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From YouTube: Monday, March 8, 2021 Public Safety Committee
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THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSEDE THE CITY OF ALBANY’S POLICE REFORM & REINVENTION COLLABORATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASKED QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PLAN (resolution 26.31.21R)
B
Okay
thanks
and
welcome
everyone.
I'm
kelly
kimbrough
council,
member
from
the
fourth
ward
and
chair
of
the
common
council's
public
safety
committee,
welcome
to
our
march
8th
meeting
where
we're
discussing
the
police
reform
collaborative
and
our
our
resolution
that
we're
gonna
be
dealing
with,
as
as
it
relates
to
that
for
the
record
members
of
the
committee
that
are
here,
councilman,
hoey,
councilman,
igo
and
myself.
B
B
Okay,
so
thank
you.
So
we
have
our
full
public
safety
committee
here,
just
I'm
just
seeing
who's.
Who
else
is
in
the
room?
Well,
okay,
just
also
just
for
the
record.
We
have
dr
green
from
the
center
for
law
and
justice
here,
as
well
as
joe
mancini,
chair
of
our
violence,
prevention
task
force
and
some
members
from
the
task
force,
melanie
metzger
from
albany
public
library
and
mr
brian
shea,
from
the
city
of
albany.
B
So
what
we
in
these
last
few
meetings
that
we've
had
we've
we've
kind
of
been
going
back
and
forth
with
the
idea
of
a
plan
and
folks
saying
they
want
it
more
and
and
but
I
mean
it
is
a
plan
on
its
face,
but
there's
an
expectation
both
from
the
community
and
the
the
council
that
we
we
would
have
liked
to
see
some
more.
So
with
that.
B
C
Yeah,
so
you
know,
I
think
you
know
what
we've
presented
to
the
council
as
far
as
we're
concerned
is
the
most.
You
know
comprehensive,
specific
and
actionable
plan
that
any
city
has
provided
in
the
state,
thus
far
that
I've
seen-
and
you
know,
to
the
extent
that
you
know
there's,
there's
more
detail,
we
need
to
do
in
terms
of
accountability
or
provide.
I
think
that
that
that
the
the
council's
resolution
might
be
a
good
avenue
to
do
that,
but
I'm
really
here.
B
Right
right
and
right
and-
and
I
if
I
said
present,
then
I
I
was
mistaken
yeah
we
talked
about
this
beforehand,
so
you're
you're
here
to
do
exactly
what
you
you
just
said.
You're
doing,
and
I
mean
you
made
the
statement
about
the
plan
and
your
thoughts
on
it.
So
from
this
point
I
will
have
any
council
members
that
excuse
me
committee
members
first,
that
have
questions
or
comments
about
the
plan,
shoot
or
speak
any
committee
members,
mr
hoey.
D
C
I
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
there's
a
general
frustration,
not
only
with
the
council,
but
with
the
city
and
with
the
community
over
the
pace
this
took,
we
everyone
feels
rushed
and
I
think
everyone
feels
rushed
because
everyone
was
rushed.
We
have
a
deadline
and
you
know
we
have
to
meet
that,
but
you
know
what
the
mayor
has
said
is.
This
is
not
the
end
of
a
process.
This
is
really
the
beginning
of
a
process.
C
So
once
we
transmit
this
to
the
state
division
of
budget
and
it's
accepted,
I
think
that
you
know
you
know
the
work
doesn't
stop.
Then
the
work
really
just
begins.
Then,
and
you
know
that's
I,
you
know,
I
think
that
that's
gonna
free
us
up
to
really
give
the
kind
of
detail
that
that
the
council
would
like
to
see
to
this.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we
talk
about
in
council
leadership
and
you
know
kelly
has
brought
up.
C
Is
you
know
you
know
can't
we
do
more
than
just
a
yearly
report
and
I
think
that
that
makes
sense.
We
received
a
letter
from
the
naacp
requesting
that
we
continue
community
community
outreach
on
this.
One
of
the
things
that
we
were
discussing
once
the
governor
raised,
the
you
know
the
public
gathering
limits
for
outdoor
spaces
is:
how
can
we
start
to
engage
people
outside
gather?
C
You
know
gather
groups
within
those
standards,
you
know
to
protect
their
health
and
really
tell
them
what's
in
this
document
and
what
they
can
expect
and
if
they
have,
if
they
have
feedback,
you
know
and
look
a
lot
of
this
is
gonna.
You
know
once
this
document
is
accepted
by
the
state,
we're
going
to
be
coming
back
to
the
council
with
local
law
changes
we're
going
to
have
to
be
going
to
the
state
to
advocate
for
state
law
changes
to
get
some
of
this
done.
C
Some
of
the
recommendations
require
changes
in
federal
regulation,
so
you
know
all
of
that.
You
know
we're
working
on
mapping
out
now.
We've
indicated
it
in
the
document
that
we
have
before
the
council.
You
know
what
requires
outside
authorization.
We've
done
our
best
to
provide
timelines
based
on
you
know
what
we
expect,
and
you
know
our
hope
is-
is
that
it
won't
take
that
long.
A
lot
of
these
things.
We
think
we
can
get
done.
C
E
B
E
Yes,
I
you
know,
I
agree
with
almost
everything
that
brian
said
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody.
I
mean
there's
so
much
hard
work
that
went
into
this
and
it's
probably
one
of
the
best
things
I've
seen
go
through
the
council.
It's
not
the
best
product
we
can
come
up
with
in
the
future,
but
you
know
what
it's
not
written
in
stone
like
the
ten
commandments.
E
It's
it's
like
a
living
document
and
it's
gonna
keep
being
like
that,
for
you
know
some
time
to
come,
so
I
think
we
just
have
to
you
know,
beat
our
deadline.
I
think
it's
a
great
document.
I
I'm
glad
that
it
was
kind
of
broken
down
from
I
didn't
know
where
I
was
going
going
really
for
a
while,
but
very
important
things
that
have
to
be
done,
especially
in
the
mental
health
field,
I
believe
and
so
for
the
youth.
E
A
F
F
What's
in
the
written
document,
I
think
we
need
to
have
conversations
with
the
individuals
who
wrote
the
document
and
bring
them
and
have
those
conversations
because,
like
you,
said,
councilman
kimbo,
that
people
have
different
experiences
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
respect
those
different
experiences
and
make
sure
that
we're
making
decisions
and
having
final
votes
based
on
hearing
everybody's
point
of
view.
So
I
wouldn't
be
comfortable
voting
with
anything
that
made
any
type
of
statement.
F
F
I
also
want
to
say
I'm
not
so
worried
about
the
deadline,
because
I'm
looking
at
what
other
communities
are
doing
and
we
are
far
far
ahead
of
what
other
communities
have
been
doing
on
this
issue
as
a
city,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
should
be
proud
of
proud
of
ourselves
for,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
can.
You
know
pat
ourselves,
on
the
back
and
and
stop
moving
forward.
F
B
C
Some
of
these
changes
are,
you
know,
impact
agencies
outside
of
our
direct
jurisdiction,
but
you
know
it
doesn't
mean
we're
not
going
to
fight
for
them,
but
it's
our
hope
that
we're
here
talking
about
this
all
the
time
I
have
to
imagine
you
know
kelly
and
jenny.
This
is
going
to
be
a
standing
item
on
our
on
our
leadership
meetings.
You
know
and
we're
already
putting
together.
You
know
jasmine
has
been
putting
together
the
framework
as
to
you
know
how.
How
do
we
project
manage
this
internally?
C
You
know
how
do
we
make
sure
we're
keeping
on
keeping
on
the
deadlines
and
the
time
frames
we
we've
established.
It's
it's,
you
know
it's
a
it's.
It's
a
big
task
and
we're
gonna
have
to
bring
an
outside
resource
too.
But
it's
you
know
it's.
We
are
deeply
committed
to
this.
I
can
tell
you
you
know.
I
was
involved
in
this
process
from
day
one
as
was
jasmine.
You
know
we
are
committed
to
seeing
this
through
into
seeing
this
succeed.
G
Thank
you.
I
I
spoke
about
this
a
little
bit
at
the
last
meeting
at
leadership
today,
but
I
think
having
that
accountability
structure,
so,
in
other
words
having
if
it's
quarterly
or
I
would
leave
that
up
to
the
committee.
