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This
workshop
is
open
to
the
public.
However,
there
is
no
public
testimony.
This
workshop
is
being
broadcast,
live
on
aacps
tv,
which
can
be
found
on
channel
96
on
comcast
and
broad
stripe,
and
channel
36
on
verizon.
High
definition
broadcast
can
be
seen
on
channel
996
on
comcast
channel
496
on
broad
stripe
and
channel
1961
on
verizon.
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Thank
you,
madam
president.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
board
for
allowing
us
this
opportunity
to
share
some
information
with
you
about
our
charter
and
contract
schools.
The
information
we're
going
to
share
is
fairly
brief,
as
you
have
requested,
and
then
we'll
leave
time
for
your
questions
and
answers
sitting
before
you
is.
Mr
pat
crane,
mr
crane
is
our
director
of
alternative
education,
of
which
our
cart
charter
and
contract
schools
fall
under
his
leadership.
C
He
is
a
font
of
knowledge
with
regard
to
cut
with
charter
schools
and
contracts,
not
only
here
in
anne
arundel
county,
but
around
the
state
he's
well
recognized
as
one
of
the
leaders
in
supporting
charter
and
contract
schools
he's
going
to
walk
you
through
some
information
in
general,
about
the
laws
and
how
we,
how
charters
and
contracts
schools
are
governed
and
then
how
we
particularly
support.
Those
schools
also
know
that
there
aren't,
as
you
know
like
I
think
most
of
you
know
there
aren't
a
lot
of
charter
schools
in
the
state
of
maryland.
C
There
are
just
a
handful
of
counties
that
are
supporting
charter
schools
right
now.
We
are
one
of
those
with
probably
the
third
largest
number
behind
baltimore
city
and
prince
george's
county.
We
are
the
next
with
with
with
our
charters
and
contracts,
in
supporting
this
choice
for
students
and
families.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
mr
crane
great.
Thank
you.
E
Dr
lotto
president
ellis
vice
president
schellheim
members
of
the
board.
Again,
my
name
is
pat
crane,
director
of
alternative
programs.
I
think
dr
alado
did
a
great
job
of
kind
of
setting
this
up
tonight
and
I
welcome
the
opportunity
to
provide
as
much
information
as
I
can
to
you
about
charter
and
contract
schools
in
anne
arundel
county.
So
with
that
we
will
so.
E
E
That
is
a
lot
to
2003
and
back
in
2000
installation
was
first
introduced
and
approved.
It
really
was
legislation
that
enabled
school
districts
in
maryland
for
the
first
time
ever
to
authorize
charter
schools,
and
so
that
law
lays
out-
and
it's
been
author
reauthorized
several
times
since
then,
but
it
lays
out
specifically
how
charter
schools
are
to
operate
within
school
districts,
as
well
as
the
maryland
charter,
school
law
charter,
schools
and
contract.
E
E
In
addition
to
the
maryland
charter
law
and
all
regulations
and
laws.
We
also
have
policy
and
regulations
internally,
which
also
help
guide
our
work.
Part
of
the
charter
school
law
requires
that
all
school
districts
have
policies
and
regulations
that
help
guide
the
work
that
we
do
with
our
charter
schools.
E
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
do
have
the
policy
and
regulations
on
the
books
that
really
kind
of
outline,
specifically
our
application
process,
our
hiring
process,
how
our
charter
schools
interact
with
their
facilities,
our
admissions
criteria,
as
well
as
how
charter
schools
are
going
to
comply
with
the
charter
law
and
charter
contract
that
they
have
to
help
additionally
got
our
work.
There's
an
organization
called
naxa
national
association
of
charter
school
authorizers.
E
That
really
has
been
a
huge
help
to
us,
as
we
years
ago,
rolled
out
charter
schools
in
the
district
just
around
their
policies
and
their
procedures
and
how
they
support
local
school
districts
to
help
with
the
authorizing
process.
They've
got
workshops,
they've
got
resources,
we've
been
to
several
of
the
conferences
in
other
states
over
the
last
several
years
and
it's
really
been
kind
of
a
helpful
organization.
So
as
you
all,
as
the
authorizer
in
anne
arundel,
county
are
looking
for
resources
and
and
support.
That
is
our
go-to
organization
as
well.
E
So
I
encourage
you
to
go
check
them
out
and
see
what
they
have
to
offer.
So
I'm
going
to
get
into
some
sp
specifics
about
the
charter
school
law.
Obviously
I'm
not
going
to
spend
the
whole
night
on
it
or
we
could
be
here
for
several
hours,
but
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
some
areas
that
I
think
you
all
might
be
interested
in,
so
who
can
apply
to
open
a
charter
school
so
in
short,
there's
really
four
areas
or
or
groups
that
can
apply
so
a
staff
of
a
public
school
believe
it
or
not.
E
If
enough
staff
got
together
and
wanted
to
submit
an
application
to
turn
their
school
into
a
public
charter
school
by
law,
they
could
do
that
to
date.
I'm
not
sure
anyone
in
the
state
has
taken
them
up
on
that,
but
that
is
legal
and
could
happen
a
parent
or
guardian
of
a
student
who
attends
a
public
school
in
the
county,
a
non-sectarian
non-profit
entity
or
a
non-sectarian
institute
of
higher
ed
in
the
state
or
any
combination
of
those
four.
The
majority
of
applications
that
we
typically
get
are
submitted
by
non-sectarian,
nonprofit
entities.
E
So
to
date
those
are
the
majority
of
applications
we've
seen
in
partnership
with
parents
or
guardians.
Typically,
I
know
there
are
some
institutes
of
higher
ed
within
the
state
of
maryland.
That
do
have
a
hand
in
some
schools,
coppin
state
in
baltimore
city
runs.
A
charter.
School
university
of
maryland
has
a
charter-like
school
in
prince
george's
county
as
well.
So
more.
F
E
Colleges
and
universities
are
getting
into
the
chartering
sector,
so
the
next
slide.
I
think
this
is
important
for
you
all
to
know
who
the
authorizer
is
in
the
state
of
maryland.
