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From YouTube: Monday, December 14, 2020 5:30PM Public Safety Committee
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The Committee reviewed Local Law H of 2020, Local Law of I of 2020, and Local Law J of 2020. Local H of 2020 requires the gathering and reporting of statistics on race, age, ethnicity, and gender and the reporting of these statistics to the Common Council. Local Law I of 2020 implement a policy for the use of city-owned body or dashboard cameras by police officers and to require reporting when the cameras are turned off by the officer. Local Law J of 2020 enhances the CPRB’s authority and ability to exercise oversight, review, and resolution of community complaints alleging abuse of police authority.
B
B
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
I,
I
think,
just
based
on
our
earlier
conversations
from
the
previous
meeting,
that
local
laws,
both
h
and
I
will
be
good
to
go
and
we
can
pass
out
a
committee
and
the
cprb
local
law.
J
will
take
will
be
a
lengthier
discussion,
but
just
in
general,
just
talking
about
how
we
got
here,
there's
stuff
going
on
nationally.
That
brings
us
to
the
place
that
we
are
it's
not
a
new
thing.
B
These
reforms
have
been
in
the
making
and
been
needed
long
before
the
incident
with
mr
floyd
in
a
unique
place
on
this,
having
I'm
a
black
man.
So
it's
my
lived
experience,
certainly
not
to
the
extent
that
mr
floyd
dealt
with
and
I'm
a
police
officer,
and
probably
always
will
be
and
think
that
way
we
need
change.
We
we
need
change
and
this
this
is
it
we're
having
a
discussion
and
trying
to
come
to
an
agreement
on
what's
acceptable.
B
What
I
would
argue
is
that
from
the
police
side,
we
need
a
little
more
give.
This
isn't
punitive,
it's
it's
not
it's!
It's!
These
people's
lives
are
affected
and
impacted
with
some
of
the
decisions
that
we
make
or
you
all
are
making
now
as
police
officers.
So
it's
important
to
to
to
taking
that
into
account
and,
and
have
that
be
a
part
of
the
decision
making.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
since
really
the
the
most
heaviest
lift
in
this
reform
centers
on
cprb
recommendations.
B
B
Mr
igo
is
here
from
the
committee
ms
frederick
is
here
from
the
committee.
Am
I
missing
any
other
committee
member,
oh
alfredo
ballerin,
mr
ballard
is
here
also
from
the
committee.
That's
it
for
our
committee
in
in
terms
of
council
members
that
are
here.
We
have
mr
johnson,
mr
conte,
mr
nani,
mr
flynn.
B
B
A
A
E
B
B
F
D
F
Sure
I'm
happy
to
summarize
so,
and
I
want
to
I
want
to
make
super
clear
before
I
start
that
I
don't
I'm
not
a
member
of
the
cprb,
so
I'm
I
serve
on
the
collaborative
as
a
representative
of
albany
law
school
and
the
law
school
essentially
staffs
the
cprb.
So
I'm
happy
to
summarize
the
recommendations
that
the
board
made
last
week,
if
that's
helpful,
but
I
know
I'd
be
grateful
if,
if
nairobi
or
vanilla
wants
to
jump
in
at
any
point,
please
do
that.
F
The
first
letter,
which
was
sent
in
june,
made
some
recommendations
which
I
believe
have,
for
the
most
part,
been
incorporated
into
the
bill.
That's
already
in
front
of
the
council.
Those
included
that
all
apd
policies
be
posted
publicly,
that
all
disciplinary
information
about
apd
officers
or
disciplinary
process
be
made
publicly
available.
F
F
The
second
letter,
which
was
on
july
5th,
recommended
that
the
cprb
be
given
the
power
to
conduct
independent
investigations.
So
currently,
as
as
the
committee
members
know,
the
cprb
does
investigations
only
in
the
sense
that
it
reviews
the
investigations
that
are
conducted
by
the
office
of
professional
standards,
that
is,
the
internal
affairs
unit
for
apd.
F
The
cprb
recommended
that
it
be
given
its
own
independent
investigative
authority.
It
also
recommended
that
the
cprb
be
given
subpoena
power
and
that
this
that
the
common
council
clarified
that
the
cprb
can
initiate
its
own
complaints.
In
other
words,
rather
than
waiting
for
a
member
of
the
public
to
file
a
complaint,
the
cprb
would
be
able
to
invest
initiate
its
own
complaints.
The
board
members
believed
that
that
power
already
exists,
but
the
statute
could
be
more
clear
on
that
point.
F
The
board
also
asked
for
authorization
to
hire
independent,
full-time
counsel.
Currently,
the
albany
law
school
advises
the
board,
but
the
role
of
legal
counsel
falls
to
the
office
of
corporation
council
within
the
city,
which
is
the
same
entity
that
ultimately
provides
legal
advice
to
the
police
department,
and
so
the
recommendation
was
for
independent
council.
F
The
board
also
asked
for
funding
for
a
position
called
complainant
advocate,
which
is
somebody
who
would
be
tasked
with
assisting
complainants
with
filing
a
complaint,
but
also
providing
other
support
that
they
need.
Currently,
the
government
law
center
does
support
complainants
and
we
talk
them
through
the
process.
We
help
them
understand
we're
in
regular
contact
with
them.
F
Third
authorizing
the
cprb
to
conduct
a
full
audit
or
inspection
of
a
police
officer's
disciplinary
history.
When
they've
been
the
subject
of
a
complaint
forth,
ensuring
the
cprb
is
representative
of
the
community
by
appointing
or
potentially
allowing
residents
to
elect
a
member
that
is
a
victim
of
police
brutality
and
at
least
one
member
that
resides
in
a
neighborhood
or
district
with
disproportionate
police
activity.
F
Fifth
authorizing
and
funding
the
cprb
to
conduct
an
annual
survey
of
police
community
relations,
similar
to
what
the
center
for
law
and
justice
did
with
their
recent
study,
but
on
a
funded
and
more
regular
basis
and
finally
requiring
that
a
racial
racial
bias.
Audit,
like
the
one
that
was
recently
conducted
by
cna,
be
conducted
at
least
once
every
five
years.
So
obviously,
that's
that's
a
lot
of
recommendations
and
I'm.
F
F
G
G
We
have
heard
from
many
members
of
the
community
saying
that
the
process
is
not
understandable.
It's
lengthy
and
many
of
the
the
recommendations
that
we
have
and
proposals
that
we
put
forward,
such
as
independent
investigative
power
and
subpoena
power,
seek
to
make
the
process
more
efficient
and
also
to
separate
us
from
the
investigation
that
that
apd,
conducts
and
and
overall
also
with
the
independent
council,
like
ava,
said.
Currently
we
would
be
using
corporation
council
and
there
just
is
an
inherent
conflict
there.
G
So
so
just
the
overarching
purpose
of
all
of
these
proposals-
discipline
investigation
subpoena
power.
