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The
first
one
is
presentation
by
part
tax
advisory
board
on
recommended
allocations
of
the
2019
2020
part
tax
funds,
and
if
I
could
start
off,
I
would
just
want
to
thank
you
Brian
and
for
the
good
work
that
your
committee
has
done
to
get
it
to
this
point,
especially
with
the
limited
circumstances
with
the
virus,
and
we
have
a
great
committee.
We
recognize
that
and
we
thank
you
from
the
bottom
of
our
hearts
for
all
the
work
and
preparation.
That's
brought
it
to
this
point.
So
that
being
said,
we'd
turn
the
time
over
to
you.
B
C
You
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council
you're
right
I
do
that
go
your
no
praise
for
the
committee.
They
are
just
very
diligent
and
thorough
in
their
assessment
of
these
different
requests
have
come
across
for
our
Park
funds.
Well,
let
me
preface
my
remarks
by
first
saying
we
started
in
the
path
thinking
we
had
more
money
available
to
allocate
and
then
the
coab
in
nineteen
happened.
C
So
we
had
to
pare
back
our
allocation
from
about
1.15
million
to
about
920
so
lost
that
two
or
three
thousand
dollars
is
because
of
that
some
projects
had
their
Lords
cut
back
or
eliminate
completely
just
because
we
had
to
find
out
where
were
the
greatest
areas
of
need
or
things
that
were
most
most
impactful
to
the
community.
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
can
go
down
this
this
list.
The
dup
is
the
first
one.
This
is
the
smallest
one.
C
By
far
you
know
they
they
always
remind
me
of
if
you
remember,
It's,
a
Wonderful
Life.
You
had
that
old,
lady
and
there's
a
run
on
the
bank,
and
she
all
she
wants
is
20
bucks
and
Jimmy
Stewart,
almost
hugs
her,
because
she
just
had
simple
needs.
Well.
Dup
is
like
that
they
have
very
simple
needs
and
$1,200
for
celebration.
The
tell
us
was
was
really.
C
There
was
no
point
contend
to
know
that
we
support
them
and
I'm
trying
to
maintain
history,
what
they
do
and
where
they
are
a
CT
they,
they
asked
for
quite
a
bit
more
funding
for
both
productions,
as
they
have
in
previous
years,
and
they
also
asked
for
some
some
wireless
mics
and
the
last
year.
We
provide
them
with
a
sound
board,
and
this
year
we
didn't
have
the
means
to
provide
them
with
mics,
and
we
felt
this
was
a
fair
contribution
we
can
make
to
one
or
both
their
programs.
C
It
depends
on
what
they
can
do.
We
don't
know
when
Co
219
will
allow
them
to
engage
in
regular
performances,
but
we
thought
this
was
a
fair,
fair
recommendation
for
their
programs
this
year,
these
next
two
our
carryover
projects.
Every
year
the
Friends
of
the
Norfolk
library
have
done
the
dictionary
project
and
also
the
book
fair
projects,
we're
fully
supported
with
them,
and
we
we
fully
funding
the
dictionaries
and
mostly
fund
the
book
very
project.
We
had
to
cut
back
there
in
some
cases,
just
because
of
needs
elsewhere.
C
Last
year
the
new
friends
quote:
circle
was
a.
They
were
a
new
addition
and
in
terms
of
requesting
a
grant-
and
we
funded
some
tables-
know
their
equipment
needed.
They
needs
that
they
had,
and
this
year
they
had
asked
for
a
number
of
sewing
machines
and
also
supporting
their
quilts
of
Valor
project,
which
we
fully
support
on
the
themes
they
were
asking
for.
I
think
maybe
ten
machines.
We
were
able
to
give
enough
money
here
to
pay
for
four
sewing
machines.
C
On
the
Harrington
Center
for
the
Arts
fest
Harrington's
submitted
a
number
of
requests
as
well,
and
we
look
back
on
previous
years
and
the
court
fest
of
the
res
accessible
last
year
and
because
that
funded
them
more
last
year
than
funded
more
this
year,
the
fork
fest,
because
we
saw
what
they
could
do
with
that
that
amount
of
money
and
they
had
certain.
You
know
quite
a
bit
of
personal
investment
in
that
project.
C
When
he's
very
successful
at
the
choc
fest
also,
it
was
the
first
time
and
we
felt
that
they
did
a
good
job
managing
it
last
year.
We
would.
We
would
carry
that
over
this
year,
the
walls
we
did
not
fund
at
all
we
didn't
last
year.
We
felt
that
they
they
could
find
out
cells,
they
did
the
previous
year,
and
so
we
felt
that
because
limited
funds-
we
wouldn't
begin
being
here
and
that's
why
we
didn't
list
that
as
a
funding
funding.
C
The
concerts
in
the
park
we've
given
some
guidance
that
2750
give
you
a
single
concert,
so
initially
they
had
proposed
for
concerts.
We
paired
that
back
in.
We
could
fund
two
and
they
still
have
some
questions
about.
This
is
next
year.
What
about
the
current
year
and
I'm,
not
sure
what
arrangements
have
been
made
for
funding
the
current
year
concerts
if
and
when
they
do
happen,
but
that's
that's
a
separate
conversation,
but
this
is
for
two
concerts
next
year.
C
Why
set
to
dance
is
a
new
entrant
this
year
and
you
have
a
different
way
of
presenting
dance
where
it's
more,
there
you're
the
right
there,
with
the
crowd
doing
some
different
things.
We
thought
this
was
a
worthwhile
thing
to
express
dance
in
a
different
way
for
this
year.
Thibodeau
is
Arts
Foundation.
C
A
lot
on
the
revenue
we
repaired
back
even
more
some
of
the
amount
we
would
give
them
as
the
way
to
force
them
to
say,
become
more
self-sufficient,
sustaining
or
maybe
pare
back
some
of
these
programs
that
only
nine
groups
may
be
there.
It
make
sense
to
have
fewer,
especially
those
that
are
very
cost
intensive,
that
are
lied
on
the
revenue
generation
and
then
the
admin
the
admin
asked
was
was
cutback
quite
as
well.
So
this
is.
C
This
is
les
never
seen
in
any
previous
year,
but
we
also
feel
he
said
they
have
some
in
the
bank
from
last
year
that
they
could
use
to
sustain
some
of
their
programs,
the
table
Symphony
last
year.
They
did
an
educational
concert
at
Barrett
and
there
was
more
of
a
space
centered
theme
and
it
was
very
successful
for
all
the
kids
and
they
should
have
chosen
Greenwood
as
a
as
their
sponsor
and
location
because
of
the
title
in
school.
We
felt
this
was
another
good
use
of
the
park
funds,
the
library
reading
room.
C
Last
year
we
had
a
portion
some
a
small
portion
of
funding
that
we
wanted
to
use
to
do
some
preliminary
planning
to
see
if,
if
this
was
going
to
be
a
good
use
of
park-
and
this
is
funding-
and
we
felt
it
was-
and
we
funded
partially
under
ten
thousand
dollars
this
year
on
top
of
the
mountain
last
year.
We
think
this
gives
a
good
jumpstart
into
that
reading.
Room
and
hopefully
the
city
has
some
capital
budgeting
improvement,
ability
to
add
to
this
and
augment
the
funding
that
Park
is
recommending
for
that
as
well.
C
Our
Dyke
park,
that
is,
that's
the
commit
we
made
a
few
years
back
and
I
Drive
there
at
least
weekly
and
impressed
with
what's
being
done
there.
It
is
beautiful
and
I
think
this
was
a
one
of
the
best
uses
we've
had
of
these
funds
to
make
sure
we
complete
this
park
and
making
a
regional
park
of
some
significance
because
it
had
this
last
one
was
a
kind
of
a
late
entrant.
C
We
had
never
considered
this
much
in
a
couple
years
ago.
There
was
some
talk
about
doing
lessons
or
something
out
there,
but
I
think
because
matching
funds
became
available
and
AmeriCorps
has
never
been
a
large
beneficiary
of
some
of
these
matching
funds.
We
had
an
opportunist
year
to
receive
a
healthy
dose
of
those
from
the
county
and
others,
and
so
we
thought
these
are
way
we
find
out.
Then,
when
you
can,
we
allow
some
of
these
funds
to
come
from
to
help
procure
some
of
these
matching
funds.
The
initial
ask
was
$300,000.
C
We
can't,
with
half
of
that
I
realized
that
we
could
do
this
over
a
couple
of
years
and
not
jeopardize
the
full
match,
and
so
we're
we're
hoping
to
do
that.
The
next
installment
the
following
year,
but
we
think
that
this
allows
a
great
opportunity
and
that
entire
portion
of
the
lake
in
the
boat
harbor
area
it
would
make
it
a
destination.
Word
has
not
been
much
of
one.
C
In
the
past,
we
were
press
efficiently
that
we
we
did
pair
backs
and
some
of
the
area's
just
to
allow
additional
funding
here
the
positive
over
two
years.
We
could
procure
the
full
funding.
Those
were
the
projects
that
we
did
fund
the
one
who
did
not.
We
talked
about
some
of
those
wireless
mics.
We
talked
about
that.
Are
we
cut
back
on
some
of
the
the
other
friends
library
had
a
part?
Two
of
that?
Yes,
we
cut
back
on
that
the
laws
we
talked
about.
C
The
asset
playgrounds
were
awesome,
but
at
three
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
ability
to
fund
that
right
now,
I've
seen
some
great
playgrounds
in
the
county,
and
they
are
very,
very
nice.
But
given
the
limited
corpus
of
a
park
funds
right
now,
that's
not
the
best
use
for
the
set
of
awesome
playgrounds,
we'll
just
take.
We
have
good
playgrounds
and
we'll
stick
with
the
good.
For
now,
the
cocoa
restroom
would
completed
the
cocoa
project.
We
spend
live
over
the
past
several
years
and
make
improvements
there.
C
This
would
be
nice
and
has
been
at
the
lower
portion
of
Krell
Cove,
but
there
again
I
think
with
the
boat
harbor,
we
redirected
a
lot
of
funds.
It
could
have
gone
to
something
like
that
to
procure
those
matching
funds,
benches
tables
and
trees.
We
have
funded
those
every
year,
except
for
this
year
there
again
because
redirecting
those
funds
elsewhere,
the
trail
we
asked
there
was
$300,000
and
I
think
that
was
a
good,
a
good
suggestion,
but
there
again
limited
funding.
We
couldn't
just
give
a
small
token
amount.
C
Maybe
this
is
something
that
between
the
city
and
mag
that
can
be
completed
outside
of
park
funding.
The
the
dal-su
course
was
a
way
to
I
guess:
increase
the
draw
at
the
pool
between
the
obstacle
course
and
also
the
climbing
wall,
and
this
would
be
a
good
enhancement
to
the
pool
without
there
again
with
the
shade
structures
that
we've
funded
last
year.
C
Whatever
the
expanse
and
same
thing,
that
was
going
to
be
vacating,
another
racquetball
court
and
they
are
again
I
think
between.
We
thought
that
was
another
project
that
could
fall
on
the
capital
improvement
side
of
things
would
be
the
city
and
their
resources.
This
corporate
replacement
initially
had
this
funded
to
replace
an
outdated
equipment
in
these
parks,
but
then
I
think
when
the
boat
harbor
happened.
This
was
a
casualty
and
we
took
the
funding
away
from
that
and
devoted
toward
the
boat
harbor
project
with
the
Fox
golf
and
driving
range.
C
We've
we've
done
a
few
things
over
the
years
with
the
Fox
Hollow
to
support
them,
and
there
again
we
thought
that
these
two
projects,
while
worthwhile
there
may
be
something
the
future
or
there
may
be
a
billy
for
the
three
cities
to
share
and
doing
something
like
this,
but
we
just
really
the
boat
harbor
was
important
enough
that
we
took
away
from
some
of
these
other
projects
that
were
worthy,
but
we
thought
that
the
boat
harbor
present
a
better
opportunity
for
the
city
use
of
the
park
funds.
So
that
is
my
brief
overview
questions.
Oh.
F
I'll
start:
nobody
else
wants
to
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
Brian.