However,
often
that
is
a
year
a
specific
report
in
that
I
would
actually
add
in
like
which
you
know
you
have
all
the
action
items
done
by
abc,
so
you
know
which
action
items
have
you
hit
have
it.
You
know.
I
think
that
makes
it
a
much
more
that
creates
an
accountability
structure.
G
The
other
piece
that
I
would
just
bring
up,
which
I
brought
up
in
leadership
today
and
also
last
time,
is
who
is
so.
I
fully
agree
that
apd
should
be
the
people
that
implement
this.
They
have
to
be,
but
then,
where
is
the
oversight
so
who's
deciding
if
those
goals
are
met,
because
you
can
have
somebody
say
yeah,
I
hit
the
goals
and
I'm
not
saying
that
that
would
happen,
but
it's
it's
often
better
to
have.
G
Somebody
else
make
that
assessment,
whether
or
not
those
goals
are
hit
and
making
sure
they're
hit
from
the
community's
perspective,
and
some
of
them
might
need
to
be
from
apd's
perspective
because
they're,
you
know
so
both
sides.
But
I
really
that
to
me
is
the
piece
that
I
really
think
you
need
to
know.
I
G
C
Yeah,
I
think
you
know,
like
you,
know
the
I
think,
there's
like
two
answers
to
that
jenny.
I
think
you
know.
Obviously
the
council
and
the
mayor,
or
you
know,
are
going
to
be
responsible
for
you
know
you.
You
are
the
civilian
over
the
elected
civilian
oversight
of
of
the
police,
but
in
terms
of
bringing
in
an
additional
outside
resource.
To
kind
of,
I
don't
want
to
say
audit
our
progress.
Maybe
that's
the
right
word.
You
know.
G
J
G
C
G
C
G
C
C
C
Several
so
I
looked
at
and
I
actually
sent
some
to
council
leadership
just
so
they
could
see.
I
I
looked
at
rochester
syracuse's
buffaloes
we've
looked
at
we've
looked
at
the
hipsies,
we've
looked
at
the
only
you
know,
I'm
going
to
be
honest
of
all
the
ones.
I've
looked
at
the
only
the
only
the
only
report
that
I
think
comes
close
to
ours
in
terms
of
identifying
actions
and
time
frames
is
corning's,
but
I
can't
find
anyone
that
has
done
what
we've
done.
I'm
going
to
be
honest,
yeah
well,.
C
I
mean
you
know
not
to
not
too
long,
not
to
gloat
versions
on
some
of
these
others,
but
they
you
know
they
didn't.
We
go
a
lot
farther
in
our
reforms.
We
did
a
much
deeper
dive
across
the
department
and
its
functions
and
we
and
we
provided
actions
and
time
frames,
and
you
know,
I
think,
realistic
expectations.
You
know
some
of
the
other
reports
just
I
said
this
to
council
leadership.
C
B
L
Been
raised,
yep
hi
thanks,
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
second
what
brian
said.
I
can
personally
confirm
that
ryan
and
jasmine
were
pushing
us
to
get
things
done
as
quickly
as
we
could.
I
I
personally
asked
for
more
time-
and
I
was
told
you
just
gotta-
get
it
done,
because
people
need
to
be
able
to
see
this
stuff
so
and
I'm
glad
that
that's
that
that's
the
way
you
all
handled
it.
So
it's
it's.
L
It's
actually
been
a
pleasure
working
with
both
of
you,
because
you've
been
so
committed
to
getting
all
this
stuff
done
and
out
to
the
public
as
quickly
as
possible.
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
government
law
center
has
been
working
with
the
cprb
and
I
I
I
it
doesn't
look
like
anybody
from
the
cprb
itself
was
able
to
be
here
tonight,
but
I
know
they're
very
interested
in
thinking
about
implementation
of
reforms,
including
the
plan.
L
The
government
law
center
has
some
some
law
students
who
are
available
to
help
with
research
and
drafting.
So
you
know,
a
lot
of
stuff
in
this
plan
needs
to
be
turned
into
draft
language
that
the
common
council
could
consider,
or
you
know,
following
up
with
apd.
I
know
that
there
are
some
jurisdictions
that
are
thinking
about
developing
a
scorecard
that
they
can
put
on
their
website
where
people
can
look
and
see,
like
here's
all
the
stuff
that
we
have
in
our
to-do
list
and
here's
how
we're
doing
on
it.
L
L
E
M
Okay.
Okay,
I'm
sorry!
Oh
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
The
center
for
law
and
justice
supports
the
suggestion
that
the
common
council
continue
the
albany
policing
reinvention
process
beyond
the
state
set
april.
First
deadline
for
submission
of
a
plan,
we're
confident
that
the
council,
you
know,
working
together
with
the
community,
can
use
the
documents
submitted
by
the
administration
as
a
basis
for
a
plan
that
is
truly
transformative.
M
The
body
of
the
order
states
that
quote
there
is
a
long
and
painful
history
in
new
york,
state
of
discrimination
and
mistreatment
of
black
and
african-american
citizens
dating
back
to
the
arrival
of
the
first
enslaved
africans
in
america,
and
that
government
has
a
responsibility
to
ensure
that
all
of
its
citizens
are
treated
equally
fairly
and
justly
before
the
law
and
to
address
these
realities.
The
order
requires
that
communities,
not
just
reform
policing
but
reinvent
it
reinvention,
requires
a
new
vision
before
we
can
chart
a
path
forward.
We
need
to
know
our
destination.
M
Now,
after
using
these
three
foundational
shifts
to
craft
albany's
vision
of
a
reinvented
public
safety
system,
we
must
have
a
few
guiding
principles
in
developing
a
plan
to
get
us
there.
One
new
york
community
has
identified
three
such
guiding
principles
in
its
plan:
procedural
justice,
sanctity
of
life
and
the
guardian
mindset.
M
Sanctity
of
life
states
that,
at
the
core
of
a
police
officer's
responsibilities,
is
a
duty
to
protect
all
human
life
and
physical
safety,
and
a
guardian
mindset
conveys
that
police
officers
must
first
and
foremost
view
themselves.
As
defenders
protectors
and
keepers-
and
it
is
through
these
lens
that
the
officer
should
view
his
or
her
interactions
with
the
public,
this
is
a
contrast
to
a
warrior
mindset.
M
A
To
the
members
of
the
albany
common
council
public
safety
committee,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
city
of
albany,
policing,
reform
and
reinvention
collaborative
amended
final
draft
report.
The
city
started
this
process
on
the
right
foot
by
engaging
diverse
community
representatives
in
five
working
groups
to
address
different
aspects
of
systemic
racism
and
community
safety.
This
process
acknowledged
that
the
problem
of
over
policing
is
complex
and
requires
change
in
funding
policy,
personnel,
culture
and
more.
A
However,
the
conversation
I'm
sorry,
the
conversion
of
the
recommendations
into
a
plan
was
rushed
and
complete,
which
meant
which
meant
it
does
not
fulfill
the
spirit
of
executive
order
203,
which
calls
for
the
reinvention
and
modernization
and
police
strategies
in
order
to
address
the
tensions
and
lack
of
trust
between
our
communities
in
the
law
enforcement
that
serves
them
to
fulfill
the
spirit
of
the
executive
order.
A
key
outcome
of
this
process
should
be
building
trust
and
repairing
the
harm
to
black
and
brown
communities
because
of
over
policing.
A
However,
it
seems
the
outcome
of
this
plan
is
more
about
needing
a
deadline
to
get
state
funding,
rather
than
using
the
opportunity
to
build
trust.
How
is
this
plan
going
to
build
trust
when
it
is
incomplete,
rushed
and
some
common
council
members
haven't
even
read
it
common
council
member
discussions
so
far
have
focused
on
process
and
not
and
not
substance,
which
is
disappointing.
A
A
Some
were
confused
about
which
report
they
were
to
review
as
a
result,
both
the
february
8th
and
march
2nd
meetings
where
the
committee
were
supposed
to
discuss
these
recommendations,
focus
more
on
process
than
substance.
Counsel's
statement
at
the
march
2nd
meeting
focused
on
details.
What's
going
to
happen
when
and
how
is
the
city
and
apd
accountable
to
the
council?
