
everyone's
going
hands
up
generally
jimmy
chair
of
backpack.
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So
any
idea
is
to
have
a
conversation,
try
to
come
up
with
some
strategies.
I
mean.
Obviously,
the
lion's
share
of
this
responsibility
falls
on
the
police
department,
but
as
a
community
we
have
responsibility
also
in
in
keeping
ourselves
and
our
community
safe.
Like
most
of
the
members
here,
I'm
getting
calls
and
emails
and
text
messages
about
this
great
fear
of
of
crime.
Not
excuse
me
yeah.
They
are
crimes
but
gun
violence.
Folks,
don't
want
to
let
their
kids
leave
far
from
home.
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They
don't
want
to
leave
their
houses,
I
mean
the
fear
is
real
and
their
fear
is
is
confirmed
by
you
know,
deaths
and
incidents
that
we've
had
so
with
that.
What
I
want
to
do
is
if
any
of
the
the
committee
members
want
to
make.
You
know
a
quick
statement
or
comments
on
on.
Why
we're
here
or
why
we're
doing
this
we'll
feel
free
to
do
that.
A
So
any
of
the
committee
members
care
to
comment,
if
you
do
just
throw
your
hand
up
okay,
because
it's
pretty
obvious-
why
we're
here
so
with
that?
I,
I
think
I'll
start
with
the
police.
Well,
actually
any
other
council
members
have
any
questions
comments
just
leading
into
this
we're
gonna
have
the
police
department
speak
and
then
kind
of
folks
want
to
ask
questions.
They
can
yeah.
B
A
B
C
A
D
F
E
Sorry
about
that
good
evening,
everybody
on
this
on
this
friday
afternoon.
I
appreciate
everybody
coming
together
to
help
address
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
we've
been
dealing
with,
that
we've
all
been
dealing
with
at
the
police
department
here,
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
doing
I'll
start.
I
actually
organize
it
for
the
interest
of
time
when
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
focus
on
the
key
points
from
patrol
from
nau
from
investigations
and
some
of
the
other
outreach
initiatives
we
have
going
on.
E
If
there's
any
further
questions,
some
things
that
I
may
not
be
able
to
answer,
I
have
lieutenant
joe
mcdade
here
from
our
neighborhood
engagement
unit.
He
deals
with
a
lot
of
the
outreach
initiatives
that
we
do
have
here
at
the
police
department.
I
have
katie
clark,
who
is
our
anti-violence
coordinator
and
officer
christopher
english,
who's
one
of
our
school
resource
officers,
so
he
can
answer
any
questions
related
to
any
of
the
programs
involving
the
schools.
E
So
I'll
start
with
some
of
the
patrol
initiatives
that
we
have
going
on
in
reference
to
some
of
our
our
give
details,
which
is
the
a
grant
funded
from
the
state.
Some
of
our
from
our
violence
initiatives.
That's
what
the
gift
details.
When
you
hear
me
refer
to
the
give
details
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know.
That's
the
gun
involved,
violence
initiative
that
we
participate
with
new
york
state.
E
So
currently
we
have
officers
deployed
and
they're
deployed
based
on
crime,
stats
that
are
analyzed
and
compiled
by
our
crime.
Analysis
center
capital
region,
analysis
center-
that
is
housed
here
at
albany
pd.
Thankfully,
so
those
officers
are
deployed
to
a
certain
area
based
on
all
that
data,
and
hopefully,
with
that
visible
presence
of
the
patrol
officers.
E
That
is
the
objective
with
that
detail,
and
you
know
the
patrol
officers
they
they've
been
very
they've.
You
know
been
very
proactive
lately.
I
know
others
think
you
know
may
think
otherwise,
but
over
the
past
two
weeks,
patrols
had
over
10
gun
arrests.
Recently,
as
a
couple
days
ago,
we
had
a
somebody
call
the
police.
They
responded
within
seconds
they're
able
to
come
up
with
the
vehicle
of
a
person
with
a
handgun
in
the
car.
E
E
It's
kind
of
a
team
approach,
as
the
name
suggests,
so
moving
on
to
neu
any
officers
they're
also
now
getting
involved
more
in
some
of
the
lower
level
investigations
where
so,
if
our
innova,
if
our
crac
or
our
or
our
information
coordination
unit,
which
is
the
units
that
look
at
the
data
and
see
where
things
are
occurring,
if
they
see
an
address
that
has
a
repeated
call
for
service
whatever
that
may
be.
Obviously
it's
coming
up
as
an
issue.
E
Lieutenant
mcdade
is
having
his
officers
assigned
to
that
address
to
to
hopefully
resolve
the
issue.
That's
going
on
that
address,
they're,
also
working
on
a
new
initiative
that
they
recently
started.
You
know
yesterday,
maybe
even
today
they
did
that
pastors
on
patrol,
where
they're
teaming
up
with
one
of
the
one
of
the
pastors
in
the
neighborhoods
and
the
officers
are
walking
the
neighborhood
with
the
pastor
they're
doing
some
supervisor
directed
foot
patrols,
so
that
allows
flexibility
for
the
supervisors.
E
So
if
they
see
an
area
that
has
an
increase
in
gun,
violence
or
any
other
type
of
criminal
activity,
they
can
deploy
foot
patrols
in
those
areas
as
needed
and
then
still
working
on
our
on
our
other
initiatives.
The
lead
program,
pal
team
night
do
the
right
thing
program
and
things
like
that,
which
obviously
you
know,
help
to
to
to
help
keep
kids
busy
and
you
know,
hopefully
out
of
trouble,
which
is
the
goal
there
right
and
then
the
trespass
affidavit
program.
E
I
was
brought
up
in
some
of
our
past
meetings
with
some
of
you.
I
think
that
took
part
some
of
these
past
meetings
here
at
the
police
department,
some
of
the
council
members.
I
know
that
was
brought
up.
We
are
back
up
and
running
and
doing
that
participating
with
the
da's
office,
who
was
a
great
partner
with
the
trespass
affidavit
program
moving
on
to
investigations
which
so
for
some
of
you
don't
know,
my
responsibility
is
investigations
and
administrative
services
bureau.
E
E
Nine
out
of
the
12
homicides
we've
had
this
year
involved
a
gun,
so
there
were
homicides.
The
death
was
caused
by
the
handgun
and
three
of
those
were
closed
by
arrest,
so
just
to
give
you
a
quick
highlight
on
that,
so
investigatively
what
we're
doing
we're
increasing
our
collaboration
between
investigative
units,
whereas
in
the
past
we
have
our
children,
family
services
unit
that
that
handles.
You
know
that
into
the
house,
the
criminal
investigation
unit
and
the
community
response
unit
we're
now
kind
of
morphing
into
one.
E
E
All
the
you
know
a
lot
of
these
investigations,
whether
it's
a
shooting
investigation
where
an
individual
is
shot
or
a
homicide.
We
work,
we
work.
Those
investigation
work.
Those
investigations,
the
same
so
just
because
someone
didn't
die
doesn't
mean
that
we
don't
put
less
attention
to
it
and
that's
also
supportive
I'll
talk
further
about
is
our
give
program.
E
E
We
have
very
good
relationships
with
the
fbi,
dea
u.s
marshals
service,
as
well
as
state
police,
the
albany
county,
sheriff's
department,
the
da's
office
and
other
local
agencies
that
are
also
seeing
an
increase
in
violence.
So
we
see
sometimes
see
some
crossover
investigations.
So
we
work
very
closely
we're
constantly
communicating
with
these
other
agencies
and
and
even
more
so
now,
obviously
with
all
the
violence
going
on,
because
albany
isn't
alone,
with
this
increase
in
violence,
this
is
happening
across
the
state
and
across
the
country.
E
We're
doing
more
reviews
we're
doing
more
frequent
investigative
reviews
of
our
shootings
internally.
We
call
them
shooting
reviews
and
what
we
do
in
those
is
we
go
through
each
case
from
from
you
know,
very
basic
all
the
way
up.
You
know
the
whole
entire
case,
and
we
do
that
to
make
sure
we're
not
missing
anything
to
see
if
there's
any
connections,
to
get
everybody
in
the
room
and
make
sure
there's
we're
not
missing
any
other
opportunities
to
to
solve
the
case
or
to
prevent
further
violence.
E
We
still
have
the
the
void
list,
the
going
that's
been
going
on
for
you
know
for
a
while,
we
found
to
be
very
effective.
That
is
a
list
put
together
of
individuals
that
and
it's
based
on
a
and
a
scientific.
It's
it's
based
on
a
scientific
approach
as
far
as
how
that
list
is
put
together,
but
we
it's
the
violent
offender.
E
We've
recently
done
about
289
over
the
past
month,
I
believe
289
attempted
contacts
with
probationers
and
70
70
of
those
out
of
the
289.
We've
actually
made
contact
with
parole
another
one
of
our
partners.
