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All
right
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
board
of
education.
This
meeting
is
being
televised,
live
on
aacps
tv
and
live
streamed
on
the
internet.
General
information
and
protocols
for
the
meeting
are
posted
on
the
sign
by
the
doorway
as
you
entered
the
room.
So
please
make
sure
you
read
those
if
you
have
not
already
item
2.03
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
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Members
of
the
board
and
dr
alato,
as
you
know,
employee
and
student
wellness,
are
a
key
component
of
our
school
systems,
strategic
plan
as
part
of
that
effort
to
emphasize
wellness
and
to
help
others.
Schools
across
our
county
participate
in
american
heart
association
events
each
year.
We
are
very
proud
of
proud
of
this
partnership
and
of
the
many
ways
in
which
it
aids,
our
students,
our
staff
and
our
communities,
and
now
denise
will
tell
you
more
about
some
of
our
outstanding
schools
and
their
efforts.
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Students
at
these
schools
were
encouraged
to
be
physically
active,
make
smart
nutritional
choices
and
to
take
a
heart-healthy
pledge
which
asks
them
to
either
drink
more
water
instead
of
sugary
beverages
to
eat
a
fruit
or
vegetable
at
every
meal
and
to
take
part
in
an
additional
60
minutes
of
physical
activity
every
day.
So
without
further
ado,
recognizing
our
schools,
I'd
like
to
mention
bodkin
elementary
is
our
number
three
jump
rope
for
heart
school.
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It
was
led
by
principal
rachel,
amstutz
and
teacher
michelle
michelle
corey
98
students
took
the
heart
healthy
pledge
and
they
raised
seventeen
thousand
six
hundred
and
forty
two
dollars
in
life.
Saving
funding
our
number
two
jump.
Rope
for
heart
school
is
shadyside
elementary
led
by
principal
jeff,
casey
and
teacher
brittany
pastrana.
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More
than
110
students
took
the
heart
healthy
pledge
and
they
raised
eighteen
thousand
and
eighty
two
dollars
in
vital
donations
and
our
number
one
jump.
Rope
for
heart
school
in
anne
arundel
county
last
year
was
crofton
woods
elementary
led
by
principal
lynn,
beerus
and
teacher
karen
webster,
who
has
since
retired,
and
mr
ken
fowler.
More
than
175
students
took
a
pledge
to
be
heart
healthy,
along
with
that
they
raised
twenty
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty
six
dollars
in
life.
Saving
donations.
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I'd
also
like
to
mention
anne
arundel
county
is
the
number
five
school
district
in
the
state
of
maryland
for
raising
donations
for
the
american
heart
association.
The
district
raised
two
hundred
fifty
nine
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy
one
dollars.
Last
year
alone.
We
at
the
american
heart
association
could
not
do
what
we
do
every
day
without
your
support,
and
for
that
we
are
extremely
grateful.
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G
Thank
you,
mrs
hummer.
I
typically
do
not
join
in
on
this
part
of
the
evening.
This
is
part
of
the
evening
for
the
board
to
really
celebrate
the
time
they've
been
out
in
schools
and
out
in
the
community,
but
I
am
so
excited
about
an
event
that
occurred
last
night
that
I
just
can't
contain
myself,
so
we
have
to
deal
with
it.
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G
We,
our
students,
opened
the
cafe
at
maryland
hall
for
those
of
you
that
are
familiar
with
maryland
hall.
On
the
second
level,
the
main
level
there
is
cafe
space
that
was
built
many
years
ago
and
a
number
of
businesses
have
come
and
gone,
but
through
some
hard
work
and
dedication
and
vision
of
maureen,
mcmahon
and
many
of
her
staff.
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We
have
put
together
a
cafe
that
is
now
serving
it's
open
three
days
a
week,
tuesday,
wednesday
and
thursday
noon,
to
seven
and
6
30
and
saturdays
nine,
to
noon
and
they're
serving
a
variety
of
different
sandwiches
and
salads,
as
well
as
pastries
and
cakes
made
by
the
students
at
cat
south
in
the
culinary
program.
G
So
they
are
not
only
baking
and
cooking,
but
they
are
interning
and
running
the
business,
they're
learning
how
to
market
they're
learning
how
to
develop
the
appropriate
costs,
they're
running
the
cafe,
and
they
we
cut
the
ribbon
last
night
and
it's
fabulous
addition.
In
addition
to
that,
the
cafe
has
art
space
where
our
performing
and
visual
art
students
will
be
displaying
their
art
throughout
the
year
and
on
thursday
evenings
pretty
soon
we'll
be
starting
up.
G
Some
some
cafe
music,
where
our
pba
students
will
be
performing
in
the
cafe
on
thursday
evenings,
and
so,
if
you're
ever
in
and
around
and
you're
looking
in
near
mellon
hall
and
you're
looking
for
a
place
to
stop
in
stop
in
and
have
a
cup
of
coffee
or
a
danish
or
a
salad
or
sandwich
introduce
yourself
to
our
students
because
they
are
awesome.
And
so
I'm
sorry.
I
just
couldn't
contain
myself.
G
It
was
a
fabulous
night
and
it's
a
great
intersection
of
partnership
with
maryland
hall,
as
well
as
our
dedication
to
really
creating
opportunities
for
students.
We
as
a
staff
talk
a
lot
about
creating
opportunities,
and
this
is
yet
another
opportunity
outside
the
classroom
that
connects
them
to
the
real
world.
Learning
that's
happening
in
the
classroom
and
so
just
a
plug
for
the
great
kids
and
the
work
at
maryland
at
maryland
hall
and
stop
by
the
cafe
at
maryland
hall.
So
thank
you.
A
So
and
speaking
of
food
services,
so
last
week
I
had
the
opportunity
to
represent
anne
arundel
county
and
the
national
school
board
association
in
a
roundtable
meeting
with
secretary
of
agriculture,
sonny
perdue,
and
we
were
talking
about
the
school
nutrition
programs
and
various
things
that
we
had
representatives
from
all
over
the
country
there
who
were
sharing
things.
The
improvements
we'd
like
to
see
in
the
law
regarding
school
lunches
and
school
meals
and
some
things
that
can
help
us
to
better
serve
our
kids,
and
it
was
a
great
opportunity
also
just
to
hear
challenges.
A
Different
parts
of
the
country
have
we
shared
a
lot
of
them.
But
there
was
a
representative
from
south
dakota
who
talked
about
how
the
great
difficulty
they
had
serving
fresh
fruit
to
their
children
because
they
can't
get
it
by
the
time
they
get
it.
The
quality
is
very
poor
and
we're
so
we're
very
fortunate
over
here.
So
it's
interesting
to
hear
from
other
people
around
the
country,
but
also
to
speak
up
for
all
the
school
boards
around
and
talk
about
ways
that
we
could
better
meet
the
nutrition
needs
of
our
students.
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H
Since
reconvening.
We
have
began
the
process
of
revising
our
platform
and
drafting
our
new
constitution.
We
have
also
began
planning
several
general
assemblies.
Our
first
will
be
in
november,
focusing
on
connecting
military
dependent
families
to
their
communities.
We
are
collaborating
with
naval
support
annapolis
and
miss
chobani.
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The
2018-2019
year
has
officially
kicked
off
and
with
it
comes
the
all-too-exciting
back-to-school
nights.
Our
executive
team
members
have
attended
these
events
to
provide
information
about
crasc.
We're
excited
to
see
what
the
2018
2019
year
brings
for
our
awesome
aacps
students.
I
appreciate
the
time
to
give
you
a
quick
update
about
what's
happening
in
crass.
Thank
you.
I
I
Our
goal
currently
for
the
year
is
to
provide
as
much
training
to
all
the
local
units,
so
they
can
take
the
information
back
to
their
schools
and
roan
successful
pta
units
on
october
15th.
We're
very
excited
to
announce
that
we
have
an
opportunity
for
ptas
to
network
with
other
units.
We
will
also
have
a
q,
a
with
the
supervisor
for
school
security,
dr
I'm
sorry,
dilla,
batten
and
with
superintendent,
dr
alado.
I
So
thank
you
for
being
there
and
providing
parents
with
the
q
a,
and
this
will
give
parents
an
opportunity
to
have
a
one-on-one
with
members
of
the
anne
arundel
community
of
public
schools.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right
now,
we'll
move
on
to
public
comment.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda
may
offer
testimony
during
this
public
comment.
Portion
of
the
meeting
speakers
are
allotted
three
minutes
each
and
may
not
allocate
their
time
to
others.
A
tone
will
sound
when
time
has
expired.
The
board
asks
that
comments
remain
civil
and
appropriate
for
the
various
audiences
that
may
be
watching
or
viewing
this
meeting
student
specific
and
personnel
matters
are
confidential
and
cannot
be
discussed
in
this
forum.
A
D
K
Well,
in
keeping
with
the
light
mood
that
everyone
is
in
tonight,
I'm
going
to
keep
it
light.
I
want
to
announce
some
good
news.
K
Dr
howard
haft,
who
is
the
deputy
director
of
maryland
department
of
health,
has
credited
me
personally
with
changing
maryland
state
school
policy
with
regard
to
the
hpv
shot,
as
we
know
from
my
visits
to
the
board
before
the
state
department
of
health
has
issued
secret
letters
to
every
school
superintendent
in
the
state
pushing
the
shot,
and
the
good
news
is
that
if
you
compare
the
2018
letter
to
the
2017
letter,
there
are
a
lot
of
changes
and
the
changes
include
removing
the
word
critical
and
sentence
one.
K
We
no
longer
have
a
critical
crisis
of
under
vaccination
against
hpv
in
the
state
of
maryland,
that's
gone
and
it's
no
longer
imperative
for
kids
to
get
the
shot.
That's
gone
too,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
of
me.
I
read
the
package
insert
and
I
reported
to
the
board.
I
reported
to
the
state
board
and
that
stuff
is
gone.
K
This
is
the
annapolis
capital
from
about
three
weeks
ago
and
over
here
on
the
right
above
the
break.
On
the
opinion
section,
you
have
dr
howard
half
defending
the
program.
What
he
says
is
that
there
are
targets
for
sales
of
this
shot
in
the
state
of
maryland.
That's
a
very
curious
statement.
Dr
haft
defends,
taking
92
million
over
five
years
to
push
this
shot
in
our
states,
the
more
they
sell,
the
more
money
they
get.
He
does
not
mention
the
death
of
christina
tarsal
in
this
op-ed.
K
Let's
see
here
to
process
the
thus
the
claim
was
filed
in
the
vaccine
court
for
the
guard
assault-induced
death
of
my
beloved,
23-year-old
daughter,
christina
tarsul.
The
court
rigorously
assessed
whether
the
evidence
presented
satisfied
the
rules
of
law
in
the
vaccine
court.
The
evidence
included
testimony
reports
by
experts,
reams
of
studies
and
medical
records.
The
court
determined
that
we
had
met
a
burden
of
proof
according
to
the
law
and
she
was
entitled
to
compensation.
K
L
Good
evening,
melissa
ellis
of
millersville
maryland
on
april.
Actually,
let
me
start
with
this.
The
center
for
disease
control
has
indicated
no
safe
blood
level.
Lead
level
in
children
has
been
identified.
L
Additionally,
this
bill
would
require
the
involvement
of
state
agencies
and
matters
and
responsibilities
that
currently
fall
under
the
jurisdiction
of
local
school
systems.
The
anne
arundel
county,
public
schools,
division
of
facilities
is
responsible
for
the
construction,
maintenance
and
operation
of
all
public
facilities
in
a
safe
and
efficient
manner,
in
support
of
the
educational
goals
of
aacps
aacps
operates
public
school
facilities
in
a
manner
conducive
to
the
educational
process
by
ensuring
the
health,
safety,
comfort
and
welfare
of
the
occupants.
L
Local
school
systems
devote
substantial
staff
time
and
resources
to
provide
healthy
school
environments,
which
include
the
water
quality
and
addressing
any
issues
associated
with
water
quality.
After
this
letter
was
issued,
the
bill
passed
and
aecps
requested
and
received
an
extension
on
this
mandate.
M
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
I'm
dr
mary
jadoni,
I'm
with
the
anne
arundel
county
branch
of
the
naacp.
In
addition
to
being
secretary
of
our
branch,
I
am
co-chair
of
the
education
committee,
I'm
here
tonight
at
the
express
direction
of
our
president,
reverend
steve
tollett,
who
regrets
that
he
cannot
be
here
himself.
I,
too
wish
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
branch
of
the
naacp
about
the
lead
in
the
water
in
our
schools.
First,
let
me
frame
our
concerns.
M
Well,
we're
glad
that
the
acps
has
sent
out
a
letter
to
families
of
children
who
attend
schools
where
their
water
has
not
yet
been
tested
for
lead,
letting
them
know
that
students
may
bring
water
bottles
from
home.
We
do
raise
the
question
we
have
no
idea
of
whether
or
not
the
water
from
home
is
any
better
than
the
leaded
water
from
the
drinking
fountains.
We
don't
regard
this
as
a
complete
solution,
we're
not
even
sure
that
it
improves
the
situation.
M
M
M
It
is
safe
to
assume,
given
that
we
already
have
positive
results
that
once
tested
more
many
more
of
the
water
outlets
in
the
schools
that
have
not
been
tested
are
going
to
come
back
as
positive.
In
short,
children
are
now
being
exposed
to
lead
as
our
teachers
and
staff.
Now
I
want
to
raise
some
questions
beyond
allowing
water
kid,
the
children
to
bring
water
bottles
to
school,
what
is
anne,
arundel
county
public
school,
doing
to
protect
teachers
and
students
from
exposure
to
lead?
M
I
know
from
personal
conversation
that
teachers
are
bringing
water
at
their
own
expense
and
giving
it
to
children
how
many
students
and
teachers
are
drinking
from
water
outlets
that
haven't
been
tested,
but
that
could
test
positive
with
the
transparency
of
the
data.
We
can
keep
track
of
that
probability,
but
we'd
have
to
build
in
assumptions
that
there
was
an
equal
probability
of
lead
in
the
water
at
all
the
schools
and
that's
not
true.
The
older
schools
are
more
dangerous
and
is
the
water
that
cafeteria
staff
are
using
for
cooking
safe.
M
Therefore,
let
me
state
the
position
of
the
anne
arundel
county
branch
of
the
naacp.
With
respect
to
actions,
we
would
like
to
see
this
body
to
take.
We
believe
the
safest
thing
to
do
would
be
to
assume
that
outlets
contain
lead
until
proven.
Otherwise,
we
believe
systems
need
to
be
in
place
now
to
make
sure
that
all
students
and
staff
and
teachers
have
safe
water
to
drink
at
school
and
the
school
lunches
are
made
with
safe
water.
M
To
do
this,
we
may
all
need
to
come
up
with
creative,
dynamic
solutions,
working
together
with
other
entities
and
each
other.
We
also
want
to
see
the
testing
timeline
accelerated,
especially
in
the
oldest
schools
and
schools
that
serve
the
youngest
students.
Those
will
have
the
longest
exposure
in
the
future
until
we
correct
the
problem,
those
who
are
most
vulnerable.
There
has
to
be
some
way
to
get
things
done
faster,
for
example,
hiring
more
water
testing
companies
is
one
example.
M
N
N
I
wasn't
planning
on
speaking
about
this
tonight,
but
I
really
feel
compelled
after
our
pta
meeting
last
night,
we
had
a
completely
full
media
center
of
parents
and
a
gym
full
of
students,
and
our
parents
are
very
concerned
about
the
lead
and
I'm
also
hearing
appreciation
about
transparency
of
data
about
the
letter.
Informing
parents
and
I've
also
heard
that
there
are
efforts
to
try
to
speed
up
the
process.
But
what
I'm
concerned
about
is
in
the
interim
we
are
concerned.
We
already
know
that
there
are
students
drinking
the
water
at
our
school.
N
And
so
what?
If
that
water
fountain
one
of
those
water
fountains,
is
in
the
seven
percent
of
water
outlets
that
has
tested
positive
or
elevated
lead
levels.
Basically,
our
the
purpose
of
the
pta
is
to
advocate
for
all
children,
and
so
at
hillsmere.
We
are
trying
to
advocate
for
the
kids
at
our
school
as
well
as
fundraise,
to
get
clean
water,
and
so
we
are
budgeting
and
trying
to
find
clean
water
for
our
school.
N
But
we
know
we're
a
very
privileged
pta
and
so
we're
concerned
not
only
about
our
students
who
don't
have
access
to
bpa
free
water
bottles
and
we're
trying
to
find
donors,
but
is
that
the
role
is
that
what
we
should
be
having
to
do?