So,
according
to
the
charter
school
charter,
school
law,
the
local
board
of
education
is
the
authorizer
within
the
state
of
maryland.
So,
as
you
can
see,
each
of
you
are
up
there
and
represent
the
authorizer
here
for
anne
arundel
county.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
your
role
is
as
the
authorizer
moving
forward,
not
only
with
the
charter
school
process.
E
E
Those
of
you
who
have
been
following
charter
schools
for
years
in
the
state
of
maryland
know
that
that
wording
at
the
beginning
caused
a
lot
of
I'll
just
say:
confusion
around
with
many
districts
that
we're
really
looking
for
the
state
to
clarify
what
that
really
meant,
because
it
that
wording
means
something
different
to
every
jurisdiction
and
thus
charter
schools
are
really
being
funded
unevenly
across
districts
in
the
state
of
maryland.
E
Sorry,
this
mask
is
kind
of
hard
to
talk
through
so
another
aspect
of
the
charter.
School
law
that
is
really
really
important
to
understand
is
is
the
lottery
process
by
law.
All
charter
schools
have
to
run
a
lottery
if
more
students
apply
than
have
seats
available
to
date,
all
of
our
charter,
schools
typically
go
to
lottery.
E
Our
lottery
window
runs
concurrent
with
that
window,
of
which
our
magnet
schools
in
the
county
also
run.
We
found
that
it
was
easier
to
align
the
windows
of
the
charter
school
with
the
magnet
school,
so
the
parents
didn't
have
to
balance
two
different
windows.
When
they
were
looking
at
options
for
students,
they
could
just
look
at
one
window
and
think
about
where
they
wanted
to
have
their
child
apply
within
the
school
choice.
Options.
E
Charter
school
window
typically
opens
in
early
october
and
runs
through
mid
november.
It
runs
through
november
22nd
this
year
and
at
that
point
the
charter
the
window
will
close.
E
We
as
well
as
our
magnet
schools,
send
our
lottery
out
to
be
run
by
a
third
party
vendor
in
terms
of
selectivity.
There
is
no
selectivity
with
charter
school
enrollment,
so
we
cannot
ask
any
specific
questions
about
a
child
if
you
think
about
it
simplistically,
it's
put
your
name
at
a
hat,
and
then
we
send
that
list
out
and
the
gentleman
who
does
our
lottery
basically
picks
the
names
out
of
the
hat
and
that's
who
gets
into
the
school.
E
So
in
addition
to
filling
slots,
there's
also
a
wait
list.
So
when
we
hear
back
from
our
third-party
vendor,
what
he
provides
to
us
is
a
list
of
the
first
50
students
that
say
the
school
is
taking
50
students,
this
list
of
50
students,
and
then
everyone
else
is
on
a
waitlist.
So
if
someone
declines
a
seat,
then
we
would
go
to
the
next
person
on
a
waitlist.
E
Now,
at
the
end
of
that
window
we
don't
close
the
enrollment
portal,
it
remains
open,
but
we
just
tell
parents
that
if
you
apply
late,
you'll
just
automatically
go
to
the
bottom
of
the
waitlist.
So
parents
still
have
an
opportunity,
even
after
the
window
closes
to
get
their
child
into
the
charter
school
portal
and
on
a
waitlist.
E
Another
question
that
we
get
quite
frequently
is
who
are
employees
of
our
charter
schools?
Do
they
have
to
be
employees
of
the
school
district?
Do
they
have
to
be
certified?
Do
they
have
to
be
part
of
the
collective
bargaining
unit?
And
the
answer
is
yes,
our
employees
are
employees
of
anne
arundel,
county
public
schools,
and
they
do
are
required
to
have
the
same
certifications
as
any
other
teacher
in
the
district.
That's
teaching
in
those
same
positions
in
other
schools
and
they
also
follow.
E
E
Usually
it's
around
a
school
day
or
length
of
school
day,
for
example
our
monarch
schools
close
early
on
wednesdays
for
professional
development,
and
they
had
to
work
that
out
with
the
talk
reps
so
that
teachers
were
working
the
same
number
of
hours
as
teachers
in
other
schools
and
tech
agreed
that
we
would
extend
the
other
four
days
of
the
week
to
make
up
for
the
time
when
they
got
out
earlier.
E
Of
where
you
could
negotiate
a
collective
bargaining
within
the
within
the
tax
agreement,
I
also
want
to
add
that,
in
terms
of
the
hiring
process,
all
charter
school
teachers
and
staff
are
hired
through
anne
arundel,
county
public
schools.
So,
while
charter
school
principals
can
go
out
and
they
can
interview
prospective
teachers
eventually,
that
teacher
has
to
apply
to
anne
arundel
county
school
and
the
charter
school
has
to
hire
them
through
aacps
and
there's
a
couple
reasons.
We
do
that
one.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
teacher
holds
all
the
correct
certifications
to
be
hired
in
that
position.
We
have
an
hr
staff.
That
does
that.
It's
also
the
background
check.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
staff
member
goes
through
all
correct
background
checks
as
well,
so
once
a
principal
has
identified
an
individual
that
they
think
would
be
a
good
candidate
for
the
school
they're
up.
E
E
So
the
first
thing
there
is
application.
So
when
we
get
an
application
to
open
a
charter
school
here
in
anne
arundel
county,
there's
a
lengthy
review
process
that
that
application
has
to
go
through
so
once
we
take
it
through
and
I'll
get
more
I'll
get
into
more
specifics
about
what
that
process
looks
like
a
little
late
later
in
this
presentation,
but
just
know
that,
ultimately,
the
approval
or
denial
of
that
application
falls
with
you
all
as
the
authorizer.
E
It
could
be
five
years,
it
could
be
seven
years
it
could
be
ten
years
whatever
we
negotiate
with
that
group,
your
approval
has
to
happen
for
that
contract
to
move
forward
so
by
law
or
by
state
board
of
ed
decision
that
contract
on
a
new
application
should
be
done
no
later
than
30
days
after
approval
from
you
all
the
other
type.
