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Description
Legislative Assembly of Alberta
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
I'd
like
to
call
the
committee
of
the
Supply
to
order
before
we
commence
consideration
of
Supply
supplementary
Supply
I
would
like
to
briefly
review
the
standing
orders
governing
the
speaking
rotation,
as
provided
for
in
standing
order.
59.
the
rotation
in
standing
order.
59
applies,
which
is
as
follows.
B
The
members
of
any
other
party
represented
in
the
assembly
or
any
independent
members,
and
the
minister
or
the
member
of
executive
Council,
acting
The
Minister's
behalf
may
speak
and
for
the
next
20
minutes,
private
members
of
the
government
caucus
and
the
minister
or
the
member
of
executive
Council
acting
on
The
Minister's
behalf
may
speak
and
four.
The
time
remaining
to
the
extent
possible.
The
rotation
outlined
in
Clauses
B
to
e
shall
apply
with
a
speaking
time
set
at
five
minutes,
as
provided
in
standing
order.
59.
B
during
the
first
rotation
speaking
times
are
limited
to
10
minutes
once
the
first
rotation
is
complete
speaking
times
are
reduced
to
five
minutes,
provided
that
the
chair
has
been
notified.
A
minister
and
a
private
member
May
combine
their
speaking
times
with
both
taking
and
yielding
the
floor
during
the
combined
period.
Finally
is
provided
for
in
government
motion
24
approved
by
the
assembly
on
March
16
2023.
The
time
allotted
for
consideration
is
three
hours.
B
D
Well,
thank
you.
Madam
chair
I
would
like
to
move
the
2022-23
supplementary
Supply
estimates
for
the
General
Revenue
fund.
When
passed.
These
estimates
will
authorize
an
approximate
increase
of
2.7
billion
in
voted
expense
funding,
500
000
in
voted
capital
investment
and
292
million
in
financial
transactions.
D
The
estimates
include
additional
funding
to
the
following
offices
and
government
departments,
Advanced
education,
affordability
and
utilities,
Agriculture
and
irrigation,
Children's,
Services
culture,
education,
energy,
environment
and
protected
areas,
executive,
Council,
Health,
indigenous
relations,
infrastructure,
Justice,
mental
health
and
addiction,
Public
Safety
and
Emergency
Services,
seniors,
community
and
Social
Services
service,
Alberta
and
red
tape,
reduction
technology
and
Innovation
and
treasury
board
and
finance
among
various
other
programs,
services
and
obligations.
The
funding
in
Bill
12
will
help
provide
for
additional
investment
in
the
Alberta
Heritage
savings
trust
fund.
D
It
will
provide
for
the
cost
of
selling
oil
and
the
site
rehabilitation
program.
It
will
account
for
physician
payments
in
the
new
Alberta
Medical
Association
agreement
and
rebates
and
grants
under
the
affordability
action
plan,
along
with
advertising
to
inform
albertans
about
the
government's
affordable
affordability
relief
measures.
D
While
we
do
see
additional
spending
in
this
bill,
it's
important
to
highlight
the
work
this
government
has
done
to
get
Alberta's
finances
back
in
order.
Since
we
formed
government
chair
in
2019,
the
McKinnon
panel
found
that
Alberta
spent
significantly
more
than
Canada's
three
largest
provinces
on
a
per
capita
basis,
but
without
achieving
better
outcomes.
D
Since
then,
this
government
has
worked
diligently
and
responsibly
to
bring
spending
in
line
with
comparator
provinces
and
budget.
2023
shows
that
Alberta
is
at
the
range
of
those
provinces
on
a
per
capita
basis.
We
are
no
longer
an
expansive
outlier.
That's
good
news
for
our
Province
and
for
the
sustainable
delivery
of
the
programs
and
services.
Alberta
albertans
rely
on.
Furthermore,
budget
2023
keeps
our
net
debt
to
GDP
ratio
well
below
our
targeted
maximum
of
30
percent.
D
In
fact,
at
the
end
of
22-23,
we're
at
10.2
percent
simply
put
our
commitment
to
our
fiscal
anchors
is
paying
off
and
Paving
the
way
for
a
more
prosperous
future
going
forward.
New
fiscal
rules
will
make
sure
that
governments
continue
to
make
responsible
spending
decisions.
A
new
fiscal
framework
would
require
all
future
Alberta
governments
to
balance
their
annual
budgets
with
certain
exceptions
and
use
any
surpluses
to
prioritize
debt
repayment.
D
Setting
limits
would
challenge
the
government
to
focus
on
improving
programs
and
services
while
continuing
to
use
hard-earned
tax
dollars
wisely.
Looking
at
the
numbers
in
front
of
us,
we
see
that
same
sentiment
reflected
today.
The
largest
supplementary
amount
in
the
estimates
belongs
to
treasury
board
and
finance,
where
we
see
753
million
provided
for
investment
in
the
Heritage
savings.
D
Trust
fund
we've
also
brought
forth
in
separate
legislation,
changes
that
will
enable
the
fund
to
retain
a
100
percent
of
its
annual
net
earnings
right
now,
any
net
income
other
than
the
amount
needed
for
inflation
proofing
is
transferred
to
the
General
Revenue
fund.
This
change
would
result
in
significant
annual
growth
in
the
Heritage
fund
and
Mark
another
step,
an
important
step
in
securing
Alberta's
future.
D
The
compelling
data
point
that's
worth
noting
again
Madam
chair.
If
we
had
kept
all
of
the
previous
earnings
in
the
fund
from
day
one
without
adding
any
additional
deposits
other
than
the
ones
that
were
made
instead
of
an
18
billion
dollar
fund
at
the
end
of
2223
Madam
chair,
we
would
have
a
fund
approaching
300
billion
dollars.
D
The
next
largest
expense
in
the
estimates
comes
from
the
Department
of
energy.
An
amount
of
636
million
is
requested,
which
includes
338
million
for
the
cost
of
selling
oil,
primarily
due
to
high
oil
prices
and
279
million
for
the
site
rehabilitation
program
as
a
result
of
revised
Federal
program
timelines.
D
An
amount
of
553
million
is
requested
for
the
for
the
Department
of
Health,
including
332
million
for
physician
payments,
184
million
for
the
new
Alberta
Medical
Association
agreement
and
37
million
for
payments
to
Allied
Health
Providers
on
the
matter
of
Health.
It
must
be
noted
that
budget
2023
will
provide
funding
beyond
that
which
we
see
in
this
bill
to
continue
to
build
a
stronger
Health
Care
system
for
albertans.
D
D
The
unique
and
challenging
circumstances
of
the
last
year
called
on
the
government
to
act
fast
to
make
life
more
affordable
for
albertans
budget
23
Builds
on
our
efforts
in
this
area,
with
2.3
billion
in
affordability,
measures
in
2324,
1.5
billion
in
2425,
and
another
1.8
billion
in
2526.
Madam
chair
we're
keeping
more
money
in
the
pockets
of
albertans
and
we're
continuing
to
provide
a
helping
hand
to
those
in
need.
D
B
A
F
Well,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
all
of
the
ministers
and
assistants
that
are
here
this
evening.
It's
nice
to
see
some
of
your
familiar
faces
and
gainfully
employed
still
that's
great.
F
The
I'd
just
like
to
make
some
general
comments
about
supplementary
Supply
and
what's
clear
from
this
Madam
speaker,
this
request
for
supplementary
Supply
is
that
this
UCP
government
is
campaigning
on
the
public
time
a
whopping
6.6
million
dollars
for
advertising
alone
to
promote
the
governments.