All
those
things
is
to
make
the
board
stronger
to
make
the
the
recommendations
that
we
make
and
the
review
that
we
do
to
have
more
teeth,
as
many
people
in
the
community
have
been
calling
for
for
years.
So
I
don't
daniel.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
but
that
is
that
is
our
basic
purpose.
H
B
I
Sure
I'm
going
to
probably
jump
back
and
forth.
I
have
another
meeting
I
have
to
be
at
so
I
might
be
back
and
forth
and
try
to
do
two.
So
you
know,
as
I
indicated
with
the
three
cprb
letters
I
think
the
one
we
had
on
june
22nd
was
the
one
we
had
when
we
were
drafting
the
amendments.
So
we
tried
to
incorporate
those
and
then
the
july
5th
one
came
in
later
and
I
think
there
are
elements
there
that
we
want
to
incorporate,
including
clarifying
the
independent
subpoena
power.
I
That
was
in
the
the
initial
draft,
and
you
know
I'd
like
to
hear
some
of
the
discussion
in
terms
of
the
the
fifth
letter
which
I
really
just
kind
of
did
a
lot
of
reviewing,
and
I
think
what
we've
seen
is
this.
You
know
body
really
evolving
from
where
we
were
when
this
was
first
established
back
in
2000
and
2020,
which
was
I'm
sorry
back
in
2000
20
years
ago,
which
was
a
different
time,
and
you
know
this.
I
This
was
seen
somewhat
as
the
middle
ground
between
a
totally
independent
board
and
someone
that
was
kind
of
advisory.
But
we
got
there
one
of
the
the
areas
that
I
really
have
always
you
know
like
which
I'd
like
to
hear
more
discussion
on
is
the
independent
disciplinary
power
and
I'm
trying
to
square
that
with
the
need
for
department
heads
to
be
able
to
have
disciplinary
power
over
their
own
employees
and
what
is
the
impact
of
in
effect,
or
at
least
in
certain
cases,
taking
that
away
from
the
chief.
I
So
that's
something
I
just
want
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about,
and
maybe
some
more
discussion
on
that
and
how
that
works,
and
that
that's
the
main
one
that
really
jumps
out
on
me
that
I'd
like
to
have
and
then
in
terms
of
the
the
appointment
and
the
composition
of
the
board.
I
mean
it
was
always
intended
that
it
be
representative
of
the
city
as
a
whole
and
making
sure
that
the
appointees
were
fair,
unbiased,
independent.
I
I
Delegitimize
any
of
those
concerns,
but
are
you
putting
someone
on
that,
might
have
a
bias
and
that
bias
might
reflect
in
terms
of
some
of
the
judgments?
I'm
not
sure.
If
I'm,
you
know
trying
to
express
it
in
a
way
to
how
do
you?
How
do
you
separate
that
out,
etc?
So,
but
you
know
I
know
the
intent
is
to
have
more
discussion
on
this
tonight,
but
not
to
act
tonight
and
you
know
there's.
I
think
it's
a
good
conversation
in
the
process
that
we're
getting
through.
G
G
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
our
purpose
in
requesting
that
is
just
so
that
the
board
is
always
truly
representative,
truly
representative
of
the
people
that
are
in
contact
with
the
with
the
police
and
who
the
neighborhoods
that
are
being
over
police.
So
I
I
don't
know
that,
speaking
to
the
bias
of
someone
that
someone
that
may
be
a
victim
of
police
brutality,
I
don't
know,
I
think
it
was
an
or
ava
is
it.
C
H
If
I
may
add
councilman,
this
is
benellia
that
another
part
of
this
is
about
having
representation.
That
is,
is
different,
non-traditional
than
the
same
community
leaders
stepping
up
to
create
not
just
the
transparency
but
the
relationship
building
that
we
talk
about
and
filling
that
between
policing
and
community
members.
H
B
J
Yes,
thank
you
kelly
and
good
evening.
Everybody
I've
been
well
informed
on
the
the
proposals
that
have
been
raised.
I
believe,
since
either
early
june
or
late
may,
the
cprb
has
been
fantastic.
I
keep
meeting
the
loop
on
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
they
want
to
try
to
enhance
as
far
as
their
you
know,
teamwork
and
assistance
and
and
what
my
office
does
and
answering
the
complaints
from
the
community.
J
J
You
know
with
regards
to
the
investigations
and-
and
you
know,
ensuring
the
community
members
that
bring
those
those
issues
to
our
attention
as
police
department
that
they're
being
investigated
properly.
You
know
objectively
and
and
impartially
so
I
mean
that's
why
I
really
had
me.
I've
shared
my
thoughts,
the
best
that
I
can
within
our
cprv
meetings
and
I've
told
the
board
that
you
know
there
are
certain
proposals
on
the
agenda
that
I
do
think
that
actually
would.
K
Yeah,
I'm
still
here,
thanks
jr
have
a
little
bit
of
laryngitis.
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
thank.
I
want
to
again
thank
you
all
for
having
this
meeting
to
follow
up
with
what
nairobi
and
ava
and
veneer
are
saying
the
per,
and
also
to
address
councilman
county's
question
on
conte's
concern.
I
I
do
feel
that
we're
moving
originally.
As
you
said,
when
the
board
was
formed,
we
were
in
a
different
time.
K
I
think
that
what's
happening
is
that
things
are
coming
together
in
here
locally
and
with
what
people's
voices
community
voices
to
get
us
to
the
point
where
now
we
are
wanting
we
are,
we
do
need
to
expand
the
cpr
be
and
also
be
more
inclusive.
As
far
as
members
go,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
have
a
diver.
K
I
keep
saying
this
a
diverse
group
of
people
that
bring
diverse
ideas,
so
I
don't
think
it's
so
much
that
we
lose
our
objective
objectiveness
if
we
are,
if
we
have
experiences
with
that
work,
didn't
work
out
so
well
with
police.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
view,
a
community
view
a
necessary
conversation.
If
you
will,
that
needs
to
happen
and
that's
why
we
want
to
expand
the
membership
of
this
board
and
have
more
people
on
here
that
that
have
experienced
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
see
in
our
in
our
cases.
C
C
C
However,
if
it's
albany
larvae
somebody
else
which
was
briefly
discussed
in
another
meeting,
there
was
an
independent
council,
then
there
was
investigators
etc.
Now
I
don't
know
what
this
is
adding
up
to
okay,
so
it's
just
one
thing
that
came
to
mind
and
you
really
have
to
look
at
that
budget
in
light
of
everything
that's
going
on
now,
so
I
have
no
idea.
E
C
I
want
to
give
from
kudos
to
the
police
department
some
of
the
things
that
they've
been
ahead
on
and
I
thought
we're
taking
this
up
first
tonight
with
the
cameras.
Okay,
that's
sustaining
operating
procedures.
Right
now,
I
believe-
and
I
think
alfredo's
piece
on
the
statistics
was
a
big
concern
that
come
up
in
the
audit.
I
think
we're
ready
to
do
that.
I
know
I
am
yeah
so
sometime
tonight.