The
only
other
time
you
would
approve
contracts
is
on
renewal
applications
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
So
as
you
as
I
stated,
our
charter
schools
act
on
term
limits,
and
so
eventually
those
terms
are
going
to
be
up
and
when
those
terms
are
up,
we
will
come
before
you
to
ask
you
to
renew
that
application
or
not
to
date
all
of
our
charter.
Schools
and
contract
schools
fortunately
have
all
been
renewed,
but
there
are
times
when
you
know.
E
So
difference
between
revocation
and
non-renewals
and
non-renewal
is
at
the
end
of
a
term
revocation
would
be
in
the
midst
of
a
contract.
So,
for
example,
it's
a
five-year
contract
and
two
years
in
there's
something
that's
happening
so
egregious
at
that
school
that
we
decide.
We
need
to
shut
it
down,
we
would
work.
Obviously,
staff
would
work
with
the
superintendent
and
then
superintendent
would
come
to
you
and
in
a
decision
that
you
all
would
have
to
make
to
vote
to
revocate
a
charter
contract.
A
E
E
But
what
some
governor
governing
boards
choose
to
do
is
to
contract
with
an
operator
to
sort
of
delegate
the
day-to-day
operations
to
that
operator
and
in
anne
arundel
county
right
now
we
have
two
operators,
so
the
children's
guild
alliance
is
the
operator
of
the
three
monarch,
schools
and
chesapeake
lighthouse
foundation.
Is
the
operator
of
chesapeake
science
point.
E
Just
some
specifics
about
our
schools,
I
think
I
thought
you
might
be
interested
in
just
kind
of
walking
through
and
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
monarch
academy,
which
is
in
glen
burnie.
Again
we
talked
about
it's
operated
by
the
children's
guild.
It's
a
kindergarten
through
eighth
grade
school
serving
approximately
679
students
started
back
in
2009.
E
So
if
you
can
believe
it
or
not,
we've
got
charter
schools
that
are
13
years
old
and
they've
been
renewed
several
times
their
next
renewal
date
is
2023
2024
school
year.
So
that's
coming
up
and
that's
an
expeditionary,
learning
focused
school.
They
work
with
el,
and
so
they
are.
They
are
up
due
for
renewal
in
the
next
few
years.
Go
to
chesapeake
science
point
chesapeake
science
point:
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
earlier
grades,
6
through
12.
E
E
All
right
so
now
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
difference
between
a
charter
school
and
a
contract
school,
because
I've
alluded
to
both
tonight
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
have
an
understanding
of
the
difference.
So
a
charter
school
is
constrained
by
a
charter,
school
law,
and
so
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
tonight
about
what
a
charter,
what
the
charter
school
law
looks
like
and
some
of
the
parameters
around
the
charter
school
law
charter
schools
are
in
legislation.
E
So
there
are
very,
very
specific
indicators
in
which
we
have
to
follow
when
a
charter
school
is
open
and
operate.
A
contract
school
by
contrast
is
a
school
that
we've
partnered
with
an
organization
to
open
a
school
within
our
district
that
serves
a
need
so,
for
example,
monarch,
global
and
laurel.
We
we
partnered
with
the
children's
guild
to
open
that
school
to
alleviate
the
overcrowding
issues
in
the
in
the
maryland
city,
brockbridge
and
jessup
area.
E
So
we
saw
a
need
which
was
overcrowding
in
those
three
schools,
and
so
we
went
to
the
children's
guild
and
we
partnered
and
we
collaborated
and
we
decided
to
open
a
school
that
would
just
serve
that
catchment
area.
So
again,
if
we
were
to
open
it
as
a
charter
school
that
charter
school
would
have
to
have
been
open
to
the
entire
district,
because
the
charter
law
says
that
a
charter
school
in
a
district
in
maryland
has
to
be
open
to
the
entire
district.
E
So
we
really
couldn't
have
used
a
charter
to
accomplish
our
goal
of
reducing
overcrowding
in
those
three
elementary
schools.
Monarch.
Annapolis
is
also
open
to
alleviate
overcrowding,
indianapolis
elementary
schools,
and
so
that's
a
contract
school
and
we
partnered
with
the
children's
guild
on
the
same
thing.
So
again,
the
biggest
area
of
difference
is
really
around
that
attendance
area
and
then,
obviously
you
know
any
federal
state,
local
policies
and
regs
charter
schools
by
law
have
to
follow
contract
school
because
of
the
partnership
school.
With
the
district,
we
can
agree
to
negotiate
some
room.
E
If
that
operator
says
look,
I
would
love
to
come
work
with
you.
I
would
love
to
alleviate
something
within
your
district
that
you
came
to
us
about,
but
I
need
these
things
to
operate
more
successfully
and
at
that
point
we
would
be
able
to
then
partner
with
them
and
operate
in
that
way
to
allow
them
the
flexibility
to
operate
in
a
way
that
would
enable
them
to
be
successful.
So
who
are
our
contract
schools?
E
So
currently
we
have
two,
the
first
one
next
slide
monarch
global
academy,
which
I
just
referred
to
in
laurel.
So
it's
a
kindergarten
through
eighth
grade
school.
It's
an
international
baccalaureate,
primary
year
program
at
the
elementary
and
it's
a
project-based
learning
school
at
the
middle
school.
So
again,
the
reason
that
we
opened
this
school
really
was
to
alleviate
the
overcrowding
in
those
three
elementary
schools
and
for
a
while
it
worked.
E
But
then
those
schools
started
to
fill
up
again.
So
you
know,
unfortunately,
sometimes
you
alleviate
overcrowding
and
then
it
continues
to
happen.
But
you
know
I
think
that
school
has
really
caught
on
over
the
last
eight
years
as
a
staple
in
that
community.
Literally,
if
you've
never
been
there,
it's
almost
right
across
the
tree
from
brockbridge
elementary
and
what
I
love
most
about.
E
It
is
brock
bridge
and
modern
global
have
really
collaborated
on
a
number
of
things,
so
it
really
shows
the
partnership
that
we
have
with
that
school
and
they're,
due
in
2023-24
for
their
first
renewal
and
then
finally,
monarch
academy,
annapolis
serves
about
810
students.
It's
an
international
baccalaureate.
Primary
year
program.