As
we
heard
in
the
budget,
2023
estimates,
another
3.5
million
dollars
is
on
the
way
to
keep
on
promoting
the
government.
This
Madam
speaker,
in
our
view
and
in
review
many
albertans,
is
an
abuse
of
public
dollars.
F
Over
10
million
of
public
money
is
being
spent
to
promote
the
new
premier's
government
right
before
the
election.
That's
10
million,
that's
not
even
being
spent
to
hire
family
doctors,
for
example,
10
million
dollars
that
could
be
spent
on
teachers
in
the
classroom.
Most
importantly,
that's
10
million
dollars
that
could
be
spent
on
further
to
further
the
Electoral
interests
of
the
UCP
government.
F
F
So
Madam
speaker,
certainly
Supply
is
a
matter
of
course.
I
know
as
governments
as
Minister
that
it's
necessary
to
do
so,
but
is
it
necessary
to
spend
four
times
the
amount
that
is
even
legally
able
for
any
political
party
to
spend
during
an
electoral
period
in
a
pre-election
spend
out
of
the
supplementary
Supply,
there
seems
to
be
No
Boundaries
around
this.
There
seems
to
be
no
regular
regulation.
Certainly
the
finance
administrator
said
some
words
about
said:
oh
no!
Well,
we
wouldn't
do
that,
but
there's
absolutely
nothing
legally.
F
That
would
compel
the
governments
to
do
anything,
but
what
this
is
originally
intended
to
do,
which
is
to
create
a
fund
to
promote
the
government's
interests
before
an
electoral
period,
and
you
know
albertans
aren't
they're
smart.
They
know
that
the
barrage
of
telephone
calls
and
of
which
I've
got
many
from
several
of
you,
I
didn't
answer,
but
the
the
pamphlets
that
are
in
everybody's
mailbox
all
of
the
time
right.
F
A
lot
of
people
just
know
that
you
know
the
government
is
campaigning
on
your
money
on
the
money
that
comes
out
of
your
taxpayers,
money
campaigning
on
that
same
dime
and
people
just
don't
like
it.
It
leaves
a
bad
taste
in
their
mouths
and,
quite
frankly,
it
goes
against
the
spirits
of
the
difference
between
a
budget
and
and
campaigning
simple
as
that,
so
that
plan
speaker
is
my
general
comments
around
supplementary
supplementary
Supply
I.
Think
that
my
colleagues
will
add
some
supplement
to
that
supplement
to
the
supplementary
Supply
comments.
F
But
the
bottom
line
is
this
right:
that
people
need
to
know
that
this
government
has
cut
themselves
a
check
that
is
four
times
greater
than
what
they're
allowed
to
spend
during
the
Electoral
period
in
the
pre-electorial
period
in
supplementary
Supply
and,
quite
frankly,
Madam
chair.
This
is
unacceptable.
Thank
you.
D
D
During
this
time
of
inflation
and
Madam
chair,
338
million
dollars
are
going
to
offset
the
cost
of
selling
oil.
We
are
in
a
time
of
higher
energy
prices,
we're
all
thankful
for
that
in
this
house,
but
with
that
comes
some
additional
costs
related
to
selling
the
oil
that
we
receive
as
a
royalty
in
kind
Madam
chair
this.
These
supplement
this
supplementary
Supply.
B
H
G
An
estimates
I
I
really
wanted
to
share
time
with
Minister
of
Justice
and
I
was
not
afforded
that
opportunity.
Minister
of
Public
Safety,
also
initially
didn't
share,
but
Midway
through
graciously
agreed
to
share
the
time.
So
at
least
there
was
good,
but
we
are
talking
about
budget
supplementary
Supply,
one
of
the
main
instruments
of
government's
fiscal
policy
and
that
certainly
need
to
be
focused
on
Alberta's
need
issues
facing
them
and
how
we
spend
the
government's
money
and
Minister
talked
about
responsible
spending.
G
However,
if
these
figure,
when
we
look
at
supplementary
Supply,
certainly
if
you're
spending
in
health,
if
you're
spending
in
education,
that's
a
good
use
of
public
money
and
certainly
over
Health
Care
system
is
in
crisis,
over
education
system
is
in
crisis.
We
are
facing
inflation.
In
fact,
we
are
facing
a
fairly
significant
cost
of
living
crisis
and,
what's
clear
from
this
request
for
supplementary
estimators,
that
government
is
giving
itself
whopping
6.6
billion
dollars
for
advertising
alone
to
promote
not
just
government
budget
to
campaign
for
the
next
election.
G
A
couple
of
Madam
speaker,
I,
heard
couple
of
ads
on
a
local
radio
station
in
my
area
and
government
has
audacity
to
send
that
ad
that
we
listen
to
you.
We
are
capping
insurance.
G
G
They
talk
about
capping
insurance
for
three
years
and
seven
months,
three
and
a
half
years,
but
we
heard
from
this
government
that
capping
destroyed
the
insurance
industry.
They
were
leaving,
they
were
taking
all
the
products
away
and
soon
we
will
be
out
of
the
product.
There
will
be
no
insurance
in
Alberta,
so
we
need
to
remove
the
cap
and
hand
the
pen
to
insurance
companies,
so
they
can
raise
it
to
whatever
they
think
is
reasonable.
G
G
G
G
G
That
is
not
acceptable
and
I.
Don't
think
there
is
a
reasonable
explanation
that
any
of
the
member
can
provide,
even
with
the
Harper
public
service.
There
is
no
explanation
for
that
kind
of
spending
on
campaigning
on
public
dime,
and
certainly
that's
not
what
albertan
expect
from
us.
That's
not
is
what's
acceptable
to
our
constituents.
That's
not
the
acceptable
use
of
taxpayer
dollars.
So
I.
Don't
think
that
there
is
any
explanation
for
that
with
that.
I
will
see
in
my
time
to
my
colleagues.
D
Thank
you.
The
member
officer
touched
on
a
number
of
topics
and
there's
there's
experts
in
the
room,
so
I'll
just
give
high
level
comments
on
some
of
them
in
terms
of
schools.
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
I
was
in
my
constituency
of
Calgary
southeast
on
Thursday
and
Friday,
and
earlier
today
for
three
separate
Public
School
openings,
two
elementaries
Anna
Middle
School,
three
School
openings,
three
public
schools
and
a
calorie
constituency.
D
D
Number
one
Capital
asked
by
my
constituents
and
they've
got
it
and
it
gets
better
because
what
my
constituents
also
asked
for
was
playground
funding
to
be
included
in
elementary
schools
and
our
education
Minister
here
got
it
done.
250
000,
so
elementary
schools
have
playgrounds
when
they're
built
it's
just
wonderful.
D
On
insurance
yeah.
The
member
rightly
pointed
out
that
we
have
prevented
further
rate
increases
until
January
of
next
year.
That
was
in
response
to
albertan's
rightful
concern
about
the
potential
price
increases
on
yet
another
category
that
they
need
to
spend
money
on.
But
the
core
of
the
question
was
the
6.6
million,
which
includes
five
million
dollars
in
advertising
related
to
the
affordability
measures,
and
this
I
do
want
to
talk
about
in
more
detail.
D
So
an
awareness
campaign
has
been
underway
to
ensure
that
all
albertans
are
aware,
and
so
they
can
take
advantage
of
the
relief
measures
that
are
available
to
them.
Albertans
have
been
hearing
about
the
affordability
programs
on
the
radio
I'm
pleased
to
hear
the
members
of
opposite.
