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From YouTube: BOE Public Session 3-19-2014, Part 1
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A
A
B
B
B
I
know,
oh
god,
we
pray
to
administer
that
which
is
just
in
all
educational
policies
being
ever
mindful
of
your
guidance,
stir
us
to
action
with
love,
wisdom
and
understanding
before
we
move
on
I'd
like
to
ask
some
guests
to
come
up
tonight,
we're
privileged
to
have
with
us
scouts
from
troop
769
in
odenton
they're,
here
working
on
their
communication
and
citizenship
in
the
community
merit
badges.
At
this
time.
I'd
like
to
ask
the
scouts
from
troop
769
to
come
forward
to
lead
us
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
B
B
E
E
Each
year
we
have
very
generous
business
partners
who
support
rb
and
I'd
like
to
recognize
them
again
this
year.
The
event
sponsor
was
the
josephine
b
chef
and
knocker
education
trust
the
champion
sponsors
were
the
capital
gazette
communications,
educational
systems,
federal
credit
union
and
shw
group
award.
Sponsors
were
clear,
edge,
I.t
and
daily
computers,
and
the
round
sponsor
was
hair,
cuttery
school
of
the
incarnation
7th
grader
isabelle,
simmons
outlasted
30
other
champion
spellers
to
win
the
26th
annual
anne
arundel
county
spelling
bee
isabel
correctly
spelled
the
word
infinitesimal.
E
I
have
trouble
pronouncing
it
in
the
12th
round
to
win
the
title
campbell
jones
of
severna
park
middle
school
finished.
Second,
in
the
b
and
four
spellers
alyssa
hall
of
annapolis
area,
christian
middle
ela,
zahid
of
annapolis,
middle
school,
becca,
hewitt
of
arundel,
middle
school
and
madison
williams
of
george
fox
middle
school
tied
for
third
now,
unfortunately,
isabelle
rb.
E
What
champion
is
sick
today
and
she's
not
able
to
join
us,
but
we
do
wish
congratulate
her
and
we
know
that
she'll
represent
us
very
well
at
scripps
national
spelling
bee
she
and
actually,
when
she
goes
to
the
scripps
national
spelling
bee
she'll
compete
against
probably
300
spellers
from
across
the
world.
So
it's
an
exciting
event
for
for
our
students
to
be
able
to
go
to
washington
to
participate
in
that.
E
B
C
Thank
you,
madam
president,
I'll
be
real
brief.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
folks,
especially
teresa
tudor
and
several
other
people
that
had
the
parent
involvement
conference
and
our
own
board
member
miss
ritchie
for
the
21st
century
foundation.
We
had
a
lot
of
parents
and
families
that
benefited
from
both
of
those
events,
and
I
know
several
my
colleagues
attended
that,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
the
folks
that
came
out
to
support
that
event.
Thank
you.
Miss
burch.
H
I
just
wanted
to
congratulate
annapolis,
high
school
and
their
chasing
ice
documentary
and
art
installation
that
I
was
able
to
attend
on
the
7th
of
march
and
also
arundel
high
school.
Today,
superintendent
perkins
and
I
were
there
to
watch
the
arundel
high
travel
abroad,
reflection
presentations
from
the
students
who
had
gone
to
kiplin
hall.
It
was
just
a
really
really
nice
day.
B
I
Richie
just
real
quickly.
Thank
you,
mr
brewski.
We
did
have
a
good
turnout.
Over
200
students
came
to
the
career
expo.
More
importantly,
though,
we
gave
a
to
the
school
that
had
the
highest
percentage
of
to
the
high
school
that
had
the
highest
percentage
of
students
attending.
We
gave
a
500
dollars
and
that
went
to
savannah
park
high
school
for
their
spf
program,
and
the
teacher
who
made
this
most
recommendations
also
received
five
hundred
dollars
and
that
went
to
a
teacher
from
north
county.
I
D
I
would,
as
many
of
you
know
march,
is
women's
history
month,
which
affords
our
schools
a
great
opportunity
to
highlight
the
many
significant
contributions
and
legacies
of
amazing
women
both
past
and
present.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
minute
to
recognize
two
of
our
schools
that
are
using
women's
history
month
as
yet
another
teachable
moment
for
our
students
at
piney
orchard.
D
Elementary
school
students
at
various
grade
levels
are
celebrating
women's
history
month
through
the
theme,
women
of
character,
courage
and
commitment
through
their
library,
media
classes,
students
are
discussing
the
meanings
of
those
three
words
and
creating
then
researching
women
who
embody
those
characteristics
from
there.
Students
are
using
technology
to
develop
an
electronic
presentation
about
several
of
the
women.
They
have
researched
at
our
phoenix
academy.
Students
designed
projects,
honoring
famous
women
in
history,
to
be
displayed
on
march
20th
at
a
family
showcase
event.
D
J
Next
week,
a
delegation
of
over
70
students
from
13
secondary
schools
are
attending
the
maryland
association
of
student
councils
convention.
Students
will
attend
workshops
and
speakers
in
order
to
develop
their
leadership
capacities.
We
are
also
leading
several
workshop
presentations
to
share
our
personal
experiences
with
student
leaders
from
other
lease.
J
J
Immediately
after
this
report,
I
will
be
joining
the
crasque
executive
staff
in
the
cafeteria
for
a
student
member
on
the
board
meet
the
candidates
night,
where
we
are
learning
about
our
candidates
and
helping
them
to
prepare
for
the
election.
As
always.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
students
of
arnold
county.
J
K
Good
evening
president
burge
members
of
the
boards,
I'm
karma
o'neill,
I'm
here
to
give
the
cac
report.
Sadly,
we
don't
have
much
to
report
as
a
synopsis.
At
the
beginning
of
my
term
in
september,
the
cac
was
given
several
topics
for
the
cac
to
focus
on
in
2013
and
14.,
mainly
assisting
in
the
search
for
and
hiring
of
the
new
superintendent,
grading
and
class
ranking
and
completing
the
data
cac
collected
on
school
start
times
and
make
comment
on
the
cell
tower
placement
issue.
K
To
date,
the
board
of
education
has
received
the
final
data
from
the
cac
on
school
start
times
and
created
the
requested
task
force
to
further
research
possible
options,
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
The
board
has
also
created
a
panel
to
assist
in
the
superintendent
search
but
overlook
the
cac
committee
that
was
formed
for
that
task.
K
We
feel
we've
been
told
by
the
executive
committee
to
not
worry
about
the
grading
policy,
grading
and
ranking
policy
and
the
cell
tower
community
forums
are
ongoing
around
us.
The
policy
is
being
created
as
we
speak,
which
is
good
as
volunteers.
We
take
time
away
from
our
businesses,
careers,
families,
hobbies
and
some
of
us
other
activities
that
we're
also
involved
in
to
donate
valuable
time.
To
that
we
want
to
commit
to
the
cac
my
committee
is
feeling
irrelevant
and
is
struggling
to
find
purpose.
K
B
B
B
We
are
now
going
to
move
on
to
public
participation.
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda
may
offer
testimony
during
this
public
participation
portion
of
the
meeting
speakers
will
be
allotted
three
minutes.
Each
student,
specific
and
personnel
matters
are
confidential
and
cannot
be
discussed
in
this
forum.
For
the
record,
please
give
your
name
before
speaking.
Handouts
should
be
given
to
the
board
assistant.
B
F
L
L
L
I'm
here
to
remind
this
body
that
it
is
a
signer
on
and
a
party
to
the
ocr
agreement
and
that
it
has
a
distinct
role
and
responsibility
to
show
good
faith
in
carrying
out
its
mission
and
reaching
its
goals.
In
fact,
when
you
read
the
document,
you
will
see
that
the
board
is
the
first
mentioned
party
and
the
first
signer.
L
L
I
refer
you
to
recital
number
10
of
the
agreement
which
reads,
whereas
the
parties
recognize
that
the
conditions
in
the
aacps
school
system,
leading
to
the
vast
educational
disparities
between
students
based
on
race
are
not
a
recent
or
one-time
occurrence,
but
have
developed
and
institutionalized
over
time,
and
that
any
resolution
of
such
disparities
will
require
one.
A
concerted
and
targeted
effort
to
de-institutionalize
such
conditions
to
a
retooling
of
the
school
system
whereby
all
students
are
treated
fairly
and
equally
in
the
delivery
of
educational
opportunities
and
three.
L
L
My
time's
up,
yes,
oh
wow,
okay,
let
me
just
read
my
last
paragraph:
we
need
a
superintendent
that
has
a
verifiable
track
record
of
proven,
successful
experiences
and
evidence
of
passion
and
commitment
toward
treating
and
educating
all
children,
fairly,
no
exceptions.
We
need
a
superintendent
who
has
the
resolve
to
tackle
racially
discriminatory,
discriminatory
practices
in
our
schools
as
well
as
stand
up
against
it
outside
of
our
schools.
L
M
M
Now,
can
you
hear
me
all
right
all
right?
The
recent
con
correspondence
that
I
had
did
not
resolve
the
issues
that
we
had.
If
you
remember
this
has
to
do
with
boys
high
school
baseball,
the
recognition
top
players
do
not
get
the
top
player.
Last
year's
team,
the
top
player
a
catcher,
was
not
recognized
as
a
county
player
when
the
season
ended.
So
we
asked
if
we
could
get.
That
was
what
these
letters
were
just
the
negatives
on
this
young
man
about
why
he
was
not
picked
now.
M
This
has
to
do
we've
gone
over
everything
with
you.
We
sent
you
all
the
material
all
his
rankings.
All
his
batting
averages
he's
the
top
number
five
player
in
the
county,
and
yet
he
never
was
recognized.
So
what
we
want
to
do
tonight
as
fast
as
we
can
do
this
is
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
achievement
and
what
they
go
through
for
achievement
and
how
it's
denied
mark.
You
want
to
read
the
first
thing
on
achievement.
M
This
first,
this
first
chart
is
going
to
show
you.
We
see
these
in
all
houses
where
they're
students,
any
student
who
ever
gets
on
an
honor
roll
he's
going
to
display
it
on
his
refrigerator,
he's
going
to
send
it
to
his
grandmother,
he's
going
to
do
everything
he
can
with
it,
because
he's
really
proud
of
what
he
achieved
here.
This
has
to
do
with
what
you've
created
this
great
momentum
for
them
to
be
achievers.
M
The
second
some
of
these
youngsters
that
are
on
that
honor
roll-
they
want
to
do
other
things,
so
they're
invited
to
participate
in
sports
in
the
county
and
and
some
of
them
want
to
become
baseball
players,
so
the
baseball
players.
This
is
their
honor
roll
at
the
end
of
the
season.
It's
a
very
short
season,
maybe
90
days
they
appear
on
this
honor
roll
every
week.
They
look
for
this
for
these
numbers
or
where
they
rank.
This
boy
is
ranked
about
number
five
in
the
county,
all
county
never
looked
at
by
anybody.
Okay.
M
This
third
item
is
the
key
to
it
all
you
have.
You
have
produced
your
philosophy
statement
that
says
the
athletic
program
in
our
county
is
viewed
as
an
extension
of
the
child's
total
educational
experience
period
enter
inter
yeah.
Interscholastic
athletes
is
a
program
for
those
who
would
like
to
pursue
the
challenges,
as
well
as
the
benefits
we
never
found
out
what
the
benefit
is
for
the
boy
or
the
girl
who
achieves
so.
This
is
what
we're
looking
at.
We
want.
O
N
M
B
N
Did
you
have
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
add?
Yeah,
I'm
a
concerned
father.
I
have
kids
in
the
school
system
here
and
it's
hard
for
for
these
kids.
You
know
when
they
want
to
go
out
and
try
sports
and
they
become
good
at
sports,
maybe
not
so
great
academically.
They
try
to
keep
their
grades
up,
but
they
go
in
sports
and
they
achieve
well
and
they're
hurt
by
a
school
system.
Maybe
that
doesn't
have
the
best
sporting
record,
the
best
baseball
record
or
a
good
team.
N
We
learned
that
a
lot
of
times
certain
high
schools
are
eliminated
from
the
all
county
teams.
Those
players
that
play
for
those
baseball
teams,
because
a
school,
a
certain
school
may
not
have
a
good
team.
You
can't
pick
your
school,
you!
You
have
to
go
to
the
school
in
your
jurisdiction,
so
these
people
to
who
achieve
very,
very
well
and
have
probably
the
best
numbers,
maybe
in
the
county,
aren't
looked
at
because
the
team
that
they're
on
is
a
losing
team
and
I
think
that's
unfair.
N
If
you
actually
make
this
list,
it
looks
good
for
you
and
when
you
try
to
achieve
that,
and
you
do
everything
you
can
to
get
the
best
statistics
and
don't
reach
that
you
are
really
upset
and
disappointed.
Something's
happened
in
the
school
system,
something
is
broken.
It
needs
to
be
fixed.
We've
been
here
twice
now
we
haven't,
got
any
results
there.
This
has
not
changed.
This
is
going
to
happen
again
and
again
and
again,
a
child
should
be
able
to
have
the
right
to
be
able
to
make
the
all
county
teams
on
absolutes.
N
We
need
to
baseball
statistics
and
when
you,
when
a
real,
like
a
player,
is
drafted
for
a
major
league
they're
looked
at
on
statistics
and
numbers
and
how
well
they
do
you
know.
That's
all
we're
asking
that's
how
it's,
if
it's
something
different
than
the
players
need
to
know
up
front
before
they
try
out
for
the
teams
and
try
to
achieve
those
numbers.
You
know
they
should
be
recognized
for
what
they
did.
N
This
is
very
disappointing
for
players
that
work
out
and
do
their
best
to
make
this,
and
only
to
realize
that
other
teams
or
players
have
worse
statistics
than
they
do
make
this
all-county
team
and
they're
let
down,
and
it's
very
disappointing
to
know
that
this
happens
and
it's
still
happening
and
it
needs
to
be
fixed.
We
need
to
see
something
happen.
N
B
P
P
I
was
never
blessed
to
have
children
of
my
own,
but
I've
done
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
in
the
community
with
children.
I
was
a
volunteer
at
a
group
home
for
teenage
kids.
I
was
a
parent
surrogate
through
the
anne
arundel
county
schools.
I
was
a
president
of
the
junior
league
of
annapolis
and
helped
a
lot
of
kids
in
different
programs,
especially
in
partnership
with
the
schools
with
our
back
to
school
backpack
project,
kids
on
the
block.
Among
other
things,
I
was
a
court-appointed
special
advocate,
speaking
up
for
the
rights
of
abused
and
neglected
children.
P
We,
along
with
thousands
of
parents,
entrust
you
and
they
send
their
kids
off
to
school
every
day
and
we
rely
on
you.
We
put
our
trust
in
you
to
make
decisions
that
are
good
for
them
on
all
levels.
We
don't
put
that
faith
and
trust
in
milestone
communications
or
in
sprint,
because
their
bottom
line
is
to
make
money.
That's
it.
P
P
Q
Name
is
laurie
eberhard.
I
reside
on
devon
court.
It's
the
first
court
in
hunt
meadow.
What
concerns
me
is
that
the
electromagnetic
field
that
would
emanate
from
a
cell
tower
is
not
wise
in
such
close
proximity
to
a
home
or
school.
What
should
concern
annapolis
is
that
the
reduced
home
values
would
equal
reduced
tax
revenue.
R
Good
evening
my
name
is
leah
mayer,
I'm
here
representing
myself
and
my
husband,
dr
jeffrey
mayer,
primary
care
sports
medicine,
physician
for
medstar,
we're
residents
of
hunt
meadow
here
in
annapolis,
and
we
strongly
oppose
the
construction
of
the
cell
tower
at
annapolis
middle
school.
I
read
our
statements
two
weeks
ago,
so
I
won't
read
them
again.
I'd
just
like
to
reiterate
our
concerns
for
health
and
safety
and
respectfully
ask
you
to
deny
the
permit
for
construction.
R
I'd
also
like
to
read
a
statement
on
behalf
of
sarah
hansen.
She's,
a
real
estate
agent
for
coldwell
banker
and
hunt,
meadow
resident
herself
location
location
location
is
the
most
well-known
tenant
in
real
estate.
People
look
for
the
best
location
they
can
afford
balanced
with
the
size
and
style
of
a
house
hunt
meadow
has
it
all
which
makes
it
among
the
most
highly
desired
family
communities
in
annapolis.
R
Appreciation
is
consistent
and
properties
sell
quickly.
All
over
the
internet
is
case
after
case
about
the
negative
impact
of
cell
towers
to
area
residential
property
values.
People
do
not
choose
to
live
in
close
proximity
to
a
cell
tower
because
of
the
health
risk
safety
and
because
they
are
an
unsightly
visual
blemish.
R
The
unusual
feature
of
a
cell
tree
towering
overhead
in
a
neighborhood
or
worse
as
it
is
proposed
here
at
the
entrance
and
will
have
immediate
negative
impact,
property
values
and
marketability
will
be
adversely
affected.
A
buyer
will
now
choose
to
consider
a
hunt
metal
property
only
if
there
is
a
reasonable
price
difference
that
helps
them
to
overcome
the
objection
to
the
cell
tower.
