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From YouTube: BOE FY25 CIP & Capitol Budget Workshop 9-18-2023
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A
B
B
B
B
All
set
this
Workshop
is
being
broadcast,
live
on,
aacps
TV,
which
can
be
found
on
channel
96
on
Comcast
and
astound,
and
channel
36
on
Verizon
High
Definition
broadcast
can
be
seen
on
channel
996
on
Comcast
channel
496
on
astound
and
channel
1961
on
Verizon.
The
workshop
can
also
be
viewed
Live
on
aacps
YouTube
channel.
C
Right,
thank
you,
madam
president,
to
those
who
are
here
today
and
those
who
are
viewing
this
via
online
I
am
excited
to
present
the
FY
2025
capital
budget
and
capital
Improvement
program.
This
is
a
workshop
where
no
action
from
the
board
will
be
required
at
this
time
to
take
us.
Through
this
presentation,
we
will
have
Bill,
Heiser
and
Kyle
roof
and
I
will
pass
it
over
to
staff.
D
Thank
you
good
evening,
president
Tobin
vice
president
silkworth
and
members
of
the
board
of
education
for
the
record.
I
am
Bill
Heiser,
Chief,
Operating,
Officer
and
I'm
joined
tonight
by
my
colleague,
Kyle
roof
director
of
facilities,
tonight's
Board
of
Education
Workshop
is
a
presentation
of
the
superintendent
bedell's
recommended
FY
2025
capital
budget
and
capital
Improvement
program
tonight.
In
our
presentation
we
will
be
reviewing
the
CIP
process,
summarizing
important
CIP
issues
and
sharing
the
FY
2024
5
capital
budget,
which
will
include
the
major
capital
projects
and
reoccurring
Capital
renewal,
renewal
projects.
D
So
I'll
begin
with
reviewing
the
CIP
process
as
you'll
see
on
the
screen.
This
slide
presented
shows
an
overview
of
the
CIP
development
and
approval
cycle.
Development
of
the
CIP
starts
in
July
and
builds
off
the
previously
approved
CIP
by
August.
A
draft
is
presented
for
internal
review
and
the
product
is
presented
in
September
to
the
Board
of
Education
through
briefing
Workshop
tonight,
hearing
and
initial
approval
at
the
second
board
meeting
of
the
month.
D
D
75
percent
recommendations
are
provided
by
the
IAC
in
December
in
February,
the
Board
of
Education
votes
on
approving
the
CIP
to
move
to
the
county
executive.
Ninety
percent
of
the
IAC
recommendations
are
provided
and
we
hold
a
meeting
with
the
County's
planning
Advisory
Board.
In
the
first
week
of
May,
we
received
the
county,
executive's
budget
recommendation
and
100
percent
from
the
IAC.
D
There
are
various
State
funding:
Milestones
are
required
for
project
approval.
Feasibility
studies
are
required
for
most
Renovations
and
replacement
projects.
This
is
essential,
a
local
validation
of
the
project
and
a
scope
of
work
document.
This
document
is
reviewed
by
the
state,
but
funding
is
not
approved
at
this
level.
D
D
D
D
Sustainable
facilities
funding
is
always
an
issue
at
both
the
state
and
local
levels.
To
maintain
our
facilities
at
the
current
state.
We
need
a
funding.
We
need
funding
between
279
and
319
million
annually
to
pay
for
Capital
renewal
and
operating
expenses.
This
recommendation
was
presented
in
the
CMP
that
was
approved
by
the
board
on
September
the
6th.
D
Fy24
was
one
of
the
first
years
we
reached
the
recommended
funding
level,
this
largely
attributable
to
non-traditional
and
expiring
Revenue
stream,
including
coveted
relief
funding,
Esser
and
built
to
learn
funding
BTL
on
the
screen.
You
can
see
IAC
CIP
funding
levels
over
the
past
10
fiscal
years.
Historically,
we
receive
between
30
and
45
million
in
state
CIP
funding.
This
is
the
largest
contributing
factor
is
the
size
of
the
district
we
represent
between
nine
and
ten
percent
of
the
overall
State
student
enrollment
annually.
D
D
One
of
the
largest
issues
we
Face
from
a
funding
standpoint
is
inflation
and
escalation
of
prices.