And
what
about
the
schools
that
don't
have
a
pta
that
is
able
to
raise
the
funds
that
we
are
able
to
raise?
N
O
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
roberto,
garza
and
three
children,
two
of
which
attend
hillsborough
elementary,
I'm
also
a
proud
graduate
of
the
international
parent
and
community
leadership
academy.
Thank
you
so
much
for
supporting
that.
I
learned
a
lot
and
especially
speaking
with
dr
lotto,
one
of
the
things
and
I'm
here
to
speak
about
the
lead
issue.
One
of
the
things
as
I
was
thinking
of
my
comments,
is
one
of
the
things
I
learned
from
ipcla
was
how
the
county
and
your
staff
and
the
schools
you
have
experts
right.
P
You
have
experts
that
come
together
to
provide
excellent
education
to
children
and
resolve
issues
with
families
and
being
that
I
work
in
public
health.
I
beat
not
in
lead,
that's
it's
a
rich
environment,
a
rich
target
environment
for
us
and
to
come
together
and
think
so
I
guess,
and
what
I'm
saying
is.
P
I
would
love
to
learn
more
about
how
the
county
and
the
you
as
the
board
of
education
are
coming
together
and
thinking
outside
of
your
your
your
current
sort
of
stakeholders,
because,
obviously,
as
you
think
about
lead
and
the
process
that
you're
engaged
in
to
resolve
this
mandate,
you
can
easily
think
of
other
stakeholders,
such
as
the
public
health
officials,
at
the
county
and
and
and
higher
levels.
I
can
think
of.
This
is
obviously
a
complex
process.
P
So
perhaps
you
know
process
management
could
be
interesting,
so
it
would
be
great
to
know
more
about
how,
as
you
given
the
urgency
that
we're
all
you
know
collectively
take
this
issue.
P
I
hope
that
you
are
continuously
reassessing
your
processes
so
that
you
can
find
efficiencies
to
accelerate
right
to
accelerate
the
the
plan
to
complete
the
testing
and
then
address
the
issues
that
you
find.
So
how
are
you
involving
other
individuals
to
critically
assess
the
plot
process
so
that
you
know
through
the
six
sigma
approaches?
Perhaps
you
know
business
level
approaches
you
can
identify
efficiencies,
reconsider
what
you're
doing
and
find
solutions
and
accelerate.
So
love
to
learn
more
about
that
and
challenge.
P
Secondly,
public
health
education
is
a
subfield
of
public
health
and
it's
certainly
a
rich
field
that
includes
behavioral
health.
You
know
it
takes
into
account
literacy
levels
to
in
every.
The
idea
is
to
identify
and
understand
your
community
so
that
you
can
educate
them,
so
they
can
make
better
healthier
choices
right.
So
I
commend
dr
alato
for
the
great
information
that
he
provided
to.
Families
in
this
open
and
transparent
information
is
fantastic.
P
I
also
see
the
opportunity
here
to
bring
in
the
public
health
folks
so
that
you
can
provide
health
education,
information
to
families
on
healthy
water.
What
are
the
how
to
identify
the
effects,
the
importance
of
getting
more
blood
screening
so
that
you
can
identify
the
children
that
perhaps
have
been
affected,
getting
the
help
they
need
and
help
families
to
continue
to
make
healthy
choices.
Thank
you
so
much.
Q
Hi
there
good
evening,
dana
scholheim,
I'm
a
parent
of
a
second
grader.
She
goes
to
folger
and
I'm
also
speaking
tonight
regarding
the
lead
water
situation.
Specifically,
I'm
concerned
about
the
five
schools
tested
last
spring,
whose
test
results
are
still
pending.
It's
an
awful
long
time
to
wait
for
for
results.
Q
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can't
encourage
the
lab
to
move
a
little
quicker
in
processing
those
results
now
we're
months
and
months
and
months
since
they
were
taken-
and
I
I
don't
believe
the
turnaround
time
is
that
long,
based
on
my
conversation
with
martel
directly
and
trying
to
understand
their
turnaround
time.
Q
I
also
noticed
that
only
five
schools
in
region,
four,
which
is
the
first
region,
have
been
tested
so
far,
were
in
week
four
of
school,
and
at
that
rate,
are
we
are
we
going
to
hit
the
deadline
by
the
end
of
the
year?
I'm
wondering,
and
I'm
also
wondering
if
we
can
move
that
along
quicker.
I
am
it's
my
understanding
that
there
is
a
water
testing
lab
in
anne
arundel
county.
Q
I'm
not
sure
why
that
wasn't
tapped
to
do
this
work
in
addition
to
martel
and
tasm,
and
perhaps
utilizing
them
would
help,
and
also
just
as
a
parent,
I'm
not
letting
my
my
daughter
drink
the
water
from
the
school
until
it's
proven
safe,
I'm
also
encouraging
other
parents
at
the
school
to
do
the
same.
I
know
that
folger
was
recently
renowed,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
it
wasn't
totally
re-plumbed
and
when
that,
when
that
happens,
there's
still
a
risk
and
I'm
not
going
to
play
roulette
with
my
child.
Q
Nor
would
I
recommend
any
other
parent
do
the
same.
It
would
be
great.
I
love
the
the
website.
I
like
the
regions.
I
like
you,
know
the
web.
It
provides
a
lot
of
really
great
information.
I
appreciated
the
letter,
but
I'm
to
piggyback
on
on
the
others
who
spoke
tonight.
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
provide
safe
water
for
all
the
students
in
the
schools
that
have
not
yet
been
tested.
Q
Why
would
you
want
to
risk
opening
yourself
up
to
litigation
or
or
endangering
children
if
they
happen
to
be
especially
fond
of
a
water
fixture
that
happens
to
tesla
positive
fertilized
later
so
just
some
thoughts.
R
Thank
you,
madam
president,
so
dr
alato
to
to
date
has
water
testing
shown
that
we
have
any
entire
water
systems
in
a
school
building
that
are
tainted
with
lead.
K
G
Correct
so
we
have
someone
early
in
their
testimony,
and
I've
heard
this
before
that.
It's
being
reported
that
seven
percent
of
the
outlets
are
testing
high
for
lead
the
data
and
it's
and
it's
clearly
on
our
website-
is
that
just
slightly
over
one
point,
I
think
it's
1.05
percent
have
shown
high
levels
of
lead.
So
it's
a
very,
very
small
percentage
of
the
of
the
consumable
water
outlets
are
showing
high
higher
than
expected
or
higher
than
should
be
over
20
parts
per
billion,
as
dictated
by
law.
G
So
there
is
still
a
cons.
We
have
a
concern
as
a
school
system
is
too
much
right
absolutely
and
we
totally
agree,
but
it
is
not
showing
that
it's
to
answer
your
question
in
a
few
more
words
than
you
probably
wanted.
It's
not
showing
any
widespread.
G
It
is
single
outlets
or
or
faucets
at
sinks,
in
particular
areas
around
buildings.
G
If,
if
it
were
the
pipes-
and
I
am
not
an
expert-
and
so
I
say
that
very
very
clearly-
but
as
I've
tried
to
get
up
to
speed
with
with
these
issues-
we're
not
seeing
it
in,
for
instance,
down
an
entire
corridor
of
a
school
building
or
a
wing
of
a
school
building,
because
if
all
of
those
outlets
were
coming
up
high
for
lead,
that
would
probably
say
it's
somewhere
in
the
pipes
in
the
ground
or
in
the
walls
or
floors.
G
G
We
just
got
the
results
back
and
posted,
for
instance,
I
believe
at
lindale
and
brooklyn
park
middle
and
those
are
fairly
big
and
older
buildings
and
they
came
up
with
zero
as
an
example
that
doesn't
make
anybody
feel
better
when
a
building
does
have
one
or
two
or
three
outlets
that
might
be,
but
those
have
been
turned
off,
and
so
we
are,
we
are
concerned
as
well.
We
are
certainly
in
a
fight.
While
I'm
sorry
you
may
have
other
questions.
I've
got
some
other
comments.
Yes,
sir,
I'm.
G
We
have
so
I
I
have
spoken
to
one
superintendent
and
then
our
ceo,
mr
sheknovich,
have
talked
to
his
counterparts
and
some
other
school
systems
to
see
how
they've
gotten,
through
the
process
in
particular,
I
know
he's
talked
to
both
prince
george's,
county
and
montgomery
county.
Can
we
learn
from
bigger
systems
that
have
gotten
through
this
process,
and
so
we've
learned
some
things
in
the
case
of
a
montgomery
county,
for
instance,
they
started
the
process
earlier
than
we
did.
G
They
were
more
comfortable
in
starting
than
we
were
before.
The
regulations
came
out.
Remember
that
this
legislation
was
passed
in
april.
It
was,
we
became
law
in
april
of
2017..
The
regulations
did
not
come
out
on
that
tells
us
how
to
do.
The
work
did
not
come
out
for
a
year
later.
We
started
just
at
the
end
of
march,
because
we
had
somebody
in
the
community.
We
believed
we
knew
what
the
regulations
were.
G
We
want
to
have
to
go
back
and
repeat,
and
so
we're
we,
we
believed
at
the
time
we
knew
enough,
and
so
we
started
in
march,
but
a
place
like
montgomery
county
twice
our
size,
206
schools.
If
we're
not
mistaken,
they
were
able,
they
got
started
earlier
and
they
were
able
to
complete
their
schools.
I.
G
I
didn't
talk
directly
with
prince
george's
county,
so
I
don't
have
that.
I
don't
have
the
data
on
them,
but
I
know
that
they
went
through
the
process
and
were
able
to
complete.
I
believe
they
published
results,
but
I
had
did
not
speak
directly
with
their
superintendent,
but
I
did
speak
with
the
superintendent
in
montgomery
county.
A
So
we
are
testing
every
outlet,
not
just
the
consumable
outlets,
whereas
other
districts
are
just
testing
their
consumable
outlets.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
G
We
began
the
process
because
we
didn't
know
the
what
the
regulations
were
going
to
state.
We
went
ahead
to
try
and
get
ahead
of
the
game
to
test
all
of
the
outlets,
so
that
could
be
not
only
a
drinking
fountain
and
a
sink
in
the
kitchen,
but
also
a
hose
bib
in
the
back
of
the
building,
for
instance,
and
so
we've
been
testing
all
of
those.
G
Now
that
we
have
the
regulations
in
hand
and
through
this
process,
starting
with
this
september,
we
are
going
to
go
to
just
the
consumable
outlets
so
that
we
can
get
through
the
buildings
quicker
and
we
can
try
and
speed
up
the
process.
So
we're
going
to
go
to
the
consumable
outlets
and
not
worry
about
those
say
exterior
hose
bibs.
G
Yes
ma'am,
so
we've
talked
to
our
lab
that
we've
hired.
Let
me
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
really
clearly,
if
my
research
is
is
accurate
and
somebody
might
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
there
are
four
labs
in
the
state
of
maryland
that
are
certified
to
do
this
work.
G
I
pause
for
you
the
board
to
understand
that
four
labs
have
been
certified
to
do
this
work
for
this
legislation,
which
means
they
are
all
the
labs
right
now
are
overwhelmed,
because
all
the
school
systems
are
trying
to
get
through
this
process
of
not
only
testing
but
now
those
say
like
a
montgomery
county
that
has
shut
off
a
water
fountain
and
replaced
it.
They
can't
turn
it
back
on
until
it
gets
retested
and
they
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
that,
because
the
labs
are
all
doing
this
work.
G
They
are
our
conversations
with
our
lab
mart.
It's
been
mentioned,
martel
lab
they've
been
they've,
been
trying
to
work
with
us.
We've
asked
them
if
they
can
speed
up
the
process,
it's
limited
by
the
number
of
technicians.
They
have
to
collect
the
water
samples.
They
have
to
be
trained
to
collect
water
samples
because
there
has
to
be
a
chain
of
custody.
A
well
spelled
out
documented
chain
of
custody
of
the
water
samples
and
then
once
the
water
samples
are
taken,
then
they
need
to
have
the
right
lab
techs
to
conduct
those
tests.
G
It
was
mentioned
earlier
testimony
that
we
have
some
schools
that
were
tested
in
april
may.
We
don't
have
the
results
back
and
the
answer
is
that's
correct.
Those
results
are
at
martell
and
they're
going
to
get
to
them
as
soon
as
they
can
get
to
them.
We
have
asked
them
to.
They
could
speed
up
the
process.
They've
told
us,
they
were
they're
in
the
process
of
hiring
and
training,
more
lab
technicians,
more
collection
technicians.
G
A
This
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
superintendent's
recommended
fiscal
year,
2020,
cip
and
capital
budget.
Those
individuals
wishing
to
testify
have
signed
the
sheet
that
I
have
before
me,
as
the
board
wants
to
hear
from
everyone
who
has
taken
the
time
to
be
here
tonight.
Three
minutes
will
be
allotted
to
each
speaker.
If
you
are
here
with
a
group
wanting
to
speak
on
the
same
subject,
I
ask
that
you
appoint
a
spokesperson
to
deliver
testimony.
A
Other
members
of
the
group
are
welcome
to
stand
while
testimony
is
given
the
light
in
front
of
me.
Will
flash
yellow
when
you
have
30
seconds
remaining
and
a
tone
will
be
heard
when
your
time
is
up
for
the
record,
please
give
your
name
the
spelling
of
your
name,
and
the
group
you
represent
copies
of
comments
are
welcome
and
may
be
given
to
the
board
assistant.
I
will
call
individuals
in
groups
of
five.
A
Please
come
up
front
and
have
a
witness
and
have
a
seat
at
the
witness
tables
you
may
speak
from
the
podium
or
from
the
tables
wherever
you
are
more
comfortable.
This
hearing
is
designed
so
that
the
board
can
obtain
public
input
on
the
budget
recommendation
as
opposed
to
a
back
and
forth
discussion
board.
A
S
Good
evening
dr
arlatto,
president
hummer
and
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
kristen
etzel
e-t-z-e-l.
I
live
in
the
old
mill
neighborhood
and
I'm
the
organizer
of
the
fund
old
middle
school
construction
group.
To
start,
I
would
like
to
thank
dr
arlatto
for
including
the
initial
phase
of
design
funding
for
three
of
the
schools
in
the
old
mill
complex
master
plan
in
its
proposed
fiscal
year,
2020
budget.
S
This
includes
quarterfield
elementary
rippling
woods
elementary
and
the
new
old
mill
west
high
school.
Thank
you.
I'm
probably
a
familiar
face
to
many
members
of
the
board,
based
on
my
previous
appearances.
However,
since
we
have
some
new
members
of
the
board
I'll
give
a
quick
background.
I've
been
advocating
for
funding
for
the
old
mill
schools
for
two
years,
which
began
after
spending
time
in
the
open
classroom,
setting
of
rippling
woods
and
learning
that
old
mill
high
school
also
has
walls
that
do
not
go
to
the
ceiling.
S
I'm
pleased
with
the
positive
feedback
I've
received,
old
middle
schools
were
considered
in
the
top
priority
category
in
the
independent
2006
mgt
study,
but
every
year
we've
seen
our
funding
slated
for
the
coming
years
in
the
budget
projection,
but
each
year
we've
been
pushed
off
again,
not
this
year.
It's
a
an
exciting
first
step
for
us
to
see
funding
in
the
superintendent's
proposed
budget
for
this
current
fiscal
year.
It's
old
mill's
turn.
S
F
Hello,
dr
arlatto
president
hummer
and
members
of
the
board.
My
name
is
julie,
stetter
and
my
children
attend
ripling
woods
elementary
school.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
purposeful
or
not,
but
we
appreciate
the
blue
that
you're
wearing
tonight.
Thank
you.
I
also
have
previously
attended
board
meetings.
I've
spoken
to
the
county
council
about
safety
concerns
at
rippling
woods
recently.
My
kids
came
home
from
religion
class
and
told
me
how
their
friends
who
attend
richard
henry
lee
are
in
a
different
school
because
of
school
construction.
F
My
son
asked:
when
will
it
be
our
turn
for
a
new
school?
When
I
saw
the
proposed
2020
budget,
I
was
psyched
to
tell
him
it's.
Finally,
our
turn,
so
I'm
here
to
say
thank
you
for
including
an
initial
phase
of
design
funds
for
some
of
the
old
middle
schools.
Thank
you
for
my
children.
Thank
you
for
me
from
my
neighbors
and
from
future
old
mill
students
who
will
benefit
from
new
and
safe
schools.
Thank
you.
A
U
R
Thank
you,
madam
president,
with
regards
to
the
salt
contract,
was
this
pricing
taking
into
consideration
any
leftover
salt
that
we
have
in
our
stocks.