I
forgot
to
mention
them
up
top
of
probation,
parole,
paroles
also.
They
are
still
tied
up
a
little
bit
with
some
of
the
covid
restrictions.
However,
they
are
still
whenever
we
need
assistance
from
them.
They
are
they're,
definitely
there
to
help
out,
and
then
we
also
have
our
camera
project.
E
Our
citywide
camera
project
that
we've
been
working
on
that's
been
a
great
asset
to
have.
We
put
them
in
our
busy
intersections
and
busy
areas
and
they've
been
very
beneficial
in
assisting
us
with
investigations
so
that
that's
that's
been
another
thing
that
we
worked
on
this
year
and
that
we're
applying
to
the
situation
to
help
quell
the
crime.
So
going
back
to
the
give
that
I
spoke
about
above
so
I
don't
know
who
is
or
who
isn't
familiar
with
give.
E
So
forgive
me
if
I'm
going
into
much
detail,
but
there's
different
components
of
give
and
the
ones
that
we
that
I
was
referring
to
up
top
are
the
hot
spot.
Policing
initiative
and
the
focus
deterrence
and
the
hot
spot
is
basically
what
I
explained
with
the
op
order,
where
we
find
areas
that
are
quote-unquote
hot
spots,
so
they
they're
areas
that
have
a
lot
of
gun.
Violence
that
we've
that
we've
discovered
that
are
a
problem,
a
lot
of
gun
violence.
So
we
deploy
resources
there
and
focus
deterrence
is
the
it's.
E
Basically,
those
visits
with
probation
and
parole,
so
part
of
the
given
initiative
is
also
our
gvi
group
involved.
Violence
initiatives
that's
been
difficult
to
do
because
of
covid
and
their
restrictions
with
kobit
we're
looking
for
ways
to
participate
with
that
again
with
the
national
network,
whether
we
can
use
a
virtual
like
a
zoom,
we're
looking
at
other
jurisdictions.
I
believe
newberg
is
the
one
that
they've
they've
come
up
with
some
very,
very
creative
ideas
using
zoom
and
using
other
platforms,
so
we're
looking
at
that.
E
E
Those
are
the
notifications
where
you
know
we
find
people
that
that
that
may
be
at
risk
to
be
involved
in
and
violence,
and
we
send
some
of
our
outreach
officers
to
them
to
discuss
either
give
them
services
or
just
have
a
conversation
with
them.
We
started
that
back
up
in
july,
obviously,
covid
again
hampered
that
effort,
but
we,
you
know,
we've
been
able
to
over
we've
been
able
to
overcome
that,
and
now
we're
successfully
implementing
that
and
the
we
have
many
re-entry
forums
that
we
do.
E
Katie
clark
is
one
that
generally
administers
those
with
with
her
staff
and
because
of
kova
they've
they've
been
canceled
as
well.
So
we're
going
to
look
at
them
and
see
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
in
that
regard
to
maybe
help
out
with
some
of
the
folks
that
are
that
are
leaving
the
facilities
and
re-entering
re-entering
in
the
neighborhoods
to
give
them
the
resources
they
need.
E
So
we're
working
with
that
and
seeing
how
that's
going
to
work
out.
But
you
know
that
that
is
a
good
thing,
and
so
we
maintain
our
communications
with
snug
anytime
there's
a
shooting,
they're,
they're
notified
and
they've
been
actively
involved
and
some
other
outreach
initiatives
we
have
are
with
our
school
resource
officer.
Like
I
said
officer
chris
english
is
here,
they've
been
doing
him
and
as
his
other
resource
officers,
that
he
works
with
they're
doing
welfare
checks
and
kids.
You
know
now
that
school
was
closed.
E
We
started
a
cadet
program.
Katie
clark's
been
working
on
that
as
well
the
cadet
program.
We
feel
that
will
assist
with
recruitment
and
help
again.
That
also
helps
with
our
anti-violence,
because
you
know
we're
getting
out
there.
It's
positive
things
we're
putting
out
there
and
it
helps
with
recruitment.
E
It
was
a
big
challenge,
as
well
as
some
of
the
unrest
and
all
the
other
changes
that
were
going
on
so
being
able
to
navigate
that
as
well
as
low
staffing.
You
know
it's
been
a
challenge,
but
you
know
we're
we're
working
through
it.
We're
persevering
and
we're
hopeful
that,
maybe
maybe
some
some
of
you
have
some
ideas
to
bring
to
the
table.
E
E
A
A
But
when
I
have
I
I
want
to
hear
from
you
know
what
both
commissioner
jones
likes
dr
miller,
on
any
ideas
or
ideas
you
have
on.
You
know
working
on
this
issue
that
we're
having,
but
I
do
have
a
a
couple
of
questions.
Well,
I
want
to
ask
a
question
or
two
and
then
I'd
like
to
allow
some
of
the
council
members
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
of
apd.
A
Also
so
I'll
I'll
ask
my
two
and
then
we'll
kind
of
skip
around
ask
and
then
we'll
move
on
and
try
to
get
input
from
other
folks,
but
so
and
so
for
me,
I'm
trying
to
I
mean
the
ultimate
question
is:
what
can
we
do
to
support
you?
But
but
first
question
is
how
many
confirmed
shots
fire
events
have
we
have
we
had
in
the
city.
E
A
Okay
and
again,
the
question
thing
is
for
my
partners
is:
we
need
to
know
if
we're
gonna
know
where
we're
going,
we
need
to
know
where
we're
at
and
where
we're
coming
from.
That's
why
I'm
asking-
and
my
second
question
about
in
with
this-
is
that
the
ages
of
the
perpetrators
and
victims?
What
what
what
kind
of
ages
are
we
seeing?
There
is
a
young
kids?
Is
it
you
know
teenagers?
E
E
E
E
A
G
Thank
you,
deputy
chief
donohue,
so
my
questions
coming
from
just
wanting
to
ensure
that
our
neighborhoods
are
going
to
get
what
they
need
going
forward
so,
for
example,
the
shooting
that
took
place
this
week
on
moore
street.
After
that
I
did
go
out
with
my
beat
officer
and
we
walked
door
to
door
to
check
in
on
the
neighborhood
and
during
that
walk
as
well
as
after
the
fact
and
going
into
today.
G
I've
received
some
feedback
that
that
neighborhood
they
have
seen
a
big
increase
in
police
presence,
but
prior
to
the
homicide,
they
saw
bare
minimal
to
to
no
police
presence
in
their
neighborhood.
So
you
did
say
that
there's
going
to
be
increased
visibility,
they
have
acknowledged
that.
But
I
just
want
to
make
sure
in
terms
of
like
timing:
do
we
foresee
that
visibility
continuing
on
or
is
this
for?
G
E
It's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
continue
and
some
of
the
challenges
we
had
prior
to
this
was
just
you
know.
It
was
so
spur
it
would
move
so
much.
But
so
that's
why,
when
I
referred
to
the
nau
supervisors
being
able
to
change
the
beats
around
when
they're
supervisor
initiated
they'll
have
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
to
move
those
beats
and
those
officers
around
faster.
E
So
we'll
have
that.
So
if
we,
if
we
need
to
see
like
a
quick
change
in
an
area,
we
can
quickly
deploy
those
officers
and
then
we
can
adjust
some
of
our
other
bigger
op
orders
as
well,
but
you
yes
moore
street
and
any
other
street
that
sees
an
activity
such
as
that
you
will
see
an
increased
police
presence.
H
One
thing
I
would
love
to
say,
and
I
know
it's
not
possible
now.
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
assets
the
city
of
albany
ever
had
was
the
ymca
and
washington
avenue
you
had
teen
teen,
night
basketball
and
this
and
that,
but
besides
that
you
had
friendships
that
grew.
I
was
a
member
there.
35
years
I
made
friends
and
still
friends
with
people
that
I
played
hoop
with
for
years.
H
We
have
to
make
something
happen
between
these
younger
kids.
Okay,
so
that
this
thing
doesn't
just
keep
growing.
We
have
to
think
the
future
as
much
as
we
are
giving
so
much
concentration
on
this
right
now
and
the
other
thing
that
chief
talked
about
last
night
was
our.
You
know
the
great
intelligence
we
were
getting-
and
I
know
he's
meant
the
fbi
and
atf
and
this
and
that,
but
you
know
I
I
don't
you
tell
me
where
tap,
where
it's
helping
us.
H
It
seems
to
maybe
help
after
the
fact,
but
not
before
the
fact
that
it's
you
know
what's
going
to
pop
up.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
you
know,
so
thank
you
for
being
here,
chief
stay
on
top
of
it.
I
know
you
got
some
good
guys
working
on
it
joe
day,
daryl
coming
in
on
it
now
I
pray
for
the
best.
Thank
you.