It's
only
k-5
does
not
have
a
middle
school
component
and
that
school's
in
its
fifth
year
of
operation.
E
Charter
school
autonomy
again
this
is
another
big
question
I
get
because
you
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
times.
You
hear
charter
school
and
you
think
well,
they
can
just
do
whatever
the
heck.
They
want
to
do
right.
Well,
the
answer
is
to
some
degree,
yes,
but
most
of
the
time
not
really-
and
these
are
the
areas
where
they
have
the
most
flexibility
so
really
around.
We'll
start
with
curriculum.
So,
yes,
all
of
our
charter
and
contract
schools
are
required
to
take
state
assessment.
E
So
while
there
is
flexibility
around
the
curriculum,
they
really
have
to
align
to
common
core
state
standards.
So
if
they're,
you
know,
as
we
know,
state
assessments
are
aligned
with
common
core
and,
if
you're,
not
teaching
common
core,
your
students
are
probably
not
going
to
be
very
successful
on
state
assessments.
So
while
they
can
have
some
flexibility
in
curriculum,
we
do
really
ask
them
to
really
focus
on
common
core
state
standards.
E
We
really
want
their
pacing
guides
to
be
aligned
with
kind
of
how
we're
teaching
and
how
the
state
kind
of
paces
out
being
ready
for
state
assessment.
So
you
know
resources
in
terms
of
of
resources
that
they
use
to
teach
students.
We
don't
really
tell
them
how
to
get
to
the
the
end
line.
We
just
say
that
here's
what
you
need
to
teach
to
get
there
and
then
provide
flexibility
on
how
they
do
that
in
terms
of
budgeting.
E
We
provide
them
with
their
per-pupil
allotment
each
year
and
we
determine
their
overall
operating
budget
based
on
their
september.
30Th
count.
So
on
september
30th
we
determine
how
many
students
they
have
in
their
building.
We
pay
them
a
per
pupil
allotment
based
on
that
and
then
they've
got
a
budget
for
themselves,
so
we
don't
dictate
to
them
how
they
spend
their
money.
E
We
provide
them
the
funds
that
by
contract
are
due
to
them
and
then
we
ask
them
to
balance
their
books,
balance
their
budget,
make
sure
that
they
have
enough
money
to
make
it
through
the
year
and
we
don't
just
turn
them
loose.
There
are
still
some
some
safety
nets
in
place.
We
have
a
our
accounting
and
finance
department
works
very
closely
with
getting
quarterly
reports
from
them
really
kind
of
assisting
them
in
areas
of
oversight
and
accountability.
E
In
terms
of
staffing,
we
do
not
give
them
a
staffing
allocation,
unlike
our
all
of
our
other
traditional
public
schools,
where
we
kind
of
give
them
positions.
We
do
not
do
that
with
our
charter
schools.
They
are
responsible
to
staff,
their
schools
based
on
their
budget.
So
you
know
if
they
want
an
extra
assistant
principal
or
they
want
extra
individuals
in
classrooms
with
teachers
and
they've
got
the
money
to
afford
it.
Then
they
can
have
that
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
programming
again.
E
That's
their
programming
is
what
they're
going
to
put
into
their
application
when
they
apply
to
open
a
school.
So
we
approve
essentially
not
only
are
we
proving
their
school
but
we're
approving
their
program.
So
there's
a
lot
of
flexibility
about
what
programs
they
do
provide
transportation.
They
contract
with
transportation,
vendors
separate
from
us,
so
we
do
not
have
any
oversight
over
their
transportation.
E
E
Nice
thing
is:
we
can
refer
that
back
to
the
charter
operator,
who
then
can
contact
their
vendor
and
take
care
of
the
problem
with
whatever
the
parents.
Excuse
me
issue
is
with
the
transportation
most
of
our
charter.
Schools
are
non-traditional
facilities,
monarch,
global
and
laurel
is
built
their
own
school
so
that,
if
you
went
to
our
four
schools
right
now,
you
would
see
that
monarch
globe
was
probably
our
only
traditional
school.
E
If
you
will,
that
is
a
brand
new
school
building
that
was
built
back
when
we
opened
the
school,
so
it
it
sort
of
fits
the
description
of
a
school.
Our
other
three
schools
are
in
non-traditional
spaces
office
parks
that
are
built
out
monarch.
Annapolis
is
in
the
old
capital
gazette
building
right
off
west
street,
and
so
that's
a
that's
a
very,
very
non-traditional
space
as
well,
but
by
state
law.
E
They
have
some
flexibility
around
where
they
can
run
and
operate
their
school
as
long
as
it
meets
the
state
requirements
for
educational
space,
and
they
do
have
to
provide
ed
specs
when
they
build
a
building.
They're,
not
can't
just
build
a
building
and
put
kids
in
it.
They
do
work
closely
with
our
facilities
department
as
well,
and
then
we
talked
about
some
flexibilities
around
scheduling
or
school
day.
You
know
in
terms
of
if
they
want
a
longer
school
day
or
they
want
to
bring
kids
on
saturday.
They
can
negotiate
that
as
well.
E
So
I'm
going
to
get
in
a
little
bit
to
the
application
process,
because
we
do
currently
have
a
an
application
that
we're
currently
reviewing,
and
I
think
it's
important
for
you
all
to
kind
of
know
the
specifics
around.
What
that
application
process
looks
like
so
by
law,
maryland
charter
school
law
specifically
says
we
have
120
days
from
the
time
the
application
is
submitted
until
the
authorizer
or
the
board
makes
the
decision
either
approving
or
denying
that
application.
E
E
E
They
have
every
right
to
do
that,
and
so
that's
just
something
to
to
keep
in
mind
as
you're
pondering
the
outcome
of
an
application,
and
then
I
have
board
approves
contract
if
it's
approved,
then
30
days
after
that
approval,
I
would
be
sitting
back
in
front
of
you
asking
you
to
approve
a
contract
that
we
negotiated
with
that
group.
E
E
You
should
know
now
kind
of
who
this
applicant
is
and
and
and
some
of
the
specifics
about
it.