V
This
is
the
anticipated
additional
purchasing
requirement
if
we
have
a
typical
snow
year,
so
we
do
not
go
out
and
automatically
buy
150
000
worth
of
salt,
so
we've
got
stocks
or
piles
that
we
eat
off
of
we
utilize
those,
and
then
we
re-rotate
old
product
out
and
bring
new
product
in
on
a
nasty
basis
on
a
first
term
basis-
and
you
know,
the
utilization
rate
is
directly
linked
to
either
quality
or
the
quantity
or
duration
of
the
storm,
so
we're
pretty
adept
at
monitoring.
V
How
quickly
we're
going
through
the
inventory
that
we
have.
We
also
have
a
partnership
with
the
county
that
we
share
with
the
county,
either
aerosol
products
with
them
or
their
salt
products
with
us
for
spot
shortages
in
different
parts
of
the
county
to
tide,
either
them
and
or
us
over,
while
we're
awaiting
new
product
deliveries.
So
we've
got
a
pretty
robust
snow
removal
and
assault
replenishment
process
that
we've
worked
out
over
the
years.
A
T
A
A
W
The
fiscal
authorities
for
anne
arundel
county
did
not
provide
sufficient
funds
in
the
fy
2019
budget
to
fully
fund
the
negotiated
agreement
between
the
board
of
education
and
the
teachers
association
of
anne
arundel
county.
Accordingly,
pursuant
to
provisions
of
the
education
article
and
the
tax
negotiated
agreement,
the
parties
entered
into
renegotiations
and
successfully
reached
a
tentative
agreement.
Subject
to
your
approval
this
evening.
W
The
negotiating
teams
diligently
work
to
reach
an
agreement
that
best
serve
the
interest
of
all
tac
members
and
recognizes
their
commitment
to
another
county
public
school
students,
staff
and
community.
I
would
like
to
thank
executive
director,
william
jones,
former
president,
richard
benfer
and
tac,
the
negotiating
team
for
their
ongoing
partnership
with
the
board
during
the
fy
19
negotiations
period
on
september,
12
2018
tack
approved
this
agreement
and
I
respectfully
request
your
approval
and
ratification
of
the
noted
summary
of
changes.
Thank
you,
mr
jones.
X
Good
evening,
I'm
bill
jones,
I'm
the
executive
director
and
the
chief
negotiator
for
the
teachers,
association
of
anne
arundel
county,
like
my
friend,
miss
rawls,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
the
effort
and
the
persistence
of
miss
rawls
and
the
board's
team,
but
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
members
of
the
tact
team.
This
is
the
second
time
that
this
agreement,
or
portions
of
it,
have
been
in
front
of
you.
X
You
voted
for
it
in
june
and
then
had
to
break
it
because
of
the
lack
of
funding,
and
I
I
know
it's
got
to
be
a
little
frustrating
for
you
and
I
know
it
is
for
attack
and
its
team.
We
go
through
the
same
exercise
way
too
often
negotiating
a
contract
in
good
faith
and
find
out
when
it
gets
to
calvert
street
resources
to
fund
it
get
axed.
X
Y
For
the
benefits
of
our
employees
approximately,
when
would
they
see
their
retroactive?
Two
percent
2.1.
W
It
depends
on
when
your
mid,
the
mid-year
point
of
your
employment
occurs
for
10-month
employees
that
will
occur
in
february
in
the
beginning
of
february
and
for
12-month
employees
that
will
be
in
january.
Thank
you.
R
W
P
A
V
V
We're
here
to
present
item
6.03,
which
is
an
action
item
this
evening,
to
adopt
the
fiscal
year
2020
capital
budget,
as
well
as
the
six
year
plan
and
a
state
capital
proven
plan.
As
the
board
recalls,
the
state
funding
cycle
is
out
of
sync
with
the
county
funding
cycle.
In
fact,
we
are
required
no
later
than
october,
4th
of
this
year
to
remit
our
request
to
the
state
so
that
they
can
begin
their
budgetary
analysis
and
deliberations,
and
that
is
why
this
budget
is
before
you
tonight.
V
It
was
first
presented
to
this
board
on
the
12th
of
september
and
on
the
evening
of
the
13th
we
had
an
extensive
workshop.
We
certainly
had
opportunities
to
answer
questions
that
we've
heard
public
additional
public
testimony
this
evening.
The
budget
that's
before
you
has
not
changed
we're
asking
for
the
projects
in
the
same
order,
as
was
reviewed
with
you
the
evening
of
the
workshop
and
the
same
essential
amounts
from
both
the
county
agency
and
a
state
agency.
With
that,
we'll
rest,
our
presentation
and
entertain
any
questions
the
board
might
have.
AA
Thank
you,
madam
president,
and
thank
all
of
you
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
you
and
dr
arlotto,
for
what
I
thought
was
a
very
helpful
workshop
a
few
weeks
back.
So
I
appreciate
your
support
answering
a
lot
of
those
questions
since
then.
You
know
I've
had
time
to
digest
the
numbers
and-
and
certainly
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this
tonight,
but
I
wanted
to
ask
if,
if
I
may,
just
on
line
items,
one
and
two
first
health
and
safety
in
fy
19,
the
the
request
was
750
million.
D
AA
Long
day,
750
000.,
so
sorry,
people
jumped
at
me
for
a
second
750
000.
We've
doubled
that,
at
least
in
this
request
is
some
of
that
money
to
account
for
the
need
to
pay
for
some
of
the
water,
faucets,
etc.
To
that
may
be
needing
replacement
due
to
the
testing
results.
AA
And
then
for
line
item
two
security
related
upgrades.
Last
year
there
was
a
one
million
dollar
funding
line,
or
I
should
say
the
current
fiscal
year
was
a
one
million
dollar
funding
line
and
then
total
we're.
Looking
at
7.45
million
950
000
dollar
request
from
the
state
and
then
6.5
million
from
the
county.
Can
you
explain
the
rationale
behind
both
of
those
numbers,
the
county,
as
well
as
the
state.
V
Sure
so
originally
we
asked
for
one
and
a
half
million.
We've
traditionally
asked
for
one
and
a
half
million
in
the
initial
budget.
It
was
adopted
by
the
county
council
in
the
current
year.
The
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
security
was
modestly
modestly
reduced
to
one
million
temporarily,
and
then
the
council,
as
you
recall
over
the
summer,
took
supplementary
budgetary
action
to
transfer
five
million
additional
dollars
to
the
board
of
education.
V
So
cumulatively
in
the
fy
19
year,
the
year
we
sit
here
today,
there
is
a
total
value
of
six
million
dollars
in
security
in
the
year
ahead.
The
request
it's
before
you.
It's
really
contained
of
three
separate
components.
Mr
galilean,
there
is
the
original
one
and
a
half
million
dollar
request,
which
is
basically
our
standing
request
for,
like
revolving
security
funds
to
cyclically
replace
equipment.
V
V
We
build
upon
that
by
taking
up
the
second
half
of
the
supplemental
insurance
money
to
county
executive
shoe
announced
over
annapolis
high
school
in
the
presence
of
of
many
of
you
and
your
colleagues
here
on
the
board
this
evening.
So
there's
5
million.
V
That's
the
second
component
of
the
two-year
five
million
five
million
announcement
that
the
county
executive
made
and
then
finally,
the
state
of
maryland
through
legislation
that
was
adopted
and
completed
this
past
april,
signaled
that
there's
basically
going
to
be
two
years
of
security
related
funding
from
the
state
it's
going
to
be
handled
as
a
grant
they've
telegraphed
to
us.
V
What
essentially
is
the
maximum
amount
of
the
award
to
the
county,
and
so
we've
added
a
950
000
line
item
in
the
request
that
we
have
before
the
board
for
fy
2020,
and
then
we
also
have
embedded
in
the
fy
21
and
although
you're
voting
on
the
20
budget,
we
have
the
second
half
of
the
950
000,
also
embedded
in
the
2021
budget.
V
So
when
the
second
half
of
the
grant
comes
through
we'll
have
sufficient
appropriation
authority
to
spend
it,
we
also
ensured
that
we
had
thoroughly
analyzed
the
grants
and
have
met
all
of
the
matching
funding
requirements.
There
will
be
no
issue
in
terms
of
us
being
eligible
for
the
awards
once
the
state
makes
its
way
through
that
through
their
process
on
their
end,.
AA
Thank
you
for
that,
and
I
just
want
to
be
clear
because
I
think
many
of
us
were
concerned
that
we
weren't
asking
for
enough
when
it
came
to
security,
school
security
matters
and-
and
I
know
the
public
has
been
asking
for
financial
support
there
as
well.
But
with
regard
to
the
950
000.
We
are
indeed
asking
for
the
maximum
amount
that
we're
allotted
per
the
state.
Grant.
R
So,
looking
at
the
six
year
plan,
it
really
is
an
exciting
part,
exciting
time
to
be
part
of
anne
arundel
county
public
schools,
we're
looking
at
numerous
new
high
schools
on
new
elementary
school
looking
at
2022
to
get
that
started
for
mountain
road,
I'm.
My
question
deals
with
our
anticipated
populations.
By
the
time
these
projects
are
done,
so
we
have
crofton
high.
We
have
old
mill
and
then
old
mill
west
by
the
time
those
projects
are
completed.
R
Do
we
anticipate
that
we
will
be
meeting
the
the
number
of
seats
that
are
required
for
our
high
school
students.
V
V
If
you
want
to
be
exact,
the
two
old
middle
schools
together
will
have
a
total
of
3
400
seats.
Today,
there's
only
2300,
so
there's
a
900
seat
increase
their
spread
amongst
those
two
schools,
and
then
the
anticipated
west
county
high
school
will
have
a
total
gain
of
1700
seats
as
well
being
ground
up
construction.
V
You
put
those
you
know,
numbers
together
and
and
just
in
those
three
projects.
There's
four
projects
alone,
including
the
two
old
mills
crofton
and
the
new
west
county
high
school,
were,
were
pushing
five
thousand
plus
news
seats
that
we're
bringing
online
across
that
time
so
and
then
yet,
there's
more
high
school
work
to
come
after
that,
so
yeah
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
the
ball
to
try
to
put
as
much
capacity
online
as
possible.
V
Mr
reinhardt,
I
would
I
would
caveat
that,
though,
by
saying
pending
availability
of
funds,
because
our
plan
is
completely
dependent
upon
the
sufficiency
of
amount
and
sufficiency
of
pace
of
funding
at
both
the
state
and
county
level
to
keep
those
projects
on
our
plan.
R
So
those
five
five
thousand
seats,
I'm
looking
the
west
county,
wouldn't
start
proposed
design
until
2025.
So
let's
say
20
28
29
to
be
generous.
Do
we
anticipate
enroll?
Are
the
enrollment
projections
greater
than
5000
seats
by
that
year?.
V
Well,
there's
also
going
to
be
opportunities
to
do
redistricting
too,
so
you
know
we
have
other
seats
in
the
county,
so
it's
going
to
be
not
just
not
just
straight
ground
of
construction,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
series
of
construction
and
redistricting
and
construction
and
tradition
redistricting
to
take
advantage
of
the
new
opportunities
that
the
new
seats
will
afford.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-faceted
sort
of
project
to
make
sure
we
keep
on
top
of
the
growth.
A
V
The
only
two
schools
that
are
not
interlinked
per
se
are
the
two
elementary
schools
that
being
quarterfield
and
rippling
woods
and
what
we
are
seeking
to
do
is
essentially
to
front
load
those
two
elementary
schools,
obviously
they're
needed
they're,
open
space,
they're
antiquated
front
load,
the
two
elementary
schools
and
get
them
out
of
the
way,
while
we're
finishing
the
permitting
and
design
and
getting
the
first
of
the
old
middle
schools
completed,
and
then
that
will
allow
us
to
focus
on
the
secondary
schools
and
cat
north.
A
V
Two
old
mill
we
anticipate.
So
let
me
back
up
by
saying
we're-
probably
not
probably
un,
certainly
the
leaders
in
the
state
in
the
use
of
prototype
designs.
We
are
by
far
in
terms
of
the
use
and
the
precedent,
setting
nature
of
this
county
with
the
highest
percentage
and
have
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
We
fully
intend
on
constructing
both
high
schools,
old
middle
west
and
east,
as
prototypes
and
both
middle
schools,
old
mill,
middle
north
and
south,
as
prototypes
and
the
two
elementary
schools
again.
V
Should
a
feasibility
study
depict
them
as
being
new
schools
and
again
considering
the
flight
path
and
some
other
considerations,
that's
highly
likely.
Both
elementary
schools
will
be
prototypes.
So
the
only
project
out
of
the
old
mill
study
that
will
not
be
a
prototype
will
be
our
cat
north
facility.
V
However,
we
have
already
had
extensive
conversations
with
montgomery
county.
They
just
they
constructed
the
most
recent
ground
up
very
very
nice,
and
some
staff
have
already
toured
and
we
intend
to
learn
a
lot
from
their
new
facility
that
they
just
put
up
and
dorchester
county,
put
up
a
technology
center
about
three
or
four
years
ago,
so
we're
gonna,
we
haven't
put
a
technology
center
here
in
quite
a
long
time.
I
think
cat
north
was
mid
1975.
V
I
think
something
of
that
nature.
So
we
have
a
lot
to
learn,
we're
very
good
at
the
elementary
schools
we've.
Obviously
you
know
done
middle
schools,
but
I
think
we
have
a
little
bit
of
the
benefit
of
cat
north
being
a
little
bit
later
in
the
sequencing.
So
we
can
get
up
to
speed
and
do
our
homework
on
what
the
state
of
the
art
of
cap
programs
are
across.
The
state
of
maryland.
V
V
We
have
less
chance
of
having
errors
and
emissions
it
gets
through
permitting
quicker
because
the
second
time,
the
second
prototype
that
goes
through
to
reviewing
authorities,
look
at
it
and
say:
oh
I've
already
seen
this
before
you
know
all
the
kinks
in
a
way
have
been
worked
out
of
it
from
the
regulatory
code
perspective,
certainly
because
it's
a
prototype
building
ground
up
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
ground
underneath
or
where
the
utilities
come
in.
There
are
some
things
that
need
to
be
adjusted,
but
it
does
save
time.
V
It
does
save
money
both
on
the
design
side
and
then
once
we've
built
the
first
one
got
the
kinks
knocked
out
of
that
one.
Certainly
we'll
save
on
change,
orders
and
unforeseen
conditions.
Things
like
that
on
the
second
iteration
of
each
prototype.
R
D
R
V
That's
tbd
when
we
get
to
that
to
that
point,
but
certainly
we
do
most
of
our
buildings.
We
contemplate
expansion
of
them,
so
we
pre-position
some
assets.
The
central
plant.
We
run
some
bulk
mains
for
water
supply
for
sewage
return.
Things
like
that,
so
we
anticipate
the
eventuality
to
some
buildings
may
need
to
be
expanded.
We
also
anticipate
the
eventuality
that
the
building
may
possibly
need
portable
relocational
classrooms
and
we
pre-position
assets
in
our
buildings
to
support
the
potential
eventuality
of
them
having
portables
there
as
well.
R
So
during
the
workshop
mr
gillian
touched
on
the
ability
for
us
to
bulk
purchase
construction
materials.
If
we're,
if
we're
building
the
same
high
school
twice
or
three
times,
would
we
be
able
to
to
buy
and
store
at
a
lower
lower
price
for
our
materials?
No.
V
Because
because
you're
going
to
be
building
to
schools
about
three
to
four
years
apart,
so
storing
an
entire
high
school's
worth
of
materials
for
four
years,
hey,
where
you're
going
to
put
it,
there's
a
chance
that
it
could,
you
know,
degrade
or
something
like
that.
So
when
you're,
for
example,
for
building
the
two
elementary
prototypes
and
are
in
the
same
time
in
the
same
phase,
bulk
purchasing
makes
a
lot
more
sense,
the
state
of
maryland
when
they
passed
the
21st
century
school
facilities
bill
or
the
not
commission's
recommendations.
V
It
actually
gave
leas
a
new
tool
to
encourage
things
like
bulk
purchasing,
consolidating
projects
etc.
So
we
have
effective
july
1
of
18
leas
have
more
tools
than
a
proverbial
toolbox
than
we
previously
did
to
start
leveraging
additional
economies
of
scale
and
things
like
that,
and
we
absolutely
intend
to
employ
those
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
on
all
these
projects.
So
we'd.
A
P
T
A
A
R
It's
it's
I'm
going
to
be
that
guy
today.
Aren't
I
yes
all
right!