A
I
did
not
hear
a
conversation
about
the
city
and
the
council
are
accountable
to
the
black
and
brown
communities
in
the
city,
as
well
as
the
committees
that
volunteered
hundreds
of
hours
to
this
effort,
though
it
is
important
that
the
council
provide
regular
and
rigorous
oversight
role.
As
the
plan
is
implemented,
the
primary
accountability
of
this
plan
should
be
to
the
community
that
has
been
harmed
if
albany
is
going
to
use
this
opportunity
to
make
substantive
changes
in
the
relationship
between
police
and
the
community.
A
Common
council
members
need
to
have
substantive
discussions
about
the
report's
content.
The
plan
is
long
and
confusing,
which
makes
it
hard
to
comment
on.
Yes,
the
issues
are
complex
and
take
time
to
describe
and
address,
but
the
plan
has
very
little
overview
and
context
setting
and
gets
to
the
detail
very
quickly.
A
The
impact
is
that
it
makes
it
difficult
for
the
public
and
even
common
council
members
to
absorb
the
plan
and
comment
on
its
substance
throughout
the
document
and
even
in
the
public
meeting
several
acronyms
are
used
which
make
it
difficult
to
follow
for
those
who
are
not
insiders
or
haven't
been
involved
in
the
process.
So
far,
here
are
a
few
specifics.
A
The
introduction
of
the
plan
rightfully
acknowledges
systemic
racism
as
the
root
of
the
problem,
but
it
doesn't
go
far
enough
in
acknowledging
the
disproportionate
harm
to
black
and
brown
communities.
It
doesn't
acknowledge
the
specific
past
and
ongoing
harms
in
black
and
brown
neighborhoods
in
our
city.
A
Page
four
of
the
plan
indicates
the
albany
police
department
will
report
on
their
progress
annually.
The
timing
and
accountability
seem
insufficient,
given
that
the
report
acknowledges
that
many
city
and
other
entities
are
responsible
for
implementing
this
plan.
Several
work
groups
recommended
taking
community
safety
response
out
of
the
hands
of
police
and
into
the
hands
of
civilians
that
can
better
serve
the
community
and
address
them
and
address
the
problem,
social
workers,
counselors,
etc.
A
Because
recommendations
come
from
other
places,
including
the
december
2020
racial
bias.
Audit.
There
are
several
places
where
the
recommendations
say:
apd
should
do
something,
rather
than
they
will
do
something.
For
example,
action
1.4
on
the
use
of
force
says,
implement
cna
recommendation.
21.1
apd
should
consider
revising
general
order,
1.3.00
use
of
force
lethal
weapons
with
the
changes
outlined
in
the
cna
audit
report.
A
In
the
plan,
the
recommendations
should
be
required
not
considered
in
converting
the
recommendations
to
a
plan
so
quickly.
Some
working
group
recommendations
were
left
out.
Several
council
members
noted
this
omission
and
suggest
that
the
city
provide
an
explanation
why
specific
recommendations
are
not
included.
I
think
acknowledging
the
omissions
are
important
for
accountability
to
the
working
group
members
and
the
communities
they
represent.
A
Dr
alice
green
and
her
colleagues
at
the
center
for
law
and
justice
have
noted
the
planned
shortcomings
in
numerous
public
comments,
and
I
urge
the
council
to
carefully
consider
their
suggestions
on
the
substance
of
the
plan.
I
also
urge
the
council
to
follow
the
cflj's
procedural
recommendations
by
requesting
an
extension
of
the
plan
to
make
changes
needed
to
build
trust
and
accountability,
see
and.
A
References
a
website
that
I
will
include
in
the
comments
on
facebook
in
case
those
who
are
watching
the
live
stream
want
to
visit
it.
If
council
members
are
concerned
about
the
loss
of
state
funding,
you
could
follow
the
cflj
recommendation
at
the
march,
2nd
public
safety
committee
meeting
to
immediately
approve
a
resolution
that
acknowledged
the
plan
is
inadequate.
It
needs
to
be
revised
in
order
to
accomplish
its
goals
and
work.
To
make
that
happen.
A
This
work
is
too
important
to
be
rushed.
It
is
important
that
this
is
done
correctly
and
with
faith
in
the
process
by
the
black
community.
Today
is
jury
selection
of
the
trial
of
derek
chauvin
for
the
murder
of
george
floyd.
I
fear
it
will
be
another
example
of
a
police
officer
who
is
not
held
accountable
for
the
murder
of
an
unarmed
black
man
to
truly
fulfill
the
promise
of
reinvention
of
public
safety
and
stop
using
the
criminal
justice
system
to
oppress
black
and
brown
communities
in
the
city
of
albany.
A
A
B
N
Hi
everyone
thanks
thanks
very
much.
Thank
you
danielle.
Thank
you
kim
kelly.
What
I
wanted
to
say
was
that
I
wanted
to
thank
dr
green
for
for
joining
this,
because
I
think
that
the
things
that
she
talked
about
were
the
things
that
we
that
the
review
board
was
discussing.
You
know
ad
nauseam
that
that
the
things
that
need
to
happen
are
we
need
to
encourage
trust.
N
We
need
to
have
better
resources
in
marginalized
communities,
and
we
need
to
understand
that
the
conversation
isn't
about
reform
it's
about
reinvention,
so
I
just
wanted
it's
international
women's
day.
So
I
wanted
to
thank
all
the
women
that
are
here
today.
I
also
want
to
thank
dr
green
for
her
initiating
this,
because
that
survey
that
she
did,
I
think,
was
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
that
was
much
needed,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
here
on
the
common
council,
all
of
you
for
the
hard
work
that
you've
done.
N
O
All
right
so
I'll
try
to
make
this
as
quick
as
possible.
My
name
is
paul
collins
hackett,
to
be
clear
for
those
who
don't
know
me
batman,
I'm
on
the
community
leadership,
team
of
lead,
cprb
and
a
bunch
of
other
things
right
now,
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
lead
program
and
specifically
the
report
and
the
recommendations
made
concerning
it,
I'm
on
the
clt
and
no
one
contacted
us
for
that
until
the
draft
was
done.
O
For
that
reason,
we
feel
like
it
lacks
context,
and
without
that
the
processes
conclusions
cannot
be
respected.
I
don't
really
acknowledge
the
report
as
it
pertains
to
the
lead
program
because
they
literally
decided
to
convene
and
have
a
conversation
without
talking
to
the
community
members
who
have
been
a
part
of
that
program
since
day
one.
O
P
When
we're
looking
at
our
programs
and
community
responses
that
we
can
begin
to
look
at
that
to
help
build
on
this
current
current
report
and
and
recommendations.
So
we're
not
separate,
but
those
concerns
that
have
been
then
laid
out
here
is.
We
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
and
bring
those
to
our
committees
and
say
hi.
How
do
can
we
address
this
in
the
context
of
our
work?
So
people
are
heard
they're,
good
recommendations.
They
seem
to
make
sense.
B
M
I
I
think
it's
important
going
back
to
what
batman
said.
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that
lead
is
not
a
city
program,
so
I
I
don't
know
why
we're
talking
about
it
in
terms
of
trying
to
change
anything,
it's
I'm
stymied
by
that.
Okay,
so
it
and
it's
not
even
indicated
that
it's
a
program
outside
of
the
wet
realm
of
the
city.
C
I
B
So
so
we
don't
get
lost
here
right,
but
let's
just
I
know
this
is
important
stuff
and
it,
like
mr
mancini,
said
it's
all,
there's
an
image
section.
Everything
is
interconnected,
but
let's
not
get
into
back
and
forth
about
it.
I
for
me
I'm
a
member
of
the
the
clt,
and
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
paul
batman
just
said,
but
regardless
of
how
we
got
here,
it's
important
that
that
we
move
forward.
B
M
M
We
have,
I
mean
the
people
on
the
working
groups
did
a
terrific
job
and
they
there
are
some
recommendations
that
I
think
should
be
included,
but
I've
talked
to
loads
of
people
generally
speaking,
no
one
knows
what
this
is:
we've
not
heard
the
chief
or
the
mayor
go
out
and
sell
the
program
in
the
city
nobody's
heard
about
it.
Only
people
who
know
about
it
are
you
people
who
worked
on
the
collaborative,
but
the
general
public
does
not
know
what
this
is,
which
says
something.
