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A
C
All
right,
let's,
let's
get
started
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
the
Thursday
August
22nd
public
safety
meeting,
we're
gonna
get
started
on
I'll
get
started
on
behalf
of
the
chair.
Dorsey
clears
for
the
record
public
safety
members
here,
councilmember
Balor
and
council
member
I
go
and
myself
councilmember
Kimbrough.
D
C
Public
safety,
yeah
and
councilmember
pup
of
council
member
chowie
I'm
holy
all
right.
Other
council
members
here,
president
councilmember
Nani,
Robinson,
Johnson
love
and
our
legislative
aide,
Michelle
hundred
see
so
we're
here
today,
I'm
sorry,
president
protein
Richard
Conte,
whose
legislation
this
is
and
will
be
running
through
the
legislation
with
us
once
once
we
get
started
here
like
to
thank
chief
Hawkins
for
his
time
for
being
here
with
us
and
we're
here
to
discuss,
resolution
54,
72
19
are,
and
what
we'll
do
is
obvious
it
in
your
dorsal.
You
make
ten
minutes.
B
C
E
So
usually
we're
dealing
with
is
illegal
use
of
ATVs
and
dirt
bikes
on
public
streets,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
public
safety
concerns
and
issues
going
to
think
everybody
is
aware
of
that.
It's
an
issue,
that's
not
just
an
Albany
problem.
I
think
people
know
it's
a
regional
problem.
Other
states
are
dealing
this
issue,
it's
a
problem
around
the
country
and
it's
difficult
one
for
law
enforcement
to
really
address
because
the
nature
of
the
vehicles,
especially
in
urban
areas
where
you
want
to
avoid
high
speed,
chases,
etc.
E
So
what
my
proposal
is
is
not
meant
to
be
a
solution,
but
is
meant
to
be
another
option
or
a
tool
that
might
be
helpful,
I
think
from
a
law
enforcement
perspective
and
trying
to
address
the
issue
and
what
it
does.
It
takes.
There's
a
section
of
state
law
under
the
general
municipal
law
and
if
you
have
a
copy
of
the
resolution
with
the
sponsor
memo,
all
of
the
sponsor
memo
under
existing
law
does
have
the
text
of
the
state
law
section
91
of
the
general
municipal
law.
E
In
order
for
that
section
to
be
implemented
locally,
the
council
has
to
authorize
it
and
that's
the
purpose
of
the
resolution.
I
will
note
that
in
Prior
years
the
council
has
authorized
this
provision
of
law
as
it
relates
to
illegal
drug
use
and
sales,
and
also
with
regard
to
the
use
of
guys.
So
it's
not
something
that
has
been
in
Prior
councils
has
has
authorized
for
certain
areas.
E
The
the
resolution
I
don't
know
I
also
deal
on.
You
know
in
terms
of,
even
though
we
talk
about
felonies,
the
use
of
dirt
bikes
and
ATVs
on
public
streets,
which
are
unlicensed
vehicles,
I
mean
that
really
falls
into
the
misdemeanor
category.
So
we're
really
not
talking
about
felonies
unless
an
accident
occurs
where
you're
actually
physically
and
you
know
harming
someone
or
even
if
it
you
know
it's
loss
of
life
or
something
like
that,
but
basically
what
we're
dealing
with.
E
Obviously
the
you
know:
vehicle
and
traffic
law
violation
related
to
the
use
of
an
unlicensed
vehicle
on
public
streets,
which
I
think
would
be
equates
to
a
misdemeanor.
So
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
and
the
chief
can
talk
about
some
of
the
ways
that
the
department
is
right
now
trying
to
deal
with
the
situation.
Also
I
think,
and
you
know,
communications
or
discussion,
because
it's
not
just
involving
problems
but
I
know
that
you
know
that
discussions
with
other
departments
locally,
because
other
cities
are
dealing
with
this
as
well.
E
So
the
resolution
itself
is
the
the
authorization
under
that
section
of
the
general
is
for
us,
an
authorization
to
the
chief
of
police
to
establish
a
program
within
the
parameters
of
what
general
municipal
law
allows
and
then
to
you
know
basically
provide
that
to
the
council.
Other
cities
have
used
this
Washington
DC
is
one
that
comes
up.
A
lot
does
have
a
pro
similar
program
where
they
offer
a
reward
of
up
to
$250.
E
The
program
that
we
do
do
not
have
to
be
up
to
a
thousand
or
25,000
I
know
that's
a
discretion
of
the
chief
in
terms
of
how
he
would
like
to
approach
that.
But,
as
I
say,
it's
just
a
it's
another
tool,
that's
what
it's
meant
to
be
to
try
to
get
information.
All
that
might
be
useful
in
terms
of
dealing
with
this
situation
and
it's
an
authorization
to
achieve
to
develop
a
program.
I
think
that
really,
basically
a
summary
summary
what
it
does
to
questions.
Or
maybe
you
want
to
hear
what
department's
doing
right.
C
D
E
Nothing
with
getting
insurance
and
that's
the
definition
because
they're,
not
it's
not
I'm,
registered
but
they're,
not
they're,
not
vehicles
that
can
be
licensed,
so
they're
not
subject
to
being
licensed
for
use
on
public
streets.