That
will
be
a
drastic
and
unfair
change
from
the
ease
we
now
enjoy.
R
Promoting
and
selling
this
community
and
due
to
the
specific
location,
location
of
the
cell
tower,
the
effect
and
impact
will
be
everlasting
every
day
year
to
year,
all
will
be
reminded
daily
of
its
presence
right
next
to
the
entrance
coming
and
going.
There
will
be
no
missing
it.
It
will
not
be
off
in
the
distance
which
in
time
could
be
forgotten
as
a
realtor
and
hunt
meadow
homeowner.
I
strongly
object
to
this
site
selection.
Surely
a
less
visible
location
can
be
found.
Thanks
for
your
attention
appreciate
it.
S
I'm
more
comfortable
standing,
my
name
is
madeline
rue.
I
live
in
hunt
meadow,
I
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
opposition
to
the
cell
tower
and
it's
a
very
passionate
time.
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
this
is.
This
could
be
a
very
positive
move
for
the
community
to
finally
come
together
and
resolve
something
as
a
people
we
we've
gotten
so
dispersed
and
and
thinking
of
of
not
of
the
community,
not
not
in
a
way
that
benefits
everyone.
S
S
We
own
that
too,
the
american
people
and
the
companies
that
bought
a
right
to
use
those
airwaves
with
integrity,
but
only
that
we
own
those
airwaves.
We
send
our
children
to
that
school
and
we
live
in
that
community.
No
one!
No
one
in
this
world
has
more
of
a
right
to
say
what
should
not
go
there
than
we
do.
No
one
we,
you
know
when
I
was
13
years
old.
I
thought
I
would
be
way
cool
and
very
sophisticated.
S
If
I
could
smoke
my
parents
said
no
way,
as
did
other
adults,
you
cannot
smoke,
you
cannot
drink.
You
cannot
use
drugs.
The
irony
of
telling
children
that
they
cannot
do
these
things,
but
they
have
to
go
to
school
and
play
around
a
cell
tower
that
we
know
at
this
moment
as
crude
as
this
technology
is
because
10
years
down
the
road,
this
is
going
to
be
obsolete.
We'll
have
something
else,
but
10
years
down
the
road
we're
going
to
know
more
about
the
long-term
effects
of
the
health
hazards.
S
It's
just
that's
just
not
fair
to
them.
I
I
think
that
we
need
we
need
to
have.
As
frederic
pohl
said,
the
science
fiction
writer.
We
need
to
have
a
secretary
of
consequences.
We
need
to
get
together
and
look
at
the
long-term
consequences
for
everyone.
We
can
figure
this
out.
It's
not
incumbent
on
us
to
try
to
change
the
technology.
T
T
While
I
applaud
the
concept
of
out
of
the
box
thinking
and
the
efforts
to
leverage
our
assets
to
generate
new
revenue
streams,
I
am
concerned
about
the
unintended
consequences
that
will
likely
erode,
if
not
eliminate
those
new
funds.
The
appraisal
institute
referenced
a
study
by
dr
sandy
bond.
In
an
article
dated
august,
the
2nd
2012
that
stated
cell
towers
will
reduce
property
values
by
2
percent
to
20
percent.
T
This
will
have
a
negative
impact
on
many
fronts.
First,
the
homeowner,
whose
largest
personal
asset
is
likely
to
be
their
primary
residence,
will
see
a
significant
drop
in
the
value
of
that
asset
property
assessed.
Values
are
tied
specifically
to
the
market
values
as
those
rise
and
fall.
So
do
the
assessed
values.
T
T
T
T
As
elected
and
appointed
officials,
we
have
an
obligation
to
our
citizens
to
be
transparent
in
our
actions
and
duties,
especially
when
their
health
and
safety
are
involved.
A
process
that
eliminates
or
circumvents
community
involvement
should
not
be
permitted.
A
process
that
authorizes
the
superintendent
to
make
decisions
that
enter
into
agreements
without
the
prior
notification
of
the
community
is
a
slippery
slope
that
smells
of
sneaky
backdoor
deals
intended
to
keep
it
secret
until
it
is
too
late.
T
B
B
U
U
Most
of
them
are
maryland,
but
but
they're
not
necessarily
annapolis,
there's
a
few
that
are
out
of
state
but
there's
there's
a
large
percentage
that
are
actually
annapolis,
but
some
of
those
people
that
are
out
of
state
also
said
that
they
have
relatives
and
friends
and
people
that
live
in
the
community,
so
that
they're
concerned
about
it.
But
but
anyway
they
echo
a
lot
of
the
same
sentiments.
We
have
our
concerns
about
health
and
safety
and
and
in
about
50
or
so
people
left
comments
on
there.
U
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
of
the
comments
that
people
left
and
these
people
are
actually
hunt
meadow
residents.
One
of
them
is,
I
am
a
homeowner
for
the
past
26
years
in
hunt
meadow
and
do
not
want
my
property
values
affected,
also
their
unknown
health
concerns.
Due
to
the
cell
tower.
I
do
not
want
to
take
a
chance
that
mine
and
others
health
will
be
adversely
affected.
U
My
wife
has
already
fought
cancer
from
what
has
been
likely
caused
by
carcinogens
at
a
location
in
her
childhood.
That
was
a
place
where
people
said.
Don't
worry,
there's
no
known
problem
well
now,
they're
saying
that
there
was
we
are
not
willing
to
take
that
chance
for
ourselves
or
anyone
else
in
hunt
meadow
or
the
children
at
the
middle
school.
U
The
technology
is
still
in
its
infancy
and
already
there
are
documented
incidents
of
health
effects
on
people
living
near
cell
towers.
Obviously
many
people
live
near
them
and
so
far
have
not
been
affected,
but
we
really
have
no
idea
what
the
long-term
effects
might
turn
out
to
be.
It
only
makes
sense
to
all
involved
to
take
whatever
measures
we
can
at
the
moment
to
keep
children
and
residents
safe.
U
Another
one
here
is
a
resident
of
meadow
and
a
concerned.
Parent
of
three
students
who
will
attend
annapolis
middle
school
and
play
after
school
sports
on
on
annapolis
middle
school
fields.
I
am
strongly
opposed
to
this
plan
by
spending
so
much
time
in
proximity
to
this
planned
tower.
My
children
would
have
very
high
levels
of
exposure
to
any
hazards,
including
electromagnetic
radiation,
structural
collapse,
fires
and
communication
workers.
U
Please
make
the
safety
of
our
anne
arundel
and
annapolis
students
your
priority
and
one
more
here
we
live
close
to
the
proposed
site.
My
daughter
will
be
going
to
annapolis
middle
school
next
year,
drive
by
there
on
any
weeknight
or
weekend
day
and
you'll,
see
hundreds
of
kids
playing
lacrosse
and
soccer
plus
all
the
parents
are
watching
and
there's
nearby
vehicles
it
just
does
it
just
does
not
make
sense.
V
I
would
like
to
object
to
the
cell
tower
at
annapolis,
middle
school
you're,
creating
a
natural
experiment.
You've
got
kids
at
hillsmeer
elementary,
who
are
within
a
mile
of
a
cell
tower
on
forest
drive
and
they're
exposed
to
those
emissions
for
the
la
you
know,
from
kindergarten
to
fifth
grade.
Then,
if
they
move
on
to
annapolis
middle
school,
they
will
have
been
exposed
for
almost
10
years
for
most
of
the
day,
almost
all
the
days
of
the
year.
V
V
V
W
W
I
first
of
all
want
to
say
that
I
do
not
want
the
cell
tower
to
be
installed
on
annapolis,
middle
school
property
and
for
various
reasons
that
I'm,
following
up
on
I've,
been
a
resident
here
for
about
20
some
odd
years
previous
to
coming.
Here,
I
was
involved
with
interior
design
within
chicago
new
york,
new
jersey
and
maryland.
W
W
W
G
W
X
President
burge
superintendent
perkins
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
mickey
emanuel.
I
live
in
81
hoyland
at
severna
park,
I'm
here
as
a
parent
of
students
and
in
anne
arundel
county
public
schools,
and
I
want
to
continue
the
discussion
about
the
search
for
the
superintendent,
with
the
selection
of
our
next
superintendent
you're,
about
to
make
a
decision
that
will
determine
whether
there
will
continue
to
be
a
concerted
and
targeted
effort
to
change
the
racial
disparities
in
our
school
system.
X
X
The
ocr
advisory
committee,
a
group
of
six
community
members
and
the
superintendent's
executive
staff
have
been
meeting
once
a
month
for
the
past
nine
years,
monitoring
progress
and
making
recommendation
recommendations
to
further
the
goals
of
the
ocr
agreement.
We
are
troubled
that
the
perspectives
of
not
even
one
of
these
individuals
currently
engaged
was
considered
important
enough
to
weigh
in
on
who
our
next
superintendent
should
be.
X
X
As
you
all
know,
the
us
department
of
education,
the
u.s
department
of
justice,
ruled
on
the
disparities
in
education
in
annual
public
schools.
That's
that's
a
fact.
There's
no
question
about
that.
So
what
do
we
do
about
that?
How
do
we
address
that?
By
supporting
the
ocr
agreement?
I
believe
it's
a
win-win
for
everyone.
X
X
B
B
B
Y
I
really
can't
say
anything
better
than
the
very
first
lady
who
spoke
on
the
cell
phone
tower.
I
mean
what
she
said
was
just
spot
on
and
it
everything
that
they
said
for
annapolis.
Middle
really
relates
to
cat
north,
whether
it's
property
values,
health
issues,
safety
issues.
It
applies
to
every
single
school
in
anne
arundel
county.
It
doesn't
matter
what
school
it
is
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
come
here.
The
parents
in
the
in
the
community
should
not
have
to
come
here
for
every
single
school
that
the
school
board
is
looking
into.
Y
To
put
these
cell
phone
towers,
it
applies
to
all
of
them,
and
I
had
a
very
interesting
conversation
today
with
my
councilman
greg
grasso.
I
think
that's
how
he
pronounces
his
last
name,
and
he
said
the
bottom
line
is
for
the
board.
Is
that
it's
money?
You
guys
are
doing
this
for
the
money
so
and
that's
the
bottom
line,
it's
for
our
kids
and
you're
selling,
our
kids
for
it.
Thank
you.
B
B
D
AA
Z
O
Z
B
B
O
Really
a
question
just
a
statement,
because
we
received
numerous
emails
relative
to
this
and
just
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
This
telecommunication
transmission
facility
policy
is
not
the
approval
of
any
individual
school.
That's
out
there.
This
is
our
policy
relative
and
regulation
relative
to
how
we're
going
to
go
about
those
processes.
Can
you
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
mr
shakinovic.
I
Miss
richie-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
proper
or
not,
but
I'm
gonna
do
it
anyway,
because
because
people
are
here
and
so
and
there's
been
accusations
made
that
you
know
we're
doing
it
all
for
money
and
money
is
involved
and
that's
not
going
to
turn
away
from
that.
But
haven't
we
also
been
told
by
government
and
in
that
we
have
to
use
public
properties
because
there
was
there
was
things
about.
I
You
know
the
taxpayer
dollars
and
the
taxpayer
things
and
that
this
all
came
about,
not
because
we
went
out
seeking
to
look
for
revenue
or
to
find
cell
phone
towers
to
put
on
property,
but
because
public
property
is
supposed
to
be
used
as
opposed
to
trying
to
go
on
private
property
and
stuff
like
that
to
put
cell
tells.
Because
of.
Could
you
speak
to
that
just
a
bit.
AB
The
federal
government
essentially
identified
the
ability
to
have
a
robust
communication
system
as
an
item
of
national
concern,
principally
for
three
reasons.
They
identified
one
emergency
communications
and
today
in
excess
of
80
percent,
of
the
calls
that
come
into
our
911
dispatch
center
come
in
through
cellular
communications.
AB
The
second
item
is
the
ability
to
conduct
business
and
commerce
to
transact
business
and
commerce
across
the
nation
across
county
state
lines.
The
third
is
for
routine
communications
amongst
people
for
casual
conversations
etc,
but
the
first
two
are
clearly
an
item
of
national
concern
for
the
federal
government,
recognizing
that
it's
an
important
issue
that
we
need
to
address
and
and
wrestle
with
at
the
national
level,
the
federal
government
sought
to
limit
impediments
to
the
build-out
and
expansion
of
the
communication
system
across
this
country.
I
And-
and
that's
why
I
mean
when
you
go
like
when
I
look
out
my
front
door
across
where
the
police
department
is,
I
can
see
like
cell
towers
over
there
because
that's
publicly
owned
in
land-
it's
not
you
know
it
doesn't
own.
It's
not
owned
by
an
one
entity,
it's
owned
by
the
public,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
places
that
they,
you
know,
put
them
in
all
the
water
towers
that
you
see,
you
have
a
lot
of
those
there's
they're
putting
them
in
churches.
AB
Yes,
ma'am.
We
we
cannot
in
either
an
arbitrary
or
capricious
faction
fashion,
run
afoul
of
the
federal
government's
requirements.
There
is
essentially
in
the
in
the
u.s
constitution.
There
is
a
hierarchy,
a
preemption
provision
that
essentially
has
the
federal
government
structured
as
as
the
highest
and
predominant
level
of
government
and
then
naturally
followed
by
state
counties
and
municipalities
below
that.
I
And
so
any
community,
the
homeowners
association
could
say
they
have
this,
this
piece
of
property
over
here
that
maybe
backs
to
woods
or
whatever.
They
could
sell
that
piece
of
property
to
a
telecommunications
person
to
put
up
a
tower
if
they
wanted
to
do
that.
If
it
was
in
that
within
because
the
telepho
communications
people
know
where
the
you
know,
when
we
see
on
tv
that
map
of
the
coverage,
so
these
people
all
know
where
they're
lacking
coverage.
I
So
if
there's,
if
there
was
a
community
someplace
where
they
wanted
to
do
it,
and
maybe
there
wasn't
a
school
where
we
didn't
want
to
put
it
at
the
school
because
there's
no
property,
they
could
go
into
the
community
and
find
a
piece
of
property
and
and
negotiate
if
they
wanted
to
with
the
community.
Couldn't
they
to
do
those
things.
AB
Yes,
ma'am
and
then
just
just
like
with
the
school
system,
it
would
have
to
follow
all
the
applicable
federal
state,
local
and
municipal
codes,
ordinances,
standards
etc,
and
they
would
have
to
seek
licensure
permit
approval
inspections.
So
they
would
have
to
follow
the
exact
same
process
as
any
publicly
a
public
land
owner.
I
Okay,
so
basically,
what
we're
doing
is
meeting
the
federal
but
we're
not
giving
permission.
I
mean
we're
giving
them
permission
as
long
as
they
meet
and
we've
determined
what
those
mandates
are
in
accordance
with
the
law
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
then
they
have
to
go
through
all
the
channels
of
the
going
to
the
public
hearings.
They
have
to
get
the
regulations,
they
have
to
get
the
permits
to
do
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
AB
B
AB
B
AB
Certainly
they've
been
offered
by
some
opponents.
However,
the
federal
government
essentially
considers
that
a
settled
matter,
not
only
the
federal
government
but
there's
even
a
state
of
maryland,
attorney
general's
office
advisory
letter
that
essentially
says
that
enough
that
environmental
or
health-based
rationales
cannot
be
the
sole
determinant
for
not
allowing
the
installation
of
a
telephone
facility,
because
the
fcc
is
the
governing
authority
and
essentially
limits
both.
You
know
the
emissions
and
everything
else
associated
with
cell
phone
terrorism.
AB
B
AC
AC
I
mean
we
we
pretty
much
as
you've
outlined,
we
go
by
federal
statutes,
federal
laws,
so
we
do
what
we're
told
pretty
much,
and
I
just
don't
understand
why
we're
in
the
middle
of
this.
Quite
frankly,
the
other
thing
is
I'm
looking
at
a
map
right
now
on
search
antenna
search,
dot
com,
it
looks
like
we've
got
37
towers
in
zip
code
21401,
based
on
this
map.
We've
got
six
on
forest
drive.
AC
AD
I
just
wanted
to
maybe
answer
your
question
right
now,
we're
just
looking
at
policy
which
doesn't
suggest
that
we,
you
know,
enter
an
agreement
with
milestone.
It
just
suggests
that
we
have
the
ability
to
do
such
thing
and
I
would
not
expect
them
to
be
here
to
sort
of
defend
our
position
to
develop
policy.
You
know
they
are
one
of
many
providers
and
it
would
be
you
know,
perhaps
when
we
were
actually
looking
at
different
sites,
but
today
it's
just
policy.
AC
AC
B
AC
AE
AE
Under
the
board
of
ed
of
anne
arundel
county
policy,
number
100,
section
c5a,
the
purpose
and
mission
is
to
provide
students
with
a
safe
and
supportive
learning
environment
under
policy
number
104
section.
A
the
purpose
of
the
school
district
is
to
ensure
that
the
district
maintains
a
healthy
school
environment
and
promotes
family
involvement
in
maintaining
such
healthy
environment
for
the
students
and
under
policy
507.