So,
looking
over
your
2020
plan,
I
see
that
north
county
high
school
has
a
5
million
investment
in
new
chillers
and
other
hvac
equipment,
but
it's
my
understanding
that
we
invested
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
north
county
last
year
with
some
issues
with
hvac.
V
Sure
so
north
county
high
school
stronghold
is
built
in
phases.
As
you
know,
it
wasn't
all
constructed
and
put
in
all
the
equipment
wasn't
put
in
at
one
single
time
there.
So
like
many
of
those
buildings
that
are
phased
or
go
across
time,
the
equipment
is
equipment
has
an
expected
life
expectancy
and
we
try
to
match
the
reinvestment
or
the
replacement
of
that
equipment
with
the
co-terminus
with
the
expiration
of
that
equipment's
expiration
date.
If
we
replace
it
sooner
than
that,
we
basically
lose
value.
V
So,
for
example,
if
we
bought
a
20-year
chiller,
I'm
just
making
up
an
example
to
keep
things
simple,
but
if
it
was
still
good
working
order,
why
replace
it?
In
year
17
we
will
be
leaving
three
years
of
value
of
that
unit
on
the
table.
So
with
the
limited
resources
we
have,
we
we
do
try
the
right
time
right
place
now,
obviously,
again
in
my
hypothetical
example,
if
you
have
a
20-year
machine,
it
could
suffer
premature
failure.
It
could
have
a
lightning
strike
that
the
next
you
know
knocks
it
out.
V
R
Was
that
money
spent
at
north
county
last
year
was
that
was
that,
were
we
planning
to
spend
that
money
or
was
that
emergency
repair?
Last.
R
V
Typically
again,
you
know,
most
equipment
really
does
have
nowadays
equipment's
made
rather
well,
and
if
the
equipment
has
a
scheduled
amount
of
run
hours
or
life
cycle
on
it,
most
equipment
does
tend
to
make
that
so
absent
a
a
weather,
kind
of
condition,
a
power
surge
conditions.
Something
like
that.
We
typically
don't
have
what
we
term
as
premature
failures.
R
R
So
what
what
would
improving
the
staffing
for
preventative
maintenance
do
to
chip
away
at
this
maintenance
backlog.
V
It
could
do
two
things
one:
it
could
potentially
extend
the
life
of
equipment
so
going
back
to
my
hypothetical
example,
if
you,
if
you
treat
equipment,
if
you
treat
it
well
and
it's
designed
to
last
20,
you
may
get
22
or
23.,
you
get
more
value
for
your
initial
investment.
If
you
treat
it
poorly
there's
a
potential,
you
can
have
a
premature
failure,
so
doing
preventive
maintenance
will
ensure
that
it
at
least
gets
to
its
expected
life
and
possibly
gets
more
expected
life
out
of
it.
That's
one
piece.
V
The
second
piece
really
has
to
do
with
energy
efficiencies
so
to
the
extent
that
it's
proper,
properly,
lubricated,
properly
balanced,
etc.
It's
operating
at
a
more
efficient
level
and
therefore
you're
using
less
utility
consumption
within
that
unit.
R
V
Correct
you
can
gain
quite
a
lot
by
doing
preventative
maintenance,
properly
and
sequenced
in
the
right
fashion
and
the
right
intervals.
R
So
just
for
the
public,
where,
where
does
the
funding
for
the
maintenance
plan
come
from.
V
So
there's
two
pieces
of
it:
the
personnel
that
attend
to
maintenance
and
accounting
comes
in
our
operating
budget.
The
actual
physical
assets
are
largely
co-funded
by
both
the
county
and
on
items
of
buildings
that
are
eligible
for
state
participation.
V
We
try
to
receive
state
funding
for
those
items
too,
for
items
that
are
eligible
for
state
participation
at
the
component
replacement
level
we
typically
yield,
maybe
45
or
so
from
the
state.
The
county
has
to
do
the
other
55
for
items
that
are
ineligible
for
state
participation.
It's
a
hundred
percent
local
county
capital
cost
and
a
zero
percent
state
capital
cost.
R
V
Essentially,
it's
putting
a
down
a
down
payment
today
to
get
a
better
return
in
the
future.
To
that
extent,
I'll
agree.
Okay,.
AA
Thank
you.
Madam
president,
I
was
upset
at
colin
for
pushing
a
button
and
then
I
I
pushed
mine,
so
I
I
I'll
buy
a
dozen
donuts
tomorrow.
So
my
my
question.
Actually,
mr
reinhardt's
questions
or
series
of
questions
made
me
think
of
this.
The
reports
that
earlier
this
week
we
were
reading
about
university
of
maryland
college
park
with
the
excessive
rain.
AA
You
know
more
or
less,
what's
turned
out
to
be
a
mold
outbreak
and
you
had
referenced
the
excessive
rain
that
we've
received
to
the
extent
possible,
and
I
know
you
can
never
be
100
sure,
but
just
so
you
know
whether
it's
a
staffing
related
issue
or
or
just
any
other
way
that
we
can
be
preemptive.
You.
AB
D
AA
It's
one
of
those
days
are:
are
we
getting
ahead,
or
at
least
trying
to
proactively
check?
You
know,
buildings
that
that
may
have
had
leaks
in
the
past
that,
with
the
excessive
rain
that
were
not
going
to
be
caught
in
in
the
spring,
with
with
with
mold
spores.
V
Absolutely
I
mean
again,
I
think,
a
lot
of
it.
So
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
I
mean
buildings
are
checked
each
and
every
day
when
we
believe
we
have
exposures,
ms
crawford
and
mr
mccaffrey,
mr
anders
from
our
operations
unit
we
go
out
and
do
weekend
checks
we'll
check
buildings
on
holidays
before
we
open
up
to
school
the
next
day,
so
we're
very
proactive
in
that
regard
I
mean
every
every
building
system
basically
has
a
design
capacity.
V
I
don't
care
if
it's
heating,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
it's
cooling
or
I
don't
care
if
it's
dehumidification,
so
when,
when
you,
when
the
climatic
conditions
exceed
the
design
capacities,
the
pre-contemplated
design
capacities
for
building,
you
always
have
the
chance
to
stress
the
system
out,
so
we
know
basically
to
what
to
what
level
to
what
capacity
our
buildings
are
designed.
They're,
not
all
designed
together.
We
have
older
buildings,
newer
buildings,
as
you
can
well
imagine,
and
so
you
know
we
know,
depending
on
the
exterior
conditions,
be
they
temperature,
dew,
point
humidity,
etcetera.
A
One
thing
I
noticed
in
the
plan
that
stood
out
to
me
was
the
great
work
by
your
energy
conservation
office
that
they've
received
a
million
dollars
in
utility
incentives
and
rebates
which
is
fabulous
and
that
because
of
upgrades
and
improvement
and
lighting
and
the
hvac
systems
we're
saving
350
000
a
year.
That's
that's
great
hats
off
to
your
teams
for
that
great
savings
that
we
have
there.
A
So,
according
to
this,
we
have
a
343
million
dollar
backlog
in
maintenance
that
we
have
and
we
have
the
five-year
plan
you're
asking
for
1
75
179
a
year
or
something
so
last
year.
Our
request
for
the
maintenance
backlog
was
underfunded
by
the
county.
By
about
9
million
dollars.
Is
that
correct?
Did
I
read
that
correctly.
A
So,
each
year
that
we're
underfunded
on
that
all
of
this
backlog
gets
pushed
back
more.
So
if
we,
if
it's
funded
at
the
rate,
we
want
it
to
be
for
that
we're
asking
for
the
next
five
years,
then
we're
going
to
keep
up
and
reduce
this
maintenance
backlog,
but
every
year
that
it's
underfunded,
everything
gets
pushed
back
more
and
more
so
that
nine
million
a
year
that's
significant,
more
things
that
we're
delaying
in
trying
to
stretch
for
another
year
or
things
like
that
sure.
V
So
portion
of
it
was
moved
forward
that
accounts
for
nine
million,
but
each
and
every
year
more
items
reach
that
scheduled
life
cycle
end
of
life
cycle
kind
of
event,
so
you've
got
the
new
items
that
are
on
the
list,
plus
the
carryover
from
the
last
year.
That's
the
second
piece
and
then
in
in
times
like
now,
where
we've
got
pricing,
inflation,
3.74
or
so
in
the
in
the
consumer
market.
Right
now,
the
cost
of
the
individual
items
per
item
go
up
as
well.
V
A
As
mr
rinehart
said,
you
know,
additional
preventative
maintenance
staff
would
be
a
down
payment
for
savings
in
the
future
and
receiving
appropriate
funding
from
the
county
to
meet.
These
goals
saves
us
in
the
future
too,
because,
as
you
said,
costs
go
up
so
the
sooner
we
can
do
things.
If
we
do
it
the
price.
Today,
it's
going
to
be
less
expensive
than
the
price
in
two
years
right.
V
And
the
state
is
very:
the
state
is
very
mindful
of
that
as
well.
The
state
the
state
will
not
participate
in
funding
of
the
replacement
of
of
ill-maintained
equipment.
So
if,
if
we
have
a
project-
and
we
put
in
mr
reinhard-
began
to
to
go
down
this
road,
if
we
put
in
for
a
project
all
capital
projects
are
line
item
appropriated,
I
mean
the
state
looks
at
our
justification
level.
They
look
at
the
age
of
the
equipment.
V
On
occasion,
they'll
send
inspectors
out
to
look
at
our
assets
before
they'll,
decide
whether
to
fund
them
or
not.
If
they
are
of
the
belief
that
we
did
not
properly
maintain
it
that
we
that
the
equipment
failed
for
reasons
that
were
not,
for
example,
a
bg
e
voltage
spike,
that's
enacted
god,
none
of
us
could
have
essentially
prevented
it
could
put
us
also
in
a
potential
for
the
state
not
participating
in
it.
So
we
are
very
diligent
in
maintaining
the
equipment
because,
again,
15
20
x
years
down
the
road.
AB
V
Maintenance
background
absolutely:
is
we
carry
we
carry
that
the
liability
for
the
preventive
maintenance
activities
in
that
building?
We
carry
that
liability
in
the
comprehensive
maintenance
plan
once
the
project
once
the
project's
brought
online,
then
all
of
the
deferred
maintenance
for
that
project
all
goes
gets
backed
out,
so
the
comprehensive
replacement
or
reconstruction
etc
of
a
school
does
help
make
inroads
because
it
it
essentially
eradicates
the
deferred
liability
of
that
older,
pre-existing
building.
V
Absolutely
every
every
single
newly
renovated
reconstructed,
replace
building,
etc,
dollar
for
dollar.
All
that
again,
the
deferred
liability
comes
off
the
ledger
when
that
project
is
delivered.
Thank
you.
A
U
T
A
A
Is
there
any,
I
see
your
finger
waiting
there,
mr
gillian
your
finger.
Is
there,
do
you
want?
No,
okay.
Is
there
any
public
comment
all
right,
miss
connolly?
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
T
D
T
D
A
A
The
board
will
now
move
towards
being
comprised
of
seven
non-partisan
elected
members,
one
member
from
each
of
the
seven
councilmanic
districts
in
anne
arundel
county
and
one
student
member,
the
first
four
elected
board
members
will
take
office
on
december
3rd
2018
and
the
remaining
three
elected
members
will
take
office
on
december.
Seventh,
twenty
twenty.
In
light
of
these
changes,
the
board
will
engage
in
discussion
on
two
policies
for
possible
revision
in
the
future
policies,
bbd
and
bf,
and
mr
reinhard.
R
Thank
you,
madam
president,
as
chair
of
the
work
policy
committee,
we're
having
this
discussion
to
remain
in
compliance
with
the
maryland
open
meetings,
access,
we
are
discussing
potential
changes
and
concerns
of
policy,
so
we're
having
this
discussion
tonight
because
in
our
policy
committee
meeting,
which
is,
is
also
open
to
the
public
public's
welcome
to
attend
those.
This
that
calendar
is
is
published
online.
R
We
began
to
have
challenges
a
challenge
in
figuring
out
when
the
best
time
would
be
for
officer
elections,
considering
we
have
what's
going
to
be
a
a
mixed
board
of
appointed
and
elected
and
that
folks
have
been
brought
on
at
different
times
whether
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
elections
immediately
after
a
board
is
seated
or
if
it
makes
more
sense
to
match
it
up
with
our
school
calendar
it
to
start
it
on
say
july.
Y
Y
I
think
at
some
point
there
needs
to
be
a
transition
year
where
you're
electing
your
officers
in
july,
say
like
july
of
2019
next
july,
but
those
people
serve
for
18
months
to
get
us
to
december
of
2020
when
you'll
be
on
this
new
cycle
of
elected
board
members
or
you
could
do
it
the
same
thing.
You
know
july
of
2020.
You
elect
your
officers
for
18
months
and
by
december
of
2021.
Y
Y
A
AB
I
I
agree
with
the
the
substance
of
what
ms
corblack
was
saying,
but
just
another
alternative
then
would
be
obviously
to
have
an
election
early
in
2019,
and
that
would
be
a
new
board
seated
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
necessarily
better
than
what
ms
corblak
was
suggesting,
but
in
particular,
given
the
policy
behind
the
legislature's
change
in
how
board
members
are
selected.
AB
You
know
there
might
be
a
little
thumb
on
the
scale
in
favor
of
doing
that,
because
if
you
don't
do
it
that
way,
you're
basically
having
the
election
of
officers
by
an
entirely
unelected
board,
govern
a
board
that
is
at
least
half
elected.
So
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
there
and
then
obviously
we
you
know
the
incumbent
officers
to
the
extent
that
they're
still
on
the
board
could
could
run
for
reelection,
and
that
would
be
up
to
the
full
board
to
decide
which
would
be
a
mixture
of
both
newly
elected
as
well.
AC
I
agree
I
agree
with
mrs
korbalak
and
and
mr
grant
that
those
should
be
considered.
I
think
it's
important
as
a
former
I've
been
president
and
vice
president,
and
I,
when
you
serve
on
the
board,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
realize
how
much
it
takes
to
be
a
board
officer.
AC
I,
when
I
first
came
on
the
board
in
2007,
it
took
me
a
full
year
to
really
learn
everything
I
needed
to
know.
I
I
didn't
want
to
be
a
board
officer.
I
wanted
to
learn,
and
I
wanted
to
know-
and
I
think
then,
whether
they're
elected
appointed
or
whatever,
when
a
board
member
comes
in,
they
aren't
immediately
ready
to
be
a
board
officer.
They
really
do
need
that
time.
So
I
think
it's
important
whatever.
AC
However,
the
policy
is
written
that
bear
in
mind
that
we
need
to
to,
I
think,
do
that
and
have
everyone
have
their
opportunity
to
to
speak,
but
just
bear
in
mind
that
board
officers.
AC
R
So
I
I
hear
two
sets
of
two
sets
of
concerns
and
it's
it's
from
what
I've
heard
so
far.
It
seems
that
we're
leaning
towards
changing
elections
to
after
the
seating
of
new
members-
I
I
see
just
we're
going
to
play
devil's
advocate
here,
so
we
have
two
two
situations
that
could
arise
in
when
we
have
a
completely
elected
board,
there's
the
potential
that
every
single
person
is
new
and
we
will
have
to
elect
leadership
among
all
those
folks
who
are
under
possible,
potentially
unaware
of
the
processes
behind
the
scenes
here
at
aacps.
R
So
I
was
thinking
okay,
so
we'll
start
in
july,
but
if
we
have
that
election
in
july
before
the
general
election
and
they
get
ousted,
then
we're
back
in
the
same
situation,
just
as
I
was
considering
well,
perhaps
because
of
how
we
set
the
budget
and
our
capital
improvements,
and
we
we
set
our
our
goals
for
the
superintendent,
all
of
that
happens
early
on
in
the
school
year,
and
perhaps
it
makes
more
sense
to
have
leadership
seated
in
july,
so
they
can
see
the
whole
year
through.
R
So
how
would
the
board
feel
about
creating
a
sunset
situation
so
that
we
look
at
two
two
chunks
for
for
our
two
differently,
seated
or
elected
boards?
So
we
have.
We
keep
it
in
july
until
we
are
fully
elected
at
which
time
it
transitions
to
after
the
board
is
seated
after
the
general
election.
Y
Y
R
AD
So
if
you
leave
the
policy,
as
is
than
your
officers
or
officers,
I
mean
ultimately,
you
decide
to
revise
your
policy
in
some
way
and
I'm
sorry
jeanette
ortiz,
legislative
and
policy
counsel
for
the
record.
So
if
you,
when
you
update
your
policy
once
you
revise
it,
then
you
would
follow
through
you.