So
they
are
basically
unlicensed
vehicles
that
are
meant
not
meant
for
use
on
public
streets
and
that
the
issues
I
don't
even
know
if
they
can
get
insurance
again.
E
C
F
F
You
know,
I
have
two
tech
detectives
who
who
meet
regularly
with
detectives
from
Schenectady
and
Troy
and
they're
sharing
information,
because
what
we're
seeing
in
with
the
intelligence
is
telling
us
is
that
these
these
riders
are
going
through
all
of
the
cities
in
this,
in
the
attract
in
the
Capital
Region
and
so
we're
seeing
the
same
ones,
and
so
we're
sharing
information
that
to
see
if
there's
some
links
between
some
of
the
things
that
we're
seeing
so
we're
already
doing
that
piece
of
it.
We're
we've
already
asked
the
public.
You
know
at
the
very
outset.
F
At
the
very
start
of
the
summer,
we
were
asking
the
public
to
help
us
identify
who
these
individuals
on
these
bikes
are
because
a
lot
of
times
some
sometimes
they
have
mass
they're.
You
know
covering
their
faces.
Sometimes
they
have
helmets;
sometimes
they
they
don't
have
any
of
that
those
things,
but
we
just
can't
identify
who
they
are
and
if
we
can
get
the
public's
help
to.
Let
us
to
give
us
an
idea
of
who
they
are.
It
can
help
us
to
track
down
some
of
these
folks.
You
know
a
lot
of
times.
F
It's
it's,
not
all
punitive.
You
know.
Sometimes
it's
just
a
matter
of
tracking
some
of
these
folks
down
to.
Let
them
know
that
you
know
these
activities
are
not
permissible
on
owner
on
our
roads
and
to
give
them
some
advice
on
where
they
can
go
and
with
it
where
they
can
legally
operate
these
things,
so
we've
been
asking
for
the
public's
help
all
summer
any
any
way
and
in
terms
of
tactics,
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
using
are
unmarked
cars
and
with
plainclothes
officers.
We've
had
some
limited
success
with
that
we've
impounded.
F
You
know.
Well,
over
a
half
dozen
of
these
unlicensed
vehicles,
we've
issued
citations
to
several
individuals
who
are
writing
these
those
vehicles.
So
we've
had
some
limits.
Success
with
that
and
the
reason
we
want
to
do.
That
is
because
it's
like
mr.
Conte
said:
I:
don't
want
my
officers
chasing
these
vehicles
through
our
city
streets.
It's
just
going
to
add
to
the
the
instability
of
our
role.
Just
is
it's
it's
already
dangerous.
F
If
our
televisions
of
southern
is
done
on
a
certain
date
and
time,
they're
gonna
be
in
a
certain
area,
four
or
five
pm,
and
we
can
get
some
either
fixed
aircraft
or
one
of
their
helicopters
to
help
us
to
follow
at
a
distance
to
see
where
they're
going
that's
a
tool
so
that
we
don't
have
to
actually
get
out
there
and
chase
these
these
riders.
Through
our
city,
we
we're
going
to
soon
have
drones,
we're
in
the
final
stages
of
acquiring
our
drones
within
the
next
two
to
three
weeks
or
so.
F
We'll
have
those
drones
are,
you
know
only
give
us
gives
us
some
limited
capabilities,
because
they
only
have
a
short
flight
time.
You
know
you
can
only
fly
for
you
know
25
or
30
minutes
time
and
then
they're
there.
You
know
they
can
only
go
so
fast,
and
you
know,
as
you
guys
know,
when
you
see
these
riders
in
our
city
they're
going
from
place
to
place
it
rightfully.
F
So
there
would
be
limited
application
for
drones,
but
they
may
be
able
to
help
us
out
as
well
and
then
we're
also
engaging
in
some
intelligence
that
I
can't
disclose
publicly
to
identify
who
the
individuals
are
where
these
vehicles
are
being
stored
and
we're
very,
very
optimistic.
In
fact,
we've
had
some
very,
very
good
success
in
identifying
some
of
these
these
folks
and
identify
where
these
vehicles
are
being
stored,
that
have
allowed
us
to
actually
go
in
impound
or
cite
some
of
the
individuals
who
are
doing
this.
F
So
to
me
you
know,
I
see
this
as
as
an
educational
thing.
You
know,
like
I,
said
it's
not
all
punitive.
These
aren't
all
bad
people
who
are
doing
this,
but
they're
doing
bad
things,
and
the
behavior
is
bad
in
the
sense
that
it's
endangering
people
in
our
community,
and
so
we
got
to
get
that
word
out.
You
know
through
education
through
if
we
could
find
out
who
they
are
in.
You
know.
F
Let
them
know
what
some
options
are
in
terms
of
doing
this
and,
if
necessary,
citations
and
impounding
the
vehicles,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
the
reward
system
that
mr.
Conte
is,
is
introducing
I
support
it
in
the
sense
that
it's
really
just
just
a
continuation
of
some
things
that
we've
already
been
doing
you've
already
been
asking
for
help
from
the
community.
We
already
have
Crimestoppers
so
if
they
wanted
to
use
that
that's
one
avenue
that
they
can
use
in.