If
I
remember
right,
we
actually
did
provide
some
money
for
the
boat
Harbor
before
in
other
years
and
it
never
got
used
because
there
were
some
problems
or
something
so
I'm
wondering
what
the
feasibility
is
of
actually
getting
something
done
at
the
boat
harbor.
If
I
remember
correctly,
if
something
to
do
with
water,
water
lines,
water.
C
Go
do
something
there
and
then
that
was
going
to
be
problematic,
very
much
more
expensive,
and
so
they
paired
that
back.
That's
my
recollection
of
why
we
did
not
find
the
restroom
at
that
time.
K
B
L
And
Derek
and
here's
part
of
it
too,
you
can
clarify
if
it
needs
to
also
my
understanding
is
what
was
previously
funded
through
the
park
tax
was
to
give
a
better
sorry.
I
forgot
that
I
was
blank
to
was
to
do
a
bathroom
redo,
the
bathroom
there,
and
it
would
have
been
a
vault
bathroom
and
we
received
funding,
and
then
we
found
out
after
the
fact
that
the
county
was
not
gonna
allow
of
all
bathrooms
along
the
lake.
L
The
county
has
since
changed
that
regulation
to
allow
them,
but
even
still
part
of
this
master
plan
that
this
money
would
go
towards
was
actually
would
actually
be
going
towards.
I
think
it
would
be
a
vault
but
flushing
toilets,
no
I
guess
it
would
be
sewer
than
to
be
flushing
toilets,
so
we
are
doing
a
much
better
or
bathroom
than
we
were
originally
designing
back
when
we
got
the
ax
funding
a
couple
years
ago,.
F
L
This
makes
up
one
part
of
the
it's
it's
a
phase,
one
for
it,
which
is
gonna,
be
about
three
million
dollars.
We
have
actually
received
approval
of
about
1.5
million
from
the
county
and
they
want
a
match,
fifty
match
for
that,
and
we
are
going
to
use
Park
funding
as
well
as
state
funding
in
kind
funds
from
the
city,
as
well
as
some
impact
fees
to
create
it,
create
the
3
billion
dollar
project.
L
So
really,
what
we're
looking
at
here
is
not
just
redoing
the
bathroom
but
creating
a
a
bathroom
facility,
a
rental
facility
and
all
in
one
Plaza,
that's
and
as
well
as
they
improved
and
expanded
beach
area
and
then
completely
redoing.
The
marina
parking
lots,
entry
building
and
everything.
So
it's
it's
a
pretty
big
redo
of
the
bow
harbor
area
with
all
of
this
together.
Ok.
F
L
F
L
L
We
have
a
master
plan
that
we
got
updated,
so
we
can
resend
that
to
you
guys
as
well
as
the
costing
and
it
kind
of
give
you
a
bigger
picture,
but
we
wanted
to
get
some
of
this
funding
in
place
before
we
knew
we
were
actually
gonna
get
some
traction
for
we're
still
waiting
on
confirmation
on
the
state
grants
that
we
applied
for,
and
we
were
thinking
we
would
find
that
out
next
week
or
two
and
once
I
was
done,
we'd
kind
of
give
you
the
full
vision
of
it.
I
can.
B
B
B
The
the
county
commissioners
have
kind
of
looked
at
that
and
tried
to
be
a
little
more
precise
and
how
they
allocate
that
and
they
feel
like
Utah
Lake
is
that
is
shared
by
all
the
county,
and
so
there
was
actually
three
boat
harbours,
American,
Fork,
Saratoga,
Springs
and
vineyard,
who
all
got
somewhere
right
around
1.5
million
from
that
fund.
So
they
really
pointed
up
to
the
tune
of
almost
five
million
dollars
of
the
restaurant
tax
money
to
enhance,
and
you
have
better
use
to
Utah
Lake,
and
so
they
we
were.
B
We
were
shovel
ready
in
the
way
that
we
had
a
plan
and
a
master
plan
that
was
already
there.
We
just
had
to
update
some
of
the
construction
costs
and
things
like
that,
but
because
of
our
preparation,
it
got
to
the
front
of
the
line,
real,
quick
and
just
through
some
back
front
Charles
and
discussions.
B
It
was
something
that
became
available,
and
so
it
it
it's
nice
to
think
that
we
can
double
the
money
in
something
like
this
and
create
a
great
amenity
at
the
dental
Lake.
So
I
guess
that
happened
to
all
in
about
a
month
and
a
half
to
two
months,
where
that
whole
paradigm
shift
of
that
restaurant
tax
money.
In
that
nearly
five
million
dollars
was
put
in
a
bucket
for
Utah
Lake,
and
we
just
happen
to
be
one
of
it
has
the
harbor
that
has
access
to
it.
Just.
H
B
H
B
J
First
time
around,
we
followed
a
similar
process
the
first
time,
but
we
didn't
obtain
the
funding
the
approval.
So
that's
why
it
was
shovel-ready.
Is
we
already
had
done
the
plan
and
had
had
the
documents
and
everything
ready?
So
this
time
it
was
just
good
cuz
there
was
there,
was
funding
ready
so
and
then,
like
Camden
indicated,
the
restrictions
have
changed
to
facilitate
what
we're
trying
to
do.
I.
J
A
H
J
Yeah,
so
that
was
probably
three
years
ago,
we
did
a
partner,
a
public
public-private
partnership,
they
paid
for
the
sand
and
didn't
even
delivered
it
for
free,
and
then
we
spread
it
as
part
out.
So
we
didn't
actually
buy
the
sand,
but
we
had
labor
to
spread
it
and
kind
of
create
the
area
as
part
of
that
partnership.
F
Well,
I
have
other
questions
about
just
in
general,
Park
stuff
keep
going
okay,
the
ferry
project.
It
looks
like
they
requested
quite
a
bit
more
than
in
previous
years,
I
I
mean
I'm,
looking
at
maybe
twice
as
much
as
they
had
last
year.
Do
you
know
anything
Jeff,
any
insight
into
why
that
would
be
so.
C
C
So
I
think
it
wasn't
as
big
as
the
initial
ask
was
an
even
more
and
we
pared
that
back
a
little
bit,
but
we
we
felt
that,
given
the
length
of
time
booked
for
he's
been
on
this
predates
Clark
by
a
long,
a
long
time,
I
think
and
the
dictionary
project
based
upon
the
expansion.
That
was
their
sense
of
what
they
would
need.
L
Brainy,
if
I
can
add
commented,
is
that
all
right?
So
if
I
recall-
and
you
correct
me
in
addition
to
what
you're
saying
and
the
they
had,
they
had
a
much
more
affordable
access
at
some
sort
of
channel
that
they
can
get
books
for
a
considerably
cheaper
that
they
no
longer
have
access
to.
So
the
price
per
book
had
gone
up
significantly
as
I
recall.
That
was
one
of
the
other
reasons
for
the
the
cost
difference.
Okay,.
E
L
F
Okay,
so
I
also
I
mean
I've
talked
quite
a
bit
with
Tiffany's
arts
foundation,
and
there
I
actually
really
appreciate
what
you
were
saying
about.
How
that
you
allocated
money
because
helps
to
know
that
you
guys
are
looking
at
the
actual
programs
themselves.
That's
really
nice!
My
question
is
that
the
admin
I'm
sure
I
don't
remember
what
it
was,
but
I'm
sure
they
asked
for
quite
a
bit
more.
C
A
B
M
One,
if
I
can
kind
of
chime
in
one
thing
that
we
will
have
to
establish
with
any
monies
that
are
awarded
with
tip
notes,
Arts
Foundation
is
the
specifics
of
how
council
wants
to
specifically
identify
those
funds.
How
broken
down
council
wants
those
funds
to
be
in
in
the
contracts
and
part
of
that
addresses
this
issue
that
you're
raising
is.
Is
this?
M
How
much
detail
are
we
going
to
put
in
as
far
as
how
they're
using
those
funds,
one
of
the
difficulties
with
the
applications
in
even
reviewing
them
for
legality,
was
they
kind
of
they
gave
a
budget
for
their
year
and
then
told
us
what
their
revenues
were
and
then
said
these?
This
is
our
shortfall.
We
want
them
we're
asking
for
money
to
cover
our
shortfall,
and
so
that
creates
a
little
bit
of
complication
and
drafting
the
contracts
to
know
exactly
where
the
funds
are
going.
I.
H
You
know
what
I
mean
I
see
that
being
some
of
the
smaller
dollar
amounts,
but
we're
putting
a
big
chunk
of
the
park
tax
money,
a
vesting
into
an
organization
I'd
love
to
see
how
that's
part
of
their
five-year
plan
so
I,
don't
that's
something
we
could
add
to
the
application
process
is
a
throwing
your
five-year
strategic
plan,
and
how
is
this
asking
this
money?
Gonna
help
accomplish
to
grow
to
what
you're
trying
to
do
over
five
years.
B
H
I
think
any
organization
ought
to
have
a
strategic
plan
of
where
they're
going.
We
call
it
a
business
plan
in
the
private
sector
or
you
know
a
non-profit,
it's
a
strategic
plan
of
where
you
want
to
go
and
I
think
it
depends
on
what
their
goals
are
and
what
they
want
to
accomplish
as
a
symphony
if
they
want
to
expand.
That
would
include
those
plans
of
how
they
plan
to
expand
that
include,
maybe
other
grants
or
other
money
they're
going
after
or
things
of
that
nature.
H
H
C
You
know
and
Rob
Rob
suggestion
dovetails
nicely
we're
trying
to
develop
more
self-sufficiency
among
all
these
groups,
and
so,
if
the
five-year
plan
said,
how
do
you
plan
to
become
more
self-sustaining
or
totally
self-sustaining
in
five
years?
What
does
that
look
like?
It
said
that
would
be
something
we
could
measure
and
track
to
find
out
in
making
progress
to
become
more
self-sufficient
and
not
relying
upon
bark
Park
to
the
extent
they
are
now.
F
I'm
just
wondering
what,
if
they
had
I,
don't
I
mean
we
can
do
whatever
we
want.
We
can
make
it
as
difficult
as
we
want,
but
what,
if
they
even
just
had
some
parameters
that
they
had
to
meet,
which
is
something
we
had
kind
of
talked
about
in
the
past,
meet
these
you
know
parameters,
but
they
have
to
recommend
them
as
their
goal
points.
H
Could
be
I
think
I
look
at
it.
The
strength
of
the
organization
probably
needs
a
five-year
plan
right.
Every
business
ought
to
have
a
business
plan
and
every
nonprofit
ought
to
have
a
strategic
plan
that
they're
they're
working
towards
now.
What
I
would
see
is
that
our
tax
money
is
part
of
that
strategic
plan,
but
it'd
be
great
to
see
that
overall
plan
and
knowing
hey
they're
planning
for
the
future
and
they've
got
the
organization
from
a
good
corporate
governance
standpoint.
So
for
me,
I
just
love
to
see
a
five-year
strategic
plan.
H
Think
that
it
would
be
part
of
the
application
process,
I
would
say
21
is
that
they
would
include
a
five-year
strategic
plan.
So
perhaps
we
put
that
out
there
right
now
as
hey
come
next
February
we're
gonna
ask
for
that
five-year
plan,
so
have
those
ready
get
those
drafted
up
and
again
it'd
be
for
the
ones
that
we're
doing
a
majority
of
big
money
towards
right.
A
L
A
One
I
don't
have
any
issue
at
all
with
that.
I
think
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea,
but
does
it
stem
from
our
lack
of
confidence
of
what's
going
on
there
already,
and
is
this
one
more
thing?
We
throw
their
way
that
in
a
year's
time,
we
don't
make
any
progress
on
because
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
tremendous
amount
of
progress
on
any
of
the
other
things,
including
audits,
including
tracking
progress,
including
quarterly
meetings.
I'm,
not
aware,
I'm
not
trying
to
be
ugly
but
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
progress
we've
made
with
this
organization.