M
About
doing
something
like
this
without
that
kind
of
involvement-
and
it's
it's
not
even
correct
in
this
in
the
the
the
quote
draft
when
they
said
that
14
hours
of
input
was
scheduled
with
community
people.
That's
true,
but
I
listened
to
many
of
those
community
meetings
and
maybe
one
or
two
people
called
in
and
and
gave
any
kind
of
testimony.
M
So
when
you
put
it
in
there
that
looks
like
there
are
14
community
meetings
that
took
place,
but
that's
not
true.
Okay,
because
most
of
those
meetings
were
actually
conducted
by
working
group
chairpersons
explaining
what
they
their
role
is.
But
we
did
not.
We
left
out
the
community,
and
so
I
know
this
plan
is
going
to
pass.
I
understand
that.
I
understand
that
the
state's
not
going
to
take
any
money
from
anybody.
We
know
that
okay,
so
don't
get
don't
get
too
concerned
about
that.
B
C
C
Counsel
from
the
governor's
office
has
discussed
our
report
in
public
forums
and
they've
been
very
positive
about
it.
So
you
know,
but
you
know
there,
you
know,
I
don't
see
any
city
not
not
meeting
this
deadline,
most
cities,
you
know
the
cities
where,
where
I've
shared
reports,
a
lot
of
them
have
already
submitted.
So
I
I
just
think
it's
you
know
we
are
on
this
deadline,
whether
we
good
bad
or
indifferent.
C
However,
you
feel
about
it
and
you
know
obviously
we're
not
in
the
city
of
albany's,
not
in
a
position
to
be
turning
to
be
telling
the
state.
We
don't
need
your
funding
and
again
you
know
I
I
just
I
want
to
stress
that
you
know
what
we
have
developed
is
what
I
believe
to
be
the
most
detailed,
comprehensive,
an
actionable
plan
of
any
locality
in
the
state.
C
M
Okay
and
the
governor's
office
has
already
said,
they're
not
going
to
evaluate
plans
they're
not
going
to
take
anybody's
money
as
long
as
you
fill
out
that
form
that
they
ask
you
to
fill
out
they're
going
to
accept
the
plan,
so
the
black
community
has
been
had
okay,
because
there's
nothing's
going
to
change
we've
got
something
that
nobody
knows
what
it
is
and
what's
going
to
happen,
is
we're
gonna
hear
from
many
people?
Is
that
don't
deal
with
this
problem
of
systemic
racism?
That's
all
been
done
with,
because
we
did.
M
B
D
M
Well,
I
think
it
might
be
too
late
because
we're
talking
about
totally
looking
in
track
we're
talking
about
a
transformer
thing,
but
we
don't
even
have
what
you're
suggesting
that
would
be
nice
to
know
what
everybody
thinks
this
is.
You
know
if
you're
gonna,
if
you're
gonna
come
up
with
a
plan,
you
gotta
know
where
you
wanna
go
and
that
no
one
can
tell
me-
and
I
haven't
heard
anybody
say
it
yet
what
the
vision
is
for
the
city
of
albany.
There
is
none
but
you're
right.
M
D
A
B
B
You
know
language
about
accountability,
we're
gonna
do
the
quarter
to
quarterly
reports,
but,
but
I
want
folks
to
be
mindful
that
this
is
an
ongoing
process,
and
so
this
isn't
the
end
of
it.
This
you
know
moving
forward
with
this
at
this
point,
doesn't
stop
us
from
making
the
changes
working
with
the
center
for
law
justice
in
the
community
for
that
matter
to
to
improve
upon
and
make
sure
that
these
requested
changes,
and
these
requested
changes
from
the
community
get
get
implemented.
J
J
You
know
officers
other
than
just
city
of
albany
officers
helping
out
in
in
our
city
at
times,
and
would
they
would
would
they
be?
You
know,
held
to
the
same
standard?
Our
albany
police
officers
would
be
held
to
even
if
we
implemented
our
plan,
there's
just
so
many
things
that
we
would
like
to
see
happen
that
can't
necessarily
be
enacted
by
you
all
on
the
common
council,
and
we
we
understand
the
limit
limitations
of
that.
But
I
think
some
statement
needs
to
be
made
that
this
is
not
something
that
localities
can
do.
J
The
governor's
office
knows
that
and
there
needs
to
be
some
statewide
action,
so
I
I
just
think
that
that
is
very
possible
for
this
to
be
real.
For
this
to
have
even
been
a
you
know,
a
task
for
all
of
us
to
take
part
in
if
we
can't
reach
or
achieve
any
of
these
things
because
of
blockages
over
negotiations
of
union
contracts
and
those
sorts
of
things,
then
what
what
is
the
point?
So
I
I
would
like
some.
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
a
resolution.
B
Right,
okay,
thank
you,
miss
viva,
and
we.
What
we're
doing
with
with
the
resolution
is
we
do
a
budget
intent
demo
that
kind
of
has
our
hopes,
dreams,
wishes
and
whatnot
in
it
when
we
do
the
budget
every
year,
so
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
do
we're
going
to
do
this,
something
similar
with
this
resolution
and
add
that
language
in
there,
and
that
certainly
will
be
a
part
of
it
again.
We're
we're
here
taking
input
and
getting
thoughts
from
the
community.
This
I
mean
this.
This
conversation
is
actually
invaluable.
Q
Q
They
were
intended
to
be
a
space
for
the
public
to
speak.
However,
people
did
not
sign
up
so
you
know.
I
realized
that
there
is
a
feeling
that
they
were
that
that
people
didn't
know,
I'm
wondering
what
is
the
suggestion
to
ensure
that
people
find
a
find
out
and
b
participate.
I
mean
even
in
these
common
council
meetings,
there
is
really
not
a
lot
of
public
participation.
Most
of
the
people
on
these
meetings
are
either
people
who
regularly
participate
in
this
stuff
or
people
who
were
part
of
the
collaborative
itself.
Q
So
the
effort
was
made
to
make
space
and
yes,
a
lot
of
the
time,
was
spent
with
the
the
chairs
from
the
different
groups
talking
about
what
they
were
doing,
but
that
was
simply
to
ensure
that
we
didn't
just
have
dead
space
and
we
left
it
open
for
people
who
were
able
to
who
who
decided
to
sign
up
later.
So
I
guess
the
the
real
question
is:
how
do
we
get
people
to
participate,
keeping
in
mind
that
we
are
still
in
a
pandemic
and
the
normal
ways
that
we
would
have
done?
Q
This
are
not
available,
so
you
know
in
in
order
to
to
drive
more
public
interest.
Like
I
mean
I
guess
I
had
partly
expected
that
other
community
groups
that
were
either
that
were
you
know
interested
in
this
would
encourage
participation
and
then
collaborative
members.
Ourselves
would
also
do
work
to
get
it
out
to
our
networks
and
that's
how
we
would
drive
participation
so
in
the
event
that
they
did
like
they
didn't
or
they
did,
or
we
just
didn't
get
that
participation.
Q
Q
I
also
don't
know
what
other
organizations
did
to
promote
the
use
of
space,
but
I
would
like
to
know
how
we
going
forward
will
ensure
that
people
are
given
more
information.
I
mean
for
me
if
somebody
comes
to
me
and
tells
me
they
don't
know
about
it,
and
I
know
about
it
then
I
feel,
like
I
haven't
totally
done
my
job
to
try
to
to
get
that
information
out
and
I
should
be
informing
them
now.
So
it's
not
just
the
city's
job
or
just
one
of
our
jobs.
Q
B
Thank
you,
and
so
that
I
mean
that's.
That
is
a
question
that
we
we
need
to
answer.
I
mean
not
just
around
the
issue
of
police
reforms,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
other
things.
We
have
to
discuss
and
work
on
and-
and
we
want
the
community
to
be
a
part
of-
I
mean
we're,
we're
we're
supposed
to
be
getting.
You
know
money
from
the
federal
government
to
try
to
pull
us
out
of
this
hole.
We
get.
We
want
to
have
discussions
around
that
too,
that
include
the
public.
How?
B
How
are
we
going
to
do
that?
If,
if
we
revert
to
this,
you
know
just
zoom
or
or
what
have
you
that
may
be
difficult
and
we
may
miss
folks
again,
I
don't
have
an
answer,
but
it's
it's
again.
It's
it's!
It's
really.
I
know
I
was
on
in
your
group
on
the
collaborative
we
did
put
it
out
there.