Each
year
the
interagency
commission
on
school
construction
adjusts
the
cost
square
foot
to
construct
school
buildings.
The
cumulative
percent
increase
is
noted
in
Blue
on
your
screen
from
the
chart.
You
can
see
that
since
2015
construction
unit
prices
have
increased
80
percent
in
2015,
the
unit
cost
for
building
and
site
improvements
was
250
dollars
gross
square
foot,
while
in
two
two
well
in
2025,
we
are
looking
at
481
gross
square
feet.
D
D
D
F
F
As
a
reminder,
the
blue
bar
at
the
top
of
the
screen
indicates
our
funding
requests
broken
out
into
State
and
County
funding.
Buckets
one
of
the
new
projects
introduced
this
year
is
the
school
bus
facility
and
lot
it's
to
relocate
the
Millersville
office
and
combine
the
maintenance,
parking
and
training
facilities
in
one
location.
The
1.3
million
dollar
request
in
fy25
would
be
to
start
a
feasibility
study
and
initial
design
we're
working
with
our
County
Partners
at
this
time
to
locate
property
for
this
project.
F
Our
four
million
dollar
request
and
funding
for
classroom
Edition
at
Park,
Elementary
School
and
for
County
funding
for
a
future
Edition
project.
Park
Elementary
School
is
scheduled
to
bid
this
fall
or
winter
and
is
anticipated
to
be
completed
in
the
spring
of
2025..
Our
request
for
local
funds
will
be
used
to
support
a
future
Edition
project.
The
project
location
will
be
dependent
upon
the
results
of
redistricting
and
a
review
of
current
enrollment
patterns
and
projections.
F
Cat
North,
the
project
is
currently
finalizing
design,
as
and
as
anticipated
to
break
ground
early
next
year
next
calendar
year
in
2024,
the
project
will
be
completed
for
the
2026-2027
school
year
and
the
center
will
be
located
on
the
Old
Mill
complex
adjacent
to
the
high
school
and
near
the
footprint
of
the
current
Old
Mill
South
Tower.
Our
request
is
for
52
million
dollars
and
that
is
split
between
state
and
local
funding
sources.
F
Thank
you.
Old
Mill,
High
School
will
use
the
same
prototype
design,
As
Old,
Mill,
West,
High,
School
and
Crofton
High
School.
The
school
will
be
located
on
the
Old
Mill
complex
site,
near
where
the
current
baseball
and
softball
fields
are.
Our
request
is
for
69.8
million,
and
that
is
split
between
local
and
state
funds.
Schematic
design
for
this
project
is
scheduled
to
be
presented
to
the
Board
of
Education
in
November
of
this
year.
Pending
funding
approval,
the
school
would
be
occupied
for
the
28-29
school
year.
F
F
So
this
slide
summarizes
the
recurring
projects
that
we
have
requested
for
this
year.
Our
request
for
current
recurring
projects
is
approximately
62.2
million.
Many
of
these
projects
originate
from
that
comprehensive
master
plan
that
was
approved
by
the
board
on
September
6th.
Most
of
the
categories
are
locally
funded,
except
for
the
building
systemics
and
the
Aging
school
programs
which
have
state
contributions.
F
The
projects
that
are
noted
with
an
asterisk
will
be
discussed
in
more
detail
on
upcoming,
slides,
going
down
the
list
healthy
health
and
safety
for
1.2
million
dollars.
This
this
program
includes
projects
such
as
fire
alarms,
Public
public
address
systems,
structural
issues
and
other
safety
and
code
related
projects.
F
Security
for
two
million
dollar
request
includes
new
and
replacement
access
controls
for
buildings,
fences
as
well
as
security,
vestibules,
building,
systemic
or
systemics,
as
we
refer
to
it
in
facilities.
The
32.3
million
dollar
request
includes
replacements
for
HVAC
systems,
roofs
and
control
systems.
These
are
usually
larger
projects.
F
This
is
a
state
funded
category
in
which
we
are
requesting
funds
for
an
HVAC
replacement
at
Lindale,
middle
school
and
the
third
phase
of
a
window.
Walls
and
roof
project
at
Glen,
Burnie
High
School.