B
Right
and
thank
you,
mr
argo,
it
it's
a
lot
so,
as
I
said
when
I
started
out
about
h
and
I
local
laws
each
and
either
we
should
be
able
to
pass
those
out
tonight.
Last
meeting
we
had
there
wasn't
a
whole
lot
of
discussion
around
them.
We're
in
agreement
on
the
the
data
and
whatnot
so
that'll
be
fine.
This
cpr
be
legitimate,
is
complicated,
there's
intended
and
unintended
consequences,
and
it's
it's
a
lot
of
stuff
beyond
the
the
control
of.
C
The
other
thing
right
here
come
to
mind
when
I
first
saw
the
request
for
subpoena
power,
and
this
started
20
years
ago.
Okay,
they
were
supposed
to
come
if
they
wanted
subpoena.
Somebody
was
supposed
to
come
to
the
council
in
20
years.
This
council
has
never
gotten
one
request,
so
now,
all
of
a
sudden
20
years
they
want
complete
subpoena
power,
and
it's
like
you
know
what
I
mean.
C
Well,
we
are,
but
I
mean
some
of
the
stuff's
been
whether
it's
been
edging
up
or
whatever
for
the
need,
but
we
never
heard
of
it
and
that
kind
of
bothered
me.
You
know,
because
that
was
a
compromise
back
then
and
and
a
compromise
that
was
never
used,
and
I
know
there
were
issues
before
that
probably
could
have
been
used
in
yeah,
just
my
two
cents
right
now.
I
think
the
world
is
more
thorough,
since
I
just
received
it.
L
M
M
Second,
I
do
want
to
ask
about
the
representatives
of
the
community,
so
would
that
mean
extending
the
cprb
and
adding
more
members?
And
if
so,
do
we
have
a
sense
of
what
size
we're
looking
to
grow
to?
Is
it
only
those
two
members
that
we're
talking
about
either
police
brutality
or
representative
communities,
or
are
we
thinking
potentially
a
larger
expansion.
K
Hi
it's
ivy
morris
again.
I
feel
that
as
we're
saying
we're
going
through
this
process
and
our
our
recommendations
are
based
on
what
we've
heard
from
community
members,
so
I
I
think
that
these
are
going
to
be
difficult
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have,
but
I
think
it's
really
necessary
that
we
do,
and
it
may
include
once
we
understand,
as
mr
igo
said,
about
a
budget
about
how
many
people
would
fill
the
body
and
who
would
be
on
it.
K
I
think
that
you
know
we're
going
to
get
to
that,
and
I
think
that
it's
really.
I
think
it's
good
that
we
are
there,
but
I
think
that
we're
going
to
make
small
progress,
and
I
also
think
that
it's
not
something
that
we
can
really
envision
at
this
moment.
It's
going
to
take
more
of
us.
You
know
having
these
conversations
and
hearing
a
little
bit
more
from
the
community,
but
I
do
as
the
other
council
councilman
holm
hoey
said,
I'm
optimistic
that
we
will
get
to
it
difficult,
but
I
think
we'll
get
to
it.
M
Agreed
and
if
I
can
just
respond
to
that,
I
think
that's
important,
because
we
are
all
sort
of
in
this
state
where
we
do
want
to
move
this
forward
and
pass
legislation
because
it's
needed.
But
with
these
new
recommendations
we
will
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
adjust
and
and
modify
to
make
sure
it
gets
to
the
full
point
of
where
we
want
to
be.
So
that's
a
very
important
sentiment.
F
Could
I
add
something
to
I:
don't
I'm
not
sure
that's
appropriate?
Okay.
I
just
wanted
to
say
to
on
the
on
the
point
about
subpoena
power,
just
from
my
experience,
working
as
the
staff
to
the
cprb,
it's
important
to
understand
that,
up
until
now,
the
cprb's
scope
has
been
limited
to
basically
whether
ops
has
done
an
okay
job.
F
So
the
only
reason
there
would
ever
be
cause
to
pursue
a
subpoena
would
be
if
ops
wasn't
giving
the
cprb
some
information
that
they
had
sought
and
in
my
four
years
to
the
department's
credit,
I've
never
seen
a
situation
where
the
board
members
said
we'd
like
to
know
x
or
we'd
like
to
see
a
specific
piece
of
information
and
the
police
department
said
no.
The
police
department's
always
cooperated
fully
with
that.
F
The
subpoena
power
in
the
new
proposal
would
be
very
different
because
you're
talking
about
investigating
the
police
officers
or
witnesses
or
other
people
besides
ops.
So
it's
absolutely
true.
There's
never
been
a
subpoena
request
so
far,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
from
from
my
own
experience:
that's
because,
given
the
very
limited
scope
of
what
the
cprb
investigates,
there's
always
been
very
full
cooperation
from
the
police
department
within
that
that
limited
scope
just
in
case
that's
helpful.
C
There,
in
the
legislation,
as
it
exists
now,
there's
a
spot
where
they
say.
Investigators
may
be
former
judges,
this
that
and
whatever
okay
and
they're
going
to
be
investigators.
That's
why
I
ask
how
many
times
they've
been
used?
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
do
a
pro
bono,
so
so
that
could
be
another
expense.
Whether
they're
attorneys
investigators-
and
you
know
so
it's
just
something
that
I
am
wondering
about.
So
investigators
are
not
monitors
in
my
eyes.
F
G
If,
if
I
may
just
jump
in
for
a
second,
as
you
know,
the
the
the
board
does
not
stay
stagnant
and
although
the
subpoena
power
as
it
was
envisioned
before
hadn't,
been
used
by
previous
boards,
as
ava
said,
we
have
put
great
thought
into
reimagining
how
this
process
would
work
and
the
the
the
investigative
power
and
the
subpoena
power
we
see
working
together
so
that
we
can
initiate.
We
can
investigate
along
with
apd.
G
G
A
lot
of
people
in
the
community
are
asking
for
the
for
it
to
be
something
real
for
them
to
make
a
complaint.
It
gets
reviewed
quickly,
the
results
get
back
to
the
complainant
and
if
something
is
wrong,
that
someone
gets
to
say
you
know
that
was
wrong
and
and
recommend
discipline
or
whatever
mediation
whatever
it
may
be.
We
understand
that
that
will
cost
money
that
it
is
going
to
take.
You
know
be
a
change
from
what
the
compromise
was
20
years
ago,
but
that's
what
we
want.
G
C
N
Thank
you
sure.
I
I
think
a
lot
of
these
these
issues
of
talking
about
funding.
I
mean
we're
looking
at
one
percent,
we're
looking
at
about
a
500
550
000
budget,
which
is
a
lot
of
money.
But
if
you
look
at
our
total
budget
is,
is
a
humble
budget
for
what
I
would
consider
a
new
department
or
a
new,
a
new
entity
within
the
budget
that
then
has
to
budget
their
funds
as
appropriately
as
possible
to
be
as
productive
in
what
their
purpose
is.