We
couldn't
really
meet
people
where
they
were
because
of
the
pandemic.
So
it's
it's.
Q
And
I
put
in
a
lot
of
work
behind
the
scenes
like
sharing
it
within
my
network
sharing
with
them.
Whatever
networks
I
had
and
we
still
weren't
getting
the
participation
that
we
had
hoped
for
at
least
not
not
in
where
people
could
see
like
we
weren't
getting
the
public
participation,
even
though
we
were
getting
the
written
one,
we
weren't
getting
the
public
one.
Q
So
I'm
you
know
I'm
out
of
like
ways
that
we
can
do
better
and
the
only
except
for
instead
of
saying
that
one
group
is
not
doing
enough
or
this
this
entity
or
this
agency
isn't
doing
enough.
We
have
to
come
together
and
we
have
to
like
figure
out
how
to
do
this
all
together
and
really
push
community
participation.
Other
than
that,
I
don't
know
how.
B
R
Hi
kelly,
I'm
commenting
today
because
my
boss
is
here,
so
I
want
to
make
it
clear:
I'm
commenting
as
a
44-year
resident
of
albany
currently
in
arbor
hill,
and
I
wasn't
gonna
comment,
but
a
few
things
sort
of
caught
me
off
guard
kelly
and
as
my
common
council
person,
you
know,
I
respect
you,
but
this
is
sort
of
part
of
the
problem.
I
think
too
often
we
do
this.
Let's
move
forward.
R
R
This
is
how
you
can
request
to
be
on
the
working
groups
or
on
the
collaborative
itself.
Also,
I
think
we
watched
weeks
and
weeks
of
facebook
video
where
nobody's
comments
we
couldn't
interact
and
by
the
time
you
finally
got
to
now.
We
want
the
community's
input.
We're
wondering
why
there
was
no
community
left
hanging
on
to
give
input
the
whole
way
of
just
doing
it.
On
facebook
locked
the
community
out,
it
also
counted
on
people
having
facebook
access
it
counted
on
people
having
internet
access.
R
I
was
in
community
meetings
with
vocal
new
york
and
others
who
did
like
this
big
sort
of
forum
out
on
timbridge
street.
Expressing
that
these
were
issues
and
the
common
response
from
the
mayor's
administration
was,
people
will
have
a
chance
to
be
involved
later
on
down
the
road
as
part
of
the
work
groups
process.
That
didn't
happen,
then,
when
it
was
time
for
public
comment,
there
was
a
rollout
through
the
newspaper.
R
That
said
one
thing
then
I
understand
it
was
changed
in
responsiveness
to
the
community's
issues,
but
that
information
did
not
get
out
to
us
and
there
was
even
a
point.
I
was
on
one
of
those
work
groups
on
facebook
watching
and
there
was
no
zoom
participation
and
somebody
said
there
are
34
comments
on
the
facebook
page.
Should
we
read
those-
and
there
was
a
decision
made?
No,
let's
not
let
the
community
participate
that
way
because
they
didn't
register
through
our
zoom
process.
R
So
I
think
there
were
things
that
could
have
been
done
to
meet
the
community
where
they're
at
that
were
not
done
and
that's
starting
from
the
very
beginning.
There
should
have
been
a
call
for
participation,
not
an
appointment
of
people
who,
I
didn't
feel
were
representative.
My
son
is
24
years
old.
He
gets
stopped
and
frisked
weekly
since
he's
been
12..
He
has
no
record
he's,
never
been
arrested.
R
R
Nobody
attempted
to
engage
my
son
any
of
his
peers,
any
of
the
guys
standing
on
swan
street
any
of
the
guys
on
colony
street.
Nobody
went
out
into
the
neighborhood
and
said
this
is
what's
happening
and
I
understand
there
was
colvit,
but
vocal
new
york
managed
to
put
together
a
whole
community
event
in
person
in
the
middle
of
winter
at
night.
So
I
just
think
it's
a
little
disingenuous
to
say
we
provided
the
space,
it
just
really
wasn't
provided
and
the
whole
rollout
said.
M
M
J
J
B
O
O
There
was
a
time
when
we
didn't
get
any
data
whatsoever.
You
know
we
requested
the
data.
No
data
was
produced
until
the
reform
conversations
came
around
all
of
a
sudden.
The
lead
program
became
a
priority
and
data
magically
appeared.
But
again,
that's
not
that's
not
the
actions
of
an
administration.
That's
looking
for
active
participation
from
the
community.
O
The
effort
seems
to
be
to
move
forward.
It's
been
suggested
that
lead
data
be
provided
quarterly.
We've
asked
why,
but
initially
it
was
monthly
when
there
was
discrepancy,
the
data
stopped
coming
all
together,
so
we're
confused
as
to
why
we're
just
going
to
push
forward
and
move
to
a
quarterly
format.
Again,
these
issues
and
others.
It
just
seems
to
be
a
pattern
of
actually
valuing
community
insight
and
using
it
in
a
meaningful
way.
B
A
A
I
guess
my
clarifying
question
is:
how
are
we
differentiating
the
vision
statement
or
the
vision
in
comparison
to
the
goals
that
were
the
goals
and
purpose
that
were
outlined
in
the
document
that
the
collaborative
put
forward,
and
I
asked
that
question
because
I
think
we
can
it's
a
missed
opportunity
if
we're
not
understanding
what
all
the
stakeholders
mean,
and
so,
dr
green,
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what
your.
What
do
you
specifically
mean
by
vision
statement
and
how
does
that
differ
from
the
outlying
goals
and
purpose.
M
M
I
think
what
we
were
looking
for
was
somebody
to
come
up
with
this
overall
vision
about
what
the
police
department
would
look
like
if
it
was
re-en,
redesigned
or
reimagined,
will
it
look
the
same
as
it
looks
now,
or
will
it
look
entirely
different?
What
is
what
and
what
would
be
transformative
about
it?
So
I
I
don't
see
for
me,
that's
the
vision.
What
would
it
look
like,
and
I
don't
think
we've
said
that,
certainly
that
you
know
different
working
groups
had
different
ideas
about
goals
and
objectives.
M
M
A
I
feel
that
all
of
the
work
that
has
been
done
thus
far
from
all
of
the
different
stakeholders
that
I
mentioned,
whether
it's
community
advocates
those
on
the
collaborative
my
office,
the
mayor's
office,
your
office,
dr
green,
the
we
all
have
a
common
goal,
and
it's
really
pulling
all
of
this
work.
Together.
All
the
comments
together
to
come
up
with
one
cohesive
vision,
statement
and,
and
so
from
where
I
see
it.
I
believe
that
that
is
possible
and
it's
just
putting
our
minds
together
to
pull
or
pull
that
together
right.
M
I
think
it's
possible
to
do.
I
don't
know
how
much
time
it
takes,
but
what
we
were
looking
at
like
the
first
draft,
was
simply
a
collection
of
all
of
the
working
groups
of
work,
and
some
of
it
was
fantastic.
I
thought,
but
it
didn't
hang
together.
There
was
nothing
that
that
I
could
look
at.
That
would
that
I
could
use
to
say
we
should
do
this
to
get
to
where
we
want
to
get.
M
It
hasn't
been
pulled
together
and
that's
that's
the
that's
the
problem
for
me
and
I
think
it's
going
to
take.
I
think
it's
going
to
take
a
little
while
I
wish
I
could
say
that
it
could
be
done
tomorrow,
but
you
know
maybe
somebody
can
work
that
magic.
I
don't
know,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
going
to
take
some
more
work
with
with
the
common
council,
the
center
for
law
and
justice.
As
I
mentioned,
I
mean
we
we're
already
thinking
about.
M
M
You
know
I
could
put
together
all
these
different
recommendations
and
and
send
it
out
as
a
report.
It
was
a
report,
it
wasn't
a
plan
and
that's
what
we've
been
trying
to
get
across.
You
know
if
I'm
gonna
build
a
house.
I
know
I
have
an
ark.
I
have
an
architect
design
it
for
me,
and
I
said
this
is
what
I
want
it
to
look
like.
So
then
you
put
all
the
pieces
together
here.
I
don't
know
with
what
we
have
a
lot
of
good
stuff.