It
should
be
noted
that
the
HVAC
needs
represent
one
of
the
single
largest
categories
in
our
fy25
CMP
and
they
represent
37
percent
of
our
needs
over
the
next
10
years.
We
estimate
that
approximately
248
million
dollars
will
need
to
be
allocated
to
upgrade
our
current
HVAC
systems,
and
this
is
just
for
existing
buildings
maintenance
backlog.
F
Our
seven
million
dollar
request
includes
smaller
Capital
renewal
projects
such
as
generators,
smaller
mechanical
electrical
projects,
door,
Replacements
and
window
replacement
projects,
as
well
as
finish
work,
including
tile
and
Cabinetry
in
the
schools,
the
roof
replacement
program.
Our
four
million
dollar
request
is
prioritized
on
the
roof
condition
and
is
a
locally
funded
program.
Roofing
projects
represent
25
or
27
of
our
needs
and,
as
noted
in
the
fy25
CMP,
we
list
15
million
dollars
in
Roofing
projects
that
require
funding
this
fiscal
year.
F
Although
the
request
will
not
cover
all
the
needs
laid
out
in
the
CMP,
it
will
go
towards
addressing
some
of
the
most
critical
roof
replacement
projects.
We
plan
on
increasing
this
funding
for
this
program
in
the
coming
fiscal
years
to
account
for
that
need
relocatable
classrooms,
1.2
million
dollars,
is
being
requested
for
constructing
relocatable
classrooms
at
schools
that
are
over
utilized.
F
This
line
is
a
locally
funded
program
and
it's
funded
primarily
through
impact
fees.
Asbestos
removal
are
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
request,
includes
removal
of
asbestos
to
floor
tiles,
insulation,
soffit
panels
and
doors.
Approximately
50
percent
of
our
schools
still
contain
some
form
of
asbestos
in
building
materials
and
we
are
removing
those
on
an
annual
basis.
F
F
School
Bus
replacement,
the
request
is
two
million
dollars,
and
this
is
for
cyclical
renewal
of
Board,
of
Education
owned
school
buses
and
for
the
expansion
of
alternative
vehicle
and
Van
program
that
we
currently
are
using
the
health
room.
Modification
350
000
request
for
health
room
modifications.
These
are
primarily
prioritized
from
the
county
health
department.
F
School
Furniture
is
a
six
hundred
thousand
dollar
request
and
it
includes
replacement
of
worn
or
broken
School
furniture
or
to
supplement
classroom
furniture
for
increased
student
enrollment
upgrade
various
schools
and
eight
hundred
thousand
dollar
request
is
for
the
modification
based
on
program
needs
and
the
age
of
facilities.
Projects
in
this
category
include
media
center
walls.
A
lot
of
our
schools
had
open
media
centers,
where
it
was
just
outlined
with
bookshelves,
and
we
like
to
put
walls
in
those
now
this,
and
they
also
include
smaller
modifications
such
as
additional
Office
Space
vehicle
replacement.
F
Our
request
is
for
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
This
is
to
replace
our
aging
Fleet
of
vehicles
at
facilities.
This
would
help
us
replace,
dump
trucks,
box,
trucks,
backhoes
and
vans
that
we
use
the
Aging
school
program.
This
request
is
for
575
000.
again.
This
is
a
state
category
that
funds
100
of
the
construction
costs.
F
Fortunately,
House
Bill
1290
was
passed
last
year
that
extended
the
program
indefinitely.
With
increasing
funding
pressure.
We
need
all
the
available
Revenue
sources
that
we
can
have
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
form
of
legislation
doesn't
appear
before
us
again
to
make
sure
this
funding
stream
is
still
around
playground
equipment.
The
priority
list
is
for
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
it
was
developed
based
off
the
age
of
of
the
equipment
out
in
the
playgrounds,
the
number
of
structures
and
the
school
needs.
F
Depending
on
funding
availability.
We
are
looking
at
Brooklyn
Park,
Elementary,
School
van
bockland,
Elementary
School
and
botkin
Elementary
as
the
next
playground
replacement
projects
athletic
stadiums.
Our
request
is
for
3.5
million.
This
money
will
be
used
for
bleachers
and
track
and
turf
renewals.
