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Legislative Assembly of Alberta
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13:13 Opening
33:37 Oral Question Period
1:26:17 Afternoon Session
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Foreign
Lord,
the
god
of
righteousness
and
Truth
Grant
to
our
King
and
to
his
government,
the
members
of
the
legislative
assembly
and
to
all
in
positions
of
responsibility,
the
guidance
of
your
spirit.
May
they
never
leave
the
province
wrongly,
to
love
a
power
desire
to
please
or
unworthy
ideas,
but
laying
aside
all
private
interests
and
Prejudice,
keep
in
mind
their
responsibility
to
seek
to
improve
the
condition
of
all.
Please
be
seated.
C
Speaker
I'm
happy
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
you,
I'm
honored,
to
stand
here
today
to
introduce
an
outstanding
former
MLA
to
the
assembly.
Through
you
seated
in
your
gallery,
Mr
Speaker
is
The
Honorable
Stockwell
day
Stockwell
served
as
the
MLA
of
what
I
believe
to
be
the
most
beautiful
constituency,
my
constituency
of
Red
Deer
North.
He
served
from
1986
until
2000..
During
that
time
he
served
as
the
minister
of
Labor,
the
minister
of
family
and
social
services
and
provincial
Treasurer.
He
later
moved
on
to
a
successful
career
in
federal
politics.
C
C
B
Please
it
seems
to
me
perhaps
I
should
have
asked
the
minister
to
do
the
introduction,
because
I'm
pleased
to
invite
to
the
assembly
and
welcome
back
The
Honorable,
the
former
member
for
Calgary
southeast
The
Honorable
Rick
Fraser,
the
former
member
for
Innisfail
Sylvan,
Lake,
The,
Honorable,
Luke
Willette
and
the
former
member
for
Calgary
elbow
and
the
leader
of
the
fourth
party
Mr
Greg
Clark.
Please.
D
B
F
Well,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
and
I
would
like
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
through
you,
the
president
Beverly
Allard.
Vice
president
Aretha
greetrix
and
board
member
Richard
leesque
from
the
indigenous
Congress
of
Alberta,
the
indigenous
Congress
Alberta
aims
to
serve
indigenous
people
from
across
Alberta,
who
do
not
feel
actively
acknowledged
by
any
other
representative
body
and
over
the
past
two
years
has
supported
over
a
hundred
thousand
indigenous
individuals
with
covert
related
support.
Let's
ensure
that
you
see
the
warm
welcome
of
the
assembly.
G
Well,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
a
pleasure
to
rise
and
introduce
to
you
and
to
you
to
all
members
of
the
assembly.
The
amazing
staff
of
the
Edmonton
Decor
constituency
office
joining
us
today
in
the
gallery
are
office
manager,
irshad,
Khan,
caseworker,
David
mandruziak
and
first-year
Social
Work
student
out
of
Grant
McEwen
mahat
Abdi
Gentlemen,
please
rise
and
receive
the
traditional
warm
welcome
news.
B
H
I
Who's
to
you
and
through
you
into
the
entire
assembly,
two
of
my
great
friends
from
Cyprus
medicine
had
first,
we
have
Garrett
one
of
the
hardest
workers.
I
know
on
one
of
the
best
directional
Drillers
in
all
of
Alberta
and
his
wife
Mandy
a
realtor
and
a
very
hard
worker,
a
great
volunteer
for
conservative
caucuses,
Mandy
and
Garrett
Campbell.
Could
you
please
stand
and
accept
the
warm
welcome
of
the
assembly.
J
Mr
Speaker
I'm
very
happy
to
introduce
to
you
and
through
you,
councilor
Stuart
Houston
Mr
Houston
is
a
close
friend
a
former
mayor,
a
current
member
of
Spruce
Grove,
City,
Council
and
recipient
of
the
Queen's
Jubilee
medal.
I'm,
proud
to
say
that
our
Vibrant
Community
is
a
better
place
because
of
the
hard
work
he
has
contributed
over
Decades
of
Public
Service
counselor
Houston,
please
rise
and
receive
the
warm
welcome
of
the
assembly.
K
Speaker
over
the
next
decade,
a
hundred
thousand
albertans
will
finish
high
school
and
start
looking
to
the
Future.
This
will
be
the
largest
group
in
history.
We
need
to
give
these
young
albertans
our
Future
Leaders
real
opportunities
right
here
at
home,
or
they
will
leave
at
the
same
time,
Calgary's
downtown
has
been
forced
to
contend
with
office
vacancy
rates
not
seen
in
decades.
Overcoming
these
challenges
will
be
critical
to
building
a
resilient
economy,
but
there
is
a
solution.
Alberta's
NDP
has
committed
to
establishing
a
new
downtown
Calgary
post-secondary
campus.
K
We
propose
a
downtown
campus
as
part
of
our
Alberta's
future
project
and
the
response
has
been
overwhelmingly
positive.
Calgary
economic
development
in
the
Calgary
Chamber
of
Commerce
recently
released
reports
supporting
a
new
campus
and
the
City
of
Calgary
has
already
committed
to
contributing
9
million
dollars.
Research
indicates
downtown
campuses
support
the
creation
of
more
startups
the
development
of
more
inventions
and
more
licensing
deals
we're
already
starting
from
a
position
of
strength
because
of
our
world-class
institutions.
The
University
of
Calgary,
for
example,
is
the
top
startup
Creator
amongst
research
institutions.
In
Canada.
K
Today
we
sent
a
letter
to
post-secondary
presidents
requesting
a
proposal
for
this
exciting
new
campus.
We
can
convert
empty
office
space
into
housing
and
other
usable
spaces.
This
new
campus
can
be
a
place
where
albertans
can
live,
work
and
learn.
We
know
post-secondary
education
is
an
economic
driver.
That's
why
we
will
move
quickly
to
undo
the
damage
caused
by
the
UCP
to
post-secondaries
cuts
that
total
nearly
700
million
dollars.
We
will
have
a
real
plan
to
keep
education
affordable.
We
will
increase
access,
we
will
be
willing
partners
with
post-secondary.
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You
Mr
Speaker
addiction,
homelessness
and
public
safety
issues
are
impacting
every
community
in
Alberta,
including
in
our
province's
Capital.
These
are
serious
issues
which
are
disrupting
the
lives
of
albertans
and
they
are
so
often
interconnected.
That
is
why,
over
the
past
three
and
a
half
years,
Alberta's
government
has
taken
significant
steps
to
address
these
top
of
Mind
societal
issues
from
eliminating
user
fees
for
publicly
funded
addiction
treatment
to
announcing
187
million
dollars
to
address
addiction
and
homelessness
in
Alberta's
two
largest
cities.
This
government
has
taken
action
and
there
is
still
more
work
to
be
done.
L
That
is
why
I
am
pleased
that
the
Ministers
of
mental
health
and
addiction,
Public
Safety
and
emergency
preparedness,
seniors,
community
and
social
services
and
Municipal
Affairs
have
come
together
to
form
the
public
safety
and
community
response
task
force.
This
task
force
will
be
responsible
for
rolling
out
the
initiatives
funded
by
that
187
million
dollars.
Their
efforts
will
include
further
increasing
addiction,
treatment
capacity,
providing
addiction
and
mental
health
treatment
in
correctional
centers,
creating
hybrid
help
and
police
hubs.
L
Expanding
medical
detox,
Services
deploying
harm
reduction
and
Recovery
Outreach
teams,
piloting
a
service,
Hub
model
to
increase
access
to
recovery
and
improving
access
to
affordable
housing
options
that
support
recovery,
Mr
Speaker.
Our
government
has
made
addictions
treatment
and
prevention
a
top
priority,
and
this
is
one
more
step
in
that
direction.
L
Albertans
can
be
assured
that
our
government
is
taking
a
fair
and
compassionate
approach
in
addressing
the
addiction,
homelessness
and
public
safety
issues
that
our
communities
are
facing,
because
every
Alberta
deserves
the
opportunity
to
pursue
recovery
and
should
be
supported
in
that
Pursuit
and
every
albertan
deserves
to
feel
safe
as
they
commute
to
and
from
from
work.
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
M
Dara
is
to
honor
a
truly
remarkable
albertan,
William
Robert
neufeld,
known
to
most
as
Bob,
was
born
on
September
12
1929
and
passed
away
on
December
2nd
at
the
age
of
93..
A
lifelong
resident
of
Grand
Prairie
Bob
was
a
Visionary
community-minded
leader
and
an
inspiration
to
anyone
having
the
fortune
to
know
him.
I
first
met
Bob
and
his
wife
June
in
the
fall
of
1997..
Sorry
25
years
of
friendship
later
in
my
family
is
grateful
for
these.
Dear
friends,
who
became
family
serving
as
adopted
grandparents
to
our
three
children.
M
Bob
was
like
a
second
father
to
my
husband.
He
was
an
Innovative
teacher
and
Coach.
He
pioneered
the
Grand
Prairie
Composite
High
School
Outdoor
Ed
program
and
the
high
school
hockey
league
and
curriculum,
both
of
which
were
subsequently
adopted,
province-wide
and
replicated
as
far
away
as
Australia.
M
He
was
a
trendsetter
and
a
Visionary,
bringing
passion
to
his
role
as
an
educator
in
shaping
programming
for
thousands
of
students
all
over
the
world.
I'm
gonna
get
it
together,
there's
so
much
to
share
about
Bob
that
I
could
fill
hours
here
are
some
highlights.
He
was
a
founding
member
of
the
Grand
Prairie
Storm
hockey
team.
He
was
the
founder
of
Camp
Wapiti
in
1963
and
for
the
past
59
years
and
counting
Camp
Wapiti
has
allowed
youth
to
learn
more
about
nature
of
the
outdoors
and
the
faith
that
guided
Bob
his
entire
life.
M
He
was
the
founder
at
night,
ski
hill
for
those
who
use
the
hill
Bob's
bump
training
areas
named
after
him.
He
was
the
founder
of
the
wild
caucus
Society
working
over
three
decades
to
gain
official
recognition
of
this
Nature
Reserve.
He
was
a
lifelong
member
of
McLaren
Baptist
Church,
not
many
can
say
they
were
a
member
of
anything
for
93
years
longest,
serving
ski
instructor
in
Canada
teaching
for
over
50
years.
M
M
N
Mr
Speaker
I
stand
in
this
house
every
day
to
represent
the
constituents
of
Remington
Meadows,
their
hopes,
their
ideas
and
their
concerns
as
we
work
to
build
a
better
future
for
all.
My
constituents
couldn't
be
more
clear
that
they
don't
support
the
job
killing
on
Democratic
sovereignty.
Act
in
my
riding
I
have
heard
from
business
owners
who
are
worried
about
the
economic
impacts.
This
government's
actions
are
having
on
their
livelihoods.
Covert
was
disastrous
for
businesses,
they
needed
sport,
but
this
government's
abandoned
them.
Now
the
government
is
asking
small
businesses
to
face
further
economic
uncertainty.
N
Just
so
the
premier
can
make
useless
power
graphs,
Mr
Speaker.
When
will
it
stop?
I've
also
heard
from
members
of
my
riding
who
are
immigrants.
They
have
faced
unfair
challenges
over
the
last
three
years,
losing
their
jobs
struggling
to
feed
their
families
and
worrying
about
whether
or
not
they
could
make
ends
meet
the
sovereignty.
Acts
gave
the
provincial
government
an
undemocratic
amount
of
power,
but
leaves
immigrants
in
this
province
to
face
chaos,
uncertainty
and
unpredictable
future
Mr
Speaker
over
20
people,
23
percent
of
albertans
population
are
immigrants.
They
are
fundamental
part
of
our
Province.
N
They
and
they
have
every
right
to
feel
confident
that
this
government
cares
about
them.
I
want
to
be
clear
that
an
NDP
government
will
care
about
them.
We
will
grow
immigration
and
give
people
better
access
to
credentialing.
We
will
support
small
businesses,
helping
them,
combat
the
rising
cost
of
inflation
and
shortage
of
skilled
workers
and
more,
and
we
will
repeal
the
job
killing
Sovereign
act,
move
immediately
to
restore
invested
certainty
and
to
build
an
economy
fell
with
good
paying
jobs.
I
can't
wait
to
make
all
of
this
a
reality.
O
O
Services
are
no
exception
and
the
British
government
has
prioritized
health
care
and
is
allocated
a
record
budget
of
23.59
billion
dollars
to
further
strengthen
the
Health
Care
System
Albert
has
the
best
Frontline
healthcare
workers
in
the
world,
and
we
will
work
to
have
the
right
supports
in
place
to
ensure
alibetans
get
the
care
they
need
when
and
where
they're
needed.
The
premier,
the
minister
of
health
and
AHS
official
administrator
Dr
John
Cowell,
has
announced
our
government's
plan
to
improve
EMS
response.
Time
decrease
emergency
weight
times.
O
A
reduced
wait
times
for
surgeries
since
the
pandemic,
Alberta
Health
has
been
running
at
over
capacity,
and
people
have
been
facing
long
wait
times
during
emergency
and
for
key
surgeries.
I
recognize
the
inconvenience
of
convenience
and
distress
this
has
caused
for
those
who
are
on
the
waiting
list
and
their
families.
That's
why
getting
back
on
the
track
has
been
top
priority.
We
want
to
offer
a
Health
Care
System
albertan
families
can
trust
and
depend
on
and
I'm
confident
in
the
initiatives
that
Alberta's
government
has
put
forth
to
address.
O
The
issue
I
want
to
share
an
important
news
on
emergency
wait
times.
Currently,
emergency
wait
times
at
Alberta.
Children
Hospital
is
2
hour,
19
minutes,
Peter,
lohit,
Center,
2
hours,
43
minutes
and
Rocky
View
General
Hospital,
two
hours
and
eight
minutes.
The
complete
information
for
emergency
wait
times
can
be
seen
at
AHS
website.
The
government
of
Alberta
is
accelerating
the
changes
and
improvements
necessary
at
once
again
if
it
efficiently
offer
consistent
quality,
careful
buttons
across
the
province.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker.
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
On
December
10.
Each
year
we
Mark
Human
Rights
Day
and
the
71st
anniversary
of
the
universal
Declaration
of
Human
Rights,
a
milestone
document
that
proclaimed
the
eleniable
rights,
which
everyone
is
inherently
entitled
to
as
a
human
being.
Today,
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
speak
about
the
human
rights
violations
happening
in
Iran
right
now,
a
22
year
old
Kurdish
woman
was
arrested
on
September
13
in
Tehran
by
Iran's
morality,
police
for
allegedly
wearing
a
hijab
in
an
improper
way.
P
Iranian
authorities
said
amini
had
stroke
had
a
stroke
while
in
custody.
She
died
in
a
hospital
on
September
16th
protest
which
erupted
in
many
parts
of
Iran
following
news
of
amini's
death
have
continued
daily
and
expanded
around
the
world,
even
as
Iranian
authorities
restricted
access
to
the
internet.
At
least
488
people
have
been
killed
since
demonstrations
began
in
mid-september
and
according
to
Human
Rights
activists
in
Iran,
and
over
over
18
200
people
have
been
detained
by
authorities.
Yesterday,
the
government
in
Iran
carried
out
the
second
execution.
P
Was
hanged
in
public
on
Monday
after
being
convicted
of
killing
two
members
of
security
forces
this
public,
this
public,
an
open
execution,
is
intended
to
terrify
the
people
of
Iran.
They
are
designed
to
stifle
opposition
more
than
before.
The
Iranian
people
need
us
to
hear
and
amplify
their
voices.
The
Alberta
Iranian
Community
has
hosted
many
demonstrations
here
in
Edmonton
and
Calgary
in
support
of
freedom
of
expression,
protection
for
human
rights
and
specifically
for
the
brave
women
of
Iran
who
are
leading
the
charge
and
risking
their
lives.
P
I
stand
in
this
house,
along
with
all
members
of
the
Alberta
NDP
caucus
to
call
on
the
Iranian
government
to
stop
this
repression
and
also
call
on
albertans
to
support
the
Iranian
people
in
denouncing
the
human
rights
violations
taking
place
in
Iran.
I
also
call
on
this
Premier,
her
cabinet
and
all
members
of
this
house
to
do
the
same
and
stand
in
solidarity
with
the
Iranian
community
and
the
many
Iranian
Canadians
that
now
call
Alberta
home.
Q
Mr
Speaker
during
holiday
season.
We
can
truly
see
the
extent
that
multiculturalism
has
enriched
the
lives
of
many
albertans
newcomers
from
all
over
the
world
of
many
backgrounds.
Ethnicities,
faiths,
cultures
and
languages
have
been
coming
to
Alberta,
with
the
hopes
of
fulfilling
their
dream.
Today,
in
addition
to
First
Nations,
metis
and
innate
peoples,
people
from
more
than
200
ethnic
groups
called
Alberta
home
and
celebrate
their
cultural
heritage
with
pride.
They
are
at
the
heart
of
our
success
as
a
by
Bread,
prosperous
and
Progressive
Province.
Q
The
diversity
of
albertans
is
a
fundamental
characteristic
of
our
heritage,
our
identity
and
is
important
for
everyone
who
lives
here,
whether
their
families
came
here
centuries
row
are
only
recent
in
the
past
few
years,
our
schools,
worships
workplaces
and
other
foundational
institutes
benefit
from
multiculturalism,
as
we
continue
to
build
a
more
inclusive
and
open
Province.
We
recognize
that
Multicultural
Society
is
a
work
in
progress.
We
must
continue
to
promote
the
values
of
respect,
inclusion
and
many
other
commitments
have
sought
to
promote
multiculturalism
along
with
Alberta's
front
multiculturalism
policies.
Q
We
must
recognize
that
rich
cultures
of
First,
Nations,
inute
and
Meaty
peoples-
it
may
require
us
to
confront
painful
truths
about
our
history
and
Society,
learn
from
them
and
take
meaningful
action
together
to
dress
those
issues
and
ensure
everyone
is
treated
with
respect
and
able
to
participate
equally
in
economic,
social,
cultural
and
political
life
in
Alberta,
Mr
Speaker
during
this
holiday
season.
Let's
celebrate
the
cultural
diversity
that
makes
us
who
we
are.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
today,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
chiefs
of
treaty
six.
We
spoke
about
their
concern
with
the
premier
sovereignty
act,
which
they
assert
will
impact
their
treaty
rights
here
in
Alberta.
The
Chiefs
reiterated
to
me
that
the
premier
passed
her
Flagship
bill
without
any
consultation
with
them,
something
that
contradicts
the
very
statements
that
Premier
has
made
in
this
house.
Will
the
premier
admit
today
that
she
failed
to
consult
with
any
of
the
currently
elected
Chiefs
of
treaty?
Six?
Will
she
correct
the
record
and
then
apologize
The.
S
Honorable,
the
premier
Mr
Mr
Speaker,
as
I've
said
many
times
before
when
we
drafted
the
Alberta
sovereignty
within
a
United,
Canada
Act.
The
very
first
principle
in
that
Act
was
to
respect
treaty
rights
and
land
claims
and
Aboriginal
rights,
as
defined
by
section
35
of
the
charter
of
rice
and
freedoms.
That
was
essential
in
the
discussion.
This
is
not
about
interfering
in
our
first
Nations
and
their
ability
to
be
self-governing.
This
is
about
us,
asserting,
Alberta's,
right
to
be
treated
fairly
and
equally
in
Confederation.
We
just
want
to
be
treated
the
same
way
as
Quebec.
R
Will
Mr
Speaker
respect
would
be
demonstrating
by
apologizing
for
failing
to
consult
now
another
one
of
their
concerns?
Is
the
premier's
new
power
to
direct
public
agencies,
everything
from
police
forces
to
municipalities
the
premier
also
mused,
about
withholding
grant
funding
from
organizations
that
don't
comply
with
their
political
agenda.
So
this
is
a
question
that
I'm
asking
on
behalf
of
treaty
six
grand
Chief,
George
R,
Khan
Jr.
Will
the
premier
pledge
to
never
withhold
provincial
funding
from
First
Nations
who
do
not
recognize
or
support
her
job-killing
sovereignty?
Act.
S
Terrible
the
premiere-
that's
an
easy
one.
Yes
I
I've
said
on
the
record
that
I
support
Jordan's
principle,
which
is
the
exact
opposite.
I
want
to
look
for
opportunities
so
that
we
can
partner
with
First
Nations
to
address
their
issues
on
reserve.
Part
of
the
agreement
that
we
signed
last
week
and
mou
was
to
support
our
first
Nations
and
mental
health
and
addiction
I'll,
be
meeting
with
the
with
the
treaty
six
Chiefs
tomorrow
to
talk
about
their
areas
of
concern.
S
Every
time
I
meet
with
Chiefs
and
I've
met
with
with
about
seven
or
eight
in
the
last
week.
They
identify
issues
that
are
causing
tension
and
concern
in
our
relationship
and
that's
what
I'm
going
to
work
with
them.
R
Well,
Mr
Speaker,
one
of
the
things.
That
is
an
issue
that
is
a
problem.
A
concern
for
Chiefs
is
the
fact
that
this
Premier
did
not
consult
with
them
prior
to
introducing
the
sovereignty
act
now.
Meanwhile,
while
the
Chiefs
all
acknowledge,
for
instance,
the
value
of
the
Alberta
indigenous
opportunities
corporation,
which
the
all
position
also
supports,
they
told
us
that
they
are
concerned
about
the
impact
of
this
act
on
their
ability
to
protect
their
air,
their
land
and
their
water
to
feed
their
elders
and
their
children.
R
S
Honorable,
the
premier,
once
again
the
answer
is
yes,
this
is
all
about
making
sure
that
Ottawa
stays
out
of
our
jurisdiction.
The
way
I've
described
it
to
the
Chiefs
that
I've
spoken
with
is
that
they
have
fought
a
battle
over
the
last
number
of
years
to
get
sovereignty
respected
into
and
to
extract
themselves
from
the
paternalistic
Indian
Act,
we
get
treated
the
exact
same
way
from
Ottawa.
They
interfere
in
our
jurisdiction
all
the
time
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
pushing
back
and
being
treated
exactly
like
Quebec
The.
R
Mr
Speaker
yesterday
the
premier
suggested
that,
after
just
three
weeks
with
Dr
Cowell
she's
hearing
Health
Care
is
now
quote
better
than
ever
so
much
so
that
Dr
quote.
Cowell
is
already
quote
moving
on
from
ER
and
ambulance
crises,
but
here's
what
that
actually
looks
like
ERS
overwhelmed
with
sick
children,
more
unfilled,
paramedic
shifts
more
nurses,
leaving
Frontline
care,
Public
Health
officials,
resigning
in
a
premier
who
will
not
endorse
the
flu
shot
Mr
Speaker.
Is
this
a
quote
better
than
ever?
What
exactly
does
the
premier
think
a
crisis?
Look
like.
S
Mr
Speaker,
we
identified
three
priorities
that
Dr
John
Cowell
is
going
to
be
addressing.
He
has
made
progress
on
addressing
a
fast
track
into
our
emergency
rooms
and
we're
beginning
to
see
the
results.