C
G
H
G
Thank
you,
councilman
Conti,
for
introducing
the
legislation
and
providing
an
overview
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
questions
comments
from
Council
members
and
after
that
we
will
allow
the
public
the
opportunity
to
provide
comment
if
you
so
choose
to
so
with
that
said,
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
colleagues
who
are
members
of
the
public
safety
committee,
I'll
start
to
my
next
councilman
Michael.
Do
you
have
any
questions
or
comments?
First,.
A
Of
all
I'd
like
to
say
that
they
secured
the
hell
out
of
me,
no
I
I
was
waiting
at
the
point
on
Washington
and
central.
The
two
lanes
here
quad
can
right
between
us,
okay,
it
got
to
the
intersection
of
lark
and
what
everyone
called
their
Washington
took.
A
right-hand
turn
up
on
to
the
sidewalk
and
the
bus
had
just
left
people.
Often
I
said.
Oh,
my
god
am
I
gonna
see
when
they
come
up
there.
You
know
I've
just
another
night,
DJ
and
I
would
come
out
of
City
Hall.
A
Remember
that
night
and
we
heard
we're
talking
heaven
I
said
what
the
hell
is,
that
I
thought
the
helmet
guys
were
back
in
town
over.
You
know
it
was
really
and
they
are
all
over
and
I'm
real
concerned,
okay,
but
you
mentioned
something
about
options
that
they
might
have
you
saying
looking
further
piece
of
land
I,
don't
know
anything
that
could
be
available,
but
what
options
are
you
referring
to
and.
F
The
only
option
that
we
would
be
able
to
offer
would
be
for
them
to
do
some
research,
their
own
research,
to
find
out
where
there
are
places
they're,
obviously
outside
of
Albany,
because
you
don't
have
any
place
within
within
Albany,
but
are
there
some
places
outside
the
city
of
Albany,
where
they
can
actually
use
those
ATVs
legally
and
without
endangering
the
public?
So
we
so
we
would
so
pretty
much.
This
will
move
there.
A
B
Manual
that
they
were
inviting
I
didn't
chase
them
down,
it
was,
they
were
unjust.
On
inside
of
the
black
and
I
pulled
over
as
I
was
live
and
I
spoke
to
them
and
I
want
to
let
them
know
you
know
what
you're
doing
is
there?
You
go
you're,
not
wearing
helmets.
You
know,
most
guys
were
not
only
helmets,
you
you're
putting
your
own
life
at
risk
and
thuy.
If
there
was
an
option,
would
you
use
it?
B
B
My
first
question
is:
is
it
possible
for
us
to
publish
the
options
so
that
people
know
this
is
where
you
can
go?
If
you
want
to
do
this
safely
and
also
let
people
know
what
you
need
to
be.
If
you
want
to
do
the
safety,
what
equipment
you
need,
because
you
know
we
don't
want
anyone
to
have
motorcycles.
I
B
B
What's
the
proper
way
to
why
these
vehicles
and
get
that
information
out
to
people,
because
you
know
we
want
a
nuisance
to
stop
or
else
we
want
these
guys
to
be
safe,
I
mean
the
group
that
I
stopped
was
between
17
and
32.
You
know
that's
young
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
someone
have
brain
damage.
You
know
you
know
in
general.
B
F
Real
quick
and
so
constantly
I
would
caution
against
that,
but
it
I
can
see
that
exposing
the
city
bye-bye
yes
telling
or
publishing
to
them
in
recommending
where
they
should
go
to
ride
these.
These
are
vehicles
and
if,
by
chance,
something
were
to
happen
if
they
were,
if
there
were
to
be
some
sort
of
accident
or
anything
else,
and-
and
it
turns
out
that
this
was
a
place
that
was
recommended
by
the
police
department
or
by
the
city.
F
I
can
see
that
being
some
exposure
to
the
city,
so
I
would
be
more
comfortable,
letting
them
know
that
there
are
options
and
it
may
be
even
pointing
them
toward
where
they
can
find
the
options.
You
know,
if
there's
some
database,
that
shows
where
all
of
these
the
places
where
they
can
legally
ride
these,
these
vehicles
are
but
I
wouldn't
be
comfortable
with
actually
telling
them
or
recommending
to
them
a
specific
place
to
go.
Even
if
we
knew
where
that
place
was
I'd,
be
more
comfortable
with
them.
F
B
Some
of
these
guys
were
young,
and
you
know
young
people
do
stupid
things
and
I'm
not
justifying
stupid
things
they
do,
but
I
don't
want
him
to
have
lifetime
consequences
folded.
My
other
question
was:
how
has
the
information
chain
with
the
public
darling?
Have
you
got
a
lot
of
information
already
from
the
public?
A
lot
of
tips
about
word
deeds
of
cousins
all
happening
not.
F
G
F
C
C
But
my
my
fear
with
some
of
this
is
what
we're
talking
about,
providing
a
place
for
for
folks
to
go
to
ride
and
do
this
some
some
other
riders,
someone
who
might
know
the
thrill
comes
from
being
out
industry.
It
all
comes
from
it
comes
from
being
a
part
of
it.