So
the
applicant
right
now
is
chesapeake
lighthouse
foundation
who
currently
operates
chesapeake
science
point,
which
is
currently
a
charter
school.
As
we
talked
about
within
anne
arundel
county,
their
proposal
was
to
open
a
chesapeake
science
point
elementary
school
kindergarten
through
fifth
grade,
focusing
on
robotics
virtual
reality
and
coding
location
is
to
be
determined
at
this
point.
They've
got
some
various
facilities
they're
looking
at,
but
nothing
that
I
can
definitively
tell
you
today.
E
E
And
then
the
application
status
so
they
dropped
their
application
off
around
october.
Well,
I
won't
say
around:
it
was
on
october
22nd,
currently
november
15th
as
we
sit
here
today,
it's
being
reviewed
by
internal
staff
and
then
on
february,
2nd.
I
will
come
back
before
you
with
the
findings
of
the
application
review.
E
E
E
So
the
first
one
is,
while
a
for
formal
hearing
is
not
required,
the
charter
applicant
should
have
at
least
24-hour
notice.
The
application
will
be
considered
at
the
board,
meaning,
I
think,
that's
a
fair
and
transparent
thing
to
do.
If
we're
going
to
rule
on
an
application,
we
need
to
give
them
at
least
a
day's
notice
to
know
that
their
application
is
going
to
be
discussed
and
give
them
an
opportunity
to
come
in,
at
least
be
part
of
that
that
board
hearing
and
again,
if
the
application.
E
E
The
local
board
must
provide,
in
addition
to
its
decision,
approving
or
denying
an
application,
explanation
or
rationale
for
its
decision
so
again,
early
on
in
the
chartering
process.
Over
the
years
we
had
some
boards
that
just
said
we're
denying
it
and
the
applicant
said
well.
Why,
and
we
said
well
we're
just
denying
it,
and
so
they
appealed
to
the
state
board
and
the
state
board
said:
look
if
you're
going
to
deny.
E
And
then
again,
a
local
board
just
needs
to
provide
more
than
just
a
basic
explanation
for
the
dial
of
a
of
a
charter
application.
It
needs
to
be
more
specific
than
that
and
again
part
of
the
recommendation
that
dr
lotta
will
bring
to.
You
will
be
all
of
the
facts
and
findings
from
the
charter
review
committee
as
well,
so
you'll
have
plenty
of
information
to
to
mull
over
as
you're
considering
a
decision
all
right.
So
that's
my
presentation
tonight.
E
D
I
see
multiple
lights,
so
I'm
going
to
go
around
and
order
and
starting
with
mr
silkworth.
H
E
Well,
you
know
it's
hard
to
say
because
it's
never
happened,
but
I
actually
it's
happened
in
baltimore
city
on
a
couple
occasions,
and-
and
so
I
think
what
happens
in
that
case
is
the
majority
of
teachers
there
there,
I
think,
there's
a
threshold
of
like
let's
say:
70
75
of
teachers
get
together
and
they
feel
like
they
could
write
an
application
and
submit
it
to
the
district
and
they
could
put
put
together
an
author
or
an
operating
or
governing
board
that
could
oversee
a
school
that
looks
somehow
different
than
what
that
school
currently
looks
like,
and
so
it
could
be
a
school.
E
H
Okay-
and
you
mentioned
the
chesapeake
science
elementary
k-5
that
is
currently
they've,
currently
applied,
that's
right!
If
that
is
approved,
when
would
that
school
likely
open,
they.
E
I
Yes,
so
you
said
that
the
application
review
would
be
on
february
2nd.
When
do
we
start
getting
information
specific
to
this
request?
I
know
that
dr
alado
will
give
us
his
recommendation,
but
when
do
we
start
getting
that
information?
Well.
C
C
All
of
those
pieces
are
being
reviewed
by
the
team
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
place,
we,
you
would
want
to
put
your
children
in
school
and
so
we'll
get
as
soon
as
we
can
have
some
information
available
see
how
quickly
the
team
is
going
through,
we'll
get
it
to
you
so
that
you
can
review
some
of
the
information
but-
and
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
time
until
the
18th
to
have
that
full
120
days,
but
there's
a
lot
that
the
team
has
to
review
to
to
bring
a
recommendation
to
me
and
then
me
to
you.
E
I
I
And
then
you
said
that,
regardless
of
whether
it's
approved
or
denied,
we
would
still
need
to
discuss
our
decision
and
and
give
a
give
a
rationale.
Does
that
have
to
be
at
that
meeting
that
we
do
that
or.
E
I
No
questions
at
this
time,
but
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
G
So,
in
terms
of
the
lottery,
I
heard
you
speaking
that
most,
if
not
all,
of
the
decisions
are
made
by
lottery.
Is
there
a
test
when
it
comes
to
charter
schools,
or
is
it
just
based
on
application.
E
It's
just
application
by
law.
We
we
are
not
allowed
to
ask
any
personal
information
about
a
student.
We
can't
test,
we
can
have
tryouts,
we
can't
do
anything.
It's
strictly
by
law
has
to
be
random,
so
we
can't
ask
whether
they
have
an
iep
or
not.
We
can't
ask
what
their
financial
situation
is.
We
can't
ask
what
their
academic
record
is.
E
So
it's
just
basically
like
I
said,
like
your
name
goes
in
a
hat
and
that's
all
that
the
person
on
the
other
end
sees
when
they're
running
the
lottery
and
again
that
that's
based
on
law
or
just
we'd
be
in
lottery
jail.
If
we
asked
any
personal
information
and
made
any
decisions
that
you
know
if
there
was
any
break
in
the
integrity
of
the
process
that
that's
a
big
no-no.
G
Okay-
and
I
don't
know
if
you'll
be
able
to
answer
and
at
this
early
in
the
process,
but
do
you
know
how
big
for
chesapeake
science
point
elementary,
what
type
of
club,
how
big
you
want
the
school
to
be
student-wise
like
how
hundreds
of
students,
three
hundred
before.
E
C
J
A
J
F
E
So
we
do
a
formal
site
visit
each
year
with
our
charter
schools,
so
we
do
both
what
we
call
an
instructional
visit
and
a
compliance
visit.