The
average
life
of
a
turf
field
is
around
10
years,
and
the
cost
to
replace
a
field
is
roughly
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
following
completion
of
Southern
High
School.
Second
Turf
and
Old
Mill
West
High
School.
F
F
F
The
sustainable
initiatives
program
will
be
a
new
reoccurring
program
to
improve
Energy
Efficiency
within
the
school
system.
The
program
will
enable
aacps
to
find
use
available
funds
to
improve
lighting
and
building
automation
controls.
In
addition,
money
can
be
used
to
pursue
grant
opportunities
to
receive
additional
funding.
We
anticipate
BGE
rebates
from
our
large
construction
projects
to
be
used
to
fund
portions
of
this
each
year.
Since
2013
we've
successfully
received
over
four
million
dollars
in
BGE
rebates
and
we
anticipate
another
two
million
dollars
to
be
realized
by
2026.
F
F
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Gentlemen.
I
will,
as
is
our
typical
process
here.
I
will
go
around
in
roll
call
order
and
perhaps,
if
members
have
a
couple
of
questions
that
they
want
to
ask,
we
can
go
through
one
round
and
then,
if
there
are
additional
questions,
we
can
return
so
tonight,
Ms
Ellis
you're
on
Deck.
First.
G
Thank
you
I
count,
four
questions
in
my
mind
right
now,
so
do
you
want
me
to
just
do
it.
G
To
so
I
alluded
to
this
at
the
last
meeting
when
we
were
presented
with
the
proposed
budget-
and
my
question
is
yes,
we
have
two
middle
schools
coming
up,
but
those
are
not
new
middle
schools.
Those
are
replacements.
G
F
Up
on
the
screen
is
a
slide
from
the
redistricting
presentation,
noting
projected
capacities
of
middle
schools
after
redistricting
takes
place,
and
it
really
looks
at
the
2031
school
year.
So
10
years
out,
almost
a
little
less
than
10
years
out
noted
up
on
the
screen.
We
don't
have.
We
don't
anticipate
any
schools
to
be
over
utilized
above
100
capacity,
one
of
the
key
drivers
for
any
new
school
addition,
or
anything
like
that-
requires
a
capacity
need.
That's
beyond
the
available
seats.
F
The
map
that
we're
showing
is
showing
that
we
do
have
availability
of
seats,
and
it
may
require
additional
redistricting
beyond
that
10-year
Horizon
to
account
for
that.
But
there
are
available
seats
and
you
can
see
that
some
of
the
schools
are
less
than
70
percent.
Those
are
indicated
in
that
purple
shade
the
largest
areas
of
growth
that
we
do
see
in
the
county
are
associated
with
the
Arundel
and
Crofton
areas,
right
Sandy.
If
you
could
jump
to
the
next
slide,
but
overall
enrollment
patterns
for
the
middle
schools
are
fairly
stable.
F
You
see
a
dip
in
the
next
two
fiscal
years.
That
bar
in
the
middle
is
the
backward
pass.
So
I
know
years
to
the
left
of
the
bar
are
prior
years
and
then
the
future
years
are
to
the
right,
but
we
still
see
a
steady
increase
in
enrollment
and
that's
mainly
in
that
Croft
and
Arundel
area,
and
that's
where
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
in
that
phase,
two
of
redistricting.
What
that
looks
like
there
are
available
seats
and
we
just
have
to
see
how
we
can
best
utilize.
Those.
F
G
You're
saying
but
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
the
the
redistricting
plan,
if
it's
done
the
way
recommended
there
won't
be
any
high
schools
over
capacity
either.
Will
there.
F
F
Right,
MGT
studies
really
going
to
give
us
guidance
for
27,
FY,
27
and
Beyond,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
our
priorities
set
for
those
years
by
getting
a
very
complete
study.
And
that's
going
to
be
our
Focus
over
the
next
year
and
a
half.
So.
F
Possible
but
the
the
trends
are
not
dictating
that
there
is
a
need
for
either
one
at
this
time
in
the
next
10
years,
because.