A
few
weeks
ago,
we
were
seeing
wait
times
of
12
and
14
and
17
hours,
we're
not
seeing
that
today
and,
in
addition,
we're
going
to
see
changes
happening
with
EMS
we're
looking
forward
to
announcing
some
of
those
in
the
New
Year,
based
on
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
our
paramedics.
S
R
Mr
Speaker
the
crisis
in
ER
and
ambulances
is
not
addressed.
Come
on
now,
aside
from
having
John
Cowell
talk
to
people
at
AHS
for
three
weeks,
the
premier
could
also
take
real
practical
action
to
set
standards
for
health
care
in
this
province.
Now,
in
an
op-ed
published
yesterday,
the
former
hqca
chair,
Dr,
Trevor
thiemens,
says
about
our
bill.
201
quote:
setting
and
Reporting
on
standards
make
good
sense
and
Dr
Paul
parks,
president-elect
of
the
AMA
agrees.
S
I
can
tell
you
why
I
won't
vote
in
favor
of
Bill
201.
It's
because
there's
a
clause
in
there
that
would
deny
the
private
sector
the
ability
to
do
chartered
surgical
centers.
We
have
an
excellent
example
of
a
chartered
Surgical
Center
that
opened
up
in
Edmonton
they're,
going
to
be
doing
4
500
surgeries.
If
this
bill
passes
what's
going
to
happen,
is
it's
going
going
to
limit
the
ability
of
private
sector
entrepreneurs
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
start.
R
Well,
actually,
Mr
Speaker.
If
the
bill
passes,
this
government
will
be
held
to
account
for
purporting
and
meeting
standards
of
Public
Health
Care,
which
otherwise
they've
been
ambivalent
about
it.
All
albertans
deserve
to
get
the
health
care
they
need
when
and
where
they
need
it.
A
good
start
would
be
setting
those
proper
standards.
Our
proposal
empowers
the
Health
Quality
Council
to
do
just
that,
yet
the
UCP
has
refused
to
even
to
debate
our
bill.
R
S
Division
of
Alberta
Health
Services,
they
have
identified
the
measures.
They've
asked
for
a
few
weeks
to
be
able
to
get
the
benchmarks
and
then
be
able
to
show
some
improvement
in
reporting
and
I
I'm,
looking
forward
to
the
NDP
supporting
our
measures
when
they
start
when
we
were
able
to
reveal
those
in
a.
T
Thank
you.
Alberta
drivers
are
getting
host,
often
royally.
Those
are
the
words
of
Calvary
Sun
columnist.
Rick
Bell
in
his
right
Alberta
has
the
highest
rate
of
auto
insurance
in
Canada.
According
to
a
new
report
by
Ernest
and
Young,
older
drivers
younger
drivers,
those
with
experienced
those
in
an
accident,
everyone
is
paying
more
here.
The
premier
refused
to
commit
to
any
action.
Yesterday,
Rick
ball,
thanks
cutting
Insurance
costs.
Is
a
slam
duck?
Why
doesn't
the
premier
agree?
Why
does
she
refuse
to
act?
The.
S
S
2015
and
2019
Insurance
went
from
1
178
dollars
to
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
six
dollars.
That's
five
percent
per
year
exactly
and
it's
only
increased
12
in
the
last
three
yeah.
S
T
Answer,
but
we
have
a
solution
later
this
week,
I
will
be
tabling
private
members.
Bill
206,
with
Phil
impose
an
immediate
one-year
freeze
on
auto
insurance.
This
would
give
us
time
to
clean
up
the
mass
cars
by
this
UCP
government
and
it
will
take
effect
immediately
upon
Proclamation.
Will
the
premier
rise
in
this
house
right
now
and
commit
to
sporting
my
legislation.
S
N
S
T
Nine
ounces,
so
many
of
my
constituents
rely
on
their
vehicles
for
work.
I
will
be
sharing
the
previous
garment
with
them.
We
know
the
UCP
connection
to
insurers,
Insurance
lobbyists
Run
Deep,
they
hope
JC
Kenny
get
elected
in
2019
and
they
are
back
numerous
members
of
that
cabinet.
Alberta
albertans
are
rightly
asking
if
it's
only
UCP
Insider
who
can
get
ahead
under
this
premium,
they
are
getting
hosts.
They
want
transparency.
Will
the
premier
commit
to
tabling,
by
end
of
the
business
day-to-day
a
full
list
of
the
meetings
her
Minister
have
had
with
insurance
industry
lobbyists.
B
S
Y
Yesterday,
the
Finance
Minister
talked
at
length
about
how
hard
he's
working
to
hijack
alberton's
retirement
savings
and
to
force
us
all
to
file
our
taxes
twice
and
cost
us
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
to
do
so.
To
his
credit,
when
the
minister
wants
to
win
flight
pad
ideas
on
albertans,
he
does
so
with
confidence
with
zest
with
Esprit
acore
his
sneaky
income.
Taxes
are
no
different.
Y
Z
Mr
Speaker
it
just
it's
amazing
how
the
members
opposites
simply
don't
want
this
government
to
look
for
opportunities
and
solutions
for
albertans
Mr
Speaker
We
inherited
a
fiscal
train
wreck
from
the
members
opposite.
We
who
were
spending
four
percent
more
every
year,
while
their
revenues
were
going
down.
Mr
Speaker.
We
presented
a
budget
2022
that
ultimately
resulted
in
a
500
million
dollar
Surplus.
Had
we
continued
on
their
track,
it
wouldn't
have
been
a
surplus.
It
would
have
been
a
six
billion
dollar.
Y
Well,
just
as
he
refused
to
answer
the
question,
he
refused
to
be
honest
about
his
income
tax
hikes
for
years.
Even
when
asked
about
it
in
this
house,
he
let
our
taxes
rise
with
inflation
as
a
result,
we're
all
paying
more.
He
wouldn't
tell
us
how
much
more,
but
the
Finance
Minister
knew
that
by
2024
his
sneaky
tax
hikes
would
be
taking
868
million
dollars
a
year
more
from
albertans
a
cumulative
2.2
billion
in
higher
income
taxes,
but
he
hid
that
information.
Z
Speaker,
we
were
very
transparent
with
albertans
in
2019
any
any
programs
that
we
pause,
the
indexing
on
Mr
Speaker.
We
were
clear
with
albertans
that
when
we
brought
our
fiscal
house
in
order,
we
would
resume
indexing
and
Mr
Speaker.
That's
exactly
what
we're
doing.
More
importantly,
we're
not
spending
the
next
generation's
income
like
the
member's
office
order
order,
The.
Y
Finance
Minister
claimed
he
didn't
increase
income
tax
that
was
false.
His
last
budget
milk,
miscalculated
inflation
oops.
The
same
budget
also
claimed
that
wage
growth
would
be
greater
than
inflation
wrong.
Again,
he
refused
to
even
acknowledge
the
harm
he
was
causing.
As
40-year
high
inflation
took
more
and
more
from
albertans,
the
Finance
Minister
got
it
wrong.
He
implemented
Jason
Kennedy's
bad
ideas.
He
put
party
over
Province,
he
didn't
level
with
albertans
about
how
much
he
was
costing
us.
So
why
Premier
Beyond
his
46
percent
of
the
vote?
Does
he
still
have
a
job.
A
B
Z
Speaker,
we
have
two
case
studies
here:
the
members
opposite
when
they
were
in
government.
They
raised
taxes
on
everything
that
moved
increased
regulatory
burden,
sent
tens
of
billions
of
dollars
of
investment
packing
and
delivered
success
of
deficit
budgets,
Mr
Speaker,
we
dropped
taxes
created
the
most
competitive
business
environment,
possible,
we're
attracting
investment
leading
the
nation
in
economic
growth
and
Mr
Speaker.
We've
got
a
balanced
budget.
J
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
every
community
in
Alberta
is
facing
addiction,
homelessness
and
public
safety
issues.
Constituency
constituents
consistently
raise
concerns
and
we
have
seen
numerous
stories
coming
out
of
Edmonton
of
assaults
and
attacks
on
hard-working
edmontonians
commuting
within
the
city,
and
the
government
has
a
responsibility
to
act
to
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addiction.
Can
you
please
explain
how
this
government
intends
to
address
addiction,
homelessness
and
Public
Safety
in
Alberta's,
Capital,
City,
The.
AA
Speaker,
the
member
is
absolutely
right.
Every
community
in
our
province
has
been
impacted
by
addiction,
homelessness
and
public
safety
issues
and
Edmonton
has
been
hit
especially
hard.
Today,
my
colleagues
and
I
announced
the
creation
of
the
Edmonton
Public
Safety
and
Community
response
task
force
and
I
look
forward
to
working
with
them
to
provide
more
life-saving
services
to
edmontonians
who
are
struggling
with
addiction
and
homelessness,
while
enhancing
Public
Safety.
J
Stony
Plain,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
minister
for
his
answer.
Given
that
there
is
no
one
solution
to
addiction
and
its
Associated
social
issues
and
given
a
collaboration
with
all
aspects
of
a
community
is
essential
in
supporting
those
who
are
affected
by
addiction,
homelessness
and
public
safety
issues,
and
given
that
the
task
force
that
was
announced
this
morning
is
responsible
for
implementing
initiatives
that
will
help
provide
more
life-saving
services
to
edmontonians.
AA
You
Mr
Speaker.
We
have
brought
together
a
talented
pool
of
local
leaders
who
work
collaboratively
on
addressing
these
issues
in
Edmonton.
The
membership
will
include
counselors,
Hamilton
and
Carmel
Chief
Billy,
Morin,
Chief
Isaac,
a
lubican
avaram,
four
cabinet
ministers
and
and
others
as
well,
and
other
Municipal
and
Emergency
Services
Representatives
will
be
there
to
help
out.
AA
Hampton
Public,
Safety
and
Community
response
task
force
will
Implement
a
series
of
initiatives
as
part
of
a
187
million
dollar
plan
to
address
addiction
and
homelessness
in
Alberta's
Urban
centers.
This
includes
further
increasing
addiction,
treatment
capacity,
providing
addiction
and
mental
health
treatment
programs
in
correctional
centers,
creating
a
hybrid
health
and
police
Hub,
and
so
so
much
more
Mr
Speaker
I
look
forward
to
working
with
this
talented
group
and
I'm
sure
that
we
will
be
able
to
come
to
a
conclusion
in
order
to
help
edmontonians.
AB
2013,
the
current
Premier
stood
against
an
Alberta
Pension
Plan.
She
knew
that
removing
albertans
from
the
CPP
and
replacing
it
with
a
provincial
pension
was
wildly
unpopular
and
went
against
the
wishes
of
the
majority
of
albertans.
An
Alberta
pension
plan
is
an
absurd
proposal
that
will
unnecessarily
complicate
retirement
for
many
albertans.
It
will
also
allow
this
provincial
government
with
its
terrible
track
record,
having
lost
the
trust
of
all
albertans
to
gamble
with
their
retirement.
Will
the
premier
stand
here
today
to
agree
with
herself
from
2013.
AB
Z
Mr
Speaker
pardon
my
mandate
letter
from
the
premier
was
to
investigate
the
merits,
the
opportunities
and
the
risks
of
an
Alberta
pension
plan
and
Mr
Speaker
I
intend
to
do
just
that
and
report
to
albertans
I
believe
there
is
great
potential
in
an
Alberta
Pension
Plan
Mr
Speaker
the
potential
to
bring
down
premiums
and
the
potential
to
improve
pension
benefits
for
Alberta
seniors,
but
Mr
Speaker.
We
will
complete
our
work
and
report
and
engage
with
albertans
Mr
Speaker.
The
NDP
would
have
us
not
do
so.
AB
Finding
support
s
worse
than
finding
a
needle
in
a
haystack
and
given
that
top
economists,
academics,
worker
representatives
have
all
said
that
Alberta
leaving
the
CPP
is
incredibly
unpopular
and
will
not
happen
without
quote
a
very
big
fight.
Given
this
government
has
done
nothing
to
prove
itself
capable.
Can
the
premier
please
explain
why
she's
so
willing
to
defy
the
wishes
of
the
Alberta
public
on
something
that
is
risky,
that
is
expensive
and
that
is
going
to
cost
albertans
retirement,
The
Honorable.
Z
B
Z
AB
Been
done
and
the
idea
is
bad,
given
that
this
Alberta
pensions
are
not
the
premier's
fund
money
and
given
that,
during
the
debate
she
opined
that
they
could
use
this
money
to
fund
other
government
programs.
It
is
clear
that
an
Alberta
pension
plan
is
a
waste
of
time
and
resource
that
is
not
supported
by
albertans
and,
as
my
colleague
said,
and
I
quote,
it
is
catastrophically
stupid.
Will
the
premier
stand
here
today
back
away
from
this
awful
idea,
protect
retirement
security
for
albertans
and
focus
on
the
real
issues?
AB
Z
Well,
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
focusing
on
on
the
real
issues:
the
issues
of
affordability,
the
issues
of
Health,
Care,
Mr,
Speaker,
the
issues
of
investment,
attraction
and
job
creation,
Mr
Speaker
and,
at
the
same
time,
we're
taking
a
look
at
the
opportunities,
the
benefits
and
the
costs
of
an
Alberta
Pension
Plan.
We're
looking
forward
to
report.
AC
First
budget,
the
Finance
Minister
called
economic
diversification,
a
luxury
and
proceeded
to
cut
several
tax
credits,
including
the
Alberta
investor
tax
credit,
which
delivered
a
three
to
one
return
on
investment.
As
a
result,
investors
pulled
out
of
Alberta
Venture
funds
now
are
on
the
verge
of
being
announced.
Dried
up
and
companies
that
were
expecting
Investments
were
left
empty-handed.
We
all
saw
it.
B
V
B
B
AC
In
the
ucp's
first
budget,
the
Finance
Minister
called
economic
diversification,
a
luxury
and
proceeded
to
cut
several
tax
credits,
including
the
Alberta
investor
tax
credit,
which
delivered
a
three
to
one
return
on
investment.
As
a
result,
investors
pulled
out
of
Alberta
Venture
funds
that
were
on
the
verge
of
being
announced.
Dried
up
and
companies
that
were
expecting
Investments
were
left
empty-handed.
AD
And
innovation
speaker,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Let's
talk
about
facts:
let's
talk
about
numbers
in
2016,
68
million
dollars
of
venture
investment,
2017
37
million
dollars
in
20
1800
million
dollars
that
was
under
that
government.
When
they
were
in
power
2019,
we
turned
a
corner:
227
million
2020
455
million
2021
561
million
I'm.
In
the
three
quarters
of
this
this
year,
509
million
we're
on
track
for
the
adventure
Capital.
We
are
getting
the
job.
AC
Thank
you
to
the
minister
for
confirming
that
the
investment
we're
seeing
today
was
because
of
the
tax
credit
that
our
government
instated
years
ago,
given
that
investment
in
early
stage
tech
companies
has
dropped
significantly
and
given
that
we're
seeing
Tech
contestment
grow
across
the
country,
but
Alberta
pales
in
comparison,
we
aren't
even
keeping
Pace
on
a
per
capita
basis.
Why
is
this
government
holding
our
Province
back
and
hurting
our
competitiveness.
AD
And
Innovation
Mr
Speaker
the
NDP,
never
let
the
facts
get
in
the
way
of
a
good
story,
but
let
me
correct
the
record:
in
the
first
half
of
this
year
we
saw
66
increase
year
over
year
in
investment
in
venture
capital
in
Alberta,
when
the
rest
of
the
country
was
down
by
over
20
percent.
We
are
leading
the
country
in
the
rate
of
investment
in
venture
capital
in
the
tech
industry.
The
NDP
had
a
failed
program
that
was
seen
as
overly
burdensome
and
that
the
industry
didn't
like
we
are.
AD
AC
Given
that
the
minister
recently
said,
the
aitc
did
not
create
long-term
sustainable
tech
companies,
even
though
I
recently
met
with
a
company.
That
said,
it
would
not
be
here
today
if
it
wasn't
for
the
aitc.
Given
that
the
minister
also
said
the
worst
thing
we
can
do
for
Tech
is
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
invest
in
Tech,
and
given
that
the
minister
also
said
he
doesn't
want
to
put
taxpayer
dollars
at
risk,
even
though
the
Venture
fund
he
used
to
work
for
relied
solely
on
taxpayer
dollars.
AD
Have
no
problem
misrepresenting
the
facts
as
that
member
just
did.
Let
me
correct
the
record.
The
fact
is
that
I
said
that
the
worst
thing
we
could
do
for
investment
is
to
encourage
people
to
invest
in
bad
deals
where
they
lose
their
money,
because
then
they
will
never
invest
in
Tech
again
we
want
to
create
the
conditions
to
ensure
that
good
companies
get
investment
and
that
investors
make
money,
because
then
they
will
be
addicted
to
investing
in
Tech
and
that's
a
good
thing
for
the
tech
industry
in
Alberta.
H
Mr
Speaker
inflation
affordability
are
largest
issues
facing
albertans
right
now,
while
this
is
not
a
problem
unique
to
Alberta,
Federal,
fiscal
mismanagement
and
looming
increases
to
the
carbon
tax
threatened
to
make
inflation
worse
before
it
improves.
This
government
has
made
strides
recently
in
providing
cost
relief
to
albertans,
including
electricity
rebates
and
reducing
the
provincial
fuel
tax,
the
Mr
affordability
and
utility.
How
will
our
government
continue
to
respond
to
the
inflation
crisis?
Deliver
relief
to
albertans.
B
Point
of
order
was
noted
at
216.,
The
Honorable,
the
minister
of
affordability
and
utilities.
Thank.
AF
You
Mr
Speaker
through
our
affordability
action
plan,
we
are
taking
steps
to
protect
albertans
from
inflation-driven
cost
of
living
increases.
If
passed,
the
inflation
Relief
act
will
provide
stability
on
utility
bills,
including
up
to
500
in
electricity
rebates
and
natural
gas
price
protection
to
help
albertans
power
and
Heat
their
homes.
This
winter
with
peace
of
mind,
we
are
passing
on
even
more
savings:
13.6
cents,
a
liter,
including
GST,
to
albertans
at
the
pumps,
by
eliminating
the
provincial
fuel
tax
for
six
months.
H
Buffalo,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker,
giving
up
fuel
is
one
area
that
was
identified
as
being
heavily
monitored.
It's
good
to
see
that
the
competition
Bureau
of
Canada
is
looking
into
it
and,
as
it
has
become
a
national
issue,
we
also
have
the
consumer
investigations
unit
monitoring,
Alberta
communities
for
potential
gouging.
However,
despite
the
suspension
of
the
fuel
tax,
gas
and
Edmonton
is
still
a
dollar.
Twenty
Airdrie
is
still
a
dollar
Thirty
and
Grand
cash
as
high
as
a
dollar.
Forty
to
the
same
Minister
has
the
government
identified
if
there's
any
gouging
whatsoever.
AG
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question
as
it
appears,
the
NDP
doesn't
have
a
Critic
for
service
Alberta
and
I'm
glad
somebody's
asking
the
important
questions
Mr
Speaker,
because
right
now
we
know
that
albertans
are
struggling
with
high
costs,
and
so
yes,
the
member
is
correct.
The
consumer
protection
unit
has
been
monitoring
prices
at
the
gas
pumps
in
Alberta
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
there
has
not
been
any
incidences
of
price
gouging.
H
Buffalo,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
even
though
Fort
McMurray
is
a
region
that
provides
billions
of
dollars
to
our
government
treasury
on
an
annual
basis
by
making
the
hydro
mining
the
hydrocarbons
used
to
make
this
very
fuel
fuel
prices
are
about
a
dollar
fifty
around
30
cents
higher
than
in
Edmonton.
Recently,
a
constituent
that
used
to
manage
a
gas
station
in
Fort
McMurray
said
that
the
cost
of
transportation
to
Fort
McMurray
only
adds
about
two
cents
per
liter
again
to
the
minister.
AG
You
Mr
Speaker
and
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question
and
there's
a
number
of
factors
that
go
into
the
the
price
that
that
we
see
the
pumps.
One
of
them,
of
course,
is
the
price
of
crude
oil.
Another
one
is
supply
and
demand,
and
we
also
know
that
prices
will
vary
by
retailer,
Mr
Speaker.
We
know
that
the
path
forward
for
lower
prices
is
through
increased
competition
and
more
choice
for
the
consumer
and,
of
course,
a
healthy
economy,
and
that
will
continue
to
be
our
priority.
Mr
Speaker,
the.
AH
You
Mr
Speaker.
Last
month,
15
000
Alberta
workers
lost
their
jobs.
Despite
this,
the
national
unemployment
rate
continues
to
drop.
It's
clear
that
the
UCP
government
is
more
focused
on
separating
than
Canada,
with
Canada
than
even
bothering
to
keep
on
families
aren't
asking
for
American
style,
private
schools,
they're
not
asking
for
American
style
private
surgeries,
and
they
certainly
aren't
asking
for
American
style
tax
cuts
for
corporations.
My
question
to
the
minister
of
jobs
and
economy
is
simple.
AE
AH
That
Venture
Capital
doesn't
pay
for
Christmas
dinner
and,
given
that
Alberta's
growth
in
average
weekly
wages
since
2019,
is
one
of
the
lowest
of
all
provinces
in
Canada,
and
given
that
the
government
has
been
extolling
Alberta's
job
growth
in
wages
for
years,
and
given
that
we
know
that
UCP
government
likes
to
brag
about
how
closely
they
work
with
these
big
wealthy
corporations.
Will
the
minister
today
10
accountability
and
apologize
to
the
Working
Families,
who
have
to
stop
the
food
bank
on
the
way
home
while
he
rubs
elbows
in
boardrooms,
The.
AE
Speaker,
our
sympathies
are
with
any
family
right
now,
they're
having
troubles
in
Alberta.
That's
why
we're
so
excited
to
tell
albertans
and
the
member
opposite
that
you
know
housing
starts.
Mr
Speaker
in
Alberta
are
up
22
percent
the
value
of
building
permits
up
9.6
percent
Mr
Speaker.
All
experts
agree
that
Alberta
will
lead
the
nation
in
GDP
growth
in
2324.
and
Mr
Speaker.
We're
not
going
to
apologize
for
something.
That's
actually
working
out
well
for
albertans
albertans
have
the
jobs
they're
going
to
see
significant
savings
and
significant
money
from
our
minister
of
affordability,
The.
AH
And
housing
starters,
but
it's
useful
to
little
Timmy
as
Olympic
hole
and
given
that,
according
to
the
Alberta
living
wage
Network,
the
living
wage
needed
to
achieve
a
standard
of
living
in
Alberta
is
higher
than
our
current
minimum
wage.
And
given
that
Alberta
is
the
only
Province
to
not
raise
its
minimum
wage
this
year,
so
that
Gap
is
only
getting
larger.
And
given
that
everything,
the
minister
has
said,
is
going
to
be
too
little
too
late.
AF
Thank
you
Mr
Speaker.