Remember
them.
It
means
it's
working.
It
means
it's
driving
more
people
more
albertans
to
the
affordability
supports
that
they
need
they're,
seeing
our
ads
on
TV
and
online
and
they're
getting
at
the
member
Ops.
That
highlighted
the
wonderful
flyer.
D
So
again
it's
it's
tremendous
and
this
is
I'm
going
to
bring
the
talk
about
the
recognition
numbers
because
they're
very
impressive,
but
the
member
opposite
is
a
testament
that
it
is
working.
It's
also
important
that
we
advertise
this
because
we
want
albertans
to
avoid
scams
and
safely
access.
These
support
tools
without
an
advertising
campaign
albertans
most
in
need,
may
miss
the
opportunity
to
access
some
of
these
benefits,
especially
with
all
the
misinformation
floating
out
there.
I
mean
again.
D
One
day
you
hear:
no
schools
are
opening,
and
the
next
I'm
in
my
constituency
hoping
three
schools
over
three
days.
So
I
think
it
is
important
that
we
do
advertise
to
break
through
the
noise
and
to
get
truth
to
albertans
from
time
to
time,
so
that
that
Campaign,
which
is
in
this
6.6
million,
it
runs
from
January
11th
to
April
30th.
It
has
a
it
has
a
budget
of
5
million
and
the
campaign
has
been
remarkably
effective,
showing
excellent
performance
metrics
to
date.
D
So,
just
to
give
you
some
stats,
our
digital
ads
have
generated
about
a
million
clicks
five
times
the
Benchmark
rate
for
comparable
ads.
Our
online
videos
have
a
high
view
rate
of
over
90
percent
The
Benchmark
75
percent,
our
Facebook
ads
have
seven
times
the
average
click
rate
seven
times
and
our
ads
on
YouTube
they're.
Also,
they
got
a
view
rate
of
over
92
percent.
D
The
Benchmark
is
50
to
55
so
and
this
side
of
the
house,
as
with
the
economy
and
jobs
and
energy
we
like
to
excel
so
our
our
metrics
on
the
this
advertising
campaign
off
the
charts
and
I'm
glad
because
there
is
an
affordability
crisis,
there
are
inflationary
pressures
and
albertans
need
the
support
and
I'll
remind
you
that
we've
provided
affordability,
supports
to
virtually
all
seniors
65
and
up
in
this
province,
six
hundred
dollars
over
six
months
to
help
offset
significant
inflationary
pressures.
D
We've
also
provided
those
affordability
support
supports
to
albertans
on
our
core
support
programs.
That
would,
of
course,
include
h
and
people
receiving
Services,
Under,
PDD,
Income,
Support
recipients
and
also
everybody
who's
on
the
Alberta
seniors
benefit
and
families.
Because
of
the
number
of
dependents
groceries,
everything's
hitting
them
very
hard,
we
also
made
sure
that
the
vast
majority
of
families
with
dependent
children
would
get
a
hundred
dollars
per
month
per
child
for
the
next
six
months,
and
I
can
tell
you
back
in
my
constituency,
they
need
it.
D
I've
been
hearing
every
day
about
how
much
of
an
impact
that's
made
in
the
lives
of
seniors
and
children
and
from
my
colleagues,
especially
a
minister
of
seniors
and
seniors,
and
community
and
Social
Services
talking
at
how
much
of
it's
helped
our
seniors
and
albertans
on
core
support
programs.
It
couldn't
come
at
a
better
time
and
it
it's
also
a
reminder
that
we
do
need
to
share
this
news
because
albertans
don't
just
need
the
supports
they
need.
D
They
need
some
hope
and
optimism
in
what
is
a
very
challenging
time,
and
sometimes
they
hear
that
there
isn't
anything
available
for
them
and
I
think
that's
unfortunate,
because
there's
no
need
to
fear
Monger
in
a
crisis.
There's
no
need
to
con
to
to
spread
misinformation.
It
doesn't
help
anyone.
You
know
so
again.
I
just
want
to
go
over
our
affordability
program.
D
We
also
touched
on
the
electricity
rebate,
so
that's
that's
a
billion
dollars
of
support
providing
2
million
homes,
small
businesses
and
Farms
relief
on
the
high
electricity
prices
for
10
months,
an
average
of
fifty
dollars
directly
off
their
bill
at
a
time
of
extreme.
You
know
extreme
rates
and
electricity
and
volatility
and
I'm
pretty
at
a
pretty
cold
winter.
D
B
A
I
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
Madam
chair
to
speak
to
this
supplementary
Supply,
because
it
gives
me
a
chance
to
you
know,
point
out
the
cynical
nature
of
the
government
that
has
spent
years
cutting
literally.
We
just
listened
to
the
Minister
of
Finance
and
treasury
board,
talk
about
all
the
opportunities
they
took
earlier
in
their
time
here
in
the
house
to
cut
cut
cut
and
then
suddenly
they
want
to
be
rewarded
for
giving
back
small
little
pieces
back
here.
You
know
when
somebody
comes
and
takes
things
away
from
you
and
then
says.
I
Well,
we'll
give
you
a
little
bit
back
of
what
used
to
be
yours,
anyways.
It's
not
generosity.
It's
cynicalism
and
I
I,
just
I
find
it
I
thought
I,
find
it
very
discouraging
to
see
this
government
is
suddenly.
You
know
seen
the
light
at
the
end
of
their
term,
and
now
here
we
see
them
actually
using
taxpayer
dollars
to
pretend
that
they
didn't
take
all
this
away
from
the
citizens
of
this
province
and
that
somehow
they're
being
kind
and
generous
in
return.
But
it's
not
what's
really
happening.
I
You
know
the
the
the
the
minister
stood
up
and
said
we
were
spending
more
on
Government
Services
than
other
provinces,
but
he
never
stops
to
say.
Why
might
that
have
been
that
we
were
spending
more
and
perhaps,
if
he'd
done,
some
analysis
on
this
he'd
realize
that
we
really
are
an
oil-based
economy,
which
means
that
wages
in
this
province
are
significantly
higher
than
in
most
places
in
the
country,
because
oil
and
gas
tends
to
pay
a
higher
wages.
When
that
happens,
that
Ultra
then
pushes
up
the
wage
demands
across
the
board.
I
So
it's
not
that
we
were
spending
more.
We
were
happening
to
be
a
fortunate
province
that
could
give
people
more,
and
we
are
recognizing
that
the
nurses
who
went
and
spent
four
years
at
University
to
get
a
degree
shouldn't
at
least
be
paid
as
much
as
somebody
who
just
got
out
of
grade
12
and
was
a
driving
truck
in
an
oil
field,
and
that's
why
wages
were
high.
So
when
he
says
we
brought
that
down.
What
he's
really
saying
is
we
found
a
way
to
suppress
the
wages
of
albertans?
I
So
they
only
tell
you
part
of
the
truth,
and
the
same
is
true
about
what's
happening
with
this
budget
they're
telling
you.
Oh,
we
put
in
all
these
kinds
of
things.
The
minister
just
stood
up
and
talked
about
opening
schools
in
his
writing,
but
what
it
doesn't
tell
you
is
how
many
schools
he
didn't
do
for
three
years
and
10
months,
all
of
a
sudden
they're
opening
schools
and
they're
doing
other
things
in
in
every
Ministry.