A
A
I
J
Hello,
chief
thanks
for
being
here,
you
know
if
you're
an
alcoholic,
you
gotta
admit
you
have
a
problem,
we
have
a
problem
and
it's
not
going
down
too
good.
As
councilman
I
go
said,
I'm
getting
calls
left
and
right,
I'm
getting
calls
from
people
downstate
saying
what's
going
on
in
albany,
are
you
in
danger?
Where
do
you
live
people
hear
albany
and
the
shots
fired?
We
have
the
governor
upset
about
it.
We
got
a
real
problem
that
we
really
need
to
do
something
about.
J
I
have
a
concern
that
you
know
where:
where
is
the
union
with
our
officers?
I
know
officer
mcgee's
been
on
complaining
about
certain
things.
Maybe
he
should
be
at
this
meeting
tonight
to
get
his
input
but
going
around
and
having
our
offices
without
a
contract
for
years
now
and
people
leaving
left
and
right
we're
losing
our
neighborhood
officers
are
leaving
they're
retiring,
and
this
just
cannot
continue
on,
and
we
know
that
good
staffing
and
having
a
presence
in
all
of
the
city
is
super
important.
J
So
I'd
like
to
know
what
your
thoughts
are,
can
we
get
a
contract
for
these
guys
they're
putting
their
lives
on
the
line?
What's
going
on
and
the
second
part
councilman
johnson
brought
up
at
our
meeting.
We
don't
have
any
type
of
community
centers
or
anything
for
our
kids
to
to
play
to
enjoy.
Yes,
we
have
covered,
but
that's
reality.
Now
we
got
to
deal
with
it
and
we,
it
might
be
here
for
another
two
three
years.
We
need
to
do
something
now
and
this
just
cannot.
J
This
violence
is
just
going
to
cascade
and
get
worse
and
worse.
We
need
to
do
something,
so
I
I'm
throwing
a
lot
at
you,
I'm
annoyed.
I
wish
I
could
do
something
I'll,
let
you
know
there
was
a
big
party
down
the
street
from
me.
I
wouldn't
talk
to
the
people
worked
with
the
police.
We
were
able
to
get.
It
broke
up
and
calm
the
neighbors
down,
but
you
know
we
all
need
to
work
together
and
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
solve
these
problems.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
so
far
to
answer
your
first
question
about
the
contract.
That's
something
I
can't
even.
I
have
no
involvement
really
in
that.
Unfortunately,
that's
that's
a
union
issue
right
now.
They
have
a
legal
issue.
They
have
that
they're
dealing
with
and
until
that's
resolved
the
city
can't
negotiate
with
the
officers
for
the
union.
So
that's
that's
out
of
my
wheelhouse.
E
It
is
unfortunate
because
a
hundred
percent
they
need
they
need
a
current
contract.
But
there's
not
that's.
That's
completely
out
of
our
power,
even
even
the
chief
hawkins,
it's
out
of
all
of
our
power.
As
far
as
I
agree,
100
with
the
the
the
activities
for
the
kids,
so
we're
open
up
to
suggestions,
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things.
E
I
guess
that
could
be
that
that
we
could
do
and
if
I
think,
if
everybody
puts
their
heads
together,
we
can
maybe
come
up
with
some
solutions.
But
you
know
that
goes
beyond
the
police
department
as
well.
You
know,
but
we're
open.
You
know
to
any
suggestions
and
if
any
partnerships
that
we
can
come
up
with
to
help
with
that.
A
B
E
B
Oh,
thank
you
and
another,
our
camera.
Why
a
camera
video
have
we
can
you
tell
me,
have
we
the
number
that
we
might
have
the
number
of
people
we've
rested
because
of
our
camera,
video
when
it
comes
to
gun
violence,
number
of
arrests
we've
been
able
to
make
because
of
those
cameras
being
able
to
view
those
cameras
and
then
follow
up
and
make
a
substantial
arrest.
E
You
know
all
the
the
recent
data
and
violence
that
happened
in
those
areas
and
he
placed
those
cameras
strategically
and
had
them
positioned.
In
a
way
I
mean
the
one
caught
the
homicide
completely
on
it,
so
they've
been
they're
very
successful.
So
this
year
alone
I
can
say
off
the
top
of
my
head:
there's
been
over
two
homicides,
probably
even
more
that
were
captured
on
those
cameras
and
that
homicide
that
I'm
mentioning
in
particular
an
arrest
may
not.
E
B
E
K
Hi
everybody.
I
count
the
president
alice
so
the
lead
program
for
some
of
you
that
don't
notice
in
law
enforcement,
assisted
diversion
program,
individuals
that
are
arrested
for
low-level
low-level
offenses,
that
have
mental
health
issues,
they're,
homeless
or
addicted
to
drugs
or
alcohol.
They
could
be
diverted
and
not
actually
formally
charged
into
this
diversion
program
and
as
long
as
they
follow
some
of
the
protocols
with
the
social
workers
or
the
case
managers
that
charge
is
never
resurrected.
K
Recently,
the
lead
officers.
We
have
a
lead
committee
in
the
city
of
police
department,
I'm
actually
meeting
with
them,
often
and
we're
working
together.
The
neighborhood
engagement
unit
is
working
hand-in-hand
with
lead
officers
now
going
out
in
the
officers
individual
respective
beats
and
diverting
people
who
are
problems
in
their
beats,
and
hopefully
these
aversion
tactics
can
one
get
rid
of
the
problem
and
help
the
person
become.
You
know
better,
healthier
get
a
home
to
live
in
or
that
kind
of
stuff.
F
L
Thank
you
chief
for
being
here
this
evening.
So
my
question:
can
everybody
hear
me:
okay,
okay,
my
question
revolves
more
around
the
give
funding.
Now
you
said
that
there's
two
evidence-based
strategies
that
are
predominantly
being
employed,
which
is
the
hot
spot
policing
and
also
the
focused
the
focus
deterrence.
E
So
we
complete
regular
reports
that
we
hand
over
to
the
state
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
up
until
the
the
recent
challenges
you
know,
coven,
namely
the
first.
It's
been
very
successful
and
I
think
you
can
measure
that,
with
the
numbers
that
we're
seeing
around
the
state
with
gun
violence,
it
was
it
was
down.
If
you
look
at
the
average
it
was,
it
was
at
a
low,
it
was
definitely
at
a
low
and
then
come
to
march.
Covet
hits
and
obviously
all
the
challenges
with
that.
E
So
we
saw
our
first
big
jump
in
march
and
then
it
escalated
from
there.
So
getting
back
to
your
question
on
the
success
of
it-
and
you
know,
I
think
up
until
march-
is
a
reasonable
measure
to
use,
and
it
was
definitely
successful
because
our
gun
crime
numbers
were
good
up
until
then
and
then
now
from
march
till
now,
we
saw
that
jump
because
of
the
various
challenges
that
we
had.
So
I
don't
think
we
can.
E
You
could
say
it
would
be
fair
to
say
that
the
give
program
is
not
working,
because
you
know
all
these
other
challenges,
so
I
think
it's
definitely
successful.
In
my
personal
assessment,
I
think
it's
very
successful.
It's
data
driven
there's
a
lot
of
research
behind
it,
a
lot
of
resources
behind
it
and
that
the
state
provides
and
it
also
it
it
allows
for
a
collaboration
more
of
a
collaboration.
So
we
work
with
john
jay
college
with
ceasefire,
which
is
all
the
group
of
violence.
E
The
group
violence
initiatives
through
john
jay,
where
we
do
the
the
call-ins.
So
it's
there's
it's
like
a
layered
approach
where
you
have
our
enforcement
and
we
have
our
preventative
programs,
so
I
think
it's
very
effective
and
also
snug
as
part
of
that.
So
I
think
it's
a
very
effective
program
and
I
and
I
think
that
you
know
it's
something
we
should
keep
around
and
continue,
and
you
know
these
challenges
always
some.
This
is
what
we
have
to
deal
with
now.
E
F
L
Okay,
and
so
when
you,
when
you're,
saying
that
it's
successful
when
you
talk
about
the
hot
spot,
policing
where
you
are
identifying
the
areas
where
violent
crime
is
more
prevalent
for
areas
such
as
you
know,
west
hill,
it
still
remains
an
issue.
So
how
successful
do
you
believe
those
strategies
are
in
eliminating?
L
You
know
the
gun,
violence
in
an
area
such
as
a
west
hill,
and
is
it
time
to
look
at
some
other
strategies,
and
I
know
that
one
of
the
other
strategies
is
environmental
design
enhancements
to
environmental
design.
One
of
the
things
when
you
look
at
the
areas
of
where
the
violence
is
most
prevalent,
they're
very
accessible
by
the
highway
system.
L
E
Yes,
that's
also
part
of
the
the
give
program
this
this
cycle-
we're
not
funded
for
that,
but
our
officers
are
trained
in
septed
and
we
we
use
that
approach,
whether
it's
the
trimming
trees
create
lighting
some
of
the
other
designs,
the
roadway
designs,
things
that
I
think
you've
mentioned.