Well,
we
don't
have
an
affordability
measure
of
7
200
for
a
politicians
who
break
the
law.
We
do
have
significant
financial
relief
coming
to
albertans
at
a
time
when
they
need
it.
The
most
we
have
500
in
electricity
rebates.
We
have
fuel
tax
relief.
Every
time
you
fill
up
your
car
with
gas
or
diesel.
We
have
natural
gas
price
protection,
so
you
can
heat
your
home
with
confidence.
So,
while
I'm
open
to
suggestions
from
the
member
opposite,
we
are
busy
we're
not
out
of
computer.
We
are
helping
albertans
out
of
time.
P
Mr
Speaker
the
South
Edmonton
hospital
is
critical
to
so
many
people
living
in
Edmonton
and
nearby
municipalities.
It
would
provide
additional
capacity
that
my
constituents
desperately
need.
Our
NDP
government
was
proud
to
approve
this
project
in
2017
and
pledged
to
have
it
open
by
2026..
This
government
abandoned
those
timelines.
They
said
that
he
intended
to
install
construction
by
2023
and
open
it
by
2030,
but
then
another
change,
the
government's
own
website
for
the
project
pulled
it
down
and
23
start
date
is
now
blank
for
the
record.
AI
Speaker,
thank
you
for
the
question.
It
is
true.
The
NDP
started
this
process
with
a
announcement
of
money,
but
no
plan.
So
now
we
are
working
through
a
business
plan
with
Alberta
Health
Services
to
find
out
exactly
how
we're
going
to
serve
the
people
of
Edmonton.
What
facilities
will
meet
that
need
and
then
moving
forward
we
can
get
to
the
Target
or
when
we
can
start
the
project,
how
long
it
will
take
and
what
it'll
cost.
Thank.
B
AI
Minister
of
infrastructure,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
We
are
proceeding
with
a
good
plan
to
find
the
best
way
forward
to
meet
the
needs
of
those
people
in
Edmonton.
Yes,
there
is
a
capacity,
but
this
is
what
happens
when
you
go
forward
with
the
political
announcement
with
no
plans
to
back
it
up.
We
are
having
to
go
back
and
do
that
work
to
show
the
people
of
Edmonton
how
we
can
best
meet
their
needs.
There
are
many
needs,
whether
it's
a
solar
e
children's
hospital
or
other
hospitals.
We
all
they
all
need
help.
C
Honorable,
the
minister
of
Education,
thank
you
Mr
speaker.
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
I
draw
the
member
opposite's
attention
back
to
the
fact
that
the
Edmonton
Public
School
Division
actually
did
not
prioritize
that
particular
School
in
their
previous
budget
capital
budget.
Thankfully,
we've
had
conversations
they
understand
that
if
they
want
schools
in
growing
areas,
they
need
to
make
them
a
top
priority
and
that's
exactly
what
they're
doing
Mr
Speaker
I
look
forward
to
bringing
my
capital
budget
up
in
the
months
to
come.
The
Honorable
member.
W
For
Andrew
East
has
a
question.
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
is
the
MLA
for
Airdrie
East
I've
heard
just
how
much
our
Health
Care
system
is
struggling
in
the
rural
areas
of
our
Province
EMS
response
times
have
gone
up
drastically
and
these
delays
could
be
tragic
for
albertans.
If
we
don't
do
something,
can
the
minister
of
Health
answer
this?
How
will
the
government
specifically
improve
EMS
response
times
in
rural
communities,
The.
AJ
Speaker
and
I
want
to
thank
the
honorable
member
for
the
for
the
question
and
her
passionate
representation
for
for
Airdrie
Mr
Speaker,
as
stated
in
this
house
before
this
is
a
priority
and
we're
making
some
progress
through
AHS
Metro
response
plan,
they've
cut
the
number
of
trips
into
the
major
cities,
including
Calgary
and
out
of
out
of
areas
such
as
Airdrie
and
and
other
surrounding
communities,
and
we're
seeing
some
improvements
in
these
response
times
and
air
during
October.
AJ
W
You
Mr
speaker
thank
you,
Minister
for
the
update
and
given
that
our
government
has
provided
funding
for
many
new
ambulances
this
year,
including
one
in
my
own
constituency
and
given
that
Alberta
Health
Services
struggles
to
find
paramedics
to
actually
staff
them.
Hundreds
of
shifts
are
being
left
unfilled.
Every
week,
given
over
9
000
shifts
in
Alberta,
including
463
shifts
in
Airdrie,
have
been
left
unfilled
this
year.
Can
the
minister
please
tell
us
what
the
plans
are
to
improve
these
Staffing
shortages?
Well,.
AJ
Thanks
again,
Mr
Speaker
and
thanks
again
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question,
Mr
Speaker.
As
you
know,
EMS
has
seen
an
unprecedented
30
call
increase
since
2021
of
the
summer.
A
similar
pressures
exist
across
the
entire
country.
We
increase,
as
noted
by
The
Honorable
member
EMS
budget
by
64
million
dollars
this
year
and
the
main
purpose
for
that
is
to
add
staff.
Ems
has
hired
364
new
staff
members
since
January
1st,
including
264
paramedics
and
since
June
19
they've
added
more
than
450
paramedics
and
18
increase.
Now
they'll
keep
hiring
to.
W
The
future,
thank
you
Mr,
Speaker
and
Minister,
given
that
our
rural
ambulances
are
being
dispatched
through
the
urban
centers
to
fill
gaps
in
their
own
City
and
Rural
residents
are
left
waiting
for
help
why
the
paramedics
are
too
busy
to
attend.
Attending
City
calls,
given
that
those
rural
residents
aren't
getting
the
critical
help
that
they
rightfully
deserve
Minister.
What
do
you
plan
to
do
to
keep
paramedics
and
ambulances
working
in
Airdrie
and
other
rural
communities?
The.
AJ
Minister,
thanks
again
to
The
Honorable
member
for
the
question
Mr
Speaker,
we
are
moving
swiftly
to
improve
response
times
and
continue
to
make
this
a
priority.
So
Emergency
Care
is
available
when
and
where
it's
needed
again.
Our
goal
is
to
have
more
ambulances
available
for
emergency
calls
and
fewer
ambulances,
neededly
tied
up
in
transfers
or
waiting
at
a
an
emergency
room.
AJ
So
we've
made
progress
very
pleased
that
is
part
of
the
10-point
plan,
be
able
to
reduce
the
amount
of
calls
for
ambulances
coming
from
rural
areas
into
the
large
communities
like
like
Calgary,
that's
been
reduced
by
40
and
we're
going
to
keep
working
at
it
till
we
actually
get
those
response
times.
Down.
AK
Mr
Speaker
teachers
across
the
province
continue
to
endure
extremely
challenging
working
conditions
because
of
the
ucp's
absolute
failure
to
support
students,
staff
and
families.
A
recent
ATA
survey
showed
that
class
sizes
have
blown
to
30
40
and
often
even
more
students
in
many
classrooms
across
the
province.
This
pressure
on
teachers
is
not
only
causing
great
harm
to
their
well-being,
but
it's
also
negatively
impacting
students
who
are
forced
to
try
to
learn
in
overcrowded
classrooms.
Will
the
minister
of
Education
admit
that
this
is
the
ucp's
plan,
because
it's
clear
that
they
don't
value
public
education.
B
C
Education
Mr
Speaker.
That's
absolutely
ludicrous.
In
fact,
the
member
opposite
a
while
ago
admitted
to
the
fact
that
she
didn't
read
the
curriculum.
Obviously,
she
also
hasn't
read
our
budget.
We
have
increased
funding
to
the
highest
level
ever
in
this
province,
8.4
billion
dollars.
That,
in
fact
has
created
an
opportunity
for
school
divisions
to
hire
800
more
teachers
and
800
more
educational
assistants,
Mr
Speaker,
the
members
opposite,
they
did
nothing
to
address
class
sizes,
The.
AK
Well,
given
that
Jason
Kenney
and
the
current
education
Minister
cut
funding
that
was
dedicated
to
reducing
class
sizes
funding,
that
was
in
place
when
the
NDP
was
in
government
and
other
governments
before
and
given
that
the
UCP
under
the
current
education
Minister
has
decided
to
try
to
hide
the
ballooning
class
sizes
from
the
public
by
refusing
to
publish
class
size
data
data
that
had
previously
been
available
to
albertans
for
Generations.
Will
the
current
education
Minister
admit
that
trying
to
hide
the
impacts
of
her
Cuts
was
wrong
and
disposed
class
sizes
in
this
house
today.
C
Speaker
again,
misinformation
Mr
Speaker
again
they
do
not
understand
the
fact
that
in
the
previous
budget
we
were
actually
funding
730
000
students,
when
716
000
students
actually
attended
the
previous
year.
Prior
to
that,
in
the
2021
school
year
we
actually
funded
730
000
students,
705
000
students,
Mr
Speaker,
I'm,
happy
to
say,
students
are
coming
back
because
of
the
fact
that
we
have
a
great
Province
and
people
are
migrating
to
this
province.
I'm
happy
to
share
that
we
are
have
more
students
and
we're
funding
them.
The
Honorable
member.
AK
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
we
do
have
more
students
and
we
also
have
fewer
teachers
than
we
had
when
the
NDP
was
in
government
and
given
that
Alberta
teachers
are
struggling
with
overcluttered
classrooms.
On
top
of
that,
teachers
are
reporting
an
increase
in
complexity
and
diversity
of
the
students
they're
supporting
and
given
that
the
decline
and
support
for
student
services
has
resulted
in
a
six-month
to
one
year.
Wait
for
speech
therapy
occupational
therapy,
Physical
Therapy,
psycho-educational
assessments.
AK
T
Mr
Speaker
I
was
proud
to
be
a
part
of
an
NDP
government
that
in
2018
signed
a
long-term
agreement
to
increase
funding
for
Legal
Aid
Alberta.
We
provided
70
million
dollar
more
over
four
years.
We
did
this
in
recognition
of
increased
demand
and
the
right
for
every
albertan
to
be
fairly
represented.
Can
the
Minister
of
Justice
stalled
this
house
for
the
record
why
this
government
tore
up
this
critical
funding
agreement
and
risk,
leaving
so
many
albertan
without
legal
aid
in
the
process.
AL
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
to
the
member
for
the
question.
Of
course.
As
he
knows,
government
is
only
one
of
the
funders
for
legal
aid.
Legal
aid
is
is
funded.
It
has
all
the
funding
that
it
requires
to
make
sure
that
albertans
have
access
to
Justice
we've
also
throughout
22,
received
requests
from
various
members
of
the
criminal
defense
bar
on
concerns.
They
have,
with
the
the
current
tariff
rate,
we're
happy
to
get
those
those
that
information
from
from
those
folks.
AL
B
AL
Nothing
is
true:
Mr
Speaker
legal
aid
is
funded.
It
has
all
the
funding.
It
requires
to
make
sure
that
albertans
have
access
to
Justice.
We
had
just
finished
a
modernization
project
for
the
40
items
in
the
Tariff
Mr
Speaker
working
with
legal
aid,
empowering
them
to
be
able
to
do
that
review
and
now
we're
happy
to
continue
to
work
with
legal
aid,
making
sure
that
they
have
all
the
funding
that
they
require
to
make
sure
that
albertans
have
access
to
justice
that
they
deserve.
T
Given
that
legal
aid
roster
lawyers
have
stopped
accepting
files,
including
for
serious
offenses,
including
sexual
assaults,
homicides
and
family
law
matters,
and
given,
we
may
never
know
the
true
extent
of
the
damage
caused
by
this
government.
Will
the
minister
tell
this
house
how
he
plans
to
determine
how
many
people
were
denied
Justice
as
a
result
of
the
chaos
this
government
created,
and
will
he
committed
it
to
restoring
the
legal
aid
funding
agreement
signed
under
the
NDP
government
and
revising
legal
aid
tariffs
in
eligibility
guidelines.
AL
Of
Justice
well,
no
Mr
Speaker,
because
everything
he's
just
said
is
not
true.
Legal
aid
has
all
the
funding
that
it
requires.
People
have
access
to
Justice
and
in
fact
we
have
just
in
the
last
couple
months,
increased
the
Tariff
amounts
for
the
criminal
defense
bar
by
eight
percent
Mr
Speaker.
So
everything
the
member
has
said
is
completely
and
totally
untrue.
AM
Speaker
during
the
2021-22
fiscal
year,
Alberta's
government
debt
servicing
costs
alone
were
over
2.6
billion
dollars.
This
amount
exceeds
the
total
operating
expenses
of
the
children,
services
seniors
and
housing,
and
Municipal
Affairs
Ministries
combined
Mr
Speaker.
Can
the
Minister
of
Finance
please
share
with
this
house.
What
is
the
plan
to
return
the
debt
as
soon
as
possible?
So
we
can
stop
paying
the
interest
to
bankers
and
start
focusing
on
providing
the
services
that
albertans
deserve.
Z
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
that
important
question.
Paying
down
debt
is
one
of
our
top
priorities:
Mr
Speaker.
In
fact,
our
goal
is
to
pay
off
debt
as
it
matures
Mr
Speaker
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we're
planning
on
on
paying
off
all
the
debt
that's
maturing
in
this
fiscal
year,
that's
13.4
billion
dollars,
Mr
Speaker.
AM
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
albertans
also
support
growing
the
Alberta
Heritage
Trust
Fund
to
support
future
Generations.
But,
given
that
the
debts
governments
have
racked
up
over
the
past
14
years
threatens
the
future.
Can
the
minister
who
I
respect
for
his
long
background
in
ranching
and
accounting
tell
us
how
best
to
balance
the
need
to
reduce
the
debt
with
the
opportunity
to
increase
long-term
Savings
in
the
Heritage
savings
fund?.
Z
Hey
Karen-
that
is
a
great
question
and
you
know,
what's
really
great-
is
to
actually
be
debating
the
tension
between
paying
down
debt
and
additional
investment
in
the
Heritage
savings
trust
fund.
We
can
only
do
that.
Mr
Speaker,
because
we
have
a
balanced
budget.
Mr
Speaker
I've
asked
for
the
analysis
and
the
analysis
I've
received
is
this:
if,
from
the
start
of
the
Heritage
savings
trust
fund,
all
of
the
earnings
were
in
reinvested
in
the
fund
Mr
Speaker,
we
would
be
sitting
at
close
to
300
billion
dollars
in
that
trust
fund.
AM
AM
Mr
Speaker,
given
that
Premier
Ralph
Klein,
famously
declared
in
2004
that
Alberta
had
paid
back
all
of
it
that
in
full,
but
given
that
the
latest
fiscal
update
forecasts
or
75
billion
dollars
of
taxpayers
supported
that
since
2004..
What
does
this
Minister?
Who
is
a
proud
grandfather
and
not
a
carried
politician
plan
to
do
to
ensure
that
the
fiscal
discipline
of
these
government's
first
three
years
continues
into
the
future?
So
we
can
pay
back
our
debt
The.
Z
Mr
Speaker
running
Surplus
budgets
is
just
is
not
only
responsible
fiscal
management,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
we're
being
responsible
to
the
Next
Generation,
we're
not
downloading
irresponsible
fiscal
decisions
onto
our
children
and
grandchildren
and
I
appreciate
the
question.
Mr
Speaker,
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
we're
projecting
a
net
debt
to
GDP
ratio
under
10
percent.
That
will
ensure
Alberta
has
by
Far
and
Away
the
strongest
balance
sheet
of
any
Province.
Continued
fiscal
discipline
will
matter
into
the
future,
along
with
positioning
this
province
for
an
investment
attraction
and
economic
growth.
B
Honorable
members,
this
does
conclude
the
time
allotted
for
oral
question
period,
but
before
you
go,
if
I
can
remind
you
of
two
quick
things,
we
had
the
pleasure
of
being
joined
by
some
former
members
this
afternoon.
They
are
here
primarily
because
of
the
reception
that
is
being
hosted
between
the
former
members
Association
and
the
current
members.
If
you
are
able
this
evening,
6
p.m.
B
D
Thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
I
have
quite
a
bit
this
afternoon,
so
I
Rise
to
move
a
number
of
motions.
First
I
Rise
to
give
oral
notice
government
motion
16
sponsored
by
myself,
be
it
resolved
at
the
Legislative
Assembly
will
rescind
its
approval
of
the
motion,
move
pursuant
to
standing
order.
8-8
agreed
to
on
December
5th
2022.
D
I
also
give
oral
notice
of
government
motion
17
sponsored
by
myself,
be
it
resolved
that,
pursuant
to
section
3
of
the
statutes
repeal
act,
essay
2013,
cs-19.3
the
following
statutes
appearing
on
the
list
of
statutes
to
be
repealed,
which
was
tabled
in
the
assembly
by
the
clerk
of
the
assembly.
On
behalf
of
the
then
Minister
of
Justice
and
solicitor
general
on
March
14
2022,
sessional
paper,
24
2022
not
be
repealed.
One
an
act
to
end
a
predatory
lending,
2016,
ce-9.5
and
s52
two
Vital
Statistics
and
life
events.
Modernization
act,
2016,
c2026,
ss2b,
11a,
31,
41.
D
I
also
give
oral
notice
in
government
motion
18
sponsored
by
myself.
They
had
resolved
at
a
the
2001
to
2021
2022
annual
report
of
the
office
of
the
child.
Youth
Advocate
be
referred
to
the
standing
committee
on
legislative
offices
for
review
B.
The
committee
made
without
leave
of
the
assembly
sit
during
a
period
when
the
assembly
is
adjourned
or
Perot
see
in
accordance
with
section
21-4
of
the
child
advocate
act.
The
committee
shall
report
back
to
the
assembly
within
90
days
of
the
report
being
referred
to
it.
D
If
the
assembly
is
then
sitting
or
if
it
is
not,
then
sitting
within
15
days
after
the
commencement
of
the
next
sitting
and
finally,
I
give
oral
notice
a
government
motion,
19
sponsored
by
myself,
be
it
resolved
that
a
the
2019-2021
annual
report
of
the
Alberta
property
rights
advocate
office
be
referred
to
the
standing
committee
on
Alberta's
economic
future
for
review
B.
The
committee
May
without
leave
of
the
assembly
sit
during
a
period
when
the
assembly
is
adjourned
or
proved
C
in
accordance
with
Section
5,
five
of
the
property
rights
Advocate
act.
D
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I
Rise
to
table
the
requisite
number
of
copies
of
the
Social
Health
Equity
network
of
West
virgin
area,
2022,
Lethbridge,
child
and
family
report
and
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
the
authors:
Echo
Nowak
Rhonda
reach,
Janelle
Marietta,
Dr,
Sharon,
yanicki,
Sasha,
Donahue,
Jermaine,
Wells,
Mila,
luchak,
Aaron,
Mason,
Laurie,
Harrison
and
Heather
lowen.
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
E
Tablings
to
the
clerk
I
wish
to
advise
the
assembly
that
the
following
documents
were
deposited
with
the
office
of
the
clerk
on
behalf
of
honorable
Mr
Madu,
Deputy,
Premier,
Minister
of
skilled
trades
and
professions
pursuant
to
the
land
surveyors
act.
Alberta
land
surveyors
Association
reported
the
proceedings
of
the
113th
annual
general
meeting
April
21-23
2022.
on
behalf
of
honorable
Mr
Horner,
minister
of
Agriculture
and
irrigation
pursuant
to
the
marketing
of
agricultural
products,
act,
Alberta,
agricultural
products,
marketing
Council
annual
report,
2021
2022,
pursued
to
the
farm,
implement
and
dealership
act.
E
Farmers
advocate
office
annual
report
2021-22
pursuant
to
the
livestock
identification
and
Commerce
Act
livestock
identification.
Services
Limited
report
to
the
minister
and
summary
of
activities:
April
1
2021
to
March
31
2022,
pursued
to
the
agriculture
Financial
Services
act,
agriculture,
Financial,
Services,
Corporation,
2019-20
annual
report.
B
T
Technology
and
innovation,
it
was
to
answer
a
question
from
member
from
Edmonton
Valley
Clearview
and
said
twice:
I,
don't
have
the
benefit
of
rule
but
set
wise
that
that
member
is
misrepresenting.
That
member
is
misrepresenting
fact
and
shame
on
him.
So
if
we
look
at
h,
I
and
J.
Certainly
member
was
stating
facts
if
he
disagrees
with
it.
T
But
telling
other
members
that
he's
misrepresenting
that's
making
false
allegation
against
another
member
that
will
be
covered
by
h,
imputing,
false
motives
to
another
member
of
the
Wildwood
member
misrepresent
anything
in
the
language
he
used
was
certainly
abusive
and
insulting.
So,
under
all
h,
I
and
J
ministers
comments
for
off-site
these
rules
and
I.
Think
Minister
should
retract
and
apologize.
D
Call
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I,
believe
you
have
given
caution
to
the
chamber
in
the
past
about
making
doing
things
indirectly
that
you
cannot
do
directly
suggesting
a
specific
member
misrepresent
the
facts.
Whether
I
agree
with
it
or
not,
is
irrelevant.
I
do
withdraw
the
comment.
B
Y
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker
I
Rise,
to
provide
some
comments
on
Bill
2.,
a
bill
that
does
provides
some
inflation
relief
to
to
families,
to
working
people
to
people
with
children.
So
I'm
going
I
I've
just
received
some
news,
Mr
Speaker
that
I
will
share
with
the
house
and
I'll
tie
it
into
this
bill.
Madam
speaker,
that's
our
my
friend
Curtis
Noble,
who
is
a
firefighter
in
Medicine
Hat,
who
has
been
active
in
the
Alberta,
Association,
professional,
firefighters
and
paramedics.
Y
He
worked
very
hard
and
has
worked
very
hard
for
presumptive
coverage
for
his
brothers
and
sisters
in
the
firefighters
for
better
health
care
for
better
education
system
he's
in
the
ICU
this
afternoon.
The
prognosis
is
not
positive,
Madam
speaker
and
he's
on
my
mind
as
I
deliver
his
remarks.
Y
Last
time
I
saw
him.
We
had
a
pretty
good
Alberta
moment.
He
came
into
town
and
him
and
Andrew
stayed
at
my
place
to
go
see
the
core
blunt
show
they
refused
to.
Let
me
pay
for
the
ticket,
they
drank
too
much
of
my
expensive,
Scotch,
I.
Think
as
change,
and
we
all
stayed
up
really
late
after
having
a
good
time
at
the
Corp
show
so
families
all
across
this
province
work
hard
to
contribute
to
their
communities.
Y
Y
We
will
make
sure
that
we
update
the
house
as
to
his
progress
and
to
recognize
his
Service
as
a
fire
professional
firefighter
in
the
city
of
Medicine
Hat.
Y
Y
You
know
people
living
in
low
income,
for
example
in
Lethbridge
11.2
percent
of
our
residents
at
last
count
I
just
tabled
this
report,
Madam
speaker,
written
with
funding
by
the
City
of
Lethbridge
from
the
Social
Health
Equity
network
of
West
virgin
area
and
I
want
to
commend
the
folks
that
worked
on
this
report,
many
of
whom
have
been
doing
such
work
in
last
bridge
on
anti-poverty
work
for
many
years.