I
Take
money
away
from
citizens
make
like
more
expensive
and
then
suddenly,
oh,
my
goodness,
they
see
the
light
they've
been
found,
and
now
here
they
are
bragging
to
the
citizens
that,
after
having
attacked
you
for
almost
our
whole
term,
we're
going
to
turn
that
around
and
we're
going
to
use
your
money
to
convince
you
that
that's
what
we've
done
you
know
if
you
want
to
create
cynicism
in
the
populace,
you
have
found
the
perfect
formula
for
doing
that,
and
you
do
that
very
well.
You
create
cynics
all
the
time
and
I
want
to
congratulate
you.
I
I've,
never
seen
a
government
that
did
a
better
job
of
that
and
I.
You
know,
I
find
it
very
discouraging
that
here
we
are
yet
again
seeing
the
government
actually
use
the
resources
of
the
province
of
Alberta
against
the
people
of
Alberta
by
creating
an
advertising
campaign
that
is
really
about
them,
trying
to
convince
the
population
to
ignore
90
percent
of
their
time
in
government
and
pretend
that
somehow
they
are
concerned
about
you,
after
increasing
your
rates,
taking
your
drug
coverage
away
after
causing
everything
to
be
more
expansive
after
suppressing
wages.
I
I
That
just
tells
us
that
even
they
recognize
what
they
did
was
wrong,
that
that
the
problems
that
they
created
with
their
policy
are
shameful,
and
apparently
they
do
have
a
bit
of
Shame
and
they
know
they
can't
go
out
and
face
the
electorate
at
this
particular
time
without
somehow
changing
what
they
actually
did
without
actually
reversing
their
policies,
because
their
policies
were
really
repugnant.
Policies
and
I
really
like
this
government
to
to
stop
using
government
funds
to
stop
using
6.6
million
dollars
of
the
the
money
of
the
citizens
of
this
this
province.
I
Who
could
use
that
money
for
other
other
kinds
of
things?
This
follows
in
line
with
lots
of
other
ways
in
which
they've
used
government
monies
for
their
own
individual
purposes.
I
mean
here
we
are
almost
four
years
later
and
none
of
us
still
know
what
the
War
Room
does.
I
None
of
us
have
ever
seen
anything
positive
or
useful,
come
out
of
that,
and
not
only
that
they
set
it
up.
So
we
couldn't
even
ask
questions
about
it.
We
couldn't
be
here
in
the
house
to
say
what
is
this
war
room
done,
because
whatever
it
is,
they
have
done
is
something
that
this
government
knows.
They
would
be
ashamed
to
tell
the
public
and,
of
course,
be
ashamed.
I
I'm,
coming
close
to
the
end
of
my
time
in
this
house
and
I
leave
this
house
very
discouraged.
The
government
has
gotten
to
this
place
that
that
we
see
a
government
that
is
not
people
seriously
concerned
about
the
well-being
of
people
in
this
province
and
is
only
concerned
about
maintaining
their
own
position
and
their
own
status.
I
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
I
just
have
to
respond
to
a
number
of
the
again
assertions.
The
member
opposite
has
made
not
only
around
the
supplementary
estimates
but
Madam
chair
fiscal
management
because
I
have
to
say
back
in
2019.
We
inherited
a
fiscal
train
wreck.
We'd
use
that
phrase
here
before
in
the
last
few
years,
but
Madam
chair
was
true.
We
were
spending
10
billion
dollars
more
according
to
Dr
Janice
McKinnon,
a
previous
NDP
Finance
Minister
in
the
great
province
of
Saskatchewan.
D
That
means
they're
spending
funds
today
at
the
expense
of
the
Next,
Generation
and
Madam
chair,
that's
unacceptable
to
albertans.
We
knew
that
we
were
elected
on
that
to
bring
fiscal
responsibility
back
to
this
province,
Madam
chair
and
that's
what
we've
done
I
have
to
say
the
member
opposite
made
the
assertion
that
we
had
cut
health
care
and
education.
Nothing
could
be
further
from
the
truth.
Madam
chair.
D
We
made
a
commitment
in
2019
to
all
albertans
that
while
we
would
bring
this
province
back
to
fiscal
responsibility,
we
would
not
cut
health
care
and
we
would
not
cut
education
and
Madam
chair
promised
made
promise
kept.
We
not.
We
increase
health
Care's
budget
every
year,
Madam
chair
every
year
this
year,
nearly
one
billion
dollars
and
Madam
chair
Madam
chair.
We
have
maintained
Health
Care's
funding.
We
have
an
education
minister
who
delivered
in
an
exemplary
way.
Madam
chair.
She
brought
forward
a
new
funding
formula
that
put
more
resources
in
the
classroom.
D
Madam
chair
resulted
in
more
efficiency
in
her
education
system
and
now
last
year
we
increased
the
education
budget
by
over
two
percent.
This
year,
Madam
chair
it's
an
increase
of
over
five
percent
and
and
Madam
chair.
We
heard
the
assertion
from
the
other
side
of
the
aisle
that
now
this
year
this
year
in
an
election
year,
we
can
increase
spending.
Well,
you
know
why
we
can
do
this.
Madam
chair
is
because
we
brought
fiscal
responsibility
to
the
province.
D
D
And
we
hear
the
members
opposite
talk
about
the
price
of
oil.
Tell
me
what
the
price
of
oil
has
to
do
with
bringing
expenditures
in
line
at
impact
is
short
of
a
few
dollars
for
the
minister
of
energy
to
cover
the
cost
of
selling
oil.
What
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
Madam
chair
is
ensuring
our
expending
is
sustainable,
because
Alberta
can
no
longer
afford
to
be
an
outlier.
That
was
the
principle.
D
We
used
that
principal
governed,
our
fiscal
decisions
for
three
years
and
now
and
now
we
as
albertans
broadly,
can
benefit
from
that
heavy
lifting,
and
we
can
ensure
that
we're
building
additional
schools
almost
twice
the
number
of
schools
built
or
upgraded
as
twice
the
number
of
schools
at
the
NDP
built
or
upgraded
during
their
term.
Why?
Because
we
brought
this
province
to
fiscal
responsibility.
When
will
you
invest
in
education?
D
Madam,
chair
I
have
to
point
out
one
other
piece
and
it's
important
because
again
certainly
albertans
and
Grand.
Prairie
Wapiti,
but
Madam
chair,
albertans,
broadly
wherever
I
travel
across
this
great
Province
are
concerned
about
fiscal
responsibility
because
they
know
this
that,
in
order
to
ensure
we
have
sustainable
programming
into
the
future,
world-class
Health
Care
system
for
our
children
and
our
grandchildren,
a
world-class
education
system
for
the
Next
Generation,
it
means
that
we
have
to
have
sustainable
spending
in
our
programming.
D
Madam
chairs,
it's
vitally
important
and
Madam
chair
I
asked
are
officials
in
our
Department
of
Treasury
board
and
finance.
Had
we
continued
on
the
spending
trajectory
of
the
members
opposite
when
they
were
in
government
considering
population
growth
and
inflation
Madam
chair
the
response
was
this:
we
would
be
spending
6.5
billion
dollars
more
per
year
of
four
billion
dollar
deficit
instead
of
a
two
and
a
half
billion
dollar
Surplus
and
here's
the
thing
Madam
chair,
the
members
opposite
were
spending
all
that
money
and
not
getting
any
better
results.
D
Madam
chair,
we
heard
the
assertion
that
somehow
we
have
dealt
unfairly
with
our
Union
partners
and
Madam
chair
that
that
is
simply
not
the
case.
We
have
a
principle
in
this
side
of
the
house
that
we
cannot
afford
to
be
a
spending
outlier.
We
worked
hard.