Can
you
indicated
a
sunset
provision
or
we
could
do
a
a
delayed?
AB
Yeah-
I
guess
the
more
I
think
about
this,
especially
since
we're
no
matter
what
gonna
end
up
in
a
system
where
the
elections
take
place
after
the
board,
members
are
seated,
that's
what's
hap,
that's
inevitable!
The
more
I
think
about
that.
The
more
I
think
about
the
aura-
or
you
know
the
impression
that's
going
to
be
given
to
the
new
board
members
as
well
as
to
the
public.
If
we
try
to
hold
that
at
bay
as
long
as
as
long
as
possible.
AB
AB
But
to
say
well,
you
know,
we
know
better
and
we're
gonna
hold
this
inevitable
change.
It's
happening
we're
going
to
hold
that
at
bay,
and
then
you
know
it
doesn't
matter
to
me
who
these
people
are,
but
obviously
the
two
officers
that
we
have
now
are
both
candidates
for
the
board
and
should
they
not
win
their
elections,
we're
saying
well,
no.
We
still
want
these
people
to
be
officers
of
the
board,
even
though
they
didn't
win
their
elections.
That's
entirely
undemocratic.
A
R
So
to
your
point,
mr
grant-
and
you
mentioned
in
in
earlier
comments-
that
we
should
give
the
incumbents
an
opportunity
to
make
their
case
as
well
as
the
new
board
members.
I
believe
that
could
occur
in
january
or
in
july.
They
would
both
have
that
that
that
same
and
then
six
months
would
give
folks
an
experience.
R
I
I
certainly
hear
your
concerns,
and
with
with
going
back
to
the
policy
committee,
there
will
be
opportunities
for
public
comment,
just
as
with
all
of
our
other
policies
as
we
we
enjoy
the
discussion
about
sunscreen
use
in
just
a
few
minutes,
so
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
to
hear
from
the
public
and
also
to
cast
a
vote
and
share
on
that,
but
the
yeah.
It's
if
I
understand
correctness
core
black.
So
we
would
this
the
second,
the
other.
So
you
so
you
were.
R
Y
I
was
trying
to
get
us
to
december
of
2020
because
I
thought
it
was
too
late
to
change
our
officers
for
the
year.
So
I
thought
the
election
from
july
of
2018
was
going
to
carry
us
to
2019
july
of
2019,
no
matter
what,
and
so
we
could
have
an
election
in
july
of
2019
for
six
months,
but
there
isn't
another
election
until
december
of
2020..
So
the
new
folks
from
december
of
2018
will
have
been
there
six
months
and
they
can
certainly
run
for
officers
or
elect
the
ones
that
they
prefer.
Y
But
then
the
next
crop
of
new
folks
doesn't
show
up
until
december
2020..
Okay,.
R
And
and
for
clarity,
mr
gillian
and
this
hummer,
if,
if
you
were
to
lose
the
election,
would
you
still
be
members
of
the
board.
R
Through
the
the
appointed
seat.
D
AB
Yeah,
I
think
a
very
important
point
that
miss
corblak
was
making.
Is
you
had
thought
that?
But
then
ms
ortiz
disabused
you
of
that.
So
that's
a
very
sort
of
important,
not
so
subtle
point
that
we
should
get
across
is
it
very
very
easily
could
be
changed
in
this
policy
by
this
board
to
make
the
election,
for
example
in
january,
in
which
case
we
would
just
then
have
annual
elections
in
january
right
after
the
members
are
seated
each
december,
so
we
would
be
completely
on
cycle.
AB
We'd
have
and
we
wouldn't
have
to
go
to
some
18-month
officership
to
make
it
even
longer.
We
would
have
an
election
in
january
and
then
we
would
have
another
in
january.
2019
and
we'd
have
another
election
in
january
of
2020,
then
whoever
comes
on
in
december
of
2020
is
eligible
to
run
in
the
next
annual
election
of
january
2021.
So
we've
been
totally
on
cycle
well,.
A
AB
Now
my
suggestion
was
that
whatever
the
constitution
of
the
board
is
at
that
time,
those
people
should
be
making
the
determination
and
the
best
way
to
do
that
would
be
to
have
and
whether
it's
in
january
or
at
the
end
of
december,
whatever
it
is,
I
I
don't
know
that
I
exceed
to
what
president
humber
was
saying
that
it
has
to
be
then,
but
any
event
as
soon
as
practicable
after
the
seating
of
the
members
gives
the
opportunity
to
that
board
to
make
that
decision.
AE
D
AB
I
could
probably
do
the
job
better,
because
an
ad
hoc
resignation
or
incapacitation
of
a
board
member
that
leads
to
a
replacement
is
one
person.
What
we're
talking
about
is
setting
for
basically
the
constitution,
for
how
this
board
is
going
to
elect
its
officers
and
we're
debating
back
and
forth
between
proposals,
and
it
was
made
abundantly
clear
through
mr
reinhardt's
questioning
and
I
think,
accurate
description
that
no
matter
what
we
are
going
to
get
to
a
position
where
this
board
elects
its
leadership
immediately
after
the
board
is
seated.
AB
AB
That's
going
to
be
the
way
that
this
board
elects
its
officers
in
2038
and
in
2058,
but
we
want
to
hold
that
at
bay
a
little
bit
longer
so
that
our
officers
who
have
been
in
office
longer,
we
think
they
know
better,
and
we
want
to
make
their
positions
as
sticky
as
possible,
and
I
think,
in
the
face
of
what
the
legislature
obviously
is
determined
about
making
boards
elected
that
us
rubbing
against.
That
is
not
the
right
thing
to
do.
Is.
AE
AB
For
me
personally,
as
I'm
talking
about
this,
no
because
I
I
mean
I,
I
certainly
think
if
we're
we're
saying
that
the
election
of
the
president
of
the
board
is
going
to
be
something
that's
going
to
be,
what
harmful
to
students
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year
to
have
that
kind
of
change.
I
I
kind
of
hope
that
the
students
in
our
school.
AB
AD
AB
Let
me
make
it
abundantly
clear
is
nothing
I'm
saying
is
was
meant
to
imply
that,
to
be
frank,
whoever
the
president
is
for
is
that
that's
going
to
be
harmful
to
students.
I
certainly
don't
think
that's
the
case
from
the
current
officers
or
any
officers
that
I
can
imagine
what
I'm
saying
is
it's
undemocratic
for
us
as
a
public
institution
to
say
we
know
it's
coming
that
we're
going
to
have
the
election
of
officers
immediately
after
the
board.
Members
are
seated
we're
going
to
try
to
hold
that
off
as
soon
as
possible.
AB
AB
AE
Well,
we've
already
started.
That's
was
the
question:
was
there
any
consideration
at
all
in
terms
of
any
of
these
various
policies
of
that
these
elections?
Everything
that's
taking
place,
whether
it's
december
or
january,
it's
going
to
be
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year.
That's
the
only
it's
just
an
observation.
AE
Y
I
was
just
going
to
say:
we
can't
guarantee
the
continuity
of
the
president
and
vice
president
in
election
years,
because,
as
mr
reinhard
pointed
out,
the
whole
board
could
be
wiped
out
in
an
election
year,
which
is
also
why,
I
would
say
december,
had
to
be
the
election
instead
of
january
by
policy,
because
at
some
point
there
could
be
no
one
here
in
december,
who
was
already
an
officer
from
the
previous
year.
Mr
reinhardt.
R
Mr
ray
I'd
like
to
apologize
for
an
oversight,
in
fact
the
student
member
woodbridge,
so
we
I
I
as
a
as
a
fully
well
as
a
member
with
full
voting
voting
rights
on
this
board.
Yes,
you
could
be
perhaps
that
would
solve
our
problem.
Mr
grannon
is
the
student
member
could
oversee
for
for
a
few
weeks
until
we
get
the
new
leadership,
that's
yeah
go
on
the
resume,
so
perhaps
perhaps
then
we
we
can
come
to
a
compromise.
R
It
seems
that
that
we
are
an
agreement
that
we're
going
to
go
to
or
that
we're
we're
going
to
be
in
policy
committee.
We're
going
to
propose
for
this
board
to
vote
on
that
we
will
go
to
elections
for
officers
of
the
board
immediately
upon
seating
when
we're
fully
elected.
So
I
think
we're
in
agreement
on
that.
R
Mr
grannon
suggests
that
we
can.
We
can
start
in
january,
19
or
december
december
18,
and
we
hear
other
members
suggesting
well.
Let's,
let's
do,
let's
do
a
longer,
a
longer
stretch,
or
at
least
keep
this,
keep
this
leadership
in
place,
and
I'm
not
sure
it's
you
know
it's
it's
to
make
the
position
sticky
as
much.
It
is
just
to
offer
continuity.
R
We
do
I.
I
can
see
potentially
that
if
we
were
to
change
leadership
who
whoever
was
in
that
leadership,
possession
position
that
they
they
have
the
right
to
change
the
direction
of
the
board
and
if
we
have,
if
we've
set
a.
R
If,
if
we
set
our
course
for
the
school
year,
it
is
possible
in
the
middle
of
the
school
year
with
new
officers
that
we
could
change
that
course,
and
whether
whether
it's
it's
down
to
contracts
or
or
or
budgeting
or
whatnot,
so
but
that's
going
to
be
a
problem
once
we're
fully
elected.
So
what
I'm
offering
then
is,
is
perhaps
a
compromise,
and
we
rather
than
this
next
having
having
another
set
of
off
officer
elections
in
december
of
18
that
we
begin
in
december
of
19.
R
There
was
the
expectation
when
this
board
voted
that
the
officers
would
be
in
place
for
12
months.
We
all
we
all
voted
with
that
understanding.
Miss
ortiz
has
has
since
disabused
us.
That's
a
fun
word
has
since
disabused
us
of
that.
It's
not
fun,
but
but
where?
How
do
we
feel
as
a
board
as
as
mixed,
appointed
and
elected
to
start
those
elections,
then,
in
december
of
19.
A
R
A
AB
Granite,
I
just
you
know,
for
the
for
the
accuracy
of
the
record.
I
don't
to
make
sure
that
bonnie
claire
was
saying
when
I
said
january.
I
don't
want
there
to
be
any
semantics
about
this.
I
mean
as
soon
as
possible
after
the
selection
of
these
members-
and
I
guess
I
just
I
want
to
you
know
reiterate.
AB
You
know
especially
we're
talking
about
different
permutations
here
now
with
officers
who
are
up
for
election,
who
are
going
to
be,
I
guess
potentially
even
voting
on
this
and
just
the
appearance
of
that
we
could
defer
this
decision.
That's
another
thing
we
could
do
is
we
could
defer
this
decision
until
after
the
new
board
is
fully
seated
in
december
that
to
me
that
would
at
least
be
a
a
more
respectful
way
to
acknowledge
the
process
that
the
legislature
has
put
in
place.
Let.
A
Me,
let
me
clarify
so
I'm
still
speaking
well.
I
want
to
address
what
you're
saying,
because
I
think
it
will
answer
some
of
what
you're
saying
so
the
way
that
the
timing
on
this
would
work
we're
having
this
discussion.
Now
it
would
go
to
the
policy
committee
to
be
drafted.
It
would
come
before
the
ms
ortiz
make
sure
that
I'm
saying
this
correctly.
It
would
come
before
this
board
for
the
existing
seated
board
for
first
reading
and
then
go
out
to
the
public
for
public
comment.
A
Second
and
third
reading
because
of
the
timing,
would
fall
under
the
new
newly
elected
board.
So
that
way
this
board
has
input
into
it,
but
the
final
vote
and
and
input
and
opportunities
to
amend
if
they
so
wish,
will
go
under
the
new
board.
So
it
would
be
voted
on
by
the
lord.
This
would
not
be
the
new
board
pushing
something
on
with
no
input
from
the
newly
elected
board.
Well,.
AB
I
just
I
disagree
with
that
entirely
and
I
don't
think
what
you
just
said
was
at
all
an
appropriate
clarification
of
the
point
that
I
was
making
these
we
would
absolutely
be
setting
in
motion,
but
there's
no
reason
not
to
do
this
in
december
after
the
new
board
is
seated.
Why
set
this
in
motion?
Why
make
it
that
much
harder
for
them
to
change?
Something,
there's,
no
reason
that
this
board
has
to
do
that.
The
new
board
could
make
this
decision
in
december.
M
AD
Whatever
this
current
board
pushed
forward
as
a
proposed
revisions
to
the
policy,
because
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
make
any
amendments
on
second
and
third
reading,
so
it
would
go
to
the
new
board,
which
would
be
comprised
of
at
least
some
new
members
on
second
and
third
reading,
and
you
have
the
ability
to
amend
a
policy
on
second
and
third
readings.
So
that
would
not
be
that
wouldn't
be
any
different
than
the
way
we're
doing
it.
Now.
AB
It
would
be
entirely
different
to
set
in
place
something
that
a
new
board
is
and
then
incumbent
upon
them
to
change
something
that's
already
in
motion,
there's
no
reason
that
has
to
be
done
now.
What
is
the?
What
is
the?
What
is
the
pressing
need
that
this
has
to
be
done
at
the
end
of
september,
set
in
motion
now
that
we
have
to
do
this
when
this
decision
could
be
made
in
december
by
a
new
board
with
people?
AB
It's
like
we're
like
reacting
to
this,
that
somehow
elected
board
members
are
like
an
evil
to
be
delayed
as
long
as
possible.
The
legislature
put
this
in
place.
The
people
voted
for
the
legislature.
The
people
will
be
voting
for
these
board
members.
It
is
absolutely
undemocratic
for
us
to
make
put
any
impediment
in
in
in
their
way
for
them
to
have
a
full
influence
on
this.
So
there's
no
reason
to
have
a
first
reading.
AB
Now,
let's
defer
this
until
december,
and
then
we
can
then
that
board
can
make
the
determination-
and
in
particular,
when
we're
dealing
with
a
situation
where
officers
are
now
potentially
voting
on
their
own
continuity
in
officership
when
they're,
not
even
members
of
the
board
anymore
and
financially
benefit
from
having
the
officer
positions.
I
think
it's
entire
it.
It
just
reeks
of
the
idea
that
we
want
to
do
something
to
keep
the
elected
board
at
bay
and
it's
not
necessary.
R
AD
Yes,
because
the
policy,
so
if
you
wait
until
the
new
board
is
seated
and
so
for
the
first
december
meeting,
not
even
the
first
december
meeting,
because
it
would
have
to
go
to
the
december
policy
committee,
which
is
in
about
mid-december,
so
then
the
let's
say
that
policy
committee,
you
know,
determines
how
they
would
like
to
revise
this
policy.
AD
The
policy
would
not
come
before
the
full
board
with
the
proposed
revisions
until
the
second
meeting
in
january
or
the
first
meeting
in
january.
It
depends
on
how
the
calendar
runs,
but
sometime
in
january.
So
then
it
would
come
before
the
full
board
in
january.
AD
R
AA
AB
Okay,
well
with
all
due
respect,
I
think
I've
known
you
for
eight
years
and
if
that's
the
way
you
took
that,
then
I
don't
think
you
know
me
very
well
at
all.
What
I
said
was
the
impression
that
it
gives
the
public
to
have
people
who
are
in
officer
positions
voting
on
something
that
could
affect
their
continuity
in
that
position
gives
it
raises
an
aura
of
impropriety.
It
has
nothing.
AB
Now
the
process
point
that
you
made
if,
if
what
you're
saying
is
correct
in
terms
of
giving
the
new
board
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
that,
that's
fine!
I
have
no
problem
with
that
in
terms
of
starting
this
now,
but
what
you
said
was
baking
into
the
into
the
first
reading
of
that
policy.
This
idea
of
a
compromise
that
the
next
election
would
be
in
july
of
2019..
AB
I
do
have
a
problem
with
that,
if
we're
going,
if
we're
so
eager
to
give
the
new
board
an
opportunity
to
influence
this
as
soon
as
possible,
let's
not
blow
on
those
dice.
So
I'm
talking
about
the
substance
of
what
you're
saying,
not
the
process.
If
we're
doing
this
to
give
the
new
board,
you
know
an
immediate
influence
from
the
get-go,
then
don't
bake
into
it.
This
idea
that
the
election
should
be
in
july
of
2019,
because
that
rubs
against
that.
AE
AE
So
I
don't
think
it's
really
that
big
of
a
deal
for
us
to
start
talking
about
people
being
undemocratic
and
all
that
other
stuff.
So
let's
just
kind
of
keep
everything
above
board.
D
A
I
do
want
to
bring
in,
I
think
something
that
needs
to
be
added
to
this
policy,
because
there's
currently
nothing
nothing.