AE
So,
in
the
new
policy
that
we're
talking
about
tonight,
we're
wondering
the
lawyer
that
we
have
retained
is
wondering.
Are
you
authorizing
the
superintendent
to
enter
into
leases
when
he
or
she
may
know
nothing
about
radiation
limits
and
the
amount
of
radiation
to
which
our
children
will
be
exposed
to
for
up
to
seven
hours?
A
day?
Five
days
a
week
for
the
entire
school
year
since
one
or
more
school
districts
in
new
york
place
radio
frequency
limits
in
their
leases.
AE
If
and
when
you
agree
to
lease
space
for
cell
towers
on
school
grounds,
what
would
you
be
able
to
protect
our
children
and
entitle
them
to
the
same
protection
that
the
children
of
new
york
had
to
protect
our
children?
We
need
to
do
this.
The
school
district
in
new
york
set
the
radiation
limits
which
limited
the
amount
of
radio
radio
frequency
radiation
to
which
cell
towers
could
expose
their
children.
AE
AE
B
AE
What
happened
was
sprint
tried
to
school
to
to
sue
the
school
district,
and
it
was
found
that
the
united
states
court
of
appeal
for
the
second
circuit
ruled
in
favor
of
the
school
district,
saying
that
school
districts
can
impose
whatever
limits
they
see
fit.
So
in
closing,
I
just
hope
that
if
we
do
adopt
this
policy,
that
the
superintendent
is
making
these
decisions-
and
it's
not
the
board-
we
hope
that
transparency
is
there.
We
worry
that
it's
going
to
all
be
done
behind
closed
doors.
AE
P
P
P
P
Am
speaking
to
the
policy
because
the
policy
says
appropriate
coverage
for
safety
and
security,
and
we
have
plenty
of
coverage
for
safety
and
security.
The
policy
also
says
to
advance
instructional
technology.
Tell
me
how
having
a
cell
tower
at
annapolis
middle
school
is
going
to
advance
instructional
technology
cell
towers.
Don't
do
that
teachers
do,
but
if
the
teachers
and
the
kids
brains
are
fried,
how
is
technology
going
to
be
advanced?
How
is
instruction
going
to
be
advanced
seems,
like
things
are,
getting
less
and
less
transparent
with
this
board.
B
B
AF
B
O
Do
two
quite
two
questions:
actually,
when
will
the
numbers
be
available?
Referencing,
the
dollar
amount
we
kind
of
go
through
this
every
time
courses
but-
and
we
always
see
not
available
at
this
time.
When
is
it
going
to
be
available,
and
can
you
please
ensure
that
the
board
is
made
aware
of
the
costs
associated
with
all
three
of
these
absolutely.
AG
O
AH
AH
AG
AH
O
D
O
AK
AJ
AF
AF
AK
O
I
just
I
have
a
follow-up,
is
kind
of
somewhat
associated
with
that
in
the
thought.
As
the
question
was
being
asked
when
I
asked
you
who
was
kind
of
on
those
committees
and
whatever
the
committee
was
called
up,
sorry,
I
have
it
out
grading
in
in
transcript
in
the
future.
Might
you
also
consider
a
principal
someone
in
the
school
or
a
school-based
type
individual
and
ultimately
a
student
relative
to
the
build
of
it?
O
You
know
we
pride
ourselves
here
in
anne
arundel
county
as
having
the
only
student
member
of
the
board
that
has
full
voting
rights
at
the
end
of
the
day,
arabic
and
some
of
the
other
courses
that
you're
offering
here
really
bringing
the
student
into
the
creation
of
it
may
give
you
ideas
that
may
make
the
course
that
you're
already
writing
that
much
better.
So
I
would
just
offer
that,
and
maybe
you
have
someone-
maybe
I
don't
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
AI
Mr
jackson,
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
are
very
proud
about
with
a
lot
of
these
courses
is
that
they
come
from
our
community
stakeholders
and
from
our
teams
at
the
school.
So,
while
at
grading
in
transcript
level,
we
may
not
have
a
school-based
person
which
which
we
may
want
to
consider.
These
courses
are
coming
from
the
schools.
O
And
they're
yeah
exactly
yeah
and
that's
wonderful.
I
I
just
think
on
the
outgoing
piece
of
it.
If
you
check
in
with
the
student
and
check
them
with
the
principal
as
you're
writing
that
curriculum,
you
may
find
that
you
may
be
able
to
enrich
that
curriculum
that
you're
that's
already
enriched
and
richard
moore.
Thank
you.
B
B
Post
motion
passes,
eight
zero,
zero
and
speaking
of
involved
students.
Besides
our
own
student
on
the
board,
we
do
have
another
student
on
the
board
who
just
walked
in
the
room.
Christian
hodges
is
here,
he's
our
state
student
on
the
board.
Welcome
christian,
it's
good
to
see
you
yes
from
from
arundel.
I
just
can't
hide
that
wildcat
pride
go
ahead.
B
Thank
you
miss
truth.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
4.05
george
cromwell
elementary
school
feasibility
study.
This
is
an
information
to
action
item.
All
those
in
favor
of
moving
this
item
from
information
to
action.
Please
raise
your
hand.
Opposed
motion
passes
eight
zero,
zero.
We
now
have
an
action
item.
Mrs
perkins,
your
recommendation.
I
recommend.
B
AB
AA
AB
We
have
a
fairly
robust
and
structured
capital
improvement
program
here
in
anne
arundel
county
and
the
very
first
stage
of
that
process.
Once
you've
identified
the
project,
the
need
for
the
project
essentially
is
to
go
through
the
feasibility
study
and
the
feasibility
study
essentially
takes
a
look
at
whether
the
project
is
viable
and
analyzes
a
menu
of
options
by
which
one
can
go
about
discharging
that
project.
AB
Here
in
anne
arundel
county
for
each
and
every
school,
we
study
five
different
objects,
five
different
opportunities
or
options
for
you
to
consider
and
we'll
go
into
those
in
more
depth.
But
we
begin
with
the
do-nothing
approach,
which
essentially
is
exactly
that,
leaving
the
building
static
in
its
current
condition.
AB
We
do
a
patch
and
paint
review
of
the
project
of
the
building
and
the
pros
and
cons
and
cost
and
time
ramifications
associated
with
that
we
have
a
revitalization
option,
which
is
a
renovation
option.
With
addition,
we
have
a
modernization
option
which
is
again
a
renovation
option
with
additions,
and
then
we
have
the
replacement
option
at
the
other
range
of
extreme
and
again
for
each
and
every
one
of
those
we
go
through
the
pros,
the
cons,
the
cost
implications,
as
well
as
the
time
implications
for
those
options.
AB
The
purpose
of
conductive
study
is
critical,
because
not
only
does
it
set
the
course
for
the
project,
but
it's
also
a
critical
element
for
the
funding
aspect,
because
again,
remember
it
not
only
essentially
locks
in
the
validity
of
the
project
confirms
the
need
of
the
project,
but
sets
again
the
price
of
the
object.
With
that
information
for
that
project,
we
then
go
to
our
appropriating
authorities,
which
is
the
state
government
and
the
county
government,
to
ask
for
the
funds.
None
of
our
projects
can
go
forward
without
funding
from
the
state
and
the
county.
AB
It's
critical
that
we
conduct
a
feasibility
study,
because
when
we
approach
the
state
of
maryland
for
funding
consideration,
the
very
first
step
of
the
state
process
is
essentially
applying
for,
what's
called
local
planning
lp,
we
call
it
for
short,
but
local
planning
and
the
we
have
to
demonstrate
to
the
state
that
that
it's
a
viable
project
that
it's
a
needed
project.
The
project
meets
the
merits
of
the
state
system
and,
most
importantly,
that
once
a
need
or
concern
is
identified.
AB
It's
validated
and
we've
demonstrated
that
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
state
that
that
need
is
addressed
in
the
proper
manner
and
a
state
has
a
very
prescriptive
sort
of
methodology
to
go
through
weighing
those
options
that
any
locality
has
and
those
the
methodology
that
the
state
applies
here
in
anne
arundel
county
is
no
different
than
a
methodology.
That's
applied
to
any
of
the
other
counties
here
in
the
state
of
maryland,
because
capital
budgets
are
line.
AB
AB
They
do,
however,
participate
in
the
construction
portion,
so
the
construction,
the
hard
costs
of
any
project,
are
co-funded
by
both
the
state
of
maryland
and
the
county,
in
this
case
anne
arundel
county
and
then
finally,
on
the
back
end
of
the
project
when
it
comes
time
for
us
to
outfit
the
project
with
furnitures
fixtures,
equipments
and
material
of
instruction
elements
again.
That
is
an
expense
that
the
county
government
has
to
bear
and
not
have
any
help
from
the
state
to
finish
up
the
projects.
AB
They
will
certainly
get
the
recommendation
of
the
board
of
education,
just
as
the
county
government
will,
but
the
state
of
maryland
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
expertise
in
the
area.
Both
the
maryland
state
department
of
education,
as
well
as
the
maryland
state
department
of
general
services
and
the
maryland
state
department
of
planning,
has
subject
matter
experts
that
will
review
the
work
product
that
the
local
board
has
created
in
consultation
with
its
consultants
and
review
the
recommendations
of
that
board,
regarding
which
of
those
five
options
they
want
to
pursue.
AB
AB
They
will
fund
it
at
the
request
of
the
local
jurisdiction,
so
they
agree
with
the
findings
of
the
local
jurisdiction
they'll
under
math
mathematical
computations.
Hopefully
they
align
with
what
our
computations
are
for
a
project
and
they'll
fund
it
at
that
level
and
again,
that's
calibrated
to
the
requests,
but
if
the
state
does
not
agree
with
the
recommendation
of
the
board
or
the
findings
of
the
feasibility
study
in
the
final
vote
of
the
board,
the
state
has
essentially
three
options.
AB
The
total
replacement
of
a
building
in
many
cases
is
the
most
expensive
option.
If
the
state
were
to
find
using
their
own
independent
analysis,
their
own
subject
matter,
experts
that
the
building
could
be
successfully
renovated
at
a
lower
cost,
then
they
could
elect
to
fund
that
project
at
that
lower
level.
At
that
renovation
cost
level
and
the
cost
difference,
then
the
delta,
the
gap
between
the
cost
to
renovate
the
building
or
the
cost
to
replace
in
my
hypothetical
example,
would
get
transferred
to
the
local
jurisdiction.
AB
AB
AB
AB
We
also
create
10-year
projections
that
we
send
to
the
state
of
maryland,
they're
independently
audited
and
a
finding
is
made
by
the
local
planning
and
zoning
department
here
in
anne
arundel,
county
and
maryland
department
of
planning.
Regarding
those
10-year
projections
for
george
cromwell,
I
call
it
the
high
water
mark,
but
looking
out
across
that
10-year
time
horizon
the
highest
in
projected
enrollment
for
george
cromwell
was
319.
AB
The
proposed
state,
rated
capacity
that
we
are
recommending
for
this
school
is
365.,
so
there
will
be
capacity
within
the
school
for
what
comes
down
the
road.
That's
beyond
our
planning
horizon
again.
Our
planning
horizon
is
really
that
10-year
window
that
we
have
data
so
not
just
for
george
cromwell,
but
for
the
other
schools
we'll
be
building
an
additional
capacity
for
things
like
growth
and
development.
AB
That
may
happen
through
time
turnover
where
you
may
have
two
people
leaving
a
residence,
and
maybe
a
family
comes
in,
and
the
family
has
students
of
of
school
age,
etc.
So
we
always
want
to
build
in
some
capacity.
We
do
have
to
be
careful.
We
have
to
be
able
to
rationalize
and
defend
and
articulate
that
capacity.
Neither
the
state
government
nor
the
county
government
will
pay
for
excess
capacity
that
they
feel
is
unreasonable.
AB
If
they
feel
that
we're
building
in
more
capacity,
then
we
can
justify
or
rationalize
to
their
satisfaction
to
both
of
their
satisfactions
independently.
Then,
certainly
they
can
curtail
the
funding
for
a
school
based
on
that
capacity.
That
actually
has
happened
here
in
anne
arundel
county
in
the
past,
as
well.
AB
George
cromwell
was
built
in
1964
last
piece
of
information
to
walk
the
board
through
the
feasibility
study
that
was
created
by
smo
and
emmer
okovich
architects
and
their
consultants
in
consultation
and
work
with
the
school
base,
the
community
based
and
the
state
of
maryland
committee,
their
recommendation,
the
school-based
recommendation
for
the
project
is
option
c
revitalization
and
we'll
cover
that
it's
very
important
that
we
have
community
input
into
this
process.
Obviously
inclusive
of
the
school
and
the
community
central
office
staff.
The
state
of
maryland.
AB
AB
AB
The
second
option
that
we
look
at
is
called
patch
and
paint,
and
the
patch
and
paint
option
is
a
cosmetic,
improved
cosmetic,
only
essentially
improvement
to
the
building.
It
does
not
in
any
way
shape
or
form
improve
the
educational
environment
in
terms
of
its
compliance
with
the
educational
specifications
that
the
board
passes,
and
you
recall
that
the
board
of
education
does
for
each
and
every
grade
level
of
the
school
district
have
a
set
of
standardized
ed
specs
educational
specifications
that
are
essentially
our
benchmark
on
a
room
by
room
basis.
AB
What
size
does
a
room
need
to
be?
What
configuration
should
a
room
have
what
supports
or
accoutrements
should
that
room
have?
What
adjacencies
adjacency,
meaning
that
room
should
be
next
to
or
proximal
to
a
different
type
of
room,
etc.
The
patch
and
paint
option
does
not
in
any
way
shape
or
form
address
the
sizing,
the
adjacencies
etc.
AB
Nor
are
any
improvements
made
to
the
building's
infrastructure,
the
mechanical
electrical
plumbing
systems.
No
improvements
are
made
to
technology,
security,
etc,
and
no
attempt
is
made
in
the
patch
and
paint
option
to
address
any
identified.
Co-Deficiencies.
For
example,
the
88
american
disabilities
act
codes.
AB
AB
AB
AB
They
have
a
shared
space
that
is
used
both
for
the
cafeteria,
the
food
nutrition
program,
as
well
as
their
pe
program,
their
gym
program.
It
also
doubles,
as
their
public
assembly
space
for
any
activities
that
they
hold
during
hours
or
after
hours.
It's
also
the
space
that
they
utilize
for
rec
and
parks,
for
example,
and
for
their
school-aged
child
care
program.
So
it's
a
multi-purpose
facility,
our
ed
specs,
that
we
have
in
anne
arundel
county
do
not
allow
for
that
configuration
to
remain.
We
don't.
AB
AB
AB
There
are
obviously
costs
and
time
implications
in
making
that,
and
one
of
the
compromises
with
revitalization
is
that
we
are
not
going
to
tear
down
and
reconstruct
that
wall.
One
foot
over
to
take
that
870
square
foot
room
to
make
it
exactly
mathematically
equal
to
900,
which
is
what
the
expect
is.
AB
Other
items
like
site
improvements,
vehicular
traffic
improvements,
parking
counts
technology,
etc,
are
addressed
in
the
revitalization
option,
all
of
the
required
code
upgrades,
be
they
fire
codes,
ada
codes,
health
safety
codes,
etc.
Full
code
compliance
is
achieved
throughout
the
revitalization
option,
so
no
compromises
are
made
in
that
regard
in
a
modernization
option.
AB
The
key
differentiator
is
that
very
prescriptive,
albeit
almost
robotic
effort
to
come
into
total
and
complete
compliance
with
the
ed
specs.
So,
unlike
my
prior
example
under
under
revitalization,
where
we
did
not
take
down
that
cinder
block
wall,
move
it
over
12
inches
and
construct
it
because
we
were
trying
to
exactly
meet
900
square
feet
in
the
modernization
option,
we
will,
under
both
revitalization
and
modernization,
with
respect
to
all
newly
constructed
spaces.
As
I
said
earlier,
we'll
be
constructing
a
new
gymnasium,
any
new
space
we're
starting
from
scratch.
AB
So
any
newly
constructed
space
is
in
fact
designed
and
constructed
to
prescriptively
comply
with
what
the
ed
specs
require.
So
the
compromise
is
where
they
are
made
are
made
in
the
existing
portion
of
the
building,
where
you
have
existing
walls,
where
that
tolerance
level
is
no
greater
than
10
percent
and
you're,
making
a
value
and
judgment
decision
that
it
is
not
worth
or
in
the
best
interest
to
make
that
adjustment
again.
AB
As
long
as
we're
out
of
tolerance
by
less
than
10
replacement
option
is
exactly
what
it
is
replacement
option
is
the
construction
of
a
brand
new
school
from
the
ground
up
and
then
the
old
school
is
demolished
where
we
have
the
option
to
do
that
where
we
have
the
land
to
do
that.
Certainly
the
ideal
is
to
construct
the
school
from
scratch
ground
up
somewhere
else
on
the
property.
AB
In
some
cases,
we
will
relocate
them
off
premises.
For
example,
we've
recently
used
both
chesapeake
bay,
middle
school
and
annapolis
middle
school
as
holding
facilities
and
there's
certainly
some
trade-offs
with
having
the
children
and
the
staff
move
out
to
one
of
our
holding
facilities.