We
work
cooperatively
constructively
with
our
Union
partners
and
Madam
chair.
We
got
to
a
collective
bargaining
agreement
with
all
of
our
major
Union
tables
and
Madam
chair.
We
did
that
without
one
day
of
work
stoppage
without
one
strike
Madam
chair.
D
D
Madam
chair
that's
happening
in
this
province
today,
Alberta's
leading
the
nation
in
Real,
GDP
growth,
economic
growth,
our
economies,
diversifying
at
rates
have
not
seen
in
my
lifetime.
All
of
that
is
leading
to
a
more
stable
Revenue
structure
for
albertans.
All
of
that
is
leading
to
increased
revenues.
Madam
chair.
All
of
that
is
ensuring
the
Next
Generation
has
a
future
in
this
province.
D
The
the
members
across
the
way
had
one
move
and
one
move
only
a
rate
cap
that
that
constitutes
all
of
the
Innovative
creative
out
of
the
house.
A
rate
cap,
Madam
chair
a
rate
cap
for
any
length
of
time
results
in
diminished
offerings
by
Madam
chair
a
rate
cap
of
any
kind
for
any
length
of
time
results
in
a
lack
of
product
offerings.
D
Madam
chair,
we
have
temporarily
requested
the
rate
board
to
pause
increases
in
insurance
premium
requests
by
insurers
so
that
we
can
work
with
the
industry
to
find
additional
Solutions
and
we're
doing
that
like
we
did
in
bill
41.,
we
dealt
with
some
of
the
systemic
issues
that
were
push
adding
costs
to
our
automobile
insurance
system.
We
clarified
the
definition
of
a
minor
injury,
Madam
chair.
We
worked
on
additional
measures
that
resulted
in
more
care
for
injured
albertans.
All
of
this
Madam
chair
has
resulted
in
lower
premiums
than
what
they
would
have.
D
Otherwise
been
in
fact,
in
the
last
two
years
since
Bill
41
was
implemented,
automobile
insurance
rates
have
gone
up
on
average
1.4
percent
per
year,
and
that's
not
bad.
Considering
we've
been
in
a
time
of
high
inflation
Madam
chair,
but
we're
not
done
yet.
We
continue
to
work
with
the
industry
on
finding
additional
Solutions
Madam
chair.
Our
tenure
in
government.
Around
fiscal
management
is
about
sustainability.
It's
about
putting
this
province
on
a
trajectory
where
we're
not
robbing
from
the
Next
Generation
and
Madam
chair
mission,
accomplished
with
budget
23.
B
It's
a
reminder
to
all
members
of
this
house,
particularly
Edmonton
Rutherford,
Edmonton,
Beverly,
Clearview
and
Edmonton
Northwest,
that
there
is
ample
amounts
of
speaking
time
for
all
members
to
have
their
opportunity
at
the
floor.
Just
as
The
Honorable
member
for
Edmonton
Beverly
Clearview
was
rising
to
do
right
now
for
his
10-minute
block.
Would
you
like
to
share
your
time
or
take
it
all?
No.
H
Yeah
well
Madam
chair,
as
was
clearly
just
evidenced
by
my
colleague
on
the
opposite
side,
one
can
say
whatever
they
want
in
this
house,
regardless
of
how
close
to
the
truth
or
far
from
it.
It
may
be
now
all
talk
about
the
fact
that
the
Whopper
in
the
room
is
that
this
UCP
government,
under
my
respectable
colleague
on
the
other
side,
introduced
the
largest
deficit
budget
in
their
first
year
of
approximately
12
billion
dollars
larger
than
any
NDP
deficit
budget
in
their
first
term.
H
So
when
the
minister
talks
about
fiscal
responsibility,
I'd
like
to
remind
my
honorable
colleague
of
their
first
budget,
what
we're
talking
about
here,
I
will
clarify
I
will
welcome
all
of
the
heckles
from
the
other
side,
because
the
balanced
budget
was
reliant
on
the
global
price
of
oil,
which
was
over
a
hundred
dollars
per
barrel,
a
hundred
dollars
per
barrel
well,
between
2015
and
2019.
The
global
price
of
oil
dropped
below
27
dollars
per
barrel,
Madam
chair,
so
my
friends
on
the
opposite
side
can
spin
as
much
as
they
want.
H
H
Madam
chair
is
that
for
years
under
this
government
they
followed
suit
from
many
previous
governments,
which
was
to
slash
and
burn
for
the
first
three
years
and
in
the
fourth
year
you
throw
some
money
back
at
a
few
Ministries
and
claim
look
how
good
we
are.
Let's
here,
we'll
just
do
this
we'll
just
put
ourselves
on
the
back,
because
we've
restored
a
fraction
of
the
dollars
that
we've
cut
no
I'd
appreciate
if
the
member's
opposite
would
allow
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
the
other
irony,
Madam,
chair
and
I
hope.
H
H
H
Chirp
away
my
friends,
chirp
away
this
budget
and
I
appreciate
that
The
Honorable
finance
minister,
is,
is
getting
up
to
respond
and
Madam
chair
I
will
say
through
you
to
the
Finance
Minister
that
I
do
respect
him
and
I
do
respect
the
work
that
he's
done.
H
H
C
G
G
B
H
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
believe
I
only
have
a
couple
minutes
left
the
the
issue
that
I
have
with
supplementary
supplementaries.
Supply
are
the
dollars
that
are
allocated
to
advertising
on
the
even
election
and,
if
I
recall
correctly
ahead
of
the
2015
election,
members
of
the
opposition
were
screaming
at
the
government
for
spending
dollars
and
making
announcements
leading
up
to
the
election,
calling
for
a
ban
on
it.
H
H
They
are
also
experiencing
the
high
prices
of
inflation,
yet
they
get
no
supports.
I'd
love
to
hear
how
the
government
and
the
Finance
Minister
came
up
with
this
threshold
in
this
criteria.
How
did
the
government
cut
out
families
without
kids,
because
there
are,
everyone
is
suffering
from
inflation,
I,
don't
care
if
you
earn
100
million
or
a
million
a
year,
pardon
me
or
ten
thousand
a
Year.
Everybody
is
feeling
the
effects
of
inflation.
H
A
higher
level
of
integrity
than
what's
currently
being
presented
in
this
budget,
because
I've
been
through
several
terms
as
an
opposition.
Member
listening
to
the
opposition,
talk
about
the
government
abusing
its
ability
to
spend
taxpayer
dollars
to
buy
votes
and
members
I
appreciate
a
response
from
the
minister,
but
that's
exactly
what
this
10
million
dollars
on
Advertising
ahead
of
a
general
election,
looks
like.
D
On
one
side,
the
members
opposite
say
that
the
only
reason
Alberta's
in
Surplus,
the
only
reason
we
can
pay
for
healthcare
and
education
is
our
world-class
energy
sector.
But
on
the
other
side
they
want
to
shut
it
down.
I
mean
what
an
awkward
place
to
be
socialists
and
anti-energy
Alberta,
what
an
awkward
place
to
hold
those
ideologies.
D
They've
also
said
that
the
only
reason
we've
balanced
the
budget
is
because
of
revenues,
but
for
three
years
they've
been
saying
that
we've
been
making
adjustments
to
budgets
and
bringing
things
in
line
and
they've
disagreed
with
those
necessary
fiscal
adjustments.
So
again
you
can't
have
it
both
ways
now
to
the
only
question
that
was
in
that
10
minutes,
the
6.6
million
5
million
advertising
campaign
I
forgot
to
mention
that
that's
resulted
in
1.2
million
albertans
enrolling
in
the
affordability
payment
program.