Y
Certainly
a
couple
of
the
reports-
authors,
Dr
Sharon,
yanaki,
stash
of
Donahue
Lori
Harrison,
have
been
hard
at
work
for
as
long
as
I've
known
them,
which
is
probably
15
years,
maybe
more
using
the
2019
census.
Family
low-income
measure
after
tax
for
Less,
Bridge,
15
of
Children
and
Youth
age
0
to
17
are
low
income
and
children
living
in
Lone
parent
families
have
a
greater
likelihood
of
experiencing
conditions
of
poverty
than
those
in
two
adult
families.
Y
Almost
half
of
children
in
Lethbridge
of
Lone
parents
live
in
poverty.
Children
live
in
deeper
poverty
than
adults,
with
children
aged
0
to
5,
experiencing
the
highest
rates
of
low
income
across
age
groups.
Y
This
is
compounded
by
racialization
in
the
City
of
Lethbridge
Madam
speaker
for
Lethbridge
CMA,
the
low
income
rate
across
all
ages
for
those
who
identify
as
indigenous
as
27
for
children
aged
0
to
17,
the
low
income
rate
is
greatest
for
First
Nations
Nations
children
at
42
percent,
wow,
access
to
housing,
food
security
and
educational
and
early
childhood
development
are
all
affected
by
living
with
low
income.
And,
of
course
we
talk
about
this
in
terms
of
social
determinants
of
health
and
no
more
do
we
see
this
more
than
in
the
city
of
Westbridge.
Y
The
recent
survey
for
the
greatest
degree
of
poverty
is,
of
course,
folks
who
experience
homelessness.
Y
Y
According
to
the
survey
454
people
in
Lethbridge
are
experiencing
homelessness.
That's
more
than
double
the
223
people
recorded
in
2018..
Those
numbers
collected
over
a
six-hour
period
on
September
27th
were
released.
Last
week,
indigenous
people
make
up
6.6
percent
of
the
City's
population,
but
we're
over
represented
in
the
results
making
up
72
percent
of
unsheltered
people
and
36
percent
of
sheltered
homeless
people.
AN
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
I
really
appreciated
hearing
about
some
of
the
issues
in
Lethbridge
area.
The
area
you
represent,
and
certainly
we
know
that
homelessness
has
exploded
here
in
Edmonton
too.
It's
since
2019
and
I
guess
that's
when
the
UCP
was
first
elected.
AN
It
has
doubled
here
in
Edmonton,
and
a
lot
of
that
I
know
is
due
to
the
lack
of
investment
in
affordable
housing
in
permanent
Supportive
Housing
in
so
many
significant
areas
that
support
people
to
be
able
to
be
well
housed,
and
another
thing
that
we
know
is
that
Alberta
has
you
know
much
lower
than
the
national
average
of
other
provinces
in
terms
of
housing,
availability
in
terms
of
affordable
housing?
You
know,
4.3
percent
is
about
what
the
national
average
is
in
the
other
provinces
and
Alberta
has
about
2.9
percent.
AN
So
really
just
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
talk
about
that.
Y
Well,
thank
you.
Honorable
member
and
I
also
want
to
thank
her
The
Honorable
member
for
Edmonton
Riverview
for
her
advocacy,
both
in
housing
and
affordability
for
seniors
as
well
and
I,
both
in
her
time
as
a
minister
and
as
an
opposition
critic.
This
bill,
though
I
when
we
learn
about
these
specific
numbers
and
incidences
of
of
deep
poverty,
with
respect
to
housing
and
homelessness
and
instance
of
living
in
low
income
for
children,
particularly
indigenous
children,
in
the
City
of
Lethbridge.
Y
That
I
have
just
raised
her
with
the
house.
This
bill
leaves
out
the
past
the
years
of
allowing
income,
support
and
assured
income
for
the
severely
handicapped,
the
age
program
and
the
seniors
benefit
to
lose
ground
to
inflation.
So
there
was
really
no
need
for
this
over
time.
It
was
not
a
question
of
of
a
fiscal
rectitude
or
whatever
the
government
might
claim.
Y
Y
Folks,
who
were
at
risk
of
experiencing
homelessness,
we've
seen
that
double
over
this
government's
tenure
in
the
city
of
lesbridge,
and
certainly
when
ones
basic
Assistance
programs,
whether
it's
a
short
income
support
or
not,
keeping
Pace
with
inflation
over
time
that
adds
up,
and
especially
it
starts
to
add
up
when
we're
in
a
year
where
now
we
are
looking
at
a
compounding
40-year,
High
inflation.
Y
So
this
bill
goes
some
way
to
fix
that,
that
is
to
say
it
indexes
these
programs
to
inflation
going
forward,
but
it
does
not
fix
what
was
lost
in
2019
to
now.
For
example,
someone
receiving
a
extra
income
for
this
fairly
handicap
would
be
three
thousand
dollar
better
off
three
thousand
dollars
better
off.
But
we
had
just
continued
with
the
legislation
that
all
UCP
mlas
voted
in
favor
of
in
the
fall
of
2018
and
then
cynically
ripped
away
from
people
in
at
their
first
available
opportunity
in
the
budget
of
2019..
Y
So
that
could
be
fixed
in
this
bill
and
I
think
it
should
be
a
good
faith
attempt
to
really
make
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
in
the
context
of
a
commodity
prices
going
up
as
much
as
they
have.
There
was
one
additional
deposit
in
the
Heritage
funds,
sadly
not
too,
because
of
course,
that
money
gets
saved
in
order
to
be
able
to
fund
future
program,
expenditures
in
health
care,
education
and
Social
Services.
Y
But
this
legislation
could
be
amended
to
to
fix
these.
Essentially,
what
amounted
to
sneaky
income
tax
increases
on
the
personal
income
tax
side,
with
the
failure
to
index
brackets
to
inflation
and,
on
the
other
side,
applying
back
of
benefits,
around
income,
support
and
seniors
benefit,
and
I
will
say
here
that
these
housing
and
homelessness
numbers
shocking
as
they
are
in
these
some
child
poverty
numbers
that
are
astonishing,
particular
incidents
of
poverty
among
indigenous
children
in
in
Lethbridge.
Y
A
restoration
is
around
that
housing
supplement
for
income
support
recipients
which
has
been
cut
and
I
think
that
is
part
of
what
has
led
to
so
many
people
are
living
in
unsheltered
homelessness
in
Lethbridge,
which
is
a
massive
issue
in
our
city
and
one
that
remains
not
even
grappled,
with
let
alone
having
a
strategic
plan
to
to
address
it
from
the
UCP
government
now
and
so
I
I'll
begin
with
that
piece
of
the
legislation
which
I
think
is
in
many
ways
my
my
most
effusive
praise
foreign
indexing.
Those
programs
going
forward
rates
are
wrong.
Y
It
was
wrong
to
I
pause
that
that
indexation
on
the
backs
of
people
who
can
least
afford
it,
and
it
was
wrong
to
delay
and
delay
and
delay,
and
it
it
is,
remains
wrong.
Not
to
do
it
retroactively.
Y
But
secondly,
we
have
these
this
other
matter
of
the
100
a
month
payments
to
people
with
children-
and
you
know
I'm
thinking
here
as
my
friend
Curtis
Noble,
who
was
in
the
ICU
currently
in
Medicine
Hat
and
his
three
kids
and
I
think
you
know,
because
I
know
he
was
off
I
I
off
work
for
a
little
while
and
and
I
know
he
was
getting
treatment
for
PTSD
and
I
was
really
proud
of
him
for
that,
when
we
last
talked
about
it,
I
think
in
June
and
I
said
you
know
you're
gonna
rock
this.
Y
You
can
do
this.
You
know,
there's
a
life
Beyond,
a
PTSD.
The
post
is
the
first
word
in
that
that
acronym
for
a
reason
and
so
I
think
of
families
like
his,
and
you
know
that
hundred
dollars
a
month
per
child
for
for
six
months,
probably
helped
quite
a
bit
when
you're
off
on
when
you're
off
work
and
you've
got
three
kids
and
the
cost
of
living.
You
know
we
all
know
it
has
gone
pretty
bananas,
you
know,
maybe
not
when
you're
buying
bananas
in
the
grocery
store.
Y
Those
have
remained
fairly
stable,
but
I,
don't
know
if
anybody's
had
a
look
at
the
price
of
eggs
lately
or
depending
on
where
you
go.
I
noticed
that
one's
moderated
a
little
bit,
but
certainly
there
have
been
many
many
things
where
I'm
going
through
at
my
usual
I.
Try
to
do
it
online
still
because
of
time.
My
grocery
order,
where
I
just
go
whoa,
you
know
some
things
have
really
gone
up.
Y
Even
potatoes,
I
I,
curiously
have
gone
up
quite
a
bit,
so
I
can
imagine
that
you
know
families
are
going
to
be
really
looking
forward
to
these
cash
payments.
But
you
know
this
is
a
program
that
leaves
out
nearly
2
million
albertans.
Y
A
few
weeks
back,
it'll
be
almost
three
to
four
weeks
from
now
and
the
introduction
of
this
bill,
and
during
that
time
they
could
have
gone
back
to
the
drawing
board
given,
as
we
know
that
within
the
documents
within
the
the
mid-year
fiscal
update
within
some
of
the
costing
for
these
programs
and
for
this
bill,
which
has
been
a
little
bit
confused
and
it's
been
a
bit
tough
to
entangle
whether
the
government
actually
knows
how
much
they're
spending
on
these
initiatives,
but
they've
got
a
sort
of
line
item
in
there
and
they
keep
sort
of
saying
oh
yeah,
future
Provisions.
Y
Future
Provisions
albertans
know
that
that
means
closer
to
the
election,
and
certainly
there
was
a
Leisure
survey
that
indicated
that
in
particular
people
in
Calgary
I
saw
this
program
as
a
bit
of
a
cynical
Ploy,
but
be
that
as
it
may,
a
lot
of
families
do
need
it.
Even
though
I
think
people
recognize
it
for
what
it
is.
But
there's
there's
an
initial.
Y
It
says
their
provision
for
more
initiatives
and
I.
Think
it's
a
it
comes
in
sums
to
about
1.3
billion.
If
I'm
not
wrong,
like
I
said
it.
I
I
will
provide
more
at
a
different
time.
Thank
you.
The.
V
Thank
you,
madam
speaker,
I'm
honored,
to
be
able
to
rise
today
to
be
able
to
speak
to
Bill
two,
the
inflation
relief
statutes,
Amendment
act,
2022
and
I
do
so
with
great
excitement
because
of
the
relief
that
I
know,
this
is
going
to
create
for
albertans.
Specifically,
this
act
will
have
an
impact,
especially
on
low-income
seniors,
those
living
with
disabilities
and
others
that
rely
on
social
benefit
programs
like
aish,
senior
benefit
and
income
support.
V
I
can
tell
you,
after
spending
almost
the
entire
summer
door,
knocking
and
connecting
with
many
of
my
constituents
at
the
door
became
increasingly
apparent.
The
challenges
that
many
in
our
community
are
facing,
especially
folks
on
on
fixed
income,
is
life,
is
slowly
but
surely
become
unaffordable,
forcing
folks
into
situations
where
they
have
to
choose
between
food
and
rent
or
paying
utilities,
and
so
this
is
timely
and
it's
necessary.
V
When
I,
the
premier
first
won
her
leadership
race.
She
gave
each
of
us
mlas
30
minutes
just
to
to
get
to
know
us
find
out
what
the
issues
are
that
we're
concerned
about,
and
we
then
spent
the
next
45
minutes
discussing
the
challenges
that
we
had
seen
and
that
I
had
been
seeing
on
the
doors
in
Calgary
Klein
and
was
just
so
excited
to
see
that
she
shared
my
heart
and
concern,
especially
for
the
disability,
community
and
and
those
who
work
in
that
sector
as
well.
V
For
me,
this
is,
is,
is
personal.
You
know
my
my
whole
career,
of
course,
I've
worked
in
the
not-for-profit
sector,
but
my
own
family
has
experienced
challenges
over
the
years.
My
own
grandmother
fled
domestic
violence
and
ended
up
in
a
situation
where
she
was
trying
to
raise
her
two
sons
alone
and
the
challenges
that
came
with
that
my
father
was
homeless.
V
Of
course,
as
a
teenager
and
I
took
a
full
community
coming
around
him
to
help
him
overcome
that
and
the
opportunity,
then,
for
him
to
be
able
to
go
pay
that
forward
and
as
all
six
of
us
boys
have
worked
in
the
social
sector,
this
is
close
to
our
heart
and
I.
Believe
that
this
is
no
different
for
the
disability
community
that
relies
on
programs
like
Ace
assured
income
for
the
severely
handicapped
as
well
as
PDD.
V
What
we've
seen
is
cost
of
living
just
slowly
rising
and
making
things
more
and
more
difficult
for
people
is,
affordability
gets
less
and
less
for
folks
in
our
community,
and
so
this
is
why
you
know.
For
a
long
time,
I
I
have
been
a
an
advocate
for
for
indexing
of
these
supports.
You
know,
as
members
mentioned
across
this
shouldn't,
be
something
that
we
have
to
revisit
every
eight
years
to
come
back
and
beg
the
government
for
a
bump
up,
but
something
that
keeps
up
with
inflation
as
we
move
forward.
V
I
am
struck
by
the
the
level
of
cynicism
from
the
other
side
in
regards
to,
and
I've
heard,
a
few
comments,
not
just
today,
but
a
debate
on
a
different
day
about
how
we're
doing
this
six
months
before
an
election,
and
that
this
is
somehow
some
sort
of
ploy
to
get
re-elected
and
I
just
need
to
remind
members
across
that
they
didn't.
They
didn't
index
H
and
other
supports
until
five
months
before
the
election.
V
So
I'd
like
to
throw
it
right
back
at
them
and
maybe
have
them
answer
that
was
that
just
a
ploy
to
to
win
votes
or
was
it
doing
what
was
necessary
to
make
sure
that
we
were
helping
people
in
the
community
and
I
would
suggest
and
hope
that
it
was
doing
what
was
necessary
to
help
people
in
our
community
for
them
and
for
us
should
we
wait
six
months
until
the
next
election
to
help
albertans
through
this
crisis,
and
the
answer
is
definitely
not
and
that's
why
this
government
is
acting
and
it's
acting
now
the
difference,
however
Madam
speaker
between
that
party,
when
they
were
in
government
in
this
party
more
government,
we
are
indexing,
income,
support
and
Senior
Benefits
and
we
have
a
balanced
budget.
V
Our
economy
is
working,
it's
roaring,
we're
seeing
growth
in
sectors
right
across
the
board
and
we've
been
able
to
put
ourselves
over
the
last
three
half
years
into
a
financial
position.
So
the
long-term
viability
of
these
programs
are
not
at
risk
under
that
government
they
were
at
risk.
They
were
at
risk
and,
honestly
I
think
we
have
an
important
question
as
we
approach
an
election.
V
If
we
want
to
make
sure
that
these
programs
can
continue
to
be
indexed
and
that
we
continue
to
have
the
financial
wealth
to
be
able
to
help
support
albertans
that
are
vulnerable
in
our
communities,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
this
government
in
charge.
So
we
can
continue
to
grow
our
economy
and
we
can
continue
to
have
strong
balance
sheets
again.
100
billion
dollars
in
debt
put
these
programs
at
risk,
not
just
only
for
today,
but
into
the
future.
We
need
to
make
sure
sure
that
the
viability
of
these
programs
are
protected.
V
It
was
clearly
outlined
in
my
mandate
letter
just
how
much
of
a
priority
this
was
for
our
government
to
make
life
more
affordable
for
albertans,
especially
for
low-income
and
vulnerable
albertans.
That
is
why
we
were
very
quick
to
increase
benefit
rates
which
thousands
of
albertans
will
see
before
Christmas
Bill
2
has
a
long
list
of
measures
that
will
bring
help
with
affordability.
The
electricity
rebate
has
already
been
in
place
for
for
quite
a
few
months
now
providing
money
relief
for
millions
of
albertans
with
Bill
2
that
is
being
extended
for
another
four
months.
V
If
you
remember
back
for
a
moment
when
the
electricity
rebate
was
being
put
in
place,
Dandy
of
course
criticized.
This
is
a
fake
rebate.
500
dollars
does
not
sound
like
a
fake
rebate.
To
me,
Madam
chair
our
speaker.
Sorry,
that's
that's
very
real.
Absolutely
500
is
going
to
make
a
significant
impact.
I
know
for
my
constituents
again
is
they
have
to
make
those
difficult
decisions?
V
What
I'm
getting
at
is
that
the
NDP
enjoys
creating
a
lot
of
fear
and
it's
what
it's,
what
they
know
best
at
the
end
of
the
day
when
the
government
makes
an
announcement
that
we
are
providing
600
in
relief,
people
are
happy,
because
that
is
something
that
is
going
to
make
real
change
for
them
and
their
families
I'd
like
to
take
just
a
couple
minutes
to
shift
gears
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
Alberta's
relationship
with
Ottawa
now,
obviously,
Albert
Alberta
has
not
the
only
place
in
Canada.
V
That's
facing
an
affordability
crisis,
fuel
utilities
groceries
they
are
all
more
expensive
across
this
entire
country.
Here
in
Alberta,
it
is
unrealistic
to
think
that
anything
the
provincial
government
is
able
to
do
can
fix
the
Nationwide
inflation
crisis.
However,
we
are
able
to
provide
support
for
those
that
have
been
impacted
and
we're
doing
that.
Additionally,
we
can
call
on
the
federal
government
to
fix
the
problems
that
they've
created.
V
I
just
talking
about
the
the
13
cents,
a
leader
off
the
gas
tax,
and
maybe
we
flipped
that
and
have
a
conversation
about
if
this
government
was
putting
forward
a
bill
in
this
legislature
right
now
to
actually
increase
the
gas
tax.
Could
you
imagine
if
we
were
doing
that
right
now?
Having
a
discussion
about
increasing
the
gas
tax?
V
I
am
90
sure
that
the
members
opposite
would
would
be
losing
their
minds,
and
rightly
so,
because
right
now
we
should
not
that's.
The
last
thing
that
we
should
be
doing
is
increasing
taxes
on
albertans,
especially
on
gas
taxes,
because
we
know
that
the
higher
cost
of
gas
tax
has
a
significant
impact
on
the
cost
of
everything.
So,
of
course,
it
would
be
utterly
absurd
if
we
were
sitting
here
right
now
talking
about
increasing
the
gas
tax,
but
the
reality
is.
V
The
federal
government
has
just
done
that
with
the
carbon
tax
and
by
doing
that,
they
have
increased
the
cost
of
everything.
But
now,
if
we
were
increasing
the
gas
tax
on
99
sure,
we
would
be
hearing
a
lot
of
noise.
From
the
other
side,
the
federal
government
increases
gas
tax,
not
a
peak,
not
a
peep,
actually
I
I,
Madam,
speaker,
I'm,
hearing
members
opposite
defending
their
good
friend
and
Ally
Justin
Trudeau
and
his
carbon
tax
policy
and
and
their
Federal
leader
Jack
mate
sink.
V
V
Madam
speaker
Bill,
two
is
is
an
example
of
a
government
taking
an
approach
that
will
ensure
those
who
need
it
are
going
to
get
the
support
that
they
need.
We
see
the
need,
we
are
addressing
it.
In
addition
to
this
bill,
our
government
has
also
put
20
million
dollars
in
support
for
food
banks
over
the
next
two
years.
V
During
the
pandemic,
we
were
the
first
government
in
recent
history
to
financially
support
food
banks.
In
Alberta,
we
provided
six
million
dollars
to
help
restock
shelves
during
the
pandemic,
make
sure
that
albertans
didn't
go
hungry,
Mr
Speaker,
that
is
26
million
dollars
more
than
the
previous
government
ever
spent
on
food
banks.
So
I
do
not
believe
that
they
have
credibility
to
be
able
to
criticize
this
action.
V
V
V
V
AC
Thank
you
very
much
Madam
speaker
my
pleasure
to
rise
and
listen
to
Bill,
2
and
or
speak
to
Bill,
2
and
and
comment
on
some
of
the
previous
speakers
comments
with
this
bill,
and
it's
it's
interesting.
AC
Madam,
speaker
and
I
will
always
find
debate
in
this
chamber,
interesting
that
there
are
so
many
differences
of
of
opinion
of
what's
said
in
this
chamber,
but
I
want
to
start
off
talking
about
so
so
I'll
lay
at
the
onset
or
layout
that
there
are
some
measures
in
this
bill
that
I
can
get
behind
that
I
can
support.
AC
Specifically
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
affordability
crisis
that
currently
exists
in
Alberta
and
the
approach
that
this
current
government
took
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
when
they
first
formed
government,
there's
a
number
of
measures
that
actually
increased
costs
on
everyday
albertans
because
of
programs
that
the
government
brought
in
you
know
the
one
of
the
first
things
this
government
did
was
de-index
H
in
2019..
AO
To
The
Honorable
member
I
I
hear
you
speak
about
recipients
of
age
falling
further
and
further
behind
these
are
people
that
you
talk
to
on
a
regular
basis.
Can
you
just
expand
a
little
bit
on
what
that
actually
looks
like
what
that
means
to
fall
behind?
We
know
that
so
many
are
struggling
and
it's
not
a
simple
thing
as
not
being
able
to
do
luxurious
things.
AO
It's
it's
quite
devastating
to
hear
the
stories
of
those
people
that
are
being
impacted,
we're
hearing
stories
about
people
not
being
able
to
afford
rent
and
groceries
and
those
types
of
things
and
I
would
love
for
The
Honorable
member
to
be
able
to
share
a
little
bit
about
those
details
and
those
personal
stories
that
he's
hearing
from
his
constituents.
Thank
you.
AC
Yeah,
thank
you
to
my
colleague
at
The,
Honorable
member.
You
know,
we've
heard
I've
heard
a
number
of
of
stories
of
folks
that
have
you
know
again.
You
know,
people
that
are
are
on
age,
receive
a
very
modest
amount
that
covers
off
all
of
their
necessities
and
so
the
the
challenge
when
this
government
de-indexed
it
is,
we
were
starting
to
see
inflation
grow
at
at
quite
a
rapid
Pace.
AC
But
you
know
to
the
minister
who
spoke
before
me:
I
mean
he
talked
about
some
of
the
comments
that
our
side
has
made
around
the
electricity
rebates
and
how
little
the
amount
was
where
the
minister
was
claiming.
Well,
no,
it's
it's!
You
know.
500
over
five
months
is
substantial.
Well,
you
know
for
a
person
on
H
that
is
probably
even
more
impactful.
AC
We
know
that
every
dollar,
especially
for
for
low-income
albertans,
that
they
can
either
keep
in
their
pockets
or
that
you
know
through
supports
from
the
government
that
can
increase,
makes
a
significant
difference.
Madam
speaker
in
their
lives,
and
so
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
I
mean
I
appreciate
the
members
saying
you
know.