So
we
do
use
that
as
well.
L
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's.
I
think
that
policing
strategy
is
effective
because
it's
based
again,
I
think
it's
it's
based
on
it's
driven
by
data,
so
we
are
going
where
the
crimes
occurring.
The
community
is
calling
us
there
so
from
a
policing
standpoint.
It's
effective,
I
think
maybe
get
to
your
point.
We
need
to
have
more
collaboration
to
prevent
the
kids
from
getting
to
that
point,
because
you
know
we
do
the
best.
We
can
only
do
so
much
as
a
police
department.
E
You
know
we're
responding
to
shootings
and
responding
to
activity
and
crimes,
but
if,
if
getting
back
to
some
other
points
made,
if
we
can
prevent
the
kids,
the
individuals
to
you
know
from
doing
this
in
the
first
place,
then
I
think
that
leads
to
success.
So
I
think
the
strategy
is
good,
because
it's
it's
kept
control
of
it's
kept
resources
where
they
need
to
be,
and
it's
provided
us
with
resources.
So
we
can
allocate
those
resources
where
they
need
to
be,
but
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
police
department.
D
Yes,
good
evening,
everybody,
so
thank
you
everyone
for
being
here.
I
think
this
is
good
dialogue.
I
just
wanted
to
a
couple
thoughts
and
a
couple
questions.
I
think
I
just
want
to
know
if
we're
really
identifying
what
the
true
issues
are,
and
some
of
the
issues
that
you
know
seem
to
be
coming
to
fruition
are
a
few
things.
D
I
think
I
think
people
have
already
said
that
covet
has
been
a
huge
issue,
because
people
are
bored,
they
have
nothing
to
do
they're
stuck
in
small
spaces
without
whether
they're
not
working
there's,
not
a
lot
of
outlets
going
on.
So
it's
creating
other
issues,
so
you
know-
and
I
think
overall,
how
do
we
create
outlets?
How
do
we
create
more
opportunities?
How
do
we
do
things
that
are
more
proactive
instead
of
reactive?
I
think
that's.
D
That's
one
thought
and
I
think
if
we
could
put
our
heads
together
and
be
more
proactive
instead
of
reactive,
I
think
that's
great,
I
think
the
reactive
is
necessary.
The
policing
is
obviously
necessary.
We
need
to
get
the
guns
off
the
street.
We
need
to
do
everything
that
you
guys
are
doing,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
more.
D
D
There
are
there's
there's
some
that
are
older,
some
that
are
younger,
but
the
majority
are
between
21
and
34.
so
that
they
are,
they
are
young
men
who
are
out
of
school
already
and
who
aren't
necessarily
kids
anymore,
but
these
are
adults
who
have
fallen
through
the
cracks
and
need
some
additional
supports
and
need
some
help.
So
I
I
mean
if
we
could
look
at
and
really
target
that
age
group,
that
area
to
find
a
way
to
place
the
supports
and
kind
of
retrain,
some
of
the
communities,
ways
of
thinking
and
doing
things.
D
That
may
be
an
opportunity
for
us
and
and
even
though
these
are
21
to
34
year
olds,
also
a
lot
of
what
I'm
hearing
where
this
is
coming
from.
And
you
know
I'm
not
I'm
not
from
here.
But
you
know,
I've
lived
here
for
nine
years.
Now
is
the
uptown
downtown
issues,
so
the
uptown
downtown
issues
are
still
happening
and
occurring,
and
these
are
grown
grown
behind
men
that
this
is
a
crying
with,
and
it's
happening
with
little
kids
and
it's
happening
with
grown
men.
D
It's
happens
with
older
and
there's
people
arguing
over
two
and
a
half
miles
of
real
estate
that
nobody
owns
so
until
we
can
do
something
to
change
this
mentality
that,
where
that's
a
necessary
argument,
we're
going
to
be
spinning
our
tails,
because
people
are
they're
standing
up
for
something
and
for
for
what
you
know
and
don't
really
necessarily
even
understand
what
they're
stand
up
for.
They
stand
up
because
their
uncle
stood
up
for
it
and
somebody
down
the
line.
D
Let's
put
our
heads
together
and
come
up
with
some
proactive
items,
and
how
do
we
change
some
mindsets
here,
because
the
uptown
down
thing
town
is
absolutely
no
offense
to
anybody.
But
it's
absolutely
ridiculous
to
me.
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
when
it's
two
and
a
half
miles
apart
from
each
other,
you
can
throw
a
rock
and
be
on
the
other
side
of
albany.
N
N
E
So
our
you're
being
monitored
as
far
as
our
probation
and
parole
initiatives,
and
we
monitor
that,
along
with
our
give
strategy,
we
monitor
all
those
numbers
so
anytime
we
go
out
and
check
on
a
probationer
or
a
parolee.
We
we
monitor
all
those
all
those
outputs
and
they're
kept
track
of.
I
think
you're
talking
about
two
separate
things.
I
think
I
think
you're
you're
also
talking
about.
Are
you
talking
about
the
arrests
of
the
kid
kit.
E
E
So
some
of
the
changes
in
the
laws
are
definitely
a
challenge
for
us,
because
in
the
past
we're
able
to
you
know,
find
you
know,
arrest
an
individual
who
may
be
causing
problems
and
they
would
get
him
off
the
street
for
a
period
of
time
and
now
we're
not
able
to
do
that,
and
that
was
part
of
our
strategy
because
oftentimes
you
take
there's
a
very
small
percentage
of
these
of
these
people
that
are
are
really
violent
of
their
trigger
pullers
right.
So
we
can,
if
we
can
eliminate
them
from
the
equation.
E
It's
always
very
helpful
and
we're
successful
with
that.
So
now,
with
some
of
the
new
things
that
we're
all
adjusting
to
it's,
making
it
more
difficult.
So
that's
that's
something
that
you
know
we're
tracking
and
we're
just
adjusting,
but
it
isn't
you
know.
Sometimes
you
know
just
to
be
perfectly
frank.
You
know
these
individuals
are
being
arrested
and
they're
they're
going
right
back
out
on
the
street
and
that's
just
the
way
the
laws
are.
So
that's
really
something
that
we
just
have
to
adjust
to
and
overcome.
O
E
So
so
out
of
the
homicides
for
this
year,
five
were
closed
by
arrests.
Oh
the
number
three
you're
getting
from!
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
so
nine
of
the
homicides
are
gone,
are
gun
related
homicides,
so
some
other
homicides
of
death
was
caused
by
something
other
than
a
firearm
right.
So
nine,
nine
out
of
the
12
homicides
were
firearm
caused
or
related
and
out
of
those
nine
three
of
those
were
closed
by
arrest.
E
O
And
I
just
want
to
piggyback
off
of
what
dr
miller
said.
You
know
I
hear
that.
There's
the
issue
with
the
with
the
bail
reform
and
stuff,
like
that.
What
steps
like?
What?
What
other
steps
can
the
the
police
department
take
that
do
not
require
a
rest
and
holding
in
a
county
jail
like
there's,
got
to
be
some
other
proactive
means,
maybe
gathering
together
all
of
the
different
initiatives
that
are
working
towards
gun
violence
and
having
some
kind
of
a
regular
meeting
with
them?
O
You
know
an
actual
involved
advisory
committee,
I'd
like
to
see
that
there
are
involved
citizens
on
these
tasks
like
on
these.
These
committees,
like
the
lead
and
the
stuff
like
that
like
so
we
can
start
getting
reports
back
and
somebody
that's
actually
there.
That's
not
just
police
department,
like
I
I
agree
like
this-
is
gonna
have
to
get
way
more
proactive
than
reactive,
because
reactive
is
just
picking
bodies
up
so
like.
I
would
like
to
see
how
the
the
police
department
can
can
adjust
in
a
proactive.
E
O
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
both
like
it's.
It's
a
reinfor
like
I'm,
reinforcing
what
dr
miller
said,
that
it's
important
that
we
be
proactive,
but
also
two.
What
other
steps
can
you
take
if
you've
been
if
the
ability
to
arrest
and
hold
some
of
these
individuals
has
been
taken
away?
What
can
be
done
in
replacement
for
it
so
that
it's
proactive,
realistically
arresting
them
and
holding
them
in
county
jail
is
reactive,
the
person's
already
been
shot.
So
what
other
steps
like
I?
E
Yeah,
so
we
we
currently
do
and,
like
I
said
with
the
covenant
stuff,
is
slowed
down
because
of
the
the
you
know,
the
different
issues
surrounding
cobit,
but
we
have
the
mirrors
form
so
so
individuals
that
are
getting
reacclimated
coming
out
of
the
facilities
that
provides
them
services
and
guidance
to
to
basically
re-entry
into
you
know
back
into
the
neighborhood.