D
D
D
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
that
the
5
million
in
advertising
was
to
advertise
the
affordability
Suite,
including
the
affordability
payments.
We've
had
one
just
about
1.2
million
albertans
enroll
on
that
program,
close
to
a
million
in
three
weeks,
I
think
that's
remarkable,
I
think
the
technology
and
Innovation
and
all
the
all
the
Departments
and
Ministries
involved.
My
hat
is
off
to
them
because
they
they
pulled
it
together
very
quickly.
D
A
great
program
so
I'll
invite
my
colleagues
to
take
the
rest
of
my
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
s
what
the
members
opposites
spend
advertising
on.
You
know:
climate,
carbon
tax
and
farm
safety
legislation
that
nobody
wanted
and
power
purchase
agreements
that
cost
albertans
billions
and
albertans
responded
to
those
advertisements
by
voting
them
out.
D
B
J
I'm
honored
to
rise
tonight
to
talk
about
the
supplementary
Supply
2023
estimates
and
I
have
to
tell
you
I've,
been
sitting
here.
Listening
to
the
minister
of
affordability
and
utilities,
attempt
to
justify
blowing
10
million
on
pre-election
Advertising,
including
over
6
million
in
his
ministry
and
I,
have
to
tell
you
that
he
is
not
selling
it.
J
This
government
seems
to
think
that
albertans
are
just
simply
unaware
that
an
election
is
coming
up
and
that
this
is
a
last-ditch
effort
for
this
government
to
spend
taxpayer
dollars
to
advertise
to
the
public,
and
there
were
so
many
upset
individuals
on
Friday
talking
about
how
a
gross
use
of
funding
that
this
is
10
million
of
taxpayer
dollars
to
to
Simply
promote.
What
this
government
is
saying
is
advertising
for
affordability,
albertans
are
buying
it.
J
The
money
that
they're
spending
on
Advertising
pre-election
should
be
spent
on
things
that
albertans
are
talking
about
things
that
are
impacting
albertans,
Health
Care.
You
know
it.
It
seems
that
this
government
is
saying
the
health
care
crisis
is
over.
Yet
we
are
hearing
heartbreaking
stories
from
all
across
the
province
of
albertans
that
are
in
healthcare
crisis.
J
They
can't
access,
Family,
Physicians,
they're,
waiting,
incredible
amounts
of
time
to
to
receive
Diagnostic
Imaging.
There's
things
that
this
money
should
have
been
spent
on,
not
on
Advertising
right
before
an
election,
and
so
listening
to
the
minister
attempt
to
justify
it.
Albertans
don't
buy
it
Madam
chair
they're,
he
said
they
don't
have
to,
and
you
know
the
the
proof
in
that
will
be
on
on
May
29th
when
albertans
get
to
to
really
decide
what
is
is
happening
and
just
listening
to
the
conversations
that
are
happening
around
kitchen
tables
all
across
the
province.
J
Albertans
are
very
aware
that
this
money
that's
being
spent
on
Advertising,
is
a
last-ditch
effort
to
try
and
get
albertans
to
buy
the
messaging
that
they're
selling.
We
watch
them
for
four
years
attack
doctors,
nurses,
teachers
and
now
they're
coming
out
saying
that
you
know
they
have
all
of
these
great
ideas
right
before
an
election
and
unfortunately,
Madam
chair.
J
B
Thank
you.
Well
members.
We
are
now
on
our
next
round
of
questions.
We
will
go
to
the
government's
caucus
for
the
next
20
minute
block,
we'll
start
with
a
private
member
of
the
government
to
ask
questions
of
the
government
and
go
from
there
The
Honorable
member
for
Sherwood
Park.
Would
you
like
to
share
your
10-minute
block
with
the
minister
or
take
it
all.
K
Succeed
well.
Thank
you.
Madam
speaker.
Madam
chair.
It's
a
an
honor
to
rise
tonight
to
speak
in
supplementary
Supply,
the
estimates
for
2023,
and
it
was
a
great
honor
as
well
to
be
a
member
of
Treasury
board.
This
coming
this
past
cycle.
I
would
say
too
that
I'm
really
excited
now
to
speak
through
you
to
the
energy
Minister
on
his
own
estimates
in
here
in
supplementary
Supply.
Just
such
a
good
story,
we're
telling
it's
my
understanding.
Madam
chair,
we
are
now
at
24.
K
What
an
amazing
turnaround,
in
a
contrast
just
even
from
2015
to
2019,
when
the
former
government
devastated
our
energy
sector,
I
would
also
say,
as
someone
where
who
represents
a
great
constituency
of
Sherwood
Park
Madame
chair
where
the
energy
sector
is
foundational
to
my
local
economy
and,
of
course,
Alberta's
economy
with
three
refineries
and
the
industrial
Heartland
shared
here
with
some
other
members,
my
community
produces
75
percent
of
all
petrochemicals
in
Canada,
and
my
community
produces
two-thirds
of
all
oil
refined
in
western
Canada.
K
So
this
is
very
important
to
my
community
and
all
Alberta's
Prosperity
I.
Think
I
would
begin
with
my
question
to
the
minister
Madam
chair.
We
all
know
that
this
past
year
has
been
very
interesting
for
our
energy
sector,
given
the
sudden
rise
in
global
Energy
prices
that
occurred.
Therefore,
I
am
not
very
shocked
to
see
that
your
ministry,
in
particular,
has
listed
a
decent
amount
of
supplementary
budget
estimates
in
this
document.
K
However,
a
few
do
stand
out
for
me
line
item
three
on
page
39
of
the
2022-23
supplementary
Supply
estimate
shows
that
the
cost
of
selling
oil
was
330
7.6
million
dollars
higher
than
the
initial
80
million
point.
One
estimate,
as
I
previously
stated,
our
oil
sector
was
booming
this
past
year
and
we've
turned
it
around.
It's
just
absolutely
a
great
news
story:
Investments
come
back,
and
this
government's
been
a
big
part
of
that.
K
Lowering
the
the
tax
burden,
making
a
light,
predictable
regulatory
environment,
reducing
red
tape,
Etc
but
I
do
want
some
clarity
on
this
minister
so
question
one:
can
you
provide
a
breakdown
of
the
cost
borne
by
this
government
that
are
associated
with
selling
oil
and
question?
Two
on
this
line
of
questioning
is
it
relatively
common
to
see
such
a
massive
increase
in
these
costs
when
oil
prices
are
up
or
did
the
suddenness
of
the
price
change
account
for
some
of
these
extra
costs?
I
think
I'll
start
there
as
we
go
back
and
forth
Madam
chair
when.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
Remember
yeah.
You
had
mentioned
off
the
top
about
production
and
yeah.
I.
Think
right
now
we're
around
4
million
barrels
a
day
in
production.
Our
pipeline
capacity
is
probably
sitting
around
4.5
million
and
with
tmx's,
as
we
heard
with
the
the
recent
news
coming
online
that'll.
Add
another
590
000
to
our
capacity
with
some
optimization
that
I
think
we're
hearing
from
the
industry.
E
There
could
be
another
350,
000
plus
that
could
come
online,
so
increasing
our
capacity
to
maybe
somewhere
around
five
and
a
half
million
barrels.
So
I
think
we
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
Runway
ahead
of
us
there,
maybe
looking
at
certainly
10
to
15
years,
where
that's
concerned.
Now.
As
far
as
the
cost
of
selling
oil
is
concerned,
it
should
be
known
that
we
made
some
changes
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
cost
of
selling
oil.