One
of
the
issues,
as
the
board
won't
know
well
knows
here
in
anne
arundel
county.
Unfortunately,
we
do
not
have
as
robust
a
system
of
holding
schools
as
one
might
like,
so
that
is
sort
of
a
limiting
factor.
AB
AB
So,
specifically
with
respect
to
george
cromwell
option
b,
the
patch
and
paint
option
you'll
see
that
the
building
as
it
sits
today
is
42
110
square
feet
once
completed.
The
building
will
remain
the
exact
same
size,
42
110
square
feet.
The
cost
to
undertake
those
cosmetic
improvements
that
I
referenced
earlier
would
be
approximately
1.2
million
dollars.
AB
The
next
level.
The
next
option.
Option
c
is
revitalization.
You
see,
we
start
with
the
existing
building.
Again.
Forty
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
ten
square
feet
once
completed.
The
building
will
be
sixty
three
thousand
hundred
125
feet
and
you'll
see
that
there's
some
selective
demolition
and
there
is
a
lot
of
addition,
because
again,
the
building
in
its
completed
state
has
to
meet
that
state
that
new
state
rate
of
capacity,
so
there's
no
con
compromises
at
all.
AB
So
you
see
the
finished.
Building
and
vitalization
will
be
63
125
square
feet,
the
cost
the
initial
upfront
cost
for
that
will
be
just
in
excess
of
13
and
a
half
million
dollars
of
hard
construction
costs
and
factoring
in
the
total
cost
of
ownership
over
a
40-year
lifespan,
inclusive
of
not
just
those
first
costs,
but
all
those
other
elements
I
articulated
earlier
will
be
21
million
dollars
slightly
in
excess
of
that.
AB
Our
design
professionals,
working
with
professionals
in
the
construction
community
would
estimate
that
revitalization
project
at
george
cromwell
would
take
27
months
to
discharge
once
construction
activity
actually
commenced,
so
that
doesn't
include
design
permitting,
etc.
So
it's
27
months
from
the
time
that
the
construction,
trailer
and
the
bulldozers
show
up
to
the
time
that
the
constructors
leave
and
the
building
has
been
outfitted
with
its
furniture
technology,
etc.
AB
AB
G
AB
AB
The
cost
is
16.1
million
dollars
in
terms
of
first
costs
and
over
a
40-year
life
cycle,
it's
23.2
million
dollars
and
again
our
design,
consultants
and
construction
experts
estimate.
It
will
take
27
months
of
time
to
complete
the
project
to
discharge
a
project
once
construction
activities
commence
and
finally,
the
replacement
option
the
replacement
option.
We
would
again
begin
with
that
42
110
square
foot,
building
that
building
would
be
demolished
in
its
entirety
and
a
new
building
would
be
put
up
in.
Instead,
the
new
building
would
have
61
107
square
feet
in
it
again.
AB
AB
I
always
like
to
begin
with
the
existing
floor
plan
for
the
building
you'll,
find
that
in
your
board,
exhibit
on
page
18.,
the
existing
site
plan
and
on
the
reverse,
the
existing
floor
plan
of
the
building,
and
remember
that
george
cromwell
is
a
1964
building.
So
you
know
it
was
built
built
to
the
educational
specifications
that
you
know
that
we
as
a
community
we
as
educators,
we
as
a
board
of
education,
felt
were
appropriate
back
then.
AB
AB
So
we
know
what
the
existing
building
is
and
I'm
not
going
to
spend
time
on
the
do-nothing
approach
and
I'm
not
going
to
spend
time
on
the
cosmetic
improvement
patch
and
paint
option.
But
we
will
spend
some
time
on
the
other
three
because
they
are
pretty
important
so
beginning
on
page
45
of
your
exhibit
you'll
see
the
site
plan
for
the
revitalization
and
in
the
revitalization
site
plan
on
page
45,
you'll
see
in
a
light
tan
area.
AB
The
existing
building
footprint
and
remember
very
little
demolition
would
occur
under
either
revitalization
or
modernization.
So
you're
not
going
to
see
a
lot
of
demolition
but
you'll,
see
in
the
darker
tan
shaded
area,
where
the
new
square
footage
for
the
school
would
be
constructed
essentially
to
create
a
circulation
pattern
within
a
building.
AB
AB
AB
In
that
again,
we're
going
to
be
trying
to
preserve
as
much
of
that
interior
structure
as
possible
again
as
long
as
it's
not
beyond
that
10
permissibility
range
and
on
page
46,
the
back
of
the
site
plan.
That's
before
you,
there
you'll
see
that
new
layout
and
the
layout
does
have
a
lot
of
those
adjacencies.
So,
for
example,
you'll
see
the
cafeteria
in
its
existing
location.
That
today
is
the
multi-purpose
room.
AB
Although
again,
some
of
those
elements
move
like
the
cafeteria
moves,
the
gymnasium
moves,
but
inside
in
all
those
areas
where
we
were
not
mathematically
compliant
or
prescriptively,
compliant
with
the
ed
specs.
We
in
fact
have
moved
those
walls,
by
whatever
degree,
necessary
to
make
sure
that
we
are
prescriptively
compliant
and
we've
put
in
toilets,
toilet
facilities,
restroom
facilities
within.
G
AB
AB
AB
The
design
of
the
building
is
on
the
reverse
side
of
that
site
plan
on
page
64,
and
it
would
follow
what
is
our
prototype
design.
The
board
does
know
and
recall
that
we've
essentially
created
a
scalable
prototype
that
prototype
really
has
been
in
use
since
1998
1999
and
we've
replicated
it
time
and
time
again
again,
it's
it's
modular,
so
we
can
expand
it
or
contract
it
to
what
the
needs
are.
The
sizing
needs
our
particular
building,
but
we
would
be
using
our
essentially
board
approved
prototype.
AB
The
only
thing
is
over
time,
prototypes
do
change
and
they
really
change
largely
based
on
code
compliance.
So,
for
example,
the
very
early
incarnations
of
this
building
of
our
prototype
design
were
not
leed
certified,
because
that
environmental
certification
was
not
even
existence
back
then,
but
it's
a
requirement
nowadays
that
newly
constructed
buildings
do
comply
with
those
environmental
regulations
in
terms
of
energy
conservation
and
building
features
so
over
time,
because
it's
a
code
requirement
just
like
fire
codes
evolve.
Accessibility
codes
evolve
technology
evolves.
AB
We
have
migrated
that
prototype
from
what
it
was
almost
20
years
ago
to
today,
but
the
prototype
still
essentially
remains
absent.
Those
modifications
that
we've
had
to
make
so
taking
you
back
to
the
executive
summary
of
your
report
and
again
that
executive
summary,
the
page.
I
want
to
bring
your
attention
back
to
is
page
seven,
the
printed
page,
seven
on
your
report.
AB
C
Thank
you,
mr
shaq.
No,
it
shows
very
detailed.
I
think
everybody
appreciates
the
work
that
you
do,
because
there
is
a
lot
that
goes
with
this.
As
you
know,
and
you
mentioned,
we
haven't-
had
a
feasibility
study
at
least
brought
in
from
the
board
since
2011,
and
you
did
mention
the
community
process.
Could
you
just
quickly,
though,
because
I
know
this
question
will
come
up
with
some
of
the
other
ones
talk
about
either
what
public
notice
or
what
discussion
involving
community
association
churches,
because
I
notice
in
particular
some
have
a
church
representative.
C
Somebody
have
a
community
association
representative.
How
are
those
folks
chosen?
How
is
it
involved?
You
know
just
for
the
transparency
perspective,
because,
as
you
know,
you
know
we
have
the
boy
scouts
here
tonight.
We
have
many
other
groups.
Churches
use
our
facilities,
boys,
boys
and
girls
club
park,
and
rex
schools
are
not
just
an
operation
beyond
the
day.
We
we
go
in
the
evening:
weekends,
they're,
24,
7
facilities.
C
AB
I'll
begin
the
answer
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
miss
seaman
crawford
in
her
group
to
talk
about
the
specifics
on
this
project.
We
essentially
go
to
the
school.
The
schools
know
their
communities,
they're
they're,
the
subject
matter,
experts
they
know
who
the
the
key
stakeholders
the
participants
are
in
their
school.
Certainly,
the
principal
is
the
administrative
leader
of
that
school
is
always
on
the
on
any
feasibility
study
group.
We
also
encourage
them
to
have
representation
from
the
other
elements
from
within
the
school,
and
that
would
be
obviously
their
teaching
faculty.
AB
In
many
cases,
they've
got
folks
from
the
facilities
or
operations
staff
represented,
sometimes
they've
got
their
business
staff,
but
we
allow
the
principal
of
that
school
to
work
with
her
staff
to
determine
his
or
her
staff
to
determine
who
the
appropriate
individuals
are.
We
also
have
extend
invitations
to
the
pta
and
to
the
cac
of
the
school,
because,
again
those
two
bodies
are
sort
of
representative
of
the
broader
group,
the
broader
community,
the
parents
et
cetera
many
times.
AB
Again,
we
look
to
the
principle
of
that
school
because
he
or
she
really
is
the
person
that
has
the
best
pulse
on
that
school
and
the
community
at
large.
That
team
is
then
augmented,
obviously
with
critical
players
from
our
facilities,
division,
our
own
architects,
engineers
and
construction
managers.
AB
We
hire
a
an
architectural
engineering
team
that
bring
their
experience
to
bear
not
just
again
in
the
realm
of
architecture,
but
the
various
engineering
disciplines
be
the
mechanical
electrical
plumbing,
be
they
structural,
be
they
site
civil
will
be
the
fire,
protection,
etc.
So,
there's
a
catara
of
design,
professionals
that
are
helping
us
navigate
the
way
through
the
process
and
finally,
here
in
the
state
of
maryland,
because
the
state
is
a
big
player
and
a
participant
and
actually
will
be
a
receiver
of
this
document
at
some
stage
down
the
road.
AB
The
state
of
maryland
always
has
afforded
the
opportunity
to
have
a
representative
on
the
committee
and,
in
fact,
in
all
three
cases
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
this
evening,
the
state
of
maryland
elected
to
have
one
of
their
architects
from
the
maryland
state
department
of
education
sit
on
the
panel.
So
that's
the
general
construct
of
it.
AA
The
only
thing
I
do
want
to
add
is
that
the
group
that
we
used
for
the
feasibility
study,
design
team
is
a
similar
group
that
we
use
for
the
ed
specs.
So
most
of
the
time
that
same
group
moves
through
depending
upon
how
the
project's
funded-
and
it
is
a
requirement
of
the
state
that
we
have
these
members,
a
cac.
A
pta
representative
on
the
group,
and
then
we
like
alex,
has
mentioned.
We
work
with
the
principal
to
look
at
the
community
to
add
anyone
that
we
feel
would
be
a
benefit
to
the
group.
AB
And
mr
elkowitz
from
small,
has
conducted
many
many
of
these
across
the
state.
We've
been
fortunate
that
he's
in
fact
conducted
a
number
of
these
for
us
and
from
a
technical
perspective,
because
we
actually
look
to
our
ae
team
to
navigate
the
process,
develop
the
information,
inform
the
community
and
put
them
in
a
position
where
they
can
make
an
informed
decision.
So
I'd
like
mr
okovich
to
take
a
few
minutes
sort
of
from
start
to
finish,
to
explain
to
you
how
they
as
design
professionals,
assist
us
in
that
endeavor.
AL
We
come
back
with
the
committee
and
share
our
findings
and,
and
those
findings
also
come
to
instruction
on
how
the
building
is
used
when
certain
spaces
aren't
used
for
their
intended
purposes
or
or
purposes
that
exist
now.
That
perhaps
did
not
exist
when
the
building
was
built
now
are
taking
other
spaces
that
that
should
be
used
as
classrooms
or
the
like
or
unsafe
conditions
on
the
site,
vehicle
circulation,
pedestrian
pathways
and
the
like.
So
we
bring
that
all
back
share.
AL
Our
findings
with
the
committee
and
then
the
committee
will
typically
share
what
their
experiences
are
in
the
building
with
us
and
that
that
really
sums
up
the
information
gathering
that
first
step
of
the
process.
Once
information
is
gathered,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
take
that
back
and
and
start
to
develop
concepts,
and
we
don't
necessarily
design,
consider
these
designs
but
they're,
a
thesis
against
which
to
test
each
of
these
options.
AL
We
bring
those
concepts
back
review
them
with
the
committee
and
then
get
feedback.
That
feedback
is
then
formalized
into
the
next
step
in
which
we
kind
of
evolve
and
generate
real
three
to
five
options
that
we
then
reevaluate
with
the
committee
get
feedback
again
and
develop
into
what
we
have
here
today,
which
is
the
fourth
step
in
the
the
preparation
of
the
technical
document,
the
engineering,
the
the
environmental
impacts
of
these
projects
and
all
the
background
that
goes
into
the
document
you
have
before
you
today.
So
that's
really.
The
feasibility
study
process
now.
AB
The
one
critical
element
that
ms
seema
crawford
and
mr
ilkovic
left
out
is
when
we
work
with
the
community-based
committees.
We
do
not
purposely,
we
do
not
share
with
them
the
cost,
analyses
or
the
time
implications
per
se,
because
we
want
them
to
make
decisions
that
are
instructional
that
are
programmatic,
etc.
So
those
options
are
developed
through
through
the
phases
and
once
the
work
product
is
fully
developed
and
the
design
team
then
turns
over
those
options
to
constructors
professional
cost.
AB
AB
Again,
that
is
not
shared
with
the
committee.
While
the
committee
is
doing
that
body
of
work
because
we
want
them
to
focus
on
the
the
building
on
the
program
etc,
not
really
be
focused
on
the
costs,
cost
is
a
real
ramification
clearly
as
well
as
time.
So,
the
committee
makes
its
recommendation
on
which
of
those
five
options
they
wish
to
recommend
to
the
superintendent,
absent
cost
and
time
implications.
AB
We
then,
as
staff
meet
with
the
superintendent
of
schools,
and
we
review
the
entire
feasibility
study
report
with
the
superintendent.
We
go
through
the
various
options.
The
pros
and
cons
go
through
the
drawings,
the
site
conditions
etc
with
the
superintendent.
But
the
superintendent
is
again
unlike
the
committee,
when
they
were
doing
their
major
body
of
work.
The
superintendent
is
presented
with
the
cost
implications,
both
the
initial
costs,
the
cost
of
ownership
over
that
40-year
lifespan
and
then
what
the
constructability
implications
are
in
terms
of
the
duration
of
that
construction
project.
AB
O
O
and
so
we're
moving
buses,
we're
moving
cars
that
have
to
turn
left
to
go
back
up
and
over
97
closer
to
97..
And
so
I
would
just
you
know
further
west.
I
would
just
offer
that
as
something
to
consider
and
a
concern
relative
to
now.
All
of
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
coming
off
of
olin
drive,
and
so
it's
a
concern.
O
AL
O
Do
today
the
reason
I
ask
the
question
is
because
now
we're
going
to
put
the
hard
surface
play
area
with
kindergarteners,
first,
second,
third
graders
that
are
going
to
be
closer
to
storm
water
management.
So
it's
a
concern
if
it's
above
ground,
where
you've
got
little
kids,
that
you
know
they
end
up
getting
off
the
hard
surfaces
if
there
are
ways
to
mitigate
that
from
a
risk
standpoint
fence
around
it,
things
of
that
nature
to
keep
kids
from
going
towards
the
two
trees.
O
O
The
the
other
thing
on
page
40-
I
guess
it
would
be
46,
which
is
on
the
back
side
of
what
we
were
just
looking
at
page
45,
where
we
talk
about
the
the
gem
and
the
cafetorium
right
now.
If
you
look
at
the
whole
replacement
school,
the
in
the
in
between
the
cafetorium
and
the
gym,
there's
what
is
very
clearly
annotated
as
folding
wall
petitions
and
this
particular
option
c
revitalization.
O
It
looks
to
me
like
the
same
type
of
wall
that
the
kitchen
has,
which
is
an
actual
hard
wall.
I
believe
that
there
should
be
some
ability
for
the
principal
and
the
staff
to
have
a
folding
access
wall,
which
would
be
different
from
a
design
standpoint
up
on
the
design
here.
So
if
you
all
could
potentially
consider
that,
I
would
I'd
greatly
appreciate
it
and
then
two
more
things,
and
then
I'm
done
the
first
one
being
back
on
page
65
under
the
replacement.
O
Just
to
make
sure
I
understand,
under
replacement
on
page
65
area
of
existing
building
replacement,
it's
forty
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
ten
gross
square
feet,
and
then
the
demolition
portion
is
forty.
Two
thousand
one
hundred
square
feet:
what
is
what's
the
ten
square
feet?
We're
not
demolishing.
I.
O
Okay,
fair
enough
and
then
the
last
item
on
page
two
under
olin
under
the
community,
mr
pruske
talked
a
little
bit
about
amber
and
danielle
being
the
community
representatives,
but
have
we
taken
the
time
for
the
couple
of
houses
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
on
olin
drive
to
have
a
conversation
relative
to
the
increased
traffic
along
olin
drive?