N
So
I
I
think
you
know
that
would
be.
I
think
the
dollar
amount
we
can
figure
that
out,
because
it's
not
a
huge
dollar
amount
that
we're
talking
about
500
000.
I
mean
you
know
you
know
ben.
I
do
joe
you've
been
here
a
long
time.
You
know
you
can
you
can
find
500
000
in
in
the
budget
to
to
make
something
work.
N
So
I'm
I'm
a
little
more
concerned
with,
with
the
you
know,
having
an
elected
individual
on
on
on
the
board
and
how
that
would
work
with
its
current
bylaws,
where
they're
all
currently
appointed
you
know,
but
I
think
you
know
we
can
figure
that
out.
You
know,
but
that's
my
when
I'm
looking
at
this,
that's
something
that's
happening
happening
up
to
me.
N
I
also
want
to
say
this:
I'm
one
that
really
wants
us
to
do
this
right
and-
and
you
know,
get
it
right
because
you
know
this
is
something
that
may
be
on
the
books
for
a
long
time.
So
I
I
I'm
glad
we're
gonna.
Have
the
other
two
policies
moved
on
today,
but
I'm
also
glad
that
we're
listening
to
new
input
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
allow
other
members
from
the
public
to
speak.
N
B
A
B
Okay,
so
yeah
no
we'll
move
on,
but
what
I
would
say
to
members
of
the
public
that
are
going
to
be
speaking
right
now.
Just
I
need
you
to
stay
focused
on
the
policies
and
the
laws
that
we're
just
we're
discussing
here
right
now,
we're
talking
about
the
cprb
and
just
for
these
reforms
in
general.
So
I'd
like
the
comments
commentary
to
be
focused
on
what
we're
talking
about.
Okay,.
O
How
are
you
guys
doing?
You
can
hear
me?
Yes,
yep,
so
to
speak
on
everything
that
has
been
discussed
so
far
and
brought
up.
On
this
conversation.
I
would
first
like
to
speak
to
the
actual
subpoena
power
given
to
the
the
board.
It
is
very
necessary
that
that
is
given
to
the
board,
because,
as
what
we're
seeing
go
on
within
our
communities
is
people
who
really
do
want
to
get
involved
with.
What's
going
on
with
the
community
review
board,
we
really
want
we
file
complaints.
O
It
will
give
the
people
in
the
community
that
knowledge,
so
that
is
necessary
not
only
to
give
them
the
subpoena
power,
but
also
give
them
the
actual
budget
so
that
they
can
hire
the
staff
in
order
to
teach
people
and
educate
people
about
how
to
get
involved
with
them.
What
their
board
is
there
for,
and
it
is
necessary
that
this
board
is
treated
separately
than
the
office
of
professional
standards.
O
I
also
I
have
a
list
of
things
that
I
basically
have
been
jotting
down,
as
this
conversation
has
been
going
on
as
councilman
legal,
I'm,
not
I'm,
I'm
apologizing
for
botching.
Your
name
lego
has
basically
said
the
unions
are
what
have
been
stopping
a
lot
of
things
from
transpiring
when
we,
when
we
are
trying
to
really
change
anything,
especially
it
would
have
to
be
something
that
is
negotiated
with
the
union
contract
when
we
are
talking
about
giving
the
community
police
review
boards
that
actual
involvement
in
the
the
disciplinary
procedure.
O
O
This
was
submitted
to
the
police
department
by
the
defendant
who
they
illegally
arrested.
They
actually
didn't
get
any
trouble
at
all,
because
the
union
argues
for
them
to
only
have
to
redo
that
evidence-taking
class
and
there's
stuff
like
that.
There's
stuff,
like
the
kimani
addison
situation,
where
those
officers
are
still
walking
the
streets
still
getting
paid
they're
still
out
after
they
really
just
kidnap
someone
live
on
on
camera
and
we're
calling
it
something
different
because
of
the
union
protection
if
they
weren't
protected
with
immunity.
O
Those
officers
who
lied
on
those
reports
committed
perjury,
which
is
a
misdemeanor
and
them
committing
that
act
of
misdemeanor,
while
acting
on
a
duty,
is
also
a
misdemeanor
and
they
violated
their
oath
of
offices.
So
they
should
no
longer
be
police,
and
these
are
things
that
are
being
argued
against
due
to
what
is
going
on
with
the
unions
and
their
ability
to
protect
people
who
basically
make
flagrant
acts
of
violation,
not
only
legal
violations,
but
also
violations
of
their
policies.
O
When
we're
talking
about
giving
them
subpoena
power.
We're
talking
about
giving
them
actual
power
for
real
disciplinary
action
to
be
given
here
when
we're
talking
about
renegotiating
the
contract,
to
include
them
into
disciplinary
action.
We're
talking
about
actually
really
giving
out
disciplinary
action
moving
forward
when
we're
talking
about
new
people
on
the
board.
O
So
we
want
to
really
give
that
that
inclusiveness
into
what's
going
on,
especially
even
when
it
comes
to
these
racial
bias
audits
having
them
done
every
five
years.
That
is
a
good
suggestion.
We
don't
want
to
have
racist
police,
but
when
we're
saying
we
don't
want
to
have
racist
police,
what
are
we
doing
to
stop
racist
police,
doing
an
audit
to
audit
them
and
see
if
they're
being
racist
is
one
thing,
but
if
they
are
being
racist?
What
are
we
doing
with
this
this?
This
data?
Are
we
firing
these
people?
O
Are
we
giving
them
racial
bias
training
if
they
complete
that
racial
bias,
training
but
still
show
racial
biases?
What
are
our
next
steps?
We
don't
want
to
have
a
police
department
that
allows
races
in
their
ranks,
so
we
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
these
these
audits
are
actually
doing
something
you
just
seen
recently
with
the
police
officer
who
was
talking
to
the
sheriff's
deputy,
how
he
feels
about
the
black
community.
That
was
a
casual
conversation
that
he
was
having
casually
that's,
not
the
first
time
he
had
that.
O
Nor
was
that
the
first
time
he
had
that
with
a
co-worker,
and
you
can
tell
that
just
by
how
calm
he
was,
how
easy
it
was
to
to
go
about
doing
that.
So
it's
definitely
necessary
again.
The
subpoena
power
new
people
on
the
board,
the
racial
biases,
but
we
need
to
expand
on
what
those
racial
bias
audits
will
do.
What
is
coming
from
that
information?
O
B
O
O
I'm
sorry
I
go
so
he
said
it
was
a
compromise
before
giving
the
the
the
the
the
community
police
review
board
subpoena
power
and
I'm
really
big
on
semantics.
He
said
it
was
a
compromise
so
like
that
shouldn't
be
a
compromise,
giving
the
community
the
ability
to
also
call
for
investigations
that
should
be
equalness,
because
this
is
about
this
movement.
All
right
now
is
all
about
equal
and
inclusion.