So
we
do
those
we
have
snug.
We
have
prevention.
E
E
We
could
build
upon
and
maybe
do
things
like
that-
have
a
community
forum
like
that
where,
when
we're
doing
those
cease-fire,
when
we're
doing
those
call-ins
where
you
guys
go,
participate
and
and
then
we
also
at
the
end
of
the
forum-
everyone
sits
down
and
we
provide
food
and
usually
it's
good
food
and
you
sit
down
and
everybody
eats
and
talks.
And
you
know
and
it's
it's
it's
a
positive
thing.
So
that's
that's!
E
Probably
something
we
already
have
in
place
that
that
goes
to
right
to
your
point
as
well
as
like
the
professor
services
efforts
that
we
have
in
other
programs
that
we
already
have,
but
you
know
just
being
real,
just
being
real
frank
with
you,
some
of
these
you
know
there's
very
few
people
that
are
actually
violent,
shooters
it
you
got
to
be
pretty
violent
to
to
pick
up
a
gun
and
fire
it
at
somebody
else,
and
there
you
know.
So
there
is
that
police
strategy
where
we
still
have
to
you
know.
E
Some
of
these
people
are
just
people
that
they
have
to
be
removed
from
the
situation.
So
I
think
there's
that
small
percentage
there
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
address,
and
then
everybody
else
these
other
programs
are
excellent
for,
and
I
think
we
could
reach
them
and
I
think
that's
where
we
would
get
our
our
biggest
success.
P
E
We
communicate
regularly-
and
personally
I
do
as
well
with
the
chiefs
and
the
command
staff
of
both
troy
schenectady,
and
you
know
we
talk
on
a
regular
basis
and
there
is
some
overlap
with
troy
a
little
bit
with
schenectady,
with
some
of
our
some
of
our
residents
going
over
there
and
and
some
of
their
residents
come
over
here.
So
we
talk
on
a
regular
basis
and
deconflict
and
work
together.
It's
excellent.
F
E
C
Q
Q
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
now,
oh
hi,
how
are
you
so?
I
did
put
some
things
in
the
chat
and
I
appreciate
everybody.
They
did
touch
on
some
of
the
things,
but
I
want
to
elaborate
on
some
of
the
issues
that
were
brought
up,
which
were
you
know,
the
relationship
with
the
other
cities
space
programming
in
our
collaborations.
Q
My
question
is:
how
are
we
proactively
collaborating
with
community
leaders
and
non-profits
or
groups
who
actually
impact
the
direct
family
setting,
and
I
don't
want
to
just
say
just
the
the
I
don't
know
what
you
guys:
call
the
people
who
were
shooting
or
involved
in
the
acts.
But
how
are
we
doing
preventative
services
centered
around
trauma
informed
care
besides,
depending
on
snug
and
their
resources.
E
So
we
have,
we
have
our
prevention
services
unit.
Here
we
have,
we
also
participated
with
lisa,
good
and
urban
grief,
and
she
was
part
of
the
give
the
give
program
before
and
now
she's
attached
to
another
state
agency.
So
we
still
work
with
lisa,
so
you
know
we
we
use
her
as
a
resource
as
well.
So
if
so
any
trauma
response
anybody
involved
in
any
type
of
trauma,
we
we
use
her
expertise
and
resources,
as
well
as
the
snug
resources.
E
So
there's
there's
a
lot
of
social
work
and
psychological
resources
out
there
between
lisa
snug
victim
services,
professional
services
and
I'm
missing.
I
think
I'm
missing.
We
also
we're
in
discussions
with
another
individual
who
is
a
nurse
and
she
wants
to
potentially
go
out
in
the
community
and
help
out
with
with
some
of
the
issues
as
well,
with
some
of
the
aftercare
with
individuals
that
are
shot
so
we're
not
still
in
infancy
stages,
but
so
we're
we're,
always
working
and
looking
for
other
resources
to
help.
Q
E
There
always
is,
you
know,
we're
we're
always
willing
to
listen
to
you
know.
Whatever
whoever's
you
know
wants
to
bring
some
idea
to
the
table.
You
know
she's
really
good
about
letting
people
come
in
here
and
hearing
it
hearing
him
out.
That's
why
he's
in
meetings
all
day,
so
he'll
he's
good
like
that.
So
if
anybody
has
any
ideas,
just
bring
them
to
our
attention
and
we're
happy
to
listen
to
them.
Q
Okay,
thank
you
and
then.
Secondly,
I
believe,
and
through
my
outreach
and
conversations
in
the
community,
one
of
the
biggest
boundaries
that
we
see
are
access
to
jobs.
Now,
although
we
do
have
a
high
concentration
of
jobs
available
in
the
city
of
albany,
especially
before
cove
at
19,
there's
a
boundary
with
a
certain
population
of
people
where
they're
not
able
to
get
identification,
so
they
can
sustain
employment
and
they
are
not
able
to
connect
to
get
properly
serviced
connected.
E
Yeah,
I
mean
absolutely-
I
mean
we
use
we
work
with
trinity.
Quite
often
now
we
also
talked
about.
I
brought
up
our
cadet
program
there,
which,
which
is
offering
employment
to
individuals
from
the
city
here
so
again,
we're
always
willing
to
to
listen
to
ideas
and
and
and
work
with
any
partnerships
that
that
you
know
that'll
help
the
cause
to
help
make
things
better.
H
E
You
know
I
can't
definitively
say
I
mean
drugs.
Oftentimes
are
part
of
some
of
the
violence
that
we
see
some
of
the
the
the
homicides
that
we've
seen
the
shootings
have
definitely
been
personal,
but
I
can't
definitely
say
on
you
know
exactly
how
many,
but
there's
definitely
at
some
of
these
is,
I
think,
it's
fair
to
say
that
there
would
be
some
type
of
drug
nexus
on
some
of
them.
H
E
M
R
On
you
yeah,
the
the
question
I
was
asking
was
whether
there
is
what's
going
on,
is
random,
or
is
there
some
kind
of
strain
of
organization,
not
necessarily
formal,
but
the
the
youth
and
the
other
people
being
in
a
a
social
and
a
community
kind
of
of
their
own,
so
that
that
they
are
not
part
of
the
the
community
itself?
But
they've
got
an
organizational
thing
going
on
either
formal
or
informal.
E
M
O
E
There's
four
spots
part
time:
it'll
be
12
hours
a
week
and
so
that's
four
jobs
of
hopefully
few
police
officers,
and
then
they
can
also
spread.
The
word-
and
you
know
in
the
neighborhood
of
you,
know
more
some
more
positivity
and
help
help
with
recruitment
which
again
will
help
out
with
being
able
to
recruit
good
police
officers,
which
will
which
will
help
quell
some
of
this
violence
and
and
hopefully
they're
from
the
community.
S
Hi,
thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone,
a
few
questions,
comment
and
a
comment,
also
question
initially
to
you
kelly
as
chair
of
the
public
safety
committee.
I
know
that
in
our
talks
with
the
equity
agenda,
legislation
that
was
passed,
the
intent
was
to
convene
a
violence
prevention
task
force
each
year,
and
I
know
that
it
takes
time
to
implement
legislation.
So
just
was
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
just
in
terms
of
planning
for
next
year,
because
we
know
that
there's
an
uptick
in
violence
every
summer.
S
S
S
S
We've
seen
this,
like,
I
said
since
I
I
was
on
the
council
for
about
six
years
and
every
year
now,
some
years
we
saw
a
higher
spike,
but
there's
been
a
consistent,
significant
amount
of
violence
every
summer.
So
I
think
we
also
have
to
be
clear
about
what
the
factors
really
are
and
if
we're
saying
it's
you
know
covet
is
playing
a
factor
like
clearly.
A
I'll
go
first,
since
the
question
was
for
me:
first,
the
the
violence
prevention
committee,
we're
supposed
to
put
together
as
a
part
of
the
equity
agenda,
we're
working
on
it.
We've
I've
had
staff
working
on
putting
something
together
because
we
were,
I
think,
there's
a
consideration
of
the
gun.
Violence
and
you
know
restarting
the
gun,
violence
task
force
that
from
years
ago,
but
that
was
a
totally
different
animal
than
what
the
equity
agenda
called
for
to
be
created.
A
A
E
E
E
Last
year
we
had
13
hit
this
year.
We
had
65.,
so
I
mean
without
doing
a
further
analysis.
This
is
just
just
you
know,
quick
off
the
top,
my
hair,
looking
at
just
a
a
breakdown
right
here.
It's
I
don't
see
how
you
couldn't
conclude
from
that
that
cova
doesn't
have
a
significant
impact
on
on
our
numbers.
Shooting
incidents
involving
injury,
your
five
year,
average
14
that's
from
15
to
19..
Last
year
we
had
13
this
year
we
had
49..