The
current
policy
states
that,
if
the
president
or
vice
president,
are
temporarily
unavailable
to
quit
their
responsibilities,
but
there's
nothing
in
there
that
says
that
that
talks
about
how,
for
instance,
if
a
board
officer
resigns,
there's
no
mechanism
in
there
for
how
a
board
board
officers
would
be
replaced,
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
added.
R
If
are
we
looking
at
so
if
the
president
were
to
resign,
would
we
not
have
succession
from
vice
president,
or
we
would
have
to
then
vote
for
president,
keep
the
vice
president.
A
Well,
there's
nothing
in
the
policy
that
says
what
we
would
do.
It
says
if
the
president
is
not
available,
that
the
vice
president
steps
in,
but
there's
nothing
to
say
that
if
a
position
becomes
a
vacant,
what,
if
the
vice
president
resigns,
there's
not
an
immediate
person
to
fill
their
spot,
so
I
think
we
need
to
add
to
the
policy
to
have
some
sort
of
mechanism
to
fill
possible
vacancies
at
some
point
for
how
they
would
handle
those
things.
Y
Y
AD
A
AD
AB
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
be
doing
that,
another
thing
that
we
can
do-
and
it
sounds
like
the
policy
committee-
is
the
right
place
to
do.
This
is
let's
also
examination,
let's
also
examine
the
powers
of
the
officers,
especially
as
we're
going
to
a
fully
elected
board
and
that
there
are
concerns
about
people
having
those
positions
who
perhaps
don't
have
the
same
experience
as
the
people
who
have
them
now
and
it.
AB
Inevitably,
it's
going
to
be
the
case
that
you
could
easily
have
a
president,
and
vice
president
who've
had
zero
experience
on
the
board,
in
particular
because
of
that,
and
because
of
the
things
that
go
along
with
having
an
elected
board
as
a
as
a
poster,
an
appointed
board,
for
example,
things
like
the
the
president
of
the
board
being
able
to
basically
set
the
agenda
for
the
public
meetings
if
he
or
she
if
he
or
she
so
chooses
without
input
from
the
other
board
members.
AB
That's
something
we
should
consider
this
board
put
in
place
over
my
objection
and
over
my
vote,
something
which
seems
you
know
really
kind
of
silly
and
petty
and
arbitrary
that
the
president
determines
where
people
sit
up
on
the
dais
and
at
the
time
I
said
well
guys
we're
going
toward
an
elected
system.
Let's
have
people
sit
in
order
of
seniority
or
alphabetically
or
something
like
that
and
this
board
went.
I
think
it
was
8-1
against
me
and
said
no,
no,
the
president
should
determine
where
people
sit
and
so
stuff
like
that.
AB
A
AE
Is
that
what
look
you
talked
about
perception?
We've
spent
more
time
talking
about
something
that
we're
not
even
going
to
vote
on.
That
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
the
kids
that
we've
spent
more
time.
We
haven't
even
talked
to
engage
with
the
people
that
are
mentioning
comments
about
lead
in
the
water,
but
we're
talking
about
where
people
sit
and
policy
that
we
have
nothing
to
do
with
this.
Is
I'm
asking
that
we
just
move
on
from
this?
AE
AB
You
know,
mr
butcher,
it
was
your
election
to
comment
or
not
about
water
safety
issues.
If
you
chose
not
to
comment
on
it,
that's
that's
your
choice.
What
I'm
talking
about
this
is
a
public
body.
It's
a
public
function
and
just
for
example,
the
supreme
court
of
the
united
states
has
rules
about
where
people
sit.
So
what
I'm
talking
about
is
not
silly
and
the
idea
that
a
single
person
could
decide
to
move
people
around
for
some
personal
reason
or
a
political
one
is
a
very
serious
thing
that
this
board
should
take
into
account.
AB
A
A
AD
So
the
division
of
student
support
services
is
bringing
policy
jm
student
use
of
sunscreen
before
you
for
first
reading.
This
is
a
new
policy.
The
policy
is
in
accordance
with
new
maryland
state
law,
which
requires
local
school
boards
to
adopt
a
policy
on
student
use
of
sunscreen
at
school
and
school-sponsored
activities.
AD
So
in
accordance
with
this
new
state
law,
this
new
policy
authorizes
students
to
possess
and
use
sunscreen
at
school
and
school
sponsored
activities
without
written
permission
from
a
healthcare
provider.
The
policy
will
be
posted
on
our
website
for
30
days
for
public
comment,
and
we
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
R
So
is
there
any
consideration
in
this
policy
of
the
various
delivery
methods
of
sunscreen
available
today.
AD
So,
no
not
specifically
because
the
state
law
is
very
broad
in
authorizing
students
to
bring
sunscreen
so
whether
it's
lotion
or
an
aerosol
spray
that
was
not
limited
in
the
state
law.
So
therefore,
we
really
can't
limit
that.
However,
there
is
the
language
in
the
policy
under
the
position
c2,
which
states
that
a
school
principal
shall
implement
the
appropriate
procedures
to
ensure
that
the
sunscreen
is
for
personal
use
self-applied
and
that
application
of
the
sunscreen
does
not
negatively
impact
other
students.
AD
So
you
know
you
might
have
students
with
allergy
or
asthma,
something
like
that
when
aerosol
can,
could
you
know
be
harmful
or
negatively
impact
them,
so
the
principal
would
make
a
determination
as
to
you
know
whether
something
like
an
aerosol
spray
would
be
sprayed
outside
the
classroom.
But
we
couldn't
limit
what
type
of
sunscreen
the
students
can
use
in.
AD
Yes
again,
the
state
law
is
very
broad
on
that
point
with
regards
to
you
know:
students
in
our
school
and
school
property
and
it's
to
be
self-applied.
R
Okay,
so
another
another
sunscreen
product
has
recently
come
to
my
attention
where
we're
there's
some
recent
regulations
here
in
maryland,
that
allow
sale
of
cbd
infused
products
so
cannabis
there
are
cbd,
infused
sunscreens.
What
is
the
what
what's
the
district's
current
policy
on
cbd
in
our
school
buildings.
AD
So
we
don't
have
a
policy
on
cbd
in
our
school
buildings,
as
maybe
folks
may
or
may
not
be
aware
that
medical
cannabis
is
legal
in
the
state
of
maryland,
and
so
therefore,
there
are
various
ways
in
which
folks
can
take
or
medical
cannabis,
so
it
could
be
done
via
a
sunscreen
or
an
oil,
an
ointment.
AD
So
yes,
that
is
possible.
However,
the
log
does
define
what
sunscreen
means,
and
so
that
is
also.
D
AD
AD
R
Q
Michelle
hi
dana
scholheim
as
a
cancer
survivor.
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
cbd
does
not
have
hallucinogenic
properties
and
it's
legal
nationwide.
So
just
so
we're
not
like
going
there.
You
know
it's
not
you're,
not
gonna,
there's
no
hallucinating
properties
with
cbd
oil
and
it's
legal
nationwide.
It's.
A
Okay,
all
right,
miss
urea.
AF
I
just
have
a
question
with
your
knowledge:
does
tanning
oil
fall
under
sunscreen
because
what
what
would
prevent
students
from
by
accidentally
bringing
tanning
oil
instead
of
sunscreens
and
then
actually
harming
themselves
more.
AD
AD
A
V
V
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
follow-up
to
our
april
18
presentation
before
this
board,
as
well
as
our
july
10
summer,
series
information
sharing
session
and
as
well
as
to
address
some
of
the
issues
we've
come
across
with
the
initial
implementation
of
the
transportation
routing
software.
At
the
outset.
V
A
few
additional
points
I'd
like
to
make
at
the
outset
and
briefly
touch
upon
in
order
to
provide
some
further
context
to
tonight's
discussions.
Prior
to
turning
the
floor
over
to
mr
douglas
first
as
a
rapidly
growing
school
district,
aacps
is
picking
up
far
more
students
driving
more
lane
miles,
supporting
more
dispersed,
instructional
programming
and
support
and
servicing
more
remote
locations,
even
as
far
away
as
timonium
north
of
baltimore
and
baltimore
county
on
a
daily
basis
than
ever
before.
U
U
We
met
all
our
timelines
and
avoided
major
issues
commonly
associated
with
failed
implementations
such
as
buses,
not
being
able
to
achieve
all
of
the
work
they
were
assigned
or
inadvertently.
Publishing
sensitive
routing
information
causing
ferpa
violations
have
had
issues
with
some
late
buses
due
largely
to
ongoing
driver
shortages,
but
not
related
to
the
rollout
of
the
new
routing
system.
U
U
Protocols
for
producing
computer
generated
times
will
be
refined
to
reflect
more
accurate,
stop
times
for
route
buses
using
current
gps
data
generated
by
the
county
owned
school
bus
fleet,
as
well
as
feedback
from
driver
timing.
Reports
we'll
also
further
refine
bus,
stop
descriptions
to
assist
all
parents,
but
particularly
those
new
to
our
school
system,
and
with
that
I'll
turn
the
microphone
to
mr
mosher.
So.
AG
As
a
transportation
personnel
continue
their
work,
we
continue
to
refine
and
enhance
the
way
we're
notifying
parents
and
students
and
the
public.
So
our
office
takes
information
from
transportation.
We
use
our
automated
notification
system
to
call
text
email
parents
when
possible.
We
give
letters
to
students
that
happen
today
at
chesapeake
high
school,
for
example,
with
two
bus
routes
that
we
did
there.
The
changes
are
also
posted
daily
several
times
daily,
as
mr
douglas
said
on
the
website.
So
we
and
we
also
put
the
letters
that
we
hand,
students
onto
the
school
websites.
K
U
No
normal
volume
is
is
about
800
calls
a
day
for
the
first
several
days.
It's
it's
extremely
high.
This
year
we
estimate
that
was
about
20
or
25
percent.
More
emails
are
hard
to
determine,
since
many
are
not
from
parents.
I
mean
we,
we
I
tried
to
pull
the
email
volume
and
you
really
couldn't
get
either
questions
from
parents
or
complaints
only
because
the
email
volume
it's
we're
doing
business
on
the
email.
So
if
we
could
capture
a
total
email
number,
we
still
couldn't
really
glean
how
many
were
complaints.
U
The
phone
calls
and
again
these
are
these
are
estimates,
but
we
in
the
first
couple
of
days
of
school
we
generally
have
about
800
calls
which,
if,
if
you
allow
me
one
of
the
things
this
program
will
eventually
take
care
of,
is
that
800
people
won't
have
to
call
us.
U
So
so
the
the
issues
that
had
to
do
with
with
the
the
timing
of
the
bus
routes
settle
down
within
a
matter
of
a
couple
of
days.
I
hope
that
answers
that
question.
Mr
bush.
AE
Yes,
in
terms
of
some
of
the
delays
that
you
were
talking
about
like.
G
AE
What
is
like
the
longest
delay
in
terms
of
during
the
these
last
couple
weeks.
U
Well,
I
we
didn't,
with
the
exception,
maybe
one
or
two
exceptions
or
or
a
very
small
number
of
exceptions,
that
there
weren't
delays
associated
with
the
routing
times.
The
delays
that
we
get
the
first
couple
of
days
are
usually
in
in
there
they're,
really
in
two
different
areas.
One
is
just
buses
that
are
late
for
one
reason
or
another,
but
you
also
have,
in
the
first
several
days
a
situation
where
every
driver
is
going
a
little
slow,
they're
taking
a
little
more
time
at
each
stop
their
parents
asking
questions
at
the
door.
U
AE
U
The
response
well
so
you're
talking
about
not
not
how
do
we
respond
with
the
contractor,
but
how
we
communicate
to
the
parents
right
for
years.
It
hasn't
been,
it
hasn't
been
good,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
now
is
to
is
is
a
a
greater
flow
of
information
from
the
contractors
to
our
office
and
then
information
from
our
office
to
to
the
communications
office,
so
that
we
can
implement
a
much
more
effective
communication
that
hey
your
bus
is
going
to
be
late
or
we
know
the
bus
is
going
to
be
late.
So.
U
U
There
there
there
were
a
couple,
not
not
the
hour
delay,
but
there
are.
There
are
some
delays,
and,
and
generally
that
happens
in
the
afternoon-
and
it
happens
sometimes-
and
it
varies
various
reasons
why
it
happens.
Let
me
give
you
the
the
one
that
we
have
no
control
over
first
week
of
school
most
well.
U
No,
I
shouldn't
say
most
many
principals
will
keep
the
buses
in
the
lot
for
an
inordinate
amount
of
time,
for
a
very
good
reason,
which
is
we
want
to
make
sure
every
student
is
on
the
correct
bus
before
we
let
the
buses
go
so
on
during
the
first
week
of
school,
sometimes
into
the
second
week.
You
have
buses
that
are
late
to
subsequent
schools
because
of
the
fact
that
folks
in
the
afternoon
have
been
very,
very
careful
the
kids
get
on
the
right
bus.
So
that's
that's
one
situation.
U
Another
situation
is
just
is
just
that
the
timing
has
not
been
estimated
correctly
and
the
bus
is
getting
to
the
next
school
way.
We
we
try
to
identify
those
as
soon
as
possible
and
through
a
process
of
triage
and
we
try
to
take
care
of
the
most
serious
ones
first.
So
if
we
know
that
a
bus
because
of
scheduling
reasons
is
arriving
at
a
subsequent
school
late,
let's
say
half
an
hour
late
and
there's
another
bus,
that's
arriving
15
minutes
late.
We
use
a
triage
process
that
says
the
half
an
hour.
U
V
There
is,
there
is
a
third
condition,
mr
butcher,
and
that's
the
one
that
deals
with
the
driver
shortage
at
some
contractors.
So
if,
if
the
contractor
does
not
have
a
sufficient
number
of
drivers
to
cover
all
the
routes,
they
do
what
they,
what
they
call
as
a
double
run,
so
they
will,
they
will
complete
one
entire
full
circle,
come
back
to
the
school,
pick
up
the
second
contingent
of
children
and
deliver
them
clearly
that
is
outside
of
the
bounds
of
the
contract.
V
But
that's
what
they've
done,
given
the
circumstances
that
they
were
faced
with,
what
we
do
is
two
things
one.
Obviously
we
have
a
mechanism
that
that
liquidated
damages
are
assigned
to
the
contractor
that
that
doesn't
help
the
situation.
What
does
help
the
situation
is
con?
We
reach
out
to
the
contractor,
obviously
express
our
concern
regarding
that.
We
encourage
them
to
contract,
to
contact
other
contractors
that
may
have
spare
bus
drivers
that
they
can
temporarily
hire
to
service
them.
V
That's
a
that's
a
commonality
we
determine
from
them
if
they
are
fully
utilizing
all
of
their
staff,
so,
for
example,
sometimes
the
owner
the
other
office
employees
other
employees
of
that
bus
contracting
firm,
are
in
fact,
cdl
drivers.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
all
the
folks
that
they
could
possibly
have
out
on
the
road
behind
the
wheel
and
the
third
thing
we
ascertain
because
folks
are
continuously
getting
certified
and
certificated
by
the
state
agency
and
then
by
the
county
to
be
bus
drivers.
We
confirm
with
them.
R
So
we
heard
in
testimony
in
the
last
meeting
that
there
is
a
an
app
or
apps
available
to
help
with
communication
and
tracking
of
the
buses.
Have
we
had
an
opportunity
as
a
district,
to
look
at
that.
G
So
I
did
take-
I
I
have
taken
some
time
over
the
last
two
weeks
to
do
some
very
preliminary
exploration
about
the
apps
that
are
out
there.
There
was
one
in
particular
that
was
mentioned
at
in
front
of
this
board
several
weeks
ago,
and
so
I
went
with
that
one
as
a
sort
of
a
common
place
to
start.
G
There
are
two
pieces
to
that
puzzle.
The
first
is
for
the
app
to
work
each
of
the
vehicles.
The
buses
in
this
case
have
to
be
equipped
with
gps,
and
so
it
was
mentioned
that
another
county
has
this
app
and
the
parents
are
able
to
monitor
the
the
comings
and
goings
of
the
buses
and
the
timing,
those
that
is
a
school
system
that
owns
all
of
their
buses
and
therefore
has
installed
gps
systems
on
all
their
buses.
G
G
Some
of
those
contractors
do
have
gps
most
do
not
so
it
needs
the
gps
system
installed
on
the
bus
first.
The
second
piece
is
once
the
gps
is
installed.
Then
you
buy
this
product
that
allows
you
to
communicate
through
the
gps.
With
this
app,
the
app,
certainly
as
it
was
reported,
doesn't
cost
the
parent
anything,
but
the
school
system
does
so.