So
the
instructional
visit
is
exactly
what
it's
called.
It's
a
group
of
internal
folks
from
central
office.
We
also
grab
some
comprehensive
school
principals
from
around
the
county
and
we
go
in
and
we
do
a
full-scale
instructional
visit.
E
E
Are
some
counties
that
they
only
go
in
once
a
year
and
then
they
try
to
make
a
renewal
recommendation
and
they're
like
well.
We
were
here
four
times,
but
I
mean
we're
there
constantly
and
so
we're
and
we're
meeting
with
the
principals
constantly
and
because
it's
a
school
within
our
district
they're
tied
into
all
the
same
student
reporting
information
systems
as
all
of
our
other
schools.
So
I
can
go
on
to
powerschool
and
run
a
report
at
any
time
and
grab
their
attendance.
E
I
can
look
at
their
assessment
scores,
so
it
nothing's
ever
a
surprise
when
it
comes
to
a
renewal,
and
then
we
do
a
compliance
visit
each
year
too,
where
we
send
our
finance
folks
in
our
transportation,
our
food
service,
our
special
ed,
to
review
special
ed
records.
So
it's
it's
a
full
top
to
bottom
compliance.
J
E
J
And
what
is
the
oversight
if
you
will
of
their
governing
boards?
If
there's
what
so
you
they
have
to
have
a
governing
board,
that's
right,
which
they
determine.
J
E
So
we
really
we
refer
to
our
governing
boards.
State
of
maryland
has
a
non-profit
organization
that
works
specifically
with
our
charter
school
governing
boards
and
that's
the
recommendation
that
we
make
for
them.
We
really
don't
want
to
get
into
the
work
with
the
boards
themselves,
but
we
can
certainly
outsource
resources
to
them
to
help
guide
their
work.
E
There's
also
a
charter
school
conference
every
year
that
we
encourage
our
charter
boards
to
go
to
it's,
not
the
national
charter,
school
authorizer.
It's
the
national
charter
school
conference
and
there's
plenty
of
board
workshops.
We've.
I
go
to
board
meetings,
probably
once
a
year
just
to
kind
of
sit
in
on
the
board
meetings.
Watch
the
process
want
to
make
sure
that
the
process
is
public,
make
sure
that
they
do
have
an
agenda,
make
sure
that
parents
are
invited,
and
so
there's
some
integrity
around
that
process
as
well,
but
we
try
not
to
get
too.
E
Into
the
the
micromanagement
of
the
board
itself,
but
if
we
sense
that
there
are
issues
with
the
board
and
the
oversight
process,
we
can
recommend
resources
for
them
to
use.
There
are
several
folks
around
the
nation
too,
that
do
charter
school
board,
governance
workshops
and
we've
we've
brought
them
in
before
as
well,
but.
E
Yeah,
so
that's
so
that's
part
of
the
review
process,
absolutely
yeah
and
very
specifically,
when
we
go
into
a
renewal
year
we
do
not
only
interviews
with
the
parents
and
students
and
teachers,
but
we
also
bring
the
governing
board
and
the
operator
and
to
interview
them
as
well
and
as
part
of
that
review
process.
They
have
to
submit
all
of
their
contractual
documents
to
us
as
part
of
that
review.
K
Sean,
yes,
thank
you
for
your
presentation,
just
a
couple
of
questions
with
regard
to
facilities
and
identification
of
the
facility,
I
mean:
that's
that's
a
huge
capital
outlay
is
that
that's
on
the
the
onus
of
that
is
on
the
group
coming
to
us,
not
part
of
our
operating
or
capital
budget.
Is
that
an
accurate
statement.
E
So
even
if
they're
approved,
let's
say
they're
approved
on
february
2nd,
we
wouldn't
start
providing
a
per
pupil
allotment
to
them
until
probably
july
1st
of
the
year
they're
going
to
start
accepting
students
into
the
school,
so
that
would
be
a
year
and
a
half
that
they
would
have
to
come
up
with
the
funding
to
purchase
or
rent
a
building.
They'd
have
to
commit
up
with
the
funding
to
renovate
a
building.
They
would
have
to
come
up
with
the
funding
to.
E
They
do
okay,
there
are
state
guidelines
as
to
what
a
facility
has
to
look
like,
particularly
a
public
school
in
the
state
of
maryland.
There
is
some
flexibility
around
those
guidelines.
Typically,
what
happens
is
they
would
get
an
architect
and
they
would
lay
out
an
ed
spec
and
we
would
submit
that
ed
spec
to
the
state
of
maryland's
facility
department.
They
would
then
review
and
provide
feedback
to
us.
E
We
would
then
go
back
to
the
applicant
and
provide
and
seek
feedback
from
them
on
those
clarifying
questions,
and
then
it
typically
is
up
to
us
to
approve
those
ed
specs
and
to
give
them
the
green
light
to
move
forward.
If
you
typically
go
in
our
charter
schools,
their
classrooms
for
the
most
part,
probably
aren't
exactly
the
same
size
as
our
other
schools.
E
But
again
finances
are
an
issue,
and
so
it's
hard
to
you
know
for
them
to
come
up
with
30
or
40
million
dollars
to
build
a
building.
So
there
is
a
a
smaller
scale.
Building
that
that
they've
made
work.
E
The
only
caveat
to
your
question
michelle
is:
there:
is
a
state
charter
school
grant
upwards
of
about
900
000?
That
charter
applicants
can
apply
and
get
approved
for
and
if
they
get
approved,
for
that,
there's
some
very
specific
things
that
they
can
use
that
funding
for,
but
that
typically
will
bridge
the
gap
between
application
approval
and
opening
your
doors.
K
E
E
Yeah
and
if
you
think
about
it,
if
a
young
group
that
wants
to
open
a
school
is
not
going
to
have
the
credit
worthiness
to
go,
buy
a
building
so
typically
they're
going
to
work
with
a
landlord
or
a
building
operator
to
rent
back
from
that
landlord,
and
then
maybe
once
they're
established
five
seven
ten
years
and
they've
been
open
long
enough,
then
they
have
the
the
capital
and
the
credit
worthiness
to
then
move
forward
and
purchase
that
building
and
and
really
it's
it's.