E
S
E
The
link
being
made
is
just
the
time
the
timing
of
it
I
mean
these
numbers
are
numbers
that
I
haven't
seen
in
my
20
plus
years
here,
they're
also
occurring
throughout
the
united
states
throughout
the
state
they're.
Seeing
the
same
pattern
of
time
where
you
see
april
covet
hit,
you
know,
gets
in
full
effect
and
you
know
sometime
around
st
patrick's
day,
and
then
we
see
the
increase
and
I'm
connecting
it
because
I
know
our
police
operations
were
severely
impacted
because
we
couldn't,
you
know
they
were
limiting
contact.
E
People
were
now
at
home
and
not
able
to
do
other
other
things
to
keep
them
occupied.
Stress
levels
were
increasing
the
lack
of
police
productivity
because
of
covid
resulted
in
a
it's.
You
know
resulted
in
more
opportunity
for
people
that
engage
this
behavior
to
flourish
and
the
numbers-
and
you
know,
in
my
opinion
the
numbers
definitely
show
that
and
like
I
said,
we
could
do
a
more
in-depth
analysis
on
it.
M
S
L
Yes,
that
you
know
like
you
can
go
a
portion
of
third
go
up.
Third
street,
that's
the
one
with
street,
but
then
you
can,
you
know,
hit
quail
and
then
go
down
first
street
and
that
first
person
quail
street
area
is
one
of
the
most
violent
portions
in
in
the
in
the
in
the
district
and
same
thing
for
second
and
judson.
L
S
Okay,
yeah.
The
point
that
I
was
making
was
just
based
on
the
his
the
historical
conversations
with
councilman
mark
robinson.
There
was
a
sentiment
that
people
in
the
community
felt
that
they
were
because
of
because
of
some
of
the
strategies
that
were
put
in
place
because
of
issues
such
as
this.
In
the
past,
the
larger
community
felt
that
they
were
being
inconvenienced
because
of
the
redesign
and
just
wanting
to
be
mindful,
as
we
talk
about
how
to
implement
strategies.
Moving
forward
is
done
in
a
way
and
it
sounds
like
you're
getting
community
senses.
S
S
F
P
Yeah
so
part
part
of
you
know,
I
agree
with
the
first
part
of
what
you
the
points
that
you
were
making,
because
if
we
remember
in
december
or
january
of
this
year,
I
was
talking
about
a
gun
problem.
We
had
several
guns
taken
from.
I
think
it
was
15
down
to
as
young
as
12
years
old.
So
you
know
when
you
hear
the
covet
talk,
it
gets
kind
of
depressing.
P
It
gets
defeating
because
you
know
we're
not
talking
about
how
we're
gonna,
you
know
move
through
this.
You
know
people
are
looking
when
they
come
to
meetings
like
this
when
they
listen
to
us
talk
about
gun
violence,
they're
looking
to
hear
us
talk
about
proactive
approaches,
and
you
know
I
see
some
comments
about.
P
We
need
to
be
reactive,
but
you
know
the
city
needs
to
show
reactiveness
towards
this
stuff
before
it
gets
to
this
point,
and-
and
so
I
was
just
saying
about
and
and
the
support
with
councilman
robertson
is
saying-
is
that
you
know
in
the
past
the
the
nature
of
what
we
were
dealing
with
is
different.
Now
you
know,
like
the
chief,
is
pointing
out
data
he's
using
data
points,
but
we
live
in
these
communities.
P
You
know
so
you
know
it's
it's
error
in
the
data,
but
it's
no
error
in
the
the
days
and
the
nights
that
we
live
in
our
communities
and
the
experiences
you
know
that
you
that
you
face
personally,
so
you
know
when
you
talk
about
and
when
we
talk
about
things,
changes
it's
like
we
get
hit
with.
You
know,
we'll
do
a
study
and
see
you
know
if
that
that
works
instead
of
listening
to
the
community.
Who
knows
who
see?
Who
saw
this
act
in
real
time?
P
You
know
they're
knocking
down
buildings
in
our
community,
but
they
don't
realize
that
some
people
are
parking
their
car
on
one
street
and
they
running
through
on
the
cracks
in
those
buildings
and
they're
going
over
there
and
they're
shooting
and
they
running
back
to
their
car
and
they're
driving
off.
So
you
know,
like
real
time
in
our
community,
looks
different
than
people
coming.
You
know,
after
something
happened,
you
know
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
look
the
same
for
the
people
who
experience
it.
P
C
Just
just
to
follow
up
on
dr
o'leary's
question,
we're
still
in
the
very
early
stages
of
crafting
the
2021
budget,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
mike
wheeler
is
cognizant
of
that
provision
in
the
equity
agenda.
Legislation
to
make
sure
that
it's
very
clear
what
funds
are
being
allocated
to
to
fulfill
the
requirement
in
the
legislation
about
funding
for
violence
prevention.
Q
F
C
T
Thanks,
thank
you
all.
I
just
wanted
to
sign
on
to
what
dr
clears
and
what
dr
miller
said.
I
think
that
for
us
to
move
forward
and
maybe
get
to
a
different
place
at
this
time,
because
we
are
in
a
different
time,
then
maybe
we
need
to
really
talk
about
resources
for
safe
outlets
for
the
young
people
in
these
communities,
especially
what
we
consider
hot
spots.
T
I
do
think
too
that
this
is
the
time
for
us
to
kind
of
have
those
really
hard
conversations
about
why
it
is
that
there
are
hot
spots
as
opposed
to
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
the
same
issues.
So
I'd
really
like
to
talk
about
how
we
maybe
expand,
because
I
what
I'm
thinking
about
is
to
approach
it
from
a
harm
reduction
stance
as
opposed
to
a
punitive
stance,
and
I
think
eva
bass
was
talking
about
that.
T
How
do
we
allocate
force
funds
to
make
sure
that
our
youth
is
given
safe
opportunities,
safe
outlets
for
job
opportunities
for
after-school
programs?
I
know
covet
is
going
on,
but
while
we're
not
able
to
meet,
maybe
we
could
think
about
the
ways
that
we
can
smartly
use
funding
to
kind
of
be
proactive
as
we're
saying
instead
of
reactive.
So
that
was
only
my
statement.
T
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that,
but
one
more
thing,
I'm
sorry
one
more
thing
is
that
I
think
that
we
also
need
to
really
really
consider
the
deep-seated,
systematic
things
that
are
in
our
system
that
we
all
deal
with
we
in
order
for
us
to
change
this.
We
have
to
really
talk
honestly
about
the
things
that
affect
people
differently
in
different
neighborhoods,
and
that
goes
with
gun
violence
because
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
that
don't
experience
that.
So
why
is
that?
T
T
I
A
Right,
okay,
yeah-
he
was
going
to
be
next,
but
just
to
miss
morris's
point
that
that
violence
prevention,
section
of
the
equity
agenda
was
built
to
deal
exactly
with
those
issues
and
making
sure
resources
get
to
places
to
to
to
help
stem
the
tide
of
violence
and
and
equity.
So
I
know
you're
finishing
up
on
the
board
you're
on
I'll,
be
looking
for
you
for,
for
the
equity.
Excuse
me
for
the
violence
prevention
task
force
also
so
get.
A
U
U
U
Does
that
also
now
include
probationers
or
other
persons
at
risk,
because
I
agree
with
you
a
lot
of
very
strong
comments
and
very
you
know,
speeches
that
are
made
and
talks
that
are
made
really
do
get
to
you.
But
what
is
the
target?
Are
you
targeting
people
who
have
the
potential
for
this
or
just
people
that
are
coming
out
of
prison?
You
know
you
should
be
bringing
in
some
younger
people-
that's
my
point,
especially
probationers
or
other
people
at
risk
and
my
other
you
can
get
to
those
answers.
U
But
I
want
to
make
one
comment-
and
this
might
be
showing
my
my
age
here,
but
when
I
first
got
out
of
school.
My
first
job
was
running
a
small
neighborhood
youth
center
on
el
dorado
place
and
in
that
youth
center
we
it
was
a
drop
in,
and
that
was
one
of
the
advantages
because
you
have
kids
coming
in
that
had
no
place
else
to
go.
So
we
got
involved
with
the
after
school
work.
U
We
got
involved
with
a
lot
of
other
things
and
got
involved
with
the
needs
of
those
kids
and
their
families,
because
it
was
just
in
that
one
little
neighborhood.
It
was
a
very
costly
cost,
effective
way
of
doing
it.
I
was
the
only
full-time
employee
and
believe
me,
I
wasn't
making
much
the
others.
We
had
part-time
c
employees
and
volunteers
come
in
to
work
with
these
kids,
and
sometimes
we
get
anywhere
from
30
to
50
kids
in
a
night.