J
D
H
H
Being
here,
I
think
there's
other
issues
that
you
brought
up
and
I've
talked
with
Reggie
when
I
sat
down
with
him
and
one
other
lady
there
at
the
CAF
and
I
brought
up
the
need
of
a
strategic
plan,
and
they
didn't
seem
to
have
any
concerns
about
trying
to
put
one
together
and
I
offered
to
help
out
in
any
way,
I
can
to
help
facilitate
that
for
them.
But
I
just
think.
That's
a
good
structure
for
any
organization.
A
It
is
a
good
structure
for
any
organization,
but
they
come
to
us
on
a
yearly
basis
asking
for
these
funds.
My
my
issue
and
my
need
is
more
immediate.
I
want
to
be
able
to
I
mean
their
long-term
viability
is
absolutely
fantastic,
but
it's
fantastic
for
me,
because
I
want
a
significant
arts
presence
in
our
city
and
I'm,
not
sure
it
has
to
be
one
organization
over
another
I
want
the
organization
that
is
going
to
do
the
most
to
bring
prominent
arts
programs
etc
to
our
city.
A
You
know
I'm,
not
sure
it
moves
the
needle,
I'm
and
I'm,
also
not
sure
I'm
making
sense
to
anyone,
but
myself
I
want
to
be
able
to
see
the
Ark's
progress
in
our
city.
I
want
to
be
able
to
to
see
us
be
a
great
example
of
what
arts
can
be
in
our
in
our
city,
and
so,
if
we
go
down
this
road
to
my
earlier
point,
if
we
go
down
to
this
road,
it
feels
like
we're
asking
for
one
more
thing
for
a
particular
organization.
A
Even
though
we
would
be
asking
any
organization
that
was
receiving
50-plus
thousand
dollars,
although
I
don't
want
a
five-year
plan
from
every
organization
we're
asking
for
$50,000
from,
but
but
anyway
it's
we're
asking
for
one
more
thing,
because
I
will
only
speak
for
myself.
I
am
NOT
happy
with
what
has
taken
place
in
the
past
with
a
particular
organization.
F
F
You
know
one
thing:
I'm
thinking
as
we're
talking
is
the
wait
brain
described
their
allocation
process
I
actually
really
like
they
as
a
group,
but
they
kind
of
talked
about
the
viability
and
value
of
each
of
these
Oh.
What
I'm
hearing
Brian
say
is
that
they
talked
about
the
viability
and
value
of
each
of
the
groups
and
that
in
itself,
I
think
could
be
a
winnowing
process.
F
A
So,
in
other
words,
Timpanogos
Arts
Foundation
isn't
sitting
back
and
saying:
look
the
Clark
Taylor
magic
show
at
the
Robinson
Park
we
funded
year
over
year,
and
it's
doing
absolutely
nothing
for
us.
But
it's
you
know:
they've
been
a
part
of
the
arts
organization,
the
city
for
so
long.
So
we're
going
to
continue
to
fund
that
rather
than
saying
as
fun
as
the
the
Clark
Taylor
magic
show
in
Robinson
Park
is.
It
has
absolutely
no
viability
to
strengthen
the
arts
in
our
city
and
we're
throwing
money
towards
something
that
doesn't
make
sense.
A
A
H
Maybe
two
sides
to
it:
I
see
one
being
where
it's
more
organization
specific
and
we're
trying
to
accomplish
something
with
an
organization.
You
said
something
there
Clark
about
I
want
to
see
the
arch
grow
and
this
and
when
you
said
the
word
see,
my
word
clicked
in
my
mind,
was
vision
and
that's
kind
of
the
idea
of
a
five
year
plan
to
give
us
the
vision
of
where
that
organization
is
going,
how
they're
managing
how
they're
going
to
get
there
but
I
think
that
would
be
different
from
that's
different
when
you're
talking
about
I'm.
H
Talking
about
that
as
a
broad
level,
not
going
granular
into
a
specific
group
before
concern
about
a
specific
group,
as
you
brought
up
with
CAF
I
think
yes,
we
need
to
be
much
more
specific,
so
this
wasn't
something
veiled
as
a
way
of
trying
to
get
tapped
one
way
or
the
other.
It
really
truly
was
sincerely
just
if
we're
doing
a
certain
dollar
amount
into
any
organization.
A
But
my
problem
with
that
Rob
is
and
and
and
we're
starting
to
split
hairs
a
little
bit
if
we
just
talk
about
arcs
in
the
the
a
of
Park.
None
of
these
arts
organizations
are
working
together,
so
they
each
give
us
a
five
year
plan,
but
we
are
still
looking
at
three
separate
organizations
and
we're
saying:
well,
they
have
quite
a
vision.
These
guys
have
but
quite
a
vision
and
it's
all
for
the
Arts,
but
none
of
them
are
meeting
and
working
together.
It
is,
it
is
what
one
organization
wants
to
do.
A
Here's
that
vision,
here's
the
other
organization,
but
none
of
them
are
communicating,
there's
no
cohesive,
cohesive
portion
of
this
because
they
all
want
more
dollars
for
themselves
as
they
should
that's,
not
a
negative.
They
want
to
be
able
to
fund
their
programs
I'm
all
over
that
and
even
for
cap
I.
Understand
that
my
my
issue
and
it's
you
know
it
sounds
like
a
tap
issue,
but
I'm
saying
are:
we
is
American
Fork
City,
with
these
parc
funds.
A
Are
we
getting
any
closer
to
an
Arts
Center
or
have
we
seen
any
improvement
from
the
with
the
3/4
of
a
million
dollars
or
more
probably
closer
to
a
million
dollars?
When
we
look
at
all
of
the
arch
organizations
that
we
put
money
into,
are
we
getting
any
closer
or
do
we
still
have
four
very
dissimilar
or
three
very
dissimilar
groups
that
are
drawing
those
funds
and
I?
A
Don't
know
what
a
five-year
plan
is
going
to
do
if
I
get
a
five-year
plan
from
act
and
a
five-year
plan
from
the
Harrington
and
a
five-year
plan
from
TAF
I,
don't
know
what
that
does
for
me
besides,
provide
them
extra,
busywork
I,
don't
know
how
that
bill
helps
us,
build
a
arts
presence
of
any
sort
in
American
Fork
and
that's
what
I
think
these
funds
should
be
helping
us
do
in
addition
to
the
earlier
point
of
okay
is
this?
Is
this
one
more
thing?
A
I
If
I
might
just
chime
in
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
what
everybody's
trying
to
say,
I
just
did
a
little
quick,
math
and
Brian.
You
may
have
a
better
number
than
I
do
but,
as
I
add
up
those
10
categories
under
Timpanogos
arts
foundation,
I
come
up
with
just
a
little
over
two
hundred
and
ten
or
twelve
thousand
dollars.
It
was
a
pretty
rough
guess,
but
it
doesn't
show
that
on
the
stuff
that
we
haven't.
I
I
They've
got
ten
separate
groups
and
the
first
one
listed
is
youth
choirs,
for
example.
How
many
choirs
is
that,
and
if
it's?
If,
let's
say
we
pick
a
smaller
number
than
your
50,000
drop,
just
because
I'm
looking
at
some
of
these
and
the
others,
if
we
say
every
above
10,000
needs
to
do
it.
If
that's
three
choirs,
do
they
need
to
do
it,
or
is
that
one
group
and
how
all
of
those
broke
break
down
I'm?
I
M
Thank
you
at
this
point
councils
somewhat
on
board,
with
the
recommendations
of
the
committee.
I
haven't
heard
any
pushes
away
from
that
and
there's.
Obviously,
some
some
independent
concerns
with
certain
numbers.
I
can
draft
the
contracts
with
the
numbers.
The
committee,
the
the
biggest
question
I
have
for
the
council,
is
what
how
detailed
is
the
breakdown
going
to
be
for
tip
notice,
arts?
How
detailed
is
the
breakdown
going
to
be
for
this?
These
PA
RK
funds.
F
I'm
not
sure
because
on
the
one
hand,
it's
simplifies
things
to
just
give
them
a
more
general
number,
but
we
have
had
questions
about
some
of
their
expenditures,
so
find
what
the
expenditure
is
for
eliminates
some
of
that
I.
Don't
have
the
information
in
front
of
me
to
know
what
expenditures
I
would
pinpoint
for
each
of
the
groups
and.
M
And
that's
a
struggle,
for
example,
the
merry
cow
akame
speech
contest.
One
of
the
items
in
their
budget
is
the
scholarship.
Of
course.
The
park
funds
cannot
go
toward
the
scholarship,
but
the
way
that
their
application
was
where
they
just
put
the
amount
of
their
budget.
What
their
revenue
is
and
then
asked
for
the
offset
amount.
It
creates
some
ambiguity
as
to
how
those
funds
are
going
to
be
used.
M
Where
is
with
the
other
organizations,
there's
there's
specifics
of
what
they're
requesting
the
funds
for,
and
so
it
would
be
my
recommendation
that
we'd
be
a
little
bit
more
detailed.
It
will
require
some
legwork
of
going
back
to
Taff
and
really
trying
to
hone
in
on
the
specifics
of
what
their
funds
are
going
to
be
used
for.
M
It
helps
out
on
the
back
end
too,
when
they
come
back
to
Council
and
say
here's
our
proof
of
you
know,
here's
our
receipts
for
these
items,
or
here
are
our
expenses
for
these
specific
items.
If
we
just
leave
it
a
little
bit
more
broad,
it's
we're
not
going
to
have
the
detailed
accounting
on
the
back
side
that
I
think
councils
been
asking
for
well.
F
If
I
also
know
there
are
some
limitations
on
what
they
can
use
monies
for,
so
we
specify
it.
It
does
perhaps
keep
us
a
little
bit
more
out
of
trouble
and
they
say
this.
Knowing
you
guys
know:
I
hate,
red
tape
and
all
the
rigmarole
they'll
have
to
go
through
I
know
it's
gonna
be
a
pain
for
us
and
them,
but
I
might
keep
us
out
of
trouble
a
little
bit
more.
A
From
you
know
my
opinion
into
this,
the
the
committee
worked
in
great
great
detail
pouring
this
for
a
couple
of
consecutive
meetings
and
so
I'm
fine
having
it
go
out,
as
is
if
the
reporting
process
works.
The
way
we
intended
it,
then,
when
Taff
comes
in
or
when
PA
RK
comes
in,
they
outline
those
projects
and
they
typically
are
supposed
to
to
designate
or
tell
us
how
that
you
know
those
dollars
were
spent.
A
If
the
reporting
works
the
way
it
was
intended,
we
will
know
that
and
I
don't
I,
don't
have
an
issue
with
Mary
telecom
e
and
things
like
that.
The
way
that
came
in
your
your
iShare
Lin,
that
was
a
little
ambiguous
but
I
think
you
know
we
could
provide
them
some
clarity
and
then
we
could
still
know.
But
when
that
report
came
in,
we
should
be
able
to
get
that
without
the
additional
red
tape.
As
you
say,
Stacy
the
problem
has
been
the
reporting.
Okay.
H
H
I,
don't
see
them
coming
in
and
bringing
in
every
organization
and
going
through
and
having
every
director
tell
us
where
things
are
at
I,
see
it
as
providing
us.
The
financial
data
giving
us
five
to
ten
minutes
of
conversation,
ask
questions
and
be
accountable.
I,
don't
see
it
as
this
grand
presentation
type
of
thing.
Hopefully
it's
a
quarterly
reporting.
That's
done
before
the
board
that
we
can
then
they'll
be
able
to
ask
questions
and
get
clarification
and
maybe
give
some
kinds
of
direction
on
personal
preferences.
But
that's
all
I
see
at
the
end,
but.
A
Don't
you
see
that
as
being
this
year,
we
added
the
vivace
Youth
Orchestra
and
with
our
7500
dollars
in
that
program,
we
were
able
to
do
this.
Just
like
the
PA
RK,
you
know
new
parks
and
benches
we've
seen
benches
go
in
in
for
additional
parks.
We've
seen
trees
were
planted,
our
budget
that
we
had
for
trees
was
this
much.
We
were
able
to
get
some
great.
A
Some
beautiful
flowering
players
are
in
pairs
in
which
we
planted
in
rotary
and
north-south,
east-west
Park
and
so
and
whatever
it
might
be,
I
mean
the
way
that
it
is
broken
out
here.