One
of
our
criticisms
is
that
this
is
coming
in
six
months
before
the
election.
AC
I
just
think.
That's
an
interesting
coincidence,
we'll
leave
it
to
albertans
to
decide.
I
mean
I,
appreciate
the
fact
that
that
our
indexing
came
in
in
a
similar
type
of
window,
I
mean
what
I
will
say
on
that
and
and
part
of
the
reason
that
I
support
this
element
of
the
bill.
Is
that
I'm
glad
it's
being
brought
in
regardless
of
when
it's
being
brought
in
it's
a
positive
step.
AC
It
doesn't
eliminate
a
frustration
that
I
have
that
this
government
eliminate
like
de-indexed
H
in
2019,
and
you
know
I,
can
appreciate
how
cabinet
and
executive
Council
Works.
You
know.
My
hope
is
that
some
of
the
members
opposite,
including
the
minister
because
of
his
background
and
his
experience,
would
have
spoken
out
against
the
former
Premier
saying
we're
going
to
de-index
H
now
I'm
not
privy
to
those
caucus
meetings,
but
it's
it's
frustrating
to
hear
that
three
years
later,
the
same
group
of
people
who
were
government
that
de-indexed
age
are
now
saying.
AC
Yes,
we're
behind
this,
it's
great
well,
where
was
that
Vigor?
Where
was
that
that
persuasive
standing
up
for
the
people
on
H
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
but
I
mean
I'll,
leave
this
so
as
far
as
the
bill
goes,
I've
laid
out
my
concerns
with
over
the
past
three
years.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
that
it's
in
this
bill
that
it's
being
indexed
I
wish.
The
government
would
consider
some
type
of
measure
to
help
support
Ace
recipients
for
that
loss
of
of
indexation
over
the
past
three
years.
AC
I
can
tell
you
that
if
it
was
possible
for
the
government
to
bring
in
some
kind
of
amendment,
opposition
cannot
because
that
would
require
dollars.
Then
that
would
be
greatly
appreciated
and
I
think
the
government
would
have
the
opposition's
support
in
doing
that.
I
think
it
would
be
fairly
nominal,
quite
frankly,
we're
talking
about
not
nominal
but
a
smaller
amount,
because
we're
talking
about
inflation
over
three
years,
but
I
put
that
on
the
record.
So
you
know
appreciate
this.
AC
This
debate,
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
other
challenges
and
it's
interesting,
Madam
speaker
that
you
know
being
in
this
place.
You
really
learn
how
people's
brains
work
and,
as
far
as
you
know,
on
this
side
of
the
house,
we
had
raised
the
alarm
Bells
around
bracket
creep
when
the
current
government
increased
personal
income
taxes.
Now
we're
talking
semantics
now
and
so
on
this
side
of
the
house.
We
say
the
government
increased
personal
income
taxes
on
that
side
of
the
house.
AC
They
say
no,
we
didn't
we're
just
not
indexing
people's
wages
anymore.
Now
the
irony
in
that
was
that
the
former
premier
railed
against
bracket
creep
when
he
was
the
head
of
the
Alberta
taxpayers,
Federation
or
the
Canadian
taxpayers
Federation,
and
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
double
speak
going
on
when
it
was
not.
Okay
for
governments,
you
know
15
years
ago,
20
years
ago
to
do
that.
Yet
for
this
government
that
was
not
seen
as
an
increase
in
personal
income
taxes
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
call
it
what
you
want.
AC
It
is
an
increase
in
income
taxes
now
again,
I
appreciate
the
government
is
reversing
that
now
different
bill,
but
that
that
does
mean
that
it'll
leave
more
money
in
the
pockets
of
albertans,
which
is
a
positive
thing.
I
mean
I'm.
Sure
all
members
in
this
chamber
hear
about
the
affordability
crisis
everywhere
they
go.
AC
You
know,
quite
frankly,
Madam
speaker,
I
mean
I
too,
am
surprised
when
I
go
and
look
at
at
the
price
of
of
certain
items.
I
know
that
albertans
are
making
choices
of
changing
their
diet
because
they
simply
can't
afford
to
eat
the
way
they
used
to
and
so
action
action
is,
is
needed.
Now
again,
I'll
finish
my
my
comments
about
earlier
decisions.
The
government
made
which
actually
increased
costs
on
albertans
I
mean
in
addition
to
raising
personal
income
taxes.
AC
There
was
a
significant
spike
in
the
increase
in
cost
on
utilities,
Insurance
tuition,
Park
fees,
the
fact
that
the
government
removed
the
drug
coverage
for
seniors
I
mean
I,
think
that's
a
shot
below
the
belt.
Quite
personally
and
the
fact
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
albertans,
do
see
that
you
know
the
the
number
one
outstanding
reason
of
why
there
is
a
surplus
is
because
the
price
of
oil
has
been
much
higher
than
the
government
forecasted
to
which,
of
course,
Alberta
has
zero
influence,
zero
control
over
the
price
of
oil.
AC
AC
What
was
coming
in
under
the
tenure
of
the
NDP,
so
I'll
jump
back
to
the
bill,
because
I
know
my
time
is
running
short,
so
so
the
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
I
have
with
this
and
I'd
love
to
hear
the
minister
or
ministers
get
up
and
speak
on
this,
but
the
whole
payday
lending
scheme
I
appreciate
the
concept
is
to
defer
payments
so
that
albertans
can
pay
later,
which
would
would
save
them
money.
AC
The
problem
is
that
the
people
that
are
still
paying
the
rate
regulation
option
are
going
to
be
shouldering
a
larger
cost
of
those
loans
in
six
months
time
and
that
will
likely
lead
to
higher
and
higher
utility
costs,
and
so
there
is
a
UFC
Economist
who
called
this
idea
a
death
spiral
you're
just
deferring
costs
for
down
the
road.
The
problem
is
the
people
that
are
going
to
Vie
for
this
option
or
choose
this
option.
How
are
they
going
to
afford
those
increased
payments
down
the
road?
It's
it's.
AC
It's
dangerous
in
the
sense
that
it
could
be
setting
them
up
could
be
setting
them
up
to
fail,
and
so
you
know
I
appreciate
the
government
was
looking
for
a
way
to
help
albertans
in
the
immediate
future
for
higher
utility
costs.
I'm.
Just
not
convinced
that
this
is
the
best
mechanism
to
do
that,
and
there's
there's
a
significant
potential
downside
and
significant
risk
that
albertans
are
going
to
be
bearing.
AC
Another
point
that
my
colleagues
have
have
touched
on
is
the
fact
that
the
affordability
measure
or
the
100
a
month
payments
leaves
out
nearly
2
million
albertans
and
and
we're
not
talking
about
albertans,
who
are
earning
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
a
year
and
don't
necessarily
need
that
I'm
not
saying
it
wouldn't
help.
I'm
saying
need
that
in
order
to
continue
to
live
month
to
month.
AC
The
challenge
Madam
speaker
is
for
somebody,
who's
working,
full-time,
a
full-time
minimum
wage
job
does
not
see
any
of
this
relief,
and
we
know
that
if
you're
working,
full-time
minimum
wage
you're
not
making
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
a
year
you're
not
even
making
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
those
the
people
that
are
really
being
squeezed
right
now
when
you've
got
you
know
the
increase
of
costs
of
of
gas
for
driving
you've
got
costs
at
the
grocery
store,
call
increased
costs
and
utilities.
AC
If
those
people
do
for
people
that
do
own
their
homes,
we've
seen
significant
increases
in
mortgage
rates
again
I
appreciate
that's
outside
the
purview
of
the
provincial
government,
but
it's
still
an
increased
cost.
All
of
this
results
in
newer
costs.
I
see
my
colleague
the
member
from
to
Manning
rise.
I'll,
give
way.
AP
Thank
you,
member
and
you
know,
as
as
you
were
speaking
about
mortgage
rates
going
up
and
costs
that
are
going
up
to
albertans.
I.
Think
one
of
the
other
things
that
we're
hearing
about
the
increase
in
Municipal,
Taxes
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
have
any
thoughts
around
what
the
government
could
have
done
in
relation
to
ensuring
that
you
know
local
municipalities
aren't
forced
to
have
to
increase
Municipal
Taxes
on
albertans.
AC
Yes,
thank
you
through
you,
madam
speaker,
to
the
member
for
a
great
question
that
we
we
are
seeing
in
some
jurisdictions,
like
some
municipalities
and
regions
and
communities
in
Alberta
we're
seeing
not
just
double-digit
tax
increases
on
their
Municipal
property
taxes,
we're
seeing
tax
increases,
close
to
20
percent
and
and-
and
you
know
what
Madam
speaker,
I
I,
get
that
the
government
will
will
blame
the
municipal,
counselors
and
leaders
for
the
fact
that
they're,
whatever
they're
going
to
say
pet
projects,
raising
taxes
through
the
roof
municipalities
deliver
90
percent
of
the
services
that
albertans
rely
on
and
receive
10
of
the
funding.
AC
This
is
a
problem
Madam
speaker,
because
the
result
is
that
the
municipal
leaders
are
increasing
taxes
on
albertans
or
on
their
their
constituents,
municipally,
which
means
more
costs,
and
so
it's
once
again
the
provincial
government
is
directly
responsible
for
the
funds
that
go
to
municipalities.
I
mean
the
the
premier
and
the
Finance
Minister
recently
spoke
about
how
municipalities
are
governed
by
The
Province.
They
exist
because
of
the
province.
AC
AC
Now
you
know
I
appreciate
in
this
bill,
Madam
speaker
that
that
there
is
again
the
the
gas
tax
provincial
portion
of
of
the
gasoline
tax
albertans
will
not
have
to
pay
for
six
months.
That
does
help
albertans.
It
did.
We
had
concerns
when
they
first
introduced
this
measure,
but
we
have
seen
some
some
savings
for
albertans,
as,
as
my
colleague
often
points
out
that
the
challenge
with
that
measure
is
it.
AC
AQ
AQ
Wonder
if
you
can
or
mind
the
house
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
changes
that
were
made
with
regard
to
linear
assessments,
for
example,
about
giving
tax
holidays
to
wealthy
corporations,
that
about
increasing
the
costs
on
our
municipalities,
for
having
RCMP
officers
and
actually
diminishing
the
ability
of
municipalities
to
make
decisions
regarding
their
own
budgets
and
budget
increases.
And
you
know
all
of
these
kinds
of
things
that
have
made
life
in
them.
In
the
small
towns
of
this
province.
AQ
Much
more
difficult
to
administer
and
and
and
as
a
result
of
have
have
resulted
in
increased
costs
as
well.
AC
Than
30
seconds
well,
that's
always
a
problem.
What
I
will
say
to
answer
the
member's
question
is
that
costs
for
policing
have
gone
up
significantly
as
the
province
has
pulled
some
funding
for
that
there's
been
challenges
as
well,
with
municipalities,
collecting
money
that
is
owed
to
them,
and
so
Madam
speaker,
I
I.
There
are
elements
to
this
bill,
I,
absolutely
support.
There
are
elements
that
are
challenges,
and
my
hope
is
that
we
will
see
some
progress
to
improve
the
bill.
O
O
Recently
Madam
speaker,
Premier
and
the
ministers
for
affordability
announced
a
2.4
billion
in
inflation
relief
measures
that
will
make
life
more
affordable
for
Alberta
families
before
going
further,
I
would
like
to
upload
Premier
ministers
MLA
and
our
leaders
for
making
difficult
decisions
during
this
unprecedented
times
here,
Madam
speaker
at
this
time.
We
need
to
ensure-
and
let
albertus
know
that
they're
supported
and
protected
by
their
government
as
well
extend
my
appreciation
to
all
walking
albertans
families,
children
seniors
now,
most
vulnerable
populations
that
have
been
under
pressure
from
the
increasing
prices
of
utilities,
food
and
rent.
O
We
can
Albert
is
doing
during
crisis
like
this,
the
one
when
our
financial
house
is
in
order
speaker
over
the
past
couple
of
years.
Our
government
has
worked
tremendously
hard
to
balance
the
budget
and
ensure
what
we
acted
with
speed
to
address
the
economic
consequences
of
the
pandemic.
We
created
a
system
of
supports
for
job
creators
for
families,
businesses,
help
relief
pressure
and
keep
their
doors
open.
O
We
pass
numerous
legislations
revised
many
policies
to
ensure
we
attract
Investments,
which
boost
our
economic
growth
and,
most
importantly,
improve
the
lives
of
all
albertans
Madam
speaker
Calgary
is
is
a
community
that
is
facing
a
lot
of
hardship
from
the
current
inflation.
I
have
spoken
to
many
constituents
these
recent
months
and
hard
time
against
that
life
is
becoming
becoming
financially
challenging.
O
I
was
delighted
to
see
a
British
government
Fund
in
complete
infrastructure
projects
in
Calgary
East,
including
the
revitalization
of
Forest,
Loan,
High,
School
and
Clifton
Manor,
to
ensure
our
children
and
seniors
in
long
term
are
supported
constructions
of
new
playground,
insane
Qatari
and
the
completion
of
journey
to
Freedom
Park
as
well.
Madam
speaker
Calgary,
is
a
growing
Community
with
new
families.
O
Through
many
provincial
government
initiatives
we
were
experiencing
broad-based
investment
and
economic
diversification
in
our
province.
The
Amazon
web
services
announced
its
plan
to
establish
its
second
cloud
computing
Hub
in
Calgary,
amounting
to
4.3
billion
dollars,
while
emphasis
has
recently
opened
this
digital
Center
in
Calgary
and
committed
to
create
thousand
jobs.
Memphis
has
also
opened
their
Canadian
headquarters
this
year
in
Calgary,
with
200
jobs
and
we'll
expand
to
create
thousand
jobs
of
tech.
Jobs.
O
Rbc
has
also
open
attack
Hub
in
Calgary,
which
will
create
about
300
jobs,
while
ey
impressed
with
the
talented
Workforce
opened
in
September
this
year,
new
Finance
Hub
will
create
about
200
jobs
in
Calgary.
Northern
petrochemical
also
announced
a
2.5
billion
dollars
project
in
the
municipal
District
of
green
view,
on
Dow
Chemical
plans
to
work
on
a
project
that
will
be
the
world's
fast
Net
Zero
carbon
emissions
petrochemical
plant,
which
is
predicted
to
cost
about
10
billion
dollars.
O
Another
huge
investment
that
has
landed
in
Alberta
is
Link's
air
Madam,
speaker,
Canada's,
newest,
low-cost
Ali
is
two
wins:
Flair
investors
as
Alberta's
based
Airlines.
These
are
just
some
of
many
investment,
creating
jobs
in
Alberta
and
boosting
our
economy
Madam
speaker,
as
we
saw
the
unemployment
rate
dipped
down
to
5.2
percent
in
October.
We
are
also
seeing
the
continuous
entry
of
job
creators
in
our
Province,
where
the
new
businesses
or
business
expansions
Alberta's
government
is
helping
employees,
employees
create
exciting
futures
for
albertans.
O
My
name
is
Speaker.
Although
Alberta's
economy
has
made
a
solid
comeback,
many
residents
are
still
finding
it
difficult
to
pay
for
food
and
hitting
due
to
the
rising
prices
in
record
inflation.
We
as
a
government
are
unable
to
address
the
inflation
challenges
on
our
own,
but
because
of
us
because
of
our
solid
Financial
standing
and
balanced
budget,
we
are
able
to
provide
significant
assistance
to
albertans
and
their
families
from
the
challenging
times
ahead.
O
Our
current
Focus,
now
Madam
speaker,
is
to
provide
agent
cost
of
living,
supports
and
inflation
reliefs
and
walk
with
our
ministry
to
improve
long-term
affordability,
since
our
vulnerable
populations
are
most
affected
by
Rising
prices
and
soaring
inflation
and
require
greater
support.
I
am
pleased
that
we
are
directing
our
attention
in
providing
supports
to
our
elders,
families
and
vulnerable
groups
that
are
severely
affected.
O
Madam
speaker,
Alberta's
inflation
increased
to
6.8
percent
in
October
from
6.2
percent
in
September.
The
rise
is
brought
by
growing
gas,
electricity,
food
prices
and
Madam
speaker.
Families
with
children
often
spend
a
greater
percentage
of
their
income
on
food,
energy
and
transportation,
and
the
average
income
of
seniors
and
disadvantaged
albertans
is
lower.
O
Every
time
they
fill
up
their
cars
and
Madam
speaker,
families
may
be
secure
in
their
own
ability
to
hit
their
homes
this
winter,
thanks
to
the
National
Cash
rebate,
which
offers
natural
gas
price
protection,
while
focusing
on
providing
extra
Aid
to
families,
elders
and
most
vulnerable
citizens.
I
am
pleased
our
Administration
will
expand
broad-based
services.
Our
government
is
aware
that
the
main
issue
albertans
are
now
facing
is
affordability
and
that
they
are
looking
to
us
to
act
swiftly
to
address
the
Alberta's,
accelerating
cost
of
living.
O
We
aim
to
concentrate
on
areas
where
the
government
can
move
quickly
effectively
to
lower
expenses
for
albertans,
while
also
laying
out
a
better,
more
affordable
future
for
coming
Generations
HPD
PDD
income
support
the
seniors
benefit.
The
Alberta
child
and
family
benefit
extended
fuel
tax
relief
action
on
utilities,
including
increasing
the
electricity
rebate,
targeted
payments
for
families
for
each
child,
seniors
and
vulnerable
albertans
will
all
benefit
during
this
upcoming
months
to
us
assist
albertans
in
hitting
their
homes
in
paying
their
energy
bills.
This
winter,
our
government
is
committed
in
giving
additional
Power
rebate
better
price
protection.
O
We
will
increase
the
power
reimbursement
by
200
this
winter,
providing
a
total
of
five
hundred
dollars
in
repays
throughout
the
life
of
the
program
and
Madam
speaker
more
step.
Steps
to
safeguard
families
from
price
increases
in
electricity,
while
maintaining
the
natural
gas
price
protection
program
are
taken
to
half
all
albertans
and
Madam
speaker.
It
is
wonderful
that
Alberta's
government
has
decided
to
postpone
the
entire
provincial
gasoline
tax
for
at
least
the
next
six
months.
O
Currently,
we
are
just
collecting
a
fuel
tax
of
4.5
cents
per
liter
of
gasoline
and
Diesel,
following
that,
the
province
will
alter
the
provincial
gas
tax
based
on
the
price
of
oil,
as
it
does
under
the
current
relief
plan.
As
a
result,
beginning
January
Fest
albertans
will
save
13.6,
including
GST
per
liter
of
petrol
and
fuel.
O
As
a
result,
many
albertans
will
either
receive
larger
tax
refunds
or
pay
less
in
taxes.
As
a
result
of
2022
indexation,
provincial
tax
rates
will
be
updated
to
reflect
inflation
by
the
government.
With
this
changes,
it
is
less
probable
that
an
employee
who
receives
a
small
wage
increase
May
face
tax
consequences.
O
We
will
keep
our
commitment
to
retroactively,
adjust
personal
income
taxes
to
inflation,
beginning
with
the
2022
tax
year,
and
Alberta's
government
provides
more
than
8.9
billion
in
services
and
supports
to
Alberta
seniors
each
year.
This
includes
financial
support
and
health
benefits,
as
well
as
housing
and
health
supports
for
seniors
with
low
income.
O
These
supports
are
most
of
the
reasons.
Alberta
has
the
lowest
senuous
poverty
rate
in
Canada
and
Madam
speaker,
beginning
January.
The
government
will
re-index
age,
PDD
income
assistant,
the
seniors
benefit
and
the
Alberta
child
and
family
benefit
for
inflation,
making
it
more
even
more
affordable
for
albertans.
O
This
will
make
it
possible
to
adjust
payments
for
inflation
and
provide
benefits
to
assist
fundable
groups
in
paying
their
bills
in
the
face
of
growing
living
expenses,
changes
to
the
Alberta
child
and
family
benefit
age,
the
persons
with
developmental
disabilities
program
and
the
income
support
program,
as
well
as
the
Alberta
seniors,
benefit
Madam
speaker.
This
increased
financial
support
will
happen,
immediate
impact
on
more
than
a
quarter
million
vulnerable
albertans,
including
43
000
children
who
are
dependent
of
age
and
income,
support,
benefit
recipients
and
Madam.
O
AN
AN
Certainly
as
the
title
of
the
bill
indicates,
there
is
some
relief
regarding
you
know
this
inflationary
crisis
that
we
are
in.
Currently
we
know
that
we're
witnessing
the
you
know
greatest
crisis
we've
had
in
in
decades,
and
certainly
it's
important
that
the
government
take
some
responsibility
to
support
its
citizens
regarding
this
time,
so
I'm
pleased
that
the
government
is
bringing
forward
this
bill.
AN
It's
just
that
there
is
some
contradictory
policies
of
this
government
so
as
they
indicate
in
this
bill
that
they
want
to
move
forward,
for
example,
on
index
indexing,
the
Alberta
seniors
benefit.
They
themselves
were
the
government
that
de-indexed
that
benefit
three
and
a
half
years
ago.
So
it's
it's.
AN
You
know
it
concerns
me
that
the
government
is
sort
of
patting
themselves
in
the
back
a
bit
by
bringing
forward
this
legislation,
but
some
of
this
legislation
would
not
have
even
had
to
come
forward
if
the
government
hadn't
done
previous
legislation
that
really
did
hurt
albertans
and
so
I'm
I
must
say
it
is
like
you
know,
they're
doing
one
thing
and
that's
contradicted
to
something
that
they
did
earlier
in
their
mandate.
AN
But
I
do
want
to
just
talk
about
the
responsibility
of
government.
Absolutely
when
there's
events
that
happen
in
our
world
that
are
Beyond
sort
of
individual
responsibility,
you
know
we
can't
control
the
price
of
groceries,
which
is
an
example
of
some
of
the
very
high
inflationary
issues
albertans
are
are
facing.
AN
We
know
that
the
costs
of
utilities
have
gone
up
significantly
at
an
individual
cannot
control
those
things.
Governments
can
influence
those
things.
They
can't
completely
control
them,
but
they
can
make
them
more
reasonable,
so
citizens
can
cope,
can
can
live
with
dignity,
and
this
is
extremely
important
role
of
government
and
certainly
one
of
the
main
reasons,
probably
that
I
got
involved
in
politics
is
because
there
are
so
many
significant
issues
that
citizens
just
can't
manage
by
themselves.
AN
One
of
the
things
that
I,
you
know
disagree
with
about
some
of
the
UCP
and
the
minister
of
seniors
and
Community
Social
Services
just
mentioned
it
is
that
we
can't
pay
for
social
programs.
You
can't
can't
be
for
programs
if
we,
you
know,
don't,
have
a
balanced
budget
and
I
completely
disagree
with
that.
Actually
governments
can
do
that.
They
have
access
to
many
economic
levels
that
individual
citizens
that
don't
that
can
support
people,
and
certainly
that
was
something
that
we
significantly
did
when
we
were
government.
