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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Legislative Offices - July 5, 2022
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Legislative Assembly of Alberta
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Good
morning,
everyone
I'd
like
to
call
this
meeting
to
order
the
meeting
of
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
in
attendance.
My
name
is
Joseph
scowl
I'm,
the
MLA
for
Carson
six
sikka
and
for
today,
I.
Am
the
chair
of
this
committee
I
like
to
ask
that
members
and
those
joining
in
the
committee
at
the
table
introduce
themselves
for
the
record
and
then
I'll
call
on
those
who
are
joining
us
remotely
so
beginning
to
my
right,
good.
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Thank
you.
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
we
have
a
number
of
substitutions.
Of
course,
as
mentioned
already,
I
am
substituting
for
The
Honorable
Mr
Brad
Rutherford.
Instead
of
Mr
Miller
honorable
Mr
Millikin,
we
have
honorable
Mrs
alard
as
acting
Deputy
chair
and
Mr
Roswell,
a
substitute,
the
Committee
Member.
We
also
have
Mr
Hunter
substituting
for
Ms
Rosen
and
Ms
Renault
substituting
for
Mr
Dak.
So
what
I
will
do
is
I'll
go
to
the
members
who
are
joining
us
remotely
and
call
upon
you
and
you
can
introduce
yourself
beginning
with
Mr
Roswell.
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Thank
you.
A
few
housekeeping
items
to
address
before
we
turn
to
the
business
at
hand.
Microphones
are
operated
by
Hansard
unless
we
move
in
camera
committee,
proceedings
are
being
live
streamed
on
the
internet
and
broadcast
on
Alberta
assembly
television
members
participating
remotely
should
ensure
they
are
prepared
to
speak
or
vote
when
called
upon
and
video
conference
participants
are
encouraged
to
have
their
cameras
on.
When
speaking,
please
set
your
cell
phones
and
other
devices
to
silent
for
the
duration
of
the
meeting.
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If
not,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
today's
meeting
agenda?
Mr
Smith
has
moved
that
the
July
5th
2022
meeting
agenda
of
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
be
approved
as
circulated
all
of
those
in
favor,
both
in
in
the
room
and
online.
Please
say
aye
all
right,
I
any
opposed.
Please
say
no
that
motion
is
carried
and
if
the
committee
will
allow
me
to
return
back
to
announcements
of
members
who
are
joining
us
remotely
I
do
see.
Mr
Hunter
is
now
joining
us
Mr
Hunter.
Could
you
please
introduce
yourself.
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In
accordance
with
this
legislation
on
May
25th,
the
Legislative
Assembly
agreed
that
government
motion
30,
which
ordered
that
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
is
an
all-party
committee
responsible
for
view
for
reviewing
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
existing
publication
ban
or
regulation.
Just
a
quick
history
lesson.
If
I
may,
when
the
government
proposed
this
publication
ban
regulation,
it
was
reviewed
pursuant
to
the
same
legislative
requirement
by
the
standing
committee
on
families
and
communities
in
2014.
B
number
two,
the
letter
from
the
ministry
of
children's
services.
Unlike
the
committee
in
2014
this
time
around,
we
are
considering
a
proposed
amendment
as
opposed
to
an
entirely
new
regulation
on
June
6th.
The
minister
of
children's
services
sent
a
letter
to
me
as
chair
of
this
committee,
providing
that
the
draft
Amendment
to
the
regulation.
Currently,
the
publication
ban
regulation
is
scheduled
to
expire
on
September
30th
2022.
The
proposed
amendment
would
move
the
expiry
date
to
September
30th
2027..
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C
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C
Like
it
MLA
Smith
to
move
that
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
confirm
that
it
has
considered
and
ports
in
accordance
with
section
one.
Three
one
point:
one
of
the
child:
Youth
and
Family
enhancement
act.
The
draft
publication,
ban,
Court
applications
and
orders
expiry
date.