The
way
Brian
has
broken
out
is
the
way
I
see
it
being
reported
on.
You
have
the
Timpanogos
Arts,
Foundation
and
I'm
only
using
Timpanogos
arts,
because
they're
the
one
on
the
screen,
but
you
have
youth
choirs,
Wasatch,
winds,
Mary
calico
me
and
you
go
down
the
list.
A
When
that
report
comes
in
from
tap
I,
don't
want
a
report
of
where
$210,000
is
I'm.
You
know
they've
received
that
they
they
are
the
master
over
those
funds.
I
want
to
know
how
that's
worked
out
for
the
watch
that
show
band
I
want
to
know
how
that's
you
know
done
for
the
a
of
Visual
Arts
and
how
many
people
have
jumped
in
and
taken
watercolor
paintings
and
what
kind
of
success
we're
getting
for
that.
So
that's
what
I
see
coming
from
the
Greater
organization.
A
We
have
given
a
matte
amount
of
money
and,
not
said
hey,
distribute
it
will
this
group
has
painstakingly
gone
over
every
one
of
the
people
that
you
see
on
this
list
and
debated
back
and
forth.
It's
an
arduous
process
and
they're
there
in
its
heart
and
soul,
and
so
that's
all
I'm
saying
I
would
I
would
I
would
expect
some
report
on
all
of
the
the
smallest
of
those
elements
of
that
larger
that
greater
donation
just.
H
An
idea
of
maybe
what
we
do
is
maybe
a
month
before
the
presentations
will
be
given
to
council.
The
mayor
can
just
send
out
and
say,
hey
council.
What
would
you
like
included
in
this
quarterly
report?
It
can
be
compiled
and
sent
off
to
the
group,
and
that
way
they
have
it
a
month
ahead
of
time
when
they've
got
a
month
to
prepare
what
numbers,
in
addition
to
the
financials,
that
we
want
to
take
a
look
at.
B
K
B
Taf
I'm
the
same
thing.
We
did
the
same
thing
with
even
our
art
projects.
We
went
through
quite
a
presentation
saying
this
is
what
it
was.
What
happened
but
I
think
a
lot
can
be
told
by
a
just
a
very
prepared
spreadsheet,
with
some
explanation
into
that.
Do
you
want
them
to
come
before
the
before
the
council
in
a
work
session
and
maybe
explain
to
me
maybe
that
process
so
that
we
can
prepare
for
it.
H
Well,
I'll
jump
in
I.
You
know
I've
always
felt
like
just
for
the
bigger
organizations
and
then
doing
that
quarterly
and
then
for
the
smaller
ones.
Doing
that
on
an
annual
basis
like
we
have
in
the
past,
I
think
that,
if
maybe
just
to
make
that
meeting
more
effective
as
far
as
time
goes
and
information,
given
perhaps
that
sending
out
a
survey
to
the
council
a
month
before
they
present
might
help
make
sure
that
presentations
aren't
target
and
getting
information
that
the
counts.
Those
questions.
I
50,000,
let's
say
10,000
of
it
was
spent
I'm
just
gonna
use
one
that
maybe
would
be
a
little
easier
for
me
to
talk
about
Parks
and
Recreation
350
thousand
dollars
for
our
Dai
Park
I.
Think
you
put
a
list
of
what
that
$350,000
was
spent
for
20,000
for
this
ball
field
and
15,000
for
this
backstop
and
25,000
for
this
or
whatever
and
just
list
each
of
those
items
and
I
think
in
some
cases
you
need
to
list
the
dollar
amount
and
I
think.
I
I
I
think
that's
one
way
to
count
what's
being
done
with
it
when
we
count
people
that
are
involved
in
recreation,
I,
don't
know
how
you
count
those
and
get
a
real
number,
because
if
my
grandson
plays
one
sport
and
his
cousin
plays
five
sports,
but
his
cousin
counts
five
times,
but
it's
still
him
one
time
if
that's
making
any
sense
so
I,
don't
know
how
you
narrow
down
all
of
those
numbers,
but
I
do
believe.
We
need
a
little
more
detail
of
money
what
it
was
spent
for
and
how
many
people
are.
I
I
H
F
D
F
What
this
is
for,
so
it's
whatever
any
concert
for
twenty,
twenty-one
twenty
twenty.
They
actually
have.
Seventy
five
hundred
well,
actually,
no
I,
don't
know
how
much
they
have
leftover.
They
have
some
portion
leftover,
that's
supposedly
for
June,
which
I
don't
know
if
we
can
have
concerts
or
not
in
June.
We
need
to
talk
about
that.
So
we
had
talked
about
them
getting
some
money
for
this
year's
concerts.
F
M
Understanding
is
that
they
have
funds
remaining,
that
they
were
going
to
use
for
this
year's
concerts.
They
had
enough
for
two
concerts
I
believe
this
year,
and
then
these
funds
were
for
next
year
next
summer
for
two
concerts
next
summer
and
and
Camden.
You
may
have
a
little
bit
more
information
on
this,
but
Camden
did
reach
out
to
them
about
possibility
of
not
having
concerts
this
summer
because
of
all
Cobin
regulations
and
recommendations,
and
they
were
hopeful
that
they
would
be
able
to
just
push
them
off
later
into
the
summer
and
still
do
them.
F
So
basically
they
have
two
concerts.
They
have
money
now
for
two
concepts
for
this
summer
and
two
concerts
for
next
summer
as
the
recommendations
work
according
to
this
park
and
I
guess
I,
just
because
it's
been
an
entire
council
discussion.
I
would
like
to
know
where
you
guys
want
to
go
with,
and
if
we're
gonna
have
any
concerts
this
summer,
they
just
need
to
be
able
to
find
talent
or
tell
talent.
No
brain.
Did
you
have
some
insight.
C
You
know
I
think
that
they
were
Marissa
and
Spencer
wanted
to
have
as
much
as
much
advance
notice
to
these
potential
artists
into
the
child
they
run
into
now.
Is
they
had
funding?
You
know
right
now,
it's
hard
booking
acts
three
or
four
months
out
because
they
already
booked
up,
so
they
would
like
to
have
the
funding
gee
well
in
advance,
like
we
give
them
these
two
concerts
next
year.
They
gives
them
plenty
of
time.
C
They've
been
played,
notify
potential
artists
that
couldn't
come
here,
so
I
think
that
their
concern
is
being
given
funding
too
late
for
the
current
year.
So
I
think
even
now,
for
the
two
concerts
that
may
happen
in
the
summer,
it'll
be
still
be
tough
to
book.
An
act
well
Cove
in
nineteen,
throw
that
into
a
little
bit
disarray,
but
thinking
next
year.
H
Bc
might
my
thought
was
I
think
we
kind
of
said
hey.
We
gave
this
to
the
still
based
committee.
They
said
they
didn't
want
to
do
it
anymore
right,
so
Harrington
stepped
up
and
said
we'll
take
it
on,
but
you
know,
there's
always
been
funding
for
this
from
the
city
in
the
past
and
so
I
hate
to
say
someone
that
says:
hey
we'll
help
out
and
then
turn
around
say:
okay,
you're
gonna
do
an
eight
concert
series
with
two.
H
But
my
recollection
of
the
council
felt
like
it
was
a
important
to
keep
the
concerts
in
the
park
and
that's
why
we
wanted
someone
to
take
it
on,
but
I
think
if
we
just
funded
it,
that's
gonna
be
hard
for
someone
else
to
get
quality
talent
in
there
to
really
grow.
This
thing,
that's
what
our
goal
is.
F
Mutant,
that's
why
I
wanted
to
ask
the
council
mayor
what
their
thoughts
were.
I
actually
think
two
is
okay,
and
this
coming
summer
might
be
all
we
could
even
season.
Four
I,
don't
even
know
what
we
could
do,
but
perhaps
two
concerts.
Maybe
it's
not
a
concert
series,
but
we
produce
two
city
concerts
two
summer
concerts
and.
B
F
B
Would
be
I
think
one
of
those
concerts
outside
of
this
is
hopefully
our
our
Symphony.
It's
usually
are
widely
our
biggest
attended
concert
anyway,
but
it's
in
conjunction
with
our
celebration,
which
right
now
is
still
kind
of
you
know
to
be
considered,
but
that's
at
least
three.
If
it's
later
on
in
the
year,
we
hopefully
get
the
the
symphony
back
later
in
the
year
to
even
do
a
concert
so
I'm
uncomfortable
with
a
couple
concerts.
B
H
H
M
H
F
I
My
my
worry
is:
if
you're
only
going
to
do
two
or
three,
how
are
people
gonna
know
when
they
are
I,
think
they've
had
I,
don't
know,
let's
say
the
security
or
the
the
peace
of
knowing
that
from
such-and-such
a
date
to
such-and-such.
There's
a
concert
every
Monday
night
over
at
Quail,
Hollow
and
I.
Think
what
I
hear
Rob
talking
about
is
that
the
city
actually
putting
some
money
in
and
I'm
just
gonna
call
them
calendar
years,
because
this
year
in
that
year,
next
year
and
all
that's
too
confusing
for
me.
I
H
H
H
I
guess
you
want
to
get
bigger
bands
in
and
do
a
bigger
bang
gonna
cost
a
little
more,
but
I
just
take
a
look
at
it
going
what
if
we
did
$12,000
historically
and
we
jump
down
to
27
50
times
Brian
you're
the
numbers
guy?
What
is
that
5500
there
you
go
so
you
know
we're
gonna,
give
them
a
little
less
than
half
the
funding
that
we've
done
in
the
past
now
if
they
want
to
go
out
and
get
sponsorships
great,
but
I
just
think.
H
L
Can
I
clarify
something
the
way
I
understand
it
is
Harrington
is
saying
the
per
concert.
Cost
is
twenty
seven
fifty,
and
so,
if
you
know,
if
the
proposed
5500
is
what's
awarded,
Harrington
is
saying
we'll
give
you
two
concerts
and
so
in
their
mind,
I.
Don't
think
the
expectation
is
that
we're
saying
you
get
fifty
five
hundred,
but
we
want
eight
concerts,
I,
think
they're
kind
of
saying:
if
that's
the
amount
did,
the
per
concert
cost
is
twenty
seven
fifty
and
so
it's
kind
of
the
way
I
think
Harrington
structured.
H
L
L
It
involved
TAF
does
a
concert
I,
don't
think
they're,
including
those
types
of
community
concerts,
they're
strictly
talking
about
ones
that
were
quiet,
they're
gonna
bring
in
a
performer
or
something
like
that,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
think
of
them
separately
or
layer,
one
on
top
of
the
other
as
well.
When
you
count
them
up.
E
E
We
would
do
it
and
then
stop
and
instead
of
this
week,
we'll
have
one
and
then
we'll
skip
a
week
and
then
we'll
have
another
one
and
we're
gonna
lose
a
lot
of
potential
audience
members
that
way
so
I
I
really
think
that
we
should
do
that
and
be
consistent.
I,
don't
know
about
the
money,
it
seems
like
it's
a
huge
amount.
I,
don't
know.
E
If
we're
all
the
cost
goes
if
a
lot
of
that
is
going
toward
some
of
the
big
bands,
bigger
bands
that
have
a
bigger
name
and
then
some
of
them
that
I've
gone
to
I,
wouldn't
paid
$27.
For
that
you
know
that
that's
my
personal
opinion
I,
like
having
the
consistency,
I
think
that's
best
for
our
community
members.
You.
B
Have
a
motion
by
councilmember
Christensen
I'm
just
kidding:
let's
talk,
consistency
Kevin,
you
like
the
consistency
factor
as
we
as
we
can
say
that
we
can
have
them.
You
know
and
just
have
them.
Every
Monday
night,
I'm
okay,
I've
been
to
some
really
good
concerts.
That
I
think
maybe
just
the
sound
system
was
paid
for
I
I.
Think
it's
the
environment
as
much
as
it
is
anything
and
people
being
around
each
other,
but
I
have
never.
I
have
never
had
to
be
over.
This
I've
never
understood
the
dynamics
of
it
and
the
cost
of
talent.