You
want
to
minimize
your
risk
on
the
front
end.
E
K
E
K
K
And
then
my
last
question
super
quick.
F
K
One
and
the
applicant
the
pending
applicant
is
that
a
charter
or
a
contract
charter,
school
charter,
school.
F
Excuse
me
very
nice
presentation.
Thank
you.
I
had
the
privilege
of
visiting
chesapeake
last
week
and
very
impressed
with
just
the
whole
charter
system
process,
so
very
good
introduction
into
tonight's
presentation.
A
couple
of
questions
that
I
didn't
ask
them
that
I
do
have
for
us
is
wait
list.
F
Didn't
understand
the
wait
list,
because
the
wait
list
is
daunting,
so
I
hear,
and
then
I
heard
you
say
your
presentation
that
based
off
of
the
overflow
or
if
there's
not
enough
spaces
in
the
school,
that
you
have,
that
you
all
would
do
a
contract
to
school.
When
you
have
such
a
wait
list,
what
is
the
determining
factor
on
where
you
decide
if
you
need
to
charge
to
contract
out
another
school
system,
or
I
mean
another
school
or
how
do
you
draw
that
line.
E
So
that
so
that,
actually,
when
we
talked
about
contract
schools,
we
talked
about
leaving
alleviating
overcrowding
at
our
traditional
schools.
So,
for
example,
like
with
mon
with
laurel
monarch
global,
there
was
overcrowding
at
brockbridge
elementary
maryland
city
elementary
and
jessup
elementary,
so
because
it
was
cheaper
for
us
to
contract
and
bring
in
the
guild
to
build
a
school
to
alleviate
that
overcrowding.
That's
why
we
made
that
decision,
so
we
didn't
necessarily
make
that
decision
based
on
waitlists
of
other
charter
schools.
We
did
it
based
on
overcrowding
at
current
schools,
okay,.
E
E
F
E
E
Id
number,
that's
it,
so
the
reason
we
ask
address
is
because
we
have
to
know
like
for
monarch
global.
If
you
don't
live
in
those
three
catchment
areas,
you
can't
apply.
So
if
you
don't
put
your
address
in,
we
don't
know
whether
or
not
that's
a
school
that
you
would
qualify
for,
but
the
the
address
really
is
no
determining
factor
and
matter
of
fact
that
the
the
gentleman
that
does
our
lottery
and
out
in
missouri
somewhere,
he
doesn't
even
see
that
information.
E
E
E
You
know,
obviously,
for
the
last
two
years
we
haven't
had
that
data,
but
I
can
say
prior
to
that
our
charter
and
contract
schools
in
some
instances
are
scoring
above
where
some
of
our
school
students
are
in
the
rest
of
the
county
and
in
some
instances
they're
scoring
at
and
someone
says,
there's
a
scoring
below.
E
D
So
just
a
few
questions
so
just
to
summarize
that
the
question
has
come
up
a
number
of
different
ways.
K
D
D
Right,
okay
and
so
based
on
that
they
apply
and
they
are
equal.
D
In
the
lottery
okay,
so
you
mentioned
iep
and
when
you
were
talking
about
that.
So
what
are
charter
schools
obligations
to
to
meet
the
iep?
And
what
is
your
observation
on
how
the
how
they're
doing
with
that.
E
So
in
terms
of
you
know,
they're
still,
public
schools
and
they're
still
public
school
students,
so
our
charter
schools
are
not
exempt
from
that.
I
would,
I
believe,
that
our
charter
schools-
and
this
is
based
on
site,
review
and
site
visits
and
having
our
special
ed
team
go
out
and
audit
records
and
sit
in
classrooms
and
observe
teachers
teaching
students
with
ieps.
I
think
they
do
a
magnificent
job.
E
D
D
E
I
think
that
I
think
the
ranges
vary.
You
know
we
have
charter
school
classes
with
as
low
as
15
students,
but
we
also
have
charter
school
classes
with
as
many
as
25
students.
So
I
just
I
think
it
depends
on
the
grade
level.
I
think
it
depends,
especially
when
you
start
getting
into
the
high
school
level.
Then
you're
talking
about
you
know
have
enough
students
enrolled
in
calculus
one,
and
so
was
that
school.
E
That
class
gonna
be
smaller
than
an
algebra
one
class,
but
I
think
by
and
large
our
charter
school
and
contract
schools
classes
typically
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
smaller,
but
in
all,
not
in
all
cases
and
in
some
cases,
they're,
probably
just
the
same
amount
of
students
in
classes.
D
K
D
Have
a
different
configuration
of
positions
that
would
lead
to
more
smaller
class
sizes
or
a
different
ratio.
That's
how
that
would
be
accomplished
is
that
right.
C
To
a
degree,
yes
and
keeping
in
mind
that
there
is
a
each
of
our
charter
and
contract
schools
have
a
finite
number
built
into
the
contract
that
you
have
signed
with
them.
So
they
are
budgeting
to
490
students
or
500
students
or
360
students,
they're
budgeting
and
looking
at
the
number
of
students
they
have
in
grades,
two
three
four
and
five.
So
there's
a
little
more
finality
in
that
sense
and
that
they
know
how
many.
C
That
they
can
top
out
at
where,
in
the
other,
the
the
the
other
public
schools.
We
don't
have
that
ability
to
just
say
top
out
say
no
we're
not
we're
not
taking
any
more
students
right,
but
they
then
have
the
ability-
and
I
think
to
your
point-
and
it's
a
good
one.
Mrs
ellis-
is
they
have
the
ability
to
staff
their
building,
the
way
they
so
choose,
and
so
it's
on
any
given
year.
C
They
might
say
well
on
this
year
because
of
our
current
enrollment
we're
going
to
have
two
library
media
specialists,
and
then
they
see
that
their
enrollment
goes
up
a
little
bit
and
they
hit
more
of
their
plateau
or
more
of
their
their
top
end.
And
they
decide
the
next
year
to
have
a
single
media
specialist
and
convert
that
period
position
to
a
teaching
position.