Now
we're
steering
all
the
bus
traffic
as
well
as
all
the
car
traffic
and
more
or
less
really
it's
more
all
of
the
car
traffic.
O
That's
going
to
be
going
down,
olin
drive
now
because
they
don't
have
that
level
of
traffic
today
have
we
had
some
of
that?
I
know.
We've
got
community
members
that
are
listed
here,
but
have
we
reached
out
to
at
least
those
specific
homes
that
are
right
in
that?
And
there
are
not
a
lot
of
them.
There
are
only
a
few.
There
may
be
six
before
you
turn
left
to
go
into
the
school
and
drive,
but
have
we
had
a
conversation
about?
AB
We
have
not
specifically
because,
as
you
can
tell
there's,
you
know
a
lot
of
variability
depending
on
which
options
you
do.
As
mr
okovitz
said
to
begin
with,
the
the
feasibility
studies
are,
I
mean
they're
concept,
drawings,
they're,
very
strong
concept,
drawings.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are,
you
know,
they're
taken
into
concert
there,
but
we're
going
to
go
just
like
with
every
project.
AB
If
and
when
we're
funded
for
design
and
we
go
to
pursue
whichever
option
the
board
ultimately
directs
us
to,
and
the
state
concurs
with
we're
going
to
go
through
a
very
extensive
design
process
that
will
take
us
over
a
year
and
so
all
of
the
code,
compliance
issues,
the
traffic
engineering
studies,
the
site
traffic
counts,
the
you
know,
angles
of
which
roads
whether
we
need
an
axle
lane,
a
diesel
lane.
All
of
those
things
are
going
to
have
to
be
evaluated
during
that
much
more
detailed
design,
phase
and
they'll
have
to
be.
AB
You
know
agreeable
to
the
county's
bureau
of
traffic
engineering,
the
planning
zoning
department,
et
cetera,
just
like
the
storm
water
management
here
in
anne
arundel
county.
You
know
that
storm
water
management,
really
environmental
controls
is,
is
one
of
our.
You
know
sort
of
monikers
here
we're
very
proud
of
the
environmental
protection
measures
that
we
put
into
place
for
green
sprays
and
trees
and
water
quality,
water,
quantity,
etc
from
storm
water.
AB
So
we'll
be
working
with
the
county,
folks
in
planning
and
zoning
and
in
the
building
department
to
make
sure
that
the
design
fully
complies
with
the
with
the
county
and
state
storm
water
management
requirement,
inclusive
of,
for
example,
they
have
very
prescriptive
requirements
about
fencing
and
depth
of
stormwater
management
ponds,
etc.
So
all
of
that
type
of
thing
will
be
delved
into
very
heavily
and
then.
Finally,
if
you
thought
the
number
of
community
meetings
do
we
have
here,
mr
pruske
asked
about
that.
AB
O
You
et
cetera,
so
I'm
totally
with
you
all,
I'm
really,
I
guess
asking
or
begging
is
that
by
the
time
when
we
approve
this,
the
general
concept
of
moving
to
olin
drive
is,
for
the
most
part
for
the
most
part
going
to
be
set.
It's
going
to
take
an
act
of
congress
in
order
to
move
it
from
being
on
that
road.
O
M
B
B
B
AB
AM
B
AB
AB
The
enrollment,
however,
at
jessup
today
is
483,
so
it
is
over
capacity
as
it
sits
today
and
taking
a
look
out
over
our
10-year
planning
horizon
that
enrollment
stays
at
about
that
level.
So
800
481
going
out
over
that
10-year
horizon
the
proposed
school,
the
ed
specs,
are
approved
by
the
board
of
education,
has
a
state
rating
capacity
of
575.
AB
That
area,
unlike,
for
example,
cromwell,
that's
fairly
developed
and
is,
in
fact
having
turnover,
but
not
a
lot
of
growth
and
development.
While
there
are
not
many
projects
currently
approved
and
on
the
books
for
175
corridor
and
jessup
jessup
is
in
fact
the
175
corridor
is
a
growth
area.
There
is
land
there
that
can
be
developed
pretty
robustly,
and
we
know
that
over
time
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
cape,
the
capacity
essentially
to
absorb
that
growth.
AB
So
when
we
went
through
the
ed
spec
process,
we
recommended
that
575
be
the
appropriate
state
rate.
A
capacity.
Those
head
specs
were
in
fact
shared
with
the
state
of
maryland
as
well,
which
is
one
of
our
requirements,
and
their
review
of
the
project
at
that
stage
did
in
fact
confirm
that
575
was
supportable.
That
will,
however,
be
reanalyzed
once
again
once
this
feasibility
study
goes
to
them
and
we
go
through
that
planning
process.
AB
Just
elementary
school
was
constructed
in
1955
and
has
seen
a
number
of
additions
occur
onto
the
school
over
time
as
time
marched
forward.
Unfortunately,
many
of
those
additions
were
were
not.
You
know,
really
planned
out.
Very
well
or
organized
very
well,
so
the
building
that
sits
there
today
does
have
a
lot
of
issues
concerning
multiple
levels.
AB
So
certainly
accessibility
is
a
big
issue
within
the
building
ada
compliance
specifically
and
the
way
that
it
was
constructed.
You've
got
a
lot
of
disjointed
pieces
that
thematically
really
don't
fit
very
well
with
one
another,
and
that's
some
of
the
information
that
we
hope
to
elaborate
upon
this
evening.
As
we
begin
with
the
george
cromwell
project.
If
you
turn
to
page
one
of
your
exhibit
you'll
see
the
team.
AB
The
executive
summary
for
the
various
options
begin
on
page
three
of
the
report
and
I'll
skip
the
do
not
do
nothing
option
because
that's
always
our
baseline,
but
under
the
patch
and
paint
once
again,
we'll
patch
and
repair
on
page
four
you'll
see
we'll
patch
and
repair
portions
that
are
facilitated,
aren't
in
currently
in
working
order.
Really,
it's
gonna
be
a
cosmetic
improvement
of
the
facility.
No
attempt
is
going
to
be
made
to
address
systemic
mechanical
electrical
plumbing
deficiencies.
AB
For
example,
no
efforts
will
be
made
to
address
technology
deficiencies
and
no
efforts
would
be
made
to
bring
the
building
into
compliance
with
either
what
the
board
approved.
Educational
specification
is,
or
code
compliance
per
se,
because
the
building
essentially
is
grandfathered
into
certain
code
provisions.
We
would
not
undertake
those
efforts
that
would
move
the
building
forward
from
that
grandfathered
code.
Compliance
status
to
what
the
status
of
a
newly
constructed
or
renovated
building
would
be
under
the
revitalization
option.
AB
As
with
cromwell,
though,
we
do
make
that
that
judgment
on
the
size
and
configuration
of
the
spaces
where
those
spaces
can
be
reused
or
repurposed
and
are
within
that
10
tolerance,
10
or
less.
We
will
once
again
not
tear
down
a
masonry
wall,
that's
in
good
order
and
move
it
over
modestly
and
reconstruct
it
again
to
make
it
mathematically
align,
which
is
in
fact
what
we
would
do
in
a
modernization.
So
again
under
revitalization.
We
will
not
move
that
wall,
that
hypothetical
12
inches
that
I
talked
about
earlier.
AB
All
of
the
I
call
it
the
heart
and
lung
of
the
building.
So
the
major
infrastructure
elements
of
the
building,
the
planning,
the
the
plumbing,
the
heating
ventilation,
air
conditioning,
the
fire
safety
features,
the
technology
features,
the
security
features
etc.
All
of
those
again
heart
and
lung
elements
of
the
building,
though,
would
get
comprehensively
upgraded
and
or
replaced
to
bring
them
into
the
state
of
current
as
well
under
revitalization
option.
Again,
we
would
address
those
slight
issues,
things
like
parking
issues,
things
like
play,
field
issues,
recreational
activities,
gymnasium
space,
etc.
AB
AB
We
would
in
fact
renovate
the
building
more
extensively
extensively,
in
fact,
to
make
sure
that
the
building
prescriptively
complied
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
the
exact
square
foot
requirement
of
what
the
board
approved
ed
specs
were.
So
you
know,
if
we're
short
three
and
a
half
percent
or
one
and
a
half
percent,
we'll
do
what
it
takes.
AB
Essentially,
to
make
it
a
hundred
percent
sized
correctly,
all
the
other
elements
that
I
spoke
to
under
revitalization
option
again:
the
heart
and
lungs
of
the
building,
the
hvac,
the
fire
safety
elements,
the
technology
elements,
plumbing,
etc.
All
of
those
elements
would
be
addressed
under
a
modernization
option
and
we
would
wherever
practical
or
feasible
as
well.
We
would
put
in
individualized,
restroom
and
toileting
facilities
within
the
classroom
to
the
maximum
extent
possible.
AB
The
site
features
would
be
addressed
similarly,
so
deficiencies
in
in
site,
accessibility
in
traffic,
I'm
sorry
in
a
traffic
handling
and
parking
space,
counts,
etc
would
be
similarly
reviewed
and
you'll
see
that
in
the
modernization
option,
actually
the
number
of
parking
spaces
would
increase
slightly
more
than
a
revitalization
option.
It
would
increase
by
29
spaces
up
to
a
total
of
115,
but
the
building
once
again
would
be
properly
sized
for
the
student
body
count
for
the
right
number
of
instructional
spaces
etc.
AB
You'll
see
that
the
patch
and
paint
option
the
building
doesn't
expand
square
footage
wise.
The
initial
cost
of
construction
construction
would
be
about
2.1
million
dollars
and
over
a
40-year
lifetime,
the
cost
of
ownership
essentially
doing
little
to
nothing,
would
be
about
13.2
million
dollars
under
revitalization.
AB
The
existing
building
is
83
868
square
feet.
The
building
under
revitalization
option
would
expand
up
to
101
000,
almost
102
000
square
feet
in
size.
The
initial
construction
cost
would
be
about
23.6
million
dollars
and
the
life
the
cost
of
ownership
over
a
40-year
life
cycle
analysis
would
be
35.6
million
dollars
under
the
modernist.
I'm
sorry-
and
it
would
take
27
months
to
discharge,
neglected
to
say
that
under
the
modernization
option,
you'll
see
we
start
out
with
the
same
exact
building,
but
the
finished
product
instead
of
being
101
000
square
feet
under
revitalization
option.
AB
Under
the
modernization
option,
it
would
be
approximately
97
000
square
feet.
The
initial
cost
of
discharging
the
modernization
option
would
be
29.9
million
dollars
and
over
a
40-year
lifespan
it
would
be
40.8
million
dollars.
Just
under
that
and
finally
replacement
and
again
I'm
sorry,
it's
27
months
to
do
that.
AB
Work,
replacement,
option,
option
e
would
have
a
24
month,
duration,
the
entire
existing
building
would
be
demolished
and
reconstructed
anew
the
finished
product,
the
finished
building
would
be
84
372
square
feet,
the
initial
cost
would
be
24.5
million
dollars
and
the
total
cost
of
ownership
over
time
would
be
33.4
million
dollars.
And
if
we
can
stay
on
that
page,
just
a
little
bit
longer
to
take
a
look
at
it
in
summation.
AB
AB
Really
it's
almost
right
on
the
road
there
at
175,
which
is
a
very
high
speed
and
very
heavily
trafficked
main
road
that
connects
vw.
Parkway,
connects
I-95
and
really
is
a
route
that
many
folks
that
live
up
in
baltimore,
county
howard,
county
et
cetera,
utilize
to
access
anne
arundel
county
and
specifically
to
access
a
lot
of
the
fort
meade.
The
nsa
military-industrial
complex
intelligence,
complex,
that's
up
in
that
part
of
the
county,
so
the
existing
building.
AB
Recommendation
is
for
replacement,
and
the
replacement
option
is
on
page
101
and
you'll,
see
that
dash
very
tight
against
route.
175
you'll
see
that
in
the
dash
line
you
see
where
the
building
used
to
be
there
right
against
175,
we
would
construct
a
brand
new
building
on.
What
today
is
the
multi-purpose
room
to
play
field
behind
the
existing
school?
The
children
would
remain
in
the
jessup
elementary
school
facility.
AB
During
the
course
of
that
construction
we
would
construct
new
play
fields
and
new
parking
areas
surrounding
the
brand
new
building
and
at
the
completion
of
that
project
we
would
then
demolish
the
existing
building
that
directly
fronts
route
175
and
that
essentially,
would
be
turned
back
into
green
space
and
serve
as
a
buffer
from
the
traffic
and
the
noise.
That's
along
175..
B
B
B
G
AB
The
school-based
planning
advisory
committee
recommended
replacement,
option
e
replacement
and,
as
you
just
heard,
the
superintendent's
recommended
option
c.
Revitalization,
the
members
of
the
planning
committee
for
the
arnold
elementary
school
feasibility
study
are
depicted
on
page.
One
of
your
report
again
has
school
community,
central
office
and
state
of
maryland
entities
represented
on
the
planning
committee.
In
addition
to
our
architects
and
our
engineering
consultants,
the
executive
summary
for
the
project
begins
on
page
three
again
with
customary:
do
nothing
in
patch
and
paint.
AB
Options:
option
c
revitalization,
much
like
the
projects
that
we've
addressed
before
the
revitalization
option
has
renovations
to
the
existing
building.
It
also
has
a
series
of
targeted
renovations,
I'm
sorry
targeted
additions
onto
the
building
to
ensure
that
the
building
is
right,
sized
both
to
the
state
rated
capacity.
The
new
state
rate
capacity
of
the
building,
as
well
as
programmatically,
does
have
the
right
number
of
elements
for
a
number
of
teaching
stations
right:
number
of
public
assembly
spaces
support
spaces,
et
cetera,
to
comply
with
that
ed
spec.
AB
The
prescriptive
requirements
of
the
ed
spec,
the
wall,
that
subdivided
that
room
from
an
adjacent
room
would
not
be
taken
down
in
a
revitalization
option
and
then
move
the
critical
elements,
such
as
again
mechanical
systems,
plumbing
systems,
electrical
protection,
features,
security,
features,
technology
features
all
of
those
heart
and
lungs
of
the
building
would
all
be
upgraded
and
or
replaced
to
comply
with
current
building
requirements.
Current
mechanical
electrical
plumbing
requirements
and
a
current
state
of
technology
and
fire
code
compliance
the
building,
would
obviously
have
the
natural
naturally
expected
cosmetic
improvements.
AB
AB
The
finished
project
and
revitalization
traffic
parking
has
been
a
big
issue
at
arnold
and
that's
been
long
recognized
under
revitalization
option.
52
additional
spaces
would
be
added
to
the
parking
configuration
there.
Taking
the
total
number
of
parking
spaces
from
62
to
114
increased
in
approved
emergency
vehicle
access
would
be
provided
to
the
school.
AB
The
parent
drop-off
area
would
be
improved
from
its
current
configuration.
There
will
be
a
dedicated
lane
adjacent
to
the
side
of
the
building,
to
facilitate
parent
drop
offs
and
queuing
for
cars.
Looking
to
discharge
or
pick
up
their
youngsters
in
the
morning
or
in
the
afternoon,
natural
daylighting
would
be
provided
would
be
introduced
into
all
of
the
instructional
areas
within
the
building,
some
of
which
does
not
currently
exist.
AB
AB
Toilets
would
be
constructed
not
in
every
room,
but
some
toilets
and
restrooming
capacity
would
be
added
to
the
building
and
then,
finally,
again
all
the
other
code
compliant
elements
would
be
addressed
under
modernization.
Really,
the
differentiator
is
again.
We
would
in
fact
be
moving
all
of
those
interior
partitions
where
necessary,
and
by
all
I
mean
each
and
every
one,
essentially
where
it's
feasible
to
comply
with
the
prescriptive
requirements
of
the
ed
spec.
All
of
the
other
elements
that
we
talked
about
for
revitalization,
many
of
those
do
stay
the
same.
AB
There
are
a
couple
key
differentiators.
Obviously,
in
addition
to
moving
those
interior
walls,
there
will
be
some
other
rearrangement
within
the
space
and
we'll
go
over
those
in
a
little
bit.
Parking
would
be
increased
by
77
spaces,
so
it
would
go
from
62
to
139,
which
would
be
a
little
bit
more
than
under
revitalization
option.
AB
Things
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
like
the
fire
lane
and
emergency
vehicle
access
would
be
expanded.
A
multi-purpose
field
would
be
reconfigured
and
increased
in
size.
Modestly,
the
parent
drop-off
issue
gets
addressed
once
again
by
having
a
dedicated
lane.
That's
adjacent
to
the
side
of
the
building
for
parental
drop-offs
for
arrivals
and
dismissal.
AB
The
administration
space
for
the
building
would
actually
get
shifted.
The
building
and
we'll
see
this
later.
If
you
view
the
floor,
plans
will
get
shifted
to
be
more
centrally
located.
It's
actually
offset
a
little
bit
off
center
from
the
building,
so
the
admin
space
would
get
shifted
to
be
centrally
located
within
the
building.