AN
We
know
that
the
oil
and
gas
industry
is
very
important
to
albertans
and
to
our
economy,
to
our
citizens,
and
certainly
we've
had
booms
and
busts
over
many
many
years
in
this
province.
We're
all
familiar
with
them,
and
certainly
when
we
were
government,
the
price
of
oil
was
26
dollars
a
barrel
at
its
lowest,
and
you
know
it's
been
over
a
hundred
during
this
government's
mandate.
So
there's
a
significant
difference
in
Revenue,
especially
because
previous
conservative
governments
had
repeatedly
just
relied
on
the
oil
and
gas
industry
to
get
us
through
it.
AN
It
hadn't
Diversified
the
economy,
and
that
was
something
that
we,
an
NDP
government
aggressively
moved
forward
in
doing,
but
did
we
slash
public
programs
that
citizens
needed,
especially
citizens
who
worked
in
the
oil
and
gas
industry,
because
you
know
their
jobs
had
they'd
lost
their
jobs
oftentimes
and
they
couldn't
didn't?
Have
that
income
to
provide
for
their
families?
Did
we
slash
public
programs?
AN
We
supported
citizens
because
that's
what
good
government
does
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
balanced
budget
to
do
that,
governments
can
do
many
things
with
their
financial
resources
than
an
individual
can't
and
I'm
very
proud
that
our
government
did
that
and
I'm
dismayed
that
this
government
doesn't
see
that
that's
their
role
also,
and
people
have
been
absolutely
suffering
under
this
government
because
of
the
cuts
they
made
when
they
first
came
in
that
they
didn't
have
to
make
and
the
example
I
used
earlier
about
just
the
de-indexation
of
seniors
benefit.
We
know
aish
also.
AN
We
know
that
just
they
didn't
increase
the
tax
brackets
property
taxes
went
up
school
fees,
tuition,
there's
so
many
things
that
this
government
has
done
so
they've
kind
of
created
their
own
difficulties.
AN
But
now,
with
this
bill
too
they're
saying
oh
well,
we're
going
to
give
albertans
some
albertans,
not
not
everyone,
some
albertans,
some
money
to
help
them
because
yeah
we
agree,
there
is
an
affordability
crisis,
but
all
along
they
could
have
been
doing
so
much
more
and
people
could
have
been
supported
quite
quite
well
and
I
speak
every
day
to
albertans
who
are
not
making
ends
meet,
who
are
losing
their
housing.
Who
one
fellow
told
me,
and
he
was
a
senior
he
said,
I
haven't
had
meat
in
months.
AN
I
can't
afford
meat
and
he
relied
on
the
Alberta
seniors
benefit
and
he
relied
on
it,
keeping
Pace
with
inflation,
but
he
hadn't.
He
couldn't
have
a
lifestyle
where
he
ate
meat
because
it
was
too
expensive
for
him.
AN
So
the
UCP
certainly
does
have
a
choice
and
I
think
good
government,
a
compassionate
government
would
actually
buffer
citizens
when
times
are
tough
and
not
focus
only
on
balancing
the
budget,
because
governments
don't
have
to
balance
their
budgets.
They
have
a
lot
of
financial
levers
so
that
they
have
much
more
latitude
to
provide
those
public
programs
and
then
we'd
know
Madam
speaker
that
oftentimes.
When
those
programs
are
provided
when
people
can
live
in
dignity,
people
are
well
housed.
People
can
access
health
care.
AN
People
can,
you
know,
go
to
post-secondary
and
improve
themselves
that
those
actually
save
governments
money,
because
then
they're
not
accessing
those
more
expensive
services
that,
like
Emergency
Medical
Services,
and
we
know
that
providing
a
person,
who's
homeless,
affordable
housing
with
the
proper
supports
costs
less
for
a
government
than
it
does
them
living
homeless.
AN
So
so,
besides
just
the
human
rights
argument
for
providing
public
programs,
there
is
an
economic
argument
and
a
wise
government
would
not
cut
these
programs
in
the
first
place
and
would
provide
albertans
with
this
buffer.
This
support,
because
certainly
I,
feel
like
that's.
The
main
responsibility
of
a
government
is
to
care
for
its
citizens,
and
certainly
I
I
differ
greatly
with
some
of
the
view
of
UCP
members.
In
this
regard,
you
know,
and
I'm
reminded
of
you
know
way
back
when
Premier
Klein
was
in
office.
AN
I
was
a
social
worker
in
child
welfare
and
he
cut
public
programs
by
50
and
he
didn't
have
to
do
that.
He
did
it
because
he
wanted
a
balanced
budget,
and
so
he
said
you
know
he
gets
he'd
slayed
this
dragon
and
it
was
so
great
for
everyone.
It
wasn't
good
for
my
clients,
it
wasn't
good
for
the
professionals
I
worked
with.
It
was
a
select
amount
of
people
who
could
benefit
from
that
kind
of
thing.
So
I
really
questioned
this
premise
of
the
UCP
that
this
is.
AN
W
AR
AO
AO
You
know
we've
heard
from
this
government
for
quite
some
years
now
that
their
intention
of
moving
a
costly,
Provincial,
Police
Force,
despite
opposition,
significant
opposition
from
the
majority
of
albertans
and
municipalities,
have
now
introduced
a
piece
of
legislation
that
really
gives
a
lot
more
control
from
the
government
into
community
policing.
AO
So
we
have
a
piece
of
legislation:
that's
coming
forward
from
a
government
that
we
know
wants
to
go
against
the
direction
of
albertans
and
look
at
a
costly,
Provincial,
Police
Force.
So
this
legislation,
while
there's
pieces
of
it,
that
we
can
100
support,
such
as
civilian
oversight
into
law
enforcement,
there's
so
many
things
glaringly
missing
from
this
piece
of
legislation.
AO
It's
just
a
a
piece
of
legislation
that
some
of
it
is
is
good,
Madam
speaker,
but
there's
there's
so
much
left
unknown
in
this
legislation.
We're
seeing
a
government
that
wants
to
create
a
lot
of
things
that
are
left
to
regulation,
which
is
quite
concerning
knowing
that
the
the
history
that
this
government
has
with
interference
in
in
some
criminal
matters,
some
policing
matters
I,
don't
know
that
albertans
trust
this
government
to
come
up
with
regulations
that
aren't
part
of
this
legislation.
There
are
things
that
should
be
in
this
legislation.
AO
They
just
simply
aren't
available.
So
when
I've
looked
through
this,
you
know
our
government,
the
NDP
started
the
police
act
review
and
we
were
doing
things
like
Consulting
with
albertans.
That
was
a
priority
for
our
government
to
be
able
to
listen
to
those
that
are
involved
in
policing
and
have
feedback
from
those.
Yet
we've
heard
that
some
significant
legislation
has
gone
through
and
with
this
piece
of
legislation
is
intended
to
go
through
without
consultation.
AO
We
heard
from
treaty
six
that
there
was
no
consultation
on
Bill
one,
the
sovereignty
act
that
went
through,
and
now
we've
heard
that
there's
been
no
consultation
on
this
bill.
AO
Now
when
it
comes
to
indigenous
communities,
I
would
argue
that
they
have
some
significant
input
and
voice
that
needs
to
be
at
the
table
when
it
comes
to
policing
in
this
province.
We
have
an
over-represented
community
of
indigenous
people
that
are
in
our
court
systems
that
are
in
our
jails
that
are
being
charged
unfairly,
and
the
fact
that
this
government
has
left
them
out
of
the
conversation
for
the
consultation
for
this
piece
of
legislation
is
quite
concerning
and
I
would
be
curious
to
know.
AO
AO
Power
of
some
significant
impact
on
municipalities
all
across
this
province
when
they're,
looking
at
putting
a
committee
forward
that
I
is
50
supported
by
not
just
supported,
I
would
like
to
retract
that
word.
There's
no
support
indicated
in
here
whether
that
comes
financially
or
what
they
are
going
to
be
appointing
50
percent
of
those
those
boards
and
I
find
that
significantly
concerning
without
adding
the
piece
that
there's
going
to
be
financial
support.
Along
with
that,
we
have
a
government.
That's
saying
we
want
things
to
happen
in
in
the
province.
AO
We
have
a
direction
that
we
want
to
see,
policing
take
and
we're
going
to
appoint.
I've
been
corrected,
49
percent
of
the
the
the
boards,
but
how
we're
going
to
do
that
is
going
to
be
left
in
regulations.
So
knowing
that
there
wasn't
consultation,
that
happened
to
create
this
piece
of
legislation,
I'm
very
fearful.
That
consultation
may
not
happen
when
they're
appointing
the
the
individuals
that
are
going
to
be
on
this.
These
committees
I
know
that
there's
some
significant
concerns
and
questions
when
it
comes
to
the
relationship
that
this
government
has
with
the
RCMP.
AO
Now,
in
the
province
of
Alberta,
we
have
some
wonderful
working
relationships
with
the
RCMP
right
here
in
Edmonton
we
have
the
K
division.
Now
what
is
going
to
happen
when
this
piece
of
legislation
comes
forward?
Will
there
be
any
sort
of
agreement
that
needs
to
change
or
anything
required
formally
with
the
RCMP
K
Division
I?
Can
I
can
speak
from
direct,
experienced
Madam
speaker
when
it
comes
to
working
with
K
Division
I
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
Alberta
ice
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
what
that
is.
AO
It's
the
Alberta
integrated
child
exploitation
unit.
So
it
is
a
provincial
strategy,
an
integrated
unit
that
works
with
the
RCMP,
the
Calgary
police,
the
Edmonton
Police,
the
Lethbridge
police
and
the
Medicine
Hat
police.
So
what
they
do
is
they
directly
work
with
child
luring
over
the
Internet
child,
sex
trade
and
tourism
voyeurism
involving
victims
under
the
age
of
18.
AO
I
would
say
that
this
unit,
that
represents
all
albertans
is
essential
and
I'm
concerned
that
these
well-established
relationships
and
Partnerships
could
be
at
risk
because
of
the
government's
plan
to
come
in
and
start
dictating
their
priorities
to
local
government
to
local
policing.
Now,
as
a
child
welfare
worker
that
worked
as
an
investigator
I
didn't
have
the
expertise
to
work
on
internet
exploitation.
AO
We
were
working
with
criminals
out
of
Florida
that
were
impacting
individuals
in
Edmonton
now
as
a
worker.
Knowing
that
I
could
pick
up
the
phone
and
contact
our
federal
Partners
through
the
rcmpk
division
meant
that
I
knew
I
was
doing
the
best
thing
that
I
could
for
the
families
and
children
that
I
worked
for.
AO
There
are
so
many
relationships
within
the
Police
Service
in
communities
all
across
the
province
that
exist
because
the
community
came
forward
and
said
we
need
this.
This
is
an
area
of
concern
in
our
community
and
we
as
a
community.
A
municipality
have
decided
that
this
is
a
strategy
that
we
would
like
to
to
have
involved
with
the
police.
AO
I
fear
Madam,
speaker
that,
with
this
piece
of
legislation,
Bill
6
that
the
government
is
going
to
come
in
and
start
dictating
what
community
policing
looks
like
I
can
think
in
Edmonton
Castle
Downs.
At
one
point,
we
had
a
net
team,
a
neighborhood
enhancement
team
that
came
about
because
our
community
leaders
through
the
Edmonton
cassadon's
wreck
Society
the
multiple
different
organizations
came
together
and
said.
We
have
a
need.
We
need
some
community
policing.
We
had
a
high
break
and
Enter
space
within
Castle
downs.
AO
We
had
a
lot
of
car
thefts
and
what
the
community
asked
for
was
a
neighborhood
enhancement
team,
and
that
was
provided
because
the
community
came
forward
and
said
this
is
what
we
see
in
our
community.
It
wasn't
the
provincial
government
that
came
in
and
said
this
needs
to
happen.
It
was
a
community
initiative
that
came
forward
and
created
a
wonderful
relationship
with
EPs
and
the
community
leaders
that
were
naturally
there.
AO
I
can
I
can
think
of
some
other
wonderful
relationships
that
have
happened
in
Casa,
Downs
Madam.
Speaker
we
have
some
beautiful
Community
facilities
in
the
Q
in
in
Castle
downs,
we
have
the
Edmonton
Islamic
Academy.
That
is
right
next
door.
We
have
the
al-rasheed
mosque.
That
is
right
next
door
and
we
have
the
castle
Downs
YMCA.
AO
They
were
seeing
that
some
of
the
kids
in
the
community
were
a
little
bit
Restless
and
that
there
were
some
struggles
with
community
policing
in
the
area.
So
what
the
community
did
was
they
came
together
and
had
a
conversation
with
EPS
with
the
hate
crimes
unit
and
with
the
natural
Community
leaders
and
with
support
of
eps
and
the
relationship
building
that
took
place.
They
were
able
to
create
a
wonderful
space
where
youth
could
get
involved
with
eps.
AO
They
were
doing
basketball
games,
they
were
playing
hockey,
they
were
doing
things
that
the
police
and
the
community
said.
This
is
something
that's
needed
to
enhance
and
build
relationship
in
this
community,
and
that
happened
organically,
because
the
community
came
forward
and
said
this
is
what
we
see.
These
are
possible
solutions.
AO
AO
Community
naturally,
did
this
and
I
fear
that,
when
we're
looking
at
a
provincial
government
and
a
minister
that
wants
to
get
directly
involved
and
have
their
hands
on
every
component
of
municipalities
and
communities
across
Alberta
that
we're
going
to
get
further
and
further
away
of
what
communities
actually
need,
they
need
to
feel
heard.
They
need
to
feel
involved.
That's
the
best
way
to
get
buy-in
is
having
all
parties
at
the
table
that
are
directly
involved
coming
up
with
Solutions.
It's
a
simple
mediation
format.
AO
When
you
have
both
sides
represented
equally
sharing
concerns,
you
can
come
up
with
a
beautiful
solution
when
you
have
a
minister
and
a
government
that
is
coming
down
saying.
This
is
what
we
need.
We
need
to
appoint
49
of
those
involved
in
the
communities.
We
are
getting
further
and
further
away
from
Grassroots
community
engagement,
Community
enhancement,
Community
safety,
and
that's
concerning
these
are
things
that
the
government
shouldn't
be
so.
Thank
you
very
much
are.
AQ
Thank
you.
Madam
chair,
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
afternoon
to
Bill
six,
a
bill
which
you
know.
I
have
mixed
feelings
about
a
bit
of
disappointment.
AQ
I
certainly
have
said
in
the
past
that
I
have
some
a
concern
that
at
too
often
when
the
the
UCP
government
has
a
bill
with
some
good
points
in
it,
they
put
something
in
it
that
becomes
a
poison
pill
and
makes
it
impossible
to
support
so
I'm
a
bit
conflicted
over
this
particular
bill,
because
I
think
it
fits
into
that
that
area
but
I,
because
I
do
think
there
are
some
things
that
are
important
here.
That
I'd
like
to
support
and
I,
really
want
to
encourage
the
government
to
find
a
way
to
pursue
them.
AQ
So,
even
if
I
vote
against
this
bill,
I
want
them
to
to
pursue
some
aspects
of
I'd
like
to
address
those
pieces.
First
and
and
I
guess
that
the
the
pieces
that
I
think
are
are
important
and
good
for
this
government
to
proceed
with
are
the
shift
toward
having
increased
citizen
oversight
of
police
forces
in
the
in
the
province.
AQ
The
idea
that
there
will
be
people
who
sit
on
commissions,
who
make
decisions
on
the
local
basis
about
the
nature
of
the
police
and
I
think
is
something
that's
that's
a
good
thing.
I
think
you
know
all
societies
should
have
control
over
their
police
forces
by
the
people
that
are
that
are
being
served
by
the
police
forces,
because
it
just
makes
sense
that
we
need
to
have
civilians,
making
decisions
as
to
the
length
and
the
breadth
to
which
police
can
act
to
control
those
citizens.
AQ
We
don't
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
the
the
power
rests
solely
with
the
police
forces
over
over
citizens.
Such
a
movement
towards
some
kind
of
Citizen
oversight
is,
is
a
good
decision.
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
mechanism
that
the
government
was
put
in,
but
perhaps
I'll
speak
to
my
second
part
that
I
do
really
wish
to
support
in
this
bill
before
I
go
on
to
some
of
my
concerns.
AQ
The
second
thing
that
I
I,
like
is
the
decision
to
actually
move
acert
away
from
its
present
circumstance
under
the
control
of
the
citizen
board
because
I,
you
know,
I,
never
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
police
policing
police
that
yeah
I
think
the
way
that
acert
is
set
up
right
now.
That
is
essentially
current
and
and
retired
police
officers
are
making
the
decisions
about
the
police,
behavior
and
I.
AQ
Just
always
think
that's
problematic
that
that
certainly
should
be
a
role
of
police
officers
and
in
a
certain
describing
you
know,
appropriate
police
procedures
and
the
reasoning
for
them,
and
so
on.
So
I
certainly
want
a
presence
of
of
police
in
helping
to
review
the
behavior.
Please.
AQ
It
also
helps
them
to
understand
where
things
have
gone
wrong,
where
there
are
problems
and-
and
you
know,
hopefully
they
bring-
that
information
back
to
the
police
forces
and
change
Behavior
where
it's
required
to
change,
but
there
should
also
be
a
very
strong
external
review
of
that
kind
of
behavior.
I
know
that
you
know
when
I
was
a
member
of
the
Alberta
College
of
social
workers.
AQ
We
had
a
committee
that
reviewed
social
behaviors
certainly
had
social
workers
on
it,
but
we
also
had
civilians
on
that
that
Review
Committee
to
ensure
that
the
review
that
was
done
by
the
committee
over
the
social
workers
Behavior
was
done
with
an
eye
to
making
sure
that
the
profession
wasn't
simply
protecting
itself
but
was
actually
protecting
the
public
and
I
think.
AQ
So
I
guess
I
I
want
to
say
that
those
those
things
are
are
pieces
of
the
bill.
That
I
hope
will
continue
to
to
move
forward
and
find
some
life
in
in
the
future.
But
there
are
other
parts
of
the
bill
which
I'm
very
very
concerned
about
and
I'm
going
to
divide
that
into
two
pieces.
AQ
One
of
them
is
the
issue
of
control
and
ministerial
control
over
over
the
bill,
and
the
second
piece
is
of
First
Nations
concerned
that
I
I
learned
in
my
meeting
with
the
treaty
six
First
Nations
this
morning
who,
by
the
way,
tell
me
they
do
not
support
Bill
six.
AQ
But
let
me
let
me
go
through
the
first
piece
about
my
own
concerns
about
about
Bill,
six
and
and
talk
about
why
it
is
that
I
am
concerned
about
the
mechanism
of
control
that
is
that
is
being
put
in
here
now,
as
I've
said,
I'd
certainly
happy
to
support
a
citizen,
a
citizen-based
overview
of
police
activities,
but
I'm
very
concerned
in
this
bill
that
all
of
the
decision
making
about
who
sits
on
the
board
goes
back
to
the
minister
again,
and
you
know
many
times
over
the
last
three
years
I've
stood
up
and
said:
why
is
this
government
always
trying
to
take
power
out
of
everybody
else's
hands
and
bring
the
power
back
into
The
Minister's
office,
all
the
time
whether
it
be
about
pensions,
I
was
concerned
about
or
whether
it
be
about
about
health
care
or
in
this
particular
case,
about
policing
Services?
AQ
They.
You
know
that
this
section
of
this
bill,
which
says
this
should
be
about
citizen
oversight,
suddenly
becomes
null
and
void
when
we
realize
that
it's
actually,
the
minister,
that's
making
the
decisions
about
things
and-
and
that
starts
with
the
decision
about
who
sits
on
the
boards
and
the
and
the
fact
that
that
the
the
municipalities
are
directed
to
create
these
boards.
But
the
ministry
gets
to
review
who
the
municipalities
puts
on
the
boards
right.
AQ
AQ
You
know
it
appears
that
even
when
the
municipality
is
is
setting
up
a
board.
My
understanding
and
reading
the
ACT
is
that
the
government
will
actually
be
appointing
50
of
the
members
to
the
board.
So
it
really
isn't
a
municipal
board
that's
being
set
up,
it's
not
local.
The
control
of
this
goes
to
the
provincial
government
and
then,
if
there's
any
problem
with
the
local
board,
it
goes
to
the
provincial
board,
which
is
a
hundred
percent
appointed
by
the
provincial
government.
AQ
So
really,
what
we
have
is
a
as
a
board,
which
you
know,
undermines
municipalities,
efforts
yet
again,
and
we
certainly
have
seen
this
government
make
multiple
decisions
to
undermine
municipalities
over
the
last
number
of
years.
Everything
from
adding
provincial
government
votes
onto
Municipal
elections,
which
they
absolutely
oppose.
AQ
What
this
government
did
anyways
to
giving
tax
holidays
to
you
know
highly
profitable
corporations,
which
caused
grief
for
the
municipalities
to
changing
rules
around
linear
assessment,
which
which
caused
problems
for
the
municipalities
to
to
promising
to
increase
the
number
of
RCMP
officers
and
then
charging
it
all
back
to
the
municipalities
and
then
decreasing
the
municipalities
abilities
to
make
decisions
around
taxation.
AQ
AQ
This
government
is
clearly
moving
to
a
place
where
they
want
the
provincial
government
to
control
all
aspects
of
life
in
this
province.
Don't
want
to
check
and
balance
with
local
authorities
and
I
think
that
that's
very
problematic.
You
always
have
to
question
why
a
government
is
slowly
drying
in
all
the
lines
and
bringing
them
together
and
creating
a
significant
power
in
the
provincial
government
that
used
to
be
more
Diversified
and
more
more
spread
out
around
the
province.
AQ
That's
got
to
be
a
concern
for
all
albertans,
because
it's
first
of
all
unnecessary.
We
certainly
have
seen
this
province
be
quite
successful
with
having
school
boards
actually
have
the
power
to
make
decisions
over
schools
and
we've
seen
municipalities
be
quite
successful
in
making
decisions
over
the
municipalities
and
I
I
think
this
this
is,
you
know
exactly
opposed
to
the
direction
we
were
going
when
we
were
starting
to
talk
with
calgarian
everything
about
having
super
cities.
Initiatives
in
this
province
and
I
think
people
in
this
province
should
be
very
concerned.
AQ
The
number
of
times
I've
had
to
stand
up
and
say
this
is
an
undermining
of
democracy
on
some
level
or
another
that
one
by
one,
you
might
argue
with
me.
Well,
it
wasn't
wasn't
so
much
a
really
a
challenge
to
democracy,
but
when
you
start
to
look
at
the
trend
over
four
years,
a
number
of
times
we've
had
to
say
this
in
some
way
diminishes
the
Democracy.
In
this
case
it
happens
to
diminish
the
Democracy
in
Municipal
governments,
but
we've
said
the
same
thing
with
health
care.
AQ
We
said
the
same
thing
with
with
school
boards
and
and
and
now
we're
saying
this
with
the
police
forces.