So
I,
don't
know
you
know
what
percentage
of
in
a
group
that
would
that
that
would
you
know
work
for
herself
I
do
support
this
again.
C
D
D
Because
of
this,
so
I
guess
my
one
comment
mean
I'm.
Supportive
of
this
legislation,
I
was
wondering
I,
wasn't
even
educated
that
we
educate
is
there
any
way
we
could
work
with
the
school
system
also
to
come
up
with,
maybe
YouTube
video.
Whatever
show
on
what
could
happen?
We,
you
know
this
type
of
behavior
is
taking
place
or
you've
even
had
is
something
that
needs
to
be
taught
when
I
took
driver's
ed
basic
it
accidents
and
stuff.
It
really
is
a
young
person
infected
in
fact
me
and
made
me
to
slow
down
from
seeing
them.
D
B
G
Right
so
we'll
segue
to
our
general
members
before
dawn
so
I
I'm
listening
to
the
conversation
and
for
those
of
us
who
grew
up
in
inner
cities.
This
is
a
part
of
the
culture
summer
that
gets
warm
cookout,
kids
outside
and
people
riding
dirt
bikes
I
mean
it
is
a
part
of
the
culture
and
so
I
guess
as
I'm
hearing
it
and
I
know
it's
a
concern.
I
know:
there's
safety
concerns
for
the
people
riding
the
bus,
but
also
for
the
people,
the
pedestrians
who
have
to
engage
with
those
right
in
the
fight.
K
F
K
K
F
The
drones
that
have
many
applications
we're
gonna,
have
applications.
You
know
technical
applications,
no
authority
for
our
tactical
officers
are
out
at
static
at
a
scene,
and
we
need
to
get
a
visual
of
a
place
where
it
won't
be
safe
to
have
officers
there.
We
can
use
it
for
that
search
and
rescue
we
used
I
think
was
about
a
month
and
a
half
ago
we
used
a
drone
from
the
Sheriff's
Department
that
helped
us
to
locate
a
missing
child,
and
that
was
that
was
in
some
wooded
area
traffic
reconstruction
during
the
major
accidents.
F
To
give
us
an
aerial
view
of
these
accidents
to
see
how
traffic
is
flowing
in
and
out
of
that
area,
so
that
if
we
have
to
divert
traffic
in
a
certain
area
from
these
accidents-
and
things
like
that,
so
we
have
and
then
for
something
like
this
potentially
as
well.
So
so
the
drones
that
have
many
applications
on
the
interior
drone.
You
know
if
we
have
a,
for
example,
a
hostage
situation,
and
it's
just
not.
F
You
know
safe
to
have
an
officer
or
officers
going
inside
if
we
can
covertly
get
some
kind
of
interior
view
of
that
place,
because
this
is
the
one
for
inside
it'd
be
much
smaller,
much
smaller
and
made
for
getting
into
some
of
these
crevices
and
converting
covertly
doing
that
it
can
give
us
some
eyes
inside
of
the
place
to
kind
of
help
us
if
we
have
to
make
some
sort
of
injury.
So
so
they
have
many
many
applications.
L
Without
this
topic,
yes,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
this
dedicated
space
being
at
the
O'brien
on
the
street,
like
that,
we
in
a
particular
area-
and
you
talked
before
what
a
liability
when
I
go
off
a
park
and
watching
the
guys
played
basketball
have
that
skateboard
park
over
there
and
it's
a
lot
of
liability.
As
you
know,
I'm,
assuming
that
the
city
is
liable
for
four
people
over
in
that
Park
and
we
figured
out
make
it
work.
So.
E
L
Alternative
suggestions
in
earlier
conversations,
which
we
hear
clearly
is
that
the
city
doesn't
want
to
live.
So
if
we
can
have
you
know
and
I'm
just
saying
that
the
we
are
trying
to
have
a
realistic
approach,
because
I'll
say
this:
since
we've
been
talking,
I
seen
less
and
less
the
cop
trying
proof.
L
So
you
know
the
things
you
know
that
you
happen
to
has
had
an
effect
and
even
in
the
communication
of
the
people
that
I
know
you
know
they're
aware
of
you
know:
people
are
paying
attention
to
mm-hmm
and
you
know
most
people
that
recognize
that
people
were
taking
attention
paying
attention
to
them.
They
either
do
something
about
it.
You
know,
and
you're
gonna
have
people
that
just
don't
care
and
I
think
that
from
what
I
think.
L
This
is
a
issue
that
we
only
deal
with
for
a
certain
part
for
a
year,
because
the
temperature
people
don't
ride
bikes
around
so,
and
my
reluctance
for
this
approach
is
because
it's
putting
citizen
against
citizen-
and
you
know
most
of
the
riders-
are
minority
people
and
most
of
the
people.
You
know
because
a
lot
of
people
as
councilman
said
earlier,
it's
the
culture.
You
know
like
I'm
fertile
tonight.
L
We
expect
to
hear
fireworks,
you
know,
do
we
like
it,
though
you
know,
but
it
doesn't
bother
us
to
the
point
where
you
know
we
complain
about
it
as
others
made,
so
you
kind
of
get
the
feeling.
You
know
that
it
comes
with
the
territory.