M
A
Yeah-
and
I
hear
you
and
and-
and
I
I'm
happy
to
be
a
part
of-
and
I
say
this
to
you-
brian
and
councilman
kimbrough-
and
you
too,
dr
green,
my
I
and
my
office
we're
committed
to
helping
towards
cre
creating
that
vision,
and
it
is
really
like.
I
said
from
my
perspective,
pulling
the
pieces
together.
A
The
the
other
comment
that
I
have
is
really
about,
and
it's
something
that
counts.
Councilman
kimbrough
said
how
do
we
move
forward?
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
just
have
a
pure
distrust
for
the
administration,
the
government
in
general,
who
have
a
pure
distrust
for
the
process
and
felt
that
it
was
not
authentic
enough.
It
was
not
rooted
in
community
enough
and
I
one
of
the
things
that
I've
learned
during
this
work
is
that
you're
not
going
to
please
everybody
all
the
time.
A
That
being
said,
how
do
we
meet
reach
middle
ground?
Because
there
were
people
community
advocates
folks
from
the
community
who
were
part
of
this
process
who
put
a
lot
of
work
and
energy
and
time
into
this
product?
And
so
how
do
we
build
on?
What's
here
versus
saying,
I
don't
like
the
process,
I
wasn't
a
part
of
it,
and
so
we
just
need
to
do
something
different
and
we
don't
get
anywhere
with
that
mentality.
A
A
You
know,
as
a
part
of
the
audit
we
attempted
to
engage
community,
we
extended
deadlines
to
engage
community,
and
I
have
to
echo
some
of
the
sentiment
that
danielle
brought
up.
There
are
some
people
who
are
really
attracted
to
this
work
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
and
they
show
up
each
and
every
time
and
then
that
there-
and
then
there
are
those
who
are
just
so
not
support.
Some
are
not
interested.
Some
just
don't
trust
that
this
is
an
authentic
process
and
some
just
don't
know,
what's
happening
and
so
they're
not
engaged.
A
But
I
would
not
say
that
there
was
not
a
strong
attempt
to
engage
the
community.
Dr
green
I've
been
a
part,
I'm
sure
you've
hosted
meetings
in
community
meetings
and
a
few
people
have
shown
up.
I
think
all
of
us
who
do
this
work.
It
is
challenging
to
get
people
to
participate
as
much
as
we
would
like,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
community
engagement,
I
think
we
need
to
be
honest
and
real
about
the
challenges
with
engaging
communities,
especially
the
communities
that
we're
talking
about.
A
M
M
That
is
not
honest,
so
I
would
agree
with
you.
The
other
thing
is
is
that
you
know
in
my
statement.
I
strongly
suggested
that
we
work
together
to
develop
a
vision
statement.
We're
at
the
center
are
starting
to
try
to
do
that
right
now
on
our
own,
and
you
know
we're
we're
more
than
willing
to
be
involved
in
trying
to
you
know,
move
us
in
the
direction
of
doing
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
talked
about.
M
You
know
ending
systemic
racism,
looking
at
public
safety
and
policing
and
what
it
should
look
like
and
really
involving
the
community.
It's
not
easy.
I
would
agree
with
you,
but
don't
misrepresent
it
in
your
report
by
saying
it
happened
because
it
didn't
happen,
and
I
agree
with
with
danielle
it's
it's
difficult.
It
is
very
difficult
work,
but
when
we
don't
tell
the
truth,
it
doesn't
help.
B
I
I
I
will
agree
with
that,
but
I
would
say
that
when
this
information,
when
these
discussions
first
started
about
this
project,
this
team,
I
think
that
it
was
a
lot
of
people
from
the
community
that
had
huge
networks
that
were
interested
in
being
involved
in
the
process
and
when
it
seemed
like
all
of
those
people
got
excluded
from
the
process.
I
think
that
you
know
it's
hard
to
get
a
group
of
people
to
never
feel
represented
at
the
table
to
want
to
go
through
that
process.
I
It's
like
you,
know
how
you
know
and
then,
for
the
message
is
that
you
know
we
have
to
move
forward.
We
are
always
on
the
receiving
end
of
having
to
move
forward
without
our
needs,
or
you
know
our
concerns
being
considered
genuinely,
and
at
least
that's
the
feeling
that
it's
felt
and
it's
hard
to
continuously
be
a
part
of
that
process.
I
So
you
know
when
I
I
was
watching
on
facebook
and
when
I
heard
lauren
speak,
you
know
I
felt
like
she
was
saying
a
lot
of
the
same
stuff
that
I
heard
from
a
lot
of
people
about
this
subject
and
it's
like
you
know
we
had
the
opportunity
right
there.
You
know
people
were
calling
for
this.
Why
wouldn't
they
want
to
be
a
part
of
this?
I
I
So
when
you,
when
we
go
to
facebook,
facebook
or
route
as
the
main
source,
we
cutting
people
out
that
don't
have
access
to
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
you
know.
Excuse
me
thank
lauren
for
making
those
comments
because
they
were
powerful
and
they
they
spoke
of.
You
know
those
meetings
that
not
many
people
attended.
That
would
have
been
a
common
story
or
a
common
subject
that
that
would
have
been
said.
So
I
just
wanted
to
support
that.
M
Could
I
just
make
one
more
comment:
if
this
is
a
plan
and
it's
been
done
by
the
administrator,
I
haven't
heard
anyone
out
there
selling
it.
Why
is
that
all
I've
heard
is
this?
You
know
it
goes
to
common
council
and
we
talk
about
it.
But
I've
heard
no
one.
No
government
officials
go
out
there
and
say
hey
folks.
We
got
a
plan
and
here's
what
it
is
I
haven't
heard
it.
F
F
F
The
substance
of
the
document,
and
that's
to
me
is
is-
is
critical,
critical
part
of
this,
so
we
have
to
put
something
forward
today
and
I-
and
I
know
that-
and
I
understand
that
if
we
put
something
forward
that
we
looking
that
we
created
a
report
that
is
going
to
be
the
base
for
us
to
move
forward
with
a
plan
to
re-engage
community
members
to
continue
to
move
forward.
The
process
you
know
is
that
something
people
feel
comfortable
with,
because
I
do
feel
at
some
point
we
have
to.
F
F
That's
been
done
by
all
those
individuals,
but
I
also
have
said-
and
I
say
it
again-
you
know
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
be
done,
and
you
know
a
lot
more
engagement
and
opportunity
for
reaching
out
to
those
stakeholders
and
to
those
individuals
and
being
creative
in
the
way
that
we
we
reach
out
to
individuals.
You
know
because
I
think
dr
priest
really
really
hit
it
on
now.
F
F
We
have
to
be
more
creative
in
in
trying
to
find
ways
to
get
information
from
individuals,
and
maybe
it's
not
attending
a
meeting.
Maybe
it's
you
know
putting
putting
information
out
on
on
on
people's
doors.
Maybe
it's
going
to
locations
where
people
are,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
be
afraid
of
getting
that
of
having
those
interactions
and
of
be
looking
outside
the
backs
of
what
we
traditionally
do
to
get
input.
But
I
I
wanted.
D
B
D
B
A
A
A
You
should
be
proud
of
your
hard
work
and
passing
local
law
jay,
as
councilmember
conte
pointed
out
at
a
recent
meeting.
This
has
been
a
long
time
in
the
works.
The
albany
labor
council
has
been
following
this
process
as
it
affects
us
and
our
members,
especially
our
members
of
color
and
our
more
vulnerable
or
specifically
impacted
members.
A
I
believe
it
was
council
member
kimbrough
who
pointed
out
in
a
recent
meeting
attention
which
the
labor
community
not
always
united,
also
faces
the
tension
between
community
and
duty,
the
tension
between
using
our
powers
for
others
and
for
using
our
power
for
our
own
interest.
Far
too
long,
organized
labor
has
been
siloed
in
parochial
interest
and
has
mismanaged
its
own
house
and
left
communities,
often
non-men
and
non-white,
isolated
or
detached,
especially
in
the
efforts
of
police
reform.
A
That
is
clearly
changing
and,
as
the
albany
labor
council
focuses
on
building
labor
power,
we
see
the
community
community
voice
the
voice
of
women.
The
voice
of
people
of
color
needs
to
be
lifted
up,
encouraged
and
heeded.
The
labor
council
has
sent
to
some
of
you
a
letter
we
will
also
send
to
mayor
sheehan.