AQ
So
I'd
also
like
to
take
some
time
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
it
is
that
the
first
nations
are
concerned
about
this
and
the
number
one
reason
that
the
first
nations
are
are
concerned
is
the
fact
that
it
is
a
shifting
of
power,
Away,
From,
First,
Nations
back
into
the
provincial
government's
hands
yet
again,
and
so
the
same
complaint
that
I
have
from
a
democracy
point
of
view.
The
First
Nations
have,
from
their
democracy
point
of
view,
and
what
they're
saying
is
a
number
of
things.
AQ
First
of
all,
they
know
that
the
government
is
essentially
using
this
bill
as
a
incremental
achievement
of
a
Provincial
Police
Force
that
they're
setting
this
up
so
that
they
can
then
say
we
have
provincial
oversight
of
the
police,
so
we
might
as
well
have
a
Provincial
Police
Force
that
is
reviewed
by
the
same
committee.
We
know
that
this
is
a
step
toward
something
that
has
absolutely
no
support
in
this
project.
No
I
guess
that
no
one
can
ever
say
that
that
has
very
little
support
in
this
province
by
the
citizens.
AQ
People
don't
want
to
Provincial
Police
Force.
The
polls
have
been
very
clear,
but
that
time
and
time
again
yet
this
government
is
pursuing
this
over
and
over
and
over
again,
no
matter
what
they've
been
told,
and
now
the
first
nations
are
saying
we
have
said
we
do
not
want
to
Provincial
Police
Force.
We
want
to
remain
with
the
RCMP.
AQ
Certainly
there's
some
things
they'd
like
to
change,
and
they
talk
to
me
about
that
on
a
very
regular
basis,
but
they
want
to
remain
with
the
RCMP
because
they
of
their
relationship
with
the
federal
government
and
I
know
that
you
know
in
speaking
to
some
of
the
people
at
the
meeting
this
morning
with
treaty,
six
I
was
approached
by
the
CEO
of
one
of
the
corporations
within
3d6.
Who
said
to
me,
you
know:
we've
reviewed
this.
AQ
We
looked
at
this
and
we
can
see
that
having
the
provincial
police
force
is
going
to
cost
this
province
a
lot
of
money,
a
billion
dollars
worth
of
money
over
just
staying
with
the
RCMP.
But
then
he
said
to
me,
but
you
also
have
to
understand
it's
going
to
cost
every
single
First
Nation,
because
right
now
there
is
a
sharing
agreement
of
52
to
48,
sharing
agreement
for
costs
of
RCMP
officers
between
the
federal
government
and
the
the
First
Nations.
AQ
You
know
the
irony
here
is
is
absolutely
incredible.
This
is
a
government
that
brought
in
Bill
one
to
say
we
don't
want
another
jurisdiction
coming
in
and
telling
us
what
to
do
in
our
jurisdiction,
and
now
they
immediately
turn
around
and
introduce
another
bill
that
does
exactly
the
same
thing
to
a
different
government
just
like
they
have
with
municipalities
just
like
they
have
with
school
boards.
This
government
is
constantly
taking
power
away
from
other
democratically
elected
organizations
and
bringing
it
into
themselves,
and
yet
somehow
they
want
us
to
support
a
bill
that
are.
AS
Thank
you,
madam
speaker,
I'm
happy
to
weigh
in
on
the
police
act
amendments
and
just
having
listened
to
Edmonton
Rutherford
for
a
bit
I'd
like
to
just
add
that
if
a
council
is
appointing
members
to
a
commission,
if
it's
one
to
three
members,
then
one
can
be
appointed
by
the
minister.
If
it's
four
to
six
two
can
be
appointed
by
the
minister,
if
it's
seven
to
nine
three
can
be
appointed
by
the
minister,
that
is
not
sound
like
the
province
trying
to
take
power
away
from
local
councils.
AS
Three
first,
those
nations
with
those
Police
Services
were
consulted
on
this
and
Nations
that
are
looking
to
develop
their
own
Police
Services
as
well,
who
are
consulted
by
this,
and
the
other
thing
is
if
you're,
please,
by
the
RCMP.
This
is
increasing
civilian
oversight
to
be
able
to
review
the
policing
priorities
and
the
complaint
process
involved
in
that
and
I.
Don't
see
why.
That
is
an
issue
and
I'd
also
like
to
start
by.
Just
simply
saying
you
know,
thank
you
to
our
Police
Service
Community
I
was
a
police
officer
for
10
years.
AS
AS
Their
families
are
there,
their
kids
are
there,
and
so
they
are
just
as
interested
in
a
well-pleased,
safe
community
that
has
a
low
amount
of
crime,
as
anybody
else
is
and
I
think
that
this
act
in
updating
the
police.
Act
is
a
good
step
forward.
I
I
think
the
objection
so
far,
I
I
think
I
can
easily
disregard
them.
Yesterday,
I
think
it
came
from
one
of
the
NDP
members
that
this
was
the
politicization
of
policing,
which
I
think
is
a
ridiculous
comment.
AS
Frankly,
given
that
at
the
Coots
border
crossing-
yes,
there
was
an
illegal
blockade,
but
the
member's
office,
it
would
have
had
the
RCMP
charging
into
a
dangerous
situation
situation
that
they
knew
was
quite
dangerous,
putting
both
civilians
and
the
police
service
at
risk
and
not
giving
them
the
time
that
they
needed
to
properly
deal
with
that
which
they
clearly
showed
that
they
could
without
the
emergencies
act
as
well.
They
just
needed
a
little
bit
more
time
frankly,
but
what
I'm
enjoying
that
I
can
see
here
is.
AS
Increased
oversight
is
important
to
have
that
independent
body
taking
in
police
complaints
or
complaints
against
the
police.
Sorry
and
making
sure
that
it's
a
Central
Central
agency
that
people
across
the
province
understand
what
that
looks
like
and
what
it
is,
how
to
file
a
complaint.
What
the
expectations
are
I
think
is
important.
I,
don't
equate
that
with
a
Provincial,
Police,
Service
I
think
it's
just
important
that
wherever
you
live
in
this
province,
that
you
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
expectations
of
police
are
and
if
you
have
a
complaint,
you
know
how
to
do
that.
AS
More
civilian
involvement,
I've
touched
on
that
I
think
that
that's
important
setting
the
the
process
and
oversight
civilian
involvement
is
necessary
because,
frankly,
if
you
don't
have
the
support
of
the
community
you're
not
going
to
be
successful
in
policing,
police
agencies
know
this
and
they
know
that
without
the
support
they
are
not
going
to
have
the
same
same
success
and
investigations
that
that
they
would
like.
So
that's
always
important.
This
bill
also
touches
on
diversity,
which
is
also
extremely
important.
Our
communities
are
becoming
more
and
more
diverse.
AS
I
can
tell
you
on
numerous
occasions,
relied
on
other
members,
language
ability,
cultural
knowledge
as
well
to
help
diffuse
situations
and
to
communicate
with
people
that,
where
English
was
that,
maybe
their
second
third
language
or
further
down
the
list
where
I
could
I
was
had
my
eyes
open
to
maybe
something
cultural
that
I
didn't
know.
So
I
could
better
understand
the
community
and
and
work
with
other
members.
AS
That
is,
that
is
growing,
I
think
quite
a
bit.
I
think
Police
Services
have
realized
for
a
while
that
they
need
to
have
more
diversity
in
their
hiring,
and
that
is
occurring
as
well
as
far
as
I
understand
too,
that
this
review
yes
started
under
the
NDP
in
2018
has
been
has
been
years
in
the
making
as
well,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
stakeholder
involvement
has
occurred.
AS
A
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
has
gone
into
this,
and
so
I'm
happy
with
The
Minister's
changes
and
what
they've
brought
forward
as
well
as
the
expanded
role
of
acert
into
investigating
any
complaints
or
serious
complaints
brought
forward
about
peace
officers.
I
think
is
an
important
step.
I
think
Acer,
it's
a
it's
an
excellent
organization.
AS
I,
don't
have
the
same
objection
to
to
them.
Investigating
complaints.
I.
Think
acert
is
an
organization
frankly
that,
if
you're
in
trouble-
and
they
are
looking
into
you,
they
will
find
out
what
happened.
They're
they're
a
very
skilled
group
of
people
who
are
very
dedicated
to
finding
the
truth
and
also
using
independent
prosecutors
from
other
jurisdictions,
to
review
their
work
and
to
recommend
charges,
as
well
as
another
added
step
in
that
process.
AS
So
just
trying
to
see
what
what
else
I
have
in
my
notes,
Here
as
to
as
to
what
I
can
cover
off
I
think
I've
gone
through
most
of
the
was
there
an
intervention.
AT
A
member
yeah
member
from
Laduke
Beaumont,
you
know
again
I-
think
you've
quite
well
articulated
what
the
intent
is
of
the
ACT.
We've
listened
to
a
ton
of
rhetoric
from
the
other
side.
So
thanks
for
dispelling
that,
on
a
personal
note,
since
you
and
another
member
of
our
our
team
here
were
members
before,
can
you
expand
a
little
bit
if
you
would,
in
that
personal
element
of
how
it
makes
the
front
line
police
services
feel
when
you've
got
a
group?
That's
toting
the
bandwagon
to
defund
the
police.
AS
Absolutely
and
when
the
rhetoric
of
defund
the
police
carries
over
from
the
United
States
and
into
here,
it's
demoralizing
I
I
mean
there's
no
way
around
that.
You
know
even
comments
where
I,
don't,
however,
they
were
phrased
frankly
sounds
like
police
were
unfairly
charging.
Specific
communities
is
what
I
I
think
I
just
heard:
I
won't
expand
more
on
that
or
or
that.
Somehow
you
know,
police
are
targeting
specific
communities.
AS
I
think
that
these
are
inflammatory
comments,
which
really
goes
against
what
the
vast
vast
majority
of
police
officers
are
trying
to
do
every
day,
which
is
just
make
their
Community
safer,
who
phones,
9-1-1
in
the
non-emergency
line
and
who
they're
filing
a
complaint
against,
is
not
up
to
the
officers
right
so
they're
responding,
two
calls
based
on
what
citizens
have
have
brought
forward.
Police
officers
aren't
responsible
for
who
is
incarcerated
either.
If
you
think
there's
a
particular
group
over
represented
in
jails,
I
would
go
talk
to
the
judges
they
sentence.
AS
They
remand
that
is
not
up
to
police
officers.
To
do
that.
So
I
I
think
it's
it's
important
to
remember
in
all
professions
that
there
are
people
who
cause
problems.
No
profession
is
spared
from
that
includes
doctors
and
nurses
and
teachers.
Politicians,
even
we
all
know
that
from
question
period,
a
little
bit
earlier,
that
it
exists
in
every
profession
and
the
mechanism
should
exist
for
people
to
be
able
to
file
complaints,
to
have
their
complaints
taken
seriously
and
investigated
in
an
unbiased
way
and
to
make
sure
that
public
trust
is
maintained.
AS
There
are
lots
of
interactions
that
occur
between
police
and
and
citizens
all
day,
there's
probably
been
a
couple
hundred
since
I
started
talking
across
this
province.
They
are
not
all
going
to
result
in
complaints
against
the
police,
and
not
all
those
complaints
are
serious
in
nature
either.
So
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
that
police
officers
are
more
and
more
coming
from
more
diverse
backgrounds
that
the
police
are
trying
to
evolve.
AS
If
we
always
talk
about
it
from
The
Stance
of
it
being
negative,
then
of
course
you
know,
people's
perception
publicly
will
be
negative
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
cognizant
of
how
many
officers
are
out
there
every
day
doing
the
best
they
can,
who
would
probably
do
absolutely
the
best
job
without
the
police
act.
Frankly,
they're,
just
ethical
they're,
moral
people
who
are
trying
their
best
and
we
do
need.
We
do
need
rules,
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
don't
need
it.
AS
B
B
B
D
B
B
B
B
U
U
This
is
an
important
bill,
Mr
Speaker-
and
it's
not
just
me
that
says
so
folks
are
speaking
out
who
have
been
involved
in
the
tracking
and
quality
of
our
Health
Care
Health
Care
Professionals,
who
are
out
on
the
front
lines,
are
speaking
out
in
favor
of
this
act.
Now,
interestingly,
the
minister
of
Health
did
not
speak
in
favor
of
this
act
before
he
moved
a
motion
to
delayed
debate,
I'm
glad
that
the
government
has
reversed
on
that
and
is
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
actually
hold
this
debate
now.
U
But
what
the
minister
said
was
the
minister
suggested
that
this
wasn't
necessary
now
what
this
bill
does
is.
It
proposes
a
set
of
specific
service
standards
to
be
set
working
with
patients
communities,
health
providers
that
the
government
would
be
accountable
to
meet
they'd
relate
to
access
to
health
care
services
and
would
be
publicly
reported.
U
So
what
this
bill
is
proposing
is
a
very
clear
and
specific
set
of
standards
that
provides
that
public
accountability
and
transparency.
Now
what
we
have
seen
repeatedly
with
this
government
Mr
Speaker,
is
that
they
are
very
fond
of
cherry
picking,
very
specific
statistics.
We
saw
that
in
the
McKinnon
report.
We
saw
that
again,
as
they
talked
about
the
Ernst
young
review
of
Alberta
Health
Services.
U
But
the
fact
is
Mr
Speaker
again
they
are
choosing
very
particular
data
and
they
are
handling
it
themselves.
And
indeed,
we
hear
that
from
the
ministry
when
he
stands
and
talks
about
the
number
of
doctors
and
nurses
in
Alberta
and
doesn't
go
into
the
actual
things
that
lie
behind
that.
The
fact
that
he's
talking
about
the
numbers
of
doctors
registered
not
the
actual
numbers
of
doctors
that
are
actually
necessarily
practicing
and
building.
U
Of
course,
the
minister
has
the
information
on
the
number
of
doctors
that
are
building
in
the
province
of
Alberta,
and
he
could
certainly
choose
to
make
that
public
and
tell
us
exactly
how
many
family
physicians
are
billing
on
behalf
of
albertans.
But
he
does
not
do
that
because
it
does
not
serve
the
government's
purpose.
U
Some
very
clear
standards
on
our
Health
Care
system
and
I
would
think
that
any
government
that
truly
believes
in
transparency
and
accountability
would
want
to
see
that
and
that
power
would
be
placed
in
the
hands
of
the
Health
Quality
Council
of
Alberta
and
I.
Think
that's
a
very
important
opportunity
for
us
to
empower
the
hqca
to
handle
that,
and
they
are
well
equipped
to
do
so.
And
do
a
certain
and,
to
be
honest,
Mr
Speaker
they
used
to
have
much
more
independent
power
to
do
so
before
this
government
passed
bill.
30.
U
He
notes
that
for
the
20
billion
dollars,
or
so
that
we
spend
on
Health
Care
in
Alberta,
we
have
precious
little
easily
access
reporting
on
how
well
our
Health
Care
system
and
the
entities
that
comprise
or
perform
and
setting
and
Reporting
on
standards
makes
good
sense.
No
one
would
run
a
20
billion
dollar
Business,
Without
measurement
and
Reporting
as
to
how
well
it
meets
its
goals.
U
What
Bill
201
says
is:
let's
work
together,
let's
work
with
Community,
let's
work
with
Physicians,
let's
work
with
the
folks
who
are
involved
and
who
have
a
stake
in
this
to
determine
what
the
regular
reporting
should
be
to
albertans,
on
which
standards
and
the
standards
specifically
on
access
to
care,
Mr
Speaker,
because
that
is
the
crisis
we
have
in
front
of
us
where
albertans
cannot
access
a
family.
Physician
albertans
have
trouble
accessing
and
emergency
room
they're
having
a
real
crisis
right
now
accessing
pediatric
care,
and
certainly
we
are
all
aware
of
the
challenges.
U
As
Dr
Freeman
says,
the
hqca
is
underused.
It
is
underfunded
and
burdened
by
its
current
report
in
relation
to
the
minister
of
Health
indeedy
speaks
about
during
his
time
as
chair
how
many
times
they
were
stymied
by
the
bureaucracy
within
the
mid,
the
office
of
the
minister
of
Health,
the
first
Ministry
of
Health
under
this
government,
and
made
it
more
difficult
for
them
to
actually
be
able
to
report
and
do
their
work
on
behalf
of
albertans.
U
Foreign,
so
I
believe
this
is
incredibly
important.
Now
the
minister
of
health
and
the
premier
have
also
made
claims
that
putting
forward
Bill
201
would
forbid
would
stop
the
province
being
from
being
able
to
make
use
of
charted
surgical
facilities.
That
is
patently
untrue.
Mr,
chair
speaker,
what
the
bill
does
say
is
that
if
a
minister
puts
forward
an
action
plan,
it
has
to
do
that.
U
Action
plan
needs
to
look
at
investing
in
the
Public
Health
Care
system
to
address
the
issue,
so
it
does
not
affect
any
current
funding
for
a
chartered
surgical
facility,
and
certainly
we
have
a
number
of
them
that
are
operating
today
and
nobody
is
proposing
that
we
stop
making
use
of
them.
We
recognize
that
we
have
real
challenges
in
our
Public
Health
Care
system,
with
meeting
surgical
wait
times,
and
we
must
use
every
resource
that
we
have
at
our
disposal.
U
However,
Mr
Speaker
this
government
has
yet
to
provide
any
evidence,
kinds
of
efficiencies
that
can
be
realized
in
a
standalone
surgical
facility,
not
attached
to
a
hospital,
cannot
be
achieved
within
the
Public
Health
Care
System,
just
as
well,
if
not
better
than
by
a
private
provider.
Who
also
then
has
to
find
a
way
to
make
a
profit.
U
Multiple
folks
have
stood
up
and
pointed
this
out.
In
fact,
we
have
an
example
of
just
such
a
standalone
surgical
facility
attached
to
the
Royal
Alex
hospital
here
in
my
constituency,
and
if
this
government
has
any
evidence
that
they
are
unable
to
provide
surgeries
as
efficiently
at
that
site
and
as
cost
effectively
as
any
of
these
private
charged
surgical
facilities,
this
government
is
intent
on
proliferating
across
the
province
of
Alberta
I
would
invite
them
to
present
it,
because
that
is
what
we're
asking
here
in
Bill
201.
Let's
just
simply
put
the
evidence
on
the
table.
U
This
government
has
a
good
deal
of
ideology
around
Health,
Care,
Mr,
Speaker
and
again
they
like
to
pick
and
choose
their
numbers
to
justify
it,
and
what
we
are
seeing
right
now
is
the
result
of
a
lot
of
that
ideology.
Unfortunately,
with
the
pressures
and
the
impacts
on
our
health
care
System,
their
war
on
doctors,
their
war
with
so
many
other
health
care
workers
and
again
the
minister
would
stand
and
say
well,
every
jurisdiction
is
having
these
problems
because
of
the
pandemic
because
of
other
issues,
and
indeed
Mr
Speaker.
U
So
the
fact
is,
there
is
nothing
in
Bill
201
that
should
be
of
concern
to
a
government
that
is
indeed
dedicated
to
more
transparency
and
accountability
that
indeed
in
its
work,
to
improve
our
Public
Health
Care
system,
they're
willing
to
take
such
radical
changes
as
firing,
the
entire
Board
of
Alberta
Health
Services
firing
the
chief
medical
officer
of
Health,
putting
it
all
in
the
hands
of
a
single
administrator.
If
they
truly
believe
that
they
are
effective
in
these
actions,
Mr
Speaker,
they
should
not
be
afraid
to
measure
it
and
report
on
it
publicly
and
clearly.
U
It
is
simple
clarity
at
a
time
when
albertans
are
desperately
looking
for
action
to
improve
our
health
care
System,
but
not
just
these
sort
of
short-term
lurching
radical
actions
that
this
government
is
choosing
to
take
out
of
desperation
but
for
actual
thoughtful
long-term
reform,
and
we
do
not
achieve
that
Mr
Speaker
without
clear
data
without
clear
standards,
and
that
is
what
Bill
201
is
offering
here.
This
is
a
constructive
work.
U
AQ
Well,
I
just
wish
their
shame
would
would
help
them
get
to
a
place
of
fixing
all
the
other
problems.
I'm
glad
to
see.
We
also
have
Bill
four
in
the
house,
which
is
fixing
another
one
of
their
problems
and
if
we
work
long
enough,
eventually
we'll
fix
all
of
their
problems,
but
that'll
all
be
done.
AQ
Of
course,
in
May
of
2023.,
but
I'd
like
to
say
that
it's
important
that
we
we
establish
in
this
province
the
ability
to
to
review
the
health
care
as
it's
provided
in
this
province
and
to
to
support
some
very
fundamental
principles
of
Health
Care
in
protecting
the
services
that
are
available
to
people
in
The
Province.
It
is
sort
of
somewhat
ironic
that
the
last
bill
we
were
talking
about.
AQ
AQ
So
we'll
try
to
to
point
out
why
this
government
should
should
at
least
try
to
be
consistent
on
on
a
single
day
within
this
legislature,
and
that
is
that
we
we
in
this
country
have
enjoyed
some
of
the
best
health
care
in
the
world
and
nobody's
saying
there
are
some
difficulties
and
problems,
but
that
is
the
function
of
government
to
to
take
some
time
to
assess
and
to
figure
out.
What's
going
right?
What's
not
going
right?
How
do
you
fix
that?
AQ
Instead,
the
this
government
has
mostly
created
a
situation
of
great
turmoil
in
this
province
around
Healthcare,
they
have
been
fighting
with
doctors
and
nurses
and
other
health
professionals
like
respiratory
therapists
and
social
workers
and
so
on
on
a
regular
basis
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic.
They
have
you
know,
canceled
the
doctor's
contract
they've
asked
the
nurses.
They
they've
gone
into
wage
negotiation,
with
nurses
asking
for
a
diminishment
of
their
salaries.
AQ
They
won't
even
share
with
us
the
advice
given
to
Cabinet
by
the
chief
medical
officer
of
health,
so
we
can
only
assume
that
the
reason-
why
is
that?
Because
they
were
not
following
medical
advice
in
the
decisions
they
they
made
with
regard
to
the
pandemic,
which
is
still
with
us
and
is
still
affecting
the
citizens
of
this
problem
greatly.
We
have
a
significant
numbers
of
people
in
the
hospital
right
now
with
covid
and
unfortunately,
now
we're
also
dealing
with
other
diseases
that
are
flus
and
childhood
diseases
that
are
that.
AQ
Are
you
know,
sort
of
giving
us
the
triple
whammy
right
now
and
then
this
then
the
this
government
changes
their
their
leader,
but
they
don't
change
their
belief
system
around
the
public
health
system.
They
still
go
back
into
attack
it.
They
remove
the
the
public
oversight
body
for
the
Health
Care
system
and
and
Institute
a
single
person
who
is
running
our
Health
Care
system
off
the
side
of
his
desk
because
he
has
other
employment
and
it's
doing
so
on
a
voluntary
basis.
AQ
I
mean
this
is
hardly
a
commitment
to
Public
Health
Care
in
this
province
and
now,
of
course,
we
see
that
that
the
deputy
two
Deputy
chief
medical
officers
are
are
resigning,
because
the
situation
is
chaotic.