B
B
I,
don't
know
what
it
cost
to
get
a
Joshua
Creek
here.
I
know
they
come
to
the
Senior
Center
and
they
probably
give
them
a
screaming
Bell,
maybe
even
free,
because
they're,
the
seniors
of
our
city
but
and
then
I,
don't
really
know
what
it
costs
to
have
the
the
sound
equipment
but
I
think
there's
a
budget
there
that
maybe
I
guess
I
don't
understand.
Can
we
pull
off
a
really
good
concert
for
$1,000
and
still
make
it
something?
That's
community
oriented,
I.
I
Think
your
cost
of
your
sound
and
stuff
is
is
Stacy.
You
can
correct
me
on
this.
It's
it's
a
pretty
good
chunk
of
money
every
week
because
they
bring
a
lot
of
equipment
and
it
takes
him
a
long
time
and
everything
else
and
that
does
cut
into
it.
If
the
2750
includes
the
sound,
it
does
count
into
it.
I'm
kind
of
thinking
of
Rob's
prior
comments
about
five-year,
strategic
plans
and
I'm
thinking.
There
was
this
guy
from
Utah
County.
I
That
used
to
always
talk
about
begin
with
the
end
in
mind,
and
maybe
we
need
to
decide
what
we're
doing
these
concerts
for
and
why
and
who
they're
benefiting
and
etc,
etc.
I
personally
kind
of
lean
towards
what
rob
was
saying.
If
it's
a
City
benefit,
maybe
the
city
should
be
putting
some
of
the
money
in
there
in
addition
to
the
park
tax,
but
I
think
that's
not
today's
discussion,
I
think
that's
for
another
discussion
at
some
point,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
it
discussion
like
that
and
see
what
it
is.
F
I'm
gonna
make
an
assumption
here.
It
could
be
wrong,
but
the
impression
that
I
get
is
that
the
Harrington
wants
to
put
on
what
they
would
consider
a
quality
concert
and
I'm,
not
sure
they
would
be
interested
in
attaching
their
name
to
something
with
a
lesser
price
tag
in
that
they
wouldn't
that
they
wouldn't
have
money
to
produce
something
that
they
thought
was
excellent.
I.
A
And
I
think
the
2750
is
a
number
that
maybe
isn't
going
to
be
the
cost
for
each
concert,
but
it's
more
of
a
pool
they
can
draw
from,
depending
on
the
talent
that
they
need,
but
I
completely
concur
with
what
Stacey
just
said
and
I
and
good
for
them.
You
know
I
I
I
will
I
will
miss.
The
I
will
miss
the
weekly
concerts.
It's
I,
don't
know
man,
it's
just
but
I.
A
B
E
A
A
J
A
Of
those
warm-up
groups
last
year
that
cowboy
picking
group
had
the
two
guitars
and
the
banjo
I
thought
their
stuff
was
really
good.
I
have
no
idea
what
they
cost,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
just
had
something
that
hey
it's
like
it's
a
community
forum
you
can
come
in
and
it'll
still
be
Monday
night
performances
are
going
to
be
on
Monday
night
and
and
then
we
just
looked
at
them
and
vet
them
and
say
yeah.
This
would
be
great.
That's
stupid.
No.
E
F
If
we
did
something
like
that,
it's
a
lot
of
work
to
set
up
sound,
arrange,
sound
and
get
food
trucks.
So
if
we
simplified
it
even
further
and
just
only
vetted
them
and
said
you
can
have
our
concert
and
we'll
promote
it,
you
can
have
our
venue
and
we'll
promote
it
as
part
of
the
summer
concert
series,
then
perhaps
it
would
work.
I
just
know
like
you
need
somebody
who
has
some
dedicated
time
to
find
the
sound
coordinated
every
single
week
and
getting
the
food
trucks
was
actually
a
really
big
problem.
D
A
Could
there
be
any
way
that
we
could
just?
It
was
just
a
standing,
so
we
gave
a
calendar
out
to
those
food
truck
partners,
they
paid
their
fee
and
they
knew
that
on
the
first
and
the
third
Mondays
of
June
July
and
August,
there
was
going
to
be
a
concert
in
the
park
and
they
could
come
and
participate
had
to
pay
a
fee
in
order
to
do
that
and
they
paid
it
upfront
to
be
able
to
be
to
be
able
to
sell
at
that
particular
venue.
And
then
we
just
fill
those
six.
A
A
F
A
B
Could
I
just
make
recommendations?
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
this
in
front
of
us
in
City
Council,
and
we
can
make
this
decision
on
the
fly.
It
gives
us
a
chance.
It
gives
us.
You
know
the
better
part
of
the
whole
week
to
kind
of
think
about
this
discussed
in
with
other
people,
and
we
come
back
and
we
can.
We
can
make
some
of
those
decisions
on
the
fly
through
motions.
Okay,.
H
Bring
up
one
comment:
I
would
love
to
see
that
Boat
Harbour
thing
like
I
mentioned
loved
to
take
a
look
at
it.
I
think
it's
great.
We
got
funding
from
the
county,
but
just
seeing
how
that
overall,
funding
is
gonna
come
and
what
source
is
gonna
come
from
on
that
one
point:
five
would
be
very
important:
I
really
felt
partial
to
the
well
Cove
bathrooms.
I
think
that's
a
huge
amenity
to
that
area,
especially
if
we're
using
it
for
weddings
and
things
of
that
nature.
H
We've
been
told
that
we
could
probably
rent
that
facility
out
more
if
it
had
the
right
amenities
to
it
and
then
the
only
thing
an
ad
is
something
maybe
planting
a
seed
for
next
year
or
future,
then,
with
our
parks
and
recreation.
I
love
the
scoreboards
at
the
baseball
field,
but
we
also
need
to
look
at
the
snack
shacks
there
as
well.
They
do
not
pass
county
code
health
codes
right
now,
there's
no
running
water
to
them.
H
C
B
Okay,
we
will
now
move
on
to
item
number.
Two
is
discussion
of
the
fiscal
year:
2021
water,
stewardship
care,
capital
projects,
broadband
and
informational,
Technology
Fund,
David,
yeah,
I'm
gonna.
Have
you
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
just
go
over
you
and
Anna?
Maybe
you
could
tag-team
this
as
I
way
of
just
helping
us
prepare
how
komen
19
has
changed
this
budget
process.
I
I
think
we
can
sum
that
up
and
how
did
difficulties
and
what
you've
done
so
can
we
just
start
with
that
so
that
we
do?
We
know
that
process.
G
As
you
know,
we
started
out
this
budget
process
with
the
City
Council,
getting
together
in
a
workshop
to
look
at
our
budget.
Look
at
the
projects
that
we're
on
our
on
our
plate.
Kind
of
you
know,
looking
at
our
strategic
plan
that
we
have,
we
went
through
our
strategic
plan
with
the
City
Council
and
in
February.
You
know
things
were.
It
was
a
much
different
landscape
than
it
is
today,
and
our
budget
projections
looked
pretty
good.
You
know
we,
we
didn't
see
what
was
coming
down
the
pipeline,
but
you,
our
tentative
expenses,
were
in
line.
G
We
had
some
capital
projects
that
we
wanted
to
get
done
and,
and
things
were
looking
pretty
good,
we
were
being
conservative
in
our
budget,
but
at
the
same
time
it
felt
we
felt
pretty
good
about
where
we
were
headed
with
the
proposed
2021
budget
and
then
of
course,
Cobin
hits
and
well.
Every
single
day
has
been
kind
of
a
new
new
information
has
come
forward.
You
know
we
see
how
it's
affected
businesses
in
our
community.
We
and
specifically
it's
affected
the
cells
of
a
lot
of
our
industries,
and
you
know
not.
G
Every
city
is
going
to
be
affected
the
same
and
we're
we're
all
recalibrating
our
budgets
and
I've
had
discussions
with
many
other
cities
already
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
the
right
number?
What
does
this
really
mean
to
us
as
a
city,
and
what
does
it
mean
to
our
budget
and
every
city
is
going
to
be
different?
And
you
know
some
cities
have
a
lot
of
tourism
if
you're
mo
lab
or
if
you're,
st.
George
this
is
it's
gonna,
be
pretty
pretty
impactful.
You
know
the
hotels
are
all
empty
for
American
Fork,
you
know.
G
You
know
our
expenses,
and
so
what
our?
What
our
plan
is
is
to
be
conservative.
We
know
that
as
soon
as
we
make
a
budget,
there
could
be
information
that
comes
out
tomorrow
that
changes
that
budget,
but
we
will
do
the
best
we
can
with
the
information.
We
have
and
always
be
a
conservative
in
our
approach
to
that,
and
we
will
produce
a
balanced
budget
without
taking
advantage
or
taking
from
reserves.
That's
really
important
for
us
to
to
be
careful
with
those
dollars.
G
G
We've
we've
gone
through
the
budget,
many
many
times,
I,
don't
know
what
version
we're
on
now
but,
like
I,
say
every
single
day,
there's
new
information
that
comes
out
that
helps
us
refine
the
budget
and
it's
a
tight
tight
budget.
We've
had
to
reduce
expenses
and
in
order
to
balance
the
budget,
but
that
is
what
we're
required
to
do.
That's
what
we
need
to
do.
G
Our
residents
have
tightened
their
belts
in
many
cases
and
we
need
to
tighten
our
belts
as
well
and
and
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
make
sure
we're
careful
with
every
single
dollar
and
there's
so
many
things
that
we
would
love
to
do
concerts.
You
know
these
the
concert
series
it's
a
great
thing,
I
wish
we
had.
G
Those
are
my
thoughts
right
now
and-
and
you
know,
the
mayor
and
I
have
had
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
budget
preparing
for
this
and
preparing
these
funds.
We've
sat
down
with
the
different
department
heads
they
understand
as
well
and
I
just
have
to
also
thank
them
for
how
flexible
the
departments
are
they
all
get
it.
They
understand
we're
gonna
have
to
tighten
our
belts,
and
so
every
departments
been
fantastic.
That
way
so
really
appreciate
their
hard
work
too
Anna.
Do
you
want
to
jump
in
then
on
on.
F
Can
I
ask
a
question
on
what
something
you
just
said?
First,
before
we
go
on
normally
we
have
sales
tax
numbers
hit
that
we
use
in
history
up,
and
in
this
case
our
history
is
obviously
skewed,
but
we
don't
get
sales
tax
numbers
until
like
there's
a
delay
so
I'm
assuming
we
don't
have
actual
numbers
that
we
can
base
anything
off
of.
Do
you
have
a
way
that
you're
giving
an
indication
of
what
maybe
some
projections
might
be
in
order
to
face
these
budgets
off
of
yeah.
G
Yeah,
so
there's
there's
a
number
of
different
ways
that
we
get
that
information.
A
lot
of
it
is,
is
participating
with
the
state
of
Utah
has
an
economic
forum
that
they
talk
about.
The
Kem
Gardner
Institute
also
has
data
that
we're
looking
at
we've
reached
out
to
some
of
the
auto
dealerships
here
in
town
to
kind
of
see
how
they're
doing
the
mayor
has
has
has
gotten
some
information
back
from
them,
so
we're
just
trying
to
pull
all
of
these
pieces
of
information
because
you're
absolutely
right.
G
Sales
tax
lags
the
actual
sell,
so
we
don't
have
marches
sales
tax
in
yet,
but
in
looking
at
industry
by
industry
and
kind
of
seeing
how
they're
being
affected
you
know,
that's
that's
our
best,
our
best
guess,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
being
very
conservative,
and
so
we
we
definitely
don't
do
not
want
to
overestimate
the
amount
of
sales
tax
we're
getting
now.
Could
it
be
better
sure
it
could
be?
F
N
N
We
and
the
city
adopted
some
rate
changes
last
year,
so
we
are
anticipating
a
bit
of
an
increase
and
as
people
stay
home
and
kids
are
home
from
school,
we
know
anticipate
anybody
turning
off
their
water
necessarily.
So
we
dissipate
a
bit
of
a
growth
about
four
percent
and
in
that,
in
those
sales
we
as
far
as
I
understand,
we
do
not
receive
a
CDBG
grant
allocation
so
that
a
revenue
source
will
not
be
for
2021.