U
So
that
again,
just
in
that
one
small
neighborhood
and
I
think
that's
the
type
of
thing
that
you
really
need-
is
programs
and
focusing
on
small
neighborhoods
to
bring
kids
in
and
give
them
some
place
to
go
again
like
it
was
mentioned
before
you
just
have
the
ywc
ymca
used
to
have
the
you
know.
The
boys
club
was
very
active.
U
E
Yep,
so
getting
to
thanks
joe
so
get
into
your
question
about
the
call-ins.
Yeah
probation
is
involved,
it's
probationers
parolees,
and
I
think
you
know,
unfortunately,
that
that's
that's
the
best
way
to
get
everybody.
There
is
through
those
resources.
So
that's
how
we
get
those
that
population
there.
I
don't
know
if
it's
open
to
you
know
any
other
population,
but
yeah
federal
probationers,
but
definitely
definitely
probationers
are
there.
So
we
can
try
to
capture
that
population
as
well
as
a
parole
population.
E
So,
like
I
said,
yeah
we're
gonna
get
back.
We're
gonna
try
to
get
back
to
doing
those
because
they
are
effective.
You
know,
as
as
you
stated,
and
then
to
your
question
on
the
the
officers
and
that
they're
assigned
to
the
neighborhoods
under
that
new
team
policing
concept
which,
which
I
shouldn't
say,
is
new:
we've
done
it
before
we're
getting
back
to
it
now.
E
Officers
are
we're
trying
to
focus
where
they're
assigned
more
to
that
particular
neighborhood.
More
often,
it's
not
a
perfect
system
depending
on
scheduling.
You
might
not
always
achieve
that,
but
we're
pretty
close
in
achieving
that
where
the
officer
will
know
the
neighborhood
that
they're
working
in
and
work
hand-in-hand
with
the
neu
officer.
U
Okay,
if
I
could
have
one
follow-up,
then
with
the
call-ins,
it
did
start
with
just
with
parole,
I'm
glad
to
see
probation
involved
in
now.
But
what
other?
Couldn't
you
have
other
community
referrals
like
from
snugger
some
other
community
agencies
that
are
identifying
at-risk
people,
so
they
can
hear
this
message.
E
Yeah,
that's
something
we
can
discuss
with
you
know,
maybe
I'll
get
with
katie,
we'll
go
with
the
national
network
and
go
over
their
model
and
see
if
it
fits
with
their
model.
But
again
this
is
based
on
david
kennedy's
research
and
everything,
and
you
know
it's
an
evidence,
evidence-based
system
so
we'll
have
to
get
with
them
and
see
if
how
that
fits
in.
But
but
I
mean
it's,
it's
that's
a
good.
You
know
that
that's
a
good.
J
H
Hello,
yes,
I
just
want
to
piggyback
on
what
joe
and
jeremy
was
saying
you
know
years
ago
we
had
a
lot
of
teen
centers
in
the
schools.
They
just
fell
apart,
but
it
might
be
an
easy
way.
You
have
facilities
if
you
get
something
like
that,
going
again
being
drop-in
centers
and
in
order
to
be
difficult
with
the
covet,
because,
having
a
hard
time
open
up
the
schools
itself,
but
it's
something
I
think
we
have
to
start
looking
at
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
O
Question
for
clarification.
I
actually
have
two
questions
for
well,
one
one's,
a
follow-up.
I
was
hoping
that
that
council
president
ellis,
would
ask
again,
but
when
is
the
report
for
leave
going
to
be
available
because
it's
been
some
time
since
we've
had
a
report
and
I'm
interested
to
know
what
those
lead
diversions
look
like
as
well
and
the
second
one.
So
we
had
call-ins
in
previous
years
we
had
call-ins
during
2018
when
we
had
the
highest
number
of
homicides
in
several
years.
Are
we
are?
O
E
J
J
E
A
A
A
V
Heard:
okay!
Well,
I'm
glad
I
was
invited
to
this
meeting
mastery
in
troy
right
now
at
an
event,
but
I
definitely
wanted
to
listen
in
as
much
as
I
can,
and
I
heard
a
lot
of
things
everybody
was
saying
and
I'm
glad
people
did
mention.
You
know
the
ymca,
I'm
glad
people
did
mention
getting
more
things
for
the
youth
to
be
involved
in
and
that's
one
thing
for
us.
V
V
You
know,
and
that's
one
reason
why
I
I
got
on
a
call
late,
because
rensselaer
county
right
now
got
a
grant
going
on
that
ends
today
and
we
wanted
to
get
it
in.
So
we
can
get
some
of
the
troy
youth
over
here
involved
as
well.
So
I'm
working
on
both
sides.
We
were
able
to
build
from
the
from
the
give
grant.
V
We
were
able
to
build
a
partnership
with
albany
police
and
troy
police,
and
I
meet
I
meet
with
them
once
a
month
in
a
joint
meeting,
which
was
a
meeting
that
used
to
be
separate
and
it
really
it
wasn't
no
participation
from
the
troy
side,
but
I
was
able
to
go
there
and
knock
on
the
door
and
make
that
connection.
So
one
of
the
detectives
meet
with
me
and
katie
clark
every
month,
and
you
know
we
shared
valuable
information
with
each
other.
V
They
present
us
with
valuable
information
about
who's.
You
know
who's
out
there,
who's
known
or
who's
coming
home,
and
that's
one
of
the
main
things
that
we
see
a
lot
of
people
that's
coming
home
and
I'm
sorry
because
they're
on
the
mic.
In
the
background,
if
some
people
can't
hear
me
also
wanted
to
talk
about
our
social
worker
component,
because
this
has
been
a
very
strategic
part
of
our
dealing
with
the
youth
right
now
having
them
meet
with
our
social
worker,
have
our
social
workers
meet?
V
I
just
wish
I
just
wish.
We
can
do
something
more
about
the
social
media
and
you
know
we
meet
your
families
who
house
been
shot
up
two
three
times
and
of
course
we
know
if
they
can't
identify
nobody,
that
you
know
ain't
much.
The
police
can
do,
but
we've
been
working
with
these
families
trying
to
provide
extra
funds
for
them
to
be
able
to
move
trying
to
assist
them
with
ovs
applications.
V
V
But
now
the
culinary
class
has
shut
down,
and
you
know
everybody
don't
take
into
coding
as
much,
but
that
culinary
class
was
an
important
class,
because
you
know
it's
teaching
people
how
to
feed
themselves
and
they
get
their
ged
and
stipend
and
yeah
we're
just
looking
for
more
collaboration
and
different
ways
to
get
the
community
involved.
I'm
actually
got
a
meeting
with
even
with
cross
gates
more
tomorrow.
V
You
know
so
we
can
try
to
help
stop
some
of
the
stuff
out
there,
so
we
trying
to
network
and
get
our
tentacles
and
and
as
much
as
we
can.
But
you
know
we're
only
so
much
so
I
don't
want
to
keep
talking
and
I
want
to
give
other
people
opportunity
to
talk.
But
any
was
any
question
directed
at
me
besides
that?
V
A
I
did
anyone
have
questions
for
mr
brown,
I
I
just
thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
You,
you
enlightened
us
and
we
know
you're
out
there
doing
the
work,
and
I
would
argue
that
if
we
can
get
the
the
violence
prevention
task
force
together
and
that
that
any
any
funding
that
might
be
allotted
to
that,
I
would
argue,
could
be
used
for
for
some
of
the
purposes
that
you
outlaid
to
to
help
stab
the
some
of
the
violence.
A
So
we'll
take
a
look
at
that
moving
forward
and
then
I'll
I'll
be
talking
to
you.
You
have
access
to
the
council
in
any
way.
We
can
help
you.
Let
us
know
and
thank
you
for
doing
what
you
do.
Thank
you
any.
No,
more
questions,
no
questions.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
mr
brown,
for
taking
taking
the
time
and
then
I'll
just
give
mr
jones
opportunity
with
mr
brown
was
just
talking
about
programming
and
we
know
programming
aids
and
helps
him
in
steven
some
of
the
violence.
A
W
Yeah
just
first
and
foremost,
this
affects
me
personally:
I've
lost
brothers,
I've
lost
cousins,
lost
uncles
to
gun
violence.
So
half
my
body
is
inked
up
memorializing
this.
So
this
is
a
personal
thing
for
me,
and
last
year,
when
dr
players
called
the
meeting
at
green
tech,
we
were
able
to
work
in
the
city
to
find
funding
to
support
that
program
at
green
tech
afterwards,
and
then
I'm
just
going
to
touch
on
a
few
things,
there's
preventative,
there's
restoration
and
then
there's
some
exploratory
stuff.
W
I
want
to
talk
about
the
first
thing
being
the
preventative
stuff.
So
one
of
the
things
we
have
is
the
program
that
jerome
brown
talked
about
at
the
sea.