What
we
have
seen
consistently
from
this
government
is
the
introduction
of
chaos
into
the
Health
Care
system,
and
it's
time
that
we
go
back
to
the
fact
that
we
have
enjoyed
incredibly
good
health
care
in
this
country,
because
we
started
with
a
series
of
principles
about
the
health
care
that
we
wanted
and
those
principles
under
the
Canada.
AQ
Health
Act
are
quite
well
known
and
they
start
off
with
a
a
principle
of
universality,
a
belief
that
that
this
Health
Care
is
for
all
albertans,
not
just
people
with
Deep
Pockets,
and
that
you,
you
should
be
able
to
access
that
that
Health
Care,
regardless
of
whether
you
are
someone
who
is
wealthy
or
has
a
health
care
plan
through
your
employment,
that,
just
simply
by
being
a
citizen
within
this
country,
you
have
access
to
that.
Health
Care.
AQ
We
know
that
that
there
is
a
principle
also
of
portability
with
regard
to
the
health
care
in
this
in
this
province,
and
that
meant
that
the
health
care
that
we
have
in
the
province
of
Alberta
is
the
same
or
similar
as
much
as
we
can
possibly
make
it
to
anywhere
else
in
the
country,
so
that
when
we
have
family
members
who
decide
to
lead
the
province
of
Alberta
and
move
to
other
provinces,
that
we
can
be
assured
that
they
will
be
receiving
significantly
the
same
level
of
support
in
in
terms
of
of
Health
Care,
and
now
this
this
government
is,
is
you
know,
threatening
to
move
in
a
different
direction
away
from
that,
so
that
you
actually
have
to
start
considering
your
move
to
seek
employment
also
based
on
well,
if
I
do
move
to
this
other
Province
to
get
a
better
job
or
to
earn
some
more
money,
I
might
also
not
get
the
health
care
I
deserve.
AQ
This
government
is
threatening.
You
know
the
notion
of
portability
within
this
in
this
country.
AQ
We
know
that
that
that
the
third
principle
of
Health
Care
that
we
have
a
have
established
in
this
country
is
one
of
accessibility,
and
that
is
that
Health
Care
must
be
available
where
people
are
and
that
it
can't.
AQ
It
can't
be
impossible
for
people
to
get
that
health
care
because
they
happen
to
live
in
the
North
and
there's
no
Health
Care
available
that
we
have
to
then
say
as
a
government,
we
will
bring
in
the
resources
into
the
North
or,
at
the
very
least,
ensure
the
people
from
the
north
are
given
the
resources
to
to
come
to
South
and-
and
that's
a
very
difficult
one.
We
understand
that.
We
know
that
that
could
be
expensive
for
both
the
citizens
and
for
the
government.
AQ
And
yet
you
know
a
a
government
that
really
cared
about
health
care
would
be
constantly
examining
that
and
coming
back
and
saying,
how
do
we
ensure
that
accessibility
is
there?
We
know
as
well
that
that
one
of
the
original
principles
of
Health
Care
was
comprehensiveness
the
fourth
one
and
that
that
principle
is
that
we
should
have
all
of
the
things
related
to
your
health,
be
covered
by
this
plan
and
over
time
over
the
history
of
Canada.
AQ
Not
just
simply
catastrophic
events
such
as
heart
attacks
and
so
on,
but
all
the
things
that
contribute
to
that,
such
as
drug
coverage
and
so
on
and
I
know
that
the
conservatives
have
consistently
been
been
resistant
to
that
particular
principle.
But
it's
one
that
we
should
be.
We
should
be
protecting
if
we
really
care
about
the
ultimate
health
of
our
of
our
citizens,
and
we
know
that.
Finally,
the
the
fifth
principle
of
the
the
the
federal
health
Act
was
one
of
public
administration.
AQ
That
is
that
you
should
be
able
to
depend
on
your
government
to
actually
establish
the
entities
that
are
necessary
to
to
provide
Health
Care
in
this
country,
and
that
is,
you
can
depend
on
your
government
to
build
the
hospitals.
You
can
depend
on
your
government
to
pay
the
doctors
through
government
mechanisms
and
that
you
should
be
able
to
depend
on
the
on
the
availability
of
of
services
such
as
ambulances
to
get
there
now.
T
You
Mr
and
I'm
pleased
to
rise
to
speak
to
Bill
201
Public,
Health,
Care
delivery
standards,
Act
brought
forward
by
member
for
Edmonton
Strathcona,
and
the
leader
of
the
office
also
want
to
begin
by
thanking
government
house
leader
for
agreeing
to
bring
back
this
important
piece
of
legislation
for
debate.
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
That's
what
albertan
expects
from
this
government
and
I'm
sure
that
Alberton
have
a
lot
more
to
say
about
this
government
record
when
it
comes
to
health
care,
when
they
will
go
into
election,
they
became
government,
they
told
doctors
contract,
but
over
Health
Care
in
chaos.
Throughout
this
pandemic,
where
governments
around
the
globe
were
cheering
on
Frontline
workers,
this
government
was
engaged
in
bullying
as
professionals
even
on
their
driveways.
T
AU
AC
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
If
you
can't
measure
it,
you
can't
manage
it.
Those
aren't
my
words
Mr
Speaker,
those
are
the
words
of
Peter
druker
Drucker,
who
is
a
business
consultant,
a
business
management
professional.
AC
In
other
words,
if
you
don't
measure,
then
you
don't
know
how
you're
doing
and
so
I
Rise
to
speak
in
favor
of
Bill
201,
because
it
establishes
service
standards
that'll
be
set
working
with
patients,
communities,
Health,
Care,
Providers
indigenous
communities,
to
ensure
that
the
government
is
accountable
to
certain
standards.
AC
I
think
that
this
is
this
is
very
timely,
Mr
Speaker.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
political
theater.
This
is
addressing
the
fact
that
we
have
seen
a
crisis
in
health
care.
That's
continuing
to
this
day,
Mr,
Speaker
and
and
you're.
Well
aware
of
this
as
a
rural
MLA,
the
fact
that
we
have
a
shortage
of
doctors,
there's
a
shortage
of
access
to
doctors.
AC
We've
had
rotating
blackouts
for
ambulances,
where
they're
simply
unavailable,
we've
had
certain
facilities
have
to
temporarily
close
or
limit
the
surgeries
or
services
that
they're
providing
for
their
community
members
and
honestly
Mr
Speaker
I'm
sure
you've
heard
from
many
constituents
as
have
I,
that
in
a
province
such
as
Alberta,
this
should
not
be
the
case,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
provide
the
government
with
some
tools
to
be
able
to
address
these
issues,
but
also
to
to
identify
where
these
issues
are
coming
from,
so
that
we
can
provide
Solutions
and
and
having
those
metrics
available,
and
those
specifics
will
help.
AC
You
know
Mr
Speaker,
when
I
go
and
talk
to
grade
six
classes,
I
I
ask
them
if
they
know
who
Tommy
Douglas
is
and
the
fact
that
he
was
voted
the
greatest
Canadian
a
few
years
back.
In
fact,
he
got
more
votes
than
even
you
know,
folks,
like
Wayne,
Gretzky
and
I'm.
A
huge
fan
of
Gretzky's
he's
my
favorite
hockey
player,
but
I
asked
the
students
if
they
know
why
he
was
voted.
AC
We
talk
about
many
other
jurisdictions
globally,
where
there
isn't
that
universal
access
to
health
care.
Where,
if
you
cannot
pay,
then
you
cannot
get
the
care
you
need,
and
so
you
know
my
colleague
remember
was
speaking
previously
was
talking
about
a
public
health
care,
System
public
delivery
of
Health
Care
Now.
AC
We
all
recognize
that
doctors
are
small
businesses
essentially
and
Incorporated,
and
negotiate
with
the
province
for
for
their
salaries.
But
the
point
I
believe
my
colleague
was
trying
to
make
is
that
we
should
be
investing
in
public
health
care,
not
looking
at
emulating
other
systems
that
have
gone
down
the
path
of
privatizing
health
care,
which
has
inevitably
led
to
higher
costs,
and
you
know
Mr
Speaker
I
got
to
tell
you.
AC
AC
His
tune
changed
completely,
and
so
has
since
been
a
fan
of
Public,
Health,
Care
and
and
recognizes
what
we
have
here
in
Canada
now,
as
members
know
in
this
chamber,
because
I've
said
it
inside
and
outside
of
the
chamber
can
can
AHS
be
improved.
Yes,
the
absolutely
the
answer
is
it
can
be
improved.
We
need
to
do
better.
We
need
to
do
better,
enhancing
the
care
that
albertans
are
getting.
We
also
need
to
get
better
value
for
the
money
that
we're
investing
in
our
health
care.
System,
100
I,
don't
disagree
with
that.
Mr
Speaker,
I.
AC
Think
part
of
of
what
we've
discovered
in
this
chamber
is
that
the
two
different
parties
have
two
different
approaches
to
it,
but
my
hope
is
that
the
members
from
the
government
can
recognize
the
importance
of
a
bill
this
bill
201,
and
what
measuring
and
having
those
those
specifics
can
help
us
to
drive
outcomes
that
will
benefit
everyone
now.
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
point.
The
premier
made
today
in
question
period
where
she
talked
about
a
new
facility.
AC
AC
It
would
require
that
new
dollars
future
dollars
be
invested
in
our
Public
Health
Care
system,
but
I
know
that
the
majority
of
my
constituents
and
the
majority
of
albertans
that
I've
talked
to
are
proud
of
our
Public
Health
Care
System,
publicly
funded
publicly
delivered,
and
so
we
want
to
see
that
continue,
but
we
also
want
to
see
it
improved.
AC
AC
Be
able
to
enhance
the
system
like
again
Peter
drucker's
line,
if
you
can't
measure
it,
you
can't
manage
it.
If
we
don't
know
what's
causing
these
wait
times,
then
we
don't
know
how
to
improve
them.
You
know,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
the
idea
that
you
know.
Yes,
we
need
to
fund
our
health
care
System,
but
we
also
need
to
fund
it
to
deliver
those
those
outcomes
that
albertans
rely
on
and
and
quite
frankly,
Mr
Speaker.
We
continue
to
hear
horror
stories
about
the
state
the
system
is
currently
in
now
I
appreciate.
AC
You
know
the
premier
will
say:
well
that's
why
I
got
rid
of
the
board
and
brought
in
the
administrator
and
and
that
they're
making
changes.
I
mean
the
reality
is
that
we
need
to
make
some
changes,
but
this
bill
will
hold
the
government
accountable,
because
these
standards
will
be
public
and
I.
Think
in
a
in
an
era
of
transparency
where,
where
our
citizens
albertans
want
to
see
processes,
they
want
to
see
clear
lines.
AC
This
will
provide
that
this
will
give
albertans
a
perspective
and
a
view
into
our
Health
Care
system
that
they
haven't
had
previously.
AC
And
so
again,
if
the,
if
the
standards
aren't
met,
then
the
government
has
to
come
up
with
a
plan
on
how
to
meet
those
standards.
I
mean
that
just
sounds
like
good
planning
to
me
as
far
as
if
we
see
that
there's
a
deficit
that
we
address,
these
issues,
Mr
Speaker,
I,
I
I-
always
find
it
fascinating.
When,
when
good
points
are
being
deliberated,
that
members
of
the
government
have
to
scream
whatever
insults
over
to
this
side,
or
why
didn't
you?
AC
Do
that
and
you
know
I
can
I
can
tell
you
Mr
Speaker
that
there
was
a
number
of
things
that
we
did
address
and
I
can
tell
you
Mr
Speaker
that
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
will
fix
when
we
form
government
next
spring
and
the
member
on
that
side
can
be
patient
for
for
that
to
to
happen
that
that
this
will
be
addressed.
But
here's
an
example,
I
don't
know,
am
I
allowed
to
give
way
on
emotion,
I,
don't
think
I
am.
AC
So
Mr
Speaker
I,
think
I
know
my
time
is
is
limited
on
this,
but
but
this
is
an
example
of
a
reasonable
bill
that
I
encourage
members
to
support.
Thank
you.
AO
We
watch
this
government
bring
in
their
bill,
one
which
did
not
address
anything
that
albertans
are
worried
about
right
now,
they're,
not
worried
about
anything
that
was
related
into
that
that
bill.
So
the
fact
that
we
are
here
this
afternoon
being
able
to
debate
this
is
is
very
much
appreciated
and
I.
Thank
the
government
house
leader
for
bringing
this
back
so
that
we
could
debate
this
piece
of
legislation
this
afternoon.
AO
AO
AO
I
had
a
very
dear
friend
reach
out
to
me
yesterday
with
an
absolutely
heartbreaking,
heartbreaking
story.
Their
sibling
has
been
struggling
with
mental
health
and
addiction
and
being
homeless.
For
years,
it's
a
frequent
rotation
of
living
on
the
streets,
living
rough
being
assaulted,
overdosing
interactions
with
police
interactions
with
Health
Care
Professionals
to
be
turned
around
back
on
the
streets.
AO
This
cycle
has
been
going
on
for
this
family
for
years.
Unfortunately,
the
situation
has
gotten
incredibly
worse.
November
22nd
was
the
last
point
of
contact
that
my
friend's
family
had
with
their
sibling
and
decided
to
reach
out
to
the
Edmonton
Police
to
file
a
missing
persons
report.
They
had
been
in
contact
with
all
of
the
hospitals.
They've
been
in
contact
with
numerous
organizations
that
work
with
those
that
are
living
rough,
those
that
come
in
contact
with
people
that
are
using
and
those
that
struggle
with
mental
health.
AO
The
list
of
people
that
she's
attempted
to
to
reach
out
to
is
endless.
There
were
numerous
individuals
within
the
policing
system
that
had
contact
with
them,
and
the
police
were
incredibly
informative
and
helpful
and
supportive
to
my
friend,
however,
they
they
weren't
able
to
to
find
him.
AO
Yesterday
morning,
my
friend
was
on
her
way
to
work
and
received
a
phone
call
that
EPS
had
located
him
and
they
didn't
know
what
the
options
were.
He
clearly
needed
medical
help,
but
the
officer
told
my
friend
we
could
call
an
ambulance.
AO
AO
This
happened
yesterday
morning,
the
day
after
or
today
when
our
Premier
stands
in
this
chamber
and
says
it's
fixed,
it's
good.
That
is
absolutely
not
acceptable
when
albertans
call
police
and
when
they
call
an
ambulance,
they
expect
help.
I
can't
imagine
what
it
would
be
like
for
that
officer
to
be
waiting
and
have
no
response.
AO
So
my
friend
picked
up
her
brother
and
brought
him
went
online.
Looked
at
the
emergency
room
wait
times
places
suggested
that
so
that
they're
reported
suggested
that
these
are
the
options
in
and
around
Edmonton.
You
could
go
there,
so
they
got
there
at
5
35..
Yesterday
afternoon,
at
10
40
pm
he
saw
a
nurse.
AO
AO
AO
AO
People
get
involved
in
this
field
because
they
care
and
want
to
make
a
difference.
Mr
Speaker.
It's
absolutely
heartbreaking
to
hear
Healthcare
professionals
breaking
down
desperate
for
support,
feeling
that
there
has
been
an
attack
from
this
government
on
them,
while
they're
trying
to
Simply
take
care
of
people.
There
aren't
enough
resources
available
and
this
government
hasn't
provided
any.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker.
Let's.
AN
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
my
pleasure
to
join
the
debate
on
Bill
201,
Public,
Health,
Care,
delivery
standards,
Act
so
I
mean.
Certainly
this
is
a
very
important
bill,
and
especially
right
now
currently
in
Alberta.
It
is
something
that
could
improve
our
health
care
System
significantly.
We
are
in
crisis,
as
we
see
every
day
on
the
news
where
there's
long
lineups
to
get
into
the
emergencies.
AN
Ems
access
to
ambulances
takes
a
long
time
me-
and
my
colleagues
have
spoken
about
this,
and
so
I
really
encourage
all
of
my
colleagues
here
in
the
assembly
to
seriously
consider
supporting
this
bill
and
it
really
lays
out
three
purposes
and
I'll
just
go
through
them.
It
ensures
albertans,
have
reliable,
And,
Timely
access
to
public
health
care,
it
has
standards
that
are
established
by
independent
experts
and
thirdly,
it
ensures
albertans
lives
and
quality
of
life
is
not
put
at
risk
due
to
lack
of
transparency
regarding
health
data.
AN
So
these
are
three
fundamental
aspects
of
this
bill
and
it
is
very
important
that
we
I
think
pass
this
legislation
because
it
can
make
a
huge
difference
for
albertans,
and
we
have
had
certainly
a
lot
of
support
in
the
community
regarding
this
and
one
of
the
leading
experts
he's
a
former
CEO
of
the
Physicians
and
surgeons
and
a
former
chair
of
the
Health
Quality
Council
of
Alberta
Dr,
treble
Seaman,
and
he
is
obviously
very
aware
of
what's
happening
in
our
health
system-
has
worked
in
that
system
for
a
very
long
time
has
been
a
leader
in
that
system,
and
he
has
spoken
in
support
of
Bill
201.
AN
Very
much
saying
this
is
exactly
what
albertans
need
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
health
system
that
is
working
because
right
now,
it's
not
working,
and
we
can
see
that
so
so
so,
clearly
and
frankly,
there's
many
things
that
the
UCP
are
doing
to
make
it
not
work.
AN
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
was
in
the
health
Minister's
mandate
letter
was
just
about
the
fundamental
importance
of
primary
care,
and
so
this
is
what
the
UCP
was
talking
about,
but
that,
on
the
other
hand,
just
recently
actually
before
the
Mandate
letters
were
put
out,
they
changed
policies
to
erode
the
relationship
between
the
patient
and
the
primary
care
provider.
And
what
I'm
talking
about
specifically,
is
the
opiate
transition
program.
AN
This
is
this
is
a
program
where
safe
pharmaceutical
alternatives
are
prescribed
by
your
primary
care
provider
and
the
UCP
now
say
no.
They
have
to
go
to
an
Alberta,
Health,
Services
clinic
so
they're
eroding
that
so
there's
so
many
things
that
used
to
be
are
doing
to
hurt
our
health
system
right
now
and
despite
what
they're
saying
on,
on
the
one
hand,
supporting
so
I
speak
in
support
of
201
and
with
that
I'll
conclude
my
remarks.
R
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker
I
am
pleased
to
rise
in
order
to
close
debate
on
this
important
bill.
R
Whether
it
was
you
know,
emergency
rooms
and
operating
rooms
starting
to
shut
down
at
first
in
in
rural
communities
across
the
province,
followed
ultimately
by
by
Major
cessations
of
service
in
in
huge
urban
communities
that
whether
it
was
the
fact
that
we
were
hearing
increasingly
concerning
reports
about
delays
with
respect
to
ambulance
times
and
their
arrival
time,
or
whether
it
was
about
the
fact
that
an
increasingly
large
number
of
albertans
simply
cannot
find
a
family
doctor
and
not
and
cannot
secure
Primary
Health
Care,
which
of
course,
we
know,
means
that
there
is
a
Cascade
effect
on
those
previous
two
things
that
I
talked
about,
not
to
mention,
of
course,
the
ongoing
wait
times
with
respect
to
surgery.
R
So
all
these
things
have
engendered
in
a
growing
level
of
uncertainty
and
worry
on
the
part
of
albertans,
whether
they're
worrying
about
their
own
health
or
where
whether
they're
worried
about
the
health
of
their
children
or
whether
they're
worried
about
the
health
of
their
their
parents
or
or
friends
and
loved
ones.
They
are
wondering
whether
they
can
actually
count
on
their
Health
Care
system
to
be
there
for
them
when
they
need
it,
and
and
in
order
to
to
to
fix
this,
then
you
know,
we've
been
attempting
to
have
a
wide-ranging
debate
in
this
house.
R
Now
we
haven't
been
able
to
have
a
wide-ranging
debate,
but
we
have
been
able
to
spend
the
last
45
minutes
or
so
talking
about
the
solutions
proposed
in
this
bill,
and
the
reason
this
bill
is
important
is
because
what
it
does
is.
R
Not
a
problem
here,
oh
no,
that
that
closure
over
there
that's
normal.
Oh
no,
there's
not
a
shortage
of
of
health
care
workers.
Oh
no,
the
doctors
are
fine
with
their
contract
being
ripped
up.
Oh
no,
it's
it's
totally
reasonable
to
wait.
45
minutes
for
an
ambulance
like
those
kinds
of
answers
frustrate
people
and
the
fact
of
the
matter
is-
is
that
the
simple
Act
of
transparency
breeds
accountability.
What's
really
good
is
that
the
bill
actually
compels
accountability
and
beyond
that
the
bill
compels
resources
to
be
dedicated
to
meeting
those
standards.
R
So
it's
time
that
we
start
all
of
us,
no
matter
who's
in
government
holding
ourselves
accountable
to
fixing
our
Public
Health
Care
system
and
doing
better.
You
know
firing
the
AHS
board
of
directors
putting
someone
in
there
as
a
temporary
head
who's
been
in
there
before
for
short
periods
of
time
and
very
temporary
roles,
and
then
saying
oh
he's
been
here
three
weeks
and-
and
he
tells
us
now
that
he's
been
there-
that
actually
everything's
really
working
well.
R
Well,
that's
just
so
frustrating
and
in
fact
it
worries
albertans,
because
it
sounds
like
they're
really
not
holding
themselves
accountable
or
taking
real
action
or
or
preparing
to
open
up
the
the
doors
to
Alberta
so
that
they
can
see
what's
happening
and
what's
not
happening
and
keep
the
government
accountable.
And
we
know
that
this
government,
outside
of
covet
funding,
has
essentially
taken
well
over
a
billion
dollars
out
of
our
Health
Care
system
at
a
time
when
it's
facing
more
pressure
than
it
ever
ever
has
before.
R
So
it's
not
surprising
that
there
are
systemic
problems.
The
fact
that
there's
been
such
a
hostile
relationship
with
Frontline
Healthcare
Providers
of
every
type,
it's
not
surprising
that
there
is
difficulties
with
respect
to
delivering
health
care,
and
so
these
kind,
the
fact
that
covid
was
the
most
poorly
managed
in
Alberta
relative
to
the
rest
of
the
country.
It's
not
surprising
that
we're
experiencing
systemic
problems
in
our
health
care
System.
R
But
for
those
reasons,
all
of
us
have
an
obligation
to
be
open
with
albertans
about
what
the
problems
are
and
what
we're
going
to
do
to
fix
them.
And
that's
what
passing
this
bill
would
do
and
because
it
is
the
most
important
issue
for
albertans.
That's
what
folks
should
agree
to
vote
in
favor
members.
AU
The
Honorable,
leader
of
the
official
opposition,
has
moved
second
reading
of
Bill
201
Public
Health
Care
delivery
standards
act.
Does
the
assembly
agree
with
the
motion
for
second
reading?
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
opposed
in
my
opinion,
the
eyes
have
it:
a
division
has
been
called
call
in
the
members.