Now
this
dangerous
site,
you
know
super
dangerous
and
it's
against
the
law.
So
how
do
we
have
that
conversation
with
a
group
and
establish
and
understand
and
be
they're
gonna,
respect
and
sing
and
expected
them
to
go
out
to
Lima
Siddeley?
L
You
know
I
know,
personally,
that
you
know
some
real
Italians.
Don't
have
that
opportunity
to
put
their
mic
on
that
truck
and
and
make
it
out
there.
So
you
know
coming
up
with
a
solution
that
would
be
a
solution.
You
know
people
want
to
ride
and
you
know
parents
buy
kids
by
three
year
old
four
year
old.
You
know,
there's
people
riding
those
little
motorized
bikes,
so
some
people
just
never
get
out
of
that
and
how
do
we
effectively
communicate
with
them
and
not
put
them?
L
You
know
like
a
valley
over
their
head
because
of
some
people,
unfortunately
they're
going
to
be
in
their
cars
chasing
after
those
colors,
and
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know
I
just
don't
see
some
100%
good
and
our
have
reservations
about
support
in
this
this
effort
and
I
love.
You
know
the
other
things
that
you're
talking
about
because
I
hear
about
you
know
they
see
the
detective
in.
H
L
F
To
respond,
you
know
Thank
You
councilman,
just
to
clear
up,
you
know,
I'm
not
fundamentally
opposed
to
having
someplace.
You
know
for
these
riders
stick
to
go.
Yeah
I.
Just
think
that,
that's
you
know
it's
a
city's
decision.
You
know
with
the
city,
you
know
with
the
core
council
to
decide
what
type
of
appetite
the
city
has
with
certain
types
of
liability
before,
but
you
know
that's
what
the
city
decides.
F
I
mean
you
know
I,
you
know
I'm
not
opposed
to
it,
so
it
I
can
I
agree
with
with
you
and
with
the
chair
that
education
with
this
is
it's
credible.
So
if
something
like
this
were
to
happen,
you
know
I,
think
a
critical
piece
of
this
and
very
very
important
part
of
it
is
we
have
to
get
the
educational
piece
out
like
I
said
in
my
opening
comments,
you
know
these.
F
F
So
it
was
a
reference
of
referral
from
you
nanos.
Well,
we
met
with
with
them
and
I
mean
you
know.
These
aren't
bad
people.
You
know
I
mean
these
are
they're
out
there
they're
doing
some
things,
but
but
they're
engaging
in
some
behaviors
that
are
engaged
in
the
community.
Obviously,
and
so
we've
got
to
address
it
so
and
so
I'm
not
so
it's
not
about
being
punitive.
It's
about
I
think
we
need
to
educate.
M
The
approach
that
you
haven't
been
taken
so
far
with
the
unmarked
vehicle
you
know,
gathering
intelligence,
I
live
in
one
of
the
communities
impacted
the
most
by
ATV
usage
and
I've,
seen
a
decrease
in
it
in
my
neighborhood
and
so,
and
you
know,
you're,
taking
further
efforts
to
mitigate
the
issue
by
the
use
of
drones.
So
you
are
taking
proactive
approaches
to
stopping
this
issue
and
the
question:
where
are
the
hot
spots,
we're
always
finding
where
the
hot
spots
in
city,
where
we.
F
M
M
M
M
H
F
F
You
know
so
we're
not
getting
into
this
to
have
some
sort
of
physical,
altercation
or
or
anything
like
that
with
the
folks
who
are
riding
and
and
if
it
gets
to
a
point
where
they
believe
that
it
made
escalate
to
something
like
that,
then
they're
being
taught
and
directed
to
disengage
and
to
find
some
other
way
of
addressing
the
issue.
So
I'm
not
I'm,
not
terribly
concerned
about.
You
know
some
negative
interactions
in
that
respect,
but
you're
right.
F
If
they,
if
they
do
find
out
where
they
are,
then
it
gives
us
another
tool
to
either
engage
in
some
educational
component
to
it.
To
let
the
folks
know
that
you
know
a
riding
these
things
on
the
roadway
are
illegal.
There.
It's
unsafe
here's
some
potential
outlets
that
you
can
that
you
can
research
to
figure
out
where
some
way
where
you
can
go
to
do
this
safely
and
again
as
a
last
resort,
then
we
can
issue
citations
or
impound
the
vehicle
ketchup.
M
Yeah,
and
so
my
thing
is,
you
know,
I
know
that
you've
taught
your
officers,
your
teacher,
all
the
strategies
are
regarded
of
these
interactions,
but
there
is
still
a
distrust
with
in
some
of
these
communities
with
his
law
enforcement,
so
sometimes
those
strategies
when
there's
a
trust
barrier
there.
Those
strategies,
don't
work
and
so
I
think
you
know
councilman
Johnson
is
you
know
finding
in
a
safe
area,
for
these
riders
to
go
to
is
a
is
it's
an
approach,
but
I
would
want
to
take
the
less
punitive
method
in
addressing
okay.
N
M
J
F
J
J
H
J
Deals
with
ATVs
is
usually
a
harm
to
the
individual
variety,
not
typically
done
to
the
public,
and
most
of
the
ATVs
have
been
what
around
the
city
is
usually
injuries
to
the
public,
not
the
actual
person
who's
right
on
the
ATVs,
so
yeah
I
also,
you
know
I
one
of
the
things
I
appreciate
about
this.