Extension
Amendment
regulation,
as
set
out
in
the
letter
of
the
ministers,
a
minister
of
children's
services
to
the
chair
of
the
committee
dated
June
6
2022,.
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F
Mr
scale
I'm
disappointed
that
Mr
Smith
would
put
forward
this
motion
immediately.
It's
absolutely
no
discussion
of
any
kind
by
any
member
of
the
committee,
so
we
had
another
motion
on
the
record.
It
was
pretty
straightforward
simply
to
have
a
technical
briefing
from
Children's
Services
to
understand
more
about
the
situation,
this
particular
regulation-
it's
been
in
place
for
about
five
years
now.
This
is
a
fairly
serious
matter.
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F
Then
there
was
a
bill.
11
2014
change
that
to
require
that
a
family
member
or
in
certain
circumstances
the
department
could
apply
to
the
Provincial
Court
for
an
expedited
publication
ban
process.
Now
this
was
because
families
in
many
cases
wanted
to
be
able
to
speak
out
about
the
death
of
their
child,
but
we're
prevented
from
doing
so
because
there
was
an
automatic
ban
that
was
put
in
place,
so
this
change
was
made.
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Now
there
were
concerns
about
how
this
might
operate
and
the
impact
that
this
might
have
on
some
families,
and
so
at
that
time
there
was
work
done
by
the
committee.
Indeed,
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition,
which
brought
forward
an
amendment
that
could
not
come
into
Force
without
first
being
considered
by
the
committee.
So
that
committee
took
the
opportunity
to
hear
from
some
stakeholders.
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Now
there
were
some
stakeholders
who
raised
concerns
with
the
regulation,
but
at
that
time
the
government
members
at
that
time
simply
chose
to
vote
in
a
majority
to
slam
it
through.
There
was
no
consideration
of
the
concerns
that
were
raised.
There
was
no
further
depth,
sounds
a
little
bit
like
what
we
have
here
today.
Mr
chair.
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All
we
have
to
do
is
move
a
motion
to
hear
from
written
stakeholders
give
a
brief
period
of
time
where
our
suggestion
would
be
a
targeted
list,
not
even
talking
about
a
fully
open
public
process.
Take
a
look
at
the
folks
who
were
consulted
before
look
at
some
folks
who
are
involved
in
this.
Ask
them
to
make
a
submission
give
a
brief
period
for
that
to
come
in
one
more
meeting
where
we
have
a
technical
briefing,
have
an
opportunity
to
review
those
submissions
and
then
make
an
informed
decision.
Mr
chair.
F
Still
is
the
opportunity
for
that
Mr
chair
these
government,
the
government
member
that
put
forward
this
motion
could
certainly
vote
against
the
motion
he
put
forward.
Certainly
his
colleagues
could
choose
to
do
so
as
well
and
demonstrate
to
the
people
of
Alberta
that
they
are
actually
here
to
do
the
work
that
we
were
elected
here
to
do
and
to
give
this,
the
consideration
that
I
think
at
bare
minimum
is
due
for
something
of
this
significance.
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You
know
there
is
my
understanding,
a
review
of
the
child,
Youth
and
Family
enhancement
act
that
will
be
happening
soon.
Many
of
the
points
that
the
member
opposite
brought
forward
will
and
can
and
should
be
addressed
at
that
point
in
time.
They'll
be
considered
they'll,
be
reviewed
by
a
panel
with
more
expertise
than
in
this
committee,
and
I
think
that
this
is
pretty
much
a
housekeeping
issue,
that's
a
simple
extension
of
an
expiry
date
and
that
we
can
move
forward.
Thank
you.
B
D
I
would
agree
with
MLA
Smith,
while
I
I
sincerely
appreciate
the
comments
from
from
Member,
Shepard
and
I
understand,
where
he's
coming
from.
I.
Do
believe
that
in
this
case
that
review
of
the
child,
Youth
and
Family
enhancement
act
that
will
be
happening
soon
is
probably
where
that
work
will
be
done
and
I
would
argue,
maybe
where
that
work
should
be
done.