We
hope
you
will
share
it
around.
M
A
A
B
B
A
B
B
You
know
about
saying,
hey
and
not
missing
because
of
the
mayor's
office
and
put
it
in
there.
It's
missing
because
for
some
reason,
the
the
groups
in
the
collaborative
missed
it
so
reach
out
to
some
of
those
folks
or
the
person
that
was
in
my
group.
That
said,
hey
aren't.
We
gonna
have
a
conversation
about
what's
what
what's
in
there,
that
we
expect
it
to
be?
What's
not
in
there
and
and
and
so
maybe
that
can
not.
B
Maybe
that
can
also
go
into
into
our
resolution
that
that
will
speak
to
to
how
we
feel
about
this
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
again.
It's
the
start.
We
do
need
to
move
and
again
to
dr
green.
She
she
made
the
point
about
working
with
us
working
with
the
council
to
implement
some
of
this
stuff.
B
There's
no
reason
why
we
we
shouldn't
have
you
know
conversations
with
dr
green,
have
conversations
with
members
of
the
the
collaborative
both
members
and
some
of
the
leaders,
some
of
the
chairs
to
to
to
work
on
implementing
this.
It's
it's
too
important
to
let
it
fall
by
the
wayside.
And
again
I
keep
saying
the
moment
we're
in
it.
I
mean
it
call
it
does
it.
It
calls
for
drastic
change,
it
calls
for
for
for
new
visions
and
looking
at
policing
in
a
different
way,
which
we
can
do.
D
B
H
I
also
agree
that
we
should
add
all
of
the
changes
we
mentioned.
I'd
also
add
more
to
the
communication
side
of
it,
acknowledging
that
there
were
14
meetings.
However,
due
to
the
remote
environment
of
covid,
you
know
participation
was
x
and
in
total
we
received
x
number
of
written
and
public
comments
throughout
the
process.
So
it's
very
clear
where
we
are.
A
Okay,
so
resolution
of
the
common
council
of
the
city
of
albany
in
relation
to
executive
order
203,
whereas
on
june
12,
2020,
governor
andrew
cuomo
issued
executive
order
number
203
and
whereas
there
is
a
long
and
painful
history
in
new
york,
state
of
discrimination
and
mistreatment
of
black
and
african-american
citizens
dating
back
to
the
arrival
of
the
first
enslaved
africans
in
america.
And
whereas
the
recent
history
includes
a
number
of
incidents
involving
the
police
that
have
resulted
in
the
death
deaths
of
unarmed
civilians.
Predominantly
black
and
african-american
men
that
have.
M
B
B
No,
no,
the
issue
is,
is
the,
whereas
is
with
with
when
you
get
down
to
the
bottom
andrew
curse,
edson
thieving
and
it
actually
should
read.
Whereas
the
government
has
excuse
me,
the
deaths
in
the
city
of
albany
include
those
of
jesse
davis
and
donald
dante,
ivy
and
the
harm
against
elizar
williams.
It's
it's
it.
It's
that's,
not
the
most
up-to-date
version
of
it.
B
And
whereas
the
deaths
of
new
york
in
new
york
state
include
those
of
anthony
baez,
amadou,
diallo,
uzman,
zango,
sean
bell,
ray
marley,
graham
patrick
dorisman,
akai
gurley
and
eric
garner,
amongst
others,
and
in
other
states,
include
oscar
grant.
Trayvon
martin
michael
brown,
tamir,
rice,
laquan,
mcdonald,
walter
scott
freddie
gray,
philando
castillo
antoine
rose,
jr,
ahmad,
arbory,
brianna,
taylor
and
george
floyd,
amongst
others,
and
these
deaths
in
the
city
of
albany
include
those
of
jesse
davis
and
donald
dante,
ivey
and
the
harm
against
eleazar
williams.
B
Okay,
yeah
yeah,
no,
that's,
and
whereas
the
government
has
a
responsibility
to
ensure
that
all
citizens
are
treated
equally
fairly
and
justly
before
the
law
and
whereas
black
lives
matter
now,
therefore
be
resolved,
and
now,
with
the
understanding
that
the
the
language
that
that
we've
spoke
about
here
today,
will
be
included.
We'll
get
a
copy
of
this
out
before
we
move
on
it.
So
everyone
could
see
with
with
those
updates
in
it,
and
I
propose
that
that
we
move
forward
with
including
those,
but,
like
emotion,
can,
can
I.
B
And
again
it's
it
and
I
some
folks,
I
understand
some
folks
on
this
call
and
some
folks
out
on
facebook
are
gonna,
maybe
think
or
feel
that
I'm
I'm
rushing
this.
It's
not
my
intent
and
again,
like
I
said
before
we
could
we
could.
We
could
have
this
conversation
for
the
next
couple
of
weeks
straight
and
not
come
to
an
agreement.
The
stuff
is
too
important.
F
E
F
Know
if
we
can
say
we're
adapting
it
because
we
haven't
even
gotten
into
the
substance
of
of
the
document.
So
how
can
we
say
we're
not
doing
something
that
we
haven't
even
discussed?
We've
discussed
the
process,
we've
discussed,
you
know,
but
we
honestly
have
not
discussed
the
substance
of
the
94
page
document.
F
So
that's
where
I
have.
I
have
an
example
adapting
this
without
even
having
discussing
the
the
the
meeting
potatoes.
So
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
I
do
we
have
corporate
counsel
or
someone
here
that
can
give
us
some
type
of
legal
advice.
If,
if
we
change
the
word
from
adapt
to
recognize,
if
that's
really
going
to
make
a
big
difference,
I
mean
I
I
again
I'm
not
so
concerned.
I
don't
I
I
I
agree
with
dr
green.
I
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
you
know.
F
I
think
we
have
gone
far
beyond
what
other
municipalities
have
done,
that
if
they
were
to
cut
out
funding
you'd
really
be
hard-pressed
to
be.
You
know
well
look
at
what
other
people
are
doing
if
you're
gonna
cut
out
funny,
because
we
have
a
word-
that's
not
saying
adopt
by
the
same
recognize.
I
don't
know
if,
if
that
would
hold
a
lot
of
weight
but
I'll,
let
the
legal
illegal
minds
if
we
have
anyone
from
corporate
council
speak
on
that.
A
I
thought
the
I
thought
that
someone
had
previously
mentioned
that
the
common
council
would
adopt
a
plan
and
make
considering
the
following
recommendations
and
then
bullet
the
recommendations
that
the
council
was
making
to
the
administration.
I
thought
that
that
may
have
been
discussed
previously
you're
correct
I'll
reach
out
to
attorney
williams,
see
if
I
get
him
on
the.
A
L
To
the
extent
it's
helpful
I
can
this
is
ava.
I
can
address
that
a
little
bit
if
it
would
be
helpful,
that's
it
seeing
what
it
what
I
think,
it's
sorry
seeing
a
nod.
I
think
so.
The
the
certification
form
that
has
to
be
submitted
to
the
governor's
office
requires
the
local
executive,
meaning
the
mayor
to
check
a
box
that
says
the
legislative
body
of
the
local
government
has
ratified
or
adopted
the
plan
by
local
law
or
resolution.
L
So
somebody
does
have
to
certify
that
that
doesn't
mean
at
least
and
you
should
obviously
take
corp
council's
advice,
not
mine,
but
the
it's
certainly
my
sense
that
if
you
adopt
the
plan
but
say
it
still
needs
a
vision
statement
and
we're
going
to
do
that,
and
it
still
needs
this
and
we're
going
to
do
that.
I
think
that
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
say
the
the
the
plan
or
whatever
it
is,
has
to
be.
L
The
only
thing
you
adopt,
and
so
you
can
certainly
set
further
goals,
but
for
whatever
it's
worth,
my
my
view
would
be
that
the
something
has
to
say
that
something
was
adopted
or
it'll
be
difficult
for
the
mayor's
office
to
sign
that
certification
form
again
without
I'm
not
expressing
any
views
on
what
you
should
or
shouldn't.
Do
I'm
just
trying
to
get
that
language
in
front
of
you
so
that
everybody
be
aware
that.
F
B
H
B
S
I'm
sort
of
popping
in
and
out
as
I
get
my
kids
ready
for
bed,
so
I
apologize
if
I
didn't
hear
the
entire
conversation,
but
I
just
did
want
to
offer
that
the
executive
order
does
use
the
word
adopt.