A
I
love
the
city,
I
care
about
this
city,
I
want
to
see
the
city
grow
and
when
you
hear
instance,
reports
every
individual,
try,
the
ATVs
or
sidewalks
I
said
it
a
wrong
message.
J
If
law
enforcement
don't
have
the
tools
to
eradicate
this
problem,
so
again,
you
know
Kelly
said
this
is
just
another
tool
for
law
enforcement
to
do
a
job.
We
in
the
21st
century,
I
support
law
enforcement,
I'm
using
all
different
types
of
technology
to
eradicate
this
type
of
behavior
or
just
clown
with
a
forward.
So
I
support
this
another
great
way
to
come
to
the
full
council.
A
Comments
just
one
comment:
I
think
they
are
throughout
the
city:
they're,
going
all
the
way,
appoint
whole
road
to
moscato,
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
out
left,
but
it
might
be
an
ideal
spot
them
because
there
are
woods
out
past
a
golf
course
I'm
afraid.
The
golf
course
can
you
know
roll
it
over
by
these
salt
rains.
They
could
get
a
lot
of
damage,
but
Derek.
You
know
what
they
are
in
it
for
the
thrill.
A
A
These
bikes
are
all
out
on
the
highway
and
there's
not
much
help
that
way
and
I
know
we
don't
have
a
whole
I
think
now
either,
but
you
know,
but
they
are
all
over
and
it's
kind
of
scary
when
they
seen
in
dirtbikes,
was
not
as
stable
as
a
a
good
chapter
or
something
you
know
what
I
mean,
but
there
there's,
but
especially
on
weekends.
So.
E
So
I
talk
about
my
own
experience
with
dirt
bikes,
which
happened
up
on
Central
Avenue
across
from
Hannaford
Plaza,
as
I
was
going
up
that
way,
I
heard
them
coming
up,
so
this
noise
and
I
looked
when
they
were
coming
up
around
me.
One
went
to
my
left
into
the
turn
lane
another
one
around
and
up
on
the
sidewalk,
where
there's
also
a
bus,
shelter
there
and
went
up
around
the
side
and
I
think
it
was
somebody
that
sheltered
also.
E
E
A
L
E
A
E
Other
part
I
can't
weather,
so
we're
going
back
again.
To
this
again
is
it's
a
tool.
It's
not
men
preclude
any
other
options
that
might
be
out
there.
So
it's
just
another
method
to
try
to
get
some
information
that
might
be
helpful.
It's
not
meant
to
preclude
any
other
option
or
approach
that
can
be
employed
as
well
so
and
also
to
some
extent
it
could
be
an
educational
tool
because
it
has.
E
B
You
know
that
that's
an
option,
that's
actually
to
me
a
great
action,
because
it
deals
with
the
behavior
that
what
we're
trying
to
change
we're
trying
to
change
the
behavior
of
these
individuals,
of
what
they're
doing
of
the
risks
that
wouldn't
to
public
what
the
lists
are
doing
to
themselves
as
well,
because
one
thing
when
I
stopped
a
group,
one
me
guys
was
someone
I
knew
yeah.
You.
H
B
Don't
want
to
see
these
guys
get
hurt.
I,
don't
want
to
see
these
guys
get
arrested
either,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
them
get
hurt
so
I
like
that
option.
If
that's
one
of
the
options
that
please
palm
decides
to
take,
it
is
to
knock
at
the
door
say:
hey
use,
information,
your
safety
tips
is
the
law
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
you
to
stop
the
action.
Do
you
think
the
goal
for
me
is
to
stop
to
behavior
and
not
that
not
get
these
young
people?
B
G
An
object
teeth
because
I
think
from
your
remarks,
I
didn't
hear
that
if
someone
tipped
off
the
department
that
there
was
a
bike
and
someone's
you're
on
their
property,
that
you
all
would
intervene
and
provide
education,
I
heard
that
you
all
would
intervene
by
watching,
observing
and
then.
In
the
event
the
person
got
on
the
bike.
There
would
be
some
level
of
encounter
once
the
bike
stopped.
Is
that
accurate,
accurate
that
you
all
would
intervene
once
the
person
was
using
the
bike
or
to
what
I
thought.
F
F
So
most
most
of
our
actions
right
now
have
been
enforcement
actions
that
you
either
citations
or
the
impounding
of
the
vehicles.
However,
I
like
the
approach
of
using
of
implementing
and
having
the
educational
component
being
more
of
a
tool
for
us
as
we
move
forward,
and
so
my
direction
with
my
officers
going
forward.
Instead,
still,
they
have
discretion
if
they
see
some
some
of
these
acts
out
there
and
they
decide
that
an
impounding
of
the
vehicle
or
a
citation
is
appropriate
and
they
still
retain
that
discretion.
F
However,
I'm
going
to
to
to
give
direction
and
to
give
some
some
advice
and
encouragement
to
my
officers
that
enforcement
and
citations
are
not
always
the
best
course
and
that
there
are
some
other
things
that
we
can
do
in
order
to
gain
compliance,
such
as
what
the
councilman
here
is
suggesting.