It'll
be
considered
during
that
review
by
a
panel
with
much
more
expertise
than
this
committee
has
and
just
delaying
the
process
could
possibly
jeopardize
the
safeguards
that
are
currently
in
place.
D
Moving
forward
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
that
either.
So
I'll
keep
my
comments
brief,
but
this
regulation
gives
parents
a
way
to
apply
for
a
publication
ban
when
a
child
is
deceased,
protecting
information
of
vulnerable
individuals
and
their
families
in
difficult
times,
and
only
if
it
is
wanted
and
proven
to
be
warranted.
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So
it's
intended
to
protect
the
privacy
of
deceased
children
and
they
deserve
that
and
I
don't
see
any
rationale
to
not
extend
this
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
simple
request
and
I
and
I
think
there
will
be
a
substantive
review
of
members
that
are
more
that
have
more
expertise
in
this
committee
and
that's
why
I
would
support
this
motion.
Thank
you.
Mr
chair.
F
I
recognize,
of
course,
that
there's
the
opportunity
to
involve
people
in
that
process
who
have
expertise,
there's
also
the
opportunity
for
us,
as
duly
elected
members,
to
do
the
work
we
have
been
elected
to
do,
which
is
to
consult
expertise,
consult
people
with
lived
experience
speak
to
those
and
make
decisions
based
on
that
information.
I,
don't
feel
that
as
a
member
of
the
opposition,
it's
my
role
to
or
I
would
indeed
I.
F
Think
it'd
be
an
abrogation
of
my
duty
to
Simply,
say
I
will
trust
that
to
the
minister
in
their
panel
to
suggest
that
in
any
way,
taking
a
brief
moment
to
actually
hear
from
some
folks
and
give
some
consideration
to
this
matter
before
we
simply
rubber
stamp
and
push
this
through
to
suggest
that
that
would
delay
the
process.
Well,
let's
be
clear.
Mr
chair
the
government
was
the
one
that
chose
to
wait
until
this
moment
until
well.
The
minister
chose
to
send
that
letter.
F
B
B
The
motion
that
moved
by
Mr
Smith
at
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
confirmed
that
it
has
considered
and
supports
in
accordance
with
section
131.1
of
the
child,
Youth
and
Family
enhancement
act.
The
draft
publication,
ban,
Court
applications
and
orders
expiry
date.
Extension
Amendment
regulation,
as
set
out
in
the
letter
of
the
minister
of
children's
services
to
the
chair
of
the
committee
dated
June
6th
of
this
year.
All
those
in
favor
of
this
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye,
all
right,
I,
any
opposed.
Please
say
no!
No!
No!
No,
in
my
opinion,
the
eyes
have
it.
B
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E
A
B
B
F
E
B
F
B
Thank
you
would
just
say
end
of
day
for
easy
purpose.
Instead
of
throwing
a
arbitrary
time
with
you,
okay,
any
other
business.
Before
we
move
on
to
item
agenda
agenda
item
number
five
see
none.
So
I
will
now
turn
the
time
over
to
Ms
Ellard,
to
provide
a
brief
report
on
the
audit
exit
for
the
office
of
the
auditor
general
honorable
member.
D
D
I'm
pleased
to
report
to
the
committee
that
on
June
24th
2022,
the
committee
Clerk
and
I
met
with
auditor
general
and
Senior
staff
from
his
office,
as
well
as
the
audit
team
from
Saint
Arnold
Pinson
St,
Stephen
I.
Think
I'm,
probably
saying
that
wrong
I
apologize,
Mr,
chair
I
am
pleased
to
advise
that,
as
in
previous
years,
the
2021-22
audit
was
completed
without
any
issues
identified.
I
would
also
remind
my
colleagues
that,
like
the
other
legislative
officers,
the
auditor
general
will
include
a
copy
of
the
final
audit
documents
for
his
office
in
his
annual
report.