Once
again,
program
areas
will
be
brought
into
conformance
with
ed
specs.
AB
For
the
new
cons,
schools
would
be
the
establishment
of
a
brand
new
facility
on
the
site,
taking
a
look
at
the
specifics
in
terms
of
the
the
dollar
implications
and
the
time
elements
the
patch
and
paint
option.
The
building,
as
I
said
earlier,
was
fifty
six
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
five
gross
square
feet.
It
would
remain
as
such.
The
patch
and
paint
option
would
cost
just
under
1.6
million
dollars
initially,
and
the
cost
of
ownership
over
a
40-year
life
cycle
would
be
just
under
9
million.
AB
In
total,
the
revitalization
option
would
take
27
months
to
complete
the
students
would
be
able
to
remain
there
at
the
site
while
we're
doing
revitalization
option
just
like
we
currently
are
doing
in
mills
parole
at
crofton
elementary
school
at
any
number
of
schools
throughout
the
county.
It
will
take
27
months
to
do
that.
Renovation
work
there
and
expansion
under
revitalization
option.
The
existing
25.2
thousand
square
foot
building
would
be
increased
to
just
over
81
000
square
feet.
AB
The
initial
cost
of
doing
revitalization
option
will
be
just
under
20.4
million
dollars.
That's
again
the
initial
cost
of
construction
and
over
a
40-year
time
period,
the
cost
of
ownership
would
be
just
under
30
million
dollars,
so
29.98
million
dollars.
Modernization
would
again
take
that
same
27-month
duration.
AB
000
square
feet
will
be
increased
slightly
larger
under
the
vitalization
option.
It
is
more
expensive
the
cost
on
the
revit,
I'm
sorry,
the
cost
of
the
modernization
option
would
increase
over
revitalization.
The
initial
cost
would
be
26.4
million
dollars
and
over
a
40-year
time
period
it
will
be
35.7
million
dollars.
AB
Finally,
the
replacement
option:
option
e
would
take
24
months
to
discharge
due
to
the
configuration
of
the
site.
Further
analysis
would
have
to
be
done
to
see
if,
in
fact,
the
students
could
remain
there
at
the
site.
The
the
new
construction
would
be
taking
place
on
the
hill
above
the
school
and
whether
the
constructability
of
that
site
would
allow
for
the
existing
school
to
remain
while
the
new
school
is
being
constructed
above
is
still
in
question.
AB
So
some
further
analysis
would
have
to
be
done,
unlike
the
other
two
that
the
students
would
remain
throughout
the
course
of
the
construction
project
under
replacement.
That
is
a
yet
to
be
resolved
issue.
There
might
be
a
requirement
that
the
students
be
relocated
to
either
our
chesapeake
bay
middle
school
holding
facility
or
the
annapolis
middle
school
holding
facility.
As
I
said,
it
will
take
24
months
to
execute
the
existing
building
would
be
demolished
in
its
entirety
and
would
be
replaced
with
a
new
84.4
000
square
foot
facility.
AB
The
initial
cost
would
be
26.4
million
dollars
and
the
cost
of
ownership
over
a
40-year
life
cycle
would
be
35.8
million
dollars
for
those
of
you
that
need
a
refresher
for
how
arnold
elementary
school
is
currently
configured.
That
existing
floor
plan
is
depicted
on
page
27.
Both
the
site
plan
on
on
the
pages
immediately
following
page
27
is
the
floor
plan
for
the
building
revitalization,
which
is
the
option
that
is
recommended
by
the
superintendent
of
schools.
AB
AB
The
areas
that
are
in
a
darker
orange
color
on
page
63
will
be
areas
that
will
be
newly
constructed
expanded
for
the
school
building.
Again
you'll
see
that
there
is
a
dedicated
drop-off
area.
The
bus
loop
remains
essentially
in
its
existing
configuration
and
you'll
see
where
the
current
parking
lot
that
accommodates
approximately
52
parked
vehicles
would
be
extend
expanded
with
additional
parking
to
the
northwest.
Of
that
that
would
accommodate
an
adult
another
62
students
or
62
vehicles.
AB
Arnold
elementary
school
is
a
two-story
building,
so
on
page
65
and
67
you'll
see
the
floor
plans
for
both
the
upper
and
the
lower
levels,
noteworthy
on
page
65,
again
much
like
the
discussion
we
had
at
cromwell,
where
the
school
at
present
again
has
that
multi-purpose
room.
So
you
have
that
singular
public
assembly
space.
That
functions
is
both
its
cafeteria.
It's
gymnasium
space,
it's
public
assembly
space,
it's
music
space
and
after
our
space
that
would
get
corrected
by
the
construction
of
a
brand
new
gymnasium.
AB
The
gymnasium
would
be
in
the
same
location
as
as
the
music
functions
as
well.
The
gymnasium
would
be
constructed
on
the
opposite
end
of
the
building
and
a
new
before
and
after
care
area.
Because
again
we
partner
with
reckon
parks
in
terms
of
the
sac,
the
school
wage
child
care
program,
a
new
before
and
after
care
area
would
be
constructed
for
the
school.
The
main
entrance
would
remain
in
its
current
location.
As
they
previously
said,
the
lower
level
of
the
school
is
depicted
on
page
67.
O
AB
Well,
I
can't
speak
for
the
advisory
committee,
but
I
believe
a
new
school
essentially
speaks
for
itself.
It's
a
total
replacement
of
the
existing
facility
with
a
brand,
a
new
facility
there
on
the
site.
So
the
you
know,
the
attributes
of
a
new
facility
are
exactly
that.
Our
new
facility,
it's
one
of
our
prototype
schools
and
would
prescriptively
comply
with
the
educational
specifications,
the
revitalization
juxtaposed.
Against
that
a
couple
points
I
guess
to
lead
into
it.
AB
The
easiest
way
I've
been
able
to
explain
that
to
most
folks
is
that
they
encourage
you
to
be
able
to
resolve
your
issues,
your
deficiencies
at
the
lowest
common
denominator.
So
that's
done
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
One
cost
is
a
consideration.
Many
many
times
the
lowest
common
denominator
in
terms
of
your
pallet
of
options,
sometimes
is
less
costly,
although
not
always-
and
we
have
seen
options
here
as
well.
AB
For
that
several
other
issues.
Obviously,
you
know
arnold
elementary
school
in
terms
of
a
structural
perspective
is
a
very
sound
building
and
we've
got
many
many
buildings
around
that
have
lasted
for
a
lot
longer.
You
know
than
arnold
elementary
school
constructed
in
1967.
So
a
lot
of
the
issues
with
arnold
really
aren't.
You
know
the
bricks
and
mortar
elements
of
the
building.
A
lot
of
the
concerns
that
we've
had
at
arnold
over
time,
for
example,
are
with
things
like
humidity,
climate
control,
moisture
control
within
the
building,
etc.
AB
You
know
when
the
when
this
building
was
constructed
back
in
the
1960s.
We
really
didn't
have
the
same
level
of
understanding
or
expertise
that
we
do
now,
for
example,
in
the
area
of
hvac,
so
the
kind
of
hvac
systems,
heating
ventilation,
air
conditioning
dehumidification
systems
that
are
available
to
design
professionals.
You
know
such
as
grim
and
parker
and
their
consultants
is
vastly
expanded
and
we
have
a
lot
better
handle
on
not
just
the
issues
but
the
palette
of
options,
the
the
different
systems
and
methodologies
that
we
can
go
about
addressing
it.
AB
Any
of
us
who
have
been
to
to
florida
or
southern
parts
of
the
united
states
louisiana
et
cetera.
You
know
that
their
climate
is
much
more
humid.
They
get
much
more
rain,
etc
than
we
do
here,
and
each
and
every
day
we
successfully
construct
schools,
hospitals,
hotels,
nursing
homes,
high-rises
office
buildings,
you
name
it
in
the
southern
regions
of
the
state
states
to
acceptable.
AB
You
know,
interior
climate
conditions.
You
know
the
key
is
assessing
the
building,
assessing
the
environment
and
making
the
right
match.
Based
on
that
access
that
assessment
between
what
mechanical
systems
you
select
to
properly
control
and
condition
that
environment
different
climatology,
obviously
but
different
building
configurations
the
way
they're
configured
amount
of
shading,
the
orientation
with
respect
to
the
sun,
the
amount
of
rainfall
to
experience
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
considerations
that
go
into
the
mechanical
engineers
decisions
here
with
the
building.
AB
You
know
things
like
the
windows,
the
roofs
of
the
building,
a
lot
of
the,
for
example,
where
cracks
exist
within
a
building
the
doors
to
the
building,
et
cetera,
even
under
revitalization,
just
like
in
replacement.
Those
are
all
going
to
get
replaced
even
in
the
revitalization,
so
the
envelope
of
the
building
will
be
a
lot
more
robust,
a
lot
more
target
hardened
per
se
against
some
of
those
external
environments,
and
so
again
the
the
architects
and
engineers
looking
into
building
will
take
a
look
at
the
building.
AB
Not
only
the
way
it
sits
today,
but
they'll
take
into
account.
There's
other
improvements
to
ensure
that
the
mechanical
systems,
the
plumbing
systems,
the
electrical
systems
etc
that
they
choose
are
a
right
fit
for
that
building,
as
it
will
exist
for
the
next
40
years,
as
opposed
to
the
way
that
that
building
existed
for
the
last
45
years.
AB
That
no,
that
certainly
is,
is
one
of
the
considerations
I
mean
you
know
the
the
duration
of
the
construction
project,
whether
the
students
can
be
retained
there
or
not,
is
certainly
a
factor
that
we
take
into
account
because
again
we
have
a
very
limited
holding
capacity.
If
we
have
to
move
the
students
out
of
out
of
arnold,
we
really
only
have
two
choices,
principally
we
can
either
move
them
to
annapolis
middle
school
annapolis,
middle
school.
You
know
right
now:
houses
annapolis
elementary
will
soon
house
west
annapolis.
AB
But
if
you
take
a
look
at
our
capital
improvement
plan,
we've
got
tyler
heights.
We
have
hillsmeer.
We've
got
a
number
of
schools
right
there
in
the
annapolis
feeder
pattern.
That
really
you
know
if
things
go
according
to
a
timeline,
really
absorb
a
lot
of
that
capacity
at
annapolis
middle
school.
On
the
other
hand,
chesapeake
bay
middle
school
is
fairly
well
removed
out
on
the
mountain
road
corridor
heading
out
towards
gibson
island.
So
it's
not
really
geographically
proximal
to
the
school,
so
whether
students
can
or
can't
remain.
AB
There
is
certainly
part
of
the
decision
making
algorithm
another
part
of
the
decision.
Making
algorithm
really
has
to
do
with
our
understanding
of
the
fiscal
climate
here
within
the
county.
We're
reminded
you
know,
concurrently,
always
that
we
are
in
fact
in
a
in
a
revenue
constraint,
a
rather
fiscally
conservative
jurisdiction,
in
fact
we're.
You
know,
just
reminded
us
late
as
a
friday.
AB
You
know
five
work
days
ago
that
on
our
operating
budget,
you
know
we're
not
going
to
receive
anything
more
than
maintenance
of
effort,
and
the
capital
budget
here
in
the
county
does
have
a
capital
debt
affordability
model
that
essentially
constrains
the
amount
of
of
debt
and
projects
that
the
county
as
a
whole
can
afford.
We
are
obviously
part
of
that
larger
county-wide
picture,
our
1.5,
you
know
billion-dollar,
you
know,
backlog
maintenance
and
infrastructure.
AB
Backlog
has
really
grown
to
two
billion
dollars
now,
largely
because
of
our
inability
for
the
county
to
keep
up
its
rate
of
funding
for
schools.
So
the
concern
is
not
only
that
the
state
could
in
fact
reject
the
project,
not
fund
funded
at
all
or
funded
at
the
diminished
level.
There's
an
equal
concern,
whether
when
we
approach
the
county
government,
whether
the
county
government
would
be
willing
to
fund
not
just
the
additional
six
plus
million
dollars,
which
is
the
differential.
It's
over
six
million
dollars
is
the
gap
between
revitalization
and
new
construction.
O
Okay,
so
outside
of
the
money,
let's
talk
about
a
couple
of
other
things:
how
do
we
get
over
the
before
and
after
care
relative
to
the
gym
being
on
the
opposite
end
of
the
building-
and
I
know
this
isn't
instructional.
This
is
kind
of
the
other
part
of
the
hat
I
mean
when
we're
building
new
schools
when
we're
revitalizing
or
renovating
existing
schools.
We
typically
try
to
put
gems
in
before
and
after
care
near.
O
O
AB
Wouldn't
be
walking
across
the
street,
but
you're
right,
the
before
and
after
care.
Space
is
geographically
proximal
to
the
cafeteria.
What
today,
which
they're
using
today
the
multipurpose
room,
they
would
be
geographically
removed
from
the
gymnasium
that
would
be
at
the
other
end,
so
they
would
have
the
they
would
have
to
either
make
the
election
of
using
the
cafeteria
space
or
they
would
have
to
make
their
way
through
the
inside
of
the
building.
AB
If
weather
was
inclement
or
they
could
follow
the
sidewalk
on
the
outside
of
the
building,
if
the
weather
was
more
favorable,
but
there's
no
question
that,
if
the
before
and
after
care
to
sac
program
did
want
to
make
use
of
the
gym
it,
would
it's
not
immediately
adjacent
to
it.
So
that
is
certainly
one
of
the
trade-offs
in
a
revitalization
option.
Okay,.
O
AB
Actually,
it's
the
the
control
system,
that's
the
the
thermostats
that
enables
the
individual
units
to
come
on
to
come
off
that
building
at
a
very
antiquated
control
system.
Knowing
that
you
know
we're
on
the
verge
of
taking
a
look
at
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
the
building?
You
know
replacing
it
renovating
it
comprehensively,
etc.
AB
The
effort
it
was
undertaken
in
2010
was
a
modest
step
towards
trying
to
address
some
of
the
temperature
and
climate
control
issues
in
the
building,
but
it
didn't
go
as
far
as
we
would,
for
example,
in
a
in
a
younger
building
that
did
not.
It
was
not
poised
to
be
comprehensively
renovated
and
or
replaced.
So
we
didn't
go
through
the
process
of
replacing
at
that
time.
AB
O
O
G
AB
School
does
not
have
direct
visual
contact
on
a
parent
drop-off,
so
at
arnold,
like
they
presently
do
like
at
all
of
our
schools.
We
have
staff,
our
staff,
members
of
school
are
assigned
duties
and
that's
typical.
That's
typical
across
all
of
our
schools
and
so
stat,
because
the
office
doesn't
have
direct
visual
contact
with
that
parent
drop-off
area.
It
is
disaggregated,
but
because
it's
the
side
of
the
building,
the
staff
there,
the
school
administration
and
the
staff
that
school
would
have
to
have
duties
to
monitor
that.
AB
AC
O
AB
That's
a
10
trade-off
that
I
said
programmatically.
They
would
have
the
right
capacity
to
have
the
right
count
of
spaces.
They
would
have
the
right
type
of
spaces,
etc,
but
that
sentence
specifically
is
talking
about
that
10
up
or
down
tolerance.
So
if
a
room
size
was,
you
know,
six
and
a
half
percent
off,
we
wouldn't
correct
that
room
size.
Okay,.
O
AB
All
schools,
all
schools,
essentially
what
you
want
to
do
is
you
want
to
have
the
best
line
of
sight,
the
school
in
its
existing
configuration
and
either
revitalization
or
modernization.
You
know,
has
sort
of
a
crescent
shape
to
it,
so
you
don't
have
as
many
of
the
long
straight
vantage
points,
long
straight
views.
AB
Certainly
I
mean
things
like
security
cameras,
access
control
systems,
things
like
that
are
all
going
to
be
put
into
all
of
the
options,
but
the
sight
line
issue
would
not
be
that
extended
sight
line.
Viewability
issue
would
not
be
addressed
under
either
revitalization
or
modernization.
It
would
be
addressed
to
a
much
greater
extent
in
the
replacement
school.
There
are
again
blind
spots
in
every
school,
but
in
the
prototype
school
there
are
many
more
straight
lines
and
90
degree
angles
as
opposed
to
curves,
so
that
sight
line
element
is
in
fact
improved.
O
Okay
and
then
one
final
item
deals
with
mold,
you
know:
we've
I've
gone
and
visited
the
school
many
times
and
been
to
the
boiler
room
and
various
places.
We've
gone
even
to
the
crawl
space
to
be
able
to
see
that
it
was
pretty
dry,
but
are
we
still
after
we
get
through?
All
of
this,
do
you
believe
we're
going
to
have
those
concerns
within
this
school?
If
we
go
with
revitalization.
AB
O
AB
Again,
as
I
said
earlier
under
revitalization,
under
all
the
options
but
including
revitalization,
the
exterior
building
envelope
gets
essentially
target
hardened.
As
I
said
earlier,
so
things
like
doors,
windows,
sealants,
the
control
joints
in
the
building
are
all
reestablished.
Anytime,
you've
got
cracks
in
masonry,
they're
pointed
up.