N
So
there
is
a
bit
of
a
decrease
for
there
for
the
grant
allocation
and
then-
and
we
are
anticipating
going
out
for
debt
for
proceeds
of
water,
lined
a
project
for
eighteen
and
point
three
four
million-
and
this
is
the
36
inch
water
line
project
and
maybe
Scott
or
David,
talk
more
about
that.
If
you
have
some
questions,
but
we
have
applied
for
a
loan
for
the
State
Board
of
Water
Reclamation
and
we
are
waiting
to
hear
I
think
it
goes
to
their
Board
of
Directors
in
mid-june.
N
H
Straight
is
it
possible
to
get
map
with
different
colors
on
it?
The
different
phases
of
the
water
line
project,
so
I
can
become
more
familiar
with
that
and
then,
when
we're
targeting
them
and
the
way
we're
looking
to
fund
it
because
I
see
this
year,
I'm
like
okay,
this
phase
1
phase
2
phase
3,
was
just
part
of
200
South.
Connecting
that
just
help
me
keep
it
all
straight.
If
that
was
possible,
yeah.
N
So
as
far
as
revenues
or
overall
increases
1.6
percent
and
as
they
go
look
at
the
expenditures
we
did
and
reallocate
some
of
our
public
works
and
engineering
costs
to
a
70/30
allocation,
so
70%
water
and
30%
to
secondary
water
and
that's
due
to
to
the
pressurized
irrigation
being
down
for
half
a
year.
So
they
thought
that
was
a
more
accurate
reflection
of
how
their
workload
or
their
time
should
be
allocated.
So
you
will
see
an
increase
in
water
fund
and
a
corresponding
decrease
in
the
pressurized
irrigation.
N
As
far
as
the
salaries
and
wages,
we
also
proposed
to
add
a
city
engineer
of
which
it
will
be
split
evenly
between
water
sewer,
storm
drain
and
all
the
enterprise
funds.
So
the
enterprise
funds
will
be
funding
that
new
position
in
Public
Works.
So
our
major
proposed
capital
projects.
These
are
new
projects.
Again,
there
are
36
inch
water
line
projects.
N
We
recommend
the
repairs
to
Country
Club.
Well,
there
are
some
improvements
to
100
east
water
improvements,
and
then
we
have
some
recurring
cost
as
well
for
the
backhoe
beasts
and
we
are
going
to
replace
that
with
the
mini
axe
and
that
should
be
allocated
between
several
enterprise
funds
as
well,
so
a
portion
of
that
is
funded
by
the
water
fund
and
then
just
20%
of
our
debt
service
or
the
loan
that
we
have
just
applied
for
will
be
also
included
in
the
water
fund
for
one
hundred
and
sixty
one
thousand
dollars.
F
N
N
N
We
have
again
charges
for
services,
that's
all
the
water
rates
and
we
have
interdepartmental
others
that
decreased
because
of
that
CDBG
grant
an
interest
in
previous
years
was
under-budgeted
I.
Believe
we've
been
getting
over
$100,000
every
year,
so
we
just
wanted
to
accurately
reflect
that
revenue
source
and
then
again
the
financing
for
the
water
project
of
eighteen
point:
three:
four
million,
like.
D
N
D
N
G
One
of
the
one
of
the
thoughts
that
that
we
had,
as
we
considered
that
you
know
we're,
really
really
a
lean
staff,
which
is
is
good
and
right
now
the
employees
are
stretching
themselves
in
every
department
in
order
to
accomplish
what
they
have
to
do
and
definitely
they're
increasing
their
skill,
set
right
now
on
handling
different
situations
and
they're
doing
a
great
job
at
that
as
well
and
the
thought
is
you
know
it's
it's
it's
probably
not
the
time
to
say:
hey
employees,
we
want
you
to
work
harder.
We
want
you
to
be
smarter.
G
H
D
B
N
So,
yes,
it
does
include
a
3%
merit,
increase
and
again
that's
just
across
city
wide
and
as
far
as
capital,
again
with
the
water.
My
project
is
included
in
there
and
that's
the
85%
of
that
project
and
then
again
with
that
service,
and
that
includes
also
previous
debt
service.
I'm.
Sorry,
that
should
be
a.
N
So
for
culinary
impact,
we
are
appending
baby
studies
that
should
come
in
future
council
meeting
and
so
as
of
now
we
are
decreasing
the
revenues
by
15%
and
we
use
that
percentage
and
across
the
board
for
all
of
the
permitting
and
development.
Just
not
knowing
and
at
this
moment
in
time
how
the
effects
of
copán
19
will
impact
development
across
the
city
and
so
we're
keeping
a
close
eye
on
now.
N
We're
talking
to
Public
Works
were
in
discussions
with
developers
seeing
how
how
much
activity
Public
Works
is
having
at
this
point,
but
that's
a
very
conservative
estimate.
We
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
anticipated
that
it
should
it
happen.
But
as
of
now,
as
far
as
I
understand,
there's
not
been
a
slowdown
in
development
with
our
discussions.
That's
not
yesterday!
So
again,
that's
a
very
conservative
estimate
and
as
far
as
operating
expenditures,
it's
there's
nothing.
N
There
is
it's
mostly
capital,
we're
just
doing
the
waterline
project
and
then
there
is
the
a
little
bit
of
budget
for
development
reimbursements.
We
don't
know
what
those
are
yet
those
10
throughout
the
year,
so
we
will
adjust
that
as
necessary
and
then
Stacey
your
question
about
the
other
portion
of
the
debt
service.
This
is
where
it
is.
The
other
8
and
80%
of
the
state
loan
was
in
the
culinary
water
impact
food.
N
Okay,
so
secondary
impact-
and
we
estimate
these
sales
up
3
percent-
and
that's
just
due
to
growth-
we
don't
anticipate
any
change
in
usage,
your
water,
we
don't
speak
of
a-19
impacting
that
animal
we
are
anticipating.
Actually,
we've
received
a
grant
from
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation
for
1.5
million,
and
this
is
for
P,
I
and
meters.
I
think
we
discussed
this
a
little
bit
at
the
budget
retreat.
N
O
Right
this
starts
the
going
in
and
storing
all
the
meters
on
existing
ones.
Now
you
may
remember
back
April
the
council
approved
that
all
new
meters
from
last
April
going
forward.
Excuse
me
all
new
connections
would
have
a
meter.
This
is
going
back
and
starting
and
it
gets
a
good
start
on
retrofitting.
All
of
the
old
connections
adding
a
meter
in
okay.
F
O
G
D
G
That's
really
the
goal,
and
that
is
the
that
is
the
mandate.
That's
coming
down
the
line
that
all
cities
eventually
will
be
fully
metered
with
secondary
irrigation,
and
so
by
getting
a
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
grant.
We
definitely
get
a
leg
up
on
on
starting
that
plan,
but
Scott
will
be
working
on.
Like
Scott
said
we
haven't
decided
where
these
meters
are
even
going.
Yet
we
need
to
evaluate
that
and
then
bring
forward
the
rest
of
the
plan
on
how
to
put
meters
in
the
whole
city
and.
O
H
O
G
A
H
G
The
the
these
meters
were
assuming
is
going
to
be
right
around
a
10-year
life
cycle.
Now
they
may
go
longer,
because
what
we're
looking
at
is
a
meter
that
does
not
have
moving
parts
on
the
inside
pressurized
irrigation
is
very,
it's
got
a
lot
of
total
suspended
solids.
It
chews
up
meters,
so
we're
looking
at
another
kind
of
meter,
so
we're
assuming
a
10-year,
but
it
most
likely
will
be
longer
than
that.
The.
O
N
N
G
G
Right
right,
but
but
Rob
you're
right,
that
has
to
be
evaluated,
especially
as
we
as
we
move
towards
a
metered
system
and
we'll
have
to
evaluate
also
consumption,
because
consumption
will
actually
change
what.
Hopefully,
it
changes
Oh
with
meters.
So
people
can
understand
how
much
they're,
using
hopefully.
N
So
moving
on
to
your
personal
and
operating,
and
we
discuss
that
reallocation.
So
this
is
where
the
decrease
comes
in
for
secondary
water.
We
just
reallocated
a
lot
of
that
of
salary
to
water,
to
better
reflect
overload,
and
our
operations
budget
went
up
slightly.
The
recommended
and
the
study
for
a
TSST,
recycled
water,
runoff
capture
and
on
a
date
with
you
and
I,
expand
on
that
a
little
bit.
N
G
N
N
That
service
goes
up
just
slightly
and
based
on
our
debt
service
schedule.
So
not
a
lot
of
change
there
and
then
just
for
a
note,
culinary
water
or
subsidy
for
the
operations
that
service
in
this
secondary
water
phone
is
eight
hundred
seventy
thousand
and
that
went
down
slightly
from
last
year
and
we'll
keep
the
weight
down
as
the
debt
service
goes
down
slightly
every
year
and
then
our
because
of
this
PA
meter
project.
H
I
know
I
brought
this
up
before,
but
maybe
just
I
want
to
bring
it
up
again.
I
I
think
there's
just
one
councilmember
speaking
and
love
to
get
others
input,
but
I
think
we
ought
to
be
accounting
for
that.
Subsidy
is
alone,
our
culinary
water
users
are
supplementing
and
not
every
culinary
user
is
a
secondary
water
user,
and
so
I
would
love
to
see
where
those
funds
are
separated,
where
we're
accounting
for
it
and
that
loan
would
someday
be
paid
back
to
help
that
culinary
fund.
We
did
the
rate
analysis.
H
N
On
the
books
on
the
financial
statements,
you're
gonna
see
everything
combined
in
one
water
fund.
It's
all
going
to
be
combined
the
culinary
and
as
far
as
budgeting,
we
keep
that
in
secondary
water.
So
in
essence,
there's
no
lonely
buy
for
which,
which
we
can
do
I
mean
I,
was
not
showing
about
or
just
showing
that
it's
it's
a
deficit
every
year.
So
it's
not
money
transferring
back
and
forth
necessarily-
and
it's
just
reflected
in
the
financial
statements
this
one
water
funds,
yeah.
H
I
get
that
I
just
think
it's
better
to
keep
it
separate,
though,
just
because
those
are
two
very
distinct
users
right.
If
I
take
jcw
use
our
laundry
mats,
you
know
they're
all
paying
higher
culinary
fees,
but
if
it's
going
to
pay
for
secondary
water
service
that
they
don't
really
benefit
a
ton
from
that
doesn't
seem
like
it's
the
fair
way
that
we
should
be
charging
for
service.
It
should
be
if
we
need
to
supplement
that
okay,
but
let's
make
sure
that
money
shifting
back
to
those
water
users.
N
H
And
again,
when
we
did
this
study
with
:
Bowen
Collins
and
whatever
their
other
name
is
core.
Third
guy
always
gets
his
name
forgotten,
but
you
know
it
wasn't
based
on
us
doing
this,
and
so
we're
definitely
impacting
our
study
in
what
our
fees
are
actually
being
charged.
If
we
don't
put
that
money
back
into
the
system,
we
are
hurting
ourselves
with
our
studies
and
actually
under
charging.
H
B
B
H
My
worry
is
is
when
that
time
comes,
do
in
the
secondary
water
can
afford
to
start
paying
that
back,
and
maybe
that's
when
it's
metered
or
whatever,
if
it's
not
alone,
what's
going
to
give
the
guidance
to
the
council
at
that
point
in
time
or
the
leadership
at
that
point
in
time
that
should
be
repaid
and
that's
kind
of
the
idea
behind
it.
Just
like
we
did
with
the
perpetual
care
fund
on
the
cemetery
right,
we
took
money
out,
borrowed
it
we're
borrowing
from
ourselves.
It's
just
how
you
account
for
it
on
the
book.
B
A
I
heard
about
that
and
they
are
using
a
tremendous
amount
of
culinary
water
and,
and
it
is
that
appears
that
it's
subsidizing
or
help
subsidizing
the
pressurized
irrigation,
and
so
that
that
makes
sense
to
be
able
to
delineate
the
two
and
have
that
barely
you
know
very
clearly
outlined
I
think
going
to
be
critical.