D
Okay
and
finally,
for
me,
a
question
was
asked
about
a
performance
comparison.
B
D
Our
charter,
schools
and
and
our
other
schools,
and
certainly
in
at
least
some
cases,
they've,
had
extremely
high
performance.
What
do
we?
How
do
we
use
that
information
to
benefit
us?
Do
we
do
we
learn
things
from
them
that
we
can
apply
to
our
own
educational
practices.
E
Well,
I
guess
the
best
way
for
me
to
respond
to
that
is,
I
believe,
and
through
dr
lotto's
leadership,
that
as
a
district,
we
have
a
great
relationship
with
our
charter
schools,
and
so
we
don't
separate
our
charter
and
contract
schools
from
the
rest
of
our
schools.
We
collaborate
and
we
work
together,
and
you
know
to
your
question
about
site
reviews.
I
always
put
a
team
together.
That
includes
comprehensive
school
principals
as
well
as
internal
central
office
staff
as
part
of
those
site
reviews,
and
we
do
that
for
a
reason.
E
We
do
that
because
we
want
to
expose
everybody
in
the
district
to
what's
happening
within
our
charter.
Schools-
and
I
mean
it's
great-
to
see
because
there's
nothing
better
than
sitting
around
a
table
at
the
end
of
a
site
visit
and
listening
to
a
principal
at
x,
comprehensive
school,
say
wow.
When
I
go
back
to
my
school.
This
is
really
neat.
E
I'm
going
to
take
this
back
with
me,
and
so
I
just
think
that
collaboration
that
we
offer
with
our
schools
is,
unlike
any
other
district,
and
I
think
that
just
that's
fostered
by
dr
lotto
and
his
kind
of
vision
for
how
he
wants
charter
and
contract
schools
within
anne
arundel
county
to
operate
as
part
of
an
entire
district.
They
are
public
school
students,
they
are
anne,
arundel,
county
public
school
students,
so
we
have
to
look
out
for
them
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
the
best
education
possible.
K
D
And
I'm
I'm
glad
that
we
do
have
that
partnership.
If
there
are
any
more
questions,
you
can
hit
your
light.
I'm
not
gonna
go
back
around
and
I
feel,
like
everyone,
had
a
good
opportunity
to
ask
their
questions
and
I
see
no
more
lights.
Dr
alado.
C
So
I
would
just
end
with
emphasizing
some
of
the
points
that
that
mr
crane
added
there
at
the
end
in
that,
when
I'm
out
publicly
talking
or
meeting
with
this
board
and
talking
about
our
84
000
students,
I'm
talking
about
our
students
that
enrolled
in
our
charter
and
contract
schools,
they're,
not
separate
and
apart
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
our
schools
and
their
successes
and
where
they,
where
they
need
growth,
I
can't
speak
to
what
happens
around
the
state
around
the
country,
though
I'm
aware
of
some
of
those
relationships
that
exist
or
may
not
exist
between
the
authorizers,
in
a
board
of
education
and
on
the
operators
in
charter
schools
in
in
both
the
state
and
around
the
country.
C
But
I
can
tell
you:
we've
got
we've
built,
really
solid
relationships.
It's
not
been
easy.
At
times,
we've
had
to
come
to
an
understanding
about
what
that
relationship
is
going
to
be,
but
all
of
the
supports
that
are
in
place
for
each
one
of
our
schools.
Our
charter
contracts
are
included
in
that
so
in
their
meetings
of
level
principles
or
clusters.
C
Those
principles
in
the
charter
and
contract
schools
are
part
of
that
when
there
is
professional
development
for
the
administrators
or
teachers
or
special
education
or
content
areas,
each
of
the
charter
staffs
are
invited
in
and
to
be
part
of
that
that
professional
development,
so
they
are,
they
are
part
of
the
family
and,
as
we
look
at
it,
each
and
every
day,
they're
one
over
84,
000
plus
students
and
we're
looking
for
them
to
be
successful
and
one
of
the
key
differences
is
is-
or
I
guess
I
shouldn't
say,
numbers
one
of
the
joys
is
that
you
go
through
each
one
of
our
schools
and
a
particular
cutter
or
charter
and
contract
schools,
and
the
students
and
the
parents
are
delighted
to
be
there.
C
You
have
visited
chesapeake
science
point
and
many
of
you
and
the
children
are
happy
to
be
there.
It
is
their
school,
they
embrace
it
each
and
every
day,
and
I
think
some
of
the
their
successes
are
a
direct
result
of
that.
So
we're
very
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done
up
to
this
point.
But
I
can
also
tell
you
that
we
have
very
high
standards
for
anybody
that
wants
to
apply
to
bring
a
charter
school
into
anne
arundel
county.
C
We
have
very
high
standards
for
all
of
our
schools,
and
so
not
just
everybody
gets
to
operate
in
anne
arundel
county.
I
hope
you're,
proud
of
that.
We
are
proud
of
that.
We
will
go
through
every
application
very,
very
with
a
fine-tooth
comb,
as
it
were
to
make
sure
that
they
can
meet
our
standards
and
our
expectations,
because,
if
somebody's
going
to
bring
a
new
group,
a
new
charter
school
group
into
our
school
system,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
delivering
above
and
beyond
that
they
have
something.
C
That's
new
and
unique
that
we're
unable
to
bring
to
our
students
that
they
add
to
what
all
of
our
offerings,
because
we
see
it,
as
you
said,
as
a
program
of
choice
that
we
want
students
that
we
want
that
programming
to
be
new
and
unique,
so
that
students
and
parents
will
be
attracted
to
that
school.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
going
through
the
the
process
of
reviewing
this
next
application.
But
the
point
of
tonight
was
to
give
you
some
background
information
it's
new
to
each
and
every
one
of
you
as
a
board.
C
You've
not
gone
through
that
process.
Yet
before
we
got
too
far
down
the
road.
I
asked
for
permission
from
your
president
to
present
to
you
tonight,
so
you
had
some
of
that
information
in
your
minds
and
and
your
thinking
as
we
move
forward
and
eventually
we'll
bring
the
application
forward.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
well
done.
Thank
you
all.