O
I
just
want
to
really
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
this
is
no
longer
a
civil
right
movement
that
no
one's
asking
for
anyone
to
be
civil
with
them
that
we're
asking
for
equalness
that
everyone
is
included
that
everyone
is
equal
here,
but
to
proceed
about
what
I
was
saying.
We
really
want
to
make
sure
because
the
office
of
professional
standards,
even
when
police
officer,
christopher
keto,
kaido
and
utica,
was,
was
arrested
for
basically
killing
a
man
while
he
was
purchasing
a
prostitute,
they
didn't
ascend,
eternal
affairs
out
there.
O
O
O
So
back
to
the
legislation
giving
them
giving
people
access
to
subpoena
power
and
the
data
is
really
necessary
and
adding
new
people
to
the
board
is
really
necessary
so
that
we
can
get
new
suggestions,
new
things
included
in
it's
all
about
equalness
and
inclusion,
I'll
I'll.
Stop!
I'm
going
for
right
now.
A
B
L
Hi
good
evening
can,
can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman
kim
group,
for
convening
this
meeting,
and-
and
I
really
appreciate
mr
forbes-
your
comments
just
now
as
well.
Thank
you
for
that.
So
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
as
brief
as
I
can,
but
I
may
have
trouble
doing
that,
but
I'll
try.
L
L
L
L
What
I'm
hoping
is
that
we
will
see
something
new
in
that
the
albany
common
council
and
the
mayor
will
finally
see
fit
to
take
action
in
a
bold
manner
to
really
take
on
the
issues
of
racism,
brutality
and
lack
of
accountability
on
the
part
of
the
albany
police
department
and
that's
in
your
hands.
All
of
the
members
of
the
council
who
are
on
this
call.
You
can
either
decide
to
try
to
tinker
with
something
again
give
a
tiny
bit
more
power.
Give
a
little
bit
more
of
this
a
little
bit
more
of
that.
L
L
I
fully
supply
I'm
completely
impressed
and
overwhelmed
really
by
the
thoroughness
and
the
detail
and
the
boldness
of
the
proposals
that
have
come
from
the
board
itself
and
I'm
in
full
support
of
the
proposals
that
are
outlined
in
the
december
12th
letter
from
the
board,
and
I
guess
you
know
this
we
should
all
be.
We
should
all
be
sick
and
tired
of
tinkering
in
little
minor
reforms,
because
you
know
the
problems
will
not
go
away,
and
so
what's
needed
is
to
have
a
board
with
willpower.
L
What's
needed
is
have
a
board
that
truly
is
representative
the
board.
That
has
the
resources
to
do
what's
necessary
to
to
take
on
issues
of
community
police
relations
and
to
investigate
and
take
action
when
something
is
wrong
and
to
by
doing
that,
build
confidence
in
the
public,
build
confidence
in
the
community
and
and
ensure
that
there
will
be
changes
in
the
functioning
of
the
albany
police
department.
L
L
You
know
to
I
mean
mr
conte,
you
raised
it.
It's
really
interesting
question
you
know:
should
we
ensure
that
there
are
people
on
the
board
who
have
themselves
been
subjected
to
police
brutality
and
police
misconduct,
and
you
ask
well,
wouldn't
might
that
result
in
some
bias
among
those
members,
and
I
think
I
mean
respectfully
mr
conte,
I
think
the
question
is
just
backwards,
because
what
you
didn't
ask
does
having
somebody
on
the
board,
who
has
not
experienced
police
brutality.
L
L
L
Frankly,
I
would
support
having
a
board
entirely
made
up
of
people
who
have
experienced
police
brutality
or
misconduct
who
better
understands
how
this
actually
works.
What
the
harm
is
the
trauma
that
people
face
the
continuing
effect
of
such
trauma,
who
understands
that
better
than
people
who
have
actually
experienced
it?
L
I
understand
we're
not
going
to
you
know.
You
know
my
proposal
that
all
the
members
of
the
board
be
people
who've
experienced
that
that's
not
going
happen,
but
but
we
could
at
least
have
one
person
or
more
than
one
person
who
has
to
to
share
that
viewpoint
than
that
experience
and
what
it
means
to
be
brutalized
what
it
means
to
have
a
lack
of
accountability
by
law
enforcement.
L
What
it
means
to
have
to
live
with
that.
What
the
impact
of
that
is
on
your
family
on
your
community
to
have
that
viewpoint
within
the
board,
I
think,
would
be
invaluable
in
my
council
member,
mr
igo,
you
know
I
some
interesting
question,
so
you
know
subpoena
power.
The
truth
is
the
subpoena
power
was
not
in
the
original
board
when
it
was
adopted
20
years
ago
it
came
in
a
little
bit
later.
L
It
was
indeed
a
compromise
and,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
it
was
a
it
deals
with
a
very,
very
specific
issue
within
the
very
limited
powers
that
this
port
has,
and
so
the
fact
that
that
subpoena
power
that
is
very
limited
and
only
deals
with
situation
where
ops
has
made
a
report.
The
board's
dissatisfied
with
that
report
has
asked
for
a
response
and
doesn't
get
an
adequate
response
to
their
expression
of
dissatisfaction.
L
L
In
regards
to
the
funding
issue,
council
I
mean-
I
guess
I
mean
councilman
ballerin
sort
of
answered.
You
know.
One
percent
of
the
police
department
budget
is
actually
not
that
much,
which
is
true.
In
addition
to
that,
you
know
we
could.
The
city
could
save
quite
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
in
several
ways
number
one
cut
the
cut
the
police
department
drastically,
so
you'll
cut
that
budget
drastically.
L
Why
are
we
spending
so
much
money
as
a
city
for
a
police
department
that
functions
in
that
manner?
So,
let's
dramatically
slash
that
budget,
that
would
save
money
in
the
police
department,
but
also
would
mean
that
the
one
percent
for
the
review
board
is
much
less.
So
that's
a
way
to
save
money
plus-
and
somebody
mentioned
this
in
the
chat-
and
I
fully
agree-
I
think
it
was
lauren
manning
who
mentioned
the
chat.
Thank
you
lauren.
L
L
How
much
money
is
wasted
on
that?
How
much
money
is
spent
settlements
and
verdicts
against
the
city,
which
is
not
wasted
money,
but
how
much
money
is
spent
on
that?
All
of
that
could
be
used
in
much
better
ways
for
the
betterment
of
the
people
of
the
city
of
albany
to
improve
our
neighborhoods,
improve
our
community
improve
opportunity
for
everybody,
so
I'm
all
in
favor
of
saving
money,
but
not
by
take
by
refusing
to
give
money
to
the
police
review
board
and
refusing
to
give
them
power.
L
L
I'm
trying
to
be
optimistic
that
this
is
the
time
the
albany
common
council
will
step
up,
will
demand
bold
action,
we'll
take
bold
action,
we'll
say
the
business
as
usual
is
no
longer
going
to
be
accepted,
and
it
really
is
time
to
move
forward
in
a
positive
way
into
the
future.