It
is
a
per
vehicle
charge
and
so
an
average
cost
that
I
was
able
to
work
out
with.
G
One
of
these
is
about
33
per
vehicle,
that's
out
on
the
road,
and
so,
if
we've
got
400
buses
out
on
the
road,
that's
over
13
000
per
month
to
maintain
that
connection
between
the
gps
on
the
bus
and
the
signal
that
this
app
is
connected
to.
V
U
AA
Thank
you,
madam
president,
if
I
could
just
piggyback
on
mr
reinhardt's
question
about
the
gps,
do
we
know
and-
and
I
certainly
understand,
700
buses,
but
do
we
know
if
that
capability
exists
for
the
special
education
buses?
Mr
shaknovich,
you
mentioned
the
the.
I
know
we
have
a
route
that
goes
up
to
timonium.
For
instance,
do
parents
have
that
ability
by
using
an
app
for
special
education
students.
V
If
it
is
on
one
of
the
55
lyft
assist
buses
that
we
operate,
we
do
have
gps
on
those
again.
We
do
not
have
the
the
app
secured.
We
have
special
ed
buses
that
are
not
run
by
our
publicly
owned
buses,
however,
and
to
the
extent
that
they
do
or
don't
have
gps
that
would
be
dependent
on
our
contractors.
We
only
have
two:
we've
got
over
10
contractors,
only
two
of
them
to
our
knowledge,
use
gps
on
the
bulk
of
their
vehicles
and
the
other
contractors.
V
AA
For
that,
thank
you
and
I
I
certainly
appreciate
the
cost.
That's
there
and
I
I
just
hope
that,
as
we
continue
this
dialogue,
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
happen.
I
I
mean
I,
I
travel
a
lot
and
you
know
I
live
on
uber
and
it's
just
so
easy
to
see
where
that
driver
is
how
how
quickly
you
know
he's
going
to
be
here
in
three
minutes
two
and
a
half
minutes
two
minutes
90
seconds.
AA
We
got
to
get
there
yep
and-
and
you
know,
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
that
can
happen
soon.
If,
if
I
can,
I
know
mr
butcher
was
talking
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
some
of
the
trials
and
tribulations
of
the
first
couple
weeks.
AA
U
In
general,
yes,
now
are
there
still
a
couple
of
problems
that
we're
working
on
this
week?
Yes,
we
are,
but
we
anticipate
that
they
would
be
solid
by
this
week.
AA
AA
These
students
are
getting
to
school
before
the
first
bell.
I
I
think
if
we
go
into
october
and
again
outside
of
three
standard
deviations
away,
I
I
mean
I
always
get
you
know.
Fort
meade
has
an
issue
that
we
can't
control,
or
you
know,
175
has
a
hiccup
that
that
is
just
in
you
know
abnormal
thing.
If
we're
going
into
october
and
kids
aren't
getting
score
on
time,.
V
There
is
one
other
wild
card,
mr
gilland,
and
that
really
has
to
do
with
with
two
things
I
mean
I
mr
douglas
alluded
to
it,
but
it
is
actually
more
serious
than
that
I
mean,
as
the
economy
improves.
V
We
are
increasingly
seeing
two
things
either
folks,
don't
initially
want
to
become
bus
drivers
because
they
have
better
opportunities,
possibly
better
paying
opportunities
and
remember
most
bus
drivers
are
not
full-time
they're
they're,
you
know
by
the
hour,
and
they
are
not
making
a
full
and
full
eight
hours.
So
we
have
less
and
less
people
as
economy
improves
and
more
opportunities
exist
outside
to
initially
want
to
become
bus
drivers,
public
school
bus
drivers.
V
The
second
piece
is,
for
example,
as
the
construction
economy
continues
to
accelerate,
etc
the
seat
the
federal
cdl
license
that
they
hold
is
a
is
a
valuable
commodity.
There's
a
a
value
stored
in
that
federally
issued
license
and
if
reliable,
contracting
or
or
any
of
the
big
players
need
more
cdl
drivers.
AA
I
before
I,
I
had
to
resign
from
the
board
of
directors
for
anne
arundel
workforce
development
corporations
to
join
this
board,
and
you
know
I
would
just
say
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
been
explored
and
I
know
obviously
some
of
these
are
contractors
that
we
we
don't
necessarily
have
exact
control
over
from
a
hiring
perspective,
but
I,
I
think,
a
partnership
with
aawdc
or
we
we
can
arrange
it.
You
know
the
state
department
of
labor.
I
might
be
able
to
help
with
that
a
little
bit.
AA
I
I
just
think
we've
got
to
you
know,
forgive
the
old
adage
think
outside
the
box.
I
think
we
need
to
throw
the
box
away
and
just
start
to
figure
out
how
to
resolve
this,
because
I
know
if
we're
having
the
problem
prince,
george's,
howard,
montgomery,
you
know,
the
the
biggies
are
having
the
problem
as
well,
and
I
don't
know
you
know
what
the
thought
leadership
is
in
this
area.
AA
But
these
challenges,
I
know,
are
widespread
and
and
I'm
just
hoping
that
the
gurus
of
all
of
the
thought
leadership
can
come
together
and
figure
out
what
a
short-term
solution
is.
Certainly,
we
all
want
the
economy
to
to
remain
robust,
and
you
know,
obviously
you
know
some
things
benefit
when
the
economy
dips,
but
I
I
just
feel
like
we've
got
to
get
ahead
of
this.
We
really
do.
V
And
I
really
love
that
observation,
because
in
fact
you
know
they
check
the
box,
not
that
there
are
other
boxes
unchecked,
but
I
have
personally
met
with
miss
mussog.
You
know:
executive
director
of
aedc
we've
met
with
workforce
development.
We
have
attended
some
of
their
recruitment
activities.
They
are
on
the
lookout
for
us,
and
we've
also
reached
out
to
fort
meade
for
two
reasons.
V
Even
if
it's
coca-cola
bottling
company,
we
know
that
that
business
is
the
kind
of
business
that
has
cdl
certificated
drivers.
We've
asked
aedc
and
workforce
development
to
notify
us
of
that
one
and
to
market
us
as
an
outlet.
So
if
you're
getting
laid
off
from
a
logistics,
trucking
company
workforce
development
has
been
explicitly
asked
to
market
aecps
as
an
opportunity
for
those
individuals
and
then
secondly,
because
some
depending
on
what
their
capacity
is
in
the
military,
some
also
do
have
the
right
initial
cdl
licensure.
V
Now,
certainly
they
may
not
have
the
passenger
endorsement,
but
they
have
the
underlying
foundation
for
that.
So
we've
reached
out
to
the
military
establishment
too.
That,
as
folks
are
retiring,
folks
are
moving
out
the
military.
We
want
them
to
understand
that
we
are
an
opportunity.
Our
contractors
are
an
opportunity
for
them
for
second
career
employment.
AA
One
last
question
I
want
to
be
respectful
because
we
have
a
couple
of
cards
up
here
of
people
want
to
testify,
and
I
know
the
hours
getting
late,
especially
for
some
some
young
ones
in
the
audience
too.
My
last
question,
then
I,
I
obviously
know
the
the
uptick
in
the
economies
you
know
causing
you
know,
issues
with
with
attracting
and
and
hiring
bus
drivers,
but
are
we
seeing
anywhere
where
there
is
a
supply
of
of
potential
drivers,
but
they
they
are
not
being
able
to
pass
the
screening.
V
The
the
the
bar
is
very
high,
I
mean
there
is
a
there's:
a
federal
bar
there
is
a
state
bar,
etc,
and
it's
more
there's.
You
know:
physicals,
there's
drug
screening,
there's
disqualifiers
based
on
prior
convictions,
etc.
So
there's
a
long
list
of
of
items
that
would
disqualify
a
potential
driver,
but
those
are
in
either
the
federal
statute
or
in
this
in
the
two-state
statutes.
Part
of
its
within
msde
and
part
of
it
is
within
the
department
of
transportation
here
and
not.
U
AB
Yeah,
thank
you
just
briefly.
I'm
just
thinking
about
this
app
issue,
and
you
know
I
I
in
my
fourth
year
now
of
sending
my
oldest
child
back
and
forth
to
school
every
day
on
a
public
school
bus.
I
don't
know
what
I
would
possibly
do
with
this
app
like
how
it
would
make
my
life
any
easier
and
to
tell
you
the
truth.
AB
I
have
a
concern
that
if
we
are
going
to
do
something
like
that,
then
we've
got
to
figure
out
some
way
to
have
it
coded
or
limited
or
something
so
that
only
you
know
authorized
guardians
or
something
can
get
access
to
that
route
for
that
child,
because
I
could
see
how
this
would
be
misused.
AB
I
don't
see
how
this
would
make
my
life
any
easier
at
all
as
a
parent
of
a
young
child
and
to
tell
you
the
truth,
I
think
I
would
the
only
misuse
I
could
think
that
I
might
do
with
it
is.
If
I
see
the
buses
running
late,
I'm
gonna
take
that
much
longer
to
get
my
kid
to
the
bus
stop,
which
is
only
going
to
cause
more
delays.
So
I
don't.
AB
V
Your
caution,
ammunition
is,
is
well
placed
because
reviewing
some
of
the
licensure
and
the
disclosure
documents
that
come
with
these
give
us
pause
for
concern.
V
Obviously
we
are
under
federal
requirements
to
protect
information
about
our
students
and
to
protect
our
students
from
certain
kinds
of
of
information,
et
cetera,
and
where
that
information
then
goes
so
the
privacy
and
the
confidentiality
elements
of
some
of
these
technology
company
contracts
are
of
such
a
nature
that
they
would
actually
preclude
us
to
begin
to
even
utilize
them
at
the
outset,
and
then
beyond
that,
then
it's
every
single
thing
that
you
just
mentioned,
mr
grant.
A
So
now
having
children
that
ride
four
different
buses,
I
get
kind
of
a
microcosm
of
the
the
good
and
the
challenges
that
come
out.
So
one
one
issue
that
we
saw
that
on
one
of
our
buses,
and
then
I
heard
from
other
parents
where
that
there
were
some
buses
that
were
overcrowded
the
beginning
of
school.
How
do
we
estimate
how
many
students
will
ride
a
bus.
U
Well,
in
the
past
and
right
now,
it's
historic
ridership.
If,
if
a
neighborhood
usually
yielded
25
elementary
school
students,
we
would
use
that
as
we
believe,
they're
going
to
be
25..
Obviously
with
what
mr
sheknova
said
about
the
growth
of
the
county,
those
those
are
not
as
as
reliable
as
as
they
were
in
a
stagnant
population
as
we
as
we
become
more
familiar
with
this
program,
and
it's
a
program
generates
more
data
for
us.
U
You
can
pretty
much
predict
at
the
middle
school
that
if
there
are
50
kids
in
the
neighborhood,
you'll
have
50
riders,
so
so
between
the
three
different
levels
it
changes,
but
if,
as
we
collect
data
using
the
new
system,
if
we
find
out
that
the
coefficient
would
be
70
percent
of
the
kids
in
this
neighborhood
generally
ride,
then
we
we
have
on
the
map
which
is
new
for
us.
We
actually
know
how
many
kids
in
the
neighborhood
and
if
we
can
come
up
historically
with
a
coefficient
of
how
many
normally
ride.
U
A
So
so
do
when
you
find
I'm
certain
you
track
this
when
it
comes
to
buses
being
delayed
or
late
or
something
right,
do
you
find
that
certain
contractors
have
more
issues
than
others
or
certain
riders?
Is
that
something
you'll
track
and
address
with
the
with
the
different
contractors?
Yes,.
U
In
fact,
one
contractor
last
year
was
had
serious
driver
shortage
problems
this
year.
The
two
that
we've
identified
are
not
the
one
that
had
the
problem
last
year.
Now,
coincidentally,
he
raised
his
salaries
for
this
year,
so
so
it
it
there's
a
real
high
correlation
between
the
salary
going
up
and
not
having
a
driver
shortage.
But
yes,
they
that
that's
that
from
year
to
year,
goes
from
contractor
to
contractor.
U
If
we
have
one
that
is
chronically
every
year,
one
of
the
problems
we'll
start
taking
contracts.
So
we
we
try
to
take,
take
work
from
them
to
somebody
else
and.
V
We,
in
fact
do
that
we
do
we'll
take
routes
away
from
if
a
contractor
cannot
perform
by
change
order.
We
have
the
ability-
and
ms
reinhardt's
asked
this
question
in
prior
times,
during
contract
award
periods,
we
have
the
ability
to
either
add
con,
add
routes
to
a
contract
or
delete.
So
in
this
case,
if
we
have
a
poorly
performing
contractor,
we
can
take
that
route
away,
that
bus
away,
etc
from
that
contractor
by
change
order
and
then
add
it
to
another
contractor.
But
again
you
got
to
make
sure
that
the
other
contractor
has
a
driver.
V
A
Now
another
issue
that
we
came
up
and-
and
I
shared
with
the
superintendent
and
that
I
appreciate
mr
mosher
and
mr
douglas-
that
has
been
corrected-
the
communication
that
was
coming
about
about
bus
changes
because
we
were
having
an
issue
with
one
of
our
buses,
and
I
said
if
this
is
happening
to
our
bus-
it's
probably
happening
elsewhere
in
the
county,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
the
increase
that
was
given
for
for
communication
coming
out
the
the
letters
and
the
parent
connect
that
came
out.
That
was
very
helpful.
A
The
second
week
after
we
had
some
delays.
Now
I
will
say
something:
I've
seen
exactly
what
you're
saying
that
the
new
software
generated
some
new
start
times
and
some
new
pickup
times,
and
then
we
found
that
in
reality,
the
they
couldn't
be
met
in
that
route.
One
of
out
of
my
four
buses
two
have
been
on
time
perfectly
every
day
and
one
the
first
week.
A
We
thought
it
was
a
little
optimistic
of
how
late
they
were
picking
up
and
we
found
it
was
because
of
traffic
getting
from
where
a
magnet
bus,
so
they
traveled
farther
so
getting
from
our
house
to
the
school,
was
taking
longer
than
I
think
what
the
the
software
had
optimistically
anticipated
and
so
that
that
was
changed.
But
I
will
say
it's
made
a
big
difference.
My
my
oldest
is
now
catching
the
bus
30
minutes
later
than
he
did
two
years
ago.
A
A
Right
so
that
was
very
positive,
he's
getting
more
sleep
and
so
that
we've
seen
that
the
issues
that
have
come
about
at
our
bus
stop
have
been
fixed
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
and
I
appreciate
that
I
echo
what
mr
gillan
said
that
I
expect
the
first
couple
of
weeks.
But
the
big
concern
is:
are
they
being
addressed
and
coming
through
and
we're
seeing
on
our
end
that
it
is
and
we're
also
seeing
from
the
emails
we're
receiving
from
parents
that
things
are
are
being
remedied
as
well.
A
Are
there
any
other
board
questions
or
comments
at
this
time?
So
we
do
have
some
cards
from
public
testimony
and
I
appreciate
y'all
being
so
patient.
I
know
this
is
late,
so
suzanne
coleman,
cara
morris
and
troy
sig
cigna,
sorry.
AH
Good
evening
my
name
is
suzanne
coleman.
My
statements
are
regarding
middle
school
walkers
to
lindale.
We
live
in
linthicum
heights
on
east
maple,
road,
just
east
of
the
light
rail
stop
the
cutoff
for
middle
school
walkers
is
a
mile
and
a
half
surrounding
howard,
county
and
baltimore
county
are
one
mile.
AH
AH
AH
AH
We
are
the
only
community
in
anne
arundel
county,
where
children
are
expected
to
cross
train
tracks
two
times
a
day
to
get
to
and
from
school
we
say
no
children
of
any
age
should
be
crossing
those
tracks
on
foot
elementary
school
kids
at
les
on
the
west
side
get
a
bus
to
school
despite
being
less
than
the
required
mile
distance,
but
for
middle
school
kids
traveling
in
the
opposite
direction.
It's
considered.
Okay,
this
is
the
reasoning
is
not
logical.
AH
Our
delegate
and
superintendent
toured
the
area.
In
august
the
train
was
out
of
service
due
to
track
washout,
and
always
uncharacteristically
quiet
in
addition
to
the
inherent
risks
in
taking
this
path,
are
the
persistent
nuisance
and
criminal
elements
brought
in
by
the
light
rail
residents,
including
myself,
have
witnessed
loitering
and
homelessness,
open
drug
and
alcohol
used
in
intoxication
public
urination,
chronic
panhandling
and
trash
picking,
high
and
passed
out
drug
addicts,
distribute
and
disturbances
of
the
peace.