E
It
used
to
be
that
we
were.
We
take
oil
and
kind
on
the
conventional
side
and
we
were
only
marketing
about
10
percent
of
that
not
ourselves,
and
we
were
hiring
out
the
other
90
percent.
Now
some
of
the
costs
that
were
born
there
were
going
to
be
similar,
but
there
also
was
a
cost
to
paying
for
that
service.
E
E
E
As
you
know,
we've
seen
huge
variability
in
prices
over
these
last
few
years,
which
can
make
it
difficult
when
trying
to
establish
it
a
firm
price
for
that
for
that
cost
of
oil,
so
as
prices
increase,
typically
the
the
volumes
that
are
being
offloaded
increase
and
when
those
volumes
increase
the
total
cost
associated
with
marketing.
Those
barrels
also
goes
up
and
the
variable
costs
associated
with
that
are
pipeline
tolls,
crude
oil
and
condensate
purchases,
Trucking
expenses
and
marketing
fees
and
all
Crown
barrels
move
from
the
Wellhead
to
to
Market
by
truck
or
pipeline.
E
E
Now
to
your
second
question:
the
cost
of
selling
oil
reflects
the
the
high
energy
prices
that
we've
been
seeing.
As
mentioned
in
the
forecast
increases
in
crude
oil
prices
are
driving
up
the
forecast
of
producer
royalty
volumes
per
the
mid-year
fiscal
update.
Producer
royalty
volumes
were
forecasted
to
increase
at
approximately
69
700
barrels
per
day
from
budgeted
volumes
of
approximately
fourteen
thousand
three
hundred.
E
So
obviously,
along
with
that
you're
going
to
get
a
significant
increase
in
the
cost
of
selling
oil,
when
you
establish
a
volume
increase
like
that,
so
the
increased
royalty
volumes
just
give
rise
to
the
increase
in
crude
oil
pricing.
K
Well,
thank
you.
Miss
I
mean
to
the
minister
of
energy,
I
would
say
through
you,
Madam
chair
for
those
informative
answers,
and
so
what
I'm
hearing?
What
is
so
great
and
my
constituents
are
so
happy
to
hear,
is
through
supporting
our
energy
sector
and
we're
experiencing
great
prosperous
times,
because
in
part,
we're
also
supporting
our
wonderful
energy
sector.
K
We
were
able
to
put
forward
in
table
as
we're
seeing
here
tonight,
fiscally
responsible
budget
that
helps
albertans
on
affordability,
on
health
care
and
education,
while
also
balancing
the
budget
so
I'm
so
proud,
and
it's
so
great
to
learn.
I
would
also
say
that
I'm
also
so
happy
that
we're
now
producing
record
levels
of
energy,
including
oil
here
in
Alberta.
This
is
a
great
story,
and
in
this
moment
we're
in
in
the
current
world
order.
K
Alberta
needs
to
continue
to
be
the
energy
arsenal
of
democracy
across
the
world
to
be
the
supplier
of
preference
for
places
such
as
Europe
Japan,
East
Asia,
especially
in
light
of
the
unlawful
Invasion
by
Vladimir
Putin
of
Ukraine,
and
so
I
call
on
every
member
of
this
house
to
support
that
position.
We
need
pipeline
capacity
to
British
Columbia
through
Canada
across
the
North
American
grid,
to
supply
our
allies
and
partners
in
around
the
world.
K
East
Asia
and
Europe,
which
also
through
LNG
and
hydrogen
I,
would
say
to
you,
madam
chair
and
through
you
to
to
the
minister,
lowers
carbon
emissions.
So
it's
a
win-win
all
the
way
around.
Let's
support
Northern
Gateway,
let's
support
energy
East,
so
on
site,
Rehabilitation
Minister.
This
is
another
interesting
topic
now
this
can
be
found
on
line
4.1
on
page
39
of
the
same
document.
K
The
supplementary
estimates
for
this
program
are
278.6
million
dollars
higher
than
the
initial
estimate
of
297.2
million
I
understand
stand
from
Looking
Back
Now
to
page
38
that
some
of
these
extra
expenses
were
the
result
of
revised
Federal
program.
Time
frames
a
couple
of
questions
here:
could
you
expand
on
these
revised
time
frames
and
why
the
federal
government
felt
them
to
be
necessary,
and
could
you
also
expand
on
how
many
of
these
extra
costs
were
caused
by
revised
time
frames
and
how
many
were
the
result
of
other
factors
we'll
go
from
there?
Yeah.
E
Thank
you
for
that.
This
program
was
a
huge
success
and
actually
came
in
in
a
time
when,
when
Alberta
really
needed
it,
the
site
rehabilitation
program
has
been
a
big
success.
With
approximately
a
billion
dollars
of
federal
oil
and
gas
relief
funding.
We
don't
usually
get
too
much
from
the
federal
government,
but
we
were
certainly
happy
to
get
this.
E
This
helped
to
put
albertans
back
to
work
by
speeding
up
well
pipeline
facility
and
site
closure
efforts
in
the
energy
sector,
and
we
we
saw
this
afternoon
with
I
think
it
was
motion
505
that
the
opposition
had
put
forward
there
and
it
was
about
having
no
incentives
ever
in
in
a
sector
and
that
wouldn't
have
included
this
SRP
program,
which
was
a
big
success.
We
had
negative
oil
pricing
at
that
time.
E
We
needed
to
put
albertans
back
to
work
and
and
to
to
try
to
keep
companies
afloat
and-
and
that's
what
this
program
did.
E
So
this
resulted
in
additional
sites
having
closure
work,
take
place,
continued
support
for
oil
services
companies
and
continued
work
with
indigenous
communities
and
companies
participating
within
the
program.
To
your
second
point
and
the
success
of
this
program,
you
know
there
were
approaching
we
we
had
some
a
federal
government
extensions
that
were
required
and
over
the
original
work,
the
completion
deadline,
I
believe,
was
supposed
to
be
December
31st
of
2022.
E
We
had
to
extend
that
out
slightly
and
while
it
was,
you
know
not
possible
to
exactly
pinpoint
the
impacts
of
these
actions
separately.
There
was
a
combined
impact
that
led
to
increase
in
the
number
of
applications
in
the
fourth
quarter,
but
in
doing
so
it
did
allow
us
to
to
fill
the
full
one
billion
dollar
allocation
and
due
to
the
increase
in
these
applications
and
approved
for
for
Grants
the
program
closure
date,
we
ended
with
was
February
14th
of
this
year,
where
the
additional
funds
are
allocated.
E
K
You
so
much
I
would
say
through
you,
madam
chair
to
the
minister,
for
those
questions.
I
I
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
site.
Rehabilitation
topic
here,
as
it
relates
to
the
questions
I
asked
I
now
want
to
move
to
pet
chem
again
another
big
Alberta
success
story.
K
It's
one
of
our
many
economic
gems
that
drives
Prosperity
right
across
our
Province
you're
talking
roughly
around
40
companies
with
40
billion
dollars
of
investment
already
existing
there,
since
it
was
established
in
1997.,
an
amazing
story
and
I
would
just
say
over
the
term
of
our
government
through
AP
tip
through
the
disease
designation,
as
well
as
the
special
Municipal
property
taxes.
We
have
made
sure
that
the
industrial
Heartland
and
our
pet
chem
industry
in
general
remains
globally
competitive
as
we
compete
for
Capital
across
the
world,
particularly
with
the
Gulf
Coast
So.