G
I'm
I
just
Arundel
middle
busting
at
the
seams,
we're
talking
about
expanding
it
again,
there's
room
at
Arundel,
High,
School
right,
but
we're
talking
about
now,
moving
kids
out
of
a
Rundle
middle
because
there's
not
room
at
the
middle
school,
but
there
is
at
the
high
school.
So
are
we
potentially
is
that
potentially
going
to
be
a
recommendation
to
move
kids
out
of
the
Arundel
district
for
middle
school
and
then
back
in
for
high
school.
F
We
haven't
gone
into
the
details
of
phase
two
redistricting,
but
certainly
like
we've
said
before
everything's
on
the
table.
As
far
as
what
we,
what
we'll
be
looking
at.
B
All
right,
Miss,
schulhan.
H
E
H
Firstly,
I'm
I
think
I've
stated
this
before
I'm
delighted
that
we're
doing
that
we're
thinking
about
doing
this.
This
was
something
that
was
brought
up
in
a
previous
audit
and
the
Prismatic
audit,
and
so
it's
great
to
see
this
here.
H
F
We
we've
recently
had
conversations
with
them.
We've
been,
this
has
been
ongoing
for
the
past
year
and
a
half
or
so
our
ideal
locations
would
be
somewhere
between
I-97
Route
132
somewhere
along.
That
would
allow
us
access
to
major
highways,
which
would
allow
us
a
great
deal
more
Mobility.
We've
looked
at
four
potential
sites.
F
Unfortunately,
the
the
owners
of
those
sites
were
not
willing
to
be
sellers,
so
we're
still
in
the
process
of
looking.
We
are
likely
in
the
need
for
between
10
and.
F
H
So
I
have
a
follow-up
to
that
and
I'll
do
my
second
question
so
that
where
the
transportation
folks
are
at
the
moment,
that
may
or
may
not
be
a
sustainable
Place
ongoing
because
the
building
is
not
in
the
best
shape.
F
H
Don't
have
that
offhand
I'd
have
to
I.
Just
wonder
you
know
if
it's
already
ours
and
if
we
can
move
stuff
out
of
there
to
a
better
place
like
I,
wonder
if
that
might
be
anyway.
I'm
sure
you
all
have
thought
about
that
thought.
I'd
put
it
into
the
universe,
all
right,
sustainability
initiatives,
awesome,
I,
think
gosh,
it's
probably
been
about
six
months
now
we're
doing
an
audit.
H
Can
you
just
remind
me
I
know
it's
not
part
of
this
specific
capital
and
prevent
I,
obviously
I'm
on
board
for
asking
any
amount
of
money
for
sustainability,
because
we
know
it'll
pay
dividends
in
the
future
and
help
the
planet
which
is
important.
But
what
what
are
we
learning?
The
the
results
of
the
audit
was
that
this
fall
sometime,
yeah.
F
I
Two
questions:
actually
the
first
one
is
North
County.
We
talked
about
North
County,
doing
looking
at
the
possibility
of
a
feasibility
Study
last
year
too
late
to
get
it
into
the
budget,
so
I
kind
of
expected
something
from
the
access
routes
in
and
around
North
County
I,
don't
know
if
that
just
kind
of
fell
off
or
if
it's
somewhere
wrapped.
I
Put
that
out
there,
so
my
real
question
was
so
thank
you.
Dr
Heiser
I
know
that
you
intend
to
put
this
H
back
in
there.
Thinking
I
would
go
away,
but
the
answer
is
no,
so
248
million
dollars
sounds
like
a
lot
for
a
10-year
program.
I
I
I
get
that,
but
is
there
any
conversation
around
making
the
HVAC
a
separate
line,
item
and
priority
in
our
list
of
priorities
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
HVAC
is
just
such
a
high
investment
right
and
it's
a
high
need,
but
it's
just
not
just
the
air
conditioners,
the
heating
and
the
air
conditioning.
So
we
need
it
all
year
round.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
there
any
conversation
to
think
about
putting
that
in
as
his
own
lion
item
so.
F
Bates
Middle
School
is
currently
in
process
Lindale
and
North
County
High
School
we're
all
done
through
those
programs
and
we'll
continue
to
use
those
that
that
program
itself
to
fund
it.