So
if
you
choose
to
use
some
other
language,
I
think
there
is
a
risk,
there's
a
risk
there
that
we
won't
receive
funding.
S
I
can't
tell
you
for
sure.
Like
somebody
mentioned,
our
report
is
one
of
the
most
thorough.
So
you
know
maybe
they
will
look
beyond
that,
but
I
would
recommend
we
use
that
word
adopt,
even
if
you
want
to
go
further
to
clarify
that
we're
adopting
this
report,
but
there
will
be
further
recommendations
and
further
discussions
and
amendments
to
the
report.
D
I
A
A
B
F
B
That
it's
okay,
so
that
was
that
was
for
the
the
resolution,
but
I
I
think,
when
you
say,
discuss
the
the
substance,
mr
balor,
and
what
would
I
I
say
debate
it.
I
think
we
all
agree
with
that.
I
think
the
substance
is
what
it
is.
It's
powerful,
it's
strong!
It's!
It's
got
a
lot
of
ideas
and
everyone
is
in
agreement
with
it.
We're
no
one's
contesting
it.
We're
all
saying:
heck,
yeah.
F
You
know
that
were
on
the
council
and
some
of
us
weren't
part
of
the
process,
so
the
students
that
we
have
questions
about
what
was
put
on
on
the
documentation
that
we'd
like
to
get
you
know
answers
we,
we
didn't
we
when
we
first
met.
We
talked
about
going
through
the
document
and
bringing
in
everyone
from
those
committees
to
go
to
to
go
through
all
those
recommendations.
So
we
can
bounce
back
and
forth
what
our
thoughts
were.
We
we
haven't
done
that.
F
So
so
that's
what
I'm
saying
we
haven't
discussed
the
actual
substance,
because
we
haven't
brought
in
those
individuals
who
wrote
it
and
we
haven't
gone
back
and
forth
with
what
different
experiences
are.
You
know,
so
that's
what
I'm
saying
we
haven't
actually
discussed
the
94-page
document.
So
that's
what
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
stating.
F
B
Okay,
so
all
right
with
that
being
said,
we
had
the
first.
We
had
a
motion
in
the
second,
all
those
in
favor,
say,
aye
and
and
okay,
so
the
resolution
passes
where
it's
out
positive
recommendation.
I
know
we
said
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
restate
that
mr
balor
and
I
I
would
argue
that
we
still
have
time
to
have
these
conversations
we
can
still
moving
forward.
We
agreed
that
this.
This
is
a
starting
point.
Again,
all
of
the
groups
recommendations
are
laid
out
or
are
put
out
in
in
those
reports.
B
The
group,
the
different
group
reports
so
they're
there,
but
if
we
want
to
get
specific
input
or
further
input
from
them,
we
can
certainly
have
conversations
with
them.
We
can
do
you
know
a
meeting
with
each
of
the
the
heads
of
the
different
groups
if
you
want
we'd
have
to
set
up
a
time
to
do
that.
I
mean
that
would
be
just
as
I
mean,
so
we
don't
have
to
pass
on
that.
I
mean
I,
I
know
you're
saying
you
wanted
to
do
that
before
voting,
but
the
thing
is
we
have
what
they
worked
on.
F
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
what
I'm
saying
is:
we
haven't
discussed
the
body
of
work
with
those
who
voted
and
we
haven't
discussed
the
body
of
work
amongst
ourselves.
We've
we've
discussed
the
process,
but
we
haven't
discussed
the
body
of
work
you
know
in
in
as
the
substance
behind
it.
So
that's
what
I'm
saying
and
you're
right.
You
know
you're
right
kelly.
F
This
is
going
to
be
a
long
process
and
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
process,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
when
we
that,
when
we
do
vote
on
the
final
or
on
policy,
because
this
isn't
policy,
this
isn't
you
know-
you
know
this
isn't
policy.
But
when
we
do
vote
on
policy,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
more
extensive,
detailed
time
to
go
over
those
details
with
all
the
stakeholders
in
the
room
to
have
those
conversations,
especially
for
those
who
are
not
in
the
room
beforehand.
B
M
E
F
That's
not
the
the
I
think,
we've
all
read
the
document.
I
think
I
think
we
all
don't
have
all
the
information
from
those
who
wrote
the
document
that
that
I
want
to
to
to
have
and
information
from
those
who
are
not
in
the
room
who
wrote
the
document
that
I
want
to
have
before
we
vote
on
policies
that
you
know
are
based
on
the
document.
R
R
B
R
B
Right
that
the
intention
is
for
for
public
safety
to
have
a
part
in
that,
when
we
schedule
or
set
those
quarterly
meetings
up,
it'll
be
the
public
safety
committee.
The
thing
is,
the
chief
has
got
to
implement
this
stuff,
someone
you
know
idea
either
an
outside
body
or
someone
within
the
administration
provides
oversight,
but
that
oversight
still
has
to
come
to
us
to
for
us
to
to
view
it
and
agree
or
disagree
with
it
and
and
debate
and
talk
about
it.
So,
if
does
that
help
you
at
all.
R
Sort
of
yes,
so
is
it
helpful
for
you
guys
to
decide
that
and
formalize
like
oversight,
because
I
just
you
know
as
a
resident,
you
know
there's
been
gun
task
force
and
every
type
of
committee
you
can
think
of
and
we
come
up
with.
You
know
what
may
or
may
not
be
great
ideas
on
paper
and
then
six
years
later
the
residents
are
like
whatever
happened
with
that.
T
Kelly,
a
lot
of
kelly
start
interrupting
a
lot
of
oversight.
Don't
forget,
a
lot
of
the
policies
will
probably
be
laws
and
ordinances.
That's
the
oversight
is
when
they
we
have
to
pass
them
into
laws
or
ordinances.
That's
where
the
oversight
comes
in
when
they
have
to
come
back
to
the
council.
So
I
think
you
know
we
can't
dismiss
like
a
lot
of
the
stuff
is
going
to
have
to
be
state
laws.
T
City,
council
laws,
that's
going
to
come
in
front
of
us,
so
that's
going
to
be
the
oversight
process
and
then,
once
those
laws
are
passed,
then
it
becomes
the
public
safety
committee's
job.
To
you
know,
however,
that
annual
report
or
whatever
that
that
quarterly
report
happens
to
to
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
happening.
E
T
B
And
further
in
that,
when,
when
we're
talking
about
checks
and
balances
or
overseeing
this
stuff,
if
they're
a
goal
set,
and
we
have
to
determine
whether
or
not
they
met
a
goal
or
accomplished
something,
I
mean
that
I
think
that
I
don't
think
that
could
be
subjective
depending
on
how
we
set
it
up
it's
either
they
met
the
goal
or
they
didn't,
and
that
would
be
in
this
committee.
We
would
have
discussions
and
and
dialogue
around.
B
Also
so
I
mean
this
is
imperfect,
but
again
we
I
think
we're
trying
to
do
the
best.
We
can
we
all
care
about
this
stuff.
We
all
want
to
want
to
change
and
again
it's
it's,
it's
a
work
in
progress,
and
I
ask
that
folks.
Don't
don't
forget
that,
and
so
with
that
sure
last
thing
before
closing
out
the
meeting,
we
have
a
public
safety
meeting
on
the
24th
of
march.
It's
on
local
law
c.
B
Is
it
local
lossy?
It
is
the
sea
of
201
2021,
it's
regarding
the
use
of
tear
gas
by
our
police
department,
so
you're
all
welcome
to
attend
and
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
regarding
that
it
should
be
interesting.
It's
you
know.
It's
utilizing,
tear
gas
in
our
communities,
some
of
its
use
of
force.
It's
it's
a
part
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
discussing
now
and
the
reforms
that
we've
been
going
through
for
for
the
last
few
months.
So
please
attend
and
participate.
B
If
you
can,
I
think
we
welcome
we
we
welcome
comment.
A
lot
of
folks
are
in
the
meetings
and
they
kind
of
take
everything,
and
I
agree
we
take
any
and
all
comments.
Everyone
has
something
to
offer.
We
appreciate
everyone's
input
so
and
with
that.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
for
being
here,
public
safety
meeting.
Thank
you
to
the
committee,
I'd
say
good
night
and
everyone
be
safe.
Okay,
thank
you
sure.