The
roof
membrane
is
made
tight
and
then
on
the
inside
of
the
building
so
essentially
target
hardened
the
facility
from
the
exterior
coming
in
and
then
by
picking
the
right,
mechanical
systems,
electrical
plumbing
systems,
control
systems,
etc.
O
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
entire
team's
work.
That's
put
forward
thanks
to
the
board
for
your
indulgence
on
several
of
my
questions.
I
will
say,
as
I
close
out
it's
going
to
take
me
a
little
bit
and
I
look
forward
to
any
other
questions.
The
board
members
have
to
help
me
as
far
as
getting
over
my
hump
and
fear
of
really
voting
for
this.
I
I
think
that
this
is
one
where
the
way
that
the
building
is
shaped
on
that
property,
the
site
plan.
O
It
took
me
six
years
in
order
to
build
my
home
in
anne
arundel
county,
and
that
was
a
flat
piece
of
property,
not
a
tree
on
it.
Okay,
six
years,
I'm
not
necessarily
in
favor
of
leaving
this
school
in
its
current
condition
relative
to
the
hill
that
it's
on
at
the
very
bottom
on
this
piece
of
property,
and
so
you
know,
there's
some
reservations,
some
not
like
the
one,
george
cromwell,
that
we
were
on,
but
there's
some
serious
reservations
for
leaving
this
school
for
the
next
40
and
50
years
in
its
current
state.
AC
Thank
you,
miss
burch
yeah.
I've
got
some
concerns
about
that
grading
too,
and
I
note
in
a
lot
of
the
disadvantages
you
talk
about
grading
conditions
around
the
perimeter
of
the
facility
and
the
difficulty
to
add
any
additional
classrooms
in
the
future
because
of
that
grading.
But
what
really
catches
my
eye
is
the
bullet
point
potential
for
unforeseen
conditions
in
renovated
areas
which
could
increase
the
cost
of
construction.
AC
Now
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
just
about
everybody.
I
know
who's
had
a
construction
job
done
whatever
the
estimate
was.
They
found
some
issue
at
some
point
in
time
that
increased
the
cost,
so
taking
into
account
that
the
list
of
disadvantages
here
for
the
revitalization
versus
the
unknowns
I'd
be
concerned
about
voting
for
going
ahead
with
the
revitalization.
At
this
point,.
AB
AB
So
the
way
you
do
that,
is
you
hedge,
you,
hedge,
that
exposure
in
your
cost
estimates
knowing
that
you're
going
to
have
more
unforeseen
conditions,
so
we
think
we've
got
that
essentially
captured,
but
in
no
feasibility
study
that
that
anybody
would
ever
undertake
or
or
or
afford.
Realistically
would
we
do
destructive
testing
destructive
deconstruction
of
the
building
to
discover
what
these
unforeseen
conditions
are,
etc.
So
the
architects,
the
engineers
and
the
construction
estimators
based
on
knowledge
know
that
there
is
in
fact
a
cost.
AB
You
know
approximately
how
much
they
might
encounter
and
they
figure
that
into
their
cost
estimates
up
front
knowing
that
they
will
encounter
that.
So
hopefully
you
have
it
hedged.
You've
got
it
quantified
in
your
upfront
calculations
and
you're,
not
surprised
by
having
nothing
in
reserve
and
yet
knowing
that
you're
going
to
have
some
unforeseen
conditions.
So
this
is
pretty
typical.
AC
I
When
I
first
saw
this,
I
because
it's
usually
it's
not
that
it
never
happens,
but
it
usually
doesn't
happen.
Usually
the
I
remember
the
last
time
this
happened.
If
I
can
remember
correctly,
the
the
feasibility
group
wanted
to
do
revitalization,
and
actually
the
recommendation
was
to
do
a
replacement
so
at
for
another
school
at
another
time.
I
So
I've
seen
this
occasionally
happen,
but
so
when
I
first
saw
this,
I
was
very
concerned
so,
but
once
you
started
discussing
about
the
state
because
we
run
the
risk
of
saying
okay
we're
going
to
go
against
the
recommendation
and
we're
going
to
go
with
what
the
community
said
and
do
a
replacement.
We
run
a
real,
strong
risk
of
not
being
able
to
recoup
any
of
that
money
and
having
this
the
county
pay
for
the
entire
bill.
AB
I
And
while
I
know
that
there
are
some
issues
that
are
also
in
a
lot
of
other
schools
because
of
the
times
that
they
were
built
and
because
of
the
the
way
that
they
were
built
at
the
time,
they
know
that
those
can
be
fixed
doing
other
things.
First,
not
necessarily
replacement,
and
so
you've
been
doing
this
for
a
number
of
years,
and
we
have
regular
conversations
with
the
state.
I
mean
it's
not
like
we're
out
here,
just
doing
stuff.
I
You
know
willy
nilly
and
we
can
most
certainly
decide
to
go
ahead
and
build
it
ourselves
without
any
state
input.
But
then
we
have
to
convince
the
the
funding
authority,
which
is
not
the
board
of
education,
but
the
county
council
that
we
need
you
to
completely
fund
the
total
cost
of
this.
This
project
and.
I
So
you
know
I
mean
at
first
I
struggled
with
this
because
I
thought
to
myself:
well,
why
are
they
going
against
that?
Well
now,
I
understand
fully
why?
Because
the
likelihood
of
the
state
really
giving
us
the
money,
if
we,
if
we
really
felt
comfortable
that
that
that
the
state
would
agree
with
us,
you
know
we
may
have
looked
at
that
and
and
we
would
deal
with
some
of
these
other
issues.
Yes,
you
have
to
go
to
arnold
all
the
way
down
to
chesapeake
bay
middle
school.
I
They
may
have
to
wait
a
couple
years,
but
we
could.
Basically,
if
we
say
tonight,
we
asked
we're
gonna
instead
do
a
replacement
and
we
vote
on
that.
Actually,
we
could
actually
kill
the
whole
entire
project
by
doing
that,
because
then
we
wouldn't
have
anything.
We'd
have
to
they'd
have
to
go
back
in
the
queue
because
we've
now
taken
them
out
and
we're
not
going
to
get
the
funds.
AB
That
is
a
possibility
that
the
project
would
would
either
not
go
forward
or
it
may
get
delayed.
Because
again,
the
county
government
has
a
fairly
rigid
capital
debt
affordability
model
that
they
can
only
afford
so
much
cip
expenditures
per
year
and
they've
got
that
projected
out,
and
so,
if
the
project
fits
in
a
given
year,
knowing
that
you
have
x
dollars
coming
from
the
state
and
next
dollars
from
the
county,
but
then
the
calculus
changes
now
you're,
not
getting
anything
from
the
state.
So
you
can't
leverage
state
dollars.
AB
You
have
to
have
a
hundred
percent
of
the
county.
What
that's
going
to
do
is
either
either
within
that
one
fiscal
year
it
would
potentially
bump
out
another
project
or
more
likely
what
it
would
do.
It
would
take
this
project
and
it
would
delay
it
into
future
years
a
year
a
year.
You
know
down
the
line
in
which
the
county
would
maybe
have
some
greater
ability
to
take
on
some
additional
debt
or
afford
a
project,
so
it
either
might
not
happen
at
all.
AB
I
AB
B
I'm
going
to
jump
in
just
real
quick,
because
I
had
some
of
the
same
concerns
that
mr
richie
did,
because
you
know
I've
visited
arnold.
You
know
many
times
and
starting
over
the
years
ago,
and
I
and
I've
also
gotten
many
emails
from
many
parents
who
are
very
concerned
about
some
specific
things
that
come
up
over
and
over
again,
like
you
know,
allergies
and
dampness
and
flooding,
and
that
the
classrooms
are
dark
and
that
there's
water
shooting
out
of
toilets
things
like
that.
B
AB
B
AB
AG
AB
AB
To
what
extent
could
you
convince
the
state
otherwise
and
and
you
you
can't
convince
a
mechanical
engineer,
for
example
an
an
external
reviewer,
so
you
can't
convince
a
mechanical
engineer
from
the
state
or
somewhere
else
that
you
can't
that
for
some
reason
we
can't
control
the
humidity
in
arnold,
and
yet
we
do
it
in
new
orleans.
We
do
it
in
tampa
and
we
do
it
in
st
thomas
everywhere
else.
B
So
I
guess
you
know
I'm
a
little
concerned
because
somebody's
been
telling
the
community
that
the
superintendent
recommended
a
limited
renovation.
That
was
basically
a
paint
and
patch
and
that's
not
at
all.
What
a
revitalization
is.
I
mean
it's
you
don't
paint
and
patch
for
21
million
dollars.
I
mean
we.
We
do
a
lot
for
21
million
dollars.
It
feels
like
a
new
school
when
you're
done,
I
mean
when
you
go
in
it
feels
like
a
new
school
honestly.
I
would
be
willing
to
take
a
risk
with
the
state.
B
If
I
thought
that
these
things
weren't
going
to
be
solved
by
a
21
million
dollar
revitalization,
then
I
would
say,
take
the
risk
with
the
state,
but
I
think
that
the
architects
and
engineers
who
agreed
that
all
of
those
problems
that
the
parents
have
been
complaining
about
will
be
solved
through
a
revitalization.
I
I
don't
see
what
the
problem
is
other
than
it's
not
a
brand
new
building.
C
C
AB
In
every
single
aspect,
revitalization
has
the
least
impact
and
modernization
will
be
the
next
most
impactful
and
replacement
has
by
far
the
greatest
level
of
environmental
impact.
Specific
to
your
other
question,
if
you
remember
at
maya
at
the
beginning,
the
building
as
it
currently
sits
today
has
a
state
rating
capacity
of
456
and
we're
going
to
be
expanding
it
up
to
565..
AB
So
that's
a
pretty
robust
expansion.
It's
almost
25
percent,
it's
in
excess
of
20
percent,
if
you
do
to
math,
and
so
that
will
take
into
account
opportunities
to
add
programmatic
expansion,
as
you
said,
should
we
need
eci
classrooms
there
or
pre-k,
as
well
as
a
turnover
within
a
community
in
growth
and
development?
There
is
some
construction
going
on
there
very
close
to
arnold
elementary
school
that
we're
already
aware
of,
and
those
are
in
fact
in
the
numbers
that
the
maryland
department
of
planning
in
the
maryland.
AB
AM
C
U
G
B
AN
Good
evening,
president
verge
and
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
lisa
fletcher-body,
I'm
the
former
pta
president
current
cac
chair
at
arnold
elementary.
I
had
the
pleasure
of
serving
on
our
feasibility
study
committee
and
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
the
other
members,
especially
those
from
aacps
and
grim
and
parker
for
their
time
insight,
experience,
creativity
and
knowledge.
It
is
because
I
know
the
amount
of
evaluation
prior
experience
and
thoughtful
discourse
that
went
into
the
committee's
recommendation
for
replacement
that
I
was
disappointed
to
read
interim
superintendent's.
AN
Contrary
recommendation
for
limited
revitalization,
we
certainly
appreciate
the
extensive
improvements
that
revitalization
will
provide,
but
it
fails
to
address
three
primary
issues
facing
arnold.
The
site's
water
flow
impact
on
the
building,
the
school's
ability
to
meet
future
population
needs
and,
most
importantly,
school
and
campus
security.
AN
Many
of
you
have
visited
arnold,
thank
you
and
are
familiar
with
our
unique
site:
topography,
building,
location
and
design.
I
think
it's
safe
to
say.
The
architect
and
design
team
from
1965
were
fascinated
with
hydroelectric
power
because
they
basically
copied
the
hoover
dam
and
put
classrooms
in
it.
Our
current
two-story,
half
underground
semi-circle-shaped
school
building
sits
near
the
bottom
of
over
100
feet
of
grade
with
water
flow
channeling
directly
toward
the
building.
AN
As
you
know,
from
the
many
repair
work,
orders,
moisture
and
mold
health
complaints
and
prior
testimony,
we
are
constantly
using
time
and
county
resources
to
combat
the
impact
of
water
on
our
aging
foundation
and
systems.
While
I
know
engineers
will
reassure
us
that
there
are
new
technologies
in
the
construction
field
which
can
help
mitigate
some
of
our
significant
water
issues.
I'd
simply
ask
why
throw
good
taxpayer
money
into
a
partial
solution
when
we
have
the
option
of
building
a
new
school
on
the
high
point
of
the
property,
as
recommended
by
the
feasibility
committee
project?
AN
I
think
we
all
know
that
overages
are
not
only
possible
but
have
proven
probable.
Similarly,
the
limitation
of
our
building's
placement
on
the
lot
does
not
allow
for
future
expansion
or
use
of
portables
to
accommodate
a
growing
population
or
the
necessary
relocation
of
our
current
students
during
the
phased
construction
of
a
limited
revitalization.
AN
We
currently
have
one
portable
and
have
been
told
by
you
guys
and
others
in
the
county
can't
have
any
more.
We
would
be
forced
to
rotate
classrooms
into
the
media
center
multi-purpose
room
or
off-site
for
27
months.
Yes,
limited
revitalization
accounts
for
current
state
formulated
projections
showing
our
enrollment
to
increase
to
about
400
over
the
next
several
years,
but
history
has
proven
these
projections
to
be
underestimated,
putting
schools
over
capacity
against
the
theories
of
modern
medicine
and
optical
optimal
maternal
age.
I
am
already
adding
one
more
student
to
your
projections.
AN
Even
with
limited
revitalization,
we
will
not
be
fully
compliant
with
current
ed
specs.
So
what
happens
when
state
mandated
pre-k
and
the
planned
new
town,
home
and
single-family
developments
come
online?
The
recommended
new
construction
accommodates
not
only
the
growing
population
likely
pre-k
requirements
and
meets
all
ed
specs,
but
also
allows
additional
site
space
when
expansion
or
portables
are
needed
in
the
future,
and
our
current
students
can
stay
in
place
during
construction
per
the
feasibility
study.
Kerry
pets
will
address
the
overwhelming
security
concerns
we
have
so.
AN
For
my
summary,
I
urge
you
to
support
the
feasibility
committee's
well-reasoned
recommendation
for
new
construction
of
arnold
elementary
limited.
Revitalization
offers
the
most
disruption
to
students
pennywise
but
pound
full
of
solution
as
a
parent
and
taxpayer.
That
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
rebuild
arnold
elementary
is
both
both
both
the
most
responsible,
practical
and
budgetary
decision,
and
our
children
have
earned
it.
AO
Madam
president
and
members
of
the
board,
I
am
carrie
petz,
the
past
cac
chair
current
pta
president
and
neighbor
to
arnold
elementary,
the
safety
and
security
issues
that
arnold
issues
that
arnold
has
are
a
direct
result
of
its
placement
on
the
property
and
its
circular
design.
On
page
49
of
the
feasibility
study,
we
shared
the
deficit
deficiencies
of
the
current
property,
as
quote
site
circulation
and
safety
and
life
safe
life,
safety
and
accessibility
concerns.
AO
Revitalization
option
leaves
us
with
quote,
not
an
ideal
long-term
solution
to
the
vehicular
traffic
issues
that
we
have
mixing
cars,
buses
and
kids.
The
student
drop-off
is
a
dicey
experience
on
any
given
day
no
emergency
vehicle
access
to
the
upper
fields
or
rear
play
area,
a
play
area
that
will
require
us
to
mix
grades,
one
through
five.
At
the
same
time,
no
visibility
to
the
upper
fields
that
will
be
feet
from
two
new
developments
that
have
direct
direct
access
to
route
two
with
one
hundred
to
two
hundred
children
playing
up
there.
AO
I
do
not
trust,
although
I
love
two
to
three
teachers:
lunch
aids
with
the
safety
of
our
children.
On
that
remote
area,
you
have
all
been
shared,
a
document
with
photographs.
I
don't
know
if
she
shared
it.
I
gave
it
document
with
photographs
of
the
sight
lines
of
the
exterior
of
our
building.
None
of
these
will
change
with
revitalization.
AO
It
is
unacceptable
to
have
no
visibility
from
one
end
of
our
exterior
to
the
other,
especially
in
the
rear,
play
areas,
no
sight
line
to
the
parking
areas
or
even
across
our
bus
loop.
The
interior
has
limited
sight
lines
as
well.
Housing
administration
at
one
end
of
the
building
is
not
ideal
for
overall
safety
boys
in
the
lower
level.
Primary
grades
are
afraid
to
use
the
bathroom
because,
it's
so
far
and
out
of
sight
from
their
classroom.
AO
In
today's
times
of
security,
these
are
all
unacceptable
voids
in
the
revitalization
plan
per
appendix
e
in
the
document,
building
security
and
site
safety
or
the
cpted
uses
natural
surveillance,
territorial
reinforcement,
natural
access
control
and
target
hardening.
Three
of
four
of
these
issues
are
not
viable
under
revitalization.
AO
The
report
states
on
page
5657
that
there
will
be
quote
limited
construction
access
and
staging
area
while
students
are
in
the
building.
What
happens
when
it's
realized
that
students
have
to
move?
Where
are
they
going
to
go
at
the
time
of
this
report?
There
is
no
swing
space
available.
What
is
the
cost
of
this
unforeseen
and
extensive
disruption
disruption
to
academics
for
27
months?