I.
I
Personally
think,
there's
a
general
principle
there
that
I
think
Rob
is
talking
about
you
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Rob,
but
it's
basically
that
everything
should
take
care
of
itself,
that
there
should
be
numbers
that
can
show
expenses
and
revenue
for
every
when
I
say
every.
Basically,
every
major
fund
and
things
like
that,
so
that
everybody
is
paying
their
own
fair
share
of
whatever
there
is
they're
using
and
I.
H
H
H
It's
hard
to
say:
hey,
culinary
water
users
you're
not
using
this
or
getting
benefit
that
some
of
you,
but
we're
gonna.
Take
that
money
that
you're
paying
in
and
benefit
some
other
system
in
the
city
and
I.
Think
that
ought
to
be
the
case
for
every
utility
fee
that
we
have.
If
there's
a
time
when
we
have
to
kind
of
borrow
from
ourselves,
if
you
will,
then
let's
just
put
it
on
the
book,
so
we
make
sure
that
that's
a
fair
way
of
doing
it
going
forward
and.
I
N
And
again,
to
be
clear-
and
at
this
point
we
separate
those
funds-
it's
only
combined
for
display
and
financial
statement
purposes.
But
at
this
point,
when
we
say
subsidy,
that's
just
financial
statement
purposes,
but
right
now,
it's
basically
the
pif
end
is
being
depleted.
The
fund
balance
is
being
depleted
by
the
eight
and
seventy
thousand.
So
again,
a
rate
increase
with
or
a
rate
study
would
help
alleviate
that.
But
we
we
are
tracking,
that
that's
information
that
we
have
so.
F
F
From
from
both
of
those
discussions
and
put
both
of
those
rates,
I
do
know
that
we
were
trying
to
come.
This
was
Rob's
point.
We
were
trying
to
come
to
closer
to
what
the
cost
was,
and
we
were
doing
it
incrementally
so
I
I,
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
I,
don't
understand
the
impacts
for
accounting
and
what
it
would
happen.
If
we
didn't
do
it,
but
to
me,
we're
already
trained
to
get
there
and
we're
trying
to
get
to
where
the
users
are
paying
for
the
service
that
they're
using
I.
H
Think
that
was
on
the
sewer
discussion.
We
just
recently
had
the
or
referencing
that
I'm
trying
to
get
there
over
at
Kirti
time.
My
recollection
and
I
could
be
wrong
in
2012
when
Brad
and
Clark
and
I
first
got
on
the
council
is
when
they
really
did
an
in-depth
study
on
these
water
rates
and
they
went
in
and
took
a
look
at
future
impacts
and
what
lines
need
to
be
repaired
and
all
of
that
stuff.
H
To
my
knowledge,
I,
don't
know
if
we've
done
that
kind
of
a
full-blown
study
with
bones
and
Colin,
then
I
think
what
we've
done
is
use
that
data
that
then
uses.
How
do
we
treat
different
water
users
right?
What's
a
Multi,
Family
and
redefining
the
terms,
but
I
don't
know
if
we've
done
the
full-blown
study
that
goes
into
the
cost
since
2012
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
on
that
bone.
A
G
N
Far
as
denying
items
for
charges
for
services
again
up
three
percent,
they
grants
for
the
Bureau
of
Reclamation
is
1.5
million,
and
then
interest
didn't,
go
up
level
lots
and
we
just
have
a
bit
of
a
cash
balance.
Their
personnel
went
down
because
of
the
reallocation
the
operating
went
up
about.
Forty
thousand,
that's
the
request
for
the
TSS
D
study.
A
capital
went
up
for
the
P
I
meter,
installation,
3.1
million,
and
then
our
debt
changed
just
based
on
the
debt
service
schedule.
So
it
went
out
just
slightly.
N
Of
course,
impact
fees
we
did
and
my
decrease
of
15%
for
impact
fees
across
the
board
and
again
we're
pending
those
impact,
these
studies
and
that
may
change
operating.
There's
no
change
there.
Well,
there's
a
change
of
the
impact
they
study,
so
that
went
down
at
this
year
because
we
don't
like
that
in
2021,
penile
and
capture.
This
is
more
of
a
placeholder
for
that
TSS
D,
study
too,
and
potentially
buy
land
for
that
project
and
then,
as
far
other
capital
and
just
a
little
bit
of
developer
reimbursement
as
a
placeholder
for
the
impact
event.
N
So
here's
a
bigger
picture
of
where
we're
at
this
is
available
after
reserves,
and
so,
instead
of
looking
at
the
whole
bail
fund
balance,
we
would
like
to
look
at
where,
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
cash
balance
what's
available
to
spend
and
as
we
look
at
re
assets
or
liabilities,
and
then
what
we
are
going
to
capture
for
the
20/20
net
revenue,
and
so
our
total
available
fund
balance
for
culinary
water
is
just
over
14
million.
And
then
we
take
our
targeted
reserves,
which
is
25%
of
our
operating
budget,
which
is
personnel
and
operating.
N
And
then,
of
course,
we
need
to
set
aside
those
funds
for
debt
service
as
well.
So
we
take
that
out
of
available
to
unbalanced,
to
get
it
being
that
we
have
available
after
reserves.
So
for
hope
that
makes
sense.
A
lot
of
numbers
and
available
at
reserves
for
culinary
water
is
13
million.
335,
culinary
impact
is
just
under
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
secondary
water
and
is
7.8
million,
and
then
our
secondary
impact
and
still
carrying
a
negative.
However,
we
are
chipping
away
at
that,
because
our
net
revenues
are
positive
every
year.
If.
H
I
could
jump
in
here
just
real
quick
in
it.
A
couple
points
I
wanted
to
just
make.
One
is
if
we're
going
to
go
out
and
do
a
loan
on
culinary
water
I'm
going
to
pay
it
through
impact
fees.
This
is
the
charge
that
really
scares
me
the
most,
because
we
did
that
with
secondary
water
and
we
missed
a
mark
big-time
and
we're
paying
for
it
now.
The
comfort
that
I
have
is,
you
know,
there's
a
little
bit
more
money
in
the
culinary
fund
in
the
in
the
fund
balance.
H
N
Well,
as
you
can
see,
let
me
let
me
see
if
I
understand
your
question,
so
it's
we're
not
supplementing
as
far
as
culinary
water,
that's
kind
of
my
point
as
far
as
financial,
sorry,
I'm,
Lois,
I'm,
tired,
but
as
far
as
my
point
with
financials
versus
individual
funds,
so
we
are
tracking
that
in
secondary
water
and
so
we,
the
fund
balance
is
being
depleted.
It's
not
necessarily
a
cash
going
from
culinary
water
to
secondary
water.
H
I'm,
a
little
confused
on
that,
maybe
just
showing
me,
you
know
how
that
works.
You
know
an
email
that
would
have
that
financial
because,
as
I
look
at
it
from
here,
you
know
I'm
paying
a
secondary
water
fee.
It's
a
separate
line
item
on
my
bill.
It's
being
tracked
separate,
goes
into
the
accounting
system,
culinary
I'm,
paying
separate
for,
and
it's
being
tracked
separate
right
and
we
do
the
expenses
and
the
revenue
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
that
leaves
us
our
reserves
right.
H
It's
left
over,
so
we're
tracking
it
that
way
and
we're
saying
hey.
We
got
7.8
million
in
reserves
over
here,
but
other
parts
we're
sitting
here,
we're
taking
money.
I
know
it's
not
a
cash
transfer,
it's
one
fund,
but
on
the
internal
books,
we're
taking
800,000
and
putting
it
over
here.
Is
it
from
that
idea
that
we
want
to
budget
off
of
operations
and
not
use
reserves
to
balance
a
budget
or
why
aren't
we
taking
that
reserves
to
fund
the
expenses
inside
secondary
yeah.
D
N
H
N
N
H
Well,
maybe
I
need
to
set
up
a
meeting
with
their
separate
cuz,
now
I'm
just
a
thoroughly
confused
on
the
concept
that
when
we
say
we're
taking
money
from
culinary,
but
would
the
way
you're
doing
the
budget
hearing
what
you're
showing
we
shouldn't
even
call
it
that
we're
taking
money
from
the
culinary
that
makes
it
dense.
Yes,.
N
N
N
D
N
It's
somebody
on
t,
sewer
and
the
overall
sewer
budget,
the
percent
and
that's
just
basically
and
sales
charges
for
our
services,
our
overall
personnel
operating
and
went
up
by
six
point
two.
This
is
due
to
new
TSST
volume
charge
it's
it's
like
the
last
year
or
so,
and
we're
still
looking
into
why
that
is.
You
need
to
look
at
volume,
charges
that
we
are
anticipating
another
increase
as
well
just
with
the
trends
and
then
our
capital
projects
decreased
by
83%,
and
this
is
because
we
do
super
bursting
and
semi-annually.
F
N
N
For
charges
for
services
is
about
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
or
three
percent
we'll
see
a
slight
increase
in
interest
revenue
and
then,
as
far
as
expenses,
we
are
decreasing.
Our
personnel
slightly
and
I
believe
a
lot
of
that
stood
yeah
a
lot
of
that's
due
to
overtime
and
we
decreased
or
over
time
operating,
went
up
because
of
the
t,
SSD
charges
that
were
anticipating
and
then
a
capital
decreased
due
to
and
projects
that
are
semiannual.
We
had
sewer
line
sewer
first
thing,
which
is
semiannual.
D
K
D
N
N
It's
hard
to
say
from
year
to
year
we're
anticipating
this
is
our
best
gas
under
30
lot
sales,
and
so
our
total
revenue
will
be
about
at
26,000
much.
That
goes
to
loan
repayment
calculates
and,
as
Robin
mentioned
earlier,
our
interest
earn
is
transferred
to
the
general
fund.
We
anticipate
that
to
be
about
nine
million,
excuse
me,
nine
thousand
and
then,
as
of
December
2020,
that
should
be
2019.
My
apologies
is
the
loan
balance
is
four
hundred
and
thirty
six
thousand
dollars.
N
And
so,
as
David
mentioned,
we
are
expecting
quite
a
big
big
hit
on
sales
tax
and
it's
difficult
to
know
how
to
balance
the
budget
when
we
are
going
to
have
such
a
decline
in
revenue
and
so
I
want
to
preface
the
overview
of
capital
projects.
By
saying
this
is
probably
where
ever
taking
our
biggest
hit
is
some
of
these
general
funded
capital
projects?
N
So
as
we
go
through
this
and
I
just
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
as
far
as
these
charts,
it
just
shows
you
right
where
I'm
spending
our
our
funds
on
for
public
safety
in
the
majority
of
the
capital
projects
are
for
public
safety
and
that's
due
primarily
to
the
fire
station
project
and
we'll
go
through
this
in
more
detail.
But
this
is
a
big
overview
of
Public.
Works
is
4.2
million
parts
is
4.7
million.
N
N
So
finding
those
projects
we
have
bond
proceeds
of
8.4
million
and
grants
again
that
magic
project
of
5.4
million
we've
had
some
impact
fee
funds
funding
and
some
of
these
projects
as
well,
Class,
B
and
C,
is
for
the
road
projects
as
well
as
the
quarter
cent
sales
tax
I
began
last
year
and
then
a
little
bit
of
part
grant,
which
we
will
revise
that
and
once
bigots
and
be
provoking
council
and
then
general
fund
will
subsidize
the
rest.
Four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
have.
N
A
great
question
I
mean
I
was
blind
council
just
this
week
and
we
are
anticipating
if
I'm
wrong,
David
may
six.
So
we're
going
to
see
I
know
what
the
stake
does
at
they
open
at
business
and
we're
keeping
track
of
the
market
stock
market
oil
prices
just
to
see
him
in
there
or
consulting
with
them
almost
on
a
daily
basis
did.
G
D
G
D
N
So
I
wanted
to
take
the
approach
of
going
through
each
departments,
project,
capital
projects
and
what
they've
requested
versus
what
we're
recommending
and
based
on
our
funding.