You
know
you
know,
given
some
safety
tips
and
other
advice
on
how
to
avoid
being
in
that
situation.
Thank.
G
D
F
Absolutely
and
usually
when
that
happens,
you
know
we're
getting
in
touch
with
parents
and
in
advising
parents
right
away
about
what
happened.
You
know
finding
out
who
owns
the
vehicle
that
this
14
or
15
year
old
is
writing
and
wired
is
that
vehicle
in
that
person's
possession?
So
in
most
cases
with
the
younger
folks,
it
is
more
of
an
educational
component
to
it.
F
G
Can
I
just
say,
I
think
it's
a
race
component
here
and
I:
don't
always
want
to
make
things
about
black
and
white
place
and
race
things
to
always
on
the
table.
But
what
we
do
know
is
that
when
it
comes
to
black
and
boys,
they
are
tend
to
be
viewed.
Older
hits
the
track
record
with
incarcerated
younger
black
and
brown
boys
in
adult
prison,
so
to
the
point,
I
just
want
to
put
them
on
the
trail
that,
ideally,
if
someone
was
15
the
appropriate
to
Australian
strategy
with
the
education.
D
G
J
F
Well,
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I,
anecdotally,
I
could
probably
say
with
the
air,
but
I
don't
got.
If
you
want
a
definitive
answer
about
what
it
is
I,
you
know
the
data
is
there
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
just
taking
it
out
of
the
fine
and
out
who
was
the
demographics
of
those
who
have
been
issued
citations
or
had
the
vehicles
impounded.
J
J
A
J
H
H
J
J
It's
not
a
continent
educate
the
perpetrator,
I
think
some
type
of
action
needs
to
be
taken.
That
is
unacceptable,
especially
when
you
businesses
is
a
nuisance
to
the
businesses
is
a
nuisance
to
the
public
somebody's
business
individual
taking
video
they
share
it
into
it.
It
sheds
a
bad
light
on
the
city
of
Albany
and
I
believe
that
this
is
step
in
the
right
direction
and
as
much
as
we
want
to
give
the
law
enforcement
discretion,
I
do
want
to
send.
J
A
My
concern
is
because
fear
I
have
is
that
some
young
kid
eight
years
old,
coming
out
of
a
shop
or
something
there
on
that
bus
stop
on
everything
get
killed
and
then
this
whole
thing's
gonna
change.
The
whole
story
didn't
outlook
in
the
city,
and
you
know
well
and
I:
don't
wanna
wait
until
that
happens.
Did
you
know
I
don't
know?
And
then
you
mentioned,
you
saw
32
year
old,
riding
this
bike.
Well,
a
32
year
old,
he's
driving
with
license.
F
A
They
don't
yes
and
and
these
others
that
the
young
they
don't,
probably
maybe
they
have
a
license.
Maybe
they
don't
okay.
So
then,
when
you
get
a
citation
you
can't
go
to,
you
can't
go
to
traffic
or
if
you
don't
have
a
license,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
it
works.
You
know
amazing,
and
then
again
is
the
you
know,
educate
the
young,
but
some
of
these
people
are
just
in
it.
For
the
thrills
and
I
don't
know
I
just
you
know,
I
pray.
A
C
Entity
that
you
would
get
the
tip
these
public
finds
out.
Where
is
my
car
forward?
Not
that
you
go
storming
into
the
house
or
go?
You
know
they're
in
cause
a
confrontation.
I
would
like
the
things
you
do,
take
the
investigative
steps
and
go
through
a
process,
but
I
would
also
add
that
I'd
like
to
see
you
have
certain
not
that
you
get
the
pig
who
comes
to
arrest
you
nor
deal
with
when
it
comes
to
officers.
But
there
are
some
options
that
are
known
and
loved
by
this
community.
C
A
L
And
falling
off
that
most
of
those
people
who
are
Brian
or
luxury
of
that
experience
as
investment
in
their
education.
So
you
know
when
I
talked
about
alternative,
because
when
I
talked
to
them
and
I
stood
of
alternatives,
they
were
open
for
so
a
lot
of
people
ride
on
the
street,
because
there's
no
there's
no
other
place
for
the
dirac,
understand
I'm
I'm,
saying
so
by
asking
that's
the
spirit,
key
honey,
suggesting
a
dedicated
space
form,
because
even
most
of
times
that
people
have
the
chance
to
do
something
they're
going
to
do
with
the
right.
L
And
it's
not
that
no
one
hundred
percent
fit
for
this
because
there's
coming
from
many
different
angles.
But
that's
the
reason
why
I
made
reference
to
the
skateboard,
because
it
was
a
community
of
people
who
have
concerns
about
skateboarders
and
we've
been
in
the
city
and
that's
how
I
figured
it
out
and
you
go
up
there
and
it
works.
And
you
don't
I'm
pretty
sure
people
get
hurt
up
there.
L
F
I
don't
know
yet
because
we've
got
to
figure
out
who's,
going
to
manage
it
and
figure
out
what
it's
going
to
look
like
in
terms
of
how
the
rewards
are
gonna,
be
you
know
if
we
get
them,
you
know,
which
is
the
criteria
for
receiving
the
reward
money
and,
and
so
on.