I'm
hoping-
and
I
hope
I'm
not
disappointed.
Thank
you.
B
P
Thank
you.
I'm
jumping
back
on
the
camera
here,
so
thank
you.
So
much
address
is
six
south
marshall
street
albany,
new
york
and
just
wanna.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight
and
I've
been
very
appreciative
of
the
questions,
comments
from
council
members
and
the
community
following
mark's
comments.
I'll
just
say
that
and
when
councilman
ballerin
said
you
know
this
may
be
on
the
books
for
a
long
time.
So
we
want
to
get
this
right.
P
P
It's
not
easy
what
it's
not
easy
work
and
I've
sat
there
with
with
all
of
you
and
understand
how
difficult
it
can
be
at
times
in
in
your
shoes,
and
so
I
just
commend
you
all
for
having
these
meetings
and
having
authentic
conversations
about
what
we
need
to
be
doing
as
it
relates
to
that.
My
question
is
specific
about
the
audit,
the
recommendation
to
have
the
audit
conducted
every
five
years.
P
One
of
the
things
that
I
learned
early
on
is
that
the
audit
gives
us
a
baseline
to
assess
disparities
and
racial
outcomes,
and
the
baseline
then
gives
us
the
tools
to
evaluate
how
well
we
are
doing
as
a
city
from
that
point
on,
and
so,
if
we
wait
five
years,
my
concern
is
that
how
much
is
missed
over
that
period
of
time,
and
so
as
chief
city
auditor
in
this
moment,
is
something
that
my
office
is
looking
at.
How
often
should
we
be
implementing
an
evaluation
of
audit
findings?
P
G
Dorsey,
I
can
jump
in,
I
I
think
it
says
at
least
every
five
years,
and
I
think
that
the
proposal
when
it
was
written
was
taking
into
account
the
cost
and
we
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
continued
to
happen
on
some
regular
basis.
But
we
definitely
aren't
opposed
to
what
you're
saying
on
an
annual
or
more
frequent
basis
and
and
your
expertise
in
that.
We
understand
we're
just
saying
to
make
sure
that
it
continues
to
happen
on
some
regular
basis.
Q
Q
Okay,
so
I
wasn't
going
to
speak
and
then
I
was
and
then
mark
micheller
hit
out
most
of
it.
So
I'll
be
very
brief.
I
want
to
say
I'm
in
support
of
all
of
the
recommendations
from
the
cprb's
december
12th
letter,
but
in
particular
I
just
wanted
to
discuss
how
important
an
advocate
is
and
how
necessary
it
is.
Oh,
let
me
start
here
my
address:
eight
tyler
trice,
terrace
albany
new
york,
one
two,
two:
zero,
seven,
the
former
idr
bro.
Q
Q
We
are
a
site:
the
center
for
law
and
justice
who
accepts
those
complaints
when
people
don't
want
to
go
to
the
police
station,
and
I
will
say
from
my
experiences:
most
people
who
come
through
our
office
need
help
completing
the
complaint
form,
not
just
because
of
issues
of
their
ability
to
read
and
write.
But
as
you
can
imagine,
when
you've
experienced
something
traumatic,
it's
really
really
hard
to
sort
of
sit
down
and
put
that
all
in
writing.
If
writing
is
not.
Q
You
know
your
normal
best
way
of
communicating,
so
I
think
it's
necessary
for
that,
but
I
also
think
it's
necessary
to
address
issues
of
fear
of
retaliation.
I
do
understand
that.
Currently,
the
board
is
tasked
with
protecting
complainants
from
retaliation,
but
I
don't
know
how
they
do
that
without
all
of
these
recommendations,
the
increased
power
and
the
increased
budget
in
place
to
do
that,
and
even
right
down
to
somebody,
may
be
saying
something
legally
incriminating
if
they've
been
charged,
but
yet
they
want
to
put
the
complaint
in.
Q
So
I
think
that
advocate
is
really
really
necessary.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
I
think
it's
an
excellent
idea
to
have
a
formal
community
survey
like
the
one
the
center
did.
I
felt
as
if
it
was
really
sort
of
ignored
and
brushed
off
as
not
being
scientific,
but
you
guys
have
all
the
money
to
make
that
happen
and
if
nothing
else,
those
results
should
have
prompted
a
formal
one
by
the
city
and
it
didn't
so.
I
was
a
little.
You
know
saddened
to
see
that
it
didn't
prompt
one.
Q
Q
I
think
it
encompasses
everything
that
I
personally
and
through
work
here
from
many
community
members
and
it
they
just
really
need
to
be
supported
in
these
recommendations,
because
those
are
the
ones
who
know
best
and
I
think
it's
really
important,
even
if
you're
not
specifically
looking
for
somebody
who
has
experienced
police
brutality,
you
need
to
at
least
have
one
at
least
one
c
voted
on
by
community
members.
They
should
be
appointed
by
the
community,
somebody
that
we
feel
will
represent
our
interest.
Q
I
think
most
of
the
members
of
the
board
do
the
best
job
they
can
within
the
box
they're
given,
but
right
now
the
community
has
no
trust,
no
even
expectations
at
this
point
from
the
cprb
and
it's
not
because
of
the
individual
members,
but
the
box
they're
given
in
given
to
work
within
is
just
so
small
it's
ineffective.
It's
really
does
nothing,
nothing
at
all
and
if
this
is
supposed
to
be
our
police
department
that
our
tax
dollars
pay
for-
and
this
is
what
you
guys
hear
the
community
calling
for.
Q
R
Thank
you
how's
it
going
guys.
My
name
is
aiden
suck.
I'm
part
of
the
youth
political
alliance
born
and
raised
in
the
south
end
of
albany
lived
here
23
years.
My
whole
life.
I
just
want
to
first
say
that
I'm
in
support
of
the
board's
december
12
recommendations
fully.
I
want
to
speak
directly
to
the
council
and
saying
that
you
know
dragging
your
feet
on
this,
will
sort
of
perpetuate
a
long
history
of
albany
politics
being
defined
by
like
a
machine
system
that
is
really
designed
to
maintain
the
status
quo.
R
Not
just
like
on
the
streets
or
even
on
forums
like
this,
but
at
the
ballot
box
as
well,
we've
seen
that
happen
around
the
count
around
the
country.
It's
gonna
happen
in
albany,
it's
already
happening
in
albany.
I
just
want
you
guys
to
all
be
aware
of
that.
You
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
get
this
done
straight
up.
I
mean,
like
we've
mentioned,
that
this
has
been
an
issue
for
20
years.
I,
as
a
young
person
right
now.
R
This
has
been
an
issue
for
me
only
recently,
as
I've
become
more
political,
active,
politically
active
in
the
last
couple
years,
but
I
just
want
to
really
stress
that
that,
like
the
time
is
now
for
you
guys
to
really
step
up
and
make
this,
you
know
a
a
a
really
big
deal
for
you
guys,
because
it's
a
big
deal
to
us
in
the
community.