K
Speaking
specifically
to
the
pet
chemical
initiative
here,
as
per
the
supplementary
Supply
estimates,
is
another
very
interesting
program.
Minister,
we
can
see
it
detailed
on
line
four
of
page
39
of
the
supplementary
Supply
estimates
and
I
noticed
that
an
additional
10.8
million
dollars
was
allocated
to
this
program.
Despite
there
being
no
initial
estimate,
so
two
questions
Minister.
Could
you
expand
on
this
program
and
what
it
entails
in
general
through
the
chair?
Of
course?
Why?
B
E
The
Alberta
petch
chemical
incentive
programmer
AP,
you
know,
makes
us
a
very
competitive
and
and
bringing
in
to
long-term
Investments
and
thousands
of
jobs
to
the
province
and
apip
stands
ready
to
invest.
12
percent
of
Capital
costs
for
any
petrochemical
facility.
That's
going
to
use
natural
gas
as
a
feedstock
and
I
I
can
tell
you
that,
in
the
travels
that
I've
had
recently
going
to
Norway
and
Germany
and
down
to
the
States
and
talking
about
this
particular
program,
it's
it
has
generated
a
lot
of
interest.
E
People
sit
up
and
and
take
note
when
you're,
when
you're
looking
at
a
program,
that's
going
to
be
covering
10
to
12
percent
of
capital
costs
and
then,
when
we
start
talking
about
carbon
capture
and
the
availability
of
pore
space
and
the
great
work
that
we've
done
here
and
the
fact
that
we
we
have
two
functioning
carbon
capture
facilities,
one
shell
Quest
that
started
in
2015
and
then
the
Alberta
carbon
trunk
line
in
2019
and
both
of
which
have
I
think
together
sequestered
over
10
million
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
and
are
doing
about
two
and
three
quarter
million
tons
a
year
going
forward.
E
So
you
know
projects
that
you
know
they.
They
must
meet
several
criteria.
To
answer
your
question,
the
project
must
be
physically
located
in
Alberta.
Of
course,
the
capital
costs
must
be
at
least
50
million
dollars.
E
Facility
must
use
natural
gas,
Natural,
Gas,
Liquids
or
petrochemical
intermediates,
such
as
ethylene
propylene,
Benzene
Etc
in
the
manufacturing
of
its
own
products,
and
the
project
must
create
permanent
jobs
in
Alberta.
An
eligible
project
with
a
capital
investment
greater
than
150
million,
must
complete
construction
and
declare
to
be
in
service
within
the
10-year
time
frame
from
the
launch
of
the
program
for
these
types
of
programs,
the
full
amount
of
the
earned
Grant
will
be
paid
over
the
expiry
of
the
program
in
three
equal
installments
over
36
month
periods.
E
So
the
company-
that's
investing,
is
coming
here,
they're,
putting
in
all
of
their
costs.
They
are
employing
all
those
construction
workers
they
get
the
the
facility
up
and
running,
and
then
Alberta
puts
in
its
money
a
year
after
the
fact
and
then
three
equal
installments
thereafter,
so
that
investment
is
made
they're
not
going
anywhere
they're
right
here
in
Alberta
on
their
taxpayers.
By
the
time
we
start
putting
our
money
in.
So
it's
it's
well
worth
it.
E
Our
dedicated
production
facilities
are
eligible.
So
that
means
too,
that
the
Midstream
refining
storage
Transportation
ongoing
maintenance
costs.
Those
are
not
covered
under
the
program,
but
new
facilities
that
are
Brownfield,
D,
bottlenecking
and
expansions
to
existing
facilities
will
be
eligible,
so
costs
eligible
for
reimbursement
under
apip
are
related
to
manufacturing
and
processing.
Capital
expenditures.
E
To
your
second
point
through
the
chair,
Madam,
chair,
apip
is
already
proving
successful
and
you
know,
as
as
a
result
actually
of
the
first
Funding
payment.
That's
what
we're
seeing
here
is
for
Dow
chemicals
Capital
project.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
seeing
reflected
here,
but
in
the
future
we
are
going
to
see
some
others
like,
inter
pipelines,
Heartland
complex,
Air,
Products
I.
E
Think
you
will
recall
that
announcement
and
through
the
chair
you
will
recall
that
hundred
and
or
1.6
billion
dollar
project
that
they
announced
to
supply
hydrogen
to
Imperial
and
Dao
Canada
and
Fort
Saskatchewan.
So
these
ones
are
going
to
come
through.
B
Numbers
that
concludes
the
government
caucus
time.
We
will
now
move
on
to
the
10-minute
blocks,
combining
time
or
going
back
and
forth
between
the
official
opposition,
independent
members
and
private
government
members.
Just
a
reminder
to
direct
your
comments
through
the
chair
not
directly
towards
each
other
and
that
we
are
on
debating
supplementary
Supply
estimates.
It's
a
green
book
if
anyone
needs
a
copy,
I'm
happy
to
get
a
page
to
bring
you
one
look
forward
to
the
debate
for
the
rest
of
this
evening.
B
B
Seeing
none
any
members
of
the
government
caucus
seeing
none
I
will
call
the
question.
We
shall
now
proceed
to
the
final
vote
on
supplementary
Supply
estimates.
Those
members
in
favor
of
the
resolutions
for
the
2022-23
supplementary
Supply
estimates,
General
Revenue
fund
for
the
fiscal
year
ending
March,
31st
2023,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
that
is
carried.
Shall
the
vote
be
reported.
Are
you
agreed
any
opposed
carried
I
would
now
like
to
invite
The
Honorable
Deputy
government
whip
to
move
that
the
committee
rise
and
Report
the
2022-23
supplementary
Supply
estimates,
General
Revenue
fund.
B
A
K
Park.
Thank
you,
madam
speaker.
The
committee
of
supply
has
had
under
consideration
certain
resolutions
reports
as
follows,
and
requests
leave
to
sit
again.
The
following
resolutions
relating
to
the
2022-23
supplementary
Supply
estimates
for
the
General
Revenue
fund
for
the
fiscal
year,
ending
March
31st
2023
have
been
approved:
Advanced
education,
Financial
transactions,
11
million,
six
hundred
twenty
six
thousand
dollars;
affordability
and
utilities,
expense,
354
million
932
thousand
dollars,
Financial
transactions,
254
million,
two
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
dollars.
B
I,
remember:
does
the
assembly
concur
in
the
report?
All
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
opposed,
please
say
no
is
carried
introduction
of
bills.
The
Honorable,
president
of
no
president
of
Treasury,
Board
of
Minister
of
Finance.
D
Thank
you,
madam
speaker.
I
request
leave
to
introduce
Bill
12
the
appropriation
supplementary
Supply
act,
2023
this
being
a
money
Bill
her
honor,
The
Honorable.
The
lieutenant
governor
having
been
informed
of
the
contents
of
this
bill,
recommends
the
same
to
the
assembly.
Build
12
will
provide
Authority
for
government
to
pay
from
the
General
Revenue
fund
for
additional
costs
that
are
not
already
covered
or
otherwise
provided
for
during
the
current
fiscal
year.
As
call
my
colleagues
in
this
legislative
assembly
to
support
the
bill.
B
The
Honorable,
president
of
Treasury
board,
Minister
of
Finance,
has
moved
first
reading
of
Bill
12
the
appropriation
supplementary
Supply
act
2023
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
for
first
reading,
please
say
aye,
we
opposed.
Please
say
no,
that
is
carried
well
appropriation.
Supplementary
Supply
act.
2023
is
now
read
a
first
time.