In
addition
to
that,
we've
had
quite
a
bit
of
success
using
Esser
funds
for
HVAC
projects,
I
think
Jeff
and
his
group
have
replaced
somewhere
between
12
and
15
chillers,
which
would
help
with
our
HVAC
projects.
F
One
of
the
biggest
hurdles
that
we
have
is
looking
back.
1999
was
a
big
year
for
aacps
facilities.
We
got
about
100
million
dollars
to
replace
some
of
these
items
that
are
now
aged
out
and
now
we're
hitting
that
bubble.
So
the
roofs,
the
hvacs,
that's
where
they
come
into
play,
where
they're
making
up
over
55
percent
of
our
our
needs
list
right
now,
and
that's
really
what
we
got
to
Target
in
the
next
couple
years.
So
we'll
aggressively
go
after
available
funds.
Healthy
school
funds
is
another
category
that
the
state
contributes
and
I.
F
E
It
is
great
news
to
hear
about
the
feasibility
for
North
County
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
have
in
my
mind,
of
course,
I've
been
to
Glen
Burnie
High,
School
and
I
have
to
say
that
in
terms
of
what's
been
done,
there
window
replacement
and
so
forth
that
our
maintenance
and
custodians
everyone
they've
done
just
a
great
job
in
terms
of
having
things
in
great
shape.
E
However,
having
said
that,
I
still
wonder
about
Glen
Burnie,
High
School
and
the
need
for
something
to
be
done
for
the
Gophers,
but
I'm
just
going
to
put
that
out
there
you
mentioned
that
there
seems
to
be
a
serious
problem
with
the
contractor.
Subcontractors
is.
Is
that
a
real
problem
at
the
moment
or
is
it
just
I
mean?
Can
you
elaborate
on
that?
A
little
bit.
F
The
labor
pool
is
just
really
tight
with
contractors
in
general,
so
what
we
see
is
some
contractors
having
people
shift
from
one
vendor
to
the
next
vendor
and
being
able
to
staff
up
is
sometimes
an
issue.
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I,
too,
have
interest
in
some
of
the
HVAC
Renovations
and
updates
that
we're
doing
when,
when
you
are
listing
out,
Lindale
and
I
believe
it
was
Glen
Burnie
and
a
couple
of
the
others.
What
parameters
are
you
looking
at
specifically
to
determine
whether
or
not
an
HVAC
system
needs
to
be
replaced
and
they
make
it
on
this
list?
It's.
F
Really
aging
condition,
so
we
look
at
work
orders
that
we've
received
over
the
years
the
amount
of
money
that
we've
had
to
put
into
those
machines
to
get
them
up
and
running,
and
the
number
of
issues
that
we
receive
on
an
annualized
basis.
So
just
in
general,
we
receive
around
37
000
work
orders
through
my
office
on
an
annual
basis.
A
large
portion
of
those
are
HVAC
related
work,
orders
and
those
can
be
from
you
know:
preventive
maintenance,
work
orders
all
the
way
to
reactive
maintenance,
work,
orders.
J
A
J
Welcome
so
I
guess
my
concern
here
is:
do
some
of
our
buildings
don't
seem
to
be
holding
up
and
some
of
the
buildings
that
I've
personally
been
trying
to
work
with,
haven't
made
it
onto
this
list.
J
So,
like
I,
did
some
research
and
I
found
in
the
Maryland
code
of
regulations
14.39.07.07
that
we
are
required
to
keep
a
system
able
of
maintaining
a
temperature
between
68
and
75
degrees
and
I'm
concerned
that
some
of
the
the
buildings
that
seem
to
have
some
problems
aren't
on
this
list?
Are
we
able
to
keep
our
temperatures
at
68
and
75
degrees
and
the
other
school's
additional,
besides
the
ones
that
we're
focusing
on
at
this
time.
F
Our
building
set
points
are
slightly
different
than
those
listed
that
you
just
listed.
So
our
summer
set
point
is
78
degrees
in
some
buildings
and
it
goes
down
to
76
for
Early
Education.
Our
buildings
never
go
above
85
Degrees
unless
there's
a
system
malfunction
and
that's
when
we
start
looking
at
repairs.
B
Oh,
thank
you.