This
is
something
that
affects
people
in
the
community
every
single
day,
all
the
time.
R
So
please
don't
like
drag
your
feet
on
this
or
block
or
obstruct
the
voting
process
in
any
type
of
way.
You
know
that.
That's
really
all
I
want
to
say.
Thank
you
guys,
obviously,
for
the
work
cprb
appreciate
you
guys
and
the
work
that
you
guys
have
been
doing.
It
really
means
a
lot,
and
specifically
also
thanks
for
everyone
else
from
the
community.
That's
spoken.
B
B
B
B
Right,
and
so
what
I
I
would
say
also
is
that
amendment:
can
you
pull
it
up
on
your
screen
just
to
give
folks
a
look
and
see
what
it
is?
It's
just
a
minor
one
line
that
was
at
it.
We
were
all
pretty
much
in
agreement
last
meeting
with
the
data
collection
of
local
law
h,
I,
the
only
change
mr
ricciardo
can
bring
that
up.
B
Can
we
all
see
that
it's
the
report
from
the
police
chief
of
the
common
council
based
on
the
calendar
year
reported
a
number
of
times?
Cameras
have
been
turned
off
and
the
summary
of
reasons
the
requests
were
approved.
The
addition
is
section:
one
report
shall
identify
any
officer
who
has
turned
off
their
camera
more
than
once
in
a
reporting
period.
That's
the
that's
the
amendment.
B
B
B
L
Hey
kelly,
I
wanted
to
find
out
about
jay
because
in
the
text
box
I
I
respect
a
lot.
What
mark
mitchell
says-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
this
right-
I
don't
want
to
delay
it,
but
one
of
the
things
he
said.
Maybe
there
could
be
other
things
in
there.
Is
it
too
late
to
add
to
this
if
we
needed
to
or.
B
So
jay
yeah,
no,
the
whole
purpose
of
us
having
this
conversation
now
is
to
add
to
jay.
We
just
got
that
last
list
of
recommendations
from
the
cprv
like
two
days
ago,
so
the
idea
is
to
try
to
incorporate
this
stuff
so
that
you
know
the
comments
from
this
meeting
will
be
incorporated
into
that
stuff.
For
our
I
mean,
we've
had
a
decent
amount
of
input.
I
think
our
next
meeting
we
could
have
all
of
this
tight
everyone's
comments
and
edits
and
amendments
in
there
and
and
just
move
forward
with
it.
L
L
B
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
those
two
h
and
I
passed
out
with
a
positive
recommendation,
we'll
move
on
to
the
see
the
full
council
for
local
law
jay.
We
gotta
have
to
make
the
amendment
and
actually
to
your
point,
mr
holy.
Maybe
we
should
have
some
other
voices.
I
mean
aside
from
just
the
the
letter
for
reference.
Maybe
some
of
the
folks
involved
in
coming
up
with
those
edits
or
amendments
should
be
in
in
the
conversation.
B
What
I'll
do
is
as
we're
we're
discussing
it
I'll
have
michelle
our
michelle,
miss
andre
reach
out
to
both
members
of
the
cprb
and
any
other
interested
parties
about
as
we
move
forward
and
we
craft
and
put
it
together
to
to
look
in
on
the
changes
that
were
made.
So
you
can
see
it
down
on
paper
as
as
we
move
forward.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and.
D
Also
yeah
also
do
not
forget
this
local
law
might
have
an
amendment
with
some
financial
impacts
on
it
as
well.
So
we
have
to
really
look
at
that
as
well.
Putting
that
part
of
the
local
law
if
we're
going
in
that
direction.
So
that
would
be
a
major
amendment
as
well
right,
financial
impact
right
right,
local
law.
If
we
choose
to
go
that
way,.
B
Right
for
for
we're
talking
local
rj,
so
yeah
with
that,
I
would,
unless
someone
or
anyone
had
anything
further.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
input.
I
it's
it's
invaluable
and
we'll
be
in
touch
moving
forward.
The
idea
is
for
this
to
be
open,
transparent
and
again.
All
of
these.
What
we're
doing
here
is
to
try
to
build
in
transparency,
to
to
make
and
build
a
better
relationship
between
the
police
and
our
communities,
and
I
think
this.
B
This
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
not
necessary.
So
with
that,
if
no
one
has
anything
further,
I
want
to
move
to
adjourn
the
meeting
again.
I
can't
really
see
my
screen
so
for
any
any
one
of
the
chats
where
folks
text
it.
I
it's
just
a
black
box,
I
don't
know
if
it's
zoom,
I
should
have
updated
it
or
something,
but
I
can't
I
can't
see
anything.
Did
I
miss
anything?
Mr
pichardo?
Is
anyone
messaging
something
I
should
be
focusing
on.
K
Albany
deserves
the
community
of
albany,
deserves
transparency,
accountability
and
whatever
it
takes
to
get
to
that,
whether
it
be
funding
or
or
expanding
boards
or
starting
new
programs.
I
think
that's
again.
This
is
the
time
to
do
it.
I
think
that
also
to
look
into
how
this
may
help
cost
effective
wise
moving
forward.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
again,
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
including
us.
In
the
conversations
the
cprb
worked
really
hard
ask
ava.
K
S
S
You
know
there's
nothing
better
than
an
idea
that
has
arrived,
and
I
think
that
sometimes
you
know
individuals
want
most
of
the
time.
The
perfect
is
the
enemy
of
the
good,
and
we
shouldn't
do
that.
You
know
the
people
of
albany
do
not
serve
the
police
department.
The
police
department
is
supposed
to
protect
and
serve
the
residents,
and
I
feel
that
this
discussion
and
all
the
ideas
that
are
being
put
forward
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
S
S
It
really
means
a
lot
individuals
in
this
city,
particularly
in
communities
of
color,
don't
trust
the
police
department
for
the
most
part,
and
I
think
that
these
reforms
will
gain
some
of
that
confidence
back
and
know
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
law
enforcement
in
this
city
work
for
the
people
and
if
the
people
want
reforms,
that's
exactly
what
they're
going
to
get.
There
are
individuals
who
are
a
little
bit
concerned
about
the
one
percent
of
the
55
million
dollars.
That
is
coming
me
personally,
I
think
that's.
Actually.
S
We
should
look
at
increasing
that
number.
If
we
really
want
to
have
independence
as
it
relates
to
holding
law
enforcement
accountable,
we
need
individuals
who
are
going
to
do
the
work.
We
need
individuals
who
are
going
to
have
the
resources
to
provide
that
confidence
that
many
communities
of
color
are
demanding
and
asking
for.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
who
is
supporting
these
reforms.
S
I
would
thank
individuals
who
have
been
advocating
for
this
in
the
90s
and
2000s,
and
I
know
that
there's
some.
I
think
it
was
a
council
member
igor
who
said
that
there
was
subpoena
powers
that
were
given
a
complaint
that
was
given
20
years
ago.