I
haven't
haven't
assembled
a
team
to
even
address
that
piece
of
a
chip,
but
it
would
have
to
be
managed
by
somebody
within
the
police
department
and.
M
F
L
M
M
M
H
O
O
I'm
on
her
calling
29:10
102
208,
not
one
to
two,
it's
great.
Thank
you.
I'd
also
like
to
recognize
council
member
Robinson.
We
we
had
launched
me
a
couple
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
I
appreciate
you
reach
out
I
mean
especially
because
I'm,
not
your
constituent
history.
We
agree
for
the
discussants
over
email.
Again,
your
constituent,
but
I,
appreciate
you
everyone
this
time.
I
think
you
guys
have
all
hit
on
most
my
concerns
with
this
legislation.
First,
first
of
all,
I,
don't
believe
a
rewards
program.
O
A
monetary
rewards
program
is
the
correct
way
to
go
about
this,
even
if
it
is
just
one
part
of
popular
solution.
I
I
just
fear
people
falsely
calling
the
police
or
calling
police
on
legal
ATP
use,
or
something
like
that,
and
this
council
member
Robinson
said
we're
already
stretched
pretty
thin
with
the
force
as
it
is
on
another
issue,
I
had
which
a
couple
of
members
far
up,
including
mr.
Johnson,
was
if
a
TV
user
dirt
bike
uses
redirected
to
a
safe
space.
O
It's
completely
benign
activity
and
so
I
think
that
if
we're
going
to
point
for
ammonia,
the
problem,
we
should
create
safe
spaces
or
try
to
redirect
the
activity.
And
that
might
mean
telling
people
about
areas
of
colony
or
Guilderland,
because
there's
more
Park
space
and
more
green
space.
And
we
do
here
at
all
and.
O
O
Oh
just
all
that
to
say,
if
you,
if
someone
has
that
much
space
and
they
have
an
ATV,
they
can
use
it
on
their
own
property,
but
people
that
live
in
downtown
like
around
this
area.
They
almost
essentially
have
no
space
other
than
to
ride
on
the
streets,
and
some
people
are
yet
doing
it
just
for
the
thrill.
But
my
other
issue
is
even
if
we
create
a
safe
space
or
that
people
know
about
a
safe
space,
not
everyone
has
a
tow
truck
or
trailer.
O
So
how
are
they
going
to
get
them
to
meet
their
ATV
or
the
dirt
bike
to
that
area?
They
essentially
have
to
do
it
on
the
street,
so
I
would
I
was
just
in
conclusion
caution
that
if,
if
you
see
someone
on
ATV
or
dirt
bike,
that's
just
at
a
red
light,
you
stopped
that's,
obviously
someone
who's
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
and
get
to
a
safe
space
area,
but
if
someone's
cruising
down
the
wrong
side
of
the
street
going
the
wrong
way,
that's.
N
N
G
I
I
It's
it's
terrible
and
I
personally
wish
that
more
hard
handedness
would
be
getting
involved.
It's
very
dangerous.
The
rewards
program
is
a
nice
idea,
but
a
lot
of
people
probably
won't
call
up
because
they
don't
want
to.
You
know
it's
like
they're
like
a
gang.
You
know
they're
like
a
bicycle
gang.
If
they
find
out
that
you've
called
and
rat
it
out,
then
you're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
people
chasing.
You
can't
wait
down.
I've,
come
from
I've
had
luxury
I
come
from
a
family
that
partake
in
bike
racing,
but
you
have
to
register
them.
I
You
have
to,
you,
know,
have
insurance
for
them
and
I.
Doubt
I,
really
doubt
that
these
people
are
having
you
know.
They're
illegal
I
have
overheard
many
people,
saying
I,
love,
I'd
love
to
tell
who
they
are,
but
I'm
afraid
that
they're
gonna
chase
me
or
my
family,
okay,
I
personally,
I,
don't
know
what
I
don't
know
and
I
have
neighbors
I'd
actually
have
legal
bikes.
They
have
license
on
them,
they're
register,
they
have
two
literature
and
they
never
never
take
them
out.
I
They
take
them
and
they
put
them
on
their
vehicle
and
they
probably
go
drive
someplace
safe.
You
know,
but
this
what
I
wanted
to
say
this.
My
area
is
really
bad.
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
phone
up
around
my
area,
we've
we've
had.
Oh
just
on
the
way
here.
Okay,
you
said:
I
only
have
five
minutes
just
on
the
way.
Here
there
were
six
illegal
activities.
When
I
left,
my
house
got
on
the
bus,
came
down
and
I
actually
believed
they
knew.
I
J
I
G
I
L
I
See
people
take
snapping
snapshots.
Do
you
have
anything
initiating
where
people
can
just
send
in
their
tics
right
at
that
moment
that
they
catch
the
people
on
the
bikes?
You
can
you
can
have
a
lot?
You
know
you
could
you
could
create
a
lot
of
proof
that
those
bikes
look
there
at
that
time?
Popping
those
really
is
at
that
time
and
then,
when
people
do
phone
in
the
tips
on
where
the
bikes
are
headed,
you
have.