So
I
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
So,
with
regard
to
the
MGT
study
upcoming,
is
it
our
plan
to
include
middle
schools
in
that
study,
because
it's
my
understanding
they
were
not
previously
part
of
the.
F
Mgt,
study
or
MGT
is
a
vendor,
but
whatever
the
study
is
called
in
the
in
the
future,
it
will
look
at
our
whole
portfolio
of
all
130
buildings
that
we
occupy,
including
non-instructional
buildings.
B
Okay,
so,
and
on
I
think
what
Ms
Ellis
was
getting
at.
It
remains
perplexing
to
me
how
how
our
enrollment
is
sort
of
off
if
I'm,
following
with
regard
to
Middle
School
versus
High
School,
in
other
words
something's,
not
tracking
and
I'm,
just
trying
to
get
at
what
that
is,
I
mean.
Are
we
seeing
disproportionate
enrollment
at
the
middle
school
level
relative
to
high
schools,
because
you
know
intuitively
one
would
expect
one
to
follow
the
other
right.
B
You
you
build
a
new
high
school
that
suggests
that
you've
got
a
pipeline,
which
means
a
new
Middle,
School
and
so
I
don't
know
if
it
has
to
do
with
how
middle
schools
are
allocated
to
their
various
feeders.
If
that's
the
difference
but
I
I
guess
I'm
still
not
following
why
we
can
build
all
these
new
high
schools
and
not
have
to
build
new.
B
F
I
think
it's
a
combination
of
things
right.
Some
of
the
middle
schools
that
we
do
have
are
fairly
large
right.
If
you
look
at
individual
ones,
they
can
range
from
1200
all
the
way
up
to
1400
students,
and
you
think
about
Crofton
High
School
right.
It
had
four
grades
in
it
and
it
was
originally
open
for
1696.
200
difference
between
high
school
and
Elementary
School,
two
of
our
middle
schools
or
farmer,
high
schools,
Glendale
Brooklyn,
Park,
right
and
I.
F
B
That
helps
me
kind
of
understand
where
the,
where
the
the
connection
doesn't
quite
track.
All
right.
Thank
you
so
Ms
Ellis
did
you
have
additional
questions.
G
G
More
thank
you.
So
when
redistricting
is
done
after
phase
two,
presumably
we
will
have
well-balanced
schools
and
nobody
will
be
over
capacity.
So
does
that
mean
the
relocatable
classrooms
line?
Item
is
going
to
basically
disappear,
and
what
do
we
do
with
those?
Is
there
any
money
to
be.
F
A
lot
to
unpack
with
that
question,
so
I,
don't
think
the
relocatable
classroom
will
go
away.
We'll
always
want
to
maintain
a
fund
balance
to
anticipate
West,
County
Elementary
School
type
of
scenarios
right
where
we
have
16
Portables
at
an
elementary
school
population.
Booms
and
buses
can
happen,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
be
agile
enough
to
anticipate
those,
but
at
the
same
time
we're
we
have
no
plans
to
move
a
portable.
Even
if
the
school
is
under
capacity.
F
We
only
move
a
portable
if
there's
a
need
to
move
it
somewhere
else,
because
it
costs
around
250
000
to
move
one
of
those
single
unit.
Portables
right,
the
infrastructure
is
in
place.
It's
easily
left
there
until
it's
needed
somewhere
else
and
that's
kind
of
our
plan.
G
Okay,
the
you
mentioned
a
turf
field
costs
about
eight
hundred
thousand
I,
think
you
said
every
place
and
I'm
not
sure
who
the
right
person
is
to
ask
because
I,
don't
think
you'll
be
an
expert
on
the
health
and
safety
of
turf.
But
the
reason
we
have
these
turf
fields,
I
assume,
is
because
they're
easier
to
maintain.
Is
that
why
we
haven't
there's.
F
One
of
them
is
the
playability.
You
get
number
of
hours
that
you
can
get
out
of
a
turf
field
and
it
is
far
larger
than
a
natural
one.
Think
about
rain
events
and
other
issues
that
you
could
have.
You
can
easily
get
on
that
field.
A
lot
quicker,
Rex
and
Parks
uses
our
Fields
quite
a
bit,
and
that
partnership
has
really
helped
us
get
more
use
out
of
our
Fields.