Individuals
didn't
come
forward
well
today's
a
new
day
in
albany
and
I'm
pretty
sure
that
if
we
give
them
the
subpoena
powers,
there
are
individuals
who
are
going
to
come
forward.
S
This
is
the
the
sentiment
of
many
of
our
residents
and
I'm
glad
that
all
of
us
are
working
together
to
restore
the
confidence
that
the
residents
are
asking
for
and
another
note
there's
a.
I
know
that
councilman
aigo's
councilman
hoey
said
that
is
you
know
we
should
wait
a
little
bit
to
get
some
response
from
mark
mitchell
and
other
community
members,
and
while
I
support
that,
I
think
that
we
need
to
get
this
moving.
S
We
need
to
pass
this
this
year,
just
as
delayed
as
justice
denied,
and
I
think
that
any
longer
to
pass
this
into
next
year
will
actually
lose
the
confidence
of
many
of
the
residents.
We
had
a
press
conference
in
june
about
some
of
these
reforms.
We
are
six
months
and
now
is
we're
finally
passing
these
reforms,
so
any
we
are
essentially
delayed
and
I
would
like
to
pass
this
at
the
next
council
meeting
local
law-
I
local
h
local
oj.
So
if
you
have
any
recommendation,
please
send
it
to
us
immediately.
M
B
Yeah
I
mean
the
two
we
passed
out:
the
local
law
j.
We
have
to
add
language
for
the
new
recommendations.
The
thing
is,
I
mean,
there's
a
cause
and
effect
in
here.
It's
not
as
simple
as
saying:
okay,
let's
shove
this
all
in
there,
we
gotta
kind
of
be
realistic
about
how
this
plays
out.
I
support
the
reforms,
but
again
it's
it's.
There's
budgetary
issues,
there's
some
some
questions
that
have
not
been
answered,
but
I'm
sure
in
short
order.
B
We
can
come
together
and
and
take
care
of
that.
I
don't
mr
nani's
timeline,
for
we
only
have
one
more.
We
have
a
21st
meeting.
Can
we
get
it
done
and
together
for
them,
it's
possible
to
get
together
with
some
of
the
folks
in
the
in
the
room
and
mr
pachardo
to
to
move
forward?
That's
being
optimistic
and
ambitious,
because
it's
a
lot,
but
that's
how
we're
going
to
proceed.
We've
got
to
make
the
edits
the
amendments
and
and
move
forward.
L
And
I
just
want
to
respond
to
the
councilman
anani
that
one
of
the
things
that
came
up
mark
mentioned
that
we
didn't
hit
everything
that
he
thought
we
needed
in
this
in
you
know
that's
outlined
in
the
cprb
letter
that
just
came.
We
got
a
couple
of
days
ago,
so
parts
of
that
letter
are
not
in
local
law
j.
We
want
to
get
them
in
there.
So
it's
not
that
we're
trying
to
delay
it.
L
It's
that
we're
trying
to
get
the
changes
that
have
been
requested
from
the
community
in
there-
and
all
I
was
saying
is
that
if
there's
something
that
we
missed
because
mark
talked
about,
you
know
he's
been
dealing
with
the
problems
here,
for
you
know
almost
20
years
now,
there's
things
that
he
sees
that
maybe
we
we
should
have
also
that's
all
I
was
saying
I
mean
it
doesn't
have
to
wait
for
that,
but
you
know
be
nice
to
get
everything
in
there.
That
will
really
help
the
citizens
and
the
people
who.
B
Live
in
albany.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
thank
you
for
that
now
I
will
say:
there's
portions
of
the
latest
recommendations
that
there
could.
I
mean
there
are
considerations.
We
can
go
ahead
and
do
this,
but
then
there's
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
that
has
to
be
dealt
with
in
response
I
mean
the
police
union
could
just
say
no
and
not
agree
to
it.
So
it's
it's
not
as
simple
as
as
we're
laying
it
out
here,
but
again
we're
going
to
move
forward.
Mr
inani.
S
Oh,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
the
council
members
remarks.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
think
I
was
just
looking
at
the
chat
box
where
mark
mitchell
said
that
I
agree
with
councilman
wu
suannani.
This
should
move
forward.
I
do
not
hold
any
special
knowledge.
The
cprv
proposals
are
worth
adopting
now
and
I
agree.
Let's
do
it
now.
B
N
I
just
want
to
say
something
uh-huh,
because
I
I
don't
want
us
to
leave
here,
people
thinking
that
what
we're
stalling
on
this
I
mean,
I
think
we're
trying
to
do
this
correctly.
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
input.
That's
been
brought
in
since
we
had
that
conversation
in
june
that
if
we
would
have
passed
this
in
august,
we
wouldn't
even
be
talking
about
some
of
the
reforms
that
were
proposed
in
december.
N
Then
I
take
it
back
to
the
right
and
center
and
they
rip
it
apart
again
and
I'd
go
back
and
fix
it
before
I
handed
it
in
because
once
you
hand
it
in
it's
a
lot
harder
to
to
go
back
and
make
any
corrections.
So
I
I
know
people
are
frustrated
that
the
fact
that
it's
it
we're
kind
of
at
the
finish
line,
and
it
it's
taken
long
and
some
would
like.
N
N
I
don't
want
to
leave
this
meeting
people
feeling
that
oh
well,
it's
just
being
pushed
back,
no
we're
we're
trying
to
get
another
vote,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we
do
it
right.
We
also
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
sustainable
and
that
it
can
hold
through
the
times
and
not
just
something
that
we
hand
in
and
rush
just
to
be
able
to
say
we
did
it
because
we
can
just
say
we
did
it,
but
if
it's
not
sustainable
and
actually
make
some
positive
changes,
we're
doing
the
same
thing.
N
B
E
Yeah,
so
I
you
know,
first
of
all,
I
I
tried
to
go
through
this
meeting
without
saying
anything
right,
because
I
think
that
the
community
did
a
good
job
of
speaking
up
and
making
their
points
heard
loud
and
clear.
But
I
feel
that
I
have
to
say
that
we
can't
act
like
we
are
rushing
through
something
when
this
pretty
much
sat
around
for
months.
E
You
know
I've
been
on
both
sides
of
change,
and
I
just
think
that
it's
a
good
faith
for
us
to
address
this,
because
the
community
has
spoken
and
they
have
spoken
a
long
time
ago.
So
you
know
the
only
reason
why
we're
making
the
amendments
to
it
is
because
we
didn't
move
when
they
you
know
spoke
months
ago.
E
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
just
moving
on
to
closing,
but
I
would
say
where
we
are
now
versus
before
we're
at
more
comprehensive
reform
than
than
before,
but
we
can
go
back
and
forth
with
that.
So,
but
with
that
I'd
like
to
close
the
meeting,
I
got
a
motion
from
mr
well
actually
motion.
To
close,
I
mean
first
and
the
second
everyone
everyone
frozen
time
is
yep
motion.
Second,
does
that
mean
we
don't
want
to
close.