AO
It
is
very
clear
that
the
experienced
members
of
the
architectural
and
engineering
firm
have
made
the
best
recommendation
for
our
children
and
community
a
replacement
building.
Please
do
not
be
short-sighted
and
save
a
few
million
dollars
now
that
willis
history
dictates
cost
us
more.
In
the
end,
we
are
asking
you
to
vote
for
a
replacement
school
for
arnold
and
let
us
work
with
the
state
and
council
for
funding.
Thank
you.
AP
For
the
record,
I'm
dick
ladd,
I
live
down
the
street
from
arnold.
I
am
the
councilman
from
that
area
and
have
become
familiar
with
the
school,
because
I
fielded
many
of
the
same
concerns
and
from
from
constituents
about
the
condition
in
the
school.
But
before
I
do
that,
can
we
ask
it's?
Okay,
for
you,
people
to
sit
down.
F
AP
AP
I
also
have
the
have
had
the
pleasure
and
the
opportunity
of
looking
at
a
lot
of
stormwater
things
on
my
peninsula,
on
that
particular
pill
that
we're
working
on
we're,
putting
putting
a
big
housing
development
on
one
side
of
it
on
the
other
corner
and
across
the
street.
The
only
thing
I
can
tell
you
is
that,
as
we
start
wrestling
with
the
storm
water
runoff
that
we
see
throughout
the
county
under
the
new
regulations
to
keep
all
the
water
on
the
on
the
site,
it's
a
tough
nut
and
what
you
hear
is
you
don't?
AP
When
I've
looked
at
the
plans?
Okay,
I
go
in,
I
get
in
the
weeds
and
I'm
going
to
run
over
time,
but
look
you
get
into
the
reads
and
you
start
looking
at
the
engineer,
drawings
and
the
first
thing
when
you
start
seeing
these
things
and
you
don't
see
it
till
you
get
the
sketch
plan
review,
not
the
feasibility,
but
the
sketch
plan
you're
back
worrying
about
topography
hydrology,
how
the
where
the
clay
levels
are
where
the
water
is
going
to
go
down
and
run.
AP
The
one
thing
that
we
know
about
this
site
is
we
have
a
cup
sitting
downhill?
The
water
runs
into
it,
it
gets
caught
now,
we've
got
to
get
the
and
I
know
that
they
went
back
and
they
resealed
the
building
we
temporarily
keeping
the
moisture
from
getting
inside.
But
when
I
first
started
going
down
there,
I'm
up
in
the
crawl
space
a
lot
of
you
guys
and
it
was
wet
in
there.
AP
The
stuff
was
coming
through
the
bricks
and
maybe
we
have
fixed
it,
but
the
problem
is
now:
we've
got
this
hydraulic
pressure
behind
it
and
that
can
be
addressed.
I'm
not
an
engineer
and
alex
and
his
people
go
back
to.
He
doesn't
know
what
he's
talking
about,
but
I'm
telling
you
when
you
start
watching
how
I
move
the
water
around
it
what's
down
there
in
the
clay.
AP
If
I'm
looking
at
blueprint,
I
want
to
know
where
the
hydrology
is
on
this
thing,
where
the
clay
levels
are
and
how
the
water
is
going
to
move
levelly
on
levels
when
we
start
trying
to
catch
the
stuff
on
the
ground
when
we
catch
it
on
the
ground,
the
best
engineering
design
practices
catch
it
and
let
it
filter
down.
It's
fine.
It
filters
down
till
it's
clay,
then
it
goes
bang
like
that.
AP
Where
does
it
go
first
up
against
the
wall
of
the
the
school,
possibly
unless
the
clay
levels
are
under
the
under
the
school
go
out
and
back
sometimes,
and
you
look
at
how
wet
the
playground
the
play
areas
and
back
of
the
school,
it's
very
wet.
That's
happened
all
the
time,
so
the
water's
going
through
this
this
site
is
part
of
the
problem.
It's
downhill,
it's
almost
as
sloped
as
the
one
up
at
jessup.
AP
Can
you
hear
me
up
there
and
and
you're
taking
you're,
taking
the
school
of
justify
with
note
from
the
top
of
the
hill
and
moving
it
down
the
half
the
hill
and
you're,
putting
another
impervious
service
behind
it?
Make
sure
you
get
the
drains
around
that
thing
good,
because
now
you
got
the
downhill
stuff.
AP
I
deal
with
this
all
the
time
in
my
district,
with
all
the
hills
and
up
the
waters
going
to
the
river,
it's
terrible
and
you
find
out
that
when
you
look
at
what
the
engineers
do,
if
they
can
get
there
to
get
the
water
over
the
property
line,
they're
done,
but
I
sit
there
on
the
other
side
and
watch
all
this
stuff
coming
down
and
saying
so.
Horner
hell
signed
off
on
that
thing
and
I'm
telling
you
that's
been
my
experience.
So
I
am
very,
very
nervous
about
the
sighting
decision.
AP
The
decision
that
the
the
the
committee
advised
you
on
support
puts
it
at
the
top
and
that,
in
terms
of
the
integrity
of
the
building
we've
taken
away,
I
think
the
root
cause
of
a
lot
of
the
problems
we
have.
I
I
agree
with
alex
that
we
can
put
air
conditioning
in
and
we
can
dry
out
the
air
and
we
can
do
that,
but
I
don't
know
how
we
deal
with
the
with
the
water
that
runs
down
the
hill.
AP
AP
Give
us
two
weeks
now
I'll
bet
you.
Your
staff
back
here
has
got
somebody
on
on
staff
back
there
that
can
go
out
and
tell
us
what
the
hydrology
is.
What
where
the
layers
are
down
there,
even
if
we
have
to
drill
some
boars
on
our
borings
to
get
out
of
it
find
how
far
down
the
stuff
is.
Maybe
there's
a
solution
that
I
feel
comfortable
in
telling
these
good
people.
I
know
we
can
get
the
water
around
that
building.
AP
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
any
more
water
coming
through
the
building,
and
I
agree
that
alex
can
dry
it
out.
But
I'd
like
to
see
those
samples
done
that
way.
I
feel
a
little
bit
more
comfortable
with
you
saying:
okay
I'll
leave
the
building
where
it
is,
but
I
have
serious
reservations
on
that
and
I
don't
think
I
can
tell
you.
AP
If
you
go
over
the
go
over
the
seven
river
bridge
heading
east
and
you
look
on
the
right
hand
side,
you
see
that
big,
beautiful
white
house
there
with
that
big,
the
the
big
field
up
there
what's
happened.
The
water
runs
down.
The
water
comes
out
mid,
mid
hill,
where
it
hits
the
clay
level
and
it
starts
eroding.
You
can
see
the
same
problem
when
you
look
at
several
places
on
the
river.
You
can
see
it
over
gibson
island.
I
may
be
wrong,
but
I
think
the
risk
is
real.
AP
So
one
day
I
wrote
down
here-
and
I
said
you
know
we
may
have
the
thing
where
I
put.
I
thought
it
was
a
pretty
good
line,
but
anyway
anyway,
basically
we
may
have
the
lowest
cost.
We
may
be
getting
the
lowest
cost
thing,
but
we
got
a
hell
of
a
lot
more
risk
and-
and
I
and
and
I
understand
when
you
write
estimates,
say
there's
unknown
unknowns
out
there.
AP
Getting
that
backed
off
is
is
is
hard
if
you
find
out
that
the
doing
that
revitalization
is
is
off
base
because
of
the
how
the
drainage
is
down
underneath
and
something
like
that.
I
think
a
two
week
exercise
to
confirm
that
is
about
right.
Now,
I'm
I
I
showed
these.
Ladies,
what
I
was
going
to
say
they
want
to
build
it
up
high,
I
do
too,
but
if,
if
that,
for
your
own
reasons
and
you're
afraid
what
the
state
is
going
to
say,
you
know
I
understand
that.
AP
AN
AP
AP
Anyway,
I
think
we
have
so
we
have
some
time
to
look
at
this
thing
and
the
other
thing
I
would
comment.
We
talk
about
the
funding
on
this
thing.
I
can
tell
you
that
when
you
look
at
the
capital
program,
we're
not
going
to
get
a
chance
to
to
do
much
more
than
design
this
school
this
year,
just
because
of
of
how
much
money!
That's
there,
someone
of
the
school,
these
elementary
schools
in
16
are
going
to
get
slipped
out
and-
and
arnold
is
the
last
in
that
next
tranche
to
go.
AP
It's
a
serious
engineering
problem-
and
I
don't
I
don't
think
alex-
doesn't
disagree
with
that.
We
haven't
crossed
that
bridge
yet
and
you
might
find
that
what
we're
getting
to
really
isn't
terribly
feasible
or
it's
gonna
be
much
more
expensive
than
we
think
I
agree.
He's
got
an
extra
five
percent
in
the
bid
I'd
say
two
weeks:
let's
find
out
what
we
know
about
the
ground.
AP
I
don't
know,
and
then
I
I
would
ask
alex
to
come
back
until
he
could
have
a
debate
or
maybe
he
can
tell
me
to
go
home,
which
I
would
say
was
a
pretty
good
idea.
But
I
I
think
I
don't
know
where
you
are
administratively.
I
know
you've
got
mission,
emotion
on
the
table
which
is
made
and
seconded,
but
I
I
think,
a
two-week
deferment
on
that.
If,
if
there
was
some
opportunity
to
look
at
some
other
some
other
alternatives,
one
of
these
ladies
told
me
today
that
they
wear
some
property.
AP
What
up
up
the
street
that
we
even
might
have
an
alternative
site
where
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
a
lot
of
these
things,
but
I
don't
know
whether
that
how
that
works.
But
I
do
think
it's
worth.
I
would
argue
to
you
tonight
that
it's
worth
the
time
to
look
and
make
sure
we
understand
what
the
hydraulics
are
and
unless
alex
knows
all
that
stuff
already.
But
it's
not
visible
it
wasn't.
AP
AE
AP
It's
not
that
I
don't
care.
I
seriously
care
a
lot
about
this,
but
I
tell
you
when
you
go
out
and
walk
the
hills
and
you
look
at
the
storm
water
and
what
it
does
and
what
the
erosion
does.
I
am
vitally
concerned
that
we're
on
the
cusp
of
making
a
decision
that
30
or
40
years
from
now
we're
going
to
say
boy.
We
didn't
get
this
one
right
this
time
so
just
because
we
did
it
a
couple
years
ago
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
repeat
it.
AB
As
part
of
the
feasibility
study,
we
do
undertake
a
soil
analysis
in
your
exhibit.
If
you
take
a
look
at
page
22
of
138
under
site
soils,
there
are
four
soil
types
on
that
property.
We
get
this
information,
of
course,
from
the
department
of
natural
resources.
All
four
categories
are
drained
are
categorized
as
well
draining
well-drained.
AB
AB
As
I
said
earlier,
it's
on
page
22
of
the
written
document
with
respect
to
the
contingency
to
address
both
mr
webb's
earlier
comment
as
well
as
mr
ladd's
comment:
we
have
a
fairly
robust
contingency,
it's
not
five
percent.
It's
10
of
the
total
project
costs
is
set
aside
in
contingency
to
take
care
of
those
things
that
are
unknown.
That
10
percent
is
in
the
that
initial
cost.
So
when
we
say
the
revitalization
option
will
be
20.38
million
dollars
embedded
within
that
is
just
under
1.8
million
dollars
worth
of
money
already
factored
in.
AB
In
case
we
discover
things
that
are
unforeseen
conditions
like
a
pipe
behind
a
wall,
or
you
know
some
sort
of
waterproofing,
endeavor,
etc.
So
we
know
going
in
on
any
revitalization
or
modernization
project
that
there
are
site
unforeseen
conditions.
That's
a
given!
That's
why
we
have
large
reserves
built
into
the
project,
but
they're
built
into
the
upfront
costs.
We
hope
not
to
have
to
use
them
right,
but
it'll
be
disingenuous
to
not
have
those
safety
factors
those
reserved
built
into
the
cost
of
the
project.
AB
So
if
you
go
to
the
detail
sheets
for
revitalization,
which
is
on
page
108
of
your
exhibit
you'll
see
down
at
the
bottom,
that
we
do
have
in
fact
phasing
cost
contingency
contingency.
Is
that
reserve
that
I
talked
about
earlier
already
built
into
the
model
just
like
it's
built
into
all
of
the
other
options?
Because
again
we
want
to
try
to
telegraph
to
our
appropriating
bodies,
essentially
what
their
maximum
exposure
is,
what
their
maximum
fiscal
exposure
is,
and
so
we
want.
AB
We
want
to
budget
for
those
unforeseen
conditions,
because
we
know
they're
going
to
happen.
We
want
the
county,
government
and
state
government
to
also
know
that
we
are
budgeting
for
those
unforeseen
conditions
and
we
want
them
to
approve
the
project
with
those
contingency
reserves
in
the
project
budget.
In
case
we
wind
up
needing
them.
As
you
know,
those
budgets
are
line.
Item
appropriated.
AB
We
are
not
in
any
way
shape
or
form
able
to
move
a
single
penny
from
that
project
to
any
other
project.
Their
line
are
appropriated
by
both
the
state
and
the
county
at
the
end
of
the
project.
If
we
wind
up
not
having
those
unforeseeable
conditions,
we
don't
wind
up
encountering
some
of
those
other
elements
that
could
cost
cause
cost
overruns
on
a
project.
AB
I
The
soil
stuff
has
already
been
done,
we've
already
looked
at
what
a
soil
is
there
and-
and
a
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
maybe
drainage,
the
way
it's
being
drained
or
run
off.
Now
I
mean
which
will
be
addressed
because
we
don't
want.
I
mean
it
makes
no
sense
for
us
to
revitalize
something
and
that'll
still
allow
the
water
just
to
keep
flowing
down.
So
we're
looking
at
drainage
and
and
the
way
we're
going
to
do
the
the
drainage.
I
AB
AB
As
I
said,
with
the
hvac
thing,
I
mean
the
industry,
the
design
profession,
the
construction
professions,
things
like
soil
suitability,
drainage
capacity,
absorption
capacity
of
soil.
That
is
such
a
much
better
understood
element
now
than
it
was.
You
know,
50
plus
years
ago,
when
this
building
was
originally
built.
So
the
intention
would
be
to
take
new
engineering
systems
to
take
new
engineering
controls
and
take
that
knowledge
that
we
have
today
that
we
didn't
have
before
and
apply
it
against
the
problem.
Whatever
the
problem
happens
to
be,
and
the.
I
AB
We're
we're
109
seats
above
the
highest
projected
enrollment
that
they're
into
over
the
existing
school,
and
that
is
actually
almost
150
seats
over
where
they
currently
are
so
the
current
school,
the
their
present
enrollment
is
424
right.
The
building
is
currently
rated
for
456.,
so
it
has
a
higher
state
capacity
than
the
current
enrollment,
but
we're
increasing
it
more
yet.
So
it's
109
over
the
state
rate
of
capacity.
AB
B
G
AB
Sir,
our
whole
entire
capital
improvement
program
plan
is
woefully
behind
the
whole.
1.5
billion
dollar
program
was
supposed
to
be
eradicated
in
a
10-year
time
span.
We've
eradicated
less
than
a
third
of
the
initial
project
and
during
that
time,
because
of
the
slippage,
our
inability
to
as
aggressively
prosecute
projects
as
one
would
hope
that
initial
1.5
billion
deficit
has
actually
grown
to
approximately
two
billion
dollars
now
and
it
will
continue
to
grow
and
our
backlog
will
grow
and
the
timeline
will
continue
to
get
stretched
out
unless
the
funding
model
changes.
AB
G
AB
It
certainly
could
it
certainly
has
that
potential
the
con.
You
know
the
converse
is,
even
if
you,
even
if
you
recommend
revitalization,
when
it
got
to
the
state
or
county,
the
county
government
could
decide
if
they're
going
to
ge.
If
you
ask
for
x
amount
of
dollars
for
revitalization,
the
county
government
could
say
well,
here's
what
you
asked
for
and
I'll
give
you
eight
million
dollars
more
board.
Please
reconsider
and
replace
the
school.
H
Okay,
but
but
there
would
be
a
chance,
assuming
the
county
government
wouldn't
give
us
a
spare
eight
million
dollars
that
we
would
have
to
go
back
a
year
from
now.
We
couldn't
just
flip
it
this
year
and
say:
oh
okay,
if
you're
not
going
to,
let
us
replace
it,
could
you
let
us
revitalize
it?
Do
we
have
to
wait
a
year
to
go
back
to
the
state?
We
would
have
to
wait.
B
AB
G
AB
Building
themselves
they'll
make
that
decision
based
on
their
vitals
on
this
feasibility
study
and
that
site
visit.
We
would
not
go
into
the
design
phase
of
the
project,
because
the
design
effort
for
replacement
is
drastically
different
than
a
renovation
activity.
So
we
wouldn't
go
into
the
design
phase
unless
we
knew
that
there
was
an
agreement
and
accord
between
the
board's
recommendation,
the
state's
recommendation
and
the
county
government's
perspective.
Okay,.