AH
I
propose
a
cost-effective
and
effortless
solution
to
the
serious
situation,
make
an
exception
and
allow
the
students
who
live
east
of
the
light
rail
tracks,
but
less
than
a
mile
and
a
half
from
school
to
ride
the
bus.
This
is
the
equivalent
of
what
is
now
allowed
for
elementary
school
kids
on
the
west
side
use
the
already
existing
bus
stops
on
east
maple
and
north
camp
mead
roads.
AH
This
would
require
no
effort
from
the
county.
No
added
buses
or
drivers.
No
added
stops
no
route
alterations.
Aacps
would
merely
need
to
allow
these
children
in
this
catch-22
to
step
on
the
closest
bus.
There
are
plenty
of
seats.
The
cost
involved
is
already
committed.
It's
safer
to
walk
a
few
yards
than
requiring
kids
to
walk
around
the
route
put
forth
by
aacps
safety
is
everyone's
concern.
I
presume
further.
It
is
a
colossal
waste
of
taxpayer
resources
to
exclude
these
children
from
riding
these
buses.
AH
I've
sent
many
emails
to
the
department
of
transportation
and
receive
tone-deaf
policy
responses.
They
are
now
ignoring
my
emails.
I
implore
the
board
to
carefully
consider
this
difficult
situation
and
that
approximately
60
families
in
linthicum
are
forced
to
deal
with
daily
for
the
sake
and
safety
of
our
children,
and
I
thank
you
and
I
apologize
for
my
nervous
voice,
no
problem.
Thank
you.
Miss
coleman.
B
I
would
ask
the
board
to
consider
the
totality
of
the
circumstances
under
which
our
kids
are
expected
to
walk
from
the
east
side
of
lenthicum
to
lindell
middle
school.
When
you
put
together
the
train
tracks,
the
illegal
activity
to
which
mr
man
referred
to
and
the
secluded
wooded
area,
it's
hard
to
believe
what
we're
requiring
our
11
year
olds
to
do
in
every
single
day.
I
understand
that
the
boards
or
the
the
public
schools
way
of
addressing
the
issue
is
to
provide
crossing
guards
at
key
locations.
B
Crossing
guards
are
important,
but
what
are
they
expected
to
do
in
the
moment
in
the
moment?
In
the
face
of
illegal
activity?
Also,
there
are
no
crossing
guards
in
the
secluded
wooded
path
that
makes
up
part
of
the
approved
route.
If
safety
is
truly
a
priority,
then
please
make
an
exception
to
the
1.5
mile
threshold
and
allow
affected
kids
to
ride
the
already
existing
bus
that
stops
on
east
maple
road.
AI
AI
We
got
a
letter
in
the
mail
saying
he
can't
ride
the
bus
anymore,
because
he's
over
first
grade
he's
point
seven
miles
from
the
school
on
a
heavily
trafficked
road.
They
wanted
to
go
over
guard
rails
down
back
roads
with
no
sidewalks,
and
we
we
tried
to
contact
everybody.
We
could
from
the
department
of.
AI
Pictures
we
mapped
out
distances,
but
then
we
signed
petitions,
but
every
time
we
get
go
to
the
board
of
transportation,
they
say
well,
it
would
take
you
guys
say
to
get
this
bus
reinstated.
AI
It's
pretty
upsetting
us.
I
have
documentation
here
that
I
would
like
to
provide
you
at
the
end,
but
basically
they
sent
us
a
cease
and
desist
letter.
When
the
blog
across
the
street
watch,
I
can
see
from
my
house,
my
son
cannot
get
on
the
bus.
He
has
to
walk.
Is
what
they're
telling
us
that's
.76
miles
over
our
guardrail,
and
these
are
elementary
school
kids
they're
six-year-olds.
AI
So
we're
just
here
to
ask
that
you
guys
look
into
the
matter
and
we
thank
you
for
your
time.
G
AI
Have
we
almost
documented
there's
other
bus
stops
and
where
there
are
less
than
the
0.1
mile,
but
they
get
a
bus
because
they
have
to
cross
the
ball,
but
our
sid
slapped
across
the
ball.
They
want
us
to
backtrack.
Do
it
through
a
through
the
neighborhoods
two
neighborhoods
and
come
back
down
onto
ball
to
a
crossing
guard.
But
it's
over
a
mile.
G
So
so
there
are
a
couple,
so
the
short
answer
is
no,
but
several
things
have
been
brought
up
by
the
three
speakers.
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
parse
that
out
a
little
bit
so
in
terms
of
determining
where
the
bus
stops
are
going
to
be
and
the
times
they're
going
to
come
and
go
that's
under
my
purview
and
that's
what
our
staff
does.
G
What
was
mentioned
here
is
when
it
talks
when,
when
we
talk
about
or
when
it's
brought
up
the
distances
of
walkers
versus
riders,
and
that's
where
this
board
would
have
more
input
and
say
in
terms
of
the
distances
where
you
heard
that
there
are
some
counties
that
are
so.
We
divide
ours
between
elementary
and
secondary,
which
is
middle
school
and
high
school,
whether
it's
a
mile
or
a
mile
and
a
half
where
you
have
to
walk
or
you
get
bus
service
and
that's
a
decision
this
board
over
the
years.
G
AE
AE
AB
So
this
is
in
partial
response
to
mr
butcher's
question,
so
the
answer
to
the
question
was
that
the
board
doesn't
control
which
bus
goes
where
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
we
can
certainly
direct
dr
alato
to
report
publicly
on
the
outcome
of
the
issues
that
were
raised
tonight
and
I'm
certainly
making
that
request.
I
mean,
if
we're
having
transparency,
you
know.
If
we're
going
to
have
public
questions,
we
need
to
have
public
answers.
AB
So
I'm
I'm
asking
you,
dr
alato
at
our
next
meeting
to
to
say
what
the
outcome
is
of
each
of
these
things.
For
example,
what
I
understood
about
miss
coleman's
requesting
completely
sensible.
So
if
that
can't
be
done,
then
I
think
that
answer
needs
to
be
given
publicly
an
explanation
as
to
why
it
can't
be
done.
K
A
So,
and
just
to
be
clear,
dr
alato,
when
the
individual
issues
come
up
like
this,
these
these
issues,
as
with
anything
in
the
board,
they
can
also
there's
an
appeal
process
that
that
someone
could
go
through
about
a
bus,
stop
or
something
with
that,
so
that
could
work
its
way
through
the
system
as
well.
If
this,
we
don't
receive
many
of
the
complaints
that
come
through,
because
the
staff
handles
them
and
directs
them.
So
we
don't
get
reported
every
time
something.
AB
J
Y
G
If
we
talk
about
the
resolution,
so
I'm
not
familiar
with
the
high
point,
so
I'm
glad
to
look
into
that,
and
I
thought
it
made
it
abundantly
clear
that
I
would
begin
to
look
into
that
process.
I
thought
I
did
that
I
was
not
familiar
with
it
and
I
would
look
into
it.
I
am
very
familiar
with
lindale
middle
school
walking
situation.
G
As
was
reported,
I
went
out
with
not
only
delegate
vital
but
with
the
director
of
the
crossing
guards
that
is
under
the
sanction
of
the
police
department,
as
well
as
the
northern,
the
new
northern
district
commander
and
several
of
his
deputies
and
we
met.
We
walked
the
route
we
discussed,
what
the
various
options
were
and
as
was
reported,
it
was
during
the
summer
and
at
the
time,
because
of
some
flooding
prior
to
that
the
light
rail
station
was
closed.
G
I
since
went
back
out
tuesday.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
changed
my
schedule
purposely,
so
nobody
knew
that
I
was
going
to
be
going
out
if
they
saw
my
calendar,
they
think
I
was
going
to
be
somewhere
else
and
I
went
out
and
parked
the
car
and
I
went
walked.
I
introduced
myself
to
the
two
crossing
guards.
G
I
learned
what
I
could
about
the
situation
and
we
we
have
families
that
live
within
a
one
within
1.5
miles
on
the
east
side
of
the
tracks
that
are
within
the
walking
distance
as
set
by
policy
and
regulatory
language
that
are
walking
to
lindale.
Are
they
crossing
camp
mead
road?
And
the
answer
is
yes,
with
a
crossing
guard?
G
Are
they
crossing
light
rail
tracks?
Yes,
with
a
crossing
guard?
Are
they
walking
down
a
pathway
that
is
partially
wooded?
Yes,
that
then
ends
at
music
lane,
where
we
asked
at
that
time
where,
where,
in
previous
years
there
had
not
been
a
crossing
guard,
we
asked
them
to
add
a
crossing
guard
which
the
police
department
have
done,
and
I
checked
to
see
that
all
the
crossing
guards
were
there.
I
spoke
to
two
of
the
three
to
determine
the
issues.
G
The
safety
to
see
if
they
had
any
suggestions
or
concerns,
I
believe
it
to
be
a
safe,
walking
route
from
the
neighborhood
to
cross
the
street
with
a
crossing
guard
at
the
fire
station,
where
the
royal
farms
is
that
was
mentioned
in
the
testimony
across
the
light
rail
tracks,
with
a
crossing
guard
and
down
the
pathway
to
another
crossing
guard
that
gets
them
across
music
lane
and
up
to
the
school.
Where
then,
there
are
two
crossing
guards
at
right
in
front
of
the
school,
so
I
believe
that
it
is
well
covered.
G
I
believe
it
to
be
a
safe
walking
route.
I
am
not
recommending
to
this
board
that
we
changed
that
we
change
anything
with
that
group.
Yes,
are
there
buses
that
run
through
the
neighborhood,
which
is
being
suggested
that
students
could
get
on
the
answers?
Yes,
but
then
that
would
be
the
case
for
any
other
neighborhood
within
a
1.5
m
1.5
mile
radius,
where
there
are
buses
that
are
not
completely
full,
where
students
are
walking
to
school
and
they're
passed
by
a
bus
that
has
seats.
R
Thank
you,
madam
president,
dr
alado,
to
the
best
of
your
knowledge,
are
there
any
other
schools
that
that
require
students
to
cross
the
tracks.
R
I'm
aware
of
okay,
so
this
is
a
unique
situation.
Then,
indeed
do
we
have
we
heard
in
testimonies
approximately
60
families
that
would
live
in
that
zone
between
not
far
enough
to
ride
a
bus
but
would
still
have
to
cross
the
tracks.
R
G
I
was
there
in
a
snapshot
in
time
and,
like
I
said
I
was
there
during
the
summer,
I
didn't
see
any
students,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
went
back
after
school
had
gotten
started
to
see
if
students
were
into
a
routine
the
two
crossing
guards
that
I
introduced
myself
to
and
talked
to
said
that,
as
of
now,
there
are
zero
middle
school
students
coming
from
that
east
side
and
crossing
the
tracks
with
the
assistance
of
the
crossing
guard
in
the
morning
they
say
they're,
seeing
maybe
two
or
three
students
in
the
afternoon
middle
school
students.
G
But
I
I
choose
my
words
carefully.
Thank
you
because
while
I
was
there,
an
elementary
school
student
did
cross
the
tracks
with
their
father.
So
on
the
west
side-
and
this
was
a
family
choice-
the
father
likes
to
walk
his
son
to
school
and
he
walked
his
son
across
the
tracks.
With
with
the
use
of
the
crossing
guard
across
canton
road,
with
the
use
of
the
crossing
guard
and
then
up
to
the
elementary
school.
And
then
the
father
returned
and
went
before.
But
that's
a
that's
a
choice
and.
R
For
our
community
high
school
north
county,
that's
more
than
a
mile
and
a
half
from
the
track,
so
those
students
wouldn't
be
impacted
right.
So
it's
really
just
our
our
17
families.
R
R
Okay,
so
I
have
reviewed
the
policy
just
personally,
and
the
language
is
a
bit
vague
with
consideration
of
various
various
hazards
on
a
walking
path.
AB
I
I
want
to
thank
mr
reinhardt
for
his
question
because
I
think
when
he
asked
are
there
any
other
paths
that
involve
crossing
train
tracks
and
the
answer
to
that
is
no.
That
provides
a
very
logical
reason
why
this
would
not
lead
to
the
parade
of
horribles
and
open
up
some
can
of
worms
where
we
have
to
do
this
for
every
single
route.
There's
a
special
natural
geographical
issue
that
needs
to
be
taken
into
account.
AB
A
AF
Thank
you,
madam
president.
I
second
you,
mr
reinhard,
on
bringing
that
policy
up
and
I
think
we
should
maybe
also
review
the
walking
distance
for
elementary
school
students,
specifically
because,
as
brought
up
at
the
meeting
tonight
and
previously,
there's
been
like
problems
with
the
distances
for
elementary
school
students,
and
I
know
personally,
I
would
not
trust
my
little
sister-
that's
seven
years
old
to
memorize
a
0.76
mile
walk.
So
I
think
that's
something
we
should
look
at.
Maybe.
R
I
I
concur
when
we
have
our
our
policy
committing
a
committee
meeting
on
the
17th
would
be
possible
to
bring.
I
know
we
don't
like
to
mix
dollars
with
safety,
but
it
is
our
role
to
also
be
fiscally
responsible
with
taxpayer
funds.
Would
it
be
possible
to
get
a
financial
breakdown
of
of
costs
for
each
of
the
different
walking
distance
for
our
our
various.
A
AJ
AJ
So
when
it
snows
they'll
be
walking
in
the
street
past
a
registered
sex
offender's
house
down
the
wall
highway,
who
has
a
shoulder
that
is
no
more
than
a
foot
wide.
That's
a
major
road
in
our
little
area
when
it
snows
it's
supposed
to
be
a
bad
winter.
This
year
those
kids
are
going
to
be
in
the
street.
AJ
My
six-year-old
son
will
be
walking
in
the
street
of
a
traffic
heavy
track
area.
The
school
is
also
under
construction,
which,
with
any
school
under
construction.
It's
a
mess.
Currently
high
point
is
gorgeous
on
the
inside.
It's
a
mess
on
the
outside.
The
parking
lot
is
restricted,
drop-off
is
restricted,
and
it's
gotten
to
the
point
where
parents
are
kind
of
getting
a
little
desperate
and
stopping
onto
a
highway
and
letting
their
students
out,
which
is
extremely
dangerous
period,
taking
away
the
bus
stop.
We
have
probably
20
kids
here
around
that
bus.
Stop.
AJ
It
is
active
bus,
stop
the
bus
is
halfway
empty.
The
bus
stop
is
for
kindergarten
pre-k.
Only
apparently
because
it's
been
riding
this
bus
for
years.
So
picking
these
kids
up
does
not
add
any
ex
any
expense
at
all.
The
kids
have
been
doing
it
for
years.
The
stops
are
active,
they're,
regular
with
them
being
the
way
they
are,
there's
no
crossing
guards.
AJ
So
the
kids
will
cross
over
nightly
road
within
the
crossing
guard
because
it's
been
a
bus
stop
and
when
they
get
over
to
woodlawn,
which
is
the
part
of
the
route
they're
still
in
a
crossing
guard,
because
it's
been
a
bus,
stop
we
haven't
had
them,
we
haven't
needed
them,
so
they're
going
to
be
needed,
so
making
them
walkers
is
at
an
expense.
AJ
So
I
would
really
really
like
them
not
to
walk
it's.
It's
going
to
be
problems,
it's
going
to
cause
more
parents,
dropping
the
kids
off
more
parents,
picking
them
up,
and
then
we
have
parents
who
have
a
kindergartener
and
a
third
grader.
So
one
of
the
kids
are
riding
the
bus,
the
other
one
has
to
walk.
AJ
AJ
AE
AJ
AJ
AJ
Because
the
transportation
sent
a
letter
to
the
bus
stop
prior
to
ours,
that
is
on
the
ball,
highway
and
retracted
it
because
their
stop
is
a
valid
bus.
Stop
because
of
the
danger
of
throw
a
highway.
So
those
kids
will
continue
to
be
picked
up,
so
they
had
to
exempt
those
parents
and
let
those
parents
know.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
we
shouldn't
have
sent
you
the
letter.
We
take
it
back.
Your
kids
can
still
ride
the
bus,
but
the
rest
of
you
know
your
children
cannot.
A
A
Z
AK
Hi,
my
name
is
joe
viatore
and
I
work
with
the
magnet
programs
here
in
anne
arundel
county
public
schools,
I'm
the
teacher
specialist
great
great.
So
where
were
you
born?
So
I
was
raised
in
salem
massachusetts
and
I've
been
in
this
area
in
the
baltimore
area
for
about
30
years
now,
salem.