F
There
are
there's
I'm
not
going
to
speak
in
depth
about
the
safety
component,
but
there
definitely
is
a
safety
component
to
using
these
fields.
It's
supposed
to
be
less
wear
and
tear
on
athletes,
but
there's
certain
studies
that
differ
on
that.
What.
F
It
really
depends
on
the
study
that
you're
looking
at
okay,
it's
still
up
for
debate,
but
the
the
rubber
surfaces
are
supposed
to
help
with
impact.
G
So
I
read
an
interesting
article
about
that
afterwards,
which
is
that
there's
concerns
about
turf
fields
and
that
apparently
several
of
our
stadiums
in
preparation
for
the
World
Cup
in
26
are
going
to
convert
to
Grass
because
they're
considered
safer
yeah.
So
I.
That's
why
I
asked
the
question
so
we're
spending
all
this
money
on
this
and
I'm
just
wondering
and
I'm
sure
it's
a
bigger,
larger
conversation
among.
F
Yeah,
it's
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
to
take
care
of
natural
Turf
to
the
level
that
needs
to
be
maintained
to
achieve
those
same
conditions.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
money,
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
G
Okay,
that's
okay
and
one
other
question
you
mentioned.
You
know
legislation
that
benefited
us
in
the
last
cycle.
What
do
you
need
us
to
seek
out
this
time
around
I.
F
I
think,
if
there's
any
additional
funding
sources
that
are
available
for
these
HVAC
systemic
and
capital
renewal
projects,
that's
really
the
money
that
we
need
to
seek
out.
My
team
does
a
great
job
looking
at
alternative
funding
and
revenue
sources
that
we
can
chase
down
to
get
that
funding,
but
any
additional
money
will
really
help
us.
Take
a
bite
out
of
that
16
or
600
million
dollar
backlog
that
we
see
over
the
next
10
years.
H
F
I
E
F
Hard
to
predict,
especially
the
economic
environment
that
we're
in
interest
rates
and
how
much
revenue
the
state
can
take
in,
but
you
can
see
that
prior
to
last
year,
right
last
year,
wasn't
an
anomaly.
If
you
look
at
22
23
21,
we're
all
below
that
trend
line
and
I.
Think
that's
probably
where
we're
likely
to
be.
E
Well,
2019
wasn't
so
good?
No,
it
wasn't.
No
that's
my
only
question
Dr
Heiser.
Would
you
rather
play
on
a
soccer
turf
field
or
or
grass.
D
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
quick-
and
you
might
not
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
when
we're
looking
at
our
vehicle
replacement-
and
we
we
have
about
a
500
000-
is
that
gone
down
from
previous
years
because
we
have
increased
the
age
of
our
Fleet
legislatively
or
is
that
about
the
same
as
it
has
been?
Do
you
have
an
answer
to
that
by
any
chance.
F
Let
me
look
at
the
prior
year:
I
think
we
did
bump
it
up
a
little
bit
from
the
prior
year
correct.
It
was
400
before
and
let's
see
vehicle
replacement,
so
we
requested
500.
Last
year
we
got
400
from
the
county,
okay,
but
it's
it's
fairly
steady
state,
okay,.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
no
additional
questions.
I
don't
does
anyone
else
have
any.
We
covered
everything:
okay,
Dr
Bill.
Any
last
comments
you
want
to
make.
C
Yeah
that
whole
deferred
maintenance
piece
over
the
next
few
years.
It
scares
me
a
little
bit,
but
we'll
figure
out
a
way
through
all
of
this
and
I
just
want
you
all
to
know.
Some
of
the
comments
made
up
here
today
definitely
resonate
with
myself.
I've
spoken
with
several
of
our
folks,
and
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
the
studies
and
making
sure
that
we're
doing
our
full
due
diligence
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
some
of
us
have
because
I
know
with
my
inexperience
in
this
area.
C
I
can
sit
here
and
say
this.
This
needs
to
be
done,
but
I
think
bringing
some
outside
lens
in
here
and
giving
us
some
data
will
allow
for
us
to
hopefully
address
some
of
these
concerns
that
that
were
brought
up
around
middle
school
and
things
of
that
nature.
All
right.