Center
was
funded
by
the
department
of
youth
workforce
services,
as
well
as
the
boys
and
girls
club
had
some
funding
for
that,
so
the
culinary
and
I.t
at
the
seat
center
and
then
at
the
boys
and
girls
club.
It's
about
music
production
and
programming,
that's
going
to
be
starting
up
soon,
but
that's
only
for
16
to
24
year
olds
in
and
out
of
school.
W
The
other
thing
is
my
brother
and
sister's
keeper.
President
obama
started
that
in
2015
and
we
adopted
that
right
now
we
have
35
people
that
went
through
that
program,
that
is,
for
out
of
school
youth,
who
have
not
been
in
school
for
a
while
and
have
some
type
of
interaction
with
some
agency.
Most
of
those
referrals
either
come
from
snug
or
from
some
of
our
foster
care
system
providers,
and
then
the
compass
rose,
which
is
for
folks
who
are
re-entering
our
community
back.
W
We
have
46
people
in
that
there
was
stipends
that
were
provided
in
that
and
then
let
me
talk
about
some
of
the
exploratory
stuff
through
the
federal
dollars.
This
kind
of
goes
back
to.
I
think
it
was
miss
morris's
comment
about
stipends
and-
and
you
know
doing
more,
with
federal
flexibility
in
dollars.
W
We
can
provide
stipends,
it's
called
ojt
on
the
job
with
businesses.
It's
almost
like
somebody
gives
you
an
internship
you're
paid
on
that
for
eight
weeks,
and
then
you
end
up
working
at
the
business
long
term.
The
challenge
is,
and
I'm
gonna
be
just
completely
honest
about
it.
The
challenge
is
the
parent
engagement,
we're
working
with
kids
younger
than
16.
W
We
need
parents
to
support
and
get
the
documents
and
the
paperwork
in
in
order
for
us
to
use
this
money,
that's
just
something
that
is
put
into
the
regular
excuse
me,
the
regulations
of
the
stipends
and
the
regulations
of
the
programs
and
then
the
last
things
about
the
tuition
assistance.
If
someone
is
interested
in
going
to
school
for
something
whatever
that
may
be,
they
can
come
into
our
office
at
175,
central
or
382
clinton,
and
they
can
come
in
and
because
of
wioa.
W
There
is
no
extra
paperwork
stoppage
that
you
need
to
do
or
targets
you
need
to
meet.
If
you
want
to
identify
training
and
you're
eligible,
we
can
put
you
in
a
training.
Now,
I'm
not
blaming
convict
because
we
have
not
stopped
providing
services
since
march
13th.
However,
the
reality
of
the
training
providers
is
there's
very
few
that
are
offering
training
right
now
because
of
kovic.
W
So
I
believe
that
you
know,
after
september
14th
or
maybe
september
29th
after
schools
open
up
that
more
training
providers
will
open
their
doors
and
we'll
begin
to
work
with
that,
the
unions
have
been
more
open
to
working
with
us.
We
had
a
meeting
about
a
week
ago,
so
some
of
those
construction
jobs,
as
well
as
the
port
of
albany,
has
been
open
to
the
idea
of
creating
a
pipe
pipeline
to
those
organizations
and
to
get
people
working.
W
Those
are
good-paying
jobs,
everyone's
seen,
amazon
and
their
their
push
there
and
one
of
the
big
pieces
that
we
were
hoping
for
was
the
census.
We
all
know
where
that
is
now,
and
the
government
decided
to
cut
it
back
by
a
month
and
then
scale
down
our
regional
approach
there.
But
I
say
all
of
that
just
to
say
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day
in
our
department,
we
like
to
hire
the
people
who
live
in
the
community.
So
that's
everyone
on
our
staff
lives
in
the
city
of
albany
and
then.
W
So
those
are
the
two
things
there
and
then,
lastly,
on
the
community
centers,
we
hope
to
be
reopening
the
governor's,
provided
some
information,
we're
going
to
work
with
our
staff.
Now
that
summer
camps
is
over
and
some
are
youth,
we're
going
to
figure
out
a
way
to
open
up
or
be
a
little
creative.
For
example,
the
boxing
gym
the
governor
has,
you
know,
made
mentions
about
what
type
of
ventilation
systems
you
need.
So
how
can
we
be
creative
there?
W
F
X
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
hearing
about
the
drop-in
centers
and
you
know
the
programming
that
the
city
is
trying
to
do
for
our
youth,
and
I
understand
that
there
are
challenges
I,
as
I'm.
Listening
to
the
conversation,
I'm
recalling
my
time
on
the
school
board,
in
which
I
had
a
great
level
of
frustration
that
we
could
not
get
essentially
universal
after-school
programming
or
an
extended
school
day
minimally.
X
And
and
camps
and
summer
programming
for
every
child
and
actually
essentially
require
parents
to
enroll
their
kids
in
those
programs
to
make
sure
that
they
have
that
kind
of
supervision
unless
the
parent
is
at
home
or
or
the
other
guardian
is
at
home
and
they
have
other
specific
plans,
something
I
think
that
we
should
be
thinking
about.
Thank
you
that's
my
comment.
E
H
E
S
Thank
you
I
just
wanted
to
and
I'm
sure
jerome
is
busy,
but
I
appreciated
his
comments
and
I
want
to
recognize
that,
even
though
we
are
all
living
through
this,
we
are
a
few
steps
removed
from
it
and
we
have
people
like
jerome
who
who
is
in
his
team,
who
are
in
this
day
in
and
day
out.
He
talked
about
some
of
the
grants
that
that
their
organization
is
able
to
benefit
from
right
now
and
help
the
community.
S
But
can
we
have
a
conversation
about-
and
you
know
we're
talking
about
the
problem
but
actually
putting
some
dollars
behind
it?
Some
resources
in
lua
not
having
the
the
monies
budgeted
for
this
particular
year,
but
is
there
an
opportunity
to
support
the
work
that
they're
doing
right
now,
since
we
are
in
the
midst
of
a
crisis
and
they
are
building
a
car
driving
at
the
same
time
putting
out
fires,
and
so
just
putting
that
out
there
to
all
of
my
colleagues
on
the
call?
S
How
can
we
support
their
work,
whether
it's
through
public
funding,
but
also
our
networks,
private
funding?
Can
we
tap
our
resources?
Our
networks
help
to
raise
some
money.
Everybody
is
talking
about
the
city
of
albany
and
scratching
their
heads
about.
Oh,
this
is
a
this
is
a
damn
shame,
but
the
question
is
what
you're
going
to
do
about
it,
and
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
volunteer
myself
to
help
with
raising
some
money
to
help
the
work
that
they're
doing
right
now
in
the
midst
of
this
crisis
that
we're
dealing
with.
S
S
The
bus
was
half
full,
not
even
half
full,
and
I
personally
had
to
go
to
my
mentee's
house
who
lives
in
my
ward,
and
I
talked
to
her
grandmother
about
the
program
she
said.
You
know
there
was
a
few
things,
but
she
was
scared
about
sending
her
baby
away.
You
know,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
different
issues.
S
S
Grand
mommy
could
not
fill
out
the
application,
and
so
it
was
my
mentee
who
actually
helped
me
fill
out
the
application
on
her
behalf,
so
that
I
could
submit
it
and
then
I
had
to
really
stress
to
her
grandmother
the
importance
of
her
being
able
to
take
advantage
of
this
program,
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
have
those
kinds
of
conversations,
because
we
can
create
our
platoon
all
the
opportunity
in
the
world
and
we
can't
mandate
parents
to
do
things.
You
know.
S
S
So
these
conversations
can't
happen
in
a
vacuum
and
it
can't
the
solutions.
Aren't
just
this
group
talking,
because
we
are
not
the
answer.
We
don't
have
the
answers
and
we
need
to
be
sensitive
to.
You
know
the
the
depth
of
the
challenges
that
that
the
neighborhoods
are
dealing
with.
So
I
just
I
I
I
felt
it
was
important
to
say
that.
A
Thank
you,
dr
pliers,
so
in
in
closing
really
the
meeting
was
you
know
about
discussing
recent
gun,
violence
and
and
developing
the
plan.
I
think
this
is
a
good
start.
We're
talking
a
conversation
we
had
here.
There
are
a
lot
of
dots
popped
up
and
myself
as
public
safety
chair
and
by
committee.
The
public
safety
committee
I'd
like
to
see
us
connect
some
of
those
dots,
I'm
gonna
reach
out
to
dr
miller,
the
beginning
of
next
week.
A
I
just
wrote,
do
something
in
in
the
big
x
three
exclamation
points
after
we
really
have
to
keep
moving
on
this
issue
and
keep
doing
things
because
we
lives
are
being
lost
and
and
not
only
that
I
mean
families
that
are
afraid
to
let
allow
their
kids
to
go
out.
It's
impacting
our
lives
as
much
as
covert
is
so
that's
all
I
had
and
what
I
would
like
to
do
actually
is
end
in
silence.