So
the
biggest
one
and
is
pavement
management
plan,
they've
requested
2.2
million
and
we
based
on
our
revenue
or
best
guess,
is
for
Class
C
so
starts
property
tax.
We
can
fund
one
play
965,
and
so
that's
what
we're
recommending
to
counsel
on
that.
H
That
in
2007,
when
they
raised
property
taxes
and
they
can't
find
future
councils,
but
that
was
five
hundred
thousand
that
was
supposed
to
be
set
aside
for
pavement
and
that's
what
we've
always
tried
to
hold
of
that
on
the
property
tax
side.
I
just
wondered
if
that
something.
We
could
try
to
keep
that
commitment
to
that
five
hundred
thousand
going
towards
that
pavement
management
plan.
H
What
I'm
going
off
of
in
and
Clark
and
Brad
would
have
a
good
recollection
of
this
as
well.
I
mean
Heidi
and
Dale
were
very
adamant
on
that
five
hundred
thousand,
always
being
there
now
how
we
got
to
that
five
hundred
thousand.
Maybe
I
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
that,
but
that
was
the
number
they
said.
They've
set
aside
for
the
pavement
plan,
and
that
was
part
of
it.
H
H
G
B
G
That
property
tax
increase,
I,
don't
know
the
percentage
rate.
It
was
can't
remember
how
many
mills
it
was,
but
it
it
didn't
generate.
It
didn't
generate
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
revenue
and
so
what
we
actually
took
that
rate
and
then
we
multiplied
added
the
number
of
homes
that
have
come
on
since
then
and
said
hey.
If
they
were
to
give
the
same
property
tax
increase,
we
would
we
would
come
up
to
the
two
fifty
two,
so
we've
actually
put
a
little
bit
of
growth
on
there
as
well.
G
D
G
H
Have
it
in
some
historical
budgets
as
well,
because
I
thought
that
they
said
they
set
up
a
separate
fund
for
that
of
some
nature
of
earmarking
that
500
every
year,
just
from
what
Kathy
and
and
other
past
financial
people
had
said,
so,
don't
there's
a
way
of
going
back
and
looking
that
was
historically
I.
Just
don't
want
to
go
away
from
what
progress
we've
already
had
and
started.
So
if
my
memories,
often
the
numbers
off
I
just
would
love
to
have
a
refresher
on
where
that
that
actual
number
has
been
historically
and.
N
B
Know-
and
I
and
I
agree
with
you-
rob
on
there
as
the
principal
I
think
whatever
was
passed
by
that
body,
whatever
that
dollar
amount
is,
and
I
and
I
think
that
as
we've
gone
through
this
budget,
we've
tried
to
hold
to
that,
but
to
get
it
into
the
$500,000
mark.
If
that's
just
a
random
number
that
we've
had
told
or
we've
heard
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
number
is
for
me,
I
knew
there
was
something
and
we
and
then
it's.
B
It
was
somewhat
earmarked
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
specifically
in
the
motion
or
even
in
that
resolution.
But
with
this
koba
thing,
I
think
it's
it's
a
little
bit
different.
It's
just
a
little
different
ballgame
right
now,
with
this
budget
and
Howard
we're
trying
to
handle
it
even
knowing
the
roads
aren't
the
top
priority.
H
I
totally
understand
the
pressures
with
Kovac,
but
that
kind
of
goes
back
to
exactly
what
I
was
talking
about
in
the
retreat.
Without
having
forecasting
and
looking
at
our
position,
we
had
a
huge
economic
expansion
from
2009
to
you,
know,
2020
and
we've
never
really
increased,
that
number
from
the
general
budget
and
and
I
just
look
at
that
as
a
council,
member
and
I
feel
bad
about
that,
because,
if
we're
just
sticking
with
2007
numbers
13
years
ago,
that
was
what
we
started
with
understanding.
This
is
the
year,
but
maybe
that's
the
year.
H
We
have
to
take
it
this
year,
but
I
just
hope
going
forward.
We've
got
to
find
a
way
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
if
that's
balancing
it
out
through
a
property
tax
increase
which
is
not
right
for
this
year,
definitely
given
what
Cove
it
is
out
there,
but
you
know
we
got
to
find
a
way
to
become
less
dependent
on
that
sales
tax.
H
This
is
an
exact
reason
of
why
it
can't
be
and
and
why
I
was
so
for
that
funding
of
a
utility
for
the
roads,
because
it
actually
is
something
that
isn't
contingent
upon
sales
tax.
But
if
that
has
been
pulled
out
from
us
from
the
courts
and
the
legislature
is
not
going
to
do
it,
the
only
other
option
really
is
that
fund
roads
with
property
taxes
so
anyway,
just
my
thoughts.
N
Yeah,
so
welcome
back
to
that
and
look
more
into
that
make
sure
that
there's
not
a
resolution.
You're
marking
that
500,000
it
stars.
Other
capital
projects
go
down.
The
line
7
and
north
connection
recommended
1.9
a
and
that's
what
was
requested
as
well
ad
a
sidewalks
we
decreased
about
10,000
requests
was
50,000
were
recommending
40
safer
to
schools,
70,000
traffic
calming,
and
we
took
out
the
stars
recommended
streetlight
upgrades
again
we're
just
trying
to
pull
money
and
from
sources.
N
N
So
for
building
maintenance,
we
had
several
requests
for
carpet
of
paint
from
the
library
and
some
fire
panels.
Boiler
replacement,
Learning,
Center
renovation,
a
transformer
and
a
fire
station
bay
lighting
to
led
so
out
of
the
hundred.
Sixty
nine
thousand
were
recommending.
Eighty
three
and
all
of
these
are
coming
out
of
general
fund.
N
Fitness
center,
a
requested
229,000,
we
are
recommending
to
spend
more
necessary
projects,
deck
drain
replacement
for
eighteen
thousand
and
and
spin
room
was
was
a
request
as
well
over
recommending
thirty,
five
thousand
total
projects
are
fifty
three
thousand
recommended,
and
most
of
these
all
these
are
being
here.
General
funds.
N
For
Parks,
the
largest
project
is
the
200
South
bike,
pedestrian
path
for
4.1
million
that
is
funded
by
a
Matt
grant
trail
maintenance,
playground,
replacement
parking
lot,
pickle,
ball,
Henley
filter.
All
these
are
general
funded
and
then
the
art
died
around
about
will
be
Park
impact
in
the
trail
expansion
park
impact
as
well.
G
O
G
F
G
Thank
you,
and
so
this
is
a
set-aside.
We
actually
can't
resurface
the
park.
So
this
is
a
set-aside
to
do
it
in
in
a
future
year,
but
we
can't
do
it
for
the
8000
or
the
5500,
but
we
don't
want
to
not
set
aside
some
dollars
for
that
right.
So
this
this
would
all
this
will
be
a
set-aside
for
another
year
gotcha.
G
A
G
We
were
able
to
Scott,
and
you
can
speak
to
this,
but
the
design
of
the
roundabout
came.
You
know
we're
getting
those
preliminary
numbers
and
it
looks
like
the
engineer's
estimate
on
that
and
Scott.
You
can
correct
me,
but
Horrocks
engineers
put
together
their
estimate
for
what
the
roundabout
would
be
and
it
would
come
in
less
than
the
500
yep.
O
A
A
O
A
O
D
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K
If
I
could
speak
a
little
bit,
I
was
in
a
few
meetings
when
they
were
discussing
that
with
Camden.
It's
actually
an
expansion.
So
it's
an
additional
extension
of
a
trail
over
towards
that
100
West,
so
people
that
live
south
of
I-15,
especially
in
that
ivory
development,
it's
some
easier
access
for
them
to
get
to
those
parks.
So
it's
not
it's.
It's
basically,
a
new
segment
of
trail,
that's
on
the
master
plan
and
it's
it's
going
to
Rotary
Park.
Basically,
the
expansion
will
be
from
there
to
I
believe
that
under
underpass
on
I-15
yeah.
G
A
N
Community
services,
we
have
a
few
products
that
were
recommending
cemetery
expansion,
and
this
is
just
a
placeholder.
You
don't
anticipate
any
necessity
and
if
anyone
ate
your
mark
that
and
then
barber
and
I
based
on
the
discussion
and
that
would
be
offended
by
apartment
and
then
solo
golf
course-
that's
sitting
for
240,000
and
that's
an
annual
subsidy.
N
F
N
N
N
So
we
discussed
capital
projects
I
just
want
to
go
over,
be
capital
equipment
really
quickly,
because
this
is
also
funded
a
lot
by
general
fund
and
total
requests
for
six
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand,
and
we
are
recommending
two
hundred
and
sixty
one
thousand.
We
looked
at
essential
or
recurring
and
project
our
equipment
or
payments
fire
we're
recommending
sixty
seven
thousand.
This
is
for
rescue
equipment,
dispatch,
upgrades
and
ICU
transports.
Please
is
twenty
five
thousand
for
annual
equipment
replacement
and
the
streets.
N
They
have
existing
leases
portion
of
many
acts
and
systems
gifts,
gear
that
is
also
being
funded
by
a
enterprise
funds
parks
is
requesting
and
a
jump,
trailer
fitness
center
and
Recreation
and
would
like
some
equipment
replacement
that
were
recommending
for
the
fitness
center
as
well
as
good,
so
Soccer
Schools
and
the
cemetery
has
existing
leases
on
some
of
their
equipment.
So
not
a
lot
of
new
priority
tackle
equipments
and,
as
you
can
see,
we're
recommending
to
say
not
a
fourth
of
a
bit
less
requested.
N
N
P
P
I
N
N
So
looking
at
this
on
a
summary
of
the
line
item
basis,
so
your
question
for
leasing
that
stayed
flat
administrative
charge
stayed
flat
and
general
fund
transfer
went
up
a
bit
so
that
subsidy
is
about
twenty
thousand
dollars.
From
last
year,
personnel
increased
due
to
merit,
increases
and
benefits
operating,
went
down
slightly
and
then
capital
again
for
that
feasibility
study
continuing
into
the
next
year.
N
Hey
last
fun
is
technology.
This
was
a
new
fund
that
was
created
last
year
or
this
current
year
in
2020,
and
it's
an
internal
service
funds.
So
it
relies
on
charges
from
other
departments
in
the
general
fund
to
pay
for
the
the
charges,
technology
expenses
in
this
phone
and
the
hope
is
to
get
to
a
replacement
program
with
covin
18
were
not
quite
there
yet,
so
it's
basically
paying
for
direct
charges
and
just
putting
them
in
this
internal
service
fund.
It
does
include
a
landline.
N
The
landline
phone
system
and
also
Department,
like
I,
said
prime
necessity,
technologies
being
paid
for
out
of
individual
departments
and
so
you're
going
to
see
the
expense
in
this
technology
phone
and
then
a
corresponding
charge
to
each
department.
For
that
expense
and
the
allocation
is
based
on
the
number
of
phones
and
computers
and
specific
departments,
and
that's
right.
It's
an
self-supporting
as
far
as
paying
for
the
individual
charges.
N
We
decrease
the
technology
budget,
so
we
didn't
want
to
burden
the
the
general
fund
as
much
as
possible,
so
these
are
just
recurring
annual
payments
for
operating.
So
a
lot
of
your
website
maintenance
software
maintenance,
not
a
lot
of
new
expense
and
any
new
expense.
We're
just
taking
out
of
the
fund
balance,
so
we're
not
paying
out
of
the
general
fund
departments
and
so
you're
gonna
see
a
beginning
fund
balance
resting
about
73,000
and
we're
going
to
deplete
that
in.
In
the
case,
we
need
any
additional
computers.
N
B
Great
job
I
just
know
how
hard
you
guys
have
worked,
I
appreciate
it
all
the
department
heads
they've
gone
through
this
a
paper
at
a
time
and
they
have
scratched
it.
They've
come
back
to
it,
as
information
has
changed,
so
I
just
really
appreciate
the
work
and
what
a
great
presentation
using
zoom.
Thank
you
Anna
for
making
it.
You
know
legible
for
us
to
understand
and
to
see
that's,
not
an
easy
task.
So
any
other
questions
by
the
council.
Oh.